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  <title>Episode 087: ✌️The Two Biggest Enemies to Youth Groups</title>
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  <itunes:episode>087</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>✌️The Two Biggest Enemies to Youth Groups</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>🏅Travel Sports and Youth Group. They have been the bain of youth pastor’s existence for years.

🗓️What if they don’t have to be the enemy?

🥱What about Youth Group Kids who exhibit complacency?</itunes:subtitle>
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🏅Travel Sports and Youth Group. They have been the bain of youth pastor’s existence for years.&lt;br&gt;
🗓️What if they don’t have to be the enemy?&lt;br&gt;
🥱What about Youth Group Kids who exhibit complacency?&lt;br&gt;
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00:00 The Two Biggest Enemies to your Youth Ministry&lt;br&gt;
01:46 Extra Curriculuars are Killing my Attendance&lt;br&gt;
05:15 Complancey is also killing my youth group&lt;br&gt;
08:04 The Suprising Solution to Youth Sports and Complacency in your Youth Group&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;TRANSCRIPT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;32;17&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
The two biggest enemies in youth ministry are extracurricular activities and the complacent attitude of your students. Tell me if you've heard this before. Tuesday night is karate so that kid can't come on Tuesdays. If that's when you had youth group and then Wednesday nights is when you have show choir. Thursday night, that same kid also has karate. And of course, you can't do Friday night because that's when the football games are like if you've been in that position.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;32;22 - 00;00;53;10&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Give me a subscribe. If you've had to navigate when you meet for youth night and turn the bell on for good measure because we're starting a brand new playlist exploring all the different issues of youth ministry, and one of them is scheduling. Like how do you schedule around students and their extracurricular activities? What in the world should we meet?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;53;15 - 00;01;17;43&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
They're so busy and it almost makes it feel like extracurricular travel, sports, school sports are the enemy. And here’s the fact even when they do show up in the room, you might be so boring that they're not really willing to make your thing a priority. In fact, we have a video right here where we explore all of that and how you can make your youth ministry one of belonging and purpose and serving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;01;17;50 - 00;01;43;18&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
But I just had a student the other day say, Hey, listen, I just got so much going on. Sometimes student ministry, it just it doesn't make the cut. And unashamedly that was a text that they sent. And so if the two biggest enemies are travel sports and complacency, I want to challenge you to stick around to the very end of this video because I have a solution for each of those two things extracurriculars and complacency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;01;43;33 - 00;02;11;00&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Welcome to the High Road Ministry show The Year was 2012 brand new youth Pastor right here. And there were literally three students in my student ministry starting out, one by the name of Brandon, who didn't last very long, one by the name of Megan and then one by the name of Sabrina and Megan and all her friends. And she brought a lot of her friends to youth group.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;11;00 - 00;02;31;58&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
So this kind of mattered because she could bring two or three or four different friends with her to youth group. They had show choir and met every single Wednesday night. And so that made Wednesday nights a really tricky night to do youth ministry. But Brandon, the only other boy in the youth ministry, had Tuesday night and Thursday night karate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;32;03 - 00;02;58;34&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And then of course, Friday nights are like the football game. Like for most towns USA, that's when the high school team is playing its football game. So that really left us with Monday night as an option, which for I can't remember why, but for whatever reason it really wasn't an option. And so I had no idea like what am I supposed to do in to, to make matters worse, I had three kids, so if I choose Wednesday, I lose Megan and all her friends.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;58;34 - 00;03;21;41&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
If I choose to, their Thursday, I lose Brandon over to karate. And then the group of three, that's 33% of my students. So like, when am I supposed to plan to do this? I had another student one year who missed summer camp due to a baseball tournament. And then I remember he came up to me after we got back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;03;21;41 - 00;03;41;49&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
His brother went and all his friends went and so he was at the recap of camp and we shared the recap video and all the students had all their energy and and his tournament had gotten rained out while we were gone. And he came up to me and he said, Next year I'm going to camp no matter what you see.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;03;41;49 - 00;04;08;43&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Here's what happens once you create some sort of an environment where a student actually wants to be a part and actually wants to belong, it can be a game changer. But the fact of the matter is, especially when you're just getting started out, what do you do when they don't even know you in their thing, their show choir, their karate, their baseball, their basketball, their football, their you fill in the blank, whatever it is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;08;48 - 00;04;31;46&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
What happens when that thing is actually providing more of a place of belonging and more of a place of community than your church? It makes it difficult and honestly, you want to compete with it. You want it to be you want church, you want youth group to be providing more of a place of belonging, more of a place of community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;31;51 - 00;04;55;39&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
But in the life of that student, let's be honest, it really isn't. It's not really providing a place of belonging more than their sport. And so one of the challenges is you are trying to compete with something that is like family to them and you want them to come to something that's already a probably not feeling a little bit like family to them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;55;44 - 00;05;22;28&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And then B is adding another thing onto their already busy plate of calendaring and activities and things that they have to be committed to doing. And so what do we do about youth sports? Listen, I got an idea. Just hang on. What do you do about complacency? Like you've been there, right, where you have kids, Church kids, non church kids, whatever the case might be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;05;22;28 - 00;05;41;52&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And they really like they don't want to be there like you. Like the archetype of student I'm thinking of is the junior in high school comes to youth group hood on air pods in back row. They're just not interested. Like you get up, you got a game, They don't care about the game. You get up, you got a cute video.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;05;41;52 - 00;06;01;46&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
They don't care about the cute video. You see them saying like, how do you reach that kid? And in most cases, that kid is his heart's definitely not in to youth group. And there's a lot of factors for that, one of which might be his level or feeling of belonging. And it doesn't have to just be a him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;06;01;46 - 00;06;25;02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
It could be her, right? But we're we're using a certain archetype, and so we'll just keep using that junior boy student with the AirPods in as an example. But nothing's changing. Like just because you have a game, just because you have a cool message, just because you have clever announcements, none of those things are reaching them because he's complacent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;06;25;02 - 00;06;55;47&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
He's he's not or she's not into whatever you have doing. They're honestly they're being forced to be at church. And here's the thing. That is a really tough pill for us to swallow. Sometimes as youth pastors, is students physical attendance in the room Does not equal an our authentic heart level buy in of what's going on, not only in youth group, but frankly, in faith as it pertains to their relationship with God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;06;55;52 - 00;07;17;22&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Because you don't want to just go after their physical attendance, you know what I'm saying? Their physical attendance is not the goal, only their heart being bought into it. Their heart being bought into it is the goal. And so you might be asking, Well, how do I chaste their heart? That's a great question. And in a lot of cases you don't.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;07;17;27 - 00;07;45;09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
That's the Holy Spirit's role in their life. So you can pray for them and you can try to program creatively in such a way that that they find that and you can try to develop a type of community that's authentic and real and raw that most Gen Z, most Gen Alpha students are actually looking for and that community can take root and that student's life so that they belong to their group before they really truly start to exhibit elements of belief.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;07;45;14 - 00;08;13;59&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
But you can't change their heart. You know that that's the Holy Spirit shop. But just like travel sports and now with an attitude of complacency or just a bad attitude in general, I do have two ideas that I think can change the game in both of those arenas, and we're going to hit that in the next section. So my idea for travel sports and my idea for a complacent attitude is actually one in the same.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;08;14;04 - 00;08;45;58&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And the idea, of course, is to try to go hybrid. Now, listen, you're like, dude, you're the hybrid ministry podcast. Of course you're thinking that. And yeah, I am. But I have detailed an outline for you in my 100% completely free e-book. It's basically my Nick Clason and the church I'm at now Strategy Guide for Social Media. And it's twofold and the two fold, they actually hit both of the things that we're trying to talk about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;08;45;58 - 00;09;12;05&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
So the first fold of it is pre film your talks in what pre filming your talks does not only gives you some practice and some opportunity to kind of get ahead of your calendar so that you're not giving up live whenever you're preaching on a Wednesday or Sunday night and looking at your notes for the first time, you've had an opportunity to do it, to deliver it direct to camera, very much like I'm doing right here in this setting, but too, especially for the busy kids.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;12;10 - 00;09;34;24&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
It allows them, if they're truly interested in church, to to to consume the message that you've given to them. I know in my show choir example and karate example from the beginning that Brandon I don't really know because he didn't last very long. His family left the church not too long later. But Megan, like her and her family, like they were committed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;34;29 - 00;09;59;26&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And if I couldn't have offered youth group for them, I know that she would have at least went back and watched the messages because that was something that she was interested in. And so a hybrid approach can actually help the busy kids who can't make it on a Sunday, on a Wednesday, on a Thursday, on a Tuesday, on a whatever day of the week, you end up deciding they can still listen to the message and word of God directly from you, from your mouth, from their youth pastor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;59;31 - 00;10;35;38&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And you can pre film those messages and post those to YouTube. Now you might be thinking like, Yeah, but, but that doesn't really do much for me, especially by way of the kid who's complacent and doesn't really want anything to do with it. And you know, where I would say with that is the other approach to that is when you pre film your messages, it not only gives you some short form message based clipped content that you can post and use and sprinkle in an all throughout your social media, but it also can let you kind of do another set of social media, which is add more of an element of fun.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;10;35;43 - 00;10;59;21&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And when you add more of an element of fun, you can go after that student's heart and again, still, that's the Holy Spirit's job. But what if the reason that they're not interested is just because you youth ministry is boring? And so one of the things that we'll do in our student ministry is we’ll film some fun, quirky, silly, entertainment based content as a staff, as a student ministry team.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;10;59;25 - 00;11;24;40&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
But then other times we will challenge ourselves to do some sort of social media challenge where we'll will invite students to be on camera with us. And so that will give them an opportunity to engage and interact. And then when we've invited them onto camera with us, they'll have an opportunity. Now to see themselves later on social media throughout the week.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;11;24;45 - 00;11;47;00&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And so you can take your long form message content and that can solve the the problem for travel sports. And then you can clip those up into shorts and push people who discover them to watch a YouTube video. And then you can also film some silly content to be discovered by your algorithm and to to engage with the complacent student, the junior with the hood on in the back of the room.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;11;47;05 - 00;12;14;20&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And you can even films from that content with him and post it. And if you take my strategy fully laid out right here on screen, link down below in the show notes, I will detail for you all of how to do that. And I hope that if you go hybrid, it helps of your extracurricular activities and it also helps of your student ministry, complacency, activities and actually, I have detailed for you the entire strategy in the video that's linked right here on the screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;12;14;25 - 00;12;32;31&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
So go ahead, take a look at that. Stop posting announcements to social media. Be better, level it up. You can do it because we're trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. So, as always, don't forget stay hybrid. &lt;/p&gt;
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🥱What about Youth Group Kids who exhibit complacency?<br>
<strong>======================================</strong><br>
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<p><strong>--------------</strong><br>
🕰️<strong>TIMECODES</strong><br>
00:00 The Two Biggest Enemies to your Youth Ministry<br>
01:46 Extra Curriculuars are Killing my Attendance<br>
05:15 Complancey is also killing my youth group<br>
08:04 The Suprising Solution to Youth Sports and Complacency in your Youth Group</p>

<p><strong>TRANSCRIPT</strong><br>
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;32;17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The two biggest enemies in youth ministry are extracurricular activities and the complacent attitude of your students. Tell me if you've heard this before. Tuesday night is karate so that kid can't come on Tuesdays. If that's when you had youth group and then Wednesday nights is when you have show choir. Thursday night, that same kid also has karate. And of course, you can't do Friday night because that's when the football games are like if you've been in that position.</p>

<p>00;00;32;22 - 00;00;53;10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Give me a subscribe. If you've had to navigate when you meet for youth night and turn the bell on for good measure because we're starting a brand new playlist exploring all the different issues of youth ministry, and one of them is scheduling. Like how do you schedule around students and their extracurricular activities? What in the world should we meet?</p>

<p>00;00;53;15 - 00;01;17;43<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They're so busy and it almost makes it feel like extracurricular travel, sports, school sports are the enemy. And here’s the fact even when they do show up in the room, you might be so boring that they're not really willing to make your thing a priority. In fact, we have a video right here where we explore all of that and how you can make your youth ministry one of belonging and purpose and serving.</p>

<p>00;01;17;50 - 00;01;43;18<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But I just had a student the other day say, Hey, listen, I just got so much going on. Sometimes student ministry, it just it doesn't make the cut. And unashamedly that was a text that they sent. And so if the two biggest enemies are travel sports and complacency, I want to challenge you to stick around to the very end of this video because I have a solution for each of those two things extracurriculars and complacency.</p>

<p>00;01;43;33 - 00;02;11;00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Welcome to the High Road Ministry show The Year was 2012 brand new youth Pastor right here. And there were literally three students in my student ministry starting out, one by the name of Brandon, who didn't last very long, one by the name of Megan and then one by the name of Sabrina and Megan and all her friends. And she brought a lot of her friends to youth group.</p>

<p>00;02;11;00 - 00;02;31;58<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So this kind of mattered because she could bring two or three or four different friends with her to youth group. They had show choir and met every single Wednesday night. And so that made Wednesday nights a really tricky night to do youth ministry. But Brandon, the only other boy in the youth ministry, had Tuesday night and Thursday night karate.</p>

<p>00;02;32;03 - 00;02;58;34<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And then of course, Friday nights are like the football game. Like for most towns USA, that's when the high school team is playing its football game. So that really left us with Monday night as an option, which for I can't remember why, but for whatever reason it really wasn't an option. And so I had no idea like what am I supposed to do in to, to make matters worse, I had three kids, so if I choose Wednesday, I lose Megan and all her friends.</p>

<p>00;02;58;34 - 00;03;21;41<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If I choose to, their Thursday, I lose Brandon over to karate. And then the group of three, that's 33% of my students. So like, when am I supposed to plan to do this? I had another student one year who missed summer camp due to a baseball tournament. And then I remember he came up to me after we got back.</p>

<p>00;03;21;41 - 00;03;41;49<br>
Nick Clason<br>
His brother went and all his friends went and so he was at the recap of camp and we shared the recap video and all the students had all their energy and and his tournament had gotten rained out while we were gone. And he came up to me and he said, Next year I'm going to camp no matter what you see.</p>

<p>00;03;41;49 - 00;04;08;43<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Here's what happens once you create some sort of an environment where a student actually wants to be a part and actually wants to belong, it can be a game changer. But the fact of the matter is, especially when you're just getting started out, what do you do when they don't even know you in their thing, their show choir, their karate, their baseball, their basketball, their football, their you fill in the blank, whatever it is.</p>

<p>00;04;08;48 - 00;04;31;46<br>
Nick Clason<br>
What happens when that thing is actually providing more of a place of belonging and more of a place of community than your church? It makes it difficult and honestly, you want to compete with it. You want it to be you want church, you want youth group to be providing more of a place of belonging, more of a place of community.</p>

<p>00;04;31;51 - 00;04;55;39<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But in the life of that student, let's be honest, it really isn't. It's not really providing a place of belonging more than their sport. And so one of the challenges is you are trying to compete with something that is like family to them and you want them to come to something that's already a probably not feeling a little bit like family to them.</p>

<p>00;04;55;44 - 00;05;22;28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And then B is adding another thing onto their already busy plate of calendaring and activities and things that they have to be committed to doing. And so what do we do about youth sports? Listen, I got an idea. Just hang on. What do you do about complacency? Like you've been there, right, where you have kids, Church kids, non church kids, whatever the case might be.</p>

<p>00;05;22;28 - 00;05;41;52<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And they really like they don't want to be there like you. Like the archetype of student I'm thinking of is the junior in high school comes to youth group hood on air pods in back row. They're just not interested. Like you get up, you got a game, They don't care about the game. You get up, you got a cute video.</p>

<p>00;05;41;52 - 00;06;01;46<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They don't care about the cute video. You see them saying like, how do you reach that kid? And in most cases, that kid is his heart's definitely not in to youth group. And there's a lot of factors for that, one of which might be his level or feeling of belonging. And it doesn't have to just be a him.</p>

<p>00;06;01;46 - 00;06;25;02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It could be her, right? But we're we're using a certain archetype, and so we'll just keep using that junior boy student with the AirPods in as an example. But nothing's changing. Like just because you have a game, just because you have a cool message, just because you have clever announcements, none of those things are reaching them because he's complacent.</p>

<p>00;06;25;02 - 00;06;55;47<br>
Nick Clason<br>
He's he's not or she's not into whatever you have doing. They're honestly they're being forced to be at church. And here's the thing. That is a really tough pill for us to swallow. Sometimes as youth pastors, is students physical attendance in the room Does not equal an our authentic heart level buy in of what's going on, not only in youth group, but frankly, in faith as it pertains to their relationship with God.</p>

<p>00;06;55;52 - 00;07;17;22<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Because you don't want to just go after their physical attendance, you know what I'm saying? Their physical attendance is not the goal, only their heart being bought into it. Their heart being bought into it is the goal. And so you might be asking, Well, how do I chaste their heart? That's a great question. And in a lot of cases you don't.</p>

<p>00;07;17;27 - 00;07;45;09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
That's the Holy Spirit's role in their life. So you can pray for them and you can try to program creatively in such a way that that they find that and you can try to develop a type of community that's authentic and real and raw that most Gen Z, most Gen Alpha students are actually looking for and that community can take root and that student's life so that they belong to their group before they really truly start to exhibit elements of belief.</p>

<p>00;07;45;14 - 00;08;13;59<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But you can't change their heart. You know that that's the Holy Spirit shop. But just like travel sports and now with an attitude of complacency or just a bad attitude in general, I do have two ideas that I think can change the game in both of those arenas, and we're going to hit that in the next section. So my idea for travel sports and my idea for a complacent attitude is actually one in the same.</p>

<p>00;08;14;04 - 00;08;45;58<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And the idea, of course, is to try to go hybrid. Now, listen, you're like, dude, you're the hybrid ministry podcast. Of course you're thinking that. And yeah, I am. But I have detailed an outline for you in my 100% completely free e-book. It's basically my Nick Clason and the church I'm at now Strategy Guide for Social Media. And it's twofold and the two fold, they actually hit both of the things that we're trying to talk about.</p>

<p>00;08;45;58 - 00;09;12;05<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So the first fold of it is pre film your talks in what pre filming your talks does not only gives you some practice and some opportunity to kind of get ahead of your calendar so that you're not giving up live whenever you're preaching on a Wednesday or Sunday night and looking at your notes for the first time, you've had an opportunity to do it, to deliver it direct to camera, very much like I'm doing right here in this setting, but too, especially for the busy kids.</p>

<p>00;09;12;10 - 00;09;34;24<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It allows them, if they're truly interested in church, to to to consume the message that you've given to them. I know in my show choir example and karate example from the beginning that Brandon I don't really know because he didn't last very long. His family left the church not too long later. But Megan, like her and her family, like they were committed.</p>

<p>00;09;34;29 - 00;09;59;26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And if I couldn't have offered youth group for them, I know that she would have at least went back and watched the messages because that was something that she was interested in. And so a hybrid approach can actually help the busy kids who can't make it on a Sunday, on a Wednesday, on a Thursday, on a Tuesday, on a whatever day of the week, you end up deciding they can still listen to the message and word of God directly from you, from your mouth, from their youth pastor.</p>

<p>00;09;59;31 - 00;10;35;38<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And you can pre film those messages and post those to YouTube. Now you might be thinking like, Yeah, but, but that doesn't really do much for me, especially by way of the kid who's complacent and doesn't really want anything to do with it. And you know, where I would say with that is the other approach to that is when you pre film your messages, it not only gives you some short form message based clipped content that you can post and use and sprinkle in an all throughout your social media, but it also can let you kind of do another set of social media, which is add more of an element of fun.</p>

<p>00;10;35;43 - 00;10;59;21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And when you add more of an element of fun, you can go after that student's heart and again, still, that's the Holy Spirit's job. But what if the reason that they're not interested is just because you youth ministry is boring? And so one of the things that we'll do in our student ministry is we’ll film some fun, quirky, silly, entertainment based content as a staff, as a student ministry team.</p>

<p>00;10;59;25 - 00;11;24;40<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But then other times we will challenge ourselves to do some sort of social media challenge where we'll will invite students to be on camera with us. And so that will give them an opportunity to engage and interact. And then when we've invited them onto camera with us, they'll have an opportunity. Now to see themselves later on social media throughout the week.</p>

<p>00;11;24;45 - 00;11;47;00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And so you can take your long form message content and that can solve the the problem for travel sports. And then you can clip those up into shorts and push people who discover them to watch a YouTube video. And then you can also film some silly content to be discovered by your algorithm and to to engage with the complacent student, the junior with the hood on in the back of the room.</p>

<p>00;11;47;05 - 00;12;14;20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And you can even films from that content with him and post it. And if you take my strategy fully laid out right here on screen, link down below in the show notes, I will detail for you all of how to do that. And I hope that if you go hybrid, it helps of your extracurricular activities and it also helps of your student ministry, complacency, activities and actually, I have detailed for you the entire strategy in the video that's linked right here on the screen.</p>

<p>00;12;14;25 - 00;12;32;31<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So go ahead, take a look at that. Stop posting announcements to social media. Be better, level it up. You can do it because we're trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. So, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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<strong>DESCRIPTION</strong><br>
🏅Travel Sports and Youth Group. They have been the bain of youth pastor’s existence for years.<br>
🗓️What if they don’t have to be the enemy?<br>
🥱What about Youth Group Kids who exhibit complacency?<br>
<strong>======================================</strong><br>
📓<strong>SHOWNOTES</strong><br>
//SHOWNOTES &amp; TRANSCRIPTS<br>
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<p>YOUR MESSAGES ARE BORING<br>
//<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqOPjD5hN-g&amp;t=8s" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqOPjD5hN-g&amp;t=8s</a></p>

<p>STOP IGNORING SOCIAL MEDIA<br>
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🕰️<strong>TIMECODES</strong><br>
00:00 The Two Biggest Enemies to your Youth Ministry<br>
01:46 Extra Curriculuars are Killing my Attendance<br>
05:15 Complancey is also killing my youth group<br>
08:04 The Suprising Solution to Youth Sports and Complacency in your Youth Group</p>

<p><strong>TRANSCRIPT</strong><br>
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;32;17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The two biggest enemies in youth ministry are extracurricular activities and the complacent attitude of your students. Tell me if you've heard this before. Tuesday night is karate so that kid can't come on Tuesdays. If that's when you had youth group and then Wednesday nights is when you have show choir. Thursday night, that same kid also has karate. And of course, you can't do Friday night because that's when the football games are like if you've been in that position.</p>

<p>00;00;32;22 - 00;00;53;10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Give me a subscribe. If you've had to navigate when you meet for youth night and turn the bell on for good measure because we're starting a brand new playlist exploring all the different issues of youth ministry, and one of them is scheduling. Like how do you schedule around students and their extracurricular activities? What in the world should we meet?</p>

<p>00;00;53;15 - 00;01;17;43<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They're so busy and it almost makes it feel like extracurricular travel, sports, school sports are the enemy. And here’s the fact even when they do show up in the room, you might be so boring that they're not really willing to make your thing a priority. In fact, we have a video right here where we explore all of that and how you can make your youth ministry one of belonging and purpose and serving.</p>

<p>00;01;17;50 - 00;01;43;18<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But I just had a student the other day say, Hey, listen, I just got so much going on. Sometimes student ministry, it just it doesn't make the cut. And unashamedly that was a text that they sent. And so if the two biggest enemies are travel sports and complacency, I want to challenge you to stick around to the very end of this video because I have a solution for each of those two things extracurriculars and complacency.</p>

<p>00;01;43;33 - 00;02;11;00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Welcome to the High Road Ministry show The Year was 2012 brand new youth Pastor right here. And there were literally three students in my student ministry starting out, one by the name of Brandon, who didn't last very long, one by the name of Megan and then one by the name of Sabrina and Megan and all her friends. And she brought a lot of her friends to youth group.</p>

<p>00;02;11;00 - 00;02;31;58<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So this kind of mattered because she could bring two or three or four different friends with her to youth group. They had show choir and met every single Wednesday night. And so that made Wednesday nights a really tricky night to do youth ministry. But Brandon, the only other boy in the youth ministry, had Tuesday night and Thursday night karate.</p>

<p>00;02;32;03 - 00;02;58;34<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And then of course, Friday nights are like the football game. Like for most towns USA, that's when the high school team is playing its football game. So that really left us with Monday night as an option, which for I can't remember why, but for whatever reason it really wasn't an option. And so I had no idea like what am I supposed to do in to, to make matters worse, I had three kids, so if I choose Wednesday, I lose Megan and all her friends.</p>

<p>00;02;58;34 - 00;03;21;41<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If I choose to, their Thursday, I lose Brandon over to karate. And then the group of three, that's 33% of my students. So like, when am I supposed to plan to do this? I had another student one year who missed summer camp due to a baseball tournament. And then I remember he came up to me after we got back.</p>

<p>00;03;21;41 - 00;03;41;49<br>
Nick Clason<br>
His brother went and all his friends went and so he was at the recap of camp and we shared the recap video and all the students had all their energy and and his tournament had gotten rained out while we were gone. And he came up to me and he said, Next year I'm going to camp no matter what you see.</p>

<p>00;03;41;49 - 00;04;08;43<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Here's what happens once you create some sort of an environment where a student actually wants to be a part and actually wants to belong, it can be a game changer. But the fact of the matter is, especially when you're just getting started out, what do you do when they don't even know you in their thing, their show choir, their karate, their baseball, their basketball, their football, their you fill in the blank, whatever it is.</p>

<p>00;04;08;48 - 00;04;31;46<br>
Nick Clason<br>
What happens when that thing is actually providing more of a place of belonging and more of a place of community than your church? It makes it difficult and honestly, you want to compete with it. You want it to be you want church, you want youth group to be providing more of a place of belonging, more of a place of community.</p>

<p>00;04;31;51 - 00;04;55;39<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But in the life of that student, let's be honest, it really isn't. It's not really providing a place of belonging more than their sport. And so one of the challenges is you are trying to compete with something that is like family to them and you want them to come to something that's already a probably not feeling a little bit like family to them.</p>

<p>00;04;55;44 - 00;05;22;28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And then B is adding another thing onto their already busy plate of calendaring and activities and things that they have to be committed to doing. And so what do we do about youth sports? Listen, I got an idea. Just hang on. What do you do about complacency? Like you've been there, right, where you have kids, Church kids, non church kids, whatever the case might be.</p>

<p>00;05;22;28 - 00;05;41;52<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And they really like they don't want to be there like you. Like the archetype of student I'm thinking of is the junior in high school comes to youth group hood on air pods in back row. They're just not interested. Like you get up, you got a game, They don't care about the game. You get up, you got a cute video.</p>

<p>00;05;41;52 - 00;06;01;46<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They don't care about the cute video. You see them saying like, how do you reach that kid? And in most cases, that kid is his heart's definitely not in to youth group. And there's a lot of factors for that, one of which might be his level or feeling of belonging. And it doesn't have to just be a him.</p>

<p>00;06;01;46 - 00;06;25;02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It could be her, right? But we're we're using a certain archetype, and so we'll just keep using that junior boy student with the AirPods in as an example. But nothing's changing. Like just because you have a game, just because you have a cool message, just because you have clever announcements, none of those things are reaching them because he's complacent.</p>

<p>00;06;25;02 - 00;06;55;47<br>
Nick Clason<br>
He's he's not or she's not into whatever you have doing. They're honestly they're being forced to be at church. And here's the thing. That is a really tough pill for us to swallow. Sometimes as youth pastors, is students physical attendance in the room Does not equal an our authentic heart level buy in of what's going on, not only in youth group, but frankly, in faith as it pertains to their relationship with God.</p>

<p>00;06;55;52 - 00;07;17;22<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Because you don't want to just go after their physical attendance, you know what I'm saying? Their physical attendance is not the goal, only their heart being bought into it. Their heart being bought into it is the goal. And so you might be asking, Well, how do I chaste their heart? That's a great question. And in a lot of cases you don't.</p>

<p>00;07;17;27 - 00;07;45;09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
That's the Holy Spirit's role in their life. So you can pray for them and you can try to program creatively in such a way that that they find that and you can try to develop a type of community that's authentic and real and raw that most Gen Z, most Gen Alpha students are actually looking for and that community can take root and that student's life so that they belong to their group before they really truly start to exhibit elements of belief.</p>

<p>00;07;45;14 - 00;08;13;59<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But you can't change their heart. You know that that's the Holy Spirit shop. But just like travel sports and now with an attitude of complacency or just a bad attitude in general, I do have two ideas that I think can change the game in both of those arenas, and we're going to hit that in the next section. So my idea for travel sports and my idea for a complacent attitude is actually one in the same.</p>

<p>00;08;14;04 - 00;08;45;58<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And the idea, of course, is to try to go hybrid. Now, listen, you're like, dude, you're the hybrid ministry podcast. Of course you're thinking that. And yeah, I am. But I have detailed an outline for you in my 100% completely free e-book. It's basically my Nick Clason and the church I'm at now Strategy Guide for Social Media. And it's twofold and the two fold, they actually hit both of the things that we're trying to talk about.</p>

<p>00;08;45;58 - 00;09;12;05<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So the first fold of it is pre film your talks in what pre filming your talks does not only gives you some practice and some opportunity to kind of get ahead of your calendar so that you're not giving up live whenever you're preaching on a Wednesday or Sunday night and looking at your notes for the first time, you've had an opportunity to do it, to deliver it direct to camera, very much like I'm doing right here in this setting, but too, especially for the busy kids.</p>

<p>00;09;12;10 - 00;09;34;24<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It allows them, if they're truly interested in church, to to to consume the message that you've given to them. I know in my show choir example and karate example from the beginning that Brandon I don't really know because he didn't last very long. His family left the church not too long later. But Megan, like her and her family, like they were committed.</p>

<p>00;09;34;29 - 00;09;59;26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And if I couldn't have offered youth group for them, I know that she would have at least went back and watched the messages because that was something that she was interested in. And so a hybrid approach can actually help the busy kids who can't make it on a Sunday, on a Wednesday, on a Thursday, on a Tuesday, on a whatever day of the week, you end up deciding they can still listen to the message and word of God directly from you, from your mouth, from their youth pastor.</p>

<p>00;09;59;31 - 00;10;35;38<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And you can pre film those messages and post those to YouTube. Now you might be thinking like, Yeah, but, but that doesn't really do much for me, especially by way of the kid who's complacent and doesn't really want anything to do with it. And you know, where I would say with that is the other approach to that is when you pre film your messages, it not only gives you some short form message based clipped content that you can post and use and sprinkle in an all throughout your social media, but it also can let you kind of do another set of social media, which is add more of an element of fun.</p>

<p>00;10;35;43 - 00;10;59;21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And when you add more of an element of fun, you can go after that student's heart and again, still, that's the Holy Spirit's job. But what if the reason that they're not interested is just because you youth ministry is boring? And so one of the things that we'll do in our student ministry is we’ll film some fun, quirky, silly, entertainment based content as a staff, as a student ministry team.</p>

<p>00;10;59;25 - 00;11;24;40<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But then other times we will challenge ourselves to do some sort of social media challenge where we'll will invite students to be on camera with us. And so that will give them an opportunity to engage and interact. And then when we've invited them onto camera with us, they'll have an opportunity. Now to see themselves later on social media throughout the week.</p>

<p>00;11;24;45 - 00;11;47;00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And so you can take your long form message content and that can solve the the problem for travel sports. And then you can clip those up into shorts and push people who discover them to watch a YouTube video. And then you can also film some silly content to be discovered by your algorithm and to to engage with the complacent student, the junior with the hood on in the back of the room.</p>

<p>00;11;47;05 - 00;12;14;20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And you can even films from that content with him and post it. And if you take my strategy fully laid out right here on screen, link down below in the show notes, I will detail for you all of how to do that. And I hope that if you go hybrid, it helps of your extracurricular activities and it also helps of your student ministry, complacency, activities and actually, I have detailed for you the entire strategy in the video that's linked right here on the screen.</p>

<p>00;12;14;25 - 00;12;32;31<br>
Nick Clason<br>
So go ahead, take a look at that. Stop posting announcements to social media. Be better, level it up. You can do it because we're trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. So, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 086: 😨 Reaction: Carey Nieuwhof’s 2024 Church Trends</title>
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  <itunes:episode>086</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>😨 Reaction: Carey Nieuwhof’s 2024 Church Trends</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Nick Clason</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>🔥 Carey Niuwhof has recently been dropping some hot takes on the future of the church.
👓 In this episode, Nick reacts from a Hybrid Ministry and Youth Ministry perspective!
🎱 Number 8 is crazy!</itunes:subtitle>
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&lt;strong&gt;======================================&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
🔥 Carey Niuwhof has recently been dropping some hot takes on the future of the church.&lt;br&gt;
👓 In this episode, Nick reacts from a Hybrid Ministry and Youth Ministry perspective!&lt;br&gt;
🎱 Number 8 is crazy!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Carey's 2024 Church Trends Article&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;======================================&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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🕰️&lt;strong&gt;TIMECODES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
00:00 Carey Nieuwhof's 2024 Church Trends Article&lt;br&gt;
00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal&lt;br&gt;
04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open&lt;br&gt;
06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift?&lt;br&gt;
08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry!&lt;br&gt;
09:14 The Weekend Sermon is less important&lt;br&gt;
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13:30 Pastoral Burnout is on the decline!&lt;/p&gt;

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittin’ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhof’s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, “A spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
This all from Nieuwhof’s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason&lt;br&gt;
If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid. &lt;/p&gt;
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🕰️<strong>TIMECODES</strong><br>
00:00 Carey Nieuwhof's 2024 Church Trends Article<br>
00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal<br>
04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open<br>
06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift?<br>
08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry!<br>
09:14 The Weekend Sermon is less important<br>
10:49 Content Curation Matters!<br>
12:00 Volunteerism isn't going to get better<br>
13:30 Pastoral Burnout is on the decline!</p>

<p><strong>--------------</strong><br>
✍️<strong>TRANSCRIPT</strong><br>
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here.</p>

<p>00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittin’ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear.</p>

<p>00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe.</p>

<p>00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it!</p>

<p>00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space.</p>

<p>00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhof’s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing.</p>

<p>00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen.</p>

<p>00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for.</p>

<p>00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach.</p>

<p>00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity.</p>

<p>00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God.</p>

<p>00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving.</p>

<p>00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open.</p>

<p>00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%.</p>

<p>00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, “A spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now.</p>

<p>00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend.</p>

<p>00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand.</p>

<p>00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together.</p>

<p>00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience.</p>

<p>00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God.</p>

<p>00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100.</p>

<p>00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services.</p>

<p>00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it.</p>

<p>00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right.</p>

<p>00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon.</p>

<p>00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore.</p>

<p>00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online.</p>

<p>00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
This all from Nieuwhof’s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet.</p>

<p>00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people?</p>

<p>00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right?</p>

<p>00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected.</p>

<p>00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out.</p>

<p>00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem.</p>

<p>00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14<br>
Nick Clason<br>
How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission.</p>

<p>00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout.</p>

<p>00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen.</p>

<p>00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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🕰️<strong>TIMECODES</strong><br>
00:00 Carey Nieuwhof's 2024 Church Trends Article<br>
00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal<br>
04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open<br>
06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift?<br>
08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry!<br>
09:14 The Weekend Sermon is less important<br>
10:49 Content Curation Matters!<br>
12:00 Volunteerism isn't going to get better<br>
13:30 Pastoral Burnout is on the decline!</p>

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✍️<strong>TRANSCRIPT</strong><br>
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here.</p>

<p>00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittin’ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear.</p>

<p>00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20<br>
Nick Clason<br>
This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe.</p>

<p>00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it!</p>

<p>00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space.</p>

<p>00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhof’s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing.</p>

<p>00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen.</p>

<p>00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for.</p>

<p>00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach.</p>

<p>00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity.</p>

<p>00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God.</p>

<p>00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving.</p>

<p>00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open.</p>

<p>00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%.</p>

<p>00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, “A spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now.</p>

<p>00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03<br>
Nick Clason<br>
The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend.</p>

<p>00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand.</p>

<p>00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together.</p>

<p>00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience.</p>

<p>00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God.</p>

<p>00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100.</p>

<p>00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services.</p>

<p>00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it.</p>

<p>00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right.</p>

<p>00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon.</p>

<p>00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore.</p>

<p>00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09<br>
Nick Clason<br>
You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online.</p>

<p>00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
This all from Nieuwhof’s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet.</p>

<p>00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02<br>
Nick Clason<br>
It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people?</p>

<p>00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28<br>
Nick Clason<br>
I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right?</p>

<p>00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected.</p>

<p>00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out.</p>

<p>00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem.</p>

<p>00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14<br>
Nick Clason<br>
How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission.</p>

<p>00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26<br>
Nick Clason<br>
And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout.</p>

<p>00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10<br>
Nick Clason<br>
But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen.</p>

<p>00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19<br>
Nick Clason<br>
If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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