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    <description>Hybrid Ministry is complicated and hard. Or is it? 
How do pastors and youth pastors create a vibrant extension, not replacement, of what's already happening during their weekly church services? To cater in a digital ministry way to an online focused ministry audience. Reaching Millennials, Gen Z and even Gen Alpha is going to require us to rethink some of the ways we do church.
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    <itunes:summary>Hybrid Ministry is complicated and hard. Or is it? 
How do pastors and youth pastors create a vibrant extension, not replacement, of what's already happening during their weekly church services? To cater in a digital ministry way to an online focused ministry audience. Reaching Millennials, Gen Z and even Gen Alpha is going to require us to rethink some of the ways we do church.
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  <itunes:title>The Student Ministry Leadership Mistakes I Made My First 6 Months</itunes:title>
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Six months into leading this&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
team, I realized&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
something uncomfortable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you're good at leading people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I've made in my first&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that's actually happened in my life.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let's be honest. There's always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn't feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you're our number one choice. You're our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn't be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I've learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let's dive in to the first leadership mistake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here's what I thought. I thought I'm the boss. I'm the supervisor. I'm the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
But here's what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don't get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn't that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And I'm not a big meeting guy like I don't, I don't mind them, but they don't bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I've learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And so the advice I would give if you've never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I'm not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I've learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Especially when you're in a situation like I'm in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don't get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
The choice is yours. But that's one of the things I've had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can't communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
But what I've learned is that people can't actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I've said words doesn't mean that they're understanding it. The exact same way that I'm thinking that they're understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
You can check out the link down below if you're interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren't enough.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there's more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here's why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn't think it was that big of a deal, or they didn't listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Or when I said, hey, let's get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that's just not going to cut it. It's not fast enough.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And there's a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn't keeping up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
What I've learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I've communicated 100% of it, I've maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He's, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I'd write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an Enneagram one. Don't expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And here's what I thought. I thought, I'm going to step into this new role, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. And while I'm doing what I'm doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who's in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we're, pulling together in our student ministry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I'm doing here is managing these people. They're the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And when they're having a tough time getting across the finish line, they're having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn't. I was feeling like I wasn't successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don't mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don't get to do as much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here's the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It's a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
I'd love for you to take a look at it. There's a seven day free trial link down below. It's called Hybrid Heroes. It's part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
It costs money to other people, but it's free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It's $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't have enough money for that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that's what I did. And I'm just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
I've been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn't happen when you're coasting, right? And no matter what you're doing and no matter what area you're growing in and learning in, whether it's growing in management skills like I am or whether it's trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04&lt;br&gt;
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry&lt;br&gt;
But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don't forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid. &lt;/p&gt;
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Six months into leading this</p>

<p>00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
team, I realized</p>

<p>00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
something uncomfortable.</p>

<p>00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you&#39;re good at leading people.</p>

<p>00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I&#39;ve made in my first</p>

<p>00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.</p>

<p>00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.</p>

<p>00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that&#39;s actually happened in my life.</p>

<p>00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let&#39;s be honest. There&#39;s always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.</p>

<p>00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn&#39;t feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.</p>

<p>00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you&#39;re our number one choice. You&#39;re our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.</p>

<p>00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn&#39;t be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.</p>

<p>00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I&#39;ve learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let&#39;s dive in to the first leadership mistake.</p>

<p>00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here&#39;s what I thought. I thought I&#39;m the boss. I&#39;m the supervisor. I&#39;m the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.</p>

<p>00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don&#39;t get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.</p>

<p>00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn&#39;t that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.</p>

<p>00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.</p>

<p>00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.</p>

<p>00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;m not a big meeting guy like I don&#39;t, I don&#39;t mind them, but they don&#39;t bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I&#39;ve learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.</p>

<p>00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so the advice I would give if you&#39;ve never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I&#39;m not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I&#39;ve learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.</p>

<p>00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Especially when you&#39;re in a situation like I&#39;m in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don&#39;t get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.</p>

<p>00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
The choice is yours. But that&#39;s one of the things I&#39;ve had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can&#39;t communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.</p>

<p>00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But what I&#39;ve learned is that people can&#39;t actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I&#39;ve said words doesn&#39;t mean that they&#39;re understanding it. The exact same way that I&#39;m thinking that they&#39;re understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.</p>

<p>00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can check out the link down below if you&#39;re interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren&#39;t enough.</p>

<p>00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there&#39;s more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here&#39;s why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.</p>

<p>00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn&#39;t think it was that big of a deal, or they didn&#39;t listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.</p>

<p>00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, let&#39;s get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that&#39;s just not going to cut it. It&#39;s not fast enough.</p>

<p>00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And there&#39;s a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn&#39;t keeping up.</p>

<p>00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I&#39;ve communicated 100% of it, I&#39;ve maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He&#39;s, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.</p>

<p>00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I&#39;d write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.</p>

<p>00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I&#39;m a perfectionist. I&#39;m an Enneagram one. Don&#39;t expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s what I thought. I thought, I&#39;m going to step into this new role, and I&#39;m just going to keep doing what I&#39;m doing. And while I&#39;m doing what I&#39;m doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.</p>

<p>00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who&#39;s in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we&#39;re, pulling together in our student ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I&#39;m doing here is managing these people. They&#39;re the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.</p>

<p>00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.</p>

<p>00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.</p>

<p>00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And when they&#39;re having a tough time getting across the finish line, they&#39;re having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn&#39;t. I was feeling like I wasn&#39;t successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.</p>

<p>00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I&#39;m just going to sit here and I&#39;m just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don&#39;t mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don&#39;t get to do as much.</p>

<p>00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here&#39;s the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It&#39;s a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.</p>

<p>00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;d love for you to take a look at it. There&#39;s a seven day free trial link down below. It&#39;s called Hybrid Heroes. It&#39;s part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.</p>

<p>00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
It costs money to other people, but it&#39;s free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It&#39;s $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don&#39;t feel comfortable doing that. I don&#39;t have enough money for that.</p>

<p>00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that&#39;s what I did. And I&#39;m just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.</p>

<p>00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;ve been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn&#39;t happen when you&#39;re coasting, right? And no matter what you&#39;re doing and no matter what area you&#39;re growing in and learning in, whether it&#39;s growing in management skills like I am or whether it&#39;s trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?</p>

<p>00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don&#39;t forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Six months into leading this</p>

<p>00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
team, I realized</p>

<p>00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
something uncomfortable.</p>

<p>00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you&#39;re good at leading people.</p>

<p>00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I&#39;ve made in my first</p>

<p>00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.</p>

<p>00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.</p>

<p>00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that&#39;s actually happened in my life.</p>

<p>00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let&#39;s be honest. There&#39;s always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.</p>

<p>00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn&#39;t feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.</p>

<p>00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you&#39;re our number one choice. You&#39;re our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.</p>

<p>00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn&#39;t be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.</p>

<p>00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I&#39;ve learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let&#39;s dive in to the first leadership mistake.</p>

<p>00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here&#39;s what I thought. I thought I&#39;m the boss. I&#39;m the supervisor. I&#39;m the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.</p>

<p>00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don&#39;t get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.</p>

<p>00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn&#39;t that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.</p>

<p>00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.</p>

<p>00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.</p>

<p>00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;m not a big meeting guy like I don&#39;t, I don&#39;t mind them, but they don&#39;t bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I&#39;ve learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.</p>

<p>00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so the advice I would give if you&#39;ve never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I&#39;m not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I&#39;ve learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.</p>

<p>00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Especially when you&#39;re in a situation like I&#39;m in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don&#39;t get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.</p>

<p>00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
The choice is yours. But that&#39;s one of the things I&#39;ve had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can&#39;t communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.</p>

<p>00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But what I&#39;ve learned is that people can&#39;t actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I&#39;ve said words doesn&#39;t mean that they&#39;re understanding it. The exact same way that I&#39;m thinking that they&#39;re understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.</p>

<p>00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can check out the link down below if you&#39;re interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren&#39;t enough.</p>

<p>00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there&#39;s more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here&#39;s why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.</p>

<p>00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn&#39;t think it was that big of a deal, or they didn&#39;t listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.</p>

<p>00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, let&#39;s get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that&#39;s just not going to cut it. It&#39;s not fast enough.</p>

<p>00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And there&#39;s a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn&#39;t keeping up.</p>

<p>00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I&#39;ve communicated 100% of it, I&#39;ve maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He&#39;s, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.</p>

<p>00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I&#39;d write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.</p>

<p>00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I&#39;m a perfectionist. I&#39;m an Enneagram one. Don&#39;t expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s what I thought. I thought, I&#39;m going to step into this new role, and I&#39;m just going to keep doing what I&#39;m doing. And while I&#39;m doing what I&#39;m doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.</p>

<p>00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who&#39;s in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we&#39;re, pulling together in our student ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I&#39;m doing here is managing these people. They&#39;re the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.</p>

<p>00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.</p>

<p>00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.</p>

<p>00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And when they&#39;re having a tough time getting across the finish line, they&#39;re having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn&#39;t. I was feeling like I wasn&#39;t successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.</p>

<p>00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I&#39;m just going to sit here and I&#39;m just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don&#39;t mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don&#39;t get to do as much.</p>

<p>00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here&#39;s the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It&#39;s a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.</p>

<p>00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;d love for you to take a look at it. There&#39;s a seven day free trial link down below. It&#39;s called Hybrid Heroes. It&#39;s part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.</p>

<p>00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
It costs money to other people, but it&#39;s free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It&#39;s $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don&#39;t feel comfortable doing that. I don&#39;t have enough money for that.</p>

<p>00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that&#39;s what I did. And I&#39;m just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.</p>

<p>00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;ve been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn&#39;t happen when you&#39;re coasting, right? And no matter what you&#39;re doing and no matter what area you&#39;re growing in and learning in, whether it&#39;s growing in management skills like I am or whether it&#39;s trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?</p>

<p>00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don&#39;t forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:subtitle>🥱 Are you tired? 
🫠 Overwhelmed?
🏁 Even if you’re not, don’t you just feel like the rat race of church ministry never ends?

🕥 Don't let time slip through your fingers; start streamlining your schedule today to make the most of every minute you invest in your ministry and the lives of young people. 

💪 Prepare to be empowered, motivated, and equipped to take your time management skills to the next level. By implementing the strategies shared in this video, you'll be well on your way to becoming a more organized, efficient, and impactful youth pastor. 

⚡ If you're ready to take charge of your time and elevate your ministry to new heights, hit that play button and let "The Ultimate Guide to Time Management for Youth Pastors" be your guiding light. 

Subscribe to our channel and don't miss any more videos from the **2024 Youth Ministry Masterclass FREE on YouTube**</itunes:subtitle>
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🥱 Are you tired? &lt;br&gt;
🫠 Overwhelmed?&lt;br&gt;
🏁 Even if you’re not, don’t you just feel like the rat race of church ministry never ends?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;🕥 Don't let time slip through your fingers; start streamlining your schedule today to make the most of every minute you invest in your ministry and the lives of young people. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;💪 Prepare to be empowered, motivated, and equipped to take your time management skills to the next level. By implementing the strategies shared in this video, you'll be well on your way to becoming a more organized, efficient, and impactful youth pastor. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;⚡ If you're ready to take charge of your time and elevate your ministry to new heights, hit that play button and let "The Ultimate Guide to Time Management for Youth Pastors" be your guiding light. &lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;📓&lt;strong&gt;SHOWNOTES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Technique #1: Make a list&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Technique#2: Calendaring&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Technique #3: Make appointments with yourself&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Technique #4: Schedule your relationships&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;🕰️&lt;strong&gt;TIMECODES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
00:00-02:21 Get More Done&lt;br&gt;
02:21-04:57 The 3 Core Tenets of Time Management&lt;br&gt;
04:57-07:15 Technique #1: Make a list&lt;br&gt;
07:15-08:48 Technique #2: Calendaring&lt;br&gt;
08:48-11:18 Technique #3: Make appointments with yourself&lt;br&gt;
11:18-13:06 Technique #4: Schedule your relationships&lt;br&gt;
13:06-15:25 Technique #5: Delegate, Automate or Eliminiate&lt;br&gt;
15:25-16:04 Avoid Sacrificing your Family on the Altar of Youth Ministry&lt;br&gt;
16:04-17:44 Hack 1: Evenings Count Double&lt;br&gt;
17:44-18:11 Hack 2: Take Advantage of Slower Seasons&lt;br&gt;
18:11-19:24 Hack 3: Take Advantage of your job's flexibility&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;✍️&lt;strong&gt;TRANSCRIPT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (00:01):&lt;br&gt;
Time management for youth pastors? Is it even possible? I mean, think about it. It's like you and I, I'm a youth pastor too. We have multiple jobs. We have pastors, we have executive pastors, we have parents, we have stepparents, we have spouses, our own spouses, we have our children, we have our youth kids that we're trying to minister to. We have the youth leaders. It's like we're answering to so many different people. It can feel so confusing. Who do we try to make happy? Who do we try to cater to? And at the end of the day, how do we make sense of any of this? Because the reality is we have the most important job in the world. Think about it, a hundred years from now, no one's going to care what kind of whipped cream you bought at Walmart for the hot cocoa bar for the upcoming Christmas party, but a hundred years from now, what matters? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (00:50):&lt;br&gt;
What hangs in the balance is the lives and souls of these students, and you've probably heard it before, 94% of born again Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18. I know that that stat alone is the reason why I do what I do. And in this episode we're going to talk about the pillars of time management, what you need to understand from kind of like a philosophical standpoint. Then we're going to chat through the Surefire framework, and then finally, I'm going to give you three hacks to avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of your job. And here's why this is important and here's why I can even talk about this right now. I am currently offering a two-part video series to YM 360 once per month. I'm writing a weekly teaching series for them. I'm also doing weekly YouTube videos right here on this channel. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (01:39):&lt;br&gt;
I'm posting two times daily on social media. I have my very own free ebook, which I'm following that exact strategy for myself on this channel as well as in my student ministry. You can download a copy of that for free link in the show notes. I try to create a weekly game for download youth ministry, and by the way, I have a real job as a youth pastor as well. My boss asked me, do you just never sleep? Do you work all the weekends? How do you get it all done? The reality is I follow these techniques and I want to encourage you to subscribe because we are dropping. This is part one of the 2024 on-Demand Youth Pastor Masterclass, time management. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Okay, so there are three kind of core tenets, philosophical things that you actually to understand when it comes to time management. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (02:29):&lt;br&gt;
These aren't tips, these aren't tactics. These are things that you have to understand first and these have to inform the tips and the tactics. No amount of tips, no amount of tactics will be helpful to you if you don't understand these things. So core tenant number one is that you are 100% responsible for your time and again, like I said at the top, it may not feel that way. It may feel like you have multiple different bosses and that is true. The reality is you are going to be answering to different people and there are going to be times where they are going to dictate &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (02:58):&lt;br&gt;
What do, but at the end of the day, your boss is not flushing out your 40, 45, 50, 55 hour a week schedule. He's just not or she's just not. You are responsible for your time 100%. So you understand that basis. You can then operate out of that. If you are waiting for someone to tell you what to do, then this time management thing is going to just be fleeting and you're not going to be able to get any of this stuff done because you're going to be playing the victim mentality as opposed to taking agency and control for your time. Core tenant number two is this is your overwhelmed. The reason that you may feel overwhelmed, have anxiety, not know what to do, be confused about which task to tackle. It comes from this. It comes from the fact that you have no direction. We're going to get to more about that in a second, but that lack of direction, you need direction. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (03:52):&lt;br&gt;
That direction is what helps give your brain clarity, focus and the ability to just crush tasks on what comes next and get things done. Number three, not all time is created equal. Here's an example. I'm a morning person. You give me two hours in the morning from like 6:00 AM to 8:00 AM I can crush just about any youth sermon. It will be good, it will be coherent, it will make sense, but if you give me that same block of time from 3:00 PM to say 5:00 PM I'm toast. I'm not getting the same amount of work done. You need to know what your key hours are, the hours that you can get the most amount of optimal thinking time done so that you can knock things out. Now let's move on. If we understand those things that you're in charge of your time that you're overwhelmed comes from the fact that you may not have any direction. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (04:41):&lt;br&gt;
And then number three, not all time is created equal with those as the core tenants, with those as the philosophy. Let's build on that and let's get really practical, really hands-on and some things that you can implement in your time management skills in your workweek today. So technique number one is start with a list. I know it sounds basic and you're like, bro, we're on the hybrid ministry show. I thought you're going to give me some bougie next level digital tool. Sure, grab a list that's digital if that's what you want to do. That's what I do. I use Microsoft to do. I hate Microsoft. It used to be called Wonderlist and I use it because it has the ability to be shared. So my wife and I do our groceries on it, but then Microsoft took it over and I still use it, but it's a digital list. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (05:27):&lt;br&gt;
I can use it on my phone, I can use it on a computer. You can use anything. I mean you can use the notes app in your phone. You can use a Daytimer. You can write it down physically with paper, but make a list of everything you have to do and get specific. For example, if you say Plain Wednesday night, yes, you have to do that. You're a youth pastor, that's part of your job. But what goes into planning Wednesday night? That's not very specific because specifically you to write a lesson, you need to send the leader email. You need to schedule your tech team. You need to schedule your greeters, you need to plan the worship set. You need to play in the game. You need to set up chairs. You need to set up the cafe, make sure that the cafe is stocked. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (06:10):&lt;br&gt;
You need to make announcement slides. You need to post a social to remind people about Wednesday and to crush social, you should grab my 100% completely free ebook. It's right down here, link in the description, but nonetheless, you see that, right? You see how Wednesday night planning versus all this other stuff. You see how that is an example of a good to-do list versus a bad to-Do list. Again, if you're like, I know I need to get done with Wednesday, break it all apart. List down every single thing you need to do because you know this as well as I do that as a youth pastor, that's not your only job because in addition to planning Wednesday, maybe you have to plan Sunday and all the little elements that go within that, maybe you have to meet with a volunteer. You need to grab coffee with the student. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (06:55):&lt;br&gt;
You need to have a check-in with your senior pastor. You need to fill in the blank. You know what you have to do, and that's the problem. Not only do we have multiple different jobs, not only do we have multiple different kind of fighters that we might feel like we have to put out, but we also have multiple different focuses in our time. So get them all on paper. That's step one. Step two, calendar. If you are not using a calendar, and once again this is the hybrid ministry show, you got to figure out what works for you, but your calendar needs to dictate what you're doing not only beforehand, but also then you can look back and see how well am I keeping these things if I give myself or you give yourself one hour to craft your Wednesday night, but you have all those tasks to do and it takes you a full day, then you can go back next week and be like, all I'm going to need more hours than one to get ready for Wednesday night. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (07:49):&lt;br&gt;
You can use your calendar to go back and audit how much time it actually takes. You don't shortchange yourself. And that's one of the keys. One of the reasons we get overwhelmed is we try and cram too many things into our calendar and it's just not humanly possible. So look ahead on your calendar, but also look back on your calendar and whatever you do integrate your work and your personal, it's one of the ways that you don't sacrifice your family on the altar of ministry. You don't have to have a calendar that's work and personal together. But when big major things that your personal and family calendar need to be aware of or vice versa, put those things in there, right? If you have a child's doctor appointment during the day, during the weekday when doctor's offices are only open, put it in there so that no one schedules a meeting with you. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (08:38):&lt;br&gt;
No one sees you're out of office, that you're not available, that you are available when you're really not. So make sure that those things talk and communicate with each other. The second, third thing, I'm sorry, third thing, make appointments with yourself. A lot of times people calendar when there's an appointment. I have a meeting with my senior pastor that's on my calendar from nine to 10:00 AM Okay, well, when are you going to write your sermon? Well, just whenever I'm not in that. If you get a notice or a text message from someone and they say, Hey, I want to meet with you, then you can say, Hey, I am available from this time to this time. Because what we often do is pull open our calendar and see a bunch of blank space and be like, I'm free all day. What that's doing is when you're giving someone else control of your calendar, they're going to take whatever time works best for them as opposed to whatever time works best for you. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (09:30):&lt;br&gt;
And so if they take morning sometime between six and 8:00 AM let's say they go to work and they want that morning appointment, well, for me, that's going to eat into my prep time and I'm not going to say no, I'm not going to decline meeting with them, but I am going to drive and dictate and point to where I am most available. I like to do lunches because I can get my work done in the morning and then I have an opportunity for lunch. And if a person's only available for breakfast, then I might have one breakfast slot per week where I will allow someone into there as opposed to let that be prep time. But you can use things like calendly.com and you can give that to people for them to book times with you. And so as long as your calendar is up to date, you've made appointments with other people and you've made appointments with yourself, then now other people can slide into those things. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (10:22):&lt;br&gt;
It is okay to tell somebody no that you're not available to meet with them, not because you don't want to, but because you're busy, but because you've made an appointment with yourself. And then as you're blocking out your calendar, you need to figure out what works best for you, but you need to leave either 60 to 70% margin unscheduled time, and you can block it. You can put it in a calendar, but you can call it margin. You can call it buffer, you can call it reach ahead time. You can call whatever you want to call it. But one of the reasons that we get stressed out is that we schedule ourselves with no margin at all. And so if plan Wednesday night is supposed to take six hours and it takes seven and it eats into the next task that's supposed to come after in the seventh hour, we start to get overwhelmed. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (11:12):&lt;br&gt;
But if we leave a little bit of space, we can leave some of that flex time. We can allow interruptions and we can allow people. Number four, make sure that you do in fact schedule your relationships. Don't just make your calendar, task, task test, test, test, test task, right? Relationships often are the things that feel like interruptions, but if you can account for them, if you have space for them, listen, here's the fact you're probably in youth ministry because you're a relational person. You probably prefer relationships over tasks. I'm more of a task guy. I like prefer tasks over relationships. So you need to figure out your zone and what works for you. But for me, what works for me is I need to relationships. I need to grab lunch with leaders. All right? So a couple of times a week, I got lunch in there for leaders. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (11:58):&lt;br&gt;
I got lunch in there for students. I got space in there after school for students, whatever the case might be, but know where you're going to slide those things in. And again, if you leave that margin, then you can account for the interruptions. If you work on a little bit slightly bigger staff, I know I do. There'll be people, especially people I work with who pop into my office, have conversations. Those can feel frustrating and those can feel like interruptions. But the fact is, if I don't schedule my calendar my week at a hundred percent tasks, then when someone comes in, I can stop. I can pause, I can be present, I can get back to my tasks when that conversation's over and when they are ready to move on. So schedule time for those things. And like I said, a tool that you can use hybridize, this thing is Calendly. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (12:40):&lt;br&gt;
It is a great way, especially if you're like, Hey, I want to grab lunch with you here. Grab a slot here that works for you. Then you take all of that back and forth out like, what about Thursday at six? No, it doesn't work. How about Wednesday at two? No, no, I got appointment. Then you go back and forth, back and forth. You can just be like, Hey, want to grab lunch? Sure, here's what I have available. They book it, boom, you're done. And then they slide right in to your calendar. And then the fifth and final thing in this framework is I stole this from Michael Hyatt and he's the productivity king and guru, but delegate and automate every single thing that you can. He actually challenges you to delegate, automate, and then terminate. So is there anything in your to-do list that you can just be done doing altogether? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (13:30):&lt;br&gt;
Additionally, let's go back to our good example from earlier. Plan Wednesday night, write a lesson that might be a you and you only task, but every single thing else, check this out. Send the leader email. You could probably hand that off to a high level admin, maybe a volunteer, maybe even an intern. Schedule the tech team. Well, that should be the tech leader's job. If you don't have a tech leader, enlist a tech leader and then make that the tech leader's job. How about scheduling the greeters? Well let that be your greeter team lead's job and then planning the worship set. You can hand that off to a worship leader. If you don't have a paid worship leader, you can get a volunteer worship leader that you trust to plan the worship set maybe for a while they run it by you, but then you officially hand that off onto their plate planning the game. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (14:16):&lt;br&gt;
Well, you can hand that off to a high level student who you even want to host. You can let them grab games off of DYM, give them your password, and then boom, they're off and running. What about setting up chairs? Well, that can be your student work crew who comes in once a week and maybe you're giving your student work crew a discount on camp this summer to come in and set up chairs. How about setting up the cafe? You can hand that off to your admin, maybe a cafe. Volunteer team leader. What about making the announcement slides? Hand a student, your Canva Pro password, link to that right here at the top of the video and give them the keys to making your announcement slides. What about posting to social media to remind people about it? Give that job to your students and grab my free ebook so that you are not just posting announcements, but you're posting them in a fun, relevant and witty way. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (15:06):&lt;br&gt;
You see, that's the thing. You can delegate all of that. And so in that list, all you're doing is you are preparing the lesson, but all these other delegations, you have to set those up. They take time. It will take more time to set those up on the front side, but once it gets up and running, you will be a task master. Inevitably part of the job in youth ministry because it's relationships based and because we do our ministry when other people are not at work, when other people are not at school, you and I are going to have moments where youth ministry invades elements of being a dad, of being a family person of relationship with your wife. So how do you avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of ministry? Well, here's three principles and three ideas that I personally live by and that I try to implement in my ministry to help me. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (16:03):&lt;br&gt;
The first one is this is keep in mind that evenings count double. I remember one time a pastor was like, well, if you work on Wednesday night, just don't work Wednesday morning. And that's true, and I'm going to give you that hack here in just a minute as well. However, a Wednesday morning time at home, which I record this podcast every single Wednesday morning, super early in the morning, as soon as I'm done, I'm going to go hang with my family, drive my kids to school, and then hang out with my wife and my youngest who's going to be home. But when I'm not home tonight because of programming, they would rather me be home in the evening. I would rather me be home in the evening, evening hours, count, double. So use your evening hours that you inevitably have to use. You have to use evening hours, but use them sparingly and don't be so quick to give them up. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (16:51):&lt;br&gt;
Be very, very measured in your evening hours. One of the rules of life that me and my wife stumbled into haphazardly because we were giving up way too many evening hours early on in our marriage, was no more than three evenings out per week. We like to be home. You figure out what works best for you, but there's seven nights a week. We can be out three. The other four, we want to be home more than we're out. And that includes youth ministry that included our own personal grow group together as a couple. And then one other thing. And so if someone would ask us like, Hey, do you guys want to get together? We would look at our calendar and for like, well, we're already full this week. We would kick 'em to the next week or something like that, but we knew our limit. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (17:35):&lt;br&gt;
So know your limit. If you're out every single evening and you're just trying to make up for that by being home in the morning, just remember that those count double. The second thing is this, take advantage of slower seasons. Okay? The fact is, Christmas season may be a busy hefty season for your church, especially your worship team, your tech team, your worship leaders, people setting up the stage. But for student ministry, it's often a little slower. So take advantage of that because the reality is those people are not going to be at summer camp, come June when you are and you're away from your family. And so budget for those things and lean into the different rhythms of life. And the third thing is take advantage of the fact that your job has flexibility. You might have work from home capabilities. I know I try to work from home a lot of Thursdays, which is a nice thing that I get to do or I can even do when my kids are at school lunch or breakfast dates with my wife. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick Clason (18:27):&lt;br&gt;
It's cheaper. Don't have to pay for a babysitter, don't have to bring our kids with us. And also, I can comp my Wednesday mornings because I'm going to be working late on Wednesday night, or I might comp a Thursday morning if I work a full day, like a full 12 hour day on Wednesday because of programming. I may come in a little bit late on Thursday. And the fact is, you can make some of those things up. You are responsible for your time, so take advantage of those things. Get approval, make sure your supervisor's okay with it, but take advantage of the flexibility that you have because the thing is this, healthy leaders lead healthy ministries, and we're going to talk about that in the very next episode, which is going to be up here on the screen talking about how to grow your youth ministry, which is one of the things that your boss wants, and probably you want not just for vanity metrics, but also because you want to make an impact on the kingdom of God. So as always, don't forget we're making digital discipleship easy, accessible and possible. Stay hybrid, my friend. &lt;/p&gt;
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00:00-02:21 Get More Done<br>
02:21-04:57 The 3 Core Tenets of Time Management<br>
04:57-07:15 Technique #1: Make a list<br>
07:15-08:48 Technique #2: Calendaring<br>
08:48-11:18 Technique #3: Make appointments with yourself<br>
11:18-13:06 Technique #4: Schedule your relationships<br>
13:06-15:25 Technique #5: Delegate, Automate or Eliminiate<br>
15:25-16:04 Avoid Sacrificing your Family on the Altar of Youth Ministry<br>
16:04-17:44 Hack 1: Evenings Count Double<br>
17:44-18:11 Hack 2: Take Advantage of Slower Seasons<br>
18:11-19:24 Hack 3: Take Advantage of your job&#39;s flexibility</p>

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<p>Nick Clason (00:01):<br>
Time management for youth pastors? Is it even possible? I mean, think about it. It&#39;s like you and I, I&#39;m a youth pastor too. We have multiple jobs. We have pastors, we have executive pastors, we have parents, we have stepparents, we have spouses, our own spouses, we have our children, we have our youth kids that we&#39;re trying to minister to. We have the youth leaders. It&#39;s like we&#39;re answering to so many different people. It can feel so confusing. Who do we try to make happy? Who do we try to cater to? And at the end of the day, how do we make sense of any of this? Because the reality is we have the most important job in the world. Think about it, a hundred years from now, no one&#39;s going to care what kind of whipped cream you bought at Walmart for the hot cocoa bar for the upcoming Christmas party, but a hundred years from now, what matters? </p>

<p>Nick Clason (00:50):<br>
What hangs in the balance is the lives and souls of these students, and you&#39;ve probably heard it before, 94% of born again Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18. I know that that stat alone is the reason why I do what I do. And in this episode we&#39;re going to talk about the pillars of time management, what you need to understand from kind of like a philosophical standpoint. Then we&#39;re going to chat through the Surefire framework, and then finally, I&#39;m going to give you three hacks to avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of your job. And here&#39;s why this is important and here&#39;s why I can even talk about this right now. I am currently offering a two-part video series to YM 360 once per month. I&#39;m writing a weekly teaching series for them. I&#39;m also doing weekly YouTube videos right here on this channel. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (01:39):<br>
I&#39;m posting two times daily on social media. I have my very own free ebook, which I&#39;m following that exact strategy for myself on this channel as well as in my student ministry. You can download a copy of that for free link in the show notes. I try to create a weekly game for download youth ministry, and by the way, I have a real job as a youth pastor as well. My boss asked me, do you just never sleep? Do you work all the weekends? How do you get it all done? The reality is I follow these techniques and I want to encourage you to subscribe because we are dropping. This is part one of the 2024 on-Demand Youth Pastor Masterclass, time management. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Okay, so there are three kind of core tenets, philosophical things that you actually to understand when it comes to time management. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (02:29):<br>
These aren&#39;t tips, these aren&#39;t tactics. These are things that you have to understand first and these have to inform the tips and the tactics. No amount of tips, no amount of tactics will be helpful to you if you don&#39;t understand these things. So core tenant number one is that you are 100% responsible for your time and again, like I said at the top, it may not feel that way. It may feel like you have multiple different bosses and that is true. The reality is you are going to be answering to different people and there are going to be times where they are going to dictate </p>

<p>Nick Clason (02:58):<br>
What do, but at the end of the day, your boss is not flushing out your 40, 45, 50, 55 hour a week schedule. He&#39;s just not or she&#39;s just not. You are responsible for your time 100%. So you understand that basis. You can then operate out of that. If you are waiting for someone to tell you what to do, then this time management thing is going to just be fleeting and you&#39;re not going to be able to get any of this stuff done because you&#39;re going to be playing the victim mentality as opposed to taking agency and control for your time. Core tenant number two is this is your overwhelmed. The reason that you may feel overwhelmed, have anxiety, not know what to do, be confused about which task to tackle. It comes from this. It comes from the fact that you have no direction. We&#39;re going to get to more about that in a second, but that lack of direction, you need direction. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (03:52):<br>
That direction is what helps give your brain clarity, focus and the ability to just crush tasks on what comes next and get things done. Number three, not all time is created equal. Here&#39;s an example. I&#39;m a morning person. You give me two hours in the morning from like 6:00 AM to 8:00 AM I can crush just about any youth sermon. It will be good, it will be coherent, it will make sense, but if you give me that same block of time from 3:00 PM to say 5:00 PM I&#39;m toast. I&#39;m not getting the same amount of work done. You need to know what your key hours are, the hours that you can get the most amount of optimal thinking time done so that you can knock things out. Now let&#39;s move on. If we understand those things that you&#39;re in charge of your time that you&#39;re overwhelmed comes from the fact that you may not have any direction. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (04:41):<br>
And then number three, not all time is created equal with those as the core tenants, with those as the philosophy. Let&#39;s build on that and let&#39;s get really practical, really hands-on and some things that you can implement in your time management skills in your workweek today. So technique number one is start with a list. I know it sounds basic and you&#39;re like, bro, we&#39;re on the hybrid ministry show. I thought you&#39;re going to give me some bougie next level digital tool. Sure, grab a list that&#39;s digital if that&#39;s what you want to do. That&#39;s what I do. I use Microsoft to do. I hate Microsoft. It used to be called Wonderlist and I use it because it has the ability to be shared. So my wife and I do our groceries on it, but then Microsoft took it over and I still use it, but it&#39;s a digital list. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (05:27):<br>
I can use it on my phone, I can use it on a computer. You can use anything. I mean you can use the notes app in your phone. You can use a Daytimer. You can write it down physically with paper, but make a list of everything you have to do and get specific. For example, if you say Plain Wednesday night, yes, you have to do that. You&#39;re a youth pastor, that&#39;s part of your job. But what goes into planning Wednesday night? That&#39;s not very specific because specifically you to write a lesson, you need to send the leader email. You need to schedule your tech team. You need to schedule your greeters, you need to plan the worship set. You need to play in the game. You need to set up chairs. You need to set up the cafe, make sure that the cafe is stocked. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (06:10):<br>
You need to make announcement slides. You need to post a social to remind people about Wednesday and to crush social, you should grab my 100% completely free ebook. It&#39;s right down here, link in the description, but nonetheless, you see that, right? You see how Wednesday night planning versus all this other stuff. You see how that is an example of a good to-do list versus a bad to-Do list. Again, if you&#39;re like, I know I need to get done with Wednesday, break it all apart. List down every single thing you need to do because you know this as well as I do that as a youth pastor, that&#39;s not your only job because in addition to planning Wednesday, maybe you have to plan Sunday and all the little elements that go within that, maybe you have to meet with a volunteer. You need to grab coffee with the student. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (06:55):<br>
You need to have a check-in with your senior pastor. You need to fill in the blank. You know what you have to do, and that&#39;s the problem. Not only do we have multiple different jobs, not only do we have multiple different kind of fighters that we might feel like we have to put out, but we also have multiple different focuses in our time. So get them all on paper. That&#39;s step one. Step two, calendar. If you are not using a calendar, and once again this is the hybrid ministry show, you got to figure out what works for you, but your calendar needs to dictate what you&#39;re doing not only beforehand, but also then you can look back and see how well am I keeping these things if I give myself or you give yourself one hour to craft your Wednesday night, but you have all those tasks to do and it takes you a full day, then you can go back next week and be like, all I&#39;m going to need more hours than one to get ready for Wednesday night. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (07:49):<br>
You can use your calendar to go back and audit how much time it actually takes. You don&#39;t shortchange yourself. And that&#39;s one of the keys. One of the reasons we get overwhelmed is we try and cram too many things into our calendar and it&#39;s just not humanly possible. So look ahead on your calendar, but also look back on your calendar and whatever you do integrate your work and your personal, it&#39;s one of the ways that you don&#39;t sacrifice your family on the altar of ministry. You don&#39;t have to have a calendar that&#39;s work and personal together. But when big major things that your personal and family calendar need to be aware of or vice versa, put those things in there, right? If you have a child&#39;s doctor appointment during the day, during the weekday when doctor&#39;s offices are only open, put it in there so that no one schedules a meeting with you. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (08:38):<br>
No one sees you&#39;re out of office, that you&#39;re not available, that you are available when you&#39;re really not. So make sure that those things talk and communicate with each other. The second, third thing, I&#39;m sorry, third thing, make appointments with yourself. A lot of times people calendar when there&#39;s an appointment. I have a meeting with my senior pastor that&#39;s on my calendar from nine to 10:00 AM Okay, well, when are you going to write your sermon? Well, just whenever I&#39;m not in that. If you get a notice or a text message from someone and they say, Hey, I want to meet with you, then you can say, Hey, I am available from this time to this time. Because what we often do is pull open our calendar and see a bunch of blank space and be like, I&#39;m free all day. What that&#39;s doing is when you&#39;re giving someone else control of your calendar, they&#39;re going to take whatever time works best for them as opposed to whatever time works best for you. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (09:30):<br>
And so if they take morning sometime between six and 8:00 AM let&#39;s say they go to work and they want that morning appointment, well, for me, that&#39;s going to eat into my prep time and I&#39;m not going to say no, I&#39;m not going to decline meeting with them, but I am going to drive and dictate and point to where I am most available. I like to do lunches because I can get my work done in the morning and then I have an opportunity for lunch. And if a person&#39;s only available for breakfast, then I might have one breakfast slot per week where I will allow someone into there as opposed to let that be prep time. But you can use things like calendly.com and you can give that to people for them to book times with you. And so as long as your calendar is up to date, you&#39;ve made appointments with other people and you&#39;ve made appointments with yourself, then now other people can slide into those things. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (10:22):<br>
It is okay to tell somebody no that you&#39;re not available to meet with them, not because you don&#39;t want to, but because you&#39;re busy, but because you&#39;ve made an appointment with yourself. And then as you&#39;re blocking out your calendar, you need to figure out what works best for you, but you need to leave either 60 to 70% margin unscheduled time, and you can block it. You can put it in a calendar, but you can call it margin. You can call it buffer, you can call it reach ahead time. You can call whatever you want to call it. But one of the reasons that we get stressed out is that we schedule ourselves with no margin at all. And so if plan Wednesday night is supposed to take six hours and it takes seven and it eats into the next task that&#39;s supposed to come after in the seventh hour, we start to get overwhelmed. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (11:12):<br>
But if we leave a little bit of space, we can leave some of that flex time. We can allow interruptions and we can allow people. Number four, make sure that you do in fact schedule your relationships. Don&#39;t just make your calendar, task, task test, test, test, test task, right? Relationships often are the things that feel like interruptions, but if you can account for them, if you have space for them, listen, here&#39;s the fact you&#39;re probably in youth ministry because you&#39;re a relational person. You probably prefer relationships over tasks. I&#39;m more of a task guy. I like prefer tasks over relationships. So you need to figure out your zone and what works for you. But for me, what works for me is I need to relationships. I need to grab lunch with leaders. All right? So a couple of times a week, I got lunch in there for leaders. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (11:58):<br>
I got lunch in there for students. I got space in there after school for students, whatever the case might be, but know where you&#39;re going to slide those things in. And again, if you leave that margin, then you can account for the interruptions. If you work on a little bit slightly bigger staff, I know I do. There&#39;ll be people, especially people I work with who pop into my office, have conversations. Those can feel frustrating and those can feel like interruptions. But the fact is, if I don&#39;t schedule my calendar my week at a hundred percent tasks, then when someone comes in, I can stop. I can pause, I can be present, I can get back to my tasks when that conversation&#39;s over and when they are ready to move on. So schedule time for those things. And like I said, a tool that you can use hybridize, this thing is Calendly. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (12:40):<br>
It is a great way, especially if you&#39;re like, Hey, I want to grab lunch with you here. Grab a slot here that works for you. Then you take all of that back and forth out like, what about Thursday at six? No, it doesn&#39;t work. How about Wednesday at two? No, no, I got appointment. Then you go back and forth, back and forth. You can just be like, Hey, want to grab lunch? Sure, here&#39;s what I have available. They book it, boom, you&#39;re done. And then they slide right in to your calendar. And then the fifth and final thing in this framework is I stole this from Michael Hyatt and he&#39;s the productivity king and guru, but delegate and automate every single thing that you can. He actually challenges you to delegate, automate, and then terminate. So is there anything in your to-do list that you can just be done doing altogether? </p>

<p>Nick Clason (13:30):<br>
Additionally, let&#39;s go back to our good example from earlier. Plan Wednesday night, write a lesson that might be a you and you only task, but every single thing else, check this out. Send the leader email. You could probably hand that off to a high level admin, maybe a volunteer, maybe even an intern. Schedule the tech team. Well, that should be the tech leader&#39;s job. If you don&#39;t have a tech leader, enlist a tech leader and then make that the tech leader&#39;s job. How about scheduling the greeters? Well let that be your greeter team lead&#39;s job and then planning the worship set. You can hand that off to a worship leader. If you don&#39;t have a paid worship leader, you can get a volunteer worship leader that you trust to plan the worship set maybe for a while they run it by you, but then you officially hand that off onto their plate planning the game. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (14:16):<br>
Well, you can hand that off to a high level student who you even want to host. You can let them grab games off of DYM, give them your password, and then boom, they&#39;re off and running. What about setting up chairs? Well, that can be your student work crew who comes in once a week and maybe you&#39;re giving your student work crew a discount on camp this summer to come in and set up chairs. How about setting up the cafe? You can hand that off to your admin, maybe a cafe. Volunteer team leader. What about making the announcement slides? Hand a student, your Canva Pro password, link to that right here at the top of the video and give them the keys to making your announcement slides. What about posting to social media to remind people about it? Give that job to your students and grab my free ebook so that you are not just posting announcements, but you&#39;re posting them in a fun, relevant and witty way. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (15:06):<br>
You see, that&#39;s the thing. You can delegate all of that. And so in that list, all you&#39;re doing is you are preparing the lesson, but all these other delegations, you have to set those up. They take time. It will take more time to set those up on the front side, but once it gets up and running, you will be a task master. Inevitably part of the job in youth ministry because it&#39;s relationships based and because we do our ministry when other people are not at work, when other people are not at school, you and I are going to have moments where youth ministry invades elements of being a dad, of being a family person of relationship with your wife. So how do you avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of ministry? Well, here&#39;s three principles and three ideas that I personally live by and that I try to implement in my ministry to help me. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (16:03):<br>
The first one is this is keep in mind that evenings count double. I remember one time a pastor was like, well, if you work on Wednesday night, just don&#39;t work Wednesday morning. And that&#39;s true, and I&#39;m going to give you that hack here in just a minute as well. However, a Wednesday morning time at home, which I record this podcast every single Wednesday morning, super early in the morning, as soon as I&#39;m done, I&#39;m going to go hang with my family, drive my kids to school, and then hang out with my wife and my youngest who&#39;s going to be home. But when I&#39;m not home tonight because of programming, they would rather me be home in the evening. I would rather me be home in the evening, evening hours, count, double. So use your evening hours that you inevitably have to use. You have to use evening hours, but use them sparingly and don&#39;t be so quick to give them up. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (16:51):<br>
Be very, very measured in your evening hours. One of the rules of life that me and my wife stumbled into haphazardly because we were giving up way too many evening hours early on in our marriage, was no more than three evenings out per week. We like to be home. You figure out what works best for you, but there&#39;s seven nights a week. We can be out three. The other four, we want to be home more than we&#39;re out. And that includes youth ministry that included our own personal grow group together as a couple. And then one other thing. And so if someone would ask us like, Hey, do you guys want to get together? We would look at our calendar and for like, well, we&#39;re already full this week. We would kick &#39;em to the next week or something like that, but we knew our limit. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (17:35):<br>
So know your limit. If you&#39;re out every single evening and you&#39;re just trying to make up for that by being home in the morning, just remember that those count double. The second thing is this, take advantage of slower seasons. Okay? The fact is, Christmas season may be a busy hefty season for your church, especially your worship team, your tech team, your worship leaders, people setting up the stage. But for student ministry, it&#39;s often a little slower. So take advantage of that because the reality is those people are not going to be at summer camp, come June when you are and you&#39;re away from your family. And so budget for those things and lean into the different rhythms of life. And the third thing is take advantage of the fact that your job has flexibility. You might have work from home capabilities. I know I try to work from home a lot of Thursdays, which is a nice thing that I get to do or I can even do when my kids are at school lunch or breakfast dates with my wife. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (18:27):<br>
It&#39;s cheaper. Don&#39;t have to pay for a babysitter, don&#39;t have to bring our kids with us. And also, I can comp my Wednesday mornings because I&#39;m going to be working late on Wednesday night, or I might comp a Thursday morning if I work a full day, like a full 12 hour day on Wednesday because of programming. I may come in a little bit late on Thursday. And the fact is, you can make some of those things up. You are responsible for your time, so take advantage of those things. Get approval, make sure your supervisor&#39;s okay with it, but take advantage of the flexibility that you have because the thing is this, healthy leaders lead healthy ministries, and we&#39;re going to talk about that in the very next episode, which is going to be up here on the screen talking about how to grow your youth ministry, which is one of the things that your boss wants, and probably you want not just for vanity metrics, but also because you want to make an impact on the kingdom of God. So as always, don&#39;t forget we&#39;re making digital discipleship easy, accessible and possible. Stay hybrid, my friend.</p>]]>
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<p>🕰️<strong>TIMECODES</strong><br>
00:00-02:21 Get More Done<br>
02:21-04:57 The 3 Core Tenets of Time Management<br>
04:57-07:15 Technique #1: Make a list<br>
07:15-08:48 Technique #2: Calendaring<br>
08:48-11:18 Technique #3: Make appointments with yourself<br>
11:18-13:06 Technique #4: Schedule your relationships<br>
13:06-15:25 Technique #5: Delegate, Automate or Eliminiate<br>
15:25-16:04 Avoid Sacrificing your Family on the Altar of Youth Ministry<br>
16:04-17:44 Hack 1: Evenings Count Double<br>
17:44-18:11 Hack 2: Take Advantage of Slower Seasons<br>
18:11-19:24 Hack 3: Take Advantage of your job&#39;s flexibility</p>

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<p>Nick Clason (00:01):<br>
Time management for youth pastors? Is it even possible? I mean, think about it. It&#39;s like you and I, I&#39;m a youth pastor too. We have multiple jobs. We have pastors, we have executive pastors, we have parents, we have stepparents, we have spouses, our own spouses, we have our children, we have our youth kids that we&#39;re trying to minister to. We have the youth leaders. It&#39;s like we&#39;re answering to so many different people. It can feel so confusing. Who do we try to make happy? Who do we try to cater to? And at the end of the day, how do we make sense of any of this? Because the reality is we have the most important job in the world. Think about it, a hundred years from now, no one&#39;s going to care what kind of whipped cream you bought at Walmart for the hot cocoa bar for the upcoming Christmas party, but a hundred years from now, what matters? </p>

<p>Nick Clason (00:50):<br>
What hangs in the balance is the lives and souls of these students, and you&#39;ve probably heard it before, 94% of born again Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18. I know that that stat alone is the reason why I do what I do. And in this episode we&#39;re going to talk about the pillars of time management, what you need to understand from kind of like a philosophical standpoint. Then we&#39;re going to chat through the Surefire framework, and then finally, I&#39;m going to give you three hacks to avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of your job. And here&#39;s why this is important and here&#39;s why I can even talk about this right now. I am currently offering a two-part video series to YM 360 once per month. I&#39;m writing a weekly teaching series for them. I&#39;m also doing weekly YouTube videos right here on this channel. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (01:39):<br>
I&#39;m posting two times daily on social media. I have my very own free ebook, which I&#39;m following that exact strategy for myself on this channel as well as in my student ministry. You can download a copy of that for free link in the show notes. I try to create a weekly game for download youth ministry, and by the way, I have a real job as a youth pastor as well. My boss asked me, do you just never sleep? Do you work all the weekends? How do you get it all done? The reality is I follow these techniques and I want to encourage you to subscribe because we are dropping. This is part one of the 2024 on-Demand Youth Pastor Masterclass, time management. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Okay, so there are three kind of core tenets, philosophical things that you actually to understand when it comes to time management. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (02:29):<br>
These aren&#39;t tips, these aren&#39;t tactics. These are things that you have to understand first and these have to inform the tips and the tactics. No amount of tips, no amount of tactics will be helpful to you if you don&#39;t understand these things. So core tenant number one is that you are 100% responsible for your time and again, like I said at the top, it may not feel that way. It may feel like you have multiple different bosses and that is true. The reality is you are going to be answering to different people and there are going to be times where they are going to dictate </p>

<p>Nick Clason (02:58):<br>
What do, but at the end of the day, your boss is not flushing out your 40, 45, 50, 55 hour a week schedule. He&#39;s just not or she&#39;s just not. You are responsible for your time 100%. So you understand that basis. You can then operate out of that. If you are waiting for someone to tell you what to do, then this time management thing is going to just be fleeting and you&#39;re not going to be able to get any of this stuff done because you&#39;re going to be playing the victim mentality as opposed to taking agency and control for your time. Core tenant number two is this is your overwhelmed. The reason that you may feel overwhelmed, have anxiety, not know what to do, be confused about which task to tackle. It comes from this. It comes from the fact that you have no direction. We&#39;re going to get to more about that in a second, but that lack of direction, you need direction. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (03:52):<br>
That direction is what helps give your brain clarity, focus and the ability to just crush tasks on what comes next and get things done. Number three, not all time is created equal. Here&#39;s an example. I&#39;m a morning person. You give me two hours in the morning from like 6:00 AM to 8:00 AM I can crush just about any youth sermon. It will be good, it will be coherent, it will make sense, but if you give me that same block of time from 3:00 PM to say 5:00 PM I&#39;m toast. I&#39;m not getting the same amount of work done. You need to know what your key hours are, the hours that you can get the most amount of optimal thinking time done so that you can knock things out. Now let&#39;s move on. If we understand those things that you&#39;re in charge of your time that you&#39;re overwhelmed comes from the fact that you may not have any direction. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (04:41):<br>
And then number three, not all time is created equal with those as the core tenants, with those as the philosophy. Let&#39;s build on that and let&#39;s get really practical, really hands-on and some things that you can implement in your time management skills in your workweek today. So technique number one is start with a list. I know it sounds basic and you&#39;re like, bro, we&#39;re on the hybrid ministry show. I thought you&#39;re going to give me some bougie next level digital tool. Sure, grab a list that&#39;s digital if that&#39;s what you want to do. That&#39;s what I do. I use Microsoft to do. I hate Microsoft. It used to be called Wonderlist and I use it because it has the ability to be shared. So my wife and I do our groceries on it, but then Microsoft took it over and I still use it, but it&#39;s a digital list. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (05:27):<br>
I can use it on my phone, I can use it on a computer. You can use anything. I mean you can use the notes app in your phone. You can use a Daytimer. You can write it down physically with paper, but make a list of everything you have to do and get specific. For example, if you say Plain Wednesday night, yes, you have to do that. You&#39;re a youth pastor, that&#39;s part of your job. But what goes into planning Wednesday night? That&#39;s not very specific because specifically you to write a lesson, you need to send the leader email. You need to schedule your tech team. You need to schedule your greeters, you need to plan the worship set. You need to play in the game. You need to set up chairs. You need to set up the cafe, make sure that the cafe is stocked. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (06:10):<br>
You need to make announcement slides. You need to post a social to remind people about Wednesday and to crush social, you should grab my 100% completely free ebook. It&#39;s right down here, link in the description, but nonetheless, you see that, right? You see how Wednesday night planning versus all this other stuff. You see how that is an example of a good to-do list versus a bad to-Do list. Again, if you&#39;re like, I know I need to get done with Wednesday, break it all apart. List down every single thing you need to do because you know this as well as I do that as a youth pastor, that&#39;s not your only job because in addition to planning Wednesday, maybe you have to plan Sunday and all the little elements that go within that, maybe you have to meet with a volunteer. You need to grab coffee with the student. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (06:55):<br>
You need to have a check-in with your senior pastor. You need to fill in the blank. You know what you have to do, and that&#39;s the problem. Not only do we have multiple different jobs, not only do we have multiple different kind of fighters that we might feel like we have to put out, but we also have multiple different focuses in our time. So get them all on paper. That&#39;s step one. Step two, calendar. If you are not using a calendar, and once again this is the hybrid ministry show, you got to figure out what works for you, but your calendar needs to dictate what you&#39;re doing not only beforehand, but also then you can look back and see how well am I keeping these things if I give myself or you give yourself one hour to craft your Wednesday night, but you have all those tasks to do and it takes you a full day, then you can go back next week and be like, all I&#39;m going to need more hours than one to get ready for Wednesday night. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (07:49):<br>
You can use your calendar to go back and audit how much time it actually takes. You don&#39;t shortchange yourself. And that&#39;s one of the keys. One of the reasons we get overwhelmed is we try and cram too many things into our calendar and it&#39;s just not humanly possible. So look ahead on your calendar, but also look back on your calendar and whatever you do integrate your work and your personal, it&#39;s one of the ways that you don&#39;t sacrifice your family on the altar of ministry. You don&#39;t have to have a calendar that&#39;s work and personal together. But when big major things that your personal and family calendar need to be aware of or vice versa, put those things in there, right? If you have a child&#39;s doctor appointment during the day, during the weekday when doctor&#39;s offices are only open, put it in there so that no one schedules a meeting with you. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (08:38):<br>
No one sees you&#39;re out of office, that you&#39;re not available, that you are available when you&#39;re really not. So make sure that those things talk and communicate with each other. The second, third thing, I&#39;m sorry, third thing, make appointments with yourself. A lot of times people calendar when there&#39;s an appointment. I have a meeting with my senior pastor that&#39;s on my calendar from nine to 10:00 AM Okay, well, when are you going to write your sermon? Well, just whenever I&#39;m not in that. If you get a notice or a text message from someone and they say, Hey, I want to meet with you, then you can say, Hey, I am available from this time to this time. Because what we often do is pull open our calendar and see a bunch of blank space and be like, I&#39;m free all day. What that&#39;s doing is when you&#39;re giving someone else control of your calendar, they&#39;re going to take whatever time works best for them as opposed to whatever time works best for you. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (09:30):<br>
And so if they take morning sometime between six and 8:00 AM let&#39;s say they go to work and they want that morning appointment, well, for me, that&#39;s going to eat into my prep time and I&#39;m not going to say no, I&#39;m not going to decline meeting with them, but I am going to drive and dictate and point to where I am most available. I like to do lunches because I can get my work done in the morning and then I have an opportunity for lunch. And if a person&#39;s only available for breakfast, then I might have one breakfast slot per week where I will allow someone into there as opposed to let that be prep time. But you can use things like calendly.com and you can give that to people for them to book times with you. And so as long as your calendar is up to date, you&#39;ve made appointments with other people and you&#39;ve made appointments with yourself, then now other people can slide into those things. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (10:22):<br>
It is okay to tell somebody no that you&#39;re not available to meet with them, not because you don&#39;t want to, but because you&#39;re busy, but because you&#39;ve made an appointment with yourself. And then as you&#39;re blocking out your calendar, you need to figure out what works best for you, but you need to leave either 60 to 70% margin unscheduled time, and you can block it. You can put it in a calendar, but you can call it margin. You can call it buffer, you can call it reach ahead time. You can call whatever you want to call it. But one of the reasons that we get stressed out is that we schedule ourselves with no margin at all. And so if plan Wednesday night is supposed to take six hours and it takes seven and it eats into the next task that&#39;s supposed to come after in the seventh hour, we start to get overwhelmed. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (11:12):<br>
But if we leave a little bit of space, we can leave some of that flex time. We can allow interruptions and we can allow people. Number four, make sure that you do in fact schedule your relationships. Don&#39;t just make your calendar, task, task test, test, test, test task, right? Relationships often are the things that feel like interruptions, but if you can account for them, if you have space for them, listen, here&#39;s the fact you&#39;re probably in youth ministry because you&#39;re a relational person. You probably prefer relationships over tasks. I&#39;m more of a task guy. I like prefer tasks over relationships. So you need to figure out your zone and what works for you. But for me, what works for me is I need to relationships. I need to grab lunch with leaders. All right? So a couple of times a week, I got lunch in there for leaders. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (11:58):<br>
I got lunch in there for students. I got space in there after school for students, whatever the case might be, but know where you&#39;re going to slide those things in. And again, if you leave that margin, then you can account for the interruptions. If you work on a little bit slightly bigger staff, I know I do. There&#39;ll be people, especially people I work with who pop into my office, have conversations. Those can feel frustrating and those can feel like interruptions. But the fact is, if I don&#39;t schedule my calendar my week at a hundred percent tasks, then when someone comes in, I can stop. I can pause, I can be present, I can get back to my tasks when that conversation&#39;s over and when they are ready to move on. So schedule time for those things. And like I said, a tool that you can use hybridize, this thing is Calendly. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (12:40):<br>
It is a great way, especially if you&#39;re like, Hey, I want to grab lunch with you here. Grab a slot here that works for you. Then you take all of that back and forth out like, what about Thursday at six? No, it doesn&#39;t work. How about Wednesday at two? No, no, I got appointment. Then you go back and forth, back and forth. You can just be like, Hey, want to grab lunch? Sure, here&#39;s what I have available. They book it, boom, you&#39;re done. And then they slide right in to your calendar. And then the fifth and final thing in this framework is I stole this from Michael Hyatt and he&#39;s the productivity king and guru, but delegate and automate every single thing that you can. He actually challenges you to delegate, automate, and then terminate. So is there anything in your to-do list that you can just be done doing altogether? </p>

<p>Nick Clason (13:30):<br>
Additionally, let&#39;s go back to our good example from earlier. Plan Wednesday night, write a lesson that might be a you and you only task, but every single thing else, check this out. Send the leader email. You could probably hand that off to a high level admin, maybe a volunteer, maybe even an intern. Schedule the tech team. Well, that should be the tech leader&#39;s job. If you don&#39;t have a tech leader, enlist a tech leader and then make that the tech leader&#39;s job. How about scheduling the greeters? Well let that be your greeter team lead&#39;s job and then planning the worship set. You can hand that off to a worship leader. If you don&#39;t have a paid worship leader, you can get a volunteer worship leader that you trust to plan the worship set maybe for a while they run it by you, but then you officially hand that off onto their plate planning the game. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (14:16):<br>
Well, you can hand that off to a high level student who you even want to host. You can let them grab games off of DYM, give them your password, and then boom, they&#39;re off and running. What about setting up chairs? Well, that can be your student work crew who comes in once a week and maybe you&#39;re giving your student work crew a discount on camp this summer to come in and set up chairs. How about setting up the cafe? You can hand that off to your admin, maybe a cafe. Volunteer team leader. What about making the announcement slides? Hand a student, your Canva Pro password, link to that right here at the top of the video and give them the keys to making your announcement slides. What about posting to social media to remind people about it? Give that job to your students and grab my free ebook so that you are not just posting announcements, but you&#39;re posting them in a fun, relevant and witty way. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (15:06):<br>
You see, that&#39;s the thing. You can delegate all of that. And so in that list, all you&#39;re doing is you are preparing the lesson, but all these other delegations, you have to set those up. They take time. It will take more time to set those up on the front side, but once it gets up and running, you will be a task master. Inevitably part of the job in youth ministry because it&#39;s relationships based and because we do our ministry when other people are not at work, when other people are not at school, you and I are going to have moments where youth ministry invades elements of being a dad, of being a family person of relationship with your wife. So how do you avoid sacrificing your family on the altar of ministry? Well, here&#39;s three principles and three ideas that I personally live by and that I try to implement in my ministry to help me. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (16:03):<br>
The first one is this is keep in mind that evenings count double. I remember one time a pastor was like, well, if you work on Wednesday night, just don&#39;t work Wednesday morning. And that&#39;s true, and I&#39;m going to give you that hack here in just a minute as well. However, a Wednesday morning time at home, which I record this podcast every single Wednesday morning, super early in the morning, as soon as I&#39;m done, I&#39;m going to go hang with my family, drive my kids to school, and then hang out with my wife and my youngest who&#39;s going to be home. But when I&#39;m not home tonight because of programming, they would rather me be home in the evening. I would rather me be home in the evening, evening hours, count, double. So use your evening hours that you inevitably have to use. You have to use evening hours, but use them sparingly and don&#39;t be so quick to give them up. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (16:51):<br>
Be very, very measured in your evening hours. One of the rules of life that me and my wife stumbled into haphazardly because we were giving up way too many evening hours early on in our marriage, was no more than three evenings out per week. We like to be home. You figure out what works best for you, but there&#39;s seven nights a week. We can be out three. The other four, we want to be home more than we&#39;re out. And that includes youth ministry that included our own personal grow group together as a couple. And then one other thing. And so if someone would ask us like, Hey, do you guys want to get together? We would look at our calendar and for like, well, we&#39;re already full this week. We would kick &#39;em to the next week or something like that, but we knew our limit. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (17:35):<br>
So know your limit. If you&#39;re out every single evening and you&#39;re just trying to make up for that by being home in the morning, just remember that those count double. The second thing is this, take advantage of slower seasons. Okay? The fact is, Christmas season may be a busy hefty season for your church, especially your worship team, your tech team, your worship leaders, people setting up the stage. But for student ministry, it&#39;s often a little slower. So take advantage of that because the reality is those people are not going to be at summer camp, come June when you are and you&#39;re away from your family. And so budget for those things and lean into the different rhythms of life. And the third thing is take advantage of the fact that your job has flexibility. You might have work from home capabilities. I know I try to work from home a lot of Thursdays, which is a nice thing that I get to do or I can even do when my kids are at school lunch or breakfast dates with my wife. </p>

<p>Nick Clason (18:27):<br>
It&#39;s cheaper. Don&#39;t have to pay for a babysitter, don&#39;t have to bring our kids with us. And also, I can comp my Wednesday mornings because I&#39;m going to be working late on Wednesday night, or I might comp a Thursday morning if I work a full day, like a full 12 hour day on Wednesday because of programming. I may come in a little bit late on Thursday. And the fact is, you can make some of those things up. You are responsible for your time, so take advantage of those things. Get approval, make sure your supervisor&#39;s okay with it, but take advantage of the flexibility that you have because the thing is this, healthy leaders lead healthy ministries, and we&#39;re going to talk about that in the very next episode, which is going to be up here on the screen talking about how to grow your youth ministry, which is one of the things that your boss wants, and probably you want not just for vanity metrics, but also because you want to make an impact on the kingdom of God. So as always, don&#39;t forget we&#39;re making digital discipleship easy, accessible and possible. Stay hybrid, my friend.</p>]]>
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