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02:29 Mistake #1
05:37 Mistake #2
08:57 Mistake #3
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Six months into leading this
00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00
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team, I realized
00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22
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something uncomfortable.
00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29
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You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you're good at leading people.
00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27
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In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I've made in my first
00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21
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six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.
00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.
00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that's actually happened in my life.
00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27
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And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let's be honest. There's always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.
00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25
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And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn't feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.
00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06
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Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you're our number one choice. You're our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.
00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12
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And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn't be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.
00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03
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Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I've learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let's dive in to the first leadership mistake.
00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27
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So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here's what I thought. I thought I'm the boss. I'm the supervisor. I'm the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.
00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11
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But here's what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don't get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.
00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26
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But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn't that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.
00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.
00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02
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We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.
00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15
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And I'm not a big meeting guy like I don't, I don't mind them, but they don't bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I've learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.
00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03
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And so the advice I would give if you've never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I'm not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I've learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.
00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02
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Especially when you're in a situation like I'm in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don't get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.
00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12
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The choice is yours. But that's one of the things I've had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can't communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.
00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But what I've learned is that people can't actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I've said words doesn't mean that they're understanding it. The exact same way that I'm thinking that they're understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.
00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09
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You can check out the link down below if you're interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren't enough.
00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03
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Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there's more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here's why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.
00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13
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Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn't think it was that big of a deal, or they didn't listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.
00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10
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Or when I said, hey, let's get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that's just not going to cut it. It's not fast enough.
00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there's a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn't keeping up.
00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07
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What I've learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I've communicated 100% of it, I've maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He's, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.
00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01
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And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I'd write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.
00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09
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So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an Enneagram one. Don't expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.
00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here's what I thought. I thought, I'm going to step into this new role, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. And while I'm doing what I'm doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.
00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who's in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we're, pulling together in our student ministry.
00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04
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And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I'm doing here is managing these people. They're the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.
00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06
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And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.
00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20
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He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.
00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05
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And when they're having a tough time getting across the finish line, they're having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn't. I was feeling like I wasn't successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.
00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don't mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don't get to do as much.
00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here's the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It's a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.
00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'd love for you to take a look at it. There's a seven day free trial link down below. It's called Hybrid Heroes. It's part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.
00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17
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It costs money to other people, but it's free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It's $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't have enough money for that.
00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11
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Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that's what I did. And I'm just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.
00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18
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I've been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn't happen when you're coasting, right? And no matter what you're doing and no matter what area you're growing in and learning in, whether it's growing in management skills like I am or whether it's trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?
00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04
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But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don't forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid. 
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Six months into leading this</p>

<p>00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
team, I realized</p>

<p>00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
something uncomfortable.</p>

<p>00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you&#39;re good at leading people.</p>

<p>00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I&#39;ve made in my first</p>

<p>00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.</p>

<p>00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.</p>

<p>00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that&#39;s actually happened in my life.</p>

<p>00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let&#39;s be honest. There&#39;s always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.</p>

<p>00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn&#39;t feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.</p>

<p>00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you&#39;re our number one choice. You&#39;re our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.</p>

<p>00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn&#39;t be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.</p>

<p>00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I&#39;ve learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let&#39;s dive in to the first leadership mistake.</p>

<p>00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here&#39;s what I thought. I thought I&#39;m the boss. I&#39;m the supervisor. I&#39;m the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.</p>

<p>00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don&#39;t get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.</p>

<p>00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn&#39;t that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.</p>

<p>00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.</p>

<p>00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.</p>

<p>00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;m not a big meeting guy like I don&#39;t, I don&#39;t mind them, but they don&#39;t bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I&#39;ve learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.</p>

<p>00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so the advice I would give if you&#39;ve never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I&#39;m not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I&#39;ve learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.</p>

<p>00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Especially when you&#39;re in a situation like I&#39;m in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don&#39;t get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.</p>

<p>00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
The choice is yours. But that&#39;s one of the things I&#39;ve had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can&#39;t communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.</p>

<p>00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But what I&#39;ve learned is that people can&#39;t actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I&#39;ve said words doesn&#39;t mean that they&#39;re understanding it. The exact same way that I&#39;m thinking that they&#39;re understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.</p>

<p>00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can check out the link down below if you&#39;re interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren&#39;t enough.</p>

<p>00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there&#39;s more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here&#39;s why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.</p>

<p>00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn&#39;t think it was that big of a deal, or they didn&#39;t listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.</p>

<p>00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, let&#39;s get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that&#39;s just not going to cut it. It&#39;s not fast enough.</p>

<p>00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And there&#39;s a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn&#39;t keeping up.</p>

<p>00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I&#39;ve communicated 100% of it, I&#39;ve maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He&#39;s, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.</p>

<p>00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I&#39;d write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.</p>

<p>00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I&#39;m a perfectionist. I&#39;m an Enneagram one. Don&#39;t expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s what I thought. I thought, I&#39;m going to step into this new role, and I&#39;m just going to keep doing what I&#39;m doing. And while I&#39;m doing what I&#39;m doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.</p>

<p>00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who&#39;s in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we&#39;re, pulling together in our student ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I&#39;m doing here is managing these people. They&#39;re the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.</p>

<p>00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.</p>

<p>00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.</p>

<p>00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And when they&#39;re having a tough time getting across the finish line, they&#39;re having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn&#39;t. I was feeling like I wasn&#39;t successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.</p>

<p>00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I&#39;m just going to sit here and I&#39;m just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don&#39;t mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don&#39;t get to do as much.</p>

<p>00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here&#39;s the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It&#39;s a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.</p>

<p>00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;d love for you to take a look at it. There&#39;s a seven day free trial link down below. It&#39;s called Hybrid Heroes. It&#39;s part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.</p>

<p>00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
It costs money to other people, but it&#39;s free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It&#39;s $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don&#39;t feel comfortable doing that. I don&#39;t have enough money for that.</p>

<p>00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that&#39;s what I did. And I&#39;m just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.</p>

<p>00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;ve been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn&#39;t happen when you&#39;re coasting, right? And no matter what you&#39;re doing and no matter what area you&#39;re growing in and learning in, whether it&#39;s growing in management skills like I am or whether it&#39;s trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?</p>

<p>00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don&#39;t forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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08:57 Mistake #3</p>

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<strong>TRANSCRIPT</strong><br>
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;02;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Six months into leading this</p>

<p>00;00;02;02 - 00;00;04;00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
team, I realized</p>

<p>00;00;04;02 - 00;00;05;22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
something uncomfortable.</p>

<p>00;00;05;25 - 00;00;11;29<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you&#39;re good at leading people.</p>

<p>00;00;12;03 - 00;00;15;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I&#39;ve made in my first</p>

<p>00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.</p>

<p>00;00;23;23 - 00;00;27;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.</p>

<p>00;00;27;07 - 00;00;43;19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that&#39;s actually happened in my life.</p>

<p>00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let&#39;s be honest. There&#39;s always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.</p>

<p>00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn&#39;t feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.</p>

<p>00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you&#39;re our number one choice. You&#39;re our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.</p>

<p>00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn&#39;t be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.</p>

<p>00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I&#39;ve learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let&#39;s dive in to the first leadership mistake.</p>

<p>00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here&#39;s what I thought. I thought I&#39;m the boss. I&#39;m the supervisor. I&#39;m the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.</p>

<p>00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don&#39;t get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.</p>

<p>00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn&#39;t that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.</p>

<p>00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.</p>

<p>00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.</p>

<p>00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;m not a big meeting guy like I don&#39;t, I don&#39;t mind them, but they don&#39;t bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I&#39;ve learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.</p>

<p>00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so the advice I would give if you&#39;ve never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I&#39;m not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I&#39;ve learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.</p>

<p>00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Especially when you&#39;re in a situation like I&#39;m in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don&#39;t get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.</p>

<p>00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
The choice is yours. But that&#39;s one of the things I&#39;ve had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can&#39;t communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.</p>

<p>00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But what I&#39;ve learned is that people can&#39;t actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I&#39;ve said words doesn&#39;t mean that they&#39;re understanding it. The exact same way that I&#39;m thinking that they&#39;re understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.</p>

<p>00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You can check out the link down below if you&#39;re interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren&#39;t enough.</p>

<p>00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there&#39;s more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here&#39;s why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.</p>

<p>00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn&#39;t think it was that big of a deal, or they didn&#39;t listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.</p>

<p>00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Or when I said, hey, let&#39;s get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that&#39;s just not going to cut it. It&#39;s not fast enough.</p>

<p>00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And there&#39;s a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn&#39;t keeping up.</p>

<p>00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I&#39;ve communicated 100% of it, I&#39;ve maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He&#39;s, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.</p>

<p>00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I&#39;d write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.</p>

<p>00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I&#39;m a perfectionist. I&#39;m an Enneagram one. Don&#39;t expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s what I thought. I thought, I&#39;m going to step into this new role, and I&#39;m just going to keep doing what I&#39;m doing. And while I&#39;m doing what I&#39;m doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.</p>

<p>00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who&#39;s in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we&#39;re, pulling together in our student ministry.</p>

<p>00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I&#39;m doing here is managing these people. They&#39;re the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.</p>

<p>00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.</p>

<p>00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.</p>

<p>00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And when they&#39;re having a tough time getting across the finish line, they&#39;re having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn&#39;t. I was feeling like I wasn&#39;t successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.</p>

<p>00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I&#39;m just going to sit here and I&#39;m just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don&#39;t mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don&#39;t get to do as much.</p>

<p>00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here&#39;s the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It&#39;s a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.</p>

<p>00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;d love for you to take a look at it. There&#39;s a seven day free trial link down below. It&#39;s called Hybrid Heroes. It&#39;s part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.</p>

<p>00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
It costs money to other people, but it&#39;s free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It&#39;s $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don&#39;t feel comfortable doing that. I don&#39;t have enough money for that.</p>

<p>00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that&#39;s what I did. And I&#39;m just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.</p>

<p>00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I&#39;ve been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn&#39;t happen when you&#39;re coasting, right? And no matter what you&#39;re doing and no matter what area you&#39;re growing in and learning in, whether it&#39;s growing in management skills like I am or whether it&#39;s trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?</p>

<p>00;13;20;18 - 00;13;32;04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don&#39;t forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Podcast, I share how our youth group doubled in just 3 years using simple hybrid ministry strategies that any youth pastor can apply. You’ll learn practical tips for increasing youth group attendance, retaining volunteers, engaging parents, and building a student ministry that makes more and better disciples of Jesus. Whether you’re leading a small church youth group or looking for big youth ministry ideas on a budget, these proven hybrid ministry strategies for youth pastors will help your ministry grow.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Podcast, I share how our youth group doubled in just 3 years using simple hybrid ministry strategies that any youth pastor can apply. You’ll learn practical tips for increasing youth group attendance, retaining volunteers, engaging parents, and building a student ministry that makes more and better disciples of Jesus. Whether you’re leading a small church youth group or looking for big youth ministry ideas on a budget, these proven hybrid ministry strategies for youth pastors will help your ministry grow.
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I posted this way and
00:00:01:23 - 00:00:03:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
this often for the last
00:00:03:06 - 00:00:04:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
three years. And here's
00:00:04:13 - 00:00:34:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
what happened on YouTube alone. We've had over 6000 views, 4000 plus hours of watch time, and over 900 subscribers. That's awesome success online. However, it doesn't just stop there. We've experienced 100.6% growth in our youth ministry in that exact same amount of time while we've been posting like, okay, here's a good news I am real life boots on the ground youth pastor.
00:00:34:01 - 00:01:02:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I also have to do things just like you like write a message, recruit volunteers, meet with my senior pastor as well as dream up, create, and post on social media regularly. Now if you do this, I will say that you'll experience 100.6% growth. But there are many additional benefits to this strategy. Things like attendance obviously being one of them.
00:01:02:22 - 00:01:23:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But you'll also see an uptick in student ministry volunteers, an uptick in your parent ministry. It can increase your leader, retention, and you'll have the ability to lean into your true calling as a pastor, where you get the opportunity to equip the saints for the works and acts of service, which actually we talked about in my last video linked right here.
00:01:23:18 - 00:01:44:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here's the thing. I can help you do it. I have three different tiers of help available. Like if you're on the intern budget, I can give you completely free rundown version. If you're on the youth pastor budget for less than $6 a month, I have an option for you there as well. Or if you have the Senior Pastor Cadillac option, I'll do it for you.
00:01:44:08 - 00:02:08:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is where the parent and the leader piece really comes into play in that final option. Don't forget there are some chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of this episode that makes the most sense to you. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I've been on staff here at this church exactly three years and in the exact same amount of time.
00:02:08:23 - 00:02:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Just like I said in the intro, we've been posting with this rhythm. In fact, when we started, we were posting all of our long form messages to YouTube and we were doing so with just a cell phone camera. In fact, as soon as I moved here, I bought the brand new Google Pixel nine Plus Pro so that I could use it for social media and for its its camera purposes.
00:02:31:15 - 00:02:59:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They were telling me at the time that it was the best phone on the market, and so we were using it. And that was our that was our primary avenue. Bought a couple of different like microphone options to pair with the camera. And that was it. That's all we had and that's all we used. And so we would post not only long form YouTube messages, but also all of our short form content, which, speaking of short form content, we were posting three times per day on social media.
00:02:59:03 - 00:03:34:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
My goal at the time was aggressive growth, and I had just moved here from Chicago. And I had just, you know, for the previous about six months or so, been kind of dabbling in the tick tock Instagram Reels realm and was learning that three times a day was aggressive. But it also, you had more bites at the apple for an opportunity to be seen, you know, at the time, the kind of go on on those platforms TikTok, Instagram Reels, YouTube shorts was get as many bites at the apple so that you have more chances to be discovered, to be seen, and then to go viral.
00:03:35:00 - 00:03:54:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This my strategy has since shifted a little bit. And, you know, of course we'll get into that. But then we were filming any of these pieces of content just in and around our space. So in offices or in like the lobby or like even just main on the street, like anywhere we found any of our other, like, staff.
00:03:54:21 - 00:04:18:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But eventually we built a full studio, which is actually the room I am sitting in right now. And over time, we've progressively spent more on gear and on set design and budget for it. But to start, it was a pretty basic studio build. We spent a little bit on paint and, you know, some wall treatment type options and some tchotchkes for shelves.
00:04:18:19 - 00:04:38:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that was it. I will actually post full, tour studio link down below if you're interested in that, along with much of the gear that we use for that. But I would say one of the key shifts was once we had our studio built out, I had a resident shout out to my good friend Caleb Flywheel.
00:04:38:00 - 00:05:01:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Maita, who had this idea, because we were posting long form pieces of content, for all of our messages on YouTube. So that was myself and any, anyone else on staff that was, that was delivering a message that was being posted to YouTube. He wanted to see more students in long form on YouTube. So he created this idea this weekly social challenge.
00:05:01:23 - 00:05:22:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He would film it on Wednesday night, in long form, in horizontal mode, and then he would edit all day Thursday and post a social challenge by the end of the day Thursday. It was a great idea. It's a great concept, but it was cooking his Thursdays like he never got anything else done except for just working on, you know, social challenge stuff.
00:05:22:20 - 00:05:41:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we eventually, adapted and shifted that strategy to be where we captured the majority and the lion's share of our student based short form content. We would do it in the studio any single time that we met on Wednesday nights. And I've detailed an outline that in previous episodes. So make sure that you subscribe and go back and listen to some of those.
00:05:41:12 - 00:05:59:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the thing that you might be thinking as you hear this, you might be thinking, this sounds both overwhelming and hard, and I just want to let you know that I have, recently yesterday, a guy on my team came to me and he said, I am over budgeting my time. And as a what do you mean by that?
00:05:59:04 - 00:06:20:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He said, I'm giving myself like two hour blocks of time and it's not taking quite that long. And right now he is owning the majority of our social media content. I've shifted into a little bit of a new role. I've given him a lot more to do with with editing and posting and what he is saying in his own words, and I would I would echo this to be true.
00:06:20:01 - 00:06:38:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What I've learned is once you learn how to use some of these platforms and some of these programs, it's not as time consuming as you might think it is. The learning curve on the front side might feel steep, but once you get up over that hump, the actual maintenance mode of some of these things isn't as difficult as you think.
00:06:38:17 - 00:06:58:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as I as I outlined in my last episode, you can hand over as much of that as you feel comfortable to your students. So let me share with you the three different tiers of options and solutions I have that you can lean into this hybrid strategy, which for us gave us two growth in a three year period of time.
00:06:58:12 - 00:07:25:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's chat. Let's check it out okay, so you have the intern budget. How do you get started? Well, I would recommend hopping down in the description to grab my 100% completely free e-book. In my original iteration, you heard me say, if you're listening to the contact section of this that I posted three times per day, I've scaled that back, but it's still two times per day, which is still an aggressive growth strategy and mindset.
00:07:25:09 - 00:08:00:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I'll just be honest, one of the main reasons that I post that aggressively is because we film enough content that I have enough things to keep my feed going and being posted, but it's a lot of students and it's a lot of leaders, and so a lot of custom content for our student ministry. But I even recommend now, and I've done it and I've seen it in some coaching relationships that I've had that if you post three times a week, if you're starting completely from scratch, it's still a good strategy to lean into from a hybrid ministry standpoint.
00:08:00:08 - 00:08:21:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so link down below is my 100% completely free e-book. And if you want the start from scratch version, if you want the hey only post three times per week, then I recommend this next one, which is the youth pastor budget. And I can get this all for you via my Patreon account and my four seasonal social media pack.
00:08:21:23 - 00:08:39:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall.
00:08:39:03 - 00:09:02:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's why I created this, the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here's the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.
00:09:02:11 - 00:09:22:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And did you know that monthly hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.
00:09:22:20 - 00:09:44:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So as you just heard, the fall season of Social Media Pack is here. Go grab it. Go download it. It is the youth pastor version of this budget 1799.
00:09:45:03 - 00:10:07:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, in and on top of that, if you head over to my Patreon and you become a $4 a month member, you will not only receive that pack for free as a part of that membership, but you'll also then be subscribed to a weekly bonus podcast where I sit down on a microphone every single week and I explain and I outline and I flesh out all that we did.
00:10:07:16 - 00:10:32:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I basically go through our service order, and I talk about one things we could have done to be more creative and things that hit really well, and what we're doing on social media and how we're capturing certain things and all these different things. And so if you pair my bonus podcast with the social media pack, which again, reminder is free if you're a hybrid hero member, all of those things can be used to your advantage.
00:10:32:23 - 00:10:58:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
To get you started in this track of hybrid ministry. Listen, it's not here to help me get rich. It's really just here to help resource you and give you the foundation and the building blocks for what it takes to really, truly lean into a hybrid strategy, which again, as a reminder to our growth in the course of a three year period of time.
00:10:58:11 - 00:11:21:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, in both of those options, they're going to talk to you a lot about the value of your social media platforms. However, the real ultimate goal, I would say, is to find a way to post your weekly messages to YouTube. Now, if you have live streaming capabilities or at least live captioning capabilities, then that's a fantastic strategy. It gets the job done.
00:11:21:22 - 00:11:43:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We, both prefer. And also due to the constraints of not having, you know, camera capabilities in our main meeting room, we film our messages very similar to this direct to camera. We'll use a teleprompter at times and we will post those directly to YouTube. And at this point now we've built up our budget in order to be able to pay for editors to do that.
00:11:43:02 - 00:12:13:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in the very early iterations, I was the editor. And you can use something like, you know, Adobe Premiere Pro Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve, or even something like Cap Cut to get the job done. But once you get a long form, like, posted version to YouTube, this is the senior pastor budget. If you need an editor or if you need someone to do it for you, I can either offer coaching, which is like a, an agreement for a set of time or I can do it for you in my communications.
00:12:13:21 - 00:12:30:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Done for you pack in my free time. Off to the side of me being a real life youth pastor, getting those long form clips is really helpful because then you can use an AI service like Opus Stock Pro to clip them up for you. They're not as good as if a human does them. But again, you're busy.
00:12:30:16 - 00:12:46:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You got things going on and, open Stop Pro is a really reasonable rate to kind of offer to do that. And it really does help flesh out and fill out your strategy, because if your strategy's all bunch of fun and games that you're doing with your students, that's great. Hopefully that's going to hook some viewers in your audience.
00:12:46:06 - 00:13:22:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But then you also want to win, or at least, have the algorithm feed them some of your spiritual content as well. And that's where this really comes into play. And you can add the Patreon pack right on top of what this is, where, like, I'll be doing this for you. You can add in that Patreon pack, which will help help give you the, the coaching and the framework and the resources to hand this off to someone if you don't want to go all into this senior pastor budget option, if you just need to stick with your main youth ministry budget, here's what I would recommend.
00:13:22:05 - 00:13:47:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Of all of these things, lean in to the youth ministry budget option because it is $4 a month for the Hybrid Heroes bonus podcast tier, and that nets out to only $48 a year. Four times per year. You're going to get the social pack for free included in your membership. So for $48, you will have a fully locked and loaded social media hybrid strategy.
00:13:47:02 - 00:14:11:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And just as a reminder, that strategy is what led us to to growth in our student ministry. Now, once you start filming and posting your long form, messages to YouTube, that's really where you can start to see the parent rewards and the leader rewards and all of this, as I teased at the beginning, because you're posting your messages to YouTube and so parents can go watch it and see what their kids are learning.
00:14:11:08 - 00:14:36:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's a great tool and resource in that regard. And also, leaders like we teach our message on Wednesday, but we also post the film YouTube adaptation to it as well. And so far, our leaders who lead a discussion based off the topic on Sunday morning, they have access to that teaching as well. And both of those are ways in which we've both, found incredible amounts of, like, help and resources to both our parents and our leaders.
00:14:36:11 - 00:15:00:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not no matter which of those options you choose. I want you to know this going hybrid is not the end goal. You know this. The end goal is to make more and better disciples of Jesus. Whatever your mission statement is, I hope it's rooted and tied to the great commission of Jesus. And this hybrid strategy is simply a strategy that sits inside this great commission from Jesus.
00:15:00:06 - 00:15:12:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so keep doing great youth ministry. Keep doing what you're doing, and if this can help you, I hope that it does. And I want you to know I'm rooting for you. So don't forget my friends. And as always, stay hybrid. 
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I posted this way and</p>

<p>00:00:01:23 - 00:00:03:06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
this often for the last</p>

<p>00:00:03:06 - 00:00:04:13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
three years. And here&#39;s</p>

<p>00:00:04:13 - 00:00:34:01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
what happened on YouTube alone. We&#39;ve had over 6000 views, 4000 plus hours of watch time, and over 900 subscribers. That&#39;s awesome success online. However, it doesn&#39;t just stop there. We&#39;ve experienced 100.6% growth in our youth ministry in that exact same amount of time while we&#39;ve been posting like, okay, here&#39;s a good news I am real life boots on the ground youth pastor.</p>

<p>00:00:34:01 - 00:01:02:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I also have to do things just like you like write a message, recruit volunteers, meet with my senior pastor as well as dream up, create, and post on social media regularly. Now if you do this, I will say that you&#39;ll experience 100.6% growth. But there are many additional benefits to this strategy. Things like attendance obviously being one of them.</p>

<p>00:01:02:22 - 00:01:23:16<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But you&#39;ll also see an uptick in student ministry volunteers, an uptick in your parent ministry. It can increase your leader, retention, and you&#39;ll have the ability to lean into your true calling as a pastor, where you get the opportunity to equip the saints for the works and acts of service, which actually we talked about in my last video linked right here.</p>

<p>00:01:23:18 - 00:01:44:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s the thing. I can help you do it. I have three different tiers of help available. Like if you&#39;re on the intern budget, I can give you completely free rundown version. If you&#39;re on the youth pastor budget for less than $6 a month, I have an option for you there as well. Or if you have the Senior Pastor Cadillac option, I&#39;ll do it for you.</p>

<p>00:01:44:08 - 00:02:08:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
This is where the parent and the leader piece really comes into play in that final option. Don&#39;t forget there are some chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of this episode that makes the most sense to you. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I&#39;ve been on staff here at this church exactly three years and in the exact same amount of time.</p>

<p>00:02:08:23 - 00:02:31:15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Just like I said in the intro, we&#39;ve been posting with this rhythm. In fact, when we started, we were posting all of our long form messages to YouTube and we were doing so with just a cell phone camera. In fact, as soon as I moved here, I bought the brand new Google Pixel nine Plus Pro so that I could use it for social media and for its its camera purposes.</p>

<p>00:02:31:15 - 00:02:59:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
They were telling me at the time that it was the best phone on the market, and so we were using it. And that was our that was our primary avenue. Bought a couple of different like microphone options to pair with the camera. And that was it. That&#39;s all we had and that&#39;s all we used. And so we would post not only long form YouTube messages, but also all of our short form content, which, speaking of short form content, we were posting three times per day on social media.</p>

<p>00:02:59:03 - 00:03:34:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
My goal at the time was aggressive growth, and I had just moved here from Chicago. And I had just, you know, for the previous about six months or so, been kind of dabbling in the tick tock Instagram Reels realm and was learning that three times a day was aggressive. But it also, you had more bites at the apple for an opportunity to be seen, you know, at the time, the kind of go on on those platforms TikTok, Instagram Reels, YouTube shorts was get as many bites at the apple so that you have more chances to be discovered, to be seen, and then to go viral.</p>

<p>00:03:35:00 - 00:03:54:19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
This my strategy has since shifted a little bit. And, you know, of course we&#39;ll get into that. But then we were filming any of these pieces of content just in and around our space. So in offices or in like the lobby or like even just main on the street, like anywhere we found any of our other, like, staff.</p>

<p>00:03:54:21 - 00:04:18:19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But eventually we built a full studio, which is actually the room I am sitting in right now. And over time, we&#39;ve progressively spent more on gear and on set design and budget for it. But to start, it was a pretty basic studio build. We spent a little bit on paint and, you know, some wall treatment type options and some tchotchkes for shelves.</p>

<p>00:04:18:19 - 00:04:38:00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And that was it. I will actually post full, tour studio link down below if you&#39;re interested in that, along with much of the gear that we use for that. But I would say one of the key shifts was once we had our studio built out, I had a resident shout out to my good friend Caleb Flywheel.</p>

<p>00:04:38:00 - 00:05:01:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Maita, who had this idea, because we were posting long form pieces of content, for all of our messages on YouTube. So that was myself and any, anyone else on staff that was, that was delivering a message that was being posted to YouTube. He wanted to see more students in long form on YouTube. So he created this idea this weekly social challenge.</p>

<p>00:05:01:23 - 00:05:22:18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He would film it on Wednesday night, in long form, in horizontal mode, and then he would edit all day Thursday and post a social challenge by the end of the day Thursday. It was a great idea. It&#39;s a great concept, but it was cooking his Thursdays like he never got anything else done except for just working on, you know, social challenge stuff.</p>

<p>00:05:22:20 - 00:05:41:10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so we eventually, adapted and shifted that strategy to be where we captured the majority and the lion&#39;s share of our student based short form content. We would do it in the studio any single time that we met on Wednesday nights. And I&#39;ve detailed an outline that in previous episodes. So make sure that you subscribe and go back and listen to some of those.</p>

<p>00:05:41:12 - 00:05:59:04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s the thing that you might be thinking as you hear this, you might be thinking, this sounds both overwhelming and hard, and I just want to let you know that I have, recently yesterday, a guy on my team came to me and he said, I am over budgeting my time. And as a what do you mean by that?</p>

<p>00:05:59:04 - 00:06:20:00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He said, I&#39;m giving myself like two hour blocks of time and it&#39;s not taking quite that long. And right now he is owning the majority of our social media content. I&#39;ve shifted into a little bit of a new role. I&#39;ve given him a lot more to do with with editing and posting and what he is saying in his own words, and I would I would echo this to be true.</p>

<p>00:06:20:01 - 00:06:38:17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is once you learn how to use some of these platforms and some of these programs, it&#39;s not as time consuming as you might think it is. The learning curve on the front side might feel steep, but once you get up over that hump, the actual maintenance mode of some of these things isn&#39;t as difficult as you think.</p>

<p>00:06:38:17 - 00:06:58:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And as I as I outlined in my last episode, you can hand over as much of that as you feel comfortable to your students. So let me share with you the three different tiers of options and solutions I have that you can lean into this hybrid strategy, which for us gave us two growth in a three year period of time.</p>

<p>00:06:58:12 - 00:07:25:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Let&#39;s chat. Let&#39;s check it out okay, so you have the intern budget. How do you get started? Well, I would recommend hopping down in the description to grab my 100% completely free e-book. In my original iteration, you heard me say, if you&#39;re listening to the contact section of this that I posted three times per day, I&#39;ve scaled that back, but it&#39;s still two times per day, which is still an aggressive growth strategy and mindset.</p>

<p>00:07:25:09 - 00:08:00:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;ll just be honest, one of the main reasons that I post that aggressively is because we film enough content that I have enough things to keep my feed going and being posted, but it&#39;s a lot of students and it&#39;s a lot of leaders, and so a lot of custom content for our student ministry. But I even recommend now, and I&#39;ve done it and I&#39;ve seen it in some coaching relationships that I&#39;ve had that if you post three times a week, if you&#39;re starting completely from scratch, it&#39;s still a good strategy to lean into from a hybrid ministry standpoint.</p>

<p>00:08:00:08 - 00:08:21:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so link down below is my 100% completely free e-book. And if you want the start from scratch version, if you want the hey only post three times per week, then I recommend this next one, which is the youth pastor budget. And I can get this all for you via my Patreon account and my four seasonal social media pack.</p>

<p>00:08:21:23 - 00:08:39:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that&#39;s a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn&#39;t updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don&#39;t need that kind of stress this fall.</p>

<p>00:08:39:03 - 00:09:02:09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
That&#39;s why I created this, the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here&#39;s the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.</p>

<p>00:09:02:11 - 00:09:22:18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And did you know that monthly hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it&#39;s only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.</p>

<p>00:09:22:20 - 00:09:44:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So as you just heard, the fall season of Social Media Pack is here. Go grab it. Go download it. It is the youth pastor version of this budget 1799.</p>

<p>00:09:45:03 - 00:10:07:16<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
However, in and on top of that, if you head over to my Patreon and you become a $4 a month member, you will not only receive that pack for free as a part of that membership, but you&#39;ll also then be subscribed to a weekly bonus podcast where I sit down on a microphone every single week and I explain and I outline and I flesh out all that we did.</p>

<p>00:10:07:16 - 00:10:32:21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I basically go through our service order, and I talk about one things we could have done to be more creative and things that hit really well, and what we&#39;re doing on social media and how we&#39;re capturing certain things and all these different things. And so if you pair my bonus podcast with the social media pack, which again, reminder is free if you&#39;re a hybrid hero member, all of those things can be used to your advantage.</p>

<p>00:10:32:23 - 00:10:58:09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
To get you started in this track of hybrid ministry. Listen, it&#39;s not here to help me get rich. It&#39;s really just here to help resource you and give you the foundation and the building blocks for what it takes to really, truly lean into a hybrid strategy, which again, as a reminder to our growth in the course of a three year period of time.</p>

<p>00:10:58:11 - 00:11:21:20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Now, in both of those options, they&#39;re going to talk to you a lot about the value of your social media platforms. However, the real ultimate goal, I would say, is to find a way to post your weekly messages to YouTube. Now, if you have live streaming capabilities or at least live captioning capabilities, then that&#39;s a fantastic strategy. It gets the job done.</p>

<p>00:11:21:22 - 00:11:43:02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We, both prefer. And also due to the constraints of not having, you know, camera capabilities in our main meeting room, we film our messages very similar to this direct to camera. We&#39;ll use a teleprompter at times and we will post those directly to YouTube. And at this point now we&#39;ve built up our budget in order to be able to pay for editors to do that.</p>

<p>00:11:43:02 - 00:12:13:21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But in the very early iterations, I was the editor. And you can use something like, you know, Adobe Premiere Pro Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve, or even something like Cap Cut to get the job done. But once you get a long form, like, posted version to YouTube, this is the senior pastor budget. If you need an editor or if you need someone to do it for you, I can either offer coaching, which is like a, an agreement for a set of time or I can do it for you in my communications.</p>

<p>00:12:13:21 - 00:12:30:12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Done for you pack in my free time. Off to the side of me being a real life youth pastor, getting those long form clips is really helpful because then you can use an AI service like Opus Stock Pro to clip them up for you. They&#39;re not as good as if a human does them. But again, you&#39;re busy.</p>

<p>00:12:30:16 - 00:12:46:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You got things going on and, open Stop Pro is a really reasonable rate to kind of offer to do that. And it really does help flesh out and fill out your strategy, because if your strategy&#39;s all bunch of fun and games that you&#39;re doing with your students, that&#39;s great. Hopefully that&#39;s going to hook some viewers in your audience.</p>

<p>00:12:46:06 - 00:13:22:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But then you also want to win, or at least, have the algorithm feed them some of your spiritual content as well. And that&#39;s where this really comes into play. And you can add the Patreon pack right on top of what this is, where, like, I&#39;ll be doing this for you. You can add in that Patreon pack, which will help help give you the, the coaching and the framework and the resources to hand this off to someone if you don&#39;t want to go all into this senior pastor budget option, if you just need to stick with your main youth ministry budget, here&#39;s what I would recommend.</p>

<p>00:13:22:05 - 00:13:47:02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Of all of these things, lean in to the youth ministry budget option because it is $4 a month for the Hybrid Heroes bonus podcast tier, and that nets out to only $48 a year. Four times per year. You&#39;re going to get the social pack for free included in your membership. So for $48, you will have a fully locked and loaded social media hybrid strategy.</p>

<p>00:13:47:02 - 00:14:11:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And just as a reminder, that strategy is what led us to to growth in our student ministry. Now, once you start filming and posting your long form, messages to YouTube, that&#39;s really where you can start to see the parent rewards and the leader rewards and all of this, as I teased at the beginning, because you&#39;re posting your messages to YouTube and so parents can go watch it and see what their kids are learning.</p>

<p>00:14:11:08 - 00:14:36:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And it&#39;s a great tool and resource in that regard. And also, leaders like we teach our message on Wednesday, but we also post the film YouTube adaptation to it as well. And so far, our leaders who lead a discussion based off the topic on Sunday morning, they have access to that teaching as well. And both of those are ways in which we&#39;ve both, found incredible amounts of, like, help and resources to both our parents and our leaders.</p>

<p>00:14:36:11 - 00:15:00:04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Not no matter which of those options you choose. I want you to know this going hybrid is not the end goal. You know this. The end goal is to make more and better disciples of Jesus. Whatever your mission statement is, I hope it&#39;s rooted and tied to the great commission of Jesus. And this hybrid strategy is simply a strategy that sits inside this great commission from Jesus.</p>

<p>00:15:00:06 - 00:15:12:05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so keep doing great youth ministry. Keep doing what you&#39;re doing, and if this can help you, I hope that it does. And I want you to know I&#39;m rooting for you. So don&#39;t forget my friends. And as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I posted this way and</p>

<p>00:00:01:23 - 00:00:03:06<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
this often for the last</p>

<p>00:00:03:06 - 00:00:04:13<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
three years. And here&#39;s</p>

<p>00:00:04:13 - 00:00:34:01<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
what happened on YouTube alone. We&#39;ve had over 6000 views, 4000 plus hours of watch time, and over 900 subscribers. That&#39;s awesome success online. However, it doesn&#39;t just stop there. We&#39;ve experienced 100.6% growth in our youth ministry in that exact same amount of time while we&#39;ve been posting like, okay, here&#39;s a good news I am real life boots on the ground youth pastor.</p>

<p>00:00:34:01 - 00:01:02:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I also have to do things just like you like write a message, recruit volunteers, meet with my senior pastor as well as dream up, create, and post on social media regularly. Now if you do this, I will say that you&#39;ll experience 100.6% growth. But there are many additional benefits to this strategy. Things like attendance obviously being one of them.</p>

<p>00:01:02:22 - 00:01:23:16<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But you&#39;ll also see an uptick in student ministry volunteers, an uptick in your parent ministry. It can increase your leader, retention, and you&#39;ll have the ability to lean into your true calling as a pastor, where you get the opportunity to equip the saints for the works and acts of service, which actually we talked about in my last video linked right here.</p>

<p>00:01:23:18 - 00:01:44:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And here&#39;s the thing. I can help you do it. I have three different tiers of help available. Like if you&#39;re on the intern budget, I can give you completely free rundown version. If you&#39;re on the youth pastor budget for less than $6 a month, I have an option for you there as well. Or if you have the Senior Pastor Cadillac option, I&#39;ll do it for you.</p>

<p>00:01:44:08 - 00:02:08:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
This is where the parent and the leader piece really comes into play in that final option. Don&#39;t forget there are some chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of this episode that makes the most sense to you. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I&#39;ve been on staff here at this church exactly three years and in the exact same amount of time.</p>

<p>00:02:08:23 - 00:02:31:15<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Just like I said in the intro, we&#39;ve been posting with this rhythm. In fact, when we started, we were posting all of our long form messages to YouTube and we were doing so with just a cell phone camera. In fact, as soon as I moved here, I bought the brand new Google Pixel nine Plus Pro so that I could use it for social media and for its its camera purposes.</p>

<p>00:02:31:15 - 00:02:59:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
They were telling me at the time that it was the best phone on the market, and so we were using it. And that was our that was our primary avenue. Bought a couple of different like microphone options to pair with the camera. And that was it. That&#39;s all we had and that&#39;s all we used. And so we would post not only long form YouTube messages, but also all of our short form content, which, speaking of short form content, we were posting three times per day on social media.</p>

<p>00:02:59:03 - 00:03:34:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
My goal at the time was aggressive growth, and I had just moved here from Chicago. And I had just, you know, for the previous about six months or so, been kind of dabbling in the tick tock Instagram Reels realm and was learning that three times a day was aggressive. But it also, you had more bites at the apple for an opportunity to be seen, you know, at the time, the kind of go on on those platforms TikTok, Instagram Reels, YouTube shorts was get as many bites at the apple so that you have more chances to be discovered, to be seen, and then to go viral.</p>

<p>00:03:35:00 - 00:03:54:19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
This my strategy has since shifted a little bit. And, you know, of course we&#39;ll get into that. But then we were filming any of these pieces of content just in and around our space. So in offices or in like the lobby or like even just main on the street, like anywhere we found any of our other, like, staff.</p>

<p>00:03:54:21 - 00:04:18:19<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But eventually we built a full studio, which is actually the room I am sitting in right now. And over time, we&#39;ve progressively spent more on gear and on set design and budget for it. But to start, it was a pretty basic studio build. We spent a little bit on paint and, you know, some wall treatment type options and some tchotchkes for shelves.</p>

<p>00:04:18:19 - 00:04:38:00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And that was it. I will actually post full, tour studio link down below if you&#39;re interested in that, along with much of the gear that we use for that. But I would say one of the key shifts was once we had our studio built out, I had a resident shout out to my good friend Caleb Flywheel.</p>

<p>00:04:38:00 - 00:05:01:23<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Maita, who had this idea, because we were posting long form pieces of content, for all of our messages on YouTube. So that was myself and any, anyone else on staff that was, that was delivering a message that was being posted to YouTube. He wanted to see more students in long form on YouTube. So he created this idea this weekly social challenge.</p>

<p>00:05:01:23 - 00:05:22:18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He would film it on Wednesday night, in long form, in horizontal mode, and then he would edit all day Thursday and post a social challenge by the end of the day Thursday. It was a great idea. It&#39;s a great concept, but it was cooking his Thursdays like he never got anything else done except for just working on, you know, social challenge stuff.</p>

<p>00:05:22:20 - 00:05:41:10<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so we eventually, adapted and shifted that strategy to be where we captured the majority and the lion&#39;s share of our student based short form content. We would do it in the studio any single time that we met on Wednesday nights. And I&#39;ve detailed an outline that in previous episodes. So make sure that you subscribe and go back and listen to some of those.</p>

<p>00:05:41:12 - 00:05:59:04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But here&#39;s the thing that you might be thinking as you hear this, you might be thinking, this sounds both overwhelming and hard, and I just want to let you know that I have, recently yesterday, a guy on my team came to me and he said, I am over budgeting my time. And as a what do you mean by that?</p>

<p>00:05:59:04 - 00:06:20:00<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
He said, I&#39;m giving myself like two hour blocks of time and it&#39;s not taking quite that long. And right now he is owning the majority of our social media content. I&#39;ve shifted into a little bit of a new role. I&#39;ve given him a lot more to do with with editing and posting and what he is saying in his own words, and I would I would echo this to be true.</p>

<p>00:06:20:01 - 00:06:38:17<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
What I&#39;ve learned is once you learn how to use some of these platforms and some of these programs, it&#39;s not as time consuming as you might think it is. The learning curve on the front side might feel steep, but once you get up over that hump, the actual maintenance mode of some of these things isn&#39;t as difficult as you think.</p>

<p>00:06:38:17 - 00:06:58:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And as I as I outlined in my last episode, you can hand over as much of that as you feel comfortable to your students. So let me share with you the three different tiers of options and solutions I have that you can lean into this hybrid strategy, which for us gave us two growth in a three year period of time.</p>

<p>00:06:58:12 - 00:07:25:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Let&#39;s chat. Let&#39;s check it out okay, so you have the intern budget. How do you get started? Well, I would recommend hopping down in the description to grab my 100% completely free e-book. In my original iteration, you heard me say, if you&#39;re listening to the contact section of this that I posted three times per day, I&#39;ve scaled that back, but it&#39;s still two times per day, which is still an aggressive growth strategy and mindset.</p>

<p>00:07:25:09 - 00:08:00:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And I&#39;ll just be honest, one of the main reasons that I post that aggressively is because we film enough content that I have enough things to keep my feed going and being posted, but it&#39;s a lot of students and it&#39;s a lot of leaders, and so a lot of custom content for our student ministry. But I even recommend now, and I&#39;ve done it and I&#39;ve seen it in some coaching relationships that I&#39;ve had that if you post three times a week, if you&#39;re starting completely from scratch, it&#39;s still a good strategy to lean into from a hybrid ministry standpoint.</p>

<p>00:08:00:08 - 00:08:21:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so link down below is my 100% completely free e-book. And if you want the start from scratch version, if you want the hey only post three times per week, then I recommend this next one, which is the youth pastor budget. And I can get this all for you via my Patreon account and my four seasonal social media pack.</p>

<p>00:08:21:23 - 00:08:39:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that&#39;s a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn&#39;t updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don&#39;t need that kind of stress this fall.</p>

<p>00:08:39:03 - 00:09:02:09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
That&#39;s why I created this, the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here&#39;s the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.</p>

<p>00:09:02:11 - 00:09:22:18<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And did you know that monthly hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it&#39;s only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.</p>

<p>00:09:22:20 - 00:09:44:22<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So as you just heard, the fall season of Social Media Pack is here. Go grab it. Go download it. It is the youth pastor version of this budget 1799.</p>

<p>00:09:45:03 - 00:10:07:16<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
However, in and on top of that, if you head over to my Patreon and you become a $4 a month member, you will not only receive that pack for free as a part of that membership, but you&#39;ll also then be subscribed to a weekly bonus podcast where I sit down on a microphone every single week and I explain and I outline and I flesh out all that we did.</p>

<p>00:10:07:16 - 00:10:32:21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
I basically go through our service order, and I talk about one things we could have done to be more creative and things that hit really well, and what we&#39;re doing on social media and how we&#39;re capturing certain things and all these different things. And so if you pair my bonus podcast with the social media pack, which again, reminder is free if you&#39;re a hybrid hero member, all of those things can be used to your advantage.</p>

<p>00:10:32:23 - 00:10:58:09<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
To get you started in this track of hybrid ministry. Listen, it&#39;s not here to help me get rich. It&#39;s really just here to help resource you and give you the foundation and the building blocks for what it takes to really, truly lean into a hybrid strategy, which again, as a reminder to our growth in the course of a three year period of time.</p>

<p>00:10:58:11 - 00:11:21:20<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Now, in both of those options, they&#39;re going to talk to you a lot about the value of your social media platforms. However, the real ultimate goal, I would say, is to find a way to post your weekly messages to YouTube. Now, if you have live streaming capabilities or at least live captioning capabilities, then that&#39;s a fantastic strategy. It gets the job done.</p>

<p>00:11:21:22 - 00:11:43:02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
We, both prefer. And also due to the constraints of not having, you know, camera capabilities in our main meeting room, we film our messages very similar to this direct to camera. We&#39;ll use a teleprompter at times and we will post those directly to YouTube. And at this point now we&#39;ve built up our budget in order to be able to pay for editors to do that.</p>

<p>00:11:43:02 - 00:12:13:21<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But in the very early iterations, I was the editor. And you can use something like, you know, Adobe Premiere Pro Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve, or even something like Cap Cut to get the job done. But once you get a long form, like, posted version to YouTube, this is the senior pastor budget. If you need an editor or if you need someone to do it for you, I can either offer coaching, which is like a, an agreement for a set of time or I can do it for you in my communications.</p>

<p>00:12:13:21 - 00:12:30:12<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Done for you pack in my free time. Off to the side of me being a real life youth pastor, getting those long form clips is really helpful because then you can use an AI service like Opus Stock Pro to clip them up for you. They&#39;re not as good as if a human does them. But again, you&#39;re busy.</p>

<p>00:12:30:16 - 00:12:46:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
You got things going on and, open Stop Pro is a really reasonable rate to kind of offer to do that. And it really does help flesh out and fill out your strategy, because if your strategy&#39;s all bunch of fun and games that you&#39;re doing with your students, that&#39;s great. Hopefully that&#39;s going to hook some viewers in your audience.</p>

<p>00:12:46:06 - 00:13:22:03<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
But then you also want to win, or at least, have the algorithm feed them some of your spiritual content as well. And that&#39;s where this really comes into play. And you can add the Patreon pack right on top of what this is, where, like, I&#39;ll be doing this for you. You can add in that Patreon pack, which will help help give you the, the coaching and the framework and the resources to hand this off to someone if you don&#39;t want to go all into this senior pastor budget option, if you just need to stick with your main youth ministry budget, here&#39;s what I would recommend.</p>

<p>00:13:22:05 - 00:13:47:02<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Of all of these things, lean in to the youth ministry budget option because it is $4 a month for the Hybrid Heroes bonus podcast tier, and that nets out to only $48 a year. Four times per year. You&#39;re going to get the social pack for free included in your membership. So for $48, you will have a fully locked and loaded social media hybrid strategy.</p>

<p>00:13:47:02 - 00:14:11:08<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And just as a reminder, that strategy is what led us to to growth in our student ministry. Now, once you start filming and posting your long form, messages to YouTube, that&#39;s really where you can start to see the parent rewards and the leader rewards and all of this, as I teased at the beginning, because you&#39;re posting your messages to YouTube and so parents can go watch it and see what their kids are learning.</p>

<p>00:14:11:08 - 00:14:36:07<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And it&#39;s a great tool and resource in that regard. And also, leaders like we teach our message on Wednesday, but we also post the film YouTube adaptation to it as well. And so far, our leaders who lead a discussion based off the topic on Sunday morning, they have access to that teaching as well. And both of those are ways in which we&#39;ve both, found incredible amounts of, like, help and resources to both our parents and our leaders.</p>

<p>00:14:36:11 - 00:15:00:04<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
Not no matter which of those options you choose. I want you to know this going hybrid is not the end goal. You know this. The end goal is to make more and better disciples of Jesus. Whatever your mission statement is, I hope it&#39;s rooted and tied to the great commission of Jesus. And this hybrid strategy is simply a strategy that sits inside this great commission from Jesus.</p>

<p>00:15:00:06 - 00:15:12:05<br>
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry<br>
And so keep doing great youth ministry. Keep doing what you&#39;re doing, and if this can help you, I hope that it does. And I want you to know I&#39;m rooting for you. So don&#39;t forget my friends. And as always, stay hybrid.</p>]]>
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