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Reaching Millennials, Gen Z and even Gen Alpha is going to require us to rethink some of the ways we do church. Follow along on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick no Digital, Online Church, Hybrid Ministry, Church, Meta, Gen Z, Millennials, Digital Marketing, Church Marketing, Youth Ministry, Student Ministry, Nick Clason, Digital Ministry, Church Social Media, Youth Ministry Social Media, YouTube for Church, YouTube for Youth Ministry, TikTok for Churches, TikTok for Youth Ministry, Instagram for Churches, Instagram for Youth Ministry, Facebook for Church, Facebook for Youth Ministry, Cell Phone Usage at Church Nick Clason nickclason@hybridministry.xyz Episode 195: Young Leaders vs Older Leaders: Who Connects Better? https://www.hybridministry.xyz/195 0b848eec-7a58-412f-a01e-5bcc43101a5b Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 195 Young Leaders vs Older Leaders: Who Connects Better? full Nick Clason Volunteer Leaders are so crucial to a healthy youth ministry. But as you recruit, should you focus more on older leaders? Or younger leaders? In this debate style episode we have two leaders make their case on both sides of the aisle! Let's dive in, together! 20:45 no Volunteer Leaders are so crucial to a healthy youth ministry. But as you recruit, should you focus more on older leaders? Or younger leaders? In this debate style episode we have two leaders make their case on both sides of the aisle! Let's dive in, together! 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Here we are. I am with Jacob and Tyler. Gentlemen, how we doing this morning? Jacob (00:07.712) Doing good. It's good. Tyler Johnson (00:08.579) Doing so good. Nick Clason (00:09.93) Have we both already had coffee or is that after this is over? Jacob (00:15.057) I just finished my cup, so I'm all set. Nick Clason (00:17.18) Okay. Tyler Johnson (00:17.454) I had tea because I'm a tea guy. Nick Clason (00:19.708) Hey, there you go. Who knew? The more you know. Comment down below your favorite brand of tea for Tyler. But we're going to let each of you have a moment. I don't want to get too far into this without you guys letting us know who you are. So by random draw that happened off camera and you're just going to have to trust me because I'm a pastor and I get paid to tell the truth. Jacob, you get to go first and introduce yourself one minute on the clock. Are you ready, sir? Jacob (00:19.826) Yeah. Jacob (00:48.273) Yeah, yeah, I can do a lot in a minute, let's do it. All right, yeah, my name is Jacob Hayes. I'm a student pastor for the chapel in Wisconsin. So I work with our three campuses in Wisconsin and our main campuses in Whitewater, which is UW College Town. So I get a lot of college students and it's fun to work with them. And yeah, it's just been great. See, I did it in under a minute. Nick Clason (00:50.218) All right, let's go. Tyler Johnson (01:08.02) you Nick Clason (01:11.85) 19 seconds what a right I don't think any youth pastor has ever come in that short on their time, but my friend Impressive stuff right there Tyler the bars been set bro Jacob (01:19.858) There you go. Nick Clason (01:27.56) Alright, are you ready Tyler? Let's go! Tyler Johnson (01:28.974) I'm so ready. I will take more than 19 seconds because I read that in debate it matters to take your full time. So my name is Tyler 2 Wall Johnson. The rest of that context doesn't need to be known because I don't think I can tell it in the remaining 40 seconds that I have. I am currently in Fort Wayne at Christ Hope Ministries and Church. I have only been here for about a year. was at my previous church for about eight years and I have had a fair balance of both young and old volunteers in the ministries. And so as I come today, ready to bear the fight and the voice of the older people, as there was another person in our retreat that the three of us had had recently who strives to be an older person. Jacob (01:54.899) Okay. Okay. Tyler Johnson (02:20.556) I cannot wait and so I am ready to defend the old today. Done. Nick Clason (02:27.41) Nice, great work. wait, I got distracted. There we go. I almost didn't give you credit for that because I laid the remote down. Tyler Johnson (02:37.101) Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, let it be known that it was about 56 seconds. Nick Clason (02:40.714) Strong work, man, both of you strong work. All right, well, now that we thoroughly know everything and we know the bare minimum of Jacob's life, let's get this show on the road. So once again, by random draw, Jacob, since you went first on the last one, that means Tyler, your position that you're getting two minutes to argue is that older people are better youth ministry volunteers. Jacob (02:51.398) Okay. Okay. Nick Clason (03:10.282) and you're about to have two minutes on the clock. Are you ready? Jacob (03:11.346) Okay. Okay. Tyler Johnson (03:14.54) I will take one minute and 59 seconds. Nick Clason (03:16.99) Alright, well then my friend, take it away. Tyler Johnson (03:20.522) Yes, I am here to debate that for older volunteers, here's number one. They bring long-term faithfulness and not just energy. They model a future version of faith. They're often more emotionally stable. I do say that as a once young person, kind of middle-aged. What is 30? Am I young middle-aged or am I old young? I don't know. That's for later. I'm in my debate time. Jacob (03:42.345) . Thank Tyler Johnson (03:50.955) Here's one of the probably the biggest that I have seen more personally outside of just reading from my notes and it's this. There is more ownership with the maturity, not just ownership of the ministry, but there's ownership of the tasks that they have. Not only do they see the ministry as their own or maybe their small group as their own and the ability to without asking permission or even sometimes without asking how. Nick Clason (04:01.514) Hmm. Jacob (04:13.129) . Tyler Johnson (04:18.508) They're going to go in and say, like, you know, they're going to grab the lunches. They're going to grab the coffees. I don't have to hold their hand for some of that. At the same time in ministry, if they are teaching a lesson, if they are preparing small group questions, it is theirs. They want to own it. And they might want feedback over some of that, but they're going to have ownership of it. In the same way, finally, there's a lot of ownership of their faith. As a young adult, even a young Jacob (04:36.369) Okay. Tyler Johnson (04:47.052) volunteer. I do believe someone is supposed to have a Paul and a Timothy at all times, even into their older years. But there's a lot of times that that those 20 somethings, they are still looking very heavily towards their Paul. And so with the the 40s, I would say arguably older ministry volunteers is probably 50 up. They they have experienced that mentorship role and are more willing to be the Paul than needing to be the Timothy. Done. Nick Clason (05:18.782) Fantastic, strong work. Jacob, the bar has been set, my friend. He brought in the Bible and everything, so it's now time for you. Jacob (05:19.344) There you go. That was good. Jacob (05:25.413) Here we go. Tyler Johnson (05:28.446) shoot, I should have used the Bible. Nick Clason (05:33.5) It's that time for you to argue your side of the aisle, though you guys are friends. You once were friends. Will you still be friends after this, Jacob? Two minutes on the clock. Take it away. Jacob (05:35.44) Here we go. Jacob (05:45.85) Go for it. Yeah, so I want to clarify before I offend anybody that's 35 or older, that I'm 29, so 30 and above is still in the older mark for me. But I think there's something that younger volunteers provide that can't be replicated anywhere else. And that first thing mainly is just proximity. Proximity to culture, life stage, proximity to what students are actually experiencing right now. You know, they remember what it was like to sit in the cafeteria awkward wondering about what they're going to do with their lives. Not 25 years ago with a completely different generation, but just a couple years ago. I think the other thing that it provides is you get you get volunteers. Students look to those younger volunteers and they see a hope, not just a hope that's like, man, 45, 50 years from now, this is where I can be. But there's a hope of OK, faith can actually survive past high school like. faith can actually thrive in a college setting because I'm seeing college-age young adult students or young adult leaders actually engaging and figuring it out. And they don't have all of the answers completely. But I also think that that provides a comfortability of freedom to the students that go like, hey, it's okay if I'm not hitting college-age and I have all of the answers because they're still trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And that's okay, it's a process. And they can kind of have hope in that. And then the younger leaders can speak into that a little bit for them and give them a sense of, going be okay, you've got time to process some of these things and they can do that together. I think the other thing is that it builds a leadership pipeline. know, for all the pros that Tyler's talking about, for the older volunteers, you don't get there without some of the without starting at some point. And so you got to start as a young leader, use the skills that you have at the time and then work your way up to a place where you can be a a Paul instead of just a Timothy. But also remember that Tyler Johnson (07:31.562) you Jacob (07:34.745) Paul called Timothy when he was super young into a step of ministry. It wasn't that, let's get you to a certain age, but it was right there in that moment. Done. Nick Clason (07:45.086) Great. So each person, each member of the defense, I don't know, this isn't court, has presented their side. Does anyone have a clarifying question for the other person to try and understand their side of the argument maybe a little bit better? Tyler Johnson (07:56.747) you Jacob (08:10.063) Yeah, I'll go. Clarify a little bit on the emotional stability of older volunteers. I'm not saying I disagree. I just want to hear the specific strength that comes from as an older volunteer, because I think it's possible the younger volunteers can be in a place where they're emotionally stable. But maybe I'm missing the angle that you're coming from. Tyler Johnson (08:21.194) Yeah, I think that older volunteers can react less dramatically to maybe sometimes it's student behavior or something like that, as well as even when there are storms in their personal life, I think you'll see someone who's Jacob (08:40.374) Here you go. Jacob (08:46.447) Yeah, that's Tyler Johnson (08:50.249) keep a more calm sense in them more than when the storms of life are hitting a young person. Nick Clason (09:00.648) Tyler, you got one for Jacob? Tyler Johnson (09:02.845) I'm gonna come up with one, but I really liked Jacob's take. No, no, no, no, no, I didn't admit guilty, I'm just saying, it was a good point. Talk to me some about, obviously with the older crowd, took the stance of there's some high reliability. Nick Clason (09:05.608) Yeah. Jacob (09:10.84) Did he just admit on here that I won or we live over? Nick Clason (09:16.126) Ahem. Tyler Johnson (09:29.917) Talk to me about the lows of reliability in young people and if that has been an experience that you've experienced. Jacob (09:36.093) I mean 100 % although I would also argue that I've that I've worked with older volunteers who are sometimes just as as unreliable as as younger volunteers and so it's a little bit of a balance I think One of the things that all that I'll say and I'll push a little bit on the younger volunteers compared to older volunteers if I'm doing a and I'm hoping that all of us are in agreement that this is a horrible idea if I'm doing an overnight event right, I'm getting the young guys who can pound two red bulls and eat Taco Bell and go run with the kids then get the older volunteers to go, hey, I need you to go run around for a whole night and interact. And so there's a little bit of an energy there that they can provide. And I totally agree. think there's the emotional stability thing is super important. I do agree. think older volunteers are a lot more calm, especially in situations where like we need calmness and direction in terms of crisis, both in our lives and then also just in the craziness of Wednesday nights, we need a little bit of calm. Nick Clason (10:05.866) Yeah. Tyler Johnson (10:29.225) you Jacob (10:30.03) But I think at some point you're not going to be able to, they're not going to be able to learn that, the young leaders, unless they're in it first and see the older people do it. And so they have to experience that so that way they can also learn how to get there. Tyler Johnson (10:41.503) I do, so what's really fun is talking about the overnight, right? Because we've all been there. Sometimes it's not about just the evening, it's about the recovery. I've known some young people who pounded those two Red Bulls and then afterwards, like the next day, they are a frail Victorian child on their couch. Jacob (10:45.549) Yeah. Jacob (10:53.095) Yeah, that's right. Jacob (11:03.021) True. Tyler Johnson (11:03.857) And some older people who are like, I got my coffee and I'm going to work today. And I'm like, you're insane. Jacob (11:11.511) Fair enough. Nick Clason (11:12.522) Well, and younger people have like sometimes their life lends itself better for recovery. They're like, I will be sleeping all day Saturday and it doesn't matter. And older people are like, I have a family and we have an upward basketball game that we have to be at at 9 a.m. You know what I'm saying? And so there's definitely like there's some of the availability piece of maybe like a younger person, but there's maybe some of the wisdom piece of the older person. Tyler Johnson (11:30.407) Absolutely. Nick Clason (11:41.726) Which is probably why this is a terrible argument to have a either or stance on, right? Like that's probably why it's helpful and beneficial to have a good blend of both, right? And so that doesn't make for a strong YouTube title, but it does make probably for good youth ministry to have a good blend of older volunteers and younger volunteers because you can certainly see the pros of both sides. And let's be honest, you can also see the cons. Jacob (11:48.783) Yeah. Jacob (12:05.888) For sure. Nick Clason (12:11.89) of both stances of the argument. Tyler Johnson (12:14.44) Yeah, and to be honest, I figured that was the point anyway, right, is to have the balance. even for the older people, the idea is not they are not just mentoring the students, they're mentoring the younger leaders. There's so much wrapped up. Jacob said it, there's a pipeline. You don't get to be the older volunteer without at one point probably being also the younger volunteer. And realistically, as the younger volunteer, as I was a younger volunteer, Jacob (12:16.813) Yeah. Nick Clason (12:18.023) You Nick Clason (12:27.114) Hmm. Nick Clason (12:39.241) Yeah. Tyler Johnson (12:44.155) There were volunteers that I looked up to that said, man, I want to do discipleship that way. want to do, man, I want to have their presence when my life looks like their life. Jacob (12:44.301) Sounds like I'm I'm winning now this thing Nick Clason (12:54.652) I was gonna say objection to the pipeline because like what's the point of a pipeline? You don't actually want them past 30. So like just burn them out bro and then. Tyler Johnson (13:03.848) Are you? I'm sorry, Mr. Host, are you taking a stance? I don't feel good about this. Nick Clason (13:07.816) No, I was just, I was just. I was just playing a counterpoint. All right. Jacob (13:15.353) You Nick Clason (13:18.014) Final arguments, are we ready? So I believe since Jacob went first on the last one, Tyler, is that right? Jacob (13:24.204) That's right. Tyler Johnson (13:30.001) I went first on the last one. Nick Clason (13:31.484) since Tyler went first on the last one by random draw that you'll have to trust. Yeah, I'm pastor. Jacob, one minute on the clock to defend your younglings. Are you ready? All right, take it away. Tyler Johnson (13:37.148) You're a pastor. Jacob (13:45.366) Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, think, yeah, close that out. I think it's also like you see the students that get to see the younger leaders engage, that gives them a hopeful passion and you can plug those guys in when they graduate into your middle school programming, right? And then that's where they can learn even more. And so it's not just you have these students from... It would be great. It would be a great world to live in if they if every single one of them came in in sixth grade and stayed until senior year, right? But we know that that some of them come in in their in their senior year or junior year or anywhere in that spectrum and you think well only have a certain amount of time right? Well these younger leaders can pour into these people and help them figure out their gifts. So maybe it's being called into ministry. Maybe it's being called into something else or jumping into serving in student ministry to see where they feel like where their spiritual gifts are right? And those can happen at a young age rather than going well I'll just figure it out when I'm 30 and go from there. Tyler Johnson (14:44.966) Thank you. Nick Clason (14:45.256) All right, well done. Let's round it out, Mr. Tyler. Older people are better than younger people as youth ministry volunteers because... Tyler Johnson (14:51.174) I'm ready. Tyler Johnson (14:57.201) The last point I want to make for older volunteers is the vision casting as well as the decisions they make are generational. There are times that think with younger people they planned sometimes as little as like they're ready for next summer, they're ready for the next summer conference, they're ready for the next big event. When a lot of the decisions in ministry that is done from some of the older volunteers is they are thinking the long term, they are thinking about the students when they're getting to their late 30s, 40s, 50s, and how they can pour into them. They have that vision of the five-year plan and not the one-year plan. And I have found that incredibly valuable, especially when establishing a ministry for even me to go to them and have those long-term vision casting conversations about the ministry. Done. Nick Clason (15:53.61) Well done, there you have it folks. Old volunteers versus young volunteers. Let us know down below who won and whose side you're on. We should probably put like an old person emoji for one person and a child emoji. Yeah, yeah, then you, yeah. Jacob (16:08.121) And then put me Tyler Johnson (16:09.657) I just assumed that there was a filter you're gonna do in post that like I'm 90 right now. Nick Clason (16:17.13) Oh, I'm good, but I might not be that good, I mean. Yeah. Tyler Johnson (16:21.336) Okay, I'm just like, well, one, I kind of wanted to see it. I wanted to see like the really greys, like my grandfather had a very good head of hair even in his 90s. So like, I'm hoping that sticks. Yeah. 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Do older or younger leaders connect better with students?
01:32 Meet the Older Leaders vs Younger Leader Debate Contestants
04:38 Older People are Better Youth Ministry Volunteers
07:09 Younger People are Better Youth Ministry Volunteers
09:43 Can you clarify the emotional stability for older volunteers?
10:52 How should a busy youth pastor respond to social media?
12:54 Do younger people ever prove to be less reliable?
17:08 Closing Arguments

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:01.062)
What's up everybody? Here we are. I am with Jacob and Tyler. Gentlemen, how we doing this morning?

Jacob (00:07.712)
Doing good. It's good.

Tyler Johnson (00:08.579)
Doing so good.

Nick Clason (00:09.93)
Have we both already had coffee or is that after this is over?

Jacob (00:15.057)
I just finished my cup, so I'm all set.

Nick Clason (00:17.18)
Okay.

Tyler Johnson (00:17.454)
I had tea because I'm a tea guy.

Nick Clason (00:19.708)
Hey, there you go. Who knew? The more you know. Comment down below your favorite brand of tea for Tyler. But we're going to let each of you have a moment. I don't want to get too far into this without you guys letting us know who you are. So by random draw that happened off camera and you're just going to have to trust me because I'm a pastor and I get paid to tell the truth. Jacob, you get to go first and introduce yourself one minute on the clock. Are you ready, sir?

Jacob (00:19.826)
Yeah.

Jacob (00:48.273)
Yeah, yeah, I can do a lot in a minute, let's do it. All right, yeah, my name is Jacob Hayes. I'm a student pastor for the chapel in Wisconsin. So I work with our three campuses in Wisconsin and our main campuses in Whitewater, which is UW College Town. So I get a lot of college students and it's fun to work with them. And yeah, it's just been great. See, I did it in under a minute.

Nick Clason (00:50.218)
All right, let's go.

Tyler Johnson (01:08.02)
you

Nick Clason (01:11.85)
19 seconds what a right I don't think any youth pastor has ever come in that short on their time, but my friend Impressive stuff right there Tyler the bars been set bro

Jacob (01:19.858)
There you go.

Nick Clason (01:27.56)
Alright, are you ready Tyler? Let's go!

Tyler Johnson (01:28.974)
I'm so ready. I will take more than 19 seconds because I read that in debate it matters to take your full time. So my name is Tyler 2 Wall Johnson. The rest of that context doesn't need to be known because I don't think I can tell it in the remaining 40 seconds that I have. I am currently in Fort Wayne at Christ Hope Ministries and Church.

I have only been here for about a year. was at my previous church for about eight years and I have had a fair balance of both young and old volunteers in the ministries. And so as I come today, ready to bear the fight and the voice of the older people, as there was another person in our retreat that the three of us had had recently who strives to be an older person.

Jacob (01:54.899)
Okay. Okay.

Tyler Johnson (02:20.556)
I cannot wait and so I am ready to defend the old today. Done.

Nick Clason (02:27.41)
Nice, great work. wait, I got distracted. There we go. I almost didn't give you credit for that because I laid the remote down.

Tyler Johnson (02:37.101)
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, let it be known that it was about 56 seconds.

Nick Clason (02:40.714)
Strong work, man, both of you strong work. All right, well, now that we thoroughly know everything and we know the bare minimum of Jacob's life, let's get this show on the road. So once again, by random draw, Jacob, since you went first on the last one, that means Tyler, your position that you're getting two minutes to argue is that older people are better youth ministry volunteers.

Jacob (02:51.398)
Okay. Okay.

Nick Clason (03:10.282)
and you're about to have two minutes on the clock. Are you ready?

Jacob (03:11.346)
Okay. Okay.

Tyler Johnson (03:14.54)
I will take one minute and 59 seconds.

Nick Clason (03:16.99)
Alright, well then my friend, take it away.

Tyler Johnson (03:20.522)
Yes, I am here to debate that for older volunteers, here's number one. They bring long-term faithfulness and not just energy. They model a future version of faith. They're often more emotionally stable. I do say that as a once young person, kind of middle-aged. What is 30? Am I young middle-aged or am I old young? I don't know. That's for later. I'm in my debate time.

Jacob (03:42.345)
. Thank

Tyler Johnson (03:50.955)
Here's one of the probably the biggest that I have seen more personally outside of just reading from my notes and it's this. There is more ownership with the maturity, not just ownership of the ministry, but there's ownership of the tasks that they have. Not only do they see the ministry as their own or maybe their small group as their own and the ability to without asking permission or even sometimes without asking how.

Nick Clason (04:01.514)
Hmm.

Jacob (04:13.129)
.

Tyler Johnson (04:18.508)
They're going to go in and say, like, you know, they're going to grab the lunches. They're going to grab the coffees. I don't have to hold their hand for some of that. At the same time in ministry, if they are teaching a lesson, if they are preparing small group questions, it is theirs. They want to own it. And they might want feedback over some of that, but they're going to have ownership of it. In the same way, finally, there's a lot of ownership of their faith. As a young adult, even a young

Jacob (04:36.369)
Okay.

Tyler Johnson (04:47.052)
volunteer. I do believe someone is supposed to have a Paul and a Timothy at all times, even into their older years. But there's a lot of times that that those 20 somethings, they are still looking very heavily towards their Paul. And so with the the 40s, I would say arguably older ministry volunteers is probably 50 up. They they have experienced that mentorship role and are more willing to be the Paul than needing to be the Timothy. Done.

Nick Clason (05:18.782)
Fantastic, strong work. Jacob, the bar has been set, my friend. He brought in the Bible and everything, so it's now time for you.

Jacob (05:19.344)
There you go. That was good.

Jacob (05:25.413)
Here we go.

Tyler Johnson (05:28.446)
shoot, I should have used the Bible.

Nick Clason (05:33.5)
It's that time for you to argue your side of the aisle, though you guys are friends. You once were friends. Will you still be friends after this, Jacob? Two minutes on the clock. Take it away.

Jacob (05:35.44)
Here we go.

Jacob (05:45.85)
Go for it. Yeah, so I want to clarify before I offend anybody that's 35 or older, that I'm 29, so 30 and above is still in the older mark for me. But I think there's something that younger volunteers provide that can't be replicated anywhere else. And that first thing mainly is just proximity. Proximity to culture, life stage, proximity to what students are actually experiencing right now.

You know, they remember what it was like to sit in the cafeteria awkward wondering about what they're going to do with their lives. Not 25 years ago with a completely different generation, but just a couple years ago. I think the other thing that it provides is you get you get volunteers. Students look to those younger volunteers and they see a hope, not just a hope that's like, man, 45, 50 years from now, this is where I can be. But there's a hope of OK, faith can actually survive past high school like.

faith can actually thrive in a college setting because I'm seeing college-age young adult students or young adult leaders actually engaging and figuring it out. And they don't have all of the answers completely. But I also think that that provides a comfortability of freedom to the students that go like, hey, it's okay if I'm not hitting college-age and I have all of the answers because they're still trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And that's okay, it's a process. And they can kind of have hope in that. And then the younger leaders can speak into that a little bit for them and give them a sense of,

going be okay, you've got time to process some of these things and they can do that together. I think the other thing is that it builds a leadership pipeline. know, for all the pros that Tyler's talking about, for the older volunteers, you don't get there without some of the without starting at some point. And so you got to start as a young leader, use the skills that you have at the time and then work your way up to a place where you can be a a Paul instead of just a Timothy. But also remember that

Tyler Johnson (07:31.562)
you

Jacob (07:34.745)
Paul called Timothy when he was super young into a step of ministry. It wasn't that, let's get you to a certain age, but it was right there in that moment. Done.

Nick Clason (07:45.086)
Great. So each person, each member of the defense, I don't know, this isn't court, has presented their side. Does anyone have a clarifying question for the other person to try and understand their side of the argument maybe a little bit better?

Tyler Johnson (07:56.747)
you

Jacob (08:10.063)
Yeah, I'll go. Clarify a little bit on the emotional stability of older volunteers. I'm not saying I disagree. I just want to hear the specific strength that comes from as an older volunteer, because I think it's possible the younger volunteers can be in a place where they're emotionally stable. But maybe I'm missing the angle that you're coming from.

Tyler Johnson (08:21.194)
Yeah, I think that older volunteers can react less dramatically to maybe sometimes it's student behavior or something like that, as well as even when there are storms in their personal life, I think you'll see someone who's

Jacob (08:40.374)
Here you go.

Jacob (08:46.447)
Yeah, that's

Tyler Johnson (08:50.249)
keep a more calm sense in them more than when the storms of life are hitting a young person.

Nick Clason (09:00.648)
Tyler, you got one for Jacob?

Tyler Johnson (09:02.845)
I'm gonna come up with one, but I really liked Jacob's take. No, no, no, no, no, I didn't admit guilty, I'm just saying, it was a good point. Talk to me some about, obviously with the older crowd, took the stance of there's some high reliability.

Nick Clason (09:05.608)
Yeah.

Jacob (09:10.84)
Did he just admit on here that I won or we live over?

Nick Clason (09:16.126)
Ahem.

Tyler Johnson (09:29.917)
Talk to me about the lows of reliability in young people and if that has been an experience that you've experienced.

Jacob (09:36.093)
I mean 100 % although I would also argue that I've that I've worked with older volunteers who are sometimes just as as unreliable as as younger volunteers and so it's a little bit of a balance I think One of the things that all that I'll say and I'll push a little bit on the younger volunteers compared to older volunteers if I'm doing a and I'm hoping that all of us are in agreement that this is a horrible idea if I'm doing an overnight event right, I'm getting the young guys who can

pound two red bulls and eat Taco Bell and go run with the kids then get the older volunteers to go, hey, I need you to go run around for a whole night and interact. And so there's a little bit of an energy there that they can provide. And I totally agree. think there's the emotional stability thing is super important. I do agree. think older volunteers are a lot more calm, especially in situations where like we need calmness and direction in terms of crisis, both in our lives and then also just in the craziness of Wednesday nights, we need a little bit of calm.

Nick Clason (10:05.866)
Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (10:29.225)
you

Jacob (10:30.03)
But I think at some point you're not going to be able to, they're not going to be able to learn that, the young leaders, unless they're in it first and see the older people do it. And so they have to experience that so that way they can also learn how to get there.

Tyler Johnson (10:41.503)
I do, so what's really fun is talking about the overnight, right? Because we've all been there. Sometimes it's not about just the evening, it's about the recovery. I've known some young people who pounded those two Red Bulls and then afterwards, like the next day, they are a frail Victorian child on their couch.

Jacob (10:45.549)
Yeah.

Jacob (10:53.095)
Yeah, that's right.

Jacob (11:03.021)
True.

Tyler Johnson (11:03.857)
And some older people who are like, I got my coffee and I'm going to work today. And I'm like, you're insane.

Jacob (11:11.511)
Fair enough.

Nick Clason (11:12.522)
Well, and younger people have like sometimes their life lends itself better for recovery. They're like, I will be sleeping all day Saturday and it doesn't matter. And older people are like, I have a family and we have an upward basketball game that we have to be at at 9 a.m. You know what I'm saying? And so there's definitely like there's some of the availability piece of maybe like a younger person, but there's maybe some of the wisdom piece of the older person.

Tyler Johnson (11:30.407)
Absolutely.

Nick Clason (11:41.726)
Which is probably why this is a terrible argument to have a either or stance on, right? Like that's probably why it's helpful and beneficial to have a good blend of both, right? And so that doesn't make for a strong YouTube title, but it does make probably for good youth ministry to have a good blend of older volunteers and younger volunteers because you can certainly see the pros of both sides. And let's be honest, you can also see the cons.

Jacob (11:48.783)
Yeah.

Jacob (12:05.888)
For sure.

Nick Clason (12:11.89)
of both stances of the argument.

Tyler Johnson (12:14.44)
Yeah, and to be honest, I figured that was the point anyway, right, is to have the balance. even for the older people, the idea is not they are not just mentoring the students, they're mentoring the younger leaders. There's so much wrapped up. Jacob said it, there's a pipeline. You don't get to be the older volunteer without at one point probably being also the younger volunteer. And realistically, as the younger volunteer, as I was a younger volunteer,

Jacob (12:16.813)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:18.023)
You

Nick Clason (12:27.114)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (12:39.241)
Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (12:44.155)
There were volunteers that I looked up to that said, man, I want to do discipleship that way. want to do, man, I want to have their presence when my life looks like their life.

Jacob (12:44.301)
Sounds like I'm I'm winning now this thing

Nick Clason (12:54.652)
I was gonna say objection to the pipeline because like what's the point of a pipeline? You don't actually want them past 30. So like just burn them out bro and then.

Tyler Johnson (13:03.848)
Are you? I'm sorry, Mr. Host, are you taking a stance? I don't feel good about this.

Nick Clason (13:07.816)
No, I was just, I was just.

I was just playing a counterpoint. All right.

Jacob (13:15.353)
You

Nick Clason (13:18.014)
Final arguments, are we ready? So I believe since Jacob went first on the last one, Tyler, is that right?

Jacob (13:24.204)
That's right.

Tyler Johnson (13:30.001)
I went first on the last one.

Nick Clason (13:31.484)
since Tyler went first on the last one by random draw that you'll have to trust. Yeah, I'm pastor. Jacob, one minute on the clock to defend your younglings. Are you ready? All right, take it away.

Tyler Johnson (13:37.148)
You're a pastor.

Jacob (13:45.366)
Yeah, I'm ready.

Yeah, think, yeah, close that out. I think it's also like you see the students that get to see the younger leaders engage, that gives them a hopeful passion and you can plug those guys in when they graduate into your middle school programming, right? And then that's where they can learn even more. And so it's not just you have these students from...

It would be great. It would be a great world to live in if they if every single one of them came in in sixth grade and stayed until senior year, right? But we know that that some of them come in in their in their senior year or junior year or anywhere in that spectrum and you think well only have a certain amount of time right? Well these younger leaders can pour into these people and help them figure out their gifts. So maybe it's being called into ministry. Maybe it's being called into something else or jumping into serving in student ministry to see where they feel like where their spiritual gifts are right? And those can happen at a young age rather than going well I'll just figure it out when I'm 30 and go from there.

Tyler Johnson (14:44.966)
Thank you.

Nick Clason (14:45.256)
All right, well done. Let's round it out, Mr. Tyler. Older people are better than younger people as youth ministry volunteers because...

Tyler Johnson (14:51.174)
I'm ready.

Tyler Johnson (14:57.201)
The last point I want to make for older volunteers is the vision casting as well as the decisions they make are generational. There are times that think with younger people they planned sometimes as little as like they're ready for next summer, they're ready for the next summer conference, they're ready for the next big event. When a lot of the decisions in ministry that is done from some of the older volunteers is they are thinking the long term, they are thinking about the students when they're getting to their

late 30s, 40s, 50s, and how they can pour into them. They have that vision of the five-year plan and not the one-year plan. And I have found that incredibly valuable, especially when establishing a ministry for even me to go to them and have those long-term vision casting conversations about the ministry. Done.

Nick Clason (15:53.61)
Well done, there you have it folks. Old volunteers versus young volunteers. Let us know down below who won and whose side you're on. We should probably put like an old person emoji for one person and a child emoji. Yeah, yeah, then you, yeah.

Jacob (16:08.121)
And then put me

Tyler Johnson (16:09.657)
I just assumed that there was a filter you're gonna do in post that like I'm 90 right now.

Nick Clason (16:17.13)
Oh, I'm good, but I might not be that good, I mean. Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (16:21.336)
Okay, I'm just like, well, one, I kind of wanted to see it. I wanted to see like the really greys, like my grandfather had a very good head of hair even in his 90s. So like, I'm hoping that sticks. Yeah.

Jacob (16:24.142)
You

Jacob (16:32.978)
That sounds nice, that sounds really nice,

Nick Clason (16:34.154)
Way to rub salt in the wounds there,

Jacob (16:39.946)
That's right.

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00:00 Do older or younger leaders connect better with students?
01:32 Meet the Older Leaders vs Younger Leader Debate Contestants
04:38 Older People are Better Youth Ministry Volunteers
07:09 Younger People are Better Youth Ministry Volunteers
09:43 Can you clarify the emotional stability for older volunteers?
10:52 How should a busy youth pastor respond to social media?
12:54 Do younger people ever prove to be less reliable?
17:08 Closing Arguments

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:01.062)
What's up everybody? Here we are. I am with Jacob and Tyler. Gentlemen, how we doing this morning?

Jacob (00:07.712)
Doing good. It's good.

Tyler Johnson (00:08.579)
Doing so good.

Nick Clason (00:09.93)
Have we both already had coffee or is that after this is over?

Jacob (00:15.057)
I just finished my cup, so I'm all set.

Nick Clason (00:17.18)
Okay.

Tyler Johnson (00:17.454)
I had tea because I'm a tea guy.

Nick Clason (00:19.708)
Hey, there you go. Who knew? The more you know. Comment down below your favorite brand of tea for Tyler. But we're going to let each of you have a moment. I don't want to get too far into this without you guys letting us know who you are. So by random draw that happened off camera and you're just going to have to trust me because I'm a pastor and I get paid to tell the truth. Jacob, you get to go first and introduce yourself one minute on the clock. Are you ready, sir?

Jacob (00:19.826)
Yeah.

Jacob (00:48.273)
Yeah, yeah, I can do a lot in a minute, let's do it. All right, yeah, my name is Jacob Hayes. I'm a student pastor for the chapel in Wisconsin. So I work with our three campuses in Wisconsin and our main campuses in Whitewater, which is UW College Town. So I get a lot of college students and it's fun to work with them. And yeah, it's just been great. See, I did it in under a minute.

Nick Clason (00:50.218)
All right, let's go.

Tyler Johnson (01:08.02)
you

Nick Clason (01:11.85)
19 seconds what a right I don't think any youth pastor has ever come in that short on their time, but my friend Impressive stuff right there Tyler the bars been set bro

Jacob (01:19.858)
There you go.

Nick Clason (01:27.56)
Alright, are you ready Tyler? Let's go!

Tyler Johnson (01:28.974)
I'm so ready. I will take more than 19 seconds because I read that in debate it matters to take your full time. So my name is Tyler 2 Wall Johnson. The rest of that context doesn't need to be known because I don't think I can tell it in the remaining 40 seconds that I have. I am currently in Fort Wayne at Christ Hope Ministries and Church.

I have only been here for about a year. was at my previous church for about eight years and I have had a fair balance of both young and old volunteers in the ministries. And so as I come today, ready to bear the fight and the voice of the older people, as there was another person in our retreat that the three of us had had recently who strives to be an older person.

Jacob (01:54.899)
Okay. Okay.

Tyler Johnson (02:20.556)
I cannot wait and so I am ready to defend the old today. Done.

Nick Clason (02:27.41)
Nice, great work. wait, I got distracted. There we go. I almost didn't give you credit for that because I laid the remote down.

Tyler Johnson (02:37.101)
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, let it be known that it was about 56 seconds.

Nick Clason (02:40.714)
Strong work, man, both of you strong work. All right, well, now that we thoroughly know everything and we know the bare minimum of Jacob's life, let's get this show on the road. So once again, by random draw, Jacob, since you went first on the last one, that means Tyler, your position that you're getting two minutes to argue is that older people are better youth ministry volunteers.

Jacob (02:51.398)
Okay. Okay.

Nick Clason (03:10.282)
and you're about to have two minutes on the clock. Are you ready?

Jacob (03:11.346)
Okay. Okay.

Tyler Johnson (03:14.54)
I will take one minute and 59 seconds.

Nick Clason (03:16.99)
Alright, well then my friend, take it away.

Tyler Johnson (03:20.522)
Yes, I am here to debate that for older volunteers, here's number one. They bring long-term faithfulness and not just energy. They model a future version of faith. They're often more emotionally stable. I do say that as a once young person, kind of middle-aged. What is 30? Am I young middle-aged or am I old young? I don't know. That's for later. I'm in my debate time.

Jacob (03:42.345)
. Thank

Tyler Johnson (03:50.955)
Here's one of the probably the biggest that I have seen more personally outside of just reading from my notes and it's this. There is more ownership with the maturity, not just ownership of the ministry, but there's ownership of the tasks that they have. Not only do they see the ministry as their own or maybe their small group as their own and the ability to without asking permission or even sometimes without asking how.

Nick Clason (04:01.514)
Hmm.

Jacob (04:13.129)
.

Tyler Johnson (04:18.508)
They're going to go in and say, like, you know, they're going to grab the lunches. They're going to grab the coffees. I don't have to hold their hand for some of that. At the same time in ministry, if they are teaching a lesson, if they are preparing small group questions, it is theirs. They want to own it. And they might want feedback over some of that, but they're going to have ownership of it. In the same way, finally, there's a lot of ownership of their faith. As a young adult, even a young

Jacob (04:36.369)
Okay.

Tyler Johnson (04:47.052)
volunteer. I do believe someone is supposed to have a Paul and a Timothy at all times, even into their older years. But there's a lot of times that that those 20 somethings, they are still looking very heavily towards their Paul. And so with the the 40s, I would say arguably older ministry volunteers is probably 50 up. They they have experienced that mentorship role and are more willing to be the Paul than needing to be the Timothy. Done.

Nick Clason (05:18.782)
Fantastic, strong work. Jacob, the bar has been set, my friend. He brought in the Bible and everything, so it's now time for you.

Jacob (05:19.344)
There you go. That was good.

Jacob (05:25.413)
Here we go.

Tyler Johnson (05:28.446)
shoot, I should have used the Bible.

Nick Clason (05:33.5)
It's that time for you to argue your side of the aisle, though you guys are friends. You once were friends. Will you still be friends after this, Jacob? Two minutes on the clock. Take it away.

Jacob (05:35.44)
Here we go.

Jacob (05:45.85)
Go for it. Yeah, so I want to clarify before I offend anybody that's 35 or older, that I'm 29, so 30 and above is still in the older mark for me. But I think there's something that younger volunteers provide that can't be replicated anywhere else. And that first thing mainly is just proximity. Proximity to culture, life stage, proximity to what students are actually experiencing right now.

You know, they remember what it was like to sit in the cafeteria awkward wondering about what they're going to do with their lives. Not 25 years ago with a completely different generation, but just a couple years ago. I think the other thing that it provides is you get you get volunteers. Students look to those younger volunteers and they see a hope, not just a hope that's like, man, 45, 50 years from now, this is where I can be. But there's a hope of OK, faith can actually survive past high school like.

faith can actually thrive in a college setting because I'm seeing college-age young adult students or young adult leaders actually engaging and figuring it out. And they don't have all of the answers completely. But I also think that that provides a comfortability of freedom to the students that go like, hey, it's okay if I'm not hitting college-age and I have all of the answers because they're still trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And that's okay, it's a process. And they can kind of have hope in that. And then the younger leaders can speak into that a little bit for them and give them a sense of,

going be okay, you've got time to process some of these things and they can do that together. I think the other thing is that it builds a leadership pipeline. know, for all the pros that Tyler's talking about, for the older volunteers, you don't get there without some of the without starting at some point. And so you got to start as a young leader, use the skills that you have at the time and then work your way up to a place where you can be a a Paul instead of just a Timothy. But also remember that

Tyler Johnson (07:31.562)
you

Jacob (07:34.745)
Paul called Timothy when he was super young into a step of ministry. It wasn't that, let's get you to a certain age, but it was right there in that moment. Done.

Nick Clason (07:45.086)
Great. So each person, each member of the defense, I don't know, this isn't court, has presented their side. Does anyone have a clarifying question for the other person to try and understand their side of the argument maybe a little bit better?

Tyler Johnson (07:56.747)
you

Jacob (08:10.063)
Yeah, I'll go. Clarify a little bit on the emotional stability of older volunteers. I'm not saying I disagree. I just want to hear the specific strength that comes from as an older volunteer, because I think it's possible the younger volunteers can be in a place where they're emotionally stable. But maybe I'm missing the angle that you're coming from.

Tyler Johnson (08:21.194)
Yeah, I think that older volunteers can react less dramatically to maybe sometimes it's student behavior or something like that, as well as even when there are storms in their personal life, I think you'll see someone who's

Jacob (08:40.374)
Here you go.

Jacob (08:46.447)
Yeah, that's

Tyler Johnson (08:50.249)
keep a more calm sense in them more than when the storms of life are hitting a young person.

Nick Clason (09:00.648)
Tyler, you got one for Jacob?

Tyler Johnson (09:02.845)
I'm gonna come up with one, but I really liked Jacob's take. No, no, no, no, no, I didn't admit guilty, I'm just saying, it was a good point. Talk to me some about, obviously with the older crowd, took the stance of there's some high reliability.

Nick Clason (09:05.608)
Yeah.

Jacob (09:10.84)
Did he just admit on here that I won or we live over?

Nick Clason (09:16.126)
Ahem.

Tyler Johnson (09:29.917)
Talk to me about the lows of reliability in young people and if that has been an experience that you've experienced.

Jacob (09:36.093)
I mean 100 % although I would also argue that I've that I've worked with older volunteers who are sometimes just as as unreliable as as younger volunteers and so it's a little bit of a balance I think One of the things that all that I'll say and I'll push a little bit on the younger volunteers compared to older volunteers if I'm doing a and I'm hoping that all of us are in agreement that this is a horrible idea if I'm doing an overnight event right, I'm getting the young guys who can

pound two red bulls and eat Taco Bell and go run with the kids then get the older volunteers to go, hey, I need you to go run around for a whole night and interact. And so there's a little bit of an energy there that they can provide. And I totally agree. think there's the emotional stability thing is super important. I do agree. think older volunteers are a lot more calm, especially in situations where like we need calmness and direction in terms of crisis, both in our lives and then also just in the craziness of Wednesday nights, we need a little bit of calm.

Nick Clason (10:05.866)
Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (10:29.225)
you

Jacob (10:30.03)
But I think at some point you're not going to be able to, they're not going to be able to learn that, the young leaders, unless they're in it first and see the older people do it. And so they have to experience that so that way they can also learn how to get there.

Tyler Johnson (10:41.503)
I do, so what's really fun is talking about the overnight, right? Because we've all been there. Sometimes it's not about just the evening, it's about the recovery. I've known some young people who pounded those two Red Bulls and then afterwards, like the next day, they are a frail Victorian child on their couch.

Jacob (10:45.549)
Yeah.

Jacob (10:53.095)
Yeah, that's right.

Jacob (11:03.021)
True.

Tyler Johnson (11:03.857)
And some older people who are like, I got my coffee and I'm going to work today. And I'm like, you're insane.

Jacob (11:11.511)
Fair enough.

Nick Clason (11:12.522)
Well, and younger people have like sometimes their life lends itself better for recovery. They're like, I will be sleeping all day Saturday and it doesn't matter. And older people are like, I have a family and we have an upward basketball game that we have to be at at 9 a.m. You know what I'm saying? And so there's definitely like there's some of the availability piece of maybe like a younger person, but there's maybe some of the wisdom piece of the older person.

Tyler Johnson (11:30.407)
Absolutely.

Nick Clason (11:41.726)
Which is probably why this is a terrible argument to have a either or stance on, right? Like that's probably why it's helpful and beneficial to have a good blend of both, right? And so that doesn't make for a strong YouTube title, but it does make probably for good youth ministry to have a good blend of older volunteers and younger volunteers because you can certainly see the pros of both sides. And let's be honest, you can also see the cons.

Jacob (11:48.783)
Yeah.

Jacob (12:05.888)
For sure.

Nick Clason (12:11.89)
of both stances of the argument.

Tyler Johnson (12:14.44)
Yeah, and to be honest, I figured that was the point anyway, right, is to have the balance. even for the older people, the idea is not they are not just mentoring the students, they're mentoring the younger leaders. There's so much wrapped up. Jacob said it, there's a pipeline. You don't get to be the older volunteer without at one point probably being also the younger volunteer. And realistically, as the younger volunteer, as I was a younger volunteer,

Jacob (12:16.813)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:18.023)
You

Nick Clason (12:27.114)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (12:39.241)
Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (12:44.155)
There were volunteers that I looked up to that said, man, I want to do discipleship that way. want to do, man, I want to have their presence when my life looks like their life.

Jacob (12:44.301)
Sounds like I'm I'm winning now this thing

Nick Clason (12:54.652)
I was gonna say objection to the pipeline because like what's the point of a pipeline? You don't actually want them past 30. So like just burn them out bro and then.

Tyler Johnson (13:03.848)
Are you? I'm sorry, Mr. Host, are you taking a stance? I don't feel good about this.

Nick Clason (13:07.816)
No, I was just, I was just.

I was just playing a counterpoint. All right.

Jacob (13:15.353)
You

Nick Clason (13:18.014)
Final arguments, are we ready? So I believe since Jacob went first on the last one, Tyler, is that right?

Jacob (13:24.204)
That's right.

Tyler Johnson (13:30.001)
I went first on the last one.

Nick Clason (13:31.484)
since Tyler went first on the last one by random draw that you'll have to trust. Yeah, I'm pastor. Jacob, one minute on the clock to defend your younglings. Are you ready? All right, take it away.

Tyler Johnson (13:37.148)
You're a pastor.

Jacob (13:45.366)
Yeah, I'm ready.

Yeah, think, yeah, close that out. I think it's also like you see the students that get to see the younger leaders engage, that gives them a hopeful passion and you can plug those guys in when they graduate into your middle school programming, right? And then that's where they can learn even more. And so it's not just you have these students from...

It would be great. It would be a great world to live in if they if every single one of them came in in sixth grade and stayed until senior year, right? But we know that that some of them come in in their in their senior year or junior year or anywhere in that spectrum and you think well only have a certain amount of time right? Well these younger leaders can pour into these people and help them figure out their gifts. So maybe it's being called into ministry. Maybe it's being called into something else or jumping into serving in student ministry to see where they feel like where their spiritual gifts are right? And those can happen at a young age rather than going well I'll just figure it out when I'm 30 and go from there.

Tyler Johnson (14:44.966)
Thank you.

Nick Clason (14:45.256)
All right, well done. Let's round it out, Mr. Tyler. Older people are better than younger people as youth ministry volunteers because...

Tyler Johnson (14:51.174)
I'm ready.

Tyler Johnson (14:57.201)
The last point I want to make for older volunteers is the vision casting as well as the decisions they make are generational. There are times that think with younger people they planned sometimes as little as like they're ready for next summer, they're ready for the next summer conference, they're ready for the next big event. When a lot of the decisions in ministry that is done from some of the older volunteers is they are thinking the long term, they are thinking about the students when they're getting to their

late 30s, 40s, 50s, and how they can pour into them. They have that vision of the five-year plan and not the one-year plan. And I have found that incredibly valuable, especially when establishing a ministry for even me to go to them and have those long-term vision casting conversations about the ministry. Done.

Nick Clason (15:53.61)
Well done, there you have it folks. Old volunteers versus young volunteers. Let us know down below who won and whose side you're on. We should probably put like an old person emoji for one person and a child emoji. Yeah, yeah, then you, yeah.

Jacob (16:08.121)
And then put me

Tyler Johnson (16:09.657)
I just assumed that there was a filter you're gonna do in post that like I'm 90 right now.

Nick Clason (16:17.13)
Oh, I'm good, but I might not be that good, I mean. Yeah.

Tyler Johnson (16:21.336)
Okay, I'm just like, well, one, I kind of wanted to see it. I wanted to see like the really greys, like my grandfather had a very good head of hair even in his 90s. So like, I'm hoping that sticks. Yeah.

Jacob (16:24.142)
You

Jacob (16:32.978)
That sounds nice, that sounds really nice,

Nick Clason (16:34.154)
Way to rub salt in the wounds there,

Jacob (16:39.946)
That's right.

]]> Episode 194: Same Small Group Leader for 7 Years vs Changing Every Year https://www.hybridministry.xyz/194 9de57a9c-5534-442d-9342-af632845b958 Thu, 26 Mar 2026 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 194 Same Small Group Leader for 7 Years vs Changing Every Year full Nick Clason Small Group Leaders are the life-blood of any good student ministry. But what is our most effective strategy to deploy them? Is it to saddle a great leader with students for their entire careeer? Or is it rather to introduce students to great leaders along their journey? In this first debate style episode we have two amazing youth pastors, on two different sides of the argument, and they're going head to head, and you get to be the voter! 25:44 no Small Group Leaders are the life-blood of any good student ministry. But what is our most effective strategy to deploy them? Is it to saddle a great leader with students for their entire careeer? Or is it rather to introduce students to great leaders along their journey? 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I mean, this is about to get really, really like real now because we have two amazing youth pastors with two completely different points of view on what's best for small group student leadership. And so again, by random draw that you'll have to trust because I'm a youth pastor, so I get paid to tell the truth. Isaac was randomly drawn to give his first two minute argument. So. Isaac (00:04.782) Hmm. Stephen Rose (00:12.276) You Nick Clason (00:29.009) We're about to put two minutes on the clock. are you ready? Isaac (00:33.026) Yeah, and just just clarifying because I want to make sure we are talking about leaders walking with students like. Are is it better? Is it better for them to go each year with them or every year? Let's recycle. That's the main question. Nick Clason (00:41.915) during Nick Clason (00:50.235) That's the question at hand. Yeah, I mean, we won't get into like the pizza lock-in, like social media debate. Those are, you know, those are meaningful ones in youth ministry as well, but this one in particular, yes, that's what I'd like you to argue. I hope that you came prepared for that and not like your pro lock-in debate, cause it might not fit. Real quick here at chat GPT, real quick, give me new notes. All right, are we ready? Isaac (00:52.526) Let's go. Isaac (00:58.254) Hmm. Stephen Rose (01:10.656) Thank Isaac (01:11.534) I have to change all my notes right now. Stephen Rose (01:17.876) Thank Isaac (01:18.178) Yeah, yeah, give me new notes. All right, yep, let's go. Nick Clason (01:21.776) Two minutes on the clock, take it away. Isaac (01:24.654) All right, two minutes, here we go. The key word that I'm looking at is discipleship and what does discipleship really look like? And so, and this is something that I've been kind of studying and learning about in my 17 years of youth ministry. And so I've changed and I've morphed, but I keep leaning more towards, man, let's really walk alongside these students. Here's some examples from the Bible. Jesus, he's come down, he's like, let me really pray over who I'm really going to invest in. because he had other people that were interested in following him, but he said, no, I'm really going to invest in these 12. And he did that for three years. And then you have Paul and his relationship with Timothy, and he's being able to say things like, hey, Timothy, your grandmother, and he's naming family members and stuff, which I just don't think that you can do that in a year's time of knowing someone that you really want to get into that. So discipleship really means relationship and knowing. How does someone come in and they're fully known and fully loved? So when you're with them longer, you know the students, you know their parents, you know the deaths that happened in their family, you know what sports they're involved in, you know the injury that set them back a few years prior. And so when they confess this thing, you go, I know the meaning behind that because I've had this relationship with you for a while. I guess my main question that I would ask is why don't we go in and hire a new youth pastor every one year? You want a youth pastor to be there and and longevity breeds just this this trust that's that parents now have and I feel like as a youth pastor I'm trying to equip other leaders to come in and essentially be youth pastors And so I don't want to hire new youth pastors every year because I want that trust and that relationship and that discipleship to happen. And that can only happen over a stretch of time and not hitting the reset button every single year. Nick Clason (03:27.12) Wow, did you rehearse that? Isaac (03:31.49) No. Nick Clason (03:32.39) Strong work, my man. Strong work. Alright, Steven. It's been laid down. Like, the challenge has been issued. Are you ready? Stephen Rose (03:32.788) Thank Stephen Rose (03:42.404) Yes, yes, I'm ready. Nick Clason (03:43.354) All right, and the microphone's working and the internet is streaming and yeah, yeah. All right, sweet. All right, bro, two minutes on the clock for you, Steven. Your side is you think that it's useful for students to have a variety of leaders year in, year out, or every so often. So, my friend, take it away. Stephen Rose (03:46.548) Internet's not crashing out right now. Stephen Rose (04:07.504) Awesome. Yeah, I love what you said about discipleship. Couldn't agree more. And for me, one of the things I think is so important and what we really focus on in my context is helping students own their faith by the time they graduate. And there's been like some studies done where the more, not like infinitely, but the more adults, specifically the number was around five. If you have five good relationships. with adults who are like spiritual mentors or people that you know on at least a relatively deeper level, then you're much more likely to stick with a faith post-graduation. And I would argue that the reason for that is because their faith is hopefully being more grounded in Jesus than a specific leader. And they're rooted in Jesus. He is their firm foundation, not like an awesome leader or the youth pastor or something like that. And so when you move, not necessarily every year, but every so often, you're just more likely to build relationships with more adults. And I view that as a huge win. And so what I like to see is them build relationships, be really intentional in the year or the two years span that they're with that leader, and then really focus on the transition so they can then build a new relationship. with new leaders and the students stay together. So they're able to keep building those long-term relationships where they can grow alongside of each other. But the leaders can shift as far as small group goes. But the long-term relationships still stay the same. Just like a small group leader that I had when I was in eighth grade, I still got to talk to them later in later years and they still knew me and they still could pour into me and disciple me. And so the process can keep happening even though we're still looking towards helping them meet more people and grow closer relationships with more people. Nick Clason (06:13.38) Right on time, my man, both of you. This might be the first time two youth pastors hit their time mark right when they're supposed to. That's crazy. All right, so what we'll do now, guess, I like this. I think we're gonna go to a more open forum, all right? So let's do two minutes, but here's the thing, just so you guys know. Stephen Rose (06:20.041) Hehehehehe Nick Clason (06:40.804) I don't need to include the clock. like if it's good and free flowing, like I'm just not going to interrupt it. Like don't, don't worry about it. I'm just trying to keep things moving and make it not be like a, you know, long and boring episode. so I'll put this on, but why don't you, why don't you guys ask some clarifying questions just like back and forth and just like answer, ask, answer, ask, answer. and then, when, when we feel satisfied with that, we'll, we'll move on to the like closing testimony or whatever, whatever they call it in the courtroom. Stephen Rose (06:51.316) Thank Nick Clason (07:10.758) I don't watch enough court TV. So, does anyone have like a question to start? Like to ask the other person? All right, great. You go first then. Stephen Rose (07:11.092) Sounds good. Isaac (07:12.627) Okay. Stephen Rose (07:19.216) Yeah, yeah I do. Perfect. So Isaac, wonder in your context, if a student doesn't get, like we'll just say student doesn't get along great with a certain leader. What does that look like? Like do you go about that? Isaac (07:40.396) Yeah, man, that's great. Context, I think, matters a lot. So I've worked in a small church, a medium church, and a large church. So let's just talk about the numbers that I have here. It's weird to talk about that in church culture, but that helps context so much. So I have about 160 leaders. And in that, have, for sixth grade boys, we have five sixth grade boy groups. Stephen Rose (07:45.246) I agree. Stephen Rose (07:55.732) for sure. Isaac (08:07.854) And then each one of those groups has four leaders. And so I think that that helps so much for the person watching right now. They're like, well, this might make sense because of this. And the dynamics can shift because for you saying, hey, does a sixth grade boy, if he's if he's not enjoying this, then what? Well, he he can move to another group. He can go to one of the other four options. And that's easy. Now, when I was at a church for six and a half years and it was like Stephen Rose (08:08.049) Mm-hmm. Stephen Rose (08:27.252) Uh-huh. Stephen Rose (08:30.675) Right. Isaac (08:37.59) You have middle school boys, high school boys, middle school girls, high school girls. That's your option. Then it's like, well, what do we do when they don't like that person? And so for us in our context, it makes sense of if there's not someone getting along, there is another option in another group that they can go to. Stephen Rose (08:44.444) Right. I'm Stephen Rose (08:58.772) Sure. and Nick Clason (09:00.39) How do you guys, either of you, discern this is not a good fit and we need to quote unquote rescue the student from the fit? Or this is an opportunity to lean in and disciple the student to push through something more difficult and maybe getting along with their leader is like what God has for them in this season of their spiritual growth. Like how do you discern between those two? Because I feel like Like a parent can come to you like they hate their leader and you want to like solve that so so that the kid doesn't get mad or the family doesn't leave the church or whatever. But I think sometimes it's like, dude, you need to stop being so entitled. You know what I mean? How do you how do know? Stephen Rose (09:43.219) Yeah, that's really good. For me, I tend toward having them stay either way because I don't want for students just to pick a leader based off of, I love this leader. I can't stand that leader, which by the way, my team is awesome. I have awesome leaders, all that. And so it's really a side point. But of course, if there was if it was like coming to an unhealthy place, then I would say I'd be more willing to like figure it out. Especially if it was like a newer student, you know, who maybe isn't even a follower of Jesus yet. And okay, I'm trying to help them get comfortable first, help them feel accepted and have a good experience. And so that'd be a little different if it's someone I've been walking with for a while. And then, hey, it's time for you to grow up and, you know, and be... be mature about this and grow in your maturity. I part of that is definitely not being in your favorite spot at all times. Isaac (10:46.552) Yeah, that's good. I think that, you know, scripture says if at all possible as far as it depends on you, live at peace with with everyone. And if there's some kind of disunity there, obviously that's what the enemy is trying to seek out and bring to light is some kind of disunity. So it's our jobs as the shepherds of that to say, well, what's causing this? And so it should start with a conversation with both student and leader and saying, Nick Clason (10:46.587) Good. Stephen Rose (10:56.372) Mm. Isaac (11:14.926) Why? Why is there a disunity and how can we go towards unity? What's the conversation? Maybe you just need to say some things. Let's get it out on the table. Truth is gonna be great. Let's get it out on the table. But if it becomes a thing where it's like, we're not coming here. My kid doesn't wanna show up. I'm even pro, well, there's also another church in town because... Stephen Rose (11:29.78) Yeah. Isaac (11:42.742) The gospel doesn't just happen at this address. It happens in lot of places in discipleship. And so hopefully I am then connecting with other youth pastors in the area where I can then give a trusted, hey, why don't you go over here to this church? Because this youth pastor is also going to teach the Bible. Discipleship is also happening. But I'm not nervous to, I don't want to say threatened. It's not threatened, but to give, go ahead. If you can't grow here. Ultimately, what we are concerned about for you as a student is your growth. Go grow anywhere. Stephen Rose (12:14.045) Yeah. Nick Clason (12:17.776) Good. Stephen Rose (12:18.238) That's good. Isaac (12:19.83) Steven, got a question for you if I'm allowed to ask. Yeah, because I love what you said about having five good relationships with adults. Yes, man, let's try to, as youth pastors, bring in as many adults and as many leaders as possible in their time of being there. What does it look like in your context for how many leaders do you have in each group? Yeah, what does that look like for you? Stephen Rose (12:21.982) Sure. Nick Clason (12:22.638) Yes, yes, go. Stephen Rose (12:39.718) . Stephen Rose (12:47.234) Yeah, we have two leaders in each group. so, over time, would naturally develop relationships with multiple, I mean, hopefully, in prayerfully, you would develop relationships with your small group leaders in that time. And for us, we're, I guess, the medium church size. And so, Like for high school, for example, we have two high school guys groups, underclassmen and upperclassmen currently. And so you would meet four of the people right then and there. And then hopefully, like even like myself and some other people, because certainly our youth ministry is not the only context which you can have a relationship with an adult. But as far as what we're trying to do, it fits that mold pretty well. Isaac (13:30.51) Sure, yeah. Isaac (13:38.978) Yeah, so when you say upperclassmen leader and, what is it called? Underclassmen? That just sounded weird. Underclassmen? That just sounds underwear. Anyhow, when you have both of the, so the upperclassmen, are you saying then that those two leaders are with them for two years? Stephen Rose (13:46.608) under underclassmen. Stephen Rose (13:58.579) Yes. Isaac (13:59.648) Okay, so it's kind of like a hybrid then of it's not, I'm not thinking every year it's I'm still kind of building this. I'm in this context. So it's still once because for me, I don't even know if I'm pro you should be with them for seven years. I do like the for me, three years of middle school, you get a new high school leader, because there's just a difference between high school and middle school. Stephen Rose (14:16.923) Mm-hmm, right. Nick Clason (14:16.966) Mm-hmm. Stephen Rose (14:22.587) Thank Stephen Rose (14:27.586) Right. Isaac (14:27.84) If there is someone that's committed for seven years, my hope is that they are bringing in dads, moms, and other people to it. Because I think that what you said is key. They need to have five adults in their life or more that where they can say, it's not just one person that believes this. It's not just their characteristics, but that in discipleship, they are inviting others to be a part of it as well. If you're going to do that seven year plan. Yeah. Stephen Rose (14:32.35) Thank you. Stephen Rose (14:37.765) So. Right. Stephen Rose (14:46.388) you Yes. Right. Nick Clason (14:57.05) Yeah, yeah. And I'll just say from a youth pastor logistical standpoint, you get someone to commit for seven years, that's amazing. Are they still committed to loop back down and start a sixth grade group? Going from being a 12th grade leader to a sixth grade leader is tough. And so I've been in situations where they're committed all the way through, but then I'm always having to recruit. Stephen Rose (15:17.416) Hey. Nick Clason (15:24.462) at the entry point because no one wants to loop back down. They feel like they've quote unquote done their time and they want to be involved in student ministry, but then they want to be involved in more of like a consulting role or a coaching role. And it's like, I love that for you, but I really could use a sixth grade leader, my friend. And so that's been, that's been my experience when they loop all the way through as we, we pool all the way down at the end of the quote unquote conveyor belt, if you will. And I got some really great leaders who aren't doing ministry anymore, but if you're doing Stephen Rose (15:30.42) That's how you do it. Okay. Stephen Rose (15:53.716) What am I? You just answered about the full seven years or if it's more of a middle school to high school, because I'm I agree. I'm a little less. Nick Clason (15:54.694) Like if you're like, yo, you're the underclassmen leader and you're just going to be an expert in ninth and 10th grade. Like, and then you'll see every kid's face, hopefully as they, as they loop through. Um, it's just, it's just the way I think about it. Isaac (16:08.684) Yeah, I love that. Steven, did you have any other questions? Stephen Rose (16:23.832) cause I can see there's definitely real positives in doing both ways. And, but the seven years is the one where I really, I don't want to say worry, but for lack of a better word, worry about like a students attaching to a certain leader and, that, is a good thing. but especially if they're, if they're not a part of the church at large, like the whole church body, and they're just attached to youth group and just attached to the leader. I just saw so many examples before I even got in youth ministry. And then those kids, the leader's gone, they're done with youth ministry and they're they're toast. know, they just kind of walk away. And so I guess it was really just on my heart to like, I don't want to see like that happen. And I know there's other intentional ways of working against that too. But that was just really like on my heart. Isaac (17:12.408) Yeah, yeah, I would. Here's I mean, Nick, you kind of set us up. You're like, haha, caught you. You're in a trap coming debate this. And so I'm going to I'm going to, you know, share. The perspective of everyone wins, I guess, because here's what I would rather see if this is a would you rather question of would you rather have one leader who intentionally disciples a student for one year or have a leader that walks alongside? Stephen Rose (17:20.83) But. Isaac (17:41.448) and invest in a student for seven years, I would say give me the one year intentionally disciple. Because so often we recruit leaders that they won't say, I'm just a babysitter. They're not going to say that. We're not going to say that. But if you're like, we're just hanging out, I'm going to their games and they're doing some good things, but they're not intentionally discipling, we're still missing out. And so I would say that the key thing for me is find the leader that's going to disciple. Stephen Rose (17:46.484) Yeah. Isaac (18:09.998) Which means that they are really getting in and saying do you know Jesus? What is he teaching you? Are you opening up the Word of God? Are you praying? Are you building a community around you? Where are you serving? How's your evangelism life? And they're really working out all of these disciplines And it's more than just let me show up to your play Let me high-five and we'll go get coffee together because you can just hang out But you're not just being friends. You're intentionally discipling so Nick Clason (18:25.51) . Stephen Rose (18:30.04) Right. Nick Clason (18:33.03) you Isaac (18:37.986) Give me the one year intentional disciple. Nick Clason (18:38.34) Yeah. Stephen Rose (18:39.572) Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Nick Clason (18:42.166) That's good. That's good for youth pastors. That's good for Like that's good for this whole conversation. Just like having like a well-rounded perspective of it. It's bad for Trying to elicit emotion and you guys like hating each other. So Way to be a Christian way to ruin YouTube, but no, I agree and Isaac (19:03.661) Yeah, yeah. And he's a Cavs fan. Yeah, this is great. We love each other. We're best friends now. Thank you, Nick. Stephen Rose (19:07.704) Hey, I know Nick Clason (19:09.51) Yeah, you're so welcome. Congratulations. Yeah. Well, let's do like your final statement, right? We'll just do a minute on the clock or less. Just give like your final word, kind of like put a bow on it. And then, yeah, then I guess we'll take it from there. So who went first last time? I think it was Isaac, right? So Steven, we'll have you minute on the clock, finalize your argument. You ready? All right, let's go. Stephen Rose (19:36.663) Yep. All right, so I believe that transitioning through different small groups is best for students because they get to build multiple relationships with adults, which helps them own their faith, not just the youth's faith or my faith or their leader's faith, but their faith in Jesus. And so I think it's best to move them through. And then I also, as a side note, I think it can create a spot for leaders to star in their roles where, hey, if I'm always with freshmen girls, then I'm gonna be able to really get good at welcoming them. Or if I'm always with the senior and junior guys, I'm gonna get really good at helping them through this transition as they get older, as their problems change. But they kinda are the same perpetually for new juniors, new seniors. And so they get to start starring in their roles as they get year after year of experience with them. Nick Clason (20:36.282) Nice, good job. All right, Isaac, one minute on the clock. Take it away. Isaac (20:43.66) Awesome. Quantity will produce quality. The more that you're hanging out with someone, the better the conversations. And so getting someone there for a length of time, it's just going to produce the quality that we're looking for. It avoids the six months, like, do I actually know this person? Can I make that inside joke? I accidentally said something about their parents or Stephen Rose (21:07.284) You you Isaac (21:12.498) Whatever all their life story the more opportunity that you have with their story the more that they can feel Fully known fully seen and fully loved which really I think just shows grace more discipleship more and and what Jesus was Really trying to aim for when he said this is what a disciple maker Nick Clason (21:38.15) Nice, strong work, both of you. youth ministry, youth pastor, youth group leadership, small group leaders, youth ministry leadership, youth pastor training, youth ministry strategy, small group ministry, youth group small groups, youth ministry tips, youth ministry leadership training, youth discipleship, youth ministry structure, small group leader training, youth ministry debate, youth pastor discussion, youth ministry philosophy, student ministry leadership, youth group leaders, church youth ministry, youth ministry best practices, student ministry small groups, nick clason, hybrid ministry Small Group Leaders are the life-blood of any good student ministry.

But what is our most effective strategy to deploy them? Is it to saddle a great leader with students for their entire careeer? Or is it rather to introduce students to great leaders along their journey?

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 The Same or Different Small Group Leaders
02:33 Meet Stephen
04:25 Meet Isaac
05:25 Students should keep the same leaders
08:02 Students should change to different leaders
10:08 What if a student doesnโ€™t like their leader?
11:56 What about Social Media?
13:05 How do you discern when to move a student?
16:21 How many leaders in each group?
20:08 The Ultimate Small Group Win
22:28 New Leader Every So Often Closing Statement
23:22 Same Leader Every So Often Closing Statement

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00.103)
All right, well here we are. I mean, this is about to get really, really like real now because we have two amazing youth pastors with two completely different points of view on what's best for small group student leadership. And so again, by random draw that you'll have to trust because I'm a youth pastor, so I get paid to tell the truth. Isaac was randomly drawn to give his first two minute argument. So.

Isaac (00:04.782)
Hmm.

Stephen Rose (00:12.276)
You

Nick Clason (00:29.009)
We're about to put two minutes on the clock. are you ready?

Isaac (00:33.026)
Yeah, and just just clarifying because I want to make sure we are talking about leaders walking with students like. Are is it better? Is it better for them to go each year with them or every year? Let's recycle. That's the main question.

Nick Clason (00:41.915)
during

Nick Clason (00:50.235)
That's the question at hand. Yeah, I mean, we won't get into like the pizza lock-in, like social media debate. Those are, you know, those are meaningful ones in youth ministry as well, but this one in particular, yes, that's what I'd like you to argue. I hope that you came prepared for that and not like your pro lock-in debate, cause it might not fit. Real quick here at chat GPT, real quick, give me new notes. All right, are we ready?

Isaac (00:52.526)
Let's go.

Isaac (00:58.254)
Hmm.

Stephen Rose (01:10.656)
Thank

Isaac (01:11.534)
I have to change all my notes right now.

Stephen Rose (01:17.876)
Thank

Isaac (01:18.178)
Yeah, yeah, give me new notes. All right, yep, let's go.

Nick Clason (01:21.776)
Two minutes on the clock, take it away.

Isaac (01:24.654)
All right, two minutes, here we go. The key word that I'm looking at is discipleship and what does discipleship really look like? And so, and this is something that I've been kind of studying and learning about in my 17 years of youth ministry. And so I've changed and I've morphed, but I keep leaning more towards, man, let's really walk alongside these students. Here's some examples from the Bible. Jesus, he's come down, he's like, let me really pray over who I'm really going to invest in.

because he had other people that were interested in following him, but he said, no, I'm really going to invest in these 12. And he did that for three years. And then you have Paul and his relationship with Timothy, and he's being able to say things like, hey, Timothy, your grandmother, and he's naming family members and stuff, which I just don't think that you can do that in a year's time of knowing someone that you really want to get into that. So discipleship really means relationship and knowing.

How does someone come in and they're fully known and fully loved? So when you're with them longer, you know the students, you know their parents, you know the deaths that happened in their family, you know what sports they're involved in, you know the injury that set them back a few years prior. And so when they confess this thing, you go, I know the meaning behind that because I've had this relationship with you for a while.

I guess my main question that I would ask is why don't we go in and hire a new youth pastor every one year? You want a youth pastor to be there and and longevity breeds just this this trust that's that parents now have and I feel like as a youth pastor I'm trying to equip other leaders to come in and essentially be youth pastors And so I don't want to hire new youth pastors every year because I want that trust

and that relationship and that discipleship to happen. And that can only happen over a stretch of time and not hitting the reset button every single year.

Nick Clason (03:27.12)
Wow, did you rehearse that?

Isaac (03:31.49)
No.

Nick Clason (03:32.39)
Strong work, my man. Strong work. Alright, Steven. It's been laid down. Like, the challenge has been issued. Are you ready?

Stephen Rose (03:32.788)
Thank

Stephen Rose (03:42.404)
Yes, yes, I'm ready.

Nick Clason (03:43.354)
All right, and the microphone's working and the internet is streaming and yeah, yeah. All right, sweet. All right, bro, two minutes on the clock for you, Steven. Your side is you think that it's useful for students to have a variety of leaders year in, year out, or every so often. So, my friend, take it away.

Stephen Rose (03:46.548)
Internet's not crashing out right now.

Stephen Rose (04:07.504)
Awesome. Yeah, I love what you said about discipleship. Couldn't agree more. And for me, one of the things I think is so important and what we really focus on in my context is helping students own their faith by the time they graduate. And there's been like some studies done where the more, not like infinitely, but the more adults, specifically the number was around five. If you have five good relationships.

with adults who are like spiritual mentors or people that you know on at least a relatively deeper level, then you're much more likely to stick with a faith post-graduation. And I would argue that the reason for that is because their faith is hopefully being more grounded in Jesus than a specific leader. And they're rooted in Jesus. He is their firm foundation, not like an awesome leader or the youth pastor or something like that.

And so when you move, not necessarily every year, but every so often, you're just more likely to build relationships with more adults. And I view that as a huge win. And so what I like to see is them build relationships, be really intentional in the year or the two years span that they're with that leader, and then really focus on the transition so they can then build a new relationship.

with new leaders and the students stay together. So they're able to keep building those long-term relationships where they can grow alongside of each other. But the leaders can shift as far as small group goes. But the long-term relationships still stay the same. Just like a small group leader that I had when I was in eighth grade, I still got to talk to them later in later years and they still knew me and they still could pour into me and disciple me. And so the process

can keep happening even though we're still looking towards helping them meet more people and grow closer relationships with more people.

Nick Clason (06:13.38)
Right on time, my man, both of you. This might be the first time two youth pastors hit their time mark right when they're supposed to. That's crazy. All right, so what we'll do now, guess, I like this. I think we're gonna go to a more open forum, all right? So let's do two minutes, but here's the thing, just so you guys know.

Stephen Rose (06:20.041)
Hehehehehe

Nick Clason (06:40.804)
I don't need to include the clock. like if it's good and free flowing, like I'm just not going to interrupt it. Like don't, don't worry about it. I'm just trying to keep things moving and make it not be like a, you know, long and boring episode. so I'll put this on, but why don't you, why don't you guys ask some clarifying questions just like back and forth and just like answer, ask, answer, ask, answer. and then, when, when we feel satisfied with that, we'll, we'll move on to the like closing testimony or whatever, whatever they call it in the courtroom.

Stephen Rose (06:51.316)
Thank

Nick Clason (07:10.758)
I don't watch enough court TV. So, does anyone have like a question to start? Like to ask the other person? All right, great. You go first then.

Stephen Rose (07:11.092)
Sounds good.

Isaac (07:12.627)
Okay.

Stephen Rose (07:19.216)
Yeah, yeah I do.

Perfect. So Isaac, wonder in your context, if a student doesn't get, like we'll just say student doesn't get along great with a certain leader. What does that look like? Like do you go about that?

Isaac (07:40.396)
Yeah, man, that's great. Context, I think, matters a lot. So I've worked in a small church, a medium church, and a large church. So let's just talk about the numbers that I have here. It's weird to talk about that in church culture, but that helps context so much. So I have about 160 leaders. And in that, have, for sixth grade boys, we have five sixth grade boy groups.

Stephen Rose (07:45.246)
I agree.

Stephen Rose (07:55.732)
for sure.

Isaac (08:07.854)
And then each one of those groups has four leaders. And so I think that that helps so much for the person watching right now. They're like, well, this might make sense because of this. And the dynamics can shift because for you saying, hey, does a sixth grade boy, if he's if he's not enjoying this, then what? Well, he he can move to another group. He can go to one of the other four options. And that's easy. Now, when I was at a church for six and a half years and it was like

Stephen Rose (08:08.049)
Mm-hmm.

Stephen Rose (08:27.252)
Uh-huh.

Stephen Rose (08:30.675)
Right.

Isaac (08:37.59)
You have middle school boys, high school boys, middle school girls, high school girls. That's your option. Then it's like, well, what do we do when they don't like that person? And so for us in our context, it makes sense of if there's not someone getting along, there is another option in another group that they can go to.

Stephen Rose (08:44.444)
Right. I'm

Stephen Rose (08:58.772)
Sure. and

Nick Clason (09:00.39)
How do you guys, either of you, discern this is not a good fit and we need to quote unquote rescue the student from the fit? Or this is an opportunity to lean in and disciple the student to push through something more difficult and maybe getting along with their leader is like what God has for them in this season of their spiritual growth. Like how do you discern between those two? Because I feel like

Like a parent can come to you like they hate their leader and you want to like solve that so so that the kid doesn't get mad or the family doesn't leave the church or whatever. But I think sometimes it's like, dude, you need to stop being so entitled. You know what I mean? How do you how do know?

Stephen Rose (09:43.219)
Yeah, that's really good. For me, I tend toward having them stay either way because I don't want for students just to pick a leader based off of, I love this leader. I can't stand that leader, which by the way, my team is awesome. I have awesome leaders, all that. And so it's really a side point. But of course, if there was

if it was like coming to an unhealthy place, then I would say I'd be more willing to like figure it out. Especially if it was like a newer student, you know, who maybe isn't even a follower of Jesus yet. And okay, I'm trying to help them get comfortable first, help them feel accepted and have a good experience. And so that'd be a little different if it's someone I've been walking with for a while. And then, hey, it's time for you to grow up and, you know, and be...

be mature about this and grow in your maturity. I part of that is definitely not being in your favorite spot at all times.

Isaac (10:46.552)
Yeah, that's good. I think that, you know, scripture says if at all possible as far as it depends on you, live at peace with with everyone. And if there's some kind of disunity there, obviously that's what the enemy is trying to seek out and bring to light is some kind of disunity. So it's our jobs as the shepherds of that to say, well, what's causing this? And so it should start with a conversation with both student and leader and saying,

Nick Clason (10:46.587)
Good.

Stephen Rose (10:56.372)
Mm.

Isaac (11:14.926)
Why? Why is there a disunity and how can we go towards unity? What's the conversation? Maybe you just need to say some things. Let's get it out on the table. Truth is gonna be great. Let's get it out on the table. But if it becomes a thing where it's like, we're not coming here. My kid doesn't wanna show up. I'm even pro, well, there's also another church in town because...

Stephen Rose (11:29.78)
Yeah.

Isaac (11:42.742)
The gospel doesn't just happen at this address. It happens in lot of places in discipleship. And so hopefully I am then connecting with other youth pastors in the area where I can then give a trusted, hey, why don't you go over here to this church? Because this youth pastor is also going to teach the Bible. Discipleship is also happening. But I'm not nervous to, I don't want to say threatened. It's not threatened, but to give, go ahead. If you can't grow here.

Ultimately, what we are concerned about for you as a student is your growth. Go grow anywhere.

Stephen Rose (12:14.045)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:17.776)
Good.

Stephen Rose (12:18.238)
That's good.

Isaac (12:19.83)
Steven, got a question for you if I'm allowed to ask. Yeah, because I love what you said about having five good relationships with adults. Yes, man, let's try to, as youth pastors, bring in as many adults and as many leaders as possible in their time of being there. What does it look like in your context for how many leaders do you have in each group? Yeah, what does that look like for you?

Stephen Rose (12:21.982)
Sure.

Nick Clason (12:22.638)
Yes, yes, go.

Stephen Rose (12:39.718)
.

Stephen Rose (12:47.234)
Yeah, we have two leaders in each group. so, over time, would naturally develop relationships with multiple, I mean, hopefully, in prayerfully, you would develop relationships with your small group leaders in that time. And for us, we're, I guess, the medium church size. And so,

Like for high school, for example, we have two high school guys groups, underclassmen and upperclassmen currently. And so you would meet four of the people right then and there. And then hopefully, like even like myself and some other people, because certainly our youth ministry is not the only context which you can have a relationship with an adult. But as far as what we're trying to do, it fits that mold pretty well.

Isaac (13:30.51)
Sure, yeah.

Isaac (13:38.978)
Yeah, so when you say upperclassmen leader and, what is it called? Underclassmen? That just sounded weird. Underclassmen? That just sounds underwear. Anyhow, when you have both of the, so the upperclassmen, are you saying then that those two leaders are with them for two years?

Stephen Rose (13:46.608)
under underclassmen.

Stephen Rose (13:58.579)
Yes.

Isaac (13:59.648)
Okay, so it's kind of like a hybrid then of it's not, I'm not thinking every year it's I'm still kind of building this. I'm in this context. So it's still once because for me, I don't even know if I'm pro you should be with them for seven years. I do like the for me, three years of middle school, you get a new high school leader, because there's just a difference between high school and middle school.

Stephen Rose (14:16.923)
Mm-hmm, right.

Nick Clason (14:16.966)
Mm-hmm.

Stephen Rose (14:22.587)
Thank

Stephen Rose (14:27.586)
Right.

Isaac (14:27.84)
If there is someone that's committed for seven years, my hope is that they are bringing in dads, moms, and other people to it. Because I think that what you said is key. They need to have five adults in their life or more that where they can say, it's not just one person that believes this. It's not just their characteristics, but that in discipleship, they are inviting others to be a part of it as well. If you're going to do that seven year plan. Yeah.

Stephen Rose (14:32.35)
Thank you.

Stephen Rose (14:37.765)
So.

Right.

Stephen Rose (14:46.388)
you

Yes. Right.

Nick Clason (14:57.05)
Yeah, yeah. And I'll just say from a youth pastor logistical standpoint, you get someone to commit for seven years, that's amazing. Are they still committed to loop back down and start a sixth grade group? Going from being a 12th grade leader to a sixth grade leader is tough. And so I've been in situations where they're committed all the way through, but then I'm always having to recruit.

Stephen Rose (15:17.416)
Hey.

Nick Clason (15:24.462)
at the entry point because no one wants to loop back down. They feel like they've quote unquote done their time and they want to be involved in student ministry, but then they want to be involved in more of like a consulting role or a coaching role. And it's like, I love that for you, but I really could use a sixth grade leader, my friend. And so that's been, that's been my experience when they loop all the way through as we, we pool all the way down at the end of the quote unquote conveyor belt, if you will. And I got some really great leaders who aren't doing ministry anymore, but if you're doing

Stephen Rose (15:30.42)
That's how you do it. Okay.

Stephen Rose (15:53.716)
What am I? You just answered about the full seven years or if it's more of a middle school to high school, because I'm I agree. I'm a little less.

Nick Clason (15:54.694)
Like if you're like, yo, you're the underclassmen leader and you're just going to be an expert in ninth and 10th grade. Like, and then you'll see every kid's face, hopefully as they, as they loop through. Um, it's just, it's just the way I think about it.

Isaac (16:08.684)
Yeah, I love that. Steven, did you have any other questions?

Stephen Rose (16:23.832)
cause I can see there's definitely real positives in doing both ways. And, but the seven years is the one where I really, I don't want to say worry, but for lack of a better word, worry about like a students attaching to a certain leader and, that, is a good thing. but especially if they're, if they're not a part of the church at large, like the whole church body, and they're just attached to youth group and just attached to the leader. I just saw so many examples before I even got in youth ministry.

And then those kids, the leader's gone, they're done with youth ministry and they're they're toast. know, they just kind of walk away. And so I guess it was really just on my heart to like, I don't want to see like that happen. And I know there's other intentional ways of working against that too. But that was just really like on my heart.

Isaac (17:12.408)
Yeah, yeah, I would. Here's I mean, Nick, you kind of set us up. You're like, haha, caught you. You're in a trap coming debate this. And so I'm going to I'm going to, you know, share. The perspective of everyone wins, I guess, because here's what I would rather see if this is a would you rather question of would you rather have one leader who intentionally disciples a student for one year or have a leader that walks alongside?

Stephen Rose (17:20.83)
But.

Isaac (17:41.448)
and invest in a student for seven years, I would say give me the one year intentionally disciple. Because so often we recruit leaders that they won't say, I'm just a babysitter. They're not going to say that. We're not going to say that. But if you're like, we're just hanging out, I'm going to their games and they're doing some good things, but they're not intentionally discipling, we're still missing out. And so I would say that the key thing for me is find the leader that's going to disciple.

Stephen Rose (17:46.484)
Yeah.

Isaac (18:09.998)
Which means that they are really getting in and saying do you know Jesus? What is he teaching you? Are you opening up the Word of God? Are you praying? Are you building a community around you? Where are you serving? How's your evangelism life? And they're really working out all of these disciplines And it's more than just let me show up to your play Let me high-five and we'll go get coffee together because you can just hang out But you're not just being friends. You're intentionally discipling so

Nick Clason (18:25.51)
.

Stephen Rose (18:30.04)
Right.

Nick Clason (18:33.03)
you

Isaac (18:37.986)
Give me the one year intentional disciple.

Nick Clason (18:38.34)
Yeah.

Stephen Rose (18:39.572)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Nick Clason (18:42.166)
That's good. That's good for youth pastors. That's good for Like that's good for this whole conversation. Just like having like a well-rounded perspective of it. It's bad for Trying to elicit emotion and you guys like hating each other. So Way to be a Christian way to ruin YouTube, but no, I agree and

Isaac (19:03.661)
Yeah, yeah. And he's a Cavs fan. Yeah, this is great. We love each other. We're best friends now. Thank you, Nick.

Stephen Rose (19:07.704)
Hey, I know

Nick Clason (19:09.51)
Yeah, you're so welcome. Congratulations. Yeah. Well, let's do like your final statement, right? We'll just do a minute on the clock or less. Just give like your final word, kind of like put a bow on it. And then, yeah, then I guess we'll take it from there. So who went first last time? I think it was Isaac, right? So Steven, we'll have you minute on the clock, finalize your argument. You ready? All right, let's go.

Stephen Rose (19:36.663)
Yep.

All right, so I believe that transitioning through different small groups is best for students because they get to build multiple relationships with adults, which helps them own their faith, not just the youth's faith or my faith or their leader's faith, but their faith in Jesus. And so I think it's best to move them through. And then I also, as a side note, I think it can create a spot for leaders to star in their roles where, hey, if I'm always with freshmen girls,

then I'm gonna be able to really get good at welcoming them. Or if I'm always with the senior and junior guys, I'm gonna get really good at helping them through this transition as they get older, as their problems change. But they kinda are the same perpetually for new juniors, new seniors. And so they get to start starring in their roles as they get year after year of experience with them.

Nick Clason (20:36.282)
Nice, good job. All right, Isaac, one minute on the clock. Take it away.

Isaac (20:43.66)
Awesome. Quantity will produce quality. The more that you're hanging out with someone, the better the conversations. And so getting someone there for a length of time, it's just going to produce the quality that we're looking for. It avoids the six months, like, do I actually know this person? Can I make that inside joke? I accidentally said something about their parents or

Stephen Rose (21:07.284)
You you

Isaac (21:12.498)
Whatever all their life story the more opportunity that you have with their story the more that they can feel Fully known fully seen and fully loved which really I think just shows grace more discipleship more and and what Jesus was Really trying to aim for when he said this is what a disciple maker

Nick Clason (21:38.15)
Nice, strong work, both of you.

]]> Small Group Leaders are the life-blood of any good student ministry.

But what is our most effective strategy to deploy them? Is it to saddle a great leader with students for their entire careeer? Or is it rather to introduce students to great leaders along their journey?

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 The Same or Different Small Group Leaders
02:33 Meet Stephen
04:25 Meet Isaac
05:25 Students should keep the same leaders
08:02 Students should change to different leaders
10:08 What if a student doesnโ€™t like their leader?
11:56 What about Social Media?
13:05 How do you discern when to move a student?
16:21 How many leaders in each group?
20:08 The Ultimate Small Group Win
22:28 New Leader Every So Often Closing Statement
23:22 Same Leader Every So Often Closing Statement

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00.103)
All right, well here we are. I mean, this is about to get really, really like real now because we have two amazing youth pastors with two completely different points of view on what's best for small group student leadership. And so again, by random draw that you'll have to trust because I'm a youth pastor, so I get paid to tell the truth. Isaac was randomly drawn to give his first two minute argument. So.

Isaac (00:04.782)
Hmm.

Stephen Rose (00:12.276)
You

Nick Clason (00:29.009)
We're about to put two minutes on the clock. are you ready?

Isaac (00:33.026)
Yeah, and just just clarifying because I want to make sure we are talking about leaders walking with students like. Are is it better? Is it better for them to go each year with them or every year? Let's recycle. That's the main question.

Nick Clason (00:41.915)
during

Nick Clason (00:50.235)
That's the question at hand. Yeah, I mean, we won't get into like the pizza lock-in, like social media debate. Those are, you know, those are meaningful ones in youth ministry as well, but this one in particular, yes, that's what I'd like you to argue. I hope that you came prepared for that and not like your pro lock-in debate, cause it might not fit. Real quick here at chat GPT, real quick, give me new notes. All right, are we ready?

Isaac (00:52.526)
Let's go.

Isaac (00:58.254)
Hmm.

Stephen Rose (01:10.656)
Thank

Isaac (01:11.534)
I have to change all my notes right now.

Stephen Rose (01:17.876)
Thank

Isaac (01:18.178)
Yeah, yeah, give me new notes. All right, yep, let's go.

Nick Clason (01:21.776)
Two minutes on the clock, take it away.

Isaac (01:24.654)
All right, two minutes, here we go. The key word that I'm looking at is discipleship and what does discipleship really look like? And so, and this is something that I've been kind of studying and learning about in my 17 years of youth ministry. And so I've changed and I've morphed, but I keep leaning more towards, man, let's really walk alongside these students. Here's some examples from the Bible. Jesus, he's come down, he's like, let me really pray over who I'm really going to invest in.

because he had other people that were interested in following him, but he said, no, I'm really going to invest in these 12. And he did that for three years. And then you have Paul and his relationship with Timothy, and he's being able to say things like, hey, Timothy, your grandmother, and he's naming family members and stuff, which I just don't think that you can do that in a year's time of knowing someone that you really want to get into that. So discipleship really means relationship and knowing.

How does someone come in and they're fully known and fully loved? So when you're with them longer, you know the students, you know their parents, you know the deaths that happened in their family, you know what sports they're involved in, you know the injury that set them back a few years prior. And so when they confess this thing, you go, I know the meaning behind that because I've had this relationship with you for a while.

I guess my main question that I would ask is why don't we go in and hire a new youth pastor every one year? You want a youth pastor to be there and and longevity breeds just this this trust that's that parents now have and I feel like as a youth pastor I'm trying to equip other leaders to come in and essentially be youth pastors And so I don't want to hire new youth pastors every year because I want that trust

and that relationship and that discipleship to happen. And that can only happen over a stretch of time and not hitting the reset button every single year.

Nick Clason (03:27.12)
Wow, did you rehearse that?

Isaac (03:31.49)
No.

Nick Clason (03:32.39)
Strong work, my man. Strong work. Alright, Steven. It's been laid down. Like, the challenge has been issued. Are you ready?

Stephen Rose (03:32.788)
Thank

Stephen Rose (03:42.404)
Yes, yes, I'm ready.

Nick Clason (03:43.354)
All right, and the microphone's working and the internet is streaming and yeah, yeah. All right, sweet. All right, bro, two minutes on the clock for you, Steven. Your side is you think that it's useful for students to have a variety of leaders year in, year out, or every so often. So, my friend, take it away.

Stephen Rose (03:46.548)
Internet's not crashing out right now.

Stephen Rose (04:07.504)
Awesome. Yeah, I love what you said about discipleship. Couldn't agree more. And for me, one of the things I think is so important and what we really focus on in my context is helping students own their faith by the time they graduate. And there's been like some studies done where the more, not like infinitely, but the more adults, specifically the number was around five. If you have five good relationships.

with adults who are like spiritual mentors or people that you know on at least a relatively deeper level, then you're much more likely to stick with a faith post-graduation. And I would argue that the reason for that is because their faith is hopefully being more grounded in Jesus than a specific leader. And they're rooted in Jesus. He is their firm foundation, not like an awesome leader or the youth pastor or something like that.

And so when you move, not necessarily every year, but every so often, you're just more likely to build relationships with more adults. And I view that as a huge win. And so what I like to see is them build relationships, be really intentional in the year or the two years span that they're with that leader, and then really focus on the transition so they can then build a new relationship.

with new leaders and the students stay together. So they're able to keep building those long-term relationships where they can grow alongside of each other. But the leaders can shift as far as small group goes. But the long-term relationships still stay the same. Just like a small group leader that I had when I was in eighth grade, I still got to talk to them later in later years and they still knew me and they still could pour into me and disciple me. And so the process

can keep happening even though we're still looking towards helping them meet more people and grow closer relationships with more people.

Nick Clason (06:13.38)
Right on time, my man, both of you. This might be the first time two youth pastors hit their time mark right when they're supposed to. That's crazy. All right, so what we'll do now, guess, I like this. I think we're gonna go to a more open forum, all right? So let's do two minutes, but here's the thing, just so you guys know.

Stephen Rose (06:20.041)
Hehehehehe

Nick Clason (06:40.804)
I don't need to include the clock. like if it's good and free flowing, like I'm just not going to interrupt it. Like don't, don't worry about it. I'm just trying to keep things moving and make it not be like a, you know, long and boring episode. so I'll put this on, but why don't you, why don't you guys ask some clarifying questions just like back and forth and just like answer, ask, answer, ask, answer. and then, when, when we feel satisfied with that, we'll, we'll move on to the like closing testimony or whatever, whatever they call it in the courtroom.

Stephen Rose (06:51.316)
Thank

Nick Clason (07:10.758)
I don't watch enough court TV. So, does anyone have like a question to start? Like to ask the other person? All right, great. You go first then.

Stephen Rose (07:11.092)
Sounds good.

Isaac (07:12.627)
Okay.

Stephen Rose (07:19.216)
Yeah, yeah I do.

Perfect. So Isaac, wonder in your context, if a student doesn't get, like we'll just say student doesn't get along great with a certain leader. What does that look like? Like do you go about that?

Isaac (07:40.396)
Yeah, man, that's great. Context, I think, matters a lot. So I've worked in a small church, a medium church, and a large church. So let's just talk about the numbers that I have here. It's weird to talk about that in church culture, but that helps context so much. So I have about 160 leaders. And in that, have, for sixth grade boys, we have five sixth grade boy groups.

Stephen Rose (07:45.246)
I agree.

Stephen Rose (07:55.732)
for sure.

Isaac (08:07.854)
And then each one of those groups has four leaders. And so I think that that helps so much for the person watching right now. They're like, well, this might make sense because of this. And the dynamics can shift because for you saying, hey, does a sixth grade boy, if he's if he's not enjoying this, then what? Well, he he can move to another group. He can go to one of the other four options. And that's easy. Now, when I was at a church for six and a half years and it was like

Stephen Rose (08:08.049)
Mm-hmm.

Stephen Rose (08:27.252)
Uh-huh.

Stephen Rose (08:30.675)
Right.

Isaac (08:37.59)
You have middle school boys, high school boys, middle school girls, high school girls. That's your option. Then it's like, well, what do we do when they don't like that person? And so for us in our context, it makes sense of if there's not someone getting along, there is another option in another group that they can go to.

Stephen Rose (08:44.444)
Right. I'm

Stephen Rose (08:58.772)
Sure. and

Nick Clason (09:00.39)
How do you guys, either of you, discern this is not a good fit and we need to quote unquote rescue the student from the fit? Or this is an opportunity to lean in and disciple the student to push through something more difficult and maybe getting along with their leader is like what God has for them in this season of their spiritual growth. Like how do you discern between those two? Because I feel like

Like a parent can come to you like they hate their leader and you want to like solve that so so that the kid doesn't get mad or the family doesn't leave the church or whatever. But I think sometimes it's like, dude, you need to stop being so entitled. You know what I mean? How do you how do know?

Stephen Rose (09:43.219)
Yeah, that's really good. For me, I tend toward having them stay either way because I don't want for students just to pick a leader based off of, I love this leader. I can't stand that leader, which by the way, my team is awesome. I have awesome leaders, all that. And so it's really a side point. But of course, if there was

if it was like coming to an unhealthy place, then I would say I'd be more willing to like figure it out. Especially if it was like a newer student, you know, who maybe isn't even a follower of Jesus yet. And okay, I'm trying to help them get comfortable first, help them feel accepted and have a good experience. And so that'd be a little different if it's someone I've been walking with for a while. And then, hey, it's time for you to grow up and, you know, and be...

be mature about this and grow in your maturity. I part of that is definitely not being in your favorite spot at all times.

Isaac (10:46.552)
Yeah, that's good. I think that, you know, scripture says if at all possible as far as it depends on you, live at peace with with everyone. And if there's some kind of disunity there, obviously that's what the enemy is trying to seek out and bring to light is some kind of disunity. So it's our jobs as the shepherds of that to say, well, what's causing this? And so it should start with a conversation with both student and leader and saying,

Nick Clason (10:46.587)
Good.

Stephen Rose (10:56.372)
Mm.

Isaac (11:14.926)
Why? Why is there a disunity and how can we go towards unity? What's the conversation? Maybe you just need to say some things. Let's get it out on the table. Truth is gonna be great. Let's get it out on the table. But if it becomes a thing where it's like, we're not coming here. My kid doesn't wanna show up. I'm even pro, well, there's also another church in town because...

Stephen Rose (11:29.78)
Yeah.

Isaac (11:42.742)
The gospel doesn't just happen at this address. It happens in lot of places in discipleship. And so hopefully I am then connecting with other youth pastors in the area where I can then give a trusted, hey, why don't you go over here to this church? Because this youth pastor is also going to teach the Bible. Discipleship is also happening. But I'm not nervous to, I don't want to say threatened. It's not threatened, but to give, go ahead. If you can't grow here.

Ultimately, what we are concerned about for you as a student is your growth. Go grow anywhere.

Stephen Rose (12:14.045)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:17.776)
Good.

Stephen Rose (12:18.238)
That's good.

Isaac (12:19.83)
Steven, got a question for you if I'm allowed to ask. Yeah, because I love what you said about having five good relationships with adults. Yes, man, let's try to, as youth pastors, bring in as many adults and as many leaders as possible in their time of being there. What does it look like in your context for how many leaders do you have in each group? Yeah, what does that look like for you?

Stephen Rose (12:21.982)
Sure.

Nick Clason (12:22.638)
Yes, yes, go.

Stephen Rose (12:39.718)
.

Stephen Rose (12:47.234)
Yeah, we have two leaders in each group. so, over time, would naturally develop relationships with multiple, I mean, hopefully, in prayerfully, you would develop relationships with your small group leaders in that time. And for us, we're, I guess, the medium church size. And so,

Like for high school, for example, we have two high school guys groups, underclassmen and upperclassmen currently. And so you would meet four of the people right then and there. And then hopefully, like even like myself and some other people, because certainly our youth ministry is not the only context which you can have a relationship with an adult. But as far as what we're trying to do, it fits that mold pretty well.

Isaac (13:30.51)
Sure, yeah.

Isaac (13:38.978)
Yeah, so when you say upperclassmen leader and, what is it called? Underclassmen? That just sounded weird. Underclassmen? That just sounds underwear. Anyhow, when you have both of the, so the upperclassmen, are you saying then that those two leaders are with them for two years?

Stephen Rose (13:46.608)
under underclassmen.

Stephen Rose (13:58.579)
Yes.

Isaac (13:59.648)
Okay, so it's kind of like a hybrid then of it's not, I'm not thinking every year it's I'm still kind of building this. I'm in this context. So it's still once because for me, I don't even know if I'm pro you should be with them for seven years. I do like the for me, three years of middle school, you get a new high school leader, because there's just a difference between high school and middle school.

Stephen Rose (14:16.923)
Mm-hmm, right.

Nick Clason (14:16.966)
Mm-hmm.

Stephen Rose (14:22.587)
Thank

Stephen Rose (14:27.586)
Right.

Isaac (14:27.84)
If there is someone that's committed for seven years, my hope is that they are bringing in dads, moms, and other people to it. Because I think that what you said is key. They need to have five adults in their life or more that where they can say, it's not just one person that believes this. It's not just their characteristics, but that in discipleship, they are inviting others to be a part of it as well. If you're going to do that seven year plan. Yeah.

Stephen Rose (14:32.35)
Thank you.

Stephen Rose (14:37.765)
So.

Right.

Stephen Rose (14:46.388)
you

Yes. Right.

Nick Clason (14:57.05)
Yeah, yeah. And I'll just say from a youth pastor logistical standpoint, you get someone to commit for seven years, that's amazing. Are they still committed to loop back down and start a sixth grade group? Going from being a 12th grade leader to a sixth grade leader is tough. And so I've been in situations where they're committed all the way through, but then I'm always having to recruit.

Stephen Rose (15:17.416)
Hey.

Nick Clason (15:24.462)
at the entry point because no one wants to loop back down. They feel like they've quote unquote done their time and they want to be involved in student ministry, but then they want to be involved in more of like a consulting role or a coaching role. And it's like, I love that for you, but I really could use a sixth grade leader, my friend. And so that's been, that's been my experience when they loop all the way through as we, we pool all the way down at the end of the quote unquote conveyor belt, if you will. And I got some really great leaders who aren't doing ministry anymore, but if you're doing

Stephen Rose (15:30.42)
That's how you do it. Okay.

Stephen Rose (15:53.716)
What am I? You just answered about the full seven years or if it's more of a middle school to high school, because I'm I agree. I'm a little less.

Nick Clason (15:54.694)
Like if you're like, yo, you're the underclassmen leader and you're just going to be an expert in ninth and 10th grade. Like, and then you'll see every kid's face, hopefully as they, as they loop through. Um, it's just, it's just the way I think about it.

Isaac (16:08.684)
Yeah, I love that. Steven, did you have any other questions?

Stephen Rose (16:23.832)
cause I can see there's definitely real positives in doing both ways. And, but the seven years is the one where I really, I don't want to say worry, but for lack of a better word, worry about like a students attaching to a certain leader and, that, is a good thing. but especially if they're, if they're not a part of the church at large, like the whole church body, and they're just attached to youth group and just attached to the leader. I just saw so many examples before I even got in youth ministry.

And then those kids, the leader's gone, they're done with youth ministry and they're they're toast. know, they just kind of walk away. And so I guess it was really just on my heart to like, I don't want to see like that happen. And I know there's other intentional ways of working against that too. But that was just really like on my heart.

Isaac (17:12.408)
Yeah, yeah, I would. Here's I mean, Nick, you kind of set us up. You're like, haha, caught you. You're in a trap coming debate this. And so I'm going to I'm going to, you know, share. The perspective of everyone wins, I guess, because here's what I would rather see if this is a would you rather question of would you rather have one leader who intentionally disciples a student for one year or have a leader that walks alongside?

Stephen Rose (17:20.83)
But.

Isaac (17:41.448)
and invest in a student for seven years, I would say give me the one year intentionally disciple. Because so often we recruit leaders that they won't say, I'm just a babysitter. They're not going to say that. We're not going to say that. But if you're like, we're just hanging out, I'm going to their games and they're doing some good things, but they're not intentionally discipling, we're still missing out. And so I would say that the key thing for me is find the leader that's going to disciple.

Stephen Rose (17:46.484)
Yeah.

Isaac (18:09.998)
Which means that they are really getting in and saying do you know Jesus? What is he teaching you? Are you opening up the Word of God? Are you praying? Are you building a community around you? Where are you serving? How's your evangelism life? And they're really working out all of these disciplines And it's more than just let me show up to your play Let me high-five and we'll go get coffee together because you can just hang out But you're not just being friends. You're intentionally discipling so

Nick Clason (18:25.51)
.

Stephen Rose (18:30.04)
Right.

Nick Clason (18:33.03)
you

Isaac (18:37.986)
Give me the one year intentional disciple.

Nick Clason (18:38.34)
Yeah.

Stephen Rose (18:39.572)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Nick Clason (18:42.166)
That's good. That's good for youth pastors. That's good for Like that's good for this whole conversation. Just like having like a well-rounded perspective of it. It's bad for Trying to elicit emotion and you guys like hating each other. So Way to be a Christian way to ruin YouTube, but no, I agree and

Isaac (19:03.661)
Yeah, yeah. And he's a Cavs fan. Yeah, this is great. We love each other. We're best friends now. Thank you, Nick.

Stephen Rose (19:07.704)
Hey, I know

Nick Clason (19:09.51)
Yeah, you're so welcome. Congratulations. Yeah. Well, let's do like your final statement, right? We'll just do a minute on the clock or less. Just give like your final word, kind of like put a bow on it. And then, yeah, then I guess we'll take it from there. So who went first last time? I think it was Isaac, right? So Steven, we'll have you minute on the clock, finalize your argument. You ready? All right, let's go.

Stephen Rose (19:36.663)
Yep.

All right, so I believe that transitioning through different small groups is best for students because they get to build multiple relationships with adults, which helps them own their faith, not just the youth's faith or my faith or their leader's faith, but their faith in Jesus. And so I think it's best to move them through. And then I also, as a side note, I think it can create a spot for leaders to star in their roles where, hey, if I'm always with freshmen girls,

then I'm gonna be able to really get good at welcoming them. Or if I'm always with the senior and junior guys, I'm gonna get really good at helping them through this transition as they get older, as their problems change. But they kinda are the same perpetually for new juniors, new seniors. And so they get to start starring in their roles as they get year after year of experience with them.

Nick Clason (20:36.282)
Nice, good job. All right, Isaac, one minute on the clock. Take it away.

Isaac (20:43.66)
Awesome. Quantity will produce quality. The more that you're hanging out with someone, the better the conversations. And so getting someone there for a length of time, it's just going to produce the quality that we're looking for. It avoids the six months, like, do I actually know this person? Can I make that inside joke? I accidentally said something about their parents or

Stephen Rose (21:07.284)
You you

Isaac (21:12.498)
Whatever all their life story the more opportunity that you have with their story the more that they can feel Fully known fully seen and fully loved which really I think just shows grace more discipleship more and and what Jesus was Really trying to aim for when he said this is what a disciple maker

Nick Clason (21:38.15)
Nice, strong work, both of you.

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If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that's actually happened in my life. 00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let's be honest. There's always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him. 00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn't feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership. 00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you're our number one choice. You're our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development. 00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn't be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong. 00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I've learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let's dive in to the first leadership mistake. 00;02;30;05 - 00;02;53;27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here's what I thought. I thought I'm the boss. I'm the supervisor. I'm the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do. 00;02;53;29 - 00;03;14;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don't get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference. 00;03;14;11 - 00;03;39;26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn't that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out. 00;03;39;26 - 00;04;01;25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had. 00;04;01;28 - 00;04;18;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day. 00;04;18;02 - 00;04;38;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'm not a big meeting guy like I don't, I don't mind them, but they don't bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I've learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time. 00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the advice I would give if you've never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I'm not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I've learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time. 00;05;03;03 - 00;05;30;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Especially when you're in a situation like I'm in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don't get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you. 00;05;30;02 - 00;05;55;12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The choice is yours. But that's one of the things I've had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can't communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying. 00;05;55;15 - 00;06;20;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But what I've learned is that people can't actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I've said words doesn't mean that they're understanding it. The exact same way that I'm thinking that they're understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media. 00;06;20;05 - 00;06;45;09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can check out the link down below if you're interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren't enough. 00;06;45;11 - 00;07;04;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there's more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here's why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things. 00;07;04;06 - 00;07;24;13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn't think it was that big of a deal, or they didn't listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be. 00;07;24;15 - 00;07;42;10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or when I said, hey, let's get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that's just not going to cut it. It's not fast enough. 00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And there's a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn't keeping up. 00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What I've learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I've communicated 100% of it, I've maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He's, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time. 00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I'd write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you. 00;08;44;01 - 00;09;06;09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an Enneagram one. Don't expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry. 00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And here's what I thought. I thought, I'm going to step into this new role, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. And while I'm doing what I'm doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager. 00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who's in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we're, pulling together in our student ministry. 00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I'm doing here is managing these people. They're the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground. 00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it. 00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line. 00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And when they're having a tough time getting across the finish line, they're having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn't. I was feeling like I wasn't successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing. 00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don't mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don't get to do as much. 00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here's the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It's a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week. 00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'd love for you to take a look at it. There's a seven day free trial link down below. It's called Hybrid Heroes. It's part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money. 00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It costs money to other people, but it's free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It's $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't have enough money for that. 00;12;40;19 - 00;13;00;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that's what I did. And I'm just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing. 00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I've been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn't happen when you're coasting, right? 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Six months into leading this

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team, I realized

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something uncomfortable.

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You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you're good at leading people.

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In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I've made in my first

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six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.

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Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.

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Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that's actually happened in my life.

00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27
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And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let's be honest. There's always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.

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And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn't feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.

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Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you're our number one choice. You're our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.

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And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn't be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.

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Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I've learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let's dive in to the first leadership mistake.

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So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here's what I thought. I thought I'm the boss. I'm the supervisor. I'm the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.

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But here's what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don't get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.

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But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn't that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.

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I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.

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We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.

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And I'm not a big meeting guy like I don't, I don't mind them, but they don't bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I've learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.

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And so the advice I would give if you've never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I'm not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I've learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.

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Especially when you're in a situation like I'm in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don't get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.

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The choice is yours. But that's one of the things I've had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can't communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.

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But what I've learned is that people can't actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I've said words doesn't mean that they're understanding it. The exact same way that I'm thinking that they're understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.

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You can check out the link down below if you're interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren't enough.

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Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there's more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here's why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.

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Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn't think it was that big of a deal, or they didn't listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.

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Or when I said, hey, let's get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that's just not going to cut it. It's not fast enough.

00;07;42;10 - 00;08;07;15
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And there's a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn't keeping up.

00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07
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What I've learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I've communicated 100% of it, I've maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He's, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.

00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01
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And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I'd write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.

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So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an Enneagram one. Don't expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.

00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13
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And here's what I thought. I thought, I'm going to step into this new role, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. And while I'm doing what I'm doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.

00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05
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So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who's in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we're, pulling together in our student ministry.

00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04
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And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I'm doing here is managing these people. They're the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.

00;10;11;07 - 00;10;31;06
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And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.

00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20
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He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.

00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05
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And when they're having a tough time getting across the finish line, they're having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn't. I was feeling like I wasn't successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.

00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15
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I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don't mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don't get to do as much.

00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21
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And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here's the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It's a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.

00;12;02;21 - 00;12;22;18
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I'd love for you to take a look at it. There's a seven day free trial link down below. It's called Hybrid Heroes. It's part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.

00;12;22;20 - 00;12;40;17
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It costs money to other people, but it's free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It's $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't have enough money for that.

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Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that's what I did. And I'm just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.

00;13;00;11 - 00;13;20;18
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I've been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn't happen when you're coasting, right? And no matter what you're doing and no matter what area you're growing in and learning in, whether it's growing in management skills like I am or whether it's trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?

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But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don't forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.

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Six months into leading this

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team, I realized

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something uncomfortable.

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You can be good at ministry, but that is not automatically mean you're good at leading people.

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In this video, I want to share with you the mistakes I've made in my first

00;00;15;29 - 00;00;23;21
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six months in leadership, in the new position that I have and some things that I would definitely be doing differently.

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Welcome, everybody, to the hybrid ministry show.

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Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I have had a chance to meet you. My name is Nick Clason and in this podcast exists primarily to talk about digital ministry and making discipleship online a little bit easier. But in this episode, I want to talk about a major shift that's actually happened in my life.

00;00;43;19 - 00;01;10;27
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And this might actually be one of the more emotional or even like real episodes because, I moved here three years ago to work for a guy who one of my great friends, his name is Darren, and he was an amazing boss, best boss I ever had. Now, listen, let's be honest. There's always times where I felt like I could do something better or different, but I had really learned to love and kind of settle into my role, getting things done and being a worker, for him.

00;01;10;27 - 00;01;26;25
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And, the one of the things I loved about Darren, too, is that he believed in me and he trusted me, and he gave me a lot of leash to make major student ministry decisions. And so I didn't feel like I was just his right. Him or his minion. But I really felt like I got a good opportunity at leadership.

00;01;26;27 - 00;01;51;06
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Fast forward to about six months ago. He chose to step away and move to a different church. And in that transition, church very like, honorably and lovingly came to me and said, you're our number one choice. You're our guy. You want his job. And it was like a no brainer. I was like, absolutely. And in the time, you know, you got to understand, he had been doing a second job at our church, as the pastor of staff development.

00;01;51;06 - 00;02;07;12
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And so during that season, I assumed and took on quite a bit of leadership opportunities. And so I figured this wouldn't be that big a deal. All that was really going to happen was I was going to move to his old office. And then I was just going to keep kind of doing what I was doing. But man, oh man, was I wrong.

00;02;07;12 - 00;02;30;03
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Man was there. So, so many changes and so many differences. Assuming that new leadership hat and that new leadership seat. And in this episode, I want to talk through three things that I've learned. What I thought, what happened, what I did, and what the actual, learning is out of that. So let's dive in to the first leadership mistake.

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So mistake number one is that the time battle was lost. But in a lot of cases for me, the time battle was lost by someone else. Here's what I thought. I thought I'm the boss. I'm the supervisor. I'm the manager. Now I get to not only make the decisions, but I get to help oversee people and point them in the right direction and in some cases, in the ugliest parts of my heart, I get to tell them what to do.

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But here's what happened is that I was expecting to still do all of the same work that I was doing before, or all of the same work that was at least desired by me to do before. For example, continuing on this Side Hustle podcast that I don't get a lot of revenue or money from. But, you know, one way that you could really help hit that like or subscribe button down below that would really make a huge difference.

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But well, then adding in anywhere from 5 to 8 new meetings per month. Let me just give you an example. Last week, I was expected to sit down with a future potential residency candidate. I had done that before. That wasn't that big a deal. Darren gave me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that, and I was getting ready to leave town that day and so my day was mapped out.

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I was doing some podcast stuff. I was doing some, social media stuff for our, our ministry. And I had a couple meetings to kind of in my day at like one, 1 to 2 and then 2 to 3. And then, someone said, hey, we have to have a recap meeting for this big winter retreat event that you just had.

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We had already had a meeting. Me and the person in the meeting had already discussed it, but like, well, no, we have to have it in this way with these people. And so I was like, well, if we want to have it before I leave town, we got to do it now. So another meeting gets stacked on to the end of my day.

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And I'm not a big meeting guy like I don't, I don't mind them, but they don't bring me a lot of energy. I would rather do the work decided in the meeting, then have a meeting where we sit down and think and talk about work. And so what I've learned is that the promotion often just means that more people have certain demands on my time.

00;04;38;17 - 00;05;03;03
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And so the advice I would give if you've never checked it out, check out Time boss. It was created by a guy named Andrew, and Andrew actually used to be on staff over at Download Youth Ministry, but now he stepped away from do. I am to go work on time boss full time? And I'm not joking when I tell you that when I implement and institute the principles that I've learned from time boss, I am an absolute master of my time.

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Especially when you're in a situation like I'm in now, where other people are dictating my calendar and other people are telling me meetings that I have to go to, that I don't get to say to, avoid or not be part of. And so if you choose to manage your time, then when other people step in and give you, give you required meetings, you can either let them manage your time or you can manage your time before they come to you.

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The choice is yours. But that's one of the things I've had to become a master and a boss of my time. Mistake number two is that you can't communicate without communicating. I feel like my wife right in this new season of life, because what I thought was that when I communicated something, people understood the full picture of what I was saying.

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But what I've learned is that people can't actually read my mind. I can communicate, but just because I've said words doesn't mean that they're understanding it. The exact same way that I'm thinking that they're understanding it. And so people did, in fact, not read my mind. Like, let me give you an example. I delegated a task where I required us to get three clips out of opus AI, which is an amazing tool for your social media.

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You can check out the link down below if you're interested in that. It literally saves me and our team hundreds of hours a week, but, I would save three opus clips per week out of each of our messages. Well, when I ask someone to do opus clips, they started saving two instead of three. Small miscommunication, but one that I then had a decision to make when I went and I noticed that there weren't enough.

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Do I say something or do I let it go right? Or hey, this is the what the expected, word count needs to be when you get in front of a camera and when they come in and there's more words than what were expected, I had to say, well, here's why the word count matters from time standpoint on YouTube and all these types of things.

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Or when I said, hey, I like all of these events to be planned during the day and I come back. And my team had made one event planned to be happening at night in the evening. Again, not a big deal, but we just had to come around and I had said something and they didn't think it was that big of a deal, or they didn't listen to it, or they chose to override it or whatever the reason might be.

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Or when I said, hey, let's get some hot chocolate for this event. And I go to the back and I see, my resident, my intern making hot chocolate, using the hot water from a small tea kettle, trying to fill up in a five gallon, water jug, bucket. Like, that's just not going to cut it. It's not fast enough.

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And there's a million other ways to get to it. But so when I said make hot chocolate, I thought this was the assumed path to make hot chocolate in our youth ministry, at our church, in our space, they heard make hot chocolate. And to their credit, they were resourceful to figure out a way to do it. But to their disadvantage, they were using some of those incredibly slow and the event had already started and they were stuck in the back, still making hot chocolate because the tea kettle wasn't keeping up.

00;08;07;21 - 00;08;28;07
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What I've learned is that I have to over communicate, and when I think I've communicated 100% of it, I've maybe only effectively communicated 60% of it. I was talking to a friend of mine. He's, youth volunteer for me. He owns his own business. And I was talking to him about this, and he said, this happens to me all the time.

00;08;28;07 - 00;08;44;01
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And so it made me really frustrated, to be completely honest, because I would say things, I would communicate things. I'd write them down and put them in tasks. And only a certain percentage of the task was getting completed or adhered to or listened to. And he just said, this is a very normal thing with people who are working for you.

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So my advice, especially to myself and to you, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an Enneagram one. Don't expect perfection. Be able to roll with the punches and continue to circle back and Overcommunicate and overcommunicate. Mistake number three and this one might be the toughest one, honestly, is that I feel like I lost some of my passion for youth ministry.

00;09;06;09 - 00;09;21;13
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And here's what I thought. I thought, I'm going to step into this new role, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. And while I'm doing what I'm doing, and now I get to be in charge, how great is that? What happened was I shifted from more of a doer of the ministry to more of a manager.

00;09;21;13 - 00;09;44;05
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So last fall, for example, I had fully handed off programing to one of my associates who's in charge of all programing, like service orders, all that type of stuff. And then another, couple people on our team were in charge of a Friendsgiving for, the community like, outreach event drive, like a canned food drive kind of thing that we're, pulling together in our student ministry.

00;09;44;05 - 00;10;11;04
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And then one person was in charge of the Friendsgiving event that we had, and they had two of them collaborate and work together. And then two other people were in charge of our costume party. And so I remember stepping back and thinking to myself, the only thing I'm doing here is managing these people. They're the ones that are like fully running, planning, executing and making these events all have traction getting off the ground.

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And you know, everything that needed to happen in these event spaces. And I found myself like a little bit sitting around kind of like twiddling my thumbs, like, what am I supposed to do? Well, I learned is I and I already knew this about myself, but what I learned was I found myself in my working frustration. As Patrick Clancy only talks about it.

00;10;31;06 - 00;11;06;20
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He has a working widget with six different wheels, and I determined and discovered that my strength was invention and tenacity, and I knew that my frustration was enablement and galvanizing. So kind of rah rah and cheerleading. The team and helping make them, like, get excited around an idea. And so I had shifted out of my strength invention one like creating something out of wonder and tenacity, bringing that invention across the finish line, and then handing that over to my team and trying to encourage them to bring it across the finish line.

00;11;06;26 - 00;11;28;05
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And when they're having a tough time getting across the finish line, they're having a tough time articulating their ideas. I was also having an equally tough time because I couldn't. I was feeling like I wasn't successfully getting those things accomplished and across the finish line. So the advice I took something back that I loved. I took back programing.

00;11;28;08 - 00;11;46;15
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I was like, I need to do something in this job where I get to invent and I get to take it across the finish line, because if not, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just going to watch all of you guys do it. Part of my job is development, and I don't mind it, but it does shift me away from a passion point into something that I don't get to do as much.

00;11;46;15 - 00;12;02;21
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And I felt really bad and I felt really guilty for doing it. But, I mean, here's the thing. Like, I love programing and I love creating something. In fact, I love it so much. I have a podcast dedicated to creative programing. It's a weekly bonus podcast, and I just walk you through what our youth ministry does every single week.

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I'd love for you to take a look at it. There's a seven day free trial link down below. It's called Hybrid Heroes. It's part of Patreon membership tier and you get a weekly bonus podcast every single Monday morning that details, recaps, and outlines our last week of social media and our last week of creative programing. In addition to that, everything I put on my store, that costs money.

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It costs money to other people, but it's free to hybrid here. So $4 a month is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. It's $48 per year. If you have like a professional, or personal development budget line. Like you can charge to that if you don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't have enough money for that.

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Get one cup of coffee from your office, from home, and then skip Starbucks for just one time, and it will cover the cost of that. But that's what I did. And I'm just going to be completely honest for you. This last season has been a really hard season for me. I was confused by it because I thought I knew what I was doing.

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I've been in youth ministry for a long time already. But growth doesn't happen when you're coasting, right? And no matter what you're doing and no matter what area you're growing in and learning in, whether it's growing in management skills like I am or whether it's trying to grow in areas like social media, when you put yourself in uncomfortable situations, it can feel difficult, right?

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But the only way to get to the other side, the only way to truly experience growth, is to go through it. So stick with it. Rooting you on, encouraging you. Don't forget my friends and as always, stay hybrid.

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I'm going to be evaluating based on these personalization reels and shorts and cost. And we're going to see who goes and takes the cake. So I have seven different social media packs. 00:00:26:28 - 00:00:49:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I want you to stick around to the end because I do believe I have uncovered and I've found the best social media pack for youth ministries in the world. Let's go. Okay, so this first one here that I found again, just remember a quick, simple Google search. I found a life church, which is, their open platform. 00:00:49:07 - 00:01:12:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It is free, which is amazing. But one of the things I noticed when I actually clicked in on it was that it just very simply was a, a standard quick graphic pack. So this isn't even really a social media pack as much as it is some social media images to post to your social media. So is it's a ten like it's free and you can grab it. 00:01:12:20 - 00:01:34:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you want to edit it, like if you want to put your actual student ministry like students and pictures on there, like it's maybe like a one because it's just JPEGs. Like there's not even a Photoshop file or a Canva graphic that you can swap out their pictures with your own pictures. So, let's if you want to just post what they have, we'll give it a ten. 00:01:34:13 - 00:01:52:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like, let's just put it out of five and then, the personalization touch because you can't edit it. It's, it's a one like you can't it's not your youth ministry at all. Unless maybe you put your like youth ministry logo just in the corner somewhere. So we're just going to stick that one. Reels and shorts. It's a zero. 00:01:52:08 - 00:02:16:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's there's no reels and shorts. Here is, it's, graphic. It's, picture. And then finally cost, we're going to give it a ten on cost, which means it's cheap. So, high on the cost meter, which means that it was free. So the total score for Life Church is 15 out of 40. The next one is the dim monthly pack. 00:02:16:15 - 00:02:37:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so kind of the story of how I found this is I've been a dim member now for probably going on ten years. And dim, like, I actually just yesterday was on a video called Four Different People, who all essentially said something along the lines of the DIY membership is the best thing that you the best youth ministry, value that exists on the internet. 00:02:37:15 - 00:03:02:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you know what? There. Right? Gold. Gold plus and platinum. They are all incredible deals. I myself am a platinum member and a part of the do I am monthly pack is, a social media pack that they give out every single month. And so from an EAS standpoint, I'm going to give it like an eight. It gives you, a post for every single day of, of the month and it gives you a monthly posting calendar. 00:03:02:16 - 00:03:21:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you just follow their posting calendar, it's easy to go. Now you do have to schedule it yourself or post it yourself. So that's why it's not a ten on ease, because you do have to have at least a little bit of infrastructure and tools to be able to post it. Personalization. I'm going to give it a three and here's why. 00:03:21:21 - 00:03:42:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Any of the just like kind of like standard graphics, like they there's not really personalized. However, they do include some story graphics where you can post like stickers with, polls or questions or comments or multiple choice. And so therefore you are at least able to do a little bit of interaction and engagement. So there is a personalization. 00:03:43:02 - 00:04:09:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It did go to zero though on reels and shorts because it's it's not a reels and shorts base package. It is a graphics based package. And this this is really important. And out of the four this might be one of the most important ones from a social media standpoint, not from a youth pastor standpoint. Maybe ease or maybe cost is the most important, but reels and shorts videos, that is really, really important on social media in 2026 and then also cost. 00:04:09:05 - 00:04:32:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to give it like a six. And and it's a complicated one because you can't actually get this pack standalone. You have to be a member. So the membership is expensive and I wouldn't get the membership. If you're only goal is to get this social media like, but I would get the membership because there's a million other amazing opportunities and a million other amazing resources found in there. 00:04:32:06 - 00:04:56:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it's behind the gold, gold plus or platinum paywall. So to be completely fair, that is, like I said, the best deal in the history of youth ministry. It's 24, 70 for a month. If you pay on the annualized version of gold or it's 2999 if you pay monthly, platinum is 8325 a month, or $1,000 a year, and again thousand dollars a year for this social media pack. 00:04:56:08 - 00:05:17:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Not the best deal in youth ministry, but when you throw in national day events, youth ministry training, free ticket to doing 100 roundtables, a whole year of co-leader and their annual curriculum like bro. Yes, games, store credit, mystery items, parent resources. Now we're talking. It really is the best year in the history of youth ministry. So total score for the youth ministry doing, monthly social pack. 00:05:17:26 - 00:05:37:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to give it like a 17 out of 40, the youth ministry job. This is a new one. And shout out to the youth ministry drop. You're CEO is cooking. Your email like I'm getting emails from you. Like, that is amazing. Here's what I noticed, though. This is, this this is behind a paywall. 00:05:37:00 - 00:05:54:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. So, I'm going to give it the cost. I'm going to give it an eight. It's $15 a month. You get more than just a social media pack. The ease I'm going to give it an eight as well. It's got ready to go graphics and videos. The personalization, is like a two. 00:05:54:15 - 00:06:11:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can probably add some, like, stickers and stuff like that, just like the DUI impact to, like, stories. But I am this is the first one now that I am going to give a five. So more than zero on reels and shorts, because if you look in the description here, it offers not just graphics but also videos. 00:06:11:07 - 00:06:30:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this is the first pack that does include some videos so far that we've looked at. And so $15 a month is a great deal. Also you get more, like I said in this than just the social media pack. And so I didn't pay for it because I don't have any money for these videos. And so you can subscribe to this video for me. 00:06:30:25 - 00:06:51:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that will actually help a lot or give it a like, or, show some love down in the comments. Or better yet, head on over to my Patreon where I give a, weekly bonus podcast episode recapping my night in youth ministry. So I can't be like Ryan Trahan and pay for all the bits in my video, but hopefully soon I can. 00:06:51:16 - 00:07:10:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So, go ahead, do those things. Subscribe, head over to Patreon. That'd be amazing. Total score for this. I'm going to give it a 23 out of 40. Moving on to the fourth one, we have the Sunday Social. Now here's how I found it. Because when I Google Search Sunday Social didn't come up. This is a church wide platform. 00:07:10:00 - 00:07:27:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's not just built for student ministry. The last ones were all just kind of built for student ministry. But this one, this one is a little bit different. This is made kind of for the rest of the church. And so therefore, I knew about it and I went and I found it, it didn't find me on my search. 00:07:27:05 - 00:07:43:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's what I notice. Like ease. I'm going to give it a nine. It looks like it has more powerful tools than the other ones that we've used so far. The other ones, like here is a graphic. And then this has like a scheduler and like an editable, template and like it's all kind of like web based. 00:07:43:25 - 00:08:01:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so this looks like it's got like some real, some real meat, some real, effort behind some of these tools. The personalization I'm going to give it like a three. If you look here like there are three different kind of tiers. So there's just the standard pack. Then there's the editable, add on. And so that's going to be a little bit more expensive. 00:08:01:25 - 00:08:18:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it exists but it's not in at the base package. And then same thing with the reels and shorts. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. It does have an option there to add in the reels and shorts add on. But again now with the personalization plus the reels and shorts. Now, we've added on quite a bit. 00:08:18:24 - 00:08:42:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That ends up getting it to be I'm going to give it a six on cost because it's about $50 a month. And so if you are a church, church wide, social media manager, $50 a month might be within your wheelhouse in a youth ministry context where it's just social media and it's just these graphics and still the personalization doesn't necessarily mean your face, your voice, your people and your pictures. 00:08:42:11 - 00:09:00:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It only if you're able to do that in an editable software like Canva or Photoshop. But it's not your actual like, pastor, you know, coming on and doing devotionals and stuff like that. So we're going to go ahead and give this a 23 out of 40. The next one I noticed were some videos here, which, oh, hey, look at that one. 00:09:00:29 - 00:09:25:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I know that guy. But Brady Shear and, Alexander Mills on their Pro Church Tools podcast and also nucleus, which is their, their brand for like websites and media. They have, social media and, options. And then we're going to get into that in just a minute. But I found Brady back in 2016, back when the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the, Warriors in the NBA finals. 00:09:25:08 - 00:09:47:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I just remember that year because my son was born, and apparently when I found Brady. But what I notice is that Brady is he's goaded on this stuff like he is the man, and I trust everything he says. And to be completely fair, I really started this podcast because I believe so much in what Brady said, and I wanted to make that clear and available for youth ministries, who he talks about youth ministries. 00:09:47:10 - 00:10:06:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, this video right here that I discovered, is a video that he talks about how to do social media for youth ministry, but he does it like once a year, and I talk about it every single week. And so the I've listened to this podcast before and there's a bunch of different chapters, and he had a few, a couple philosophies behind what to do. 00:10:06:02 - 00:10:27:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So the first thing is he wants it to be student driven, which, by the way, I actually have an entire checklist and episode link down below about how you can have a student driven and student run social media where you don't actually have to lift much of a finger. And the second is, show, don't tell. Right. So, like, get on there and actually show them what it's like to be in your youth ministry. 00:10:27:18 - 00:11:00:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Don't just tell them what it's like to be a part of your youth ministry. And then these were all ideas that he had. So, make up a kid, which, by the way, he gave this idea and I went ahead and stole it. And so you can see the video of we when we mocked up a kid in our youth ministry, talked about, using disposable cameras and kind of that vintage look, creating broadcast channels for communication and just community and conversation, doing like a live performance, using like, the live feature, natively woven into some of these social media platforms and then finally Bible trivia, which sneak peek my winter season social 00:11:00:00 - 00:11:24:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry media pack has a Bible Trivia one, but then you got to know that he has. Like I said, he has a a platform, called Nucleus Social. So this is what I'm going to be though. That was just his video. Like here's some ideas how to run it. But his actual social media pack, once again similar to Sunday Social made for big church, like social media is not just youth ministry, social medias ease. 00:11:24:15 - 00:11:41:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to give it a nine. It has some more powerful tools and some of the other ones that we've looked at. Personalization. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. There's some edited, edited ability. And some of these is especially if you know how to use things like, After Effects, Premiere Pro, Adobe Photoshop, Reels and Shorts. 00:11:41:11 - 00:12:01:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to give this a seven. This is the highest, this is a higher score than the Sunday social one because it's baked into the cost, not just an add on. However, you'll notice that it's about the same cost as Sunday socials. So this is Brady's like, base package. It's just it is 49. Where Sunday social. It's like it jumps up on you as you add it on. 00:12:01:08 - 00:12:20:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we're gonna go ahead and give the cost factor about a six which brings his out to 2740 which is this is probably and this one is Sunday social are probably the most beautiful like of all the packs. Like they just have professional designers on their team and they just do an amazing, amazing job with their stuff. 00:12:20:29 - 00:12:49:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This one's a new one that I just came across. I got an email from Download Youth Ministry as a part of my platinum membership that a service called The Seer. The sermon multiplier, is giving platinum members a free trial for three months, some different credits to use their platform. And so this is got a lot of some social media, components woven into it, but it's also got some other, things like AI devotionals that it can, it can create and develop for us. 00:12:49:08 - 00:13:10:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so this is the most personalized option so far. What you do is you upload a video of yourself teaching, and then it creates and spits out for you devotionals, graphics and real. So is I'm going to give it a six on these like the actual platforms. Easy. You click upload, it uploads. But here's why I didn't make it a ten. 00:13:10:22 - 00:13:30:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On ease is because you must have a video of yourself, and not every youth pastor has a video of themselves teaching. And so I happen to that's part of our strategy. We we post all of our long form videos, to YouTube. So I had one that I could use as a test that was clean and didn't have any lower thirds that were going to get chopped off on the sides if I uploaded it. 00:13:30:22 - 00:13:45:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I also it needed to be under five megabytes, which one of my videos is like 5.8. And so that was kind of a bummer because I was like, well, I have to compress this in order to get it. And like, that's a whole nother like step. And there was no option to to do that. Woven into the dashboard, there. 00:13:45:25 - 00:14:11:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The personalization factor, I'm giving this one a ten. Like my face, my voice, my sermon clipped into social media, my quotes, that it spits out for you. Like you can't get more personalized in that reusing shorts. They do it. They give you four custom ones based off and clipped up from that video and then finally cost, I'm going to give it a seven because, if you're a platinum member, it's like a one. 00:14:11:00 - 00:14:38:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if it's just a little random added perk to it, like you weren't getting the platinum membership for this. Fantastic. But if not, it's it is a little bit expensive because it's sitting there behind the platinum membership. Now, you realize this is another feature from Download Youth Ministry. So you can pair this with the graphics pack. And now now we might be talking melding kind of these two scores together because it's a couple of different angles of social media. 00:14:38:01 - 00:15:00:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So just something to consider there. That ends up being 33 out of 40. And then the final one is the winter seasonal social media pack. Here's how I found it I actually made this one. But I do need a better SEO engineer. It. Listen, it's me. I'm the SEO engineer, which means it's not that good, but I actually got this text yesterday from a friend who said that I showed up in a ChatGPT search, so maybe something I'm doing is working. 00:15:01:04 - 00:15:20:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's what I noticed. Mine did pretty well versus some of these professionals. Reminder I'm not a professional. I'm a professional and paid youth pastor. But that's it. Like this whole social media thing, this is a side gig. This is my guest bedroom, before a dentist appointment that I have on a Friday on my day off. So, like, that's, you know, this is the back of my phone I'm talking into. 00:15:20:25 - 00:15:40:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's the thing. Here's my score. I'm going to give it a nine for ease. And I'm not just saying that because it's mine. Like I give you everything. I give you the videos and you take them and you post them, okay? However, I'm going to give it a nine because you still have to get your camera out and film yourself at some points, because I care about the personalization side of it. 00:15:40:09 - 00:15:58:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I can't just give you the graphics. If I were doing just a graphics pack, I would make it as easy as all the other ones, but I I'm asking you and your your voice as a youth pastor or your students or your volunteers to become some of the faces and some of the personalities on your social media. But that's what makes it a ten, personalization. 00:15:58:19 - 00:16:19:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like you look at my pack across my grid and my feed here, like it's not just a bunch of, like, unfazed and unnamed graphics like it is my self, my people, our student ministry. The reels and shorts. It's a ten. It is based on reels and shorts. There are more reels and static graphics. There's only one post type that is a graphic or a carousel post type. 00:16:19:17 - 00:16:50:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The rest are all based on short form vertical video, TikTok reels, YouTube shorts, and then finally the cost. I'm going to say a nine, bro. It's only $4 per month. Like we had $15. We had completely free. But all it was is like one like set of graphics, but with $4 per month, for three months of social media or you get this pack, if you don't want to become a hybrid hero member at $4 per month, this pack standalone is 1799 and $18 for three months once again. 00:16:50:17 - 00:17:11:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So my total score is 38 out of 40. And so this is how I rank the social media packs for student ministries. These are the four things that matter to me. And the ease and personalization reels and shorts and cost. And these are the four things that I tried to lean in on my pack and so if you found this video helpful, a like a subscribe, a comment, a share would be amazing. 00:17:11:24 - 00:17:25:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you think that the Winter season social media pack would help be a game changer for you and your social media and your church's student ministry, encourage you to go check it out and grab it right now. But until next time my friends. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid. Social media, Church Social Media 2026, Youth Ministry, Student Ministry, Life Church, DYM Social Media, Sermon Multiplier, Sunday Social, Nucleus, Hybrid Ministry, Nick Clason, Best Youth Ministry Social Media for 2026, Youth Ministry Social Media in 2026, TikTok for Students, Teenagers and Instagram, YouTube for Youth Ministry I tried and evaluated every "Youth Ministry Social Media" Pack I could find on the internet.
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 The 4 Part Grading Scale
00:41 Pack 1 - Life.Church
02:14 Pack 2 - Pack 2 - DYM Monthly Member Pack
05:23 Pack 3 - Youth Ministry Drop
07:03 Pack 4 - Sunday Social
08:59 Pack 5 - Brady Shearer & Nucleus
12:22 Pack 6 - Sermon Multiplier
14:44 Pack 7 - Seasonal Social Media

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:26:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I tried every youth ministry social media pack that exists or or at least that I could find through a quick Google search. And this is what I found out. Now, here's the thing. I'm going to be evaluating based on these personalization reels and shorts and cost. And we're going to see who goes and takes the cake. So I have seven different social media packs.

00:00:26:28 - 00:00:49:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want you to stick around to the end because I do believe I have uncovered and I've found the best social media pack for youth ministries in the world. Let's go. Okay, so this first one here that I found again, just remember a quick, simple Google search. I found a life church, which is, their open platform.

00:00:49:07 - 00:01:12:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is free, which is amazing. But one of the things I noticed when I actually clicked in on it was that it just very simply was a, a standard quick graphic pack. So this isn't even really a social media pack as much as it is some social media images to post to your social media. So is it's a ten like it's free and you can grab it.

00:01:12:20 - 00:01:34:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you want to edit it, like if you want to put your actual student ministry like students and pictures on there, like it's maybe like a one because it's just JPEGs. Like there's not even a Photoshop file or a Canva graphic that you can swap out their pictures with your own pictures. So, let's if you want to just post what they have, we'll give it a ten.

00:01:34:13 - 00:01:52:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like, let's just put it out of five and then, the personalization touch because you can't edit it. It's, it's a one like you can't it's not your youth ministry at all. Unless maybe you put your like youth ministry logo just in the corner somewhere. So we're just going to stick that one. Reels and shorts. It's a zero.

00:01:52:08 - 00:02:16:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's there's no reels and shorts. Here is, it's, graphic. It's, picture. And then finally cost, we're going to give it a ten on cost, which means it's cheap. So, high on the cost meter, which means that it was free. So the total score for Life Church is 15 out of 40. The next one is the dim monthly pack.

00:02:16:15 - 00:02:37:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so kind of the story of how I found this is I've been a dim member now for probably going on ten years. And dim, like, I actually just yesterday was on a video called Four Different People, who all essentially said something along the lines of the DIY membership is the best thing that you the best youth ministry, value that exists on the internet.

00:02:37:15 - 00:03:02:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you know what? There. Right? Gold. Gold plus and platinum. They are all incredible deals. I myself am a platinum member and a part of the do I am monthly pack is, a social media pack that they give out every single month. And so from an EAS standpoint, I'm going to give it like an eight. It gives you, a post for every single day of, of the month and it gives you a monthly posting calendar.

00:03:02:16 - 00:03:21:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you just follow their posting calendar, it's easy to go. Now you do have to schedule it yourself or post it yourself. So that's why it's not a ten on ease, because you do have to have at least a little bit of infrastructure and tools to be able to post it. Personalization. I'm going to give it a three and here's why.

00:03:21:21 - 00:03:42:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Any of the just like kind of like standard graphics, like they there's not really personalized. However, they do include some story graphics where you can post like stickers with, polls or questions or comments or multiple choice. And so therefore you are at least able to do a little bit of interaction and engagement. So there is a personalization.

00:03:43:02 - 00:04:09:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It did go to zero though on reels and shorts because it's it's not a reels and shorts base package. It is a graphics based package. And this this is really important. And out of the four this might be one of the most important ones from a social media standpoint, not from a youth pastor standpoint. Maybe ease or maybe cost is the most important, but reels and shorts videos, that is really, really important on social media in 2026 and then also cost.

00:04:09:05 - 00:04:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it like a six. And and it's a complicated one because you can't actually get this pack standalone. You have to be a member. So the membership is expensive and I wouldn't get the membership. If you're only goal is to get this social media like, but I would get the membership because there's a million other amazing opportunities and a million other amazing resources found in there.

00:04:32:06 - 00:04:56:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's behind the gold, gold plus or platinum paywall. So to be completely fair, that is, like I said, the best deal in the history of youth ministry. It's 24, 70 for a month. If you pay on the annualized version of gold or it's 2999 if you pay monthly, platinum is 8325 a month, or $1,000 a year, and again thousand dollars a year for this social media pack.

00:04:56:08 - 00:05:17:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not the best deal in youth ministry, but when you throw in national day events, youth ministry training, free ticket to doing 100 roundtables, a whole year of co-leader and their annual curriculum like bro. Yes, games, store credit, mystery items, parent resources. Now we're talking. It really is the best year in the history of youth ministry. So total score for the youth ministry doing, monthly social pack.

00:05:17:26 - 00:05:37:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it like a 17 out of 40, the youth ministry job. This is a new one. And shout out to the youth ministry drop. You're CEO is cooking. Your email like I'm getting emails from you. Like, that is amazing. Here's what I noticed, though. This is, this this is behind a paywall.

00:05:37:00 - 00:05:54:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. So, I'm going to give it the cost. I'm going to give it an eight. It's $15 a month. You get more than just a social media pack. The ease I'm going to give it an eight as well. It's got ready to go graphics and videos. The personalization, is like a two.

00:05:54:15 - 00:06:11:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can probably add some, like, stickers and stuff like that, just like the DUI impact to, like, stories. But I am this is the first one now that I am going to give a five. So more than zero on reels and shorts, because if you look in the description here, it offers not just graphics but also videos.

00:06:11:07 - 00:06:30:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this is the first pack that does include some videos so far that we've looked at. And so $15 a month is a great deal. Also you get more, like I said in this than just the social media pack. And so I didn't pay for it because I don't have any money for these videos. And so you can subscribe to this video for me.

00:06:30:25 - 00:06:51:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that will actually help a lot or give it a like, or, show some love down in the comments. Or better yet, head on over to my Patreon where I give a, weekly bonus podcast episode recapping my night in youth ministry. So I can't be like Ryan Trahan and pay for all the bits in my video, but hopefully soon I can.

00:06:51:16 - 00:07:10:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So, go ahead, do those things. Subscribe, head over to Patreon. That'd be amazing. Total score for this. I'm going to give it a 23 out of 40. Moving on to the fourth one, we have the Sunday Social. Now here's how I found it. Because when I Google Search Sunday Social didn't come up. This is a church wide platform.

00:07:10:00 - 00:07:27:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's not just built for student ministry. The last ones were all just kind of built for student ministry. But this one, this one is a little bit different. This is made kind of for the rest of the church. And so therefore, I knew about it and I went and I found it, it didn't find me on my search.

00:07:27:05 - 00:07:43:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's what I notice. Like ease. I'm going to give it a nine. It looks like it has more powerful tools than the other ones that we've used so far. The other ones, like here is a graphic. And then this has like a scheduler and like an editable, template and like it's all kind of like web based.

00:07:43:25 - 00:08:01:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this looks like it's got like some real, some real meat, some real, effort behind some of these tools. The personalization I'm going to give it like a three. If you look here like there are three different kind of tiers. So there's just the standard pack. Then there's the editable, add on. And so that's going to be a little bit more expensive.

00:08:01:25 - 00:08:18:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it exists but it's not in at the base package. And then same thing with the reels and shorts. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. It does have an option there to add in the reels and shorts add on. But again now with the personalization plus the reels and shorts. Now, we've added on quite a bit.

00:08:18:24 - 00:08:42:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That ends up getting it to be I'm going to give it a six on cost because it's about $50 a month. And so if you are a church, church wide, social media manager, $50 a month might be within your wheelhouse in a youth ministry context where it's just social media and it's just these graphics and still the personalization doesn't necessarily mean your face, your voice, your people and your pictures.

00:08:42:11 - 00:09:00:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It only if you're able to do that in an editable software like Canva or Photoshop. But it's not your actual like, pastor, you know, coming on and doing devotionals and stuff like that. So we're going to go ahead and give this a 23 out of 40. The next one I noticed were some videos here, which, oh, hey, look at that one.

00:09:00:29 - 00:09:25:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I know that guy. But Brady Shear and, Alexander Mills on their Pro Church Tools podcast and also nucleus, which is their, their brand for like websites and media. They have, social media and, options. And then we're going to get into that in just a minute. But I found Brady back in 2016, back when the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the, Warriors in the NBA finals.

00:09:25:08 - 00:09:47:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I just remember that year because my son was born, and apparently when I found Brady. But what I notice is that Brady is he's goaded on this stuff like he is the man, and I trust everything he says. And to be completely fair, I really started this podcast because I believe so much in what Brady said, and I wanted to make that clear and available for youth ministries, who he talks about youth ministries.

00:09:47:10 - 00:10:06:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this video right here that I discovered, is a video that he talks about how to do social media for youth ministry, but he does it like once a year, and I talk about it every single week. And so the I've listened to this podcast before and there's a bunch of different chapters, and he had a few, a couple philosophies behind what to do.

00:10:06:02 - 00:10:27:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the first thing is he wants it to be student driven, which, by the way, I actually have an entire checklist and episode link down below about how you can have a student driven and student run social media where you don't actually have to lift much of a finger. And the second is, show, don't tell. Right. So, like, get on there and actually show them what it's like to be in your youth ministry.

00:10:27:18 - 00:11:00:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't just tell them what it's like to be a part of your youth ministry. And then these were all ideas that he had. So, make up a kid, which, by the way, he gave this idea and I went ahead and stole it. And so you can see the video of we when we mocked up a kid in our youth ministry, talked about, using disposable cameras and kind of that vintage look, creating broadcast channels for communication and just community and conversation, doing like a live performance, using like, the live feature, natively woven into some of these social media platforms and then finally Bible trivia, which sneak peek my winter season social

00:11:00:00 - 00:11:24:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
media pack has a Bible Trivia one, but then you got to know that he has. Like I said, he has a a platform, called Nucleus Social. So this is what I'm going to be though. That was just his video. Like here's some ideas how to run it. But his actual social media pack, once again similar to Sunday Social made for big church, like social media is not just youth ministry, social medias ease.

00:11:24:15 - 00:11:41:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it a nine. It has some more powerful tools and some of the other ones that we've looked at. Personalization. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. There's some edited, edited ability. And some of these is especially if you know how to use things like, After Effects, Premiere Pro, Adobe Photoshop, Reels and Shorts.

00:11:41:11 - 00:12:01:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give this a seven. This is the highest, this is a higher score than the Sunday social one because it's baked into the cost, not just an add on. However, you'll notice that it's about the same cost as Sunday socials. So this is Brady's like, base package. It's just it is 49. Where Sunday social. It's like it jumps up on you as you add it on.

00:12:01:08 - 00:12:20:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we're gonna go ahead and give the cost factor about a six which brings his out to 2740 which is this is probably and this one is Sunday social are probably the most beautiful like of all the packs. Like they just have professional designers on their team and they just do an amazing, amazing job with their stuff.

00:12:20:29 - 00:12:49:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This one's a new one that I just came across. I got an email from Download Youth Ministry as a part of my platinum membership that a service called The Seer. The sermon multiplier, is giving platinum members a free trial for three months, some different credits to use their platform. And so this is got a lot of some social media, components woven into it, but it's also got some other, things like AI devotionals that it can, it can create and develop for us.

00:12:49:08 - 00:13:10:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this is the most personalized option so far. What you do is you upload a video of yourself teaching, and then it creates and spits out for you devotionals, graphics and real. So is I'm going to give it a six on these like the actual platforms. Easy. You click upload, it uploads. But here's why I didn't make it a ten.

00:13:10:22 - 00:13:30:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On ease is because you must have a video of yourself, and not every youth pastor has a video of themselves teaching. And so I happen to that's part of our strategy. We we post all of our long form videos, to YouTube. So I had one that I could use as a test that was clean and didn't have any lower thirds that were going to get chopped off on the sides if I uploaded it.

00:13:30:22 - 00:13:45:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I also it needed to be under five megabytes, which one of my videos is like 5.8. And so that was kind of a bummer because I was like, well, I have to compress this in order to get it. And like, that's a whole nother like step. And there was no option to to do that. Woven into the dashboard, there.

00:13:45:25 - 00:14:11:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The personalization factor, I'm giving this one a ten. Like my face, my voice, my sermon clipped into social media, my quotes, that it spits out for you. Like you can't get more personalized in that reusing shorts. They do it. They give you four custom ones based off and clipped up from that video and then finally cost, I'm going to give it a seven because, if you're a platinum member, it's like a one.

00:14:11:00 - 00:14:38:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if it's just a little random added perk to it, like you weren't getting the platinum membership for this. Fantastic. But if not, it's it is a little bit expensive because it's sitting there behind the platinum membership. Now, you realize this is another feature from Download Youth Ministry. So you can pair this with the graphics pack. And now now we might be talking melding kind of these two scores together because it's a couple of different angles of social media.

00:14:38:01 - 00:15:00:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So just something to consider there. That ends up being 33 out of 40. And then the final one is the winter seasonal social media pack. Here's how I found it I actually made this one. But I do need a better SEO engineer. It. Listen, it's me. I'm the SEO engineer, which means it's not that good, but I actually got this text yesterday from a friend who said that I showed up in a ChatGPT search, so maybe something I'm doing is working.

00:15:01:04 - 00:15:20:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's what I noticed. Mine did pretty well versus some of these professionals. Reminder I'm not a professional. I'm a professional and paid youth pastor. But that's it. Like this whole social media thing, this is a side gig. This is my guest bedroom, before a dentist appointment that I have on a Friday on my day off. So, like, that's, you know, this is the back of my phone I'm talking into.

00:15:20:25 - 00:15:40:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the thing. Here's my score. I'm going to give it a nine for ease. And I'm not just saying that because it's mine. Like I give you everything. I give you the videos and you take them and you post them, okay? However, I'm going to give it a nine because you still have to get your camera out and film yourself at some points, because I care about the personalization side of it.

00:15:40:09 - 00:15:58:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can't just give you the graphics. If I were doing just a graphics pack, I would make it as easy as all the other ones, but I I'm asking you and your your voice as a youth pastor or your students or your volunteers to become some of the faces and some of the personalities on your social media. But that's what makes it a ten, personalization.

00:15:58:19 - 00:16:19:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you look at my pack across my grid and my feed here, like it's not just a bunch of, like, unfazed and unnamed graphics like it is my self, my people, our student ministry. The reels and shorts. It's a ten. It is based on reels and shorts. There are more reels and static graphics. There's only one post type that is a graphic or a carousel post type.

00:16:19:17 - 00:16:50:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The rest are all based on short form vertical video, TikTok reels, YouTube shorts, and then finally the cost. I'm going to say a nine, bro. It's only $4 per month. Like we had $15. We had completely free. But all it was is like one like set of graphics, but with $4 per month, for three months of social media or you get this pack, if you don't want to become a hybrid hero member at $4 per month, this pack standalone is 1799 and $18 for three months once again.

00:16:50:17 - 00:17:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So my total score is 38 out of 40. And so this is how I rank the social media packs for student ministries. These are the four things that matter to me. And the ease and personalization reels and shorts and cost. And these are the four things that I tried to lean in on my pack and so if you found this video helpful, a like a subscribe, a comment, a share would be amazing.

00:17:11:24 - 00:17:25:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you think that the Winter season social media pack would help be a game changer for you and your social media and your church's student ministry, encourage you to go check it out and grab it right now. But until next time my friends. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 The 4 Part Grading Scale
00:41 Pack 1 - Life.Church
02:14 Pack 2 - Pack 2 - DYM Monthly Member Pack
05:23 Pack 3 - Youth Ministry Drop
07:03 Pack 4 - Sunday Social
08:59 Pack 5 - Brady Shearer & Nucleus
12:22 Pack 6 - Sermon Multiplier
14:44 Pack 7 - Seasonal Social Media

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:26:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I tried every youth ministry social media pack that exists or or at least that I could find through a quick Google search. And this is what I found out. Now, here's the thing. I'm going to be evaluating based on these personalization reels and shorts and cost. And we're going to see who goes and takes the cake. So I have seven different social media packs.

00:00:26:28 - 00:00:49:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want you to stick around to the end because I do believe I have uncovered and I've found the best social media pack for youth ministries in the world. Let's go. Okay, so this first one here that I found again, just remember a quick, simple Google search. I found a life church, which is, their open platform.

00:00:49:07 - 00:01:12:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is free, which is amazing. But one of the things I noticed when I actually clicked in on it was that it just very simply was a, a standard quick graphic pack. So this isn't even really a social media pack as much as it is some social media images to post to your social media. So is it's a ten like it's free and you can grab it.

00:01:12:20 - 00:01:34:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you want to edit it, like if you want to put your actual student ministry like students and pictures on there, like it's maybe like a one because it's just JPEGs. Like there's not even a Photoshop file or a Canva graphic that you can swap out their pictures with your own pictures. So, let's if you want to just post what they have, we'll give it a ten.

00:01:34:13 - 00:01:52:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like, let's just put it out of five and then, the personalization touch because you can't edit it. It's, it's a one like you can't it's not your youth ministry at all. Unless maybe you put your like youth ministry logo just in the corner somewhere. So we're just going to stick that one. Reels and shorts. It's a zero.

00:01:52:08 - 00:02:16:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's there's no reels and shorts. Here is, it's, graphic. It's, picture. And then finally cost, we're going to give it a ten on cost, which means it's cheap. So, high on the cost meter, which means that it was free. So the total score for Life Church is 15 out of 40. The next one is the dim monthly pack.

00:02:16:15 - 00:02:37:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so kind of the story of how I found this is I've been a dim member now for probably going on ten years. And dim, like, I actually just yesterday was on a video called Four Different People, who all essentially said something along the lines of the DIY membership is the best thing that you the best youth ministry, value that exists on the internet.

00:02:37:15 - 00:03:02:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you know what? There. Right? Gold. Gold plus and platinum. They are all incredible deals. I myself am a platinum member and a part of the do I am monthly pack is, a social media pack that they give out every single month. And so from an EAS standpoint, I'm going to give it like an eight. It gives you, a post for every single day of, of the month and it gives you a monthly posting calendar.

00:03:02:16 - 00:03:21:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you just follow their posting calendar, it's easy to go. Now you do have to schedule it yourself or post it yourself. So that's why it's not a ten on ease, because you do have to have at least a little bit of infrastructure and tools to be able to post it. Personalization. I'm going to give it a three and here's why.

00:03:21:21 - 00:03:42:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Any of the just like kind of like standard graphics, like they there's not really personalized. However, they do include some story graphics where you can post like stickers with, polls or questions or comments or multiple choice. And so therefore you are at least able to do a little bit of interaction and engagement. So there is a personalization.

00:03:43:02 - 00:04:09:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It did go to zero though on reels and shorts because it's it's not a reels and shorts base package. It is a graphics based package. And this this is really important. And out of the four this might be one of the most important ones from a social media standpoint, not from a youth pastor standpoint. Maybe ease or maybe cost is the most important, but reels and shorts videos, that is really, really important on social media in 2026 and then also cost.

00:04:09:05 - 00:04:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it like a six. And and it's a complicated one because you can't actually get this pack standalone. You have to be a member. So the membership is expensive and I wouldn't get the membership. If you're only goal is to get this social media like, but I would get the membership because there's a million other amazing opportunities and a million other amazing resources found in there.

00:04:32:06 - 00:04:56:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's behind the gold, gold plus or platinum paywall. So to be completely fair, that is, like I said, the best deal in the history of youth ministry. It's 24, 70 for a month. If you pay on the annualized version of gold or it's 2999 if you pay monthly, platinum is 8325 a month, or $1,000 a year, and again thousand dollars a year for this social media pack.

00:04:56:08 - 00:05:17:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not the best deal in youth ministry, but when you throw in national day events, youth ministry training, free ticket to doing 100 roundtables, a whole year of co-leader and their annual curriculum like bro. Yes, games, store credit, mystery items, parent resources. Now we're talking. It really is the best year in the history of youth ministry. So total score for the youth ministry doing, monthly social pack.

00:05:17:26 - 00:05:37:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it like a 17 out of 40, the youth ministry job. This is a new one. And shout out to the youth ministry drop. You're CEO is cooking. Your email like I'm getting emails from you. Like, that is amazing. Here's what I noticed, though. This is, this this is behind a paywall.

00:05:37:00 - 00:05:54:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. So, I'm going to give it the cost. I'm going to give it an eight. It's $15 a month. You get more than just a social media pack. The ease I'm going to give it an eight as well. It's got ready to go graphics and videos. The personalization, is like a two.

00:05:54:15 - 00:06:11:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can probably add some, like, stickers and stuff like that, just like the DUI impact to, like, stories. But I am this is the first one now that I am going to give a five. So more than zero on reels and shorts, because if you look in the description here, it offers not just graphics but also videos.

00:06:11:07 - 00:06:30:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this is the first pack that does include some videos so far that we've looked at. And so $15 a month is a great deal. Also you get more, like I said in this than just the social media pack. And so I didn't pay for it because I don't have any money for these videos. And so you can subscribe to this video for me.

00:06:30:25 - 00:06:51:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that will actually help a lot or give it a like, or, show some love down in the comments. Or better yet, head on over to my Patreon where I give a, weekly bonus podcast episode recapping my night in youth ministry. So I can't be like Ryan Trahan and pay for all the bits in my video, but hopefully soon I can.

00:06:51:16 - 00:07:10:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So, go ahead, do those things. Subscribe, head over to Patreon. That'd be amazing. Total score for this. I'm going to give it a 23 out of 40. Moving on to the fourth one, we have the Sunday Social. Now here's how I found it. Because when I Google Search Sunday Social didn't come up. This is a church wide platform.

00:07:10:00 - 00:07:27:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's not just built for student ministry. The last ones were all just kind of built for student ministry. But this one, this one is a little bit different. This is made kind of for the rest of the church. And so therefore, I knew about it and I went and I found it, it didn't find me on my search.

00:07:27:05 - 00:07:43:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's what I notice. Like ease. I'm going to give it a nine. It looks like it has more powerful tools than the other ones that we've used so far. The other ones, like here is a graphic. And then this has like a scheduler and like an editable, template and like it's all kind of like web based.

00:07:43:25 - 00:08:01:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this looks like it's got like some real, some real meat, some real, effort behind some of these tools. The personalization I'm going to give it like a three. If you look here like there are three different kind of tiers. So there's just the standard pack. Then there's the editable, add on. And so that's going to be a little bit more expensive.

00:08:01:25 - 00:08:18:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it exists but it's not in at the base package. And then same thing with the reels and shorts. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. It does have an option there to add in the reels and shorts add on. But again now with the personalization plus the reels and shorts. Now, we've added on quite a bit.

00:08:18:24 - 00:08:42:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That ends up getting it to be I'm going to give it a six on cost because it's about $50 a month. And so if you are a church, church wide, social media manager, $50 a month might be within your wheelhouse in a youth ministry context where it's just social media and it's just these graphics and still the personalization doesn't necessarily mean your face, your voice, your people and your pictures.

00:08:42:11 - 00:09:00:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It only if you're able to do that in an editable software like Canva or Photoshop. But it's not your actual like, pastor, you know, coming on and doing devotionals and stuff like that. So we're going to go ahead and give this a 23 out of 40. The next one I noticed were some videos here, which, oh, hey, look at that one.

00:09:00:29 - 00:09:25:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I know that guy. But Brady Shear and, Alexander Mills on their Pro Church Tools podcast and also nucleus, which is their, their brand for like websites and media. They have, social media and, options. And then we're going to get into that in just a minute. But I found Brady back in 2016, back when the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the, Warriors in the NBA finals.

00:09:25:08 - 00:09:47:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I just remember that year because my son was born, and apparently when I found Brady. But what I notice is that Brady is he's goaded on this stuff like he is the man, and I trust everything he says. And to be completely fair, I really started this podcast because I believe so much in what Brady said, and I wanted to make that clear and available for youth ministries, who he talks about youth ministries.

00:09:47:10 - 00:10:06:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this video right here that I discovered, is a video that he talks about how to do social media for youth ministry, but he does it like once a year, and I talk about it every single week. And so the I've listened to this podcast before and there's a bunch of different chapters, and he had a few, a couple philosophies behind what to do.

00:10:06:02 - 00:10:27:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the first thing is he wants it to be student driven, which, by the way, I actually have an entire checklist and episode link down below about how you can have a student driven and student run social media where you don't actually have to lift much of a finger. And the second is, show, don't tell. Right. So, like, get on there and actually show them what it's like to be in your youth ministry.

00:10:27:18 - 00:11:00:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't just tell them what it's like to be a part of your youth ministry. And then these were all ideas that he had. So, make up a kid, which, by the way, he gave this idea and I went ahead and stole it. And so you can see the video of we when we mocked up a kid in our youth ministry, talked about, using disposable cameras and kind of that vintage look, creating broadcast channels for communication and just community and conversation, doing like a live performance, using like, the live feature, natively woven into some of these social media platforms and then finally Bible trivia, which sneak peek my winter season social

00:11:00:00 - 00:11:24:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
media pack has a Bible Trivia one, but then you got to know that he has. Like I said, he has a a platform, called Nucleus Social. So this is what I'm going to be though. That was just his video. Like here's some ideas how to run it. But his actual social media pack, once again similar to Sunday Social made for big church, like social media is not just youth ministry, social medias ease.

00:11:24:15 - 00:11:41:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give it a nine. It has some more powerful tools and some of the other ones that we've looked at. Personalization. I'm going to go ahead and give it a five. There's some edited, edited ability. And some of these is especially if you know how to use things like, After Effects, Premiere Pro, Adobe Photoshop, Reels and Shorts.

00:11:41:11 - 00:12:01:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to give this a seven. This is the highest, this is a higher score than the Sunday social one because it's baked into the cost, not just an add on. However, you'll notice that it's about the same cost as Sunday socials. So this is Brady's like, base package. It's just it is 49. Where Sunday social. It's like it jumps up on you as you add it on.

00:12:01:08 - 00:12:20:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we're gonna go ahead and give the cost factor about a six which brings his out to 2740 which is this is probably and this one is Sunday social are probably the most beautiful like of all the packs. Like they just have professional designers on their team and they just do an amazing, amazing job with their stuff.

00:12:20:29 - 00:12:49:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This one's a new one that I just came across. I got an email from Download Youth Ministry as a part of my platinum membership that a service called The Seer. The sermon multiplier, is giving platinum members a free trial for three months, some different credits to use their platform. And so this is got a lot of some social media, components woven into it, but it's also got some other, things like AI devotionals that it can, it can create and develop for us.

00:12:49:08 - 00:13:10:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this is the most personalized option so far. What you do is you upload a video of yourself teaching, and then it creates and spits out for you devotionals, graphics and real. So is I'm going to give it a six on these like the actual platforms. Easy. You click upload, it uploads. But here's why I didn't make it a ten.

00:13:10:22 - 00:13:30:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On ease is because you must have a video of yourself, and not every youth pastor has a video of themselves teaching. And so I happen to that's part of our strategy. We we post all of our long form videos, to YouTube. So I had one that I could use as a test that was clean and didn't have any lower thirds that were going to get chopped off on the sides if I uploaded it.

00:13:30:22 - 00:13:45:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I also it needed to be under five megabytes, which one of my videos is like 5.8. And so that was kind of a bummer because I was like, well, I have to compress this in order to get it. And like, that's a whole nother like step. And there was no option to to do that. Woven into the dashboard, there.

00:13:45:25 - 00:14:11:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The personalization factor, I'm giving this one a ten. Like my face, my voice, my sermon clipped into social media, my quotes, that it spits out for you. Like you can't get more personalized in that reusing shorts. They do it. They give you four custom ones based off and clipped up from that video and then finally cost, I'm going to give it a seven because, if you're a platinum member, it's like a one.

00:14:11:00 - 00:14:38:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if it's just a little random added perk to it, like you weren't getting the platinum membership for this. Fantastic. But if not, it's it is a little bit expensive because it's sitting there behind the platinum membership. Now, you realize this is another feature from Download Youth Ministry. So you can pair this with the graphics pack. And now now we might be talking melding kind of these two scores together because it's a couple of different angles of social media.

00:14:38:01 - 00:15:00:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So just something to consider there. That ends up being 33 out of 40. And then the final one is the winter seasonal social media pack. Here's how I found it I actually made this one. But I do need a better SEO engineer. It. Listen, it's me. I'm the SEO engineer, which means it's not that good, but I actually got this text yesterday from a friend who said that I showed up in a ChatGPT search, so maybe something I'm doing is working.

00:15:01:04 - 00:15:20:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's what I noticed. Mine did pretty well versus some of these professionals. Reminder I'm not a professional. I'm a professional and paid youth pastor. But that's it. Like this whole social media thing, this is a side gig. This is my guest bedroom, before a dentist appointment that I have on a Friday on my day off. So, like, that's, you know, this is the back of my phone I'm talking into.

00:15:20:25 - 00:15:40:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the thing. Here's my score. I'm going to give it a nine for ease. And I'm not just saying that because it's mine. Like I give you everything. I give you the videos and you take them and you post them, okay? However, I'm going to give it a nine because you still have to get your camera out and film yourself at some points, because I care about the personalization side of it.

00:15:40:09 - 00:15:58:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can't just give you the graphics. If I were doing just a graphics pack, I would make it as easy as all the other ones, but I I'm asking you and your your voice as a youth pastor or your students or your volunteers to become some of the faces and some of the personalities on your social media. But that's what makes it a ten, personalization.

00:15:58:19 - 00:16:19:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you look at my pack across my grid and my feed here, like it's not just a bunch of, like, unfazed and unnamed graphics like it is my self, my people, our student ministry. The reels and shorts. It's a ten. It is based on reels and shorts. There are more reels and static graphics. There's only one post type that is a graphic or a carousel post type.

00:16:19:17 - 00:16:50:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The rest are all based on short form vertical video, TikTok reels, YouTube shorts, and then finally the cost. I'm going to say a nine, bro. It's only $4 per month. Like we had $15. We had completely free. But all it was is like one like set of graphics, but with $4 per month, for three months of social media or you get this pack, if you don't want to become a hybrid hero member at $4 per month, this pack standalone is 1799 and $18 for three months once again.

00:16:50:17 - 00:17:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So my total score is 38 out of 40. And so this is how I rank the social media packs for student ministries. These are the four things that matter to me. And the ease and personalization reels and shorts and cost. And these are the four things that I tried to lean in on my pack and so if you found this video helpful, a like a subscribe, a comment, a share would be amazing.

00:17:11:24 - 00:17:25:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you think that the Winter season social media pack would help be a game changer for you and your social media and your church's student ministry, encourage you to go check it out and grab it right now. But until next time my friends. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 181: How I Ran Social Media While at a Conference - - DYM 100 Challenge Pt 3 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/181 00853c2f-b990-4887-8754-f2f0cf60e73d Thu, 25 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 181 How I Ran Social Media While at a Conference - - DYM 100 Challenge Pt 3 full Nick Clason A Christmas miracle for youth pastors everywhere! A few months ago I went to the DYM 100 Roundtables, and without lifting a finger, or distracting my entire experience, this is how I regularly posted on my church's social media, while in attendance for the conference! 7:24 no A Christmas miracle for youth pastors everywhere! A few months ago I went to the DYM 100 Roundtables, and without lifting a finger, or distracting my entire experience, this is how I regularly posted on my church's social media, while in attendance for the conference! BECOME A HYBRID HERO https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry โ„๏ธ WINTER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/posts/winter-seasonal-144943791?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/181 FREE E-BOOK https://www.patreon.com/posts/complete-guide-142500019 HYBRID HERO LINK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry WINTER PACK VLOG https://youtu.be/RkHc0cTTr6c?si=zBPsd9-JWVo2mXIn 2x GROWTH EPISODE https://youtu.be/ogDlkTHDxew?si=gfcM6cpX6McI0zxs EXCLUSIVE JOSH BOLDMAN INTERVIEW https://www.patreon.com/posts/exclusive-josh-144080714?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link SOCIAL TEAM CHECKLIST https://www.patreon.com/posts/social-media-138081327?source=storefront ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe! https://www.linktr.ee/clasonnick -------------- ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU! Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products //VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid //BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-amazing-dym-142425755 //OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 DYM 100 & Social Media 00:17 Every Youth Ministry Needs a Strong Digital Presence 01:00 Your 2026 Social Media Framework 02:40 Two Things I've recently learned 04:38 Why Membership is Worth it 05:47 The Winter Pack 06:36 The Patreon Challenge -------------- TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:05 - 00:00:23:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our social media did this while I was sitting at the do I am 100 conference. I barely had to work and I want to show you how, which is an incredible gift to give you on this Christmas morning. Merry Christmas everyone, and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Merry Christmas Eve. Pastors. My name is Nicholas. And if you and I have not had a chance to meet, 00:00:23:17 - 00:00:45:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or if you're not listening to this on the day it drops, which is Christmas, I drop every single Thursday. I haven't missed a Thursday in over three years. And it just so happens to be Christmas morning when this one drops, I want to give you one of the best gifts that I think I can give youth pastors. Most youth pastors know and see and understand the need for a strong social media and digital presence. 00:00:45:18 - 00:01:08:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If not, you should check out my completely free e-book, which is link down below and that will hopefully convince you about why you need a strong social media presence. But the gift that I can give you pastors. And then I want to give you pastors, is a plan and a framework for consistency. I was over at the DUI 100 conference and social media basically ran itself. 00:01:08:25 - 00:01:28:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, full disclosure I still grab my phone, I still download it out of our Google Drive, and I still uploaded it to TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. However, those things were sitting there for me, ready to post. I didn't need anything new. I didn't need to do any extra work. When I was out there. They got the job done for me. 00:01:28:26 - 00:01:56:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the baseline and the basis for all of that is my winter seasonal social media pack, which I want you to have now. I'll be honest, it does come with a little bit of a cost because frankly, it's a lot of work to put together. But here's how I've set the pricing structure. The pack costs $17.99, but if you become a $4 per month hybrid Hero Patreon member, you get that pack included. 00:01:56:13 - 00:02:22:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if the pack is meant to last a run of three months, $4 per month for you for three months is $12, and you get a $5 off on that pack as well. As we are trying to hit a goal this month only where we make by next week's episode. As this drops that we make 25 new members in the Hybrid Heroes Patreon tier, and if we hit that to everyone involved in the community. 00:02:22:26 - 00:02:44:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you help, or if you know someone and you share a link we will offer, I will offer a free coaching call on social media to everyone who is a part of my Hybrid Heroes paid tier member. I will help map out your strategy for you. But here's the truth I've been leading a youth ministry leader cohort. 00:02:44:14 - 00:03:05:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Hybrid heroes. Deep dive kind of on why hybrid ministry, why it's important, how to keep it going. And what I realize is that this is all about behavior modification. It's not about tips and tactics. Like, you guys know what you need to know, right? And there may be some areas and some tools that I can tell you about that will help you. 00:03:05:05 - 00:03:26:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But at the end of the day, it comes down to time management and prioritization. And those are boring. Those aren't as sexy as viral reels and viral memes. I mean, the fact is, like one of the girls in our hybrid hero deep dive cohort, she had a real that had 21.2 thousand views not too long ago. Like she clearly knows what she's doing. 00:03:26:29 - 00:03:56:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry She doesn't need me. What we all realize we need is that when life gets busy, when the calendar gets overwhelming, social media is the first thing to drop. And so my pack will help you not drop it. If you have something that is done for you or mapped out for you. And as I displayed in my Winter Seasonal Social Media Pack Vlog Style Challenge eight post challenge video that is linked right here. 00:03:56:15 - 00:04:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Top screen. You can get it done in less than 20 minutes per week if you post all eight types. And I'm only asking you to post 3 to 5 times. So actually you can get it done in anywhere from 5 to 7 minutes per week done for you. It's also custom. It's got everything that you need and it's got a calendar that will last you December, January and February. 00:04:17:20 - 00:04:43:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then if you're a $4 a month member in March, that when that, spring pack will drop and boom, you got three more months of seasonal social media and you're just following my hybrid strategy, which also link down. Below is my episode on how following this strategy helped us to x our growth. In addition to that, you'll get all of the freebies and all the things over on my Patreon and my Patreon store. 00:04:43:09 - 00:05:06:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry My exclusive interview where I sat down with Jim, and Collider's Josh Bullman talking about the value of allowing students to disagree. That dropped a couple of weeks ago. So, you know you're going to get access to that, as well as, checklists and parent, communication guides and all sorts of things. Like I went in to doing 100, hoping to just vlog it out and map it out. 00:05:06:03 - 00:05:35:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what I realized was I got sucked into the vortex and we all get sucked into where things get busy. And I saw old friends and I didn't have time to create content. But my pack back home from my youth ministry, my pack helped carry through the types of posts and gave me something to continue to post while I was able to soak in all of the info and all of the goodies from the do I am 100 conference, and I also got this shirt out of it. 00:05:35:24 - 00:06:03:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Actually, this one didn't come from the conference. This one came from Gold Member week. Hey, speaking of that, vlog style video, check this out. Here's what I learned. During that week. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a then some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. 00:06:04:03 - 00:06:25:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. 00:06:26:01 - 00:06:45:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. So if you want to let your weeks be like that, where when it gets busy, you still have something that's running on autopilot for you. 00:06:45:07 - 00:07:07:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry For social media, my winter seasonal social media pack is the key to that, and it's a great gift for you on Christmas morning. And if you consider joining, you can help get us to the finish line. Progress bar is here on screen so that you can see how many paid Hybrid Hero members we've gotten over this last month as we push towards January to that 25 goal. 00:07:07:23 - 00:07:23:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So that you can unlock that free coaching opportunity. But hey my friends, hope you've had a great episode. I thank you for being here with us. And until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid. Merry Christmas and we'll see you in 2026. DYM100, DownloadYouthMinistry, Josh Boldman, Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, youth ministry, youth pastor tips, youth pastor training, student ministry, church media, christmas youth ministry, small group leader training, programming ideas for youth ministry, social media for churches, church social media, youth ministry ideas, hybrid ministry podcast, ym programming, dym conference, doug fields, brady shearer, sean cannell,DownloadYouthMinistry,Josh Boldman,Nick Clason,Hybrid Ministry,youth ministry,youth pastor tips,youth pastor training,student ministry,church media,christmas youth ministry,small group leader training,programming ideas for youth ministry,social media for churches,church social media,youth ministry ideas,hybrid ministry podcast,ym programming,dym conference,doug fields,brady shearer,sean cannell A Christmas miracle for youth pastors everywhere!
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 DYM 100 & Social Media
00:17 Every Youth Ministry Needs a Strong Digital Presence
01:00 Your 2026 Social Media Framework
02:40 Two Things I've recently learned
04:38 Why Membership is Worth it
05:47 The Winter Pack
06:36 The Patreon Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:23:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our social media did this while I was sitting at the do I am 100 conference. I barely had to work and I want to show you how, which is an incredible gift to give you on this Christmas morning. Merry Christmas everyone, and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Merry Christmas Eve. Pastors. My name is Nicholas. And if you and I have not had a chance to meet,

00:00:23:17 - 00:00:45:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or if you're not listening to this on the day it drops, which is Christmas, I drop every single Thursday. I haven't missed a Thursday in over three years. And it just so happens to be Christmas morning when this one drops, I want to give you one of the best gifts that I think I can give youth pastors. Most youth pastors know and see and understand the need for a strong social media and digital presence.

00:00:45:18 - 00:01:08:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If not, you should check out my completely free e-book, which is link down below and that will hopefully convince you about why you need a strong social media presence. But the gift that I can give you pastors. And then I want to give you pastors, is a plan and a framework for consistency. I was over at the DUI 100 conference and social media basically ran itself.

00:01:08:25 - 00:01:28:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, full disclosure I still grab my phone, I still download it out of our Google Drive, and I still uploaded it to TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. However, those things were sitting there for me, ready to post. I didn't need anything new. I didn't need to do any extra work. When I was out there. They got the job done for me.

00:01:28:26 - 00:01:56:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the baseline and the basis for all of that is my winter seasonal social media pack, which I want you to have now. I'll be honest, it does come with a little bit of a cost because frankly, it's a lot of work to put together. But here's how I've set the pricing structure. The pack costs $17.99, but if you become a $4 per month hybrid Hero Patreon member, you get that pack included.

00:01:56:13 - 00:02:22:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if the pack is meant to last a run of three months, $4 per month for you for three months is $12, and you get a $5 off on that pack as well. As we are trying to hit a goal this month only where we make by next week's episode. As this drops that we make 25 new members in the Hybrid Heroes Patreon tier, and if we hit that to everyone involved in the community.

00:02:22:26 - 00:02:44:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you help, or if you know someone and you share a link we will offer, I will offer a free coaching call on social media to everyone who is a part of my Hybrid Heroes paid tier member. I will help map out your strategy for you. But here's the truth I've been leading a youth ministry leader cohort.

00:02:44:14 - 00:03:05:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hybrid heroes. Deep dive kind of on why hybrid ministry, why it's important, how to keep it going. And what I realize is that this is all about behavior modification. It's not about tips and tactics. Like, you guys know what you need to know, right? And there may be some areas and some tools that I can tell you about that will help you.

00:03:05:05 - 00:03:26:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But at the end of the day, it comes down to time management and prioritization. And those are boring. Those aren't as sexy as viral reels and viral memes. I mean, the fact is, like one of the girls in our hybrid hero deep dive cohort, she had a real that had 21.2 thousand views not too long ago. Like she clearly knows what she's doing.

00:03:26:29 - 00:03:56:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
She doesn't need me. What we all realize we need is that when life gets busy, when the calendar gets overwhelming, social media is the first thing to drop. And so my pack will help you not drop it. If you have something that is done for you or mapped out for you. And as I displayed in my Winter Seasonal Social Media Pack Vlog Style Challenge eight post challenge video that is linked right here.

00:03:56:15 - 00:04:17:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Top screen. You can get it done in less than 20 minutes per week if you post all eight types. And I'm only asking you to post 3 to 5 times. So actually you can get it done in anywhere from 5 to 7 minutes per week done for you. It's also custom. It's got everything that you need and it's got a calendar that will last you December, January and February.

00:04:17:20 - 00:04:43:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if you're a $4 a month member in March, that when that, spring pack will drop and boom, you got three more months of seasonal social media and you're just following my hybrid strategy, which also link down. Below is my episode on how following this strategy helped us to x our growth. In addition to that, you'll get all of the freebies and all the things over on my Patreon and my Patreon store.

00:04:43:09 - 00:05:06:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
My exclusive interview where I sat down with Jim, and Collider's Josh Bullman talking about the value of allowing students to disagree. That dropped a couple of weeks ago. So, you know you're going to get access to that, as well as, checklists and parent, communication guides and all sorts of things. Like I went in to doing 100, hoping to just vlog it out and map it out.

00:05:06:03 - 00:05:35:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I realized was I got sucked into the vortex and we all get sucked into where things get busy. And I saw old friends and I didn't have time to create content. But my pack back home from my youth ministry, my pack helped carry through the types of posts and gave me something to continue to post while I was able to soak in all of the info and all of the goodies from the do I am 100 conference, and I also got this shirt out of it.

00:05:35:24 - 00:06:03:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Actually, this one didn't come from the conference. This one came from Gold Member week. Hey, speaking of that, vlog style video, check this out. Here's what I learned. During that week. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a then some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five.

00:06:04:03 - 00:06:25:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on.

00:06:26:01 - 00:06:45:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. So if you want to let your weeks be like that, where when it gets busy, you still have something that's running on autopilot for you.

00:06:45:07 - 00:07:07:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
For social media, my winter seasonal social media pack is the key to that, and it's a great gift for you on Christmas morning. And if you consider joining, you can help get us to the finish line. Progress bar is here on screen so that you can see how many paid Hybrid Hero members we've gotten over this last month as we push towards January to that 25 goal.

00:07:07:23 - 00:07:23:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So that you can unlock that free coaching opportunity. But hey my friends, hope you've had a great episode. I thank you for being here with us. And until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid. Merry Christmas and we'll see you in 2026.

]]> A Christmas miracle for youth pastors everywhere!
A few months ago I went to the DYM 100 Roundtables, and without lifting a finger, or distracting my entire experience, this is how I regularly posted on my church's social media, while in attendance for the conference!

BECOME A HYBRID HERO
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โ„๏ธ WINTER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK
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SHOW NOTES
Shownotes & Transcripts
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/181

FREE E-BOOK
https://www.patreon.com/posts/complete-guide-142500019

HYBRID HERO LINK
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry

WINTER PACK VLOG
https://youtu.be/RkHc0cTTr6c?si=zBPsd9-JWVo2mXIn

2x GROWTH EPISODE
https://youtu.be/ogDlkTHDxew?si=gfcM6cpX6McI0zxs

EXCLUSIVE JOSH BOLDMAN INTERVIEW
https://www.patreon.com/posts/exclusive-josh-144080714?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

SOCIAL TEAM CHECKLIST
https://www.patreon.com/posts/social-media-138081327?source=storefront

๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick
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๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU!
Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products
//VIDIQ
https://vidiq.com/hybrid

//BEST DYM RESOURCES
https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-amazing-dym-142425755

//OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS
https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361

//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 DYM 100 & Social Media
00:17 Every Youth Ministry Needs a Strong Digital Presence
01:00 Your 2026 Social Media Framework
02:40 Two Things I've recently learned
04:38 Why Membership is Worth it
05:47 The Winter Pack
06:36 The Patreon Challenge

--------------
TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:23:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our social media did this while I was sitting at the do I am 100 conference. I barely had to work and I want to show you how, which is an incredible gift to give you on this Christmas morning. Merry Christmas everyone, and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Merry Christmas Eve. Pastors. My name is Nicholas. And if you and I have not had a chance to meet,

00:00:23:17 - 00:00:45:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or if you're not listening to this on the day it drops, which is Christmas, I drop every single Thursday. I haven't missed a Thursday in over three years. And it just so happens to be Christmas morning when this one drops, I want to give you one of the best gifts that I think I can give youth pastors. Most youth pastors know and see and understand the need for a strong social media and digital presence.

00:00:45:18 - 00:01:08:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If not, you should check out my completely free e-book, which is link down below and that will hopefully convince you about why you need a strong social media presence. But the gift that I can give you pastors. And then I want to give you pastors, is a plan and a framework for consistency. I was over at the DUI 100 conference and social media basically ran itself.

00:01:08:25 - 00:01:28:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, full disclosure I still grab my phone, I still download it out of our Google Drive, and I still uploaded it to TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. However, those things were sitting there for me, ready to post. I didn't need anything new. I didn't need to do any extra work. When I was out there. They got the job done for me.

00:01:28:26 - 00:01:56:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the baseline and the basis for all of that is my winter seasonal social media pack, which I want you to have now. I'll be honest, it does come with a little bit of a cost because frankly, it's a lot of work to put together. But here's how I've set the pricing structure. The pack costs $17.99, but if you become a $4 per month hybrid Hero Patreon member, you get that pack included.

00:01:56:13 - 00:02:22:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if the pack is meant to last a run of three months, $4 per month for you for three months is $12, and you get a $5 off on that pack as well. As we are trying to hit a goal this month only where we make by next week's episode. As this drops that we make 25 new members in the Hybrid Heroes Patreon tier, and if we hit that to everyone involved in the community.

00:02:22:26 - 00:02:44:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you help, or if you know someone and you share a link we will offer, I will offer a free coaching call on social media to everyone who is a part of my Hybrid Heroes paid tier member. I will help map out your strategy for you. But here's the truth I've been leading a youth ministry leader cohort.

00:02:44:14 - 00:03:05:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hybrid heroes. Deep dive kind of on why hybrid ministry, why it's important, how to keep it going. And what I realize is that this is all about behavior modification. It's not about tips and tactics. Like, you guys know what you need to know, right? And there may be some areas and some tools that I can tell you about that will help you.

00:03:05:05 - 00:03:26:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But at the end of the day, it comes down to time management and prioritization. And those are boring. Those aren't as sexy as viral reels and viral memes. I mean, the fact is, like one of the girls in our hybrid hero deep dive cohort, she had a real that had 21.2 thousand views not too long ago. Like she clearly knows what she's doing.

00:03:26:29 - 00:03:56:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
She doesn't need me. What we all realize we need is that when life gets busy, when the calendar gets overwhelming, social media is the first thing to drop. And so my pack will help you not drop it. If you have something that is done for you or mapped out for you. And as I displayed in my Winter Seasonal Social Media Pack Vlog Style Challenge eight post challenge video that is linked right here.

00:03:56:15 - 00:04:17:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Top screen. You can get it done in less than 20 minutes per week if you post all eight types. And I'm only asking you to post 3 to 5 times. So actually you can get it done in anywhere from 5 to 7 minutes per week done for you. It's also custom. It's got everything that you need and it's got a calendar that will last you December, January and February.

00:04:17:20 - 00:04:43:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if you're a $4 a month member in March, that when that, spring pack will drop and boom, you got three more months of seasonal social media and you're just following my hybrid strategy, which also link down. Below is my episode on how following this strategy helped us to x our growth. In addition to that, you'll get all of the freebies and all the things over on my Patreon and my Patreon store.

00:04:43:09 - 00:05:06:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
My exclusive interview where I sat down with Jim, and Collider's Josh Bullman talking about the value of allowing students to disagree. That dropped a couple of weeks ago. So, you know you're going to get access to that, as well as, checklists and parent, communication guides and all sorts of things. Like I went in to doing 100, hoping to just vlog it out and map it out.

00:05:06:03 - 00:05:35:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I realized was I got sucked into the vortex and we all get sucked into where things get busy. And I saw old friends and I didn't have time to create content. But my pack back home from my youth ministry, my pack helped carry through the types of posts and gave me something to continue to post while I was able to soak in all of the info and all of the goodies from the do I am 100 conference, and I also got this shirt out of it.

00:05:35:24 - 00:06:03:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Actually, this one didn't come from the conference. This one came from Gold Member week. Hey, speaking of that, vlog style video, check this out. Here's what I learned. During that week. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a then some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five.

00:06:04:03 - 00:06:25:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on.

00:06:26:01 - 00:06:45:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. So if you want to let your weeks be like that, where when it gets busy, you still have something that's running on autopilot for you.

00:06:45:07 - 00:07:07:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
For social media, my winter seasonal social media pack is the key to that, and it's a great gift for you on Christmas morning. And if you consider joining, you can help get us to the finish line. Progress bar is here on screen so that you can see how many paid Hybrid Hero members we've gotten over this last month as we push towards January to that 25 goal.

00:07:07:23 - 00:07:23:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So that you can unlock that free coaching opportunity. But hey my friends, hope you've had a great episode. I thank you for being here with us. And until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid. Merry Christmas and we'll see you in 2026.

]]> Episode 180: Josh Boldman Taught Me THIS About Small Groupsโ€ฆ - DYM 100 Challenge Pt 2 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/180 163d310a-d22a-4f4a-a3ca-e5fd15e957c2 Thu, 18 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 180 Josh Boldman Taught Me THIS About Small Groupsโ€ฆ - DYM 100 Challenge Pt 2 full Nick Clason I didn't think this breakout session would have such an influence on me, but it surprisingly did! And I even got an exclusive interview with the workshop teacher to deep-dive into it! Plus, free coaching is still on the line for those who join Patreon before the month ends! 7:14 no I didn't think this breakout session would have such an influence on me, but it surprisingly did! And I even got an exclusive interview with the workshop teacher to deep-dive into it! Plus, free coaching is still on the line for those who join Patreon before the month ends! BECOME A HYBRID HERO https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry โ„๏ธ WINTER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/posts/winter-seasonal-144943791?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/180 30 CONNECTION IDEAS https://www.patreon.com/posts/30-small-group-141961735?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW https://www.patreon.com/posts/exclusive-josh-144080714?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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That line alone, plus this llama t shirt was worth the cost of the entire trip. Welcome, everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry shown in this episode, I'm detailing and outlining the three takeaways that I had from the do I am 100 conference in the last episode linked right here, we talked about programing and adding sounds and sound effects and just making our introduction a little bit more lively. 00:00:40:10 - 00:01:07:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what I saw and learned and took away from the D and 100 conference. And in this one, I'm gonna talk about a surprise breakout session that I did not expect. Now, here's the thing. Full disclosure, right? Like when I choose breakouts at a conference, more often than not, I'm choosing it based on the person. And so me and my friend Josh Bowman, like, I saw he was on the thing on the docket to lead a breakout. 00:01:07:14 - 00:01:30:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I just thought to myself, I just like this guy. I know what he's going to do is going to be good. I'm going to go support him. I would not say that the topic listed on the breakout was what interested me. What interested me was the author of the breakout, not the actual content of the breakout. Now, to be clear, I didn't disagree with the content of the breakout. 00:01:30:13 - 00:02:00:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It was essentially like how to make space for students to be able to disagree in your youth ministry. And I was like, okay, great. Like I love that. Like I'm here for that. And I think that that's a great topic. But his breakout was absolutely game changing. And like, I was shocked at not only how much I did agree, but some of the stuff he did that made me really think and wrestle with, oh man, like I'm not doing some of these things. 00:02:00:02 - 00:02:22:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I came back from the conference and I was debriefing, and I was downloading, and I thought to myself, like, that might be my biggest takeaway from the entire conference is how to do a better job of creating space for students to disagree. And now, as this episode drops middle of December, most of us have wrapped up our our fall semester of programing. 00:02:22:23 - 00:02:48:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We got Christmas services on the horizon and, then maybe a week off after Christmas and then we're back for the New year. And this is the perfect time to break something and to add something in. And so I actually got the chance to sit down and have an exclusive conversation with Josh, who, gave the premise for his breakout of why students need to be able to have the space to disagree. 00:02:48:14 - 00:03:07:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I ask some of the how questions, like, how do you go about instituting this change? How do you handle senior pastors? How do you handle leaders? Go ahead, take a listen in this clip. At first they were really skeptical. And we we, you know, we started like, preparing them like weeks out that this was this was coming. 00:03:07:26 - 00:03:35:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And always, you know, the small group leader is the one that has the questions. So like, really worst case scenario, they can skip it. It was kind of like, you know, like, so that's always like, how did it go? It was great. How did I because we didn't we didn't but we would always like we we started I mean, even in like some, some leader meetings or stuff, doing some kind of, some role playing type stuff where it was like, okay, hey, last week, you know, you all, we're here for last week's teaching. 00:03:35:02 - 00:04:13:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's imagine this was the question and somebody throw me, you throw out a couple things that maybe you think a student might have said. And it was really funny because, at first, even they were like, skittish with because they were in that moment, they were like, you want you want me to point out something you think a student would disagree with that you said, so we're going to try and figure out how to institute this better in our space to help give leaders, the comfort and the confidence to lean in and start asking some of these questions about what students might disagree with and hopefully stop trying to give students the quote, right 00:04:13:21 - 00:04:44:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry answer and start giving students the space to genuinely question and think and maybe even in some cases, disagree. You know, a couple weeks before I went to the do I am 100 conference, my church hosted a thing called the Cross Creek Collective, and I was actually on stage for it. And during that week, while I was in the middle of the busiest week of probably my year on staff, I decided I wanted to put my seasonal social media pack to the test. 00:04:44:28 - 00:05:17:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And at the end of the week, this is what I discovered. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute. Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. 00:05:17:18 - 00:05:34:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. 00:05:34:21 - 00:05:59:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But mine will at least keep you moving in the right direction. So the entire conversation with Josh Pullman is now over on my Patreon, as well as my winter seasonal social media pack. You can jump in for a week free trial to listen to the Boardman episode and to maybe, explore what the winter seasonal social media pack, how it could serve you in your ministry. 00:05:59:11 - 00:06:38:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's the fact you can't ignore social media any longer, and you need something that you can rely on when you get busy. And that's exactly what my pack is going to do. And we are moving towards trying to add 25 new free hybrid Hero members progress bars right here on the screen as of the editing date. And if we hit 25 members by the end of December, the beginning of January, then every single person who has a $4 per month Hybrid Hero member, they're going to get an exclusive free coaching call from me, included as a part of their $4 per month. 00:06:38:16 - 00:07:02:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It is such a great deal. $4 per month gets you a bonus episode, gets you all the freebies on my store, gives you all the paid things on my store, and now gets you a free coaching call $4 a month. That's all it is. It's less genuinely than a cup of coffee. And next week this episode is going to drop on Christmas Day. 00:07:02:02 - 00:07:13:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're listening live, you'll see it in your feed on Christmas Day. If not, it's going to be linked right here on screen so you can watch that one. But until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget stay hybrid. DYM100, DownloadYouthMinistry, Josh Boldman, Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, youth ministry, youth pastor tips, youth pastor training, student ministry, church media, christmas youth ministry, small group leader training, programming ideas for youth ministry, social media for churches, church social media, youth ministry ideas, hybrid ministry podcast, ym programming, dym conference, doug fields, brady shearer, sean cannell,DownloadYouthMinistry,Josh Boldman,Nick Clason,Hybrid Ministry,youth ministry,youth pastor tips,youth pastor training,student ministry,church media,christmas youth ministry,small group leader training,programming ideas for youth ministry,social media for churches,church social media,youth ministry ideas,hybrid ministry podcast,ym programming,dym conference,doug fields,brady shearer,sean cannell I didn't think this breakout session would have such an influence on me, but it surprisingly did!
And I even got an exclusive interview with the workshop teacher to deep-dive into it!

Plus, free coaching is still on the line for those who join Patreon before the month ends!

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Shownotes & Transcripts
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https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361

//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 DYM100 Thing 1
00:28 DYM100 is the Best!
01:42 Programming Shift
05:46 The Key to Social Media in 2026
06:35 December Patreon Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:40:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Regardless of where each individual question takes them. It's this bigger picture of having students being able to ask questions is actually really, really, really healthy. That line alone, plus this llama t shirt was worth the cost of the entire trip. Welcome, everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry shown in this episode, I'm detailing and outlining the three takeaways that I had from the do I am 100 conference in the last episode linked right here, we talked about programing and adding sounds and sound effects and just making our introduction a little bit more lively.

00:00:40:10 - 00:01:07:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I saw and learned and took away from the D and 100 conference. And in this one, I'm gonna talk about a surprise breakout session that I did not expect. Now, here's the thing. Full disclosure, right? Like when I choose breakouts at a conference, more often than not, I'm choosing it based on the person. And so me and my friend Josh Bowman, like, I saw he was on the thing on the docket to lead a breakout.

00:01:07:14 - 00:01:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I just thought to myself, I just like this guy. I know what he's going to do is going to be good. I'm going to go support him. I would not say that the topic listed on the breakout was what interested me. What interested me was the author of the breakout, not the actual content of the breakout. Now, to be clear, I didn't disagree with the content of the breakout.

00:01:30:13 - 00:02:00:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It was essentially like how to make space for students to be able to disagree in your youth ministry. And I was like, okay, great. Like I love that. Like I'm here for that. And I think that that's a great topic. But his breakout was absolutely game changing. And like, I was shocked at not only how much I did agree, but some of the stuff he did that made me really think and wrestle with, oh man, like I'm not doing some of these things.

00:02:00:02 - 00:02:22:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I came back from the conference and I was debriefing, and I was downloading, and I thought to myself, like, that might be my biggest takeaway from the entire conference is how to do a better job of creating space for students to disagree. And now, as this episode drops middle of December, most of us have wrapped up our our fall semester of programing.

00:02:22:23 - 00:02:48:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got Christmas services on the horizon and, then maybe a week off after Christmas and then we're back for the New year. And this is the perfect time to break something and to add something in. And so I actually got the chance to sit down and have an exclusive conversation with Josh, who, gave the premise for his breakout of why students need to be able to have the space to disagree.

00:02:48:14 - 00:03:07:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I ask some of the how questions, like, how do you go about instituting this change? How do you handle senior pastors? How do you handle leaders? Go ahead, take a listen in this clip. At first they were really skeptical. And we we, you know, we started like, preparing them like weeks out that this was this was coming.

00:03:07:26 - 00:03:35:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And always, you know, the small group leader is the one that has the questions. So like, really worst case scenario, they can skip it. It was kind of like, you know, like, so that's always like, how did it go? It was great. How did I because we didn't we didn't but we would always like we we started I mean, even in like some, some leader meetings or stuff, doing some kind of, some role playing type stuff where it was like, okay, hey, last week, you know, you all, we're here for last week's teaching.

00:03:35:02 - 00:04:13:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's imagine this was the question and somebody throw me, you throw out a couple things that maybe you think a student might have said. And it was really funny because, at first, even they were like, skittish with because they were in that moment, they were like, you want you want me to point out something you think a student would disagree with that you said, so we're going to try and figure out how to institute this better in our space to help give leaders, the comfort and the confidence to lean in and start asking some of these questions about what students might disagree with and hopefully stop trying to give students the quote, right

00:04:13:21 - 00:04:44:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
answer and start giving students the space to genuinely question and think and maybe even in some cases, disagree. You know, a couple weeks before I went to the do I am 100 conference, my church hosted a thing called the Cross Creek Collective, and I was actually on stage for it. And during that week, while I was in the middle of the busiest week of probably my year on staff, I decided I wanted to put my seasonal social media pack to the test.

00:04:44:28 - 00:05:17:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And at the end of the week, this is what I discovered. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute. Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social.

00:05:17:18 - 00:05:34:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there.

00:05:34:21 - 00:05:59:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But mine will at least keep you moving in the right direction. So the entire conversation with Josh Pullman is now over on my Patreon, as well as my winter seasonal social media pack. You can jump in for a week free trial to listen to the Boardman episode and to maybe, explore what the winter seasonal social media pack, how it could serve you in your ministry.

00:05:59:11 - 00:06:38:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the fact you can't ignore social media any longer, and you need something that you can rely on when you get busy. And that's exactly what my pack is going to do. And we are moving towards trying to add 25 new free hybrid Hero members progress bars right here on the screen as of the editing date. And if we hit 25 members by the end of December, the beginning of January, then every single person who has a $4 per month Hybrid Hero member, they're going to get an exclusive free coaching call from me, included as a part of their $4 per month.

00:06:38:16 - 00:07:02:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is such a great deal. $4 per month gets you a bonus episode, gets you all the freebies on my store, gives you all the paid things on my store, and now gets you a free coaching call $4 a month. That's all it is. It's less genuinely than a cup of coffee. And next week this episode is going to drop on Christmas Day.

00:07:02:02 - 00:07:13:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're listening live, you'll see it in your feed on Christmas Day. If not, it's going to be linked right here on screen so you can watch that one. But until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget stay hybrid.

]]> I didn't think this breakout session would have such an influence on me, but it surprisingly did!
And I even got an exclusive interview with the workshop teacher to deep-dive into it!

Plus, free coaching is still on the line for those who join Patreon before the month ends!

BECOME A HYBRID HERO
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry

โ„๏ธ WINTER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK
https://www.patreon.com/posts/winter-seasonal-144943791?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

SHOW NOTES
Shownotes & Transcripts
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/180

30 CONNECTION IDEAS
https://www.patreon.com/posts/30-small-group-141961735?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
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We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context!
The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe!
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๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU!
Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products
//VIDIQ
https://vidiq.com/hybrid

//BEST DYM RESOURCES
https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-amazing-dym-142425755

//OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS
https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361

//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 DYM100 Thing 1
00:28 DYM100 is the Best!
01:42 Programming Shift
05:46 The Key to Social Media in 2026
06:35 December Patreon Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:40:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Regardless of where each individual question takes them. It's this bigger picture of having students being able to ask questions is actually really, really, really healthy. That line alone, plus this llama t shirt was worth the cost of the entire trip. Welcome, everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry shown in this episode, I'm detailing and outlining the three takeaways that I had from the do I am 100 conference in the last episode linked right here, we talked about programing and adding sounds and sound effects and just making our introduction a little bit more lively.

00:00:40:10 - 00:01:07:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I saw and learned and took away from the D and 100 conference. And in this one, I'm gonna talk about a surprise breakout session that I did not expect. Now, here's the thing. Full disclosure, right? Like when I choose breakouts at a conference, more often than not, I'm choosing it based on the person. And so me and my friend Josh Bowman, like, I saw he was on the thing on the docket to lead a breakout.

00:01:07:14 - 00:01:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I just thought to myself, I just like this guy. I know what he's going to do is going to be good. I'm going to go support him. I would not say that the topic listed on the breakout was what interested me. What interested me was the author of the breakout, not the actual content of the breakout. Now, to be clear, I didn't disagree with the content of the breakout.

00:01:30:13 - 00:02:00:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It was essentially like how to make space for students to be able to disagree in your youth ministry. And I was like, okay, great. Like I love that. Like I'm here for that. And I think that that's a great topic. But his breakout was absolutely game changing. And like, I was shocked at not only how much I did agree, but some of the stuff he did that made me really think and wrestle with, oh man, like I'm not doing some of these things.

00:02:00:02 - 00:02:22:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I came back from the conference and I was debriefing, and I was downloading, and I thought to myself, like, that might be my biggest takeaway from the entire conference is how to do a better job of creating space for students to disagree. And now, as this episode drops middle of December, most of us have wrapped up our our fall semester of programing.

00:02:22:23 - 00:02:48:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got Christmas services on the horizon and, then maybe a week off after Christmas and then we're back for the New year. And this is the perfect time to break something and to add something in. And so I actually got the chance to sit down and have an exclusive conversation with Josh, who, gave the premise for his breakout of why students need to be able to have the space to disagree.

00:02:48:14 - 00:03:07:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I ask some of the how questions, like, how do you go about instituting this change? How do you handle senior pastors? How do you handle leaders? Go ahead, take a listen in this clip. At first they were really skeptical. And we we, you know, we started like, preparing them like weeks out that this was this was coming.

00:03:07:26 - 00:03:35:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And always, you know, the small group leader is the one that has the questions. So like, really worst case scenario, they can skip it. It was kind of like, you know, like, so that's always like, how did it go? It was great. How did I because we didn't we didn't but we would always like we we started I mean, even in like some, some leader meetings or stuff, doing some kind of, some role playing type stuff where it was like, okay, hey, last week, you know, you all, we're here for last week's teaching.

00:03:35:02 - 00:04:13:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's imagine this was the question and somebody throw me, you throw out a couple things that maybe you think a student might have said. And it was really funny because, at first, even they were like, skittish with because they were in that moment, they were like, you want you want me to point out something you think a student would disagree with that you said, so we're going to try and figure out how to institute this better in our space to help give leaders, the comfort and the confidence to lean in and start asking some of these questions about what students might disagree with and hopefully stop trying to give students the quote, right

00:04:13:21 - 00:04:44:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
answer and start giving students the space to genuinely question and think and maybe even in some cases, disagree. You know, a couple weeks before I went to the do I am 100 conference, my church hosted a thing called the Cross Creek Collective, and I was actually on stage for it. And during that week, while I was in the middle of the busiest week of probably my year on staff, I decided I wanted to put my seasonal social media pack to the test.

00:04:44:28 - 00:05:17:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And at the end of the week, this is what I discovered. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute. Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social.

00:05:17:18 - 00:05:34:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there.

00:05:34:21 - 00:05:59:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But mine will at least keep you moving in the right direction. So the entire conversation with Josh Pullman is now over on my Patreon, as well as my winter seasonal social media pack. You can jump in for a week free trial to listen to the Boardman episode and to maybe, explore what the winter seasonal social media pack, how it could serve you in your ministry.

00:05:59:11 - 00:06:38:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the fact you can't ignore social media any longer, and you need something that you can rely on when you get busy. And that's exactly what my pack is going to do. And we are moving towards trying to add 25 new free hybrid Hero members progress bars right here on the screen as of the editing date. And if we hit 25 members by the end of December, the beginning of January, then every single person who has a $4 per month Hybrid Hero member, they're going to get an exclusive free coaching call from me, included as a part of their $4 per month.

00:06:38:16 - 00:07:02:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is such a great deal. $4 per month gets you a bonus episode, gets you all the freebies on my store, gives you all the paid things on my store, and now gets you a free coaching call $4 a month. That's all it is. It's less genuinely than a cup of coffee. And next week this episode is going to drop on Christmas Day.

00:07:02:02 - 00:07:13:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're listening live, you'll see it in your feed on Christmas Day. If not, it's going to be linked right here on screen so you can watch that one. But until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget stay hybrid.

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Spoiler alert is not the one that I expected. Plus, stick around to the end of the episode because I am giving away a free Christmas party run sheet, complete with the resources and everything you need so you can grab that down bel 00:00:26:29 - 00:00:33:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Link in the description, which will go into detail and explain at the end of this episode. Welcome everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show. 00:00:33:19 - 00:00:44:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I went to the do I am 100 conference where I got this notebook and of course this llama t shirt, which, you know what? When else are you going to need to get a llama t shirt? 00:00:44:10 - 00:01:16:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're wearing it after the Darwin 100 conference, with the goal of coming away with three takeaways, and I was going to vlog it and take videos and explain my process. But man, if you've ever been to one of these events like you know that like you just get sucked into the vortex of friendship and community and conversations. And so I only took like 20 videos and like half of them are like receipt uploads or like videos of the van rental to make sure that they weren't going to scam me afterwards. 00:01:16:26 - 00:01:40:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in these next three episodes, I'm going to talk about not only things that you can use and learn and take away for, like your December Christmas parties, but also things that I and our youth ministry team are going to be thinking about on into the future of 2026 and how we do youth ministry. I also have some freebies and some stuff, going along and that I'm going to be giving away. 00:01:40:18 - 00:02:02:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So pay attention to the link down in the description for all of these next couple episodes. But in this episode we're going to be looking at, and the thing that I took away was programing. Okay. And like in the room, if you've ever been to a do I am 100 event, it is hosted by Doug Fields and Josh Griffin, who are both the masters at programing. 00:02:02:09 - 00:02:21:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like to the point that like I think we had we had one session with worship and it was like a special kind of like unplug, more like chapel and like spiritually charged, focused, kind of like session, but otherwise every other kind of like element within the room was done without any sort of worship or without any sort of band. 00:02:21:16 - 00:02:46:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But you never felt like something was missing. Like it was an amazingly programed event. And like, I have taken pride in my own programing to the point that I have my own Patreon show every single week detailing our youth ministry programing, detailing the creativity that we're trying to do. And in a lot of ways, my 9 to 10 different damn conferences that I've been to over the years have helped shape this. 00:02:46:06 - 00:03:05:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, I've taken a lot of my programing strategy and like things that matter to me from my experience at and under a do, I am conference. But in this event, I brought the rest of my team and one of my guys, his name is Ben. Ben is in charge of programing at our church and he took things that I have. 00:03:05:06 - 00:03:38:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Seen and noticed at conferences before in the past. But he's like, we need to implement that to the point he's like, we're going to make that happen. And those things were like the sound effects included and the music that were both happening simultaneous while any event was happening. Well, announcements. Well, funny bits. While different games like all these things all happening, all with different sound effects or different, music tracks being done in the background, like the sound effects, the booth and the, the stage, the, the, the energy that was happening between the two. 00:03:38:25 - 00:03:55:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry He was like, we need to find a way to do that. And that's that's the takeaway that surprised me because I've seen this before and I thought, there's no way our booth can pull it off or it's going to be too distracting. Or maybe we're trying too hard, but Ben, Ben's like, no, we can do this and we're going to pull this off. 00:03:55:19 - 00:04:13:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you didn't know, I found a link down below, from Crowd Control Games. They have a free, like, audio interface. So all you got to do is load in sound effects or sound bites. You can get them off of, like, YouTube or like a website, like Motion Array, and you can upload those different sound effects. 00:04:13:13 - 00:04:31:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we're going to try those things. And if you head down below, link down below is a completely free Christmas guide. It's actually from an episode linked right here, the top screen, with my friend Eric with the K, who also fun fact was a roommate and a table member at my table that I was leading the, church foyer. 00:04:31:22 - 00:04:51:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Carpet stains. But we did this episode years ago, and, I, I'm putting a little bit of a 2025 spin and refresh on it. And so there's a brand new, completely new game. That should be on the game either now or in the near future. But that's completely for free for you. Those of you that are either free or paid members over on my Patreon. 00:04:51:25 - 00:05:17:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can, become a free paid member and get that complete Christmas run sheet. If you haven't already had your Christmas party yet, but you can now include. And I'm going to challenge myself in our ministry to include more sound effects and really like part of what made the conference so engaging and so entertaining was the synchronicity between the upfront people, Griffin and Doug Fields, and the booth. 00:05:17:21 - 00:05:38:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so shout out to to them. And so my friend, my coworker Ben was back there and he was asking all the questions and stuff like that. And then sitting in the the Airbnb with my friend Eric later, he's like, look, you can use this thing from crowd control games, with sound effects. And so we're going to download these and we're going to start using them. 00:05:38:08 - 00:06:05:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I think it can just bring about another layer of liveliness and fun and creativity, which is already something that we're trying to do over on our Patreon. So that free Christmas party is linked down below in the show. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute. 00:06:05:26 - 00:06:26:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do. 00:06:26:14 - 00:06:44:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. And hey, we're trying to welcome 25 00:06:44:12 - 00:06:49:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry new paid hybrid heroes before January begins. 00:06:49:15 - 00:07:15:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if we hit that goal, if you help me accomplish that goal. So right now we are, like a handful of of those away, where you want to get 25 by the time January starts. If we hit that, I will offer free 30 minute social media audit and coaching session for every single person who has jumped in at the $4 per month membership tier. 00:07:15:11 - 00:07:41:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Listen, if you put that on your church's like professional or continuing development expense account, it's $48 for the year. It will help you with creativity and programing and all the freebies that I offer through my Patreon at any given time. Or if you don't have the church budget for it, it is, less than the cost of a Starbucks latte only one time a month if it comes out of your own personal budget. 00:07:41:10 - 00:08:11:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Either way is incredibly accessible. And the good news is my seasonal social media pack, which is available for everybody at the cost of $17.99, is available for those of you who are $4 a month, Hybrid Hero members is available to you included in the cost. And if we hit this 25, member benchmark, by the time January hits, I will extend a free coaching call to every single person who is in the Hybrid Heroes coaching level tier. 00:08:11:17 - 00:08:28:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so hopefully that is something that is, helpful to you. And so we're going to try and infuse some of our programing now with some of these things I learned from from the denim conference, just observing the programing and some of the games that they put together and some of the chaos and some of the fun. 00:08:28:25 - 00:08:52:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But all of it was was changed with the audio and the sound effects and the playlists and the music choices. It was it was amazing. It was crazy. It was fun. And I want to try your hand at it and, hand the keys over to some of our students in the booth doing that. But in the next episode, I'm actually going to talk about a small group shift that I learned that, I'm passionate about. 00:08:52:03 - 00:09:12:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the way that Josh Bulman in a workshop presented it absolutely changed the game. And I am sitting down with him for an exclusive interview that you are not going to want to miss. That episode is linked right here on screen. So my friends, go ahead and check that out. But until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid. 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In this episode I explore an area of adjustment I did NOT anticipate!

In this series, "The DYM100 Roundtables Summary" Series I explore the 3 areas that challenged me from the DYM100 Roundtables!

Plus, welcome to the December Patreon Challenge!
Become a Hybrid Hero ($4/month), help us get to 25 new members, and get a FREE Coaching call in 2026!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
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00:28 DYM100 is the Best!
01:42 Programming Shift
05:46 The Key to Social Media in 2026
06:35 December Patreon Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:26:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I went to the DYM 100 round tables with this goal to find three things to work on and fix in my youth ministry. And today I am sharing with you the first one. Spoiler alert is not the one that I expected. Plus, stick around to the end of the episode because I am giving away a free Christmas party run sheet, complete with the resources and everything you need so you can grab that down bel

00:00:26:29 - 00:00:33:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link in the description, which will go into detail and explain at the end of this episode. Welcome everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show.

00:00:33:19 - 00:00:44:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I went to the do I am 100 conference where I got this notebook and of course this llama t shirt, which, you know what? When else are you going to need to get a llama t shirt?

00:00:44:10 - 00:01:16:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're wearing it after the Darwin 100 conference, with the goal of coming away with three takeaways, and I was going to vlog it and take videos and explain my process. But man, if you've ever been to one of these events like you know that like you just get sucked into the vortex of friendship and community and conversations. And so I only took like 20 videos and like half of them are like receipt uploads or like videos of the van rental to make sure that they weren't going to scam me afterwards.

00:01:16:26 - 00:01:40:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in these next three episodes, I'm going to talk about not only things that you can use and learn and take away for, like your December Christmas parties, but also things that I and our youth ministry team are going to be thinking about on into the future of 2026 and how we do youth ministry. I also have some freebies and some stuff, going along and that I'm going to be giving away.

00:01:40:18 - 00:02:02:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So pay attention to the link down in the description for all of these next couple episodes. But in this episode we're going to be looking at, and the thing that I took away was programing. Okay. And like in the room, if you've ever been to a do I am 100 event, it is hosted by Doug Fields and Josh Griffin, who are both the masters at programing.

00:02:02:09 - 00:02:21:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like to the point that like I think we had we had one session with worship and it was like a special kind of like unplug, more like chapel and like spiritually charged, focused, kind of like session, but otherwise every other kind of like element within the room was done without any sort of worship or without any sort of band.

00:02:21:16 - 00:02:46:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But you never felt like something was missing. Like it was an amazingly programed event. And like, I have taken pride in my own programing to the point that I have my own Patreon show every single week detailing our youth ministry programing, detailing the creativity that we're trying to do. And in a lot of ways, my 9 to 10 different damn conferences that I've been to over the years have helped shape this.

00:02:46:06 - 00:03:05:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, I've taken a lot of my programing strategy and like things that matter to me from my experience at and under a do, I am conference. But in this event, I brought the rest of my team and one of my guys, his name is Ben. Ben is in charge of programing at our church and he took things that I have.

00:03:05:06 - 00:03:38:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Seen and noticed at conferences before in the past. But he's like, we need to implement that to the point he's like, we're going to make that happen. And those things were like the sound effects included and the music that were both happening simultaneous while any event was happening. Well, announcements. Well, funny bits. While different games like all these things all happening, all with different sound effects or different, music tracks being done in the background, like the sound effects, the booth and the, the stage, the, the, the energy that was happening between the two.

00:03:38:25 - 00:03:55:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He was like, we need to find a way to do that. And that's that's the takeaway that surprised me because I've seen this before and I thought, there's no way our booth can pull it off or it's going to be too distracting. Or maybe we're trying too hard, but Ben, Ben's like, no, we can do this and we're going to pull this off.

00:03:55:19 - 00:04:13:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you didn't know, I found a link down below, from Crowd Control Games. They have a free, like, audio interface. So all you got to do is load in sound effects or sound bites. You can get them off of, like, YouTube or like a website, like Motion Array, and you can upload those different sound effects.

00:04:13:13 - 00:04:31:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we're going to try those things. And if you head down below, link down below is a completely free Christmas guide. It's actually from an episode linked right here, the top screen, with my friend Eric with the K, who also fun fact was a roommate and a table member at my table that I was leading the, church foyer.

00:04:31:22 - 00:04:51:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Carpet stains. But we did this episode years ago, and, I, I'm putting a little bit of a 2025 spin and refresh on it. And so there's a brand new, completely new game. That should be on the game either now or in the near future. But that's completely for free for you. Those of you that are either free or paid members over on my Patreon.

00:04:51:25 - 00:05:17:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can, become a free paid member and get that complete Christmas run sheet. If you haven't already had your Christmas party yet, but you can now include. And I'm going to challenge myself in our ministry to include more sound effects and really like part of what made the conference so engaging and so entertaining was the synchronicity between the upfront people, Griffin and Doug Fields, and the booth.

00:05:17:21 - 00:05:38:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so shout out to to them. And so my friend, my coworker Ben was back there and he was asking all the questions and stuff like that. And then sitting in the the Airbnb with my friend Eric later, he's like, look, you can use this thing from crowd control games, with sound effects. And so we're going to download these and we're going to start using them.

00:05:38:08 - 00:06:05:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think it can just bring about another layer of liveliness and fun and creativity, which is already something that we're trying to do over on our Patreon. So that free Christmas party is linked down below in the show. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute.

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Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do.

00:06:26:14 - 00:06:44:12
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And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. And hey, we're trying to welcome 25

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new paid hybrid heroes before January begins.

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And so if we hit that goal, if you help me accomplish that goal. So right now we are, like a handful of of those away, where you want to get 25 by the time January starts. If we hit that, I will offer free 30 minute social media audit and coaching session for every single person who has jumped in at the $4 per month membership tier.

00:07:15:11 - 00:07:41:10
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Listen, if you put that on your church's like professional or continuing development expense account, it's $48 for the year. It will help you with creativity and programing and all the freebies that I offer through my Patreon at any given time. Or if you don't have the church budget for it, it is, less than the cost of a Starbucks latte only one time a month if it comes out of your own personal budget.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Either way is incredibly accessible. And the good news is my seasonal social media pack, which is available for everybody at the cost of $17.99, is available for those of you who are $4 a month, Hybrid Hero members is available to you included in the cost. And if we hit this 25, member benchmark, by the time January hits, I will extend a free coaching call to every single person who is in the Hybrid Heroes coaching level tier.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so hopefully that is something that is, helpful to you. And so we're going to try and infuse some of our programing now with some of these things I learned from from the denim conference, just observing the programing and some of the games that they put together and some of the chaos and some of the fun.

00:08:28:25 - 00:08:52:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But all of it was was changed with the audio and the sound effects and the playlists and the music choices. It was it was amazing. It was crazy. It was fun. And I want to try your hand at it and, hand the keys over to some of our students in the booth doing that. But in the next episode, I'm actually going to talk about a small group shift that I learned that, I'm passionate about.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the way that Josh Bulman in a workshop presented it absolutely changed the game. And I am sitting down with him for an exclusive interview that you are not going to want to miss. That episode is linked right here on screen. So my friends, go ahead and check that out. But until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

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00:28 DYM100 is the Best!
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05:46 The Key to Social Media in 2026
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:26:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I went to the DYM 100 round tables with this goal to find three things to work on and fix in my youth ministry. And today I am sharing with you the first one. Spoiler alert is not the one that I expected. Plus, stick around to the end of the episode because I am giving away a free Christmas party run sheet, complete with the resources and everything you need so you can grab that down bel

00:00:26:29 - 00:00:33:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link in the description, which will go into detail and explain at the end of this episode. Welcome everybody to the Hybrid Ministry show.

00:00:33:19 - 00:00:44:10
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So I went to the do I am 100 conference where I got this notebook and of course this llama t shirt, which, you know what? When else are you going to need to get a llama t shirt?

00:00:44:10 - 00:01:16:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're wearing it after the Darwin 100 conference, with the goal of coming away with three takeaways, and I was going to vlog it and take videos and explain my process. But man, if you've ever been to one of these events like you know that like you just get sucked into the vortex of friendship and community and conversations. And so I only took like 20 videos and like half of them are like receipt uploads or like videos of the van rental to make sure that they weren't going to scam me afterwards.

00:01:16:26 - 00:01:40:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in these next three episodes, I'm going to talk about not only things that you can use and learn and take away for, like your December Christmas parties, but also things that I and our youth ministry team are going to be thinking about on into the future of 2026 and how we do youth ministry. I also have some freebies and some stuff, going along and that I'm going to be giving away.

00:01:40:18 - 00:02:02:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So pay attention to the link down in the description for all of these next couple episodes. But in this episode we're going to be looking at, and the thing that I took away was programing. Okay. And like in the room, if you've ever been to a do I am 100 event, it is hosted by Doug Fields and Josh Griffin, who are both the masters at programing.

00:02:02:09 - 00:02:21:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like to the point that like I think we had we had one session with worship and it was like a special kind of like unplug, more like chapel and like spiritually charged, focused, kind of like session, but otherwise every other kind of like element within the room was done without any sort of worship or without any sort of band.

00:02:21:16 - 00:02:46:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But you never felt like something was missing. Like it was an amazingly programed event. And like, I have taken pride in my own programing to the point that I have my own Patreon show every single week detailing our youth ministry programing, detailing the creativity that we're trying to do. And in a lot of ways, my 9 to 10 different damn conferences that I've been to over the years have helped shape this.

00:02:46:06 - 00:03:05:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, I've taken a lot of my programing strategy and like things that matter to me from my experience at and under a do, I am conference. But in this event, I brought the rest of my team and one of my guys, his name is Ben. Ben is in charge of programing at our church and he took things that I have.

00:03:05:06 - 00:03:38:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Seen and noticed at conferences before in the past. But he's like, we need to implement that to the point he's like, we're going to make that happen. And those things were like the sound effects included and the music that were both happening simultaneous while any event was happening. Well, announcements. Well, funny bits. While different games like all these things all happening, all with different sound effects or different, music tracks being done in the background, like the sound effects, the booth and the, the stage, the, the, the energy that was happening between the two.

00:03:38:25 - 00:03:55:19
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He was like, we need to find a way to do that. And that's that's the takeaway that surprised me because I've seen this before and I thought, there's no way our booth can pull it off or it's going to be too distracting. Or maybe we're trying too hard, but Ben, Ben's like, no, we can do this and we're going to pull this off.

00:03:55:19 - 00:04:13:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you didn't know, I found a link down below, from Crowd Control Games. They have a free, like, audio interface. So all you got to do is load in sound effects or sound bites. You can get them off of, like, YouTube or like a website, like Motion Array, and you can upload those different sound effects.

00:04:13:13 - 00:04:31:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we're going to try those things. And if you head down below, link down below is a completely free Christmas guide. It's actually from an episode linked right here, the top screen, with my friend Eric with the K, who also fun fact was a roommate and a table member at my table that I was leading the, church foyer.

00:04:31:22 - 00:04:51:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Carpet stains. But we did this episode years ago, and, I, I'm putting a little bit of a 2025 spin and refresh on it. And so there's a brand new, completely new game. That should be on the game either now or in the near future. But that's completely for free for you. Those of you that are either free or paid members over on my Patreon.

00:04:51:25 - 00:05:17:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can, become a free paid member and get that complete Christmas run sheet. If you haven't already had your Christmas party yet, but you can now include. And I'm going to challenge myself in our ministry to include more sound effects and really like part of what made the conference so engaging and so entertaining was the synchronicity between the upfront people, Griffin and Doug Fields, and the booth.

00:05:17:21 - 00:05:38:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so shout out to to them. And so my friend, my coworker Ben was back there and he was asking all the questions and stuff like that. And then sitting in the the Airbnb with my friend Eric later, he's like, look, you can use this thing from crowd control games, with sound effects. And so we're going to download these and we're going to start using them.

00:05:38:08 - 00:06:05:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think it can just bring about another layer of liveliness and fun and creativity, which is already something that we're trying to do over on our Patreon. So that free Christmas party is linked down below in the show. Imagine it's six minutes per week. Have your entire social media strategy done for you. I mean, think about it like three months of youth ministry content for just $0.23 a minute.

00:06:05:26 - 00:06:26:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Some weeks it takes me seven, other weeks it takes me five. But the point is, and especially at the end of this, as I was sitting in my youth ministry leader cohort, everyone said time management and scheduling was the issue with staying consistent on social. So my recommendation would be take my pack, let it be the the basics of what you do.

00:06:26:14 - 00:06:44:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you do get busy, if something else comes up, you have something to fall back on. And then when you do have the creative energy to create something more custom and more elaborate, scrap one of mine and put one of your own in there. But mine will at least keep you moving in. And hey, we're trying to welcome 25

00:06:44:12 - 00:06:49:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
new paid hybrid heroes before January begins.

00:06:49:15 - 00:07:15:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if we hit that goal, if you help me accomplish that goal. So right now we are, like a handful of of those away, where you want to get 25 by the time January starts. If we hit that, I will offer free 30 minute social media audit and coaching session for every single person who has jumped in at the $4 per month membership tier.

00:07:15:11 - 00:07:41:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Listen, if you put that on your church's like professional or continuing development expense account, it's $48 for the year. It will help you with creativity and programing and all the freebies that I offer through my Patreon at any given time. Or if you don't have the church budget for it, it is, less than the cost of a Starbucks latte only one time a month if it comes out of your own personal budget.

00:07:41:10 - 00:08:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Either way is incredibly accessible. And the good news is my seasonal social media pack, which is available for everybody at the cost of $17.99, is available for those of you who are $4 a month, Hybrid Hero members is available to you included in the cost. And if we hit this 25, member benchmark, by the time January hits, I will extend a free coaching call to every single person who is in the Hybrid Heroes coaching level tier.

00:08:11:17 - 00:08:28:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so hopefully that is something that is, helpful to you. And so we're going to try and infuse some of our programing now with some of these things I learned from from the denim conference, just observing the programing and some of the games that they put together and some of the chaos and some of the fun.

00:08:28:25 - 00:08:52:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But all of it was was changed with the audio and the sound effects and the playlists and the music choices. It was it was amazing. It was crazy. It was fun. And I want to try your hand at it and, hand the keys over to some of our students in the booth doing that. But in the next episode, I'm actually going to talk about a small group shift that I learned that, I'm passionate about.

00:08:52:03 - 00:09:12:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the way that Josh Bulman in a workshop presented it absolutely changed the game. And I am sitting down with him for an exclusive interview that you are not going to want to miss. That episode is linked right here on screen. So my friends, go ahead and check that out. But until next time. And as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 174: 5 LEVELS OF TAMING A WILD YOUTH ROOM https://www.hybridministry.xyz/174 0f97372d-63c2-404b-9aea-846e8e93910b Thu, 06 Nov 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 174 5 LEVELS OF TAMING A WILD YOUTH ROOM full Nick Clason There's nothing worse than speaking to an out of control room full of students. In this episode, I explain my 5 levels, escalating to most effective, way to control a wild room with your teaching content and approach. Be sure to stick around to hear how Marvel has cracked the attention span conundrum. 11:51 no There's nothing worse than speaking to an out of control room full of students. In this episode, I explain my 5 levels, escalating to most effective, way to control a wild room with your teaching content and approach. 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But over my last 15 years, I began to wonder what if part of the chaos is actually my fault? 00:00:24:19 - 00:00:45:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Today, I'm going to be breaking down the five levels of taming a wild youth through and at the end of the show, make sure that you stick around, because I am going to share with you the shift that Marvel understands that I saw, that I began to start to see students truly lean in without needing to raise my voice. 00:00:45:16 - 00:01:11:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show. Today we're addressing this question. How do you handle disruptions during teaching time? I'm tired of stopping my lessons to redirect a few, and in this episode, I want to detail and outline my five levels of taming a wild room. And here's what you got to understand is that I actually invite and embrace chaos. 00:01:11:09 - 00:01:32:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like in our space. We could very easily, and let's be honest, probably even more, I probably even make a little bit more sense for us to do it in rows, but instead we're a middle school heavy on Wednesday night, midweek, type of context. And we put them around round tables. And last year we increased our chair intake around the tables from 8 to 10. 00:01:32:08 - 00:01:52:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we're inviting even more chaos to sit around each of those tables. That being said, it's a calculated risk that I try to facilitate and operate with the idea of community, worth and willing to take that risk so that we can get the better. And on the other side, however, that does mean that sometimes we do face a wild room. 00:01:52:21 - 00:02:12:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So with that being said, let's dive into my five different levels. Level number one is this tell them. All right. Tell them to stop talking and I get it. And that and that question you're saying like I'm tired of doing that. Now, if you are doing that on a regular basis, then maybe some of these other levels are going to be worth your while. 00:02:12:13 - 00:02:31:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But to start it off, if you have a wild room, you just need to very simply like be firm. And actually it's interesting because I asked a group of, table leaders that I have in my youth ministry, that try to actually help keep some of my students on track and keep some of our, our, lessons, like on the rails, so to speak. 00:02:31:10 - 00:02:48:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And they were asking me the other day, like, how do you do that? How do you lean in to kind of that with, with students? And I ask you guys, do you guys think that I mean, like, do you consider me personally mean? And they're like, no, not at all. And I was like, but am I able and willing to be firm when I need to know? 00:02:48:26 - 00:03:12:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, oh yeah, definitely. And so you have to understand that if you're the youth pastor, maybe you're young, maybe you're afraid of like, people thinking you mean students not liking you. Like you can still be firm and they can still like you? Those two things are allowed to be the same thing at the same time. Right? And another thing that I've actually even done is like, I've gone directly up to some of the bigger tables, in the last couple of weeks. 00:03:12:24 - 00:03:26:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I said, hey, listen, do you guys want me to split you into two tables? Like, no, no, no, please don't do that. Please don't do that. And I'm like, great, I will not. But I'm also going to expect you to act like adults, which means I am not going to ask you guys multiple times to be quiet. 00:03:26:27 - 00:03:40:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if I do have to ask you to be quiet, then I will begin to split the tables. But if I can trust you, and if you can lock in, if you can engage, then I'll let you stay together. And that that has actually really worked really well for some of our tables. Because you know how it is. 00:03:41:00 - 00:04:16:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You got a big table. You look over there, this is what you get. It wasn't me, it was them. It was their zoom. It was then. It wasn't me. So the second level is know them, right? No. These students know how they learn. Right. And one of the things that we have leaned into consistently is I cannot tell you in youth ministry, the last time that I spoke my entire message without any sort of gap or without any sort of break, like youth pastor, if you're trying to teach for 30 minutes straight, like, what are you doing? 00:04:16:14 - 00:04:53:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, you know that your students don't learn that way. In fact, if you look here at the Pyramid of learning, auditory lecture style based learning is the least effective of all the styles of learning. So why are you trying to keep their attention with a lecture style message for 30 or greater minutes? In fact, there's like the whole theory that, Gen Z and Gen Alpha's attention span is less than seven seconds, and we get that data from click through rates and like, bounce off rates from websites like people spend only on average seven seconds or less on a website. 00:04:53:28 - 00:05:14:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the theory is that they have a shorter attention span than a goldfish. But the reality is, is that they know within seven seconds or less if this thing is going to be worth their time. Take for example, on the other hand, the flip side, the highest grossing movie movies of all time are all greater than 2 to 3 hours. 00:05:14:04 - 00:05:37:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Avengers endgame is an over three hour movie, and when it came out, it became the highest grossing movie of all time. Why can't a movie that's greater than 3.5 hour or greater than three hours, at least keep a student's attention because it knows how to keep things moving and students, if they're interested, they will lean in. So know them and break your message up with a gap in the middle. 00:05:37:10 - 00:05:59:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yet for some reason, you continue to drone on and this is what you get. The inside of a middle school boy's brain. Did I eat dinner? Is his shirt inside out? When is this? Over six. Seven? Is it actually why? I have a Patreon devoted to this. Every single week I share with you how I'm breaking up my message. 00:05:59:20 - 00:06:25:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in the past, when I was younger, listening to the way other youth pastors that are a little bit further along than me were planning and programing their services, help get my creative juices going. So for just $4 a month, $48 for a year, not only will you get my weekly breakdown of what we're doing in our youth ministry, but you'll also get access to my full seasonal social media pack in all the seasonal social media packs as the seasons rotate through. 00:06:25:29 - 00:06:43:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day? Is youth pastor scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall. 00:06:43:03 - 00:07:06:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's why I created this the fast seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here's the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon. 00:07:06:14 - 00:07:26:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And did you know that monthly Hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting. 00:07:26:25 - 00:07:55:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. The third thing I want to, challenge you to do is to include them, right? Like include the students. And so one of the things that we do is in addition to the breaks is while we're in the gaps of our teaching, we'll also include moments that we call table talks. 00:07:55:08 - 00:08:16:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you don't have the ability to set tables, you can also call it a turn and talk. And you still get the alliteration, which is exactly what all of us Baptists want to do. But we have to somehow try and move our students from a passive consumer to an active contributor. And I get it. Like most churches in America, especially like big church where you're senior pastors, preaching is a passive consumer setting. 00:08:16:08 - 00:08:36:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But we say you need to get involved in serve. You need to get involved in the community. You need to get involved in the life of our church. And yet then the way to get involved is just make sure that you come and sit here and listen to us talk instead. What if you gave them an opportunity to, think through this, to analyze, to evaluate, to discuss, to wrestle with the truth that's coming at them from God's Word. 00:08:36:27 - 00:08:47:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And when I'm teaching, teaching, teaching. And then all of a sudden I throw a table, talk. They're not allowed to just sit there like this anymore. 00:08:47:28 - 00:09:12:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't, I will, I wasn't listening. Well, what do you say to when I throw a table talk? I say, hey, listen out loud with words. Go. The fourth level is to engage them. So give breaks, create table talk. So these are both natural rhythms and breaks and pattern interrupts that are going to help with the kind of Marvel theory, the keep it moving. 00:09:12:08 - 00:09:34:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Keep it going. Don't get stale, don't get stagnant seven second thing but now when you're actually teaching, use creativity. And once again, this is why I have my Patreon, because I want to help you lean into your creativity. You can make your illustrations better, right? Like we're using Collider. And one of the lessons, was talking about a dog pooping on the lawn. 00:09:34:22 - 00:10:06:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, that's a great illustration of a self collider. Best curriculum on the planet. Use hybrid ministry. 1001 word to get 10% off your first year of it. But I punched it up a little bit. How I, I took their dog pooping illustration, and I added a photo of a cute dog. All right. And then after adding the photo of the cute dog, I decided, hey, let's name this cute dog to the point that as I'm making this illustration about forgiveness of a dog pooping on your front lawn, I had a student all the way leaned in, eventually. 00:10:06:21 - 00:10:38:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Say we named the dog Buttercup based off the sidekick voting feature. I said, hey, Buttercup, is cooked, okay? And you got to be using sidekick on the regular because you can add in things. And I added this one on the fly. In fact, on the episode, I just recorded five minutes ago, the breakdown episode, I explained to you how I came up with this and how I instituted it, and link down below in the show notes will help you know how you can run sidekick and pro presenter at the exact same time, but you need to engage their creativity. 00:10:39:05 - 00:11:00:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You need to make your your lessons and your illustrations more creative and help them lean in. And then the fifth and final, level here of, teaching a wild room is to actually teach them, like, actually teach them God's Word. In fact, in an episode link down below, I talk about a couple students who came up to me afterward and they said, you need to do that more. 00:11:00:25 - 00:11:28:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I was like, what is that? And they said, you, you actually like, taught us, like you gave us like a sheet of paper or our Bible, and you were underlining and circling and drawing arrows and, and helping, create like parallels between different like things in the text, like, do that more like actually leaning in to teach them, not just give them a motivational message, not just give them creativity, not just break up our programing, but actually teach them something valuable and meaningful found in God's Word. 00:11:28:22 - 00:11:50:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's the fifth level of helping tame a wild room and doing all five of these things on a regular and consistent basis for us has really helped lean in and created value and opportunity within our youth ministry. Well, hey everyone, I hope you found this episode helpful. Tap the next episode. Subscribe here on screen. But until next time and as always, don't forget stay hybrid. youth ministry,youth pastor tips,how to teach youth group,student ministry training,classroom management for youth pastors,how to handle distractions in youth ministry,taming a wild youth room,chaos to control,youth group discipline,how to keep teens engaged,hybrid ministry,nick clason,download youth ministry,coleader,youth ministry teaching tips,how to get students to listen,creative youth lessons,student engagement church ministry,teach teens bible,church leadership training There's nothing worse than speaking to an out of control room full of students.
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 How to Teach a Wild Room
00:48 Iโ€™m a glutton for chaos
01:56 Level 1: Tell Them
03:50 Level 2: Know Them
07:40 Level 3: Include Them
08:59 Level 4: Engage Them
10:44 Level 5: Teach Them

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:07 - 00:00:24:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, that moment that you're trying to teach, and two kids start whispering to each other, someone's throwing a sock, and somehow some how slime is involved. You know, early on in my youth ministry days, I knew that the students were the problem. But over my last 15 years, I began to wonder what if part of the chaos is actually my fault?

00:00:24:19 - 00:00:45:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Today, I'm going to be breaking down the five levels of taming a wild youth through and at the end of the show, make sure that you stick around, because I am going to share with you the shift that Marvel understands that I saw, that I began to start to see students truly lean in without needing to raise my voice.

00:00:45:16 - 00:01:11:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show. Today we're addressing this question. How do you handle disruptions during teaching time? I'm tired of stopping my lessons to redirect a few, and in this episode, I want to detail and outline my five levels of taming a wild room. And here's what you got to understand is that I actually invite and embrace chaos.

00:01:11:09 - 00:01:32:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like in our space. We could very easily, and let's be honest, probably even more, I probably even make a little bit more sense for us to do it in rows, but instead we're a middle school heavy on Wednesday night, midweek, type of context. And we put them around round tables. And last year we increased our chair intake around the tables from 8 to 10.

00:01:32:08 - 00:01:52:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we're inviting even more chaos to sit around each of those tables. That being said, it's a calculated risk that I try to facilitate and operate with the idea of community, worth and willing to take that risk so that we can get the better. And on the other side, however, that does mean that sometimes we do face a wild room.

00:01:52:21 - 00:02:12:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So with that being said, let's dive into my five different levels. Level number one is this tell them. All right. Tell them to stop talking and I get it. And that and that question you're saying like I'm tired of doing that. Now, if you are doing that on a regular basis, then maybe some of these other levels are going to be worth your while.

00:02:12:13 - 00:02:31:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But to start it off, if you have a wild room, you just need to very simply like be firm. And actually it's interesting because I asked a group of, table leaders that I have in my youth ministry, that try to actually help keep some of my students on track and keep some of our, our, lessons, like on the rails, so to speak.

00:02:31:10 - 00:02:48:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And they were asking me the other day, like, how do you do that? How do you lean in to kind of that with, with students? And I ask you guys, do you guys think that I mean, like, do you consider me personally mean? And they're like, no, not at all. And I was like, but am I able and willing to be firm when I need to know?

00:02:48:26 - 00:03:12:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, oh yeah, definitely. And so you have to understand that if you're the youth pastor, maybe you're young, maybe you're afraid of like, people thinking you mean students not liking you. Like you can still be firm and they can still like you? Those two things are allowed to be the same thing at the same time. Right? And another thing that I've actually even done is like, I've gone directly up to some of the bigger tables, in the last couple of weeks.

00:03:12:24 - 00:03:26:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I said, hey, listen, do you guys want me to split you into two tables? Like, no, no, no, please don't do that. Please don't do that. And I'm like, great, I will not. But I'm also going to expect you to act like adults, which means I am not going to ask you guys multiple times to be quiet.

00:03:26:27 - 00:03:40:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if I do have to ask you to be quiet, then I will begin to split the tables. But if I can trust you, and if you can lock in, if you can engage, then I'll let you stay together. And that that has actually really worked really well for some of our tables. Because you know how it is.

00:03:41:00 - 00:04:16:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You got a big table. You look over there, this is what you get. It wasn't me, it was them. It was their zoom. It was then. It wasn't me. So the second level is know them, right? No. These students know how they learn. Right. And one of the things that we have leaned into consistently is I cannot tell you in youth ministry, the last time that I spoke my entire message without any sort of gap or without any sort of break, like youth pastor, if you're trying to teach for 30 minutes straight, like, what are you doing?

00:04:16:14 - 00:04:53:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, you know that your students don't learn that way. In fact, if you look here at the Pyramid of learning, auditory lecture style based learning is the least effective of all the styles of learning. So why are you trying to keep their attention with a lecture style message for 30 or greater minutes? In fact, there's like the whole theory that, Gen Z and Gen Alpha's attention span is less than seven seconds, and we get that data from click through rates and like, bounce off rates from websites like people spend only on average seven seconds or less on a website.

00:04:53:28 - 00:05:14:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the theory is that they have a shorter attention span than a goldfish. But the reality is, is that they know within seven seconds or less if this thing is going to be worth their time. Take for example, on the other hand, the flip side, the highest grossing movie movies of all time are all greater than 2 to 3 hours.

00:05:14:04 - 00:05:37:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Avengers endgame is an over three hour movie, and when it came out, it became the highest grossing movie of all time. Why can't a movie that's greater than 3.5 hour or greater than three hours, at least keep a student's attention because it knows how to keep things moving and students, if they're interested, they will lean in. So know them and break your message up with a gap in the middle.

00:05:37:10 - 00:05:59:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yet for some reason, you continue to drone on and this is what you get. The inside of a middle school boy's brain. Did I eat dinner? Is his shirt inside out? When is this? Over six. Seven? Is it actually why? I have a Patreon devoted to this. Every single week I share with you how I'm breaking up my message.

00:05:59:20 - 00:06:25:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in the past, when I was younger, listening to the way other youth pastors that are a little bit further along than me were planning and programing their services, help get my creative juices going. So for just $4 a month, $48 for a year, not only will you get my weekly breakdown of what we're doing in our youth ministry, but you'll also get access to my full seasonal social media pack in all the seasonal social media packs as the seasons rotate through.

00:06:25:29 - 00:06:43:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day? Is youth pastor scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall.

00:06:43:03 - 00:07:06:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's why I created this the fast seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here's the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.

00:07:06:14 - 00:07:26:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And did you know that monthly Hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.

00:07:26:25 - 00:07:55:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. The third thing I want to, challenge you to do is to include them, right? Like include the students. And so one of the things that we do is in addition to the breaks is while we're in the gaps of our teaching, we'll also include moments that we call table talks.

00:07:55:08 - 00:08:16:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you don't have the ability to set tables, you can also call it a turn and talk. And you still get the alliteration, which is exactly what all of us Baptists want to do. But we have to somehow try and move our students from a passive consumer to an active contributor. And I get it. Like most churches in America, especially like big church where you're senior pastors, preaching is a passive consumer setting.

00:08:16:08 - 00:08:36:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But we say you need to get involved in serve. You need to get involved in the community. You need to get involved in the life of our church. And yet then the way to get involved is just make sure that you come and sit here and listen to us talk instead. What if you gave them an opportunity to, think through this, to analyze, to evaluate, to discuss, to wrestle with the truth that's coming at them from God's Word.

00:08:36:27 - 00:08:47:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And when I'm teaching, teaching, teaching. And then all of a sudden I throw a table, talk. They're not allowed to just sit there like this anymore.

00:08:47:28 - 00:09:12:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I don't, I will, I wasn't listening. Well, what do you say to when I throw a table talk? I say, hey, listen out loud with words. Go. The fourth level is to engage them. So give breaks, create table talk. So these are both natural rhythms and breaks and pattern interrupts that are going to help with the kind of Marvel theory, the keep it moving.

00:09:12:08 - 00:09:34:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Keep it going. Don't get stale, don't get stagnant seven second thing but now when you're actually teaching, use creativity. And once again, this is why I have my Patreon, because I want to help you lean into your creativity. You can make your illustrations better, right? Like we're using Collider. And one of the lessons, was talking about a dog pooping on the lawn.

00:09:34:22 - 00:10:06:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, that's a great illustration of a self collider. Best curriculum on the planet. Use hybrid ministry. 1001 word to get 10% off your first year of it. But I punched it up a little bit. How I, I took their dog pooping illustration, and I added a photo of a cute dog. All right. And then after adding the photo of the cute dog, I decided, hey, let's name this cute dog to the point that as I'm making this illustration about forgiveness of a dog pooping on your front lawn, I had a student all the way leaned in, eventually.

00:10:06:21 - 00:10:38:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Say we named the dog Buttercup based off the sidekick voting feature. I said, hey, Buttercup, is cooked, okay? And you got to be using sidekick on the regular because you can add in things. And I added this one on the fly. In fact, on the episode, I just recorded five minutes ago, the breakdown episode, I explained to you how I came up with this and how I instituted it, and link down below in the show notes will help you know how you can run sidekick and pro presenter at the exact same time, but you need to engage their creativity.

00:10:39:05 - 00:11:00:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You need to make your your lessons and your illustrations more creative and help them lean in. And then the fifth and final, level here of, teaching a wild room is to actually teach them, like, actually teach them God's Word. In fact, in an episode link down below, I talk about a couple students who came up to me afterward and they said, you need to do that more.

00:11:00:25 - 00:11:28:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I was like, what is that? And they said, you, you actually like, taught us, like you gave us like a sheet of paper or our Bible, and you were underlining and circling and drawing arrows and, and helping, create like parallels between different like things in the text, like, do that more like actually leaning in to teach them, not just give them a motivational message, not just give them creativity, not just break up our programing, but actually teach them something valuable and meaningful found in God's Word.

00:11:28:22 - 00:11:50:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the fifth level of helping tame a wild room and doing all five of these things on a regular and consistent basis for us has really helped lean in and created value and opportunity within our youth ministry. Well, hey everyone, I hope you found this episode helpful. Tap the next episode. Subscribe here on screen. But until next time and as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

]]> There's nothing worse than speaking to an out of control room full of students.
In this episode, I explain my 5 levels, escalating to most effective, way to control a wild room with your teaching content and approach. Be sure to stick around to hear how Marvel has cracked the attention span conundrum.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 How to Teach a Wild Room
00:48 Iโ€™m a glutton for chaos
01:56 Level 1: Tell Them
03:50 Level 2: Know Them
07:40 Level 3: Include Them
08:59 Level 4: Engage Them
10:44 Level 5: Teach Them

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:07 - 00:00:24:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, that moment that you're trying to teach, and two kids start whispering to each other, someone's throwing a sock, and somehow some how slime is involved. You know, early on in my youth ministry days, I knew that the students were the problem. But over my last 15 years, I began to wonder what if part of the chaos is actually my fault?

00:00:24:19 - 00:00:45:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Today, I'm going to be breaking down the five levels of taming a wild youth through and at the end of the show, make sure that you stick around, because I am going to share with you the shift that Marvel understands that I saw, that I began to start to see students truly lean in without needing to raise my voice.

00:00:45:16 - 00:01:11:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show. Today we're addressing this question. How do you handle disruptions during teaching time? I'm tired of stopping my lessons to redirect a few, and in this episode, I want to detail and outline my five levels of taming a wild room. And here's what you got to understand is that I actually invite and embrace chaos.

00:01:11:09 - 00:01:32:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like in our space. We could very easily, and let's be honest, probably even more, I probably even make a little bit more sense for us to do it in rows, but instead we're a middle school heavy on Wednesday night, midweek, type of context. And we put them around round tables. And last year we increased our chair intake around the tables from 8 to 10.

00:01:32:08 - 00:01:52:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we're inviting even more chaos to sit around each of those tables. That being said, it's a calculated risk that I try to facilitate and operate with the idea of community, worth and willing to take that risk so that we can get the better. And on the other side, however, that does mean that sometimes we do face a wild room.

00:01:52:21 - 00:02:12:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So with that being said, let's dive into my five different levels. Level number one is this tell them. All right. Tell them to stop talking and I get it. And that and that question you're saying like I'm tired of doing that. Now, if you are doing that on a regular basis, then maybe some of these other levels are going to be worth your while.

00:02:12:13 - 00:02:31:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But to start it off, if you have a wild room, you just need to very simply like be firm. And actually it's interesting because I asked a group of, table leaders that I have in my youth ministry, that try to actually help keep some of my students on track and keep some of our, our, lessons, like on the rails, so to speak.

00:02:31:10 - 00:02:48:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And they were asking me the other day, like, how do you do that? How do you lean in to kind of that with, with students? And I ask you guys, do you guys think that I mean, like, do you consider me personally mean? And they're like, no, not at all. And I was like, but am I able and willing to be firm when I need to know?

00:02:48:26 - 00:03:12:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, oh yeah, definitely. And so you have to understand that if you're the youth pastor, maybe you're young, maybe you're afraid of like, people thinking you mean students not liking you. Like you can still be firm and they can still like you? Those two things are allowed to be the same thing at the same time. Right? And another thing that I've actually even done is like, I've gone directly up to some of the bigger tables, in the last couple of weeks.

00:03:12:24 - 00:03:26:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I said, hey, listen, do you guys want me to split you into two tables? Like, no, no, no, please don't do that. Please don't do that. And I'm like, great, I will not. But I'm also going to expect you to act like adults, which means I am not going to ask you guys multiple times to be quiet.

00:03:26:27 - 00:03:40:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if I do have to ask you to be quiet, then I will begin to split the tables. But if I can trust you, and if you can lock in, if you can engage, then I'll let you stay together. And that that has actually really worked really well for some of our tables. Because you know how it is.

00:03:41:00 - 00:04:16:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You got a big table. You look over there, this is what you get. It wasn't me, it was them. It was their zoom. It was then. It wasn't me. So the second level is know them, right? No. These students know how they learn. Right. And one of the things that we have leaned into consistently is I cannot tell you in youth ministry, the last time that I spoke my entire message without any sort of gap or without any sort of break, like youth pastor, if you're trying to teach for 30 minutes straight, like, what are you doing?

00:04:16:14 - 00:04:53:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, you know that your students don't learn that way. In fact, if you look here at the Pyramid of learning, auditory lecture style based learning is the least effective of all the styles of learning. So why are you trying to keep their attention with a lecture style message for 30 or greater minutes? In fact, there's like the whole theory that, Gen Z and Gen Alpha's attention span is less than seven seconds, and we get that data from click through rates and like, bounce off rates from websites like people spend only on average seven seconds or less on a website.

00:04:53:28 - 00:05:14:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the theory is that they have a shorter attention span than a goldfish. But the reality is, is that they know within seven seconds or less if this thing is going to be worth their time. Take for example, on the other hand, the flip side, the highest grossing movie movies of all time are all greater than 2 to 3 hours.

00:05:14:04 - 00:05:37:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Avengers endgame is an over three hour movie, and when it came out, it became the highest grossing movie of all time. Why can't a movie that's greater than 3.5 hour or greater than three hours, at least keep a student's attention because it knows how to keep things moving and students, if they're interested, they will lean in. So know them and break your message up with a gap in the middle.

00:05:37:10 - 00:05:59:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yet for some reason, you continue to drone on and this is what you get. The inside of a middle school boy's brain. Did I eat dinner? Is his shirt inside out? When is this? Over six. Seven? Is it actually why? I have a Patreon devoted to this. Every single week I share with you how I'm breaking up my message.

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And in the past, when I was younger, listening to the way other youth pastors that are a little bit further along than me were planning and programing their services, help get my creative juices going. So for just $4 a month, $48 for a year, not only will you get my weekly breakdown of what we're doing in our youth ministry, but you'll also get access to my full seasonal social media pack in all the seasonal social media packs as the seasons rotate through.

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Hey quick break, let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day? Is youth pastor scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall.

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That's why I created this the fast seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts. See? See? Here's the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.

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And did you know that monthly Hybrid hero Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast? They get this pack completely for free. So if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12. Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.

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And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. The third thing I want to, challenge you to do is to include them, right? Like include the students. And so one of the things that we do is in addition to the breaks is while we're in the gaps of our teaching, we'll also include moments that we call table talks.

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And if you don't have the ability to set tables, you can also call it a turn and talk. And you still get the alliteration, which is exactly what all of us Baptists want to do. But we have to somehow try and move our students from a passive consumer to an active contributor. And I get it. Like most churches in America, especially like big church where you're senior pastors, preaching is a passive consumer setting.

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But we say you need to get involved in serve. You need to get involved in the community. You need to get involved in the life of our church. And yet then the way to get involved is just make sure that you come and sit here and listen to us talk instead. What if you gave them an opportunity to, think through this, to analyze, to evaluate, to discuss, to wrestle with the truth that's coming at them from God's Word.

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And when I'm teaching, teaching, teaching. And then all of a sudden I throw a table, talk. They're not allowed to just sit there like this anymore.

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I don't, I will, I wasn't listening. Well, what do you say to when I throw a table talk? I say, hey, listen out loud with words. Go. The fourth level is to engage them. So give breaks, create table talk. So these are both natural rhythms and breaks and pattern interrupts that are going to help with the kind of Marvel theory, the keep it moving.

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Keep it going. Don't get stale, don't get stagnant seven second thing but now when you're actually teaching, use creativity. And once again, this is why I have my Patreon, because I want to help you lean into your creativity. You can make your illustrations better, right? Like we're using Collider. And one of the lessons, was talking about a dog pooping on the lawn.

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Now, that's a great illustration of a self collider. Best curriculum on the planet. Use hybrid ministry. 1001 word to get 10% off your first year of it. But I punched it up a little bit. How I, I took their dog pooping illustration, and I added a photo of a cute dog. All right. And then after adding the photo of the cute dog, I decided, hey, let's name this cute dog to the point that as I'm making this illustration about forgiveness of a dog pooping on your front lawn, I had a student all the way leaned in, eventually.

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Say we named the dog Buttercup based off the sidekick voting feature. I said, hey, Buttercup, is cooked, okay? And you got to be using sidekick on the regular because you can add in things. And I added this one on the fly. In fact, on the episode, I just recorded five minutes ago, the breakdown episode, I explained to you how I came up with this and how I instituted it, and link down below in the show notes will help you know how you can run sidekick and pro presenter at the exact same time, but you need to engage their creativity.

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You need to make your your lessons and your illustrations more creative and help them lean in. And then the fifth and final, level here of, teaching a wild room is to actually teach them, like, actually teach them God's Word. In fact, in an episode link down below, I talk about a couple students who came up to me afterward and they said, you need to do that more.

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And I was like, what is that? And they said, you, you actually like, taught us, like you gave us like a sheet of paper or our Bible, and you were underlining and circling and drawing arrows and, and helping, create like parallels between different like things in the text, like, do that more like actually leaning in to teach them, not just give them a motivational message, not just give them creativity, not just break up our programing, but actually teach them something valuable and meaningful found in God's Word.

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That's the fifth level of helping tame a wild room and doing all five of these things on a regular and consistent basis for us has really helped lean in and created value and opportunity within our youth ministry. Well, hey everyone, I hope you found this episode helpful. Tap the next episode. Subscribe here on screen. But until next time and as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 169: Don't Try These... Until you Hear My Mistakes! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/169 78a20d9e-54df-491e-965f-d90365b4bf59 Thu, 02 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 169 Don't Try These... Until you Hear My Mistakes! full Nick Clason Youth ministry theme nights are some of the BEST ways to get students inviting friends and to build momentum in your group. But hereโ€™s the thing nobody tells youโ€”every single one of my theme nights has come with a mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painfulโ€ฆ and one time I thought I was getting firedโ€ฆ Before you try these for yourself, let me give you my five best theme nights from 15 years in youth ministryโ€”and the one mistake I made in each, so you donโ€™t have to learn the hard way. 14:56 no Youth ministry theme nights are some of the BEST ways to get students inviting friends and to build momentum in your group. But hereโ€™s the thing nobody tells youโ€”every single one of my theme nights has come with a mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painfulโ€ฆ and one time I thought I was getting firedโ€ฆ Before you try these for yourself, let me give you my five best theme nights from 15 years in youth ministryโ€”and the one mistake I made in each, so you donโ€™t have to learn the hard way. ๐Ÿ‚ FALL SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/posts/fall-seasonal-137477671?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link ๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROES GET THE PACK FOR FREE! https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/169 Fall Masterclass https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLfP12NPWmpBzXoCcEsAyBF Duct Tape Trivia https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/duct-tape-trivia/kids-ministry/games-1029.html Loot & Lunacy https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/loot-and-lunacy/games/video-enhanced-9909.html Patreon (K)Night Episode https://www.patreon.com/posts/back-2-school-k-137095993 Christmas Movie Bracket https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/the-ultimate-christmas-movie-showdown/christmas/christmas-games-9784.html Patreon Christmas Episode https://www.patreon.com/posts/hybrid-christmas-117617122 ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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But here's 00:00:09:13 - 00:00:20:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry something that someone might not tell you about some of these theme nights is that in every single one, there is an opportunity for a huge mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painful. 00:00:20:21 - 00:00:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And one time I 00:00:21:14 - 00:00:23:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry even thought I might be getting fired. 00:00:23:19 - 00:00:37:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so before you try this for yourself, in this episode, I'm going to share with you my five favorite theme nights from my last 15 years in youth ministry. And the one mistake I learned from each of those, so that you don't have 00:00:37:02 - 00:00:39:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to learn it the hard way for yourself. 00:00:39:12 - 00:00:54:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey my friends, welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I have been in this recent playlist asking and answering different questions found in different youth ministry 00:00:54:00 - 00:00:55:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Facebook groups. And this 00:00:55:19 - 00:00:55:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry one 00:00:55:27 - 00:00:59:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry says, hey, what are some theme nights you've done with your group that your kids have really enjoyed? 00:00:59:20 - 00:01:03:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like Jersey night? Crazy hair. Looking forward to some ideas. 00:01:03:16 - 00:01:03:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And 00:01:03:22 - 00:01:03:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so 00:01:03:28 - 00:01:23:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I figured, hey, I want to share some of my best theme nights. And I've discussed this before in some recent episodes. In fact, we did kind of like a fall playlist master class thing where I talked about my strategy for youth ministry. And oftentimes I'll make a theme night, a cultivate night, which is a bring your friends and invite style night. 00:01:23:22 - 00:01:36:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so one of the very first, invite style nights that I did as a youth pastor was one that I grew up as a teenager doing my youth pastor shout out to Pastor Tim Blow. He did an event 00:01:36:16 - 00:01:42:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry called Duct Tape Night. And, then I went several years later to intern for him, and he also did it. 00:01:42:06 - 00:02:02:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so then when it was my turn to be a youth pastor, it was time to do duct tape night. And so we do all kinds of different duct tape. We buy a bunch. We encourage students to, you know, bring like, bring something made out of duct tape that they made, will play, you know, games with duct tape or I even have a game I download youth ministry, called duct tape Trivia. 00:02:02:28 - 00:02:23:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's one of my very, very first vivid early on games. And then we'll even play, like, steal the bacon. But in the middle, we'll we'll play, like, steal the duct tape instead. But one probably like the star of the show. Like the thing that kids and students and even leaders look the most forward to is the duct tape a student to the wall challenge. 00:02:23:00 - 00:02:41:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, like, I was, like I said, within my first couple, months, even weeks of of taking this new job and got a couple kids and decided to duct tape them to the wall. And that's all well and good. No one got hurt. I mean, if you get enough duct tape, they literally can stick to the wall and they're not going to fall down. 00:02:41:20 - 00:02:42:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That wasn't the problem. 00:02:42:27 - 00:03:00:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What was the problem was as soon as, they started to fall off the wall, we started to take them down off the wall. It took the paint with them. Mind you, I'm in week, like, three and a half of this job. And so, you know, it's Wednesday night. The entire church is their kids ministry, youth ministry, adult ministry. 00:03:00:12 - 00:03:01:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so at the end of the night, 00:03:01:18 - 00:03:14:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry all the adults like how duct tape night go because, like, they knew about it, heard about it, but had never, like, seen an event like this before. And we're like, oh, good, good, good. And I was talking to my, my senior pastor, my boss. Right. And I was like, oh, it's awesome. 00:03:14:25 - 00:03:31:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We had this, we had this, we had this many new kids, whatever. Oh, also, I had, kid, pull some of the tape off the, some of the paint off the wall with the duct tape. So just, you know, tell me, like what color paint that was, and, I'll. I'll repaint it. No big deal. 00:03:31:29 - 00:03:53:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And he goes that we had to have that, like, specially painted with it in a very special way with, like, a sponge and like a finish. And the person who did that doesn't even live here anymore. They live in Georgia. And like my eyes, I'm just, like, wide eyed. Like what have I done? So I have to somehow get this wall repainted. 00:03:53:26 - 00:04:14:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But reach out to this person who doesn't go to the church anymore. And so within my first couple weeks of ever having a job, I took paint off the precious youth room walls that had been done in a very special and particular way, and so I've learned when you do that duct tape thing, don't put it on paint. 00:04:14:05 - 00:04:34:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I did put it on a brick wall, but it was a painted brick wall. So then in future years, I, stopped putting it on paint because it definitely was always taking the paint in the finish and the drywall off, but it is still an amazing and great event that you can theme, around duct tape. And it's it's a little bit niche and it's a little bit off the beaten track. 00:04:34:06 - 00:04:51:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it's not your typical style of night. This one right here is one that we just did three weeks ago, and we called it our Back to School night. But in front of the, night, we spelled it with a k parentheses with the K. Back to school night, and we went medieval 00:04:51:21 - 00:04:53:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry themed. And, if you're due, I am member. 00:04:53:27 - 00:04:57:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Back in January, they dropped a, game called 00:04:57:02 - 00:05:04:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Loot and Lunacy, and we were going to play Loot and Lunacy at some point in January. But I remember we were in 00:05:04:13 - 00:05:14:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry our run through in our Q to Q and the game. It's just like long, like there are ten sides, ten questions, and they're each like a minute and 30s or so long. 00:05:14:09 - 00:05:32:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you needed to carve out a good 15, maybe even 20 minutes to the whole game. And so that night, right on the moment, right on a dime, I actually decided to switch to another game. So I held loot and lunacy just in my back pocket, knowing I wanted to go back to at some point in the future. 00:05:32:11 - 00:05:50:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when our back to school came around, I was like, let's, let's build a night around loot and lunacy. And in the meantime, we built up all of these sort of like ren fair ideas around it. And so, you know, we talked about, you know, the importance or not, the importance of we it was an invite. 00:05:50:04 - 00:06:08:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we didn't have like a message or anything, but, we had all sorts of different, like, medieval themed games. We did the impossible shot with the bow and arrow. We did like, a giant scavenger hunt. We got a joust. We even looked into getting turkey legs, but that was either a impossible or B cost prohibitive. 00:06:08:01 - 00:06:29:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I can't remember exactly the reason why, but either way we didn't come up with it. But then in and around it, we played Loot and Lunacy and we broke it up into two chunks. We played some at the beginning and we played some at the end. And, you know, here's the fact is, I actually, because this is recent, I detailed an outline this entire episode over on a recent bonus Patreon podcast episode. 00:06:29:16 - 00:06:40:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I get on and I talk every single week. Actually, as soon as this episode hits stop, I'm gonna turn around and a record and recap last night's, last night's Youth Mystery, which was we had an 00:06:40:20 - 00:06:50:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry amazing, like, custom game that came out of like one of our, team members just heads like, it was fantastic. And I can't wait to share it with you. 00:06:50:03 - 00:07:11:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So click the link down below. And guess what? You also get access to the seasonal summer social media pack. Hey quick break. Let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day? Is youth pastor scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. 00:07:11:03 - 00:07:30:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall. That's why I created this the fast seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry. 00:07:30:17 - 00:07:50:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Instagram, TikTok and YouTube shorts feed. So here's the thing. You can grab my pack right now over on Patreon. And did you know that monthly hybrid? Here are Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast. They get this pack completely for free, so if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12. 00:07:51:03 - 00:08:11:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting. And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. Moving on. 00:08:11:27 - 00:08:31:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Talking about back to school bashes. That was a like back to school night, medieval themed back school bash. The mistake I made in that is that. Do you know how to spell medieval? I spelled it wrong so many times. And emails out to parents. The whole thing. And I 00:08:31:02 - 00:08:33:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry still don't even know if I know how to spell it. 00:08:33:05 - 00:08:40:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Grammarly tells me it's medieval, but I was spelling it MLG. Easy io. 00:08:40:18 - 00:08:45:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But then I had to spell it mega. I even I like it, I messed it up 00:08:45:24 - 00:09:06:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so many times. So don't be like me and look up how to spell medieval before you send out emails to parents. But, typically a back to school bash for me, growing up in youth ministry and this is like a big event, a party and a bunch of, like, those giant inflatables and like, you know, obstacle courses, not bounce houses. 00:09:06:16 - 00:09:29:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Exactly, but like, obstacle courses, jousts, Velcro wall, like the hanging wrecking ball, the bucking bronco, like stuff like that. And so one year I had, created a special events team, and there's a guy at our church who's super awesome, super willing to help, but, like, didn't want to be, like, necessarily like a youth leader. But he was like, I'll be on like the events team, which was great. 00:09:29:24 - 00:09:50:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I had our students helpline the night and like what they wanted for food. And they said they wanted Buffalo Wild Wings, which was great and so called ahead place to order. And you know, all the inflatables, all the things are going, kids are showing up, but the food's not there. And I had sent this guy and his name was Tim to go out and grab the Buffalo Wild Wings. 00:09:50:12 - 00:10:09:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Order. And I had placed it ready to be picked up at, you know, let's say 615. Well, he told me that when he got there that they didn't start preparing the order of nearly 250 wings until he arrived at 615, and it was supposed to be ready to pick up at 615. And I said, no, it was supposed to be pick up. 00:10:09:07 - 00:10:33:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry He said, that's what I told them. And they even said, oh yeah, but we want your wings to be fresh. And so he was like 45 minutes late and all the kids are like, where's the wings? So when you're doing catering and when you're doing a big giant pickup order like that, like just make sure the restaurants don't do harebrained stuff like wait until you get there to start preparing it, which is going to then make it like an hour late. 00:10:33:01 - 00:10:52:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Good grief. Event idea number four is last year actually linked right here? I discussed our Christmas movie bracket. And what we did out of that. And again, this is another good plug for my Patreon as I discussed in detail and outlined all of this in my Patreon as well. But we did a bracket which is movies go head to head. 00:10:52:05 - 00:11:09:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, this was the member resource back in, youth ministry back in December of 2024. So if you remember, you might even have access to this for free. Otherwise, I'll put the link down in the show notes. You can go grab it for just a few bucks, but kids vote head to head on different Christmas movies. 00:11:09:18 - 00:11:33:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then what we did was that was just running in the background. In the month of November. But then what we did was the winner was what became our Christmas movie night. And then my boss shout out to Darren, he did a, he added a flavor of bring your own chair to the Christmas movie night. And so kids are coming in and in shopping carts and in camping chairs, and one group even brought a full air mattress to sit on. 00:11:33:18 - 00:11:54:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we took all the chairs out of our auditorium and we played the movie, up on the screen. And the kids brought all their own chairs. Now, the mistake that I made in this event was trusting that ChatGPT would know where all of the homeland Swearwords were, because I actually edited, I was going to edit out any cuss words from the Home Alone movie. 00:11:54:16 - 00:12:22:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so ChatGPT told me. And then what happened was, by the grace of God himself, I was thinking about a certain part of the movie, and I remember, oh, there's a swear word there. And I didn't edit that out, so I had to go back in and reedit it, a reedit another edit that after one I had already made, because the first one I made was I was trusting ChatGPT to give me accurate information, and alas, it gave me some accurate information, but not entirely accurate information. 00:12:22:09 - 00:12:41:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So check your AI chat bots people. And then finally, the fifth idea that I have is a Super Bowl party. If you are a youth group that meets on Sunday nights, you're obligated to do something with the Super Bowl. Now, what I would recommend from a philosophical standpoint is if you're ones in a group, don't add a Super Bowl party to it. 00:12:41:23 - 00:12:55:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you're sending a group, you've got to figure out what you're going to do. And so I remember the first year that I was at a church that had converted from Wednesday to Sunday. And so in comes along the Super Bowl and all of a sudden people were like, oh yeah, we got church and don't we? And they're like, where are we going to meet? 00:12:55:29 - 00:13:13:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we had a Super Bowl party at my house and it was averagely attended. It wasn't great. And so, the and everyone was like, well, we got a party with these people every year and we do this this time of year. And so I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not competing with the Super Bowl anymore. 00:13:13:07 - 00:13:31:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Not to mention, I like sports. I want to watch the Super Bowl. And if I'm running a party, I don't get to watch. I don't get to lock in. I don't get to pay attention to the Super Bowl. And so the mistake, I would say, of, doing the Super Bowl party is actually having one. However, if you're a Sunday night meeting youth ministry, what do you do instead? 00:13:31:28 - 00:14:03:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So, I, I moved up our party, in the next couple of years, and we started doing, like, a pre-game or like a tailgating party. And I know those have negative connotations, but just like a before the Super Bowl party of the Super Bowl party. But we're done by the time Super Bowl parties are so big obstacle course in the middle of our, our space and, some football trivia and, I think we did, like, Nerf wars in a room, actually, and I ended up hiring a DJ, which, another mistake was that deejay was awesome. 00:14:03:17 - 00:14:35:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, he wasn't like some, like, low level DJ. He was so good. And the music was so loud, and the kids, complained. They're like, I couldn't hear myself think. And so I had to go ask him to turn the music down a little bit. That was another mistake. But all in all, super fun. I encourage kids wear jerseys and whatever, but we did it on Super Bowl Sunday, just a few hours before the game started, and then if you are like me and you like sports and you like football, you wrap your event up and you're home in your recliner by 6 p.m. and you're watching the game, you don't have to 00:14:35:19 - 00:14:52:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry worry about commercials. You don't have to worry about halftime shows except for your own stuff. You just get to enjoy the game for itself. So those are five of my favorite theme nights. Comment down below what your favorite youth ministry theme night is, and tab this video here on screen so that you can check out the next one and be sure to give us a subscribe. 00:14:52:29 - 00:14:56:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But until next time, and as always, my friends, don't forget, say habit. Best Youth Ministry Events, Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, Youth Ministry Ideas, Easy Youth Group Events, Student Ministry Theme Nights, Youth Group Super Bowl Party, Back to School Events, Fall Youth Ministry Events, Download Youth Ministry, Christmas Party Ideas Youth ministry theme nights are some of the BEST ways to get students inviting friends and to build momentum in your group.
But hereโ€™s the thing nobody tells youโ€”every single one of my theme nights has come with a mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painfulโ€ฆ and one time I thought I was getting firedโ€ฆ

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
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00:42 Theme Night #1
04:37 Theme Night #2
08:52 Theme Night #3
10:35 Theme Night #4
12:25 Theme Night #5

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:03:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Youth ministry theme nights are some of the best ways to get your students

00:00:03:13 - 00:00:09:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
inviting their friends to your group, as well as build momentum for the overall team. But here's

00:00:09:13 - 00:00:20:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
something that someone might not tell you about some of these theme nights is that in every single one, there is an opportunity for a huge mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painful.

00:00:20:21 - 00:00:21:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And one time I

00:00:21:14 - 00:00:23:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
even thought I might be getting fired.

00:00:23:19 - 00:00:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so before you try this for yourself, in this episode, I'm going to share with you my five favorite theme nights from my last 15 years in youth ministry. And the one mistake I learned from each of those, so that you don't have

00:00:37:02 - 00:00:39:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to learn it the hard way for yourself.

00:00:39:12 - 00:00:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey my friends, welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I have been in this recent playlist asking and answering different questions found in different youth ministry

00:00:54:00 - 00:00:55:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Facebook groups. And this

00:00:55:19 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
one

00:00:55:27 - 00:00:59:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
says, hey, what are some theme nights you've done with your group that your kids have really enjoyed?

00:00:59:20 - 00:01:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like Jersey night? Crazy hair. Looking forward to some ideas.

00:01:03:16 - 00:01:03:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And

00:01:03:22 - 00:01:03:28
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so

00:01:03:28 - 00:01:23:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I figured, hey, I want to share some of my best theme nights. And I've discussed this before in some recent episodes. In fact, we did kind of like a fall playlist master class thing where I talked about my strategy for youth ministry. And oftentimes I'll make a theme night, a cultivate night, which is a bring your friends and invite style night.

00:01:23:22 - 00:01:36:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so one of the very first, invite style nights that I did as a youth pastor was one that I grew up as a teenager doing my youth pastor shout out to Pastor Tim Blow. He did an event

00:01:36:16 - 00:01:42:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
called Duct Tape Night. And, then I went several years later to intern for him, and he also did it.

00:01:42:06 - 00:02:02:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so then when it was my turn to be a youth pastor, it was time to do duct tape night. And so we do all kinds of different duct tape. We buy a bunch. We encourage students to, you know, bring like, bring something made out of duct tape that they made, will play, you know, games with duct tape or I even have a game I download youth ministry, called duct tape Trivia.

00:02:02:28 - 00:02:23:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's one of my very, very first vivid early on games. And then we'll even play, like, steal the bacon. But in the middle, we'll we'll play, like, steal the duct tape instead. But one probably like the star of the show. Like the thing that kids and students and even leaders look the most forward to is the duct tape a student to the wall challenge.

00:02:23:00 - 00:02:41:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, like, I was, like I said, within my first couple, months, even weeks of of taking this new job and got a couple kids and decided to duct tape them to the wall. And that's all well and good. No one got hurt. I mean, if you get enough duct tape, they literally can stick to the wall and they're not going to fall down.

00:02:41:20 - 00:02:42:27
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That wasn't the problem.

00:02:42:27 - 00:03:00:12
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What was the problem was as soon as, they started to fall off the wall, we started to take them down off the wall. It took the paint with them. Mind you, I'm in week, like, three and a half of this job. And so, you know, it's Wednesday night. The entire church is their kids ministry, youth ministry, adult ministry.

00:03:00:12 - 00:03:01:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so at the end of the night,

00:03:01:18 - 00:03:14:25
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all the adults like how duct tape night go because, like, they knew about it, heard about it, but had never, like, seen an event like this before. And we're like, oh, good, good, good. And I was talking to my, my senior pastor, my boss. Right. And I was like, oh, it's awesome.

00:03:14:25 - 00:03:31:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We had this, we had this, we had this many new kids, whatever. Oh, also, I had, kid, pull some of the tape off the, some of the paint off the wall with the duct tape. So just, you know, tell me, like what color paint that was, and, I'll. I'll repaint it. No big deal.

00:03:31:29 - 00:03:53:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And he goes that we had to have that, like, specially painted with it in a very special way with, like, a sponge and like a finish. And the person who did that doesn't even live here anymore. They live in Georgia. And like my eyes, I'm just, like, wide eyed. Like what have I done? So I have to somehow get this wall repainted.

00:03:53:26 - 00:04:14:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But reach out to this person who doesn't go to the church anymore. And so within my first couple weeks of ever having a job, I took paint off the precious youth room walls that had been done in a very special and particular way, and so I've learned when you do that duct tape thing, don't put it on paint.

00:04:14:05 - 00:04:34:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I did put it on a brick wall, but it was a painted brick wall. So then in future years, I, stopped putting it on paint because it definitely was always taking the paint in the finish and the drywall off, but it is still an amazing and great event that you can theme, around duct tape. And it's it's a little bit niche and it's a little bit off the beaten track.

00:04:34:06 - 00:04:51:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's not your typical style of night. This one right here is one that we just did three weeks ago, and we called it our Back to School night. But in front of the, night, we spelled it with a k parentheses with the K. Back to school night, and we went medieval

00:04:51:21 - 00:04:53:27
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themed. And, if you're due, I am member.

00:04:53:27 - 00:04:57:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Back in January, they dropped a, game called

00:04:57:02 - 00:05:04:13
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Loot and Lunacy, and we were going to play Loot and Lunacy at some point in January. But I remember we were in

00:05:04:13 - 00:05:14:09
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our run through in our Q to Q and the game. It's just like long, like there are ten sides, ten questions, and they're each like a minute and 30s or so long.

00:05:14:09 - 00:05:32:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you needed to carve out a good 15, maybe even 20 minutes to the whole game. And so that night, right on the moment, right on a dime, I actually decided to switch to another game. So I held loot and lunacy just in my back pocket, knowing I wanted to go back to at some point in the future.

00:05:32:11 - 00:05:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when our back to school came around, I was like, let's, let's build a night around loot and lunacy. And in the meantime, we built up all of these sort of like ren fair ideas around it. And so, you know, we talked about, you know, the importance or not, the importance of we it was an invite.

00:05:50:04 - 00:06:08:01
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So we didn't have like a message or anything, but, we had all sorts of different, like, medieval themed games. We did the impossible shot with the bow and arrow. We did like, a giant scavenger hunt. We got a joust. We even looked into getting turkey legs, but that was either a impossible or B cost prohibitive.

00:06:08:01 - 00:06:29:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can't remember exactly the reason why, but either way we didn't come up with it. But then in and around it, we played Loot and Lunacy and we broke it up into two chunks. We played some at the beginning and we played some at the end. And, you know, here's the fact is, I actually, because this is recent, I detailed an outline this entire episode over on a recent bonus Patreon podcast episode.

00:06:29:16 - 00:06:40:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I get on and I talk every single week. Actually, as soon as this episode hits stop, I'm gonna turn around and a record and recap last night's, last night's Youth Mystery, which was we had an

00:06:40:20 - 00:06:50:03
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amazing, like, custom game that came out of like one of our, team members just heads like, it was fantastic. And I can't wait to share it with you.

00:06:50:03 - 00:07:11:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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00:07:11:03 - 00:07:30:17
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00:07:30:17 - 00:07:50:29
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00:08:11:27 - 00:08:31:02
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Talking about back to school bashes. That was a like back to school night, medieval themed back school bash. The mistake I made in that is that. Do you know how to spell medieval? I spelled it wrong so many times. And emails out to parents. The whole thing. And I

00:08:31:02 - 00:08:33:03
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still don't even know if I know how to spell it.

00:08:33:05 - 00:08:40:18
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Grammarly tells me it's medieval, but I was spelling it MLG. Easy io.

00:08:40:18 - 00:08:45:24
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But then I had to spell it mega. I even I like it, I messed it up

00:08:45:24 - 00:09:06:16
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so many times. So don't be like me and look up how to spell medieval before you send out emails to parents. But, typically a back to school bash for me, growing up in youth ministry and this is like a big event, a party and a bunch of, like, those giant inflatables and like, you know, obstacle courses, not bounce houses.

00:09:06:16 - 00:09:29:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Exactly, but like, obstacle courses, jousts, Velcro wall, like the hanging wrecking ball, the bucking bronco, like stuff like that. And so one year I had, created a special events team, and there's a guy at our church who's super awesome, super willing to help, but, like, didn't want to be, like, necessarily like a youth leader. But he was like, I'll be on like the events team, which was great.

00:09:29:24 - 00:09:50:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I had our students helpline the night and like what they wanted for food. And they said they wanted Buffalo Wild Wings, which was great and so called ahead place to order. And you know, all the inflatables, all the things are going, kids are showing up, but the food's not there. And I had sent this guy and his name was Tim to go out and grab the Buffalo Wild Wings.

00:09:50:12 - 00:10:09:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Order. And I had placed it ready to be picked up at, you know, let's say 615. Well, he told me that when he got there that they didn't start preparing the order of nearly 250 wings until he arrived at 615, and it was supposed to be ready to pick up at 615. And I said, no, it was supposed to be pick up.

00:10:09:07 - 00:10:33:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He said, that's what I told them. And they even said, oh yeah, but we want your wings to be fresh. And so he was like 45 minutes late and all the kids are like, where's the wings? So when you're doing catering and when you're doing a big giant pickup order like that, like just make sure the restaurants don't do harebrained stuff like wait until you get there to start preparing it, which is going to then make it like an hour late.

00:10:33:01 - 00:10:52:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Good grief. Event idea number four is last year actually linked right here? I discussed our Christmas movie bracket. And what we did out of that. And again, this is another good plug for my Patreon as I discussed in detail and outlined all of this in my Patreon as well. But we did a bracket which is movies go head to head.

00:10:52:05 - 00:11:09:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this was the member resource back in, youth ministry back in December of 2024. So if you remember, you might even have access to this for free. Otherwise, I'll put the link down in the show notes. You can go grab it for just a few bucks, but kids vote head to head on different Christmas movies.

00:11:09:18 - 00:11:33:18
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And then what we did was that was just running in the background. In the month of November. But then what we did was the winner was what became our Christmas movie night. And then my boss shout out to Darren, he did a, he added a flavor of bring your own chair to the Christmas movie night. And so kids are coming in and in shopping carts and in camping chairs, and one group even brought a full air mattress to sit on.

00:11:33:18 - 00:11:54:09
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So we took all the chairs out of our auditorium and we played the movie, up on the screen. And the kids brought all their own chairs. Now, the mistake that I made in this event was trusting that ChatGPT would know where all of the homeland Swearwords were, because I actually edited, I was going to edit out any cuss words from the Home Alone movie.

00:11:54:16 - 00:12:22:09
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And so ChatGPT told me. And then what happened was, by the grace of God himself, I was thinking about a certain part of the movie, and I remember, oh, there's a swear word there. And I didn't edit that out, so I had to go back in and reedit it, a reedit another edit that after one I had already made, because the first one I made was I was trusting ChatGPT to give me accurate information, and alas, it gave me some accurate information, but not entirely accurate information.

00:12:22:09 - 00:12:41:17
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So check your AI chat bots people. And then finally, the fifth idea that I have is a Super Bowl party. If you are a youth group that meets on Sunday nights, you're obligated to do something with the Super Bowl. Now, what I would recommend from a philosophical standpoint is if you're ones in a group, don't add a Super Bowl party to it.

00:12:41:23 - 00:12:55:29
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But if you're sending a group, you've got to figure out what you're going to do. And so I remember the first year that I was at a church that had converted from Wednesday to Sunday. And so in comes along the Super Bowl and all of a sudden people were like, oh yeah, we got church and don't we? And they're like, where are we going to meet?

00:12:55:29 - 00:13:13:04
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And so we had a Super Bowl party at my house and it was averagely attended. It wasn't great. And so, the and everyone was like, well, we got a party with these people every year and we do this this time of year. And so I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not competing with the Super Bowl anymore.

00:13:13:07 - 00:13:31:28
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Not to mention, I like sports. I want to watch the Super Bowl. And if I'm running a party, I don't get to watch. I don't get to lock in. I don't get to pay attention to the Super Bowl. And so the mistake, I would say, of, doing the Super Bowl party is actually having one. However, if you're a Sunday night meeting youth ministry, what do you do instead?

00:13:31:28 - 00:14:03:17
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So, I, I moved up our party, in the next couple of years, and we started doing, like, a pre-game or like a tailgating party. And I know those have negative connotations, but just like a before the Super Bowl party of the Super Bowl party. But we're done by the time Super Bowl parties are so big obstacle course in the middle of our, our space and, some football trivia and, I think we did, like, Nerf wars in a room, actually, and I ended up hiring a DJ, which, another mistake was that deejay was awesome.

00:14:03:17 - 00:14:35:19
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Like, he wasn't like some, like, low level DJ. He was so good. And the music was so loud, and the kids, complained. They're like, I couldn't hear myself think. And so I had to go ask him to turn the music down a little bit. That was another mistake. But all in all, super fun. I encourage kids wear jerseys and whatever, but we did it on Super Bowl Sunday, just a few hours before the game started, and then if you are like me and you like sports and you like football, you wrap your event up and you're home in your recliner by 6 p.m. and you're watching the game, you don't have to

00:14:35:19 - 00:14:52:29
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worry about commercials. You don't have to worry about halftime shows except for your own stuff. You just get to enjoy the game for itself. So those are five of my favorite theme nights. Comment down below what your favorite youth ministry theme night is, and tab this video here on screen so that you can check out the next one and be sure to give us a subscribe.

00:14:52:29 - 00:14:56:15
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But until next time, and as always, my friends, don't forget, say habit.

]]> Youth ministry theme nights are some of the BEST ways to get students inviting friends and to build momentum in your group.
But hereโ€™s the thing nobody tells youโ€”every single one of my theme nights has come with a mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painfulโ€ฆ and one time I thought I was getting firedโ€ฆ

Before you try these for yourself, let me give you my five best theme nights from 15 years in youth ministryโ€”and the one mistake I made in each, so you donโ€™t have to learn the hard way.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Youth Ministry Theme Nights
00:42 Theme Night #1
04:37 Theme Night #2
08:52 Theme Night #3
10:35 Theme Night #4
12:25 Theme Night #5

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:03:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Youth ministry theme nights are some of the best ways to get your students

00:00:03:13 - 00:00:09:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
inviting their friends to your group, as well as build momentum for the overall team. But here's

00:00:09:13 - 00:00:20:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
something that someone might not tell you about some of these theme nights is that in every single one, there is an opportunity for a huge mistake. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was painful.

00:00:20:21 - 00:00:21:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And one time I

00:00:21:14 - 00:00:23:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
even thought I might be getting fired.

00:00:23:19 - 00:00:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so before you try this for yourself, in this episode, I'm going to share with you my five favorite theme nights from my last 15 years in youth ministry. And the one mistake I learned from each of those, so that you don't have

00:00:37:02 - 00:00:39:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to learn it the hard way for yourself.

00:00:39:12 - 00:00:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well, hey my friends, welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I have been in this recent playlist asking and answering different questions found in different youth ministry

00:00:54:00 - 00:00:55:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Facebook groups. And this

00:00:55:19 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
one

00:00:55:27 - 00:00:59:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
says, hey, what are some theme nights you've done with your group that your kids have really enjoyed?

00:00:59:20 - 00:01:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like Jersey night? Crazy hair. Looking forward to some ideas.

00:01:03:16 - 00:01:03:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And

00:01:03:22 - 00:01:03:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
so

00:01:03:28 - 00:01:23:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I figured, hey, I want to share some of my best theme nights. And I've discussed this before in some recent episodes. In fact, we did kind of like a fall playlist master class thing where I talked about my strategy for youth ministry. And oftentimes I'll make a theme night, a cultivate night, which is a bring your friends and invite style night.

00:01:23:22 - 00:01:36:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so one of the very first, invite style nights that I did as a youth pastor was one that I grew up as a teenager doing my youth pastor shout out to Pastor Tim Blow. He did an event

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called Duct Tape Night. And, then I went several years later to intern for him, and he also did it.

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And so then when it was my turn to be a youth pastor, it was time to do duct tape night. And so we do all kinds of different duct tape. We buy a bunch. We encourage students to, you know, bring like, bring something made out of duct tape that they made, will play, you know, games with duct tape or I even have a game I download youth ministry, called duct tape Trivia.

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It's one of my very, very first vivid early on games. And then we'll even play, like, steal the bacon. But in the middle, we'll we'll play, like, steal the duct tape instead. But one probably like the star of the show. Like the thing that kids and students and even leaders look the most forward to is the duct tape a student to the wall challenge.

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And, like, I was, like I said, within my first couple, months, even weeks of of taking this new job and got a couple kids and decided to duct tape them to the wall. And that's all well and good. No one got hurt. I mean, if you get enough duct tape, they literally can stick to the wall and they're not going to fall down.

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That wasn't the problem.

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What was the problem was as soon as, they started to fall off the wall, we started to take them down off the wall. It took the paint with them. Mind you, I'm in week, like, three and a half of this job. And so, you know, it's Wednesday night. The entire church is their kids ministry, youth ministry, adult ministry.

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And so at the end of the night,

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all the adults like how duct tape night go because, like, they knew about it, heard about it, but had never, like, seen an event like this before. And we're like, oh, good, good, good. And I was talking to my, my senior pastor, my boss. Right. And I was like, oh, it's awesome.

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We had this, we had this, we had this many new kids, whatever. Oh, also, I had, kid, pull some of the tape off the, some of the paint off the wall with the duct tape. So just, you know, tell me, like what color paint that was, and, I'll. I'll repaint it. No big deal.

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Right. And he goes that we had to have that, like, specially painted with it in a very special way with, like, a sponge and like a finish. And the person who did that doesn't even live here anymore. They live in Georgia. And like my eyes, I'm just, like, wide eyed. Like what have I done? So I have to somehow get this wall repainted.

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But reach out to this person who doesn't go to the church anymore. And so within my first couple weeks of ever having a job, I took paint off the precious youth room walls that had been done in a very special and particular way, and so I've learned when you do that duct tape thing, don't put it on paint.

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I did put it on a brick wall, but it was a painted brick wall. So then in future years, I, stopped putting it on paint because it definitely was always taking the paint in the finish and the drywall off, but it is still an amazing and great event that you can theme, around duct tape. And it's it's a little bit niche and it's a little bit off the beaten track.

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So it's not your typical style of night. This one right here is one that we just did three weeks ago, and we called it our Back to School night. But in front of the, night, we spelled it with a k parentheses with the K. Back to school night, and we went medieval

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themed. And, if you're due, I am member.

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Back in January, they dropped a, game called

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Loot and Lunacy, and we were going to play Loot and Lunacy at some point in January. But I remember we were in

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our run through in our Q to Q and the game. It's just like long, like there are ten sides, ten questions, and they're each like a minute and 30s or so long.

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And so you needed to carve out a good 15, maybe even 20 minutes to the whole game. And so that night, right on the moment, right on a dime, I actually decided to switch to another game. So I held loot and lunacy just in my back pocket, knowing I wanted to go back to at some point in the future.

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And so when our back to school came around, I was like, let's, let's build a night around loot and lunacy. And in the meantime, we built up all of these sort of like ren fair ideas around it. And so, you know, we talked about, you know, the importance or not, the importance of we it was an invite.

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So we didn't have like a message or anything, but, we had all sorts of different, like, medieval themed games. We did the impossible shot with the bow and arrow. We did like, a giant scavenger hunt. We got a joust. We even looked into getting turkey legs, but that was either a impossible or B cost prohibitive.

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I can't remember exactly the reason why, but either way we didn't come up with it. But then in and around it, we played Loot and Lunacy and we broke it up into two chunks. We played some at the beginning and we played some at the end. And, you know, here's the fact is, I actually, because this is recent, I detailed an outline this entire episode over on a recent bonus Patreon podcast episode.

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I get on and I talk every single week. Actually, as soon as this episode hits stop, I'm gonna turn around and a record and recap last night's, last night's Youth Mystery, which was we had an

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amazing, like, custom game that came out of like one of our, team members just heads like, it was fantastic. And I can't wait to share it with you.

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So click the link down below. And guess what? You also get access to the seasonal summer social media pack. Hey quick break. Let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day? Is youth pastor scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet.

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Where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting. And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. Moving on.

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Talking about back to school bashes. That was a like back to school night, medieval themed back school bash. The mistake I made in that is that. Do you know how to spell medieval? I spelled it wrong so many times. And emails out to parents. The whole thing. And I

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still don't even know if I know how to spell it.

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Grammarly tells me it's medieval, but I was spelling it MLG. Easy io.

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But then I had to spell it mega. I even I like it, I messed it up

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so many times. So don't be like me and look up how to spell medieval before you send out emails to parents. But, typically a back to school bash for me, growing up in youth ministry and this is like a big event, a party and a bunch of, like, those giant inflatables and like, you know, obstacle courses, not bounce houses.

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Exactly, but like, obstacle courses, jousts, Velcro wall, like the hanging wrecking ball, the bucking bronco, like stuff like that. And so one year I had, created a special events team, and there's a guy at our church who's super awesome, super willing to help, but, like, didn't want to be, like, necessarily like a youth leader. But he was like, I'll be on like the events team, which was great.

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And so I had our students helpline the night and like what they wanted for food. And they said they wanted Buffalo Wild Wings, which was great and so called ahead place to order. And you know, all the inflatables, all the things are going, kids are showing up, but the food's not there. And I had sent this guy and his name was Tim to go out and grab the Buffalo Wild Wings.

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Order. And I had placed it ready to be picked up at, you know, let's say 615. Well, he told me that when he got there that they didn't start preparing the order of nearly 250 wings until he arrived at 615, and it was supposed to be ready to pick up at 615. And I said, no, it was supposed to be pick up.

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He said, that's what I told them. And they even said, oh yeah, but we want your wings to be fresh. And so he was like 45 minutes late and all the kids are like, where's the wings? So when you're doing catering and when you're doing a big giant pickup order like that, like just make sure the restaurants don't do harebrained stuff like wait until you get there to start preparing it, which is going to then make it like an hour late.

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Good grief. Event idea number four is last year actually linked right here? I discussed our Christmas movie bracket. And what we did out of that. And again, this is another good plug for my Patreon as I discussed in detail and outlined all of this in my Patreon as well. But we did a bracket which is movies go head to head.

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In fact, this was the member resource back in, youth ministry back in December of 2024. So if you remember, you might even have access to this for free. Otherwise, I'll put the link down in the show notes. You can go grab it for just a few bucks, but kids vote head to head on different Christmas movies.

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And then what we did was that was just running in the background. In the month of November. But then what we did was the winner was what became our Christmas movie night. And then my boss shout out to Darren, he did a, he added a flavor of bring your own chair to the Christmas movie night. And so kids are coming in and in shopping carts and in camping chairs, and one group even brought a full air mattress to sit on.

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So we took all the chairs out of our auditorium and we played the movie, up on the screen. And the kids brought all their own chairs. Now, the mistake that I made in this event was trusting that ChatGPT would know where all of the homeland Swearwords were, because I actually edited, I was going to edit out any cuss words from the Home Alone movie.

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And so ChatGPT told me. And then what happened was, by the grace of God himself, I was thinking about a certain part of the movie, and I remember, oh, there's a swear word there. And I didn't edit that out, so I had to go back in and reedit it, a reedit another edit that after one I had already made, because the first one I made was I was trusting ChatGPT to give me accurate information, and alas, it gave me some accurate information, but not entirely accurate information.

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So check your AI chat bots people. And then finally, the fifth idea that I have is a Super Bowl party. If you are a youth group that meets on Sunday nights, you're obligated to do something with the Super Bowl. Now, what I would recommend from a philosophical standpoint is if you're ones in a group, don't add a Super Bowl party to it.

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But if you're sending a group, you've got to figure out what you're going to do. And so I remember the first year that I was at a church that had converted from Wednesday to Sunday. And so in comes along the Super Bowl and all of a sudden people were like, oh yeah, we got church and don't we? And they're like, where are we going to meet?

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And so we had a Super Bowl party at my house and it was averagely attended. It wasn't great. And so, the and everyone was like, well, we got a party with these people every year and we do this this time of year. And so I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not competing with the Super Bowl anymore.

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Not to mention, I like sports. I want to watch the Super Bowl. And if I'm running a party, I don't get to watch. I don't get to lock in. I don't get to pay attention to the Super Bowl. And so the mistake, I would say, of, doing the Super Bowl party is actually having one. However, if you're a Sunday night meeting youth ministry, what do you do instead?

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So, I, I moved up our party, in the next couple of years, and we started doing, like, a pre-game or like a tailgating party. And I know those have negative connotations, but just like a before the Super Bowl party of the Super Bowl party. But we're done by the time Super Bowl parties are so big obstacle course in the middle of our, our space and, some football trivia and, I think we did, like, Nerf wars in a room, actually, and I ended up hiring a DJ, which, another mistake was that deejay was awesome.

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Like, he wasn't like some, like, low level DJ. He was so good. And the music was so loud, and the kids, complained. They're like, I couldn't hear myself think. And so I had to go ask him to turn the music down a little bit. That was another mistake. But all in all, super fun. I encourage kids wear jerseys and whatever, but we did it on Super Bowl Sunday, just a few hours before the game started, and then if you are like me and you like sports and you like football, you wrap your event up and you're home in your recliner by 6 p.m. and you're watching the game, you don't have to

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worry about commercials. You don't have to worry about halftime shows except for your own stuff. You just get to enjoy the game for itself. So those are five of my favorite theme nights. Comment down below what your favorite youth ministry theme night is, and tab this video here on screen so that you can check out the next one and be sure to give us a subscribe.

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But until next time, and as always, my friends, don't forget, say habit.

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]]> Episode 167: Top 5 Youth Ministry Books Every New Youth Pastor Must Read https://www.hybridministry.xyz/167 7efa61bf-2ec2-4741-a90e-96ac04f0eb23 Thu, 18 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 167 Top 5 Youth Ministry Books Every New Youth Pastor Must Read full Nick Clason Welcome to Nick Clason Theological Seminaryโ€”or as my new resident called it, NCTS. Iโ€™m not actually starting a seminary, but if youโ€™re brand new to youth ministry and wondering, "What books should I read?" Youโ€™re in the right place. Today Iโ€™m breaking down 5 must-read youth ministry books and 3 video courses that will give you a solid foundation for preaching, programming, and discipling students in todayโ€™s world. 17:56 no Welcome to Nick Clason Theological Seminaryโ€”or as my new resident called it, NCTS. Iโ€™m not actually starting a seminary, but if youโ€™re brand new to youth ministry and wondering, "What books should I read?" Youโ€™re in the right place. 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Now, listen, I'm not actually starting to sing you, but if you are brand new to youth ministry and you're wondering, like this person and this youth pastor Facebook group who said, hey, I am new to youth ministry and I've been out of the youth ministry position for 11 years. 00:00:27:26 - 00:00:59:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So anyone have any new books or resources that will help me with today's youth, ages 9 to 18 at this new position? They've had trouble the last year with getting volunteers, kids showing up and committing to events. If anyone has any advice on these things that would help. Thank you and good luck with your ministry. If that's you, or if you're asking a question like that, well then today you're in the right place because what I'm actually going to be doing is I'm going to be breaking down five must-read youth ministry books paired with three video courses. 00:00:59:07 - 00:01:30:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And those two things paired together are going to give you a solid foundation for preaching, programing, and discipling students in today's world. Welcome, everyone to the hybrid ministry Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. For a quick bit of context. Just as a reminder, there are always chapters listed down below. In this episode, I'm breaking down what you should be reading and what you can be using as prep as a new or, building a foundation in youth ministry. 00:01:30:18 - 00:01:54:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this really came to light in, recent days. My boss, Darren, who was, a and still is a 30 plus year youth ministry veteran, moved on to a different role, and I stepped into his seat and I inherited a team, with a combined less than one year of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience. 00:01:54:22 - 00:02:16:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There are four of them, but every single one of them has less than a year, and in some cases, less than six months of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience. They're eager. They're awesome. I love our team. But they're all very young. And so I started kind of thinking through, like, what are some of the things that we should be, that they should know? 00:02:16:08 - 00:02:41:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what are some of the things that have been foundational to me that I have known? And so, in previous, years when, you know, Dan was on the team and I was his right hand man, him and I kind of in tandem led these, lunch and learn kind of like workshops. And so I went back through and I looked at what we did last year, and then I looked ahead and, I started, like, thinking, like, what was some of the most core or, like, foundational things for me growing up. 00:02:41:24 - 00:03:02:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so this is essentially like my, like, must have go to like types of things, for youth pastors and frankly, for people in ministry because some of these things are not actually only like ministry specific. So, there are going to be links to every single one of these listed down below in the description. Make sure that you go check those out. 00:03:02:10 - 00:03:21:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There may be a small affiliate commission. Won't change the price for you. Some might not have it. Like, I don't know exactly. Which ones are which, but you can go ahead and check those out. But the first thing and so like in our what I'll do is I'll share, here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I'll share are like brunch and learn schedule. 00:03:21:13 - 00:03:51:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we meet once a month, for discussion around some of these topics. And now, I'm, I'm building it and setting it up in this particular way, to try and space out some of the obligation and some of the reading that I'm requiring of them. However. So, like, you need to understand, like I'm putting, like, shorter books, after longer books, and then I'm doing a video class in between some books and stuff like that so that it's not only reading and there's like videos in there. 00:03:51:14 - 00:04:07:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's why I'm breaking it up, kind of the way that I'm breaking it up. But like, you can kind of go in any, any direction and like, depending on the appetite that you may or may not have for learning, that may or may not be better for you. So go ahead and try and kind of like take, take this with a grain of salt. 00:04:07:29 - 00:04:31:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm not saying you have to go in any particular order. I may recommend like a particular order, but you can go in, in whatever or you want. And I'll explain what each of the books kind of focus on. And so depending on your context, you can kind of, grab it, in that way. But for us, starting off, we're doing a 50 day devotional study from Sun Life called Knowing Him. 00:04:31:07 - 00:05:01:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now what is awesome about this book is a it's a devotional, so you can, like, add it and make it a part of just like your daily morning, like quiet time reading. And what it is, is it's an exploration through the life of Christ in 50 days, in chronological order. My senior pastor and then also like the founder of Sun Life, Dan Spader, and many of the guys kind of in that arena have sort of found the value in looking at the harmony of the Gospels in the chronological order life of Jesus. 00:05:01:23 - 00:05:31:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's what this 50 day study is, kind of built around. And I kid you not like, I'm not saying this hyperbolically this is perhaps the most beneficial, like devotional study that I have ever been through in my life. It's so impactful. So several videos back linked right up here talked about my, event strategy, the, the spiritual CPR and that kind of came, from the roots in the foundation of like, a sun life kind of strategy. 00:05:31:23 - 00:05:49:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this knowing him, is really like the core, kind of like foundation. Or like the, the chronological ness of, of it all. And so was really been cool is, my team right now they're working through this. And, one of the guys, he goes, you know, I just kind of assumed, like, I've been through a million Bible studies. 00:05:49:05 - 00:06:12:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I just kind of assumed the questions would be kind of lame and kind of basic. He's like, the study's fantastic. And the questions are really, really making me think so it's really, really good. And, we at a as our church, we try to position our church and thus our ministry after the chronological nature of Jesus and, and follow his blueprint and disciple making pathway for making leaders. 00:06:12:15 - 00:06:32:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, this devotional really helps, get our, our team into that headspace of, doing ministry like Jesus and exploring it through kind of a chronological lens. There's not a great way to buy this, honestly. They have kind of like a print on demand sort of deal, and our church, doesn't, want to pay tax because we're tax exempt. 00:06:32:14 - 00:06:47:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And there wasn't a very easy way for me to figure out how to not do tax. But they do have a completely free e-book version of it. And so if you don't mind the e-book version and then maybe write down your answers in, like, a journal, then you can totally go that way and it's completely free. 00:06:47:26 - 00:07:09:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The next book that I recommend to all of our team as they're communicating is, in my opinion, the best communication resource out there from one Andy Stanley. Now, listen, I know that recently some of his, comments and some of his thinking have become a little bit polarizing in the church subculture. But you can't argue that he's not one of the best communicators out there. 00:07:09:20 - 00:07:42:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so he has a book on communicating for a change that I absolutely love. And so, some of our team has already been through that. And so for this, for our brunch and learn, I'm taking through, two people who have not yet been through that. And we're not only going to read it and discuss it, but we're also going to workshop like a future message for them, in this sort of way that Andy, builds out his, his messages, which is in his, his kind of famed and patented outline of me, then we, then God, then you, then we, and the the sort of thesis for his whole book is drive towards 00:07:42:16 - 00:07:59:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry one main point and then tell a story you know about you, that's the me. And then broaden it so that it includes everyone. And, you know, create this tension like, this is not only a new problem, but it's a we problem. But here's how God solves it. And here's one thing that you can do as a result of that. 00:07:59:23 - 00:08:20:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then finally, if we all did this, imagine how the world could be different or the world could change to really, really good framework. And I basically use it every single time I preach. Next. After that, we are moving into our youth ministry university, which we are platinum members at our church. If you're not, you should go check it out on Download Youth Ministry. 00:08:20:06 - 00:08:42:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry At least check out Collider, which is an amazing, you know, scope and sequence curriculum. You can use code Hybrid Ministry ten, if you want to get 10% off co-leader for the year. But we're using a, we're using the programing like a pro, which is Justin Knowles and Josh Griffin, and they're sort of like a programing course that they have on WAMU. 00:08:42:06 - 00:09:02:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, I wanted to get our, our team thinking and talking about creative programing and, you know, that's actually a really, really high value for me, something that I care a lot about. In fact, that's one of the things that I talk about on my bonus, Patreon hybrid heroes podcast every single week. Hey, quick break. 00:09:02:22 - 00:09:19:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall. 00:09:19:06 - 00:09:42:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's why I created this the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts feed. So here's the thing you can grab my pack right now over on Patreon. 00:09:42:16 - 00:10:02:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And did you know that monthly hybrid? Here are Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast. They get this pack completely for free, so if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12 where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting. 00:10:02:28 - 00:10:22:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So in addition to social media, in addition to programing like a pro, that is one of the things we're taking our team through. 00:10:23:01 - 00:10:46:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We are also then, after that, we're going to take them through the book Lead Small, which lead Small is actually sort of like written as a job description for small group leaders. It's kind of meant to hand to small group leaders. It's a really quick and fun read. And so, in the middle of sort of like our year, I dropped lead Small on them because I think it's probably going to be the quickest of all the reads that they're going to have to do. 00:10:46:22 - 00:11:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we'll have a discussion and that'll be, really us thinking and strategizing as staff about how we can equip our small group leaders to continue to lean into some of the core, kind of like five lead small principles. My friend Carrie Rae, who's, over on staff at y, AM3 60, he's famous for saying, like, any youth pastor could have written this book. 00:11:10:18 - 00:11:50:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Orange just went ahead and did it. And once again, I know that there's some, you know, stuff going on around with orange, but the core principles of Lead Small, which are taken from Scripture, are also, not, you know, they haven't, ceased to, to be relevant. And so they're still very useful to creating a good culture of relationships and connection and small group and most youth ministries, I would argue that are greater than 25 to 30, which is probably most of us are going to need to have a pretty strong lead, small culture, because, you as a youth pastor can't provide care for greater than 30 students. 00:11:50:01 - 00:12:16:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you need to, enlist small group leaders to help continue on in that care. It's a biblical principle. We see, Jethro challenged Moses to do that when Moses doing too much. And Jethro says you need to delegate. And and that's what we as youth pastors also need to do. Not because we don't care about students, not because we don't want to be in students lives, but because we want to equip our small group leaders to be kind of the torch bearers for some of that shepherding and pastoral care. 00:12:16:19 - 00:12:38:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's what the lead small principle is all about. The next thing we're going back to, why I'm university and we're looking at family ministry, just basically thinking like, how do we partner with parents? That's a core kind of like principle that all of us in youth ministry, should care about. That's what orange is kind of built off of, you know, like, the church and the churches. 00:12:38:07 - 00:12:56:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What is I think the church is red. No, the family is red because it's their heart and their love, and the church is yellow because like the light of God. But together they should make orange. Right? And so it's partnering with families in your student and in your youth ministry. And so, youth minister University has a whole family ministry course. 00:12:56:27 - 00:13:19:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we're going to watch that and then we're going to discuss that as a team. This book right here is essentially my, small group, curriculum strategy guide. It is Sticky Church, written by Larry Osborne. And I read this book all the way back when I was an intern myself. And his whole premise is your church will grow when you're small. 00:13:19:15 - 00:13:43:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Groups are sticky. So it's but it's more than just lead small culture. It's what's the curriculum and what's the driving force within your small groups. And his premise is essentially you should do a sermon or whatever your main messages, sermon based small groups. And some of you, totally agree, which, you know, if if you are like a subscriber to co-leader, you understand that that's exactly like what it is like. 00:13:43:19 - 00:14:06:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You listen to the message and then you break into small groups to discuss it. In our context. We teach on one night and then our small group curriculum is taught on a whole nother day and a whole nother calendar time of the week. Which is similar to like a big church model where if you go to church and then you have small groups that meet decentralized host homes throughout the community, and they're discussing the pastor's sermon. 00:14:06:12 - 00:14:25:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's a similar sort of mindset. So this comes from, I'm sure other people have this this idea in this mindset. But, I remember at first from Larry Osborne and I found this book to be incredibly helpful and incredibly impactful. Towards the end of the year, we're finally going to get into the why I'm university purpose driven youth ministry discussion. 00:14:25:09 - 00:14:45:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The only reason that this isn't higher, and the only reason that I don't recommend this sooner, is because, we kind of did like the knowing him, which is going to be a, a ministry philosophy and a ministry purpose, conversation and discussion. And so what I'm doing is I'm bringing this back around, bookending it at the end of the year. 00:14:45:07 - 00:15:04:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the book dug this book. Phenomenal. I love this book. I was just trying to cut down on the reading, and I saw that there was a video course. And so we're going to go ahead and have take our team through the video course and just kind of explore the five different purposes of the church, which again, we are already kind of like our team. 00:15:04:24 - 00:15:23:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our team has a good understanding of that as it pertains to like Jesus's disciple making pathway, like those sections on the pathway often are tied to different purposes of the church. So this will, be reiterating it and meshing into that way of thinking just from like a slightly different angle. So I'm really excited to bring this one back around. 00:15:23:28 - 00:15:47:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then finally, the ultimate bookend for church discipling by Dan Spader, one of my all time favorite books as well. It's he's the founder of Sun Life. And so just like we have four steps on our church's pathway, he has four chairs. And that it's going to pair really well with that knowing him and then that purpose driven youth ministry discussion I will give and I will give a nod. 00:15:47:26 - 00:16:06:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the only other reason I didn't include this book for all youth pastors is, this is like the goat of all youth ministry books. Is your first two years in youth ministry? The only reason I didn't include it for our team is because, as interns, they've already gone through it and read it. And so, I recommend that one as well. 00:16:06:18 - 00:16:24:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Written by Doug Fields as well. Phenomenal and fantastic book. And so if you're in youth ministry and if you're wondering, like, what do I do? How do I connect? Now, listen, you might be thinking, if you wrote that question like, how do I connect with teens in like this new world that you're like, these aren't that new of resources? 00:16:24:24 - 00:16:48:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you're right. And maybe it's because I'm an old fuddy duddy. Or I think that some of these things are tied to the Great Commission and are key to like some, some youth ministry like purpose, which, you know, purpose driven youth ministry for church discipling and knowing him are all like youth ministry strategy and church ministry strategy, doing and running church and making disciples like Jesus. 00:16:48:18 - 00:17:08:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then within that you got teaching and programing. So those are in there. And then finally, leading small group. So you got lead small and you got sticky church. And then the last piece is how do we partner with parents? And that's why we included that family ministry piece. All these things really help hopefully give a good holistic view of of good youth ministry. 00:17:08:05 - 00:17:25:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, you know, I've been youth ministry for 15 years. These are some of the core things that have helped shape my thinking and some of what I do as well. And let me just say kind of one final piece, like, if you're not a platinum member, you should become one because they give you a conference registration ticket and some of those do. 00:17:25:22 - 00:17:47:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I am 100 roundtables conferences, have been some of the most formative things to my youth ministry thinking and, my, my honestly, my health and my longevity in being a youth pastor for more than 15 years. So, hey, hope you found this episode helpful. We're going to be answering some questions in the subsequent episodes. 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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:03 - 00:00:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Nicholas's Theological Seminary, or as my new resident recently called it, the n c t s. Now, listen, I'm not actually starting to sing you, but if you are brand new to youth ministry and you're wondering, like this person and this youth pastor Facebook group who said, hey, I am new to youth ministry and I've been out of the youth ministry position for 11 years.

00:00:27:26 - 00:00:59:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So anyone have any new books or resources that will help me with today's youth, ages 9 to 18 at this new position? They've had trouble the last year with getting volunteers, kids showing up and committing to events. If anyone has any advice on these things that would help. Thank you and good luck with your ministry. If that's you, or if you're asking a question like that, well then today you're in the right place because what I'm actually going to be doing is I'm going to be breaking down five must-read youth ministry books paired with three video courses.

00:00:59:07 - 00:01:30:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those two things paired together are going to give you a solid foundation for preaching, programing, and discipling students in today's world. Welcome, everyone to the hybrid ministry Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. For a quick bit of context. Just as a reminder, there are always chapters listed down below. In this episode, I'm breaking down what you should be reading and what you can be using as prep as a new or, building a foundation in youth ministry.

00:01:30:18 - 00:01:54:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this really came to light in, recent days. My boss, Darren, who was, a and still is a 30 plus year youth ministry veteran, moved on to a different role, and I stepped into his seat and I inherited a team, with a combined less than one year of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience.

00:01:54:22 - 00:02:16:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There are four of them, but every single one of them has less than a year, and in some cases, less than six months of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience. They're eager. They're awesome. I love our team. But they're all very young. And so I started kind of thinking through, like, what are some of the things that we should be, that they should know?

00:02:16:08 - 00:02:41:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what are some of the things that have been foundational to me that I have known? And so, in previous, years when, you know, Dan was on the team and I was his right hand man, him and I kind of in tandem led these, lunch and learn kind of like workshops. And so I went back through and I looked at what we did last year, and then I looked ahead and, I started, like, thinking, like, what was some of the most core or, like, foundational things for me growing up.

00:02:41:24 - 00:03:02:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this is essentially like my, like, must have go to like types of things, for youth pastors and frankly, for people in ministry because some of these things are not actually only like ministry specific. So, there are going to be links to every single one of these listed down below in the description. Make sure that you go check those out.

00:03:02:10 - 00:03:21:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There may be a small affiliate commission. Won't change the price for you. Some might not have it. Like, I don't know exactly. Which ones are which, but you can go ahead and check those out. But the first thing and so like in our what I'll do is I'll share, here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I'll share are like brunch and learn schedule.

00:03:21:13 - 00:03:51:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we meet once a month, for discussion around some of these topics. And now, I'm, I'm building it and setting it up in this particular way, to try and space out some of the obligation and some of the reading that I'm requiring of them. However. So, like, you need to understand, like I'm putting, like, shorter books, after longer books, and then I'm doing a video class in between some books and stuff like that so that it's not only reading and there's like videos in there.

00:03:51:14 - 00:04:07:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why I'm breaking it up, kind of the way that I'm breaking it up. But like, you can kind of go in any, any direction and like, depending on the appetite that you may or may not have for learning, that may or may not be better for you. So go ahead and try and kind of like take, take this with a grain of salt.

00:04:07:29 - 00:04:31:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm not saying you have to go in any particular order. I may recommend like a particular order, but you can go in, in whatever or you want. And I'll explain what each of the books kind of focus on. And so depending on your context, you can kind of, grab it, in that way. But for us, starting off, we're doing a 50 day devotional study from Sun Life called Knowing Him.

00:04:31:07 - 00:05:01:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now what is awesome about this book is a it's a devotional, so you can, like, add it and make it a part of just like your daily morning, like quiet time reading. And what it is, is it's an exploration through the life of Christ in 50 days, in chronological order. My senior pastor and then also like the founder of Sun Life, Dan Spader, and many of the guys kind of in that arena have sort of found the value in looking at the harmony of the Gospels in the chronological order life of Jesus.

00:05:01:23 - 00:05:31:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's what this 50 day study is, kind of built around. And I kid you not like, I'm not saying this hyperbolically this is perhaps the most beneficial, like devotional study that I have ever been through in my life. It's so impactful. So several videos back linked right up here talked about my, event strategy, the, the spiritual CPR and that kind of came, from the roots in the foundation of like, a sun life kind of strategy.

00:05:31:23 - 00:05:49:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this knowing him, is really like the core, kind of like foundation. Or like the, the chronological ness of, of it all. And so was really been cool is, my team right now they're working through this. And, one of the guys, he goes, you know, I just kind of assumed, like, I've been through a million Bible studies.

00:05:49:05 - 00:06:12:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I just kind of assumed the questions would be kind of lame and kind of basic. He's like, the study's fantastic. And the questions are really, really making me think so it's really, really good. And, we at a as our church, we try to position our church and thus our ministry after the chronological nature of Jesus and, and follow his blueprint and disciple making pathway for making leaders.

00:06:12:15 - 00:06:32:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, this devotional really helps, get our, our team into that headspace of, doing ministry like Jesus and exploring it through kind of a chronological lens. There's not a great way to buy this, honestly. They have kind of like a print on demand sort of deal, and our church, doesn't, want to pay tax because we're tax exempt.

00:06:32:14 - 00:06:47:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there wasn't a very easy way for me to figure out how to not do tax. But they do have a completely free e-book version of it. And so if you don't mind the e-book version and then maybe write down your answers in, like, a journal, then you can totally go that way and it's completely free.

00:06:47:26 - 00:07:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The next book that I recommend to all of our team as they're communicating is, in my opinion, the best communication resource out there from one Andy Stanley. Now, listen, I know that recently some of his, comments and some of his thinking have become a little bit polarizing in the church subculture. But you can't argue that he's not one of the best communicators out there.

00:07:09:20 - 00:07:42:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so he has a book on communicating for a change that I absolutely love. And so, some of our team has already been through that. And so for this, for our brunch and learn, I'm taking through, two people who have not yet been through that. And we're not only going to read it and discuss it, but we're also going to workshop like a future message for them, in this sort of way that Andy, builds out his, his messages, which is in his, his kind of famed and patented outline of me, then we, then God, then you, then we, and the the sort of thesis for his whole book is drive towards

00:07:42:16 - 00:07:59:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
one main point and then tell a story you know about you, that's the me. And then broaden it so that it includes everyone. And, you know, create this tension like, this is not only a new problem, but it's a we problem. But here's how God solves it. And here's one thing that you can do as a result of that.

00:07:59:23 - 00:08:20:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally, if we all did this, imagine how the world could be different or the world could change to really, really good framework. And I basically use it every single time I preach. Next. After that, we are moving into our youth ministry university, which we are platinum members at our church. If you're not, you should go check it out on Download Youth Ministry.

00:08:20:06 - 00:08:42:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
At least check out Collider, which is an amazing, you know, scope and sequence curriculum. You can use code Hybrid Ministry ten, if you want to get 10% off co-leader for the year. But we're using a, we're using the programing like a pro, which is Justin Knowles and Josh Griffin, and they're sort of like a programing course that they have on WAMU.

00:08:42:06 - 00:09:02:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I wanted to get our, our team thinking and talking about creative programing and, you know, that's actually a really, really high value for me, something that I care a lot about. In fact, that's one of the things that I talk about on my bonus, Patreon hybrid heroes podcast every single week. Hey, quick break.

00:09:02:22 - 00:09:19:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall.

00:09:19:06 - 00:09:42:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's why I created this the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts feed. So here's the thing you can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.

00:09:42:16 - 00:10:02:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And did you know that monthly hybrid? Here are Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast. They get this pack completely for free, so if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12 where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.

00:10:02:28 - 00:10:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So in addition to social media, in addition to programing like a pro, that is one of the things we're taking our team through.

00:10:23:01 - 00:10:46:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We are also then, after that, we're going to take them through the book Lead Small, which lead Small is actually sort of like written as a job description for small group leaders. It's kind of meant to hand to small group leaders. It's a really quick and fun read. And so, in the middle of sort of like our year, I dropped lead Small on them because I think it's probably going to be the quickest of all the reads that they're going to have to do.

00:10:46:22 - 00:11:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we'll have a discussion and that'll be, really us thinking and strategizing as staff about how we can equip our small group leaders to continue to lean into some of the core, kind of like five lead small principles. My friend Carrie Rae, who's, over on staff at y, AM3 60, he's famous for saying, like, any youth pastor could have written this book.

00:11:10:18 - 00:11:50:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Orange just went ahead and did it. And once again, I know that there's some, you know, stuff going on around with orange, but the core principles of Lead Small, which are taken from Scripture, are also, not, you know, they haven't, ceased to, to be relevant. And so they're still very useful to creating a good culture of relationships and connection and small group and most youth ministries, I would argue that are greater than 25 to 30, which is probably most of us are going to need to have a pretty strong lead, small culture, because, you as a youth pastor can't provide care for greater than 30 students.

00:11:50:01 - 00:12:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you need to, enlist small group leaders to help continue on in that care. It's a biblical principle. We see, Jethro challenged Moses to do that when Moses doing too much. And Jethro says you need to delegate. And and that's what we as youth pastors also need to do. Not because we don't care about students, not because we don't want to be in students lives, but because we want to equip our small group leaders to be kind of the torch bearers for some of that shepherding and pastoral care.

00:12:16:19 - 00:12:38:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's what the lead small principle is all about. The next thing we're going back to, why I'm university and we're looking at family ministry, just basically thinking like, how do we partner with parents? That's a core kind of like principle that all of us in youth ministry, should care about. That's what orange is kind of built off of, you know, like, the church and the churches.

00:12:38:07 - 00:12:56:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is I think the church is red. No, the family is red because it's their heart and their love, and the church is yellow because like the light of God. But together they should make orange. Right? And so it's partnering with families in your student and in your youth ministry. And so, youth minister University has a whole family ministry course.

00:12:56:27 - 00:13:19:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we're going to watch that and then we're going to discuss that as a team. This book right here is essentially my, small group, curriculum strategy guide. It is Sticky Church, written by Larry Osborne. And I read this book all the way back when I was an intern myself. And his whole premise is your church will grow when you're small.

00:13:19:15 - 00:13:43:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Groups are sticky. So it's but it's more than just lead small culture. It's what's the curriculum and what's the driving force within your small groups. And his premise is essentially you should do a sermon or whatever your main messages, sermon based small groups. And some of you, totally agree, which, you know, if if you are like a subscriber to co-leader, you understand that that's exactly like what it is like.

00:13:43:19 - 00:14:06:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You listen to the message and then you break into small groups to discuss it. In our context. We teach on one night and then our small group curriculum is taught on a whole nother day and a whole nother calendar time of the week. Which is similar to like a big church model where if you go to church and then you have small groups that meet decentralized host homes throughout the community, and they're discussing the pastor's sermon.

00:14:06:12 - 00:14:25:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a similar sort of mindset. So this comes from, I'm sure other people have this this idea in this mindset. But, I remember at first from Larry Osborne and I found this book to be incredibly helpful and incredibly impactful. Towards the end of the year, we're finally going to get into the why I'm university purpose driven youth ministry discussion.

00:14:25:09 - 00:14:45:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The only reason that this isn't higher, and the only reason that I don't recommend this sooner, is because, we kind of did like the knowing him, which is going to be a, a ministry philosophy and a ministry purpose, conversation and discussion. And so what I'm doing is I'm bringing this back around, bookending it at the end of the year.

00:14:45:07 - 00:15:04:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the book dug this book. Phenomenal. I love this book. I was just trying to cut down on the reading, and I saw that there was a video course. And so we're going to go ahead and have take our team through the video course and just kind of explore the five different purposes of the church, which again, we are already kind of like our team.

00:15:04:24 - 00:15:23:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our team has a good understanding of that as it pertains to like Jesus's disciple making pathway, like those sections on the pathway often are tied to different purposes of the church. So this will, be reiterating it and meshing into that way of thinking just from like a slightly different angle. So I'm really excited to bring this one back around.

00:15:23:28 - 00:15:47:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally, the ultimate bookend for church discipling by Dan Spader, one of my all time favorite books as well. It's he's the founder of Sun Life. And so just like we have four steps on our church's pathway, he has four chairs. And that it's going to pair really well with that knowing him and then that purpose driven youth ministry discussion I will give and I will give a nod.

00:15:47:26 - 00:16:06:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the only other reason I didn't include this book for all youth pastors is, this is like the goat of all youth ministry books. Is your first two years in youth ministry? The only reason I didn't include it for our team is because, as interns, they've already gone through it and read it. And so, I recommend that one as well.

00:16:06:18 - 00:16:24:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Written by Doug Fields as well. Phenomenal and fantastic book. And so if you're in youth ministry and if you're wondering, like, what do I do? How do I connect? Now, listen, you might be thinking, if you wrote that question like, how do I connect with teens in like this new world that you're like, these aren't that new of resources?

00:16:24:24 - 00:16:48:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you're right. And maybe it's because I'm an old fuddy duddy. Or I think that some of these things are tied to the Great Commission and are key to like some, some youth ministry like purpose, which, you know, purpose driven youth ministry for church discipling and knowing him are all like youth ministry strategy and church ministry strategy, doing and running church and making disciples like Jesus.

00:16:48:18 - 00:17:08:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then within that you got teaching and programing. So those are in there. And then finally, leading small group. So you got lead small and you got sticky church. And then the last piece is how do we partner with parents? And that's why we included that family ministry piece. All these things really help hopefully give a good holistic view of of good youth ministry.

00:17:08:05 - 00:17:25:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, you know, I've been youth ministry for 15 years. These are some of the core things that have helped shape my thinking and some of what I do as well. And let me just say kind of one final piece, like, if you're not a platinum member, you should become one because they give you a conference registration ticket and some of those do.

00:17:25:22 - 00:17:47:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I am 100 roundtables conferences, have been some of the most formative things to my youth ministry thinking and, my, my honestly, my health and my longevity in being a youth pastor for more than 15 years. So, hey, hope you found this episode helpful. We're going to be answering some questions in the subsequent episodes. It'll be linked in a playlist, or you can tap the video that you see right here on screen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:03 - 00:00:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Nicholas's Theological Seminary, or as my new resident recently called it, the n c t s. Now, listen, I'm not actually starting to sing you, but if you are brand new to youth ministry and you're wondering, like this person and this youth pastor Facebook group who said, hey, I am new to youth ministry and I've been out of the youth ministry position for 11 years.

00:00:27:26 - 00:00:59:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So anyone have any new books or resources that will help me with today's youth, ages 9 to 18 at this new position? They've had trouble the last year with getting volunteers, kids showing up and committing to events. If anyone has any advice on these things that would help. Thank you and good luck with your ministry. If that's you, or if you're asking a question like that, well then today you're in the right place because what I'm actually going to be doing is I'm going to be breaking down five must-read youth ministry books paired with three video courses.

00:00:59:07 - 00:01:30:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those two things paired together are going to give you a solid foundation for preaching, programing, and discipling students in today's world. Welcome, everyone to the hybrid ministry Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. For a quick bit of context. Just as a reminder, there are always chapters listed down below. In this episode, I'm breaking down what you should be reading and what you can be using as prep as a new or, building a foundation in youth ministry.

00:01:30:18 - 00:01:54:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this really came to light in, recent days. My boss, Darren, who was, a and still is a 30 plus year youth ministry veteran, moved on to a different role, and I stepped into his seat and I inherited a team, with a combined less than one year of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience.

00:01:54:22 - 00:02:16:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There are four of them, but every single one of them has less than a year, and in some cases, less than six months of paid professional, full time youth ministry experience. They're eager. They're awesome. I love our team. But they're all very young. And so I started kind of thinking through, like, what are some of the things that we should be, that they should know?

00:02:16:08 - 00:02:41:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what are some of the things that have been foundational to me that I have known? And so, in previous, years when, you know, Dan was on the team and I was his right hand man, him and I kind of in tandem led these, lunch and learn kind of like workshops. And so I went back through and I looked at what we did last year, and then I looked ahead and, I started, like, thinking, like, what was some of the most core or, like, foundational things for me growing up.

00:02:41:24 - 00:03:02:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so this is essentially like my, like, must have go to like types of things, for youth pastors and frankly, for people in ministry because some of these things are not actually only like ministry specific. So, there are going to be links to every single one of these listed down below in the description. Make sure that you go check those out.

00:03:02:10 - 00:03:21:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There may be a small affiliate commission. Won't change the price for you. Some might not have it. Like, I don't know exactly. Which ones are which, but you can go ahead and check those out. But the first thing and so like in our what I'll do is I'll share, here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I'll share are like brunch and learn schedule.

00:03:21:13 - 00:03:51:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we meet once a month, for discussion around some of these topics. And now, I'm, I'm building it and setting it up in this particular way, to try and space out some of the obligation and some of the reading that I'm requiring of them. However. So, like, you need to understand, like I'm putting, like, shorter books, after longer books, and then I'm doing a video class in between some books and stuff like that so that it's not only reading and there's like videos in there.

00:03:51:14 - 00:04:07:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why I'm breaking it up, kind of the way that I'm breaking it up. But like, you can kind of go in any, any direction and like, depending on the appetite that you may or may not have for learning, that may or may not be better for you. So go ahead and try and kind of like take, take this with a grain of salt.

00:04:07:29 - 00:04:31:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm not saying you have to go in any particular order. I may recommend like a particular order, but you can go in, in whatever or you want. And I'll explain what each of the books kind of focus on. And so depending on your context, you can kind of, grab it, in that way. But for us, starting off, we're doing a 50 day devotional study from Sun Life called Knowing Him.

00:04:31:07 - 00:05:01:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now what is awesome about this book is a it's a devotional, so you can, like, add it and make it a part of just like your daily morning, like quiet time reading. And what it is, is it's an exploration through the life of Christ in 50 days, in chronological order. My senior pastor and then also like the founder of Sun Life, Dan Spader, and many of the guys kind of in that arena have sort of found the value in looking at the harmony of the Gospels in the chronological order life of Jesus.

00:05:01:23 - 00:05:31:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's what this 50 day study is, kind of built around. And I kid you not like, I'm not saying this hyperbolically this is perhaps the most beneficial, like devotional study that I have ever been through in my life. It's so impactful. So several videos back linked right up here talked about my, event strategy, the, the spiritual CPR and that kind of came, from the roots in the foundation of like, a sun life kind of strategy.

00:05:31:23 - 00:05:49:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this knowing him, is really like the core, kind of like foundation. Or like the, the chronological ness of, of it all. And so was really been cool is, my team right now they're working through this. And, one of the guys, he goes, you know, I just kind of assumed, like, I've been through a million Bible studies.

00:05:49:05 - 00:06:12:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I just kind of assumed the questions would be kind of lame and kind of basic. He's like, the study's fantastic. And the questions are really, really making me think so it's really, really good. And, we at a as our church, we try to position our church and thus our ministry after the chronological nature of Jesus and, and follow his blueprint and disciple making pathway for making leaders.

00:06:12:15 - 00:06:32:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, this devotional really helps, get our, our team into that headspace of, doing ministry like Jesus and exploring it through kind of a chronological lens. There's not a great way to buy this, honestly. They have kind of like a print on demand sort of deal, and our church, doesn't, want to pay tax because we're tax exempt.

00:06:32:14 - 00:06:47:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there wasn't a very easy way for me to figure out how to not do tax. But they do have a completely free e-book version of it. And so if you don't mind the e-book version and then maybe write down your answers in, like, a journal, then you can totally go that way and it's completely free.

00:06:47:26 - 00:07:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The next book that I recommend to all of our team as they're communicating is, in my opinion, the best communication resource out there from one Andy Stanley. Now, listen, I know that recently some of his, comments and some of his thinking have become a little bit polarizing in the church subculture. But you can't argue that he's not one of the best communicators out there.

00:07:09:20 - 00:07:42:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so he has a book on communicating for a change that I absolutely love. And so, some of our team has already been through that. And so for this, for our brunch and learn, I'm taking through, two people who have not yet been through that. And we're not only going to read it and discuss it, but we're also going to workshop like a future message for them, in this sort of way that Andy, builds out his, his messages, which is in his, his kind of famed and patented outline of me, then we, then God, then you, then we, and the the sort of thesis for his whole book is drive towards

00:07:42:16 - 00:07:59:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
one main point and then tell a story you know about you, that's the me. And then broaden it so that it includes everyone. And, you know, create this tension like, this is not only a new problem, but it's a we problem. But here's how God solves it. And here's one thing that you can do as a result of that.

00:07:59:23 - 00:08:20:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally, if we all did this, imagine how the world could be different or the world could change to really, really good framework. And I basically use it every single time I preach. Next. After that, we are moving into our youth ministry university, which we are platinum members at our church. If you're not, you should go check it out on Download Youth Ministry.

00:08:20:06 - 00:08:42:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
At least check out Collider, which is an amazing, you know, scope and sequence curriculum. You can use code Hybrid Ministry ten, if you want to get 10% off co-leader for the year. But we're using a, we're using the programing like a pro, which is Justin Knowles and Josh Griffin, and they're sort of like a programing course that they have on WAMU.

00:08:42:06 - 00:09:02:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I wanted to get our, our team thinking and talking about creative programing and, you know, that's actually a really, really high value for me, something that I care a lot about. In fact, that's one of the things that I talk about on my bonus, Patreon hybrid heroes podcast every single week. Hey, quick break.

00:09:02:22 - 00:09:19:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me ask you a question. Are you still waking up every day as a youth pastor, scrambling to figure out what you need to post on your social media? Blurry dodgeball. Pick a video that your leader sent you that's a little bit pixelated, because iPhone still hasn't updated fully to RCS yet. You see, you don't need that kind of stress this fall.

00:09:19:06 - 00:09:42:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's why I created this the fall seasonal social media pack for youth pastors. It is three months worth of done for you content done for you, paired with some customization so that you and your leaders and your students are the faces and the personalities on your student ministry Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts feed. So here's the thing you can grab my pack right now over on Patreon.

00:09:42:16 - 00:10:02:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And did you know that monthly hybrid? Here are Patreon members who only pay $4 per month and get a bonus podcast. They get this pack completely for free, so if you do the math for three months worth of social media content, it's only $12 where the pack is 1799. Either way, it is a steal for you and it will take away the stress of posting.

00:10:02:28 - 00:10:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can grab that pack right now and start becoming a master at social media and hybrid ministry. In your youth ministry context, rooting for you as you are crushing it this fall in your student ministry. So in addition to social media, in addition to programing like a pro, that is one of the things we're taking our team through.

00:10:23:01 - 00:10:46:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We are also then, after that, we're going to take them through the book Lead Small, which lead Small is actually sort of like written as a job description for small group leaders. It's kind of meant to hand to small group leaders. It's a really quick and fun read. And so, in the middle of sort of like our year, I dropped lead Small on them because I think it's probably going to be the quickest of all the reads that they're going to have to do.

00:10:46:22 - 00:11:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we'll have a discussion and that'll be, really us thinking and strategizing as staff about how we can equip our small group leaders to continue to lean into some of the core, kind of like five lead small principles. My friend Carrie Rae, who's, over on staff at y, AM3 60, he's famous for saying, like, any youth pastor could have written this book.

00:11:10:18 - 00:11:50:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Orange just went ahead and did it. And once again, I know that there's some, you know, stuff going on around with orange, but the core principles of Lead Small, which are taken from Scripture, are also, not, you know, they haven't, ceased to, to be relevant. And so they're still very useful to creating a good culture of relationships and connection and small group and most youth ministries, I would argue that are greater than 25 to 30, which is probably most of us are going to need to have a pretty strong lead, small culture, because, you as a youth pastor can't provide care for greater than 30 students.

00:11:50:01 - 00:12:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you need to, enlist small group leaders to help continue on in that care. It's a biblical principle. We see, Jethro challenged Moses to do that when Moses doing too much. And Jethro says you need to delegate. And and that's what we as youth pastors also need to do. Not because we don't care about students, not because we don't want to be in students lives, but because we want to equip our small group leaders to be kind of the torch bearers for some of that shepherding and pastoral care.

00:12:16:19 - 00:12:38:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's what the lead small principle is all about. The next thing we're going back to, why I'm university and we're looking at family ministry, just basically thinking like, how do we partner with parents? That's a core kind of like principle that all of us in youth ministry, should care about. That's what orange is kind of built off of, you know, like, the church and the churches.

00:12:38:07 - 00:12:56:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is I think the church is red. No, the family is red because it's their heart and their love, and the church is yellow because like the light of God. But together they should make orange. Right? And so it's partnering with families in your student and in your youth ministry. And so, youth minister University has a whole family ministry course.

00:12:56:27 - 00:13:19:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we're going to watch that and then we're going to discuss that as a team. This book right here is essentially my, small group, curriculum strategy guide. It is Sticky Church, written by Larry Osborne. And I read this book all the way back when I was an intern myself. And his whole premise is your church will grow when you're small.

00:13:19:15 - 00:13:43:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Groups are sticky. So it's but it's more than just lead small culture. It's what's the curriculum and what's the driving force within your small groups. And his premise is essentially you should do a sermon or whatever your main messages, sermon based small groups. And some of you, totally agree, which, you know, if if you are like a subscriber to co-leader, you understand that that's exactly like what it is like.

00:13:43:19 - 00:14:06:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You listen to the message and then you break into small groups to discuss it. In our context. We teach on one night and then our small group curriculum is taught on a whole nother day and a whole nother calendar time of the week. Which is similar to like a big church model where if you go to church and then you have small groups that meet decentralized host homes throughout the community, and they're discussing the pastor's sermon.

00:14:06:12 - 00:14:25:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a similar sort of mindset. So this comes from, I'm sure other people have this this idea in this mindset. But, I remember at first from Larry Osborne and I found this book to be incredibly helpful and incredibly impactful. Towards the end of the year, we're finally going to get into the why I'm university purpose driven youth ministry discussion.

00:14:25:09 - 00:14:45:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The only reason that this isn't higher, and the only reason that I don't recommend this sooner, is because, we kind of did like the knowing him, which is going to be a, a ministry philosophy and a ministry purpose, conversation and discussion. And so what I'm doing is I'm bringing this back around, bookending it at the end of the year.

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And the book dug this book. Phenomenal. I love this book. I was just trying to cut down on the reading, and I saw that there was a video course. And so we're going to go ahead and have take our team through the video course and just kind of explore the five different purposes of the church, which again, we are already kind of like our team.

00:15:04:24 - 00:15:23:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our team has a good understanding of that as it pertains to like Jesus's disciple making pathway, like those sections on the pathway often are tied to different purposes of the church. So this will, be reiterating it and meshing into that way of thinking just from like a slightly different angle. So I'm really excited to bring this one back around.

00:15:23:28 - 00:15:47:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally, the ultimate bookend for church discipling by Dan Spader, one of my all time favorite books as well. It's he's the founder of Sun Life. And so just like we have four steps on our church's pathway, he has four chairs. And that it's going to pair really well with that knowing him and then that purpose driven youth ministry discussion I will give and I will give a nod.

00:15:47:26 - 00:16:06:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the only other reason I didn't include this book for all youth pastors is, this is like the goat of all youth ministry books. Is your first two years in youth ministry? The only reason I didn't include it for our team is because, as interns, they've already gone through it and read it. And so, I recommend that one as well.

00:16:06:18 - 00:16:24:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Written by Doug Fields as well. Phenomenal and fantastic book. And so if you're in youth ministry and if you're wondering, like, what do I do? How do I connect? Now, listen, you might be thinking, if you wrote that question like, how do I connect with teens in like this new world that you're like, these aren't that new of resources?

00:16:24:24 - 00:16:48:18
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And you're right. And maybe it's because I'm an old fuddy duddy. Or I think that some of these things are tied to the Great Commission and are key to like some, some youth ministry like purpose, which, you know, purpose driven youth ministry for church discipling and knowing him are all like youth ministry strategy and church ministry strategy, doing and running church and making disciples like Jesus.

00:16:48:18 - 00:17:08:05
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And then within that you got teaching and programing. So those are in there. And then finally, leading small group. So you got lead small and you got sticky church. And then the last piece is how do we partner with parents? And that's why we included that family ministry piece. All these things really help hopefully give a good holistic view of of good youth ministry.

00:17:08:05 - 00:17:25:22
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And, you know, I've been youth ministry for 15 years. These are some of the core things that have helped shape my thinking and some of what I do as well. And let me just say kind of one final piece, like, if you're not a platinum member, you should become one because they give you a conference registration ticket and some of those do.

00:17:25:22 - 00:17:47:27
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I am 100 roundtables conferences, have been some of the most formative things to my youth ministry thinking and, my, my honestly, my health and my longevity in being a youth pastor for more than 15 years. So, hey, hope you found this episode helpful. We're going to be answering some questions in the subsequent episodes. It'll be linked in a playlist, or you can tap the video that you see right here on screen.

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]]> Episode 162: 10 Free Time Stations for Youth Ministry - Fun, Easy & FREE! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/162 1f16d97f-ed7f-4687-b8dc-360c7e8cdb6f Thu, 14 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 162 10 Free Time Stations for Youth Ministry - Fun, Easy & FREE! full Nick Clason Looking for fun, easy, and totally free youth ministry ideas that actually engage students? In this episode of The Hybrid Ministry Show, Nick Clason shares 10 high-energy, low-prep free time station ideasโ€”from donut decorating to Mario Kart tournaments, 9 Square, Gaga Ball, social challenges, and moreโ€”all designed to boost student engagement and connection. If you're a youth pastor craving creative youth group games, fall event strategy, or hybrid ministry tips that work, this episode is packed with stealable ideas and a bonus resource you donโ€™t want to miss! 13:31 no Looking for fun, easy, and totally free youth ministry ideas that actually engage students? 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In this episode, I'm going to break down my outreach event strategy, which when I shared it with my friend Eric with the kids, he had this to say about it. I love that thank you notes. That's something I'm gonna steal for future videos. 00:00:19:27 - 00:00:52:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In this episode, I'm going to hit you with ten ideas that you are definitely going to want to head over to my YouTube channel so that you can screenshot these and use them for your upcoming fall outreach event. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show! Well, hey everyone, welcome to episode 162 of the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I'm going to be talking about one of the, strategies that we have for our outreach events that we've sort of stumbled into, and it's a little bit unique. 00:00:52:26 - 00:01:14:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, you heard what my friend Eric had to say about it, but essentially what it is, is it's creating moments of free time for your students. And so what I mean by that is we're not taking the full 90 minute block, or we're not taking the full 120 minute block of programing time that you have for your youth ministry and scheduling every single minute and making every single student do every single thing the entire time. 00:01:15:00 - 00:01:35:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But instead, what we're doing is we're opening up a window of time within our night, within our program to allow your students to kind of, like, choose their own adventure and do what they want to do. Now, if you're going to be using linked right here, the, download from the World's Greatest Donut Event Guide that we've been talking about, like, that's what, we've done before. 00:01:35:19 - 00:01:54:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I want, you know, if you're looking for something to do, I want you to consider maybe doing that event and you can incorporate these ideas, this strategy, into your upcoming fall outreach event. And so, go ahead and go grab that download. It's completely free. It's going to point you to a resource over On demand that you can use and implement. 00:01:54:07 - 00:02:22:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And these ideas are things that you can use, borrow, steal, and include in your upcoming fall outreach event. But the the philosophy behind it is, as we talked about a couple episodes ago, this is a cultivate in the spiritual CPR. This is a cultivate night. We're we're inviting friends were hanging out. We're just, kind of letting our hair down, kicking our feet up and hanging out with students and helping them see that church doesn't have to be confusing. 00:02:22:00 - 00:02:44:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Church doesn't have to be weird. But the other reason that this is advantageous is very simply, when you have a message included in your night, you don't have as much time to program. When you don't include your message, you have more time to program. And here's what we do. Oftentimes, we're still like plugging through our scope and sequence like we use Collider. 00:02:44:04 - 00:03:07:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, if you use Code hybrid ministry, I'll give you 10% off Collider for a year. So go check that out. They just dropped roadmaps. The first part of roadmaps year three. Really excited about the the judges series included in that. But, we'll just kind of keep plugging along in what we, you know, for a message that we should have taught on the night our outreach event is Worcester, upload it to YouTube. 00:03:08:01 - 00:03:30:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then our Sunday morning curriculum is derived off of our Wednesday night curriculum. And so we'll still have that conversation on Sunday morning, even though we didn't have the message on Wednesday night. And it's just on YouTube. And so at the end of the night, a lot of times we'll just show a little teaser clip and say, hey, this is over on YouTube, go check it out, scan this QR code if you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel. 00:03:30:08 - 00:03:55:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And they're off to the races. And I mean the whole the whole good news right about these, this donut event is that it's getting students onto your social media, which at the end of this completely free fall masterclass playlist, I'm going to teach you how to build a social media team run completely by students that helps them create content not only for other students in your ministry, but create content with other students in your ministry. 00:03:55:28 - 00:04:15:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so having this free time event opens up all of these things, opens up more options. And, you know, one of the things that we'll do is we'll, offer anywhere from like four or 5 or 6 different, like, things, little stations. And they have anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes on the longer end to do whatever them that they want. 00:04:15:18 - 00:04:36:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But one of the things that we've done to kind of encourage them or highlight what's available is we'll create a little passport or like a punch card, or if they go to a station and complete it, they'll get a little sticker for it. And what that does is it just helps them. First of all, give gives your students, and anyone who's new like a little map of your area, what's included where what's going on? 00:04:36:06 - 00:04:53:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What can we do right now? And then we'll say, hey, if you, complete if you go to all six stations, come and submit this card back in and we will give you a candy bar. And then we'll also put your, you know, name or your passport in, a drawing for the grand prize at the end of the night or something like that. 00:04:53:27 - 00:05:11:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, you know, if students are maybe not interested in all six of the things, and that's one of the reasons why we do it is because we know, like, not every single student is going to want to do every single type of game that you do. And so we'll include like some artsy and crafty type things. But then we'll also include some really, really active type things. 00:05:11:27 - 00:05:30:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so some students may be like, I'm more artsy. I don't want to do that active thing at all. And they're going to opt out of doing every single thing on the passport. But other kids, they might want to try to do all of it. And so they're going to try to run to every single station. So it just it it communicates what's available and it gives students an option to just win something. 00:05:30:13 - 00:05:47:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's just a fun way to kind of program it. I try to program the amount of time, like if we got 5 or 6 stations, I want to give them 30 to 35 minutes. I want there to be nearly not enough time for them to do everything, because when they leave, I want them to have in their mind like, oh my word, that event was so fun. 00:05:47:14 - 00:06:03:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I didn't even get to everything. And that's kind of like the vibe I want them to get in the car with with their parents, right? And when they're parents, like, how was it there? Like it was awesome. There is so much to do, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's kind of the vibe that we're going for. So if you're here on YouTube, these are going to flash up here on the screen. 00:06:04:01 - 00:06:24:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry These are free time stations that are high fun, but they're low prep. And some of these we've done before, others of them are ideas that I have for future ones. And if you're doing the World's Greatest Donut Event launch guide, you can use some of these. These are ones that we actually have pulled together, for the donut event starting with. 00:06:24:29 - 00:06:50:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The first one is we had a donut temporary tattoo parlor. And so we can have students come in and just get a temporary donut tattoo. Right. And it's like you're doing the scavenger hunt. Like, one of the things I've done is, a future idea is like, we've done a scavenger hunt is one of the clues on the scavenger hunt was to have to go and prove that you got a donut tattoo, so it's like you kind of kill two birds with one stone. 00:06:50:00 - 00:07:10:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They come to the scavenger hunt, which is a second idea, by the way. Come to the scavenger hunt. One of the one of the clues is you know, go to the donut tattoo thing and they prove that they've done it. And so in addition to it, we like I try to hybridize my scavenger hunt, which, if you didn't know by the way, I have a weekly bonus podcast over on Patreon. 00:07:10:00 - 00:07:36:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's only $4 a month, and I want you to think about that. Investment of $4 is like your creative programing assistant. Like, here's my question is $50 per year worth it for you to have? Almost like a programing and social media consultant and coach? Because that's essentially what this $4 tier would do. It's going to give you, for $48 for you, 12 times four. 00:07:36:07 - 00:07:57:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's going to give you, someone who's just doing this on the front lines and is evaluating everything that I'm doing and boots on the ground. I'm not just like some, you know, youth ministry content guy. Like, these are things I'm actually doing. And I'll, I'll coach you through just by the evaluation of my own strategy, how it's going, what's going well, what's not going as well. 00:07:57:00 - 00:08:15:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can just steal all that I'm doing and bonus points, at the end of this episode, I'm going to be dropping a product that's $17. That's going to be incredibly valuable to you as you continue to lean in on social media. That's going to be free if you're already a $4 tier member of the Hybrid Heroes podcast. 00:08:15:27 - 00:08:33:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I try to hybridize, and this is an example of thing I'll talk about on my podcast, The Scavenger Hunt. So, for example, we say, hey, prove to us that you voted on the first round of the donuts, because remember, at this event we're launching the bracket. And so we're doing donuts, seed number one versus donuts. Seed number 16. 00:08:33:28 - 00:08:53:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Donuts number eight versus donut seed number nine. Prove to us that you voted. And so, they can either vote with paper printouts which is the most boring, or they go on Instagram or YouTube and cast a poll style vote. Another one I'll do is I'll say, like in our most recent uploaded YouTube video, what was on so-and-so's shirt? 00:08:53:10 - 00:09:15:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What color was so-and-so's hat, who's teaching like or whatever? And so that'll also encourage them to pull their phones out. If they don't have a phone, go find someone who does have a phone and look at our YouTube channel. And then, you know, bonus points if you subscribe, like all those types of things, like, I'm trying to kind of lean into not only the other stations like the donut tattoo station, but also some of our hybrid ideas. 00:09:15:26 - 00:09:32:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so Scavenger Hunt is one of my all time favorite stations. Another one is just simple, right? Like create a board game station. Like we already have a bunch of board games in our cafe. In our game room. We'll just lay those on a table and say, you can go do board games. And here's the thing so low prep on your part. 00:09:32:22 - 00:09:53:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You don't have to do anything with it. We in this donut event, we've done donut decorating for like a couple nights ago in our youth ministry, it was National Sugar Cookie Day. We did sugar cookie decorating like you could do some sort of food decorating or craft decorating of sorts. One of the one of my all time favorite active games is steal the Bacon. 00:09:53:19 - 00:10:10:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in this event, we just do steal the donut. You can buy a big donut plush on Amazon, or you can just very simply like throw anything out there, like a piece of, like we've done, like I've done like a duck tape night before. And I took a piece of cardboard and I duct taped all around the cardboard, and we played steal the duct Tape. 00:10:11:03 - 00:10:27:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, whatever theme event you're doing, like, steal that thing for, like, a steal the bacon style game where you have ten people on one side, ten people on the other, or however many. Right. And you can number them off. So this is one, this is one, this is two. This is two. When you call that number, they run on into the middle. 00:10:27:22 - 00:10:45:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Another one of our all time favorite active games is we call it One of our volunteers labeled it here called poison, but I've grown up calling it Kajabi can can just with the big trash can in the middle. And you try to not touch the trash can by holding someone's, you know, hands and dragging them into the trash can. 00:10:45:14 - 00:11:08:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You want to be the last person standing. Here's a pro tip grab dog rope. Chew toys so that you're not holding someone's like, wrist and like, crushing their knuckles because inevitably you're going to have like a senior guy football player next to like, a seventh grade girl. And he's going to destroy her hand. So give them both, like, dog rope, chew toys to hang onto with, like the ropes on the end. 00:11:08:23 - 00:11:29:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry She's got a rope here. He's got rope here. And of course, if you break the chain, you're also out. Another thing that we've done before, and I'm just going to be honest, I don't know how well it worked, but we did like, big screen Mario Kart video game, tournament video games, and Mario Kart always a hit. The part that I'm not sure that worked was the tournament aspect. 00:11:29:24 - 00:11:45:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like it was kind of chaotic and didn't really know who's next and who's in line and, you know, whatever. But it was still fun. Overall, we have in our space, we have like a nine square, so we'll just say eight. You can you know, play nine square if you want. So that's an option. Gaga ball. That's an option. 00:11:45:17 - 00:12:04:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you don't know like I recommend two portable versions. And so maybe you're in like a shared space. But for an event like this, you can drag those out and set them up. Link down. Below is my, recommended nine square option and my recommended Gaga ball option. So those are things you make a little financial investment here on the front side, but then you can use this whenever you have a big event like this. 00:12:04:29 - 00:12:23:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And those can be a part of your station, some of the things that you offer. And then finally the social challenge. So social challenge I'm going to teach you how to do that here in a couple episodes. So make sure that you're subscribed. But the social challenge is we some social media content with our students, by our students every single Wednesday night. 00:12:24:01 - 00:12:43:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in the link below, I am going to share with you exactly how you can, build your own social media team and the exact strategy that we use. And like I said in a couple episodes, I'm going to flesh out a full class on how to build out a social media team based on student ministry volunteers and what that does. 00:12:43:13 - 00:13:03:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That just helps kind of continue to create those hybrid connections. You're doing it via social media. And like I said on August 28th, we're dropping something big that is going to help you get that social media team up and off the ground. So you're definitely going to want to make sure that you're subscribed. But for the next video here, we are going to now talk about we've done this donut event. 00:13:03:09 - 00:13:25:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We've welcome new students. We've included free time stations. Now let's look at event evaluation. How do we know whether or not we hit the mark? How do we know whether or not this event was successful? How do we know whether or not the budget money that we spent with, whether the juice there was worth the squeeze? We're going to answer all of those questions on the video that's linked right here on screen. 00:13:25:05 - 00:13:31:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So make sure that you tap into that and until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid. youth ministry, youth ministry podcast, hybrid ministry, Nick Clason, student ministry, youth pastor tips, youth group games, free time stations, fall youth ministry, youth group strategy, engaging students, youth event ideas, church games, donut game, passport game, low prep games, teen ministry, youth group fun, youth pastor resources, download youth ministry, youth group planning, 9 square, gaga ball, social media strategy, church outreach, youth group connection Looking for fun, easy, and totally free youth ministry ideas that actually engage students? 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00:00 This Strategy Make Him say what?!
00:36 The Freetime Strategy Explained
06:25 Donut Tattoos
06:39 Scavenger Hunt - Hybridized!
09:19 Board Games
09:36 Decorating
09:52 Steal The (Fill in the Blank)
10:29 Kajabi Can Can
11:14 Big Screen Mario Kart Tourney
11:37 9-Square
11:44 Gaga Ball
12:09 The Social Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:03 - 00:00:19:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your students don't want to sit through another 90 minute program. Can we be honest? Do you? In this episode, I'm going to break down my outreach event strategy, which when I shared it with my friend Eric with the kids, he had this to say about it. I love that thank you notes. That's something I'm gonna steal for future videos.

00:00:19:27 - 00:00:52:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In this episode, I'm going to hit you with ten ideas that you are definitely going to want to head over to my YouTube channel so that you can screenshot these and use them for your upcoming fall outreach event. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show! Well, hey everyone, welcome to episode 162 of the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I'm going to be talking about one of the, strategies that we have for our outreach events that we've sort of stumbled into, and it's a little bit unique.

00:00:52:26 - 00:01:14:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, you heard what my friend Eric had to say about it, but essentially what it is, is it's creating moments of free time for your students. And so what I mean by that is we're not taking the full 90 minute block, or we're not taking the full 120 minute block of programing time that you have for your youth ministry and scheduling every single minute and making every single student do every single thing the entire time.

00:01:15:00 - 00:01:35:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But instead, what we're doing is we're opening up a window of time within our night, within our program to allow your students to kind of, like, choose their own adventure and do what they want to do. Now, if you're going to be using linked right here, the, download from the World's Greatest Donut Event Guide that we've been talking about, like, that's what, we've done before.

00:01:35:19 - 00:01:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want, you know, if you're looking for something to do, I want you to consider maybe doing that event and you can incorporate these ideas, this strategy, into your upcoming fall outreach event. And so, go ahead and go grab that download. It's completely free. It's going to point you to a resource over On demand that you can use and implement.

00:01:54:07 - 00:02:22:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And these ideas are things that you can use, borrow, steal, and include in your upcoming fall outreach event. But the the philosophy behind it is, as we talked about a couple episodes ago, this is a cultivate in the spiritual CPR. This is a cultivate night. We're we're inviting friends were hanging out. We're just, kind of letting our hair down, kicking our feet up and hanging out with students and helping them see that church doesn't have to be confusing.

00:02:22:00 - 00:02:44:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Church doesn't have to be weird. But the other reason that this is advantageous is very simply, when you have a message included in your night, you don't have as much time to program. When you don't include your message, you have more time to program. And here's what we do. Oftentimes, we're still like plugging through our scope and sequence like we use Collider.

00:02:44:04 - 00:03:07:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, if you use Code hybrid ministry, I'll give you 10% off Collider for a year. So go check that out. They just dropped roadmaps. The first part of roadmaps year three. Really excited about the the judges series included in that. But, we'll just kind of keep plugging along in what we, you know, for a message that we should have taught on the night our outreach event is Worcester, upload it to YouTube.

00:03:08:01 - 00:03:30:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then our Sunday morning curriculum is derived off of our Wednesday night curriculum. And so we'll still have that conversation on Sunday morning, even though we didn't have the message on Wednesday night. And it's just on YouTube. And so at the end of the night, a lot of times we'll just show a little teaser clip and say, hey, this is over on YouTube, go check it out, scan this QR code if you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

00:03:30:08 - 00:03:55:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And they're off to the races. And I mean the whole the whole good news right about these, this donut event is that it's getting students onto your social media, which at the end of this completely free fall masterclass playlist, I'm going to teach you how to build a social media team run completely by students that helps them create content not only for other students in your ministry, but create content with other students in your ministry.

00:03:55:28 - 00:04:15:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so having this free time event opens up all of these things, opens up more options. And, you know, one of the things that we'll do is we'll, offer anywhere from like four or 5 or 6 different, like, things, little stations. And they have anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes on the longer end to do whatever them that they want.

00:04:15:18 - 00:04:36:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But one of the things that we've done to kind of encourage them or highlight what's available is we'll create a little passport or like a punch card, or if they go to a station and complete it, they'll get a little sticker for it. And what that does is it just helps them. First of all, give gives your students, and anyone who's new like a little map of your area, what's included where what's going on?

00:04:36:06 - 00:04:53:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What can we do right now? And then we'll say, hey, if you, complete if you go to all six stations, come and submit this card back in and we will give you a candy bar. And then we'll also put your, you know, name or your passport in, a drawing for the grand prize at the end of the night or something like that.

00:04:53:27 - 00:05:11:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, you know, if students are maybe not interested in all six of the things, and that's one of the reasons why we do it is because we know, like, not every single student is going to want to do every single type of game that you do. And so we'll include like some artsy and crafty type things. But then we'll also include some really, really active type things.

00:05:11:27 - 00:05:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so some students may be like, I'm more artsy. I don't want to do that active thing at all. And they're going to opt out of doing every single thing on the passport. But other kids, they might want to try to do all of it. And so they're going to try to run to every single station. So it just it it communicates what's available and it gives students an option to just win something.

00:05:30:13 - 00:05:47:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's just a fun way to kind of program it. I try to program the amount of time, like if we got 5 or 6 stations, I want to give them 30 to 35 minutes. I want there to be nearly not enough time for them to do everything, because when they leave, I want them to have in their mind like, oh my word, that event was so fun.

00:05:47:14 - 00:06:03:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I didn't even get to everything. And that's kind of like the vibe I want them to get in the car with with their parents, right? And when they're parents, like, how was it there? Like it was awesome. There is so much to do, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's kind of the vibe that we're going for. So if you're here on YouTube, these are going to flash up here on the screen.

00:06:04:01 - 00:06:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
These are free time stations that are high fun, but they're low prep. And some of these we've done before, others of them are ideas that I have for future ones. And if you're doing the World's Greatest Donut Event launch guide, you can use some of these. These are ones that we actually have pulled together, for the donut event starting with.

00:06:24:29 - 00:06:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first one is we had a donut temporary tattoo parlor. And so we can have students come in and just get a temporary donut tattoo. Right. And it's like you're doing the scavenger hunt. Like, one of the things I've done is, a future idea is like, we've done a scavenger hunt is one of the clues on the scavenger hunt was to have to go and prove that you got a donut tattoo, so it's like you kind of kill two birds with one stone.

00:06:50:00 - 00:07:10:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They come to the scavenger hunt, which is a second idea, by the way. Come to the scavenger hunt. One of the one of the clues is you know, go to the donut tattoo thing and they prove that they've done it. And so in addition to it, we like I try to hybridize my scavenger hunt, which, if you didn't know by the way, I have a weekly bonus podcast over on Patreon.

00:07:10:00 - 00:07:36:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's only $4 a month, and I want you to think about that. Investment of $4 is like your creative programing assistant. Like, here's my question is $50 per year worth it for you to have? Almost like a programing and social media consultant and coach? Because that's essentially what this $4 tier would do. It's going to give you, for $48 for you, 12 times four.

00:07:36:07 - 00:07:57:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's going to give you, someone who's just doing this on the front lines and is evaluating everything that I'm doing and boots on the ground. I'm not just like some, you know, youth ministry content guy. Like, these are things I'm actually doing. And I'll, I'll coach you through just by the evaluation of my own strategy, how it's going, what's going well, what's not going as well.

00:07:57:00 - 00:08:15:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can just steal all that I'm doing and bonus points, at the end of this episode, I'm going to be dropping a product that's $17. That's going to be incredibly valuable to you as you continue to lean in on social media. That's going to be free if you're already a $4 tier member of the Hybrid Heroes podcast.

00:08:15:27 - 00:08:33:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I try to hybridize, and this is an example of thing I'll talk about on my podcast, The Scavenger Hunt. So, for example, we say, hey, prove to us that you voted on the first round of the donuts, because remember, at this event we're launching the bracket. And so we're doing donuts, seed number one versus donuts. Seed number 16.

00:08:33:28 - 00:08:53:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Donuts number eight versus donut seed number nine. Prove to us that you voted. And so, they can either vote with paper printouts which is the most boring, or they go on Instagram or YouTube and cast a poll style vote. Another one I'll do is I'll say, like in our most recent uploaded YouTube video, what was on so-and-so's shirt?

00:08:53:10 - 00:09:15:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What color was so-and-so's hat, who's teaching like or whatever? And so that'll also encourage them to pull their phones out. If they don't have a phone, go find someone who does have a phone and look at our YouTube channel. And then, you know, bonus points if you subscribe, like all those types of things, like, I'm trying to kind of lean into not only the other stations like the donut tattoo station, but also some of our hybrid ideas.

00:09:15:26 - 00:09:32:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so Scavenger Hunt is one of my all time favorite stations. Another one is just simple, right? Like create a board game station. Like we already have a bunch of board games in our cafe. In our game room. We'll just lay those on a table and say, you can go do board games. And here's the thing so low prep on your part.

00:09:32:22 - 00:09:53:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You don't have to do anything with it. We in this donut event, we've done donut decorating for like a couple nights ago in our youth ministry, it was National Sugar Cookie Day. We did sugar cookie decorating like you could do some sort of food decorating or craft decorating of sorts. One of the one of my all time favorite active games is steal the Bacon.

00:09:53:19 - 00:10:10:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this event, we just do steal the donut. You can buy a big donut plush on Amazon, or you can just very simply like throw anything out there, like a piece of, like we've done, like I've done like a duck tape night before. And I took a piece of cardboard and I duct taped all around the cardboard, and we played steal the duct Tape.

00:10:11:03 - 00:10:27:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, whatever theme event you're doing, like, steal that thing for, like, a steal the bacon style game where you have ten people on one side, ten people on the other, or however many. Right. And you can number them off. So this is one, this is one, this is two. This is two. When you call that number, they run on into the middle.

00:10:27:22 - 00:10:45:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Another one of our all time favorite active games is we call it One of our volunteers labeled it here called poison, but I've grown up calling it Kajabi can can just with the big trash can in the middle. And you try to not touch the trash can by holding someone's, you know, hands and dragging them into the trash can.

00:10:45:14 - 00:11:08:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You want to be the last person standing. Here's a pro tip grab dog rope. Chew toys so that you're not holding someone's like, wrist and like, crushing their knuckles because inevitably you're going to have like a senior guy football player next to like, a seventh grade girl. And he's going to destroy her hand. So give them both, like, dog rope, chew toys to hang onto with, like the ropes on the end.

00:11:08:23 - 00:11:29:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
She's got a rope here. He's got rope here. And of course, if you break the chain, you're also out. Another thing that we've done before, and I'm just going to be honest, I don't know how well it worked, but we did like, big screen Mario Kart video game, tournament video games, and Mario Kart always a hit. The part that I'm not sure that worked was the tournament aspect.

00:11:29:24 - 00:11:45:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like it was kind of chaotic and didn't really know who's next and who's in line and, you know, whatever. But it was still fun. Overall, we have in our space, we have like a nine square, so we'll just say eight. You can you know, play nine square if you want. So that's an option. Gaga ball. That's an option.

00:11:45:17 - 00:12:04:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you don't know like I recommend two portable versions. And so maybe you're in like a shared space. But for an event like this, you can drag those out and set them up. Link down. Below is my, recommended nine square option and my recommended Gaga ball option. So those are things you make a little financial investment here on the front side, but then you can use this whenever you have a big event like this.

00:12:04:29 - 00:12:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those can be a part of your station, some of the things that you offer. And then finally the social challenge. So social challenge I'm going to teach you how to do that here in a couple episodes. So make sure that you're subscribed. But the social challenge is we some social media content with our students, by our students every single Wednesday night.

00:12:24:01 - 00:12:43:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in the link below, I am going to share with you exactly how you can, build your own social media team and the exact strategy that we use. And like I said in a couple episodes, I'm going to flesh out a full class on how to build out a social media team based on student ministry volunteers and what that does.

00:12:43:13 - 00:13:03:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That just helps kind of continue to create those hybrid connections. You're doing it via social media. And like I said on August 28th, we're dropping something big that is going to help you get that social media team up and off the ground. So you're definitely going to want to make sure that you're subscribed. But for the next video here, we are going to now talk about we've done this donut event.

00:13:03:09 - 00:13:25:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've welcome new students. We've included free time stations. Now let's look at event evaluation. How do we know whether or not we hit the mark? How do we know whether or not this event was successful? How do we know whether or not the budget money that we spent with, whether the juice there was worth the squeeze? We're going to answer all of those questions on the video that's linked right here on screen.

00:13:25:05 - 00:13:31:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So make sure that you tap into that and until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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00:00 This Strategy Make Him say what?!
00:36 The Freetime Strategy Explained
06:25 Donut Tattoos
06:39 Scavenger Hunt - Hybridized!
09:19 Board Games
09:36 Decorating
09:52 Steal The (Fill in the Blank)
10:29 Kajabi Can Can
11:14 Big Screen Mario Kart Tourney
11:37 9-Square
11:44 Gaga Ball
12:09 The Social Challenge

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TRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:03 - 00:00:19:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your students don't want to sit through another 90 minute program. Can we be honest? Do you? In this episode, I'm going to break down my outreach event strategy, which when I shared it with my friend Eric with the kids, he had this to say about it. I love that thank you notes. That's something I'm gonna steal for future videos.

00:00:19:27 - 00:00:52:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In this episode, I'm going to hit you with ten ideas that you are definitely going to want to head over to my YouTube channel so that you can screenshot these and use them for your upcoming fall outreach event. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show! Well, hey everyone, welcome to episode 162 of the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick Claussen, and I'm going to be talking about one of the, strategies that we have for our outreach events that we've sort of stumbled into, and it's a little bit unique.

00:00:52:26 - 00:01:14:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, you heard what my friend Eric had to say about it, but essentially what it is, is it's creating moments of free time for your students. And so what I mean by that is we're not taking the full 90 minute block, or we're not taking the full 120 minute block of programing time that you have for your youth ministry and scheduling every single minute and making every single student do every single thing the entire time.

00:01:15:00 - 00:01:35:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But instead, what we're doing is we're opening up a window of time within our night, within our program to allow your students to kind of, like, choose their own adventure and do what they want to do. Now, if you're going to be using linked right here, the, download from the World's Greatest Donut Event Guide that we've been talking about, like, that's what, we've done before.

00:01:35:19 - 00:01:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want, you know, if you're looking for something to do, I want you to consider maybe doing that event and you can incorporate these ideas, this strategy, into your upcoming fall outreach event. And so, go ahead and go grab that download. It's completely free. It's going to point you to a resource over On demand that you can use and implement.

00:01:54:07 - 00:02:22:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And these ideas are things that you can use, borrow, steal, and include in your upcoming fall outreach event. But the the philosophy behind it is, as we talked about a couple episodes ago, this is a cultivate in the spiritual CPR. This is a cultivate night. We're we're inviting friends were hanging out. We're just, kind of letting our hair down, kicking our feet up and hanging out with students and helping them see that church doesn't have to be confusing.

00:02:22:00 - 00:02:44:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Church doesn't have to be weird. But the other reason that this is advantageous is very simply, when you have a message included in your night, you don't have as much time to program. When you don't include your message, you have more time to program. And here's what we do. Oftentimes, we're still like plugging through our scope and sequence like we use Collider.

00:02:44:04 - 00:03:07:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, if you use Code hybrid ministry, I'll give you 10% off Collider for a year. So go check that out. They just dropped roadmaps. The first part of roadmaps year three. Really excited about the the judges series included in that. But, we'll just kind of keep plugging along in what we, you know, for a message that we should have taught on the night our outreach event is Worcester, upload it to YouTube.

00:03:08:01 - 00:03:30:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then our Sunday morning curriculum is derived off of our Wednesday night curriculum. And so we'll still have that conversation on Sunday morning, even though we didn't have the message on Wednesday night. And it's just on YouTube. And so at the end of the night, a lot of times we'll just show a little teaser clip and say, hey, this is over on YouTube, go check it out, scan this QR code if you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

00:03:30:08 - 00:03:55:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And they're off to the races. And I mean the whole the whole good news right about these, this donut event is that it's getting students onto your social media, which at the end of this completely free fall masterclass playlist, I'm going to teach you how to build a social media team run completely by students that helps them create content not only for other students in your ministry, but create content with other students in your ministry.

00:03:55:28 - 00:04:15:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so having this free time event opens up all of these things, opens up more options. And, you know, one of the things that we'll do is we'll, offer anywhere from like four or 5 or 6 different, like, things, little stations. And they have anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes on the longer end to do whatever them that they want.

00:04:15:18 - 00:04:36:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But one of the things that we've done to kind of encourage them or highlight what's available is we'll create a little passport or like a punch card, or if they go to a station and complete it, they'll get a little sticker for it. And what that does is it just helps them. First of all, give gives your students, and anyone who's new like a little map of your area, what's included where what's going on?

00:04:36:06 - 00:04:53:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What can we do right now? And then we'll say, hey, if you, complete if you go to all six stations, come and submit this card back in and we will give you a candy bar. And then we'll also put your, you know, name or your passport in, a drawing for the grand prize at the end of the night or something like that.

00:04:53:27 - 00:05:11:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, you know, if students are maybe not interested in all six of the things, and that's one of the reasons why we do it is because we know, like, not every single student is going to want to do every single type of game that you do. And so we'll include like some artsy and crafty type things. But then we'll also include some really, really active type things.

00:05:11:27 - 00:05:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so some students may be like, I'm more artsy. I don't want to do that active thing at all. And they're going to opt out of doing every single thing on the passport. But other kids, they might want to try to do all of it. And so they're going to try to run to every single station. So it just it it communicates what's available and it gives students an option to just win something.

00:05:30:13 - 00:05:47:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's just a fun way to kind of program it. I try to program the amount of time, like if we got 5 or 6 stations, I want to give them 30 to 35 minutes. I want there to be nearly not enough time for them to do everything, because when they leave, I want them to have in their mind like, oh my word, that event was so fun.

00:05:47:14 - 00:06:03:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I didn't even get to everything. And that's kind of like the vibe I want them to get in the car with with their parents, right? And when they're parents, like, how was it there? Like it was awesome. There is so much to do, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's kind of the vibe that we're going for. So if you're here on YouTube, these are going to flash up here on the screen.

00:06:04:01 - 00:06:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
These are free time stations that are high fun, but they're low prep. And some of these we've done before, others of them are ideas that I have for future ones. And if you're doing the World's Greatest Donut Event launch guide, you can use some of these. These are ones that we actually have pulled together, for the donut event starting with.

00:06:24:29 - 00:06:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first one is we had a donut temporary tattoo parlor. And so we can have students come in and just get a temporary donut tattoo. Right. And it's like you're doing the scavenger hunt. Like, one of the things I've done is, a future idea is like, we've done a scavenger hunt is one of the clues on the scavenger hunt was to have to go and prove that you got a donut tattoo, so it's like you kind of kill two birds with one stone.

00:06:50:00 - 00:07:10:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They come to the scavenger hunt, which is a second idea, by the way. Come to the scavenger hunt. One of the one of the clues is you know, go to the donut tattoo thing and they prove that they've done it. And so in addition to it, we like I try to hybridize my scavenger hunt, which, if you didn't know by the way, I have a weekly bonus podcast over on Patreon.

00:07:10:00 - 00:07:36:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's only $4 a month, and I want you to think about that. Investment of $4 is like your creative programing assistant. Like, here's my question is $50 per year worth it for you to have? Almost like a programing and social media consultant and coach? Because that's essentially what this $4 tier would do. It's going to give you, for $48 for you, 12 times four.

00:07:36:07 - 00:07:57:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's going to give you, someone who's just doing this on the front lines and is evaluating everything that I'm doing and boots on the ground. I'm not just like some, you know, youth ministry content guy. Like, these are things I'm actually doing. And I'll, I'll coach you through just by the evaluation of my own strategy, how it's going, what's going well, what's not going as well.

00:07:57:00 - 00:08:15:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can just steal all that I'm doing and bonus points, at the end of this episode, I'm going to be dropping a product that's $17. That's going to be incredibly valuable to you as you continue to lean in on social media. That's going to be free if you're already a $4 tier member of the Hybrid Heroes podcast.

00:08:15:27 - 00:08:33:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I try to hybridize, and this is an example of thing I'll talk about on my podcast, The Scavenger Hunt. So, for example, we say, hey, prove to us that you voted on the first round of the donuts, because remember, at this event we're launching the bracket. And so we're doing donuts, seed number one versus donuts. Seed number 16.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Donuts number eight versus donut seed number nine. Prove to us that you voted. And so, they can either vote with paper printouts which is the most boring, or they go on Instagram or YouTube and cast a poll style vote. Another one I'll do is I'll say, like in our most recent uploaded YouTube video, what was on so-and-so's shirt?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What color was so-and-so's hat, who's teaching like or whatever? And so that'll also encourage them to pull their phones out. If they don't have a phone, go find someone who does have a phone and look at our YouTube channel. And then, you know, bonus points if you subscribe, like all those types of things, like, I'm trying to kind of lean into not only the other stations like the donut tattoo station, but also some of our hybrid ideas.

00:09:15:26 - 00:09:32:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so Scavenger Hunt is one of my all time favorite stations. Another one is just simple, right? Like create a board game station. Like we already have a bunch of board games in our cafe. In our game room. We'll just lay those on a table and say, you can go do board games. And here's the thing so low prep on your part.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You don't have to do anything with it. We in this donut event, we've done donut decorating for like a couple nights ago in our youth ministry, it was National Sugar Cookie Day. We did sugar cookie decorating like you could do some sort of food decorating or craft decorating of sorts. One of the one of my all time favorite active games is steal the Bacon.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this event, we just do steal the donut. You can buy a big donut plush on Amazon, or you can just very simply like throw anything out there, like a piece of, like we've done, like I've done like a duck tape night before. And I took a piece of cardboard and I duct taped all around the cardboard, and we played steal the duct Tape.

00:10:11:03 - 00:10:27:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, whatever theme event you're doing, like, steal that thing for, like, a steal the bacon style game where you have ten people on one side, ten people on the other, or however many. Right. And you can number them off. So this is one, this is one, this is two. This is two. When you call that number, they run on into the middle.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Another one of our all time favorite active games is we call it One of our volunteers labeled it here called poison, but I've grown up calling it Kajabi can can just with the big trash can in the middle. And you try to not touch the trash can by holding someone's, you know, hands and dragging them into the trash can.

00:10:45:14 - 00:11:08:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You want to be the last person standing. Here's a pro tip grab dog rope. Chew toys so that you're not holding someone's like, wrist and like, crushing their knuckles because inevitably you're going to have like a senior guy football player next to like, a seventh grade girl. And he's going to destroy her hand. So give them both, like, dog rope, chew toys to hang onto with, like the ropes on the end.

00:11:08:23 - 00:11:29:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
She's got a rope here. He's got rope here. And of course, if you break the chain, you're also out. Another thing that we've done before, and I'm just going to be honest, I don't know how well it worked, but we did like, big screen Mario Kart video game, tournament video games, and Mario Kart always a hit. The part that I'm not sure that worked was the tournament aspect.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like it was kind of chaotic and didn't really know who's next and who's in line and, you know, whatever. But it was still fun. Overall, we have in our space, we have like a nine square, so we'll just say eight. You can you know, play nine square if you want. So that's an option. Gaga ball. That's an option.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you don't know like I recommend two portable versions. And so maybe you're in like a shared space. But for an event like this, you can drag those out and set them up. Link down. Below is my, recommended nine square option and my recommended Gaga ball option. So those are things you make a little financial investment here on the front side, but then you can use this whenever you have a big event like this.

00:12:04:29 - 00:12:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those can be a part of your station, some of the things that you offer. And then finally the social challenge. So social challenge I'm going to teach you how to do that here in a couple episodes. So make sure that you're subscribed. But the social challenge is we some social media content with our students, by our students every single Wednesday night.

00:12:24:01 - 00:12:43:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in the link below, I am going to share with you exactly how you can, build your own social media team and the exact strategy that we use. And like I said in a couple episodes, I'm going to flesh out a full class on how to build out a social media team based on student ministry volunteers and what that does.

00:12:43:13 - 00:13:03:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That just helps kind of continue to create those hybrid connections. You're doing it via social media. And like I said on August 28th, we're dropping something big that is going to help you get that social media team up and off the ground. So you're definitely going to want to make sure that you're subscribed. But for the next video here, we are going to now talk about we've done this donut event.

00:13:03:09 - 00:13:25:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've welcome new students. We've included free time stations. Now let's look at event evaluation. How do we know whether or not we hit the mark? How do we know whether or not this event was successful? How do we know whether or not the budget money that we spent with, whether the juice there was worth the squeeze? We're going to answer all of those questions on the video that's linked right here on screen.

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So make sure that you tap into that and until next time, and as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 159: Which Mic Should Youth Pastors Use? Pro vs Budget Options https://www.hybridministry.xyz/159 85205704-49b5-425e-a981-5ab704f8835c Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 159 Which Mic Should Youth Pastors Use? Pro vs Budget Options full Nick Clason In this video, Nick Clason breaks down *Which Microphone Youth Pastors Should Use*โ€”comparing budget phone mics, mid-tier gear like the Rode Wireless Go II, and pro options like the Sennheiser G4 and MKE 600. Whether you're filming TikTok devos, sermon recaps, or launching a youth ministry podcast, Nick gives real-world demos and witty insights so your church content sounds clear, not cringey. If you're investing in custom content through tools like Nick's Seasonal Social Media Pack, this mic guide ensures your message lands with excellence and clarityโ€”not broom closet vibes. 10:33 no In this video, Nick Clason breaks down Which Microphone Youth Pastors Should Useโ€”comparing budget phone mics, mid-tier gear like the Rode Wireless Go II, and pro options like the Sennheiser G4 and MKE 600. Whether you're filming TikTok devos, sermon recaps, or launching a youth ministry podcast, Nick gives real-world demos and witty insights so your church content sounds clear, not cringey. If you're investing in custom content through tools like Nick's Seasonal Social Media Pack, this mic guide ensures your message lands with excellence and clarityโ€”not broom closet vibes. โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link *๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET THE PACK FOR FREE! * https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/159 CELLPHONE MICS [Budget] //Microphones For Android: USB-C BLUETOOTH WIRELESS MICROPHONE: https://walmrt.us/4neBo5g SHOTGUN MICROPHONE: https://walmrt.us/3SDIbZ3 //Microphones For iPhones: Lightning BLUETOOTH WIRELESS 2 MICROPHONES: https://walmrt.us/4bm7DJV MID TIER MICS Rode Wirelss GoII https://walmrt.us/3T669vA PRO LEVEL MICS (Require Audio Interface Equipment - see below!) 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And I'm talking directly into my cell phone, 00:00:06:06 - 00:00:09:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry camera video and is being recorded to that audio track. 00:00:09:21 - 00:00:22:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Meanwhile, if you switch to this lapel style microphone you see on news anchor host weatherman Stephen Smith on ESPN, this microphone is nearly $700, and it requires an audio recording interface. 00:00:22:10 - 00:00:27:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we also have this middle of the road microphone here, podcast style microphone. 00:00:27:04 - 00:00:48:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you take my seasonal summer social media pack, which is less than $20, and you download it, you realize that as I'm hoping to help youth pastors create custom content that it's going to require at some points in time, a microphone. And what I want to do in this video is I want to show you all of the different array of options that you can use. 00:00:48:18 - 00:00:49:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All the way from like 00:00:49:20 - 00:00:50:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry budget microphones 00:00:50:25 - 00:00:51:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to the most 00:00:51:25 - 00:00:54:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry expensive Cadillac style microphones 00:00:54:00 - 00:01:09:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to these mid tier podcast, but really cool and vibey looking microphones that your students are going to love. Because in this episode, we're going to answer the question, which mic should you use for the content that you're creating in your youth ministry? Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:01:10:21 - 00:01:31:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What's up everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. You and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Klassen, and we're going to explore microphone. And they're really important because actually, right now, this exact audio is coming. Me talking directly to my camera on the other side of the room. You can see that so far of all the audios you heard is the worst style of audio. 00:01:32:00 - 00:01:51:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we're going to go through budget options as well as all the way up to the most expensive style of options. And you'll notice if you follow my hybrid ministry social media recommendations, that it's going to require you filming some of your own custom content, and that's going to require you to want to have a microphone, because this audio right here is just not doing it. 00:01:52:03 - 00:01:53:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So first we're going to look at budget 00:01:53:28 - 00:02:20:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Audio. This is my budget audio recommendation. It's one of these Bluetooth style microphones. They are really cheap. They clip on. They are wireless, which is nice. And they plug directly in to your phone. You can get these for less than $10. And at a minimum, what this does is the requirement for decent microphone audio is you just want to isolate the audio source away from the video source. 00:02:20:27 - 00:02:45:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now this one records directly into the actual video file. So you you like your video and your audio will be immediately linked up, which is good news. But I would say this one here, we're going to call this like the student ministry volunteer microphone. Like it's helpful. It gets the job done. But there's certainly like a lot more potential in your microphones. 00:02:45:04 - 00:03:01:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But this is the run of the mill, the most basic. And if you are on a tight budget, you should definitely consider grabbing something like this. This is usb-C direct into Android or into the newer iPhones, or you can find the lightning connections. Both are available at the links down below in the show notes. 00:03:02:12 - 00:03:18:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So this one right here is actually one of my newest recommendations. It's the road wireless go to. Not because I've been against it, but because it's just brand new. I just got it. And so right now I'm actually talking direct into my cell phone camera. 00:03:18:24 - 00:03:41:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And right now I'm talking direct into my Sony ZV one camera, which that, camera is actually also linked down below in the link included in the description. I would call this one like the church in terms of microphones, but it's the church intern that actually reads commentaries and has maybe gone to at least a couple like Bible College or seminary classes. 00:03:41:15 - 00:03:58:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, like, they know a little bit more what they're talking about. You can tell the quality on this microphone is quite a bit better than the quality of the last microphone. The pro, of course, is once again it's wireless. It's easy. And it can go direct into your cell phone. And so you don't need like a whole nother camera or anything to do that. 00:03:58:06 - 00:04:17:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It also doesn't need any sort of audio interface. The downside is that, you know, it's going to run out of battery, and the quality just it might not be up to, you know, full like, professional grade level of quality. But once again, these are for social media. So maybe that's totally not that that needed, you know. 00:04:17:07 - 00:04:27:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There are two of these actually in the pack. And so like you and then like, another person could each have one clip of mine or even use them for like a podcast, or something like that, if you really, you know, want it to go that route as well. 00:04:28:22 - 00:04:55:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This pro-level microphone is the Sennheiser lavalier system. It is the senior pastor of microphones. It's buttoned up, it's expensive, it's intimidating, and it's very, very serious about what the job needs to be and about getting the job done. This one is probably the most overkill. It is more broadcast quality. It's great for live, it's great for studio stuff. 00:04:55:29 - 00:05:14:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It is wireless. So you see, I have a pack that I have right here in my pocket. And this wire that's just like clipped on. Then here through my shirt. And then I have a receiver over there on my focus. Right. So this one does require an audio interface and it's not recording directly onto any of the video. 00:05:14:07 - 00:05:36:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you need to record this separately. You can use something like GarageBand or we use like Adobe Audition. But then you have to link this audio up with the audio from the camera. Now, I do have a couple other bonus options that might be worth considering, and I think I can add a little bit of punch to your studio, and we're going to check those out in the next section. 00:05:37:29 - 00:06:03:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This microphone right here is the Sennheiser M-k 600. I would call this one if the last one was the senior pastor of microphones. This one is the executive pastor of microphones. It you know, it knows where to aim. And it's going to hit every single time. But you also better know what you're doing. So the pros and cons of this are you do not need pro as you don't need a wireless interface. 00:06:03:19 - 00:06:25:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I am plugged directly into my Sony camera a can of course, is you will probably need some sort of adapter as this goes through an audio like one eighth cable inch headphone jack. And so you're going to need some sort of adapter, probably a microphone to usb-C or to lightning to go directly into your phone. The other con, of course, is it's wired okay. 00:06:25:11 - 00:06:43:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so like you're going to need, to have like an XLR cable. It's like what you would use for your worship, music or worship department. But you can see some of the pros of it. We use this a lot. We've used this almost exclusively, on our man on the Street videos. And so we've bought this, like, microphone flag with, like, our church branded logo in it. 00:06:43:16 - 00:07:02:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's also battery powered with just double A batteries. And so that's easier than trying to remember to plug in something that's like, usb-C or like rechargeable in that way. And so, this is a really good microphone. It is cheaper than the lavalier. And so this may be something that you want to do, when you buy it again, once again, link down below. 00:07:02:20 - 00:07:24:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There is an option to mount it directly on to your camera. And you can mount it there and then it's like a shotgun style. The downside of that is if there's any distance between the camera and the person, it's going to pick up everything in between. So, like this entire episode, I've been moving around to different corners of our youth ministry, social media studio. 00:07:24:25 - 00:07:39:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, we have had incredibly bad sound bleed through these walls, which go and lead to our auditorium, which is why we ended up going for this next bonus item that you're going to see here. In the next section of this video. 00:07:40:12 - 00:08:04:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And here we are. Back where we started. And these right here are the, podcast style microphones. There's once again a link down below in the show notes. You can check these out. These microphones are kind of like the youth pastor of microphones. They are professional. They're paid, they're full time. Hopefully you're full time and they're cool looking or like try hard, cool looking. 00:08:04:01 - 00:08:27:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Maybe you're giving it too much. But the fact of the matter is these much, much to the opposite of the shotgun microphones before I catch almost zero sound bleed. And so for most of our like, we do drafts and we do seven questions here in this room for most of these videos, these microphones do a fantastic job of picking up the audio of the students that are talking directly into it. 00:08:27:18 - 00:08:47:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Not to mention it cuts out some of the exterior wall noise that we were talking about in the last section and in the last clip. The cons of these, however, are they once again, they're XLR, so you are going to need like a music microphone. And oftentimes we use two of these. So you're going to need at least a two channel audio interface. 00:08:47:10 - 00:09:08:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We use the focus rate Scarlett. Air you can check that out once again. Link down below for that in the show notes. The con of that, of course, is that is going to be an upgraded and an additional cost. And so you'll just have to figure out between this one or the Bluetooth wireless or the Rode Go Wireless two, or the condenser microphone or the lavalier microphone. 00:09:09:03 - 00:09:32:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What microphone is best for you? Now here's what I'm going to tell you. I recorded all of this audio in its raw and rarest form. And so you're going to hear it. And you can now make the decision, based on listening to this podcast episode, which one you prefer and which one you like best, and which one sets in and makes the vibe for your student ministry and your social media. 00:09:32:24 - 00:09:53:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the good news is, this is no matter what you decide, my content, regardless of the quality of your microphone, whether you go budget or whether you go pro level, my content works for all of it. The 1799 summer seasonal Social Media Pack, which will allow you to not only get some done for your content, but it will also help encourage you to create some custom content. 00:09:53:23 - 00:10:18:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And why you want custom is because you want your students, your face, your leaders, and you want your social media to feel real, and you want it to feel like you. And these microphones will help enhance that experience. And I want you to have an amazing and popping off social media. Hey, members of my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast also get that downloadable social media pack which is going to drop four times per year. 00:10:18:20 - 00:10:33:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Every new season, they get it completely for free and as an included part of their membership tier, and it's actually cheaper to become a member than it is to download the pack outright. So consider doing that. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid. Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, Church Communication Tips, Social Media for Youth Ministry, ministry microphones, best mics for church, budget mic for pastors, pro audio for ministry, Rode Wireless Go II, Sennheiser G4 mic, podcast mic church, phone mic vs pro mic, YouTube for churches, Pro Church Tools, Brady Shearer, Andrew Schlect style, youth ministry tech, church video gear, audio setup for sermons, podcast setup for pastors, church livestream audio, mic comparison 2025 In this video, Nick Clason breaks down Which Microphone Youth Pastors Should Useโ€”comparing budget phone mics, mid-tier gear like the Rode Wireless Go II, and pro options like the Sennheiser G4 and MKE 600. Whether you're filming TikTok devos, sermon recaps, or launching a youth ministry podcast, Nick gives real-world demos and witty insights so your church content sounds clear, not cringey.

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CELLPHONE MICS [Budget]

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BLUETOOTH WIRELESS MICROPHONE:
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SHOTGUN MICROPHONE:
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MID TIER MICS

Rode Wirelss GoII
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PRO LEVEL MICS

(Require Audio Interface Equipment - see below!)
Sennheiser EW 112P G4 Portable Wireless Lavalier Microphone System Band G
https://walmrt.us/4b8jhr3

Sennheiser MKE 600 Shotgun Mic with XLR Plug to Jack 18โ€™ Cable
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PODCAST STYLE MICS

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FIFINE XLR/USB Dynamic Microphone for PC Computer, Studio Recording Mic
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Microphone Arm
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XLR Cables
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AUDIO INTERFACE

Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Audio Interface 3rd Gen
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Focusrite Scarlett 18i8-in-8-Out USB Audio Interface, 3rd Generation
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Sennheiser HD 569 Closed Back Wired Headphones
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CAMERA

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Which Mic is Best for You?
01:10 Budget Mic - Bluetooth Mic
03:01 Mid Tier - Rode Wireless GoII
04:28 Pro Level - Sennheiser Portable Wireless Lavalier
05:37 BONUS - Sennheiser MKE 600 Shotgun Mic
07:39 BONUS #2 - Podcast Mics

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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This microphone right here is less than $10. And I'm talking directly into my cell phone,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
camera video and is being recorded to that audio track.

00:00:09:21 - 00:00:22:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Meanwhile, if you switch to this lapel style microphone you see on news anchor host weatherman Stephen Smith on ESPN, this microphone is nearly $700, and it requires an audio recording interface.

00:00:22:10 - 00:00:27:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then we also have this middle of the road microphone here, podcast style microphone.

00:00:27:04 - 00:00:48:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you take my seasonal summer social media pack, which is less than $20, and you download it, you realize that as I'm hoping to help youth pastors create custom content that it's going to require at some points in time, a microphone. And what I want to do in this video is I want to show you all of the different array of options that you can use.

00:00:48:18 - 00:00:49:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All the way from like

00:00:49:20 - 00:00:50:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
budget microphones

00:00:50:25 - 00:00:51:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to the most

00:00:51:25 - 00:00:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
expensive Cadillac style microphones

00:00:54:00 - 00:01:09:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to these mid tier podcast, but really cool and vibey looking microphones that your students are going to love. Because in this episode, we're going to answer the question, which mic should you use for the content that you're creating in your youth ministry? Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:01:10:21 - 00:01:31:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What's up everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. You and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Klassen, and we're going to explore microphone. And they're really important because actually, right now, this exact audio is coming. Me talking directly to my camera on the other side of the room. You can see that so far of all the audios you heard is the worst style of audio.

00:01:32:00 - 00:01:51:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we're going to go through budget options as well as all the way up to the most expensive style of options. And you'll notice if you follow my hybrid ministry social media recommendations, that it's going to require you filming some of your own custom content, and that's going to require you to want to have a microphone, because this audio right here is just not doing it.

00:01:52:03 - 00:01:53:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So first we're going to look at budget

00:01:53:28 - 00:02:20:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Audio. This is my budget audio recommendation. It's one of these Bluetooth style microphones. They are really cheap. They clip on. They are wireless, which is nice. And they plug directly in to your phone. You can get these for less than $10. And at a minimum, what this does is the requirement for decent microphone audio is you just want to isolate the audio source away from the video source.

00:02:20:27 - 00:02:45:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now this one records directly into the actual video file. So you you like your video and your audio will be immediately linked up, which is good news. But I would say this one here, we're going to call this like the student ministry volunteer microphone. Like it's helpful. It gets the job done. But there's certainly like a lot more potential in your microphones.

00:02:45:04 - 00:03:01:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this is the run of the mill, the most basic. And if you are on a tight budget, you should definitely consider grabbing something like this. This is usb-C direct into Android or into the newer iPhones, or you can find the lightning connections. Both are available at the links down below in the show notes.

00:03:02:12 - 00:03:18:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So this one right here is actually one of my newest recommendations. It's the road wireless go to. Not because I've been against it, but because it's just brand new. I just got it. And so right now I'm actually talking direct into my cell phone camera.

00:03:18:24 - 00:03:41:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And right now I'm talking direct into my Sony ZV one camera, which that, camera is actually also linked down below in the link included in the description. I would call this one like the church in terms of microphones, but it's the church intern that actually reads commentaries and has maybe gone to at least a couple like Bible College or seminary classes.

00:03:41:15 - 00:03:58:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, like, they know a little bit more what they're talking about. You can tell the quality on this microphone is quite a bit better than the quality of the last microphone. The pro, of course, is once again it's wireless. It's easy. And it can go direct into your cell phone. And so you don't need like a whole nother camera or anything to do that.

00:03:58:06 - 00:04:17:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It also doesn't need any sort of audio interface. The downside is that, you know, it's going to run out of battery, and the quality just it might not be up to, you know, full like, professional grade level of quality. But once again, these are for social media. So maybe that's totally not that that needed, you know.

00:04:17:07 - 00:04:27:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There are two of these actually in the pack. And so like you and then like, another person could each have one clip of mine or even use them for like a podcast, or something like that, if you really, you know, want it to go that route as well.

00:04:28:22 - 00:04:55:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This pro-level microphone is the Sennheiser lavalier system. It is the senior pastor of microphones. It's buttoned up, it's expensive, it's intimidating, and it's very, very serious about what the job needs to be and about getting the job done. This one is probably the most overkill. It is more broadcast quality. It's great for live, it's great for studio stuff.

00:04:55:29 - 00:05:14:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is wireless. So you see, I have a pack that I have right here in my pocket. And this wire that's just like clipped on. Then here through my shirt. And then I have a receiver over there on my focus. Right. So this one does require an audio interface and it's not recording directly onto any of the video.

00:05:14:07 - 00:05:36:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you need to record this separately. You can use something like GarageBand or we use like Adobe Audition. But then you have to link this audio up with the audio from the camera. Now, I do have a couple other bonus options that might be worth considering, and I think I can add a little bit of punch to your studio, and we're going to check those out in the next section.

00:05:37:29 - 00:06:03:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This microphone right here is the Sennheiser M-k 600. I would call this one if the last one was the senior pastor of microphones. This one is the executive pastor of microphones. It you know, it knows where to aim. And it's going to hit every single time. But you also better know what you're doing. So the pros and cons of this are you do not need pro as you don't need a wireless interface.

00:06:03:19 - 00:06:25:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I am plugged directly into my Sony camera a can of course, is you will probably need some sort of adapter as this goes through an audio like one eighth cable inch headphone jack. And so you're going to need some sort of adapter, probably a microphone to usb-C or to lightning to go directly into your phone. The other con, of course, is it's wired okay.

00:06:25:11 - 00:06:43:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so like you're going to need, to have like an XLR cable. It's like what you would use for your worship, music or worship department. But you can see some of the pros of it. We use this a lot. We've used this almost exclusively, on our man on the Street videos. And so we've bought this, like, microphone flag with, like, our church branded logo in it.

00:06:43:16 - 00:07:02:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's also battery powered with just double A batteries. And so that's easier than trying to remember to plug in something that's like, usb-C or like rechargeable in that way. And so, this is a really good microphone. It is cheaper than the lavalier. And so this may be something that you want to do, when you buy it again, once again, link down below.

00:07:02:20 - 00:07:24:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There is an option to mount it directly on to your camera. And you can mount it there and then it's like a shotgun style. The downside of that is if there's any distance between the camera and the person, it's going to pick up everything in between. So, like this entire episode, I've been moving around to different corners of our youth ministry, social media studio.

00:07:24:25 - 00:07:39:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, we have had incredibly bad sound bleed through these walls, which go and lead to our auditorium, which is why we ended up going for this next bonus item that you're going to see here. In the next section of this video.

00:07:40:12 - 00:08:04:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here we are. Back where we started. And these right here are the, podcast style microphones. There's once again a link down below in the show notes. You can check these out. These microphones are kind of like the youth pastor of microphones. They are professional. They're paid, they're full time. Hopefully you're full time and they're cool looking or like try hard, cool looking.

00:08:04:01 - 00:08:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Maybe you're giving it too much. But the fact of the matter is these much, much to the opposite of the shotgun microphones before I catch almost zero sound bleed. And so for most of our like, we do drafts and we do seven questions here in this room for most of these videos, these microphones do a fantastic job of picking up the audio of the students that are talking directly into it.

00:08:27:18 - 00:08:47:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not to mention it cuts out some of the exterior wall noise that we were talking about in the last section and in the last clip. The cons of these, however, are they once again, they're XLR, so you are going to need like a music microphone. And oftentimes we use two of these. So you're going to need at least a two channel audio interface.

00:08:47:10 - 00:09:08:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We use the focus rate Scarlett. Air you can check that out once again. Link down below for that in the show notes. The con of that, of course, is that is going to be an upgraded and an additional cost. And so you'll just have to figure out between this one or the Bluetooth wireless or the Rode Go Wireless two, or the condenser microphone or the lavalier microphone.

00:09:09:03 - 00:09:32:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What microphone is best for you? Now here's what I'm going to tell you. I recorded all of this audio in its raw and rarest form. And so you're going to hear it. And you can now make the decision, based on listening to this podcast episode, which one you prefer and which one you like best, and which one sets in and makes the vibe for your student ministry and your social media.

00:09:32:24 - 00:09:53:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the good news is, this is no matter what you decide, my content, regardless of the quality of your microphone, whether you go budget or whether you go pro level, my content works for all of it. The 1799 summer seasonal Social Media Pack, which will allow you to not only get some done for your content, but it will also help encourage you to create some custom content.

00:09:53:23 - 00:10:18:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And why you want custom is because you want your students, your face, your leaders, and you want your social media to feel real, and you want it to feel like you. And these microphones will help enhance that experience. And I want you to have an amazing and popping off social media. Hey, members of my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast also get that downloadable social media pack which is going to drop four times per year.

00:10:18:20 - 00:10:33:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Every new season, they get it completely for free and as an included part of their membership tier, and it's actually cheaper to become a member than it is to download the pack outright. So consider doing that. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Which Mic is Best for You?
01:10 Budget Mic - Bluetooth Mic
03:01 Mid Tier - Rode Wireless GoII
04:28 Pro Level - Sennheiser Portable Wireless Lavalier
05:37 BONUS - Sennheiser MKE 600 Shotgun Mic
07:39 BONUS #2 - Podcast Mics

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:03 - 00:00:06:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This microphone right here is less than $10. And I'm talking directly into my cell phone,

00:00:06:06 - 00:00:09:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
camera video and is being recorded to that audio track.

00:00:09:21 - 00:00:22:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Meanwhile, if you switch to this lapel style microphone you see on news anchor host weatherman Stephen Smith on ESPN, this microphone is nearly $700, and it requires an audio recording interface.

00:00:22:10 - 00:00:27:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then we also have this middle of the road microphone here, podcast style microphone.

00:00:27:04 - 00:00:48:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you take my seasonal summer social media pack, which is less than $20, and you download it, you realize that as I'm hoping to help youth pastors create custom content that it's going to require at some points in time, a microphone. And what I want to do in this video is I want to show you all of the different array of options that you can use.

00:00:48:18 - 00:00:49:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All the way from like

00:00:49:20 - 00:00:50:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
budget microphones

00:00:50:25 - 00:00:51:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to the most

00:00:51:25 - 00:00:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
expensive Cadillac style microphones

00:00:54:00 - 00:01:09:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to these mid tier podcast, but really cool and vibey looking microphones that your students are going to love. Because in this episode, we're going to answer the question, which mic should you use for the content that you're creating in your youth ministry? Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:01:10:21 - 00:01:31:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What's up everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. You and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Klassen, and we're going to explore microphone. And they're really important because actually, right now, this exact audio is coming. Me talking directly to my camera on the other side of the room. You can see that so far of all the audios you heard is the worst style of audio.

00:01:32:00 - 00:01:51:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we're going to go through budget options as well as all the way up to the most expensive style of options. And you'll notice if you follow my hybrid ministry social media recommendations, that it's going to require you filming some of your own custom content, and that's going to require you to want to have a microphone, because this audio right here is just not doing it.

00:01:52:03 - 00:01:53:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So first we're going to look at budget

00:01:53:28 - 00:02:20:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Audio. This is my budget audio recommendation. It's one of these Bluetooth style microphones. They are really cheap. They clip on. They are wireless, which is nice. And they plug directly in to your phone. You can get these for less than $10. And at a minimum, what this does is the requirement for decent microphone audio is you just want to isolate the audio source away from the video source.

00:02:20:27 - 00:02:45:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now this one records directly into the actual video file. So you you like your video and your audio will be immediately linked up, which is good news. But I would say this one here, we're going to call this like the student ministry volunteer microphone. Like it's helpful. It gets the job done. But there's certainly like a lot more potential in your microphones.

00:02:45:04 - 00:03:01:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this is the run of the mill, the most basic. And if you are on a tight budget, you should definitely consider grabbing something like this. This is usb-C direct into Android or into the newer iPhones, or you can find the lightning connections. Both are available at the links down below in the show notes.

00:03:02:12 - 00:03:18:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So this one right here is actually one of my newest recommendations. It's the road wireless go to. Not because I've been against it, but because it's just brand new. I just got it. And so right now I'm actually talking direct into my cell phone camera.

00:03:18:24 - 00:03:41:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And right now I'm talking direct into my Sony ZV one camera, which that, camera is actually also linked down below in the link included in the description. I would call this one like the church in terms of microphones, but it's the church intern that actually reads commentaries and has maybe gone to at least a couple like Bible College or seminary classes.

00:03:41:15 - 00:03:58:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, like, they know a little bit more what they're talking about. You can tell the quality on this microphone is quite a bit better than the quality of the last microphone. The pro, of course, is once again it's wireless. It's easy. And it can go direct into your cell phone. And so you don't need like a whole nother camera or anything to do that.

00:03:58:06 - 00:04:17:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It also doesn't need any sort of audio interface. The downside is that, you know, it's going to run out of battery, and the quality just it might not be up to, you know, full like, professional grade level of quality. But once again, these are for social media. So maybe that's totally not that that needed, you know.

00:04:17:07 - 00:04:27:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There are two of these actually in the pack. And so like you and then like, another person could each have one clip of mine or even use them for like a podcast, or something like that, if you really, you know, want it to go that route as well.

00:04:28:22 - 00:04:55:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This pro-level microphone is the Sennheiser lavalier system. It is the senior pastor of microphones. It's buttoned up, it's expensive, it's intimidating, and it's very, very serious about what the job needs to be and about getting the job done. This one is probably the most overkill. It is more broadcast quality. It's great for live, it's great for studio stuff.

00:04:55:29 - 00:05:14:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It is wireless. So you see, I have a pack that I have right here in my pocket. And this wire that's just like clipped on. Then here through my shirt. And then I have a receiver over there on my focus. Right. So this one does require an audio interface and it's not recording directly onto any of the video.

00:05:14:07 - 00:05:36:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you need to record this separately. You can use something like GarageBand or we use like Adobe Audition. But then you have to link this audio up with the audio from the camera. Now, I do have a couple other bonus options that might be worth considering, and I think I can add a little bit of punch to your studio, and we're going to check those out in the next section.

00:05:37:29 - 00:06:03:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This microphone right here is the Sennheiser M-k 600. I would call this one if the last one was the senior pastor of microphones. This one is the executive pastor of microphones. It you know, it knows where to aim. And it's going to hit every single time. But you also better know what you're doing. So the pros and cons of this are you do not need pro as you don't need a wireless interface.

00:06:03:19 - 00:06:25:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I am plugged directly into my Sony camera a can of course, is you will probably need some sort of adapter as this goes through an audio like one eighth cable inch headphone jack. And so you're going to need some sort of adapter, probably a microphone to usb-C or to lightning to go directly into your phone. The other con, of course, is it's wired okay.

00:06:25:11 - 00:06:43:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so like you're going to need, to have like an XLR cable. It's like what you would use for your worship, music or worship department. But you can see some of the pros of it. We use this a lot. We've used this almost exclusively, on our man on the Street videos. And so we've bought this, like, microphone flag with, like, our church branded logo in it.

00:06:43:16 - 00:07:02:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's also battery powered with just double A batteries. And so that's easier than trying to remember to plug in something that's like, usb-C or like rechargeable in that way. And so, this is a really good microphone. It is cheaper than the lavalier. And so this may be something that you want to do, when you buy it again, once again, link down below.

00:07:02:20 - 00:07:24:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There is an option to mount it directly on to your camera. And you can mount it there and then it's like a shotgun style. The downside of that is if there's any distance between the camera and the person, it's going to pick up everything in between. So, like this entire episode, I've been moving around to different corners of our youth ministry, social media studio.

00:07:24:25 - 00:07:39:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, we have had incredibly bad sound bleed through these walls, which go and lead to our auditorium, which is why we ended up going for this next bonus item that you're going to see here. In the next section of this video.

00:07:40:12 - 00:08:04:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here we are. Back where we started. And these right here are the, podcast style microphones. There's once again a link down below in the show notes. You can check these out. These microphones are kind of like the youth pastor of microphones. They are professional. They're paid, they're full time. Hopefully you're full time and they're cool looking or like try hard, cool looking.

00:08:04:01 - 00:08:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Maybe you're giving it too much. But the fact of the matter is these much, much to the opposite of the shotgun microphones before I catch almost zero sound bleed. And so for most of our like, we do drafts and we do seven questions here in this room for most of these videos, these microphones do a fantastic job of picking up the audio of the students that are talking directly into it.

00:08:27:18 - 00:08:47:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not to mention it cuts out some of the exterior wall noise that we were talking about in the last section and in the last clip. The cons of these, however, are they once again, they're XLR, so you are going to need like a music microphone. And oftentimes we use two of these. So you're going to need at least a two channel audio interface.

00:08:47:10 - 00:09:08:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We use the focus rate Scarlett. Air you can check that out once again. Link down below for that in the show notes. The con of that, of course, is that is going to be an upgraded and an additional cost. And so you'll just have to figure out between this one or the Bluetooth wireless or the Rode Go Wireless two, or the condenser microphone or the lavalier microphone.

00:09:09:03 - 00:09:32:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What microphone is best for you? Now here's what I'm going to tell you. I recorded all of this audio in its raw and rarest form. And so you're going to hear it. And you can now make the decision, based on listening to this podcast episode, which one you prefer and which one you like best, and which one sets in and makes the vibe for your student ministry and your social media.

00:09:32:24 - 00:09:53:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the good news is, this is no matter what you decide, my content, regardless of the quality of your microphone, whether you go budget or whether you go pro level, my content works for all of it. The 1799 summer seasonal Social Media Pack, which will allow you to not only get some done for your content, but it will also help encourage you to create some custom content.

00:09:53:23 - 00:10:18:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And why you want custom is because you want your students, your face, your leaders, and you want your social media to feel real, and you want it to feel like you. And these microphones will help enhance that experience. And I want you to have an amazing and popping off social media. Hey, members of my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast also get that downloadable social media pack which is going to drop four times per year.

00:10:18:20 - 00:10:33:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Every new season, they get it completely for free and as an included part of their membership tier, and it's actually cheaper to become a member than it is to download the pack outright. So consider doing that. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 158: This Changes Everything - Train Up Teenagers! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/158 3600a0f2-5274-4766-93f5-d139329af230 Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 158 This Changes Everything - Train Up Teenagers! full Nick Clason In this episode, Nick Clason of the Hybrid Ministry Show, unpacks the #1 thing he's done to make his church's social media strategy keep running amidst the busy seasons. Not to mention, his full-scale strategy that will not only give you the space to level students up into leadership, but provide you with the posting plan while they're learning. Tune in! 8:15 no In this episode, Nick Clason of the Hybrid Ministry Show, unpacks the #1 thing he's done to make his church's social media strategy keep running amidst the busy seasons. Not to mention, his full-scale strategy that will not only give you the space to level students up into leadership, but provide you with the posting plan while they're learning. Tune in! โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link *๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET THE PACK FOR FREE! * https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/158 โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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What if this summer, rather than just discipling them, you actually turn them into influencers who are reaching their peers for Jesus through social media. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:00:20:14 - 00:00:41:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nicholas and the host of this here Hybrid Ministry podcast. And in this episode, I want to talk about why you should, train teen editors to edit and to manage your social media content. Why? Summer is the perfect window to do that. Also, how do you stay active on social media while you're in the midst of building up a team? 00:00:41:12 - 00:01:01:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And finally, I have the ultimate and most perfect solution for you, so be sure to stick around to the very end of the video. But the reason why you should be leaning into teenagers on social media is because, according to Pew Research, a recent study showed that 90% of teens and an even earlier studies showed that 95% of them spent regular time on YouTube. 00:01:01:05 - 00:01:25:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Not to mention the fact that they use their mobile device, Gen Z, more than any other device combined. And I think the screen time is up to an average of seven plus hours per day, which is the equivalent of watching the entire Lord of the rings trilogy every single day. And so this is where teenagers are. And the fact is, you and I work as youth pastors in a day and age where we can reach teenagers through their screens and through their devices. 00:01:25:25 - 00:01:41:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you should train teenagers to do that because you might not be well versed in it. You might be not be very good at it. And see, probably most importantly, you have other things to do. You got sermons to write, you got leaders to develop, you got bosses to meet with. You got students to grab coffee with. 00:01:41:29 - 00:02:10:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You have a plenty of other things going on in the meantime, you still should be reaching teenagers and reaching students and being present on your church's social media platform. In addition to that, it helps give students development and leadership and ownership. You know, according to the study, Growing Young by fellow Youth Institute, they said that key chain leadership was a key for students who grew up in youth group, but also chose to stick around in youth group after they graduated from high school. 00:02:10:15 - 00:02:32:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So what what actual areas of leadership and ownership are you handing to your teenagers? And the fact is, this is school is gone. Students have more, windows of availability. You should be teaching and training your students this summer to take your social media platform so that once you hit the fall, you are off to the off to the races and you hit the ground running with students managing and editing it. 00:02:32:09 - 00:02:51:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, last summer I remember I was sitting there, we had an intern on our staff, and then his younger brother was in sixth grade, maybe seventh grade. And they were just like sitting around. We were cleaning up after the night. And so his younger brother was still in the building with, you know, the rest of our team helping and just kind of hanging out, waiting for his brother to be ready to take him home. 00:02:51:24 - 00:03:07:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I looked at him and I said, hey, you want to learn how to edit TikTok videos? And he's like, sure. I say, have you ever done it before? He's like, no. And I was like, all right, sweet. I said, come in tomorrow, see if your brother, your mom can take you. Have him text me and, we'll get you set up. 00:03:07:21 - 00:03:30:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We'll get you editing. And so he came in the next day. We haven't have the luxury of having a spare computer sitting around, and I showed him how to edit and actually teaser. If you go and grab my, summer social media pack, you'll see that two of the bonus pieces of content are things called drafts, where you go back and forth with a student or with another person, and a game called Seven Questions. 00:03:30:11 - 00:03:45:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I got him set up editing that game. Seven questions real easy. I used Adobe Premiere Pro. I taught him how to use it. That's what I use. I taught him how to how to use what I know how to use. And, he was slow at first. He had a lot of questions, but I kid you not, this is not an exaggeration. 00:03:45:23 - 00:04:07:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This last week we haven't been meeting on Wednesday nights. And, so fast forwarding the story after he got up and running, he pretty much comes in every single Wednesday and edits for me. He's home school. He comes in around 2 or 3:00. He brings his dinner and he edits until youth group gets started around six. So he sits there for 2 or 3 hours and, we, we repaid him with free summer camp this year. 00:04:07:19 - 00:04:27:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or we'll let him get snacks at a liter workroom. And so we haven't been meeting on Wednesdays for the last several weeks. If you're a subscriber on my Hybrid Heroes Patreon membership to. You know that, we're back now, but, I called up his mom, and I said, hey, listen, like we haven't had a brand new edit for some of our social content in nearly five weeks, can you please send him? 00:04:27:29 - 00:04:47:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the reason I tell you that is because I want to. I want you to notice and see how reliant I actually have become on student editors. Like I don't touch edits anymore. And so the downside is I've filled my time with other things. And so if I don't have a student comes in, come in and edit, we're in a little bit of a hole. 00:04:47:15 - 00:05:08:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, he's been incredibly helpful with that. And so he's taking it taking it for us and kind of, you know, gone off to the races with that. And so student editors are amazing. And this summer, while they have more free time, if you choose to carve out a little bit of time, train up leaders, create a strategy for them, like help them understand and know what's next. 00:05:08:02 - 00:05:23:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can hand it off to them full stop. I genuinely mean it because I've seen it happen in my own context. But now you might be thinking like, what is a good strategy? Like, what should we be doing? I'm glad you asked. Actually, link down below is my free hybrid strategy guide. It will tell you exactly what we do. 00:05:24:01 - 00:05:46:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you buy my seasonal summer social media pack for only 1799, it's the cost of less than $0.07 per post idea. It will cover three months worth of posting or better yet, become a Patreon member. Get my weekly bonus podcast where I recap everything we've done and you get that resource for free. It will actually give you a three post per week strategy, and there's two sections of it. 00:05:46:28 - 00:06:02:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The first section of it is done for you, which means you don't have to think about it. The graphics work no matter what context you're in. You download and you upload and you're off to the races. You're done. The custom for you does require a little bit more work. And that right there is something that you could genuinely hand off to a teenager. 00:06:02:12 - 00:06:22:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There's devotional content. There's Bible trivia content. There's men on the street, content you can let your teenagers do all of those things, and they can own that, and you can just cut them loose to run wild with it. Maybe my custom for you ideas give them a springboard, but then they have better ideas. They should. I'm 35 years old. 00:06:22:29 - 00:06:41:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I have gray in my beard. There's no way that a teenager in Gen Alpha Gen Z doesn't have better ideas than I do. But my strategy will help give you, like, the track that you want your teenagers to stay on, and then this pack will help you hand off to teenagers to actually take it. And actually run with it. 00:06:41:29 - 00:07:03:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And for less than $20, you can have three months worth of content. It is so worth it. And that strategy will run not only in the background as you are getting your teenagers up to snuff, and as you're getting them trained and as you're getting them off to the races. But then additionally, it will give them something to continue to lean into and to own and to create that key chain style of leadership. 00:07:03:24 - 00:07:24:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You and I know this. The Apostle Paul says our job is to equip the saints for the works and for the acts of service. Your job is not to run a social media channel and to be a social media manager, but you have teenagers who are interested in it and would really be good at it. And so why don't you take the opportunity to level them up and to hand off a serving opportunity? 00:07:24:27 - 00:07:48:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The last thing I'll end with is this is our student social media team is our biggest and most energetic team serving team in our entire student ministry. Kids clamor to be on it. And so if you want to get kids involved in serving, because we know how important serving is not only for the retention long term and remaining involved in youth ministry, but also for their long term development of their faith. 00:07:48:29 - 00:08:09:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you want to do that, you need to start having a social media strategy and one that you can hand off to students and teenagers, and this pack will help you do that. Well, hey my friend, so glad that you're here. Don't forget, and as always, link down in the description to everything that we talked about. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single another episode the rest of the summer. 00:08:09:19 - 00:08:13:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But until next time. And as always, don't forget to stay hybrid. Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, Church Communication Tips, Social Media for Youth Ministry, train teen video editors, youth ministry content, student-led media, digital discipleship, summer youth ministry strategy, Adobe Premiere Pro training for students, TikTok for churches, church social media tips, mentoring student creators, content creation for churches, summer student interns, youth ministry leadership, church reels strategy, church interns summer, youth video editing, church digital teams In this episode, Nick Clason of the Hybrid Ministry Show, unpacks the #1 thing he's done to make his church's social media strategy keep running amidst the busy seasons. Not to mention, his full-scale strategy that will not only give you the space to level students up into leadership, but provide you with the posting plan while they're learning.
Tune in!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Develop Your Students
00:49 Why Have a Social Media Team?
04:58 Summer is the Perfect Window to Develop it
05:21 Your Full Social Media Strategy
06:48 A Content Strategy that Runs while you Train

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:20:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You've got teens who love TikTok, who know Capp cut better than you and are making videos all summer long. What if this summer, rather than just discipling them, you actually turn them into influencers who are reaching their peers for Jesus through social media. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:00:20:14 - 00:00:41:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nicholas and the host of this here Hybrid Ministry podcast. And in this episode, I want to talk about why you should, train teen editors to edit and to manage your social media content. Why? Summer is the perfect window to do that. Also, how do you stay active on social media while you're in the midst of building up a team?

00:00:41:12 - 00:01:01:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And finally, I have the ultimate and most perfect solution for you, so be sure to stick around to the very end of the video. But the reason why you should be leaning into teenagers on social media is because, according to Pew Research, a recent study showed that 90% of teens and an even earlier studies showed that 95% of them spent regular time on YouTube.

00:01:01:05 - 00:01:25:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not to mention the fact that they use their mobile device, Gen Z, more than any other device combined. And I think the screen time is up to an average of seven plus hours per day, which is the equivalent of watching the entire Lord of the rings trilogy every single day. And so this is where teenagers are. And the fact is, you and I work as youth pastors in a day and age where we can reach teenagers through their screens and through their devices.

00:01:25:25 - 00:01:41:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you should train teenagers to do that because you might not be well versed in it. You might be not be very good at it. And see, probably most importantly, you have other things to do. You got sermons to write, you got leaders to develop, you got bosses to meet with. You got students to grab coffee with.

00:01:41:29 - 00:02:10:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You have a plenty of other things going on in the meantime, you still should be reaching teenagers and reaching students and being present on your church's social media platform. In addition to that, it helps give students development and leadership and ownership. You know, according to the study, Growing Young by fellow Youth Institute, they said that key chain leadership was a key for students who grew up in youth group, but also chose to stick around in youth group after they graduated from high school.

00:02:10:15 - 00:02:32:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So what what actual areas of leadership and ownership are you handing to your teenagers? And the fact is, this is school is gone. Students have more, windows of availability. You should be teaching and training your students this summer to take your social media platform so that once you hit the fall, you are off to the off to the races and you hit the ground running with students managing and editing it.

00:02:32:09 - 00:02:51:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, last summer I remember I was sitting there, we had an intern on our staff, and then his younger brother was in sixth grade, maybe seventh grade. And they were just like sitting around. We were cleaning up after the night. And so his younger brother was still in the building with, you know, the rest of our team helping and just kind of hanging out, waiting for his brother to be ready to take him home.

00:02:51:24 - 00:03:07:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I looked at him and I said, hey, you want to learn how to edit TikTok videos? And he's like, sure. I say, have you ever done it before? He's like, no. And I was like, all right, sweet. I said, come in tomorrow, see if your brother, your mom can take you. Have him text me and, we'll get you set up.

00:03:07:21 - 00:03:30:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We'll get you editing. And so he came in the next day. We haven't have the luxury of having a spare computer sitting around, and I showed him how to edit and actually teaser. If you go and grab my, summer social media pack, you'll see that two of the bonus pieces of content are things called drafts, where you go back and forth with a student or with another person, and a game called Seven Questions.

00:03:30:11 - 00:03:45:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I got him set up editing that game. Seven questions real easy. I used Adobe Premiere Pro. I taught him how to use it. That's what I use. I taught him how to how to use what I know how to use. And, he was slow at first. He had a lot of questions, but I kid you not, this is not an exaggeration.

00:03:45:23 - 00:04:07:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This last week we haven't been meeting on Wednesday nights. And, so fast forwarding the story after he got up and running, he pretty much comes in every single Wednesday and edits for me. He's home school. He comes in around 2 or 3:00. He brings his dinner and he edits until youth group gets started around six. So he sits there for 2 or 3 hours and, we, we repaid him with free summer camp this year.

00:04:07:19 - 00:04:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or we'll let him get snacks at a liter workroom. And so we haven't been meeting on Wednesdays for the last several weeks. If you're a subscriber on my Hybrid Heroes Patreon membership to. You know that, we're back now, but, I called up his mom, and I said, hey, listen, like we haven't had a brand new edit for some of our social content in nearly five weeks, can you please send him?

00:04:27:29 - 00:04:47:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the reason I tell you that is because I want to. I want you to notice and see how reliant I actually have become on student editors. Like I don't touch edits anymore. And so the downside is I've filled my time with other things. And so if I don't have a student comes in, come in and edit, we're in a little bit of a hole.

00:04:47:15 - 00:05:08:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, he's been incredibly helpful with that. And so he's taking it taking it for us and kind of, you know, gone off to the races with that. And so student editors are amazing. And this summer, while they have more free time, if you choose to carve out a little bit of time, train up leaders, create a strategy for them, like help them understand and know what's next.

00:05:08:02 - 00:05:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can hand it off to them full stop. I genuinely mean it because I've seen it happen in my own context. But now you might be thinking like, what is a good strategy? Like, what should we be doing? I'm glad you asked. Actually, link down below is my free hybrid strategy guide. It will tell you exactly what we do.

00:05:24:01 - 00:05:46:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you buy my seasonal summer social media pack for only 1799, it's the cost of less than $0.07 per post idea. It will cover three months worth of posting or better yet, become a Patreon member. Get my weekly bonus podcast where I recap everything we've done and you get that resource for free. It will actually give you a three post per week strategy, and there's two sections of it.

00:05:46:28 - 00:06:02:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first section of it is done for you, which means you don't have to think about it. The graphics work no matter what context you're in. You download and you upload and you're off to the races. You're done. The custom for you does require a little bit more work. And that right there is something that you could genuinely hand off to a teenager.

00:06:02:12 - 00:06:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's devotional content. There's Bible trivia content. There's men on the street, content you can let your teenagers do all of those things, and they can own that, and you can just cut them loose to run wild with it. Maybe my custom for you ideas give them a springboard, but then they have better ideas. They should. I'm 35 years old.

00:06:22:29 - 00:06:41:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I have gray in my beard. There's no way that a teenager in Gen Alpha Gen Z doesn't have better ideas than I do. But my strategy will help give you, like, the track that you want your teenagers to stay on, and then this pack will help you hand off to teenagers to actually take it. And actually run with it.

00:06:41:29 - 00:07:03:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And for less than $20, you can have three months worth of content. It is so worth it. And that strategy will run not only in the background as you are getting your teenagers up to snuff, and as you're getting them trained and as you're getting them off to the races. But then additionally, it will give them something to continue to lean into and to own and to create that key chain style of leadership.

00:07:03:24 - 00:07:24:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You and I know this. The Apostle Paul says our job is to equip the saints for the works and for the acts of service. Your job is not to run a social media channel and to be a social media manager, but you have teenagers who are interested in it and would really be good at it. And so why don't you take the opportunity to level them up and to hand off a serving opportunity?

00:07:24:27 - 00:07:48:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last thing I'll end with is this is our student social media team is our biggest and most energetic team serving team in our entire student ministry. Kids clamor to be on it. And so if you want to get kids involved in serving, because we know how important serving is not only for the retention long term and remaining involved in youth ministry, but also for their long term development of their faith.

00:07:48:29 - 00:08:09:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you want to do that, you need to start having a social media strategy and one that you can hand off to students and teenagers, and this pack will help you do that. Well, hey my friend, so glad that you're here. Don't forget, and as always, link down in the description to everything that we talked about. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single another episode the rest of the summer.

00:08:09:19 - 00:08:13:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But until next time. And as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> In this episode, Nick Clason of the Hybrid Ministry Show, unpacks the #1 thing he's done to make his church's social media strategy keep running amidst the busy seasons. Not to mention, his full-scale strategy that will not only give you the space to level students up into leadership, but provide you with the posting plan while they're learning.
Tune in!

โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=productshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

*๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET THE PACK FOR FREE! *
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry

SHOW NOTES
Shownotes & Transcripts
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/158

โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU
Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications!
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms

๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE
https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book

๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching

๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry
Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz

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We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context!
The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe!
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๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU!
Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products
//VIDIQ
https://vidiq.com/hybrid

//BEST DYM RESOURCES
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym

//OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS
https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361

//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit

--------------
๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Develop Your Students
00:49 Why Have a Social Media Team?
04:58 Summer is the Perfect Window to Develop it
05:21 Your Full Social Media Strategy
06:48 A Content Strategy that Runs while you Train

--------------
TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:20:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You've got teens who love TikTok, who know Capp cut better than you and are making videos all summer long. What if this summer, rather than just discipling them, you actually turn them into influencers who are reaching their peers for Jesus through social media. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:00:20:14 - 00:00:41:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nicholas and the host of this here Hybrid Ministry podcast. And in this episode, I want to talk about why you should, train teen editors to edit and to manage your social media content. Why? Summer is the perfect window to do that. Also, how do you stay active on social media while you're in the midst of building up a team?

00:00:41:12 - 00:01:01:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And finally, I have the ultimate and most perfect solution for you, so be sure to stick around to the very end of the video. But the reason why you should be leaning into teenagers on social media is because, according to Pew Research, a recent study showed that 90% of teens and an even earlier studies showed that 95% of them spent regular time on YouTube.

00:01:01:05 - 00:01:25:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not to mention the fact that they use their mobile device, Gen Z, more than any other device combined. And I think the screen time is up to an average of seven plus hours per day, which is the equivalent of watching the entire Lord of the rings trilogy every single day. And so this is where teenagers are. And the fact is, you and I work as youth pastors in a day and age where we can reach teenagers through their screens and through their devices.

00:01:25:25 - 00:01:41:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you should train teenagers to do that because you might not be well versed in it. You might be not be very good at it. And see, probably most importantly, you have other things to do. You got sermons to write, you got leaders to develop, you got bosses to meet with. You got students to grab coffee with.

00:01:41:29 - 00:02:10:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You have a plenty of other things going on in the meantime, you still should be reaching teenagers and reaching students and being present on your church's social media platform. In addition to that, it helps give students development and leadership and ownership. You know, according to the study, Growing Young by fellow Youth Institute, they said that key chain leadership was a key for students who grew up in youth group, but also chose to stick around in youth group after they graduated from high school.

00:02:10:15 - 00:02:32:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So what what actual areas of leadership and ownership are you handing to your teenagers? And the fact is, this is school is gone. Students have more, windows of availability. You should be teaching and training your students this summer to take your social media platform so that once you hit the fall, you are off to the off to the races and you hit the ground running with students managing and editing it.

00:02:32:09 - 00:02:51:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, last summer I remember I was sitting there, we had an intern on our staff, and then his younger brother was in sixth grade, maybe seventh grade. And they were just like sitting around. We were cleaning up after the night. And so his younger brother was still in the building with, you know, the rest of our team helping and just kind of hanging out, waiting for his brother to be ready to take him home.

00:02:51:24 - 00:03:07:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I looked at him and I said, hey, you want to learn how to edit TikTok videos? And he's like, sure. I say, have you ever done it before? He's like, no. And I was like, all right, sweet. I said, come in tomorrow, see if your brother, your mom can take you. Have him text me and, we'll get you set up.

00:03:07:21 - 00:03:30:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We'll get you editing. And so he came in the next day. We haven't have the luxury of having a spare computer sitting around, and I showed him how to edit and actually teaser. If you go and grab my, summer social media pack, you'll see that two of the bonus pieces of content are things called drafts, where you go back and forth with a student or with another person, and a game called Seven Questions.

00:03:30:11 - 00:03:45:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I got him set up editing that game. Seven questions real easy. I used Adobe Premiere Pro. I taught him how to use it. That's what I use. I taught him how to how to use what I know how to use. And, he was slow at first. He had a lot of questions, but I kid you not, this is not an exaggeration.

00:03:45:23 - 00:04:07:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This last week we haven't been meeting on Wednesday nights. And, so fast forwarding the story after he got up and running, he pretty much comes in every single Wednesday and edits for me. He's home school. He comes in around 2 or 3:00. He brings his dinner and he edits until youth group gets started around six. So he sits there for 2 or 3 hours and, we, we repaid him with free summer camp this year.

00:04:07:19 - 00:04:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or we'll let him get snacks at a liter workroom. And so we haven't been meeting on Wednesdays for the last several weeks. If you're a subscriber on my Hybrid Heroes Patreon membership to. You know that, we're back now, but, I called up his mom, and I said, hey, listen, like we haven't had a brand new edit for some of our social content in nearly five weeks, can you please send him?

00:04:27:29 - 00:04:47:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the reason I tell you that is because I want to. I want you to notice and see how reliant I actually have become on student editors. Like I don't touch edits anymore. And so the downside is I've filled my time with other things. And so if I don't have a student comes in, come in and edit, we're in a little bit of a hole.

00:04:47:15 - 00:05:08:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, he's been incredibly helpful with that. And so he's taking it taking it for us and kind of, you know, gone off to the races with that. And so student editors are amazing. And this summer, while they have more free time, if you choose to carve out a little bit of time, train up leaders, create a strategy for them, like help them understand and know what's next.

00:05:08:02 - 00:05:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can hand it off to them full stop. I genuinely mean it because I've seen it happen in my own context. But now you might be thinking like, what is a good strategy? Like, what should we be doing? I'm glad you asked. Actually, link down below is my free hybrid strategy guide. It will tell you exactly what we do.

00:05:24:01 - 00:05:46:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you buy my seasonal summer social media pack for only 1799, it's the cost of less than $0.07 per post idea. It will cover three months worth of posting or better yet, become a Patreon member. Get my weekly bonus podcast where I recap everything we've done and you get that resource for free. It will actually give you a three post per week strategy, and there's two sections of it.

00:05:46:28 - 00:06:02:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first section of it is done for you, which means you don't have to think about it. The graphics work no matter what context you're in. You download and you upload and you're off to the races. You're done. The custom for you does require a little bit more work. And that right there is something that you could genuinely hand off to a teenager.

00:06:02:12 - 00:06:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's devotional content. There's Bible trivia content. There's men on the street, content you can let your teenagers do all of those things, and they can own that, and you can just cut them loose to run wild with it. Maybe my custom for you ideas give them a springboard, but then they have better ideas. They should. I'm 35 years old.

00:06:22:29 - 00:06:41:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I have gray in my beard. There's no way that a teenager in Gen Alpha Gen Z doesn't have better ideas than I do. But my strategy will help give you, like, the track that you want your teenagers to stay on, and then this pack will help you hand off to teenagers to actually take it. And actually run with it.

00:06:41:29 - 00:07:03:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And for less than $20, you can have three months worth of content. It is so worth it. And that strategy will run not only in the background as you are getting your teenagers up to snuff, and as you're getting them trained and as you're getting them off to the races. But then additionally, it will give them something to continue to lean into and to own and to create that key chain style of leadership.

00:07:03:24 - 00:07:24:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You and I know this. The Apostle Paul says our job is to equip the saints for the works and for the acts of service. Your job is not to run a social media channel and to be a social media manager, but you have teenagers who are interested in it and would really be good at it. And so why don't you take the opportunity to level them up and to hand off a serving opportunity?

00:07:24:27 - 00:07:48:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last thing I'll end with is this is our student social media team is our biggest and most energetic team serving team in our entire student ministry. Kids clamor to be on it. And so if you want to get kids involved in serving, because we know how important serving is not only for the retention long term and remaining involved in youth ministry, but also for their long term development of their faith.

00:07:48:29 - 00:08:09:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you want to do that, you need to start having a social media strategy and one that you can hand off to students and teenagers, and this pack will help you do that. Well, hey my friend, so glad that you're here. Don't forget, and as always, link down in the description to everything that we talked about. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single another episode the rest of the summer.

00:08:09:19 - 00:08:13:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But until next time. And as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 157: Whatโ€™s Better for Ministry? Done-for-You or Custom Social Media https://www.hybridministry.xyz/157 a097d85f-8b0a-44c3-ab60-54705c7ae142 Thu, 10 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 157 Whatโ€™s Better for Ministry? Done-for-You or Custom Social Media full Nick Clason Nick Clason breaks down the battle between Done-for-You and custom church social mediaโ€”and why your ministry might need both. Discover how a hybrid ministry strategy saves time and amplifies your churchโ€™s voice. This episode unpacks it all and points you to the โ˜€๏ธSUMMER Social Packโ€”the perfect combo of polish and personalization. 8:51 no Nick Clason breaks down the battle between Done-for-You and custom church social mediaโ€”and why your ministry might need both. Discover how a hybrid ministry strategy saves time and amplifies your churchโ€™s voice. This episode unpacks it all and points you to the โ˜€๏ธSUMMER Social Packโ€”the perfect combo of polish and personalization. โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link *๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET THE PACK FOR FREE! * https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/157 โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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Let's check it out. So let's break it down. DIY or custom social media is just simply better. Like, it's like eating organic. 00;00;29;18 - 00;00;55;08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, you know, it's better. You know, it's good for you. You know, it's what you should do. However, as you also probably know, it takes so much longer. And that's what leads us to then pivot back into the done for you. Because it's simple. It's easy and it's done for you. So let's break these two things down. So what are the pros of doing a custom social media? 00;00;55;10 - 00;01;29;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One with your name, your face, your personality? Well, the first thing is obviously it's tailored for your people. It can be tailored for your people because you're their pastor. You know what they like. You know who they are. You know what they need, and so you can create that for them on your social media feed. The other thing, like we talked about in the episode linked right here, is that it showcases your voice through a series of what Hubspot's trends report is calling Micro Connections. 00;01;29;08 - 00;01;50;12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Your voice becomes what people kind of gravity hate towards and are used to seeing on your social media. You want your voice and you want your face. And you got to think, if you're a pastor at a church, there's already an element to you, or there's already an element to your church where your people are familiar with your pastor's voice. 00;01;50;12 - 00;02;19;21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so why should your social media not continue to be an extension of that online? And then the last piece, of course, is that it has the opportunity to engage authentically. We're like a done for you or like a custom thing for you. Like doesn't quite have that as much as because it's just a bunch of rote, static graphics that were done and can be used on anyone's social feeds, across any church, in any part of the world, or any part of the country. 00;02;19;23 - 00;02;37;24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And while the graphics look amazing and maybe even better than what you can pull together, it's not really you. And you don't have the opportunity to then reach through that and engage authentically with your people, which is one of the problems, in my opinion as well, of doing something that is like a done for you, which we'll get to in just a second. 00;02;37;26 - 00;03;02;17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, the cons of like a custom social media feeds is it takes hours. And secondly, it also requires skill like you need typically a staff person who knows what they're doing. In my experience, a lot of pastors, a lot of church, ministry people, they don't have that skill or they don't have it yet. And so they don't hop in to learn that skill and therefore they just shy away from it. 00;03;02;17 - 00;03;27;06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which I get, like, we don't like to kind of put ourselves out there into new and sort of like uncharted territory. There is another thing out there that, let's just be honest, like, people feel this pressure to try and compete with every other big church in the country. Like, you can't be elevation and that's okay, right? It's not necessarily a bad thing that your church isn't the biggest, greatest, sleekest, best looking church. 00;03;27;06 - 00;03;50;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like it's okay that you're not. You can't be them. And, no one's expecting that of you. We just want you to be you. So let's move on then, and talk about the pros and the cons of done for you. Done for you is like ordering DoorDash, right? It's convenient, it's simple, it's easy. And best of all, there's no messy dishes to clean up. 00;03;50;11 - 00;04;09;10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You get all of the goodness and none of the work that has to go with it. So let's talk about the pros of done for you. First of all, and probably most obvious is that it saves you time. Like, you know, you're busy and this gives you a solution to your busyness to still remain active on social media. 00;04;09;13 - 00;04;42;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Secondly, you you look your feed looks more polished, like you have professional designers and professional graphic artists doing these done for you. Social packs. And so therefore you can lean into their expertise and you can just post their things. And then lastly, it helps you stay consistent because if you take over a fully custom social media strategy, you know that like eventually the week of VBS is going to hit, which is what I'm right in the middle of right now and I'm exhausted. 00;04;42;15 - 00;05;01;07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or you got summer camp, or you got a missions trip, and social media falls back to the back burner because you weren't able to stay consistent while you were on social media. So those are some of the pros of having done for you. It saves you time, it looks polished and it helps you stay consistent. But the cons what are some of the cons. 00;05;01;07 - 00;05;22;04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, it's going to feel cookie cutter right. Again, if they can do it for this church and your church, they can do it for a hundred other churches. The other thing is it definitely lacks your church's flavor like it's not your church on social media. It's some graphic designer in a lab who cooked it up hours away. And that's your on now on your church's social feed. 00;05;22;04 - 00;05;41;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like that's not really who you are. You're just borrowing something that someone made somewhere else. And then the last part is like, you gotta be honest. Like you might still have to tweak it a little bit. Like there might still be some things that don't exactly fit your church or your church's culture. And so therefore when you post it, captions whatever. 00;05;41;11 - 00;06;01;23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like you have to tweak some of it because it might not fit your exact vibe. What they gave you. And so there's still a little bit of work to do. So let's what's better? Like let's land it once and for all. Let's settle the debate done for you versus custom. What if I told you that you didn't have to choose? 00;06;01;24 - 00;06;27;21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah that's right, because I actually made for churches and for youth pastors the summer seasonal social media pact for this exact reason. It helps you stay consistent. It creates a social media posting calendar. Half of the packs are done for you like they're ones that work. They're sleek, they're modern, they look the part and you can just download them and post them and go and not think anything of them. 00;06;27;21 - 00;06;47;23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The other half of them are custom for you. So yes, a little bit more work, but I've tried to take the like all of the work that you're going to have to really do out of it. There are scripts. I just read the thing and do it direct into your camera. There are graphics just overlay the graphics. You look like a pro, but it's still you. 00;06;47;23 - 00;07;17;21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's still your church. It's still your people on your church, social media feed. All of those things are all in that, like, custom for you. And then I have a posting calendar so you can follow that in an effort to stay consistent. And so that if you do that, you won't fall off the wagon when it becomes a busy week, when it becomes VBS week, when you go off to summer camp, your social media will still have something regularly being posted to it three times per week, which is what what I recommend. 00;07;17;23 - 00;07;39;01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you download this pack and post at that rhythm of three times per week, it will get you through the months of June, July and August. And I get it. You're watching this video, this podcast dropped in the middle of July. You can grab it now and cram all in, because coming up in just a couple of weeks is going to be our full social media pack. 00;07;39;01 - 00;08;01;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you didn't know this members to my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast already for $4 per month, they get this pack as a part of their membership tier. So join get the bonus podcast where we're talking all things hybrid ministry. We're talking all things creative youth ministry programing. You'll get that delivered to your podcast catcher every single Monday morning without fail. 00;08;01;21 - 00;08;23;06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And every single time we drop a seasonal social media pack, it is yours for free and is yours for the taking. I would love to have you check those things out. They are made for you and this is just to hopefully help make your life easier. It really is an entire summer social media hybrid strategy locked and loaded. 00;08;23;06 - 00;08;47;25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's what I do in my church every single week, and I just want to help you win in your youth ministry. So skip the burn up. Skip the Canva at 9 p.m. on every single Sunday night, heading on into your week, and grab the best of both worlds with the summer seasonal social media pack. It is linked down below and let your summer get scroll worthy. 00;08;47;25 - 00;08;51;12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid. 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Done vs Custom Social Media
00:19 The Tension Filled Debate
00:51 Custom - Pros & Cons
03:39 Done for You - Pros & Cons

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TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;04 - 00;00;29;18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's settle the debate that has been splitting up church staff rooms for years. No, I'm not talking about oat milk or regular milk in your lattes. I'm talking about done for you. Social media versus custom social media. Let's check it out. So let's break it down. DIY or custom social media is just simply better. Like, it's like eating organic.

00;00;29;18 - 00;00;55;08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, you know, it's better. You know, it's good for you. You know, it's what you should do. However, as you also probably know, it takes so much longer. And that's what leads us to then pivot back into the done for you. Because it's simple. It's easy and it's done for you. So let's break these two things down. So what are the pros of doing a custom social media?

00;00;55;10 - 00;01;29;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One with your name, your face, your personality? Well, the first thing is obviously it's tailored for your people. It can be tailored for your people because you're their pastor. You know what they like. You know who they are. You know what they need, and so you can create that for them on your social media feed. The other thing, like we talked about in the episode linked right here, is that it showcases your voice through a series of what Hubspot's trends report is calling Micro Connections.

00;01;29;08 - 00;01;50;12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your voice becomes what people kind of gravity hate towards and are used to seeing on your social media. You want your voice and you want your face. And you got to think, if you're a pastor at a church, there's already an element to you, or there's already an element to your church where your people are familiar with your pastor's voice.

00;01;50;12 - 00;02;19;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so why should your social media not continue to be an extension of that online? And then the last piece, of course, is that it has the opportunity to engage authentically. We're like a done for you or like a custom thing for you. Like doesn't quite have that as much as because it's just a bunch of rote, static graphics that were done and can be used on anyone's social feeds, across any church, in any part of the world, or any part of the country.

00;02;19;23 - 00;02;37;24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And while the graphics look amazing and maybe even better than what you can pull together, it's not really you. And you don't have the opportunity to then reach through that and engage authentically with your people, which is one of the problems, in my opinion as well, of doing something that is like a done for you, which we'll get to in just a second.

00;02;37;26 - 00;03;02;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, the cons of like a custom social media feeds is it takes hours. And secondly, it also requires skill like you need typically a staff person who knows what they're doing. In my experience, a lot of pastors, a lot of church, ministry people, they don't have that skill or they don't have it yet. And so they don't hop in to learn that skill and therefore they just shy away from it.

00;03;02;17 - 00;03;27;06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which I get, like, we don't like to kind of put ourselves out there into new and sort of like uncharted territory. There is another thing out there that, let's just be honest, like, people feel this pressure to try and compete with every other big church in the country. Like, you can't be elevation and that's okay, right? It's not necessarily a bad thing that your church isn't the biggest, greatest, sleekest, best looking church.

00;03;27;06 - 00;03;50;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like it's okay that you're not. You can't be them. And, no one's expecting that of you. We just want you to be you. So let's move on then, and talk about the pros and the cons of done for you. Done for you is like ordering DoorDash, right? It's convenient, it's simple, it's easy. And best of all, there's no messy dishes to clean up.

00;03;50;11 - 00;04;09;10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You get all of the goodness and none of the work that has to go with it. So let's talk about the pros of done for you. First of all, and probably most obvious is that it saves you time. Like, you know, you're busy and this gives you a solution to your busyness to still remain active on social media.

00;04;09;13 - 00;04;42;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Secondly, you you look your feed looks more polished, like you have professional designers and professional graphic artists doing these done for you. Social packs. And so therefore you can lean into their expertise and you can just post their things. And then lastly, it helps you stay consistent because if you take over a fully custom social media strategy, you know that like eventually the week of VBS is going to hit, which is what I'm right in the middle of right now and I'm exhausted.

00;04;42;15 - 00;05;01;07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or you got summer camp, or you got a missions trip, and social media falls back to the back burner because you weren't able to stay consistent while you were on social media. So those are some of the pros of having done for you. It saves you time, it looks polished and it helps you stay consistent. But the cons what are some of the cons.

00;05;01;07 - 00;05;22;04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, it's going to feel cookie cutter right. Again, if they can do it for this church and your church, they can do it for a hundred other churches. The other thing is it definitely lacks your church's flavor like it's not your church on social media. It's some graphic designer in a lab who cooked it up hours away. And that's your on now on your church's social feed.

00;05;22;04 - 00;05;41;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like that's not really who you are. You're just borrowing something that someone made somewhere else. And then the last part is like, you gotta be honest. Like you might still have to tweak it a little bit. Like there might still be some things that don't exactly fit your church or your church's culture. And so therefore when you post it, captions whatever.

00;05;41;11 - 00;06;01;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you have to tweak some of it because it might not fit your exact vibe. What they gave you. And so there's still a little bit of work to do. So let's what's better? Like let's land it once and for all. Let's settle the debate done for you versus custom. What if I told you that you didn't have to choose?

00;06;01;24 - 00;06;27;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah that's right, because I actually made for churches and for youth pastors the summer seasonal social media pact for this exact reason. It helps you stay consistent. It creates a social media posting calendar. Half of the packs are done for you like they're ones that work. They're sleek, they're modern, they look the part and you can just download them and post them and go and not think anything of them.

00;06;27;21 - 00;06;47;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The other half of them are custom for you. So yes, a little bit more work, but I've tried to take the like all of the work that you're going to have to really do out of it. There are scripts. I just read the thing and do it direct into your camera. There are graphics just overlay the graphics. You look like a pro, but it's still you.

00;06;47;23 - 00;07;17;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's still your church. It's still your people on your church, social media feed. All of those things are all in that, like, custom for you. And then I have a posting calendar so you can follow that in an effort to stay consistent. And so that if you do that, you won't fall off the wagon when it becomes a busy week, when it becomes VBS week, when you go off to summer camp, your social media will still have something regularly being posted to it three times per week, which is what what I recommend.

00;07;17;23 - 00;07;39;01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you download this pack and post at that rhythm of three times per week, it will get you through the months of June, July and August. And I get it. You're watching this video, this podcast dropped in the middle of July. You can grab it now and cram all in, because coming up in just a couple of weeks is going to be our full social media pack.

00;07;39;01 - 00;08;01;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you didn't know this members to my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast already for $4 per month, they get this pack as a part of their membership tier. So join get the bonus podcast where we're talking all things hybrid ministry. We're talking all things creative youth ministry programing. You'll get that delivered to your podcast catcher every single Monday morning without fail.

00;08;01;21 - 00;08;23;06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And every single time we drop a seasonal social media pack, it is yours for free and is yours for the taking. I would love to have you check those things out. They are made for you and this is just to hopefully help make your life easier. It really is an entire summer social media hybrid strategy locked and loaded.

00;08;23;06 - 00;08;47;25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's what I do in my church every single week, and I just want to help you win in your youth ministry. So skip the burn up. Skip the Canva at 9 p.m. on every single Sunday night, heading on into your week, and grab the best of both worlds with the summer seasonal social media pack. It is linked down below and let your summer get scroll worthy.

00;08;47;25 - 00;08;51;12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid.

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00:19 The Tension Filled Debate
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's settle the debate that has been splitting up church staff rooms for years. No, I'm not talking about oat milk or regular milk in your lattes. I'm talking about done for you. Social media versus custom social media. Let's check it out. So let's break it down. DIY or custom social media is just simply better. Like, it's like eating organic.

00;00;29;18 - 00;00;55;08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, you know, it's better. You know, it's good for you. You know, it's what you should do. However, as you also probably know, it takes so much longer. And that's what leads us to then pivot back into the done for you. Because it's simple. It's easy and it's done for you. So let's break these two things down. So what are the pros of doing a custom social media?

00;00;55;10 - 00;01;29;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One with your name, your face, your personality? Well, the first thing is obviously it's tailored for your people. It can be tailored for your people because you're their pastor. You know what they like. You know who they are. You know what they need, and so you can create that for them on your social media feed. The other thing, like we talked about in the episode linked right here, is that it showcases your voice through a series of what Hubspot's trends report is calling Micro Connections.

00;01;29;08 - 00;01;50;12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your voice becomes what people kind of gravity hate towards and are used to seeing on your social media. You want your voice and you want your face. And you got to think, if you're a pastor at a church, there's already an element to you, or there's already an element to your church where your people are familiar with your pastor's voice.

00;01;50;12 - 00;02;19;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so why should your social media not continue to be an extension of that online? And then the last piece, of course, is that it has the opportunity to engage authentically. We're like a done for you or like a custom thing for you. Like doesn't quite have that as much as because it's just a bunch of rote, static graphics that were done and can be used on anyone's social feeds, across any church, in any part of the world, or any part of the country.

00;02;19;23 - 00;02;37;24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And while the graphics look amazing and maybe even better than what you can pull together, it's not really you. And you don't have the opportunity to then reach through that and engage authentically with your people, which is one of the problems, in my opinion as well, of doing something that is like a done for you, which we'll get to in just a second.

00;02;37;26 - 00;03;02;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, the cons of like a custom social media feeds is it takes hours. And secondly, it also requires skill like you need typically a staff person who knows what they're doing. In my experience, a lot of pastors, a lot of church, ministry people, they don't have that skill or they don't have it yet. And so they don't hop in to learn that skill and therefore they just shy away from it.

00;03;02;17 - 00;03;27;06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which I get, like, we don't like to kind of put ourselves out there into new and sort of like uncharted territory. There is another thing out there that, let's just be honest, like, people feel this pressure to try and compete with every other big church in the country. Like, you can't be elevation and that's okay, right? It's not necessarily a bad thing that your church isn't the biggest, greatest, sleekest, best looking church.

00;03;27;06 - 00;03;50;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like it's okay that you're not. You can't be them. And, no one's expecting that of you. We just want you to be you. So let's move on then, and talk about the pros and the cons of done for you. Done for you is like ordering DoorDash, right? It's convenient, it's simple, it's easy. And best of all, there's no messy dishes to clean up.

00;03;50;11 - 00;04;09;10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You get all of the goodness and none of the work that has to go with it. So let's talk about the pros of done for you. First of all, and probably most obvious is that it saves you time. Like, you know, you're busy and this gives you a solution to your busyness to still remain active on social media.

00;04;09;13 - 00;04;42;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Secondly, you you look your feed looks more polished, like you have professional designers and professional graphic artists doing these done for you. Social packs. And so therefore you can lean into their expertise and you can just post their things. And then lastly, it helps you stay consistent because if you take over a fully custom social media strategy, you know that like eventually the week of VBS is going to hit, which is what I'm right in the middle of right now and I'm exhausted.

00;04;42;15 - 00;05;01;07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or you got summer camp, or you got a missions trip, and social media falls back to the back burner because you weren't able to stay consistent while you were on social media. So those are some of the pros of having done for you. It saves you time, it looks polished and it helps you stay consistent. But the cons what are some of the cons.

00;05;01;07 - 00;05;22;04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, it's going to feel cookie cutter right. Again, if they can do it for this church and your church, they can do it for a hundred other churches. The other thing is it definitely lacks your church's flavor like it's not your church on social media. It's some graphic designer in a lab who cooked it up hours away. And that's your on now on your church's social feed.

00;05;22;04 - 00;05;41;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like that's not really who you are. You're just borrowing something that someone made somewhere else. And then the last part is like, you gotta be honest. Like you might still have to tweak it a little bit. Like there might still be some things that don't exactly fit your church or your church's culture. And so therefore when you post it, captions whatever.

00;05;41;11 - 00;06;01;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you have to tweak some of it because it might not fit your exact vibe. What they gave you. And so there's still a little bit of work to do. So let's what's better? Like let's land it once and for all. Let's settle the debate done for you versus custom. What if I told you that you didn't have to choose?

00;06;01;24 - 00;06;27;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah that's right, because I actually made for churches and for youth pastors the summer seasonal social media pact for this exact reason. It helps you stay consistent. It creates a social media posting calendar. Half of the packs are done for you like they're ones that work. They're sleek, they're modern, they look the part and you can just download them and post them and go and not think anything of them.

00;06;27;21 - 00;06;47;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The other half of them are custom for you. So yes, a little bit more work, but I've tried to take the like all of the work that you're going to have to really do out of it. There are scripts. I just read the thing and do it direct into your camera. There are graphics just overlay the graphics. You look like a pro, but it's still you.

00;06;47;23 - 00;07;17;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's still your church. It's still your people on your church, social media feed. All of those things are all in that, like, custom for you. And then I have a posting calendar so you can follow that in an effort to stay consistent. And so that if you do that, you won't fall off the wagon when it becomes a busy week, when it becomes VBS week, when you go off to summer camp, your social media will still have something regularly being posted to it three times per week, which is what what I recommend.

00;07;17;23 - 00;07;39;01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you download this pack and post at that rhythm of three times per week, it will get you through the months of June, July and August. And I get it. You're watching this video, this podcast dropped in the middle of July. You can grab it now and cram all in, because coming up in just a couple of weeks is going to be our full social media pack.

00;07;39;01 - 00;08;01;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you didn't know this members to my Patreon who get a bonus weekly podcast already for $4 per month, they get this pack as a part of their membership tier. So join get the bonus podcast where we're talking all things hybrid ministry. We're talking all things creative youth ministry programing. You'll get that delivered to your podcast catcher every single Monday morning without fail.

00;08;01;21 - 00;08;23;06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And every single time we drop a seasonal social media pack, it is yours for free and is yours for the taking. I would love to have you check those things out. They are made for you and this is just to hopefully help make your life easier. It really is an entire summer social media hybrid strategy locked and loaded.

00;08;23;06 - 00;08;47;25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's what I do in my church every single week, and I just want to help you win in your youth ministry. So skip the burn up. Skip the Canva at 9 p.m. on every single Sunday night, heading on into your week, and grab the best of both worlds with the summer seasonal social media pack. It is linked down below and let your summer get scroll worthy.

00;08;47;25 - 00;08;51;12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 154: Summer Social Media Mistakes (And How Iโ€™m Avoiding Them) https://www.hybridministry.xyz/154 c88d08b1-4f71-4c78-97a7-4e57ba74b1f7 Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 154 Summer Social Media Mistakes (And How Iโ€™m Avoiding Them) full Nick Clason Hereโ€™s what usually tanks your social media engagement every summerโ€”and what Iโ€™m doing instead. Because posting a blurry pic of your youth group playing dodgeball again is not a strategy. Iโ€™ve made all the summer mistakesโ€”so you donโ€™t have to! 8:11 no Hereโ€™s what usually tanks your social media engagement every summerโ€”and what Iโ€™m doing instead. Because posting a blurry pic of your youth group playing dodgeball again is not a strategy. Iโ€™ve made all the summer mistakesโ€”so you donโ€™t have to! โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link *๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET IT FOR FREE! * https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/154 โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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In this video, we're going to look at some common social mistakes at youth pastors just like you and just like me tend to make as well as I offer a solution for each and every one of those mistakes. 00:00:22:26 - 00:00:48:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I've been in youth ministry for 15 years, and I have made all of these mistakes. And I want to help you avoid stepping in those pitfalls. So let's hop in to these common social media mistakes. And mistake number one that most youth pastors make in the summer is they go radio silent. 00:00:48:24 - 00:01:12:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry No, the video is not. Pause. I'm just showing you what your social feed might look like, because I know if you're anything like me, you get busy, you got VBS, you got camp, you got missions trips, you got events. One summer I did a kickball event, and I sprained my ankle in front of all of the kids, and I had to literally crawl my way back to the pavilion because I was so hurt. 00:01:12:07 - 00:01:29:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I was out doing ministry, and I thought to myself, I can't do social media like I'm these are the important things. This is social and this is this is real ministry, social media that can go on the back burner and you need to show up on social media. And here's why. Because our students are showing up on social media. 00:01:29:08 - 00:01:55:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we two in an effort to try and be where they are, we want to show up where they are. And guess what? You don't have to just pull away in your office and create a bunch of content quietly void of interaction with students. No, you can actually create content with students. And if you grab my summer social media pack, it's actually designed to be three posts per week, some of which are just plug and play like you're at the park playing kickball. 00:01:55:25 - 00:02:12:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're like, oh, I need to post something. Boom. You drop it when the kids get home, they see it. But there's also content that you can create and film with your students, and not just for your students, but since it's with your students, it also ends up being for your students. So mistake number one is go radio silent. 00:02:12:10 - 00:02:46:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The fixes. In my social media pack, I've baked in three posts per week at a minimum. And then if you are downloading anything else, say like you're a dying member and they give you the social pack monthly. You can filter those things in every other week, and you can actually show up every single day, not only with some custom, content, which is what I offer for you, where you or your students are the actual voices and faces on your social media, but you also then have some of this other kind of like done for you content, which will just still kind of give proof of life to everybody else on your social feed. 00:02:46:14 - 00:03:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's hop in here to mistake number two. So mistake number two is using static done for you posts. Now listen, I get it. I just actually said to do that. But I say do that in compliment to what I'm offering. But actually my my package here allows you to, to use like half done for you. You need these where you don't have to think about it. 00:03:10:22 - 00:03:37:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You forgot. Oh no I'm supposed to post. You pull it open, you post it, maybe you're on the toilet and you get it done. Okay. But other times I actually give you and carve out for you an opportunity to engage with your students, your leaders, for you and your students and your leaders to be the heroes on your social media packs and so like it allows you to to lean into those inside jokes and, and the the culture that exists within your student ministry. 00:03:37:07 - 00:03:56:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I do it all for you. I tell you exactly how to do it. I tell you exactly what to do. So link down below. Go grab it. Go check it out so that you don't just become a random, generic boring like no context for your ministry social media feed, but you actually become one that is, relevant. 00:03:56:00 - 00:04:18:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's popping and it's it's leaning into what's popular on social media now, which is short form, vertical based video. I'm gonna help you, film some stuff. Reels, TikToks, YouTube shorts, whatever works in your context. But you can use it in your context. You can use what I've created, but then you and your student ministry can actually be the heroes in these, on your feed. 00:04:18:22 - 00:04:37:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which leads me to mistake number three. Not thinking ahead like, you know, you got camp, you know, you got VBS, you know, you got that mission trip. What are you going to post? You don't have a plan? Then that's what causes you to do. Mistake number one, which is go radio silent or you just part of my French fart. 00:04:37:07 - 00:05:01:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Something out. That's no good, because you're like, I ran out of time. I just got to do something. My pack will help you think ahead. I literally scripted it out. June and then July and then August. Away is mid-June already. No problem. Bump it down. July, August, September. Some of them, like emoji phrases like those are summer guess, themed. 00:05:01:12 - 00:05:20:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like a lot of the other stuff, like it does not tied directly to a season. Grab it and then hey, guess what? Best news of all coming in the fall. I'm going to be offering a fall social media pack. The same archetypes, the same concepts, but fall themed and fall, base and fall topics for you to lean in. 00:05:20:08 - 00:05:41:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I will help you plan ahead on social media so that you can spend time on the parts of ministry that mean and matter the most to you and your group. Which leads me to my fourth and final mistake that youth pastors tend to make and is forgetting the hybrid strategy we think it's all about in person, and we're all we're fully present. 00:05:41:03 - 00:06:00:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And by the way, you should be fully present. You definitely don't want to get fired, but you also want to show up digitally. You want to show where students are spending most of their time. You know, Pew Research did a study that said 90% of teenagers spend time, meaningful time on YouTube. Why are we not there? Why are we not there? 00:06:00:10 - 00:06:27:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Showing up as youth pastors, as student ministries, answering some of life's hard questions, and I will show you how to do all of that, not only in the summer pack, but hey, guess what? Maybe you don't want to spend any money. Grab my hybrid strategy. God, it is completely free. And it's also linked down below for your convenience, all you gotta do is pop in your name and your email and, hey, maybe, you know, if you want to give some sort of payment to this podcast, a subscribe would be fantastic. 00:06:27:02 - 00:06:44:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It literally costs you nothing, but it does actually help us out quite a bit. Listen, I know this all feels like a big sales pitch, but the fact of the matter is that the key to social media is consistency. And that's what my pack is going to help you do. Maybe by the end of it you don't need me to be consistent on social media. 00:06:44:18 - 00:07:02:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's great. That's the goal. I want you to graduate from this. Maybe you're the type of person that's never going to really lean in hard on social media. That's fine too. Keep coming back. These packs are going to continue to recycle with new content every single season, which is going to be three months worth for you to be able to take and make your own. 00:07:02:22 - 00:07:23:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I want you to win because I want you to take these packs and make your social media come to life with your smiling faces and your students. So like I said, link down below, grab it. And guess what? If you are, interested in this, the best deal, the best value. Honestly, take my money is to become a member. 00:07:23:06 - 00:07:43:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry $4 per month. You get this pack at the, the Hybrid Heroes tier, completely included, as well as a weekly bonus podcast. You know, we just got back from summer camp. I've been talking to my students and talking to all my hybrid. Here's about everything we did at camp. All of the creative elements that we woven to what we're doing. 00:07:43:26 - 00:08:03:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you get that completely for free drops every single Monday. What we're doing in our context, what we're doing in our ministry, a real youth pastor with real boots on the ground experience, helping you lean into the creativity and the hybrid ministry that students so crave. I want to help you, win on social media and win in creativity in your student ministry. 00:08:03:10 - 00:08:09:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Check out the pack or become a member so good that you're here. Don't forget, my friends, as always, to stay hybrid. hybrid ministry, nick clason, youth ministry social media, summer youth ministry, church social media strategy, done for you social media, seasonal content, youth group ideas, church content strategy, youth pastor help, church instagram tips, easy social media, summer ministry ideas, student ministry content, social media for youth pastors, church reels, church tiktok, youth ministry tips, church marketing, youth group engagement, summer ministry mistakes Hereโ€™s what usually tanks your social media engagement every summerโ€”and what Iโ€™m doing instead. Because posting a blurry pic of your youth group playing dodgeball again is not a strategy.
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 What is your Social Media Strategy?
00:25 Mistake #1
02:49 Mistake #2
04:18 Mistake #3
05:30 Mistake #4
06:32 The Summer Social Media Pack

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:09 - 00:00:22:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Here's what's probably tanking your engagement on social media this summer, and here's what I'm doing to try and combat that, because posting a blurry dodgeball pic is not really a strategy on social media. In this video, we're going to look at some common social mistakes at youth pastors just like you and just like me tend to make as well as I offer a solution for each and every one of those mistakes.

00:00:22:26 - 00:00:48:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I've been in youth ministry for 15 years, and I have made all of these mistakes. And I want to help you avoid stepping in those pitfalls. So let's hop in to these common social media mistakes. And mistake number one that most youth pastors make in the summer is they go radio silent.

00:00:48:24 - 00:01:12:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
No, the video is not. Pause. I'm just showing you what your social feed might look like, because I know if you're anything like me, you get busy, you got VBS, you got camp, you got missions trips, you got events. One summer I did a kickball event, and I sprained my ankle in front of all of the kids, and I had to literally crawl my way back to the pavilion because I was so hurt.

00:01:12:07 - 00:01:29:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I was out doing ministry, and I thought to myself, I can't do social media like I'm these are the important things. This is social and this is this is real ministry, social media that can go on the back burner and you need to show up on social media. And here's why. Because our students are showing up on social media.

00:01:29:08 - 00:01:55:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we two in an effort to try and be where they are, we want to show up where they are. And guess what? You don't have to just pull away in your office and create a bunch of content quietly void of interaction with students. No, you can actually create content with students. And if you grab my summer social media pack, it's actually designed to be three posts per week, some of which are just plug and play like you're at the park playing kickball.

00:01:55:25 - 00:02:12:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're like, oh, I need to post something. Boom. You drop it when the kids get home, they see it. But there's also content that you can create and film with your students, and not just for your students, but since it's with your students, it also ends up being for your students. So mistake number one is go radio silent.

00:02:12:10 - 00:02:46:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The fixes. In my social media pack, I've baked in three posts per week at a minimum. And then if you are downloading anything else, say like you're a dying member and they give you the social pack monthly. You can filter those things in every other week, and you can actually show up every single day, not only with some custom, content, which is what I offer for you, where you or your students are the actual voices and faces on your social media, but you also then have some of this other kind of like done for you content, which will just still kind of give proof of life to everybody else on your social feed.

00:02:46:14 - 00:03:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's hop in here to mistake number two. So mistake number two is using static done for you posts. Now listen, I get it. I just actually said to do that. But I say do that in compliment to what I'm offering. But actually my my package here allows you to, to use like half done for you. You need these where you don't have to think about it.

00:03:10:22 - 00:03:37:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You forgot. Oh no I'm supposed to post. You pull it open, you post it, maybe you're on the toilet and you get it done. Okay. But other times I actually give you and carve out for you an opportunity to engage with your students, your leaders, for you and your students and your leaders to be the heroes on your social media packs and so like it allows you to to lean into those inside jokes and, and the the culture that exists within your student ministry.

00:03:37:07 - 00:03:56:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I do it all for you. I tell you exactly how to do it. I tell you exactly what to do. So link down below. Go grab it. Go check it out so that you don't just become a random, generic boring like no context for your ministry social media feed, but you actually become one that is, relevant.

00:03:56:00 - 00:04:18:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's popping and it's it's leaning into what's popular on social media now, which is short form, vertical based video. I'm gonna help you, film some stuff. Reels, TikToks, YouTube shorts, whatever works in your context. But you can use it in your context. You can use what I've created, but then you and your student ministry can actually be the heroes in these, on your feed.

00:04:18:22 - 00:04:37:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which leads me to mistake number three. Not thinking ahead like, you know, you got camp, you know, you got VBS, you know, you got that mission trip. What are you going to post? You don't have a plan? Then that's what causes you to do. Mistake number one, which is go radio silent or you just part of my French fart.

00:04:37:07 - 00:05:01:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Something out. That's no good, because you're like, I ran out of time. I just got to do something. My pack will help you think ahead. I literally scripted it out. June and then July and then August. Away is mid-June already. No problem. Bump it down. July, August, September. Some of them, like emoji phrases like those are summer guess, themed.

00:05:01:12 - 00:05:20:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like a lot of the other stuff, like it does not tied directly to a season. Grab it and then hey, guess what? Best news of all coming in the fall. I'm going to be offering a fall social media pack. The same archetypes, the same concepts, but fall themed and fall, base and fall topics for you to lean in.

00:05:20:08 - 00:05:41:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I will help you plan ahead on social media so that you can spend time on the parts of ministry that mean and matter the most to you and your group. Which leads me to my fourth and final mistake that youth pastors tend to make and is forgetting the hybrid strategy we think it's all about in person, and we're all we're fully present.

00:05:41:03 - 00:06:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And by the way, you should be fully present. You definitely don't want to get fired, but you also want to show up digitally. You want to show where students are spending most of their time. You know, Pew Research did a study that said 90% of teenagers spend time, meaningful time on YouTube. Why are we not there? Why are we not there?

00:06:00:10 - 00:06:27:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Showing up as youth pastors, as student ministries, answering some of life's hard questions, and I will show you how to do all of that, not only in the summer pack, but hey, guess what? Maybe you don't want to spend any money. Grab my hybrid strategy. God, it is completely free. And it's also linked down below for your convenience, all you gotta do is pop in your name and your email and, hey, maybe, you know, if you want to give some sort of payment to this podcast, a subscribe would be fantastic.

00:06:27:02 - 00:06:44:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It literally costs you nothing, but it does actually help us out quite a bit. Listen, I know this all feels like a big sales pitch, but the fact of the matter is that the key to social media is consistency. And that's what my pack is going to help you do. Maybe by the end of it you don't need me to be consistent on social media.

00:06:44:18 - 00:07:02:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's great. That's the goal. I want you to graduate from this. Maybe you're the type of person that's never going to really lean in hard on social media. That's fine too. Keep coming back. These packs are going to continue to recycle with new content every single season, which is going to be three months worth for you to be able to take and make your own.

00:07:02:22 - 00:07:23:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want you to win because I want you to take these packs and make your social media come to life with your smiling faces and your students. So like I said, link down below, grab it. And guess what? If you are, interested in this, the best deal, the best value. Honestly, take my money is to become a member.

00:07:23:06 - 00:07:43:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
$4 per month. You get this pack at the, the Hybrid Heroes tier, completely included, as well as a weekly bonus podcast. You know, we just got back from summer camp. I've been talking to my students and talking to all my hybrid. Here's about everything we did at camp. All of the creative elements that we woven to what we're doing.

00:07:43:26 - 00:08:03:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you get that completely for free drops every single Monday. What we're doing in our context, what we're doing in our ministry, a real youth pastor with real boots on the ground experience, helping you lean into the creativity and the hybrid ministry that students so crave. I want to help you, win on social media and win in creativity in your student ministry.

00:08:03:10 - 00:08:09:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Check out the pack or become a member so good that you're here. Don't forget, my friends, as always, to stay hybrid.

]]> Hereโ€™s what usually tanks your social media engagement every summerโ€”and what Iโ€™m doing instead. Because posting a blurry pic of your youth group playing dodgeball again is not a strategy.
Iโ€™ve made all the summer mistakesโ€”so you donโ€™t have to!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 What is your Social Media Strategy?
00:25 Mistake #1
02:49 Mistake #2
04:18 Mistake #3
05:30 Mistake #4
06:32 The Summer Social Media Pack

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:09 - 00:00:22:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Here's what's probably tanking your engagement on social media this summer, and here's what I'm doing to try and combat that, because posting a blurry dodgeball pic is not really a strategy on social media. In this video, we're going to look at some common social mistakes at youth pastors just like you and just like me tend to make as well as I offer a solution for each and every one of those mistakes.

00:00:22:26 - 00:00:48:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I've been in youth ministry for 15 years, and I have made all of these mistakes. And I want to help you avoid stepping in those pitfalls. So let's hop in to these common social media mistakes. And mistake number one that most youth pastors make in the summer is they go radio silent.

00:00:48:24 - 00:01:12:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
No, the video is not. Pause. I'm just showing you what your social feed might look like, because I know if you're anything like me, you get busy, you got VBS, you got camp, you got missions trips, you got events. One summer I did a kickball event, and I sprained my ankle in front of all of the kids, and I had to literally crawl my way back to the pavilion because I was so hurt.

00:01:12:07 - 00:01:29:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I was out doing ministry, and I thought to myself, I can't do social media like I'm these are the important things. This is social and this is this is real ministry, social media that can go on the back burner and you need to show up on social media. And here's why. Because our students are showing up on social media.

00:01:29:08 - 00:01:55:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we two in an effort to try and be where they are, we want to show up where they are. And guess what? You don't have to just pull away in your office and create a bunch of content quietly void of interaction with students. No, you can actually create content with students. And if you grab my summer social media pack, it's actually designed to be three posts per week, some of which are just plug and play like you're at the park playing kickball.

00:01:55:25 - 00:02:12:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're like, oh, I need to post something. Boom. You drop it when the kids get home, they see it. But there's also content that you can create and film with your students, and not just for your students, but since it's with your students, it also ends up being for your students. So mistake number one is go radio silent.

00:02:12:10 - 00:02:46:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The fixes. In my social media pack, I've baked in three posts per week at a minimum. And then if you are downloading anything else, say like you're a dying member and they give you the social pack monthly. You can filter those things in every other week, and you can actually show up every single day, not only with some custom, content, which is what I offer for you, where you or your students are the actual voices and faces on your social media, but you also then have some of this other kind of like done for you content, which will just still kind of give proof of life to everybody else on your social feed.

00:02:46:14 - 00:03:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's hop in here to mistake number two. So mistake number two is using static done for you posts. Now listen, I get it. I just actually said to do that. But I say do that in compliment to what I'm offering. But actually my my package here allows you to, to use like half done for you. You need these where you don't have to think about it.

00:03:10:22 - 00:03:37:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You forgot. Oh no I'm supposed to post. You pull it open, you post it, maybe you're on the toilet and you get it done. Okay. But other times I actually give you and carve out for you an opportunity to engage with your students, your leaders, for you and your students and your leaders to be the heroes on your social media packs and so like it allows you to to lean into those inside jokes and, and the the culture that exists within your student ministry.

00:03:37:07 - 00:03:56:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I do it all for you. I tell you exactly how to do it. I tell you exactly what to do. So link down below. Go grab it. Go check it out so that you don't just become a random, generic boring like no context for your ministry social media feed, but you actually become one that is, relevant.

00:03:56:00 - 00:04:18:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's popping and it's it's leaning into what's popular on social media now, which is short form, vertical based video. I'm gonna help you, film some stuff. Reels, TikToks, YouTube shorts, whatever works in your context. But you can use it in your context. You can use what I've created, but then you and your student ministry can actually be the heroes in these, on your feed.

00:04:18:22 - 00:04:37:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which leads me to mistake number three. Not thinking ahead like, you know, you got camp, you know, you got VBS, you know, you got that mission trip. What are you going to post? You don't have a plan? Then that's what causes you to do. Mistake number one, which is go radio silent or you just part of my French fart.

00:04:37:07 - 00:05:01:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Something out. That's no good, because you're like, I ran out of time. I just got to do something. My pack will help you think ahead. I literally scripted it out. June and then July and then August. Away is mid-June already. No problem. Bump it down. July, August, September. Some of them, like emoji phrases like those are summer guess, themed.

00:05:01:12 - 00:05:20:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like a lot of the other stuff, like it does not tied directly to a season. Grab it and then hey, guess what? Best news of all coming in the fall. I'm going to be offering a fall social media pack. The same archetypes, the same concepts, but fall themed and fall, base and fall topics for you to lean in.

00:05:20:08 - 00:05:41:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I will help you plan ahead on social media so that you can spend time on the parts of ministry that mean and matter the most to you and your group. Which leads me to my fourth and final mistake that youth pastors tend to make and is forgetting the hybrid strategy we think it's all about in person, and we're all we're fully present.

00:05:41:03 - 00:06:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And by the way, you should be fully present. You definitely don't want to get fired, but you also want to show up digitally. You want to show where students are spending most of their time. You know, Pew Research did a study that said 90% of teenagers spend time, meaningful time on YouTube. Why are we not there? Why are we not there?

00:06:00:10 - 00:06:27:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Showing up as youth pastors, as student ministries, answering some of life's hard questions, and I will show you how to do all of that, not only in the summer pack, but hey, guess what? Maybe you don't want to spend any money. Grab my hybrid strategy. God, it is completely free. And it's also linked down below for your convenience, all you gotta do is pop in your name and your email and, hey, maybe, you know, if you want to give some sort of payment to this podcast, a subscribe would be fantastic.

00:06:27:02 - 00:06:44:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It literally costs you nothing, but it does actually help us out quite a bit. Listen, I know this all feels like a big sales pitch, but the fact of the matter is that the key to social media is consistency. And that's what my pack is going to help you do. Maybe by the end of it you don't need me to be consistent on social media.

00:06:44:18 - 00:07:02:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's great. That's the goal. I want you to graduate from this. Maybe you're the type of person that's never going to really lean in hard on social media. That's fine too. Keep coming back. These packs are going to continue to recycle with new content every single season, which is going to be three months worth for you to be able to take and make your own.

00:07:02:22 - 00:07:23:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I want you to win because I want you to take these packs and make your social media come to life with your smiling faces and your students. So like I said, link down below, grab it. And guess what? If you are, interested in this, the best deal, the best value. Honestly, take my money is to become a member.

00:07:23:06 - 00:07:43:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
$4 per month. You get this pack at the, the Hybrid Heroes tier, completely included, as well as a weekly bonus podcast. You know, we just got back from summer camp. I've been talking to my students and talking to all my hybrid. Here's about everything we did at camp. All of the creative elements that we woven to what we're doing.

00:07:43:26 - 00:08:03:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you get that completely for free drops every single Monday. What we're doing in our context, what we're doing in our ministry, a real youth pastor with real boots on the ground experience, helping you lean into the creativity and the hybrid ministry that students so crave. I want to help you, win on social media and win in creativity in your student ministry.

00:08:03:10 - 00:08:09:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Check out the pack or become a member so good that you're here. Don't forget, my friends, as always, to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 152: This Social Media Post is dead in 2025 - What to do instead https://www.hybridministry.xyz/152 e5d3a56c-3508-41dc-a098-7b2cbeb4fdb7 Thu, 05 Jun 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 152 This Social Media Post is dead in 2025 - What to do instead full Nick Clason The โ€œdone-for-youโ€ social media strategy is dead in 2025โ€”and it might be quietly hurting your ministry. HubSpotโ€™s latest report says real impact comes from micro-connections over time, not cookie-cutter content. If you want to win on social this summer without burning out, show up with authenticity, stay consistent, and use tools that amplify your voiceโ€”not replace it. 8:44 no The โ€œdone-for-youโ€ social media strategy is dead in 2025โ€”and it might be quietly hurting your ministry. HubSpotโ€™s latest report says real impact comes from micro-connections over time, not cookie-cutter content. If you want to win on social this summer without burning out, show up with authenticity, stay consistent, and use tools that amplify your voiceโ€”not replace it. โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link *๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET IT FOR FREE! * https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry SHOW NOTES Shownotes & Transcripts https://www.hybridministry.xyz/152 //HubSpot x Masters in Marketing - 2025 Global Social Media Trends Report https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/hubspot-blog-social-media-marketing-report โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Tomatoes & Youth Ministry? 00:46 Social Fluency & Micro-Connections 01:50 Social Fluency Real Time Example 02:14 Do All "Done For You" Products Suck? 03:06 Social Media for Busy Youth Pastors in 2025 05:27 Your Custom Summer Social Media Plan 07:00 Micro Connections - Consistency over Perfection 07:58 Social Media without the Burnout -------------- TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:10 - 00:00:24:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Buying a tomato is now an existential crisis. I was reading the recent Global Social Media Trends report put out by HubSpot. Link to that down below in the show notes if you're interested. What does that have to do with you and your youth ministry? It actually has a lot to do with you in your youth ministry, because today we're going to talk about social fluency. 00:00:24:25 - 00:00:50:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What is it? Why does it matter now more than ever, and how churches who are ignoring this are being left behind? Plus, I'm going to show you how you can win at that social media fluency through social media this summer. Even when you're slammed with VBS camps and mission trips. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry. Why is buying a tomato an existential crisis? 00:00:50:01 - 00:01:14:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because there are so many decisions to make. It used to be easy. You wanted a tomato. You walk to the grocery store, you bought the tomato. Now there are so many options. Amy Marino from HubSpot nailed it. She says social fluency is what drives results. This isn't about having the slickest reals or trendiest memes. It's about mastering a thing called micro Connections. 00:01:14:07 - 00:01:35:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're going to dive into that a little bit later, but HubSpot says that every buyer's journey is made up of small connections over time. And I get it. You're thinking like, well, I'm not selling anything. And in a way, absolutely you are not. But in a way, absolutely you are. That does apply directly to you, your church and your ministry. 00:01:35:11 - 00:02:02:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so students and parents aren't checking your Instagram once and then deciding whether or not they're coming to your church or not. It's made up. This social fluency thing is made up of touch points and consistency and relevance. Okay, like for example, let's break this down. A parent sees your Bible verse post on your Instagram. Then later on that week they see your Wednesday night youth ministry recap and then a post from their kid. 00:02:02:18 - 00:02:32:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You see, that's trust built one scroll, one block at a time. That's what social fluency is. And so whether you're in the market for a tomato or a youth ministry, here's the kicker. These church ministry platforms and products that are, branded as done for you, they suck. Is that harsh? Well, maybe, but here's why. And I'm going to be honest with you, because I believe that it removes you, the youth pastor, from the equation. 00:02:32:26 - 00:02:58:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You are the connection. You are the relationship. And so when every single post looks the same, when every single post looks generic, when every post is downloaded in such a way that any youth ministry in the country in the world can use that product. It doesn't pack the punch that you want it to do. It doesn't build social fluency and you miss the nuances of your community. 00:02:58:22 - 00:03:21:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, I talked about it several episodes ago. I said, stop posting video announcements if you're here on YouTube, it's linked up at the top of the screen. But social is no longer about those slick ads. It's about being present and authentic, and it's about being human. But wait, you're busy. You have VBS this week. You have summer camp the week after that, and then you're taking a mission trip in the middle of the summer. 00:03:21:08 - 00:03:47:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I get it. Trust me, I'm a 15 year youth ministry veteran. Also trying to lean in to social media and hybrid ministry. In addition to that, on the weekly basis, you're leading games, you're preaching, you're planning summer trips. That is why I have built for you and for all youth ministries this summer. Social media kit. It is a 50% done for you like I was talking about, but it also has custom for you. 00:03:47:21 - 00:04:16:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So in the done for you category I have Bible verse reels. I have emoji phrase guesses, I have spiritual practice videos and I have what to do when you're facing blank carousel Bible based posts. I also have a full posting strategy that I recommend, and if you don't want to follow mine, then you can build your own. But then beyond that, then this is where I really believe it is the next level sort of pack because it's 50% custom done for you. 00:04:16:20 - 00:04:35:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I have devotionals where I'm telling you what to do, how to how to recap your most recent sermon. But if you don't have any ideas, I just give you a devotional script, read it, memorize it, go direct to camera and you are off to the races. I have interview style man on the street style questions with included graphics. 00:04:35:25 - 00:04:54:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So all you have to do is capture, put together and then overlay with the graphics that I have provided. I have transition hook style videos and I've included the first half of the videos. I've found them for you. All you have to do is shoot yourself, your leaders, your students, your pastor, whoever at the end of the video and invite someone to youth or to whatever event. 00:04:54:05 - 00:05:19:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then finally I have Bible trivia where I have included the graphics as well as the questions for you. So again, this is all very much the grunt work is handled the templates, the graphics, the prompts, and you can quickly swap yourself in to become the hero on your social media, to build that social fluency so that it'll be your voice, that it will be your photos, and that it'll be your vibe. 00:05:19:23 - 00:05:48:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You and your students and your leaders are still what is present on your social media content. Hey, youth pastors, church communications people, would you like to have your social media dialed in for the next 90 days? Especially with summer on the horizon? Listen, that's exactly what you're going to get with the summer and seasonal social media pack. It's a new product that I'm rolling exclusively on my Patreon. 00:05:48:16 - 00:06:09:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's three months of custom strategic content for less than $20, and this is built specifically for busy youth pastors like you who want to stay active on TikTok and Instagram Reels and YouTube without spending ten plus hours a month figuring out what to post. So here's what you're going to get. You're going to get 50% of the content completely done. 00:06:09:04 - 00:06:37:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's turnkey plug and play, post it and go. The other 50% is custom content for you to still shoot. However, I'm going to provide scripts and templates and frameworks so that your face, your students and your volunteers are who are seen on your social media feeds. This is not just pretty graphics. This is a full blown social media strategy for the next three months, designed by someone who knows both youth ministry and digital ministry. 00:06:37:20 - 00:07:01:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're tired of scrambling for the cost of less than a pizza and frankly, more nourishing than a pizza, grab the seasonal social media pack today. Oh, and I almost forgot. Patreon members get it for free. You know this HubSpot, trends article? There's a quote that says A buyer's purchasing experience is made up of small connections over time. 00:07:01:24 - 00:07:23:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And quite frankly, that's the same thing that is true with students. A student's discipleship journey is built on these things called micro connections. And so in person that's youth group. That's high five, that's fist bumps, that's showing up at their football games. But we now have the advantage in a hybrid world to lean into the digital side of those relationships as well. 00:07:24:05 - 00:08:01:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Social posts, DMs, reels, stories. They're all digital handshakes. And so I encourage youth pastors to show up consistently, not perfectly, but just regularly and show up. And the way that you show up is by putting your voice, your face, and your ministry out there. And that is a way to build that social fluency. But with the summer social media pack, you're also not going to be burning out while you're still making those digital and in-person micro connections, because I've done it all for you. 00:08:01:07 - 00:08:25:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The fact of the matter is, social media in 2025, it's not optional. It's spiritual hospitality. And the thing is, the churches who get this social fluency, they will reach more people. They will reach more deeply. So do you want to crush it this summer without cloning somebody else's completely done for you scripted strategies and grab down below link in the description. 00:08:25:29 - 00:08:35:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The Summer kit, and you can take your social media to the next level. Well, don't forget my friends and as always to stay hybrid. YouthMinistry, Hybrid Ministry, Social Media For Churches, HubSpot, Church Marketing, Church Communications, Summer Youth Ministry, Social Fluency, Digital Ministry, Youth Pastor Tools, Discipleship, Done For You Content, Customizable Content, Christian Leadership, Next Gen Ministry, Content Strategy, Ministry Trends, Nick Clason The โ€œdone-for-youโ€ social media strategy is dead in 2025โ€”and it might be quietly hurting your ministry. HubSpotโ€™s latest report says real impact comes from micro-connections over time, not cookie-cutter content. If you want to win on social this summer without burning out, show up with authenticity, stay consistent, and use tools that amplify your voiceโ€”not replace it.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Tomatoes & Youth Ministry?
00:46 Social Fluency & Micro-Connections
01:50 Social Fluency Real Time Example
02:14 Do All "Done For You" Products Suck?
03:06 Social Media for Busy Youth Pastors in 2025
05:27 Your Custom Summer Social Media Plan
07:00 Micro Connections - Consistency over Perfection
07:58 Social Media without the Burnout

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TRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:10 - 00:00:24:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Buying a tomato is now an existential crisis. I was reading the recent Global Social Media Trends report put out by HubSpot. Link to that down below in the show notes if you're interested. What does that have to do with you and your youth ministry? It actually has a lot to do with you in your youth ministry, because today we're going to talk about social fluency.

00:00:24:25 - 00:00:50:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is it? Why does it matter now more than ever, and how churches who are ignoring this are being left behind? Plus, I'm going to show you how you can win at that social media fluency through social media this summer. Even when you're slammed with VBS camps and mission trips. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry. Why is buying a tomato an existential crisis?

00:00:50:01 - 00:01:14:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because there are so many decisions to make. It used to be easy. You wanted a tomato. You walk to the grocery store, you bought the tomato. Now there are so many options. Amy Marino from HubSpot nailed it. She says social fluency is what drives results. This isn't about having the slickest reals or trendiest memes. It's about mastering a thing called micro Connections.

00:01:14:07 - 00:01:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to dive into that a little bit later, but HubSpot says that every buyer's journey is made up of small connections over time. And I get it. You're thinking like, well, I'm not selling anything. And in a way, absolutely you are not. But in a way, absolutely you are. That does apply directly to you, your church and your ministry.

00:01:35:11 - 00:02:02:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so students and parents aren't checking your Instagram once and then deciding whether or not they're coming to your church or not. It's made up. This social fluency thing is made up of touch points and consistency and relevance. Okay, like for example, let's break this down. A parent sees your Bible verse post on your Instagram. Then later on that week they see your Wednesday night youth ministry recap and then a post from their kid.

00:02:02:18 - 00:02:32:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You see, that's trust built one scroll, one block at a time. That's what social fluency is. And so whether you're in the market for a tomato or a youth ministry, here's the kicker. These church ministry platforms and products that are, branded as done for you, they suck. Is that harsh? Well, maybe, but here's why. And I'm going to be honest with you, because I believe that it removes you, the youth pastor, from the equation.

00:02:32:26 - 00:02:58:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You are the connection. You are the relationship. And so when every single post looks the same, when every single post looks generic, when every post is downloaded in such a way that any youth ministry in the country in the world can use that product. It doesn't pack the punch that you want it to do. It doesn't build social fluency and you miss the nuances of your community.

00:02:58:22 - 00:03:21:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, I talked about it several episodes ago. I said, stop posting video announcements if you're here on YouTube, it's linked up at the top of the screen. But social is no longer about those slick ads. It's about being present and authentic, and it's about being human. But wait, you're busy. You have VBS this week. You have summer camp the week after that, and then you're taking a mission trip in the middle of the summer.

00:03:21:08 - 00:03:47:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I get it. Trust me, I'm a 15 year youth ministry veteran. Also trying to lean in to social media and hybrid ministry. In addition to that, on the weekly basis, you're leading games, you're preaching, you're planning summer trips. That is why I have built for you and for all youth ministries this summer. Social media kit. It is a 50% done for you like I was talking about, but it also has custom for you.

00:03:47:21 - 00:04:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So in the done for you category I have Bible verse reels. I have emoji phrase guesses, I have spiritual practice videos and I have what to do when you're facing blank carousel Bible based posts. I also have a full posting strategy that I recommend, and if you don't want to follow mine, then you can build your own. But then beyond that, then this is where I really believe it is the next level sort of pack because it's 50% custom done for you.

00:04:16:20 - 00:04:35:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I have devotionals where I'm telling you what to do, how to how to recap your most recent sermon. But if you don't have any ideas, I just give you a devotional script, read it, memorize it, go direct to camera and you are off to the races. I have interview style man on the street style questions with included graphics.

00:04:35:25 - 00:04:54:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So all you have to do is capture, put together and then overlay with the graphics that I have provided. I have transition hook style videos and I've included the first half of the videos. I've found them for you. All you have to do is shoot yourself, your leaders, your students, your pastor, whoever at the end of the video and invite someone to youth or to whatever event.

00:04:54:05 - 00:05:19:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally I have Bible trivia where I have included the graphics as well as the questions for you. So again, this is all very much the grunt work is handled the templates, the graphics, the prompts, and you can quickly swap yourself in to become the hero on your social media, to build that social fluency so that it'll be your voice, that it will be your photos, and that it'll be your vibe.

00:05:19:23 - 00:05:48:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You and your students and your leaders are still what is present on your social media content. Hey, youth pastors, church communications people, would you like to have your social media dialed in for the next 90 days? Especially with summer on the horizon? Listen, that's exactly what you're going to get with the summer and seasonal social media pack. It's a new product that I'm rolling exclusively on my Patreon.

00:05:48:16 - 00:06:09:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's three months of custom strategic content for less than $20, and this is built specifically for busy youth pastors like you who want to stay active on TikTok and Instagram Reels and YouTube without spending ten plus hours a month figuring out what to post. So here's what you're going to get. You're going to get 50% of the content completely done.

00:06:09:04 - 00:06:37:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's turnkey plug and play, post it and go. The other 50% is custom content for you to still shoot. However, I'm going to provide scripts and templates and frameworks so that your face, your students and your volunteers are who are seen on your social media feeds. This is not just pretty graphics. This is a full blown social media strategy for the next three months, designed by someone who knows both youth ministry and digital ministry.

00:06:37:20 - 00:07:01:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're tired of scrambling for the cost of less than a pizza and frankly, more nourishing than a pizza, grab the seasonal social media pack today. Oh, and I almost forgot. Patreon members get it for free. You know this HubSpot, trends article? There's a quote that says A buyer's purchasing experience is made up of small connections over time.

00:07:01:24 - 00:07:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And quite frankly, that's the same thing that is true with students. A student's discipleship journey is built on these things called micro connections. And so in person that's youth group. That's high five, that's fist bumps, that's showing up at their football games. But we now have the advantage in a hybrid world to lean into the digital side of those relationships as well.

00:07:24:05 - 00:08:01:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Social posts, DMs, reels, stories. They're all digital handshakes. And so I encourage youth pastors to show up consistently, not perfectly, but just regularly and show up. And the way that you show up is by putting your voice, your face, and your ministry out there. And that is a way to build that social fluency. But with the summer social media pack, you're also not going to be burning out while you're still making those digital and in-person micro connections, because I've done it all for you.

00:08:01:07 - 00:08:25:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The fact of the matter is, social media in 2025, it's not optional. It's spiritual hospitality. And the thing is, the churches who get this social fluency, they will reach more people. They will reach more deeply. So do you want to crush it this summer without cloning somebody else's completely done for you scripted strategies and grab down below link in the description.

00:08:25:29 - 00:08:35:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The Summer kit, and you can take your social media to the next level. Well, don't forget my friends and as always to stay hybrid.

]]> The โ€œdone-for-youโ€ social media strategy is dead in 2025โ€”and it might be quietly hurting your ministry. HubSpotโ€™s latest report says real impact comes from micro-connections over time, not cookie-cutter content. If you want to win on social this summer without burning out, show up with authenticity, stay consistent, and use tools that amplify your voiceโ€”not replace it.

โ˜€๏ธ SUMMER SOCIAL MEDIA PACK
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/summer-seasonal-social-media-1540452?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=productshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

*๐Ÿฆธ HYBRID HEROS GET IT FOR FREE! *
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry

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https://www.hybridministry.xyz/152

//HubSpot x Masters in Marketing - 2025 Global Social Media Trends Report
https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/hubspot-blog-social-media-marketing-report

โœ… CHURCH COMMS DONE FOR YOU
Hire me to run your church website, social media or communications!
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms

๐Ÿ“Š [FREE] HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE
https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book

๐Ÿ“‹ "PICK NICK'S BRAIN" Coaching Call
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching

๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry
Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz

--------------
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We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context!
The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe!
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--------------
๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU!
Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products
VIDIQ
https://vidiq.com/hybrid

BEST DYM RESOURCES
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym

OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS
https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361

//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit

--------------
๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Tomatoes & Youth Ministry?
00:46 Social Fluency & Micro-Connections
01:50 Social Fluency Real Time Example
02:14 Do All "Done For You" Products Suck?
03:06 Social Media for Busy Youth Pastors in 2025
05:27 Your Custom Summer Social Media Plan
07:00 Micro Connections - Consistency over Perfection
07:58 Social Media without the Burnout

--------------
TRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:10 - 00:00:24:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Buying a tomato is now an existential crisis. I was reading the recent Global Social Media Trends report put out by HubSpot. Link to that down below in the show notes if you're interested. What does that have to do with you and your youth ministry? It actually has a lot to do with you in your youth ministry, because today we're going to talk about social fluency.

00:00:24:25 - 00:00:50:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is it? Why does it matter now more than ever, and how churches who are ignoring this are being left behind? Plus, I'm going to show you how you can win at that social media fluency through social media this summer. Even when you're slammed with VBS camps and mission trips. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry. Why is buying a tomato an existential crisis?

00:00:50:01 - 00:01:14:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because there are so many decisions to make. It used to be easy. You wanted a tomato. You walk to the grocery store, you bought the tomato. Now there are so many options. Amy Marino from HubSpot nailed it. She says social fluency is what drives results. This isn't about having the slickest reals or trendiest memes. It's about mastering a thing called micro Connections.

00:01:14:07 - 00:01:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to dive into that a little bit later, but HubSpot says that every buyer's journey is made up of small connections over time. And I get it. You're thinking like, well, I'm not selling anything. And in a way, absolutely you are not. But in a way, absolutely you are. That does apply directly to you, your church and your ministry.

00:01:35:11 - 00:02:02:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so students and parents aren't checking your Instagram once and then deciding whether or not they're coming to your church or not. It's made up. This social fluency thing is made up of touch points and consistency and relevance. Okay, like for example, let's break this down. A parent sees your Bible verse post on your Instagram. Then later on that week they see your Wednesday night youth ministry recap and then a post from their kid.

00:02:02:18 - 00:02:32:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You see, that's trust built one scroll, one block at a time. That's what social fluency is. And so whether you're in the market for a tomato or a youth ministry, here's the kicker. These church ministry platforms and products that are, branded as done for you, they suck. Is that harsh? Well, maybe, but here's why. And I'm going to be honest with you, because I believe that it removes you, the youth pastor, from the equation.

00:02:32:26 - 00:02:58:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You are the connection. You are the relationship. And so when every single post looks the same, when every single post looks generic, when every post is downloaded in such a way that any youth ministry in the country in the world can use that product. It doesn't pack the punch that you want it to do. It doesn't build social fluency and you miss the nuances of your community.

00:02:58:22 - 00:03:21:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, I talked about it several episodes ago. I said, stop posting video announcements if you're here on YouTube, it's linked up at the top of the screen. But social is no longer about those slick ads. It's about being present and authentic, and it's about being human. But wait, you're busy. You have VBS this week. You have summer camp the week after that, and then you're taking a mission trip in the middle of the summer.

00:03:21:08 - 00:03:47:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I get it. Trust me, I'm a 15 year youth ministry veteran. Also trying to lean in to social media and hybrid ministry. In addition to that, on the weekly basis, you're leading games, you're preaching, you're planning summer trips. That is why I have built for you and for all youth ministries this summer. Social media kit. It is a 50% done for you like I was talking about, but it also has custom for you.

00:03:47:21 - 00:04:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So in the done for you category I have Bible verse reels. I have emoji phrase guesses, I have spiritual practice videos and I have what to do when you're facing blank carousel Bible based posts. I also have a full posting strategy that I recommend, and if you don't want to follow mine, then you can build your own. But then beyond that, then this is where I really believe it is the next level sort of pack because it's 50% custom done for you.

00:04:16:20 - 00:04:35:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I have devotionals where I'm telling you what to do, how to how to recap your most recent sermon. But if you don't have any ideas, I just give you a devotional script, read it, memorize it, go direct to camera and you are off to the races. I have interview style man on the street style questions with included graphics.

00:04:35:25 - 00:04:54:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So all you have to do is capture, put together and then overlay with the graphics that I have provided. I have transition hook style videos and I've included the first half of the videos. I've found them for you. All you have to do is shoot yourself, your leaders, your students, your pastor, whoever at the end of the video and invite someone to youth or to whatever event.

00:04:54:05 - 00:05:19:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally I have Bible trivia where I have included the graphics as well as the questions for you. So again, this is all very much the grunt work is handled the templates, the graphics, the prompts, and you can quickly swap yourself in to become the hero on your social media, to build that social fluency so that it'll be your voice, that it will be your photos, and that it'll be your vibe.

00:05:19:23 - 00:05:48:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You and your students and your leaders are still what is present on your social media content. Hey, youth pastors, church communications people, would you like to have your social media dialed in for the next 90 days? Especially with summer on the horizon? Listen, that's exactly what you're going to get with the summer and seasonal social media pack. It's a new product that I'm rolling exclusively on my Patreon.

00:05:48:16 - 00:06:09:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's three months of custom strategic content for less than $20, and this is built specifically for busy youth pastors like you who want to stay active on TikTok and Instagram Reels and YouTube without spending ten plus hours a month figuring out what to post. So here's what you're going to get. You're going to get 50% of the content completely done.

00:06:09:04 - 00:06:37:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's turnkey plug and play, post it and go. The other 50% is custom content for you to still shoot. However, I'm going to provide scripts and templates and frameworks so that your face, your students and your volunteers are who are seen on your social media feeds. This is not just pretty graphics. This is a full blown social media strategy for the next three months, designed by someone who knows both youth ministry and digital ministry.

00:06:37:20 - 00:07:01:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're tired of scrambling for the cost of less than a pizza and frankly, more nourishing than a pizza, grab the seasonal social media pack today. Oh, and I almost forgot. Patreon members get it for free. You know this HubSpot, trends article? There's a quote that says A buyer's purchasing experience is made up of small connections over time.

00:07:01:24 - 00:07:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And quite frankly, that's the same thing that is true with students. A student's discipleship journey is built on these things called micro connections. And so in person that's youth group. That's high five, that's fist bumps, that's showing up at their football games. But we now have the advantage in a hybrid world to lean into the digital side of those relationships as well.

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Social posts, DMs, reels, stories. They're all digital handshakes. And so I encourage youth pastors to show up consistently, not perfectly, but just regularly and show up. And the way that you show up is by putting your voice, your face, and your ministry out there. And that is a way to build that social fluency. But with the summer social media pack, you're also not going to be burning out while you're still making those digital and in-person micro connections, because I've done it all for you.

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The fact of the matter is, social media in 2025, it's not optional. It's spiritual hospitality. And the thing is, the churches who get this social fluency, they will reach more people. They will reach more deeply. So do you want to crush it this summer without cloning somebody else's completely done for you scripted strategies and grab down below link in the description.

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The Summer kit, and you can take your social media to the next level. Well, don't forget my friends and as always to stay hybrid.

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Stick around as we settle the score once and for all โ€” and help YOU pick the ultimate youth group game 00:00:26:28 - 00:00:52:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. Today we are going to be exploring Gaga ball versus nine square. And let's just imagine that you only have a limited number of budget. And you're making a decision between either Gaga Ball or nine square. What do you choose and why? And I got links listed down below for both of them so that you can make your purchase based on and after this video. 00:00:52:08 - 00:01:22:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's hop in. Gaga ball. What are the pros and the cons of Gaga Ball? I would say Gaga Ball is super fun. It's fast paced, it's upbeat. It's a good time for everyone who's involved. And one of the other pros in that is it's almost an unlimited capacity. I've seen it before in different youth ministry settings of run or like even camps where there's been what seems to be almost 50 kids all kind of flooded into the Gaga ball, center. 00:01:22:19 - 00:01:44:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're like, you can get so many kids now. The game does kind of take forever, but you can facilitate a game with a high number of students. And so those are just a couple of the pros of Gaga ball. I would say a couple of the cons would be, it does take up quite a bit of like floor space, like the footprint of a Gaga ball pit is pretty massive. 00:01:44:13 - 00:02:06:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you have to commit a pretty large section of your space, a pretty large section of your floor to gaga ball in unless you get a, portable one. It's pretty permanent, and there's really nothing else you can do in that space. The other thing I'll say about Gaga Ball is, in my experience, it does tend to lean a little bit more middle school. 00:02:06:27 - 00:02:36:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It can get a little bit rowdy. And if kids aren't taking the game seriously or they're not getting out when they should, it can get a little bit chaotic kicking. It can get a little bit rowdy, and that's just something that you have to be aware of and something that you have to manage. If you look at the link that I posted down below though, however, I actually recommend an inflatable and deflate a bull Gaga ball pit because depending upon your space, especially if you have to tear it down, you can put it up every week with like just a blower. 00:02:36:13 - 00:02:54:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Think like, you know, moon bounce type style blower blows up and then it comes right back down. And what that also does is it gives you the flexibility to have it up when you want it, when you need it. But then you can also take it down when you don't want it or you don't need it there anymore. 00:02:54:13 - 00:03:22:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's talk about nine Square. What are the pros? The pros. Same thing is gaga ball. It's a super fun game. Like, it really is. But the thing that I think, makes nine squares slightly different than Gaga Ball is, there is a little bit more. Not a ton, but a little bit more strategy involved. I think it's, it requires a little bit more, strategy, a little bit more thought, than Gaga ball, which can be a little like once you get down to the end and Gaga ball, there's some strategy. 00:03:22:12 - 00:03:40:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But at first it's just kind of like, just get people out. But yeah, nine square, I think does have a little bit more strategy. Not to mention it's not as space consuming on your footprint as Gaga ball. Now it still is. Like, don't get me wrong. Like they both take up a fair bit of space. But they're both great. 00:03:40:14 - 00:04:02:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like free time. Get to get the games out ahead of time before youth ministry starts. Style of games. The cons to Gaga ball or I'm sorry, the cons to nine square are that you can only play with nine people at a time. Now, you know, in our context right now, like, nine square is more popular than Gaga ball. 00:04:02:02 - 00:04:21:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, that line into the nine square, like arena, like it's always moving and that that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. And people will wait like several like, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten people deep, to get in back into the game. But that is a con. Is that an Gaga ball? 00:04:21:04 - 00:04:40:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like up to like, 50 people, depending on the size of your pet. Can start in a game. Nine square. It's only nine at a time. The con, though, on the flip side, is that if you don't have nine to fill it on a regular basis, then it's also not quite the same. You're playing like four, you're playing like six, like, it's just it's not quite the same. 00:04:40:22 - 00:05:00:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like having the full nine, in my opinion, is really like the best way, to play nine square. And so if you're youth ministry was maybe struggle to fill nine on a regular basis or, you know, like there's just not nine kids on a constant basis on any given, you know, Wednesday night or Sunday that are actually going to happen in play, maybe it's not worth it for you. 00:05:00:10 - 00:05:24:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Maybe guy eyeballs more, you know, the way to go or something like that. Again, link down below for my nine square recommendation. And this is called Castle Squares. And the reason I like castle squares is just like the Gaga ball pit. It is portable and take down a ball as well. In our space we have a castle squares, and we have like a full nine square, like arena and the full nine square arena. 00:05:24:23 - 00:05:49:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's great. But we don't ever take it down. It's just it's too much of a pain to do that. But the castle squares instead of having, like, all the individual poles down, it only has the four on the corners. And then just up at the top, it uses straps to create your nine spaces. And so you know, I used to work at a church that I would set up the Gaga ball pit in the nine square pit every single week, set them up and then tear them down. 00:05:49:21 - 00:06:06:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I would I would set them up like middle of the day. We met on Wednesday nights, on Wednesdays, and then I would have our volunteers tear them down when it was over and put them back for me, at the end of the night. And so if you have the space and you have the budget, I would recommend, getting both of these there. 00:06:06:16 - 00:06:24:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're both fantastic. And they're also both very, like, nimble and portable. You're not going to be committing this corner of your room for the rest of your life to either be nine square, either be the Gaga ball corner. You can take it, then you can move it. You can share space with the rest of the congregation. 00:06:24:21 - 00:06:42:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then if it just comes down to like, you only have budget for one or the other, every context is a little bit different. The current context that I'm in right now, they would vote nine square, but the context that came from, back in Chicago, they would vote Gaga ball. So you kind of got to know your students. 00:06:42:00 - 00:07:01:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You kind of got to know your audience. I would say if you have maybe more high school audience, or a more strategy based audience nine square. If you have a little bit rowdier audience, a little bit more chaotic of an audience, maybe lean Gaga ball, and just make the decision kind of based on your context and based on your students. 00:07:01:04 - 00:07:19:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like I said, links to both of these down below. If you're on the fence, if you're thinking about it, these are both two products that I have used that I recommend, and that really are good for both setting up and being able to tear down and leaving your space flexible for other things throughout the week. Hey man, I hope that this episode was helpful. 00:07:19:10 - 00:07:27:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give us a like, give us a subscribe, share it with a friend. And until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to choose to stay hybrid. gaga ball, 9 square in the air, youth group games, best games for youth ministry, youth ministry game ideas, student ministry, church youth group, gaga ball vs 9 square, youth pastor tips, church games, youth group equipment, how to choose youth group games, budget youth ministry games, Nick Clason, Hybrid Ministry, fun church games, youth group setup, gaga ball review, 9 square review, student ministry tools, youth group must haves Two legendary youth ministry games. One epic showdown. Will Gaga Ballโ€™s chaos reign supreme? Or will the high-flying strategy of 9 Square take the crown? Stick around as we settle the score once and for all โ€” and help YOU pick the ultimate youth group game!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Gaga Ball vs 9-Square
00:26 Pros & Cons of Gaga Ball in Youth Ministry
02:53 Pros & Cons of 9-Square
05:43 Making Your Decision

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Two legendary youth ministry games. One epic showdown. Will Gaga Ballโ€™s chaos reign supreme? Or will the high-flying strategy of 9 Square take the crown? Stick around as we settle the score once and for all โ€” and help YOU pick the ultimate youth group game

00:00:26:28 - 00:00:52:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. Today we are going to be exploring Gaga ball versus nine square. And let's just imagine that you only have a limited number of budget. And you're making a decision between either Gaga Ball or nine square. What do you choose and why? And I got links listed down below for both of them so that you can make your purchase based on and after this video.

00:00:52:08 - 00:01:22:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's hop in. Gaga ball. What are the pros and the cons of Gaga Ball? I would say Gaga Ball is super fun. It's fast paced, it's upbeat. It's a good time for everyone who's involved. And one of the other pros in that is it's almost an unlimited capacity. I've seen it before in different youth ministry settings of run or like even camps where there's been what seems to be almost 50 kids all kind of flooded into the Gaga ball, center.

00:01:22:19 - 00:01:44:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're like, you can get so many kids now. The game does kind of take forever, but you can facilitate a game with a high number of students. And so those are just a couple of the pros of Gaga ball. I would say a couple of the cons would be, it does take up quite a bit of like floor space, like the footprint of a Gaga ball pit is pretty massive.

00:01:44:13 - 00:02:06:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you have to commit a pretty large section of your space, a pretty large section of your floor to gaga ball in unless you get a, portable one. It's pretty permanent, and there's really nothing else you can do in that space. The other thing I'll say about Gaga Ball is, in my experience, it does tend to lean a little bit more middle school.

00:02:06:27 - 00:02:36:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It can get a little bit rowdy. And if kids aren't taking the game seriously or they're not getting out when they should, it can get a little bit chaotic kicking. It can get a little bit rowdy, and that's just something that you have to be aware of and something that you have to manage. If you look at the link that I posted down below though, however, I actually recommend an inflatable and deflate a bull Gaga ball pit because depending upon your space, especially if you have to tear it down, you can put it up every week with like just a blower.

00:02:36:13 - 00:02:54:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Think like, you know, moon bounce type style blower blows up and then it comes right back down. And what that also does is it gives you the flexibility to have it up when you want it, when you need it. But then you can also take it down when you don't want it or you don't need it there anymore.

00:02:54:13 - 00:03:22:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's talk about nine Square. What are the pros? The pros. Same thing is gaga ball. It's a super fun game. Like, it really is. But the thing that I think, makes nine squares slightly different than Gaga Ball is, there is a little bit more. Not a ton, but a little bit more strategy involved. I think it's, it requires a little bit more, strategy, a little bit more thought, than Gaga ball, which can be a little like once you get down to the end and Gaga ball, there's some strategy.

00:03:22:12 - 00:03:40:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But at first it's just kind of like, just get people out. But yeah, nine square, I think does have a little bit more strategy. Not to mention it's not as space consuming on your footprint as Gaga ball. Now it still is. Like, don't get me wrong. Like they both take up a fair bit of space. But they're both great.

00:03:40:14 - 00:04:02:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like free time. Get to get the games out ahead of time before youth ministry starts. Style of games. The cons to Gaga ball or I'm sorry, the cons to nine square are that you can only play with nine people at a time. Now, you know, in our context right now, like, nine square is more popular than Gaga ball.

00:04:02:02 - 00:04:21:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, that line into the nine square, like arena, like it's always moving and that that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. And people will wait like several like, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten people deep, to get in back into the game. But that is a con. Is that an Gaga ball?

00:04:21:04 - 00:04:40:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like up to like, 50 people, depending on the size of your pet. Can start in a game. Nine square. It's only nine at a time. The con, though, on the flip side, is that if you don't have nine to fill it on a regular basis, then it's also not quite the same. You're playing like four, you're playing like six, like, it's just it's not quite the same.

00:04:40:22 - 00:05:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like having the full nine, in my opinion, is really like the best way, to play nine square. And so if you're youth ministry was maybe struggle to fill nine on a regular basis or, you know, like there's just not nine kids on a constant basis on any given, you know, Wednesday night or Sunday that are actually going to happen in play, maybe it's not worth it for you.

00:05:00:10 - 00:05:24:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Maybe guy eyeballs more, you know, the way to go or something like that. Again, link down below for my nine square recommendation. And this is called Castle Squares. And the reason I like castle squares is just like the Gaga ball pit. It is portable and take down a ball as well. In our space we have a castle squares, and we have like a full nine square, like arena and the full nine square arena.

00:05:24:23 - 00:05:49:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's great. But we don't ever take it down. It's just it's too much of a pain to do that. But the castle squares instead of having, like, all the individual poles down, it only has the four on the corners. And then just up at the top, it uses straps to create your nine spaces. And so you know, I used to work at a church that I would set up the Gaga ball pit in the nine square pit every single week, set them up and then tear them down.

00:05:49:21 - 00:06:06:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I would I would set them up like middle of the day. We met on Wednesday nights, on Wednesdays, and then I would have our volunteers tear them down when it was over and put them back for me, at the end of the night. And so if you have the space and you have the budget, I would recommend, getting both of these there.

00:06:06:16 - 00:06:24:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're both fantastic. And they're also both very, like, nimble and portable. You're not going to be committing this corner of your room for the rest of your life to either be nine square, either be the Gaga ball corner. You can take it, then you can move it. You can share space with the rest of the congregation.

00:06:24:21 - 00:06:42:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if it just comes down to like, you only have budget for one or the other, every context is a little bit different. The current context that I'm in right now, they would vote nine square, but the context that came from, back in Chicago, they would vote Gaga ball. So you kind of got to know your students.

00:06:42:00 - 00:07:01:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You kind of got to know your audience. I would say if you have maybe more high school audience, or a more strategy based audience nine square. If you have a little bit rowdier audience, a little bit more chaotic of an audience, maybe lean Gaga ball, and just make the decision kind of based on your context and based on your students.

00:07:01:04 - 00:07:19:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like I said, links to both of these down below. If you're on the fence, if you're thinking about it, these are both two products that I have used that I recommend, and that really are good for both setting up and being able to tear down and leaving your space flexible for other things throughout the week. Hey man, I hope that this episode was helpful.

00:07:19:10 - 00:07:27:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give us a like, give us a subscribe, share it with a friend. And until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to choose to stay hybrid.

]]> Two legendary youth ministry games. One epic showdown. Will Gaga Ballโ€™s chaos reign supreme? Or will the high-flying strategy of 9 Square take the crown? Stick around as we settle the score once and for all โ€” and help YOU pick the ultimate youth group game!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Gaga Ball vs 9-Square
00:26 Pros & Cons of Gaga Ball in Youth Ministry
02:53 Pros & Cons of 9-Square
05:43 Making Your Decision

--------------
TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Two legendary youth ministry games. One epic showdown. Will Gaga Ballโ€™s chaos reign supreme? Or will the high-flying strategy of 9 Square take the crown? Stick around as we settle the score once and for all โ€” and help YOU pick the ultimate youth group game

00:00:26:28 - 00:00:52:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. Today we are going to be exploring Gaga ball versus nine square. And let's just imagine that you only have a limited number of budget. And you're making a decision between either Gaga Ball or nine square. What do you choose and why? And I got links listed down below for both of them so that you can make your purchase based on and after this video.

00:00:52:08 - 00:01:22:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's hop in. Gaga ball. What are the pros and the cons of Gaga Ball? I would say Gaga Ball is super fun. It's fast paced, it's upbeat. It's a good time for everyone who's involved. And one of the other pros in that is it's almost an unlimited capacity. I've seen it before in different youth ministry settings of run or like even camps where there's been what seems to be almost 50 kids all kind of flooded into the Gaga ball, center.

00:01:22:19 - 00:01:44:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're like, you can get so many kids now. The game does kind of take forever, but you can facilitate a game with a high number of students. And so those are just a couple of the pros of Gaga ball. I would say a couple of the cons would be, it does take up quite a bit of like floor space, like the footprint of a Gaga ball pit is pretty massive.

00:01:44:13 - 00:02:06:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you have to commit a pretty large section of your space, a pretty large section of your floor to gaga ball in unless you get a, portable one. It's pretty permanent, and there's really nothing else you can do in that space. The other thing I'll say about Gaga Ball is, in my experience, it does tend to lean a little bit more middle school.

00:02:06:27 - 00:02:36:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It can get a little bit rowdy. And if kids aren't taking the game seriously or they're not getting out when they should, it can get a little bit chaotic kicking. It can get a little bit rowdy, and that's just something that you have to be aware of and something that you have to manage. If you look at the link that I posted down below though, however, I actually recommend an inflatable and deflate a bull Gaga ball pit because depending upon your space, especially if you have to tear it down, you can put it up every week with like just a blower.

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Think like, you know, moon bounce type style blower blows up and then it comes right back down. And what that also does is it gives you the flexibility to have it up when you want it, when you need it. But then you can also take it down when you don't want it or you don't need it there anymore.

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Let's talk about nine Square. What are the pros? The pros. Same thing is gaga ball. It's a super fun game. Like, it really is. But the thing that I think, makes nine squares slightly different than Gaga Ball is, there is a little bit more. Not a ton, but a little bit more strategy involved. I think it's, it requires a little bit more, strategy, a little bit more thought, than Gaga ball, which can be a little like once you get down to the end and Gaga ball, there's some strategy.

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But at first it's just kind of like, just get people out. But yeah, nine square, I think does have a little bit more strategy. Not to mention it's not as space consuming on your footprint as Gaga ball. Now it still is. Like, don't get me wrong. Like they both take up a fair bit of space. But they're both great.

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Like free time. Get to get the games out ahead of time before youth ministry starts. Style of games. The cons to Gaga ball or I'm sorry, the cons to nine square are that you can only play with nine people at a time. Now, you know, in our context right now, like, nine square is more popular than Gaga ball.

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And so, that line into the nine square, like arena, like it's always moving and that that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. And people will wait like several like, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten people deep, to get in back into the game. But that is a con. Is that an Gaga ball?

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Like up to like, 50 people, depending on the size of your pet. Can start in a game. Nine square. It's only nine at a time. The con, though, on the flip side, is that if you don't have nine to fill it on a regular basis, then it's also not quite the same. You're playing like four, you're playing like six, like, it's just it's not quite the same.

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Like having the full nine, in my opinion, is really like the best way, to play nine square. And so if you're youth ministry was maybe struggle to fill nine on a regular basis or, you know, like there's just not nine kids on a constant basis on any given, you know, Wednesday night or Sunday that are actually going to happen in play, maybe it's not worth it for you.

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Maybe guy eyeballs more, you know, the way to go or something like that. Again, link down below for my nine square recommendation. And this is called Castle Squares. And the reason I like castle squares is just like the Gaga ball pit. It is portable and take down a ball as well. In our space we have a castle squares, and we have like a full nine square, like arena and the full nine square arena.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's great. But we don't ever take it down. It's just it's too much of a pain to do that. But the castle squares instead of having, like, all the individual poles down, it only has the four on the corners. And then just up at the top, it uses straps to create your nine spaces. And so you know, I used to work at a church that I would set up the Gaga ball pit in the nine square pit every single week, set them up and then tear them down.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I would I would set them up like middle of the day. We met on Wednesday nights, on Wednesdays, and then I would have our volunteers tear them down when it was over and put them back for me, at the end of the night. And so if you have the space and you have the budget, I would recommend, getting both of these there.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're both fantastic. And they're also both very, like, nimble and portable. You're not going to be committing this corner of your room for the rest of your life to either be nine square, either be the Gaga ball corner. You can take it, then you can move it. You can share space with the rest of the congregation.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if it just comes down to like, you only have budget for one or the other, every context is a little bit different. The current context that I'm in right now, they would vote nine square, but the context that came from, back in Chicago, they would vote Gaga ball. So you kind of got to know your students.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You kind of got to know your audience. I would say if you have maybe more high school audience, or a more strategy based audience nine square. If you have a little bit rowdier audience, a little bit more chaotic of an audience, maybe lean Gaga ball, and just make the decision kind of based on your context and based on your students.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like I said, links to both of these down below. If you're on the fence, if you're thinking about it, these are both two products that I have used that I recommend, and that really are good for both setting up and being able to tear down and leaving your space flexible for other things throughout the week. Hey man, I hope that this episode was helpful.

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Give us a like, give us a subscribe, share it with a friend. And until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to choose to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 150: 5 TIPS | Promotion like a Pro! Beginning vs End of Summer? https://www.hybridministry.xyz/150 1e29e5b8-8b0c-44f1-a7b0-03b55608557d Thu, 22 May 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 150 5 TIPS | Promotion like a Pro! Beginning vs End of Summer? full Nick Clason When should you promote elementary studentsโ€”right after school ends or just before the fall kickoff? In this episode, weโ€™re breaking down the pros and cons of beginning-of-summer vs end-of-summer promotions to help you make the best move for your ministry. Whether you promote from 5th to 6th or 6th to 7th, or just want to avoid the chaos of unclear grade promotionsโ€”this oneโ€™s for you! 18:55 no When should you promote elementary studentsโ€”right after school ends or just before the fall kickoff? In this video, weโ€™re breaking down the pros and cons of beginning-of-summer vs end-of-summer promotions to help you make the best move for your ministry. 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Whether you promote at the beginning of the summer or whether you wait until the end of summer and closer to the fall and start of your school year. Whether you're promoting from fifth to six or from 6 to 7. This video is for you. And make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I'm going to then rattle off five tips to make your grade and event promotion fantastic, and ones that you can implement right now. 00:00:32:03 - 00:01:00:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Don't forget, as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of the video that matters the most to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. When should you promote in your youth ministry from elementary into your student ministry? Let's talk about some pros and some cons from summer versus beginning of the school year, or summer versus end of summer. 00:01:00:14 - 00:01:20:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so two pros, two cons from each category. Pro number one from promoting at the beginning of the summer is it is just it is a clean and it is a fresh start for everyone. The school year is a immediately in the rearview mirror. And people, students especially, are ready to move on to what's next and what's ahead of them. 00:01:20:10 - 00:01:44:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the beginning of summer provides an amazing opportunity, just mentally and from a vibes standpoint, of when it feels like the most natural time to promote from elementary and to youth ministry. If you also promote at the beginning of summer, you have the option. If it's something that you choose to take advantage of, to let your most recently incoming students be able to go with you to summer camp. 00:01:44:08 - 00:02:06:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, historically, I have allowed and loved having our incoming sixth graders, our incoming seventh graders be able to go with us to summer camp. And while they're still very young, it's an amazing opportunity to kind of introduce them. And, you know, a little bit. Baptism by fire, to our student ministry, to our leaders, to me, as the youth pastor. 00:02:06:13 - 00:02:28:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And but it does really help, in my mind, help solidify their involvement, and their excitement around student ministry. Now, what are the cons, however, of if you promote at the beginning of the summer, some of the cons I would say are that it is a weird programing time for a lot of youth ministries. Your school year, youth ministry programing is pretty down. 00:02:28:05 - 00:02:51:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's pretty locked in. Summer ends up being weird. You take a lot more breaks. You have a lot more. Maybe have a skeleton program. You maybe don't even meet, like, at all. And so to promote at the beginning of the summer and then introduce your sixth graders into, like, a little bit more of a weird and kind of nebulous time on the calendar, I think can be a little bit tricky, especially with solidifying their involvement and regularity. 00:02:51:05 - 00:03:14:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so maybe, yes, I did get to go to camp, but then they came back from camp. And what are you doing in your youth ministry that they can grab on to you and that they can attach on to in their first few weeks and first few months of being involved in youth ministry? And one of the reasons for that weird and kind of nebulous programing is this other common, is that it is a vacation time for a lot of families. 00:03:14:01 - 00:03:31:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so while it may be best and most advantageous for you to promote at the beginning of the summer, those students are promoted, but then they go on vacation with their families, and maybe they're not on vacation all summer. They're gone for a week, but they come back, and then their friend is also gone on vacation and, it's staggered. 00:03:31:28 - 00:03:53:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then that friend comes back, and then the third friend is on vacation, and then the first friend is that they're like, you know, horseback riding camp or whatever. And so students are all over the place in the summer. And so a kind of promoting in the summer is you lose the optionality for just regular kind of consistent attendance and regular and kind of consistent programing, you know, for your students. 00:03:53:20 - 00:04:12:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So then on the flip side, if you're like, okay, yeah, you're right. Those are some disadvantages for sure. Maybe we should consider promoting at the end of summer. Let's talk a little bit about what the pros and the cons are about promoting at the end of summer. So a pro would be is that students do enter into your programing now. 00:04:12:13 - 00:04:48:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what I would say is peak programing time for most youth ministries in the world. And so the important thing that we need to understand is that most student ministries have a solid, like, you know, post Labor Day to Memorial Day calendar of student ministry. And so if you want to give them your like best version of programing, put your best foot forward, it might be most advantageous for your students to step into your most well done, most fully hatched student ministry programing, which is going to take place at the end of summer rather than the beginning of summer. 00:04:48:02 - 00:05:13:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The other pro is that they are a few months older and they are now in middle school. You got to think if you promoted the beginning of summer, they've just been in elementary school and now they're stepping into middle school version of programing, but they've never actually been in middle school. And so you'll have them for three months with an elementary school mindset rather than a more middle school mindset. 00:05:13:21 - 00:05:35:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so those three months, you might not think they're big deal, but from a, just development and from a maturity standpoint, those three months do make a major difference. And you probably have heard this before, but a kid develops the most from the ages of 0 to 3. And then the second period of time where they develop the most is from sixth grade to eighth grade. 00:05:35:15 - 00:05:54:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so there's going to be a lot of development happening in your sixth graders. And then if you know, if you promote in seventh grade, also that seventh grade level as well, they're right square in the middle of that second most major developmental three year run that they're ever going to experience in their entire life. And so a pro could just be that maturity piece. 00:05:54:02 - 00:06:19:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're able to sit a little bit longer in chairs. They're able to, experience more of a youth ministry setting rather than just simply an elementary setting. What are some of the cons of promoting maybe at the end of school year? You know, this is maybe one of my biggest cons in this entire list is that when you are done with school, the last day of school, whatever grade you're in, what do you tell everyone that very moment that you step out of the school into your parents car? 00:06:19:20 - 00:06:38:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or the very next time someone asks you what grade you're in, you don't say, if you left fifth grade, you don't say, I'm in fifth grade. No, you say you're in sixth grade. And so if that church you're not allowing them to move up when they're emotionally moving up. I think that's a tough sell for a lot of kids in that age group. 00:06:38:13 - 00:07:00:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're ready to move on to what's next. And so to hold them back for all of June, all of July and all of August, that in my opinion, that can be a little bit tough. In the same way that there's a lot of kind of tough moments and tough decisions to make when making this decision. But I think one of the toughest ones for the actual student is going to be the fact that they're not able to move up when mentally they've graduated. 00:07:00:07 - 00:07:18:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right? We all the graduation has happened in May, and then to hold back on the church graduation until the end of summer, that just really doesn't fall into alignment with the way that their life, you know, is working at the time. And then the last con here about promoting at the end of summer is very simply, they can't come with to camp. 00:07:18:29 - 00:07:36:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you choose to hold them back, you do rule them out of that ability of being able to go with you to summer camp. And if that's a value of yours, if you want to help integrate new students, if you want to help give students, the the best week that your student ministry has to offer in most cases is a week of summer camp. 00:07:36:22 - 00:08:03:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They don't get to experience that until a full calendar year later. And maybe there's some value in waiting and, you know, looking ahead to, and being excited about camp, but maybe there's, a little bit of a loss there as well. And just the fact that, like, they're brand new customer, so to speak, of your student ministry and what you have to offer, and they're not allowed to go with to camp, that might just be a little bit of a bummer. 00:08:03:00 - 00:08:45:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you may miss an opportunity to kind of grab some momentum and ride it, into the school year. So everyone, this episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created in my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month. 00:08:45:17 - 00:09:09:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So every single time I create a resource that's just through my Patreon that costs money for people who want to go on to my shop and buy something, you get it for free as a patron member, plus a weekly bonus podcast where I talk about what I do on social media every week. I talk about what I do in my programing every week to try and keep it creative and hybrid, and how we're using sidekick over there. 00:09:09:28 - 00:09:28:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out. 00:09:28:18 - 00:09:47:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Link down below in the description where it says Become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. With all those things being said, regardless of where you're promoting, regardless of if you're beginning of summer, regardless of if you're end of summer, I do have five amazing. 00:09:47:20 - 00:10:17:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry An incredible tips that you can implement right now. Because here's the fact when this video drops, you've probably made your be for summer or end of summer decision. But these five tips, they can be implemented by you right now regardless of what decisions have been made. So tip number one is, in light of all the pros and light of all the cons, regardless of where you land on that decision, if as we laid those out, you maybe were even swayed from like I was an end of summer guy, now I'm a beginning of summer guy, or vice versa. 00:10:17:26 - 00:10:36:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This tip is the most important tip of all the tips. Make sure that your grade promotion is in alignment with the rest of your church. And what I mean by that is you can't have your kids ministry promoting from kindergarten to first grade, from first grade to second grade and all the way through at like, say at the beginning of summer. 00:10:36:01 - 00:10:57:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then you hold until the end of summer, even if you personally are in a disagreeing state with the rest of the way, your church, especially your elementary maybe your college ministry is promoting your most important value in this is alignment with the church from top to bottom. And so, you need to make sure that you're on the same page with your kids ministry. 00:10:57:29 - 00:11:15:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You need to make sure you're on the same page with your collegiate minister so that you guys all together collectively have one big day where everyone promotes up. That's also going to make things that you might not, might not care about quite as much, like database. And like those types things all of those promote at the exact same time. 00:11:15:11 - 00:11:44:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it would be confusing if elementary and college promoted at one time and student ministry held back and promoted at another time. And so just make sure you're in alignment. And if you know your kids ministry makes a decision that you're not much of a fan of, I would I would argue that's important to either a, give in caved in to their decision, or b find a way to get on the same page so that you can collectively walk out arm's length as a church unified that says, hey, this is what we as a church are doing. 00:11:44:14 - 00:12:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That is, in my opinion, the most important thing in all of this, regardless of where you land, as far as a decision, that individual decision is made. Tip number two is that you should host a parent meeting and subsequent tours in said meeting. Now, you'll never you'll never have better attendance for a meeting than when you're bringing a fifth grader into sixth grade or a sixth grader into seventh grade. 00:12:10:16 - 00:12:37:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, in a recent episode that I had about ten tips with partnering with parents, which was a fantastic episode with my friend Josh Bowman linked right here at the top of the YouTube screen, we discussed how meetings are difficult for attendance for parents, and quite honestly, not the most effective use of your time. However, if you are going to have a meeting, if you are going to catch a wave, and if you are going to have a decent attendance for something, it is going to be during this transition. 00:12:37:01 - 00:13:06:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So host it, put your best foot forward, bring out all of the stops, give those parents a tour of your space so that they know exactly what there is to expect in student ministry, and that they'll feel comfortable handing their kid off from elementary. Which, you got to think about this parents have had their kids in the exact same ministry now for that kid's entire life, and now they're being asked to trust a completely new person, a stranger. 00:13:06:21 - 00:13:26:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's you and your ministry. And so make sure that you roll out the red carpet. You may not get 100% attendance, but just know this if you don't get 100% attendance, that means the people that don't attend, they probably trust you. And if they don't attend and they don't trust you, it probably just means they couldn't make it for one reason or another. 00:13:26:26 - 00:13:43:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so host that meeting and let me give you a little bonus. Pro tip from the hybrid Ministry show. Find a way to record it. Capture the audio out of your soundboard and send out the audio, podcast later. Throw a video in the back of the room so that you can link to audio in the video. 00:13:43:06 - 00:14:07:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or just like voice memo, your phone from where you're talking at the front of the room, and send that audio out later, even if it's rough and dirty. But get that in the hands of your parents, especially the ones who don't make it. Now, tip number three is find a way to celebrate those sixth graders or seventh graders arrival. 00:14:07:14 - 00:14:31:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give them swag. Create a spirit tunnel. They're the VIPs for the day. And the fact is, in our culture and in our world, that's the exact opposite. When a new grade comes into middle school or junior high, they're not the VIPs. They're the low people on the totem pole. And while they are the lowest on the totem pole from a factual standpoint at church that should be flipped on its head. 00:14:31:28 - 00:14:55:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The last shall be first and the first shall be last. And so therefore, let's make our new incoming grade. Let's make them feel like a million bucks. Tip number four is make sure that your parent section on your website, your overall website, your social media, make sure all of that is up to date. You have a whole new crop of eyes looking at your website, looking at your social media, you know? 00:14:55:21 - 00:15:29:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Link down below. I have an entire four part playlist on the importance of communication in church, and especially the importance of an up dated website that is very simply the most basic step in all of hybrid ministry and all of social media ministry. Your website needs to be your backstop and your landing spot. That is what allows you to stop promoting on your social media, because your website can handle the information and the the the the disseminating of the actual data that the people are looking for. 00:15:29:09 - 00:15:57:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But it you can't do that on social media if your website is not up to date. And when you have a brand new wave of parents in a brand new wave of students, it's important, just like you're programing, to also online put your best foot forward, and that includes making sure that your website is up to date and your social media looks the way that you would want a brand new parent who might be freaked out about sending their kid from elementary into middle school to look at your website like, oh yeah, I can trust this person. 00:15:57:16 - 00:16:32:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the fifth and final tip is perhaps consider creating their own week for them. So in our current context, when our, VBS is going on church wide for all the elementary age kids, we are offering a very custom specific fifth grade into sixth grade only week. And it is basically their own version of VBS. And so because of that week, we don't actually let our sixth graders come with us to camp, which is a deviation from my strategy as a 14 year plus youth ministry veteran. 00:16:32:26 - 00:16:48:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But because we offer this week, it allows them to have that same momentum that a week of camp would allow them to do without bringing such a young kid on an overnight camp. And so it allows them to have a full year in our ministry before they do ever go to camp. But it's not that they get nothing. 00:16:48:09 - 00:17:07:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They get their very own week. They're the only grade in the entire church that gets their own specific custom, laser focused week. And so it's a week for fifth graders into sixth graders and our church is called Cross Creek Church. And so we call it Cross the Creek Week. And it's the week where those kids come across the creek. 00:17:07:00 - 00:17:36:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We have a creek, physical creek on our campus, and the kids building is on one side of the creek. And the student building is on the other side of the creek, and we deck it out. I mean, we go all in and it is a loud it is a space already week. I mean, those kids are wild and crazy, but it is an amazing week for them to connect with us as the only time that an entire grade gets an entire focus with the students, staff, student residents, student volunteers and we pull out all of the stops. 00:17:36:03 - 00:18:11:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you have the bandwidth, the capacity, the volunteer man hours, the space on your calendar in and around your camps and your mission trips to create a custom week, it's just, morning, 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. for fifth graders. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday during our our work week at church for those kids to experience everything that student ministry has to offer, it feels like VBS from a schedule standpoint, but it feels so student ministry from an actual programing standpoint. 00:18:11:08 - 00:18:39:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's a way to kind of marry those two weeks and create an amazing promote, time for those fifth graders. And so if you have the capacity or the bandwidth and you this one, I will say you may not be able to pull out this year, but but perhaps put it in the back of your mind and consider pulling it out next year as an opportunity to really enhance and uptake that, grade promotion for those, elementary students coming on in to your student ministry. 00:18:39:17 - 00:18:52:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, hey, friends, I hope you enjoyed this episode. As always, I would love a subscribe. It's free on your end and it really would make the world of difference on ours. 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00:00 Grade Promotion like a Pro!
00:42 Pros: Beginning of Summer
02:14 Cons: Beginning of Summer
03:53 Pros: End of Summer
06:02 Cons: End of Summer
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00:00:00:19 - 00:00:32:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When should you promote from elementary into your youth ministry? Whether you promote at the beginning of the summer or whether you wait until the end of summer and closer to the fall and start of your school year. Whether you're promoting from fifth to six or from 6 to 7. This video is for you. And make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I'm going to then rattle off five tips to make your grade and event promotion fantastic, and ones that you can implement right now.

00:00:32:03 - 00:01:00:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't forget, as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of the video that matters the most to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. When should you promote in your youth ministry from elementary into your student ministry? Let's talk about some pros and some cons from summer versus beginning of the school year, or summer versus end of summer.

00:01:00:14 - 00:01:20:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so two pros, two cons from each category. Pro number one from promoting at the beginning of the summer is it is just it is a clean and it is a fresh start for everyone. The school year is a immediately in the rearview mirror. And people, students especially, are ready to move on to what's next and what's ahead of them.

00:01:20:10 - 00:01:44:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the beginning of summer provides an amazing opportunity, just mentally and from a vibes standpoint, of when it feels like the most natural time to promote from elementary and to youth ministry. If you also promote at the beginning of summer, you have the option. If it's something that you choose to take advantage of, to let your most recently incoming students be able to go with you to summer camp.

00:01:44:08 - 00:02:06:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, historically, I have allowed and loved having our incoming sixth graders, our incoming seventh graders be able to go with us to summer camp. And while they're still very young, it's an amazing opportunity to kind of introduce them. And, you know, a little bit. Baptism by fire, to our student ministry, to our leaders, to me, as the youth pastor.

00:02:06:13 - 00:02:28:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And but it does really help, in my mind, help solidify their involvement, and their excitement around student ministry. Now, what are the cons, however, of if you promote at the beginning of the summer, some of the cons I would say are that it is a weird programing time for a lot of youth ministries. Your school year, youth ministry programing is pretty down.

00:02:28:05 - 00:02:51:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's pretty locked in. Summer ends up being weird. You take a lot more breaks. You have a lot more. Maybe have a skeleton program. You maybe don't even meet, like, at all. And so to promote at the beginning of the summer and then introduce your sixth graders into, like, a little bit more of a weird and kind of nebulous time on the calendar, I think can be a little bit tricky, especially with solidifying their involvement and regularity.

00:02:51:05 - 00:03:14:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so maybe, yes, I did get to go to camp, but then they came back from camp. And what are you doing in your youth ministry that they can grab on to you and that they can attach on to in their first few weeks and first few months of being involved in youth ministry? And one of the reasons for that weird and kind of nebulous programing is this other common, is that it is a vacation time for a lot of families.

00:03:14:01 - 00:03:31:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so while it may be best and most advantageous for you to promote at the beginning of the summer, those students are promoted, but then they go on vacation with their families, and maybe they're not on vacation all summer. They're gone for a week, but they come back, and then their friend is also gone on vacation and, it's staggered.

00:03:31:28 - 00:03:53:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then that friend comes back, and then the third friend is on vacation, and then the first friend is that they're like, you know, horseback riding camp or whatever. And so students are all over the place in the summer. And so a kind of promoting in the summer is you lose the optionality for just regular kind of consistent attendance and regular and kind of consistent programing, you know, for your students.

00:03:53:20 - 00:04:12:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So then on the flip side, if you're like, okay, yeah, you're right. Those are some disadvantages for sure. Maybe we should consider promoting at the end of summer. Let's talk a little bit about what the pros and the cons are about promoting at the end of summer. So a pro would be is that students do enter into your programing now.

00:04:12:13 - 00:04:48:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I would say is peak programing time for most youth ministries in the world. And so the important thing that we need to understand is that most student ministries have a solid, like, you know, post Labor Day to Memorial Day calendar of student ministry. And so if you want to give them your like best version of programing, put your best foot forward, it might be most advantageous for your students to step into your most well done, most fully hatched student ministry programing, which is going to take place at the end of summer rather than the beginning of summer.

00:04:48:02 - 00:05:13:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The other pro is that they are a few months older and they are now in middle school. You got to think if you promoted the beginning of summer, they've just been in elementary school and now they're stepping into middle school version of programing, but they've never actually been in middle school. And so you'll have them for three months with an elementary school mindset rather than a more middle school mindset.

00:05:13:21 - 00:05:35:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so those three months, you might not think they're big deal, but from a, just development and from a maturity standpoint, those three months do make a major difference. And you probably have heard this before, but a kid develops the most from the ages of 0 to 3. And then the second period of time where they develop the most is from sixth grade to eighth grade.

00:05:35:15 - 00:05:54:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so there's going to be a lot of development happening in your sixth graders. And then if you know, if you promote in seventh grade, also that seventh grade level as well, they're right square in the middle of that second most major developmental three year run that they're ever going to experience in their entire life. And so a pro could just be that maturity piece.

00:05:54:02 - 00:06:19:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're able to sit a little bit longer in chairs. They're able to, experience more of a youth ministry setting rather than just simply an elementary setting. What are some of the cons of promoting maybe at the end of school year? You know, this is maybe one of my biggest cons in this entire list is that when you are done with school, the last day of school, whatever grade you're in, what do you tell everyone that very moment that you step out of the school into your parents car?

00:06:19:20 - 00:06:38:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or the very next time someone asks you what grade you're in, you don't say, if you left fifth grade, you don't say, I'm in fifth grade. No, you say you're in sixth grade. And so if that church you're not allowing them to move up when they're emotionally moving up. I think that's a tough sell for a lot of kids in that age group.

00:06:38:13 - 00:07:00:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're ready to move on to what's next. And so to hold them back for all of June, all of July and all of August, that in my opinion, that can be a little bit tough. In the same way that there's a lot of kind of tough moments and tough decisions to make when making this decision. But I think one of the toughest ones for the actual student is going to be the fact that they're not able to move up when mentally they've graduated.

00:07:00:07 - 00:07:18:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right? We all the graduation has happened in May, and then to hold back on the church graduation until the end of summer, that just really doesn't fall into alignment with the way that their life, you know, is working at the time. And then the last con here about promoting at the end of summer is very simply, they can't come with to camp.

00:07:18:29 - 00:07:36:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you choose to hold them back, you do rule them out of that ability of being able to go with you to summer camp. And if that's a value of yours, if you want to help integrate new students, if you want to help give students, the the best week that your student ministry has to offer in most cases is a week of summer camp.

00:07:36:22 - 00:08:03:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They don't get to experience that until a full calendar year later. And maybe there's some value in waiting and, you know, looking ahead to, and being excited about camp, but maybe there's, a little bit of a loss there as well. And just the fact that, like, they're brand new customer, so to speak, of your student ministry and what you have to offer, and they're not allowed to go with to camp, that might just be a little bit of a bummer.

00:08:03:00 - 00:08:45:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you may miss an opportunity to kind of grab some momentum and ride it, into the school year. So everyone, this episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created in my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month.

00:08:45:17 - 00:09:09:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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00:09:09:28 - 00:09:28:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out.

00:09:28:18 - 00:09:47:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below in the description where it says Become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. With all those things being said, regardless of where you're promoting, regardless of if you're beginning of summer, regardless of if you're end of summer, I do have five amazing.

00:09:47:20 - 00:10:17:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
An incredible tips that you can implement right now. Because here's the fact when this video drops, you've probably made your be for summer or end of summer decision. But these five tips, they can be implemented by you right now regardless of what decisions have been made. So tip number one is, in light of all the pros and light of all the cons, regardless of where you land on that decision, if as we laid those out, you maybe were even swayed from like I was an end of summer guy, now I'm a beginning of summer guy, or vice versa.

00:10:17:26 - 00:10:36:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This tip is the most important tip of all the tips. Make sure that your grade promotion is in alignment with the rest of your church. And what I mean by that is you can't have your kids ministry promoting from kindergarten to first grade, from first grade to second grade and all the way through at like, say at the beginning of summer.

00:10:36:01 - 00:10:57:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you hold until the end of summer, even if you personally are in a disagreeing state with the rest of the way, your church, especially your elementary maybe your college ministry is promoting your most important value in this is alignment with the church from top to bottom. And so, you need to make sure that you're on the same page with your kids ministry.

00:10:57:29 - 00:11:15:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You need to make sure you're on the same page with your collegiate minister so that you guys all together collectively have one big day where everyone promotes up. That's also going to make things that you might not, might not care about quite as much, like database. And like those types things all of those promote at the exact same time.

00:11:15:11 - 00:11:44:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it would be confusing if elementary and college promoted at one time and student ministry held back and promoted at another time. And so just make sure you're in alignment. And if you know your kids ministry makes a decision that you're not much of a fan of, I would I would argue that's important to either a, give in caved in to their decision, or b find a way to get on the same page so that you can collectively walk out arm's length as a church unified that says, hey, this is what we as a church are doing.

00:11:44:14 - 00:12:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That is, in my opinion, the most important thing in all of this, regardless of where you land, as far as a decision, that individual decision is made. Tip number two is that you should host a parent meeting and subsequent tours in said meeting. Now, you'll never you'll never have better attendance for a meeting than when you're bringing a fifth grader into sixth grade or a sixth grader into seventh grade.

00:12:10:16 - 00:12:37:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, in a recent episode that I had about ten tips with partnering with parents, which was a fantastic episode with my friend Josh Bowman linked right here at the top of the YouTube screen, we discussed how meetings are difficult for attendance for parents, and quite honestly, not the most effective use of your time. However, if you are going to have a meeting, if you are going to catch a wave, and if you are going to have a decent attendance for something, it is going to be during this transition.

00:12:37:01 - 00:13:06:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So host it, put your best foot forward, bring out all of the stops, give those parents a tour of your space so that they know exactly what there is to expect in student ministry, and that they'll feel comfortable handing their kid off from elementary. Which, you got to think about this parents have had their kids in the exact same ministry now for that kid's entire life, and now they're being asked to trust a completely new person, a stranger.

00:13:06:21 - 00:13:26:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's you and your ministry. And so make sure that you roll out the red carpet. You may not get 100% attendance, but just know this if you don't get 100% attendance, that means the people that don't attend, they probably trust you. And if they don't attend and they don't trust you, it probably just means they couldn't make it for one reason or another.

00:13:26:26 - 00:13:43:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so host that meeting and let me give you a little bonus. Pro tip from the hybrid Ministry show. Find a way to record it. Capture the audio out of your soundboard and send out the audio, podcast later. Throw a video in the back of the room so that you can link to audio in the video.

00:13:43:06 - 00:14:07:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or just like voice memo, your phone from where you're talking at the front of the room, and send that audio out later, even if it's rough and dirty. But get that in the hands of your parents, especially the ones who don't make it. Now, tip number three is find a way to celebrate those sixth graders or seventh graders arrival.

00:14:07:14 - 00:14:31:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give them swag. Create a spirit tunnel. They're the VIPs for the day. And the fact is, in our culture and in our world, that's the exact opposite. When a new grade comes into middle school or junior high, they're not the VIPs. They're the low people on the totem pole. And while they are the lowest on the totem pole from a factual standpoint at church that should be flipped on its head.

00:14:31:28 - 00:14:55:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last shall be first and the first shall be last. And so therefore, let's make our new incoming grade. Let's make them feel like a million bucks. Tip number four is make sure that your parent section on your website, your overall website, your social media, make sure all of that is up to date. You have a whole new crop of eyes looking at your website, looking at your social media, you know?

00:14:55:21 - 00:15:29:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below. I have an entire four part playlist on the importance of communication in church, and especially the importance of an up dated website that is very simply the most basic step in all of hybrid ministry and all of social media ministry. Your website needs to be your backstop and your landing spot. That is what allows you to stop promoting on your social media, because your website can handle the information and the the the the disseminating of the actual data that the people are looking for.

00:15:29:09 - 00:15:57:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it you can't do that on social media if your website is not up to date. And when you have a brand new wave of parents in a brand new wave of students, it's important, just like you're programing, to also online put your best foot forward, and that includes making sure that your website is up to date and your social media looks the way that you would want a brand new parent who might be freaked out about sending their kid from elementary into middle school to look at your website like, oh yeah, I can trust this person.

00:15:57:16 - 00:16:32:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the fifth and final tip is perhaps consider creating their own week for them. So in our current context, when our, VBS is going on church wide for all the elementary age kids, we are offering a very custom specific fifth grade into sixth grade only week. And it is basically their own version of VBS. And so because of that week, we don't actually let our sixth graders come with us to camp, which is a deviation from my strategy as a 14 year plus youth ministry veteran.

00:16:32:26 - 00:16:48:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But because we offer this week, it allows them to have that same momentum that a week of camp would allow them to do without bringing such a young kid on an overnight camp. And so it allows them to have a full year in our ministry before they do ever go to camp. But it's not that they get nothing.

00:16:48:09 - 00:17:07:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They get their very own week. They're the only grade in the entire church that gets their own specific custom, laser focused week. And so it's a week for fifth graders into sixth graders and our church is called Cross Creek Church. And so we call it Cross the Creek Week. And it's the week where those kids come across the creek.

00:17:07:00 - 00:17:36:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We have a creek, physical creek on our campus, and the kids building is on one side of the creek. And the student building is on the other side of the creek, and we deck it out. I mean, we go all in and it is a loud it is a space already week. I mean, those kids are wild and crazy, but it is an amazing week for them to connect with us as the only time that an entire grade gets an entire focus with the students, staff, student residents, student volunteers and we pull out all of the stops.

00:17:36:03 - 00:18:11:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you have the bandwidth, the capacity, the volunteer man hours, the space on your calendar in and around your camps and your mission trips to create a custom week, it's just, morning, 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. for fifth graders. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday during our our work week at church for those kids to experience everything that student ministry has to offer, it feels like VBS from a schedule standpoint, but it feels so student ministry from an actual programing standpoint.

00:18:11:08 - 00:18:39:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's a way to kind of marry those two weeks and create an amazing promote, time for those fifth graders. And so if you have the capacity or the bandwidth and you this one, I will say you may not be able to pull out this year, but but perhaps put it in the back of your mind and consider pulling it out next year as an opportunity to really enhance and uptake that, grade promotion for those, elementary students coming on in to your student ministry.

00:18:39:17 - 00:18:52:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, hey, friends, I hope you enjoyed this episode. As always, I would love a subscribe. It's free on your end and it really would make the world of difference on ours. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Grade Promotion like a Pro!
00:42 Pros: Beginning of Summer
02:14 Cons: Beginning of Summer
03:53 Pros: End of Summer
06:02 Cons: End of Summer
08:10 Become a Hybrid Hero (https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry)
09:40 Tip #1 - MOST IMPORTANT!
11:54 Tip #2
14:00 Tip #3
14:42 Tip #4
15:58 Tip #5

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:19 - 00:00:32:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When should you promote from elementary into your youth ministry? Whether you promote at the beginning of the summer or whether you wait until the end of summer and closer to the fall and start of your school year. Whether you're promoting from fifth to six or from 6 to 7. This video is for you. And make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I'm going to then rattle off five tips to make your grade and event promotion fantastic, and ones that you can implement right now.

00:00:32:03 - 00:01:00:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't forget, as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the part of the video that matters the most to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show. Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. When should you promote in your youth ministry from elementary into your student ministry? Let's talk about some pros and some cons from summer versus beginning of the school year, or summer versus end of summer.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so two pros, two cons from each category. Pro number one from promoting at the beginning of the summer is it is just it is a clean and it is a fresh start for everyone. The school year is a immediately in the rearview mirror. And people, students especially, are ready to move on to what's next and what's ahead of them.

00:01:20:10 - 00:01:44:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the beginning of summer provides an amazing opportunity, just mentally and from a vibes standpoint, of when it feels like the most natural time to promote from elementary and to youth ministry. If you also promote at the beginning of summer, you have the option. If it's something that you choose to take advantage of, to let your most recently incoming students be able to go with you to summer camp.

00:01:44:08 - 00:02:06:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, historically, I have allowed and loved having our incoming sixth graders, our incoming seventh graders be able to go with us to summer camp. And while they're still very young, it's an amazing opportunity to kind of introduce them. And, you know, a little bit. Baptism by fire, to our student ministry, to our leaders, to me, as the youth pastor.

00:02:06:13 - 00:02:28:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And but it does really help, in my mind, help solidify their involvement, and their excitement around student ministry. Now, what are the cons, however, of if you promote at the beginning of the summer, some of the cons I would say are that it is a weird programing time for a lot of youth ministries. Your school year, youth ministry programing is pretty down.

00:02:28:05 - 00:02:51:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's pretty locked in. Summer ends up being weird. You take a lot more breaks. You have a lot more. Maybe have a skeleton program. You maybe don't even meet, like, at all. And so to promote at the beginning of the summer and then introduce your sixth graders into, like, a little bit more of a weird and kind of nebulous time on the calendar, I think can be a little bit tricky, especially with solidifying their involvement and regularity.

00:02:51:05 - 00:03:14:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so maybe, yes, I did get to go to camp, but then they came back from camp. And what are you doing in your youth ministry that they can grab on to you and that they can attach on to in their first few weeks and first few months of being involved in youth ministry? And one of the reasons for that weird and kind of nebulous programing is this other common, is that it is a vacation time for a lot of families.

00:03:14:01 - 00:03:31:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so while it may be best and most advantageous for you to promote at the beginning of the summer, those students are promoted, but then they go on vacation with their families, and maybe they're not on vacation all summer. They're gone for a week, but they come back, and then their friend is also gone on vacation and, it's staggered.

00:03:31:28 - 00:03:53:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then that friend comes back, and then the third friend is on vacation, and then the first friend is that they're like, you know, horseback riding camp or whatever. And so students are all over the place in the summer. And so a kind of promoting in the summer is you lose the optionality for just regular kind of consistent attendance and regular and kind of consistent programing, you know, for your students.

00:03:53:20 - 00:04:12:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So then on the flip side, if you're like, okay, yeah, you're right. Those are some disadvantages for sure. Maybe we should consider promoting at the end of summer. Let's talk a little bit about what the pros and the cons are about promoting at the end of summer. So a pro would be is that students do enter into your programing now.

00:04:12:13 - 00:04:48:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what I would say is peak programing time for most youth ministries in the world. And so the important thing that we need to understand is that most student ministries have a solid, like, you know, post Labor Day to Memorial Day calendar of student ministry. And so if you want to give them your like best version of programing, put your best foot forward, it might be most advantageous for your students to step into your most well done, most fully hatched student ministry programing, which is going to take place at the end of summer rather than the beginning of summer.

00:04:48:02 - 00:05:13:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The other pro is that they are a few months older and they are now in middle school. You got to think if you promoted the beginning of summer, they've just been in elementary school and now they're stepping into middle school version of programing, but they've never actually been in middle school. And so you'll have them for three months with an elementary school mindset rather than a more middle school mindset.

00:05:13:21 - 00:05:35:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so those three months, you might not think they're big deal, but from a, just development and from a maturity standpoint, those three months do make a major difference. And you probably have heard this before, but a kid develops the most from the ages of 0 to 3. And then the second period of time where they develop the most is from sixth grade to eighth grade.

00:05:35:15 - 00:05:54:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so there's going to be a lot of development happening in your sixth graders. And then if you know, if you promote in seventh grade, also that seventh grade level as well, they're right square in the middle of that second most major developmental three year run that they're ever going to experience in their entire life. And so a pro could just be that maturity piece.

00:05:54:02 - 00:06:19:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're able to sit a little bit longer in chairs. They're able to, experience more of a youth ministry setting rather than just simply an elementary setting. What are some of the cons of promoting maybe at the end of school year? You know, this is maybe one of my biggest cons in this entire list is that when you are done with school, the last day of school, whatever grade you're in, what do you tell everyone that very moment that you step out of the school into your parents car?

00:06:19:20 - 00:06:38:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or the very next time someone asks you what grade you're in, you don't say, if you left fifth grade, you don't say, I'm in fifth grade. No, you say you're in sixth grade. And so if that church you're not allowing them to move up when they're emotionally moving up. I think that's a tough sell for a lot of kids in that age group.

00:06:38:13 - 00:07:00:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're ready to move on to what's next. And so to hold them back for all of June, all of July and all of August, that in my opinion, that can be a little bit tough. In the same way that there's a lot of kind of tough moments and tough decisions to make when making this decision. But I think one of the toughest ones for the actual student is going to be the fact that they're not able to move up when mentally they've graduated.

00:07:00:07 - 00:07:18:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right? We all the graduation has happened in May, and then to hold back on the church graduation until the end of summer, that just really doesn't fall into alignment with the way that their life, you know, is working at the time. And then the last con here about promoting at the end of summer is very simply, they can't come with to camp.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you choose to hold them back, you do rule them out of that ability of being able to go with you to summer camp. And if that's a value of yours, if you want to help integrate new students, if you want to help give students, the the best week that your student ministry has to offer in most cases is a week of summer camp.

00:07:36:22 - 00:08:03:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They don't get to experience that until a full calendar year later. And maybe there's some value in waiting and, you know, looking ahead to, and being excited about camp, but maybe there's, a little bit of a loss there as well. And just the fact that, like, they're brand new customer, so to speak, of your student ministry and what you have to offer, and they're not allowed to go with to camp, that might just be a little bit of a bummer.

00:08:03:00 - 00:08:45:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you may miss an opportunity to kind of grab some momentum and ride it, into the school year. So everyone, this episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created in my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So every single time I create a resource that's just through my Patreon that costs money for people who want to go on to my shop and buy something, you get it for free as a patron member, plus a weekly bonus podcast where I talk about what I do on social media every week. I talk about what I do in my programing every week to try and keep it creative and hybrid, and how we're using sidekick over there.

00:09:09:28 - 00:09:28:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out.

00:09:28:18 - 00:09:47:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below in the description where it says Become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. With all those things being said, regardless of where you're promoting, regardless of if you're beginning of summer, regardless of if you're end of summer, I do have five amazing.

00:09:47:20 - 00:10:17:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
An incredible tips that you can implement right now. Because here's the fact when this video drops, you've probably made your be for summer or end of summer decision. But these five tips, they can be implemented by you right now regardless of what decisions have been made. So tip number one is, in light of all the pros and light of all the cons, regardless of where you land on that decision, if as we laid those out, you maybe were even swayed from like I was an end of summer guy, now I'm a beginning of summer guy, or vice versa.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This tip is the most important tip of all the tips. Make sure that your grade promotion is in alignment with the rest of your church. And what I mean by that is you can't have your kids ministry promoting from kindergarten to first grade, from first grade to second grade and all the way through at like, say at the beginning of summer.

00:10:36:01 - 00:10:57:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you hold until the end of summer, even if you personally are in a disagreeing state with the rest of the way, your church, especially your elementary maybe your college ministry is promoting your most important value in this is alignment with the church from top to bottom. And so, you need to make sure that you're on the same page with your kids ministry.

00:10:57:29 - 00:11:15:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You need to make sure you're on the same page with your collegiate minister so that you guys all together collectively have one big day where everyone promotes up. That's also going to make things that you might not, might not care about quite as much, like database. And like those types things all of those promote at the exact same time.

00:11:15:11 - 00:11:44:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it would be confusing if elementary and college promoted at one time and student ministry held back and promoted at another time. And so just make sure you're in alignment. And if you know your kids ministry makes a decision that you're not much of a fan of, I would I would argue that's important to either a, give in caved in to their decision, or b find a way to get on the same page so that you can collectively walk out arm's length as a church unified that says, hey, this is what we as a church are doing.

00:11:44:14 - 00:12:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That is, in my opinion, the most important thing in all of this, regardless of where you land, as far as a decision, that individual decision is made. Tip number two is that you should host a parent meeting and subsequent tours in said meeting. Now, you'll never you'll never have better attendance for a meeting than when you're bringing a fifth grader into sixth grade or a sixth grader into seventh grade.

00:12:10:16 - 00:12:37:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, in a recent episode that I had about ten tips with partnering with parents, which was a fantastic episode with my friend Josh Bowman linked right here at the top of the YouTube screen, we discussed how meetings are difficult for attendance for parents, and quite honestly, not the most effective use of your time. However, if you are going to have a meeting, if you are going to catch a wave, and if you are going to have a decent attendance for something, it is going to be during this transition.

00:12:37:01 - 00:13:06:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So host it, put your best foot forward, bring out all of the stops, give those parents a tour of your space so that they know exactly what there is to expect in student ministry, and that they'll feel comfortable handing their kid off from elementary. Which, you got to think about this parents have had their kids in the exact same ministry now for that kid's entire life, and now they're being asked to trust a completely new person, a stranger.

00:13:06:21 - 00:13:26:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's you and your ministry. And so make sure that you roll out the red carpet. You may not get 100% attendance, but just know this if you don't get 100% attendance, that means the people that don't attend, they probably trust you. And if they don't attend and they don't trust you, it probably just means they couldn't make it for one reason or another.

00:13:26:26 - 00:13:43:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so host that meeting and let me give you a little bonus. Pro tip from the hybrid Ministry show. Find a way to record it. Capture the audio out of your soundboard and send out the audio, podcast later. Throw a video in the back of the room so that you can link to audio in the video.

00:13:43:06 - 00:14:07:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or just like voice memo, your phone from where you're talking at the front of the room, and send that audio out later, even if it's rough and dirty. But get that in the hands of your parents, especially the ones who don't make it. Now, tip number three is find a way to celebrate those sixth graders or seventh graders arrival.

00:14:07:14 - 00:14:31:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give them swag. Create a spirit tunnel. They're the VIPs for the day. And the fact is, in our culture and in our world, that's the exact opposite. When a new grade comes into middle school or junior high, they're not the VIPs. They're the low people on the totem pole. And while they are the lowest on the totem pole from a factual standpoint at church that should be flipped on its head.

00:14:31:28 - 00:14:55:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last shall be first and the first shall be last. And so therefore, let's make our new incoming grade. Let's make them feel like a million bucks. Tip number four is make sure that your parent section on your website, your overall website, your social media, make sure all of that is up to date. You have a whole new crop of eyes looking at your website, looking at your social media, you know?

00:14:55:21 - 00:15:29:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below. I have an entire four part playlist on the importance of communication in church, and especially the importance of an up dated website that is very simply the most basic step in all of hybrid ministry and all of social media ministry. Your website needs to be your backstop and your landing spot. That is what allows you to stop promoting on your social media, because your website can handle the information and the the the the disseminating of the actual data that the people are looking for.

00:15:29:09 - 00:15:57:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it you can't do that on social media if your website is not up to date. And when you have a brand new wave of parents in a brand new wave of students, it's important, just like you're programing, to also online put your best foot forward, and that includes making sure that your website is up to date and your social media looks the way that you would want a brand new parent who might be freaked out about sending their kid from elementary into middle school to look at your website like, oh yeah, I can trust this person.

00:15:57:16 - 00:16:32:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the fifth and final tip is perhaps consider creating their own week for them. So in our current context, when our, VBS is going on church wide for all the elementary age kids, we are offering a very custom specific fifth grade into sixth grade only week. And it is basically their own version of VBS. And so because of that week, we don't actually let our sixth graders come with us to camp, which is a deviation from my strategy as a 14 year plus youth ministry veteran.

00:16:32:26 - 00:16:48:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But because we offer this week, it allows them to have that same momentum that a week of camp would allow them to do without bringing such a young kid on an overnight camp. And so it allows them to have a full year in our ministry before they do ever go to camp. But it's not that they get nothing.

00:16:48:09 - 00:17:07:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They get their very own week. They're the only grade in the entire church that gets their own specific custom, laser focused week. And so it's a week for fifth graders into sixth graders and our church is called Cross Creek Church. And so we call it Cross the Creek Week. And it's the week where those kids come across the creek.

00:17:07:00 - 00:17:36:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We have a creek, physical creek on our campus, and the kids building is on one side of the creek. And the student building is on the other side of the creek, and we deck it out. I mean, we go all in and it is a loud it is a space already week. I mean, those kids are wild and crazy, but it is an amazing week for them to connect with us as the only time that an entire grade gets an entire focus with the students, staff, student residents, student volunteers and we pull out all of the stops.

00:17:36:03 - 00:18:11:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you have the bandwidth, the capacity, the volunteer man hours, the space on your calendar in and around your camps and your mission trips to create a custom week, it's just, morning, 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. for fifth graders. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday during our our work week at church for those kids to experience everything that student ministry has to offer, it feels like VBS from a schedule standpoint, but it feels so student ministry from an actual programing standpoint.

00:18:11:08 - 00:18:39:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's a way to kind of marry those two weeks and create an amazing promote, time for those fifth graders. And so if you have the capacity or the bandwidth and you this one, I will say you may not be able to pull out this year, but but perhaps put it in the back of your mind and consider pulling it out next year as an opportunity to really enhance and uptake that, grade promotion for those, elementary students coming on in to your student ministry.

00:18:39:17 - 00:18:52:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, hey, friends, I hope you enjoyed this episode. As always, I would love a subscribe. It's free on your end and it really would make the world of difference on ours. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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I want to encourage you in this video, we're going to explore the pros of keeping your programing going and contrast it with the cons of what it would look like if you chose to take a little bit of a break. 00:00:22:12 - 00:00:43:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Make sure that you stick around for the entire video, because at the end, I have a hundred social media ideas for you to go ahead and take and adopt in your ministry, especially if we choose to hit pause as well as three tips for an amazing summer, regardless of the decision that you choose. Don't forget to subscribe so that you don't miss a single one of our episodes. 00:00:43:08 - 00:01:04:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, as we are leading into summer and during the entire course of the summer, and as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can hop ahead to the part of the show that makes the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Minister Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Minister Show. In this episode, we're going to compare and contrast summer programing versus taking a break. 00:01:04:08 - 00:01:27:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's not waste any time. What are the pros of staying engaged with having summer programing in your youth ministry? Well, the first pro I would say is that students, sports schedules and students extracurricular vehicular activities tend to take a little bit more of a dip. And so historically, youth ministries have been going strong through the summer. And I'm sorry if they've been going strong through the school year. 00:01:27:23 - 00:01:48:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then they take a break during the summer, they match the students schedules. So while students are going strong during the school year, we're going strong during the school year when students tend to take a dip. We would also take a dip. And I think it's worthwhile to consider while student schedules take a little bit of a dip, what if our programing ramps up or at least doesn't go anywhere? 00:01:48:10 - 00:02:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Why? Because you may or may not have some students who are so busy during the school year that they're just simply not able to make a Wednesday night or Sunday night. But you have in programing, you do have an opportunity to now catch them when their schedule does tend to take a break. I remember one time, it was the very first week of our summer schedule, and it was the first time that I ever chose to stay to stay engaged during the summer. 00:02:10:23 - 00:02:31:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I looked out across the audience and I saw a student who I hadn't seen for the entire time of my duration and my tenure as a youth pastor at that church. And I had messaged with her mom, and her mom was lamenting the fact that, you know, her dance schedule didn't line up with what our student ministry was, and our student sister had just made a change from Wednesday to Sunday. 00:02:31:01 - 00:02:47:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And at that same time, when our student ministry made that change, her dance schedule also made that exact same change. And so she was so bummed out that we shifted from Wednesday to Sunday because her dance schedule had just shifted from Wednesday to Sunday. So she missed literally the entire school year. But I looked out and boom, there she was. 00:02:47:20 - 00:03:08:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I was like, man, had we not chosen to meet, she still wouldn't have been there. And so I know that you as a youth pastor, you have a heart to reach and capture your students. And so staying engaged in your programing during the summer can offer and allow you to have that sort of opportunity. The other thing that summer programing does is, honestly, it gives you a chance to try out some creative ideas. 00:03:08:28 - 00:03:28:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, if you didn't know this, I have a, Patreon account where I, weekly share what we're doing in our youth ministry. And it's just $4 a month, which is $1 per episode, where I detail and breakdown everything I'm doing to be creative and stay hybrid. And so this summer, I'm going to be taking you along on that journey. 00:03:28:05 - 00:03:51:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I would love to encourage you if you're one that wants to increase your creativity in your youth ministry, lean into your social media and your digital presence. Come hang out with us over on Patreon, and we're going to be giving that out $1 per week for, the bonus podcast episodes. But it gives you a chance to to be a little bit creative, to try something different that maybe, I don't know, before wouldn't have worked on. 00:03:51:11 - 00:04:26:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created, and my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month. 00:04:26:20 - 00:04:50:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So every single time I create a resource that's just through my Patreon that costs money for people who want to go on to my shop and buy something, you get it for free as a patron member, plus a weekly bonus podcast where I talk about what I do on social media every week. I talk about what I do in my programing every week to try and keep it creative and hybrid, and how we're using sidekick over there. 00:04:51:01 - 00:05:09:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out. 00:05:09:21 - 00:05:29:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Link down below in the description where it says become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. All right, so what are the cons? Well, the cons are of course, that you don't get a break in your programing. If you go straight into your school, you're programing into your summer programing. 00:05:29:20 - 00:05:50:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You don't get any little bit of a rest. And, additionally speaking, neither do your leaders. And so that, of course, is the con. And that's probably one of the major players in this decision is you've been working hard all September, from September through May all school year. And, and you're maybe looking forward to getting a little bit of a break, maybe a little bit of a breather. 00:05:50:11 - 00:06:14:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, staying strong with your programing throughout the summer doesn't really give you that option. And in addition to that, because school year and, like fall based launches and the start, you know, post Labor Day and welcome back and back to school Sunday and all the things that go along with traditional church ministry, especially as it pertains to launching strong and launching hard in the fall. 00:06:14:29 - 00:06:31:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You might need to be recruiting leaders. Not taking a break over the summer may not give you as much space to retool and get ready to launch strong in the fall. Or at least that may be some of what you're thinking and some of what, you know, you, you kind of have going on in, in your mind there. 00:06:31:14 - 00:06:52:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, I just want to encourage you, like, as you're kind of debating through this, like if your priority is having a strong, school year based student ministry, end of summer Rob's from that. I can imagine where that might be a con. Let let's take a look then, here at some of the pros and the cons of, choosing to take a break during the summer. 00:06:52:26 - 00:07:11:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So the pros are that if you do feel like you're running just so hard and so fast and so strong, all during the school year, the summer definitely does offer a little bit of a reprieve. You know, burnout is real among youth pastors. Shout out to my friend dairy. Link down below or right here on YouTube at the top of the screen. 00:07:12:03 - 00:07:48:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On my episode with him where I interviewed, how does he avoid burnout? It is a fantastic episode, and what I'll just say is, if taking time off during the summer is a way to help you avoid, burning out, then it's more advantageous to not meet during the summer so that you can tend to your soul. But I would just say, maybe it's worthwhile to go take a look at that episode from Derry and see if during this next school year, if there are some practices and some principles that he laid out, that you can actually apply so that when next summer rolls around, if you are considering maybe, not breaking for 00:07:48:00 - 00:08:07:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry your programing as opposed to breaking that, you won't be so tired and so burnout by the time you get on the doorstep of summer. So that you can maybe show up for your students. Another pro, of course, is that you do give an opportunity to give your leaders a break. So if you you know how important it is to lean on leaders. 00:08:07:27 - 00:08:24:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And leaders really are the backbone of student ministry. If you, don't meet during the summer, obviously you don't need your leaders to be there. If you do meet during the summer, you kind of need your leaders to show up, you know what I'm saying? So, that that is one of the pros of choosing to take a break during the summer. 00:08:24:00 - 00:08:50:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The cons, of course, are like, just think about this. Do you really want to go three months without meeting, like, just like basketball? Student ministry is a momentum game. And so, taking three months off, especially when you probably got, a high level, high flying thing, like camp or a mission trip, woven throughout the programing of your summer to just do that and then come back and not have anything for several months. 00:08:51:01 - 00:09:17:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, that's really a con that is worth considering. Like, do you really want to come back and then just be like, all right, see you guys after Labor Day? Like for me personally, that feels like a little bit long and a little bit of an arduous, break. The other thing, of course, is that you're not meeting during summer students most available seasons is the pro, to the reason why you maybe should consider keeping summer programing going. 00:09:17:08 - 00:09:38:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so those are both sides. You can probably tell that objectively speaking, we do choose to meet during the summer. We retool, we scale it back. We we're very creative. We do things that are very different. And so let me just give you three tips, regardless of which decision you're going to, land on which which camp you fallen for this debate. 00:09:38:23 - 00:10:00:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Three tips to help you program amazing things, or at least, do amazing youth ministry during the summer, whether you're meeting or not. So tip number one is follow your church's guide. If you have regular, say, midweek or regular Sunday night activities, church wide kids, ministry ministries, all the things and they take a break, then perhaps consider also taking a break. 00:10:00:21 - 00:10:18:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If if you're the only group that meets on campus when you meet, then that's not as big of a deal. But but consider following your church's lead. However, unlike the last video in this playlist where I talked about the importance of following your church's lead as a as it pertains to promotion, that's like a level like, absolutely. 00:10:18:06 - 00:10:43:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Do not deviate from your church's plan on this one. I would say I think things can be a little bit different because while some of the offerings for Kids Ministry and some of the offerings for adult ministry may be a little more elective based or a little more optional, if this is your main meeting time, then if you do choose to meet during the summer while the rest of your church takes time off, then stand strong on that and and communicate the importance of meeting when students are more available. 00:10:43:28 - 00:11:11:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Again, you don't have to do as wholesale or full scale of a programing. You can scale it back, you can throw some creative options. Again, I'm going to give you some of those and some of what we're doing, in our student ministry. But you can you can kind of pull back the, the, the programing, intensity a little bit so that you can have some fun and just make it a little bit more of a casual hangout, but the tip is, if you're sure you like, follow, follow your church's lead. 00:11:11:01 - 00:11:27:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you're unsure which direction to lean on this debate. The second tip I have for you is if you do take a break, and even if you don't, but if you definitely if you do lean in harder than on social media, because you may not be meeting on a Wednesday night or a Sunday night or whatever night you choose to meet, so you have more time in the office. 00:11:27:10 - 00:11:48:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So lean harder into social media, which is linked down below. The freebie tease at the beginning of the video. A hundred different topic ideas for you, for different concepts that, you can use on social media. So for us, I have a four part social media, strategy and social challenge guide, a whole playlist detailed for free, listed down below in the description. 00:11:48:25 - 00:12:08:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Go check that out one episode per video, but this freebie gives you 100 different topic ideas to help you lean into some of the creativity and some of the social media, ideas. And then you can continue to kind of show up where your students are, even if you choose not to meet. And then the third and final idea is just simply this it's summer, man. 00:12:08:15 - 00:12:26:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Have fun. Like if you do choose to meet, have fun while you do. If you don't have fun, do it on social media. Have a blast with your students creating content both for them and also consider doing it with them. And the thing about summer that's so fun. And one of the things that we do is we try to kind of ride the National Day trend. 00:12:26:10 - 00:12:46:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you didn't know there is a National day every single day, multiple national days. So this summer, for example, we're choosing like, beautiful Grandparent Day where we're going to play Extreme Bingo, and National Cheesecake Day is going to round out our summer, you know, programing. And and Leon Day, which is, June 25th. It is the, backwards. 00:12:46:24 - 00:13:08:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, Leon spelled backwards is Noel. So June 25th is when crafters start getting their Christmas supplies out. Last summer we did like National Avocado Day, and we celebrated some holidays like that. And so there's always an option of a thing that you can just kind of trend. 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00:00 Youth Ministry in the Summer?
00:56 PROS: Meeting in the Summer
03:50 Lock in Your Social Media this Summer!
05:18 CONS: Meeting in the Summer
06:45 PROS: Taking a Summer Programming Break
08:24 CONS: Taking a Summer Programming Break
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:22:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Summer is coming, whether you like it or not, and youth pastors everywhere are trying to decide whether they should hit pause on their programing or whether they should keep going strong. I want to encourage you in this video, we're going to explore the pros of keeping your programing going and contrast it with the cons of what it would look like if you chose to take a little bit of a break.

00:00:22:12 - 00:00:43:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure that you stick around for the entire video, because at the end, I have a hundred social media ideas for you to go ahead and take and adopt in your ministry, especially if we choose to hit pause as well as three tips for an amazing summer, regardless of the decision that you choose. Don't forget to subscribe so that you don't miss a single one of our episodes.

00:00:43:08 - 00:01:04:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, as we are leading into summer and during the entire course of the summer, and as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can hop ahead to the part of the show that makes the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Minister Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Minister Show. In this episode, we're going to compare and contrast summer programing versus taking a break.

00:01:04:08 - 00:01:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's not waste any time. What are the pros of staying engaged with having summer programing in your youth ministry? Well, the first pro I would say is that students, sports schedules and students extracurricular vehicular activities tend to take a little bit more of a dip. And so historically, youth ministries have been going strong through the summer. And I'm sorry if they've been going strong through the school year.

00:01:27:23 - 00:01:48:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then they take a break during the summer, they match the students schedules. So while students are going strong during the school year, we're going strong during the school year when students tend to take a dip. We would also take a dip. And I think it's worthwhile to consider while student schedules take a little bit of a dip, what if our programing ramps up or at least doesn't go anywhere?

00:01:48:10 - 00:02:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Why? Because you may or may not have some students who are so busy during the school year that they're just simply not able to make a Wednesday night or Sunday night. But you have in programing, you do have an opportunity to now catch them when their schedule does tend to take a break. I remember one time, it was the very first week of our summer schedule, and it was the first time that I ever chose to stay to stay engaged during the summer.

00:02:10:23 - 00:02:31:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I looked out across the audience and I saw a student who I hadn't seen for the entire time of my duration and my tenure as a youth pastor at that church. And I had messaged with her mom, and her mom was lamenting the fact that, you know, her dance schedule didn't line up with what our student ministry was, and our student sister had just made a change from Wednesday to Sunday.

00:02:31:01 - 00:02:47:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And at that same time, when our student ministry made that change, her dance schedule also made that exact same change. And so she was so bummed out that we shifted from Wednesday to Sunday because her dance schedule had just shifted from Wednesday to Sunday. So she missed literally the entire school year. But I looked out and boom, there she was.

00:02:47:20 - 00:03:08:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I was like, man, had we not chosen to meet, she still wouldn't have been there. And so I know that you as a youth pastor, you have a heart to reach and capture your students. And so staying engaged in your programing during the summer can offer and allow you to have that sort of opportunity. The other thing that summer programing does is, honestly, it gives you a chance to try out some creative ideas.

00:03:08:28 - 00:03:28:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, if you didn't know this, I have a, Patreon account where I, weekly share what we're doing in our youth ministry. And it's just $4 a month, which is $1 per episode, where I detail and breakdown everything I'm doing to be creative and stay hybrid. And so this summer, I'm going to be taking you along on that journey.

00:03:28:05 - 00:03:51:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I would love to encourage you if you're one that wants to increase your creativity in your youth ministry, lean into your social media and your digital presence. Come hang out with us over on Patreon, and we're going to be giving that out $1 per week for, the bonus podcast episodes. But it gives you a chance to to be a little bit creative, to try something different that maybe, I don't know, before wouldn't have worked on.

00:03:51:11 - 00:04:26:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created, and my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month.

00:04:26:20 - 00:04:50:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So every single time I create a resource that's just through my Patreon that costs money for people who want to go on to my shop and buy something, you get it for free as a patron member, plus a weekly bonus podcast where I talk about what I do on social media every week. I talk about what I do in my programing every week to try and keep it creative and hybrid, and how we're using sidekick over there.

00:04:51:01 - 00:05:09:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out.

00:05:09:21 - 00:05:29:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below in the description where it says become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. All right, so what are the cons? Well, the cons are of course, that you don't get a break in your programing. If you go straight into your school, you're programing into your summer programing.

00:05:29:20 - 00:05:50:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You don't get any little bit of a rest. And, additionally speaking, neither do your leaders. And so that, of course, is the con. And that's probably one of the major players in this decision is you've been working hard all September, from September through May all school year. And, and you're maybe looking forward to getting a little bit of a break, maybe a little bit of a breather.

00:05:50:11 - 00:06:14:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, staying strong with your programing throughout the summer doesn't really give you that option. And in addition to that, because school year and, like fall based launches and the start, you know, post Labor Day and welcome back and back to school Sunday and all the things that go along with traditional church ministry, especially as it pertains to launching strong and launching hard in the fall.

00:06:14:29 - 00:06:31:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You might need to be recruiting leaders. Not taking a break over the summer may not give you as much space to retool and get ready to launch strong in the fall. Or at least that may be some of what you're thinking and some of what, you know, you, you kind of have going on in, in your mind there.

00:06:31:14 - 00:06:52:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I just want to encourage you, like, as you're kind of debating through this, like if your priority is having a strong, school year based student ministry, end of summer Rob's from that. I can imagine where that might be a con. Let let's take a look then, here at some of the pros and the cons of, choosing to take a break during the summer.

00:06:52:26 - 00:07:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the pros are that if you do feel like you're running just so hard and so fast and so strong, all during the school year, the summer definitely does offer a little bit of a reprieve. You know, burnout is real among youth pastors. Shout out to my friend dairy. Link down below or right here on YouTube at the top of the screen.

00:07:12:03 - 00:07:48:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On my episode with him where I interviewed, how does he avoid burnout? It is a fantastic episode, and what I'll just say is, if taking time off during the summer is a way to help you avoid, burning out, then it's more advantageous to not meet during the summer so that you can tend to your soul. But I would just say, maybe it's worthwhile to go take a look at that episode from Derry and see if during this next school year, if there are some practices and some principles that he laid out, that you can actually apply so that when next summer rolls around, if you are considering maybe, not breaking for

00:07:48:00 - 00:08:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
your programing as opposed to breaking that, you won't be so tired and so burnout by the time you get on the doorstep of summer. So that you can maybe show up for your students. Another pro, of course, is that you do give an opportunity to give your leaders a break. So if you you know how important it is to lean on leaders.

00:08:07:27 - 00:08:24:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And leaders really are the backbone of student ministry. If you, don't meet during the summer, obviously you don't need your leaders to be there. If you do meet during the summer, you kind of need your leaders to show up, you know what I'm saying? So, that that is one of the pros of choosing to take a break during the summer.

00:08:24:00 - 00:08:50:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The cons, of course, are like, just think about this. Do you really want to go three months without meeting, like, just like basketball? Student ministry is a momentum game. And so, taking three months off, especially when you probably got, a high level, high flying thing, like camp or a mission trip, woven throughout the programing of your summer to just do that and then come back and not have anything for several months.

00:08:51:01 - 00:09:17:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, that's really a con that is worth considering. Like, do you really want to come back and then just be like, all right, see you guys after Labor Day? Like for me personally, that feels like a little bit long and a little bit of an arduous, break. The other thing, of course, is that you're not meeting during summer students most available seasons is the pro, to the reason why you maybe should consider keeping summer programing going.

00:09:17:08 - 00:09:38:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so those are both sides. You can probably tell that objectively speaking, we do choose to meet during the summer. We retool, we scale it back. We we're very creative. We do things that are very different. And so let me just give you three tips, regardless of which decision you're going to, land on which which camp you fallen for this debate.

00:09:38:23 - 00:10:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Three tips to help you program amazing things, or at least, do amazing youth ministry during the summer, whether you're meeting or not. So tip number one is follow your church's guide. If you have regular, say, midweek or regular Sunday night activities, church wide kids, ministry ministries, all the things and they take a break, then perhaps consider also taking a break.

00:10:00:21 - 00:10:18:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If if you're the only group that meets on campus when you meet, then that's not as big of a deal. But but consider following your church's lead. However, unlike the last video in this playlist where I talked about the importance of following your church's lead as a as it pertains to promotion, that's like a level like, absolutely.

00:10:18:06 - 00:10:43:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do not deviate from your church's plan on this one. I would say I think things can be a little bit different because while some of the offerings for Kids Ministry and some of the offerings for adult ministry may be a little more elective based or a little more optional, if this is your main meeting time, then if you do choose to meet during the summer while the rest of your church takes time off, then stand strong on that and and communicate the importance of meeting when students are more available.

00:10:43:28 - 00:11:11:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Again, you don't have to do as wholesale or full scale of a programing. You can scale it back, you can throw some creative options. Again, I'm going to give you some of those and some of what we're doing, in our student ministry. But you can you can kind of pull back the, the, the programing, intensity a little bit so that you can have some fun and just make it a little bit more of a casual hangout, but the tip is, if you're sure you like, follow, follow your church's lead.

00:11:11:01 - 00:11:27:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're unsure which direction to lean on this debate. The second tip I have for you is if you do take a break, and even if you don't, but if you definitely if you do lean in harder than on social media, because you may not be meeting on a Wednesday night or a Sunday night or whatever night you choose to meet, so you have more time in the office.

00:11:27:10 - 00:11:48:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So lean harder into social media, which is linked down below. The freebie tease at the beginning of the video. A hundred different topic ideas for you, for different concepts that, you can use on social media. So for us, I have a four part social media, strategy and social challenge guide, a whole playlist detailed for free, listed down below in the description.

00:11:48:25 - 00:12:08:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Go check that out one episode per video, but this freebie gives you 100 different topic ideas to help you lean into some of the creativity and some of the social media, ideas. And then you can continue to kind of show up where your students are, even if you choose not to meet. And then the third and final idea is just simply this it's summer, man.

00:12:08:15 - 00:12:26:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Have fun. Like if you do choose to meet, have fun while you do. If you don't have fun, do it on social media. Have a blast with your students creating content both for them and also consider doing it with them. And the thing about summer that's so fun. And one of the things that we do is we try to kind of ride the National Day trend.

00:12:26:10 - 00:12:46:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you didn't know there is a National day every single day, multiple national days. So this summer, for example, we're choosing like, beautiful Grandparent Day where we're going to play Extreme Bingo, and National Cheesecake Day is going to round out our summer, you know, programing. And and Leon Day, which is, June 25th. It is the, backwards.

00:12:46:24 - 00:13:08:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, Leon spelled backwards is Noel. So June 25th is when crafters start getting their Christmas supplies out. Last summer we did like National Avocado Day, and we celebrated some holidays like that. And so there's always an option of a thing that you can just kind of trend. So if we don't, we don't female our midweek throughout the, the the regular school year.

00:13:08:00 - 00:13:26:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But during the summer we do we kind of have fun with it. It also is a fun way to kind of create some social media content around it. We'll go around, interview people and ask them, you know, things about each of those topics or whatever, and kind of do a man on the street style video and again, some of that is detailed in that line down below in that 100 free thing.

00:13:26:15 - 00:13:47:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So go ahead and and grab that freebie so that you don't neglect in that you don't avoid social media this summer. Hey, everyone. Coming up in the next episode is the fourth and final installment of this versus playlist, where we're going to be looking at digital ministry versus in-person ministry. And if you're watching this, after its release, it's going to be linked right here on the screen.

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00:56 PROS: Meeting in the Summer
03:50 Lock in Your Social Media this Summer!
05:18 CONS: Meeting in the Summer
06:45 PROS: Taking a Summer Programming Break
08:24 CONS: Taking a Summer Programming Break
09:32 Tip #1
11:13 Tip #2
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:22:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Summer is coming, whether you like it or not, and youth pastors everywhere are trying to decide whether they should hit pause on their programing or whether they should keep going strong. I want to encourage you in this video, we're going to explore the pros of keeping your programing going and contrast it with the cons of what it would look like if you chose to take a little bit of a break.

00:00:22:12 - 00:00:43:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure that you stick around for the entire video, because at the end, I have a hundred social media ideas for you to go ahead and take and adopt in your ministry, especially if we choose to hit pause as well as three tips for an amazing summer, regardless of the decision that you choose. Don't forget to subscribe so that you don't miss a single one of our episodes.

00:00:43:08 - 00:01:04:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, as we are leading into summer and during the entire course of the summer, and as always, there are chapters listed down below so that you can hop ahead to the part of the show that makes the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Minister Show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Minister Show. In this episode, we're going to compare and contrast summer programing versus taking a break.

00:01:04:08 - 00:01:27:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's not waste any time. What are the pros of staying engaged with having summer programing in your youth ministry? Well, the first pro I would say is that students, sports schedules and students extracurricular vehicular activities tend to take a little bit more of a dip. And so historically, youth ministries have been going strong through the summer. And I'm sorry if they've been going strong through the school year.

00:01:27:23 - 00:01:48:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then they take a break during the summer, they match the students schedules. So while students are going strong during the school year, we're going strong during the school year when students tend to take a dip. We would also take a dip. And I think it's worthwhile to consider while student schedules take a little bit of a dip, what if our programing ramps up or at least doesn't go anywhere?

00:01:48:10 - 00:02:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Why? Because you may or may not have some students who are so busy during the school year that they're just simply not able to make a Wednesday night or Sunday night. But you have in programing, you do have an opportunity to now catch them when their schedule does tend to take a break. I remember one time, it was the very first week of our summer schedule, and it was the first time that I ever chose to stay to stay engaged during the summer.

00:02:10:23 - 00:02:31:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I looked out across the audience and I saw a student who I hadn't seen for the entire time of my duration and my tenure as a youth pastor at that church. And I had messaged with her mom, and her mom was lamenting the fact that, you know, her dance schedule didn't line up with what our student ministry was, and our student sister had just made a change from Wednesday to Sunday.

00:02:31:01 - 00:02:47:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And at that same time, when our student ministry made that change, her dance schedule also made that exact same change. And so she was so bummed out that we shifted from Wednesday to Sunday because her dance schedule had just shifted from Wednesday to Sunday. So she missed literally the entire school year. But I looked out and boom, there she was.

00:02:47:20 - 00:03:08:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I was like, man, had we not chosen to meet, she still wouldn't have been there. And so I know that you as a youth pastor, you have a heart to reach and capture your students. And so staying engaged in your programing during the summer can offer and allow you to have that sort of opportunity. The other thing that summer programing does is, honestly, it gives you a chance to try out some creative ideas.

00:03:08:28 - 00:03:28:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, if you didn't know this, I have a, Patreon account where I, weekly share what we're doing in our youth ministry. And it's just $4 a month, which is $1 per episode, where I detail and breakdown everything I'm doing to be creative and stay hybrid. And so this summer, I'm going to be taking you along on that journey.

00:03:28:05 - 00:03:51:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I would love to encourage you if you're one that wants to increase your creativity in your youth ministry, lean into your social media and your digital presence. Come hang out with us over on Patreon, and we're going to be giving that out $1 per week for, the bonus podcast episodes. But it gives you a chance to to be a little bit creative, to try something different that maybe, I don't know, before wouldn't have worked on.

00:03:51:11 - 00:04:26:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This episode is actually brought to you by my very own Patreon. The Patreon is my bonus podcast community, and I call those people over there who are subscribers. They're my hybrid heroes, and what we do over on my Patreon is a every single resource that I've created, and my shop is free for all Patreon members, along with a weekly bonus podcast episode and the cost right now to join my Patreon, I may go up, but right now legacy members can get it for $4 a month.

00:04:26:20 - 00:04:50:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So every single time I create a resource that's just through my Patreon that costs money for people who want to go on to my shop and buy something, you get it for free as a patron member, plus a weekly bonus podcast where I talk about what I do on social media every week. I talk about what I do in my programing every week to try and keep it creative and hybrid, and how we're using sidekick over there.

00:04:51:01 - 00:05:09:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, this week I talk, for example, about how I didn't even have a tech person to run Pro presenter. I ran a game from the stage on my computer with name picker on sidekick by myself on my computer. It's amazing. I'll tell you how I do all that type of stuff on my Patreon, so go check it out.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Link down below in the description where it says become a Hybrid Hero. Click that link and check it out. Hey, you get a free week trial if you're interested in it. Back to the show. All right, so what are the cons? Well, the cons are of course, that you don't get a break in your programing. If you go straight into your school, you're programing into your summer programing.

00:05:29:20 - 00:05:50:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You don't get any little bit of a rest. And, additionally speaking, neither do your leaders. And so that, of course, is the con. And that's probably one of the major players in this decision is you've been working hard all September, from September through May all school year. And, and you're maybe looking forward to getting a little bit of a break, maybe a little bit of a breather.

00:05:50:11 - 00:06:14:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, staying strong with your programing throughout the summer doesn't really give you that option. And in addition to that, because school year and, like fall based launches and the start, you know, post Labor Day and welcome back and back to school Sunday and all the things that go along with traditional church ministry, especially as it pertains to launching strong and launching hard in the fall.

00:06:14:29 - 00:06:31:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You might need to be recruiting leaders. Not taking a break over the summer may not give you as much space to retool and get ready to launch strong in the fall. Or at least that may be some of what you're thinking and some of what, you know, you, you kind of have going on in, in your mind there.

00:06:31:14 - 00:06:52:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I just want to encourage you, like, as you're kind of debating through this, like if your priority is having a strong, school year based student ministry, end of summer Rob's from that. I can imagine where that might be a con. Let let's take a look then, here at some of the pros and the cons of, choosing to take a break during the summer.

00:06:52:26 - 00:07:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the pros are that if you do feel like you're running just so hard and so fast and so strong, all during the school year, the summer definitely does offer a little bit of a reprieve. You know, burnout is real among youth pastors. Shout out to my friend dairy. Link down below or right here on YouTube at the top of the screen.

00:07:12:03 - 00:07:48:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On my episode with him where I interviewed, how does he avoid burnout? It is a fantastic episode, and what I'll just say is, if taking time off during the summer is a way to help you avoid, burning out, then it's more advantageous to not meet during the summer so that you can tend to your soul. But I would just say, maybe it's worthwhile to go take a look at that episode from Derry and see if during this next school year, if there are some practices and some principles that he laid out, that you can actually apply so that when next summer rolls around, if you are considering maybe, not breaking for

00:07:48:00 - 00:08:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
your programing as opposed to breaking that, you won't be so tired and so burnout by the time you get on the doorstep of summer. So that you can maybe show up for your students. Another pro, of course, is that you do give an opportunity to give your leaders a break. So if you you know how important it is to lean on leaders.

00:08:07:27 - 00:08:24:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And leaders really are the backbone of student ministry. If you, don't meet during the summer, obviously you don't need your leaders to be there. If you do meet during the summer, you kind of need your leaders to show up, you know what I'm saying? So, that that is one of the pros of choosing to take a break during the summer.

00:08:24:00 - 00:08:50:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The cons, of course, are like, just think about this. Do you really want to go three months without meeting, like, just like basketball? Student ministry is a momentum game. And so, taking three months off, especially when you probably got, a high level, high flying thing, like camp or a mission trip, woven throughout the programing of your summer to just do that and then come back and not have anything for several months.

00:08:51:01 - 00:09:17:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, that's really a con that is worth considering. Like, do you really want to come back and then just be like, all right, see you guys after Labor Day? Like for me personally, that feels like a little bit long and a little bit of an arduous, break. The other thing, of course, is that you're not meeting during summer students most available seasons is the pro, to the reason why you maybe should consider keeping summer programing going.

00:09:17:08 - 00:09:38:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so those are both sides. You can probably tell that objectively speaking, we do choose to meet during the summer. We retool, we scale it back. We we're very creative. We do things that are very different. And so let me just give you three tips, regardless of which decision you're going to, land on which which camp you fallen for this debate.

00:09:38:23 - 00:10:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Three tips to help you program amazing things, or at least, do amazing youth ministry during the summer, whether you're meeting or not. So tip number one is follow your church's guide. If you have regular, say, midweek or regular Sunday night activities, church wide kids, ministry ministries, all the things and they take a break, then perhaps consider also taking a break.

00:10:00:21 - 00:10:18:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If if you're the only group that meets on campus when you meet, then that's not as big of a deal. But but consider following your church's lead. However, unlike the last video in this playlist where I talked about the importance of following your church's lead as a as it pertains to promotion, that's like a level like, absolutely.

00:10:18:06 - 00:10:43:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do not deviate from your church's plan on this one. I would say I think things can be a little bit different because while some of the offerings for Kids Ministry and some of the offerings for adult ministry may be a little more elective based or a little more optional, if this is your main meeting time, then if you do choose to meet during the summer while the rest of your church takes time off, then stand strong on that and and communicate the importance of meeting when students are more available.

00:10:43:28 - 00:11:11:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Again, you don't have to do as wholesale or full scale of a programing. You can scale it back, you can throw some creative options. Again, I'm going to give you some of those and some of what we're doing, in our student ministry. But you can you can kind of pull back the, the, the programing, intensity a little bit so that you can have some fun and just make it a little bit more of a casual hangout, but the tip is, if you're sure you like, follow, follow your church's lead.

00:11:11:01 - 00:11:27:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're unsure which direction to lean on this debate. The second tip I have for you is if you do take a break, and even if you don't, but if you definitely if you do lean in harder than on social media, because you may not be meeting on a Wednesday night or a Sunday night or whatever night you choose to meet, so you have more time in the office.

00:11:27:10 - 00:11:48:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So lean harder into social media, which is linked down below. The freebie tease at the beginning of the video. A hundred different topic ideas for you, for different concepts that, you can use on social media. So for us, I have a four part social media, strategy and social challenge guide, a whole playlist detailed for free, listed down below in the description.

00:11:48:25 - 00:12:08:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Go check that out one episode per video, but this freebie gives you 100 different topic ideas to help you lean into some of the creativity and some of the social media, ideas. And then you can continue to kind of show up where your students are, even if you choose not to meet. And then the third and final idea is just simply this it's summer, man.

00:12:08:15 - 00:12:26:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Have fun. Like if you do choose to meet, have fun while you do. If you don't have fun, do it on social media. Have a blast with your students creating content both for them and also consider doing it with them. And the thing about summer that's so fun. And one of the things that we do is we try to kind of ride the National Day trend.

00:12:26:10 - 00:12:46:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you didn't know there is a National day every single day, multiple national days. So this summer, for example, we're choosing like, beautiful Grandparent Day where we're going to play Extreme Bingo, and National Cheesecake Day is going to round out our summer, you know, programing. And and Leon Day, which is, June 25th. It is the, backwards.

00:12:46:24 - 00:13:08:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, Leon spelled backwards is Noel. So June 25th is when crafters start getting their Christmas supplies out. Last summer we did like National Avocado Day, and we celebrated some holidays like that. And so there's always an option of a thing that you can just kind of trend. So if we don't, we don't female our midweek throughout the, the the regular school year.

00:13:08:00 - 00:13:26:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But during the summer we do we kind of have fun with it. It also is a fun way to kind of create some social media content around it. We'll go around, interview people and ask them, you know, things about each of those topics or whatever, and kind of do a man on the street style video and again, some of that is detailed in that line down below in that 100 free thing.

00:13:26:15 - 00:13:47:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So go ahead and and grab that freebie so that you don't neglect in that you don't avoid social media this summer. Hey, everyone. Coming up in the next episode is the fourth and final installment of this versus playlist, where we're going to be looking at digital ministry versus in-person ministry. And if you're watching this, after its release, it's going to be linked right here on the screen.

00:13:47:29 - 00:13:54:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're watching this live, it'll be releasing next Thursday. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget stay hybrid.

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Took my students on their first mission trip, charge them around $1,000, travel, lodging, all the things that you need to do pretty cheap for a mission trip, honestly. And then I was getting ready doing my budget and calendaring process for the next year, and I started thinking, like in the current context in which I was in all the same students, we're going to go back on the same mission trip. 00;00;28;03 - 00;00;56;09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're going to write support letters to all the same people. And I was like, it might be too soon. So decided to do a camp, stumbled into an amazing camp experience that we did and produced all by ourselves, trying to keep it dirt cheap and thus invented my love for summer camp at that point. Now, some of you have been all around summer camp, but what became so necessary was the need for amazing videography and amazing photography at summer camp. 00;00;56;09 - 00;01;21;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in this episode, I want to tell you how I stumbled into it, and I want to give you three ideas of how you can have amazing camp content that is going to help, reinforce and help your church get on board with your summer camp experience. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So the continuation of that story is I start going to camp, we start adding more and more students, and I'm at my business meeting. 00;01;21;05 - 00;01;42;01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give me a like, if you've ever had to go to a congregational business meeting. And I had a few naysayers who were like, this is an astronomical amount to spend for camp. What I felt like they may not have been taking into consideration is the fact that, like, I had to get approval to spend the entire amount of money, including the money that students were going to be paying into it. 00;01;42;01 - 00;02;02;13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, like the total amount of money out of the budget was like five grand. But in totality, I was requesting something like $46,000 to be spent, but that included the $300 student registration, you know, or whatever it was. And so with those naysayers, I then was like, I need I need them to see why this is worth it. 00;02;02;13 - 00;02;23;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I need them to get on board. And I need I want the church to support what the student ministry is doing. And so I went to my friend who was my roommate in college and I knew had a degree in like digital media. And I was like, bro, what do I need to pay you to come to camp and create amazing recap videos that are going to make people cry. 00;02;23;06 - 00;02;47;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then, the very next Sunday, we were back at church and we shared like a testimony recap video that was like 12 minutes long. And some kids were like, I accepted Jesus at the altar the last night of camp. And I mean, I'm telling you, there was not a dry eye in the room. Camp media is an amazing tool to help your parents, your church, your pastor, your boss. 00;02;47;29 - 00;03;08;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry See what's going on at camp. And in this video, I want to share with you an easy way to do it for basically free. I want to share with you a medium, difficulty level of doing it. And then I want to share with you a higher level of difficulty and perhaps the most expensive, but probably, as always, as you know, the more you pay, the better the product. 00;03;08;07 - 00;03;35;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's hop in. Welcome to this edition of How Do I Do? Camp media on the Hybrid Ministry show. So first and foremost, you want to have some sort of text message or, channel back to parents. Okay. So you can send them links to your videos, links to albums, links to photos, whatever it is that you take. And so, like I said, we're going to do an easy a medium and a higher level of difficulty in this episode. 00;03;35;19 - 00;03;59;07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But first and foremost, philosophy, basically, no matter what level of difficulty you do, you need to have some sort of, channel back to parents. That's going to be your number one advocate, especially for the week while you're at camp. Now, once you return, if you have like a student take over Sunday or whatever, like you can you can implement some of these things that you've you've pulled together at camp and find a way to package them and show them to the rest of your congregation. 00;03;59;09 - 00;04;17;20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But while you're at camp, if you want to have a buzz amongst your parents, you need to get it back into them. So, you can do some sort of text message group. You can do some sort of Facebook group. You can even post some of this stuff on your YouTube channel and then send the links to those in your Facebook group or in your text message group, or your parent email chain. 00;04;17;20 - 00;04;32;12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Whatever it is, figure out what works best in your context, but have something easy and preferably something that you can use on your phone. So as soon as you get a link, you can copy the link, you can send it out and you do it all on your mobile device. You don't need to sit down at a computer and try and find a way to do it at camp. 00;04;32;12 - 00;05;00;20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, how do you do easy videos at camp? Let's hop in. So the first way that you can do it is you can walk around with your camera, vertical based video, and you can, very simply, you can, auto cut those videos in an app like TikTok or in your Instagram Reels editor, and you can send out daily, shorts, daily TikToks, daily real type videos. 00;05;00;22 - 00;05;19;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can send the links to those in text groups or, in some sort of Facebook became post posts in Facebook. That's super easy. You or leader walk around vertical based video and all you need is clips of anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds. You don't need any longer because you're just going to overlay it with music and maybe some captions on screen and off you go. 00;05;19;27 - 00;05;38;23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You want to keep those 60s or less. And so the quicker and shorter the videos. So if you have the wherewithal in your mind to walk around, play your camera out five seconds, eight seconds, seven seconds, nine seconds, three seconds and then stitch all those together in like an auto cut feature in TikTok. You're going to be going in and off to the races. 00;05;38;26 - 00;05;58;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now. How do you easily, source photos? You tell your students, hey, send pictures on this hashtag, or if they're not going to post on like, Instagram, like that, send photos in this text group and this DM thread, whatever you choose to use some sort of, function to get those photos back to you, create a shared Google Photos album, whatever. 00;05;58;25 - 00;06;15;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Put all your pictures in here, and then you can crowdsource those, and you can create a slideshow at the end of the night. Or if you're at some sort of camp, like a, like a generate or a feud or a lift or something like that, where you don't have control over what ends up on screen, then you create albums and you send those out in Facebook groups to parents. 00;06;15;02 - 00;06;36;14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's the easiest, lowest hanging fruit. Okay, now what about medium? And this is honestly, this is a big step up and it's going to cost you next to nothing. Let's check it out. So genuinely I've done this before okay. And if you want to create daily recap videos again you have control of the screens. So daily recap videos that you can show in your sessions. 00;06;36;21 - 00;06;53;17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or if you don't have control of the screens at a minimum daily recap videos that you can post to YouTube. Let me show you how you can do it on Cap cut. All right, so if you're watching here on screen, this is what I did, a couple years ago, we didn't hire and have money, for a videographer. 00;06;53;17 - 00;07;13;23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I would do daily recap videos in the cabin at night, throw my headphones on, and kids are all sleeping. And so I'm here on cap cut out, hit new project. And let's just do these, videos of my dog, okay? And so I would click, all the videos I want to add and I'd click add three. 00;07;13;25 - 00;07;40;14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And here I am now and I can create some sort of video. So there's my dog and there's another video of my dog and there's another little video of my dog. Now, what you can do is you can add animations, and anything if you are doing like a free account, anything with like the little like pro features or things, there. 00;07;40;16 - 00;08;06;18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Those don't use those. But if you find any of the ones like this one right here, that is free, okay, it'll come right in. And there you go. Boom off you go. And if you want to like add a text that says, you know, like day one recap. Put it right there and hope I'm exporting. Don't want to export quit. 00;08;06;21 - 00;08;25;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So there it is. Day one recap. Now I can edit this text click style. And once again you want to make sure you don't add a pro feature. So see those little corners right there. So this one's this one's free. Day one recap. Change the font. Find one that's not a pro font. And off we go. 00;08;26;02 - 00;08;47;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right right there. All of these are not pro fonts. And so the main thing if you want to keep it free is that you don't add anything. Pro font. All right. Right here I can add some sort of transition. So here's a transition that's not that is pro don't remind me again. I might not. Oh here's one pull in. 00;08;47;17 - 00;09;15;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. And there we go. And I go all the way through at the end. I can also add things like, stickers. I can add text to audio, and I can add music. And that's what I do when I add some audio. And so if I want to go to some sounds and find something like this one here, that's not, that's not, pro. 00;09;15;24 - 00;09;41;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now I got a video and then I hit export. And we are off to the races. And you'll see here on screen, if you're watching, you can see the finalized video of my dog. It's beautiful. Who doesn't love it? This would take me about an hour after lights out, but I want to let you know that it is completely free, so after you've done your capture video, what if you want photos? 00;09;41;08 - 00;10;01;00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, what if you took a leader, not someone who's have an elite? A small group would be a cabin leader, and they're just a dedicated photographer. You're only cost in that. Give them a cell phone. Have them take it on an iPhone. Google pixel, a nice phone. You're only cost in. That is your perhaps payment of their registration fee. 00;10;01;00 - 00;10;25;24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Unless, of course, you're charging your leaders to go, in which case you're good and you say, hey, listen, your only job is take photos and send these daily recaps back home to parents, and you give them that job. And so all week, their entire sole focus using just their cell phone is to take good photos. And so then with your daily recaps and your lidar photos, you can, bring those back and you can present those to your church. 00;10;25;24 - 00;10;42;23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, the last little bit in this is if you want and studio, link down below. You can grab some Bluetooth microphones. You can also take some video on your cell phone, just like I showed you. Stitch it together and cap cut. But you can take students testimonies and tell them, hey, what, what stood out to you? 00;10;42;23 - 00;11;00;17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How to God move in your life this week? Like all that type of stuff? And you can create a recap testimony video and you can show that on screen the quality is great. You saw the export quality was like 1080p. You can export it even up to 4K, and you can shoot it in 4K on your camera if it if it's able to handle it. 00;11;00;20 - 00;11;20;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then you can show that on a screen. You can also post that to something like YouTube and then share it in your Facebook group. But what about the best and probably most expensive? Well, let's dive in. Your final your best is you want those daily recap videos. You want that final big testimony video. Your best bang. 00;11;20;07 - 00;11;38;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, not bang for your buck, right? This is going to cost you money, but you hire a videographer. Maybe you're church or something. Maybe you know someone, but you bring someone in, they bring all their own gear and they, follow students around. They capture footage, and their entire job is to create daily recap videos for you on the big screen at night. 00;11;38;22 - 00;11;59;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you have control of that, or post them to YouTube and then create that testimony video. And if you can hire that same person, or maybe hire a second person to take photos on a good camera that they have, that's going to be your highest barrier to entry. You're probably going to have to a pay for them to go to camp, be pay for their lodging and all that stuff. 00;11;59;05 - 00;12;18;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's say that's anywhere from 3 to $400, and then you're going to pay them a fee, 800 bucks, 1500 bucks. It is expensive. But if you have the budget, I'm just telling you like it does end up being worth it and you end up with much higher quality footage. And what you can do on your phone and much higher caliber photos. 00;12;18;11 - 00;12;44;14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if you're like, bro, I can't even get anywhere near that, then that medium range won't for you. As long as you're willing to put the work in. As long as you're willing to use cap cut, you can do it for very cheap and frankly, very free. And still get a very, very good result. Now, listen, your camp experience is very important, and students lives are often marked and changed at camp. 00;12;44;16 - 00;13;12;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what's also very important is that your people back home support you. Your parents know what's going on, and they can advocate and create a buzz around your student ministry. So don't fumble the bag. This summer on creating amazing camp media and amazing camp content. I'm rooting for you, have an amazing camp and crush it with a digital media this summer so that your church can get on board and support what your student ministry has going on. 00;13;12;29 - 00;13;16;25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Thanks for being here. We'll talk next time and don't forget to stay hybrid. 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Why Summer Camps Matter
01:14 Why Camp Videography & Photography Matter
03:16 Step #1 No Matter What
04:37 Easy Camp Media Strategy
06:25 Medium [& FREE!] Camp Media Strategy
11:11 Most Difficult [But Best] Camp Media Strategy

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TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;22 - 00;00;28;00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So when I first started in youth ministry, I was like a mission trip guy. All about mission trips. Took my students on their first mission trip, charge them around $1,000, travel, lodging, all the things that you need to do pretty cheap for a mission trip, honestly. And then I was getting ready doing my budget and calendaring process for the next year, and I started thinking, like in the current context in which I was in all the same students, we're going to go back on the same mission trip.

00;00;28;03 - 00;00;56;09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're going to write support letters to all the same people. And I was like, it might be too soon. So decided to do a camp, stumbled into an amazing camp experience that we did and produced all by ourselves, trying to keep it dirt cheap and thus invented my love for summer camp at that point. Now, some of you have been all around summer camp, but what became so necessary was the need for amazing videography and amazing photography at summer camp.

00;00;56;09 - 00;01;21;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this episode, I want to tell you how I stumbled into it, and I want to give you three ideas of how you can have amazing camp content that is going to help, reinforce and help your church get on board with your summer camp experience. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So the continuation of that story is I start going to camp, we start adding more and more students, and I'm at my business meeting.

00;01;21;05 - 00;01;42;01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like, if you've ever had to go to a congregational business meeting. And I had a few naysayers who were like, this is an astronomical amount to spend for camp. What I felt like they may not have been taking into consideration is the fact that, like, I had to get approval to spend the entire amount of money, including the money that students were going to be paying into it.

00;01;42;01 - 00;02;02;13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, like the total amount of money out of the budget was like five grand. But in totality, I was requesting something like $46,000 to be spent, but that included the $300 student registration, you know, or whatever it was. And so with those naysayers, I then was like, I need I need them to see why this is worth it.

00;02;02;13 - 00;02;23;03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I need them to get on board. And I need I want the church to support what the student ministry is doing. And so I went to my friend who was my roommate in college and I knew had a degree in like digital media. And I was like, bro, what do I need to pay you to come to camp and create amazing recap videos that are going to make people cry.

00;02;23;06 - 00;02;47;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then, the very next Sunday, we were back at church and we shared like a testimony recap video that was like 12 minutes long. And some kids were like, I accepted Jesus at the altar the last night of camp. And I mean, I'm telling you, there was not a dry eye in the room. Camp media is an amazing tool to help your parents, your church, your pastor, your boss.

00;02;47;29 - 00;03;08;03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
See what's going on at camp. And in this video, I want to share with you an easy way to do it for basically free. I want to share with you a medium, difficulty level of doing it. And then I want to share with you a higher level of difficulty and perhaps the most expensive, but probably, as always, as you know, the more you pay, the better the product.

00;03;08;07 - 00;03;35;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's hop in. Welcome to this edition of How Do I Do? Camp media on the Hybrid Ministry show. So first and foremost, you want to have some sort of text message or, channel back to parents. Okay. So you can send them links to your videos, links to albums, links to photos, whatever it is that you take. And so, like I said, we're going to do an easy a medium and a higher level of difficulty in this episode.

00;03;35;19 - 00;03;59;07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But first and foremost, philosophy, basically, no matter what level of difficulty you do, you need to have some sort of, channel back to parents. That's going to be your number one advocate, especially for the week while you're at camp. Now, once you return, if you have like a student take over Sunday or whatever, like you can you can implement some of these things that you've you've pulled together at camp and find a way to package them and show them to the rest of your congregation.

00;03;59;09 - 00;04;17;20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But while you're at camp, if you want to have a buzz amongst your parents, you need to get it back into them. So, you can do some sort of text message group. You can do some sort of Facebook group. You can even post some of this stuff on your YouTube channel and then send the links to those in your Facebook group or in your text message group, or your parent email chain.

00;04;17;20 - 00;04;32;12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Whatever it is, figure out what works best in your context, but have something easy and preferably something that you can use on your phone. So as soon as you get a link, you can copy the link, you can send it out and you do it all on your mobile device. You don't need to sit down at a computer and try and find a way to do it at camp.

00;04;32;12 - 00;05;00;20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, how do you do easy videos at camp? Let's hop in. So the first way that you can do it is you can walk around with your camera, vertical based video, and you can, very simply, you can, auto cut those videos in an app like TikTok or in your Instagram Reels editor, and you can send out daily, shorts, daily TikToks, daily real type videos.

00;05;00;22 - 00;05;19;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can send the links to those in text groups or, in some sort of Facebook became post posts in Facebook. That's super easy. You or leader walk around vertical based video and all you need is clips of anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds. You don't need any longer because you're just going to overlay it with music and maybe some captions on screen and off you go.

00;05;19;27 - 00;05;38;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You want to keep those 60s or less. And so the quicker and shorter the videos. So if you have the wherewithal in your mind to walk around, play your camera out five seconds, eight seconds, seven seconds, nine seconds, three seconds and then stitch all those together in like an auto cut feature in TikTok. You're going to be going in and off to the races.

00;05;38;26 - 00;05;58;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now. How do you easily, source photos? You tell your students, hey, send pictures on this hashtag, or if they're not going to post on like, Instagram, like that, send photos in this text group and this DM thread, whatever you choose to use some sort of, function to get those photos back to you, create a shared Google Photos album, whatever.

00;05;58;25 - 00;06;15;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Put all your pictures in here, and then you can crowdsource those, and you can create a slideshow at the end of the night. Or if you're at some sort of camp, like a, like a generate or a feud or a lift or something like that, where you don't have control over what ends up on screen, then you create albums and you send those out in Facebook groups to parents.

00;06;15;02 - 00;06;36;14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the easiest, lowest hanging fruit. Okay, now what about medium? And this is honestly, this is a big step up and it's going to cost you next to nothing. Let's check it out. So genuinely I've done this before okay. And if you want to create daily recap videos again you have control of the screens. So daily recap videos that you can show in your sessions.

00;06;36;21 - 00;06;53;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or if you don't have control of the screens at a minimum daily recap videos that you can post to YouTube. Let me show you how you can do it on Cap cut. All right, so if you're watching here on screen, this is what I did, a couple years ago, we didn't hire and have money, for a videographer.

00;06;53;17 - 00;07;13;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I would do daily recap videos in the cabin at night, throw my headphones on, and kids are all sleeping. And so I'm here on cap cut out, hit new project. And let's just do these, videos of my dog, okay? And so I would click, all the videos I want to add and I'd click add three.

00;07;13;25 - 00;07;40;14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here I am now and I can create some sort of video. So there's my dog and there's another video of my dog and there's another little video of my dog. Now, what you can do is you can add animations, and anything if you are doing like a free account, anything with like the little like pro features or things, there.

00;07;40;16 - 00;08;06;18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Those don't use those. But if you find any of the ones like this one right here, that is free, okay, it'll come right in. And there you go. Boom off you go. And if you want to like add a text that says, you know, like day one recap. Put it right there and hope I'm exporting. Don't want to export quit.

00;08;06;21 - 00;08;25;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So there it is. Day one recap. Now I can edit this text click style. And once again you want to make sure you don't add a pro feature. So see those little corners right there. So this one's this one's free. Day one recap. Change the font. Find one that's not a pro font. And off we go.

00;08;26;02 - 00;08;47;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right right there. All of these are not pro fonts. And so the main thing if you want to keep it free is that you don't add anything. Pro font. All right. Right here I can add some sort of transition. So here's a transition that's not that is pro don't remind me again. I might not. Oh here's one pull in.

00;08;47;17 - 00;09;15;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. And there we go. And I go all the way through at the end. I can also add things like, stickers. I can add text to audio, and I can add music. And that's what I do when I add some audio. And so if I want to go to some sounds and find something like this one here, that's not, that's not, pro.

00;09;15;24 - 00;09;41;03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now I got a video and then I hit export. And we are off to the races. And you'll see here on screen, if you're watching, you can see the finalized video of my dog. It's beautiful. Who doesn't love it? This would take me about an hour after lights out, but I want to let you know that it is completely free, so after you've done your capture video, what if you want photos?

00;09;41;08 - 00;10;01;00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, what if you took a leader, not someone who's have an elite? A small group would be a cabin leader, and they're just a dedicated photographer. You're only cost in that. Give them a cell phone. Have them take it on an iPhone. Google pixel, a nice phone. You're only cost in. That is your perhaps payment of their registration fee.

00;10;01;00 - 00;10;25;24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Unless, of course, you're charging your leaders to go, in which case you're good and you say, hey, listen, your only job is take photos and send these daily recaps back home to parents, and you give them that job. And so all week, their entire sole focus using just their cell phone is to take good photos. And so then with your daily recaps and your lidar photos, you can, bring those back and you can present those to your church.

00;10;25;24 - 00;10;42;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, the last little bit in this is if you want and studio, link down below. You can grab some Bluetooth microphones. You can also take some video on your cell phone, just like I showed you. Stitch it together and cap cut. But you can take students testimonies and tell them, hey, what, what stood out to you?

00;10;42;23 - 00;11;00;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How to God move in your life this week? Like all that type of stuff? And you can create a recap testimony video and you can show that on screen the quality is great. You saw the export quality was like 1080p. You can export it even up to 4K, and you can shoot it in 4K on your camera if it if it's able to handle it.

00;11;00;20 - 00;11;20;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you can show that on a screen. You can also post that to something like YouTube and then share it in your Facebook group. But what about the best and probably most expensive? Well, let's dive in. Your final your best is you want those daily recap videos. You want that final big testimony video. Your best bang.

00;11;20;07 - 00;11;38;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, not bang for your buck, right? This is going to cost you money, but you hire a videographer. Maybe you're church or something. Maybe you know someone, but you bring someone in, they bring all their own gear and they, follow students around. They capture footage, and their entire job is to create daily recap videos for you on the big screen at night.

00;11;38;22 - 00;11;59;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you have control of that, or post them to YouTube and then create that testimony video. And if you can hire that same person, or maybe hire a second person to take photos on a good camera that they have, that's going to be your highest barrier to entry. You're probably going to have to a pay for them to go to camp, be pay for their lodging and all that stuff.

00;11;59;05 - 00;12;18;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's say that's anywhere from 3 to $400, and then you're going to pay them a fee, 800 bucks, 1500 bucks. It is expensive. But if you have the budget, I'm just telling you like it does end up being worth it and you end up with much higher quality footage. And what you can do on your phone and much higher caliber photos.

00;12;18;11 - 00;12;44;14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you're like, bro, I can't even get anywhere near that, then that medium range won't for you. As long as you're willing to put the work in. As long as you're willing to use cap cut, you can do it for very cheap and frankly, very free. And still get a very, very good result. Now, listen, your camp experience is very important, and students lives are often marked and changed at camp.

00;12;44;16 - 00;13;12;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what's also very important is that your people back home support you. Your parents know what's going on, and they can advocate and create a buzz around your student ministry. So don't fumble the bag. This summer on creating amazing camp media and amazing camp content. I'm rooting for you, have an amazing camp and crush it with a digital media this summer so that your church can get on board and support what your student ministry has going on.

00;13;12;29 - 00;13;16;25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Thanks for being here. We'll talk next time and don't forget to stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Why Summer Camps Matter
01:14 Why Camp Videography & Photography Matter
03:16 Step #1 No Matter What
04:37 Easy Camp Media Strategy
06:25 Medium [& FREE!] Camp Media Strategy
11:11 Most Difficult [But Best] Camp Media Strategy

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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So when I first started in youth ministry, I was like a mission trip guy. All about mission trips. Took my students on their first mission trip, charge them around $1,000, travel, lodging, all the things that you need to do pretty cheap for a mission trip, honestly. And then I was getting ready doing my budget and calendaring process for the next year, and I started thinking, like in the current context in which I was in all the same students, we're going to go back on the same mission trip.

00;00;28;03 - 00;00;56;09
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They're going to write support letters to all the same people. And I was like, it might be too soon. So decided to do a camp, stumbled into an amazing camp experience that we did and produced all by ourselves, trying to keep it dirt cheap and thus invented my love for summer camp at that point. Now, some of you have been all around summer camp, but what became so necessary was the need for amazing videography and amazing photography at summer camp.

00;00;56;09 - 00;01;21;05
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And so in this episode, I want to tell you how I stumbled into it, and I want to give you three ideas of how you can have amazing camp content that is going to help, reinforce and help your church get on board with your summer camp experience. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So the continuation of that story is I start going to camp, we start adding more and more students, and I'm at my business meeting.

00;01;21;05 - 00;01;42;01
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Give me a like, if you've ever had to go to a congregational business meeting. And I had a few naysayers who were like, this is an astronomical amount to spend for camp. What I felt like they may not have been taking into consideration is the fact that, like, I had to get approval to spend the entire amount of money, including the money that students were going to be paying into it.

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And so, like the total amount of money out of the budget was like five grand. But in totality, I was requesting something like $46,000 to be spent, but that included the $300 student registration, you know, or whatever it was. And so with those naysayers, I then was like, I need I need them to see why this is worth it.

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And I need them to get on board. And I need I want the church to support what the student ministry is doing. And so I went to my friend who was my roommate in college and I knew had a degree in like digital media. And I was like, bro, what do I need to pay you to come to camp and create amazing recap videos that are going to make people cry.

00;02;23;06 - 00;02;47;29
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And then, the very next Sunday, we were back at church and we shared like a testimony recap video that was like 12 minutes long. And some kids were like, I accepted Jesus at the altar the last night of camp. And I mean, I'm telling you, there was not a dry eye in the room. Camp media is an amazing tool to help your parents, your church, your pastor, your boss.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
See what's going on at camp. And in this video, I want to share with you an easy way to do it for basically free. I want to share with you a medium, difficulty level of doing it. And then I want to share with you a higher level of difficulty and perhaps the most expensive, but probably, as always, as you know, the more you pay, the better the product.

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Let's hop in. Welcome to this edition of How Do I Do? Camp media on the Hybrid Ministry show. So first and foremost, you want to have some sort of text message or, channel back to parents. Okay. So you can send them links to your videos, links to albums, links to photos, whatever it is that you take. And so, like I said, we're going to do an easy a medium and a higher level of difficulty in this episode.

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But first and foremost, philosophy, basically, no matter what level of difficulty you do, you need to have some sort of, channel back to parents. That's going to be your number one advocate, especially for the week while you're at camp. Now, once you return, if you have like a student take over Sunday or whatever, like you can you can implement some of these things that you've you've pulled together at camp and find a way to package them and show them to the rest of your congregation.

00;03;59;09 - 00;04;17;20
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But while you're at camp, if you want to have a buzz amongst your parents, you need to get it back into them. So, you can do some sort of text message group. You can do some sort of Facebook group. You can even post some of this stuff on your YouTube channel and then send the links to those in your Facebook group or in your text message group, or your parent email chain.

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Whatever it is, figure out what works best in your context, but have something easy and preferably something that you can use on your phone. So as soon as you get a link, you can copy the link, you can send it out and you do it all on your mobile device. You don't need to sit down at a computer and try and find a way to do it at camp.

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Now, how do you do easy videos at camp? Let's hop in. So the first way that you can do it is you can walk around with your camera, vertical based video, and you can, very simply, you can, auto cut those videos in an app like TikTok or in your Instagram Reels editor, and you can send out daily, shorts, daily TikToks, daily real type videos.

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And you can send the links to those in text groups or, in some sort of Facebook became post posts in Facebook. That's super easy. You or leader walk around vertical based video and all you need is clips of anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds. You don't need any longer because you're just going to overlay it with music and maybe some captions on screen and off you go.

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You want to keep those 60s or less. And so the quicker and shorter the videos. So if you have the wherewithal in your mind to walk around, play your camera out five seconds, eight seconds, seven seconds, nine seconds, three seconds and then stitch all those together in like an auto cut feature in TikTok. You're going to be going in and off to the races.

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Now. How do you easily, source photos? You tell your students, hey, send pictures on this hashtag, or if they're not going to post on like, Instagram, like that, send photos in this text group and this DM thread, whatever you choose to use some sort of, function to get those photos back to you, create a shared Google Photos album, whatever.

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Put all your pictures in here, and then you can crowdsource those, and you can create a slideshow at the end of the night. Or if you're at some sort of camp, like a, like a generate or a feud or a lift or something like that, where you don't have control over what ends up on screen, then you create albums and you send those out in Facebook groups to parents.

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That's the easiest, lowest hanging fruit. Okay, now what about medium? And this is honestly, this is a big step up and it's going to cost you next to nothing. Let's check it out. So genuinely I've done this before okay. And if you want to create daily recap videos again you have control of the screens. So daily recap videos that you can show in your sessions.

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Or if you don't have control of the screens at a minimum daily recap videos that you can post to YouTube. Let me show you how you can do it on Cap cut. All right, so if you're watching here on screen, this is what I did, a couple years ago, we didn't hire and have money, for a videographer.

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And so I would do daily recap videos in the cabin at night, throw my headphones on, and kids are all sleeping. And so I'm here on cap cut out, hit new project. And let's just do these, videos of my dog, okay? And so I would click, all the videos I want to add and I'd click add three.

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And here I am now and I can create some sort of video. So there's my dog and there's another video of my dog and there's another little video of my dog. Now, what you can do is you can add animations, and anything if you are doing like a free account, anything with like the little like pro features or things, there.

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Those don't use those. But if you find any of the ones like this one right here, that is free, okay, it'll come right in. And there you go. Boom off you go. And if you want to like add a text that says, you know, like day one recap. Put it right there and hope I'm exporting. Don't want to export quit.

00;08;06;21 - 00;08;25;29
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So there it is. Day one recap. Now I can edit this text click style. And once again you want to make sure you don't add a pro feature. So see those little corners right there. So this one's this one's free. Day one recap. Change the font. Find one that's not a pro font. And off we go.

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Right right there. All of these are not pro fonts. And so the main thing if you want to keep it free is that you don't add anything. Pro font. All right. Right here I can add some sort of transition. So here's a transition that's not that is pro don't remind me again. I might not. Oh here's one pull in.

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Okay. And there we go. And I go all the way through at the end. I can also add things like, stickers. I can add text to audio, and I can add music. And that's what I do when I add some audio. And so if I want to go to some sounds and find something like this one here, that's not, that's not, pro.

00;09;15;24 - 00;09;41;03
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Now I got a video and then I hit export. And we are off to the races. And you'll see here on screen, if you're watching, you can see the finalized video of my dog. It's beautiful. Who doesn't love it? This would take me about an hour after lights out, but I want to let you know that it is completely free, so after you've done your capture video, what if you want photos?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, what if you took a leader, not someone who's have an elite? A small group would be a cabin leader, and they're just a dedicated photographer. You're only cost in that. Give them a cell phone. Have them take it on an iPhone. Google pixel, a nice phone. You're only cost in. That is your perhaps payment of their registration fee.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Unless, of course, you're charging your leaders to go, in which case you're good and you say, hey, listen, your only job is take photos and send these daily recaps back home to parents, and you give them that job. And so all week, their entire sole focus using just their cell phone is to take good photos. And so then with your daily recaps and your lidar photos, you can, bring those back and you can present those to your church.

00;10;25;24 - 00;10;42;23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, the last little bit in this is if you want and studio, link down below. You can grab some Bluetooth microphones. You can also take some video on your cell phone, just like I showed you. Stitch it together and cap cut. But you can take students testimonies and tell them, hey, what, what stood out to you?

00;10;42;23 - 00;11;00;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How to God move in your life this week? Like all that type of stuff? And you can create a recap testimony video and you can show that on screen the quality is great. You saw the export quality was like 1080p. You can export it even up to 4K, and you can shoot it in 4K on your camera if it if it's able to handle it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you can show that on a screen. You can also post that to something like YouTube and then share it in your Facebook group. But what about the best and probably most expensive? Well, let's dive in. Your final your best is you want those daily recap videos. You want that final big testimony video. Your best bang.

00;11;20;07 - 00;11;38;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like, not bang for your buck, right? This is going to cost you money, but you hire a videographer. Maybe you're church or something. Maybe you know someone, but you bring someone in, they bring all their own gear and they, follow students around. They capture footage, and their entire job is to create daily recap videos for you on the big screen at night.

00;11;38;22 - 00;11;59;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you have control of that, or post them to YouTube and then create that testimony video. And if you can hire that same person, or maybe hire a second person to take photos on a good camera that they have, that's going to be your highest barrier to entry. You're probably going to have to a pay for them to go to camp, be pay for their lodging and all that stuff.

00;11;59;05 - 00;12;18;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's say that's anywhere from 3 to $400, and then you're going to pay them a fee, 800 bucks, 1500 bucks. It is expensive. But if you have the budget, I'm just telling you like it does end up being worth it and you end up with much higher quality footage. And what you can do on your phone and much higher caliber photos.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you're like, bro, I can't even get anywhere near that, then that medium range won't for you. As long as you're willing to put the work in. As long as you're willing to use cap cut, you can do it for very cheap and frankly, very free. And still get a very, very good result. Now, listen, your camp experience is very important, and students lives are often marked and changed at camp.

00;12;44;16 - 00;13;12;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what's also very important is that your people back home support you. Your parents know what's going on, and they can advocate and create a buzz around your student ministry. So don't fumble the bag. This summer on creating amazing camp media and amazing camp content. I'm rooting for you, have an amazing camp and crush it with a digital media this summer so that your church can get on board and support what your student ministry has going on.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Thanks for being here. We'll talk next time and don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 146: How I Produce a Weekly Leader Podcast https://www.hybridministry.xyz/146 5f8ba839-451b-414c-b279-5aae52ef6785 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 146 How I Produce a Weekly Leader Podcast full Nick Clason You need to train your volunteer youth leaders, but how do you produce a podcast, which gives you the outlet to offer more trainings than you even know what to do with? And how do you not lose your life to it? Here's how I produce a weekly leader podcast with only one hour per month of a time committment! Yes, I'll show you everything I do from getting started, the gear, and maintaining it! Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show! 22:26 no You need to train your volunteer youth leaders, but how do you produce a podcast, which gives you the outlet to offer more trainings than you even know what to do with? And how do you not lose your life to it? Here's how I produce a weekly leader podcast with only one hour per month of a time committment! 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You know, I even once heard Kurt Johnston, the, famous, like, youth ministry guru from Southern California. He said, you know, your trainings aren't as good as you think. And that was a gut punch, man. Do you want to be in a position where you've communicated to your leaders everything you could possibly ever think that you need to, and still be struggling to find more things to say at your next leader meeting? 00:00:45:02 - 00:01:09:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, let me tell you how I, as we are rounding out the final episode of this mini series that we've been doing, how I in an individual solo pod, how I produce a weekly leader podcast, and all of the things that I just teased are true of what we have going on in our student ministry and on our weekly leader podcast. 00:01:09:18 - 00:01:34:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as always, there are chapters listed down below in a podcast catch or here on YouTube. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show and the completion of our little mini series, how I. And in this episode, we will talk about how I produce a weekly leader podcast, which is a small sliver to a bigger leader culture strategy. 00:01:34:08 - 00:01:54:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you want, like all there is to know about youth ministry volunteers, youth ministry leaders, recruiting, retaining all of that, you need to check out the episode that I just most recently dropped with my boss and friend, Erin Sutton, linked right here at the top of the screen. You can go check that out, but this is a small segment of what we do to help create the leader culture that we want. 00:01:54:25 - 00:02:23:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry With our leaders. And so why a podcast? So let me just back up real quick philosophically and say this. Like, why are we determined and decided that we wanted a leader podcast was we had a monthly leader meeting in our context, and there felt to be so much pressure on that one meeting, for example, like at the August leader meeting or, you know, September leader meeting, we would be like, we need to make sure that we hit all of these onboarding things. 00:02:23:29 - 00:02:47:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We need to make sure that our leaders know about all of these resources that we have to offer. We need to like, make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure like give me a like or a subscribe. If you've ever been in a position like that where you just feel like there's so much pressure on your one time once a year, or maybe twice a year gathering of sorts, and then, you know, if you're doing anything which you should, by the way, lean into the download Youth Ministry, National Day of Volunteer Training. 00:02:47:23 - 00:03:09:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like those those pieces of content and those like events are fantastic momentum builders for you and your team. We're a part of it. We're a customer, so you should check it out. Getting zero kickback from promoting it, but link down below if you're interested in the National Day information. But like if you do those things, you also feel the pressure at those leader meetings like, oh, I got them all together. 00:03:09:08 - 00:03:32:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I got them all in the room. I gotta make sure I cover all the things that I need to cover. And because of that tension that we felt and we were experiencing, finally I proposed and pitched this idea to my bosses like, let's what if we came up with a weekly leader podcast and I was on an episode, of another podcast, the next Gen coaching Podcast with, Ryan Manning? 00:03:32:29 - 00:03:52:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'll link that episode down below. And I told him we had a weekly leader podcast and that it's video based, and he was like weekly, And you could tell his wheels are turning because he had a podcast, but it wasn't weekly. And the reason that I push so hard for weekly. And before you turn this off, like, remember the chapters down below if you wanna skip this part. 00:03:52:23 - 00:04:14:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the reason I push so hard for weekly is because that is your best chance to actually create a little bit of momentum and actually get your leaders to begin adopting the rhythm and the practice, if they can expect it weekly. Now, what we as churches often default into is we don't think we have the ability to produce it weekly because let's be honest, we're producing a lot of other things weekly. 00:04:14:00 - 00:04:29:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We've got a weekly program and a weekly sermon and a weekly worship service, like all those things. And so we're like, let's not let's start with what we know we can achieve. Not a bad strategy, but let me tell you how we do it and how we can achieve it with only one hour per month worth of work. 00:04:29:20 - 00:05:01:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay, so, I went in for the weekly, push and we wanted to make the podcast less than 15 minute weekly commitment for our leaders, and we wanted them to hit it. You know, we drop it every single Monday morning. They can consume it whenever they choose to, but the idea is if they are like avid listeners or they're listening regularly, they're getting it on their, you know, first 15 minutes on their way to work Monday morning, it drops super duper early, like 5:00 in the morning. 00:05:01:15 - 00:05:20:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So hopefully that catches any leader on their commute. You know, we live in the DFW area, so a fair bit of our leaders commute pretty far. And so we wanted them to be able to catch it in their car on their way to work. All right. And within that, within us doing it weekly, we were able to hit because of the frequency. 00:05:20:16 - 00:05:43:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're able to hit so many different training topics, and we're able to cover so much more ground on the information or the communication or the announcement side of what we wanted our leaders to get with just simply choosing to do it weekly. And by doing that, it also has had some other side benefits, such as help reinforce and build the culture that we want within our youth ministry. 00:05:43:20 - 00:06:04:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's brought our group chat to life because there's a weekly piece of content being delivered directly to them that they interact with, and then they'll make fun of us and throw jokes and memes and all the things that serve to build and reinforce our leader culture. So that's the why. That's why we chose philosophically. Those were our goals, those were our desires with it. 00:06:04:24 - 00:06:22:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so because of that, if you're interested, if you're like, yeah, I got it, I'm in I my trainings aren't as good as I think they are. Thanks Kurt Johnston for that. But I want to offer some, some ongoing kind of training for my leaders on the go as you go. How do you do that? How do you do it in less than 15 minutes? 00:06:22:27 - 00:06:41:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How do you do it in less than one hour per month? Let me tell you how. Let's happen. You ready to start a podcast? You need to determine a podcast host. And here, just down below, there's going to be links to all of these and a list of them. And then I'm going to tell you what we use in our context. 00:06:41:04 - 00:07:08:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you need to choose some sort of podcast host that's going to have some sort of monthly fee associated with it. Less than $20, $20 is probably the absolute cap. But you could look into, service like Libsyn, Podbean, Buzzsprout, Spreaker Simple cast blueberry transistor casters captivate rss.com, Spotify, a gas megaphone, paddle matic and SoundCloud. I don't use any of those. 00:07:08:04 - 00:07:34:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, we actually use is we use nucleus. And if you've been listening to any of my, things on communication, nucleus is our website builder. And nucleus has a built in podcast catcher and RSS feed creator. And now if you are using nucleus for your wider church podcast, they only give you one. So if you're already using your utilizing some sort of podcast RSS feed, then you're going to need to go and get another one. 00:07:34:28 - 00:07:58:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And nucleus doesn't offer the ability to have a second, podcast or a second RSS feed. However, if you are in a bigger church and they do have some sort of like podcast hosting thing, just think for like your past their sermons and let's say they're using something like a Libsyn go talk to your communications director or explore what, account features are available to you, and see if you can add on a second podcast on your podcast hosting feed. 00:07:59:03 - 00:08:20:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What you need from your podcast hosting feed is what's called the RSS feed. The RSS feed is how podcasts are distributed to their catchers. And so there's essentially three main podcasts, services out there. There's YouTube, which is honestly not very good, but YouTube is kind of taking over the world. So I'm just not I'm not ignoring it right now. 00:08:20:02 - 00:08:47:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can use YouTube's RSS feed, but you're going to need to get that unique RSS feed from your podcast host. There's also Spotify, and then there's also Apple Podcasts. And those are really it. Now you might be thinking there's other podcast catchers out there like I used for something called Castbox. And yes, I do. However, Castbox uses the Apple RSS feed and converts it over so I can get it on an Android phone because I don't have access to the Apple Podcast catcher. 00:08:47:12 - 00:09:09:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So like I said, the main ones Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube. Okay, and so you're also going to need to create a show, create a podcast in those individual things, and then you're going to need to take your RSS feed from your host and import it into those things your Apple Podcasts, your Spotify, your YouTube. Now listen, you will hate your life the day that you choose to do that. 00:09:09:21 - 00:09:31:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You will hate your life. You're going to need emails and you're going to need two factor authentication. You're going to need phone numbers. Let me just give you a quick tidbit on that. Create something that is not dependent upon you. Don't use your personal email. Don't use your personal phone. If you need to set up like a Google Voice number that you can receive text messages from. 00:09:31:02 - 00:09:54:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry For the codes for your new Apple podcast, sign on things and off you go. All right. And then save those in a spreadsheet because heaven forbid, I know you're not thinking about leaving your church anytime soon, but one day you might. And you don't want those codes coming to your personal cell phone because the fact is, you're not going to need to log into these things are much of a regular basis. 00:09:54:00 - 00:10:12:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You need to get them started, kind of set it and forget it. But when you're setting it, just make sure you set it up in such a way that it can live beyond your tenure at your church. That's small hack. You'll thank me later. And then once you get those things set up, you're ready to get going. You're ready to make it happen. 00:10:12:14 - 00:10:31:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if you want to do some sort of ramp up launch, I have, in just second chapter down below how to launch it. Well, and how we did it and how we got the word out and all those things you are going to need a show to be on your RSS feed. You are going to need some sort of show to to kind of trigger the beginning of your thing. 00:10:31:21 - 00:10:52:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So consider a trailer, consider some sort of like, teaser of sorts. You know, we I have my boss shoot like a selfie style video less than 60s. And that was our very first episode. But then we use that kind of as promo. And I also got the feeds for Spotify, for Apple Podcasts, and for YouTube kind of started so that we could start pointing people to those things. 00:10:52:29 - 00:11:13:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They could start subscribing and they could start bookmarking and all those things on their devices. All right. Now, what about gear? Well, you're in luck. I have, a blog and, former episode on my podcast listed down below in the show notes hybrid ministry that xyzzy slash articles slash studio. And in that you're going to want to scroll to the podcast Mike section. 00:11:13:24 - 00:11:41:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And those are the microphones that we use. We also use videos so you can see the the camera that we use there on that same blog. Or you can set up a cell phone camera, which, by the way, full disclosure. So what I'm using right now here on this episode, and you can set up, a camera if you do want to have video, we use, so we do use the YouTube RSS feed, like I said, but I also post individually in its own YouTube playlist, our videos. 00:11:41:06 - 00:12:00:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So our leaders have the option for audio. They also have the option for video. And there are some things that are fun for them to see on on video. Like one time every episode, me and my friend Darren, we cheers like 3 to 1 cheers. And then one one week we did like, we were like, let's break these mugs. 00:12:00:18 - 00:12:14:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we went cheers. Because they're almost always empty. Because we act like it's the morning. But we often film like in the afternoon or whatever. And so they're almost always empty. And so we'll like clink real hard and like, you can tell there's no coffee. And, you know, we'll joke about how there's no coffee and then we're faking it or whatever, all the things. 00:12:14:19 - 00:12:29:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the last time we crashed the mugs together, and then we'll just say something like, if you're not watching, you're definitely going to want to go back and watch that one, right? And so if you want a camera, get a camera. If you want the podcast mix, just check those links out down below and we'll get you taken care of for that. 00:12:29:13 - 00:12:47:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. So what about the format. What do we do on our show? Like I said, our goal is 15 minutes or less. Honestly, we almost always, go ten or less. And so part of the way that we're able to do it is we don't sit down. We don't do a new half long form podcast, no Shade to carry. 00:12:47:01 - 00:13:09:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry He's the goat at what he does. But we our goal is 10 or 15 minutes or less with a nugget of training. Okay. And so here is our, format. So when we sit down to record, we batch record, we record for at a time essentially a month's worth of podcasts, and we sort of create little mini series within those four months. 00:13:09:05 - 00:13:29:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Here's the thing. You're a youth pastor, you're in on church communications. You are good at creating series. So create a series of training topics. Let me just give you a few of the ones that we've done in our context. So we've done a podcast called The Secret Stuff, like the Secret Sauce to having a great youth ministry small group. 00:13:29:25 - 00:13:47:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And there's like, you know, your quiet time and your prayer life and those types of things. We also did a let's envision a students experience from the parking lot to the front door to in our main room to in a small group. And so those are all four different little episodes, right? They all kind of build off each other. 00:13:47:21 - 00:14:05:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We did this little series on why certain stuff matters. So we do yearly debriefs with all of our leaders. So why debriefs matter? Why fun matters like camps or retreats matter. Why group covenants matter? This was sort of during the holidays. We did a bunch of one offs like five tips for caring for Hurting Teens. The ten Minute Rule Ministry. 00:14:05:21 - 00:14:30:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry During the holidays, we did a little four part series on on Generation Alpha and what makes them different. We talked about, some like group tips, like how to lean into the awkward silences, how to, when you're allowed to skip the lesson, this game changer that you won't want to miss? We have, like, a little, moniker in our student ministry where we say students are welcomed, wanted, needed and known. 00:14:30:27 - 00:14:54:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we did an episode on welcome to didn't episode on wanted. We did an episode on needed, and then we did an episode Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry. Right. So as you can see, those are just some ideas for content that you can use. And so we, we block them like that, we sit down, we record in a one hour block, we record all the audio, we record all the video, we don't break, we, we start recording. 00:14:54:17 - 00:15:10:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then when we're done, we're done. And we keep everything rolling. The video is still rolling, the audio is still rolling. And then we'll talk for a minute. We got a little, you know, a little table or sheet you can see down below. Our at all let you see like our videos and stuff like that. You can go check out what we do. 00:15:10:25 - 00:15:26:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We got a little sheet. So we'll talk for a minute. We'll, we'll make sure. Who are we? You know, shouting out all the stuff. We'll get to all that in a minute. But that's, that's how we block record. Then the format of our show is in three parts a shout out, the piece of content or the little nugget of training or whatever we want it to be. 00:15:27:05 - 00:15:49:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then finally we'll end with, some sort of story and we call it story time. And so those are our three segments. And so, any time we, we start in our four part series, the very first episode of that, our shout out is for anyone who's new to our team. And so, whenever someone would join our team, historically, we would want to like at the next leader lunch or whatever, say, hey, thanks so much for being here. 00:15:49:07 - 00:16:03:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is so and so. Here's a little leader gift for them. Welcome to the team. Right. Well we were forgetting that. Sort of like let's just add it to the podcast and then we take their little leader gift which is a mug, and we store it for them in our leader work room, we have a little whiteboard we write, welcome to the team. 00:16:03:16 - 00:16:23:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So and so we draw a little arrow, grab your mug okay. And we actually kind of create a little section in our, our leader room. Like our workroom which is all like podcast prizes. Okay. So after the first episode, then we do some sort of shout out, so what's a leader that's been crushing it? We shout them out and we'll often give something away. 00:16:23:20 - 00:16:42:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's, you know, around Christmas we'll give them, like, a silly mug. Recently we got some, like, free ice cream gift cards. We'll give away the ice cream gift cards, like, whatever we kind of have laying around. You don't have to do that, but we'll do some sort of giveaway. I use sidekick for that, put all of their names into the picture, and I just create some sort of criteria. 00:16:42:11 - 00:17:00:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So like, hey, if you came to the last leader lunch, your name is in the picture. If you've already, RSVP to the next leader lunch at time of recording, your name is in the picture. You get the drill and then sometimes, instead of creating shout outs and doing a giveaway, we will do leader Roulette. So we'll put their names in for some reason. 00:17:00:06 - 00:17:19:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry RSVP to the thing, right? And then, their name pops up. We don't know. We run it on sidekick. Whoever pops up will say, hey, you want ice cream? And, here's a shout out. And so we call it leader Shout out roulette. We tell them like, we don't know who's going to pop up. So we're going to be coming up with these shout outs kind of on the fly. 00:17:19:14 - 00:17:39:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's a fun little challenge. Then we hop into the content. You heard some of the content that we've done over the last year. And then finally we end with some sort of story. And that's a way for us to, you know, think youth group chronicles, like it's those, those types of stories that are happening within our youth ministry or a funny story that we have heard about or something that's even happened in our past. 00:17:39:22 - 00:18:05:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And those are, hard to to get at first. But once our leaders start listening, they start telling us stuff and we always blur and bleep out all of the students name. So if a student ever runs across this on our YouTube channel, they're not feeling like isolated or whatever, and we make the stories vague enough that they're not going to know, and, and, you know, we just kind of go from there and students don't really listen to these anyway, but if they do ever stumble across them, they're not going to be hopefully embarrassed. 00:18:05:20 - 00:18:23:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, last thing you've done all the work you've bought, all the gear, you've come up with, the format, you've started filming all those things. How then do you launch it? I'm glad you asked. Let's check it out. Last section. So this is what we did. We created a little stickers on Sticker Mule with a QR code that took them to our website. 00:18:24:00 - 00:18:43:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'll link the website down below, which pulled in a section of our playlist from our nucleus, sermons kind of database. And then, and the way that I schedule that is we schedule, like I said, a weekly message. And so the leader podcast drops at five on a Monday. And then the the message of the week drops at six. 00:18:43:05 - 00:19:03:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's our sermon that we're teaching that Wednesday night. But remember, we pre-filled those that drops at six. And so when you go on our main page, the most recent message is going to be there because it posted one hour after the Leader podcast. So the only time the Leader podcast is highlighted on the main section of our website is from 5:00 am to 6 a.m. Monday morning. 00:19:03:18 - 00:19:25:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if you go to the leader page on our website, it's highlighting the leader podcast playlist. So we make sure whenever we post that it's leader podcast playlist and that that little, playlist is a featured section on the website there. But so we, created a QR code to that section of the website, to that playlist. 00:19:25:14 - 00:19:50:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we also put a little piece of copy like, hey, make sure you subscribe, make sure you whatever. And we did a giveaway, right. The first round of podcasts I put in like our group chat screenshot that you are subscribed to our leader podcast, and anyone who screenshotted it and posted it in our group chat, they had an opportunity to win something, to put their names in sidekick and that honestly, that kind of started the whole giveaway thing and now it's just kind of a staple of what we did. 00:19:50:00 - 00:20:10:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We didn't go into it with that. The that being the intention, but that's kind of how it started. And then we did three weeks worth of like promotion around it. And what's funny is my boss was like, let's do this at our next leader launch. Let's launch it there. But when we recorded our first batch of episodes in July, I was like, are we really? 00:20:10:04 - 00:20:27:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Do we really want to sit on these pieces of content for that long? And he's like, no, not really. I was like, do we need an in-person event to launch it? He's like, dude, you're the hybrid guy. You tell me what we should do. And I was like, all right, so, one week, let's buy, like, you know, elevated breakfast. 00:20:27:15 - 00:20:46:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, we give donuts every Sunday morning. Let's do, like, breakfast burritos just for our leaders in the later work room. And let's have a little, like, sign in there. This is leader podcast is coming. And then the next week I can't remember what we did. We did something else food breakfast related. And then the final week we blew it up only for our leaders breakfast all the way around. 00:20:46:10 - 00:21:18:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we brought in like, espresso coffee cart. And on the sleeve of the coffee cups, we printed a sticker with a QR code that said Leader Podcast, you know, and so they could scan that so that they could subscribe and all that stuff. And then all those three weeks were doing, like, weekly giveaways. One of the things we did during that three weeks or month of ramp up of launching is I took the the pilot episode and, which is just, you know, my, my boss, selfie style video. 00:21:18:16 - 00:21:36:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I put that video on loop on a TV in our leader workspace. So they walked in and they saw it. And so for three weeks or a month, everything was leader podcast, so everybody knew about it. And then as we've gone as people win stuff and whatever, we'll shout them out. We'll say, hey man, great job. So and so. 00:21:36:20 - 00:21:53:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They got the shout out this week on the podcast that'll be in our leader group chat. And so if they're active in our leader group chat and like they're coming every Sunday to our leader workroom with the prizes on the on the wall, they're they're gonna know about our leader podcast. And so that's how we kind of keep it in front of them. 00:21:53:24 - 00:22:16:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And like I've said, it is is built an amazing amount of camaraderie around and among our leaders. And so that's why I think you should do a weekly leader podcast. It's a month out of our our schedule to film it. And then a little bit of time to edit it and then boom, off we go. So thank you so much for being here at the Hybrid Ministry Podcast. 00:22:16:14 - 00:22:23:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is how I do a weekly leader podcast. And till next time, as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid. 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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:08 - 00:00:45:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Are you looking for and longing for? Youth ministry, leader development that is not dependent upon a leader's attendance to an individual meeting. You know, I even once heard Kurt Johnston, the, famous, like, youth ministry guru from Southern California. He said, you know, your trainings aren't as good as you think. And that was a gut punch, man. Do you want to be in a position where you've communicated to your leaders everything you could possibly ever think that you need to, and still be struggling to find more things to say at your next leader meeting?

00:00:45:02 - 00:01:09:18
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Well, let me tell you how I, as we are rounding out the final episode of this mini series that we've been doing, how I in an individual solo pod, how I produce a weekly leader podcast, and all of the things that I just teased are true of what we have going on in our student ministry and on our weekly leader podcast.

00:01:09:18 - 00:01:34:08
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And as always, there are chapters listed down below in a podcast catch or here on YouTube. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show and the completion of our little mini series, how I. And in this episode, we will talk about how I produce a weekly leader podcast, which is a small sliver to a bigger leader culture strategy.

00:01:34:08 - 00:01:54:25
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And if you want, like all there is to know about youth ministry volunteers, youth ministry leaders, recruiting, retaining all of that, you need to check out the episode that I just most recently dropped with my boss and friend, Erin Sutton, linked right here at the top of the screen. You can go check that out, but this is a small segment of what we do to help create the leader culture that we want.

00:01:54:25 - 00:02:23:29
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With our leaders. And so why a podcast? So let me just back up real quick philosophically and say this. Like, why are we determined and decided that we wanted a leader podcast was we had a monthly leader meeting in our context, and there felt to be so much pressure on that one meeting, for example, like at the August leader meeting or, you know, September leader meeting, we would be like, we need to make sure that we hit all of these onboarding things.

00:02:23:29 - 00:02:47:18
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We need to make sure that our leaders know about all of these resources that we have to offer. We need to like, make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure like give me a like or a subscribe. If you've ever been in a position like that where you just feel like there's so much pressure on your one time once a year, or maybe twice a year gathering of sorts, and then, you know, if you're doing anything which you should, by the way, lean into the download Youth Ministry, National Day of Volunteer Training.

00:02:47:23 - 00:03:09:08
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Like those those pieces of content and those like events are fantastic momentum builders for you and your team. We're a part of it. We're a customer, so you should check it out. Getting zero kickback from promoting it, but link down below if you're interested in the National Day information. But like if you do those things, you also feel the pressure at those leader meetings like, oh, I got them all together.

00:03:09:08 - 00:03:32:28
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I got them all in the room. I gotta make sure I cover all the things that I need to cover. And because of that tension that we felt and we were experiencing, finally I proposed and pitched this idea to my bosses like, let's what if we came up with a weekly leader podcast and I was on an episode, of another podcast, the next Gen coaching Podcast with, Ryan Manning?

00:03:32:29 - 00:03:52:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll link that episode down below. And I told him we had a weekly leader podcast and that it's video based, and he was like weekly, And you could tell his wheels are turning because he had a podcast, but it wasn't weekly. And the reason that I push so hard for weekly. And before you turn this off, like, remember the chapters down below if you wanna skip this part.

00:03:52:23 - 00:04:14:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the reason I push so hard for weekly is because that is your best chance to actually create a little bit of momentum and actually get your leaders to begin adopting the rhythm and the practice, if they can expect it weekly. Now, what we as churches often default into is we don't think we have the ability to produce it weekly because let's be honest, we're producing a lot of other things weekly.

00:04:14:00 - 00:04:29:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've got a weekly program and a weekly sermon and a weekly worship service, like all those things. And so we're like, let's not let's start with what we know we can achieve. Not a bad strategy, but let me tell you how we do it and how we can achieve it with only one hour per month worth of work.

00:04:29:20 - 00:05:01:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay, so, I went in for the weekly, push and we wanted to make the podcast less than 15 minute weekly commitment for our leaders, and we wanted them to hit it. You know, we drop it every single Monday morning. They can consume it whenever they choose to, but the idea is if they are like avid listeners or they're listening regularly, they're getting it on their, you know, first 15 minutes on their way to work Monday morning, it drops super duper early, like 5:00 in the morning.

00:05:01:15 - 00:05:20:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So hopefully that catches any leader on their commute. You know, we live in the DFW area, so a fair bit of our leaders commute pretty far. And so we wanted them to be able to catch it in their car on their way to work. All right. And within that, within us doing it weekly, we were able to hit because of the frequency.

00:05:20:16 - 00:05:43:17
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We're able to hit so many different training topics, and we're able to cover so much more ground on the information or the communication or the announcement side of what we wanted our leaders to get with just simply choosing to do it weekly. And by doing that, it also has had some other side benefits, such as help reinforce and build the culture that we want within our youth ministry.

00:05:43:20 - 00:06:04:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's brought our group chat to life because there's a weekly piece of content being delivered directly to them that they interact with, and then they'll make fun of us and throw jokes and memes and all the things that serve to build and reinforce our leader culture. So that's the why. That's why we chose philosophically. Those were our goals, those were our desires with it.

00:06:04:24 - 00:06:22:27
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And so because of that, if you're interested, if you're like, yeah, I got it, I'm in I my trainings aren't as good as I think they are. Thanks Kurt Johnston for that. But I want to offer some, some ongoing kind of training for my leaders on the go as you go. How do you do that? How do you do it in less than 15 minutes?

00:06:22:27 - 00:06:41:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do you do it in less than one hour per month? Let me tell you how. Let's happen. You ready to start a podcast? You need to determine a podcast host. And here, just down below, there's going to be links to all of these and a list of them. And then I'm going to tell you what we use in our context.

00:06:41:04 - 00:07:08:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you need to choose some sort of podcast host that's going to have some sort of monthly fee associated with it. Less than $20, $20 is probably the absolute cap. But you could look into, service like Libsyn, Podbean, Buzzsprout, Spreaker Simple cast blueberry transistor casters captivate rss.com, Spotify, a gas megaphone, paddle matic and SoundCloud. I don't use any of those.

00:07:08:04 - 00:07:34:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, we actually use is we use nucleus. And if you've been listening to any of my, things on communication, nucleus is our website builder. And nucleus has a built in podcast catcher and RSS feed creator. And now if you are using nucleus for your wider church podcast, they only give you one. So if you're already using your utilizing some sort of podcast RSS feed, then you're going to need to go and get another one.

00:07:34:28 - 00:07:58:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And nucleus doesn't offer the ability to have a second, podcast or a second RSS feed. However, if you are in a bigger church and they do have some sort of like podcast hosting thing, just think for like your past their sermons and let's say they're using something like a Libsyn go talk to your communications director or explore what, account features are available to you, and see if you can add on a second podcast on your podcast hosting feed.

00:07:59:03 - 00:08:20:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What you need from your podcast hosting feed is what's called the RSS feed. The RSS feed is how podcasts are distributed to their catchers. And so there's essentially three main podcasts, services out there. There's YouTube, which is honestly not very good, but YouTube is kind of taking over the world. So I'm just not I'm not ignoring it right now.

00:08:20:02 - 00:08:47:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can use YouTube's RSS feed, but you're going to need to get that unique RSS feed from your podcast host. There's also Spotify, and then there's also Apple Podcasts. And those are really it. Now you might be thinking there's other podcast catchers out there like I used for something called Castbox. And yes, I do. However, Castbox uses the Apple RSS feed and converts it over so I can get it on an Android phone because I don't have access to the Apple Podcast catcher.

00:08:47:12 - 00:09:09:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like I said, the main ones Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube. Okay, and so you're also going to need to create a show, create a podcast in those individual things, and then you're going to need to take your RSS feed from your host and import it into those things your Apple Podcasts, your Spotify, your YouTube. Now listen, you will hate your life the day that you choose to do that.

00:09:09:21 - 00:09:31:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You will hate your life. You're going to need emails and you're going to need two factor authentication. You're going to need phone numbers. Let me just give you a quick tidbit on that. Create something that is not dependent upon you. Don't use your personal email. Don't use your personal phone. If you need to set up like a Google Voice number that you can receive text messages from.

00:09:31:02 - 00:09:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
For the codes for your new Apple podcast, sign on things and off you go. All right. And then save those in a spreadsheet because heaven forbid, I know you're not thinking about leaving your church anytime soon, but one day you might. And you don't want those codes coming to your personal cell phone because the fact is, you're not going to need to log into these things are much of a regular basis.

00:09:54:00 - 00:10:12:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You need to get them started, kind of set it and forget it. But when you're setting it, just make sure you set it up in such a way that it can live beyond your tenure at your church. That's small hack. You'll thank me later. And then once you get those things set up, you're ready to get going. You're ready to make it happen.

00:10:12:14 - 00:10:31:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you want to do some sort of ramp up launch, I have, in just second chapter down below how to launch it. Well, and how we did it and how we got the word out and all those things you are going to need a show to be on your RSS feed. You are going to need some sort of show to to kind of trigger the beginning of your thing.

00:10:31:21 - 00:10:52:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So consider a trailer, consider some sort of like, teaser of sorts. You know, we I have my boss shoot like a selfie style video less than 60s. And that was our very first episode. But then we use that kind of as promo. And I also got the feeds for Spotify, for Apple Podcasts, and for YouTube kind of started so that we could start pointing people to those things.

00:10:52:29 - 00:11:13:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They could start subscribing and they could start bookmarking and all those things on their devices. All right. Now, what about gear? Well, you're in luck. I have, a blog and, former episode on my podcast listed down below in the show notes hybrid ministry that xyzzy slash articles slash studio. And in that you're going to want to scroll to the podcast Mike section.

00:11:13:24 - 00:11:41:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those are the microphones that we use. We also use videos so you can see the the camera that we use there on that same blog. Or you can set up a cell phone camera, which, by the way, full disclosure. So what I'm using right now here on this episode, and you can set up, a camera if you do want to have video, we use, so we do use the YouTube RSS feed, like I said, but I also post individually in its own YouTube playlist, our videos.

00:11:41:06 - 00:12:00:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So our leaders have the option for audio. They also have the option for video. And there are some things that are fun for them to see on on video. Like one time every episode, me and my friend Darren, we cheers like 3 to 1 cheers. And then one one week we did like, we were like, let's break these mugs.

00:12:00:18 - 00:12:14:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we went cheers. Because they're almost always empty. Because we act like it's the morning. But we often film like in the afternoon or whatever. And so they're almost always empty. And so we'll like clink real hard and like, you can tell there's no coffee. And, you know, we'll joke about how there's no coffee and then we're faking it or whatever, all the things.

00:12:14:19 - 00:12:29:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the last time we crashed the mugs together, and then we'll just say something like, if you're not watching, you're definitely going to want to go back and watch that one, right? And so if you want a camera, get a camera. If you want the podcast mix, just check those links out down below and we'll get you taken care of for that.

00:12:29:13 - 00:12:47:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. So what about the format. What do we do on our show? Like I said, our goal is 15 minutes or less. Honestly, we almost always, go ten or less. And so part of the way that we're able to do it is we don't sit down. We don't do a new half long form podcast, no Shade to carry.

00:12:47:01 - 00:13:09:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He's the goat at what he does. But we our goal is 10 or 15 minutes or less with a nugget of training. Okay. And so here is our, format. So when we sit down to record, we batch record, we record for at a time essentially a month's worth of podcasts, and we sort of create little mini series within those four months.

00:13:09:05 - 00:13:29:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Here's the thing. You're a youth pastor, you're in on church communications. You are good at creating series. So create a series of training topics. Let me just give you a few of the ones that we've done in our context. So we've done a podcast called The Secret Stuff, like the Secret Sauce to having a great youth ministry small group.

00:13:29:25 - 00:13:47:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there's like, you know, your quiet time and your prayer life and those types of things. We also did a let's envision a students experience from the parking lot to the front door to in our main room to in a small group. And so those are all four different little episodes, right? They all kind of build off each other.

00:13:47:21 - 00:14:05:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We did this little series on why certain stuff matters. So we do yearly debriefs with all of our leaders. So why debriefs matter? Why fun matters like camps or retreats matter. Why group covenants matter? This was sort of during the holidays. We did a bunch of one offs like five tips for caring for Hurting Teens. The ten Minute Rule Ministry.

00:14:05:21 - 00:14:30:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
During the holidays, we did a little four part series on on Generation Alpha and what makes them different. We talked about, some like group tips, like how to lean into the awkward silences, how to, when you're allowed to skip the lesson, this game changer that you won't want to miss? We have, like, a little, moniker in our student ministry where we say students are welcomed, wanted, needed and known.

00:14:30:27 - 00:14:54:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we did an episode on welcome to didn't episode on wanted. We did an episode on needed, and then we did an episode Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry. Right. So as you can see, those are just some ideas for content that you can use. And so we, we block them like that, we sit down, we record in a one hour block, we record all the audio, we record all the video, we don't break, we, we start recording.

00:14:54:17 - 00:15:10:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then when we're done, we're done. And we keep everything rolling. The video is still rolling, the audio is still rolling. And then we'll talk for a minute. We got a little, you know, a little table or sheet you can see down below. Our at all let you see like our videos and stuff like that. You can go check out what we do.

00:15:10:25 - 00:15:26:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got a little sheet. So we'll talk for a minute. We'll, we'll make sure. Who are we? You know, shouting out all the stuff. We'll get to all that in a minute. But that's, that's how we block record. Then the format of our show is in three parts a shout out, the piece of content or the little nugget of training or whatever we want it to be.

00:15:27:05 - 00:15:49:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally we'll end with, some sort of story and we call it story time. And so those are our three segments. And so, any time we, we start in our four part series, the very first episode of that, our shout out is for anyone who's new to our team. And so, whenever someone would join our team, historically, we would want to like at the next leader lunch or whatever, say, hey, thanks so much for being here.

00:15:49:07 - 00:16:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is so and so. Here's a little leader gift for them. Welcome to the team. Right. Well we were forgetting that. Sort of like let's just add it to the podcast and then we take their little leader gift which is a mug, and we store it for them in our leader work room, we have a little whiteboard we write, welcome to the team.

00:16:03:16 - 00:16:23:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So and so we draw a little arrow, grab your mug okay. And we actually kind of create a little section in our, our leader room. Like our workroom which is all like podcast prizes. Okay. So after the first episode, then we do some sort of shout out, so what's a leader that's been crushing it? We shout them out and we'll often give something away.

00:16:23:20 - 00:16:42:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's, you know, around Christmas we'll give them, like, a silly mug. Recently we got some, like, free ice cream gift cards. We'll give away the ice cream gift cards, like, whatever we kind of have laying around. You don't have to do that, but we'll do some sort of giveaway. I use sidekick for that, put all of their names into the picture, and I just create some sort of criteria.

00:16:42:11 - 00:17:00:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like, hey, if you came to the last leader lunch, your name is in the picture. If you've already, RSVP to the next leader lunch at time of recording, your name is in the picture. You get the drill and then sometimes, instead of creating shout outs and doing a giveaway, we will do leader Roulette. So we'll put their names in for some reason.

00:17:00:06 - 00:17:19:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
RSVP to the thing, right? And then, their name pops up. We don't know. We run it on sidekick. Whoever pops up will say, hey, you want ice cream? And, here's a shout out. And so we call it leader Shout out roulette. We tell them like, we don't know who's going to pop up. So we're going to be coming up with these shout outs kind of on the fly.

00:17:19:14 - 00:17:39:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's a fun little challenge. Then we hop into the content. You heard some of the content that we've done over the last year. And then finally we end with some sort of story. And that's a way for us to, you know, think youth group chronicles, like it's those, those types of stories that are happening within our youth ministry or a funny story that we have heard about or something that's even happened in our past.

00:17:39:22 - 00:18:05:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those are, hard to to get at first. But once our leaders start listening, they start telling us stuff and we always blur and bleep out all of the students name. So if a student ever runs across this on our YouTube channel, they're not feeling like isolated or whatever, and we make the stories vague enough that they're not going to know, and, and, you know, we just kind of go from there and students don't really listen to these anyway, but if they do ever stumble across them, they're not going to be hopefully embarrassed.

00:18:05:20 - 00:18:23:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, last thing you've done all the work you've bought, all the gear, you've come up with, the format, you've started filming all those things. How then do you launch it? I'm glad you asked. Let's check it out. Last section. So this is what we did. We created a little stickers on Sticker Mule with a QR code that took them to our website.

00:18:24:00 - 00:18:43:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll link the website down below, which pulled in a section of our playlist from our nucleus, sermons kind of database. And then, and the way that I schedule that is we schedule, like I said, a weekly message. And so the leader podcast drops at five on a Monday. And then the the message of the week drops at six.

00:18:43:05 - 00:19:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's our sermon that we're teaching that Wednesday night. But remember, we pre-filled those that drops at six. And so when you go on our main page, the most recent message is going to be there because it posted one hour after the Leader podcast. So the only time the Leader podcast is highlighted on the main section of our website is from 5:00 am to 6 a.m. Monday morning.

00:19:03:18 - 00:19:25:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you go to the leader page on our website, it's highlighting the leader podcast playlist. So we make sure whenever we post that it's leader podcast playlist and that that little, playlist is a featured section on the website there. But so we, created a QR code to that section of the website, to that playlist.

00:19:25:14 - 00:19:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then we also put a little piece of copy like, hey, make sure you subscribe, make sure you whatever. And we did a giveaway, right. The first round of podcasts I put in like our group chat screenshot that you are subscribed to our leader podcast, and anyone who screenshotted it and posted it in our group chat, they had an opportunity to win something, to put their names in sidekick and that honestly, that kind of started the whole giveaway thing and now it's just kind of a staple of what we did.

00:19:50:00 - 00:20:10:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We didn't go into it with that. The that being the intention, but that's kind of how it started. And then we did three weeks worth of like promotion around it. And what's funny is my boss was like, let's do this at our next leader launch. Let's launch it there. But when we recorded our first batch of episodes in July, I was like, are we really?

00:20:10:04 - 00:20:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do we really want to sit on these pieces of content for that long? And he's like, no, not really. I was like, do we need an in-person event to launch it? He's like, dude, you're the hybrid guy. You tell me what we should do. And I was like, all right, so, one week, let's buy, like, you know, elevated breakfast.

00:20:27:15 - 00:20:46:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, we give donuts every Sunday morning. Let's do, like, breakfast burritos just for our leaders in the later work room. And let's have a little, like, sign in there. This is leader podcast is coming. And then the next week I can't remember what we did. We did something else food breakfast related. And then the final week we blew it up only for our leaders breakfast all the way around.

00:20:46:10 - 00:21:18:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we brought in like, espresso coffee cart. And on the sleeve of the coffee cups, we printed a sticker with a QR code that said Leader Podcast, you know, and so they could scan that so that they could subscribe and all that stuff. And then all those three weeks were doing, like, weekly giveaways. One of the things we did during that three weeks or month of ramp up of launching is I took the the pilot episode and, which is just, you know, my, my boss, selfie style video.

00:21:18:16 - 00:21:36:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I put that video on loop on a TV in our leader workspace. So they walked in and they saw it. And so for three weeks or a month, everything was leader podcast, so everybody knew about it. And then as we've gone as people win stuff and whatever, we'll shout them out. We'll say, hey man, great job. So and so.

00:21:36:20 - 00:21:53:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They got the shout out this week on the podcast that'll be in our leader group chat. And so if they're active in our leader group chat and like they're coming every Sunday to our leader workroom with the prizes on the on the wall, they're they're gonna know about our leader podcast. And so that's how we kind of keep it in front of them.

00:21:53:24 - 00:22:16:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And like I've said, it is is built an amazing amount of camaraderie around and among our leaders. And so that's why I think you should do a weekly leader podcast. It's a month out of our our schedule to film it. And then a little bit of time to edit it and then boom, off we go. So thank you so much for being here at the Hybrid Ministry Podcast.

00:22:16:14 - 00:22:23:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is how I do a weekly leader podcast. And till next time, as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:08 - 00:00:45:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Are you looking for and longing for? Youth ministry, leader development that is not dependent upon a leader's attendance to an individual meeting. You know, I even once heard Kurt Johnston, the, famous, like, youth ministry guru from Southern California. He said, you know, your trainings aren't as good as you think. And that was a gut punch, man. Do you want to be in a position where you've communicated to your leaders everything you could possibly ever think that you need to, and still be struggling to find more things to say at your next leader meeting?

00:00:45:02 - 00:01:09:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, let me tell you how I, as we are rounding out the final episode of this mini series that we've been doing, how I in an individual solo pod, how I produce a weekly leader podcast, and all of the things that I just teased are true of what we have going on in our student ministry and on our weekly leader podcast.

00:01:09:18 - 00:01:34:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as always, there are chapters listed down below in a podcast catch or here on YouTube. Welcome my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry show. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show and the completion of our little mini series, how I. And in this episode, we will talk about how I produce a weekly leader podcast, which is a small sliver to a bigger leader culture strategy.

00:01:34:08 - 00:01:54:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you want, like all there is to know about youth ministry volunteers, youth ministry leaders, recruiting, retaining all of that, you need to check out the episode that I just most recently dropped with my boss and friend, Erin Sutton, linked right here at the top of the screen. You can go check that out, but this is a small segment of what we do to help create the leader culture that we want.

00:01:54:25 - 00:02:23:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
With our leaders. And so why a podcast? So let me just back up real quick philosophically and say this. Like, why are we determined and decided that we wanted a leader podcast was we had a monthly leader meeting in our context, and there felt to be so much pressure on that one meeting, for example, like at the August leader meeting or, you know, September leader meeting, we would be like, we need to make sure that we hit all of these onboarding things.

00:02:23:29 - 00:02:47:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We need to make sure that our leaders know about all of these resources that we have to offer. We need to like, make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure like give me a like or a subscribe. If you've ever been in a position like that where you just feel like there's so much pressure on your one time once a year, or maybe twice a year gathering of sorts, and then, you know, if you're doing anything which you should, by the way, lean into the download Youth Ministry, National Day of Volunteer Training.

00:02:47:23 - 00:03:09:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like those those pieces of content and those like events are fantastic momentum builders for you and your team. We're a part of it. We're a customer, so you should check it out. Getting zero kickback from promoting it, but link down below if you're interested in the National Day information. But like if you do those things, you also feel the pressure at those leader meetings like, oh, I got them all together.

00:03:09:08 - 00:03:32:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I got them all in the room. I gotta make sure I cover all the things that I need to cover. And because of that tension that we felt and we were experiencing, finally I proposed and pitched this idea to my bosses like, let's what if we came up with a weekly leader podcast and I was on an episode, of another podcast, the next Gen coaching Podcast with, Ryan Manning?

00:03:32:29 - 00:03:52:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll link that episode down below. And I told him we had a weekly leader podcast and that it's video based, and he was like weekly, And you could tell his wheels are turning because he had a podcast, but it wasn't weekly. And the reason that I push so hard for weekly. And before you turn this off, like, remember the chapters down below if you wanna skip this part.

00:03:52:23 - 00:04:14:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the reason I push so hard for weekly is because that is your best chance to actually create a little bit of momentum and actually get your leaders to begin adopting the rhythm and the practice, if they can expect it weekly. Now, what we as churches often default into is we don't think we have the ability to produce it weekly because let's be honest, we're producing a lot of other things weekly.

00:04:14:00 - 00:04:29:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've got a weekly program and a weekly sermon and a weekly worship service, like all those things. And so we're like, let's not let's start with what we know we can achieve. Not a bad strategy, but let me tell you how we do it and how we can achieve it with only one hour per month worth of work.

00:04:29:20 - 00:05:01:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay, so, I went in for the weekly, push and we wanted to make the podcast less than 15 minute weekly commitment for our leaders, and we wanted them to hit it. You know, we drop it every single Monday morning. They can consume it whenever they choose to, but the idea is if they are like avid listeners or they're listening regularly, they're getting it on their, you know, first 15 minutes on their way to work Monday morning, it drops super duper early, like 5:00 in the morning.

00:05:01:15 - 00:05:20:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So hopefully that catches any leader on their commute. You know, we live in the DFW area, so a fair bit of our leaders commute pretty far. And so we wanted them to be able to catch it in their car on their way to work. All right. And within that, within us doing it weekly, we were able to hit because of the frequency.

00:05:20:16 - 00:05:43:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're able to hit so many different training topics, and we're able to cover so much more ground on the information or the communication or the announcement side of what we wanted our leaders to get with just simply choosing to do it weekly. And by doing that, it also has had some other side benefits, such as help reinforce and build the culture that we want within our youth ministry.

00:05:43:20 - 00:06:04:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's brought our group chat to life because there's a weekly piece of content being delivered directly to them that they interact with, and then they'll make fun of us and throw jokes and memes and all the things that serve to build and reinforce our leader culture. So that's the why. That's why we chose philosophically. Those were our goals, those were our desires with it.

00:06:04:24 - 00:06:22:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so because of that, if you're interested, if you're like, yeah, I got it, I'm in I my trainings aren't as good as I think they are. Thanks Kurt Johnston for that. But I want to offer some, some ongoing kind of training for my leaders on the go as you go. How do you do that? How do you do it in less than 15 minutes?

00:06:22:27 - 00:06:41:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do you do it in less than one hour per month? Let me tell you how. Let's happen. You ready to start a podcast? You need to determine a podcast host. And here, just down below, there's going to be links to all of these and a list of them. And then I'm going to tell you what we use in our context.

00:06:41:04 - 00:07:08:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you need to choose some sort of podcast host that's going to have some sort of monthly fee associated with it. Less than $20, $20 is probably the absolute cap. But you could look into, service like Libsyn, Podbean, Buzzsprout, Spreaker Simple cast blueberry transistor casters captivate rss.com, Spotify, a gas megaphone, paddle matic and SoundCloud. I don't use any of those.

00:07:08:04 - 00:07:34:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well, we actually use is we use nucleus. And if you've been listening to any of my, things on communication, nucleus is our website builder. And nucleus has a built in podcast catcher and RSS feed creator. And now if you are using nucleus for your wider church podcast, they only give you one. So if you're already using your utilizing some sort of podcast RSS feed, then you're going to need to go and get another one.

00:07:34:28 - 00:07:58:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And nucleus doesn't offer the ability to have a second, podcast or a second RSS feed. However, if you are in a bigger church and they do have some sort of like podcast hosting thing, just think for like your past their sermons and let's say they're using something like a Libsyn go talk to your communications director or explore what, account features are available to you, and see if you can add on a second podcast on your podcast hosting feed.

00:07:59:03 - 00:08:20:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What you need from your podcast hosting feed is what's called the RSS feed. The RSS feed is how podcasts are distributed to their catchers. And so there's essentially three main podcasts, services out there. There's YouTube, which is honestly not very good, but YouTube is kind of taking over the world. So I'm just not I'm not ignoring it right now.

00:08:20:02 - 00:08:47:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can use YouTube's RSS feed, but you're going to need to get that unique RSS feed from your podcast host. There's also Spotify, and then there's also Apple Podcasts. And those are really it. Now you might be thinking there's other podcast catchers out there like I used for something called Castbox. And yes, I do. However, Castbox uses the Apple RSS feed and converts it over so I can get it on an Android phone because I don't have access to the Apple Podcast catcher.

00:08:47:12 - 00:09:09:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like I said, the main ones Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube. Okay, and so you're also going to need to create a show, create a podcast in those individual things, and then you're going to need to take your RSS feed from your host and import it into those things your Apple Podcasts, your Spotify, your YouTube. Now listen, you will hate your life the day that you choose to do that.

00:09:09:21 - 00:09:31:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You will hate your life. You're going to need emails and you're going to need two factor authentication. You're going to need phone numbers. Let me just give you a quick tidbit on that. Create something that is not dependent upon you. Don't use your personal email. Don't use your personal phone. If you need to set up like a Google Voice number that you can receive text messages from.

00:09:31:02 - 00:09:54:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
For the codes for your new Apple podcast, sign on things and off you go. All right. And then save those in a spreadsheet because heaven forbid, I know you're not thinking about leaving your church anytime soon, but one day you might. And you don't want those codes coming to your personal cell phone because the fact is, you're not going to need to log into these things are much of a regular basis.

00:09:54:00 - 00:10:12:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You need to get them started, kind of set it and forget it. But when you're setting it, just make sure you set it up in such a way that it can live beyond your tenure at your church. That's small hack. You'll thank me later. And then once you get those things set up, you're ready to get going. You're ready to make it happen.

00:10:12:14 - 00:10:31:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you want to do some sort of ramp up launch, I have, in just second chapter down below how to launch it. Well, and how we did it and how we got the word out and all those things you are going to need a show to be on your RSS feed. You are going to need some sort of show to to kind of trigger the beginning of your thing.

00:10:31:21 - 00:10:52:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So consider a trailer, consider some sort of like, teaser of sorts. You know, we I have my boss shoot like a selfie style video less than 60s. And that was our very first episode. But then we use that kind of as promo. And I also got the feeds for Spotify, for Apple Podcasts, and for YouTube kind of started so that we could start pointing people to those things.

00:10:52:29 - 00:11:13:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They could start subscribing and they could start bookmarking and all those things on their devices. All right. Now, what about gear? Well, you're in luck. I have, a blog and, former episode on my podcast listed down below in the show notes hybrid ministry that xyzzy slash articles slash studio. And in that you're going to want to scroll to the podcast Mike section.

00:11:13:24 - 00:11:41:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those are the microphones that we use. We also use videos so you can see the the camera that we use there on that same blog. Or you can set up a cell phone camera, which, by the way, full disclosure. So what I'm using right now here on this episode, and you can set up, a camera if you do want to have video, we use, so we do use the YouTube RSS feed, like I said, but I also post individually in its own YouTube playlist, our videos.

00:11:41:06 - 00:12:00:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So our leaders have the option for audio. They also have the option for video. And there are some things that are fun for them to see on on video. Like one time every episode, me and my friend Darren, we cheers like 3 to 1 cheers. And then one one week we did like, we were like, let's break these mugs.

00:12:00:18 - 00:12:14:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we went cheers. Because they're almost always empty. Because we act like it's the morning. But we often film like in the afternoon or whatever. And so they're almost always empty. And so we'll like clink real hard and like, you can tell there's no coffee. And, you know, we'll joke about how there's no coffee and then we're faking it or whatever, all the things.

00:12:14:19 - 00:12:29:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the last time we crashed the mugs together, and then we'll just say something like, if you're not watching, you're definitely going to want to go back and watch that one, right? And so if you want a camera, get a camera. If you want the podcast mix, just check those links out down below and we'll get you taken care of for that.

00:12:29:13 - 00:12:47:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. So what about the format. What do we do on our show? Like I said, our goal is 15 minutes or less. Honestly, we almost always, go ten or less. And so part of the way that we're able to do it is we don't sit down. We don't do a new half long form podcast, no Shade to carry.

00:12:47:01 - 00:13:09:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
He's the goat at what he does. But we our goal is 10 or 15 minutes or less with a nugget of training. Okay. And so here is our, format. So when we sit down to record, we batch record, we record for at a time essentially a month's worth of podcasts, and we sort of create little mini series within those four months.

00:13:09:05 - 00:13:29:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Here's the thing. You're a youth pastor, you're in on church communications. You are good at creating series. So create a series of training topics. Let me just give you a few of the ones that we've done in our context. So we've done a podcast called The Secret Stuff, like the Secret Sauce to having a great youth ministry small group.

00:13:29:25 - 00:13:47:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there's like, you know, your quiet time and your prayer life and those types of things. We also did a let's envision a students experience from the parking lot to the front door to in our main room to in a small group. And so those are all four different little episodes, right? They all kind of build off each other.

00:13:47:21 - 00:14:05:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We did this little series on why certain stuff matters. So we do yearly debriefs with all of our leaders. So why debriefs matter? Why fun matters like camps or retreats matter. Why group covenants matter? This was sort of during the holidays. We did a bunch of one offs like five tips for caring for Hurting Teens. The ten Minute Rule Ministry.

00:14:05:21 - 00:14:30:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
During the holidays, we did a little four part series on on Generation Alpha and what makes them different. We talked about, some like group tips, like how to lean into the awkward silences, how to, when you're allowed to skip the lesson, this game changer that you won't want to miss? We have, like, a little, moniker in our student ministry where we say students are welcomed, wanted, needed and known.

00:14:30:27 - 00:14:54:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we did an episode on welcome to didn't episode on wanted. We did an episode on needed, and then we did an episode Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry. Right. So as you can see, those are just some ideas for content that you can use. And so we, we block them like that, we sit down, we record in a one hour block, we record all the audio, we record all the video, we don't break, we, we start recording.

00:14:54:17 - 00:15:10:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then when we're done, we're done. And we keep everything rolling. The video is still rolling, the audio is still rolling. And then we'll talk for a minute. We got a little, you know, a little table or sheet you can see down below. Our at all let you see like our videos and stuff like that. You can go check out what we do.

00:15:10:25 - 00:15:26:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got a little sheet. So we'll talk for a minute. We'll, we'll make sure. Who are we? You know, shouting out all the stuff. We'll get to all that in a minute. But that's, that's how we block record. Then the format of our show is in three parts a shout out, the piece of content or the little nugget of training or whatever we want it to be.

00:15:27:05 - 00:15:49:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then finally we'll end with, some sort of story and we call it story time. And so those are our three segments. And so, any time we, we start in our four part series, the very first episode of that, our shout out is for anyone who's new to our team. And so, whenever someone would join our team, historically, we would want to like at the next leader lunch or whatever, say, hey, thanks so much for being here.

00:15:49:07 - 00:16:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is so and so. Here's a little leader gift for them. Welcome to the team. Right. Well we were forgetting that. Sort of like let's just add it to the podcast and then we take their little leader gift which is a mug, and we store it for them in our leader work room, we have a little whiteboard we write, welcome to the team.

00:16:03:16 - 00:16:23:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So and so we draw a little arrow, grab your mug okay. And we actually kind of create a little section in our, our leader room. Like our workroom which is all like podcast prizes. Okay. So after the first episode, then we do some sort of shout out, so what's a leader that's been crushing it? We shout them out and we'll often give something away.

00:16:23:20 - 00:16:42:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's, you know, around Christmas we'll give them, like, a silly mug. Recently we got some, like, free ice cream gift cards. We'll give away the ice cream gift cards, like, whatever we kind of have laying around. You don't have to do that, but we'll do some sort of giveaway. I use sidekick for that, put all of their names into the picture, and I just create some sort of criteria.

00:16:42:11 - 00:17:00:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like, hey, if you came to the last leader lunch, your name is in the picture. If you've already, RSVP to the next leader lunch at time of recording, your name is in the picture. You get the drill and then sometimes, instead of creating shout outs and doing a giveaway, we will do leader Roulette. So we'll put their names in for some reason.

00:17:00:06 - 00:17:19:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
RSVP to the thing, right? And then, their name pops up. We don't know. We run it on sidekick. Whoever pops up will say, hey, you want ice cream? And, here's a shout out. And so we call it leader Shout out roulette. We tell them like, we don't know who's going to pop up. So we're going to be coming up with these shout outs kind of on the fly.

00:17:19:14 - 00:17:39:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's a fun little challenge. Then we hop into the content. You heard some of the content that we've done over the last year. And then finally we end with some sort of story. And that's a way for us to, you know, think youth group chronicles, like it's those, those types of stories that are happening within our youth ministry or a funny story that we have heard about or something that's even happened in our past.

00:17:39:22 - 00:18:05:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And those are, hard to to get at first. But once our leaders start listening, they start telling us stuff and we always blur and bleep out all of the students name. So if a student ever runs across this on our YouTube channel, they're not feeling like isolated or whatever, and we make the stories vague enough that they're not going to know, and, and, you know, we just kind of go from there and students don't really listen to these anyway, but if they do ever stumble across them, they're not going to be hopefully embarrassed.

00:18:05:20 - 00:18:23:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, last thing you've done all the work you've bought, all the gear, you've come up with, the format, you've started filming all those things. How then do you launch it? I'm glad you asked. Let's check it out. Last section. So this is what we did. We created a little stickers on Sticker Mule with a QR code that took them to our website.

00:18:24:00 - 00:18:43:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll link the website down below, which pulled in a section of our playlist from our nucleus, sermons kind of database. And then, and the way that I schedule that is we schedule, like I said, a weekly message. And so the leader podcast drops at five on a Monday. And then the the message of the week drops at six.

00:18:43:05 - 00:19:03:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's our sermon that we're teaching that Wednesday night. But remember, we pre-filled those that drops at six. And so when you go on our main page, the most recent message is going to be there because it posted one hour after the Leader podcast. So the only time the Leader podcast is highlighted on the main section of our website is from 5:00 am to 6 a.m. Monday morning.

00:19:03:18 - 00:19:25:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if you go to the leader page on our website, it's highlighting the leader podcast playlist. So we make sure whenever we post that it's leader podcast playlist and that that little, playlist is a featured section on the website there. But so we, created a QR code to that section of the website, to that playlist.

00:19:25:14 - 00:19:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then we also put a little piece of copy like, hey, make sure you subscribe, make sure you whatever. And we did a giveaway, right. The first round of podcasts I put in like our group chat screenshot that you are subscribed to our leader podcast, and anyone who screenshotted it and posted it in our group chat, they had an opportunity to win something, to put their names in sidekick and that honestly, that kind of started the whole giveaway thing and now it's just kind of a staple of what we did.

00:19:50:00 - 00:20:10:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We didn't go into it with that. The that being the intention, but that's kind of how it started. And then we did three weeks worth of like promotion around it. And what's funny is my boss was like, let's do this at our next leader launch. Let's launch it there. But when we recorded our first batch of episodes in July, I was like, are we really?

00:20:10:04 - 00:20:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do we really want to sit on these pieces of content for that long? And he's like, no, not really. I was like, do we need an in-person event to launch it? He's like, dude, you're the hybrid guy. You tell me what we should do. And I was like, all right, so, one week, let's buy, like, you know, elevated breakfast.

00:20:27:15 - 00:20:46:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, we give donuts every Sunday morning. Let's do, like, breakfast burritos just for our leaders in the later work room. And let's have a little, like, sign in there. This is leader podcast is coming. And then the next week I can't remember what we did. We did something else food breakfast related. And then the final week we blew it up only for our leaders breakfast all the way around.

00:20:46:10 - 00:21:18:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we brought in like, espresso coffee cart. And on the sleeve of the coffee cups, we printed a sticker with a QR code that said Leader Podcast, you know, and so they could scan that so that they could subscribe and all that stuff. And then all those three weeks were doing, like, weekly giveaways. One of the things we did during that three weeks or month of ramp up of launching is I took the the pilot episode and, which is just, you know, my, my boss, selfie style video.

00:21:18:16 - 00:21:36:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I put that video on loop on a TV in our leader workspace. So they walked in and they saw it. And so for three weeks or a month, everything was leader podcast, so everybody knew about it. And then as we've gone as people win stuff and whatever, we'll shout them out. We'll say, hey man, great job. So and so.

00:21:36:20 - 00:21:53:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They got the shout out this week on the podcast that'll be in our leader group chat. And so if they're active in our leader group chat and like they're coming every Sunday to our leader workroom with the prizes on the on the wall, they're they're gonna know about our leader podcast. And so that's how we kind of keep it in front of them.

00:21:53:24 - 00:22:16:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And like I've said, it is is built an amazing amount of camaraderie around and among our leaders. And so that's why I think you should do a weekly leader podcast. It's a month out of our our schedule to film it. And then a little bit of time to edit it and then boom, off we go. So thank you so much for being here at the Hybrid Ministry Podcast.

00:22:16:14 - 00:22:23:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is how I do a weekly leader podcast. And till next time, as always my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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But today I've been asking people like, what do you feel like you're kind of like an expert on? So we're in this kind of mini series called How I, and so you said, let's talk about partnering with parents. And so. Josh Boldman (00:06.494) Yes Do I get a jacket like do I get a like there's like a that's true actually, you know, that's fair Josh Boldman (00:29.991) Yeah. Nick Clason (00:31.124) over all your different years of experience, what do you feel like uniquely positions you from a mindset or experience-wise or whatever about this idea of partnering with parents? Josh Boldman (00:38.9) Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, over the course of 20 years in youth ministry, I did the traditional route of before I had a kid, feeling like I knew everything more than any of the parents. Like I was way smarter than them. And then I had my own kid, and then I was able to actually have the blessing of having my own kid in my own ministry. And then recently have now, Nick Clason (00:55.712) yeah. Nick Clason (01:03.937) Mmm. Josh Boldman (01:08.465) like a life stage where my kid is a part of a ministry that I do not lead. And so it's like, there, that's what I should have. Okay, those are the questions that I now have that I should have been answering. Nick Clason (01:13.358) Hmm. Nick Clason (01:19.904) I do actually think that's a really, really fascinating perspective and one worth exploring. So what are a couple of principles or takeaways, especially in the lane of I'm a youth pastor veteran, I work for a youth ministry company, but as a parent, as a customer, so to speak, of this youth group, like what do you wish you were getting back from the youth ministry? Josh Boldman (01:23.826) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (01:35.303) Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (01:42.291) Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something that every youth minister needs to remember is that you are ministering to a family and not just to a student. Hands down, because like a student is a product, I mean, not entirely, but like they're a product of their family, right? Their parents. when you talk, you talk to a kid, half the things they say are things that they have either heard their parents say or they've Nick Clason (01:53.965) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (02:02.028) Yeah. Josh Boldman (02:11.835) or are in like rebellion against something that their parents have said, right? So like, so like the better that you know the parents, the better you are going to know the student. And whether that that kid has a awesome relationship with their parents or a terrible relationship with their parents or no relationship with their parents, whoever it is at home that takes care of them, that makes them feel safe. You are on the same team with that person, whether you know them or not. Nick Clason (02:15.598) Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Nick Clason (02:22.446) Hmm. Nick Clason (02:30.702) Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (02:41.583) And it, it, it, I will be as blunt as I can be in saying if, you're on the same team as that, of those people and you don't know them, that is dumb. Like it just don't, don't put yourself in a position of being on a team with someone you don't even know. Nick Clason (02:50.563) Yeah. Nick Clason (02:56.28) So you've worked in some larger contexts, let's say. How would you recommend someone who has a youth group of 50 students with, let's say, 50 unique family units? so probably more than 50 because siblings, whatever. How do they get to know parents? Because I would imagine the pushback from a youth pastor is like, well, I try. have a well, and we have meetings and they never come to the meetings and all this stuff like what. So. Josh Boldman (03:00.646) Yep. Josh Boldman (03:08.23) Yeah, yeah, Uh-huh. Josh Boldman (03:17.757) Yep, I can't know them all yet. Josh Boldman (03:24.465) Yeah. Yeah. Nick Clason (03:24.812) We've all been there, we've all experienced it. what, as a parent now on the other side, give us some tips. Josh Boldman (03:30.418) Yeah, yeah, I would say one, especially if you're talking about a middle school ministry, do check in at the beginning of the night and be at the check-in station. And I know that seems so like antithetical to like, I should be hanging out with the kids. you know, yes, that's great. Go play nine square, go play gaga ball, whatever, but spend some time at check-in because especially if they're in sixth, seventh, eighth grade, their parents are going to probably walk in with them. Nick Clason (03:42.775) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (03:51.938) Yeah. Nick Clason (03:56.471) Right. Josh Boldman (04:00.274) Like, so that's a great opportunity. but even if it's not then like clock the times that, know, like, Hey, when are my best opportunities to meet this parent? And it's, it's almost always going to be a drop-off pickup. Um, we, know, sometimes we'll do like, uh, you know, depending on like the layout of your building and how close the room is to the actual parking lot. Like, um, we used to do a thing where we'd have somebody inside with a walkie talkie and somebody outside with a walkie talkie. So what a parent would pull up. they would say, hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. And so the person on the radio would be like, Johnny. And so then we'd call Johnny's name inside. I was like, why am I not the person outside with the walkie talkie? Like go be that person talking to the parent. you know, that, you know, and, plus one of the best things you can do in that situation is they're like, Hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. You can be like, dude, Johnny's awesome. Like, let me tell you about Johnny. Johnny is so stinking cool. Yup. Yeah. Nick Clason (04:30.774) Hmm. Nick Clason (04:40.906) Yeah, that's so smart. Nick Clason (04:50.902) Yeah, and what parent doesn't want to hear that about their kid? Josh Boldman (04:56.562) Oh yeah, cause think of every time a parent gets called by a teacher, it's to tell them that their kid's not doing great. know, so like if you can be like the one time that you like, or I mean, if you're open enough to literally calling parents, like go call a parent and be like, Hey, I need to tell you something about Johnny. And they're like, what do you do now? They're like, he was amazing. Like, you know, and I mean, don't lie about Johnny. Like if Johnny's a little turd, like, know, you can be honest about it, but like, don't, but don't drag Johnny through. Nick Clason (05:02.294) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (05:14.924) Yeah, yeah. That's cool, yeah. Yeah. Josh Boldman (05:26.62) You know, go out of your way to tell them how awesome it is. Nick Clason (05:26.872) Yeah. Nick Clason (05:30.284) Yeah, that's so good. It's like the whole idea of positive reinforcement versus negative, so much more powerful. And we can just be strategic and intentional to position ourselves to do that. Even if you're like, I'll give myself 20 minutes on the calendar a week and I'll try to call as many parents and just say something nice about their kids. And if they're quick conversations or even, bro, leave a voicemail. Maybe they don't answer, whatever. It'll still be awesome. can be like, okay, no need to Josh Boldman (05:33.859) Mm-hmm. Totally, totally. Josh Boldman (05:46.779) Yeah. yeah. Josh Boldman (05:56.422) Yeah! Nick Clason (05:59.67) No need to call back, just wanted to let you know whatever, that'd be really good. Josh Boldman (06:01.999) Yeah. Yeah. And especially if you know, you have a kid who is, you know, mean, gosh, I don't know what it has been about the, you know, the 20 years I spent in ministry, but it was like, it was just like every kid with an attention deficit of something, something, something like they all just showed up at our ministry. Right. It was grabbing it, which is a lot of fun. I'm just like, I'll be the first to say like, it is a party, but yes. man. Until the broken arms, but Nick Clason (06:16.854) Mm-hmm Nick Clason (06:26.348) You had fun during the games. haha Josh Boldman (06:30.781) you would, but the thing was, is you would see parents drop off their kids and those parents were exhausted, right? And they were just like exasperated. Like they are saying like, Hey, please help. And also please give me a break for a minute. And so like, if you can call and like, if they, you know that they're having trouble with their kid at school and you can then brag about something awesome about that kid, like I cannot tell you how that feels. you know, just to be able to know like, cause Nick Clason (06:36.013) Mmm. Nick Clason (06:44.053) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (06:49.464) Yeah. Nick Clason (06:56.216) Yeah. Josh Boldman (07:00.066) And you know, let's call it what it is. Parents need to hear that not everybody hates their kid. Like, I mean, I know that sounds harsh, but like... Nick Clason (07:05.15) Mm-hmm. Well, no, you're always questioning, like, are our kids weird? are they? You're always asking that thing. Josh Boldman (07:10.244) Right? Yes. It's like, it's like my own kid. Like I love my kid, but I don't know how other people feel about him unless they tell me, you know? So yeah. Nick Clason (07:17.634) That's it, yeah, no, you're so right. Yeah, so, so far, you know, it's interesting. Like nothing you've said had anything to do with like the youth pastor's sermon or cue cards or so like, what else, man? Josh Boldman (07:27.48) Not even a little. yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not, yeah, it's not the, every year we do a message series where we talk about be nice to your parents. Like, no, that's not, that doesn't help. mean, can't, please do that. yeah, but some things that I have noticed, you know, in times, especially when I started in a ministry where I followed someone who left poorly. Nick Clason (07:38.958) Yeah, yeah, it sure can help, Josh Boldman (07:54.064) what I almost across the board saw was that that person, especially when it came to parents, was disorganized and did not communicate well. So like, and this may sound so minor, but like send an email every week. Like even if it is literally the same email, like it's the same template, just change two things, whatever. But that way when parents are trying to figure out what's going on, they can always look at the last email and see what it was. Nick Clason (08:10.382) It's not that hard. Nick Clason (08:15.02) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (08:20.92) Yeah. Josh Boldman (08:21.668) Don't expect them to open it and read it right when you send it and be like, this email was great. Nick Clason (08:26.05) Well, and that's what I would say with our, even the little bit of hybrid strategies, make sure your website's up to date, because how annoying is it when you have a question about what time does that event start, and you go to the website, and it's not even there. And it's like, I send it in the email. It's like, do you know how many emails I've gotten? And so I recommend a do that, do both. Just keep both things, yeah, keep both things updated. Josh Boldman (08:30.669) Yeah! Mm-hmm. Yes. Yup. Josh Boldman (08:39.76) huh. Yeah. Yeah. Josh Boldman (08:47.184) All of them. Yeah, anything you can do. Yup, 100%. Nick Clason (08:55.308) because they may not be hanging, like you said, on your every word. like, give me your outline from your last 10 messages so that can go over them with my kid. But no, the parents, they do just want to be able to stay in the loop, and they got a lot going on, just like you do. so help them figure out where they can snag that info, for sure. Josh Boldman (08:59.021) Right. Josh Boldman (09:08.898) Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm, yeah, totally. Another good one that we do, and this is literally every place that I started, this was something I instituted within the first month. And I got most pushback from volunteers, which is interesting, was we start and end on time, every week, period. And my gosh, mean, to tell you that, so I was at a place once where when I came in, Nick Clason (09:25.441) Yeah. Interesting. Nick Clason (09:32.915) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Josh Boldman (09:40.751) We started youth group at seven, which really meant it was 7 15. And then youth or the small groups went and they started at like eight 30, which is too late. And that meant that they went until nine on a school night. And then the, the, the overall ministry philosophy was we don't start cleaning up until the last kid leaves because we don't want them to feel like we're like, we're pushing them out. And my thing Nick Clason (09:44.642) Right. Nick Clason (09:51.35) Yeah, on a school night. Yep. Nick Clason (10:03.618) Hmm. Nick Clason (10:07.19) Which like I get the sentiment. Josh Boldman (10:08.846) I totally get it. and it does, it makes so much sense. But at the end of the day, think, think this through. Like we would have students there till like 10 30 and 11 and then we would clean and I'm there with my own son. So I can't even go home with my own kid and get him to bed. And he's got to go to school the next morning. Right. And so, so now if I'm a parent and I notice a pattern that my kid keeps getting in trouble on Thursdays and Nick Clason (10:23.806) Mm-hmm. You're in prison. Yeah, you're locked up like. Josh Boldman (10:38.221) then I also piece it together that they're out late every Wednesday, I'm gonna start putting two and two together and I'm gonna start blaming somebody. And so like... Nick Clason (10:41.762) Yeah. Nick Clason (10:46.2) Bro, that's, I mean, we don't, we, so we homeschool our kids this year, first year. They couldn't go to like Wednesday night activities at the church, because it was too tough of a turnaround for their like first and second grade bodies. Like the alarm goes off at 6 a.m. after church on Wednesday night. was like, exactly, it was brutal. And so it's like now the nice thing is like, hey, we're homeschooled and you know what's cool? We can take our kids to church. Josh Boldman (10:50.126) Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (10:53.901) Yeah! Josh Boldman (10:57.645) Yeah, dude! so hard. Which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what it let us do is we said 8 45. That's when we start cleaning up whether students are there or not. And any student who's still there gets to help. And, and so one that actually taught the students that, okay, I'm going to go ahead and leave it at 30. But yeah. But, then when parents would show up and they'd see their kid helping, like even that was like, my gosh, this Nick Clason (11:18.296) Mm-hmm. gets to help. Nick Clason (11:26.734) Or the good ones will, you know, how can it help? Nick Clason (11:34.999) Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (11:37.858) what are you doing here and how is this magic and how can I do this at home? And so suddenly that just creates so many more opportunities for conversations with parents and for us to say, we're doing this and we're keeping a tight schedule so that you know what to expect and what your kid knows what to expect at school the next day. Nick Clason (11:54.946) Yeah, so good. When you say start, how would you see it being helpful? Maybe I understand the ending, the beginning. How is it helpful starting on time as opposed to like a delayed 15 minutes? I feel like that's a staple in youth ministry. Josh Boldman (12:02.541) Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like same thing. Like I know it's a hard turnaround. Like if you your kid gets home from school, you get home from work, you're trying to get dinner, all that. You rush, rush, rush, rush, and you rush to get them there at seven. And then you just see everybody just sitting around and you're like, why did I rush so hard to get here? And yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Nick Clason (12:27.906) So it's like an honoring of the effort that it took to, yeah. So like you actually, yeah, it's good, it's good, I like it. Josh Boldman (12:35.118) You know, mean, it's never perfect, right? know, mean, you stuff's always gonna go sideways, but like, if you, if you can give them what to expect, then when it does go a little long or, you know, things don't quite work out the way that then it's like, it's not their, their internal monologue is like, again, you know, it's just like, oh, okay, yeah, get it. happens, you know, yeah. Nick Clason (12:43.949) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (12:54.678) Hmm It happened yeah, you have the kind of credibility of like we always end on time Sorry tonight went five minutes late and that's I mean I'm with you like if you're gonna go like late like five minutes is your Absolute max like that's my that's my absolute max. I'm like and I'm sweating bullets in the back like Band we don't need you to play that interlude again. Just pray. Let's go get him out of here. Yeah Josh Boldman (13:04.119) Yep. Yep. Josh Boldman (13:11.958) Totally. yeah. Josh Boldman (13:20.652) Right, please actually don't. Please don't. Yeah. Nick Clason (13:24.24) alright, anything else? Josh Boldman (13:26.413) I would say, so something we did was we started a text chain where we would send parents discussion questions during the lesson. So that if they were picking their kid up later, they'd be like, instead of saying, how was youth group? They could be like, hey, I heard you were talking about Joshua chapter two. would you have? Yeah. Nick Clason (13:35.456) I like it. Nick Clason (13:41.654) Yeah, it's good. And it goes right to them. Being on the phone, that, as opposed to a cue card, you know, we posted on a Facebook group and I still don't even think that's the most effective place for it. And even, yeah, exactly, that's really good. That's good. Josh Boldman (13:54.529) Right, mm-hmm, yeah. And it lets them opt in. Man, mm-hmm. Two other kind of small things that we used to do is we created an observation deck where it was like a row where parents could come and sit and watch. But it was where, and we always had a volunteer assigned to them, so it was like, you know, we always said, if you're gonna be around kids, you gotta be background checked, yada, yada, and all that. like, but, but. Nick Clason (14:11.186) that's cool. Nick Clason (14:20.63) Yeah, all the things, Josh Boldman (14:22.461) If you're a parent, you're just like genuinely curious about what happens here. You don't have to go through that whole process, but we're going to stick a volunteer with you that has, and they're going to be with you the entire time. and, that at least let, let parents know that, this is not a secret. What we do here. We're not, you know, trying to like turn your kids against you or anything like that. yeah. And then, last bit of advice I would give is just when you are talking to parents, Nick Clason (14:32.012) Yeah, come hang out. Nick Clason (14:36.622) Hmm. Nick Clason (14:41.836) Yeah, that's just like a full transparency moment. So that's cool. Josh Boldman (14:51.38) Remember that they are adults and not students. And it's hard to turn that, know, you'd switch that, you know, flip that switch or whatever. Cause you can be really quick going from talking to a bunch of kids to then talking to parents and that same, that same demeanor, that same way, you know, you're addressing, like there's a, the parent that brought the kid and the parent that wants to take that kid home needs, needs respect. And you know, that and it needs respect shown in a way that's different than the way you show respect to a student. So I say, just remember that, remember you're on the same team. It's not you versus them, it's you and them trying to help the kid. Nick Clason (15:24.995) Yeah. Nick Clason (15:30.732) Yeah. And I think the, as I listened to every single thing you said, right? I think the encouraging part is nothing really added anything to your workload. You're not creating some crazy parent seminar. You're not adding some big once a year conference. Like you are subtly shifting your positioning at the beginning and end of service. You're subtly shifting your mindset and your organization and Josh Boldman (15:45.833) Right, no. Nick Clason (16:00.214) you're adding maybe a text thread, right? Which like, it'll take you less than 10 minutes for your entire series to type out two questions per message. You know, like. Josh Boldman (16:02.9) Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Josh Boldman (16:10.503) yeah, well, and what we do, we use questions that were small group questions anyway. Yeah, sure. Nick Clason (16:15.596) Yeah, yeah, and you can copy and paste or reframe slightly and you're right there. So that's so good. Josh, anything else that the people need to know about partnering with parents or anything else they need to know in general? Josh Boldman (16:20.393) Yeah, uh-huh, Yep. Totally. It, I will say this, okay, and because this is the mistake I made and I think a mistake so many people make, if you don't have kids, do not assume that you know better than the parent. Assume that you are, you can help the parent, assume that you are, you are still a resource and you know, you know students. But just parenting is hard, dude. Like it's so hard. And by, you don't know what, what that parent, Nick Clason (16:40.194) Mm, that's good. Nick Clason (16:53.32) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Josh Boldman (16:58.333) is walking in with or what they're walking out with. You might think that that kid is just the golden child, but that might not be what is happening at home. Just don't assume. So go into any conversation with parents, I think, with a posture of learning and a posture of, want to support you, I think is good. Yeah. Nick Clason (17:09.228) Mm. Yeah. Nick Clason (17:16.248) Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's awesome. Hey, all Josh social media, all his stuff's linked down below. Go check him out. But for Josh, this is Nick. Thanks for being here, guys. We'll talk to you next time. Josh Boldman (17:29.042) Later. Bye. youth ministry, partnering with parents, family dynamics, communication strategies, youth pastor tips, parent engagement, youth group, family relationships, youth ministry advice, building trust, hybrid ministry, download youth ministry, nick clason, josh boldman In this conversation, Nick Clason (Hybrid Ministry) and Josh Boldman (Download Youth Ministry) discuss the importance of partnering with parents in youth ministry. Josh gives 10 tips from the perspective of a parent NOT working at a church. 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00:00 Why Partnering with Parents?
02:52 Tip #1
4:34 Tip #2
05:22 Tip #3
06:04 Tip #4
08:55 Tip #5
10:18 Tip #6
13:02 Why does starting on time honor parents?
14:26 Tip #7
15:03 Tip #8
15:47 Tip #9
17:33 Tip #10

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00.93)
Well, so here we are. And Josh, you might be the most frequented guest now on the Hybrid Ministry podcast, which with all I would, I think I sent you one actually. So, so yeah. But today I've been asking people like, what do you feel like you're kind of like an expert on? So we're in this kind of mini series called How I, and so you said, let's talk about partnering with parents. And so.

Josh Boldman (00:06.494)
Yes Do I get a jacket like do I get a like there's like a that's true actually, you know, that's fair

Josh Boldman (00:29.991)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (00:31.124)
over all your different years of experience, what do you feel like uniquely positions you from a mindset or experience-wise or whatever about this idea of partnering with parents?

Josh Boldman (00:38.9)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, over the course of 20 years in youth ministry, I did the traditional route of before I had a kid, feeling like I knew everything more than any of the parents. Like I was way smarter than them. And then I had my own kid, and then I was able to actually have the blessing of having my own kid in my own ministry. And then recently have now,

Nick Clason (00:55.712)
yeah.

Nick Clason (01:03.937)
Mmm.

Josh Boldman (01:08.465)
like a life stage where my kid is a part of a ministry that I do not lead. And so it's like, there, that's what I should have. Okay, those are the questions that I now have that I should have been answering.

Nick Clason (01:13.358)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (01:19.904)
I do actually think that's a really, really fascinating perspective and one worth exploring. So what are a couple of principles or takeaways, especially in the lane of I'm a youth pastor veteran, I work for a youth ministry company, but as a parent, as a customer, so to speak, of this youth group, like what do you wish you were getting back from the youth ministry?

Josh Boldman (01:23.826)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (01:35.303)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (01:42.291)
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something that every youth minister needs to remember is that you are ministering to a family and not just to a student. Hands down, because like a student is a product, I mean, not entirely, but like they're a product of their family, right? Their parents. when you talk, you talk to a kid, half the things they say are things that they have either heard their parents say or they've

Nick Clason (01:53.965)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (02:02.028)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (02:11.835)
or are in like rebellion against something that their parents have said, right? So like, so like the better that you know the parents, the better you are going to know the student. And whether that that kid has a awesome relationship with their parents or a terrible relationship with their parents or no relationship with their parents, whoever it is at home that takes care of them, that makes them feel safe. You are on the same team with that person, whether you know them or not.

Nick Clason (02:15.598)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (02:22.446)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (02:30.702)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (02:41.583)
And it, it, it, I will be as blunt as I can be in saying if, you're on the same team as that, of those people and you don't know them, that is dumb. Like it just don't, don't put yourself in a position of being on a team with someone you don't even know.

Nick Clason (02:50.563)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (02:56.28)
So you've worked in some larger contexts, let's say. How would you recommend someone who has a youth group of 50 students with, let's say, 50 unique family units? so probably more than 50 because siblings, whatever. How do they get to know parents? Because I would imagine the pushback from a youth pastor is like, well, I try. have a well, and we have meetings and they never come to the meetings and all this stuff like what. So.

Josh Boldman (03:00.646)
Yep.

Josh Boldman (03:08.23)
Yeah, yeah, Uh-huh.

Josh Boldman (03:17.757)
Yep, I can't know them all yet.

Josh Boldman (03:24.465)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (03:24.812)
We've all been there, we've all experienced it. what, as a parent now on the other side, give us some tips.

Josh Boldman (03:30.418)
Yeah, yeah, I would say one, especially if you're talking about a middle school ministry, do check in at the beginning of the night and be at the check-in station. And I know that seems so like antithetical to like, I should be hanging out with the kids. you know, yes, that's great. Go play nine square, go play gaga ball, whatever, but spend some time at check-in because especially if they're in sixth, seventh, eighth grade, their parents are going to probably walk in with them.

Nick Clason (03:42.775)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (03:51.938)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (03:56.471)
Right.

Josh Boldman (04:00.274)
Like, so that's a great opportunity. but even if it's not then like clock the times that, know, like, Hey, when are my best opportunities to meet this parent? And it's, it's almost always going to be a drop-off pickup. Um, we, know, sometimes we'll do like, uh, you know, depending on like the layout of your building and how close the room is to the actual parking lot. Like, um, we used to do a thing where we'd have somebody inside with a walkie talkie and somebody outside with a walkie talkie. So what a parent would pull up.

they would say, hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. And so the person on the radio would be like, Johnny. And so then we'd call Johnny's name inside. I was like, why am I not the person outside with the walkie talkie? Like go be that person talking to the parent. you know, that, you know, and, plus one of the best things you can do in that situation is they're like, Hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. You can be like, dude, Johnny's awesome. Like, let me tell you about Johnny. Johnny is so stinking cool. Yup. Yeah.

Nick Clason (04:30.774)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (04:40.906)
Yeah, that's so smart.

Nick Clason (04:50.902)
Yeah, and what parent doesn't want to hear that about their kid?

Josh Boldman (04:56.562)
Oh yeah, cause think of every time a parent gets called by a teacher, it's to tell them that their kid's not doing great. know, so like if you can be like the one time that you like, or I mean, if you're open enough to literally calling parents, like go call a parent and be like, Hey, I need to tell you something about Johnny. And they're like, what do you do now? They're like, he was amazing. Like, you know, and I mean, don't lie about Johnny. Like if Johnny's a little turd, like, know, you can be honest about it, but like, don't, but don't drag Johnny through.

Nick Clason (05:02.294)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (05:14.924)
Yeah, yeah. That's cool, yeah.

Yeah.

Josh Boldman (05:26.62)
You know, go out of your way to tell them how awesome it is.

Nick Clason (05:26.872)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (05:30.284)
Yeah, that's so good. It's like the whole idea of positive reinforcement versus negative, so much more powerful. And we can just be strategic and intentional to position ourselves to do that. Even if you're like, I'll give myself 20 minutes on the calendar a week and I'll try to call as many parents and just say something nice about their kids. And if they're quick conversations or even, bro, leave a voicemail. Maybe they don't answer, whatever. It'll still be awesome. can be like, okay, no need to

Josh Boldman (05:33.859)
Mm-hmm. Totally, totally.

Josh Boldman (05:46.779)
Yeah. yeah.

Josh Boldman (05:56.422)
Yeah!

Nick Clason (05:59.67)
No need to call back, just wanted to let you know whatever, that'd be really good.

Josh Boldman (06:01.999)
Yeah. Yeah. And especially if you know, you have a kid who is, you know, mean, gosh, I don't know what it has been about the, you know, the 20 years I spent in ministry, but it was like, it was just like every kid with an attention deficit of something, something, something like they all just showed up at our ministry. Right. It was grabbing it, which is a lot of fun. I'm just like, I'll be the first to say like, it is a party, but yes. man. Until the broken arms, but

Nick Clason (06:16.854)
Mm-hmm

Nick Clason (06:26.348)
You had fun during the games.

haha

Josh Boldman (06:30.781)
you would, but the thing was, is you would see parents drop off their kids and those parents were exhausted, right? And they were just like exasperated. Like they are saying like, Hey, please help. And also please give me a break for a minute. And so like, if you can call and like, if they, you know that they're having trouble with their kid at school and you can then brag about something awesome about that kid, like I cannot tell you how that feels. you know, just to be able to know like, cause

Nick Clason (06:36.013)
Mmm.

Nick Clason (06:44.053)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (06:49.464)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (06:56.216)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (07:00.066)
And you know, let's call it what it is. Parents need to hear that not everybody hates their kid. Like, I mean, I know that sounds harsh, but like...

Nick Clason (07:05.15)
Mm-hmm. Well, no, you're always questioning, like, are our kids weird? are they? You're always asking that thing.

Josh Boldman (07:10.244)
Right? Yes. It's like, it's like my own kid. Like I love my kid, but I don't know how other people feel about him unless they tell me, you know? So yeah.

Nick Clason (07:17.634)
That's it, yeah, no, you're so right. Yeah, so, so far, you know, it's interesting. Like nothing you've said had anything to do with like the youth pastor's sermon or cue cards or so like, what else, man?

Josh Boldman (07:27.48)
Not even a little. yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not, yeah, it's not the, every year we do a message series where we talk about be nice to your parents. Like, no, that's not, that doesn't help. mean, can't, please do that. yeah, but some things that I have noticed, you know, in times, especially when I started in a ministry where I followed someone who left poorly.

Nick Clason (07:38.958)
Yeah, yeah, it sure can help,

Josh Boldman (07:54.064)
what I almost across the board saw was that that person, especially when it came to parents, was disorganized and did not communicate well. So like, and this may sound so minor, but like send an email every week. Like even if it is literally the same email, like it's the same template, just change two things, whatever. But that way when parents are trying to figure out what's going on, they can always look at the last email and see what it was.

Nick Clason (08:10.382)
It's not that hard.

Nick Clason (08:15.02)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (08:20.92)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (08:21.668)
Don't expect them to open it and read it right when you send it and be like, this email was great.

Nick Clason (08:26.05)
Well, and that's what I would say with our, even the little bit of hybrid strategies, make sure your website's up to date, because how annoying is it when you have a question about what time does that event start, and you go to the website, and it's not even there. And it's like, I send it in the email. It's like, do you know how many emails I've gotten? And so I recommend a do that, do both. Just keep both things, yeah, keep both things updated.

Josh Boldman (08:30.669)
Yeah! Mm-hmm.

Yes. Yup.

Josh Boldman (08:39.76)
huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (08:47.184)
All of them.

Yeah, anything you can do. Yup, 100%.

Nick Clason (08:55.308)
because they may not be hanging, like you said, on your every word. like, give me your outline from your last 10 messages so that can go over them with my kid. But no, the parents, they do just want to be able to stay in the loop, and they got a lot going on, just like you do. so help them figure out where they can snag that info, for sure.

Josh Boldman (08:59.021)
Right.

Josh Boldman (09:08.898)
Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm, yeah, totally. Another good one that we do, and this is literally every place that I started, this was something I instituted within the first month. And I got most pushback from volunteers, which is interesting, was we start and end on time, every week, period. And my gosh, mean, to tell you that, so I was at a place once where when I came in,

Nick Clason (09:25.441)
Yeah.

Interesting.

Nick Clason (09:32.915)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (09:40.751)
We started youth group at seven, which really meant it was 7 15. And then youth or the small groups went and they started at like eight 30, which is too late. And that meant that they went until nine on a school night. And then the, the, the overall ministry philosophy was we don't start cleaning up until the last kid leaves because we don't want them to feel like we're like, we're pushing them out. And my thing

Nick Clason (09:44.642)
Right.

Nick Clason (09:51.35)
Yeah, on a school night. Yep.

Nick Clason (10:03.618)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (10:07.19)
Which like I get the sentiment.

Josh Boldman (10:08.846)
I totally get it. and it does, it makes so much sense. But at the end of the day, think, think this through. Like we would have students there till like 10 30 and 11 and then we would clean and I'm there with my own son. So I can't even go home with my own kid and get him to bed. And he's got to go to school the next morning. Right. And so, so now if I'm a parent and I notice a pattern that my kid keeps getting in trouble on Thursdays and

Nick Clason (10:23.806)
Mm-hmm. You're in prison. Yeah, you're locked up like.

Josh Boldman (10:38.221)
then I also piece it together that they're out late every Wednesday, I'm gonna start putting two and two together and I'm gonna start blaming somebody. And so like...

Nick Clason (10:41.762)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (10:46.2)
Bro, that's, I mean, we don't, we, so we homeschool our kids this year, first year. They couldn't go to like Wednesday night activities at the church, because it was too tough of a turnaround for their like first and second grade bodies. Like the alarm goes off at 6 a.m. after church on Wednesday night. was like, exactly, it was brutal. And so it's like now the nice thing is like, hey, we're homeschooled and you know what's cool? We can take our kids to church.

Josh Boldman (10:50.126)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (10:53.901)
Yeah!

Josh Boldman (10:57.645)
Yeah, dude!

so hard.

Which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And what it let us do is we said 8 45. That's when we start cleaning up whether students are there or not. And any student who's still there gets to help. And, and so one that actually taught the students that, okay, I'm going to go ahead and leave it at 30. But yeah. But, then when parents would show up and they'd see their kid helping, like even that was like, my gosh, this

Nick Clason (11:18.296)
Mm-hmm.

gets to help.

Nick Clason (11:26.734)
Or the good ones will, you know, how can it help?

Nick Clason (11:34.999)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (11:37.858)
what are you doing here and how is this magic and how can I do this at home? And so suddenly that just creates so many more opportunities for conversations with parents and for us to say, we're doing this and we're keeping a tight schedule so that you know what to expect and what your kid knows what to expect at school the next day.

Nick Clason (11:54.946)
Yeah, so good. When you say start, how would you see it being helpful? Maybe I understand the ending, the beginning. How is it helpful starting on time as opposed to like a delayed 15 minutes? I feel like that's a staple in youth ministry.

Josh Boldman (12:02.541)
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like same thing. Like I know it's a hard turnaround. Like if you your kid gets home from school, you get home from work, you're trying to get dinner, all that. You rush, rush, rush, rush, and you rush to get them there at seven. And then you just see everybody just sitting around and you're like, why did I rush so hard to get here? And yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:27.906)
So it's like an honoring of the effort that it took to, yeah. So like you actually, yeah, it's good, it's good, I like it.

Josh Boldman (12:35.118)
You know, mean, it's never perfect, right? know, mean, you stuff's always gonna go sideways, but like, if you, if you can give them what to expect, then when it does go a little long or, you know, things don't quite work out the way that then it's like, it's not their, their internal monologue is like, again, you know, it's just like, oh, okay, yeah, get it. happens, you know, yeah.

Nick Clason (12:43.949)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (12:54.678)
Hmm It happened yeah, you have the kind of credibility of like we always end on time Sorry tonight went five minutes late and that's I mean I'm with you like if you're gonna go like late like five minutes is your Absolute max like that's my that's my absolute max. I'm like and I'm sweating bullets in the back like Band we don't need you to play that interlude again. Just pray. Let's go get him out of here. Yeah

Josh Boldman (13:04.119)
Yep. Yep.

Josh Boldman (13:11.958)
Totally. yeah.

Josh Boldman (13:20.652)
Right, please actually don't. Please don't. Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:24.24)
alright, anything else?

Josh Boldman (13:26.413)
I would say, so something we did was we started a text chain where we would send parents discussion questions during the lesson. So that if they were picking their kid up later, they'd be like, instead of saying, how was youth group? They could be like, hey, I heard you were talking about Joshua chapter two. would you have? Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:35.456)
I like it.

Nick Clason (13:41.654)
Yeah, it's good. And it goes right to them. Being on the phone, that, as opposed to a cue card, you know, we posted on a Facebook group and I still don't even think that's the most effective place for it. And even, yeah, exactly, that's really good. That's good.

Josh Boldman (13:54.529)
Right, mm-hmm, yeah. And it lets them opt in. Man, mm-hmm. Two other kind of small things that we used to do is we created an observation deck where it was like a row where parents could come and sit and watch. But it was where, and we always had a volunteer assigned to them, so it was like, you know, we always said, if you're gonna be around kids, you gotta be background checked, yada, yada, and all that. like, but, but.

Nick Clason (14:11.186)
that's cool.

Nick Clason (14:20.63)
Yeah, all the things,

Josh Boldman (14:22.461)
If you're a parent, you're just like genuinely curious about what happens here. You don't have to go through that whole process, but we're going to stick a volunteer with you that has, and they're going to be with you the entire time. and, that at least let, let parents know that, this is not a secret. What we do here. We're not, you know, trying to like turn your kids against you or anything like that. yeah. And then, last bit of advice I would give is just when you are talking to parents,

Nick Clason (14:32.012)
Yeah, come hang out.

Nick Clason (14:36.622)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (14:41.836)
Yeah, that's just like a full transparency moment. So that's cool.

Josh Boldman (14:51.38)
Remember that they are adults and not students. And it's hard to turn that, know, you'd switch that, you know, flip that switch or whatever. Cause you can be really quick going from talking to a bunch of kids to then talking to parents and that same, that same demeanor, that same way, you know, you're addressing, like there's a, the parent that brought the kid and the parent that wants to take that kid home needs, needs respect. And you know, that

and it needs respect shown in a way that's different than the way you show respect to a student. So I say, just remember that, remember you're on the same team. It's not you versus them, it's you and them trying to help the kid.

Nick Clason (15:24.995)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (15:30.732)
Yeah. And I think the, as I listened to every single thing you said, right? I think the encouraging part is nothing really added anything to your workload. You're not creating some crazy parent seminar. You're not adding some big once a year conference. Like you are subtly shifting your positioning at the beginning and end of service. You're subtly shifting your mindset and your organization and

Josh Boldman (15:45.833)
Right, no.

Nick Clason (16:00.214)
you're adding maybe a text thread, right? Which like, it'll take you less than 10 minutes for your entire series to type out two questions per message. You know, like.

Josh Boldman (16:02.9)
Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (16:10.503)
yeah, well, and what we do, we use questions that were small group questions anyway. Yeah, sure.

Nick Clason (16:15.596)
Yeah, yeah, and you can copy and paste or reframe slightly and you're right there. So that's so good. Josh, anything else that the people need to know about partnering with parents or anything else they need to know in general?

Josh Boldman (16:20.393)
Yeah, uh-huh, Yep. Totally.

It, I will say this, okay, and because this is the mistake I made and I think a mistake so many people make, if you don't have kids, do not assume that you know better than the parent. Assume that you are, you can help the parent, assume that you are, you are still a resource and you know, you know students. But just parenting is hard, dude. Like it's so hard. And by, you don't know what, what that parent,

Nick Clason (16:40.194)
Mm, that's good.

Nick Clason (16:53.32)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (16:58.333)
is walking in with or what they're walking out with. You might think that that kid is just the golden child, but that might not be what is happening at home. Just don't assume. So go into any conversation with parents, I think, with a posture of learning and a posture of, want to support you, I think is good. Yeah.

Nick Clason (17:09.228)
Mm. Yeah.

Nick Clason (17:16.248)
Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, that's awesome. Hey, all Josh social media, all his stuff's linked down below. Go check him out. But for Josh, this is Nick. Thanks for being here, guys. We'll talk to you next time.

Josh Boldman (17:29.042)
Later. Bye.

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00:00 Why Partnering with Parents?
02:52 Tip #1
4:34 Tip #2
05:22 Tip #3
06:04 Tip #4
08:55 Tip #5
10:18 Tip #6
13:02 Why does starting on time honor parents?
14:26 Tip #7
15:03 Tip #8
15:47 Tip #9
17:33 Tip #10

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00.93)
Well, so here we are. And Josh, you might be the most frequented guest now on the Hybrid Ministry podcast, which with all I would, I think I sent you one actually. So, so yeah. But today I've been asking people like, what do you feel like you're kind of like an expert on? So we're in this kind of mini series called How I, and so you said, let's talk about partnering with parents. And so.

Josh Boldman (00:06.494)
Yes Do I get a jacket like do I get a like there's like a that's true actually, you know, that's fair

Josh Boldman (00:29.991)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (00:31.124)
over all your different years of experience, what do you feel like uniquely positions you from a mindset or experience-wise or whatever about this idea of partnering with parents?

Josh Boldman (00:38.9)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, over the course of 20 years in youth ministry, I did the traditional route of before I had a kid, feeling like I knew everything more than any of the parents. Like I was way smarter than them. And then I had my own kid, and then I was able to actually have the blessing of having my own kid in my own ministry. And then recently have now,

Nick Clason (00:55.712)
yeah.

Nick Clason (01:03.937)
Mmm.

Josh Boldman (01:08.465)
like a life stage where my kid is a part of a ministry that I do not lead. And so it's like, there, that's what I should have. Okay, those are the questions that I now have that I should have been answering.

Nick Clason (01:13.358)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (01:19.904)
I do actually think that's a really, really fascinating perspective and one worth exploring. So what are a couple of principles or takeaways, especially in the lane of I'm a youth pastor veteran, I work for a youth ministry company, but as a parent, as a customer, so to speak, of this youth group, like what do you wish you were getting back from the youth ministry?

Josh Boldman (01:23.826)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (01:35.303)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (01:42.291)
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something that every youth minister needs to remember is that you are ministering to a family and not just to a student. Hands down, because like a student is a product, I mean, not entirely, but like they're a product of their family, right? Their parents. when you talk, you talk to a kid, half the things they say are things that they have either heard their parents say or they've

Nick Clason (01:53.965)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (02:02.028)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (02:11.835)
or are in like rebellion against something that their parents have said, right? So like, so like the better that you know the parents, the better you are going to know the student. And whether that that kid has a awesome relationship with their parents or a terrible relationship with their parents or no relationship with their parents, whoever it is at home that takes care of them, that makes them feel safe. You are on the same team with that person, whether you know them or not.

Nick Clason (02:15.598)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (02:22.446)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (02:30.702)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (02:41.583)
And it, it, it, I will be as blunt as I can be in saying if, you're on the same team as that, of those people and you don't know them, that is dumb. Like it just don't, don't put yourself in a position of being on a team with someone you don't even know.

Nick Clason (02:50.563)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (02:56.28)
So you've worked in some larger contexts, let's say. How would you recommend someone who has a youth group of 50 students with, let's say, 50 unique family units? so probably more than 50 because siblings, whatever. How do they get to know parents? Because I would imagine the pushback from a youth pastor is like, well, I try. have a well, and we have meetings and they never come to the meetings and all this stuff like what. So.

Josh Boldman (03:00.646)
Yep.

Josh Boldman (03:08.23)
Yeah, yeah, Uh-huh.

Josh Boldman (03:17.757)
Yep, I can't know them all yet.

Josh Boldman (03:24.465)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (03:24.812)
We've all been there, we've all experienced it. what, as a parent now on the other side, give us some tips.

Josh Boldman (03:30.418)
Yeah, yeah, I would say one, especially if you're talking about a middle school ministry, do check in at the beginning of the night and be at the check-in station. And I know that seems so like antithetical to like, I should be hanging out with the kids. you know, yes, that's great. Go play nine square, go play gaga ball, whatever, but spend some time at check-in because especially if they're in sixth, seventh, eighth grade, their parents are going to probably walk in with them.

Nick Clason (03:42.775)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (03:51.938)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (03:56.471)
Right.

Josh Boldman (04:00.274)
Like, so that's a great opportunity. but even if it's not then like clock the times that, know, like, Hey, when are my best opportunities to meet this parent? And it's, it's almost always going to be a drop-off pickup. Um, we, know, sometimes we'll do like, uh, you know, depending on like the layout of your building and how close the room is to the actual parking lot. Like, um, we used to do a thing where we'd have somebody inside with a walkie talkie and somebody outside with a walkie talkie. So what a parent would pull up.

they would say, hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. And so the person on the radio would be like, Johnny. And so then we'd call Johnny's name inside. I was like, why am I not the person outside with the walkie talkie? Like go be that person talking to the parent. you know, that, you know, and, plus one of the best things you can do in that situation is they're like, Hey, I'm here to pick up Johnny. You can be like, dude, Johnny's awesome. Like, let me tell you about Johnny. Johnny is so stinking cool. Yup. Yeah.

Nick Clason (04:30.774)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (04:40.906)
Yeah, that's so smart.

Nick Clason (04:50.902)
Yeah, and what parent doesn't want to hear that about their kid?

Josh Boldman (04:56.562)
Oh yeah, cause think of every time a parent gets called by a teacher, it's to tell them that their kid's not doing great. know, so like if you can be like the one time that you like, or I mean, if you're open enough to literally calling parents, like go call a parent and be like, Hey, I need to tell you something about Johnny. And they're like, what do you do now? They're like, he was amazing. Like, you know, and I mean, don't lie about Johnny. Like if Johnny's a little turd, like, know, you can be honest about it, but like, don't, but don't drag Johnny through.

Nick Clason (05:02.294)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (05:14.924)
Yeah, yeah. That's cool, yeah.

Yeah.

Josh Boldman (05:26.62)
You know, go out of your way to tell them how awesome it is.

Nick Clason (05:26.872)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (05:30.284)
Yeah, that's so good. It's like the whole idea of positive reinforcement versus negative, so much more powerful. And we can just be strategic and intentional to position ourselves to do that. Even if you're like, I'll give myself 20 minutes on the calendar a week and I'll try to call as many parents and just say something nice about their kids. And if they're quick conversations or even, bro, leave a voicemail. Maybe they don't answer, whatever. It'll still be awesome. can be like, okay, no need to

Josh Boldman (05:33.859)
Mm-hmm. Totally, totally.

Josh Boldman (05:46.779)
Yeah. yeah.

Josh Boldman (05:56.422)
Yeah!

Nick Clason (05:59.67)
No need to call back, just wanted to let you know whatever, that'd be really good.

Josh Boldman (06:01.999)
Yeah. Yeah. And especially if you know, you have a kid who is, you know, mean, gosh, I don't know what it has been about the, you know, the 20 years I spent in ministry, but it was like, it was just like every kid with an attention deficit of something, something, something like they all just showed up at our ministry. Right. It was grabbing it, which is a lot of fun. I'm just like, I'll be the first to say like, it is a party, but yes. man. Until the broken arms, but

Nick Clason (06:16.854)
Mm-hmm

Nick Clason (06:26.348)
You had fun during the games.

haha

Josh Boldman (06:30.781)
you would, but the thing was, is you would see parents drop off their kids and those parents were exhausted, right? And they were just like exasperated. Like they are saying like, Hey, please help. And also please give me a break for a minute. And so like, if you can call and like, if they, you know that they're having trouble with their kid at school and you can then brag about something awesome about that kid, like I cannot tell you how that feels. you know, just to be able to know like, cause

Nick Clason (06:36.013)
Mmm.

Nick Clason (06:44.053)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (06:49.464)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (06:56.216)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (07:00.066)
And you know, let's call it what it is. Parents need to hear that not everybody hates their kid. Like, I mean, I know that sounds harsh, but like...

Nick Clason (07:05.15)
Mm-hmm. Well, no, you're always questioning, like, are our kids weird? are they? You're always asking that thing.

Josh Boldman (07:10.244)
Right? Yes. It's like, it's like my own kid. Like I love my kid, but I don't know how other people feel about him unless they tell me, you know? So yeah.

Nick Clason (07:17.634)
That's it, yeah, no, you're so right. Yeah, so, so far, you know, it's interesting. Like nothing you've said had anything to do with like the youth pastor's sermon or cue cards or so like, what else, man?

Josh Boldman (07:27.48)
Not even a little. yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not, yeah, it's not the, every year we do a message series where we talk about be nice to your parents. Like, no, that's not, that doesn't help. mean, can't, please do that. yeah, but some things that I have noticed, you know, in times, especially when I started in a ministry where I followed someone who left poorly.

Nick Clason (07:38.958)
Yeah, yeah, it sure can help,

Josh Boldman (07:54.064)
what I almost across the board saw was that that person, especially when it came to parents, was disorganized and did not communicate well. So like, and this may sound so minor, but like send an email every week. Like even if it is literally the same email, like it's the same template, just change two things, whatever. But that way when parents are trying to figure out what's going on, they can always look at the last email and see what it was.

Nick Clason (08:10.382)
It's not that hard.

Nick Clason (08:15.02)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (08:20.92)
Yeah.

Josh Boldman (08:21.668)
Don't expect them to open it and read it right when you send it and be like, this email was great.

Nick Clason (08:26.05)
Well, and that's what I would say with our, even the little bit of hybrid strategies, make sure your website's up to date, because how annoying is it when you have a question about what time does that event start, and you go to the website, and it's not even there. And it's like, I send it in the email. It's like, do you know how many emails I've gotten? And so I recommend a do that, do both. Just keep both things, yeah, keep both things updated.

Josh Boldman (08:30.669)
Yeah! Mm-hmm.

Yes. Yup.

Josh Boldman (08:39.76)
huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (08:47.184)
All of them.

Yeah, anything you can do. Yup, 100%.

Nick Clason (08:55.308)
because they may not be hanging, like you said, on your every word. like, give me your outline from your last 10 messages so that can go over them with my kid. But no, the parents, they do just want to be able to stay in the loop, and they got a lot going on, just like you do. so help them figure out where they can snag that info, for sure.

Josh Boldman (08:59.021)
Right.

Josh Boldman (09:08.898)
Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm, yeah, totally. Another good one that we do, and this is literally every place that I started, this was something I instituted within the first month. And I got most pushback from volunteers, which is interesting, was we start and end on time, every week, period. And my gosh, mean, to tell you that, so I was at a place once where when I came in,

Nick Clason (09:25.441)
Yeah.

Interesting.

Nick Clason (09:32.915)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (09:40.751)
We started youth group at seven, which really meant it was 7 15. And then youth or the small groups went and they started at like eight 30, which is too late. And that meant that they went until nine on a school night. And then the, the, the overall ministry philosophy was we don't start cleaning up until the last kid leaves because we don't want them to feel like we're like, we're pushing them out. And my thing

Nick Clason (09:44.642)
Right.

Nick Clason (09:51.35)
Yeah, on a school night. Yep.

Nick Clason (10:03.618)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (10:07.19)
Which like I get the sentiment.

Josh Boldman (10:08.846)
I totally get it. and it does, it makes so much sense. But at the end of the day, think, think this through. Like we would have students there till like 10 30 and 11 and then we would clean and I'm there with my own son. So I can't even go home with my own kid and get him to bed. And he's got to go to school the next morning. Right. And so, so now if I'm a parent and I notice a pattern that my kid keeps getting in trouble on Thursdays and

Nick Clason (10:23.806)
Mm-hmm. You're in prison. Yeah, you're locked up like.

Josh Boldman (10:38.221)
then I also piece it together that they're out late every Wednesday, I'm gonna start putting two and two together and I'm gonna start blaming somebody. And so like...

Nick Clason (10:41.762)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (10:46.2)
Bro, that's, I mean, we don't, we, so we homeschool our kids this year, first year. They couldn't go to like Wednesday night activities at the church, because it was too tough of a turnaround for their like first and second grade bodies. Like the alarm goes off at 6 a.m. after church on Wednesday night. was like, exactly, it was brutal. And so it's like now the nice thing is like, hey, we're homeschooled and you know what's cool? We can take our kids to church.

Josh Boldman (10:50.126)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (10:53.901)
Yeah!

Josh Boldman (10:57.645)
Yeah, dude!

so hard.

Which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And what it let us do is we said 8 45. That's when we start cleaning up whether students are there or not. And any student who's still there gets to help. And, and so one that actually taught the students that, okay, I'm going to go ahead and leave it at 30. But yeah. But, then when parents would show up and they'd see their kid helping, like even that was like, my gosh, this

Nick Clason (11:18.296)
Mm-hmm.

gets to help.

Nick Clason (11:26.734)
Or the good ones will, you know, how can it help?

Nick Clason (11:34.999)
Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (11:37.858)
what are you doing here and how is this magic and how can I do this at home? And so suddenly that just creates so many more opportunities for conversations with parents and for us to say, we're doing this and we're keeping a tight schedule so that you know what to expect and what your kid knows what to expect at school the next day.

Nick Clason (11:54.946)
Yeah, so good. When you say start, how would you see it being helpful? Maybe I understand the ending, the beginning. How is it helpful starting on time as opposed to like a delayed 15 minutes? I feel like that's a staple in youth ministry.

Josh Boldman (12:02.541)
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like same thing. Like I know it's a hard turnaround. Like if you your kid gets home from school, you get home from work, you're trying to get dinner, all that. You rush, rush, rush, rush, and you rush to get them there at seven. And then you just see everybody just sitting around and you're like, why did I rush so hard to get here? And yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:27.906)
So it's like an honoring of the effort that it took to, yeah. So like you actually, yeah, it's good, it's good, I like it.

Josh Boldman (12:35.118)
You know, mean, it's never perfect, right? know, mean, you stuff's always gonna go sideways, but like, if you, if you can give them what to expect, then when it does go a little long or, you know, things don't quite work out the way that then it's like, it's not their, their internal monologue is like, again, you know, it's just like, oh, okay, yeah, get it. happens, you know, yeah.

Nick Clason (12:43.949)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (12:54.678)
Hmm It happened yeah, you have the kind of credibility of like we always end on time Sorry tonight went five minutes late and that's I mean I'm with you like if you're gonna go like late like five minutes is your Absolute max like that's my that's my absolute max. I'm like and I'm sweating bullets in the back like Band we don't need you to play that interlude again. Just pray. Let's go get him out of here. Yeah

Josh Boldman (13:04.119)
Yep. Yep.

Josh Boldman (13:11.958)
Totally. yeah.

Josh Boldman (13:20.652)
Right, please actually don't. Please don't. Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:24.24)
alright, anything else?

Josh Boldman (13:26.413)
I would say, so something we did was we started a text chain where we would send parents discussion questions during the lesson. So that if they were picking their kid up later, they'd be like, instead of saying, how was youth group? They could be like, hey, I heard you were talking about Joshua chapter two. would you have? Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:35.456)
I like it.

Nick Clason (13:41.654)
Yeah, it's good. And it goes right to them. Being on the phone, that, as opposed to a cue card, you know, we posted on a Facebook group and I still don't even think that's the most effective place for it. And even, yeah, exactly, that's really good. That's good.

Josh Boldman (13:54.529)
Right, mm-hmm, yeah. And it lets them opt in. Man, mm-hmm. Two other kind of small things that we used to do is we created an observation deck where it was like a row where parents could come and sit and watch. But it was where, and we always had a volunteer assigned to them, so it was like, you know, we always said, if you're gonna be around kids, you gotta be background checked, yada, yada, and all that. like, but, but.

Nick Clason (14:11.186)
that's cool.

Nick Clason (14:20.63)
Yeah, all the things,

Josh Boldman (14:22.461)
If you're a parent, you're just like genuinely curious about what happens here. You don't have to go through that whole process, but we're going to stick a volunteer with you that has, and they're going to be with you the entire time. and, that at least let, let parents know that, this is not a secret. What we do here. We're not, you know, trying to like turn your kids against you or anything like that. yeah. And then, last bit of advice I would give is just when you are talking to parents,

Nick Clason (14:32.012)
Yeah, come hang out.

Nick Clason (14:36.622)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (14:41.836)
Yeah, that's just like a full transparency moment. So that's cool.

Josh Boldman (14:51.38)
Remember that they are adults and not students. And it's hard to turn that, know, you'd switch that, you know, flip that switch or whatever. Cause you can be really quick going from talking to a bunch of kids to then talking to parents and that same, that same demeanor, that same way, you know, you're addressing, like there's a, the parent that brought the kid and the parent that wants to take that kid home needs, needs respect. And you know, that

and it needs respect shown in a way that's different than the way you show respect to a student. So I say, just remember that, remember you're on the same team. It's not you versus them, it's you and them trying to help the kid.

Nick Clason (15:24.995)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (15:30.732)
Yeah. And I think the, as I listened to every single thing you said, right? I think the encouraging part is nothing really added anything to your workload. You're not creating some crazy parent seminar. You're not adding some big once a year conference. Like you are subtly shifting your positioning at the beginning and end of service. You're subtly shifting your mindset and your organization and

Josh Boldman (15:45.833)
Right, no.

Nick Clason (16:00.214)
you're adding maybe a text thread, right? Which like, it'll take you less than 10 minutes for your entire series to type out two questions per message. You know, like.

Josh Boldman (16:02.9)
Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Josh Boldman (16:10.503)
yeah, well, and what we do, we use questions that were small group questions anyway. Yeah, sure.

Nick Clason (16:15.596)
Yeah, yeah, and you can copy and paste or reframe slightly and you're right there. So that's so good. Josh, anything else that the people need to know about partnering with parents or anything else they need to know in general?

Josh Boldman (16:20.393)
Yeah, uh-huh, Yep. Totally.

It, I will say this, okay, and because this is the mistake I made and I think a mistake so many people make, if you don't have kids, do not assume that you know better than the parent. Assume that you are, you can help the parent, assume that you are, you are still a resource and you know, you know students. But just parenting is hard, dude. Like it's so hard. And by, you don't know what, what that parent,

Nick Clason (16:40.194)
Mm, that's good.

Nick Clason (16:53.32)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Josh Boldman (16:58.333)
is walking in with or what they're walking out with. You might think that that kid is just the golden child, but that might not be what is happening at home. Just don't assume. So go into any conversation with parents, I think, with a posture of learning and a posture of, want to support you, I think is good. Yeah.

Nick Clason (17:09.228)
Mm. Yeah.

Nick Clason (17:16.248)
Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, that's awesome. Hey, all Josh social media, all his stuff's linked down below. Go check him out. But for Josh, this is Nick. Thanks for being here, guys. We'll talk to you next time.

Josh Boldman (17:29.042)
Later. Bye.

]]> Episode 143: How I Avoid Burnout with Derry Prenkert https://www.hybridministry.xyz/143 afa1f840-6b60-4713-bc19-e28fe1fa8d2f Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 143 How I Avoid Burnout with Derry Prenkert full Nick Clason In this Episode Derry Breaks down 3 principles to avoiding burnout. From Self-Awareness, to Working Genius to Sabbathing Well this episode has it all! Derry's take on Vacationing is worth the entire episode. 44:42 no In this Episode Derry Breaks down 3 principles to avoiding burnout. From Self-Awareness, to Working Genius to Sabbathing Well this episode has it all! 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Here I am with my friend Derry, who we're just, what were we doing? Like last week we were like counting it out. We've known each other now like nine years, I think it is, which is, that's actually like a weird number to say. That makes me feel old. And I don't think of myself as old, but I think I am now. So Derry, how you doing this morning, bro? Derry (00:23.319) I'm good. You're not old. You're like my youngest brother old does that make sense? I can't be I could be your uncle, but ultimately Nick Clason (00:27.654) Sure, I'll take it. Yeah, so give us like a 30 second flyover, like who are you, in, know, what qualifies you to talk about this topic today of burnout? Derry (00:43.758) I am a youth pastor at heart that served in traditional youth ministry in a youth pastor role for 26 years, 23 of those at one church, three at another. And now I work with ministry leaders as a whole, but really it's all next gen people is where my heart is. And that's what I do through an organization called Standing Stone Ministry and run that in a lot of different formats. And it's all free, confidential, all about coaching, consultation and care. And why I can talk about this is because I've had incredible victories in it and deep, massive failures when it comes to, I think, avoiding burnout in a lot of places, but also coming face to face with burnout, because it sneaks up on us. And so I can speak from both the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, which is an old ABC-wide world of sports thing. If you've never seen it, watch the YouTube clip. It's amazing. Nick Clason (01:37.946) Well, I'll listen, I'll just say, for those of you who are like, you know, later on in maybe your youth ministry career and you're trying to create like coaching and cohorts, like Derry is the guy that is throwing a wrench into all of your plans because, I'll just plug like the youth ministry leader cohort, which is incredible value, which people would pay typically thousands of dollars to be a part of your offering now for somehow free. And I don't know how you're doing it. but I've been a part of it, I've helped facilitate one. I mean, it's awesome. So there's your plug and that's at least a step in this whole burnout deal. So. Derry (02:10.958) Yeah. Thanks, man. Absolutely, it's huge. how we do it, you just said part of it, because there's some amazing people that do it where by payment is friendship. And then there's a group of people and organizations that believe in this stuff. They love the church and they love the next generation, and they are footing the bill for us to do this. And I hope that alone brings hope to this youth ministry world. Like we just sometimes feel like, you know, everybody's against us. And it is, there's parts that are lot against us. There are people that are Nick Clason (02:23.982) Hahaha Nick Clason (02:29.988) Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick Clason (02:35.27) Which is really cool. Derry (02:45.95) So no, they just so know the value. They're either paying it forward from their youth ministry experience, they just recognize that the church and the hope of the church is found in this next generation, and so why not invest in the people investing in them? so, yeah, that's how we do it, but also it's just a reminder to anybody listening to this. Because if you're watching this and you're thinking you're burnt out, part of it is I just, don't make a difference and nobody sees what I'm doing. No, that's seen. Nick Clason (02:48.998) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (02:59.302) Yeah, it's good. Nick Clason (03:07.056) Hmm, that's good. Well, so Derry has like kind of like a three step sort of framework or little outline, I guess, of what we're gonna kind of walk through today. So what, Derry, take us through like step number one of this whole burnout conversation, where does someone start? Derry (03:24.942) Yeah, yeah, think, you know, it's so hard because burnout comes in so many forms. I mean, there's I'm just way overworked burnout. There's I'm not fulfilled burnout. There's relational burnout, which I don't think I'm to be able to hit that one a lot, but that's big, you know, and that's that's a little bit different. And then there's just like I'm in the wrong kind of work burnout, you know. So so it goes all these different ways. So ultimately, I was just thinking like you said, how do I? And I would say here's how I either have burnout. or in the midst of burnout, caught it and recognize and put in practices, not so much to get out of it to avoid it the next time. Because I have burnout multiple times, you know? And so people are like, yeah, you lasted 23 years. OK, so three things. they're not like steps, but just like I guess I'd go principles and then some ways I do it. The first, I think, a key to avoiding burnout is self-awareness. I mean, it's just a simple thing. It's self-awareness because we're all wired in different ways. Nick Clason (04:02.021) you Nick Clason (04:10.576) Okay. Nick Clason (04:16.39) Hmm. Derry (04:21.326) that we will find our fuel, we'll find our exhaustion, we'll find ourselves caught up in our head and we'll refuel in different ways. And so that's a big one and I'll give you three pieces inside of self-awareness and you can stop me and ask me along in this. I would say the first one that I would throw out is your personality and your working genius is what I throw out. There's profiles out there that help you just learn. what, like who you are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, they're, they're profiles, right? They're not, they're not like, I got really tired of the Enneagram when it hit because I, I was into the disc profile. Others are Myers and Briggs, Myers Briggs. And I got annoyed with the Enneagram because people were like, this is the answer to everything. I never forget. sat in this like a millennial group and a person said, Enneagram is like a color wheel. And I was like, you just basically said this thing. Nick Clason (04:52.592) Like who you are, how you work, how you recharge, all that, yeah. Nick Clason (05:02.726) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (05:15.206) Ha Derry (05:20.856) can say whatever you want. Like there is a reality of that, but no, like there is absolutely wiring inside of it. So I don't care what it is, if you take it and it resonates with you, pause and say, okay, if I am a personality that comes alive when I'm helping people versus I'm a personality and it's behind the scenes and I don't want credit versus I do want to be out front. Well, then when you're aware in that and you're catching that, you recognize. Nick Clason (05:22.435) You Nick Clason (05:39.942) Mm-hmm. Derry (05:48.854) man, I gotta find myself over toward the work that's gonna bring life to me. And if I'm living too much over, and those profiles help you a lot with that. Nick Clason (05:55.43) Well, and then conversely, right? Like how you rest too, right? In that, so even like, like I'm a task type person. Like I'm an Enneagram one, my wife is an Enneagram two, so she likes to help people. So like she recharges a lot through like relationships where like I not quite as much. And so even within our own like marriage and relationship, understanding like a thing that might bring her life might drain me, you know? And so we kind of need to know even how to strike the balance like within that too. Derry (05:58.772) Exactly right. Mm-hmm. Derry (06:23.822) Yeah, and Nick, for those that are married, personality stuff and I'll talk about the working genius in a second, awesome to do with your spouse because let's be honest, when they're out of whack, if our spouse is not in a good space and they're burning out, it burns us out too. And it's not their fault. It's actually maybe we gotta take the responsibility to go, am I aware enough? Nick Clason (06:29.902) Yeah, yeah. Nick Clason (06:41.826) Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. Derry (06:47.586) I'm telling you, man, I've dove into the working genius side a whole lot more. We're getting ready to learn more on some personality profile stuff, my wife and I to help people. But it makes sense, right? Like the love language talk, you're going to tend to express love in the way you want it. But if that's not somebody's love language, they might not receive it to the level you think they can. so so so that it is just big. So personality profiles really good. If you aren't aware of this thing called working genius, it's a lot like if you've ever heard of strength Clifton strength finder. It's a similar thing, but it's a work. productivity tool. wish it was called like working energizing or working joys because genius can throw you off. The idea is there's these six different parts to work and all of us come alive in two parts to it. It might not be step one. It might be or step one and step two. It might be step one and step five. So it mixes all around, but we come alive into, we can get by into and we die into meaning Nick Clason (07:18.8) Yeah. Nick Clason (07:29.082) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (07:37.914) Mm. Nick Clason (07:45.636) Yeah. Derry (07:46.146) There's two of them that like when we're in it, we're like, we're Captain America. I could do it all day. So like work, if you're a creative person that then loves to track down the creatives, your invention to nasty. I don't know anybody like that. Yeah. Nick Clason (07:50.288) You Nick Clason (07:55.738) Give us yours, like what are you, like what, talk about a project that you're Captain America in, like you could do all day, and then talk about a type of project that like you can't, you don't wanna do, or you wanna hand off, or you just wanna like, you know, be done, cause it's the worst. Derry (08:01.026) Yeah. Yep. Derry (08:06.658) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me help you with it even. Because I think there's that way to do it. There's also just the, it's every work involves all six of these steps. And so it's also an awareness of if I have to do this from beginning and end, when I'm aware of that, I can do that. But also you're usually working in a team. So there's wonder, which is you love pondering the possibilities. There's invention where you're the, me a blank whiteboard and I come up with ideas. There's discernment where I'm processing through. Nick Clason (08:15.696) Yeah. Derry (08:34.926) what ideas have merit, where there's themes, and just kind of catching what goes on. There's galvanizing, where it's like the cheer everybody, bring everybody together and go, let's go for this. It's the rally cry person. A lot of youth pastors are galvanizing geniuses, because they love to rally the group together. It's that, like the greatest accomplishment is we're all excited, don't know what we're doing, but we're all, no. No, but that's galvanizing. Then there's enablement, not the best name for it, but that's where you want to come alongside. Nick Clason (08:50.923) Mm. Mm-hmm. Derry (09:03.926) and help whatever the vision is happen. Also, youth pastors are enablement geniuses, especially if they last a while, because you're often having to fulfill the mission of the greater church and then come alongside. you're the moment when they go, we're looking for volunteers to help with. you might not, you just go, would love to, yes, thank you, let me do this. And then there's tenacity. And that's like the hit the deadline, nail the detail stuff, right? So my genius is invention and discernment. Nick Clason (09:08.251) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (09:13.638) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (09:20.132) Yeah, let's the youth pastor. Yeah. Nick Clason (09:28.87) Mm-hmm. Derry (09:33.154) give me a blank whiteboard or a brainstorm session and I come alive. Because not only like you present and the second, they call it the genius, competency and your frustration. So my genius is invention and discernment. They are back to back. My competency is wonder. So I don't mind pondering the questions and galvanizing is my other competency. So I can rally the team together. But I'm at my greatest on service, like semester planning. Nick Clason (09:45.168) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (09:53.062) Mm-hmm. Derry (10:02.85) When we would do that in my team, it was the greatest day in the world because that was our time where we were going to brainstorm. We were going to identify possibilities of what we could do. We were going to try to see how the Holy Spirit would bring together all these ideas we put up on the whiteboard and find the themes and go, there's a series. Here's the scripture we're going to come out of, or here's the scripture we're going to start with. But here's how we can flesh this out for students. Here's this new idea we have on something. I mean, like you can see me like talking about, right? And then. Nick Clason (10:28.996) Yeah, but as someone that is like tenacity, like a whiteboard meeting's great, but I feel like I'm losing a day's worth of work. Derry (10:36.052) Exactly right, right? So that's the key in this thing is because there's that part for you where your genius is dying when you're in that one spot because you want to get to it. But then there's also your frustration that when you get into that portion. So my assistant for years, best assistant in the world because she was amazing and she wasn't an assistant. She was like a co-pastor. She just loved the behind the scenes and getting things done. Nick Clason (10:41.83) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (10:59.974) Mm-hmm. Derry (11:03.138) Okay, I wish we had a map, but wonder, invention, discernment, galvanizing. Remember, that's all the beginning of the work. And I am either good to go or fully alive in that. And then my frustration is actually the enablement piece of being delegated out to me, especially if it's not my idea. kind of like, gosh, don't call on me to do it. It sounds so selfish, but I get it, I'll do it, but it kills me. And then finish the project. So my big joke I tell people all the time is I'm amazing at starting things. Nick Clason (11:09.296) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (11:23.078) No, I get it. Derry (11:32.846) period. Nick Clason (11:33.476) Mm-hmm. Derry (11:35.278) Um, but she was enabled into nasty genius. So she's dying in these brainstorm meetings. I'm frustrated in part because like, why aren't you excited about this? And she's like, just tell me what to do and I'll do it. And then, and then she's coming back to me and going, give me the details. like, I just gave you the big vision. I, know, I don't want to get in your way. Well, that's because I don't want people to get in my way, but we, we also found ways to work together. So that's team side. Personally, here's why this is so important in burnout. They've done a ton of study on the thing, like 2 million assessments and Nick Clason (11:39.366) Yeah. Nick Clason (11:45.83) Mm. Nick Clason (12:03.334) Hmm. Derry (12:04.738) Remember, there's three areas. There's the place you're a genius where you come alive fully. There's then your frustration, the one where it's like, just get me out of here. Then there's like, yeah. Then there's your competency, where you're actually good at it. People affirm you, you know you're good at it. But the trick is over time, it loses its fulfillment. That's where people burn out. Because if you're not aware of that's like my competency space, and I'm hitting resistance again and again on that, or Nick Clason (12:11.802) Yeah, you know you hate it, don't wanna do it, yeah. Nick Clason (12:18.438) Hmm. Nick Clason (12:23.108) Hmm. Hmm. Derry (12:33.518) I'm living all my tasks. For me, I was in a place where I needed to galvanize in the midst of COVID, a team that wasn't all together on stuff and didn't have a ton of trust in me yet. And I burn out. I burn out inside. I was at a church for three years. Remember, I was at the other one for 23 years. And this is not the fault of anyone. In fact, I think the Lord led me toward it, but a piece that happened that if I could go back over again, I would go. Nick Clason (12:45.466) Yeah, you were pretty new at your role. Yeah. Nick Clason (12:51.429) Mm-hmm. Derry (12:59.938) Who's the galvanizer on my team that I'm gonna go to and say, I need you when it comes time to bring us all together. I wanna work on our relationship so you can trust me, I can trust you, and I need you to step up and galvanize and help me out. So the awareness in that is huge. And I know we dove into that a little bit more. Anybody wants to know more about that, I actually am. I got a certification and facilitation for that. I will be happy to like, you the first five people that. reach out to me that watch this. I'll do a free assessment and a free debrief for you because there's something to be learned in this. Yeah. Nick Clason (13:34.33) That's huge value too, so yeah. We'll link stuff down below in the show notes. can reach out to Dairy for sure. So let's talk about how you then, how do you refuel? How do you refuel in your self-awareness piece of this? Derry (13:39.352) Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. Derry (13:46.636) Yeah. Yeah, this is really good. Yep, yeah, and I think the biggest one, and this is just simply being aware, are you an introvert and an extrovert or an ambervert? You know, and I don't even know if that's scientific. I haven't done a lot of study on it. It's just the ultimate question is what really refuels you when you need to unplug, which we'll talk about un plugging a little bit, but in the moments of unplug, when work needs just be shut off, what is it that actually refuels you? Not what Nick Clason (13:57.52) Hmm. Nick Clason (14:04.805) Yeah, yeah. Derry (14:16.46) What do you, what you do to cope or just zone out? You know, cause people are like, yeah, doom scrolling video games, you know, for some people, man, it is, I just sitting by myself or I, our buddy, Josh Griffin, he is an extrovert off the charts. People refuel him. And I remember he loved online gaming. So video games, it wasn't about the video games that refueled him. was plenty, but he loved video games too, but he was playing with others. Nick Clason (14:21.712) Doom scroll and eat pie. Derry (14:44.59) I don't even know. I'm saying video games that shows how lame I am in that world. I am a creative in nature. love I love like try and I love like seeing creative and trying to pull themes from it. So movies are a great thing, but I'm also I I love people, but I actually refuel when I'm on my own. And so for me, a long there's a long season, the dumbest thing that I think this would help people. So if that's the reality, I kind of refuel on my own, creative things. Nick Clason (14:47.366) You Nick Clason (15:04.806) Mm-hmm. Derry (15:14.168) I'll give you two moments where I'm most greatly refilled that you go, that's stupid. Why would you do that? One was I would weekly on Thursdays pick a movie that had been out for about two or three weeks and go to a local movie theater that I knew it had like daytime matinee times. And this was before kids. And I would try to go to the movie. And my greatest accomplishment was when I got to sit in the movie theater all by myself and watch that movie. Like that was my goal. Yeah. Nick Clason (15:29.412) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (15:38.71) You create like a little bingo card of it. Like, you know, how many times do I get to go to this movie by myself? Derry (15:43.884) Right? Yeah. And it was weird. It was like this one. was just really cool when I said when I would get to that point, because I was just sitting there. It was also a little sense of accomplishment with it. What was really awkward is a lot of old ladies like to go watch movies at that time, too. So it often end up with me and two old ladies in the same studio. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And a lot of old ladies really like action movies. That's another thing. So but that was just that to me, like Nick Clason (16:00.634) Which who knew, right? But now you do because that was your goal. Nick Clason (16:06.886) You Derry (16:12.334) A joke. mean, my wife would laugh at me. People would go, you don't do them movies by yourself. I'm like, I do. You know, I could watch them at my house and do the same. But there was something about that. The other one was for my 40th birthday, you and I both are Disney lovers. And I think I helped you fall in love with Disney. I apologize to your bank account for that. But for my 40th birthday, we spent a lot of time going to Disney World. I was going out to California to a DYM event. And Janelle said, hey, for your birthday, if you're interested, treat yourself to a couple of days at Disneyland. Nick Clason (16:24.858) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (16:29.346) Yeah, I need it. Derry (16:42.378) And so I did, I flew out early and I spent a full day and then a half day at Disneyland all by myself. Nick is so dumb. I was walking through the Magic Kingdom purposely wearing headphones so nobody would talk to me and I started crying because I realized it was the first time in a long time where I was just on my own at nobody else's agenda. I didn't have to worry about anybody else's agenda. Nick Clason (16:59.206) You Mm. Derry (17:10.862) Now that's partly because I was in the season where I was leading team. had little kids. My main role was helping others. Yeah. Yep. And so, so I needed a refuel in a creative space. Like that's what I For me, it's not about the rides. It's the design. It's the creativity. It's the brilliance of a guy like Walt Disney that the single lives on. And so I got it there. So, so that's for me, how I refuel. That's not going to be the same for you. That's not going to be the same for somebody else that's listening. Another person's like, I need to join a book club. Nick Clason (17:16.474) A lot of people vying for your, just your attention, yeah. Nick Clason (17:28.166) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Derry (17:40.718) because I love reading, but I love talking with people about it. Others, might, you whatever it might be. Nick Clason (17:44.634) But I think within that though, right, like one thing that's really key for youth pastors, I would say, is like try to find that community or if you do need like people to recharge, like try to find that, but try to find it in like a lane of like a hobby and not like by being a part of a church small group. You know what I mean? Or like where you're around church people and you still have to sort of like lean back into your role, like find something that truly genuinely like allows you to Derry (18:00.141) Yes. Derry (18:04.492) Yeah. Yep. Derry (18:13.742) That's good, Nick. That's good. You even got me just thinking out loud right now of that moment. I'm sure there's many couples that have set together and said, man, I'm just burned out by this place and we need to find fellowship. And then the next thought is we need to find fellowship in here because that will make us fall back in love with place. And that might be true, but it also might be the greatest mistake you could make is actually, no, we need to find community by going and joining a gaming like board game group. Nick Clason (18:14.318) separate. Derry (18:43.022) or forming a board game group with people, maybe a couple people from the church, but outside the church, but we make it really clear upfront, this is not sponsored by our church whatsoever. Or if you're feeling a level of burnout because you're always leading, what's the thing you can go join that's a group where nobody even knows that you're the leader? Because you walk into your church, and I did it, part of some awesome small groups, but the minute a big theological question came up, or a question about the church, even though I wasn't leading the group, where did all the eyes go? Boom. Nick Clason (19:01.55) Yeah, you're not the leader. Nick Clason (19:11.11) All eyes on you. Yep. Yep. Derry (19:12.588) You know, so yeah, that's right on. like there's a lot of layers we could take that. How do I refuel introvert extrovert? What brings life to you? What type of seasons you're in? I mean, I just thought about this. was telling you part of that Disneyland moment was I needed a space because I was on so many on the demand of so many people. And my wife and I just hit this. She's heading down to Florida with a good friend because she's been in five years of just just always being there for others. Nick Clason (19:30.576) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (19:38.969) on. Yeah. Derry (19:39.864) So even our vacations, she's still on, she's gotta be mama. And I'm like, babe, you are gonna go and it is treat yourself, you know? So there we go. that's self-awareness is key, personality. And then let me give one last one. We can do this one really quick, but it's important. If you've been in ministry for a while, be aware of the seasons that hit extra hard and the seasons that you just come alive in. And if that's the case, then you wanna be aware of it. So like there's season, like we have seasons. Nick Clason (19:42.726) 100%, yep. Nick Clason (19:46.95) haha Derry (20:09.006) that will hit literally in the calendar. If I were to talk to somebody who's been in ministry five or six years or longer and say, tell me some of the toughest times you've gone through. And we were to list out like 15 of them. I guarantee you will notice something that it hit in a certain month or right after a certain event or just in a fall time. I was talking with a counselor who works in the same church I worked in. My season was February, March. And I think a lot of youth pastors do that. February. Nick Clason (20:11.044) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (20:19.866) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (20:29.03) Mm-hmm. Derry (20:38.86) And March is like halfway through this year. Students are kind of like in the doldrums of things, especially in where I live. I'm in the Midwest where the official colors of February and March are brown or gray. And so there's that piece. Nick Clason (20:53.144) And it's just a long, I've learned too, from a youth ministry standpoint, it's a long stretch of nothing. Like the fall, you get to like come back from summer, but it's a quick, honestly, two to three months sprint until the holidays. And that's exciting. But then you come back in January and there's really nothing until like, know, Easter, but that's not for us. That's not for youth pastors. Derry (21:07.788) Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not January. Yeah. January is kind of the joy of getting back together, kicking off here and then it hits. And I just would love for you, you pastors, think about the times where you had to like do an intervention on a suicide, a call to Child Protective Services because of something that came up in the group or a really weird situation where you're like, gosh, that was heavy. and ask yourself, how many times did it fall right in that time? I would like literally tell my team guys, it's February. Once you'd be ready for an extra late night coming up somewhere, cause we're to have to sort through something. Now that, now the counselor that I was working with, he talked about how October was his time, which I love October around here. It's beautiful for him. The trick is it's like, he's in a lot of adult ministry stuff. Groups get kicked off. It's like, he's going, going, going, going. And then it's done. And it's just like a crash time. And so he just hits really, really hard. So Nick Clason (21:45.083) Mm. Nick Clason (21:52.026) Hmm. Yeah. Nick Clason (21:58.906) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Derry (22:06.926) The fellow youth pastor with me who was very like contemplative in nature it was right after summer camp and right there's like this short gap between summer camp and starting for the fall where he would just like struggle and want to quit. So it's different for all of us and I just would say be when you're aware of that one just the awareness alone helps you go. I'm not burning out right now. I'm just in a tough season. Nick Clason (22:14.18) Hmm. Nick Clason (22:22.118) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (22:31.734) Mmm. Mmm. Derry (22:34.698) Also, maybe this is the time where I need to book a vacation or get away, you know, so there's that. So be aware of those areas. Nick Clason (22:38.316) Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, when we lived in the Midwest, we were like, we gotta get outta here in January, February, March. Especially March, because March, when we lived in Chicago, March was like fake spring. It tricks you and you're like, it's spring now, but no, it's not, still in the 30s, it's still in the 40s, and it's still very gray. And you're like, dang, it never switches to spring until really like May. And so that's where we were like, we need to, Derry (22:47.544) Yep. Yeah. Derry (22:52.718) Yeah. Nick Clason (23:07.746) What we would always do, we weren't good at getting in front of it, is during that time, that's when we would book a vacation. And then we'd book it for like September when it's like beautiful. like... Derry (23:14.498) Yeah, right. Good. Yeah, but the anticipation of that and that's probably somewhat inside of how do you refuel? I also refuel on the planning of the vacation almost as much as going on it. And so, yeah, yeah, right, right. So yeah, that's good. And I'm officially lobbying for a fifth season and the season is called Blah. It runs from February up until either Easter or spring break. It's one of those two. Nick Clason (23:21.84) For sure. Nick Clason (23:26.47) Hmm, especially if you're a Disney person that you gotta like you gotta get nerdy about it. So Yeah Derry (23:43.842) The mascot's a leprechaun that's angry, kicking a groundhog. I've got colors, I've got the general, I mean, like, I think we should do it. Name it that and call it what it is. Nick Clason (23:50.596) Listen. We already have it. you, yeah, it's not on the calendar technically, but like it's already there for real. like consider it done. The club is formed. You have your season. Yeah. Derry (23:58.53) Yep. Yeah. There we go. We did it. We did it. Okay, so there we go. That's all I, but that's all inside self-aware for me is know your personality, working genius, recognize how you refuel and then pay attention to where the seasons hit. And we didn't hit it, but where do you come alive and be aware of those times and make sure you're capitalizing on those times in what you come alive with. Nick Clason (24:08.282) You gotta know. Yep. Nick Clason (24:16.262) Mm. Nick Clason (24:21.348) Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, okay, so all self-awareness, like the piece of like burning out into your point, like as people in ministry and maybe even families, like you have a lot of responsibility. And so it almost sometimes feels like even selfish to consider who am I, understanding yourself, where do I come alive, and what do, like this question, what do I need, right? And so part of that burnout piece is like being bold enough to declare what you really need in order to stay healthy. And so, all that being said, that's step one. What's step two? Derry (24:53.422) Mm-hmm. You're still the right... Derry (24:59.118) Yeah, yeah. in that, and then I'll go right into step two out of that. Give yourself permission to speak up for yourself with this mantra in your head. A burnout me is not a successful me. And so you go, man, I can't do that. And grit, yeah, dang it, grit yourself through. There's some of us that are being lazy. We're giving this as excuses. We're saying, need more time off. And it's on us. But also recognize, there's a legit. Nick Clason (25:11.951) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (25:19.184) For sure. Nick Clason (25:22.886) Mm-hmm. Derry (25:27.15) breaking point at times that can happen in some of the stuff. so advocating to say like, hey, I need to schedule a little lighter during this time. I need to... Okay. So with that, that leads great into the next part is recognizing that balance is something you find over time, not in the moment. Yeah. know, balance gets used a lot. am I in balance? And yeah, work-life balance. Nick Clason (25:34.586) Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that, which is so good. Nick Clason (25:45.84) Hmm. Flush that out. Work-life balance. Derry (25:55.086) You know is just like I got it I can't I feel so out of balance and I was feeling that for so long and I remember I was sitting with a in a network valuable that also helps you avoid burnout I was sitting in a network and a guy that been a little longer the topic is balance He goes I've just learned balance is a pipe dream. It's a pipe dream I'm never gonna get it and I was like Balaan. That's ridiculous now. He unfortunately didn't Yeah, he didn't He didn't really flesh it out over time. I'm like Nick Clason (26:13.478) Hmm. Nick Clason (26:17.798) You're like watch this I'm gonna get balance Derry (26:25.314) But I started thinking through it and I was talking to with my mentor and he said, I agree with him if you're looking at it on a day by day basis. The real question is how do I find balance over time? We're gonna probably, like today, my day will be out of balance when it comes to time with my kids because they're at school and it's church tonight and we all head off to our different spaces. But Saturday, Nick Clason (26:46.886) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (26:50.54) areas, Derry (26:54.112) As it sits right now, my daughter has a musical that I'm gonna go, she's three days with a musical for a middle school musical. We've learned. Whole family's going Friday. I'm going Saturday. Wife's going Sunday. Now people that might wanna get mad at me, she's like prop crew. I'm only gonna see her foot once. So Saturday is a ton of family time. But I'm not gonna work at all. That's out of balance, right? My work home life in Saturday. Nick Clason (27:13.626) Yeah Nick Clason (27:20.304) Yeah. Derry (27:22.316) So the whole idea is what does it look like over time? And two tools that I would just say I've learned. One was I taught it to myself. The other was a really brilliant man with wonderful calves named Josh Griffin. I was talking to him right at the time he was finishing up at, what's that one? Saddleback, yeah. I don't know if you ever heard of it. Small church out in California. Nick Clason (27:40.537) Ever heard of it? Yeah. Derry (27:43.88) And he was also starting up DYM, student leadership conference was running like crazy. He was traveling around and doing stuff. And he had like four kids all in like, I got to be on. And I just said, dude, how do you do it? You know, like how in the world do you work this whole balance of stuff? And he goes, no, not great. And then he said, but what I've learned to do is I'm constantly grading myself in those categories. I'm just constantly giving myself a grade. I stop, I pause, I reflect, you know, so saddle back. Nick Clason (27:54.224) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (28:06.374) Hmm. Derry (28:13.774) How am I right now? know what? Camp just finished up A minus. Like I've given them my best and I feel like I'm crushing it there. How am I doing on the DYM world? You know what? It's a B minus, but the reality is we're in summer and a lot of stuff can go on autopilot there. So that's totally fine. How am I on my own soul? Man, I'm really good. I'm gonna live. I'm gonna give that an A because I got great times with Jesus at camp. Nick Clason (28:17.67) Mm. Nick Clason (28:32.869) Mm-hmm. Derry (28:43.726) He didn't tell me this. I'm making this up, but this would be like I could see this be like he didn't tell me these grades, but but then he said, you know, but man, my wife and my kids, I'm going to see minus. And so that's now time where I need to shift over there. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And he said, and that's that's the recognition. And I recognize, you know what? I can go ahead and let Saddleback get down to a BB minus right now. I can I can continue to. Yeah, right. Nick Clason (28:49.114) Bye bye. Nick Clason (28:54.982) Hmm. Nick Clason (28:58.914) There's self-awareness, right? Like that goes back to that first step there. Nick Clason (29:10.758) Yeah, my job's safe. Not getting fired. Derry (29:13.74) Yeah, and let me tell you that like youth pastor, not every not every program has to be an A. There are times where it's OK for it to be a C. I know that's hard and you might have your bosses tell you otherwise. Well, I'm telling you it's OK. It's going to happen. Nick Clason (29:26.852) Yeah, we talk about all the time the principle of good enough. it's like, we've been having this conversation with some of our residents and say, hey, listen, I appreciate how much time you're pouring into message prep, but it's taking away from the other things that we need you to do and that you're really also very good at as well. so like make this message be, or for the love of all that is good, just use co-leader, which is already like better than anything you and I are gonna come up with. Derry (29:43.97) Yep. Yep. Derry (29:51.362) Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Nick Clason (29:54.062) Just use it, because sadly the kids aren't gonna remember it. so fudge so that you can give yourself other places. I love that principle, because you gotta find that, like you said, you gotta find that balance over time. You gotta. Derry (30:03.363) Yeah, yeah. Derry (30:08.846) Yeah, yeah. So it's yeah, as you're grading, sometimes it's, oh, this grades low and I got to get it back up. Other times it's this grades low and that's really OK. Like we have misapplied. I don't get it wrong, but that Colossians passage about whatever you do, do it all for the glory of the Lord, that that that doing it for the glory of Lord equals one hundred and fifty percent. And I absolutely would say, no, that's actually not to the glory of the Lord. You're burning yourself out. And if I give one hundred and fifty percent to make an announcement video where I spend 30 hours turning it into like, you know, Nick Clason (30:13.144) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Derry (30:38.67) MCU movie trailer quality. I was actually wasn't to the glory of the Lord. That was actually to the glory of me or to the glory. And it was a loss that I could have been spending that time with students listening to their struggles and praying and you know, so I think that's really important in it. So there's that grading thing. This is the other one. This one has been huge for me. I we joked about it. I do have a podcast that set dormant forever. And I did a whole episode on this principle. And it's the idea of Nick Clason (30:43.609) Hmm. Interesting. Nick Clason (30:53.808) Mm. Nick Clason (31:07.654) Yeah, we'll link it. We'll link it. What's it? 2018 when it aired? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Derry (31:10.874) It. 2018, 2019, but it is one of my favorite episodes I've ever done, to be really honest, because it just walks through this idea is simply walk, sprint, rest, understanding that that I need to have seasons of all three of those in my own life. And also in my actual ministry flow. And what do I mean by that? I think most of us live with the idea of it's sprint rest more times than not, or if we're lazy. Nick Clason (31:20.422) Mm. Nick Clason (31:25.702) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (31:37.499) Hmm. Derry (31:38.978) We do walk and then rest. But what do I mean by sprint? Sprint is when it's all hands on deck. I'm not gonna fit inside of the 36, 50 hours or whatever that are expected of me. It's gonna be more than that. And it's worth it. Summer camp for me, I recognize that was the time where I got the full group together. We would build vision and we'd do a mission strip before that and something after it. That was a sprint time. Like right around October in our ministry, was outreach season. Nick Clason (31:42.278) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (31:50.95) Mm-hmm. Derry (32:08.203) be able to just have our kids grab ahold of evangelism. And so it was worthy of the extra time. And so that was like that sprint and it needed my best efforts and the ministry needed my best efforts. But then there's also times like where it stop and ask, wait, do we just need to walk right now? And this is almost going back to this is okay if we're at B level or C level here. And in my ministry, December was that time. We would shut down, we would like, Nick Clason (32:33.701) Mm-hmm. Derry (32:37.006) December leading into Christmas. We would shut down the ministry pretty much at Christmas, so that was even rest. You the only thing I had to do was show up to Christmas Eve. But in December, we recognized like, man, if we just hand things over to small groups, that we're gonna crush it, and that takes less planning for us. Like all we have to do is just make sure we've set up small groups well. And so, and we didn't add, like I remember we were wanting to add a fall retreat, and we couldn't find a November, we started to move it to December, and I was like, no, nope, no, that, we were gonna walk in December. We're not gonna throw one more thing in. Nick Clason (32:38.406) Mm-hmm. Derry (33:06.19) And then, and what's crazy, now recognize this, that is a walk season for me. And then my worship pastor, total sprint season, right? But June and summer camps, almost like a rest season for him, right? So, so it's, it's, it's different. So being aware of that, looking at your calendar and even like marking it out and just knowing like, Hey, if there's a sprint season, sometimes it might be, it might be two weeks. It might be six to eight weeks. Now, if they're all like six to eight weeks and you don't see it. Nick Clason (33:13.902) Exactly, yeah. Nick Clason (33:19.206) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (33:30.363) Mm-hmm. Derry (33:34.19) But this is the idea, like, I think we get into this idea, sprint, rest, sprint, rest, sprint, rest. I don't think we're resting. We're sprinting and then we're crashing. Rest actually involves rejuvenating. And then if we're sprinting and then we say we're resting, but all we're doing is walking, we're not taking any time off, then we're in trouble. So finding those things where those come into play and remembering the seasons. So if it's a season where it gets really, really rough, I might personally... need to get the ministry at a walk pace so I can hand it over and I can truly rest and go take a vacation. Honestly, sometimes during a sprint season in the ministry, if you get there long enough, you might actually be able to, again, rest some. I got to the point where I planned some of my vacations over that October time because I had residents that would run without reach, they got the vision, and we'd get away. And it was really, really good for me. again, that grading system and that walk sprint rest system were huge and have been huge for me in helping learn. Nick Clason (34:06.714) Mm. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (34:20.272) Mm-hmm. Derry (34:32.152) to avoid burnout. Nick Clason (34:34.256) So then that's, so step one, be self-aware. Step two, aim for balance over time using those two things, walk, sprint, rest, and the grading system. So then your third one, how do you do, how do you manage and avoid burnout? What's this last piece here? Derry (34:51.406) Yeah, Yeah, and this is where the rest part is key is finding my true unplug. That's the way the principle is the idea of find my true unplug. Rest is unplugging, especially, let's just look at it from ministry, unplugging from the church and the ministry so that I can truly rest or in that rest invest into my soul, my family. And two things for me that are big, and I'll be honest, the one, I'm learning more now over the last couple years that I didn't do well in my ministry life. And that Sabbath, understanding the principle of Sabbath, if you've not read or listened to anything from John Mark Comer on just the idea of the ruthless elimination of hurry and the difference between a day off and Sabbath, there's some great principles in there to hit and what it means to truly just stop, to stop and find joy in the day. Nick Clason (35:36.507) Mm-hmm. Derry (35:49.986) been rediscovering that dude and it's wild and that's a lot more for me that I need that. With the recognition of my family. But the one that has people would ask me all the time. How'd you last 23 years at one church? And I'd say all the time. This is not the reason, but it's the number one thing that I think gets missed so often. And it was huge for us as vacationing. We are in a small town at a very large church that Nick Clason (36:14.694) Hmm. Derry (36:18.498) that just goes, I loved and still love youth mystery. And so I can't stop thinking about it. It's on my mind all the time everywhere I'm going. And so the ability to truly unplug from the church, I needed to get away. And so my wife and I learned, yeah. Nick Clason (36:24.762) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (36:31.728) Mm-hmm. Because you can't just do it in town because it's the church is such a big component of that area. Yeah. Derry (36:38.53) Yeah. Yeah, we would literally have to go on dates if we wanted to like get away. We would go like two towns over just so we wouldn't run into people. And and and so the idea of a prolonged time to truly get a week to go on vacation. I some people do staycations didn't work for us because my mind was too on. so getting and traveling somewhere and we got pretty pretty dedicated and it was huge. It became significant before kids. We went six years without kids and we had Nick Clason (36:44.292) Yeah. Yeah. Derry (37:08.974) two significant vacations a year most of the time. And some people would go like, can't afford it. Well, we found ways to do one. Nick Clason (37:17.296) That's, I was gonna ask that, like, youth pastors notoriously, I can't do it, I don't have money, like, how do you do it? Derry (37:22.668) Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll say there's two things. One would be you find creative ways, you know, my parents, I'm fortunate my parents had a cabin up in Michigan that we would go to and that was a much cheaper vacation. But Dave Ramsey would get mad at me for this. But I say, I think you got more money than you realize. It's just where you spend money. And so we committed to run our cars into the ground and not like do a new Nick Clason (37:38.438) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (37:50.949) Mm-hmm. Derry (37:52.59) new lease. We dropped a lot of subscriptions other people would have because we said, man, this is where the money goes. But this is my Dave Ramseyism. would I so believe in this. would have even risked debt in that area to go on a vacation because I don't think this money we're spending on vacations is spending, it's investing. And so Disney, like you and I have talked about, Disney became our thing. Well, there's not a way to do Disney cheap. There's a way to do Nick Clason (37:56.486) Hmm. Nick Clason (38:06.288) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (38:12.215) Yeah, that's good. Derry (38:20.728) There's a way to save money on Disney if you learn how to do it. And so we did, we found ways to do that. And but what we did with that, was a couple key things we learned over time. One was Janelle would say it all the time. First, that's my wife, by the way. She would first say it was just the two of us. It's like, that's the one time where I have you. Like I have you. Like you're totally there and present with us. And it's not like she was saying you're a terrible husband who never does, but. Nick Clason (38:22.048) Do it cheaper. Yeah. Yeah. Nick Clason (38:39.174) Hmm. Derry (38:47.906) But I know you love the ministry and I love the ministry too. She worked at the church as well most of time. so that was so significant. But also man, memories that have been built. With my kids, we sit around the table lot of times and we just do a, hey, share a favorite family memory. Do you know how many of them are tied around that one time at Disney when my youngest who had always walked into the house after swimming in our backyard and just pull his shorts down? like, know, so we were like. Nick Clason (38:54.928) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (39:02.372) Mm. Derry (39:15.842) done in the way pool, gonna go grab lunch. And we just look over and he's like walking naked in the middle of a water park at Disney because, know, we're like all laughing and remember like you just the memories, the piece of that so key. But this is the other part and a key rule we did. We set a 30 minute, 30 mile rule where because we were both working in the church, it was like, once we get to a certain point, we don't talk church at all. And we kind of got really belligerent with it where it was like, we aren't even gonna talk about. Nick Clason (39:23.565) Thank Nick Clason (39:32.144) Hmm. Nick Clason (39:42.374) Hmm. Derry (39:44.268) our friends who go to the church. Because we were just so enveloped in it. was like just such a part of like we both worked there. We loved it, but also it drove us nuts at times. so. Nick Clason (39:45.892) Hmm. Nick Clason (39:51.312) Yeah. Yeah. That, I've tried that too, like I tried implementing that and it's hard, bro. Like it's really difficult to do and I actually like failed a lot at it. Derry (40:00.212) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we've been able to hold. She's great at holding me accountable to it in a loving way. But also there were moments I needed it. And so so we would we would stick to it. We didn't like, you know, when we fail, we'd go, OK, tomorrow we pick back up again. But what that did would often lead to some really awkward. don't know what to talk about time. And then on the other end, it would lead to I wouldn't call it like. Nick Clason (40:13.381) Yeah. Nick Clason (40:25.51) Mm-hmm. Derry (40:29.858) deep, rich, like all of sudden, you know, we're burying our souls to the, you know, the Lord's speaking new vision to us. Sometimes it was, but sometimes it was just, we just got to like talk about random things from our childhood that we never knew before, because we needed to find a topic to talk about. We just like watched some really, really stupid videos together because we weren't sure what to do and laughed a ton. And so things like... Nick Clason (40:46.394) Hmm. Yeah. Derry (40:56.854) just other topics and other things and zeroing in, been enormous for us. Nick Clason (41:00.164) That's so good. Yeah. think, I think, like listen, if you're watching, listening, maybe for some of you, like this is your next step, like plan a vacation, right? I know you might not feel like you have money, the means, whatever, but like you have vacation time. And one of the things you said on a podcast years ago that resonated deeply with me is don't leave any vacation days on the table. Derry (41:16.386) Mm-hmm. Derry (41:21.485) Yeah. Derry (41:26.146) I'm so glad you just said that. Yeah. Explain it. Explain it. Nick Clason (41:27.524) Yeah, because like here's the thing. What I now tell people is like, you're if you get two weeks of vacation, you are being hired like in America, we stink at this, first of all, but like you're being hired to work 50 weeks out of 52 weeks. So if you work 51 weeks because you only take one week off, you gave your church a free week of your work and that's not fair to you. And they're taking advantage of it. And nobody is going to say anything. Like if you have a great manager who's Derry (41:40.888) Yes. Derry (41:47.96) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (41:56.326) pushing you to do that, that's fantastic, but that's typically the exception, not the rule. And so if you get 50, if you get two weeks of vacation, you better only work 50 of them. And even if like you, even if you said, do a staycation, don't go anywhere, but like don't go to the office. it's, the job will get done without you because the other thing that I hate to break it to you is one day you're gonna leave cause you're gonna resign, you're gonna retire, you're gonna die and they will figure out. what to do with that position. But you will never be able to be the husband to your wife or the wife to your husband or the father to your children or any of those other relationships like you uniquely can only invest in those places. And so don't leave days on table. Derry (42:39.278) Yeah, yep. thank you. Like you're right on, that's so key. It's, you know, like I would just love people to reflect. Are you at a church where when you do your all staff and you come together and you go through and you just celebrate everybody that worked extra hard, right? And everybody cheers. Why doesn't the church ever go, hey, it's the end of the year. We just want to celebrate the following people that used up every one of their vacation days. You know, they're not going to do that, but actually they'd be smart. Nick Clason (42:56.249) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (43:04.548) Yeah. No. Derry (43:08.312) What you're saying is true, but the reverse is true as well. If I haven't taken that time to unplug that 51st week and probably the 49th, 48th and 47th aren't even going to be the best versions of me, right? Like you're, you're, you're actually making it suffer because there's, we could go forever in this. When you're away, you have to delegate. So you now are living out the Ephesians four principle that you got to equip people for ministry. And then also you're reminded, I love this place, but they don't need me. Everything. Nothing fell apart. Nick Clason (43:17.238) Mm. Yeah, they suffer a little bit, but... Nick Clason (43:27.194) Mm-hmm. That's it. Yeah. Nick Clason (43:35.76) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Derry (43:37.154) And so now you get to do it out of joy, not out of obligation. And then here's, let me give one more on top of this. This is what people are doing that are listening to this right now. I've really sucked at this. I really need to do it. And then if their vacation recycles in December or mine always recycled in June, they're like, I'm to do that. But then there's a real problem you've got probably where you're, moving toward burnout. If you find yourself every year when it's about time to recycle that you have to all of sudden cash in all your vacation days or you lose them. Nick Clason (43:39.662) Absolutely. Nick Clason (44:04.432) Mm-hmm. Derry (44:04.834) And so you're saying, no, I take all my days off. But what you do is not spread them out. Well, go back to the walk, sprint and rest. Look at that plan ahead, block out where the times are, find what works for you and recognize that I got so sick in the team. I was leading that I, I put my money where my mouth is on this, where I would say, how many vacation days are you at? And like, I'd celebrate it, but it also they are vacation time would recycle in June. And we had till August to use it. Nick Clason (44:09.03) Mm. Yup. Derry (44:33.56) Well, that was all our summer camp season that went right into the fall break. And I would have like people gone in between camp and fall. And I was like, listen, I believe in this so much, we're gonna figure it out. But next year, please think through, you know, cause this isn't good for you. So there's like, I would just say that's really, really important to think through with it all. And again, find your true unplug. Nick and I love Disney. Nick Clason (44:36.09) Yeah, can't, you can't. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (44:44.794) Yeah, do something in March, bro. Yeah, yeah. Nick Clason (45:00.358) Mm-hmm. Derry (45:01.016) That might be the worst place for you to go do an unplug. And quite honestly, I'm not doing it much now because my oldest son, he's too cool for it. We've made the shift over to national parks because our kids can walk. And my word, man, like I'm exhausted, but God is alive in the beauty of it. So find your unplug. Nick Clason (45:14.896) But it's good, yeah. Well, and I would say for us, the reason we like it is because it keeps us so busy, we don't really have time to sit around and talk about work. You know what mean? That's one of the reasons that we like Disney so much is like you said, it's just our family, it's just us trying to accomplish the thing and with all, trying to get the schedules and everything locked in. Derry (45:26.21) Yep. Right. Derry (45:36.664) Yeah, your boys are at a spot where like they you get to see there's nothing quite like seeing your kids overwhelmed with a joy. Yeah, like man, I'm getting flooded with even great memories right now of some times with that. Yeah, man. I love it. Nick Clason (45:42.798) See Mickey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so true. Yeah, yeah. Man, Derry, you crushed it. Thank you. People wanna do some of the stuff you got offering, like plug it up, plug it up here real quick before we wrap up. Derry (45:53.57) Thank you, man. Derry (45:59.992) Yeah, yeah, still working on the best way. don't, you know, I'm not, I don't have a great corporate master plan in this all, but I would say the first thing to check out from a website is YML cohort.com. That's Y is in yodel, is in marry, L is in ladle. I don't know. cohort. Yeah. Youthministereleadercohort.com. That's something we're doing that Nick talked about. and we, we run them in winter, spring, and in the fall and they're 10 weeks long. Nick Clason (46:15.993) or youth ministry leader. Derry (46:28.97) I'm toying around with maybe a summer one. I don't know. But check that out. But even if it's like in the middle where there's not one, there's an interest form you can fill out there. Always reach out to me anywhere on social. Like I offered that working genius thing. It's just at Dairy Prinkert. So D-E-R-R-Y P-R-E-N K-E-R-T. Find me. I'm not on TikTok. Nick Clason (46:51.77) That's okay, people aren't finding people on TikTok anyway. They're just watching funny videos, yeah. Derry (46:53.612) Yeah, it's hard to find. I'm on Instagram and I'm on Facebook the most and so find me there. And if you don't like anything, go post it over on X and I won't read it. Nick Clason (47:06.544) There you go. Love it, man. Hey, thank you so much for investing in youth leaders in this way and how you avoid burnout. Absolutely. Thanks, dude. All right. Hey guys, until next time, we'll see you. Bye. Derry (47:09.602) Thank you, dude. Thank you, Nick. Thanks for your investment, man. I love what you're doing. 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Introduction and Background
04:37 Principle #1 - Self Awareness
05:54 Personality Profiles
14:08 Refueling Strategies
17:54 Get a Hobby Out of Church
19:47 Be Aware of Seasons
25:03 Balance over Time - Grading Principle
30:06 The Walk, Sprint, Rest Explained
33:21 Find your True Unplug - Sabbath
34:32 Maximizing Vacation Days

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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:01.178)
Well, what's up everyone? Here I am with my friend Derry, who we're just, what were we doing? Like last week we were like counting it out. We've known each other now like nine years, I think it is, which is, that's actually like a weird number to say. That makes me feel old. And I don't think of myself as old, but I think I am now. So Derry, how you doing this morning, bro?

Derry (00:23.319)
I'm good. You're not old. You're like my youngest brother old does that make sense? I can't be I could be your uncle, but ultimately

Nick Clason (00:27.654)
Sure, I'll take it. Yeah, so give us like a 30 second flyover, like who are you, in, know, what qualifies you to talk about this topic today of burnout?

Derry (00:43.758)
I am a youth pastor at heart that served in traditional youth ministry in a youth pastor role for 26 years, 23 of those at one church, three at another. And now I work with ministry leaders as a whole, but really it's all next gen people is where my heart is. And that's what I do through an organization called Standing Stone Ministry and run that in a lot of different formats. And it's all free, confidential, all about coaching, consultation and care.

And why I can talk about this is because I've had incredible victories in it and deep, massive failures when it comes to, I think, avoiding burnout in a lot of places, but also coming face to face with burnout, because it sneaks up on us. And so I can speak from both the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, which is an old ABC-wide world of sports thing. If you've never seen it, watch the YouTube clip. It's amazing.

Nick Clason (01:37.946)
Well, I'll listen, I'll just say, for those of you who are like, you know, later on in maybe your youth ministry career and you're trying to create like coaching and cohorts, like Derry is the guy that is throwing a wrench into all of your plans because, I'll just plug like the youth ministry leader cohort, which is incredible value, which people would pay typically thousands of dollars to be a part of your offering now for somehow free. And I don't know how you're doing it.

but I've been a part of it, I've helped facilitate one. I mean, it's awesome. So there's your plug and that's at least a step in this whole burnout deal. So.

Derry (02:10.958)
Yeah. Thanks, man.

Absolutely, it's huge. how we do it, you just said part of it, because there's some amazing people that do it where by payment is friendship. And then there's a group of people and organizations that believe in this stuff. They love the church and they love the next generation, and they are footing the bill for us to do this. And I hope that alone brings hope to this youth ministry world. Like we just sometimes feel like, you know, everybody's against us. And it is, there's parts that are lot against us. There are people that are

Nick Clason (02:23.982)
Hahaha

Nick Clason (02:29.988)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (02:35.27)
Which is really cool.

Derry (02:45.95)
So no, they just so know the value. They're either paying it forward from their youth ministry experience, they just recognize that the church and the hope of the church is found in this next generation, and so why not invest in the people investing in them? so, yeah, that's how we do it, but also it's just a reminder to anybody listening to this. Because if you're watching this and you're thinking you're burnt out, part of it is I just, don't make a difference and nobody sees what I'm doing. No, that's seen.

Nick Clason (02:48.998)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (02:59.302)
Yeah, it's good.

Nick Clason (03:07.056)
Hmm, that's good. Well, so Derry has like kind of like a three step sort of framework or little outline, I guess, of what we're gonna kind of walk through today. So what, Derry, take us through like step number one of this whole burnout conversation, where does someone start?

Derry (03:24.942)
Yeah, yeah, think, you know, it's so hard because burnout comes in so many forms. I mean, there's I'm just way overworked burnout. There's I'm not fulfilled burnout. There's relational burnout, which I don't think I'm to be able to hit that one a lot, but that's big, you know, and that's that's a little bit different. And then there's just like I'm in the wrong kind of work burnout, you know. So so it goes all these different ways. So ultimately, I was just thinking like you said, how do I? And I would say here's how I either have burnout.

or in the midst of burnout, caught it and recognize and put in practices, not so much to get out of it to avoid it the next time. Because I have burnout multiple times, you know? And so people are like, yeah, you lasted 23 years. OK, so three things. they're not like steps, but just like I guess I'd go principles and then some ways I do it. The first, I think, a key to avoiding burnout is self-awareness. I mean, it's just a simple thing. It's self-awareness because we're all wired in different ways.

Nick Clason (04:02.021)
you

Nick Clason (04:10.576)
Okay.

Nick Clason (04:16.39)
Hmm.

Derry (04:21.326)
that we will find our fuel, we'll find our exhaustion, we'll find ourselves caught up in our head and we'll refuel in different ways. And so that's a big one and I'll give you three pieces inside of self-awareness and you can stop me and ask me along in this. I would say the first one that I would throw out is your personality and your working genius is what I throw out. There's profiles out there that help you just learn.

what, like who you are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, they're, they're profiles, right? They're not, they're not like, I got really tired of the Enneagram when it hit because I, I was into the disc profile. Others are Myers and Briggs, Myers Briggs. And I got annoyed with the Enneagram because people were like, this is the answer to everything. I never forget. sat in this like a millennial group and a person said, Enneagram is like a color wheel. And I was like, you just basically said this thing.

Nick Clason (04:52.592)
Like who you are, how you work, how you recharge, all that, yeah.

Nick Clason (05:02.726)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (05:15.206)
Ha

Derry (05:20.856)
can say whatever you want. Like there is a reality of that, but no, like there is absolutely wiring inside of it. So I don't care what it is, if you take it and it resonates with you, pause and say, okay, if I am a personality that comes alive when I'm helping people versus I'm a personality and it's behind the scenes and I don't want credit versus I do want to be out front. Well, then when you're aware in that and you're catching that, you recognize.

Nick Clason (05:22.435)
You

Nick Clason (05:39.942)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (05:48.854)
man, I gotta find myself over toward the work that's gonna bring life to me. And if I'm living too much over, and those profiles help you a lot with that.

Nick Clason (05:55.43)
Well, and then conversely, right? Like how you rest too, right? In that, so even like, like I'm a task type person. Like I'm an Enneagram one, my wife is an Enneagram two, so she likes to help people. So like she recharges a lot through like relationships where like I not quite as much. And so even within our own like marriage and relationship, understanding like a thing that might bring her life might drain me, you know? And so we kind of need to know even how to strike the balance like within that too.

Derry (05:58.772)
Exactly right.

Mm-hmm.

Derry (06:23.822)
Yeah, and Nick, for those that are married, personality stuff and I'll talk about the working genius in a second, awesome to do with your spouse because let's be honest, when they're out of whack, if our spouse is not in a good space and they're burning out, it burns us out too. And it's not their fault. It's actually maybe we gotta take the responsibility to go, am I aware enough?

Nick Clason (06:29.902)
Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (06:41.826)
Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah.

Derry (06:47.586)
I'm telling you, man, I've dove into the working genius side a whole lot more. We're getting ready to learn more on some personality profile stuff, my wife and I to help people. But it makes sense, right? Like the love language talk, you're going to tend to express love in the way you want it. But if that's not somebody's love language, they might not receive it to the level you think they can. so so so that it is just big. So personality profiles really good. If you aren't aware of this thing called working genius, it's a lot like if you've ever heard of strength Clifton strength finder. It's a similar thing, but it's a work.

productivity tool. wish it was called like working energizing or working joys because genius can throw you off. The idea is there's these six different parts to work and all of us come alive in two parts to it. It might not be step one. It might be or step one and step two. It might be step one and step five. So it mixes all around, but we come alive into, we can get by into and we die into meaning

Nick Clason (07:18.8)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (07:29.082)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (07:37.914)
Mm.

Nick Clason (07:45.636)
Yeah.

Derry (07:46.146)
There's two of them that like when we're in it, we're like, we're Captain America. I could do it all day. So like work, if you're a creative person that then loves to track down the creatives, your invention to nasty. I don't know anybody like that. Yeah.

Nick Clason (07:50.288)
You

Nick Clason (07:55.738)
Give us yours, like what are you, like what, talk about a project that you're Captain America in, like you could do all day, and then talk about a type of project that like you can't, you don't wanna do, or you wanna hand off, or you just wanna like, you know, be done, cause it's the worst.

Derry (08:01.026)
Yeah. Yep.

Derry (08:06.658)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me help you with it even. Because I think there's that way to do it. There's also just the, it's every work involves all six of these steps. And so it's also an awareness of if I have to do this from beginning and end, when I'm aware of that, I can do that. But also you're usually working in a team. So there's wonder, which is you love pondering the possibilities. There's invention where you're the, me a blank whiteboard and I come up with ideas. There's discernment where I'm processing through.

Nick Clason (08:15.696)
Yeah.

Derry (08:34.926)
what ideas have merit, where there's themes, and just kind of catching what goes on. There's galvanizing, where it's like the cheer everybody, bring everybody together and go, let's go for this. It's the rally cry person. A lot of youth pastors are galvanizing geniuses, because they love to rally the group together. It's that, like the greatest accomplishment is we're all excited, don't know what we're doing, but we're all, no. No, but that's galvanizing. Then there's enablement, not the best name for it, but that's where you want to come alongside.

Nick Clason (08:50.923)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (09:03.926)
and help whatever the vision is happen. Also, youth pastors are enablement geniuses, especially if they last a while, because you're often having to fulfill the mission of the greater church and then come alongside. you're the moment when they go, we're looking for volunteers to help with. you might not, you just go, would love to, yes, thank you, let me do this. And then there's tenacity. And that's like the hit the deadline, nail the detail stuff, right? So my genius is invention and discernment.

Nick Clason (09:08.251)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:13.638)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:20.132)
Yeah, let's the youth pastor. Yeah.

Nick Clason (09:28.87)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (09:33.154)
give me a blank whiteboard or a brainstorm session and I come alive. Because not only like you present and the second, they call it the genius, competency and your frustration. So my genius is invention and discernment. They are back to back. My competency is wonder. So I don't mind pondering the questions and galvanizing is my other competency. So I can rally the team together. But I'm at my greatest on service, like semester planning.

Nick Clason (09:45.168)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:53.062)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (10:02.85)
When we would do that in my team, it was the greatest day in the world because that was our time where we were going to brainstorm. We were going to identify possibilities of what we could do. We were going to try to see how the Holy Spirit would bring together all these ideas we put up on the whiteboard and find the themes and go, there's a series. Here's the scripture we're going to come out of, or here's the scripture we're going to start with. But here's how we can flesh this out for students. Here's this new idea we have on something. I mean, like you can see me like talking about, right? And then.

Nick Clason (10:28.996)
Yeah, but as someone that is like tenacity, like a whiteboard meeting's great, but I feel like I'm losing a day's worth of work.

Derry (10:36.052)
Exactly right, right? So that's the key in this thing is because there's that part for you where your genius is dying when you're in that one spot because you want to get to it. But then there's also your frustration that when you get into that portion. So my assistant for years, best assistant in the world because she was amazing and she wasn't an assistant. She was like a co-pastor. She just loved the behind the scenes and getting things done.

Nick Clason (10:41.83)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (10:59.974)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (11:03.138)
Okay, I wish we had a map, but wonder, invention, discernment, galvanizing. Remember, that's all the beginning of the work. And I am either good to go or fully alive in that. And then my frustration is actually the enablement piece of being delegated out to me, especially if it's not my idea. kind of like, gosh, don't call on me to do it. It sounds so selfish, but I get it, I'll do it, but it kills me. And then finish the project. So my big joke I tell people all the time is I'm amazing at starting things.

Nick Clason (11:09.296)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (11:23.078)
No, I get it.

Derry (11:32.846)
period.

Nick Clason (11:33.476)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (11:35.278)
Um, but she was enabled into nasty genius. So she's dying in these brainstorm meetings. I'm frustrated in part because like, why aren't you excited about this? And she's like, just tell me what to do and I'll do it. And then, and then she's coming back to me and going, give me the details. like, I just gave you the big vision. I, know, I don't want to get in your way. Well, that's because I don't want people to get in my way, but we, we also found ways to work together. So that's team side. Personally, here's why this is so important in burnout. They've done a ton of study on the thing, like 2 million assessments and

Nick Clason (11:39.366)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (11:45.83)
Mm.

Nick Clason (12:03.334)
Hmm.

Derry (12:04.738)
Remember, there's three areas. There's the place you're a genius where you come alive fully. There's then your frustration, the one where it's like, just get me out of here. Then there's like, yeah. Then there's your competency, where you're actually good at it. People affirm you, you know you're good at it. But the trick is over time, it loses its fulfillment. That's where people burn out. Because if you're not aware of that's like my competency space, and I'm hitting resistance again and again on that, or

Nick Clason (12:11.802)
Yeah, you know you hate it, don't wanna do it, yeah.

Nick Clason (12:18.438)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (12:23.108)
Hmm. Hmm.

Derry (12:33.518)
I'm living all my tasks. For me, I was in a place where I needed to galvanize in the midst of COVID, a team that wasn't all together on stuff and didn't have a ton of trust in me yet. And I burn out. I burn out inside. I was at a church for three years. Remember, I was at the other one for 23 years. And this is not the fault of anyone. In fact, I think the Lord led me toward it, but a piece that happened that if I could go back over again, I would go.

Nick Clason (12:45.466)
Yeah, you were pretty new at your role. Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:51.429)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (12:59.938)
Who's the galvanizer on my team that I'm gonna go to and say, I need you when it comes time to bring us all together. I wanna work on our relationship so you can trust me, I can trust you, and I need you to step up and galvanize and help me out. So the awareness in that is huge. And I know we dove into that a little bit more. Anybody wants to know more about that, I actually am. I got a certification and facilitation for that. I will be happy to like, you the first five people that.

reach out to me that watch this. I'll do a free assessment and a free debrief for you because there's something to be learned in this. Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:34.33)
That's huge value too, so yeah. We'll link stuff down below in the show notes. can reach out to Dairy for sure. So let's talk about how you then, how do you refuel? How do you refuel in your self-awareness piece of this?

Derry (13:39.352)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So.

Derry (13:46.636)
Yeah. Yeah, this is really good. Yep, yeah, and I think the biggest one, and this is just simply being aware, are you an introvert and an extrovert or an ambervert? You know, and I don't even know if that's scientific. I haven't done a lot of study on it. It's just the ultimate question is what really refuels you when you need to unplug, which we'll talk about un plugging a little bit, but in the moments of unplug, when work needs just be shut off, what is it that actually refuels you? Not what

Nick Clason (13:57.52)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (14:04.805)
Yeah, yeah.

Derry (14:16.46)
What do you, what you do to cope or just zone out? You know, cause people are like, yeah, doom scrolling video games, you know, for some people, man, it is, I just sitting by myself or I, our buddy, Josh Griffin, he is an extrovert off the charts. People refuel him. And I remember he loved online gaming. So video games, it wasn't about the video games that refueled him. was plenty, but he loved video games too, but he was playing with others.

Nick Clason (14:21.712)
Doom scroll and eat pie.

Derry (14:44.59)
I don't even know. I'm saying video games that shows how lame I am in that world. I am a creative in nature. love I love like try and I love like seeing creative and trying to pull themes from it. So movies are a great thing, but I'm also I I love people, but I actually refuel when I'm on my own. And so for me, a long there's a long season, the dumbest thing that I think this would help people. So if that's the reality, I kind of refuel on my own, creative things.

Nick Clason (14:47.366)
You

Nick Clason (15:04.806)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (15:14.168)
I'll give you two moments where I'm most greatly refilled that you go, that's stupid. Why would you do that? One was I would weekly on Thursdays pick a movie that had been out for about two or three weeks and go to a local movie theater that I knew it had like daytime matinee times. And this was before kids. And I would try to go to the movie. And my greatest accomplishment was when I got to sit in the movie theater all by myself and watch that movie. Like that was my goal. Yeah.

Nick Clason (15:29.412)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (15:38.71)
You create like a little bingo card of it. Like, you know, how many times do I get to go to this movie by myself?

Derry (15:43.884)
Right? Yeah. And it was weird. It was like this one. was just really cool when I said when I would get to that point, because I was just sitting there. It was also a little sense of accomplishment with it. What was really awkward is a lot of old ladies like to go watch movies at that time, too. So it often end up with me and two old ladies in the same studio. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And a lot of old ladies really like action movies. That's another thing. So but that was just that to me, like

Nick Clason (16:00.634)
Which who knew, right? But now you do because that was your goal.

Nick Clason (16:06.886)
You

Derry (16:12.334)
A joke. mean, my wife would laugh at me. People would go, you don't do them movies by yourself. I'm like, I do. You know, I could watch them at my house and do the same. But there was something about that. The other one was for my 40th birthday, you and I both are Disney lovers. And I think I helped you fall in love with Disney. I apologize to your bank account for that. But for my 40th birthday, we spent a lot of time going to Disney World. I was going out to California to a DYM event. And Janelle said, hey, for your birthday, if you're interested, treat yourself to a couple of days at Disneyland.

Nick Clason (16:24.858)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (16:29.346)
Yeah, I need it.

Derry (16:42.378)
And so I did, I flew out early and I spent a full day and then a half day at Disneyland all by myself. Nick is so dumb. I was walking through the Magic Kingdom purposely wearing headphones so nobody would talk to me and I started crying because I realized it was the first time in a long time where I was just on my own at nobody else's agenda. I didn't have to worry about anybody else's agenda.

Nick Clason (16:59.206)
You

Mm.

Derry (17:10.862)
Now that's partly because I was in the season where I was leading team. had little kids. My main role was helping others. Yeah. Yep. And so, so I needed a refuel in a creative space. Like that's what I For me, it's not about the rides. It's the design. It's the creativity. It's the brilliance of a guy like Walt Disney that the single lives on. And so I got it there. So, so that's for me, how I refuel. That's not going to be the same for you. That's not going to be the same for somebody else that's listening. Another person's like, I need to join a book club.

Nick Clason (17:16.474)
A lot of people vying for your, just your attention, yeah.

Nick Clason (17:28.166)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (17:40.718)
because I love reading, but I love talking with people about it. Others, might, you whatever it might be.

Nick Clason (17:44.634)
But I think within that though, right, like one thing that's really key for youth pastors, I would say, is like try to find that community or if you do need like people to recharge, like try to find that, but try to find it in like a lane of like a hobby and not like by being a part of a church small group. You know what I mean? Or like where you're around church people and you still have to sort of like lean back into your role, like find something that truly genuinely like allows you to

Derry (18:00.141)
Yes.

Derry (18:04.492)
Yeah. Yep.

Derry (18:13.742)
That's good, Nick. That's good. You even got me just thinking out loud right now of that moment. I'm sure there's many couples that have set together and said, man, I'm just burned out by this place and we need to find fellowship. And then the next thought is we need to find fellowship in here because that will make us fall back in love with place. And that might be true, but it also might be the greatest mistake you could make is actually, no, we need to find community by going and joining a gaming like board game group.

Nick Clason (18:14.318)
separate.

Derry (18:43.022)
or forming a board game group with people, maybe a couple people from the church, but outside the church, but we make it really clear upfront, this is not sponsored by our church whatsoever. Or if you're feeling a level of burnout because you're always leading, what's the thing you can go join that's a group where nobody even knows that you're the leader? Because you walk into your church, and I did it, part of some awesome small groups, but the minute a big theological question came up, or a question about the church, even though I wasn't leading the group, where did all the eyes go? Boom.

Nick Clason (19:01.55)
Yeah, you're not the leader.

Nick Clason (19:11.11)
All eyes on you. Yep. Yep.

Derry (19:12.588)
You know, so yeah, that's right on. like there's a lot of layers we could take that. How do I refuel introvert extrovert? What brings life to you? What type of seasons you're in? I mean, I just thought about this. was telling you part of that Disneyland moment was I needed a space because I was on so many on the demand of so many people. And my wife and I just hit this. She's heading down to Florida with a good friend because she's been in five years of just just always being there for others.

Nick Clason (19:30.576)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (19:38.969)
on. Yeah.

Derry (19:39.864)
So even our vacations, she's still on, she's gotta be mama. And I'm like, babe, you are gonna go and it is treat yourself, you know? So there we go. that's self-awareness is key, personality. And then let me give one last one. We can do this one really quick, but it's important. If you've been in ministry for a while, be aware of the seasons that hit extra hard and the seasons that you just come alive in. And if that's the case, then you wanna be aware of it. So like there's season, like we have seasons.

Nick Clason (19:42.726)
100%, yep.

Nick Clason (19:46.95)
haha

Derry (20:09.006)
that will hit literally in the calendar. If I were to talk to somebody who's been in ministry five or six years or longer and say, tell me some of the toughest times you've gone through. And we were to list out like 15 of them. I guarantee you will notice something that it hit in a certain month or right after a certain event or just in a fall time. I was talking with a counselor who works in the same church I worked in. My season was February, March. And I think a lot of youth pastors do that. February.

Nick Clason (20:11.044)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (20:19.866)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (20:29.03)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (20:38.86)
And March is like halfway through this year. Students are kind of like in the doldrums of things, especially in where I live. I'm in the Midwest where the official colors of February and March are brown or gray. And so there's that piece.

Nick Clason (20:53.144)
And it's just a long, I've learned too, from a youth ministry standpoint, it's a long stretch of nothing. Like the fall, you get to like come back from summer, but it's a quick, honestly, two to three months sprint until the holidays. And that's exciting. But then you come back in January and there's really nothing until like, know, Easter, but that's not for us. That's not for youth pastors.

Derry (21:07.788)
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not January. Yeah. January is kind of the joy of getting back together, kicking off here and then it hits. And I just would love for you, you pastors, think about the times where you had to like do an intervention on a suicide, a call to Child Protective Services because of something that came up in the group or a really weird situation where you're like, gosh, that was heavy.

and ask yourself, how many times did it fall right in that time? I would like literally tell my team guys, it's February. Once you'd be ready for an extra late night coming up somewhere, cause we're to have to sort through something. Now that, now the counselor that I was working with, he talked about how October was his time, which I love October around here. It's beautiful for him. The trick is it's like, he's in a lot of adult ministry stuff. Groups get kicked off. It's like, he's going, going, going, going. And then it's done. And it's just like a crash time. And so he just hits really, really hard. So

Nick Clason (21:45.083)
Mm.

Nick Clason (21:52.026)
Hmm. Yeah.

Nick Clason (21:58.906)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (22:06.926)
The fellow youth pastor with me who was very like contemplative in nature it was right after summer camp and right there's like this short gap between summer camp and starting for the fall where he would just like struggle and want to quit. So it's different for all of us and I just would say be when you're aware of that one just the awareness alone helps you go. I'm not burning out right now. I'm just in a tough season.

Nick Clason (22:14.18)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (22:22.118)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (22:31.734)
Mmm. Mmm.

Derry (22:34.698)
Also, maybe this is the time where I need to book a vacation or get away, you know, so there's that. So be aware of those areas.

Nick Clason (22:38.316)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, when we lived in the Midwest, we were like, we gotta get outta here in January, February, March. Especially March, because March, when we lived in Chicago, March was like fake spring. It tricks you and you're like, it's spring now, but no, it's not, still in the 30s, it's still in the 40s, and it's still very gray. And you're like, dang, it never switches to spring until really like May. And so that's where we were like, we need to,

Derry (22:47.544)
Yep. Yeah.

Derry (22:52.718)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (23:07.746)
What we would always do, we weren't good at getting in front of it, is during that time, that's when we would book a vacation. And then we'd book it for like September when it's like beautiful. like...

Derry (23:14.498)
Yeah, right. Good.

Yeah, but the anticipation of that and that's probably somewhat inside of how do you refuel? I also refuel on the planning of the vacation almost as much as going on it. And so, yeah, yeah, right, right. So yeah, that's good. And I'm officially lobbying for a fifth season and the season is called Blah. It runs from February up until either Easter or spring break. It's one of those two.

Nick Clason (23:21.84)
For sure.

Nick Clason (23:26.47)
Hmm, especially if you're a Disney person that you gotta like you gotta get nerdy about it. So Yeah

Derry (23:43.842)
The mascot's a leprechaun that's angry, kicking a groundhog. I've got colors, I've got the general, I mean, like, I think we should do it. Name it that and call it what it is.

Nick Clason (23:50.596)
Listen.

We already have it. you, yeah, it's not on the calendar technically, but like it's already there for real. like consider it done. The club is formed. You have your season. Yeah.

Derry (23:58.53)
Yep. Yeah.

There we go. We did it. We did it. Okay, so there we go. That's all I, but that's all inside self-aware for me is know your personality, working genius, recognize how you refuel and then pay attention to where the seasons hit. And we didn't hit it, but where do you come alive and be aware of those times and make sure you're capitalizing on those times in what you come alive with.

Nick Clason (24:08.282)
You gotta know. Yep.

Nick Clason (24:16.262)
Mm.

Nick Clason (24:21.348)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, okay, so all self-awareness, like the piece of like burning out into your point, like as people in ministry and maybe even families, like you have a lot of responsibility. And so it almost sometimes feels like even selfish to consider who am I, understanding yourself, where do I come alive, and what do, like this question, what do I need, right? And so part of that burnout piece is like being bold enough

to declare what you really need in order to stay healthy. And so, all that being said, that's step one. What's step two?

Derry (24:53.422)
Mm-hmm. You're still the right...

Derry (24:59.118)
Yeah, yeah. in that, and then I'll go right into step two out of that. Give yourself permission to speak up for yourself with this mantra in your head. A burnout me is not a successful me. And so you go, man, I can't do that. And grit, yeah, dang it, grit yourself through. There's some of us that are being lazy. We're giving this as excuses. We're saying, need more time off. And it's on us. But also recognize, there's a legit.

Nick Clason (25:11.951)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (25:19.184)
For sure.

Nick Clason (25:22.886)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (25:27.15)
breaking point at times that can happen in some of the stuff. so advocating to say like, hey, I need to schedule a little lighter during this time. I need to... Okay. So with that, that leads great into the next part is recognizing that balance is something you find over time, not in the moment. Yeah. know, balance gets used a lot. am I in balance? And yeah, work-life balance.

Nick Clason (25:34.586)
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that, which is so good.

Nick Clason (25:45.84)
Hmm. Flush that out.

Work-life balance.

Derry (25:55.086)
You know is just like I got it I can't I feel so out of balance and I was feeling that for so long and I remember I was sitting with a in a network valuable that also helps you avoid burnout I was sitting in a network and a guy that been a little longer the topic is balance He goes I've just learned balance is a pipe dream. It's a pipe dream I'm never gonna get it and I was like Balaan. That's ridiculous now. He unfortunately didn't Yeah, he didn't He didn't really flesh it out over time. I'm like

Nick Clason (26:13.478)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (26:17.798)
You're like watch this I'm gonna get balance

Derry (26:25.314)
But I started thinking through it and I was talking to with my mentor and he said, I agree with him if you're looking at it on a day by day basis. The real question is how do I find balance over time? We're gonna probably, like today, my day will be out of balance when it comes to time with my kids because they're at school and it's church tonight and we all head off to our different spaces. But Saturday,

Nick Clason (26:46.886)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (26:50.54)
areas,

Derry (26:54.112)
As it sits right now, my daughter has a musical that I'm gonna go, she's three days with a musical for a middle school musical. We've learned. Whole family's going Friday. I'm going Saturday. Wife's going Sunday. Now people that might wanna get mad at me, she's like prop crew. I'm only gonna see her foot once. So Saturday is a ton of family time. But I'm not gonna work at all. That's out of balance, right? My work home life in Saturday.

Nick Clason (27:13.626)
Yeah

Nick Clason (27:20.304)
Yeah.

Derry (27:22.316)
So the whole idea is what does it look like over time? And two tools that I would just say I've learned. One was I taught it to myself. The other was a really brilliant man with wonderful calves named Josh Griffin. I was talking to him right at the time he was finishing up at, what's that one? Saddleback, yeah. I don't know if you ever heard of it. Small church out in California.

Nick Clason (27:40.537)
Ever heard of it? Yeah.

Derry (27:43.88)
And he was also starting up DYM, student leadership conference was running like crazy. He was traveling around and doing stuff. And he had like four kids all in like, I got to be on. And I just said, dude, how do you do it? You know, like how in the world do you work this whole balance of stuff? And he goes, no, not great. And then he said, but what I've learned to do is I'm constantly grading myself in those categories. I'm just constantly giving myself a grade. I stop, I pause, I reflect, you know, so saddle back.

Nick Clason (27:54.224)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (28:06.374)
Hmm.

Derry (28:13.774)
How am I right now? know what? Camp just finished up A minus. Like I've given them my best and I feel like I'm crushing it there. How am I doing on the DYM world? You know what? It's a B minus, but the reality is we're in summer and a lot of stuff can go on autopilot there. So that's totally fine. How am I on my own soul? Man, I'm really good. I'm gonna live. I'm gonna give that an A because I got great times with Jesus at camp.

Nick Clason (28:17.67)
Mm.

Nick Clason (28:32.869)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (28:43.726)
He didn't tell me this. I'm making this up, but this would be like I could see this be like he didn't tell me these grades, but but then he said, you know, but man, my wife and my kids, I'm going to see minus. And so that's now time where I need to shift over there. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And he said, and that's that's the recognition. And I recognize, you know what? I can go ahead and let Saddleback get down to a BB minus right now. I can I can continue to. Yeah, right.

Nick Clason (28:49.114)
Bye bye.

Nick Clason (28:54.982)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (28:58.914)
There's self-awareness, right? Like that goes back to that first step there.

Nick Clason (29:10.758)
Yeah, my job's safe. Not getting fired.

Derry (29:13.74)
Yeah, and let me tell you that like youth pastor, not every not every program has to be an A. There are times where it's OK for it to be a C. I know that's hard and you might have your bosses tell you otherwise. Well, I'm telling you it's OK. It's going to happen.

Nick Clason (29:26.852)
Yeah, we talk about all the time the principle of good enough. it's like, we've been having this conversation with some of our residents and say, hey, listen, I appreciate how much time you're pouring into message prep, but it's taking away from the other things that we need you to do and that you're really also very good at as well. so like make this message be, or for the love of all that is good, just use co-leader, which is already like better than anything you and I are gonna come up with.

Derry (29:43.97)
Yep. Yep.

Derry (29:51.362)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Nick Clason (29:54.062)
Just use it, because sadly the kids aren't gonna remember it. so fudge so that you can give yourself other places. I love that principle, because you gotta find that, like you said, you gotta find that balance over time. You gotta.

Derry (30:03.363)
Yeah, yeah.

Derry (30:08.846)
Yeah, yeah. So it's yeah, as you're grading, sometimes it's, oh, this grades low and I got to get it back up. Other times it's this grades low and that's really OK. Like we have misapplied. I don't get it wrong, but that Colossians passage about whatever you do, do it all for the glory of the Lord, that that that doing it for the glory of Lord equals one hundred and fifty percent. And I absolutely would say, no, that's actually not to the glory of the Lord. You're burning yourself out. And if I give one hundred and fifty percent to make an announcement video where I spend 30 hours turning it into like, you know,

Nick Clason (30:13.144)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (30:38.67)
MCU movie trailer quality. I was actually wasn't to the glory of the Lord. That was actually to the glory of me or to the glory. And it was a loss that I could have been spending that time with students listening to their struggles and praying and you know, so I think that's really important in it. So there's that grading thing. This is the other one. This one has been huge for me. I we joked about it. I do have a podcast that set dormant forever. And I did a whole episode on this principle. And it's the idea of

Nick Clason (30:43.609)
Hmm.

Interesting.

Nick Clason (30:53.808)
Mm.

Nick Clason (31:07.654)
Yeah, we'll link it. We'll link it. What's it? 2018 when it aired? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Derry (31:10.874)
It. 2018, 2019, but it is one of my favorite episodes I've ever done, to be really honest, because it just walks through this idea is simply walk, sprint, rest, understanding that that I need to have seasons of all three of those in my own life. And also in my actual ministry flow. And what do I mean by that? I think most of us live with the idea of it's sprint rest more times than not, or if we're lazy.

Nick Clason (31:20.422)
Mm.

Nick Clason (31:25.702)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (31:37.499)
Hmm.

Derry (31:38.978)
We do walk and then rest. But what do I mean by sprint? Sprint is when it's all hands on deck. I'm not gonna fit inside of the 36, 50 hours or whatever that are expected of me. It's gonna be more than that. And it's worth it. Summer camp for me, I recognize that was the time where I got the full group together. We would build vision and we'd do a mission strip before that and something after it. That was a sprint time. Like right around October in our ministry, was outreach season.

Nick Clason (31:42.278)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (31:50.95)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (32:08.203)
be able to just have our kids grab ahold of evangelism. And so it was worthy of the extra time. And so that was like that sprint and it needed my best efforts and the ministry needed my best efforts. But then there's also times like where it stop and ask, wait, do we just need to walk right now? And this is almost going back to this is okay if we're at B level or C level here. And in my ministry, December was that time. We would shut down, we would like,

Nick Clason (32:33.701)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (32:37.006)
December leading into Christmas. We would shut down the ministry pretty much at Christmas, so that was even rest. You the only thing I had to do was show up to Christmas Eve. But in December, we recognized like, man, if we just hand things over to small groups, that we're gonna crush it, and that takes less planning for us. Like all we have to do is just make sure we've set up small groups well. And so, and we didn't add, like I remember we were wanting to add a fall retreat, and we couldn't find a November, we started to move it to December, and I was like, no, nope, no, that, we were gonna walk in December. We're not gonna throw one more thing in.

Nick Clason (32:38.406)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (33:06.19)
And then, and what's crazy, now recognize this, that is a walk season for me. And then my worship pastor, total sprint season, right? But June and summer camps, almost like a rest season for him, right? So, so it's, it's, it's different. So being aware of that, looking at your calendar and even like marking it out and just knowing like, Hey, if there's a sprint season, sometimes it might be, it might be two weeks. It might be six to eight weeks. Now, if they're all like six to eight weeks and you don't see it.

Nick Clason (33:13.902)
Exactly, yeah.

Nick Clason (33:19.206)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (33:30.363)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (33:34.19)
But this is the idea, like, I think we get into this idea, sprint, rest, sprint, rest, sprint, rest. I don't think we're resting. We're sprinting and then we're crashing. Rest actually involves rejuvenating. And then if we're sprinting and then we say we're resting, but all we're doing is walking, we're not taking any time off, then we're in trouble. So finding those things where those come into play and remembering the seasons. So if it's a season where it gets really, really rough, I might personally...

need to get the ministry at a walk pace so I can hand it over and I can truly rest and go take a vacation. Honestly, sometimes during a sprint season in the ministry, if you get there long enough, you might actually be able to, again, rest some. I got to the point where I planned some of my vacations over that October time because I had residents that would run without reach, they got the vision, and we'd get away. And it was really, really good for me. again, that grading system and that walk sprint rest system were huge and have been huge for me in helping learn.

Nick Clason (34:06.714)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (34:20.272)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (34:32.152)
to avoid burnout.

Nick Clason (34:34.256)
So then that's, so step one, be self-aware. Step two, aim for balance over time using those two things, walk, sprint, rest, and the grading system. So then your third one, how do you do, how do you manage and avoid burnout? What's this last piece here?

Derry (34:51.406)
Yeah, Yeah, and this is where the rest part is key is finding my true unplug. That's the way the principle is the idea of find my true unplug. Rest is unplugging, especially, let's just look at it from ministry, unplugging from the church and the ministry so that I can truly rest or in that rest invest into my soul, my family. And two things for me that are big, and I'll be honest, the one,

I'm learning more now over the last couple years that I didn't do well in my ministry life. And that Sabbath, understanding the principle of Sabbath, if you've not read or listened to anything from John Mark Comer on just the idea of the ruthless elimination of hurry and the difference between a day off and Sabbath, there's some great principles in there to hit and what it means to truly just stop, to stop and find joy in the day.

Nick Clason (35:36.507)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (35:49.986)
been rediscovering that dude and it's wild and that's a lot more for me that I need that. With the recognition of my family. But the one that has people would ask me all the time. How'd you last 23 years at one church? And I'd say all the time. This is not the reason, but it's the number one thing that I think gets missed so often. And it was huge for us as vacationing. We are in a small town at a very large church that

Nick Clason (36:14.694)
Hmm.

Derry (36:18.498)
that just goes, I loved and still love youth mystery. And so I can't stop thinking about it. It's on my mind all the time everywhere I'm going. And so the ability to truly unplug from the church, I needed to get away. And so my wife and I learned, yeah.

Nick Clason (36:24.762)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (36:31.728)
Mm-hmm. Because you can't just do it in town because it's the church is such a big component of that area. Yeah.

Derry (36:38.53)
Yeah. Yeah, we would literally have to go on dates if we wanted to like get away. We would go like two towns over just so we wouldn't run into people. And and and so the idea of a prolonged time to truly get a week to go on vacation. I some people do staycations didn't work for us because my mind was too on. so getting and traveling somewhere and we got pretty pretty dedicated and it was huge. It became significant before kids. We went six years without kids and we had

Nick Clason (36:44.292)
Yeah. Yeah.

Derry (37:08.974)
two significant vacations a year most of the time. And some people would go like, can't afford it. Well, we found ways to do one.

Nick Clason (37:17.296)
That's, I was gonna ask that, like, youth pastors notoriously, I can't do it, I don't have money, like, how do you do it?

Derry (37:22.668)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll say there's two things. One would be you find creative ways, you know, my parents, I'm fortunate my parents had a cabin up in Michigan that we would go to and that was a much cheaper vacation. But Dave Ramsey would get mad at me for this. But I say, I think you got more money than you realize. It's just where you spend money. And so we committed to run our cars into the ground and not like do a new

Nick Clason (37:38.438)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (37:50.949)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (37:52.59)
new lease. We dropped a lot of subscriptions other people would have because we said, man, this is where the money goes. But this is my Dave Ramseyism. would I so believe in this. would have even risked debt in that area to go on a vacation because I don't think this money we're spending on vacations is spending, it's investing. And so Disney, like you and I have talked about, Disney became our thing. Well, there's not a way to do Disney cheap. There's a way to do

Nick Clason (37:56.486)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (38:06.288)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (38:12.215)
Yeah, that's good.

Derry (38:20.728)
There's a way to save money on Disney if you learn how to do it. And so we did, we found ways to do that. And but what we did with that, was a couple key things we learned over time. One was Janelle would say it all the time. First, that's my wife, by the way. She would first say it was just the two of us. It's like, that's the one time where I have you. Like I have you. Like you're totally there and present with us. And it's not like she was saying you're a terrible husband who never does, but.

Nick Clason (38:22.048)
Do it cheaper. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (38:39.174)
Hmm.

Derry (38:47.906)
But I know you love the ministry and I love the ministry too. She worked at the church as well most of time. so that was so significant. But also man, memories that have been built. With my kids, we sit around the table lot of times and we just do a, hey, share a favorite family memory. Do you know how many of them are tied around that one time at Disney when my youngest who had always walked into the house after swimming in our backyard and just pull his shorts down? like, know, so we were like.

Nick Clason (38:54.928)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (39:02.372)
Mm.

Derry (39:15.842)
done in the way pool, gonna go grab lunch. And we just look over and he's like walking naked in the middle of a water park at Disney because, know, we're like all laughing and remember like you just the memories, the piece of that so key. But this is the other part and a key rule we did. We set a 30 minute, 30 mile rule where because we were both working in the church, it was like, once we get to a certain point, we don't talk church at all. And we kind of got really belligerent with it where it was like, we aren't even gonna talk about.

Nick Clason (39:23.565)
Thank

Nick Clason (39:32.144)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (39:42.374)
Hmm.

Derry (39:44.268)
our friends who go to the church. Because we were just so enveloped in it. was like just such a part of like we both worked there. We loved it, but also it drove us nuts at times. so.

Nick Clason (39:45.892)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (39:51.312)
Yeah. Yeah.

That, I've tried that too, like I tried implementing that and it's hard, bro. Like it's really difficult to do and I actually like failed a lot at it.

Derry (40:00.212)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we've been able to hold. She's great at holding me accountable to it in a loving way. But also there were moments I needed it. And so so we would we would stick to it. We didn't like, you know, when we fail, we'd go, OK, tomorrow we pick back up again. But what that did would often lead to some really awkward. don't know what to talk about time. And then on the other end, it would lead to I wouldn't call it like.

Nick Clason (40:13.381)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (40:25.51)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (40:29.858)
deep, rich, like all of sudden, you know, we're burying our souls to the, you know, the Lord's speaking new vision to us. Sometimes it was, but sometimes it was just, we just got to like talk about random things from our childhood that we never knew before, because we needed to find a topic to talk about. We just like watched some really, really stupid videos together because we weren't sure what to do and laughed a ton. And so things like...

Nick Clason (40:46.394)
Hmm. Yeah.

Derry (40:56.854)
just other topics and other things and zeroing in, been enormous for us.

Nick Clason (41:00.164)
That's so good. Yeah. think, I think, like listen, if you're watching, listening, maybe for some of you, like this is your next step, like plan a vacation, right? I know you might not feel like you have money, the means, whatever, but like you have vacation time. And one of the things you said on a podcast years ago that resonated deeply with me is don't leave any vacation days on the table.

Derry (41:16.386)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (41:21.485)
Yeah.

Derry (41:26.146)
I'm so glad you just said that. Yeah. Explain it. Explain it.

Nick Clason (41:27.524)
Yeah, because like here's the thing. What I now tell people is like, you're if you get two weeks of vacation, you are being hired like in America, we stink at this, first of all, but like you're being hired to work 50 weeks out of 52 weeks. So if you work 51 weeks because you only take one week off, you gave your church a free week of your work and that's not fair to you. And they're taking advantage of it. And nobody is going to say anything. Like if you have a great manager who's

Derry (41:40.888)
Yes.

Derry (41:47.96)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (41:56.326)
pushing you to do that, that's fantastic, but that's typically the exception, not the rule. And so if you get 50, if you get two weeks of vacation, you better only work 50 of them. And even if like you, even if you said, do a staycation, don't go anywhere, but like don't go to the office. it's, the job will get done without you because the other thing that I hate to break it to you is one day you're gonna leave cause you're gonna resign, you're gonna retire, you're gonna die and they will figure out.

what to do with that position. But you will never be able to be the husband to your wife or the wife to your husband or the father to your children or any of those other relationships like you uniquely can only invest in those places. And so don't leave days on table.

Derry (42:39.278)
Yeah, yep. thank you. Like you're right on, that's so key. It's, you know, like I would just love people to reflect. Are you at a church where when you do your all staff and you come together and you go through and you just celebrate everybody that worked extra hard, right? And everybody cheers. Why doesn't the church ever go, hey, it's the end of the year. We just want to celebrate the following people that used up every one of their vacation days. You know, they're not going to do that, but actually they'd be smart.

Nick Clason (42:56.249)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (43:04.548)
Yeah. No.

Derry (43:08.312)
What you're saying is true, but the reverse is true as well. If I haven't taken that time to unplug that 51st week and probably the 49th, 48th and 47th aren't even going to be the best versions of me, right? Like you're, you're, you're actually making it suffer because there's, we could go forever in this. When you're away, you have to delegate. So you now are living out the Ephesians four principle that you got to equip people for ministry. And then also you're reminded, I love this place, but they don't need me. Everything. Nothing fell apart.

Nick Clason (43:17.238)
Mm. Yeah, they suffer a little bit, but...

Nick Clason (43:27.194)
Mm-hmm.

That's it. Yeah.

Nick Clason (43:35.76)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (43:37.154)
And so now you get to do it out of joy, not out of obligation. And then here's, let me give one more on top of this. This is what people are doing that are listening to this right now. I've really sucked at this. I really need to do it. And then if their vacation recycles in December or mine always recycled in June, they're like, I'm to do that. But then there's a real problem you've got probably where you're, moving toward burnout. If you find yourself every year when it's about time to recycle that you have to all of sudden cash in all your vacation days or you lose them.

Nick Clason (43:39.662)
Absolutely.

Nick Clason (44:04.432)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (44:04.834)
And so you're saying, no, I take all my days off. But what you do is not spread them out. Well, go back to the walk, sprint and rest. Look at that plan ahead, block out where the times are, find what works for you and recognize that I got so sick in the team. I was leading that I, I put my money where my mouth is on this, where I would say, how many vacation days are you at? And like, I'd celebrate it, but it also they are vacation time would recycle in June. And we had till August to use it.

Nick Clason (44:09.03)
Mm.

Yup.

Derry (44:33.56)
Well, that was all our summer camp season that went right into the fall break. And I would have like people gone in between camp and fall. And I was like, listen, I believe in this so much, we're gonna figure it out. But next year, please think through, you know, cause this isn't good for you. So there's like, I would just say that's really, really important to think through with it all. And again, find your true unplug. Nick and I love Disney.

Nick Clason (44:36.09)
Yeah, can't, you can't. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (44:44.794)
Yeah, do something in March, bro. Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (45:00.358)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (45:01.016)
That might be the worst place for you to go do an unplug. And quite honestly, I'm not doing it much now because my oldest son, he's too cool for it. We've made the shift over to national parks because our kids can walk. And my word, man, like I'm exhausted, but God is alive in the beauty of it. So find your unplug.

Nick Clason (45:14.896)
But it's good, yeah.

Well, and I would say for us, the reason we like it is because it keeps us so busy, we don't really have time to sit around and talk about work. You know what mean? That's one of the reasons that we like Disney so much is like you said, it's just our family, it's just us trying to accomplish the thing and with all, trying to get the schedules and everything locked in.

Derry (45:26.21)
Yep. Right.

Derry (45:36.664)
Yeah, your boys are at a spot where like they you get to see there's nothing quite like seeing your kids overwhelmed with a joy. Yeah, like man, I'm getting flooded with even great memories right now of some times with that. Yeah, man. I love it.

Nick Clason (45:42.798)
See Mickey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so true. Yeah, yeah. Man, Derry, you crushed it. Thank you. People wanna do some of the stuff you got offering, like plug it up, plug it up here real quick before we wrap up.

Derry (45:53.57)
Thank you, man.

Derry (45:59.992)
Yeah, yeah, still working on the best way. don't, you know, I'm not, I don't have a great corporate master plan in this all, but I would say the first thing to check out from a website is YML cohort.com. That's Y is in yodel, is in marry, L is in ladle. I don't know. cohort. Yeah. Youthministereleadercohort.com. That's something we're doing that Nick talked about. and we, we run them in winter, spring, and in the fall and they're 10 weeks long.

Nick Clason (46:15.993)
or youth ministry leader.

Derry (46:28.97)
I'm toying around with maybe a summer one. I don't know. But check that out. But even if it's like in the middle where there's not one, there's an interest form you can fill out there. Always reach out to me anywhere on social. Like I offered that working genius thing. It's just at Dairy Prinkert. So D-E-R-R-Y P-R-E-N K-E-R-T. Find me. I'm not on TikTok.

Nick Clason (46:51.77)
That's okay, people aren't finding people on TikTok anyway. They're just watching funny videos, yeah.

Derry (46:53.612)
Yeah, it's hard to find. I'm on Instagram and I'm on Facebook the most and so find me there. And if you don't like anything, go post it over on X and I won't read it.

Nick Clason (47:06.544)
There you go. Love it, man. Hey, thank you so much for investing in youth leaders in this way and how you avoid burnout. Absolutely. Thanks, dude. All right. Hey guys, until next time, we'll see you. Bye.

Derry (47:09.602)
Thank you, dude. Thank you, Nick. Thanks for your investment, man. I love what you're doing.

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04:37 Principle #1 - Self Awareness
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19:47 Be Aware of Seasons
25:03 Balance over Time - Grading Principle
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TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:01.178)
Well, what's up everyone? Here I am with my friend Derry, who we're just, what were we doing? Like last week we were like counting it out. We've known each other now like nine years, I think it is, which is, that's actually like a weird number to say. That makes me feel old. And I don't think of myself as old, but I think I am now. So Derry, how you doing this morning, bro?

Derry (00:23.319)
I'm good. You're not old. You're like my youngest brother old does that make sense? I can't be I could be your uncle, but ultimately

Nick Clason (00:27.654)
Sure, I'll take it. Yeah, so give us like a 30 second flyover, like who are you, in, know, what qualifies you to talk about this topic today of burnout?

Derry (00:43.758)
I am a youth pastor at heart that served in traditional youth ministry in a youth pastor role for 26 years, 23 of those at one church, three at another. And now I work with ministry leaders as a whole, but really it's all next gen people is where my heart is. And that's what I do through an organization called Standing Stone Ministry and run that in a lot of different formats. And it's all free, confidential, all about coaching, consultation and care.

And why I can talk about this is because I've had incredible victories in it and deep, massive failures when it comes to, I think, avoiding burnout in a lot of places, but also coming face to face with burnout, because it sneaks up on us. And so I can speak from both the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, which is an old ABC-wide world of sports thing. If you've never seen it, watch the YouTube clip. It's amazing.

Nick Clason (01:37.946)
Well, I'll listen, I'll just say, for those of you who are like, you know, later on in maybe your youth ministry career and you're trying to create like coaching and cohorts, like Derry is the guy that is throwing a wrench into all of your plans because, I'll just plug like the youth ministry leader cohort, which is incredible value, which people would pay typically thousands of dollars to be a part of your offering now for somehow free. And I don't know how you're doing it.

but I've been a part of it, I've helped facilitate one. I mean, it's awesome. So there's your plug and that's at least a step in this whole burnout deal. So.

Derry (02:10.958)
Yeah. Thanks, man.

Absolutely, it's huge. how we do it, you just said part of it, because there's some amazing people that do it where by payment is friendship. And then there's a group of people and organizations that believe in this stuff. They love the church and they love the next generation, and they are footing the bill for us to do this. And I hope that alone brings hope to this youth ministry world. Like we just sometimes feel like, you know, everybody's against us. And it is, there's parts that are lot against us. There are people that are

Nick Clason (02:23.982)
Hahaha

Nick Clason (02:29.988)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (02:35.27)
Which is really cool.

Derry (02:45.95)
So no, they just so know the value. They're either paying it forward from their youth ministry experience, they just recognize that the church and the hope of the church is found in this next generation, and so why not invest in the people investing in them? so, yeah, that's how we do it, but also it's just a reminder to anybody listening to this. Because if you're watching this and you're thinking you're burnt out, part of it is I just, don't make a difference and nobody sees what I'm doing. No, that's seen.

Nick Clason (02:48.998)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (02:59.302)
Yeah, it's good.

Nick Clason (03:07.056)
Hmm, that's good. Well, so Derry has like kind of like a three step sort of framework or little outline, I guess, of what we're gonna kind of walk through today. So what, Derry, take us through like step number one of this whole burnout conversation, where does someone start?

Derry (03:24.942)
Yeah, yeah, think, you know, it's so hard because burnout comes in so many forms. I mean, there's I'm just way overworked burnout. There's I'm not fulfilled burnout. There's relational burnout, which I don't think I'm to be able to hit that one a lot, but that's big, you know, and that's that's a little bit different. And then there's just like I'm in the wrong kind of work burnout, you know. So so it goes all these different ways. So ultimately, I was just thinking like you said, how do I? And I would say here's how I either have burnout.

or in the midst of burnout, caught it and recognize and put in practices, not so much to get out of it to avoid it the next time. Because I have burnout multiple times, you know? And so people are like, yeah, you lasted 23 years. OK, so three things. they're not like steps, but just like I guess I'd go principles and then some ways I do it. The first, I think, a key to avoiding burnout is self-awareness. I mean, it's just a simple thing. It's self-awareness because we're all wired in different ways.

Nick Clason (04:02.021)
you

Nick Clason (04:10.576)
Okay.

Nick Clason (04:16.39)
Hmm.

Derry (04:21.326)
that we will find our fuel, we'll find our exhaustion, we'll find ourselves caught up in our head and we'll refuel in different ways. And so that's a big one and I'll give you three pieces inside of self-awareness and you can stop me and ask me along in this. I would say the first one that I would throw out is your personality and your working genius is what I throw out. There's profiles out there that help you just learn.

what, like who you are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, they're, they're profiles, right? They're not, they're not like, I got really tired of the Enneagram when it hit because I, I was into the disc profile. Others are Myers and Briggs, Myers Briggs. And I got annoyed with the Enneagram because people were like, this is the answer to everything. I never forget. sat in this like a millennial group and a person said, Enneagram is like a color wheel. And I was like, you just basically said this thing.

Nick Clason (04:52.592)
Like who you are, how you work, how you recharge, all that, yeah.

Nick Clason (05:02.726)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (05:15.206)
Ha

Derry (05:20.856)
can say whatever you want. Like there is a reality of that, but no, like there is absolutely wiring inside of it. So I don't care what it is, if you take it and it resonates with you, pause and say, okay, if I am a personality that comes alive when I'm helping people versus I'm a personality and it's behind the scenes and I don't want credit versus I do want to be out front. Well, then when you're aware in that and you're catching that, you recognize.

Nick Clason (05:22.435)
You

Nick Clason (05:39.942)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (05:48.854)
man, I gotta find myself over toward the work that's gonna bring life to me. And if I'm living too much over, and those profiles help you a lot with that.

Nick Clason (05:55.43)
Well, and then conversely, right? Like how you rest too, right? In that, so even like, like I'm a task type person. Like I'm an Enneagram one, my wife is an Enneagram two, so she likes to help people. So like she recharges a lot through like relationships where like I not quite as much. And so even within our own like marriage and relationship, understanding like a thing that might bring her life might drain me, you know? And so we kind of need to know even how to strike the balance like within that too.

Derry (05:58.772)
Exactly right.

Mm-hmm.

Derry (06:23.822)
Yeah, and Nick, for those that are married, personality stuff and I'll talk about the working genius in a second, awesome to do with your spouse because let's be honest, when they're out of whack, if our spouse is not in a good space and they're burning out, it burns us out too. And it's not their fault. It's actually maybe we gotta take the responsibility to go, am I aware enough?

Nick Clason (06:29.902)
Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (06:41.826)
Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah.

Derry (06:47.586)
I'm telling you, man, I've dove into the working genius side a whole lot more. We're getting ready to learn more on some personality profile stuff, my wife and I to help people. But it makes sense, right? Like the love language talk, you're going to tend to express love in the way you want it. But if that's not somebody's love language, they might not receive it to the level you think they can. so so so that it is just big. So personality profiles really good. If you aren't aware of this thing called working genius, it's a lot like if you've ever heard of strength Clifton strength finder. It's a similar thing, but it's a work.

productivity tool. wish it was called like working energizing or working joys because genius can throw you off. The idea is there's these six different parts to work and all of us come alive in two parts to it. It might not be step one. It might be or step one and step two. It might be step one and step five. So it mixes all around, but we come alive into, we can get by into and we die into meaning

Nick Clason (07:18.8)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (07:29.082)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (07:37.914)
Mm.

Nick Clason (07:45.636)
Yeah.

Derry (07:46.146)
There's two of them that like when we're in it, we're like, we're Captain America. I could do it all day. So like work, if you're a creative person that then loves to track down the creatives, your invention to nasty. I don't know anybody like that. Yeah.

Nick Clason (07:50.288)
You

Nick Clason (07:55.738)
Give us yours, like what are you, like what, talk about a project that you're Captain America in, like you could do all day, and then talk about a type of project that like you can't, you don't wanna do, or you wanna hand off, or you just wanna like, you know, be done, cause it's the worst.

Derry (08:01.026)
Yeah. Yep.

Derry (08:06.658)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me help you with it even. Because I think there's that way to do it. There's also just the, it's every work involves all six of these steps. And so it's also an awareness of if I have to do this from beginning and end, when I'm aware of that, I can do that. But also you're usually working in a team. So there's wonder, which is you love pondering the possibilities. There's invention where you're the, me a blank whiteboard and I come up with ideas. There's discernment where I'm processing through.

Nick Clason (08:15.696)
Yeah.

Derry (08:34.926)
what ideas have merit, where there's themes, and just kind of catching what goes on. There's galvanizing, where it's like the cheer everybody, bring everybody together and go, let's go for this. It's the rally cry person. A lot of youth pastors are galvanizing geniuses, because they love to rally the group together. It's that, like the greatest accomplishment is we're all excited, don't know what we're doing, but we're all, no. No, but that's galvanizing. Then there's enablement, not the best name for it, but that's where you want to come alongside.

Nick Clason (08:50.923)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (09:03.926)
and help whatever the vision is happen. Also, youth pastors are enablement geniuses, especially if they last a while, because you're often having to fulfill the mission of the greater church and then come alongside. you're the moment when they go, we're looking for volunteers to help with. you might not, you just go, would love to, yes, thank you, let me do this. And then there's tenacity. And that's like the hit the deadline, nail the detail stuff, right? So my genius is invention and discernment.

Nick Clason (09:08.251)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:13.638)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:20.132)
Yeah, let's the youth pastor. Yeah.

Nick Clason (09:28.87)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (09:33.154)
give me a blank whiteboard or a brainstorm session and I come alive. Because not only like you present and the second, they call it the genius, competency and your frustration. So my genius is invention and discernment. They are back to back. My competency is wonder. So I don't mind pondering the questions and galvanizing is my other competency. So I can rally the team together. But I'm at my greatest on service, like semester planning.

Nick Clason (09:45.168)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (09:53.062)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (10:02.85)
When we would do that in my team, it was the greatest day in the world because that was our time where we were going to brainstorm. We were going to identify possibilities of what we could do. We were going to try to see how the Holy Spirit would bring together all these ideas we put up on the whiteboard and find the themes and go, there's a series. Here's the scripture we're going to come out of, or here's the scripture we're going to start with. But here's how we can flesh this out for students. Here's this new idea we have on something. I mean, like you can see me like talking about, right? And then.

Nick Clason (10:28.996)
Yeah, but as someone that is like tenacity, like a whiteboard meeting's great, but I feel like I'm losing a day's worth of work.

Derry (10:36.052)
Exactly right, right? So that's the key in this thing is because there's that part for you where your genius is dying when you're in that one spot because you want to get to it. But then there's also your frustration that when you get into that portion. So my assistant for years, best assistant in the world because she was amazing and she wasn't an assistant. She was like a co-pastor. She just loved the behind the scenes and getting things done.

Nick Clason (10:41.83)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (10:59.974)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (11:03.138)
Okay, I wish we had a map, but wonder, invention, discernment, galvanizing. Remember, that's all the beginning of the work. And I am either good to go or fully alive in that. And then my frustration is actually the enablement piece of being delegated out to me, especially if it's not my idea. kind of like, gosh, don't call on me to do it. It sounds so selfish, but I get it, I'll do it, but it kills me. And then finish the project. So my big joke I tell people all the time is I'm amazing at starting things.

Nick Clason (11:09.296)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (11:23.078)
No, I get it.

Derry (11:32.846)
period.

Nick Clason (11:33.476)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (11:35.278)
Um, but she was enabled into nasty genius. So she's dying in these brainstorm meetings. I'm frustrated in part because like, why aren't you excited about this? And she's like, just tell me what to do and I'll do it. And then, and then she's coming back to me and going, give me the details. like, I just gave you the big vision. I, know, I don't want to get in your way. Well, that's because I don't want people to get in my way, but we, we also found ways to work together. So that's team side. Personally, here's why this is so important in burnout. They've done a ton of study on the thing, like 2 million assessments and

Nick Clason (11:39.366)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (11:45.83)
Mm.

Nick Clason (12:03.334)
Hmm.

Derry (12:04.738)
Remember, there's three areas. There's the place you're a genius where you come alive fully. There's then your frustration, the one where it's like, just get me out of here. Then there's like, yeah. Then there's your competency, where you're actually good at it. People affirm you, you know you're good at it. But the trick is over time, it loses its fulfillment. That's where people burn out. Because if you're not aware of that's like my competency space, and I'm hitting resistance again and again on that, or

Nick Clason (12:11.802)
Yeah, you know you hate it, don't wanna do it, yeah.

Nick Clason (12:18.438)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (12:23.108)
Hmm. Hmm.

Derry (12:33.518)
I'm living all my tasks. For me, I was in a place where I needed to galvanize in the midst of COVID, a team that wasn't all together on stuff and didn't have a ton of trust in me yet. And I burn out. I burn out inside. I was at a church for three years. Remember, I was at the other one for 23 years. And this is not the fault of anyone. In fact, I think the Lord led me toward it, but a piece that happened that if I could go back over again, I would go.

Nick Clason (12:45.466)
Yeah, you were pretty new at your role. Yeah.

Nick Clason (12:51.429)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (12:59.938)
Who's the galvanizer on my team that I'm gonna go to and say, I need you when it comes time to bring us all together. I wanna work on our relationship so you can trust me, I can trust you, and I need you to step up and galvanize and help me out. So the awareness in that is huge. And I know we dove into that a little bit more. Anybody wants to know more about that, I actually am. I got a certification and facilitation for that. I will be happy to like, you the first five people that.

reach out to me that watch this. I'll do a free assessment and a free debrief for you because there's something to be learned in this. Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:34.33)
That's huge value too, so yeah. We'll link stuff down below in the show notes. can reach out to Dairy for sure. So let's talk about how you then, how do you refuel? How do you refuel in your self-awareness piece of this?

Derry (13:39.352)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So.

Derry (13:46.636)
Yeah. Yeah, this is really good. Yep, yeah, and I think the biggest one, and this is just simply being aware, are you an introvert and an extrovert or an ambervert? You know, and I don't even know if that's scientific. I haven't done a lot of study on it. It's just the ultimate question is what really refuels you when you need to unplug, which we'll talk about un plugging a little bit, but in the moments of unplug, when work needs just be shut off, what is it that actually refuels you? Not what

Nick Clason (13:57.52)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (14:04.805)
Yeah, yeah.

Derry (14:16.46)
What do you, what you do to cope or just zone out? You know, cause people are like, yeah, doom scrolling video games, you know, for some people, man, it is, I just sitting by myself or I, our buddy, Josh Griffin, he is an extrovert off the charts. People refuel him. And I remember he loved online gaming. So video games, it wasn't about the video games that refueled him. was plenty, but he loved video games too, but he was playing with others.

Nick Clason (14:21.712)
Doom scroll and eat pie.

Derry (14:44.59)
I don't even know. I'm saying video games that shows how lame I am in that world. I am a creative in nature. love I love like try and I love like seeing creative and trying to pull themes from it. So movies are a great thing, but I'm also I I love people, but I actually refuel when I'm on my own. And so for me, a long there's a long season, the dumbest thing that I think this would help people. So if that's the reality, I kind of refuel on my own, creative things.

Nick Clason (14:47.366)
You

Nick Clason (15:04.806)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (15:14.168)
I'll give you two moments where I'm most greatly refilled that you go, that's stupid. Why would you do that? One was I would weekly on Thursdays pick a movie that had been out for about two or three weeks and go to a local movie theater that I knew it had like daytime matinee times. And this was before kids. And I would try to go to the movie. And my greatest accomplishment was when I got to sit in the movie theater all by myself and watch that movie. Like that was my goal. Yeah.

Nick Clason (15:29.412)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (15:38.71)
You create like a little bingo card of it. Like, you know, how many times do I get to go to this movie by myself?

Derry (15:43.884)
Right? Yeah. And it was weird. It was like this one. was just really cool when I said when I would get to that point, because I was just sitting there. It was also a little sense of accomplishment with it. What was really awkward is a lot of old ladies like to go watch movies at that time, too. So it often end up with me and two old ladies in the same studio. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And a lot of old ladies really like action movies. That's another thing. So but that was just that to me, like

Nick Clason (16:00.634)
Which who knew, right? But now you do because that was your goal.

Nick Clason (16:06.886)
You

Derry (16:12.334)
A joke. mean, my wife would laugh at me. People would go, you don't do them movies by yourself. I'm like, I do. You know, I could watch them at my house and do the same. But there was something about that. The other one was for my 40th birthday, you and I both are Disney lovers. And I think I helped you fall in love with Disney. I apologize to your bank account for that. But for my 40th birthday, we spent a lot of time going to Disney World. I was going out to California to a DYM event. And Janelle said, hey, for your birthday, if you're interested, treat yourself to a couple of days at Disneyland.

Nick Clason (16:24.858)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (16:29.346)
Yeah, I need it.

Derry (16:42.378)
And so I did, I flew out early and I spent a full day and then a half day at Disneyland all by myself. Nick is so dumb. I was walking through the Magic Kingdom purposely wearing headphones so nobody would talk to me and I started crying because I realized it was the first time in a long time where I was just on my own at nobody else's agenda. I didn't have to worry about anybody else's agenda.

Nick Clason (16:59.206)
You

Mm.

Derry (17:10.862)
Now that's partly because I was in the season where I was leading team. had little kids. My main role was helping others. Yeah. Yep. And so, so I needed a refuel in a creative space. Like that's what I For me, it's not about the rides. It's the design. It's the creativity. It's the brilliance of a guy like Walt Disney that the single lives on. And so I got it there. So, so that's for me, how I refuel. That's not going to be the same for you. That's not going to be the same for somebody else that's listening. Another person's like, I need to join a book club.

Nick Clason (17:16.474)
A lot of people vying for your, just your attention, yeah.

Nick Clason (17:28.166)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (17:40.718)
because I love reading, but I love talking with people about it. Others, might, you whatever it might be.

Nick Clason (17:44.634)
But I think within that though, right, like one thing that's really key for youth pastors, I would say, is like try to find that community or if you do need like people to recharge, like try to find that, but try to find it in like a lane of like a hobby and not like by being a part of a church small group. You know what I mean? Or like where you're around church people and you still have to sort of like lean back into your role, like find something that truly genuinely like allows you to

Derry (18:00.141)
Yes.

Derry (18:04.492)
Yeah. Yep.

Derry (18:13.742)
That's good, Nick. That's good. You even got me just thinking out loud right now of that moment. I'm sure there's many couples that have set together and said, man, I'm just burned out by this place and we need to find fellowship. And then the next thought is we need to find fellowship in here because that will make us fall back in love with place. And that might be true, but it also might be the greatest mistake you could make is actually, no, we need to find community by going and joining a gaming like board game group.

Nick Clason (18:14.318)
separate.

Derry (18:43.022)
or forming a board game group with people, maybe a couple people from the church, but outside the church, but we make it really clear upfront, this is not sponsored by our church whatsoever. Or if you're feeling a level of burnout because you're always leading, what's the thing you can go join that's a group where nobody even knows that you're the leader? Because you walk into your church, and I did it, part of some awesome small groups, but the minute a big theological question came up, or a question about the church, even though I wasn't leading the group, where did all the eyes go? Boom.

Nick Clason (19:01.55)
Yeah, you're not the leader.

Nick Clason (19:11.11)
All eyes on you. Yep. Yep.

Derry (19:12.588)
You know, so yeah, that's right on. like there's a lot of layers we could take that. How do I refuel introvert extrovert? What brings life to you? What type of seasons you're in? I mean, I just thought about this. was telling you part of that Disneyland moment was I needed a space because I was on so many on the demand of so many people. And my wife and I just hit this. She's heading down to Florida with a good friend because she's been in five years of just just always being there for others.

Nick Clason (19:30.576)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (19:38.969)
on. Yeah.

Derry (19:39.864)
So even our vacations, she's still on, she's gotta be mama. And I'm like, babe, you are gonna go and it is treat yourself, you know? So there we go. that's self-awareness is key, personality. And then let me give one last one. We can do this one really quick, but it's important. If you've been in ministry for a while, be aware of the seasons that hit extra hard and the seasons that you just come alive in. And if that's the case, then you wanna be aware of it. So like there's season, like we have seasons.

Nick Clason (19:42.726)
100%, yep.

Nick Clason (19:46.95)
haha

Derry (20:09.006)
that will hit literally in the calendar. If I were to talk to somebody who's been in ministry five or six years or longer and say, tell me some of the toughest times you've gone through. And we were to list out like 15 of them. I guarantee you will notice something that it hit in a certain month or right after a certain event or just in a fall time. I was talking with a counselor who works in the same church I worked in. My season was February, March. And I think a lot of youth pastors do that. February.

Nick Clason (20:11.044)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (20:19.866)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (20:29.03)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (20:38.86)
And March is like halfway through this year. Students are kind of like in the doldrums of things, especially in where I live. I'm in the Midwest where the official colors of February and March are brown or gray. And so there's that piece.

Nick Clason (20:53.144)
And it's just a long, I've learned too, from a youth ministry standpoint, it's a long stretch of nothing. Like the fall, you get to like come back from summer, but it's a quick, honestly, two to three months sprint until the holidays. And that's exciting. But then you come back in January and there's really nothing until like, know, Easter, but that's not for us. That's not for youth pastors.

Derry (21:07.788)
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not January. Yeah. January is kind of the joy of getting back together, kicking off here and then it hits. And I just would love for you, you pastors, think about the times where you had to like do an intervention on a suicide, a call to Child Protective Services because of something that came up in the group or a really weird situation where you're like, gosh, that was heavy.

and ask yourself, how many times did it fall right in that time? I would like literally tell my team guys, it's February. Once you'd be ready for an extra late night coming up somewhere, cause we're to have to sort through something. Now that, now the counselor that I was working with, he talked about how October was his time, which I love October around here. It's beautiful for him. The trick is it's like, he's in a lot of adult ministry stuff. Groups get kicked off. It's like, he's going, going, going, going. And then it's done. And it's just like a crash time. And so he just hits really, really hard. So

Nick Clason (21:45.083)
Mm.

Nick Clason (21:52.026)
Hmm. Yeah.

Nick Clason (21:58.906)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (22:06.926)
The fellow youth pastor with me who was very like contemplative in nature it was right after summer camp and right there's like this short gap between summer camp and starting for the fall where he would just like struggle and want to quit. So it's different for all of us and I just would say be when you're aware of that one just the awareness alone helps you go. I'm not burning out right now. I'm just in a tough season.

Nick Clason (22:14.18)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (22:22.118)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (22:31.734)
Mmm. Mmm.

Derry (22:34.698)
Also, maybe this is the time where I need to book a vacation or get away, you know, so there's that. So be aware of those areas.

Nick Clason (22:38.316)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, when we lived in the Midwest, we were like, we gotta get outta here in January, February, March. Especially March, because March, when we lived in Chicago, March was like fake spring. It tricks you and you're like, it's spring now, but no, it's not, still in the 30s, it's still in the 40s, and it's still very gray. And you're like, dang, it never switches to spring until really like May. And so that's where we were like, we need to,

Derry (22:47.544)
Yep. Yeah.

Derry (22:52.718)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (23:07.746)
What we would always do, we weren't good at getting in front of it, is during that time, that's when we would book a vacation. And then we'd book it for like September when it's like beautiful. like...

Derry (23:14.498)
Yeah, right. Good.

Yeah, but the anticipation of that and that's probably somewhat inside of how do you refuel? I also refuel on the planning of the vacation almost as much as going on it. And so, yeah, yeah, right, right. So yeah, that's good. And I'm officially lobbying for a fifth season and the season is called Blah. It runs from February up until either Easter or spring break. It's one of those two.

Nick Clason (23:21.84)
For sure.

Nick Clason (23:26.47)
Hmm, especially if you're a Disney person that you gotta like you gotta get nerdy about it. So Yeah

Derry (23:43.842)
The mascot's a leprechaun that's angry, kicking a groundhog. I've got colors, I've got the general, I mean, like, I think we should do it. Name it that and call it what it is.

Nick Clason (23:50.596)
Listen.

We already have it. you, yeah, it's not on the calendar technically, but like it's already there for real. like consider it done. The club is formed. You have your season. Yeah.

Derry (23:58.53)
Yep. Yeah.

There we go. We did it. We did it. Okay, so there we go. That's all I, but that's all inside self-aware for me is know your personality, working genius, recognize how you refuel and then pay attention to where the seasons hit. And we didn't hit it, but where do you come alive and be aware of those times and make sure you're capitalizing on those times in what you come alive with.

Nick Clason (24:08.282)
You gotta know. Yep.

Nick Clason (24:16.262)
Mm.

Nick Clason (24:21.348)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, okay, so all self-awareness, like the piece of like burning out into your point, like as people in ministry and maybe even families, like you have a lot of responsibility. And so it almost sometimes feels like even selfish to consider who am I, understanding yourself, where do I come alive, and what do, like this question, what do I need, right? And so part of that burnout piece is like being bold enough

to declare what you really need in order to stay healthy. And so, all that being said, that's step one. What's step two?

Derry (24:53.422)
Mm-hmm. You're still the right...

Derry (24:59.118)
Yeah, yeah. in that, and then I'll go right into step two out of that. Give yourself permission to speak up for yourself with this mantra in your head. A burnout me is not a successful me. And so you go, man, I can't do that. And grit, yeah, dang it, grit yourself through. There's some of us that are being lazy. We're giving this as excuses. We're saying, need more time off. And it's on us. But also recognize, there's a legit.

Nick Clason (25:11.951)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (25:19.184)
For sure.

Nick Clason (25:22.886)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (25:27.15)
breaking point at times that can happen in some of the stuff. so advocating to say like, hey, I need to schedule a little lighter during this time. I need to... Okay. So with that, that leads great into the next part is recognizing that balance is something you find over time, not in the moment. Yeah. know, balance gets used a lot. am I in balance? And yeah, work-life balance.

Nick Clason (25:34.586)
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that, which is so good.

Nick Clason (25:45.84)
Hmm. Flush that out.

Work-life balance.

Derry (25:55.086)
You know is just like I got it I can't I feel so out of balance and I was feeling that for so long and I remember I was sitting with a in a network valuable that also helps you avoid burnout I was sitting in a network and a guy that been a little longer the topic is balance He goes I've just learned balance is a pipe dream. It's a pipe dream I'm never gonna get it and I was like Balaan. That's ridiculous now. He unfortunately didn't Yeah, he didn't He didn't really flesh it out over time. I'm like

Nick Clason (26:13.478)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (26:17.798)
You're like watch this I'm gonna get balance

Derry (26:25.314)
But I started thinking through it and I was talking to with my mentor and he said, I agree with him if you're looking at it on a day by day basis. The real question is how do I find balance over time? We're gonna probably, like today, my day will be out of balance when it comes to time with my kids because they're at school and it's church tonight and we all head off to our different spaces. But Saturday,

Nick Clason (26:46.886)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (26:50.54)
areas,

Derry (26:54.112)
As it sits right now, my daughter has a musical that I'm gonna go, she's three days with a musical for a middle school musical. We've learned. Whole family's going Friday. I'm going Saturday. Wife's going Sunday. Now people that might wanna get mad at me, she's like prop crew. I'm only gonna see her foot once. So Saturday is a ton of family time. But I'm not gonna work at all. That's out of balance, right? My work home life in Saturday.

Nick Clason (27:13.626)
Yeah

Nick Clason (27:20.304)
Yeah.

Derry (27:22.316)
So the whole idea is what does it look like over time? And two tools that I would just say I've learned. One was I taught it to myself. The other was a really brilliant man with wonderful calves named Josh Griffin. I was talking to him right at the time he was finishing up at, what's that one? Saddleback, yeah. I don't know if you ever heard of it. Small church out in California.

Nick Clason (27:40.537)
Ever heard of it? Yeah.

Derry (27:43.88)
And he was also starting up DYM, student leadership conference was running like crazy. He was traveling around and doing stuff. And he had like four kids all in like, I got to be on. And I just said, dude, how do you do it? You know, like how in the world do you work this whole balance of stuff? And he goes, no, not great. And then he said, but what I've learned to do is I'm constantly grading myself in those categories. I'm just constantly giving myself a grade. I stop, I pause, I reflect, you know, so saddle back.

Nick Clason (27:54.224)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (28:06.374)
Hmm.

Derry (28:13.774)
How am I right now? know what? Camp just finished up A minus. Like I've given them my best and I feel like I'm crushing it there. How am I doing on the DYM world? You know what? It's a B minus, but the reality is we're in summer and a lot of stuff can go on autopilot there. So that's totally fine. How am I on my own soul? Man, I'm really good. I'm gonna live. I'm gonna give that an A because I got great times with Jesus at camp.

Nick Clason (28:17.67)
Mm.

Nick Clason (28:32.869)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (28:43.726)
He didn't tell me this. I'm making this up, but this would be like I could see this be like he didn't tell me these grades, but but then he said, you know, but man, my wife and my kids, I'm going to see minus. And so that's now time where I need to shift over there. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And he said, and that's that's the recognition. And I recognize, you know what? I can go ahead and let Saddleback get down to a BB minus right now. I can I can continue to. Yeah, right.

Nick Clason (28:49.114)
Bye bye.

Nick Clason (28:54.982)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (28:58.914)
There's self-awareness, right? Like that goes back to that first step there.

Nick Clason (29:10.758)
Yeah, my job's safe. Not getting fired.

Derry (29:13.74)
Yeah, and let me tell you that like youth pastor, not every not every program has to be an A. There are times where it's OK for it to be a C. I know that's hard and you might have your bosses tell you otherwise. Well, I'm telling you it's OK. It's going to happen.

Nick Clason (29:26.852)
Yeah, we talk about all the time the principle of good enough. it's like, we've been having this conversation with some of our residents and say, hey, listen, I appreciate how much time you're pouring into message prep, but it's taking away from the other things that we need you to do and that you're really also very good at as well. so like make this message be, or for the love of all that is good, just use co-leader, which is already like better than anything you and I are gonna come up with.

Derry (29:43.97)
Yep. Yep.

Derry (29:51.362)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Nick Clason (29:54.062)
Just use it, because sadly the kids aren't gonna remember it. so fudge so that you can give yourself other places. I love that principle, because you gotta find that, like you said, you gotta find that balance over time. You gotta.

Derry (30:03.363)
Yeah, yeah.

Derry (30:08.846)
Yeah, yeah. So it's yeah, as you're grading, sometimes it's, oh, this grades low and I got to get it back up. Other times it's this grades low and that's really OK. Like we have misapplied. I don't get it wrong, but that Colossians passage about whatever you do, do it all for the glory of the Lord, that that that doing it for the glory of Lord equals one hundred and fifty percent. And I absolutely would say, no, that's actually not to the glory of the Lord. You're burning yourself out. And if I give one hundred and fifty percent to make an announcement video where I spend 30 hours turning it into like, you know,

Nick Clason (30:13.144)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (30:38.67)
MCU movie trailer quality. I was actually wasn't to the glory of the Lord. That was actually to the glory of me or to the glory. And it was a loss that I could have been spending that time with students listening to their struggles and praying and you know, so I think that's really important in it. So there's that grading thing. This is the other one. This one has been huge for me. I we joked about it. I do have a podcast that set dormant forever. And I did a whole episode on this principle. And it's the idea of

Nick Clason (30:43.609)
Hmm.

Interesting.

Nick Clason (30:53.808)
Mm.

Nick Clason (31:07.654)
Yeah, we'll link it. We'll link it. What's it? 2018 when it aired? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Derry (31:10.874)
It. 2018, 2019, but it is one of my favorite episodes I've ever done, to be really honest, because it just walks through this idea is simply walk, sprint, rest, understanding that that I need to have seasons of all three of those in my own life. And also in my actual ministry flow. And what do I mean by that? I think most of us live with the idea of it's sprint rest more times than not, or if we're lazy.

Nick Clason (31:20.422)
Mm.

Nick Clason (31:25.702)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (31:37.499)
Hmm.

Derry (31:38.978)
We do walk and then rest. But what do I mean by sprint? Sprint is when it's all hands on deck. I'm not gonna fit inside of the 36, 50 hours or whatever that are expected of me. It's gonna be more than that. And it's worth it. Summer camp for me, I recognize that was the time where I got the full group together. We would build vision and we'd do a mission strip before that and something after it. That was a sprint time. Like right around October in our ministry, was outreach season.

Nick Clason (31:42.278)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (31:50.95)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (32:08.203)
be able to just have our kids grab ahold of evangelism. And so it was worthy of the extra time. And so that was like that sprint and it needed my best efforts and the ministry needed my best efforts. But then there's also times like where it stop and ask, wait, do we just need to walk right now? And this is almost going back to this is okay if we're at B level or C level here. And in my ministry, December was that time. We would shut down, we would like,

Nick Clason (32:33.701)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (32:37.006)
December leading into Christmas. We would shut down the ministry pretty much at Christmas, so that was even rest. You the only thing I had to do was show up to Christmas Eve. But in December, we recognized like, man, if we just hand things over to small groups, that we're gonna crush it, and that takes less planning for us. Like all we have to do is just make sure we've set up small groups well. And so, and we didn't add, like I remember we were wanting to add a fall retreat, and we couldn't find a November, we started to move it to December, and I was like, no, nope, no, that, we were gonna walk in December. We're not gonna throw one more thing in.

Nick Clason (32:38.406)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (33:06.19)
And then, and what's crazy, now recognize this, that is a walk season for me. And then my worship pastor, total sprint season, right? But June and summer camps, almost like a rest season for him, right? So, so it's, it's, it's different. So being aware of that, looking at your calendar and even like marking it out and just knowing like, Hey, if there's a sprint season, sometimes it might be, it might be two weeks. It might be six to eight weeks. Now, if they're all like six to eight weeks and you don't see it.

Nick Clason (33:13.902)
Exactly, yeah.

Nick Clason (33:19.206)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (33:30.363)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (33:34.19)
But this is the idea, like, I think we get into this idea, sprint, rest, sprint, rest, sprint, rest. I don't think we're resting. We're sprinting and then we're crashing. Rest actually involves rejuvenating. And then if we're sprinting and then we say we're resting, but all we're doing is walking, we're not taking any time off, then we're in trouble. So finding those things where those come into play and remembering the seasons. So if it's a season where it gets really, really rough, I might personally...

need to get the ministry at a walk pace so I can hand it over and I can truly rest and go take a vacation. Honestly, sometimes during a sprint season in the ministry, if you get there long enough, you might actually be able to, again, rest some. I got to the point where I planned some of my vacations over that October time because I had residents that would run without reach, they got the vision, and we'd get away. And it was really, really good for me. again, that grading system and that walk sprint rest system were huge and have been huge for me in helping learn.

Nick Clason (34:06.714)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (34:20.272)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (34:32.152)
to avoid burnout.

Nick Clason (34:34.256)
So then that's, so step one, be self-aware. Step two, aim for balance over time using those two things, walk, sprint, rest, and the grading system. So then your third one, how do you do, how do you manage and avoid burnout? What's this last piece here?

Derry (34:51.406)
Yeah, Yeah, and this is where the rest part is key is finding my true unplug. That's the way the principle is the idea of find my true unplug. Rest is unplugging, especially, let's just look at it from ministry, unplugging from the church and the ministry so that I can truly rest or in that rest invest into my soul, my family. And two things for me that are big, and I'll be honest, the one,

I'm learning more now over the last couple years that I didn't do well in my ministry life. And that Sabbath, understanding the principle of Sabbath, if you've not read or listened to anything from John Mark Comer on just the idea of the ruthless elimination of hurry and the difference between a day off and Sabbath, there's some great principles in there to hit and what it means to truly just stop, to stop and find joy in the day.

Nick Clason (35:36.507)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (35:49.986)
been rediscovering that dude and it's wild and that's a lot more for me that I need that. With the recognition of my family. But the one that has people would ask me all the time. How'd you last 23 years at one church? And I'd say all the time. This is not the reason, but it's the number one thing that I think gets missed so often. And it was huge for us as vacationing. We are in a small town at a very large church that

Nick Clason (36:14.694)
Hmm.

Derry (36:18.498)
that just goes, I loved and still love youth mystery. And so I can't stop thinking about it. It's on my mind all the time everywhere I'm going. And so the ability to truly unplug from the church, I needed to get away. And so my wife and I learned, yeah.

Nick Clason (36:24.762)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (36:31.728)
Mm-hmm. Because you can't just do it in town because it's the church is such a big component of that area. Yeah.

Derry (36:38.53)
Yeah. Yeah, we would literally have to go on dates if we wanted to like get away. We would go like two towns over just so we wouldn't run into people. And and and so the idea of a prolonged time to truly get a week to go on vacation. I some people do staycations didn't work for us because my mind was too on. so getting and traveling somewhere and we got pretty pretty dedicated and it was huge. It became significant before kids. We went six years without kids and we had

Nick Clason (36:44.292)
Yeah. Yeah.

Derry (37:08.974)
two significant vacations a year most of the time. And some people would go like, can't afford it. Well, we found ways to do one.

Nick Clason (37:17.296)
That's, I was gonna ask that, like, youth pastors notoriously, I can't do it, I don't have money, like, how do you do it?

Derry (37:22.668)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll say there's two things. One would be you find creative ways, you know, my parents, I'm fortunate my parents had a cabin up in Michigan that we would go to and that was a much cheaper vacation. But Dave Ramsey would get mad at me for this. But I say, I think you got more money than you realize. It's just where you spend money. And so we committed to run our cars into the ground and not like do a new

Nick Clason (37:38.438)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (37:50.949)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (37:52.59)
new lease. We dropped a lot of subscriptions other people would have because we said, man, this is where the money goes. But this is my Dave Ramseyism. would I so believe in this. would have even risked debt in that area to go on a vacation because I don't think this money we're spending on vacations is spending, it's investing. And so Disney, like you and I have talked about, Disney became our thing. Well, there's not a way to do Disney cheap. There's a way to do

Nick Clason (37:56.486)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (38:06.288)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (38:12.215)
Yeah, that's good.

Derry (38:20.728)
There's a way to save money on Disney if you learn how to do it. And so we did, we found ways to do that. And but what we did with that, was a couple key things we learned over time. One was Janelle would say it all the time. First, that's my wife, by the way. She would first say it was just the two of us. It's like, that's the one time where I have you. Like I have you. Like you're totally there and present with us. And it's not like she was saying you're a terrible husband who never does, but.

Nick Clason (38:22.048)
Do it cheaper. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (38:39.174)
Hmm.

Derry (38:47.906)
But I know you love the ministry and I love the ministry too. She worked at the church as well most of time. so that was so significant. But also man, memories that have been built. With my kids, we sit around the table lot of times and we just do a, hey, share a favorite family memory. Do you know how many of them are tied around that one time at Disney when my youngest who had always walked into the house after swimming in our backyard and just pull his shorts down? like, know, so we were like.

Nick Clason (38:54.928)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (39:02.372)
Mm.

Derry (39:15.842)
done in the way pool, gonna go grab lunch. And we just look over and he's like walking naked in the middle of a water park at Disney because, know, we're like all laughing and remember like you just the memories, the piece of that so key. But this is the other part and a key rule we did. We set a 30 minute, 30 mile rule where because we were both working in the church, it was like, once we get to a certain point, we don't talk church at all. And we kind of got really belligerent with it where it was like, we aren't even gonna talk about.

Nick Clason (39:23.565)
Thank

Nick Clason (39:32.144)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (39:42.374)
Hmm.

Derry (39:44.268)
our friends who go to the church. Because we were just so enveloped in it. was like just such a part of like we both worked there. We loved it, but also it drove us nuts at times. so.

Nick Clason (39:45.892)
Hmm.

Nick Clason (39:51.312)
Yeah. Yeah.

That, I've tried that too, like I tried implementing that and it's hard, bro. Like it's really difficult to do and I actually like failed a lot at it.

Derry (40:00.212)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we've been able to hold. She's great at holding me accountable to it in a loving way. But also there were moments I needed it. And so so we would we would stick to it. We didn't like, you know, when we fail, we'd go, OK, tomorrow we pick back up again. But what that did would often lead to some really awkward. don't know what to talk about time. And then on the other end, it would lead to I wouldn't call it like.

Nick Clason (40:13.381)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (40:25.51)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (40:29.858)
deep, rich, like all of sudden, you know, we're burying our souls to the, you know, the Lord's speaking new vision to us. Sometimes it was, but sometimes it was just, we just got to like talk about random things from our childhood that we never knew before, because we needed to find a topic to talk about. We just like watched some really, really stupid videos together because we weren't sure what to do and laughed a ton. And so things like...

Nick Clason (40:46.394)
Hmm. Yeah.

Derry (40:56.854)
just other topics and other things and zeroing in, been enormous for us.

Nick Clason (41:00.164)
That's so good. Yeah. think, I think, like listen, if you're watching, listening, maybe for some of you, like this is your next step, like plan a vacation, right? I know you might not feel like you have money, the means, whatever, but like you have vacation time. And one of the things you said on a podcast years ago that resonated deeply with me is don't leave any vacation days on the table.

Derry (41:16.386)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (41:21.485)
Yeah.

Derry (41:26.146)
I'm so glad you just said that. Yeah. Explain it. Explain it.

Nick Clason (41:27.524)
Yeah, because like here's the thing. What I now tell people is like, you're if you get two weeks of vacation, you are being hired like in America, we stink at this, first of all, but like you're being hired to work 50 weeks out of 52 weeks. So if you work 51 weeks because you only take one week off, you gave your church a free week of your work and that's not fair to you. And they're taking advantage of it. And nobody is going to say anything. Like if you have a great manager who's

Derry (41:40.888)
Yes.

Derry (41:47.96)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (41:56.326)
pushing you to do that, that's fantastic, but that's typically the exception, not the rule. And so if you get 50, if you get two weeks of vacation, you better only work 50 of them. And even if like you, even if you said, do a staycation, don't go anywhere, but like don't go to the office. it's, the job will get done without you because the other thing that I hate to break it to you is one day you're gonna leave cause you're gonna resign, you're gonna retire, you're gonna die and they will figure out.

what to do with that position. But you will never be able to be the husband to your wife or the wife to your husband or the father to your children or any of those other relationships like you uniquely can only invest in those places. And so don't leave days on table.

Derry (42:39.278)
Yeah, yep. thank you. Like you're right on, that's so key. It's, you know, like I would just love people to reflect. Are you at a church where when you do your all staff and you come together and you go through and you just celebrate everybody that worked extra hard, right? And everybody cheers. Why doesn't the church ever go, hey, it's the end of the year. We just want to celebrate the following people that used up every one of their vacation days. You know, they're not going to do that, but actually they'd be smart.

Nick Clason (42:56.249)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (43:04.548)
Yeah. No.

Derry (43:08.312)
What you're saying is true, but the reverse is true as well. If I haven't taken that time to unplug that 51st week and probably the 49th, 48th and 47th aren't even going to be the best versions of me, right? Like you're, you're, you're actually making it suffer because there's, we could go forever in this. When you're away, you have to delegate. So you now are living out the Ephesians four principle that you got to equip people for ministry. And then also you're reminded, I love this place, but they don't need me. Everything. Nothing fell apart.

Nick Clason (43:17.238)
Mm. Yeah, they suffer a little bit, but...

Nick Clason (43:27.194)
Mm-hmm.

That's it. Yeah.

Nick Clason (43:35.76)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Derry (43:37.154)
And so now you get to do it out of joy, not out of obligation. And then here's, let me give one more on top of this. This is what people are doing that are listening to this right now. I've really sucked at this. I really need to do it. And then if their vacation recycles in December or mine always recycled in June, they're like, I'm to do that. But then there's a real problem you've got probably where you're, moving toward burnout. If you find yourself every year when it's about time to recycle that you have to all of sudden cash in all your vacation days or you lose them.

Nick Clason (43:39.662)
Absolutely.

Nick Clason (44:04.432)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (44:04.834)
And so you're saying, no, I take all my days off. But what you do is not spread them out. Well, go back to the walk, sprint and rest. Look at that plan ahead, block out where the times are, find what works for you and recognize that I got so sick in the team. I was leading that I, I put my money where my mouth is on this, where I would say, how many vacation days are you at? And like, I'd celebrate it, but it also they are vacation time would recycle in June. And we had till August to use it.

Nick Clason (44:09.03)
Mm.

Yup.

Derry (44:33.56)
Well, that was all our summer camp season that went right into the fall break. And I would have like people gone in between camp and fall. And I was like, listen, I believe in this so much, we're gonna figure it out. But next year, please think through, you know, cause this isn't good for you. So there's like, I would just say that's really, really important to think through with it all. And again, find your true unplug. Nick and I love Disney.

Nick Clason (44:36.09)
Yeah, can't, you can't. Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (44:44.794)
Yeah, do something in March, bro. Yeah, yeah.

Nick Clason (45:00.358)
Mm-hmm.

Derry (45:01.016)
That might be the worst place for you to go do an unplug. And quite honestly, I'm not doing it much now because my oldest son, he's too cool for it. We've made the shift over to national parks because our kids can walk. And my word, man, like I'm exhausted, but God is alive in the beauty of it. So find your unplug.

Nick Clason (45:14.896)
But it's good, yeah.

Well, and I would say for us, the reason we like it is because it keeps us so busy, we don't really have time to sit around and talk about work. You know what mean? That's one of the reasons that we like Disney so much is like you said, it's just our family, it's just us trying to accomplish the thing and with all, trying to get the schedules and everything locked in.

Derry (45:26.21)
Yep. Right.

Derry (45:36.664)
Yeah, your boys are at a spot where like they you get to see there's nothing quite like seeing your kids overwhelmed with a joy. Yeah, like man, I'm getting flooded with even great memories right now of some times with that. Yeah, man. I love it.

Nick Clason (45:42.798)
See Mickey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so true. Yeah, yeah. Man, Derry, you crushed it. Thank you. People wanna do some of the stuff you got offering, like plug it up, plug it up here real quick before we wrap up.

Derry (45:53.57)
Thank you, man.

Derry (45:59.992)
Yeah, yeah, still working on the best way. don't, you know, I'm not, I don't have a great corporate master plan in this all, but I would say the first thing to check out from a website is YML cohort.com. That's Y is in yodel, is in marry, L is in ladle. I don't know. cohort. Yeah. Youthministereleadercohort.com. That's something we're doing that Nick talked about. and we, we run them in winter, spring, and in the fall and they're 10 weeks long.

Nick Clason (46:15.993)
or youth ministry leader.

Derry (46:28.97)
I'm toying around with maybe a summer one. I don't know. But check that out. But even if it's like in the middle where there's not one, there's an interest form you can fill out there. Always reach out to me anywhere on social. Like I offered that working genius thing. It's just at Dairy Prinkert. So D-E-R-R-Y P-R-E-N K-E-R-T. Find me. I'm not on TikTok.

Nick Clason (46:51.77)
That's okay, people aren't finding people on TikTok anyway. They're just watching funny videos, yeah.

Derry (46:53.612)
Yeah, it's hard to find. I'm on Instagram and I'm on Facebook the most and so find me there. And if you don't like anything, go post it over on X and I won't read it.

Nick Clason (47:06.544)
There you go. Love it, man. Hey, thank you so much for investing in youth leaders in this way and how you avoid burnout. Absolutely. Thanks, dude. All right. Hey guys, until next time, we'll see you. Bye.

Derry (47:09.602)
Thank you, dude. Thank you, Nick. Thanks for your investment, man. I love what you're doing.

]]> Episode 140: Social Media that [ACTUALLY] Works | Engage Donโ€™t Broadcast https://www.hybridministry.xyz/140 3815c12b-3eeb-46b4-be2b-c534d7f60b8c Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 140 Social Media that [ACTUALLY] Works | Engage Donโ€™t Broadcast full Nick Clason Struggling to make social media actually work for your youth ministry or overall church? In this episode, weโ€™re breaking down a 3-step strategy to move from just broadcasting announcements to real engagement that inspires and connects. If your social feed is just a wall of static graphics, itโ€™s time to rethink your approachโ€”letโ€™s build a social media presence that truly makes an impact! 14:12 no ๐ŸฆธBECOME A HYBRID HERO patreon.com/hybridministry โœ… CHURCH COMMUNICATIONS DONE FOR YOU https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ====================================== DESCRIPTION Struggling to make social media actually work for your youth ministry or overall church? 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If you're watching here on YouTube, we've been talking about communicating in your church, communicating with better church announcements, and one of the key elements and areas I think a lot of churches wrongfully default to is posting their announcements to social media. 00:00:58:21 - 00:01:26:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's where you just broadcasting about you. But I want to shift your strategy to engagement. Social media's invention. Social media is existence. Its best existence is not for information transfer. However, it is a good spot for inspiration along with entertainment. So give me a like if you've ever had your social media account look like this that you're seeing here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube or give me a sub if 00:01:26:06 - 00:01:26:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry these 00:01:27:00 - 00:01:35:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry announcement based posts have actually returned and yielded good results for you, the fact is, it probably have it. 00:01:35:10 - 00:01:44:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's why in this video, I want to lay out my three step social media strategy. And as always, here in the hybrid Ministry show, there are 00:01:44:13 - 00:01:45:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry chapters 00:01:45:11 - 00:01:56:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry linked down below. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show flavor. Welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson. 00:01:57:02 - 00:02:26:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and I've always known and seen the importance of a social or a digital media existence and a present presence. However, Covid really, really ushered that in. And as sort of a result of what Covid did, not only like around me, but in me, I decided like, man, I really like I see churches going a certain direction up and down a certain path and like, I want to be a voice that has something to say about it. 00:02:26:09 - 00:02:40:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And interestingly enough, I was on a livestream not too long ago. If you want to go check it out with, download Youth Ministry. And Josh was like, why are you the guy we're talking to you? And I said, it's interesting because I just started recording videos in 00:02:40:11 - 00:02:40:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry my guest 00:02:40:21 - 00:02:41:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry bedroom 00:02:41:05 - 00:02:47:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry early in the morning, and, here I am now on a live stream answering more questions to other people. 00:02:47:13 - 00:03:16:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it but it was because I was so passionate about this idea of social and digital media. And so, I don't think that when we're just posting announcements that we're doing, first of all, any service to our social platforms, to the algorithms, nor are we really serving our audience, especially on social in a, discovery era where people, stumble upon accounts that they've never seen before. 00:03:16:24 - 00:03:29:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But your Canva graphic for the chili cook off, that's only getting a handful of likes that that's not being discovered by anybody new, nor even probably your current church 00:03:29:27 - 00:03:30:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry members. 00:03:30:12 - 00:03:30:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so 00:03:30:21 - 00:03:43:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you really just making double the amount of work for you. And we've been discussing that in the last three videos about more effective communication, where I laid out better communication strategies for all churches and youth ministries. 00:03:43:27 - 00:03:55:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in this video, what I want to do is I want to say, okay, so if that's what you're supposed to do, if you're supposed to kind of leaning on email and leaning on your website and leaning on social for inspiration and entertainment, 00:03:55:27 - 00:03:56:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry what 00:03:56:21 - 00:03:58:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry exactly should you be posting? 00:03:58:22 - 00:04:03:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm glad you have three steps for everyone and their social media is is, three steps. 00:04:03:26 - 00:04:21:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Social media checklist. Step number one is make sure that your website is up to date. I've said that in every single video so far that we've been in this playlist. And it's true because when you take away social as an avenue for announcements or when you 00:04:21:00 - 00:04:21:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry reduce 00:04:21:15 - 00:04:21:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry your amount 00:04:21:24 - 00:04:30:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of stage announcements, there's still has to be a full bodied, one stop, robust shop for your church people to fall to. 00:04:30:07 - 00:04:49:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I think the best spot for that is your church website. And the first video we talked about the difference between Netflix TV and cable TV. And so when your website is a great spot, it can be a Netflix type location, an on demand type location rather than 00:04:49:02 - 00:04:52:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry hopefully they see the graphic that has the info on social media. 00:04:52:06 - 00:05:18:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Hopefully they they saved the email that you sent with the registration link. Hopefully there just have a photograph or you know, whatever the the audio version of that is memory from your staged announcement to do exactly what you want them to do in that moment. And if any people don't have those things, they're just in deep trouble. However, if you have a great website, none of those things matter as much, at least on the information side, right? 00:05:18:25 - 00:05:42:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can still inspire them with the stage announcement. You can still be witty on social media and you can still send a awesome email, but your website is the place where they can go to for that. That information that they really need to download and also move toward action them. And so as we've been talking about, I can actually if that's something anyone's interested in, I can actually do that for you. 00:05:42:28 - 00:06:04:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I can build a website for you one time, or you can kind of contact me to just come on and and run that on an ongoing basis, as well as even potentially we can explore what it looked like for me to run that plus your social media. But step number one, regardless of if it's me, regardless of if you use groups, which I recommend your website, just very simply needs to be up to date. 00:06:04:22 - 00:06:27:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't care what you use, I don't care who you use, I don't care how you get there, but make sure your website is good and thorough and up to date. Okay, that's the first step in the social media strategy process. Let's move on here to step number two. So your website kind of being up to date, that sort of satisfies the first check in the process. 00:06:27:07 - 00:06:30:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that also makes what I'm going to recommend here on 00:06:30:17 - 00:06:44:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry social, which is the second step here. The second step is you kind of want to become enamored with shorts, reels, TikTok style videos, because when your website is good, 00:06:44:04 - 00:06:44:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you don't 00:06:44:17 - 00:06:44:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry have to 00:06:44:28 - 00:06:54:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry worry about the information. So now you can leave that behind and you can now move ahead towards the era that social is really made for and meant for. 00:06:54:10 - 00:06:58:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, quick hit trip, quick hit, quick trip down 00:06:58:26 - 00:06:59:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry history, 00:06:59:29 - 00:07:00:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry memory lane 00:07:00:25 - 00:07:21:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry 2020 TikTok ushered in this new era of of social called the Discovery ERA. It was made popular with an app called TikTok. It is now banned in the United States of America, at least in the App Store right now. But TikTok brought in this brand new style and archetype of video. 00:07:21:00 - 00:07:25:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, it was so popular that not even four years later, according to 00:07:25:29 - 00:07:33:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry video, 90% of the internet's traffic is found on short form, vertical based video. 00:07:33:26 - 00:07:34:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because 00:07:34:20 - 00:07:49:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry every other platform then was trying to catch up and keep up with this brand new one called TikTok shorts. Reels. Facebook has Instagram has YouTube has some and even other like places like, Twitter. 00:07:49:15 - 00:07:51:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you're even on there, it'll it'll 00:07:51:08 - 00:08:08:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry be on a video, you'll be watching video and it'll auto scroll to the next one. They even built in the scrolling type functionality. And there's a couple pieces of relevant things with it. First of all, it's video based and it's short and it's quippy and it's fun. But secondly, like I said earlier, it said discover re era. 00:08:08:07 - 00:08:37:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you jump on Reels on Instagram, if you jump on your TikTok for you page more than I think 90% of the I believe that's the stat of the videos that you're served are from people that you've never actually even met. And so that's good news for you and I. As churches and youth ministries, we can get on to other people's for you pages without buying their attention or without having them have to follow or subscribe or or know about our channel. 00:08:37:05 - 00:09:02:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The key is producing good content. And so step one website. Step two start focusing on good shorts, which is why I've created down below my hybrid strategy. Got it will not only lay out my plan and what I do in my student ministry, but it will also give you different ideas and types of content that you can use for your social media and for your shorts, you know? 00:09:02:09 - 00:09:21:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like in our student ministry, I post ten different pieces of content, every single week. And it's all different. Kind of like styles of content. And so if you'd like more info on that, you definitely hop down and grab my free strategy guide. It will lay out how we do it, what we do, and how we capture it, how we batch record. 00:09:21:20 - 00:09:25:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I also talked about it in my live stream, a lot of different videos on my 00:09:25:13 - 00:09:38:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry channel. We'll kind of unpack it. And so I'm not going to, you know, bog you down with that info here on this video, but go, go check it out. Go subscribe. Go listen to some more podcasts and we'll get you covered on what exactly we do. 00:09:38:23 - 00:09:39:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Moving on to 00:09:39:28 - 00:10:05:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry step number three then is shorts are great, and if you don't have any capacity and you need to stop there and, and, you know, bolster your strategy and bolster your infrastructure to make that happen. And by all means do that. But then step three, the eye on the prize for all churches and youth ministries is you want your long form primary teaching content posted to YouTube. 00:10:05:18 - 00:10:18:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry 90% of teenagers, according to Pew Research, are on YouTube, and so generation Z and Generation Alpha are landing in and making YouTube home. In 00:10:18:01 - 00:10:18:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry fact, 00:10:18:11 - 00:10:18:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry according to 00:10:18:25 - 00:10:40:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry a book called Meet Gen Alpha by Mccrindle and Fell, they said that YouTube is actually supplanting Google as the number one primary search engine for Generation Alpha. And so you want to be on YouTube, and if you're running your church, social media for, you're like overall church, you probably have some measure, some version of a live stream. 00:10:40:20 - 00:11:13:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's great. Put that on YouTube. If your equipment is good and working, then great. Put that on YouTube. In student ministry, if you have the ability to do that, then go ahead and put that on YouTube and anywhere else you want to put it. But you definitely have to make sure that you put it on YouTube. And then if you don't have anything, which my strategy guide will lay out exactly how we do this in our environment and in our setting, we don't have any live stream equipment, so we actually sit down before the message several weeks ahead of time, pre-record our message using like a teleprompter. 00:11:13:28 - 00:11:33:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, we've built out like a full studio, so like, I can have all that stuff linked down below. You can check out my studio episode, and you can buy any of the stuff that we have that might be helpful for you. And I also have a Patreon where I'm talking about how I implement my hybrid strategy in my, environment every single week. 00:11:33:14 - 00:11:43:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that podcast is $4 a month. It's one extra bonus podcast per week. Plus, literally, I think I throw in a freebie almost every single week. So 00:11:43:13 - 00:11:52:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I believe that that podcast is a very nominal fee for a lot. A lot of value. And so if you want to kind of go all in on this hybrid strategy, I would recommend that. 00:11:52:14 - 00:12:16:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But we sit down, we pre-record it, and then we post those to YouTube trying to answer some of life's hard questions with our titles, with our tags, and even with our thumbnails. And so again, comes for you. I can help you with that. But the goal then is to take your short content and build an audience that eventually promotes and and pushes people over to your in long form content. 00:12:16:08 - 00:12:45:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's the that's the Mecca of your social platform. And what that does is that that reduces the anxiety, that reduces the pressure that is on your social channels to communicate your announcements. If your website's doing its job, then you're short form content, both fun and serious, can point to you and promote your long form content, which is serious, which will also then helps to help answer students big questions about life and faith, regardless of if they're in your context or not. 00:12:45:16 - 00:13:03:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry With an eye towards and with the focus on your students or your people in your context, and then like just, you know, a next steps form or some way for them to respond to whatever sort of like message that you have put on YouTube. And what I would recommend again, is that takes us all the way back to number one. 00:13:03:04 - 00:13:26:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Make sure there's a good like digital next steps form, one that's universally used and applied in all of your settings when you're teaching. And then with that link you can just post that in the comments of a YouTube video. 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01:50 Stop Ignoring Digital Ministry
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TRANSCRIPT
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Is your social media account

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on

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life support, like just a bunch of pre downloaded graphics or things that you've made in Canva?

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If it is, rest assured you're probably in the majority of other youth workers or even church communications social media managers who know that there's more for social, but you just don't have the capacity or the bandwidth or maybe the desire to take it to that next level.

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But in this video I want to do is I want to help you take your social media from broadcasting a message to engaging the message and in the video playlists that we've been currently in, linked right here at the top of the screen. If you're watching here on YouTube, we've been talking about communicating in your church, communicating with better church announcements, and one of the key elements and areas I think a lot of churches wrongfully default to is posting their announcements to social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's where you just broadcasting about you. But I want to shift your strategy to engagement. Social media's invention. Social media is existence. Its best existence is not for information transfer. However, it is a good spot for inspiration along with entertainment. So give me a like if you've ever had your social media account look like this that you're seeing here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube or give me a sub if

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these

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announcement based posts have actually returned and yielded good results for you, the fact is, it probably have it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's why in this video, I want to lay out my three step social media strategy. And as always, here in the hybrid Ministry show, there are

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chapters

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linked down below. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show flavor. Welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson.

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I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and I've always known and seen the importance of a social or a digital media existence and a present presence. However, Covid really, really ushered that in. And as sort of a result of what Covid did, not only like around me, but in me, I decided like, man, I really like I see churches going a certain direction up and down a certain path and like, I want to be a voice that has something to say about it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And interestingly enough, I was on a livestream not too long ago. If you want to go check it out with, download Youth Ministry. And Josh was like, why are you the guy we're talking to you? And I said, it's interesting because I just started recording videos in

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my guest

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bedroom

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early in the morning, and, here I am now on a live stream answering more questions to other people.

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And it but it was because I was so passionate about this idea of social and digital media. And so, I don't think that when we're just posting announcements that we're doing, first of all, any service to our social platforms, to the algorithms, nor are we really serving our audience, especially on social in a, discovery era where people, stumble upon accounts that they've never seen before.

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But your Canva graphic for the chili cook off, that's only getting a handful of likes that that's not being discovered by anybody new, nor even probably your current church

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members.

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And so

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you really just making double the amount of work for you. And we've been discussing that in the last three videos about more effective communication, where I laid out better communication strategies for all churches and youth ministries.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video, what I want to do is I want to say, okay, so if that's what you're supposed to do, if you're supposed to kind of leaning on email and leaning on your website and leaning on social for inspiration and entertainment,

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what

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exactly should you be posting?

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I'm glad you have three steps for everyone and their social media is is, three steps.

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Social media checklist. Step number one is make sure that your website is up to date. I've said that in every single video so far that we've been in this playlist. And it's true because when you take away social as an avenue for announcements or when you

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reduce

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your amount

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of stage announcements, there's still has to be a full bodied, one stop, robust shop for your church people to fall to.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think the best spot for that is your church website. And the first video we talked about the difference between Netflix TV and cable TV. And so when your website is a great spot, it can be a Netflix type location, an on demand type location rather than

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hopefully they see the graphic that has the info on social media.

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Hopefully they they saved the email that you sent with the registration link. Hopefully there just have a photograph or you know, whatever the the audio version of that is memory from your staged announcement to do exactly what you want them to do in that moment. And if any people don't have those things, they're just in deep trouble. However, if you have a great website, none of those things matter as much, at least on the information side, right?

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You can still inspire them with the stage announcement. You can still be witty on social media and you can still send a awesome email, but your website is the place where they can go to for that. That information that they really need to download and also move toward action them. And so as we've been talking about, I can actually if that's something anyone's interested in, I can actually do that for you.

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I can build a website for you one time, or you can kind of contact me to just come on and and run that on an ongoing basis, as well as even potentially we can explore what it looked like for me to run that plus your social media. But step number one, regardless of if it's me, regardless of if you use groups, which I recommend your website, just very simply needs to be up to date.

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I don't care what you use, I don't care who you use, I don't care how you get there, but make sure your website is good and thorough and up to date. Okay, that's the first step in the social media strategy process. Let's move on here to step number two. So your website kind of being up to date, that sort of satisfies the first check in the process.

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And that also makes what I'm going to recommend here on

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social, which is the second step here. The second step is you kind of want to become enamored with shorts, reels, TikTok style videos, because when your website is good,

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you don't

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have to

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worry about the information. So now you can leave that behind and you can now move ahead towards the era that social is really made for and meant for.

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And so, quick hit trip, quick hit, quick trip down

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history,

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memory lane

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2020 TikTok ushered in this new era of of social called the Discovery ERA. It was made popular with an app called TikTok. It is now banned in the United States of America, at least in the App Store right now. But TikTok brought in this brand new style and archetype of video.

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In fact, it was so popular that not even four years later, according to

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video, 90% of the internet's traffic is found on short form, vertical based video.

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Because

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every other platform then was trying to catch up and keep up with this brand new one called TikTok shorts. Reels. Facebook has Instagram has YouTube has some and even other like places like, Twitter.

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If you're even on there, it'll it'll

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be on a video, you'll be watching video and it'll auto scroll to the next one. They even built in the scrolling type functionality. And there's a couple pieces of relevant things with it. First of all, it's video based and it's short and it's quippy and it's fun. But secondly, like I said earlier, it said discover re era.

00:08:08:07 - 00:08:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you jump on Reels on Instagram, if you jump on your TikTok for you page more than I think 90% of the I believe that's the stat of the videos that you're served are from people that you've never actually even met. And so that's good news for you and I. As churches and youth ministries, we can get on to other people's for you pages without buying their attention or without having them have to follow or subscribe or or know about our channel.

00:08:37:05 - 00:09:02:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The key is producing good content. And so step one website. Step two start focusing on good shorts, which is why I've created down below my hybrid strategy. Got it will not only lay out my plan and what I do in my student ministry, but it will also give you different ideas and types of content that you can use for your social media and for your shorts, you know?

00:09:02:09 - 00:09:21:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like in our student ministry, I post ten different pieces of content, every single week. And it's all different. Kind of like styles of content. And so if you'd like more info on that, you definitely hop down and grab my free strategy guide. It will lay out how we do it, what we do, and how we capture it, how we batch record.

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I also talked about it in my live stream, a lot of different videos on my

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channel. We'll kind of unpack it. And so I'm not going to, you know, bog you down with that info here on this video, but go, go check it out. Go subscribe. Go listen to some more podcasts and we'll get you covered on what exactly we do.

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Moving on to

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step number three then is shorts are great, and if you don't have any capacity and you need to stop there and, and, you know, bolster your strategy and bolster your infrastructure to make that happen. And by all means do that. But then step three, the eye on the prize for all churches and youth ministries is you want your long form primary teaching content posted to YouTube.

00:10:05:18 - 00:10:18:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
90% of teenagers, according to Pew Research, are on YouTube, and so generation Z and Generation Alpha are landing in and making YouTube home. In

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fact,

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according to

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a book called Meet Gen Alpha by Mccrindle and Fell, they said that YouTube is actually supplanting Google as the number one primary search engine for Generation Alpha. And so you want to be on YouTube, and if you're running your church, social media for, you're like overall church, you probably have some measure, some version of a live stream.

00:10:40:20 - 00:11:13:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's great. Put that on YouTube. If your equipment is good and working, then great. Put that on YouTube. In student ministry, if you have the ability to do that, then go ahead and put that on YouTube and anywhere else you want to put it. But you definitely have to make sure that you put it on YouTube. And then if you don't have anything, which my strategy guide will lay out exactly how we do this in our environment and in our setting, we don't have any live stream equipment, so we actually sit down before the message several weeks ahead of time, pre-record our message using like a teleprompter.

00:11:13:28 - 00:11:33:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, we've built out like a full studio, so like, I can have all that stuff linked down below. You can check out my studio episode, and you can buy any of the stuff that we have that might be helpful for you. And I also have a Patreon where I'm talking about how I implement my hybrid strategy in my, environment every single week.

00:11:33:14 - 00:11:43:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that podcast is $4 a month. It's one extra bonus podcast per week. Plus, literally, I think I throw in a freebie almost every single week. So

00:11:43:13 - 00:11:52:12
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I believe that that podcast is a very nominal fee for a lot. A lot of value. And so if you want to kind of go all in on this hybrid strategy, I would recommend that.

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But we sit down, we pre-record it, and then we post those to YouTube trying to answer some of life's hard questions with our titles, with our tags, and even with our thumbnails. And so again, comes for you. I can help you with that. But the goal then is to take your short content and build an audience that eventually promotes and and pushes people over to your in long form content.

00:12:16:08 - 00:12:45:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the that's the Mecca of your social platform. And what that does is that that reduces the anxiety, that reduces the pressure that is on your social channels to communicate your announcements. If your website's doing its job, then you're short form content, both fun and serious, can point to you and promote your long form content, which is serious, which will also then helps to help answer students big questions about life and faith, regardless of if they're in your context or not.

00:12:45:16 - 00:13:03:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
With an eye towards and with the focus on your students or your people in your context, and then like just, you know, a next steps form or some way for them to respond to whatever sort of like message that you have put on YouTube. And what I would recommend again, is that takes us all the way back to number one.

00:13:03:04 - 00:13:26:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure there's a good like digital next steps form, one that's universally used and applied in all of your settings when you're teaching. And then with that link you can just post that in the comments of a YouTube video. And your website is helping serve your holistic hybrid and digital strategy. And that is my three step social media process.

00:13:26:15 - 00:13:27:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure your website's up

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to date. Lean into shorts. Start producing as many of them as you can that make realistic sense during your week? Just be. Just be consistent with it. Don't have a number in mind. And then all with an eye toward the prize of. Start posting your long form messages to YouTube and and all of that.

00:13:46:09 - 00:14:09:00
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I can help with coaching. I can help by running it for you. I can help on my Patreon. I can help on this channel for free. So give me a subscribe if you would like to hear more about that topic. But until next time and as always, my friends appreciate you being here. Appreciate you trying to communicate in a digital and noisy world, but I want to encourage you to stay hybrid.

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00:00 Is your Church Social Media on Life Support?
01:50 Stop Ignoring Digital Ministry
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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is your social media account

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
on

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life support, like just a bunch of pre downloaded graphics or things that you've made in Canva?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If it is, rest assured you're probably in the majority of other youth workers or even church communications social media managers who know that there's more for social, but you just don't have the capacity or the bandwidth or maybe the desire to take it to that next level.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video I want to do is I want to help you take your social media from broadcasting a message to engaging the message and in the video playlists that we've been currently in, linked right here at the top of the screen. If you're watching here on YouTube, we've been talking about communicating in your church, communicating with better church announcements, and one of the key elements and areas I think a lot of churches wrongfully default to is posting their announcements to social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's where you just broadcasting about you. But I want to shift your strategy to engagement. Social media's invention. Social media is existence. Its best existence is not for information transfer. However, it is a good spot for inspiration along with entertainment. So give me a like if you've ever had your social media account look like this that you're seeing here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube or give me a sub if

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
these

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announcement based posts have actually returned and yielded good results for you, the fact is, it probably have it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's why in this video, I want to lay out my three step social media strategy. And as always, here in the hybrid Ministry show, there are

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chapters

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
linked down below. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry show flavor. Welcome back to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and I've always known and seen the importance of a social or a digital media existence and a present presence. However, Covid really, really ushered that in. And as sort of a result of what Covid did, not only like around me, but in me, I decided like, man, I really like I see churches going a certain direction up and down a certain path and like, I want to be a voice that has something to say about it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And interestingly enough, I was on a livestream not too long ago. If you want to go check it out with, download Youth Ministry. And Josh was like, why are you the guy we're talking to you? And I said, it's interesting because I just started recording videos in

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my guest

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
bedroom

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early in the morning, and, here I am now on a live stream answering more questions to other people.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it but it was because I was so passionate about this idea of social and digital media. And so, I don't think that when we're just posting announcements that we're doing, first of all, any service to our social platforms, to the algorithms, nor are we really serving our audience, especially on social in a, discovery era where people, stumble upon accounts that they've never seen before.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But your Canva graphic for the chili cook off, that's only getting a handful of likes that that's not being discovered by anybody new, nor even probably your current church

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
members.

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And so

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you really just making double the amount of work for you. And we've been discussing that in the last three videos about more effective communication, where I laid out better communication strategies for all churches and youth ministries.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video, what I want to do is I want to say, okay, so if that's what you're supposed to do, if you're supposed to kind of leaning on email and leaning on your website and leaning on social for inspiration and entertainment,

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what

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exactly should you be posting?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm glad you have three steps for everyone and their social media is is, three steps.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Social media checklist. Step number one is make sure that your website is up to date. I've said that in every single video so far that we've been in this playlist. And it's true because when you take away social as an avenue for announcements or when you

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reduce

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
your amount

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
of stage announcements, there's still has to be a full bodied, one stop, robust shop for your church people to fall to.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think the best spot for that is your church website. And the first video we talked about the difference between Netflix TV and cable TV. And so when your website is a great spot, it can be a Netflix type location, an on demand type location rather than

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hopefully they see the graphic that has the info on social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hopefully they they saved the email that you sent with the registration link. Hopefully there just have a photograph or you know, whatever the the audio version of that is memory from your staged announcement to do exactly what you want them to do in that moment. And if any people don't have those things, they're just in deep trouble. However, if you have a great website, none of those things matter as much, at least on the information side, right?

00:05:18:25 - 00:05:42:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can still inspire them with the stage announcement. You can still be witty on social media and you can still send a awesome email, but your website is the place where they can go to for that. That information that they really need to download and also move toward action them. And so as we've been talking about, I can actually if that's something anyone's interested in, I can actually do that for you.

00:05:42:28 - 00:06:04:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can build a website for you one time, or you can kind of contact me to just come on and and run that on an ongoing basis, as well as even potentially we can explore what it looked like for me to run that plus your social media. But step number one, regardless of if it's me, regardless of if you use groups, which I recommend your website, just very simply needs to be up to date.

00:06:04:22 - 00:06:27:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I don't care what you use, I don't care who you use, I don't care how you get there, but make sure your website is good and thorough and up to date. Okay, that's the first step in the social media strategy process. Let's move on here to step number two. So your website kind of being up to date, that sort of satisfies the first check in the process.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that also makes what I'm going to recommend here on

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social, which is the second step here. The second step is you kind of want to become enamored with shorts, reels, TikTok style videos, because when your website is good,

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you don't

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have to

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worry about the information. So now you can leave that behind and you can now move ahead towards the era that social is really made for and meant for.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, quick hit trip, quick hit, quick trip down

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history,

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memory lane

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2020 TikTok ushered in this new era of of social called the Discovery ERA. It was made popular with an app called TikTok. It is now banned in the United States of America, at least in the App Store right now. But TikTok brought in this brand new style and archetype of video.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In fact, it was so popular that not even four years later, according to

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video, 90% of the internet's traffic is found on short form, vertical based video.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because

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every other platform then was trying to catch up and keep up with this brand new one called TikTok shorts. Reels. Facebook has Instagram has YouTube has some and even other like places like, Twitter.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're even on there, it'll it'll

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
be on a video, you'll be watching video and it'll auto scroll to the next one. They even built in the scrolling type functionality. And there's a couple pieces of relevant things with it. First of all, it's video based and it's short and it's quippy and it's fun. But secondly, like I said earlier, it said discover re era.

00:08:08:07 - 00:08:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you jump on Reels on Instagram, if you jump on your TikTok for you page more than I think 90% of the I believe that's the stat of the videos that you're served are from people that you've never actually even met. And so that's good news for you and I. As churches and youth ministries, we can get on to other people's for you pages without buying their attention or without having them have to follow or subscribe or or know about our channel.

00:08:37:05 - 00:09:02:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The key is producing good content. And so step one website. Step two start focusing on good shorts, which is why I've created down below my hybrid strategy. Got it will not only lay out my plan and what I do in my student ministry, but it will also give you different ideas and types of content that you can use for your social media and for your shorts, you know?

00:09:02:09 - 00:09:21:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like in our student ministry, I post ten different pieces of content, every single week. And it's all different. Kind of like styles of content. And so if you'd like more info on that, you definitely hop down and grab my free strategy guide. It will lay out how we do it, what we do, and how we capture it, how we batch record.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I also talked about it in my live stream, a lot of different videos on my

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
channel. We'll kind of unpack it. And so I'm not going to, you know, bog you down with that info here on this video, but go, go check it out. Go subscribe. Go listen to some more podcasts and we'll get you covered on what exactly we do.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Moving on to

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
step number three then is shorts are great, and if you don't have any capacity and you need to stop there and, and, you know, bolster your strategy and bolster your infrastructure to make that happen. And by all means do that. But then step three, the eye on the prize for all churches and youth ministries is you want your long form primary teaching content posted to YouTube.

00:10:05:18 - 00:10:18:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
90% of teenagers, according to Pew Research, are on YouTube, and so generation Z and Generation Alpha are landing in and making YouTube home. In

00:10:18:01 - 00:10:18:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
fact,

00:10:18:11 - 00:10:18:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
according to

00:10:18:25 - 00:10:40:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
a book called Meet Gen Alpha by Mccrindle and Fell, they said that YouTube is actually supplanting Google as the number one primary search engine for Generation Alpha. And so you want to be on YouTube, and if you're running your church, social media for, you're like overall church, you probably have some measure, some version of a live stream.

00:10:40:20 - 00:11:13:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's great. Put that on YouTube. If your equipment is good and working, then great. Put that on YouTube. In student ministry, if you have the ability to do that, then go ahead and put that on YouTube and anywhere else you want to put it. But you definitely have to make sure that you put it on YouTube. And then if you don't have anything, which my strategy guide will lay out exactly how we do this in our environment and in our setting, we don't have any live stream equipment, so we actually sit down before the message several weeks ahead of time, pre-record our message using like a teleprompter.

00:11:13:28 - 00:11:33:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, we've built out like a full studio, so like, I can have all that stuff linked down below. You can check out my studio episode, and you can buy any of the stuff that we have that might be helpful for you. And I also have a Patreon where I'm talking about how I implement my hybrid strategy in my, environment every single week.

00:11:33:14 - 00:11:43:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that podcast is $4 a month. It's one extra bonus podcast per week. Plus, literally, I think I throw in a freebie almost every single week. So

00:11:43:13 - 00:11:52:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I believe that that podcast is a very nominal fee for a lot. A lot of value. And so if you want to kind of go all in on this hybrid strategy, I would recommend that.

00:11:52:14 - 00:12:16:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But we sit down, we pre-record it, and then we post those to YouTube trying to answer some of life's hard questions with our titles, with our tags, and even with our thumbnails. And so again, comes for you. I can help you with that. But the goal then is to take your short content and build an audience that eventually promotes and and pushes people over to your in long form content.

00:12:16:08 - 00:12:45:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the that's the Mecca of your social platform. And what that does is that that reduces the anxiety, that reduces the pressure that is on your social channels to communicate your announcements. If your website's doing its job, then you're short form content, both fun and serious, can point to you and promote your long form content, which is serious, which will also then helps to help answer students big questions about life and faith, regardless of if they're in your context or not.

00:12:45:16 - 00:13:03:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
With an eye towards and with the focus on your students or your people in your context, and then like just, you know, a next steps form or some way for them to respond to whatever sort of like message that you have put on YouTube. And what I would recommend again, is that takes us all the way back to number one.

00:13:03:04 - 00:13:26:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure there's a good like digital next steps form, one that's universally used and applied in all of your settings when you're teaching. And then with that link you can just post that in the comments of a YouTube video. And your website is helping serve your holistic hybrid and digital strategy. And that is my three step social media process.

00:13:26:15 - 00:13:27:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Make sure your website's up

00:13:27:17 - 00:13:46:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to date. Lean into shorts. Start producing as many of them as you can that make realistic sense during your week? Just be. Just be consistent with it. Don't have a number in mind. And then all with an eye toward the prize of. Start posting your long form messages to YouTube and and all of that.

00:13:46:09 - 00:14:09:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can help with coaching. I can help by running it for you. I can help on my Patreon. I can help on this channel for free. So give me a subscribe if you would like to hear more about that topic. But until next time and as always, my friends appreciate you being here. Appreciate you trying to communicate in a digital and noisy world, but I want to encourage you to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 139: The Best Communication Method for Your Church https://www.hybridministry.xyz/139 5d93f3a1-30d1-45df-b657-90085fff235f Thu, 06 Mar 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 139 The Best Communication Method for Your Church full Nick Clason Struggling to figure out the best way to communicate with your church? In this episode of *The Hybrid Ministry Show*, Nick Clason breaks down the most effective communication methods for parents, teens, and volunteersโ€”backed by real stats and practical strategies. From email to social media to podcasts, find out how to make sure your church announcements actually reach the right people! 15:56 no ๐Ÿ“Š HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book โœ… CHURCH COMMUNICATIONS DONE FOR YOU https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ====================================== DESCRIPTION Struggling to figure out the best way to communicate with your church? In this episode of The Hybrid Ministry Show, Nick Clason breaks down the most effective communication methods for parents, teens, and volunteersโ€”backed by real stats and practical strategies. 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You know, it's interesting. In my 14 years of youth ministry experience, the first two churches I worked at, they were all about those bulletins. Man, we printed those suckers. Every single week. Interestingly, though, the last two churches I worked at both also post Covid, which I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. 00:00:28:05 - 00:00:51:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Chose not to produce a weekly bulletin. You know, in one of the earlier on churches, there was a week where, like, the secretary was out and somehow I ended up not only producing the bulletin for me, like a graphic like design document standpoint, but then I was also in the office cutting them. And my wife, she called me, said, what are you doing at work still? 00:00:51:16 - 00:01:15:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I was like, I have to cut the bulletin. And as I was doing that, I gave myself this thought. I was like, do teenagers even read this? And now, you know, I was producing this for the rest of the church. But in my mind, and as I was having this conversation with myself, I thought, I don't think that teenagers actually read this, but they're parents, right? 00:01:15:05 - 00:01:36:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's why we produce these things. And so we've been in this series called communication and the Noisy World. Slinked right up here at the top of the screen. And in this video we want to talk about is the particular channels that your churches should be leaning into. We're going to explore three different audiences. We're going to explore the adults in your church. 00:01:36:21 - 00:02:09:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're going to explore the students in your church. And then we're also going to explore the volunteers in your church and or in your ministry. And what I want to do is in each of those, I'm going to give you my favorite communication method and some statistics that back the reasons up for why you should be leaning into those channels and as always, I want to remind you that there are chapters down below or in your podcast catcher, wherever you're listening to this, so that you can hop ahead to the section of this episode that makes the most sense to you in your ministry and the context in which you're serving. 00:02:09:23 - 00:02:34:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and so and in all of my experience of being in youth ministry, when I think about adults that I'm trying to minister to, those adults in particular are either parents or volunteers. And so in this particular section, let's chat about parents. And so these are parents of youth ministry students. 00:02:34:26 - 00:03:07:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, if you're a church communications person or a senior pastor watching this like these, what I'm about to share, I believe, also relates to just adults attending your church in general. Okay. Because what I'm going to say, we're going to talk about the adults in your church, the strategy that I believe that you should employ first and foremost and make your number one like major thing that you double down on, that you pour gas on, that you make work is an email strategy. 00:03:07:10 - 00:03:35:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. Here's a couple of reasons why over 4.3 billion people globally use email. Furthermore, 99% of consumers check their email on a daily basis. This is according to HubSpot, and 73% of millennials and Gen Z, which if you're in youth ministry, those are your parents. And if you're not in youth ministry, those are the future adults of your church. 00:03:35:10 - 00:04:06:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The largest based millennials are the largest in the workforce and the largest opportunity for your your givers. Okay. They prefer email communication from brands at a rate of 73%. This is according to Adobe, so email isn't going anywhere. Now. I also, if you have been watching in the last couple of videos in this playlist, like we link just a second ago, I have been and I've always been my strategy, my hybrid strategy, whether it's for students, parents, whatever. 00:04:06:16 - 00:04:27:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry First and foremost, make sure your website is good and remains up to date. So you want your email to be how you communicate and how you maybe market certain, like classes or events or whatever. But then you want to be able to take them to your website and or you want to send an email because think about user habits. 00:04:27:23 - 00:04:48:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're you're checking your email at lunch or on your work break, okay, on your lunch break at work and you see something from your church. You don't have time right then and there to stop and go sign up, but it jog your memory and you're there. So then you want when someone later just goes to your website because they're thinking, oh yeah, I need to go sign up for that thing after dinner. 00:04:48:06 - 00:05:19:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry When they get home from work, they need to be able to discover that relatively quickly on your church website, even if the email had a link to it, even if they don't follow that link directly. You want your website to be clear and easy to navigate, which is why I continue to recommend nucleus. And also I just want to let you know, like if your website is not exactly up to it, I can create a couple of automated things for you, like updating your church Google calendar which will also naturally update on your website. 00:05:19:24 - 00:05:36:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're interested in something like that, I offer a service called Church Communications done for you. I would love to explore what that looks like to either a build a one time website or be step into some sort of partnership sort of thing. But email is the way to get Ahold of the adults in your church. 00:05:36:07 - 00:06:13:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If if billions of users are using it and 99% of people are checking their email on a daily basis, then you as a church, you have the opportunity to get in front of all of your people, which diminishes the need for those church stage based announcements and diminishes the needs for those church bulletins. Okay, and I'm not necessarily saying that you should toss those things out and not even worry about them anymore, but what I am saying is that your primary strategy should be email and then those other pieces, stage announcements, bulletins, whatever you want to say, even social media. 00:06:14:01 - 00:06:36:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They should all supplement what's going on on email. The second category of people that we're going to talk about here are teenagers, students. Okay. So this is particularly aimed for youth pastors. Once again, if you're not in that then hop down to the chapters below and jump ahead to the next one you need. As a youth pastor, you want to try to get to teenagers phones. 00:06:36:25 - 00:06:55:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now you got to think about this. All teenagers are in a little bit of a different season of life, of adopting usage on their phones. So some of them aren't yet using, like text messaging yet. Right? So that's why I say a little bit more generically. You want to get to their phones because some parents let them have Instagram and some don't. 00:06:55:05 - 00:07:16:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Some parents let them have YouTube and some don't. Some parents let them text certain people and some don't. And so in some ways, somehow we need to get on their cell phones, which is what I'm promoting trying to do by using and utilizing, our hybrid strategy in our in the current student ministry that I serve in, this is our attempt and this is our, our play to get on to students cell phones. 00:07:16:11 - 00:07:31:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so my hybrid strategy is actually linked right down below in the description or on your podcast catcher. I would love to have you check that out. It's completely free, but it helps. It helps give you my strategy and also helps you implement some pieces and parts of that so that you can start trying to get onto their phones. 00:07:32:00 - 00:07:54:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's some reasons why it's valuable and important for us to get to their phones. Because 69% of students of teenagers own a smartphone by the age of 12, according to Common Sense Media, and also 90% according to Pew Research. 90% of teenagers use YouTube, so there's a couple of different ways to get to their phones. Number one, social, okay. 00:07:54:13 - 00:08:26:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And short form vertical based video is still king. Going to vertical in 2024, 90% of the internet's traffic was short form, vertical based video. And so you can employ that short form, vertical based video strategy on Facebook. So I wouldn't recommend that platform necessarily for students or these other through TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. And if TikTok goes ahead and gets banned, you can still employ that that video based strategy by leaning into reels and TikToks and YouTube shorts by cross posting to places like YouTube and Instagram. 00:08:26:15 - 00:08:51:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And there are, you know, there are some TikTok like alternative apps being produced, like a lemonade app. And I don't know if that's going to take or pop, but but maybe go secure your church's handle on it. And then if it does, boom, you're there. And you can continue to employ that strategy. If it takes TikTok's spot, you know, once, like certain things get shook out here with the Congress ban or, you know, whatever is going on with that. 00:08:51:20 - 00:09:10:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the point is that short form, vertical based video while TikTok may not last forever, that strategy right now, that strategy is so, so clutch. And I actually I noticed it last night because here's the thing about that strategy. I was on Instagram and I was scrolling through stories, which are things posted by people that I follow my friends. 00:09:11:05 - 00:09:31:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's a nod back to the social Graph era of friendship based social media. And I was scrolling through and I know friends, whoever I was, I was looking at your stories. I got bored, close it out, hopped into reels which then started showing me popular and like, entertainment based and reels that are actually getting a lot of views. 00:09:31:17 - 00:09:55:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now all of a sudden I was, I was hooked. I was there for a while and that's going from that social graph era over into that discovery based era. And that's where we want to find ourselves in student ministry like we want we can. Here's the thing, though. You can post like a discovery based thing, and you can share that link to your audience so you can post that real on to your story so that all the students who follow you, they still see it. 00:09:55:19 - 00:10:11:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or you can even like yesterday I posted, a YouTube short, also an Instagram reel and a TikTok, and I sent the YouTube short link in our text group and I said, have you answered this crazy? Would you rather question yet? And I sent it to all the kids are sign up in our text group, which is the second. 00:10:11:10 - 00:10:32:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So socials one one way to get to their phones. The second is to get to text messages. All right. And so if you want like blasts I would recommend a service like remind. It's completely free for schools. Or if you want a group chat feature I would recommend a group me both of them listen to me. Both of them have their shortcomings I get it, okay? 00:10:32:11 - 00:10:59:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But it's a great, like, neutralizer. Okay. If you if you have Apple phones and Android phones, GroupMe can put everyone in a group, chat app without, like, the fuss of the blue bubbles and all the things, the compressed pictures that Apple won't allow to come through. Because RCS messaging, even though it's been around since 2007, like it'll do these things where it it will it will create like a level playing field. 00:10:59:01 - 00:11:18:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And you know, if you if your church communications database has some sort of texting service, that you already pay for, then by all means use that. Don't I don't necessarily recommend remind over something like that. Or if you've already dug deep to pay for some sort of texting service and continue to use that, probably better. But that that also goes for when kids are serving. 00:11:18:01 - 00:11:34:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like if you can send them text notifications instead of just email notifications. The goal again is to get to their phones, especially if almost 70% of 12 year olds in on up have smartphones. All right. And so I know you're going to run into because I run into this too. You're going to run into kids who don't have it. 00:11:35:02 - 00:11:59:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you always do have to have a small alternative for a more analog approach. But that's that's widely okay. Right. As we're trying to communicate with teenagers. And then the last area, the last area of ministry is what about your volunteers? What about your leaders? Okay. Now, this may not be, the highest or, like, email is still going to probably be what you're going to use. 00:11:59:02 - 00:12:20:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Just like going back to the, you know, parent adult section of this video, all the stats, all the reasons that's why email still is worthwhile for you volunteers. However, I will say in the last, six months or so, me and my team, me and my boss has started recording a weekly leader podcast. Yes, you heard that right. 00:12:20:10 - 00:12:44:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Weekly. Now we batch record, so we record four at a time. It's about an hour worth of our time. And then it takes me just a minute. Like, really not very long to just edit those suckers into, a YouTube video as well as an audio only podcast. And then we post those every single Monday morning. And so we encourage our leaders to, subscribe to that and listen to it. 00:12:44:27 - 00:13:25:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We try to make it like 15, no more maximum than 15 minutes. Usually they're closer to ten minutes each. And just, we've asked them to adopt that as their normal rhythm on their way to work, on their way on Monday morning to work, habit. And so what what this does is this reduces the pressure around a once a year or a biannual or even a monthly leader meeting to communicate all the big things that we need to communicate, because you know, that you need to, hook them with inspiration, but you also need to tell them, like, boring details like, hey, when you guys are like, checking in, you need to click this 00:13:25:07 - 00:13:43:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry little button here, and you make sure you check in to both of these groups so that our metrics above all, they don't care about that stuff. But the Leader podcast gives you an avenue to share those little snippets of things. It also gives you an avenue to drip culture slowly. And so that's one of the things we've been doing. 00:13:43:02 - 00:14:04:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We've been attempting to make our culture a little more conversational and a little less teaching, and we've just been dripping that slowly on the podcast. And what's so fun is last week I sat down with some of my leaders, we do a yearly leader debrief, and I heard them starting to use some of the language that we've been putting on our leader podcast. 00:14:04:04 - 00:14:26:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In addition to gripping the information and sharing more announcements, we'll do like giveaways, we'll do leader shout outs, we'll share funny stories. And so then every week that that, posts on Monday, there's always the off chance that our leader group chat gets a little flurry of activity around whatever topic happened on the on the podcast or people are, you know, laughing about some of the things that are going on there. 00:14:26:23 - 00:14:49:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So according to Nielsen, the average podcast listener consumed up to seven a week. And so if you have people on your leader teams that are already podcast listeners, that's a super easy one. If not, you can help them adopt it. Or also, again, you can post those, video form to YouTube. YouTube also has a podcast RSS kind of section built into it that you can also use and utilize. 00:14:49:24 - 00:15:21:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so even if they're not podcast adopters, they can still access it via the video. And so with your email strategy for adults, with your get to their phones strategy for students and with your podcast strategy for leaders, then use your stage and your bulletin announcements to really hit hard and to just simply reinforce and point people back not only into those channels, but then also off to your website where they're ultimately going to take their next step, call to action sort of things. 00:15:21:07 - 00:15:42:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in this next video, what I'm going to do is I'm going to help break down why you on social media should be focusing now more because our, our, our, information and our announcements have been taken care of how you should start focusing on engagement as opposed to simply broadcasting information. That video is going to be linked right here on screen. 00:15:42:05 - 00:15:49:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you're watching on YouTube, go ahead and tap that. We'd love to see you over there. But until next time. 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Struggling to figure out the best way to communicate with your church? In this episode of The Hybrid Ministry Show, Nick Clason breaks down the most effective communication methods for parents, teens, and volunteersโ€”backed by real stats and practical strategies. From email to social media to podcasts, find out how to make sure your church announcements actually reach the right people!

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02:14 Adult or Parent Communication Strategy
06:19 Student Communication Strategy
11:48 Volunteer Communication Strategy

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:28:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like if your church still produces a bulletin and give me a subscribe if it's completely quit producing a bulletin. You know, it's interesting. In my 14 years of youth ministry experience, the first two churches I worked at, they were all about those bulletins. Man, we printed those suckers. Every single week. Interestingly, though, the last two churches I worked at both also post Covid, which I'm wondering if that has something to do with it.

00:00:28:05 - 00:00:51:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Chose not to produce a weekly bulletin. You know, in one of the earlier on churches, there was a week where, like, the secretary was out and somehow I ended up not only producing the bulletin for me, like a graphic like design document standpoint, but then I was also in the office cutting them. And my wife, she called me, said, what are you doing at work still?

00:00:51:16 - 00:01:15:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I was like, I have to cut the bulletin. And as I was doing that, I gave myself this thought. I was like, do teenagers even read this? And now, you know, I was producing this for the rest of the church. But in my mind, and as I was having this conversation with myself, I thought, I don't think that teenagers actually read this, but they're parents, right?

00:01:15:05 - 00:01:36:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why we produce these things. And so we've been in this series called communication and the Noisy World. Slinked right up here at the top of the screen. And in this video we want to talk about is the particular channels that your churches should be leaning into. We're going to explore three different audiences. We're going to explore the adults in your church.

00:01:36:21 - 00:02:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to explore the students in your church. And then we're also going to explore the volunteers in your church and or in your ministry. And what I want to do is in each of those, I'm going to give you my favorite communication method and some statistics that back the reasons up for why you should be leaning into those channels and as always, I want to remind you that there are chapters down below or in your podcast catcher, wherever you're listening to this, so that you can hop ahead to the section of this episode that makes the most sense to you in your ministry and the context in which you're serving.

00:02:09:23 - 00:02:34:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and so and in all of my experience of being in youth ministry, when I think about adults that I'm trying to minister to, those adults in particular are either parents or volunteers. And so in this particular section, let's chat about parents. And so these are parents of youth ministry students.

00:02:34:26 - 00:03:07:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, if you're a church communications person or a senior pastor watching this like these, what I'm about to share, I believe, also relates to just adults attending your church in general. Okay. Because what I'm going to say, we're going to talk about the adults in your church, the strategy that I believe that you should employ first and foremost and make your number one like major thing that you double down on, that you pour gas on, that you make work is an email strategy.

00:03:07:10 - 00:03:35:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. Here's a couple of reasons why over 4.3 billion people globally use email. Furthermore, 99% of consumers check their email on a daily basis. This is according to HubSpot, and 73% of millennials and Gen Z, which if you're in youth ministry, those are your parents. And if you're not in youth ministry, those are the future adults of your church.

00:03:35:10 - 00:04:06:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The largest based millennials are the largest in the workforce and the largest opportunity for your your givers. Okay. They prefer email communication from brands at a rate of 73%. This is according to Adobe, so email isn't going anywhere. Now. I also, if you have been watching in the last couple of videos in this playlist, like we link just a second ago, I have been and I've always been my strategy, my hybrid strategy, whether it's for students, parents, whatever.

00:04:06:16 - 00:04:27:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
First and foremost, make sure your website is good and remains up to date. So you want your email to be how you communicate and how you maybe market certain, like classes or events or whatever. But then you want to be able to take them to your website and or you want to send an email because think about user habits.

00:04:27:23 - 00:04:48:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're you're checking your email at lunch or on your work break, okay, on your lunch break at work and you see something from your church. You don't have time right then and there to stop and go sign up, but it jog your memory and you're there. So then you want when someone later just goes to your website because they're thinking, oh yeah, I need to go sign up for that thing after dinner.

00:04:48:06 - 00:05:19:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When they get home from work, they need to be able to discover that relatively quickly on your church website, even if the email had a link to it, even if they don't follow that link directly. You want your website to be clear and easy to navigate, which is why I continue to recommend nucleus. And also I just want to let you know, like if your website is not exactly up to it, I can create a couple of automated things for you, like updating your church Google calendar which will also naturally update on your website.

00:05:19:24 - 00:05:36:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're interested in something like that, I offer a service called Church Communications done for you. I would love to explore what that looks like to either a build a one time website or be step into some sort of partnership sort of thing. But email is the way to get Ahold of the adults in your church.

00:05:36:07 - 00:06:13:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If if billions of users are using it and 99% of people are checking their email on a daily basis, then you as a church, you have the opportunity to get in front of all of your people, which diminishes the need for those church stage based announcements and diminishes the needs for those church bulletins. Okay, and I'm not necessarily saying that you should toss those things out and not even worry about them anymore, but what I am saying is that your primary strategy should be email and then those other pieces, stage announcements, bulletins, whatever you want to say, even social media.

00:06:14:01 - 00:06:36:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They should all supplement what's going on on email. The second category of people that we're going to talk about here are teenagers, students. Okay. So this is particularly aimed for youth pastors. Once again, if you're not in that then hop down to the chapters below and jump ahead to the next one you need. As a youth pastor, you want to try to get to teenagers phones.

00:06:36:25 - 00:06:55:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now you got to think about this. All teenagers are in a little bit of a different season of life, of adopting usage on their phones. So some of them aren't yet using, like text messaging yet. Right? So that's why I say a little bit more generically. You want to get to their phones because some parents let them have Instagram and some don't.

00:06:55:05 - 00:07:16:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Some parents let them have YouTube and some don't. Some parents let them text certain people and some don't. And so in some ways, somehow we need to get on their cell phones, which is what I'm promoting trying to do by using and utilizing, our hybrid strategy in our in the current student ministry that I serve in, this is our attempt and this is our, our play to get on to students cell phones.

00:07:16:11 - 00:07:31:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so my hybrid strategy is actually linked right down below in the description or on your podcast catcher. I would love to have you check that out. It's completely free, but it helps. It helps give you my strategy and also helps you implement some pieces and parts of that so that you can start trying to get onto their phones.

00:07:32:00 - 00:07:54:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's some reasons why it's valuable and important for us to get to their phones. Because 69% of students of teenagers own a smartphone by the age of 12, according to Common Sense Media, and also 90% according to Pew Research. 90% of teenagers use YouTube, so there's a couple of different ways to get to their phones. Number one, social, okay.

00:07:54:13 - 00:08:26:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And short form vertical based video is still king. Going to vertical in 2024, 90% of the internet's traffic was short form, vertical based video. And so you can employ that short form, vertical based video strategy on Facebook. So I wouldn't recommend that platform necessarily for students or these other through TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. And if TikTok goes ahead and gets banned, you can still employ that that video based strategy by leaning into reels and TikToks and YouTube shorts by cross posting to places like YouTube and Instagram.

00:08:26:15 - 00:08:51:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there are, you know, there are some TikTok like alternative apps being produced, like a lemonade app. And I don't know if that's going to take or pop, but but maybe go secure your church's handle on it. And then if it does, boom, you're there. And you can continue to employ that strategy. If it takes TikTok's spot, you know, once, like certain things get shook out here with the Congress ban or, you know, whatever is going on with that.

00:08:51:20 - 00:09:10:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the point is that short form, vertical based video while TikTok may not last forever, that strategy right now, that strategy is so, so clutch. And I actually I noticed it last night because here's the thing about that strategy. I was on Instagram and I was scrolling through stories, which are things posted by people that I follow my friends.

00:09:11:05 - 00:09:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a nod back to the social Graph era of friendship based social media. And I was scrolling through and I know friends, whoever I was, I was looking at your stories. I got bored, close it out, hopped into reels which then started showing me popular and like, entertainment based and reels that are actually getting a lot of views.

00:09:31:17 - 00:09:55:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now all of a sudden I was, I was hooked. I was there for a while and that's going from that social graph era over into that discovery based era. And that's where we want to find ourselves in student ministry like we want we can. Here's the thing, though. You can post like a discovery based thing, and you can share that link to your audience so you can post that real on to your story so that all the students who follow you, they still see it.

00:09:55:19 - 00:10:11:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or you can even like yesterday I posted, a YouTube short, also an Instagram reel and a TikTok, and I sent the YouTube short link in our text group and I said, have you answered this crazy? Would you rather question yet? And I sent it to all the kids are sign up in our text group, which is the second.

00:10:11:10 - 00:10:32:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So socials one one way to get to their phones. The second is to get to text messages. All right. And so if you want like blasts I would recommend a service like remind. It's completely free for schools. Or if you want a group chat feature I would recommend a group me both of them listen to me. Both of them have their shortcomings I get it, okay?

00:10:32:11 - 00:10:59:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it's a great, like, neutralizer. Okay. If you if you have Apple phones and Android phones, GroupMe can put everyone in a group, chat app without, like, the fuss of the blue bubbles and all the things, the compressed pictures that Apple won't allow to come through. Because RCS messaging, even though it's been around since 2007, like it'll do these things where it it will it will create like a level playing field.

00:10:59:01 - 00:11:18:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And you know, if you if your church communications database has some sort of texting service, that you already pay for, then by all means use that. Don't I don't necessarily recommend remind over something like that. Or if you've already dug deep to pay for some sort of texting service and continue to use that, probably better. But that that also goes for when kids are serving.

00:11:18:01 - 00:11:34:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like if you can send them text notifications instead of just email notifications. The goal again is to get to their phones, especially if almost 70% of 12 year olds in on up have smartphones. All right. And so I know you're going to run into because I run into this too. You're going to run into kids who don't have it.

00:11:35:02 - 00:11:59:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you always do have to have a small alternative for a more analog approach. But that's that's widely okay. Right. As we're trying to communicate with teenagers. And then the last area, the last area of ministry is what about your volunteers? What about your leaders? Okay. Now, this may not be, the highest or, like, email is still going to probably be what you're going to use.

00:11:59:02 - 00:12:20:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Just like going back to the, you know, parent adult section of this video, all the stats, all the reasons that's why email still is worthwhile for you volunteers. However, I will say in the last, six months or so, me and my team, me and my boss has started recording a weekly leader podcast. Yes, you heard that right.

00:12:20:10 - 00:12:44:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Weekly. Now we batch record, so we record four at a time. It's about an hour worth of our time. And then it takes me just a minute. Like, really not very long to just edit those suckers into, a YouTube video as well as an audio only podcast. And then we post those every single Monday morning. And so we encourage our leaders to, subscribe to that and listen to it.

00:12:44:27 - 00:13:25:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We try to make it like 15, no more maximum than 15 minutes. Usually they're closer to ten minutes each. And just, we've asked them to adopt that as their normal rhythm on their way to work, on their way on Monday morning to work, habit. And so what what this does is this reduces the pressure around a once a year or a biannual or even a monthly leader meeting to communicate all the big things that we need to communicate, because you know, that you need to, hook them with inspiration, but you also need to tell them, like, boring details like, hey, when you guys are like, checking in, you need to click this

00:13:25:07 - 00:13:43:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
little button here, and you make sure you check in to both of these groups so that our metrics above all, they don't care about that stuff. But the Leader podcast gives you an avenue to share those little snippets of things. It also gives you an avenue to drip culture slowly. And so that's one of the things we've been doing.

00:13:43:02 - 00:14:04:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've been attempting to make our culture a little more conversational and a little less teaching, and we've just been dripping that slowly on the podcast. And what's so fun is last week I sat down with some of my leaders, we do a yearly leader debrief, and I heard them starting to use some of the language that we've been putting on our leader podcast.

00:14:04:04 - 00:14:26:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In addition to gripping the information and sharing more announcements, we'll do like giveaways, we'll do leader shout outs, we'll share funny stories. And so then every week that that, posts on Monday, there's always the off chance that our leader group chat gets a little flurry of activity around whatever topic happened on the on the podcast or people are, you know, laughing about some of the things that are going on there.

00:14:26:23 - 00:14:49:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So according to Nielsen, the average podcast listener consumed up to seven a week. And so if you have people on your leader teams that are already podcast listeners, that's a super easy one. If not, you can help them adopt it. Or also, again, you can post those, video form to YouTube. YouTube also has a podcast RSS kind of section built into it that you can also use and utilize.

00:14:49:24 - 00:15:21:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so even if they're not podcast adopters, they can still access it via the video. And so with your email strategy for adults, with your get to their phones strategy for students and with your podcast strategy for leaders, then use your stage and your bulletin announcements to really hit hard and to just simply reinforce and point people back not only into those channels, but then also off to your website where they're ultimately going to take their next step, call to action sort of things.

00:15:21:07 - 00:15:42:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this next video, what I'm going to do is I'm going to help break down why you on social media should be focusing now more because our, our, our, information and our announcements have been taken care of how you should start focusing on engagement as opposed to simply broadcasting information. That video is going to be linked right here on screen.

00:15:42:05 - 00:15:49:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:05 - 00:00:28:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like if your church still produces a bulletin and give me a subscribe if it's completely quit producing a bulletin. You know, it's interesting. In my 14 years of youth ministry experience, the first two churches I worked at, they were all about those bulletins. Man, we printed those suckers. Every single week. Interestingly, though, the last two churches I worked at both also post Covid, which I'm wondering if that has something to do with it.

00:00:28:05 - 00:00:51:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Chose not to produce a weekly bulletin. You know, in one of the earlier on churches, there was a week where, like, the secretary was out and somehow I ended up not only producing the bulletin for me, like a graphic like design document standpoint, but then I was also in the office cutting them. And my wife, she called me, said, what are you doing at work still?

00:00:51:16 - 00:01:15:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I was like, I have to cut the bulletin. And as I was doing that, I gave myself this thought. I was like, do teenagers even read this? And now, you know, I was producing this for the rest of the church. But in my mind, and as I was having this conversation with myself, I thought, I don't think that teenagers actually read this, but they're parents, right?

00:01:15:05 - 00:01:36:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why we produce these things. And so we've been in this series called communication and the Noisy World. Slinked right up here at the top of the screen. And in this video we want to talk about is the particular channels that your churches should be leaning into. We're going to explore three different audiences. We're going to explore the adults in your church.

00:01:36:21 - 00:02:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to explore the students in your church. And then we're also going to explore the volunteers in your church and or in your ministry. And what I want to do is in each of those, I'm going to give you my favorite communication method and some statistics that back the reasons up for why you should be leaning into those channels and as always, I want to remind you that there are chapters down below or in your podcast catcher, wherever you're listening to this, so that you can hop ahead to the section of this episode that makes the most sense to you in your ministry and the context in which you're serving.

00:02:09:23 - 00:02:34:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome, everybody, to the Hybrid Ministry show. So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and so and in all of my experience of being in youth ministry, when I think about adults that I'm trying to minister to, those adults in particular are either parents or volunteers. And so in this particular section, let's chat about parents. And so these are parents of youth ministry students.

00:02:34:26 - 00:03:07:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, if you're a church communications person or a senior pastor watching this like these, what I'm about to share, I believe, also relates to just adults attending your church in general. Okay. Because what I'm going to say, we're going to talk about the adults in your church, the strategy that I believe that you should employ first and foremost and make your number one like major thing that you double down on, that you pour gas on, that you make work is an email strategy.

00:03:07:10 - 00:03:35:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. Here's a couple of reasons why over 4.3 billion people globally use email. Furthermore, 99% of consumers check their email on a daily basis. This is according to HubSpot, and 73% of millennials and Gen Z, which if you're in youth ministry, those are your parents. And if you're not in youth ministry, those are the future adults of your church.

00:03:35:10 - 00:04:06:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The largest based millennials are the largest in the workforce and the largest opportunity for your your givers. Okay. They prefer email communication from brands at a rate of 73%. This is according to Adobe, so email isn't going anywhere. Now. I also, if you have been watching in the last couple of videos in this playlist, like we link just a second ago, I have been and I've always been my strategy, my hybrid strategy, whether it's for students, parents, whatever.

00:04:06:16 - 00:04:27:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
First and foremost, make sure your website is good and remains up to date. So you want your email to be how you communicate and how you maybe market certain, like classes or events or whatever. But then you want to be able to take them to your website and or you want to send an email because think about user habits.

00:04:27:23 - 00:04:48:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're you're checking your email at lunch or on your work break, okay, on your lunch break at work and you see something from your church. You don't have time right then and there to stop and go sign up, but it jog your memory and you're there. So then you want when someone later just goes to your website because they're thinking, oh yeah, I need to go sign up for that thing after dinner.

00:04:48:06 - 00:05:19:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When they get home from work, they need to be able to discover that relatively quickly on your church website, even if the email had a link to it, even if they don't follow that link directly. You want your website to be clear and easy to navigate, which is why I continue to recommend nucleus. And also I just want to let you know, like if your website is not exactly up to it, I can create a couple of automated things for you, like updating your church Google calendar which will also naturally update on your website.

00:05:19:24 - 00:05:36:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're interested in something like that, I offer a service called Church Communications done for you. I would love to explore what that looks like to either a build a one time website or be step into some sort of partnership sort of thing. But email is the way to get Ahold of the adults in your church.

00:05:36:07 - 00:06:13:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If if billions of users are using it and 99% of people are checking their email on a daily basis, then you as a church, you have the opportunity to get in front of all of your people, which diminishes the need for those church stage based announcements and diminishes the needs for those church bulletins. Okay, and I'm not necessarily saying that you should toss those things out and not even worry about them anymore, but what I am saying is that your primary strategy should be email and then those other pieces, stage announcements, bulletins, whatever you want to say, even social media.

00:06:14:01 - 00:06:36:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They should all supplement what's going on on email. The second category of people that we're going to talk about here are teenagers, students. Okay. So this is particularly aimed for youth pastors. Once again, if you're not in that then hop down to the chapters below and jump ahead to the next one you need. As a youth pastor, you want to try to get to teenagers phones.

00:06:36:25 - 00:06:55:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now you got to think about this. All teenagers are in a little bit of a different season of life, of adopting usage on their phones. So some of them aren't yet using, like text messaging yet. Right? So that's why I say a little bit more generically. You want to get to their phones because some parents let them have Instagram and some don't.

00:06:55:05 - 00:07:16:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Some parents let them have YouTube and some don't. Some parents let them text certain people and some don't. And so in some ways, somehow we need to get on their cell phones, which is what I'm promoting trying to do by using and utilizing, our hybrid strategy in our in the current student ministry that I serve in, this is our attempt and this is our, our play to get on to students cell phones.

00:07:16:11 - 00:07:31:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so my hybrid strategy is actually linked right down below in the description or on your podcast catcher. I would love to have you check that out. It's completely free, but it helps. It helps give you my strategy and also helps you implement some pieces and parts of that so that you can start trying to get onto their phones.

00:07:32:00 - 00:07:54:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's some reasons why it's valuable and important for us to get to their phones. Because 69% of students of teenagers own a smartphone by the age of 12, according to Common Sense Media, and also 90% according to Pew Research. 90% of teenagers use YouTube, so there's a couple of different ways to get to their phones. Number one, social, okay.

00:07:54:13 - 00:08:26:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And short form vertical based video is still king. Going to vertical in 2024, 90% of the internet's traffic was short form, vertical based video. And so you can employ that short form, vertical based video strategy on Facebook. So I wouldn't recommend that platform necessarily for students or these other through TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. And if TikTok goes ahead and gets banned, you can still employ that that video based strategy by leaning into reels and TikToks and YouTube shorts by cross posting to places like YouTube and Instagram.

00:08:26:15 - 00:08:51:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And there are, you know, there are some TikTok like alternative apps being produced, like a lemonade app. And I don't know if that's going to take or pop, but but maybe go secure your church's handle on it. And then if it does, boom, you're there. And you can continue to employ that strategy. If it takes TikTok's spot, you know, once, like certain things get shook out here with the Congress ban or, you know, whatever is going on with that.

00:08:51:20 - 00:09:10:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the point is that short form, vertical based video while TikTok may not last forever, that strategy right now, that strategy is so, so clutch. And I actually I noticed it last night because here's the thing about that strategy. I was on Instagram and I was scrolling through stories, which are things posted by people that I follow my friends.

00:09:11:05 - 00:09:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a nod back to the social Graph era of friendship based social media. And I was scrolling through and I know friends, whoever I was, I was looking at your stories. I got bored, close it out, hopped into reels which then started showing me popular and like, entertainment based and reels that are actually getting a lot of views.

00:09:31:17 - 00:09:55:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now all of a sudden I was, I was hooked. I was there for a while and that's going from that social graph era over into that discovery based era. And that's where we want to find ourselves in student ministry like we want we can. Here's the thing, though. You can post like a discovery based thing, and you can share that link to your audience so you can post that real on to your story so that all the students who follow you, they still see it.

00:09:55:19 - 00:10:11:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or you can even like yesterday I posted, a YouTube short, also an Instagram reel and a TikTok, and I sent the YouTube short link in our text group and I said, have you answered this crazy? Would you rather question yet? And I sent it to all the kids are sign up in our text group, which is the second.

00:10:11:10 - 00:10:32:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So socials one one way to get to their phones. The second is to get to text messages. All right. And so if you want like blasts I would recommend a service like remind. It's completely free for schools. Or if you want a group chat feature I would recommend a group me both of them listen to me. Both of them have their shortcomings I get it, okay?

00:10:32:11 - 00:10:59:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it's a great, like, neutralizer. Okay. If you if you have Apple phones and Android phones, GroupMe can put everyone in a group, chat app without, like, the fuss of the blue bubbles and all the things, the compressed pictures that Apple won't allow to come through. Because RCS messaging, even though it's been around since 2007, like it'll do these things where it it will it will create like a level playing field.

00:10:59:01 - 00:11:18:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And you know, if you if your church communications database has some sort of texting service, that you already pay for, then by all means use that. Don't I don't necessarily recommend remind over something like that. Or if you've already dug deep to pay for some sort of texting service and continue to use that, probably better. But that that also goes for when kids are serving.

00:11:18:01 - 00:11:34:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like if you can send them text notifications instead of just email notifications. The goal again is to get to their phones, especially if almost 70% of 12 year olds in on up have smartphones. All right. And so I know you're going to run into because I run into this too. You're going to run into kids who don't have it.

00:11:35:02 - 00:11:59:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you always do have to have a small alternative for a more analog approach. But that's that's widely okay. Right. As we're trying to communicate with teenagers. And then the last area, the last area of ministry is what about your volunteers? What about your leaders? Okay. Now, this may not be, the highest or, like, email is still going to probably be what you're going to use.

00:11:59:02 - 00:12:20:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Just like going back to the, you know, parent adult section of this video, all the stats, all the reasons that's why email still is worthwhile for you volunteers. However, I will say in the last, six months or so, me and my team, me and my boss has started recording a weekly leader podcast. Yes, you heard that right.

00:12:20:10 - 00:12:44:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Weekly. Now we batch record, so we record four at a time. It's about an hour worth of our time. And then it takes me just a minute. Like, really not very long to just edit those suckers into, a YouTube video as well as an audio only podcast. And then we post those every single Monday morning. And so we encourage our leaders to, subscribe to that and listen to it.

00:12:44:27 - 00:13:25:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We try to make it like 15, no more maximum than 15 minutes. Usually they're closer to ten minutes each. And just, we've asked them to adopt that as their normal rhythm on their way to work, on their way on Monday morning to work, habit. And so what what this does is this reduces the pressure around a once a year or a biannual or even a monthly leader meeting to communicate all the big things that we need to communicate, because you know, that you need to, hook them with inspiration, but you also need to tell them, like, boring details like, hey, when you guys are like, checking in, you need to click this

00:13:25:07 - 00:13:43:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
little button here, and you make sure you check in to both of these groups so that our metrics above all, they don't care about that stuff. But the Leader podcast gives you an avenue to share those little snippets of things. It also gives you an avenue to drip culture slowly. And so that's one of the things we've been doing.

00:13:43:02 - 00:14:04:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've been attempting to make our culture a little more conversational and a little less teaching, and we've just been dripping that slowly on the podcast. And what's so fun is last week I sat down with some of my leaders, we do a yearly leader debrief, and I heard them starting to use some of the language that we've been putting on our leader podcast.

00:14:04:04 - 00:14:26:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In addition to gripping the information and sharing more announcements, we'll do like giveaways, we'll do leader shout outs, we'll share funny stories. And so then every week that that, posts on Monday, there's always the off chance that our leader group chat gets a little flurry of activity around whatever topic happened on the on the podcast or people are, you know, laughing about some of the things that are going on there.

00:14:26:23 - 00:14:49:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So according to Nielsen, the average podcast listener consumed up to seven a week. And so if you have people on your leader teams that are already podcast listeners, that's a super easy one. If not, you can help them adopt it. Or also, again, you can post those, video form to YouTube. YouTube also has a podcast RSS kind of section built into it that you can also use and utilize.

00:14:49:24 - 00:15:21:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so even if they're not podcast adopters, they can still access it via the video. And so with your email strategy for adults, with your get to their phones strategy for students and with your podcast strategy for leaders, then use your stage and your bulletin announcements to really hit hard and to just simply reinforce and point people back not only into those channels, but then also off to your website where they're ultimately going to take their next step, call to action sort of things.

00:15:21:07 - 00:15:42:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this next video, what I'm going to do is I'm going to help break down why you on social media should be focusing now more because our, our, our, information and our announcements have been taken care of how you should start focusing on engagement as opposed to simply broadcasting information. That video is going to be linked right here on screen.

00:15:42:05 - 00:15:49:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're watching on YouTube, go ahead and tap that. We'd love to see you over there. But until next time. And as always, my friends, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 138: Steal this Clearer (& Less Boring) Church Announcement Strategy https://www.hybridministry.xyz/138 ed99a3cf-1c5c-4d49-b761-fb16bc75aa7c Thu, 27 Feb 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 138 Steal this Clearer (& Less Boring) Church Announcement Strategy full Nick Clason Tired of your church announcements being ignored? In this episode of the *Hybrid Ministry Podcast*, weโ€™ll show you how to create clearer and less boring announcements using three practical hacks: reduce your CTAs, centralize next steps, and inspire over inform. Stop overwhelming your audience with noiseโ€”learn how to simplify your messaging, engage your community, and make your announcements impossible to miss. 19:51 no ๐Ÿ“Š HYBRID STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book โœ… CHURCH COMMUNICATIONS DONE FOR YOU https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms ====================================== DESCRIPTION Tired of your church announcements being ignored? In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Podcast, weโ€™ll show you how to create clearer and less boring announcements using three practical hacks: reduce your CTAs, centralize next steps, and inspire over inform. 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Because you've been announcing your event for several weeks, maybe even months now at this point. And give me a like, if this has ever happened to you, you get that text from that student or that church member that said, when is the event again? 00:00:21:38 - 00:00:27:51 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or is it too late to sign up? Or when are we supposed to be there again? And you just want to pull 00:00:28:33 - 00:00:29:51 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry your hair out? But like we talked 00:00:29:51 - 00:00:30:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry about in the 00:00:30:13 - 00:00:30:40 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry last 00:00:30:40 - 00:00:41:39 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry video partying on, he has this concept called inadvertent blindness. And what he's really saying with that is he says, we really only see what we're looking for. 00:00:41:44 - 00:00:42:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in 00:00:42:09 - 00:00:42:34 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this 00:00:42:34 - 00:00:42:58 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry video, 00:00:42:58 - 00:01:08:50 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry how do we have clearer and less boring church announcements, ones that are actually going to, incite inspiration and not just one where you're only simply disseminating information? So in this video, what I want to do is I want to share with you the myth about church communications and church announcements. I want to share with you three hacks that will help you have clearer and better and less boring church announcements. 00:01:08:54 - 00:01:33:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm also going to share with you the ultimate church decision making grid. How do you announce what you announce so that the best and most relevant announcements are the ones that are being said from the stage and from the platform, and from the areas and the channels that you want to be saying them from. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a bonus hack that may in fact change everything. 00:01:33:18 - 00:01:38:50 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as always, if you're watching here on YouTube or wherever you're listening in the podcast catcher, there are chapters 00:01:38:50 - 00:01:56:40 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the areas of the video that make the most sense to you. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So what's the myth? Okay, the myth is this. The myth is that people don't come to your church function, your church thing. 00:01:56:44 - 00:02:24:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We assume that they're not coming to the thing because they don't know about the thing. And so therefore, what do we do? We share more information about the thing. Oh, well, it's actually at seven and we're going to have this and we're going to put it in the fellowship hall, like, and we just give them more and more boring details about it, assuming that those boring details about it are going to be what's going to help them overcome their in in the action and misinformation and get them to that event. 00:02:24:17 - 00:02:41:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's not why they're not coming. They're not coming because they don't care about it. They're not coming because they're busy and they have a schedule conflict. They're not coming because your thing is not the most important thing in their life. Sorry. Like, I hate like I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to say that to you in a way that's demeaning. 00:02:41:17 - 00:03:16:35 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like, your thing is not as important as you think your thing is. And so the reason why people don't come to church events is not because they're missing information. But as we talked about in the last episode, credit to Brady Shear for this analogy is we got to start thinking more like movie trailers, right? So a movie trailer moves people towards inspiration, and they try to incite curiosity in such a way that when they see that movie trailer, they're like, I have to go and they'll move heaven and earth and they'll find the tickets and they'll find the theater, and they'll get to that event of their own accord. 00:03:16:39 - 00:03:36:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our church events. First of all, we're not able to compete in a lot of times with movie trailers. Like I get it right, but we we result and we, you know, get our church announcements to a spot where we think we just need to share more information. What time, what date. And like those are really boring church announcements. 00:03:36:23 - 00:03:57:55 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the more information that you share in that church announcement, again, we're assuming the myth is we're assuming they don't have enough information, so we'll just give them more information, when in fact, what you actually need to do is you need to inspire them. You need to move them to action through inspiration, through storytelling, through captivation of their senses and their imagination. 00:03:57:55 - 00:04:18:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you're like, dude, I'm a youth pastor. I'm a church secretary, I'm a senior pastor. I can't do any of that. And like, I get it, these are not skills that we often refine or hone in on our own. They're not disciplines that that we have maybe necessarily been been, you know, given or taught in like a seminary degree or whatever the case may be. 00:04:18:22 - 00:04:42:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in this world with over information and with this noisy world, like, that's what we're competing. See, so like this, these, this myth. Right? This myth is the reason why, posting your announcements to social media is a bad idea because, again, this myth helps us think, oh, we need to put this information out there on the internet. 00:04:42:25 - 00:04:58:40 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We need to let them know when and where and how much dice to bring to the bunker. And I and which fellowship hall we're going to be in, like people again, they're not getting on social media for more information for information download. And if they are, I'm going to tell you where you should put that information because you should include it. 00:04:58:40 - 00:05:18:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. But and we'll get to that in a second. But they're not getting on social for that. They're getting a social once again for in from Earth, not for information for inspiration and and maybe even for some humor and maybe for some entertainment. And so that's actually what I sort of push towards in my free strategy guide, which is going to be link down below. 00:05:18:26 - 00:05:39:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you haven't grabbed it, go ahead and grab it. It is, like I said, it's completely free, but it'll help lay out in detail what I do to kind of live this hybrid version of ministry and what I do on social media. But if that's not what they're looking for, and if our announcements are chock full of too much information and not enough inspiration, then what should we do instead? 00:05:39:29 - 00:06:03:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm glad you asked. That's where these three hacks are going to come in. Okay, so hack number one is reduce your CTAs, CTAs is an acronym. And it sure. It's a marketing word for reduce your calls to action. So a call to action is what you're actually asking someone to do as a result of the information. You have a bunco night. 00:06:03:36 - 00:06:27:42 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you want them to sign up for the bunco night, right. But oftentimes we're stacking multiple call to actions. Okay. So in an announcement moment in your church, we often get up there and everyone gets an opportunity that the kids in the youth and the women and the men's and then the whole church picnic, and there's just there's too many different things. 00:06:27:42 - 00:07:02:56 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, too much thing, too many things that can cause somebody brain to get overwhelmed, psychologically speaking. And therefore, instead of promoting action, it does the exact opposite. It causes paralysis and it promotes inaction. In fact, Simon Sinek, he shared this story of the salesman who was a shoe salesman, and the shoe salesman said he learned the key to selling shoes, and the key to selling shoes was anytime he would have, a person trying on shoes and he had three shoe options, they would always say no. 00:07:03:01 - 00:07:17:56 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But when he reduced it to simply just two options, right? Reducing the call to actions when he would reduce it down to just two options. And so if they had three, he would and they're like, they had two. And they're like, let me see this pair. He would say, which one of these do you want me to take away? 00:07:18:01 - 00:07:36:32 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They would remove one. He would take one away. And then that he'd bring the new pair in, and then there would be two new sets of shoes. And then he would say, which of these do you want, A or B, as opposed to which of these you want A, B or C? And he said when he had two options, he always sold. 00:07:36:32 - 00:08:02:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry When he had three they would walk away. And so the same is true in our church announcements. You your assumption and it's a faulty one. But your assumption now hates it is that the more you offer on the stage, the the better it's going to be for your church and for your people. And let's be honest, if you work on a church staff, there's the pressure of getting everyone's announcement equal airtime. 00:08:02:16 - 00:08:20:35 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so again, we're going to talk about the decision making grid of how you come to those decisions. But you need to reduce your call to actions on your stage. What do you really want the people in your auditorium in your service? What do you really want them to do? And everything else? We're going to find another way. 00:08:20:39 - 00:08:39:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're going to find another avenue to promote it. And you might be thinking, yeah, but you just told me, I can't put that on social. And you're right. I did say that again. We'll get to it. But reduce your calls to action. And then within that okay. So reduce the number of announcements that you're sharing. But within that simplify see where they go. 00:08:39:17 - 00:09:06:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which leads me to my second hack. Centralize everything on your website. And now you might be thinking and even assuming that you're doing that. But again credit to Brady Scheer of that pro church tools, his announcement strategy, his church website strategy, and his church website builder, which if you don't have a good church website and you want one that's good and actually easy to put together, I recommend nucleus Dot church. 00:09:06:06 - 00:09:29:56 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry His whole goal with it is to get everyone to the same centralized location. And so when you give an announcement, then people are and an announcement that's inspiring. And that one that's chock full of information. So a good announcement about a, you know, story of life change at the last women's bunco night and then someone sitting there like, I need to get to the bunco night. 00:09:29:56 - 00:09:51:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But when is it? Where is it? Like they go to the website, and the website has all of the information that they're looking for. Your announcements will be better if your website can supply them with the information that they're looking for. Because again, like I said in the last video, which is linked right up here at the top of the screen, if you're watching here on YouTube, I so we operate in a cable TV mentality. 00:09:51:29 - 00:10:22:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In order to come to the bunker, you need all this information. You need the when, the where, the why, the what, but in what. People aren't living mindset wise that way they're living in a Netflix culture. And so they're like, oh, my church has a bunco night. When is that again? And they're thinking about that, on a Thursday at 4 p.m. and so on a Thursday at 4 p.m., they need to be able to go to your church website and get all the information that they're looking for, as opposed to relying on you in the moment on Sunday to get to church. 00:10:22:27 - 00:10:45:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Bunco night information, which they're not interested in at that moment, but they may be interested later. And so you if you catch them and hook them with inspiration, they'll want to go and then later in this Netflix culture, they'll go on demand and they'll go get it on your church website, which if you're hearing this and you're like, wow, okay, so we need to overhaul our church website. 00:10:45:27 - 00:11:05:56 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That may be the case. And you may be right. And you know what? I can offer that for you. I have a service called Church Communications done for you. You don't have enough time to kind of overhaul your social media strategy on your church website. I would encourage you to take a look at the link below. I'd love to offer that to you, and we can explore what that might look like for us to walk into a partnership together. 00:11:05:56 - 00:11:39:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because I want you to win, and I want more people to come to your church bunco night. But again, the third hack then, is, as we've been talking about, kind of in this whole video, right? Aim to inspire over inform, aim to inspire over and form a sort of been the basis of this whole video. But once again, and here I want to point out like here's what the dictionary.com definition of inspires, really, it's to fill someone with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative. 00:11:39:21 - 00:12:07:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so a video, if you're watching here on YouTube, like this is one of my transition style videos that we do for social media. Might not seem inspiring to you, right? However, imagine a person stumbling upon it on social media because they can stumble upon your videos like this on social media. Which of these do you think performs better, this video or this standard static announcement graphic that you cooked up in Canva? 00:12:07:17 - 00:12:33:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Which is why down below I have my social transition video pack, the ones that I recommend. I have six of those plus six cap cut meme style videos. Go ahead, download those and then start using and posting those on your social media, because this video is using the medium for what it's made for. And it may not be like inspiring, but it's entertaining and it gets it still gets the message across. 00:12:34:00 - 00:13:08:51 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry While your other one, yeah, it gives all the information, but this other one, it inspires, it promotes action. It may, you know, cause people to share it. It may be entertaining, it may cause them to laugh. And then as a result of that, like when there's a bunco night, let me go find that out. And then they head over to your church website, which is built, you know, comes done for you or you build it on your own and it has all of the relevant and pertinent information you're using now, the the broadcast channels and the platforms for what they're made for, as opposed to just simply, crushing it and pounding information down 00:13:08:56 - 00:13:33:45 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry through people's channels. Because remember, the myth that we all believe is that they just need more information. But the fact is, it's not exactly it. We need to optimize our our communications in the channels that we find ourselves so that they lean into what those channels are built for and made for. So now this leads me to the ultimate church announcement decision making grid. 00:13:33:57 - 00:13:56:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. And so the question that I want you to ask yourself when you're considering putting an announcement up on the church platform, up on the church stage, is does this announcement apply to greater than 50% of the people in the room? If not, find another way. Now you might be thinking like, but I got to keep the men's ministry happy in the women's ministry happy. 00:13:56:01 - 00:14:23:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And and I will say, when you institute this church decision making, the search announcement, decision making grid. Yes. At first you are going to have some unhappy people, especially if you've been announcing everything. Okay. However, once you institute this as a policy, when someone asks you to announce such and such thing, you can say, I'm sorry, we actually only do this and you got to still be people over process in this, okay? 00:14:23:42 - 00:14:49:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But let the policy point to the policy and let the policy be the bad guy. But the reason that your announcements aren't captivating enough people is because you're getting up and you're announcing something that only pertains to 10 to 15% of the people in your population or in your congregation. And so you might be thinking like, okay, yeah, but the, the platform, the, the stage, that's the only time that we have to announce anything. 00:14:49:23 - 00:15:12:54 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So what I recommend is 50% or more okay. And then if not find another way. And so you might be thinking well what are some other ways. So here's not an exhaustive list but just a list kind of get your brain going. So you could do social media right. And if it's like an outsider event, you might even consider, doing some advertising and putting some some dollars behind like a Facebook or an Instagram ad. 00:15:12:58 - 00:15:33:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Your website is a fantastic spot to advertise things. Text messaging, emails. And let me, let me just say for a minute, like if you can do list segmentation and there are tools out there like, like a HubSpot or like a ConvertKit, and they're going to have a they're going to have a little bit of cost associated with it. 00:15:33:29 - 00:15:57:44 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you may need to put that above and beyond a thing like, you know, church community builder, planning center or whatever your church management software is. But you can create list segmentation. And so you can actually send custom emails for people based on where they actually are in your church, as opposed to just sending big church blasts. Because I think that's another reason why some of our information falls on deaf ears. 00:15:57:44 - 00:16:16:58 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're sending irrelevant announcements to people, but we don't know how to, make our lists smaller and more custom. Right? Like, again, in the industrial age versus the digital age and the industrial age is all about numbers. So we just need to get the most amount of people on our email list and then just blast them with this information over and over again. 00:16:17:03 - 00:16:37:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in the digital age, people want to be known for who they are as an individual. And so if we can send them customized, tailored emails that are broken down into what, marketers called lists and, segmentation of lists, that's going to, I think, perform better for you on open rates and click through rates and called actions and actually then taking those call to actions. 00:16:37:51 - 00:17:03:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But so you can use like banners on your website, you can even use printed banners, pop up banners and things like that. And nucleus actually does all of those things again for you. Okay. Now so so if it doesn't apply to greater than 50%, don't announce it. And okay. And I would say no more than two call to action zone one and two announcements. 00:17:03:05 - 00:17:25:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now again you might be like what? Like how you're trying to riot okay. Some of you you have church bulletins. You have bulletin boards like use those other means and methods. I mean, let me just say like, you know, right now we have a, high school, like, kind of retreat disciple now weekend thing coming up. We don't announce anything in store for student ministry in our main church announcement platform. 00:17:25:09 - 00:17:44:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. But right now we're we're pushing and announcing our high school weekend in there. And, you might think, like, oh, Grace, you probably have, like, a lot more traction, like, we have less traction on this event signups than anything else. And it's not because people don't know about it. It's just because it's and it's ended up kind of being a bad weekend for a lot of our students. 00:17:44:04 - 00:18:12:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, again, the publicity thing is not necessarily the issue. We don't have more people coming to our events because of it. Like, we people know about what we have going on because we use and utilize these other kind of platforms and channels to, you know, to our best vantage. Okay. Now, so all those things being said, the myth plus through hacks now the decision making grid, the last little bonus tip that I have for you is when you're sharing announcements. 00:18:12:32 - 00:18:34:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay, here's how you can here's how you can lean into inspiration and away from away from information is share stories, use footage, and use photos, especially if you have it from previous and past events. Share a story about life changing as you're doing it. I have some some videos in the back or some photos on the back scrolling. 00:18:34:16 - 00:18:55:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is a picture from last year's bunco event. And this is. This is Sally. And Sally had an amazing time and she came for the community. But she stuck around for for the life change. And now she's a part of a group and now she's serving. And as she leading bunco night. And that's why you should come to bunco night and go to our church website to sign up for this year's bunco night. 00:18:55:25 - 00:19:15:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like something like that. So much more inspiring. Then this Thursday, 6:00 bring a dip to share and all the boring information your website can handle that it does a good job of that. And people, people know to look for it and people are looking for it in that way. And so you have all these different avenues beyond just your stage. 00:19:15:16 - 00:19:36:35 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So how do you maximize each individual avenue in 2025 so that it gets the message across in a way that is captivating and inspiring. And then the people in your church know about what's going on and actually move towards action of signing up for and attending your church's events. 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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 Steal this Church Announcement Strategy
01:48 Myth
05:44 Hack #1
08:39 Hack #2
11:17 Hack #3
13:31 The Ultimate Church Announcement Decision Making Grid
18:09 Bonus Tip

TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I want you to

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steal this clearer and less boring church announcement strategy.

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Because why? Because you've been announcing your event for several weeks, maybe even months now at this point. And give me a like, if this has ever happened to you, you get that text from that student or that church member that said, when is the event again?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or is it too late to sign up? Or when are we supposed to be there again? And you just want to pull

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your hair out? But like we talked

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about in the

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last

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video partying on, he has this concept called inadvertent blindness. And what he's really saying with that is he says, we really only see what we're looking for.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in

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this

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video,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
how do we have clearer and less boring church announcements, ones that are actually going to, incite inspiration and not just one where you're only simply disseminating information? So in this video, what I want to do is I want to share with you the myth about church communications and church announcements. I want to share with you three hacks that will help you have clearer and better and less boring church announcements.

00:01:08:54 - 00:01:33:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm also going to share with you the ultimate church decision making grid. How do you announce what you announce so that the best and most relevant announcements are the ones that are being said from the stage and from the platform, and from the areas and the channels that you want to be saying them from. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a bonus hack that may in fact change everything.

00:01:33:18 - 00:01:38:50
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as always, if you're watching here on YouTube or wherever you're listening in the podcast catcher, there are chapters

00:01:38:50 - 00:01:56:40
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the areas of the video that make the most sense to you. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So what's the myth? Okay, the myth is this. The myth is that people don't come to your church function, your church thing.

00:01:56:44 - 00:02:24:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We assume that they're not coming to the thing because they don't know about the thing. And so therefore, what do we do? We share more information about the thing. Oh, well, it's actually at seven and we're going to have this and we're going to put it in the fellowship hall, like, and we just give them more and more boring details about it, assuming that those boring details about it are going to be what's going to help them overcome their in in the action and misinformation and get them to that event.

00:02:24:17 - 00:02:41:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's not why they're not coming. They're not coming because they don't care about it. They're not coming because they're busy and they have a schedule conflict. They're not coming because your thing is not the most important thing in their life. Sorry. Like, I hate like I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to say that to you in a way that's demeaning.

00:02:41:17 - 00:03:16:35
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like, your thing is not as important as you think your thing is. And so the reason why people don't come to church events is not because they're missing information. But as we talked about in the last episode, credit to Brady Shear for this analogy is we got to start thinking more like movie trailers, right? So a movie trailer moves people towards inspiration, and they try to incite curiosity in such a way that when they see that movie trailer, they're like, I have to go and they'll move heaven and earth and they'll find the tickets and they'll find the theater, and they'll get to that event of their own accord.

00:03:16:39 - 00:03:36:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our church events. First of all, we're not able to compete in a lot of times with movie trailers. Like I get it right, but we we result and we, you know, get our church announcements to a spot where we think we just need to share more information. What time, what date. And like those are really boring church announcements.

00:03:36:23 - 00:03:57:55
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the more information that you share in that church announcement, again, we're assuming the myth is we're assuming they don't have enough information, so we'll just give them more information, when in fact, what you actually need to do is you need to inspire them. You need to move them to action through inspiration, through storytelling, through captivation of their senses and their imagination.

00:03:57:55 - 00:04:18:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you're like, dude, I'm a youth pastor. I'm a church secretary, I'm a senior pastor. I can't do any of that. And like, I get it, these are not skills that we often refine or hone in on our own. They're not disciplines that that we have maybe necessarily been been, you know, given or taught in like a seminary degree or whatever the case may be.

00:04:18:22 - 00:04:42:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this world with over information and with this noisy world, like, that's what we're competing. See, so like this, these, this myth. Right? This myth is the reason why, posting your announcements to social media is a bad idea because, again, this myth helps us think, oh, we need to put this information out there on the internet.

00:04:42:25 - 00:04:58:40
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We need to let them know when and where and how much dice to bring to the bunker. And I and which fellowship hall we're going to be in, like people again, they're not getting on social media for more information for information download. And if they are, I'm going to tell you where you should put that information because you should include it.

00:04:58:40 - 00:05:18:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. But and we'll get to that in a second. But they're not getting on social for that. They're getting a social once again for in from Earth, not for information for inspiration and and maybe even for some humor and maybe for some entertainment. And so that's actually what I sort of push towards in my free strategy guide, which is going to be link down below.

00:05:18:26 - 00:05:39:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you haven't grabbed it, go ahead and grab it. It is, like I said, it's completely free, but it'll help lay out in detail what I do to kind of live this hybrid version of ministry and what I do on social media. But if that's not what they're looking for, and if our announcements are chock full of too much information and not enough inspiration, then what should we do instead?

00:05:39:29 - 00:06:03:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm glad you asked. That's where these three hacks are going to come in. Okay, so hack number one is reduce your CTAs, CTAs is an acronym. And it sure. It's a marketing word for reduce your calls to action. So a call to action is what you're actually asking someone to do as a result of the information. You have a bunco night.

00:06:03:36 - 00:06:27:42
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you want them to sign up for the bunco night, right. But oftentimes we're stacking multiple call to actions. Okay. So in an announcement moment in your church, we often get up there and everyone gets an opportunity that the kids in the youth and the women and the men's and then the whole church picnic, and there's just there's too many different things.

00:06:27:42 - 00:07:02:56
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, too much thing, too many things that can cause somebody brain to get overwhelmed, psychologically speaking. And therefore, instead of promoting action, it does the exact opposite. It causes paralysis and it promotes inaction. In fact, Simon Sinek, he shared this story of the salesman who was a shoe salesman, and the shoe salesman said he learned the key to selling shoes, and the key to selling shoes was anytime he would have, a person trying on shoes and he had three shoe options, they would always say no.

00:07:03:01 - 00:07:17:56
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But when he reduced it to simply just two options, right? Reducing the call to actions when he would reduce it down to just two options. And so if they had three, he would and they're like, they had two. And they're like, let me see this pair. He would say, which one of these do you want me to take away?

00:07:18:01 - 00:07:36:32
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They would remove one. He would take one away. And then that he'd bring the new pair in, and then there would be two new sets of shoes. And then he would say, which of these do you want, A or B, as opposed to which of these you want A, B or C? And he said when he had two options, he always sold.

00:07:36:32 - 00:08:02:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When he had three they would walk away. And so the same is true in our church announcements. You your assumption and it's a faulty one. But your assumption now hates it is that the more you offer on the stage, the the better it's going to be for your church and for your people. And let's be honest, if you work on a church staff, there's the pressure of getting everyone's announcement equal airtime.

00:08:02:16 - 00:08:20:35
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so again, we're going to talk about the decision making grid of how you come to those decisions. But you need to reduce your call to actions on your stage. What do you really want the people in your auditorium in your service? What do you really want them to do? And everything else? We're going to find another way.

00:08:20:39 - 00:08:39:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to find another avenue to promote it. And you might be thinking, yeah, but you just told me, I can't put that on social. And you're right. I did say that again. We'll get to it. But reduce your calls to action. And then within that okay. So reduce the number of announcements that you're sharing. But within that simplify see where they go.

00:08:39:17 - 00:09:06:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which leads me to my second hack. Centralize everything on your website. And now you might be thinking and even assuming that you're doing that. But again credit to Brady Scheer of that pro church tools, his announcement strategy, his church website strategy, and his church website builder, which if you don't have a good church website and you want one that's good and actually easy to put together, I recommend nucleus Dot church.

00:09:06:06 - 00:09:29:56
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
His whole goal with it is to get everyone to the same centralized location. And so when you give an announcement, then people are and an announcement that's inspiring. And that one that's chock full of information. So a good announcement about a, you know, story of life change at the last women's bunco night and then someone sitting there like, I need to get to the bunco night.

00:09:29:56 - 00:09:51:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But when is it? Where is it? Like they go to the website, and the website has all of the information that they're looking for. Your announcements will be better if your website can supply them with the information that they're looking for. Because again, like I said in the last video, which is linked right up here at the top of the screen, if you're watching here on YouTube, I so we operate in a cable TV mentality.

00:09:51:29 - 00:10:22:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In order to come to the bunker, you need all this information. You need the when, the where, the why, the what, but in what. People aren't living mindset wise that way they're living in a Netflix culture. And so they're like, oh, my church has a bunco night. When is that again? And they're thinking about that, on a Thursday at 4 p.m. and so on a Thursday at 4 p.m., they need to be able to go to your church website and get all the information that they're looking for, as opposed to relying on you in the moment on Sunday to get to church.

00:10:22:27 - 00:10:45:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Bunco night information, which they're not interested in at that moment, but they may be interested later. And so you if you catch them and hook them with inspiration, they'll want to go and then later in this Netflix culture, they'll go on demand and they'll go get it on your church website, which if you're hearing this and you're like, wow, okay, so we need to overhaul our church website.

00:10:45:27 - 00:11:05:56
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That may be the case. And you may be right. And you know what? I can offer that for you. I have a service called Church Communications done for you. You don't have enough time to kind of overhaul your social media strategy on your church website. I would encourage you to take a look at the link below. I'd love to offer that to you, and we can explore what that might look like for us to walk into a partnership together.

00:11:05:56 - 00:11:39:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because I want you to win, and I want more people to come to your church bunco night. But again, the third hack then, is, as we've been talking about, kind of in this whole video, right? Aim to inspire over inform, aim to inspire over and form a sort of been the basis of this whole video. But once again, and here I want to point out like here's what the dictionary.com definition of inspires, really, it's to fill someone with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.

00:11:39:21 - 00:12:07:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so a video, if you're watching here on YouTube, like this is one of my transition style videos that we do for social media. Might not seem inspiring to you, right? However, imagine a person stumbling upon it on social media because they can stumble upon your videos like this on social media. Which of these do you think performs better, this video or this standard static announcement graphic that you cooked up in Canva?

00:12:07:17 - 00:12:33:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. Which is why down below I have my social transition video pack, the ones that I recommend. I have six of those plus six cap cut meme style videos. Go ahead, download those and then start using and posting those on your social media, because this video is using the medium for what it's made for. And it may not be like inspiring, but it's entertaining and it gets it still gets the message across.

00:12:34:00 - 00:13:08:51
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
While your other one, yeah, it gives all the information, but this other one, it inspires, it promotes action. It may, you know, cause people to share it. It may be entertaining, it may cause them to laugh. And then as a result of that, like when there's a bunco night, let me go find that out. And then they head over to your church website, which is built, you know, comes done for you or you build it on your own and it has all of the relevant and pertinent information you're using now, the the broadcast channels and the platforms for what they're made for, as opposed to just simply, crushing it and pounding information down

00:13:08:56 - 00:13:33:45
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
through people's channels. Because remember, the myth that we all believe is that they just need more information. But the fact is, it's not exactly it. We need to optimize our our communications in the channels that we find ourselves so that they lean into what those channels are built for and made for. So now this leads me to the ultimate church announcement decision making grid.

00:13:33:57 - 00:13:56:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. And so the question that I want you to ask yourself when you're considering putting an announcement up on the church platform, up on the church stage, is does this announcement apply to greater than 50% of the people in the room? If not, find another way. Now you might be thinking like, but I got to keep the men's ministry happy in the women's ministry happy.

00:13:56:01 - 00:14:23:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and I will say, when you institute this church decision making, the search announcement, decision making grid. Yes. At first you are going to have some unhappy people, especially if you've been announcing everything. Okay. However, once you institute this as a policy, when someone asks you to announce such and such thing, you can say, I'm sorry, we actually only do this and you got to still be people over process in this, okay?

00:14:23:42 - 00:14:49:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But let the policy point to the policy and let the policy be the bad guy. But the reason that your announcements aren't captivating enough people is because you're getting up and you're announcing something that only pertains to 10 to 15% of the people in your population or in your congregation. And so you might be thinking like, okay, yeah, but the, the platform, the, the stage, that's the only time that we have to announce anything.

00:14:49:23 - 00:15:12:54
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So what I recommend is 50% or more okay. And then if not find another way. And so you might be thinking well what are some other ways. So here's not an exhaustive list but just a list kind of get your brain going. So you could do social media right. And if it's like an outsider event, you might even consider, doing some advertising and putting some some dollars behind like a Facebook or an Instagram ad.

00:15:12:58 - 00:15:33:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your website is a fantastic spot to advertise things. Text messaging, emails. And let me, let me just say for a minute, like if you can do list segmentation and there are tools out there like, like a HubSpot or like a ConvertKit, and they're going to have a they're going to have a little bit of cost associated with it.

00:15:33:29 - 00:15:57:44
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you may need to put that above and beyond a thing like, you know, church community builder, planning center or whatever your church management software is. But you can create list segmentation. And so you can actually send custom emails for people based on where they actually are in your church, as opposed to just sending big church blasts. Because I think that's another reason why some of our information falls on deaf ears.

00:15:57:44 - 00:16:16:58
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're sending irrelevant announcements to people, but we don't know how to, make our lists smaller and more custom. Right? Like, again, in the industrial age versus the digital age and the industrial age is all about numbers. So we just need to get the most amount of people on our email list and then just blast them with this information over and over again.

00:16:17:03 - 00:16:37:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in the digital age, people want to be known for who they are as an individual. And so if we can send them customized, tailored emails that are broken down into what, marketers called lists and, segmentation of lists, that's going to, I think, perform better for you on open rates and click through rates and called actions and actually then taking those call to actions.

00:16:37:51 - 00:17:03:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But so you can use like banners on your website, you can even use printed banners, pop up banners and things like that. And nucleus actually does all of those things again for you. Okay. Now so so if it doesn't apply to greater than 50%, don't announce it. And okay. And I would say no more than two call to action zone one and two announcements.

00:17:03:05 - 00:17:25:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now again you might be like what? Like how you're trying to riot okay. Some of you you have church bulletins. You have bulletin boards like use those other means and methods. I mean, let me just say like, you know, right now we have a, high school, like, kind of retreat disciple now weekend thing coming up. We don't announce anything in store for student ministry in our main church announcement platform.

00:17:25:09 - 00:17:44:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. But right now we're we're pushing and announcing our high school weekend in there. And, you might think, like, oh, Grace, you probably have, like, a lot more traction, like, we have less traction on this event signups than anything else. And it's not because people don't know about it. It's just because it's and it's ended up kind of being a bad weekend for a lot of our students.

00:17:44:04 - 00:18:12:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, again, the publicity thing is not necessarily the issue. We don't have more people coming to our events because of it. Like, we people know about what we have going on because we use and utilize these other kind of platforms and channels to, you know, to our best vantage. Okay. Now, so all those things being said, the myth plus through hacks now the decision making grid, the last little bonus tip that I have for you is when you're sharing announcements.

00:18:12:32 - 00:18:34:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay, here's how you can here's how you can lean into inspiration and away from away from information is share stories, use footage, and use photos, especially if you have it from previous and past events. Share a story about life changing as you're doing it. I have some some videos in the back or some photos on the back scrolling.

00:18:34:16 - 00:18:55:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is a picture from last year's bunco event. And this is. This is Sally. And Sally had an amazing time and she came for the community. But she stuck around for for the life change. And now she's a part of a group and now she's serving. And as she leading bunco night. And that's why you should come to bunco night and go to our church website to sign up for this year's bunco night.

00:18:55:25 - 00:19:15:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like something like that. So much more inspiring. Then this Thursday, 6:00 bring a dip to share and all the boring information your website can handle that it does a good job of that. And people, people know to look for it and people are looking for it in that way. And so you have all these different avenues beyond just your stage.

00:19:15:16 - 00:19:36:35
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So how do you maximize each individual avenue in 2025 so that it gets the message across in a way that is captivating and inspiring. And then the people in your church know about what's going on and actually move towards action of signing up for and attending your church's events. Well, I'm glad you asked because that's the next video here in this playlist.

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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 Steal this Church Announcement Strategy
01:48 Myth
05:44 Hack #1
08:39 Hack #2
11:17 Hack #3
13:31 The Ultimate Church Announcement Decision Making Grid
18:09 Bonus Tip

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:19 - 00:00:01:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I want you to

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
steal this clearer and less boring church announcement strategy.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because why? Because you've been announcing your event for several weeks, maybe even months now at this point. And give me a like, if this has ever happened to you, you get that text from that student or that church member that said, when is the event again?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or is it too late to sign up? Or when are we supposed to be there again? And you just want to pull

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
your hair out? But like we talked

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
about in the

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
last

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video partying on, he has this concept called inadvertent blindness. And what he's really saying with that is he says, we really only see what we're looking for.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in

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this

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video,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
how do we have clearer and less boring church announcements, ones that are actually going to, incite inspiration and not just one where you're only simply disseminating information? So in this video, what I want to do is I want to share with you the myth about church communications and church announcements. I want to share with you three hacks that will help you have clearer and better and less boring church announcements.

00:01:08:54 - 00:01:33:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm also going to share with you the ultimate church decision making grid. How do you announce what you announce so that the best and most relevant announcements are the ones that are being said from the stage and from the platform, and from the areas and the channels that you want to be saying them from. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a bonus hack that may in fact change everything.

00:01:33:18 - 00:01:38:50
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as always, if you're watching here on YouTube or wherever you're listening in the podcast catcher, there are chapters

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
listed down below so that you can jump ahead to the areas of the video that make the most sense to you. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. So what's the myth? Okay, the myth is this. The myth is that people don't come to your church function, your church thing.

00:01:56:44 - 00:02:24:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We assume that they're not coming to the thing because they don't know about the thing. And so therefore, what do we do? We share more information about the thing. Oh, well, it's actually at seven and we're going to have this and we're going to put it in the fellowship hall, like, and we just give them more and more boring details about it, assuming that those boring details about it are going to be what's going to help them overcome their in in the action and misinformation and get them to that event.

00:02:24:17 - 00:02:41:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's not why they're not coming. They're not coming because they don't care about it. They're not coming because they're busy and they have a schedule conflict. They're not coming because your thing is not the most important thing in their life. Sorry. Like, I hate like I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to say that to you in a way that's demeaning.

00:02:41:17 - 00:03:16:35
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like, your thing is not as important as you think your thing is. And so the reason why people don't come to church events is not because they're missing information. But as we talked about in the last episode, credit to Brady Shear for this analogy is we got to start thinking more like movie trailers, right? So a movie trailer moves people towards inspiration, and they try to incite curiosity in such a way that when they see that movie trailer, they're like, I have to go and they'll move heaven and earth and they'll find the tickets and they'll find the theater, and they'll get to that event of their own accord.

00:03:16:39 - 00:03:36:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our church events. First of all, we're not able to compete in a lot of times with movie trailers. Like I get it right, but we we result and we, you know, get our church announcements to a spot where we think we just need to share more information. What time, what date. And like those are really boring church announcements.

00:03:36:23 - 00:03:57:55
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the more information that you share in that church announcement, again, we're assuming the myth is we're assuming they don't have enough information, so we'll just give them more information, when in fact, what you actually need to do is you need to inspire them. You need to move them to action through inspiration, through storytelling, through captivation of their senses and their imagination.

00:03:57:55 - 00:04:18:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you're like, dude, I'm a youth pastor. I'm a church secretary, I'm a senior pastor. I can't do any of that. And like, I get it, these are not skills that we often refine or hone in on our own. They're not disciplines that that we have maybe necessarily been been, you know, given or taught in like a seminary degree or whatever the case may be.

00:04:18:22 - 00:04:42:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this world with over information and with this noisy world, like, that's what we're competing. See, so like this, these, this myth. Right? This myth is the reason why, posting your announcements to social media is a bad idea because, again, this myth helps us think, oh, we need to put this information out there on the internet.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We need to let them know when and where and how much dice to bring to the bunker. And I and which fellowship hall we're going to be in, like people again, they're not getting on social media for more information for information download. And if they are, I'm going to tell you where you should put that information because you should include it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. But and we'll get to that in a second. But they're not getting on social for that. They're getting a social once again for in from Earth, not for information for inspiration and and maybe even for some humor and maybe for some entertainment. And so that's actually what I sort of push towards in my free strategy guide, which is going to be link down below.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you haven't grabbed it, go ahead and grab it. It is, like I said, it's completely free, but it'll help lay out in detail what I do to kind of live this hybrid version of ministry and what I do on social media. But if that's not what they're looking for, and if our announcements are chock full of too much information and not enough inspiration, then what should we do instead?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm glad you asked. That's where these three hacks are going to come in. Okay, so hack number one is reduce your CTAs, CTAs is an acronym. And it sure. It's a marketing word for reduce your calls to action. So a call to action is what you're actually asking someone to do as a result of the information. You have a bunco night.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you want them to sign up for the bunco night, right. But oftentimes we're stacking multiple call to actions. Okay. So in an announcement moment in your church, we often get up there and everyone gets an opportunity that the kids in the youth and the women and the men's and then the whole church picnic, and there's just there's too many different things.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, too much thing, too many things that can cause somebody brain to get overwhelmed, psychologically speaking. And therefore, instead of promoting action, it does the exact opposite. It causes paralysis and it promotes inaction. In fact, Simon Sinek, he shared this story of the salesman who was a shoe salesman, and the shoe salesman said he learned the key to selling shoes, and the key to selling shoes was anytime he would have, a person trying on shoes and he had three shoe options, they would always say no.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But when he reduced it to simply just two options, right? Reducing the call to actions when he would reduce it down to just two options. And so if they had three, he would and they're like, they had two. And they're like, let me see this pair. He would say, which one of these do you want me to take away?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They would remove one. He would take one away. And then that he'd bring the new pair in, and then there would be two new sets of shoes. And then he would say, which of these do you want, A or B, as opposed to which of these you want A, B or C? And he said when he had two options, he always sold.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When he had three they would walk away. And so the same is true in our church announcements. You your assumption and it's a faulty one. But your assumption now hates it is that the more you offer on the stage, the the better it's going to be for your church and for your people. And let's be honest, if you work on a church staff, there's the pressure of getting everyone's announcement equal airtime.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so again, we're going to talk about the decision making grid of how you come to those decisions. But you need to reduce your call to actions on your stage. What do you really want the people in your auditorium in your service? What do you really want them to do? And everything else? We're going to find another way.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to find another avenue to promote it. And you might be thinking, yeah, but you just told me, I can't put that on social. And you're right. I did say that again. We'll get to it. But reduce your calls to action. And then within that okay. So reduce the number of announcements that you're sharing. But within that simplify see where they go.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which leads me to my second hack. Centralize everything on your website. And now you might be thinking and even assuming that you're doing that. But again credit to Brady Scheer of that pro church tools, his announcement strategy, his church website strategy, and his church website builder, which if you don't have a good church website and you want one that's good and actually easy to put together, I recommend nucleus Dot church.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
His whole goal with it is to get everyone to the same centralized location. And so when you give an announcement, then people are and an announcement that's inspiring. And that one that's chock full of information. So a good announcement about a, you know, story of life change at the last women's bunco night and then someone sitting there like, I need to get to the bunco night.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But when is it? Where is it? Like they go to the website, and the website has all of the information that they're looking for. Your announcements will be better if your website can supply them with the information that they're looking for. Because again, like I said in the last video, which is linked right up here at the top of the screen, if you're watching here on YouTube, I so we operate in a cable TV mentality.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In order to come to the bunker, you need all this information. You need the when, the where, the why, the what, but in what. People aren't living mindset wise that way they're living in a Netflix culture. And so they're like, oh, my church has a bunco night. When is that again? And they're thinking about that, on a Thursday at 4 p.m. and so on a Thursday at 4 p.m., they need to be able to go to your church website and get all the information that they're looking for, as opposed to relying on you in the moment on Sunday to get to church.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Bunco night information, which they're not interested in at that moment, but they may be interested later. And so you if you catch them and hook them with inspiration, they'll want to go and then later in this Netflix culture, they'll go on demand and they'll go get it on your church website, which if you're hearing this and you're like, wow, okay, so we need to overhaul our church website.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That may be the case. And you may be right. And you know what? I can offer that for you. I have a service called Church Communications done for you. You don't have enough time to kind of overhaul your social media strategy on your church website. I would encourage you to take a look at the link below. I'd love to offer that to you, and we can explore what that might look like for us to walk into a partnership together.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because I want you to win, and I want more people to come to your church bunco night. But again, the third hack then, is, as we've been talking about, kind of in this whole video, right? Aim to inspire over inform, aim to inspire over and form a sort of been the basis of this whole video. But once again, and here I want to point out like here's what the dictionary.com definition of inspires, really, it's to fill someone with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so a video, if you're watching here on YouTube, like this is one of my transition style videos that we do for social media. Might not seem inspiring to you, right? However, imagine a person stumbling upon it on social media because they can stumble upon your videos like this on social media. Which of these do you think performs better, this video or this standard static announcement graphic that you cooked up in Canva?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. Which is why down below I have my social transition video pack, the ones that I recommend. I have six of those plus six cap cut meme style videos. Go ahead, download those and then start using and posting those on your social media, because this video is using the medium for what it's made for. And it may not be like inspiring, but it's entertaining and it gets it still gets the message across.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
While your other one, yeah, it gives all the information, but this other one, it inspires, it promotes action. It may, you know, cause people to share it. It may be entertaining, it may cause them to laugh. And then as a result of that, like when there's a bunco night, let me go find that out. And then they head over to your church website, which is built, you know, comes done for you or you build it on your own and it has all of the relevant and pertinent information you're using now, the the broadcast channels and the platforms for what they're made for, as opposed to just simply, crushing it and pounding information down

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
through people's channels. Because remember, the myth that we all believe is that they just need more information. But the fact is, it's not exactly it. We need to optimize our our communications in the channels that we find ourselves so that they lean into what those channels are built for and made for. So now this leads me to the ultimate church announcement decision making grid.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. And so the question that I want you to ask yourself when you're considering putting an announcement up on the church platform, up on the church stage, is does this announcement apply to greater than 50% of the people in the room? If not, find another way. Now you might be thinking like, but I got to keep the men's ministry happy in the women's ministry happy.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and I will say, when you institute this church decision making, the search announcement, decision making grid. Yes. At first you are going to have some unhappy people, especially if you've been announcing everything. Okay. However, once you institute this as a policy, when someone asks you to announce such and such thing, you can say, I'm sorry, we actually only do this and you got to still be people over process in this, okay?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But let the policy point to the policy and let the policy be the bad guy. But the reason that your announcements aren't captivating enough people is because you're getting up and you're announcing something that only pertains to 10 to 15% of the people in your population or in your congregation. And so you might be thinking like, okay, yeah, but the, the platform, the, the stage, that's the only time that we have to announce anything.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So what I recommend is 50% or more okay. And then if not find another way. And so you might be thinking well what are some other ways. So here's not an exhaustive list but just a list kind of get your brain going. So you could do social media right. And if it's like an outsider event, you might even consider, doing some advertising and putting some some dollars behind like a Facebook or an Instagram ad.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Your website is a fantastic spot to advertise things. Text messaging, emails. And let me, let me just say for a minute, like if you can do list segmentation and there are tools out there like, like a HubSpot or like a ConvertKit, and they're going to have a they're going to have a little bit of cost associated with it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you may need to put that above and beyond a thing like, you know, church community builder, planning center or whatever your church management software is. But you can create list segmentation. And so you can actually send custom emails for people based on where they actually are in your church, as opposed to just sending big church blasts. Because I think that's another reason why some of our information falls on deaf ears.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're sending irrelevant announcements to people, but we don't know how to, make our lists smaller and more custom. Right? Like, again, in the industrial age versus the digital age and the industrial age is all about numbers. So we just need to get the most amount of people on our email list and then just blast them with this information over and over again.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in the digital age, people want to be known for who they are as an individual. And so if we can send them customized, tailored emails that are broken down into what, marketers called lists and, segmentation of lists, that's going to, I think, perform better for you on open rates and click through rates and called actions and actually then taking those call to actions.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But so you can use like banners on your website, you can even use printed banners, pop up banners and things like that. And nucleus actually does all of those things again for you. Okay. Now so so if it doesn't apply to greater than 50%, don't announce it. And okay. And I would say no more than two call to action zone one and two announcements.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now again you might be like what? Like how you're trying to riot okay. Some of you you have church bulletins. You have bulletin boards like use those other means and methods. I mean, let me just say like, you know, right now we have a, high school, like, kind of retreat disciple now weekend thing coming up. We don't announce anything in store for student ministry in our main church announcement platform.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. But right now we're we're pushing and announcing our high school weekend in there. And, you might think, like, oh, Grace, you probably have, like, a lot more traction, like, we have less traction on this event signups than anything else. And it's not because people don't know about it. It's just because it's and it's ended up kind of being a bad weekend for a lot of our students.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, again, the publicity thing is not necessarily the issue. We don't have more people coming to our events because of it. Like, we people know about what we have going on because we use and utilize these other kind of platforms and channels to, you know, to our best vantage. Okay. Now, so all those things being said, the myth plus through hacks now the decision making grid, the last little bonus tip that I have for you is when you're sharing announcements.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay, here's how you can here's how you can lean into inspiration and away from away from information is share stories, use footage, and use photos, especially if you have it from previous and past events. Share a story about life changing as you're doing it. I have some some videos in the back or some photos on the back scrolling.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is a picture from last year's bunco event. And this is. This is Sally. And Sally had an amazing time and she came for the community. But she stuck around for for the life change. And now she's a part of a group and now she's serving. And as she leading bunco night. And that's why you should come to bunco night and go to our church website to sign up for this year's bunco night.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like something like that. So much more inspiring. Then this Thursday, 6:00 bring a dip to share and all the boring information your website can handle that it does a good job of that. And people, people know to look for it and people are looking for it in that way. And so you have all these different avenues beyond just your stage.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So how do you maximize each individual avenue in 2025 so that it gets the message across in a way that is captivating and inspiring. And then the people in your church know about what's going on and actually move towards action of signing up for and attending your church's events. Well, I'm glad you asked because that's the next video here in this playlist.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's going to be linked here on screen. So go ahead and tap that and we'll see you over in that video. But don't forget my friends. And as always to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 137: 3 Reasons Your Announcements Arenโ€™t Working https://www.hybridministry.xyz/137 554633e9-5d61-49a8-8efd-cc3fca04414f Thu, 20 Feb 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 137 3 Reasons Your Announcements Arenโ€™t Working full Nick Clason Ever feel like no oneโ€™s listening to your church announcements? In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, Nick Clason dives into the common pitfalls of church announcements, revealing three reasons why theyโ€™re not workingโ€”and offering actionable solutions to fix them. 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Like 00:00:07:00 - 00:00:14:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you feel like nobody is ever really listened to you when you're giving the announcements? 00:00:14:04 - 00:00:16:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, in this episode I want to talk about is the 00:00:16:20 - 00:00:28:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry problem with most church and youth ministry announcements. So if you're a youth pastor person in church communication to pastor, this will help increase 00:00:28:03 - 00:00:31:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and uptake your engagement around announcements. 00:00:31:02 - 00:00:42:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I want to talk about the ultimate goal with all church announcements. And finally, stick around because I'm going to share with you three reasons that your church announcements may not be 00:00:42:11 - 00:00:47:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry going as well as you think. Plus, one solution for each of those 00:00:47:11 - 00:00:47:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry reasons, 00:00:47:22 - 00:00:50:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry including a concept called 00:00:50:04 - 00:00:55:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry inadvertent blindness. We're going to dive into that. And I have a free 00:00:55:04 - 00:01:00:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry resource that I think can absolutely change the game for you. 00:01:00:14 - 00:01:00:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I 00:01:00:19 - 00:01:01:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry think part 00:01:01:06 - 00:01:13:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of our problem here in 2025, in churches in North America, or let's just be honest around the world, is that we need to stop acting as churches. Look, we're in the 1990s 00:01:13:08 - 00:01:17:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and stop making boring announcements. 00:01:17:21 - 00:01:35:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give me a like, if you've heard the stat that we as humans have a shorter attention span now than goldfish, if that's the case, then we definitely have to figure something out, because you have some great things going on at your church, and if people don't know about it, they can't get to them. 00:01:35:04 - 00:02:03:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's talk about it. Welcome, my friends, to the hybrid minstrel show. So what is our problem? Our ultimate problem with bad church announcements is that nobody is showing up or that, like, nobody even knows about what we have going on. I actually, I did a video, a while back called Youth Pastor or Event Coordinator. It's going to be linked right up here at the top of the screen if you're watching here on YouTube. 00:02:03:00 - 00:02:05:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But one of the things I've learned in my 14 00:02:05:07 - 00:02:25:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry years of youth ministry experience is that attendance and, just people simply showing up. That's a really important factor to planning a good event. You can have an awesome event, but if you don't have people there, it's going to be a problem. And part of people getting there is knowing that the event is happening and understanding, knowing, hearing. 00:02:25:12 - 00:02:57:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you know, like realizing that you're giving a church announcement that requires action out of them. And the video I explore this kind of tension, right? That many of us in ministry, church ministry, like, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, we feel about our jobs and it's this it's right. Is are we meant to be doing what we're doing to ultimately make disciples, or are we doing what we're doing to plan killer events? 00:02:57:21 - 00:03:23:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And sometimes, if you're anything like me, let's just be honest. It feels like we are our job. Like it has morphed much more into an event planner and I don't know about you, but that's not exactly why I got into youth ministry. Right? But the problem, right, that's the problem with our church announcements, is because we have an event and we want people to get to it. 00:03:23:16 - 00:03:50:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Poor attendance is the problem with bad church announcements. Okay. And so if attendance is our issue, if that's the baked in assumptions, that's the baked in desire. And when we say, nobody knows what's going on, it's because nobody is attending our events. That is the no. But that's who that is coming from. So let's take a step back then. 00:03:50:05 - 00:03:59:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Even more right than just the event, then just the good or not so good church announcement and ask ourselves, like, what is our 00:03:59:05 - 00:04:12:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry goal around this event? What is our goal by giving this announcement? All right, so our goal just like the problem or the opposite, the problem, our goal is to get more people 00:04:12:22 - 00:04:14:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry aware of and more people 00:04:14:05 - 00:04:20:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to know about the thing, the event, the Bible study, the workshop, like whatever it is. 00:04:20:22 - 00:04:21:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. 00:04:21:15 - 00:04:28:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Is that the goal? No, it's not our goal. At least not ultimately, 00:04:28:17 - 00:04:29:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry at 00:04:29:01 - 00:04:29:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry least not 00:04:29:09 - 00:04:53:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the meta goal. Right? Attendance is not necessary is really the goal in and of itself. But like I said, when we feel like event coordinators, it can feel like the goal, the goal in church ministry, the goal with all of your events, ultimately, the reason you're even having such and such event 00:04:53:19 - 00:04:54:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is 00:04:54:05 - 00:04:56:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry life transformation. 00:04:56:21 - 00:05:28:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give me a subscribe if you agree with that statement. Life transformation is the ultimate goal, not attendance. It certainly helps having people there at your event because if they're not there, how can their lives be transformed? So I'll give you that. But we have to stop making a Tennessee Ultimate goal. I have to start realizing that we're really trying to be in the business about life transformation, which is done and led down the path through disciple making. 00:05:28:17 - 00:06:08:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you have to remember that prior to the digital era, attendance was the means to accomplish that life transformation. But we live now in the digital era, and so we can reach people and we can, disseminate a message through much more efficient and effective means. Now, with cell phones and technology and podcasts and YouTube videos and social media and fill in whatever blank you want to write, you got to realize that it's getting people in the room was originally that goal towards life transformation, but that's not exactly the era that we're living in. 00:06:08:08 - 00:06:19:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So what is the goal? If the goal is life transformation, how can we accomplish that? And also, how can we accomplish that in the new digital 00:06:19:05 - 00:06:19:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry era? Right. 00:06:19:16 - 00:06:20:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Churches 00:06:20:01 - 00:06:34:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry like I referenced it in the intro, churches are operating like it's the 1990s. And here's what I mean by that. In the 1990s, if you want to do watch Seinfeld, you had to catch it live on NBC the night that it aired and debuted. 00:06:34:20 - 00:06:49:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you didn't, then you better hope that you have a good DVR, which I don't even know if those are existed in the 90s. And then if you didn't have that, then tough luck. Mean you're going to have to catch that sucker on syndication when it comes out in the summer. 00:06:50:05 - 00:06:59:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Compare that to the drop of Stranger Things season two, where my wife and I, pretty children watched the entire season on 00:06:59:14 - 00:07:00:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry a Saturday, right? 00:07:01:04 - 00:07:06:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like it's just a completely different mindset and framework. We live in a 00:07:06:07 - 00:07:26:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Netflix culture, not a cable TV culture, and so people when you have information, they're operating under the guise of it being Netflix, but we're treating it like cable TV, like we said, this thing I'm going to share with you the key to life. Feel like cool, tell me where to find it. 00:07:26:00 - 00:07:34:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you're like, Sunday at 10:00, so only time to find it. That that's a huge cultural disconnect. 00:07:34:06 - 00:07:43:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I have a few ideas of three different problems and a solution for each of the problem. Let's dive in. 00:07:43:10 - 00:07:57:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So one of the reasons that I think our church announcements can tend to be failing is this. This first concept here, I think, is just that we live in a culture with an oversaturation of noise. 00:07:57:01 - 00:08:20:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, there's so much noise around us. There's so much and so many things that are just simply vying for our attention. And so we as a church, we two are vying for people's attention, piling on, on, Karen, you have a podcast called Inadvertent Blindness. And what he said, he said, really? We really only see what we're looking for. 00:08:21:03 - 00:08:21:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And 00:08:21:13 - 00:08:41:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so the fact is, if people aren't looking for your church thing, again, that Netflix versus cable TV, if they're not looking for it, like, oh, I heard there was a retreat. So I'm going on the website to find the answer to it. Right? As opposed to us who we're like, we're dishing it out. We're like, well, we announced it on Sunday. 00:08:41:05 - 00:09:01:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They weren't looking for it on Sunday. Right? It's that oversaturation of noise, inadvertent blindness. Right. So if you think about some of the noises in the world, I shared this a couple videos back. I'll share it again here. It's going to be linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube to have you take a look. If you're in a podcast catcher, you can scroll down and click the link to our YouTube video. 00:09:01:04 - 00:09:26:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Love to have you over there. Give us a like you show it. But, show up over there. But this video here talks about how we spend our time, especially spending our time online and the online amount of time like that. We as as people, sociology, have spent time on phones and on devices has skyrocketed compared to some of the time prior to the invention of tech. 00:09:26:14 - 00:09:47:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which, let's just be honest, it's not necessarily a surprise, but it is like it is a like factor that we have to deal with, right? In today's day and age. In 2025, people that don't know what's going on, it's probably because there's so much to pay attention to. So 00:09:47:15 - 00:09:56:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry my proposal, right, my solution is get my free hybrid strategy guide. 00:09:56:21 - 00:10:26:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's linked down below in the show notes. And the reason why that's important is because that will help you shift in some areas from a cable TV culture, where the only time that people can hear you hear the message of Jesus, hear your announcements, whatever the case may be to more of a Netflix culture and it just it encourages you to show up where people are spending their time, which is on social media. 00:10:26:14 - 00:10:46:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Give me a segue. Right. If you've ever heard or thought this before, like, hey, we need to get the word out, let's blitz our social channels. And if all you're ever doing is blitzing your social channels with getting the word out, then you're just turning your social channels into an announcement bulletin board. And that's not what those were made for. 00:10:46:04 - 00:11:07:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you're going to have a less effective reach on those social channels because you're not using them what they were made for. Instead, send an announcement out via like a push notification, a text message, or even like update it on the calendar, right? And like and like what we do is like we encourage our parents, our students to just like, subscribe to our Google Calendar. 00:11:07:05 - 00:11:15:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so something changes. It changes on our end. It'll change on their end if they're subscribed to it in their where in their calendar, 00:11:15:02 - 00:11:27:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry which is what, like an event. That's where an event is meant to be inside a calendar, but not just on your church calendar, on your church website that you want people to go to so that they know about your event. 00:11:27:18 - 00:11:29:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You want it to somehow get to their 00:11:29:10 - 00:11:56:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry personal calendar. That's how people live their lives through their calendars. So use the things that are meant to be used for the purposes that they're made for. And you use social media for the purposes that it's made. For my hybrid strategy, God will help you knock social media out of the park and become more hybrid with some of your messages and other, channels and usages on social media. 00:11:56:12 - 00:12:20:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So the second reason that I believe that some of our church announcements are falling flat is because we as churches are living in a cable TV mentality versus a Netflix or an on demand mentality. Or like, you understand, we've been talking about that in this video. The person who, I think has helped navigate that best for churches is, Brady Scheer up at Pro Church Tools. 00:12:20:14 - 00:12:42:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, he has a website builder called nucleus. And now, whether you use his website builder or not, and if you don't really have experience building websites, then I 100% recommend nucleus because it's a church, website builder for churches and by church like people. And so you don't have to have a ton of like, website skills to make it happen. 00:12:42:18 - 00:13:02:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like a noob like me can build a website using nucleus. But more than that, like what I want you to understand is that his concept behind it being nucleus is that every church announcement is done on the website. And so as opposed to like you getting up on the stage and 00:13:02:11 - 00:13:02:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry saying, 00:13:02:23 - 00:13:03:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry if you 00:13:03:07 - 00:13:07:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry want like information about bunco night talk to do your aunt Sally. 00:13:07:08 - 00:13:25:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you want information about the youth retreat, talk to youth pastor Ryan. And if you want to give, you can give via, our website. You can do text to give. You can scan this QR code for Venmo. We have Apple Pay, we have Google Pay. And, if you want to know about the prayer meeting, email Chuck. 00:13:26:02 - 00:13:35:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Chuck at our church.com and the kids ministry has a big camp out thing coming up. Swing by and grab a flier in the lobby 00:13:35:18 - 00:13:36:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry like 00:13:36:04 - 00:13:36:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry there 00:13:36:14 - 00:13:50:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry were five different call to actions in that, right? There's Sally, there's the youth pastor. There's any different amalgamation of giving opportunities. There's emailing, and then there's a flier. And he said, 00:13:50:00 - 00:13:55:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry make your nucleus, make your church website, your one stop shop. 00:13:55:19 - 00:14:12:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I created a video. I'll link it down below. A couple weeks back. And the video is literally titled, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me. And in it, I talk about my three step strategy guide, which you'll get some of that in my hybrid ministry, strategy guide if you download that from earlier. 00:14:12:17 - 00:14:41:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in the video, the three step strategy is step number one update and keep your website up to date. Your website should be a reliable one stop shop for everybody, and one of the ways to make your announcements better is to have the support of your website behind it. And so like for example, Brady uses this example all the time, like a trailer for a movie. 00:14:41:11 - 00:15:08:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry When you go to the theater, you're not like sitting there watching a trailer to a movie that you can't wait to see. And it ends with them being like, now on November 27th, it's going to be showing at 11, 1131, 115, 230. And that's going to be in theaters six theaters, seven is going to have at 315. Like, no, that's boring, but that's what we do as churches, right? 00:15:08:16 - 00:15:31:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Bunco night. Here's all the details in the fellowship hall. Bring a dip to share. It's going to be on November 27th. It's going to be at 730. If you don't have any dice, make sure you contact your aunt Sally and she'll bring you an extra pair of dice. That's boring. And so we're trying to take information and make that be the thing that captures people, people's attention. 00:15:31:18 - 00:15:52:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you know as well as I, especially for Chinese social media for that that's not what social is used for. Best, you're not going to get them hooked them with the information. And so what do we do to capture their attention? So a movie trailer is just like, you know, it like makes you like fall in love with the idea of this movie wicked. 00:15:52:09 - 00:16:12:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then when it comes out, what do you do? You go discover when it's playing. You go to the website, you figure out how to get the tickets, you wanted to do it first, and then that promoted you to action in church. We give all the information and hope that that's going to promote people to action, and it has the opposite effect. 00:16:12:12 - 00:16:38:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you back up your church announcements with a good website, that's always up to date, you can get on stage and make your announcements good closer to like a movie trailer. Esq knowing that your website is going to answer the questions that people are looking for. So my solution to this cable TV versus on demand world is I have a resource. 00:16:38:16 - 00:17:01:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I have a service called communications for you. It's where I will run your church communications. I will make your website. I'll keep it up to date. 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00:00 Nobody Knows What's Going on!
01:40 The Problem
03:58 The Goal
07:43 Reason #1
11:56 Reason #2
17:09 Reason #3

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TRANSCRIPT
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Do you ever feel

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like

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knows what's going on at your church? Like

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you feel like nobody is ever really listened to you when you're giving the announcements?

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Well, in this episode I want to talk about is the

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problem with most church and youth ministry announcements. So if you're a youth pastor person in church communication to pastor, this will help increase

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and uptake your engagement around announcements.

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I want to talk about the ultimate goal with all church announcements. And finally, stick around because I'm going to share with you three reasons that your church announcements may not be

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going as well as you think. Plus, one solution for each of those

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reasons,

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including a concept called

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inadvertent blindness. We're going to dive into that. And I have a free

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resource that I think can absolutely change the game for you.

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I

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think part

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of our problem here in 2025, in churches in North America, or let's just be honest around the world, is that we need to stop acting as churches. Look, we're in the 1990s

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and stop making boring announcements.

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Give me a like, if you've heard the stat that we as humans have a shorter attention span now than goldfish, if that's the case, then we definitely have to figure something out, because you have some great things going on at your church, and if people don't know about it, they can't get to them.

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Let's talk about it. Welcome, my friends, to the hybrid minstrel show. So what is our problem? Our ultimate problem with bad church announcements is that nobody is showing up or that, like, nobody even knows about what we have going on. I actually, I did a video, a while back called Youth Pastor or Event Coordinator. It's going to be linked right up here at the top of the screen if you're watching here on YouTube.

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But one of the things I've learned in my 14

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years of youth ministry experience is that attendance and, just people simply showing up. That's a really important factor to planning a good event. You can have an awesome event, but if you don't have people there, it's going to be a problem. And part of people getting there is knowing that the event is happening and understanding, knowing, hearing.

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And you know, like realizing that you're giving a church announcement that requires action out of them. And the video I explore this kind of tension, right? That many of us in ministry, church ministry, like, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, we feel about our jobs and it's this it's right. Is are we meant to be doing what we're doing to ultimately make disciples, or are we doing what we're doing to plan killer events?

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And sometimes, if you're anything like me, let's just be honest. It feels like we are our job. Like it has morphed much more into an event planner and I don't know about you, but that's not exactly why I got into youth ministry. Right? But the problem, right, that's the problem with our church announcements, is because we have an event and we want people to get to it.

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Poor attendance is the problem with bad church announcements. Okay. And so if attendance is our issue, if that's the baked in assumptions, that's the baked in desire. And when we say, nobody knows what's going on, it's because nobody is attending our events. That is the no. But that's who that is coming from. So let's take a step back then.

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Even more right than just the event, then just the good or not so good church announcement and ask ourselves, like, what is our

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goal around this event? What is our goal by giving this announcement? All right, so our goal just like the problem or the opposite, the problem, our goal is to get more people

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aware of and more people

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to know about the thing, the event, the Bible study, the workshop, like whatever it is.

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Right.

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Is that the goal? No, it's not our goal. At least not ultimately,

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at

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least not

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the meta goal. Right? Attendance is not necessary is really the goal in and of itself. But like I said, when we feel like event coordinators, it can feel like the goal, the goal in church ministry, the goal with all of your events, ultimately, the reason you're even having such and such event

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is

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life transformation.

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Give me a subscribe if you agree with that statement. Life transformation is the ultimate goal, not attendance. It certainly helps having people there at your event because if they're not there, how can their lives be transformed? So I'll give you that. But we have to stop making a Tennessee Ultimate goal. I have to start realizing that we're really trying to be in the business about life transformation, which is done and led down the path through disciple making.

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And so you have to remember that prior to the digital era, attendance was the means to accomplish that life transformation. But we live now in the digital era, and so we can reach people and we can, disseminate a message through much more efficient and effective means. Now, with cell phones and technology and podcasts and YouTube videos and social media and fill in whatever blank you want to write, you got to realize that it's getting people in the room was originally that goal towards life transformation, but that's not exactly the era that we're living in.

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So what is the goal? If the goal is life transformation, how can we accomplish that? And also, how can we accomplish that in the new digital

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era? Right.

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Churches

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like I referenced it in the intro, churches are operating like it's the 1990s. And here's what I mean by that. In the 1990s, if you want to do watch Seinfeld, you had to catch it live on NBC the night that it aired and debuted.

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And if you didn't, then you better hope that you have a good DVR, which I don't even know if those are existed in the 90s. And then if you didn't have that, then tough luck. Mean you're going to have to catch that sucker on syndication when it comes out in the summer.

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Compare that to the drop of Stranger Things season two, where my wife and I, pretty children watched the entire season on

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a Saturday, right?

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Like it's just a completely different mindset and framework. We live in a

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Netflix culture, not a cable TV culture, and so people when you have information, they're operating under the guise of it being Netflix, but we're treating it like cable TV, like we said, this thing I'm going to share with you the key to life. Feel like cool, tell me where to find it.

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And you're like, Sunday at 10:00, so only time to find it. That that's a huge cultural disconnect.

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So I have a few ideas of three different problems and a solution for each of the problem. Let's dive in.

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So one of the reasons that I think our church announcements can tend to be failing is this. This first concept here, I think, is just that we live in a culture with an oversaturation of noise.

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You know, there's so much noise around us. There's so much and so many things that are just simply vying for our attention. And so we as a church, we two are vying for people's attention, piling on, on, Karen, you have a podcast called Inadvertent Blindness. And what he said, he said, really? We really only see what we're looking for.

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And

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so the fact is, if people aren't looking for your church thing, again, that Netflix versus cable TV, if they're not looking for it, like, oh, I heard there was a retreat. So I'm going on the website to find the answer to it. Right? As opposed to us who we're like, we're dishing it out. We're like, well, we announced it on Sunday.

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They weren't looking for it on Sunday. Right? It's that oversaturation of noise, inadvertent blindness. Right. So if you think about some of the noises in the world, I shared this a couple videos back. I'll share it again here. It's going to be linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube to have you take a look. If you're in a podcast catcher, you can scroll down and click the link to our YouTube video.

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Love to have you over there. Give us a like you show it. But, show up over there. But this video here talks about how we spend our time, especially spending our time online and the online amount of time like that. We as as people, sociology, have spent time on phones and on devices has skyrocketed compared to some of the time prior to the invention of tech.

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Which, let's just be honest, it's not necessarily a surprise, but it is like it is a like factor that we have to deal with, right? In today's day and age. In 2025, people that don't know what's going on, it's probably because there's so much to pay attention to. So

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my proposal, right, my solution is get my free hybrid strategy guide.

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It's linked down below in the show notes. And the reason why that's important is because that will help you shift in some areas from a cable TV culture, where the only time that people can hear you hear the message of Jesus, hear your announcements, whatever the case may be to more of a Netflix culture and it just it encourages you to show up where people are spending their time, which is on social media.

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Right. Give me a segue. Right. If you've ever heard or thought this before, like, hey, we need to get the word out, let's blitz our social channels. And if all you're ever doing is blitzing your social channels with getting the word out, then you're just turning your social channels into an announcement bulletin board. And that's not what those were made for.

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And so you're going to have a less effective reach on those social channels because you're not using them what they were made for. Instead, send an announcement out via like a push notification, a text message, or even like update it on the calendar, right? And like and like what we do is like we encourage our parents, our students to just like, subscribe to our Google Calendar.

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And so something changes. It changes on our end. It'll change on their end if they're subscribed to it in their where in their calendar,

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which is what, like an event. That's where an event is meant to be inside a calendar, but not just on your church calendar, on your church website that you want people to go to so that they know about your event.

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You want it to somehow get to their

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personal calendar. That's how people live their lives through their calendars. So use the things that are meant to be used for the purposes that they're made for. And you use social media for the purposes that it's made. For my hybrid strategy, God will help you knock social media out of the park and become more hybrid with some of your messages and other, channels and usages on social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the second reason that I believe that some of our church announcements are falling flat is because we as churches are living in a cable TV mentality versus a Netflix or an on demand mentality. Or like, you understand, we've been talking about that in this video. The person who, I think has helped navigate that best for churches is, Brady Scheer up at Pro Church Tools.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, he has a website builder called nucleus. And now, whether you use his website builder or not, and if you don't really have experience building websites, then I 100% recommend nucleus because it's a church, website builder for churches and by church like people. And so you don't have to have a ton of like, website skills to make it happen.

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Like a noob like me can build a website using nucleus. But more than that, like what I want you to understand is that his concept behind it being nucleus is that every church announcement is done on the website. And so as opposed to like you getting up on the stage and

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saying,

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if you

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want like information about bunco night talk to do your aunt Sally.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you want information about the youth retreat, talk to youth pastor Ryan. And if you want to give, you can give via, our website. You can do text to give. You can scan this QR code for Venmo. We have Apple Pay, we have Google Pay. And, if you want to know about the prayer meeting, email Chuck.

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Chuck at our church.com and the kids ministry has a big camp out thing coming up. Swing by and grab a flier in the lobby

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like

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there

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were five different call to actions in that, right? There's Sally, there's the youth pastor. There's any different amalgamation of giving opportunities. There's emailing, and then there's a flier. And he said,

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make your nucleus, make your church website, your one stop shop.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I created a video. I'll link it down below. A couple weeks back. And the video is literally titled, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me. And in it, I talk about my three step strategy guide, which you'll get some of that in my hybrid ministry, strategy guide if you download that from earlier.

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But in the video, the three step strategy is step number one update and keep your website up to date. Your website should be a reliable one stop shop for everybody, and one of the ways to make your announcements better is to have the support of your website behind it. And so like for example, Brady uses this example all the time, like a trailer for a movie.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When you go to the theater, you're not like sitting there watching a trailer to a movie that you can't wait to see. And it ends with them being like, now on November 27th, it's going to be showing at 11, 1131, 115, 230. And that's going to be in theaters six theaters, seven is going to have at 315. Like, no, that's boring, but that's what we do as churches, right?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Bunco night. Here's all the details in the fellowship hall. Bring a dip to share. It's going to be on November 27th. It's going to be at 730. If you don't have any dice, make sure you contact your aunt Sally and she'll bring you an extra pair of dice. That's boring. And so we're trying to take information and make that be the thing that captures people, people's attention.

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And you know as well as I, especially for Chinese social media for that that's not what social is used for. Best, you're not going to get them hooked them with the information. And so what do we do to capture their attention? So a movie trailer is just like, you know, it like makes you like fall in love with the idea of this movie wicked.

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And then when it comes out, what do you do? You go discover when it's playing. You go to the website, you figure out how to get the tickets, you wanted to do it first, and then that promoted you to action in church. We give all the information and hope that that's going to promote people to action, and it has the opposite effect.

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And so if you back up your church announcements with a good website, that's always up to date, you can get on stage and make your announcements good closer to like a movie trailer. Esq knowing that your website is going to answer the questions that people are looking for. So my solution to this cable TV versus on demand world is I have a resource.

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I have a service called communications for you. It's where I will run your church communications. I will make your website. I'll keep it up to date. I can even help promote and manage some of your socials, and so you can explore more of what that looks like in the link down below. But I'm sure as I'm explaining, like you, you have a good website and all these things, you're like, that sounds great, I don't have time.

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I can make your announcements better by keeping

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your website behind you. Good, clean and up to date. And then reason number three is very simply, your announcements are just boring. Like they're just boring. And what I have for you is an announcement strategy that I want to encourage you to start steeling for better, more crisp and clearer church announcements.

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And

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that is going to be linked on the video in the very

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next, video, in this, playlist and in this series. And so that's going to be right here on screen. If you see that, go ahead and tap on in so that you can get better and less boring church announcements. We'll see you over there in that video.

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00:00 Nobody Knows What's Going on!
01:40 The Problem
03:58 The Goal
07:43 Reason #1
11:56 Reason #2
17:09 Reason #3

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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do you ever feel

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like

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knows what's going on at your church? Like

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you feel like nobody is ever really listened to you when you're giving the announcements?

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Well, in this episode I want to talk about is the

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problem with most church and youth ministry announcements. So if you're a youth pastor person in church communication to pastor, this will help increase

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and uptake your engagement around announcements.

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I want to talk about the ultimate goal with all church announcements. And finally, stick around because I'm going to share with you three reasons that your church announcements may not be

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going as well as you think. Plus, one solution for each of those

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reasons,

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including a concept called

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inadvertent blindness. We're going to dive into that. And I have a free

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resource that I think can absolutely change the game for you.

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I

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think part

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of our problem here in 2025, in churches in North America, or let's just be honest around the world, is that we need to stop acting as churches. Look, we're in the 1990s

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and stop making boring announcements.

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Give me a like, if you've heard the stat that we as humans have a shorter attention span now than goldfish, if that's the case, then we definitely have to figure something out, because you have some great things going on at your church, and if people don't know about it, they can't get to them.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let's talk about it. Welcome, my friends, to the hybrid minstrel show. So what is our problem? Our ultimate problem with bad church announcements is that nobody is showing up or that, like, nobody even knows about what we have going on. I actually, I did a video, a while back called Youth Pastor or Event Coordinator. It's going to be linked right up here at the top of the screen if you're watching here on YouTube.

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But one of the things I've learned in my 14

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years of youth ministry experience is that attendance and, just people simply showing up. That's a really important factor to planning a good event. You can have an awesome event, but if you don't have people there, it's going to be a problem. And part of people getting there is knowing that the event is happening and understanding, knowing, hearing.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you know, like realizing that you're giving a church announcement that requires action out of them. And the video I explore this kind of tension, right? That many of us in ministry, church ministry, like, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, we feel about our jobs and it's this it's right. Is are we meant to be doing what we're doing to ultimately make disciples, or are we doing what we're doing to plan killer events?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And sometimes, if you're anything like me, let's just be honest. It feels like we are our job. Like it has morphed much more into an event planner and I don't know about you, but that's not exactly why I got into youth ministry. Right? But the problem, right, that's the problem with our church announcements, is because we have an event and we want people to get to it.

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Poor attendance is the problem with bad church announcements. Okay. And so if attendance is our issue, if that's the baked in assumptions, that's the baked in desire. And when we say, nobody knows what's going on, it's because nobody is attending our events. That is the no. But that's who that is coming from. So let's take a step back then.

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Even more right than just the event, then just the good or not so good church announcement and ask ourselves, like, what is our

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goal around this event? What is our goal by giving this announcement? All right, so our goal just like the problem or the opposite, the problem, our goal is to get more people

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aware of and more people

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to know about the thing, the event, the Bible study, the workshop, like whatever it is.

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Right.

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Is that the goal? No, it's not our goal. At least not ultimately,

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at

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least not

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the meta goal. Right? Attendance is not necessary is really the goal in and of itself. But like I said, when we feel like event coordinators, it can feel like the goal, the goal in church ministry, the goal with all of your events, ultimately, the reason you're even having such and such event

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is

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life transformation.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a subscribe if you agree with that statement. Life transformation is the ultimate goal, not attendance. It certainly helps having people there at your event because if they're not there, how can their lives be transformed? So I'll give you that. But we have to stop making a Tennessee Ultimate goal. I have to start realizing that we're really trying to be in the business about life transformation, which is done and led down the path through disciple making.

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And so you have to remember that prior to the digital era, attendance was the means to accomplish that life transformation. But we live now in the digital era, and so we can reach people and we can, disseminate a message through much more efficient and effective means. Now, with cell phones and technology and podcasts and YouTube videos and social media and fill in whatever blank you want to write, you got to realize that it's getting people in the room was originally that goal towards life transformation, but that's not exactly the era that we're living in.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So what is the goal? If the goal is life transformation, how can we accomplish that? And also, how can we accomplish that in the new digital

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era? Right.

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Churches

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like I referenced it in the intro, churches are operating like it's the 1990s. And here's what I mean by that. In the 1990s, if you want to do watch Seinfeld, you had to catch it live on NBC the night that it aired and debuted.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you didn't, then you better hope that you have a good DVR, which I don't even know if those are existed in the 90s. And then if you didn't have that, then tough luck. Mean you're going to have to catch that sucker on syndication when it comes out in the summer.

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Compare that to the drop of Stranger Things season two, where my wife and I, pretty children watched the entire season on

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a Saturday, right?

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Like it's just a completely different mindset and framework. We live in a

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Netflix culture, not a cable TV culture, and so people when you have information, they're operating under the guise of it being Netflix, but we're treating it like cable TV, like we said, this thing I'm going to share with you the key to life. Feel like cool, tell me where to find it.

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And you're like, Sunday at 10:00, so only time to find it. That that's a huge cultural disconnect.

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So I have a few ideas of three different problems and a solution for each of the problem. Let's dive in.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So one of the reasons that I think our church announcements can tend to be failing is this. This first concept here, I think, is just that we live in a culture with an oversaturation of noise.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, there's so much noise around us. There's so much and so many things that are just simply vying for our attention. And so we as a church, we two are vying for people's attention, piling on, on, Karen, you have a podcast called Inadvertent Blindness. And what he said, he said, really? We really only see what we're looking for.

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And

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so the fact is, if people aren't looking for your church thing, again, that Netflix versus cable TV, if they're not looking for it, like, oh, I heard there was a retreat. So I'm going on the website to find the answer to it. Right? As opposed to us who we're like, we're dishing it out. We're like, well, we announced it on Sunday.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They weren't looking for it on Sunday. Right? It's that oversaturation of noise, inadvertent blindness. Right. So if you think about some of the noises in the world, I shared this a couple videos back. I'll share it again here. It's going to be linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube to have you take a look. If you're in a podcast catcher, you can scroll down and click the link to our YouTube video.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Love to have you over there. Give us a like you show it. But, show up over there. But this video here talks about how we spend our time, especially spending our time online and the online amount of time like that. We as as people, sociology, have spent time on phones and on devices has skyrocketed compared to some of the time prior to the invention of tech.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which, let's just be honest, it's not necessarily a surprise, but it is like it is a like factor that we have to deal with, right? In today's day and age. In 2025, people that don't know what's going on, it's probably because there's so much to pay attention to. So

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my proposal, right, my solution is get my free hybrid strategy guide.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's linked down below in the show notes. And the reason why that's important is because that will help you shift in some areas from a cable TV culture, where the only time that people can hear you hear the message of Jesus, hear your announcements, whatever the case may be to more of a Netflix culture and it just it encourages you to show up where people are spending their time, which is on social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. Give me a segue. Right. If you've ever heard or thought this before, like, hey, we need to get the word out, let's blitz our social channels. And if all you're ever doing is blitzing your social channels with getting the word out, then you're just turning your social channels into an announcement bulletin board. And that's not what those were made for.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you're going to have a less effective reach on those social channels because you're not using them what they were made for. Instead, send an announcement out via like a push notification, a text message, or even like update it on the calendar, right? And like and like what we do is like we encourage our parents, our students to just like, subscribe to our Google Calendar.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so something changes. It changes on our end. It'll change on their end if they're subscribed to it in their where in their calendar,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
which is what, like an event. That's where an event is meant to be inside a calendar, but not just on your church calendar, on your church website that you want people to go to so that they know about your event.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You want it to somehow get to their

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
personal calendar. That's how people live their lives through their calendars. So use the things that are meant to be used for the purposes that they're made for. And you use social media for the purposes that it's made. For my hybrid strategy, God will help you knock social media out of the park and become more hybrid with some of your messages and other, channels and usages on social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the second reason that I believe that some of our church announcements are falling flat is because we as churches are living in a cable TV mentality versus a Netflix or an on demand mentality. Or like, you understand, we've been talking about that in this video. The person who, I think has helped navigate that best for churches is, Brady Scheer up at Pro Church Tools.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, he has a website builder called nucleus. And now, whether you use his website builder or not, and if you don't really have experience building websites, then I 100% recommend nucleus because it's a church, website builder for churches and by church like people. And so you don't have to have a ton of like, website skills to make it happen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like a noob like me can build a website using nucleus. But more than that, like what I want you to understand is that his concept behind it being nucleus is that every church announcement is done on the website. And so as opposed to like you getting up on the stage and

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saying,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
if you

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
want like information about bunco night talk to do your aunt Sally.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you want information about the youth retreat, talk to youth pastor Ryan. And if you want to give, you can give via, our website. You can do text to give. You can scan this QR code for Venmo. We have Apple Pay, we have Google Pay. And, if you want to know about the prayer meeting, email Chuck.

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Chuck at our church.com and the kids ministry has a big camp out thing coming up. Swing by and grab a flier in the lobby

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
like

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there

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
were five different call to actions in that, right? There's Sally, there's the youth pastor. There's any different amalgamation of giving opportunities. There's emailing, and then there's a flier. And he said,

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make your nucleus, make your church website, your one stop shop.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I created a video. I'll link it down below. A couple weeks back. And the video is literally titled, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me. And in it, I talk about my three step strategy guide, which you'll get some of that in my hybrid ministry, strategy guide if you download that from earlier.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in the video, the three step strategy is step number one update and keep your website up to date. Your website should be a reliable one stop shop for everybody, and one of the ways to make your announcements better is to have the support of your website behind it. And so like for example, Brady uses this example all the time, like a trailer for a movie.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When you go to the theater, you're not like sitting there watching a trailer to a movie that you can't wait to see. And it ends with them being like, now on November 27th, it's going to be showing at 11, 1131, 115, 230. And that's going to be in theaters six theaters, seven is going to have at 315. Like, no, that's boring, but that's what we do as churches, right?

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Bunco night. Here's all the details in the fellowship hall. Bring a dip to share. It's going to be on November 27th. It's going to be at 730. If you don't have any dice, make sure you contact your aunt Sally and she'll bring you an extra pair of dice. That's boring. And so we're trying to take information and make that be the thing that captures people, people's attention.

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And you know as well as I, especially for Chinese social media for that that's not what social is used for. Best, you're not going to get them hooked them with the information. And so what do we do to capture their attention? So a movie trailer is just like, you know, it like makes you like fall in love with the idea of this movie wicked.

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And then when it comes out, what do you do? You go discover when it's playing. You go to the website, you figure out how to get the tickets, you wanted to do it first, and then that promoted you to action in church. We give all the information and hope that that's going to promote people to action, and it has the opposite effect.

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And so if you back up your church announcements with a good website, that's always up to date, you can get on stage and make your announcements good closer to like a movie trailer. Esq knowing that your website is going to answer the questions that people are looking for. So my solution to this cable TV versus on demand world is I have a resource.

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I have a service called communications for you. It's where I will run your church communications. I will make your website. I'll keep it up to date. I can even help promote and manage some of your socials, and so you can explore more of what that looks like in the link down below. But I'm sure as I'm explaining, like you, you have a good website and all these things, you're like, that sounds great, I don't have time.

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I can make your announcements better by keeping

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your website behind you. Good, clean and up to date. And then reason number three is very simply, your announcements are just boring. Like they're just boring. And what I have for you is an announcement strategy that I want to encourage you to start steeling for better, more crisp and clearer church announcements.

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And

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that is going to be linked on the video in the very

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next, video, in this, playlist and in this series. And so that's going to be right here on screen. If you see that, go ahead and tap on in so that you can get better and less boring church announcements. We'll see you over there in that video.

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And don't forget my friends as always to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 135: Rules for Teens - Building Real Relationships in a Digital Age https://www.hybridministry.xyz/135 1aa532cb-f7c9-45b5-bff5-3051f9ca180b Thu, 06 Feb 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 135 Rules for Teens - Building Real Relationships in a Digital Age full Nick Clason Social media has transformed how we connect, fueled by the rise of smartphones and evolving platforms. In this episode, we define social mediaโ€™s roots, from its early pioneers like MySpace and Facebook to todayโ€™s dynamic apps like TikTok, and explore how to use technology as a tool to foster authentic relationships. Plus, we share practical tips for building deeper connections and introduce a Phone-Free Family Planning Guide to help balance digital and real-world interactions. 16:55 no ๐ŸŽง Become a โ€œHybrid Hero" https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry ๐Ÿ“ฒ Phone Free Activity Guides https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/phone-free-event-guide-850030?source=storefront DESCRIPTION Social media has transformed how we connect, fueled by the rise of smartphones and evolving platforms. In this episode, we define social mediaโ€™s roots, from its early pioneers like MySpace and Facebook to todayโ€™s dynamic apps like TikTok, and explore how to use technology as a tool to foster authentic relationships. 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In fact, it's been growing since the beginning 00:00:06:20 - 00:00:19:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of time. I would probably attribute the majority of social media growth to the invention of, and the rising prevalence of access to smartphones. 00:00:19:03 - 00:00:19:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If 00:00:19:13 - 00:00:32:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you're watching this video here, go ahead and give me a like. If you remember the invention of the smartphone. And if you don't, then you owe me a subscribe because you're probably a teenager who has only ever had access to a smartphone. 00:00:32:18 - 00:00:56:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That juxtaposition right there is the inherent tension that exists between teenagers and parents who are navigating a brand new landscape. And so in this video, what I want to do, titled Building Real Relationships in the Digital Age, we're going to define what social media, even is. Everyone kind of carries in their own built in and baked in connotations of 00:00:56:21 - 00:00:58:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry but what is it really? 00:00:58:10 - 00:01:18:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm also going to share with you some real tips to building relationships in the digital age. And spoiler, some of those tips are actually going to be leaning into tech as a tool to enhance and build some of those relationships, and make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a phone free activity guide. 00:01:18:23 - 00:01:38:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what this is going to do is not only give you ideas of, you know, phone free activities that you can do, but it's going to help you navigate some of those conversations, especially with getting some of your friends maybe on board, to do an event that is more phone free, even though they may be a little bit more drawn to an addicted to their phones. 00:01:38:19 - 00:02:02:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's also going to help give you a framework as a family, how to also implement some of those events. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Minister show. Hey everybody, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Clayson. I've been a youth pastor and in youth ministry for 14, going on 14.5, soon to be 15 years. 00:02:02:23 - 00:02:05:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you're watching here on YouTube, you'll see a chart 00:02:05:04 - 00:02:27:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that defines social media usage from the beginning of 2012 all the way through when this data was captured in 2023. And I just want to let you know that if you're not watching on YouTube or if you're in the podcast, catch wherever you're listening. There are chapters included so that you can kind of hopper and skip around to the parts of this video that kind of make the most sense to you. 00:02:27:01 - 00:02:50:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But as we're looking at this chart, whether you're watching on YouTube or you just listening to me, describe it via your audio podcast feed, you see that in January of 2012, there were just over, 1400 users of different social accounts. Fast forward to January of 2023, and as you can imagine, that number has ballooned up to 4760. 00:02:50:08 - 00:02:57:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's probably a surely greater than 5000 now at this point, as we have surpassed into 2025 00:02:57:03 - 00:02:57:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and 00:02:57:16 - 00:03:21:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry beyond. Well, what exactly is. I think this is important. Right. And so like if you're a chapter person, you move skip this one like the definition of social media. But I think it's important for us to take a quick step back, peel back the curtain a little bit, and really try and understand what social media not only is, but where it's coming from. 00:03:21:17 - 00:03:40:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's inherent like reason for even existing in the first place. And so I tried my best. I looked across some websites, I use some I, but at the end of the day, the definition that I sort of came to and use some different like articles for their link down below if you want to read them, is that social media is 00:03:40:04 - 00:03:53:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry online communication designed to create networks and communities where ideas, information, messages, photos, etc. can be freely shared. 00:03:53:08 - 00:04:17:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you think about what's baked into that definition, is the desire for a lot of different things communication, messages, photos, ideas, right? Like it is evolved to a spot where it's more than just a photo sharing avenue or a video sharing avenue. You can communicate ideas. You can communicate information, you can create networks, you can find people. 00:04:18:00 - 00:04:46:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But at the base of it all is social is what it's social, right? At least in its original iteration. And it's original. Inception. The idea and the purpose behind social media was creating community and networks and connections where you could keep up with people you know. Many of us would trace socials roots back to the invention of Facebook and what Zuckerberg did on Harvard's campus. 00:04:46:10 - 00:05:17:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But believe it or not, social existed even before that. And I would say you could kind of trace some of its ideas back to the 90s when blogs were invented, you know, blogs kind of planted this idea in the world's heads that people, individual people, people outside of the traditional news media outlets and news sources that they could post whatever and whenever they wanted and receive feedback in live time without having to go through that pesky use. 00:05:17:01 - 00:05:39:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like I said of like that third party. And so if you're watching here on YouTube, if you're not linked down below in the show notes hybrid ministry.xyz/135. I use this article from Broadband and Search. It's an article. What it did is it traced some of the very original social networks. So in 1997, some of you might not even know this if you don't give me a like. 00:05:39:09 - 00:06:07:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But six degrees was was what this, this article brought in search what they define as the very first social platform. And then following that in 2002, Friendster and Myspace and LinkedIn all were invented, and Twitter was in 2006. And then Facebook finally came and burst on the scene in, I believe this 2000 and, four, when we officially got the launch of Facebook. 00:06:07:08 - 00:06:33:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as you know, it originally launched only as an exclusive opportunity on the Harvard campus, but it soon expanded beyond that. And by 2008, Facebook overtook Myspace as the most visited website in the world. 2010 is when Instagram launched, and that's actually when I dived in, dove in, to being a youth pastor. And so, I always say, I was an Instagram baby as a youth pastor. 00:06:33:03 - 00:07:01:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, I've been around as a youth pastor as long as Instagram has been around, and Instagram launched originally as sort of just a photo sharing app, is meant to be a little bit more artsy than that. Maybe what was going on over in Facebook. And then 2011, Snapchat came. And Snapchat has ushered in a lot of different features that different platforms, especially with the idea of like stories have kind of adopted and made a very like big staple on their platform especially I'm looking at you Instagram and Facebook. 00:07:01:17 - 00:07:13:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then in 2016, TikTok was invented. And in 2020, a few years after the invention of TikTok, it took the world by storm and frankly, ushered in a new social era. 00:07:13:12 - 00:07:24:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, give me a like if you know that as you've watched videos on TikTok recently, do you even recognize or know the people that have posted the videos that you're watching? 00:07:24:13 - 00:07:38:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's the new era, right? Social, in its original iteration, was meant to be about connections and networks, but now it's much more about maybe entertainment, sharing ideas, or even just like humor, right? And 00:07:38:11 - 00:07:38:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry laughing 00:07:38:21 - 00:07:39:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and sharing 00:07:39:07 - 00:07:52:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry things that cause people to laugh. And like I said, you can draw a thread all the way back, especially to the origin of some of these, to the idea behind friendship and community. 00:07:52:09 - 00:08:11:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And speaking of tracing a thread all the way back again, if you're watching here on YouTube, you've seen other chart from that broadband and search article, and it just, lays out the history of social, social platforms and social networks. Go ahead and take a screenshot of that and you can study that later on in your time. But what I want to move on to is I want to 00:08:11:01 - 00:08:19:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry kind of ask this question, how can we build relationships in a digitally based world? 00:08:19:01 - 00:08:36:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, there's, a video that I came across, during kind of like Christmas break, New Year's time, and it shows and I'll, I'll link it here on screen. You can go ahead and take a look at it, but it shows how humans have spent their time over the course of history. And like the 40s and 50s, is primarily family. 00:08:36:21 - 00:09:01:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then quickly friends took over that top spot on the kind of bar graph. But then as soon as the internet was existed, boom, it skyrocketed to the top. And what we know is that while in its original form, social was created for human ideas and connection, it has sort of supplanted what it was originally brought into. Meaningful right? 00:09:01:04 - 00:09:03:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It was meant for us to connect better. But while 00:09:03:23 - 00:09:38:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry there's still a possibility of that happening, you know just as well as AI that some of us can spend mindless amounts of time, energy, hours and effort on social media if we're not intentional. So how do we get back to the roots of what we want? Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, getting rid of phones and screens and social altogether, but using it in a way that's hygienic in a 2025, always on digitally focused world, I have three tips on how you can build relationships in a digital world. 00:09:38:23 - 00:09:45:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the first is so simple, right? It's just put the phone down, right. 00:09:45:14 - 00:10:01:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that might seem so obvious and that might seem so basic to you, but the reason why this is important is because you need to understand that the our phones and social and some of these apps are intentionally designed to release a chemical called dopamine. 00:10:01:01 - 00:10:10:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm sure you've heard this before. When you get a notification or when you doom scroll, they're built to be intentionally addictive. 00:10:10:10 - 00:10:25:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so while their art is good and while there can be value behind it, and as youth pastors and parents, we know we can use it even as a tool in our own lives, in our own ministries, in our own families, we also know that they're built to be intentionally addictive. 00:10:25:14 - 00:10:41:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So create a space where you can learn how to put the phone down. In fact, if you go back to the very first episode linked, in the playlist linked right here, the top of the screen, about detoxing in a always on tech filled world, I give some tips. There's even a worksheet 00:10:41:22 - 00:10:47:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in that video about getting rid and creating kind of phone free environments. 00:10:47:09 - 00:10:51:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I believe if you, look at the worksheet in that one, I have linked like a phone 00:10:51:08 - 00:10:51:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry jail. 00:10:52:04 - 00:11:04:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What if you did something so dramatic in your own life or your own family, where you created, like a phone jail or a phone locker kind of speak so that you could put it down and you can force yourself to not go back and pick it up. 00:11:05:01 - 00:11:24:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, I made a New Year's resolution this year that when I got home from work, I want from the time I get home from work until bedtime with my kids, I want it to be phone free. Like I want to put my phone down. I want to live my life and I hope, listen. I host a podcast called The Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:11:24:10 - 00:11:39:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, I'm all about digital. I'm all about technology. But I also don't want technology to run me. I want it to be a part of my life that's useful and meaningful and that I use. But I don't want it to run me. And so I want to put my phone on, and I want to live my life 00:11:39:23 - 00:11:40:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with my family. 00:11:40:20 - 00:11:55:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The second idea I have for you is that why you should put your phone down? I'm speaking to those of you who are kind of hard chargers, like, yeah, like get rid of it. The second piece is tech can enhance relationships. So while you 00:11:55:15 - 00:12:03:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry should put your phone down so that you can live your life so that you can enhance those relationships, which is what social was built on foundationally in the first place. 00:12:03:08 - 00:12:22:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Tech is a tool to be used like I just minutes ago. I am late at night, got done watching a basketball game. Shout out to the Oklahoma City Thunder 13 game win streak, longest in franchise history. I was texting my friend in Minnesota hours away, and we're texting about sports and basketball and life. 00:12:22:09 - 00:12:27:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, I haven't seen him in person in months, but our relationship still exists. 00:12:27:17 - 00:12:51:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We send memes to each other in real, and we text each other and we'll call each other and we'll chat through life. And, you know, monumental moments like tech can still enhance and keep a relationship going, right? I think about group chats. I even think about silly things like sharing memes and reels. I think that's a way in today's day and age, in 2025 and beyond, that can be a love language, so to speak. 00:12:51:02 - 00:13:16:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, like I have a resident now who, was off social media because he was trying to, like, focus more time on his schoolwork. And I, would screenshot or screen record reels or memes of things. He's a big office guy, and we would kind of connect on those, and I'd send this to him in text and he'd be like, thank you for knowing and noticing that I'm not social and for sending this to me so that I can actually, like, see these things. 00:13:16:11 - 00:13:37:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Like it's still a way to connect as a matter of the medium. Like it just is a way for us to kind of like share some things, ideas and laugh together. And so that's where this saw this whole idea of hybrid comes in responsible usage. Put it down, but understand that it can still be a tool. The third idea I have for you is create rules for yourselves. 00:13:37:19 - 00:13:43:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or perhaps if you're a parent, a teenager, if you're a youth pastor, this is where I want to encourage you to maybe 00:13:43:11 - 00:13:54:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry download and share this resource with some of your parents. But what are some of the rules that you can help your teenagers? And, you know, their parents like, create for themselves and create for their families? 00:13:54:23 - 00:13:58:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like I said, I want to try to challenge myself to go phone free from when I get 00:13:58:10 - 00:14:31:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry home from work until my kids go to bed. I don't know what those rules are, but let let break some of those in. You know what? Link down below in episode 131 hybrid Administrator Xyzzy slash 131, I interviewed my friend Ronald, who is, host of the Middle School Ministry podcast, but he also is dad to middle schoolers and he had some fantastic ideas and some fantastic tips about how you can implement this idea of digital to your children, to your kids in a meaningful way, but also in a way that is going to like, help, 00:14:31:20 - 00:14:49:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry help them kind of earn the responsibility of having tech and phones and digital. And so I can't give you like a one size fits all rule. I can, but I don't think that that's wise. I think you need to learn and lean in and kind of learn and discern what needs to go on in your family and with you in particular. 00:14:49:02 - 00:15:18:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so while you may be, I don't want a smartphone at all, I want a dumb phone. Only that can be your rule. But don't make that the rule for everybody. Others. It might be like, I just want to limit my usage. I want to put, you know, timers on my apps. I want whatever that's where. And, you know, episode 132 I laid out the digital detox kind of like ideas, and it comes with some just ideas of rules and maybe some things that you can like, create for yourself, or that you and your teenager can kind of work together and create for yourself. 00:15:18:18 - 00:15:24:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if the whole goal. Right, like if we set the whole goal of social and its original form 00:15:24:11 - 00:15:57:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry was connection to humans, maybe, just maybe, the the the phone usage, screen usage has gone a little bit out of balance, has become a little bit more than we ever sort of bargained for. And so that's why I created this screen free guide, a way to, encourage ways to have screen free or phone free, times with friends and helping kind of facilitate that for your middle school or your high school or and even encouraging and how to kind of go about that and even get that kind of conversation started. 00:15:57:11 - 00:16:19:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And also maybe not just for friends, but also for you as a family. Right. And and maybe while we might be frustrated as parents or as guardians or even as youth pastors with our teenage teenagers usage and maybe even dependance on technology, maybe we have to take a good hard look at ourselves, and maybe they're modeling their usage after us. 00:16:19:12 - 00:16:42:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or at least they're seeing us. Maybe not being as mindful about it as maybe we hope to be. So that's going to be linked down below. 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Social

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media usage has been growing. In fact, it's been growing since the beginning

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of time. I would probably attribute the majority of social media growth to the invention of, and the rising prevalence of access to smartphones.

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If

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you're watching this video here, go ahead and give me a like. If you remember the invention of the smartphone. And if you don't, then you owe me a subscribe because you're probably a teenager who has only ever had access to a smartphone.

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That juxtaposition right there is the inherent tension that exists between teenagers and parents who are navigating a brand new landscape. And so in this video, what I want to do, titled Building Real Relationships in the Digital Age, we're going to define what social media, even is. Everyone kind of carries in their own built in and baked in connotations of

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but what is it really?

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I'm also going to share with you some real tips to building relationships in the digital age. And spoiler, some of those tips are actually going to be leaning into tech as a tool to enhance and build some of those relationships, and make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a phone free activity guide.

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And what this is going to do is not only give you ideas of, you know, phone free activities that you can do, but it's going to help you navigate some of those conversations, especially with getting some of your friends maybe on board, to do an event that is more phone free, even though they may be a little bit more drawn to an addicted to their phones.

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And it's also going to help give you a framework as a family, how to also implement some of those events. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Minister show. Hey everybody, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Clayson. I've been a youth pastor and in youth ministry for 14, going on 14.5, soon to be 15 years.

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And if you're watching here on YouTube, you'll see a chart

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that defines social media usage from the beginning of 2012 all the way through when this data was captured in 2023. And I just want to let you know that if you're not watching on YouTube or if you're in the podcast, catch wherever you're listening. There are chapters included so that you can kind of hopper and skip around to the parts of this video that kind of make the most sense to you.

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But as we're looking at this chart, whether you're watching on YouTube or you just listening to me, describe it via your audio podcast feed, you see that in January of 2012, there were just over, 1400 users of different social accounts. Fast forward to January of 2023, and as you can imagine, that number has ballooned up to 4760.

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And it's probably a surely greater than 5000 now at this point, as we have surpassed into 2025

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and

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beyond. Well, what exactly is. I think this is important. Right. And so like if you're a chapter person, you move skip this one like the definition of social media. But I think it's important for us to take a quick step back, peel back the curtain a little bit, and really try and understand what social media not only is, but where it's coming from.

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And it's inherent like reason for even existing in the first place. And so I tried my best. I looked across some websites, I use some I, but at the end of the day, the definition that I sort of came to and use some different like articles for their link down below if you want to read them, is that social media is

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online communication designed to create networks and communities where ideas, information, messages, photos, etc. can be freely shared.

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And if you think about what's baked into that definition, is the desire for a lot of different things communication, messages, photos, ideas, right? Like it is evolved to a spot where it's more than just a photo sharing avenue or a video sharing avenue. You can communicate ideas. You can communicate information, you can create networks, you can find people.

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But at the base of it all is social is what it's social, right? At least in its original iteration. And it's original. Inception. The idea and the purpose behind social media was creating community and networks and connections where you could keep up with people you know. Many of us would trace socials roots back to the invention of Facebook and what Zuckerberg did on Harvard's campus.

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But believe it or not, social existed even before that. And I would say you could kind of trace some of its ideas back to the 90s when blogs were invented, you know, blogs kind of planted this idea in the world's heads that people, individual people, people outside of the traditional news media outlets and news sources that they could post whatever and whenever they wanted and receive feedback in live time without having to go through that pesky use.

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Like I said of like that third party. And so if you're watching here on YouTube, if you're not linked down below in the show notes hybrid ministry.xyz/135. I use this article from Broadband and Search. It's an article. What it did is it traced some of the very original social networks. So in 1997, some of you might not even know this if you don't give me a like.

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But six degrees was was what this, this article brought in search what they define as the very first social platform. And then following that in 2002, Friendster and Myspace and LinkedIn all were invented, and Twitter was in 2006. And then Facebook finally came and burst on the scene in, I believe this 2000 and, four, when we officially got the launch of Facebook.

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And as you know, it originally launched only as an exclusive opportunity on the Harvard campus, but it soon expanded beyond that. And by 2008, Facebook overtook Myspace as the most visited website in the world. 2010 is when Instagram launched, and that's actually when I dived in, dove in, to being a youth pastor. And so, I always say, I was an Instagram baby as a youth pastor.

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And so, I've been around as a youth pastor as long as Instagram has been around, and Instagram launched originally as sort of just a photo sharing app, is meant to be a little bit more artsy than that. Maybe what was going on over in Facebook. And then 2011, Snapchat came. And Snapchat has ushered in a lot of different features that different platforms, especially with the idea of like stories have kind of adopted and made a very like big staple on their platform especially I'm looking at you Instagram and Facebook.

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And then in 2016, TikTok was invented. And in 2020, a few years after the invention of TikTok, it took the world by storm and frankly, ushered in a new social era.

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You know, give me a like if you know that as you've watched videos on TikTok recently, do you even recognize or know the people that have posted the videos that you're watching?

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That's the new era, right? Social, in its original iteration, was meant to be about connections and networks, but now it's much more about maybe entertainment, sharing ideas, or even just like humor, right? And

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laughing

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and sharing

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things that cause people to laugh. And like I said, you can draw a thread all the way back, especially to the origin of some of these, to the idea behind friendship and community.

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And speaking of tracing a thread all the way back again, if you're watching here on YouTube, you've seen other chart from that broadband and search article, and it just, lays out the history of social, social platforms and social networks. Go ahead and take a screenshot of that and you can study that later on in your time. But what I want to move on to is I want to

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kind of ask this question, how can we build relationships in a digitally based world?

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You know, there's, a video that I came across, during kind of like Christmas break, New Year's time, and it shows and I'll, I'll link it here on screen. You can go ahead and take a look at it, but it shows how humans have spent their time over the course of history. And like the 40s and 50s, is primarily family.

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And then quickly friends took over that top spot on the kind of bar graph. But then as soon as the internet was existed, boom, it skyrocketed to the top. And what we know is that while in its original form, social was created for human ideas and connection, it has sort of supplanted what it was originally brought into. Meaningful right?

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It was meant for us to connect better. But while

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there's still a possibility of that happening, you know just as well as AI that some of us can spend mindless amounts of time, energy, hours and effort on social media if we're not intentional. So how do we get back to the roots of what we want? Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, getting rid of phones and screens and social altogether, but using it in a way that's hygienic in a 2025, always on digitally focused world, I have three tips on how you can build relationships in a digital world.

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And the first is so simple, right? It's just put the phone down, right.

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And that might seem so obvious and that might seem so basic to you, but the reason why this is important is because you need to understand that the our phones and social and some of these apps are intentionally designed to release a chemical called dopamine.

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I'm sure you've heard this before. When you get a notification or when you doom scroll, they're built to be intentionally addictive.

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And so while their art is good and while there can be value behind it, and as youth pastors and parents, we know we can use it even as a tool in our own lives, in our own ministries, in our own families, we also know that they're built to be intentionally addictive.

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So create a space where you can learn how to put the phone down. In fact, if you go back to the very first episode linked, in the playlist linked right here, the top of the screen, about detoxing in a always on tech filled world, I give some tips. There's even a worksheet

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in that video about getting rid and creating kind of phone free environments.

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I believe if you, look at the worksheet in that one, I have linked like a phone

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jail.

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What if you did something so dramatic in your own life or your own family, where you created, like a phone jail or a phone locker kind of speak so that you could put it down and you can force yourself to not go back and pick it up.

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In fact, I made a New Year's resolution this year that when I got home from work, I want from the time I get home from work until bedtime with my kids, I want it to be phone free. Like I want to put my phone down. I want to live my life and I hope, listen. I host a podcast called The Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Like, I'm all about digital. I'm all about technology. But I also don't want technology to run me. I want it to be a part of my life that's useful and meaningful and that I use. But I don't want it to run me. And so I want to put my phone on, and I want to live my life

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with my family.

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The second idea I have for you is that why you should put your phone down? I'm speaking to those of you who are kind of hard chargers, like, yeah, like get rid of it. The second piece is tech can enhance relationships. So while you

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should put your phone down so that you can live your life so that you can enhance those relationships, which is what social was built on foundationally in the first place.

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Tech is a tool to be used like I just minutes ago. I am late at night, got done watching a basketball game. Shout out to the Oklahoma City Thunder 13 game win streak, longest in franchise history. I was texting my friend in Minnesota hours away, and we're texting about sports and basketball and life.

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Like, I haven't seen him in person in months, but our relationship still exists.

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We send memes to each other in real, and we text each other and we'll call each other and we'll chat through life. And, you know, monumental moments like tech can still enhance and keep a relationship going, right? I think about group chats. I even think about silly things like sharing memes and reels. I think that's a way in today's day and age, in 2025 and beyond, that can be a love language, so to speak.

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You know, like I have a resident now who, was off social media because he was trying to, like, focus more time on his schoolwork. And I, would screenshot or screen record reels or memes of things. He's a big office guy, and we would kind of connect on those, and I'd send this to him in text and he'd be like, thank you for knowing and noticing that I'm not social and for sending this to me so that I can actually, like, see these things.

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Right. Like it's still a way to connect as a matter of the medium. Like it just is a way for us to kind of like share some things, ideas and laugh together. And so that's where this saw this whole idea of hybrid comes in responsible usage. Put it down, but understand that it can still be a tool. The third idea I have for you is create rules for yourselves.

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Or perhaps if you're a parent, a teenager, if you're a youth pastor, this is where I want to encourage you to maybe

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download and share this resource with some of your parents. But what are some of the rules that you can help your teenagers? And, you know, their parents like, create for themselves and create for their families?

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Like I said, I want to try to challenge myself to go phone free from when I get

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home from work until my kids go to bed. I don't know what those rules are, but let let break some of those in. You know what? Link down below in episode 131 hybrid Administrator Xyzzy slash 131, I interviewed my friend Ronald, who is, host of the Middle School Ministry podcast, but he also is dad to middle schoolers and he had some fantastic ideas and some fantastic tips about how you can implement this idea of digital to your children, to your kids in a meaningful way, but also in a way that is going to like, help,

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help them kind of earn the responsibility of having tech and phones and digital. And so I can't give you like a one size fits all rule. I can, but I don't think that that's wise. I think you need to learn and lean in and kind of learn and discern what needs to go on in your family and with you in particular.

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And so while you may be, I don't want a smartphone at all, I want a dumb phone. Only that can be your rule. But don't make that the rule for everybody. Others. It might be like, I just want to limit my usage. I want to put, you know, timers on my apps. I want whatever that's where. And, you know, episode 132 I laid out the digital detox kind of like ideas, and it comes with some just ideas of rules and maybe some things that you can like, create for yourself, or that you and your teenager can kind of work together and create for yourself.

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But if the whole goal. Right, like if we set the whole goal of social and its original form

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was connection to humans, maybe, just maybe, the the the phone usage, screen usage has gone a little bit out of balance, has become a little bit more than we ever sort of bargained for. And so that's why I created this screen free guide, a way to, encourage ways to have screen free or phone free, times with friends and helping kind of facilitate that for your middle school or your high school or and even encouraging and how to kind of go about that and even get that kind of conversation started.

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And also maybe not just for friends, but also for you as a family. Right. And and maybe while we might be frustrated as parents or as guardians or even as youth pastors with our teenage teenagers usage and maybe even dependance on technology, maybe we have to take a good hard look at ourselves, and maybe they're modeling their usage after us.

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Or at least they're seeing us. Maybe not being as mindful about it as maybe we hope to be. So that's going to be linked down below. Again, if you're a parent, youth pastor or whatever, I hope that you grab it, use it, send it, share it with a friend. But I also want to encourage you to to help create more opportunities to build real relationships in this digital age and in this cell phone era.

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TRANSCRIPT
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Social

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media usage has been growing. In fact, it's been growing since the beginning

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of time. I would probably attribute the majority of social media growth to the invention of, and the rising prevalence of access to smartphones.

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If

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you're watching this video here, go ahead and give me a like. If you remember the invention of the smartphone. And if you don't, then you owe me a subscribe because you're probably a teenager who has only ever had access to a smartphone.

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That juxtaposition right there is the inherent tension that exists between teenagers and parents who are navigating a brand new landscape. And so in this video, what I want to do, titled Building Real Relationships in the Digital Age, we're going to define what social media, even is. Everyone kind of carries in their own built in and baked in connotations of

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but what is it really?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm also going to share with you some real tips to building relationships in the digital age. And spoiler, some of those tips are actually going to be leaning into tech as a tool to enhance and build some of those relationships, and make sure that you stick around to the very end of the video, because I have for you a phone free activity guide.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what this is going to do is not only give you ideas of, you know, phone free activities that you can do, but it's going to help you navigate some of those conversations, especially with getting some of your friends maybe on board, to do an event that is more phone free, even though they may be a little bit more drawn to an addicted to their phones.

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And it's also going to help give you a framework as a family, how to also implement some of those events. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Minister show. Hey everybody, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet. My name is Nick Clayson. I've been a youth pastor and in youth ministry for 14, going on 14.5, soon to be 15 years.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you're watching here on YouTube, you'll see a chart

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that defines social media usage from the beginning of 2012 all the way through when this data was captured in 2023. And I just want to let you know that if you're not watching on YouTube or if you're in the podcast, catch wherever you're listening. There are chapters included so that you can kind of hopper and skip around to the parts of this video that kind of make the most sense to you.

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But as we're looking at this chart, whether you're watching on YouTube or you just listening to me, describe it via your audio podcast feed, you see that in January of 2012, there were just over, 1400 users of different social accounts. Fast forward to January of 2023, and as you can imagine, that number has ballooned up to 4760.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's probably a surely greater than 5000 now at this point, as we have surpassed into 2025

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and

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beyond. Well, what exactly is. I think this is important. Right. And so like if you're a chapter person, you move skip this one like the definition of social media. But I think it's important for us to take a quick step back, peel back the curtain a little bit, and really try and understand what social media not only is, but where it's coming from.

00:03:21:17 - 00:03:40:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's inherent like reason for even existing in the first place. And so I tried my best. I looked across some websites, I use some I, but at the end of the day, the definition that I sort of came to and use some different like articles for their link down below if you want to read them, is that social media is

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online communication designed to create networks and communities where ideas, information, messages, photos, etc. can be freely shared.

00:03:53:08 - 00:04:17:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you think about what's baked into that definition, is the desire for a lot of different things communication, messages, photos, ideas, right? Like it is evolved to a spot where it's more than just a photo sharing avenue or a video sharing avenue. You can communicate ideas. You can communicate information, you can create networks, you can find people.

00:04:18:00 - 00:04:46:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But at the base of it all is social is what it's social, right? At least in its original iteration. And it's original. Inception. The idea and the purpose behind social media was creating community and networks and connections where you could keep up with people you know. Many of us would trace socials roots back to the invention of Facebook and what Zuckerberg did on Harvard's campus.

00:04:46:10 - 00:05:17:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But believe it or not, social existed even before that. And I would say you could kind of trace some of its ideas back to the 90s when blogs were invented, you know, blogs kind of planted this idea in the world's heads that people, individual people, people outside of the traditional news media outlets and news sources that they could post whatever and whenever they wanted and receive feedback in live time without having to go through that pesky use.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like I said of like that third party. And so if you're watching here on YouTube, if you're not linked down below in the show notes hybrid ministry.xyz/135. I use this article from Broadband and Search. It's an article. What it did is it traced some of the very original social networks. So in 1997, some of you might not even know this if you don't give me a like.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But six degrees was was what this, this article brought in search what they define as the very first social platform. And then following that in 2002, Friendster and Myspace and LinkedIn all were invented, and Twitter was in 2006. And then Facebook finally came and burst on the scene in, I believe this 2000 and, four, when we officially got the launch of Facebook.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as you know, it originally launched only as an exclusive opportunity on the Harvard campus, but it soon expanded beyond that. And by 2008, Facebook overtook Myspace as the most visited website in the world. 2010 is when Instagram launched, and that's actually when I dived in, dove in, to being a youth pastor. And so, I always say, I was an Instagram baby as a youth pastor.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I've been around as a youth pastor as long as Instagram has been around, and Instagram launched originally as sort of just a photo sharing app, is meant to be a little bit more artsy than that. Maybe what was going on over in Facebook. And then 2011, Snapchat came. And Snapchat has ushered in a lot of different features that different platforms, especially with the idea of like stories have kind of adopted and made a very like big staple on their platform especially I'm looking at you Instagram and Facebook.

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And then in 2016, TikTok was invented. And in 2020, a few years after the invention of TikTok, it took the world by storm and frankly, ushered in a new social era.

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You know, give me a like if you know that as you've watched videos on TikTok recently, do you even recognize or know the people that have posted the videos that you're watching?

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That's the new era, right? Social, in its original iteration, was meant to be about connections and networks, but now it's much more about maybe entertainment, sharing ideas, or even just like humor, right? And

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laughing

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and sharing

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things that cause people to laugh. And like I said, you can draw a thread all the way back, especially to the origin of some of these, to the idea behind friendship and community.

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And speaking of tracing a thread all the way back again, if you're watching here on YouTube, you've seen other chart from that broadband and search article, and it just, lays out the history of social, social platforms and social networks. Go ahead and take a screenshot of that and you can study that later on in your time. But what I want to move on to is I want to

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kind of ask this question, how can we build relationships in a digitally based world?

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You know, there's, a video that I came across, during kind of like Christmas break, New Year's time, and it shows and I'll, I'll link it here on screen. You can go ahead and take a look at it, but it shows how humans have spent their time over the course of history. And like the 40s and 50s, is primarily family.

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And then quickly friends took over that top spot on the kind of bar graph. But then as soon as the internet was existed, boom, it skyrocketed to the top. And what we know is that while in its original form, social was created for human ideas and connection, it has sort of supplanted what it was originally brought into. Meaningful right?

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It was meant for us to connect better. But while

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there's still a possibility of that happening, you know just as well as AI that some of us can spend mindless amounts of time, energy, hours and effort on social media if we're not intentional. So how do we get back to the roots of what we want? Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, getting rid of phones and screens and social altogether, but using it in a way that's hygienic in a 2025, always on digitally focused world, I have three tips on how you can build relationships in a digital world.

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And the first is so simple, right? It's just put the phone down, right.

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And that might seem so obvious and that might seem so basic to you, but the reason why this is important is because you need to understand that the our phones and social and some of these apps are intentionally designed to release a chemical called dopamine.

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I'm sure you've heard this before. When you get a notification or when you doom scroll, they're built to be intentionally addictive.

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And so while their art is good and while there can be value behind it, and as youth pastors and parents, we know we can use it even as a tool in our own lives, in our own ministries, in our own families, we also know that they're built to be intentionally addictive.

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So create a space where you can learn how to put the phone down. In fact, if you go back to the very first episode linked, in the playlist linked right here, the top of the screen, about detoxing in a always on tech filled world, I give some tips. There's even a worksheet

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in that video about getting rid and creating kind of phone free environments.

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I believe if you, look at the worksheet in that one, I have linked like a phone

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jail.

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What if you did something so dramatic in your own life or your own family, where you created, like a phone jail or a phone locker kind of speak so that you could put it down and you can force yourself to not go back and pick it up.

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In fact, I made a New Year's resolution this year that when I got home from work, I want from the time I get home from work until bedtime with my kids, I want it to be phone free. Like I want to put my phone down. I want to live my life and I hope, listen. I host a podcast called The Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Like, I'm all about digital. I'm all about technology. But I also don't want technology to run me. I want it to be a part of my life that's useful and meaningful and that I use. But I don't want it to run me. And so I want to put my phone on, and I want to live my life

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with my family.

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The second idea I have for you is that why you should put your phone down? I'm speaking to those of you who are kind of hard chargers, like, yeah, like get rid of it. The second piece is tech can enhance relationships. So while you

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should put your phone down so that you can live your life so that you can enhance those relationships, which is what social was built on foundationally in the first place.

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Tech is a tool to be used like I just minutes ago. I am late at night, got done watching a basketball game. Shout out to the Oklahoma City Thunder 13 game win streak, longest in franchise history. I was texting my friend in Minnesota hours away, and we're texting about sports and basketball and life.

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Like, I haven't seen him in person in months, but our relationship still exists.

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We send memes to each other in real, and we text each other and we'll call each other and we'll chat through life. And, you know, monumental moments like tech can still enhance and keep a relationship going, right? I think about group chats. I even think about silly things like sharing memes and reels. I think that's a way in today's day and age, in 2025 and beyond, that can be a love language, so to speak.

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You know, like I have a resident now who, was off social media because he was trying to, like, focus more time on his schoolwork. And I, would screenshot or screen record reels or memes of things. He's a big office guy, and we would kind of connect on those, and I'd send this to him in text and he'd be like, thank you for knowing and noticing that I'm not social and for sending this to me so that I can actually, like, see these things.

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Right. Like it's still a way to connect as a matter of the medium. Like it just is a way for us to kind of like share some things, ideas and laugh together. And so that's where this saw this whole idea of hybrid comes in responsible usage. Put it down, but understand that it can still be a tool. The third idea I have for you is create rules for yourselves.

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Or perhaps if you're a parent, a teenager, if you're a youth pastor, this is where I want to encourage you to maybe

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download and share this resource with some of your parents. But what are some of the rules that you can help your teenagers? And, you know, their parents like, create for themselves and create for their families?

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Like I said, I want to try to challenge myself to go phone free from when I get

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home from work until my kids go to bed. I don't know what those rules are, but let let break some of those in. You know what? Link down below in episode 131 hybrid Administrator Xyzzy slash 131, I interviewed my friend Ronald, who is, host of the Middle School Ministry podcast, but he also is dad to middle schoolers and he had some fantastic ideas and some fantastic tips about how you can implement this idea of digital to your children, to your kids in a meaningful way, but also in a way that is going to like, help,

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help them kind of earn the responsibility of having tech and phones and digital. And so I can't give you like a one size fits all rule. I can, but I don't think that that's wise. I think you need to learn and lean in and kind of learn and discern what needs to go on in your family and with you in particular.

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And so while you may be, I don't want a smartphone at all, I want a dumb phone. Only that can be your rule. But don't make that the rule for everybody. Others. It might be like, I just want to limit my usage. I want to put, you know, timers on my apps. I want whatever that's where. And, you know, episode 132 I laid out the digital detox kind of like ideas, and it comes with some just ideas of rules and maybe some things that you can like, create for yourself, or that you and your teenager can kind of work together and create for yourself.

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But if the whole goal. Right, like if we set the whole goal of social and its original form

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was connection to humans, maybe, just maybe, the the the phone usage, screen usage has gone a little bit out of balance, has become a little bit more than we ever sort of bargained for. And so that's why I created this screen free guide, a way to, encourage ways to have screen free or phone free, times with friends and helping kind of facilitate that for your middle school or your high school or and even encouraging and how to kind of go about that and even get that kind of conversation started.

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And also maybe not just for friends, but also for you as a family. Right. And and maybe while we might be frustrated as parents or as guardians or even as youth pastors with our teenage teenagers usage and maybe even dependance on technology, maybe we have to take a good hard look at ourselves, and maybe they're modeling their usage after us.

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Or at least they're seeing us. Maybe not being as mindful about it as maybe we hope to be. So that's going to be linked down below. Again, if you're a parent, youth pastor or whatever, I hope that you grab it, use it, send it, share it with a friend. But I also want to encourage you to to help create more opportunities to build real relationships in this digital age and in this cell phone era.

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Thank you, as always, for being here. Don't forget to stick around. Subscribe. We'll have all kinds of other episodes like this throughout the rest of this year, but don't forget to stay hybrid.

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Bonus: there's a downloadable worksheet, perfect for your next workshop or family night. ๐Ÿš€ 10:17 no ๐ŸŽง Become a โ€œHybrid Heroโ€ https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry โš™๏ธTech Talks: For Parents and Teens https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/parent-tech-talks-817359?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link DESCRIPTION ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Tech Talks: Equipping Parents to Guide Their Digital Natives is your ultimate resource for navigating the wild world of screens and social media! Designed to spark meaningful conversations, this episode drops 5 practical questions to help parents and teens tackle digital habits together. 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If you're a parent trying to talk to your teens about tech and screens and social, you feel like when you're doing so, you're speaking a completely foreign language. If that's you, go ahead and subscribe to this channel. And let me guess, if you're a teenager, having a parent try to relate to you in that tech space and it feels totally cringe. 00:00:26:22 - 00:00:46:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Go ahead and give me a like on this video. And if you're a youth pastor, just simply trying to bring the two sides together, well then you're in the right spot. Go ahead and turn the bell on. Because here in this video on the Hybrid Ministry show, what we're going to do is we are going to share. I'm going to share with you my parent and tech philosophy. 00:00:46:25 - 00:01:10:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm also going to share with you five great questions that you can use to start with a family, to open up good discussion around technology. If you're a parent, I'm going to share with you my top three monitoring resources. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video because I'm going to share with you a worksheet that has not only those five good questions shared in this video, but some bonus questions that you can hop over and that you can download. 00:01:10:21 - 00:01:28:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry My patrons get it for free. If you're a youth pastor, it's only $4 per month. You'll get all the worksheets that are included in this current playlist that's linked right here that we're in. We're now in part three of four of this parent tech and screens worksheet and playlist, where I'm sharing a worksheet in every single video. The patron. 00:01:28:18 - 00:01:50:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The Patreon subscription is only $4 per month. And so that would cover all of these worksheets. And then some. Along with if you subscribe, you get a bonus podcast where I'm going to talk about what I'm doing weekly in my youth ministry, helping promote creativity, screen safety, hive and hybrid ministry. Welcome my friends to the show that's named after what I call it. 00:01:50:12 - 00:02:28:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. All right, so here's my philosophy around technology and screens, okay. The philosophy is very simply this. You just have to start having conversations around it, especially if you are concerned about your teens usage or you might be concerned down the road about it. Start the conversation earlier than you might want. Because here's the thing if you've downloaded either of my last two worksheets or the Digital Detox worksheet or the Feed Audit worksheet, well, you've got to come to understand is that both of those are set to help open up and promote a conversation between parents and between teenagers. 00:02:28:18 - 00:03:03:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you're concerned about it, the way we as parents often handle it is we have some big, explosive sort of like come to Jesus reckoning moment where we think we did the job. But but the change often best happens, and the transformation takes place most naturally through ongoing conversations where the conversations feel less threatening, which is one of the reasons, especially in the last worksheet, where I encourage you as a parent to offer immunity because you may, as you're auditing some your son or daughter's feed, you may find things that you don't want, but because you're saying, hey, listen, it's going to be okay. 00:03:03:11 - 00:03:30:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're going to work through this together. You're offering them the ability to actually open up and have that conversation, which is ultimately what you're hoping. You're hoping that the conversation will lead to heart and life change and transformation over time, as opposed to just like adjusting and changing the behavior. That's just simply behavior modification. That's white knuckling it as opposed to genuine true heart change. 00:03:30:26 - 00:03:58:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's the goal of all pastors of of should be of all churches is definitely the goal of Jesus. And so lead with grace and understanding versus annoyance and constant frustration. And when you start with that, it hopefully will start to crack open the door towards honest conversations. And so with that philosophy as the foundation, as the backdrop of all of this, let's walk in to these five questions. 00:03:58:03 - 00:04:19:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you're here in a workshop, I want to encourage you after each question to just pause it and stop and let parents and teens have these conversations in rows, around tables or wherever, whatever your setting looks like. So the first question is this how does technology make our life better? I want you to I want to encourage you to think about things like perhaps like 360, right? 00:04:19:06 - 00:04:45:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like G.P.S. type tracking things, or even just GPS navigation in general. Being able to get from point A to point B, especially if you're in an unfamiliar place, maybe things like banking or keeping a shared calendar or grocery list, like, all right, think those types of things. In what ways do those things make technology better? If you're watching here in a workshop, go ahead, pause this video and I'll let you have a chance to discuss. 00:04:45:15 - 00:05:03:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But for the rest of us here on YouTube, I want you to now think and ask through this second question, which goes like this. How well do you think I and if you're a parent, I want to encourage you to ask this question. Being willing to be vulnerable, being willing to to, you know, put yourself out there in such a way. 00:05:04:03 - 00:05:29:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How well do you feel like I balance my screen time, right. And again, this is going to cause you and have to ask you to be a little bit vulnerable and maybe even during this section here, when you're having this discussion with your teen, I want to encourage you to maybe look up your current screen time reports. And if you're if you're not happy with or you're unsatisfied with what that says, I want to encourage you then to maybe set a goal for something new. 00:05:29:10 - 00:05:49:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're watching this live, if you're having a discussion, go ahead, pause the video now. But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number three, which is this. What is your most visited website or app and why? Right. And here's why. The and why part of this question helps you get a peek into their soul a little bit. 00:05:49:06 - 00:06:19:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. Helps reveal their hobbies or their desires. Right. Like for me, what I would say one of the most like, visited things for me is, like Instagram. And the reason I like Instagram is because I have a heavy basketball algorithm and I'm a huge basketball fan. And so getting on there, I'm hoping that it will share with me, illuminate with me, give me interesting content around basketball and and doing that the and why part of that question right reveals to you that I enjoy watching basketball. 00:06:19:20 - 00:06:36:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the and why part of that question hopefully will help reveal on both sides student and parent what it is that they're into, what it is that they're actually looking for, what it is that their phone is feeding them, that they are finding so interesting. So go ahead, pause the video and take a minute to discuss that. 00:06:36:13 - 00:06:56:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number four, which is do you feel as a technology brings our family together or tears us apart? And again, I want to consider allowing this conversation to be a free flowing conversation. Let it have immunity, you know, don't get defensive regardless of what the answer is. 00:06:56:09 - 00:07:18:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Don't get defensive here. The other person side, right? I often use the phrase perception is reality. And so in this case allow their perception to be the reality. Don't argue it, don't fight it. But just let them say and speak their peace. So go ahead, take a minute. Have this discussion for the rest of us. We're going to move on here to question number five, which is this. 00:07:19:01 - 00:07:53:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Would you prefer more or less phone time personally? Would you prefer to have more or would you prefer to have less phone time again? Speak freely again. No judgment. Okay. But based on their answers, I want you to set a family goal to work on it together. Especially especially if you are saying you want to have less of it, then I want to encourage you to link down below my detox worksheet, which will give you five tips to work together better as a family to detox, you might have times that you're spending on screen, but once they're right now, link down. 00:07:53:25 - 00:08:16:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Below are the three tools is linked to a video. The three tools that I recommend you exploring for better screen usage, and perhaps even more restrictions on phones if that is something that you're looking to go towards. And so in that video, I debate between or a plus circle, I debate between the Bach, family of products, Bach phones and Bach monitoring. 00:08:16:20 - 00:08:40:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I also share with you my recommended resource called Covenant Eyes. And why I prefer to use Covenant Eyes is because it has constant screen monitoring. It is analyzing screenshots on a constant basis of every single thing that is being viewed on your screen. Right? Because the difference is, if it's just you URL based, you can sort of find workarounds to that look. 00:08:40:16 - 00:09:00:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Look at your teenager right now. If you're still in this workshop, they know that they can find workarounds to that. But if they want and you want to have a more holistic and a more robust monitoring system, Covenant Eyes will do that. And best yet, if you have an Android, it will do it on every single thing that is seen and is visible on your screen at any given time. 00:09:01:00 - 00:09:22:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Where an apple, it's only showing you what you're using inside the Covenant Eyes browser that simply just said their technology and their API type settings. And so if your son does have an iPhone as much as, the social capital will go down because you have to get them away from the blue bubbles. And Android is better for their long term purity and for your, perhaps, peace of mind. 00:09:22:15 - 00:09:55:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so again, I want to thank you for watching this video. Listen, if you're a youth pastor, I want to encourage you to hop down the link on the show notes and grab this. This parent tech talks in this parent and teen tech talks worksheet and pass it out at a maybe a parent and tech workshop. Even go back and use this video to use it as a springboard for conversations where in this in this worksheet, it's going to allow both sides to kind of share their perspectives on technology usage, as well as offer a slew of other bonus questions. 00:09:55:11 - 00:10:14:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But linked right here in the fourth and final installment of this playlist is video. I'm titling from screen to scene, and we're going to talk about how to be more present in an always digital world. Thank you for sticking around for this entire video. 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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me guess. If you're a parent trying to talk to your teens about tech and screens and social, you feel like when you're doing so, you're speaking a completely foreign language. If that's you, go ahead and subscribe to this channel. And let me guess, if you're a teenager, having a parent try to relate to you in that tech space and it feels totally cringe.

00:00:26:22 - 00:00:46:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Go ahead and give me a like on this video. And if you're a youth pastor, just simply trying to bring the two sides together, well then you're in the right spot. Go ahead and turn the bell on. Because here in this video on the Hybrid Ministry show, what we're going to do is we are going to share. I'm going to share with you my parent and tech philosophy.

00:00:46:25 - 00:01:10:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm also going to share with you five great questions that you can use to start with a family, to open up good discussion around technology. If you're a parent, I'm going to share with you my top three monitoring resources. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video because I'm going to share with you a worksheet that has not only those five good questions shared in this video, but some bonus questions that you can hop over and that you can download.

00:01:10:21 - 00:01:28:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
My patrons get it for free. If you're a youth pastor, it's only $4 per month. You'll get all the worksheets that are included in this current playlist that's linked right here that we're in. We're now in part three of four of this parent tech and screens worksheet and playlist, where I'm sharing a worksheet in every single video. The patron.

00:01:28:18 - 00:01:50:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The Patreon subscription is only $4 per month. And so that would cover all of these worksheets. And then some. Along with if you subscribe, you get a bonus podcast where I'm going to talk about what I'm doing weekly in my youth ministry, helping promote creativity, screen safety, hive and hybrid ministry. Welcome my friends to the show that's named after what I call it.

00:01:50:12 - 00:02:28:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. All right, so here's my philosophy around technology and screens, okay. The philosophy is very simply this. You just have to start having conversations around it, especially if you are concerned about your teens usage or you might be concerned down the road about it. Start the conversation earlier than you might want. Because here's the thing if you've downloaded either of my last two worksheets or the Digital Detox worksheet or the Feed Audit worksheet, well, you've got to come to understand is that both of those are set to help open up and promote a conversation between parents and between teenagers.

00:02:28:18 - 00:03:03:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you're concerned about it, the way we as parents often handle it is we have some big, explosive sort of like come to Jesus reckoning moment where we think we did the job. But but the change often best happens, and the transformation takes place most naturally through ongoing conversations where the conversations feel less threatening, which is one of the reasons, especially in the last worksheet, where I encourage you as a parent to offer immunity because you may, as you're auditing some your son or daughter's feed, you may find things that you don't want, but because you're saying, hey, listen, it's going to be okay.

00:03:03:11 - 00:03:30:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to work through this together. You're offering them the ability to actually open up and have that conversation, which is ultimately what you're hoping. You're hoping that the conversation will lead to heart and life change and transformation over time, as opposed to just like adjusting and changing the behavior. That's just simply behavior modification. That's white knuckling it as opposed to genuine true heart change.

00:03:30:26 - 00:03:58:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the goal of all pastors of of should be of all churches is definitely the goal of Jesus. And so lead with grace and understanding versus annoyance and constant frustration. And when you start with that, it hopefully will start to crack open the door towards honest conversations. And so with that philosophy as the foundation, as the backdrop of all of this, let's walk in to these five questions.

00:03:58:03 - 00:04:19:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you're here in a workshop, I want to encourage you after each question to just pause it and stop and let parents and teens have these conversations in rows, around tables or wherever, whatever your setting looks like. So the first question is this how does technology make our life better? I want you to I want to encourage you to think about things like perhaps like 360, right?

00:04:19:06 - 00:04:45:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like G.P.S. type tracking things, or even just GPS navigation in general. Being able to get from point A to point B, especially if you're in an unfamiliar place, maybe things like banking or keeping a shared calendar or grocery list, like, all right, think those types of things. In what ways do those things make technology better? If you're watching here in a workshop, go ahead, pause this video and I'll let you have a chance to discuss.

00:04:45:15 - 00:05:03:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But for the rest of us here on YouTube, I want you to now think and ask through this second question, which goes like this. How well do you think I and if you're a parent, I want to encourage you to ask this question. Being willing to be vulnerable, being willing to to, you know, put yourself out there in such a way.

00:05:04:03 - 00:05:29:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How well do you feel like I balance my screen time, right. And again, this is going to cause you and have to ask you to be a little bit vulnerable and maybe even during this section here, when you're having this discussion with your teen, I want to encourage you to maybe look up your current screen time reports. And if you're if you're not happy with or you're unsatisfied with what that says, I want to encourage you then to maybe set a goal for something new.

00:05:29:10 - 00:05:49:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're watching this live, if you're having a discussion, go ahead, pause the video now. But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number three, which is this. What is your most visited website or app and why? Right. And here's why. The and why part of this question helps you get a peek into their soul a little bit.

00:05:49:06 - 00:06:19:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. Helps reveal their hobbies or their desires. Right. Like for me, what I would say one of the most like, visited things for me is, like Instagram. And the reason I like Instagram is because I have a heavy basketball algorithm and I'm a huge basketball fan. And so getting on there, I'm hoping that it will share with me, illuminate with me, give me interesting content around basketball and and doing that the and why part of that question right reveals to you that I enjoy watching basketball.

00:06:19:20 - 00:06:36:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the and why part of that question hopefully will help reveal on both sides student and parent what it is that they're into, what it is that they're actually looking for, what it is that their phone is feeding them, that they are finding so interesting. So go ahead, pause the video and take a minute to discuss that.

00:06:36:13 - 00:06:56:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number four, which is do you feel as a technology brings our family together or tears us apart? And again, I want to consider allowing this conversation to be a free flowing conversation. Let it have immunity, you know, don't get defensive regardless of what the answer is.

00:06:56:09 - 00:07:18:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't get defensive here. The other person side, right? I often use the phrase perception is reality. And so in this case allow their perception to be the reality. Don't argue it, don't fight it. But just let them say and speak their peace. So go ahead, take a minute. Have this discussion for the rest of us. We're going to move on here to question number five, which is this.

00:07:19:01 - 00:07:53:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Would you prefer more or less phone time personally? Would you prefer to have more or would you prefer to have less phone time again? Speak freely again. No judgment. Okay. But based on their answers, I want you to set a family goal to work on it together. Especially especially if you are saying you want to have less of it, then I want to encourage you to link down below my detox worksheet, which will give you five tips to work together better as a family to detox, you might have times that you're spending on screen, but once they're right now, link down.

00:07:53:25 - 00:08:16:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Below are the three tools is linked to a video. The three tools that I recommend you exploring for better screen usage, and perhaps even more restrictions on phones if that is something that you're looking to go towards. And so in that video, I debate between or a plus circle, I debate between the Bach, family of products, Bach phones and Bach monitoring.

00:08:16:20 - 00:08:40:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I also share with you my recommended resource called Covenant Eyes. And why I prefer to use Covenant Eyes is because it has constant screen monitoring. It is analyzing screenshots on a constant basis of every single thing that is being viewed on your screen. Right? Because the difference is, if it's just you URL based, you can sort of find workarounds to that look.

00:08:40:16 - 00:09:00:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Look at your teenager right now. If you're still in this workshop, they know that they can find workarounds to that. But if they want and you want to have a more holistic and a more robust monitoring system, Covenant Eyes will do that. And best yet, if you have an Android, it will do it on every single thing that is seen and is visible on your screen at any given time.

00:09:01:00 - 00:09:22:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Where an apple, it's only showing you what you're using inside the Covenant Eyes browser that simply just said their technology and their API type settings. And so if your son does have an iPhone as much as, the social capital will go down because you have to get them away from the blue bubbles. And Android is better for their long term purity and for your, perhaps, peace of mind.

00:09:22:15 - 00:09:55:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so again, I want to thank you for watching this video. Listen, if you're a youth pastor, I want to encourage you to hop down the link on the show notes and grab this. This parent tech talks in this parent and teen tech talks worksheet and pass it out at a maybe a parent and tech workshop. Even go back and use this video to use it as a springboard for conversations where in this in this worksheet, it's going to allow both sides to kind of share their perspectives on technology usage, as well as offer a slew of other bonus questions.

00:09:55:11 - 00:10:14:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But linked right here in the fourth and final installment of this playlist is video. I'm titling from screen to scene, and we're going to talk about how to be more present in an always digital world. Thank you for sticking around for this entire video. And don't forget, my friends as always to stay hybrid.

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00:00 Tech Talks: Equipping Parents to Talk to their Digital Natives
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04:10 Question #1
04:44 Question #2
05:34 Question #3
06:36 Question #4
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:17 - 00:00:26:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me guess. If you're a parent trying to talk to your teens about tech and screens and social, you feel like when you're doing so, you're speaking a completely foreign language. If that's you, go ahead and subscribe to this channel. And let me guess, if you're a teenager, having a parent try to relate to you in that tech space and it feels totally cringe.

00:00:26:22 - 00:00:46:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Go ahead and give me a like on this video. And if you're a youth pastor, just simply trying to bring the two sides together, well then you're in the right spot. Go ahead and turn the bell on. Because here in this video on the Hybrid Ministry show, what we're going to do is we are going to share. I'm going to share with you my parent and tech philosophy.

00:00:46:25 - 00:01:10:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm also going to share with you five great questions that you can use to start with a family, to open up good discussion around technology. If you're a parent, I'm going to share with you my top three monitoring resources. And finally, stick around to the very end of the video because I'm going to share with you a worksheet that has not only those five good questions shared in this video, but some bonus questions that you can hop over and that you can download.

00:01:10:21 - 00:01:28:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
My patrons get it for free. If you're a youth pastor, it's only $4 per month. You'll get all the worksheets that are included in this current playlist that's linked right here that we're in. We're now in part three of four of this parent tech and screens worksheet and playlist, where I'm sharing a worksheet in every single video. The patron.

00:01:28:18 - 00:01:50:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The Patreon subscription is only $4 per month. And so that would cover all of these worksheets. And then some. Along with if you subscribe, you get a bonus podcast where I'm going to talk about what I'm doing weekly in my youth ministry, helping promote creativity, screen safety, hive and hybrid ministry. Welcome my friends to the show that's named after what I call it.

00:01:50:12 - 00:02:28:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. All right, so here's my philosophy around technology and screens, okay. The philosophy is very simply this. You just have to start having conversations around it, especially if you are concerned about your teens usage or you might be concerned down the road about it. Start the conversation earlier than you might want. Because here's the thing if you've downloaded either of my last two worksheets or the Digital Detox worksheet or the Feed Audit worksheet, well, you've got to come to understand is that both of those are set to help open up and promote a conversation between parents and between teenagers.

00:02:28:18 - 00:03:03:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you're concerned about it, the way we as parents often handle it is we have some big, explosive sort of like come to Jesus reckoning moment where we think we did the job. But but the change often best happens, and the transformation takes place most naturally through ongoing conversations where the conversations feel less threatening, which is one of the reasons, especially in the last worksheet, where I encourage you as a parent to offer immunity because you may, as you're auditing some your son or daughter's feed, you may find things that you don't want, but because you're saying, hey, listen, it's going to be okay.

00:03:03:11 - 00:03:30:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to work through this together. You're offering them the ability to actually open up and have that conversation, which is ultimately what you're hoping. You're hoping that the conversation will lead to heart and life change and transformation over time, as opposed to just like adjusting and changing the behavior. That's just simply behavior modification. That's white knuckling it as opposed to genuine true heart change.

00:03:30:26 - 00:03:58:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's the goal of all pastors of of should be of all churches is definitely the goal of Jesus. And so lead with grace and understanding versus annoyance and constant frustration. And when you start with that, it hopefully will start to crack open the door towards honest conversations. And so with that philosophy as the foundation, as the backdrop of all of this, let's walk in to these five questions.

00:03:58:03 - 00:04:19:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you're here in a workshop, I want to encourage you after each question to just pause it and stop and let parents and teens have these conversations in rows, around tables or wherever, whatever your setting looks like. So the first question is this how does technology make our life better? I want you to I want to encourage you to think about things like perhaps like 360, right?

00:04:19:06 - 00:04:45:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like G.P.S. type tracking things, or even just GPS navigation in general. Being able to get from point A to point B, especially if you're in an unfamiliar place, maybe things like banking or keeping a shared calendar or grocery list, like, all right, think those types of things. In what ways do those things make technology better? If you're watching here in a workshop, go ahead, pause this video and I'll let you have a chance to discuss.

00:04:45:15 - 00:05:03:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But for the rest of us here on YouTube, I want you to now think and ask through this second question, which goes like this. How well do you think I and if you're a parent, I want to encourage you to ask this question. Being willing to be vulnerable, being willing to to, you know, put yourself out there in such a way.

00:05:04:03 - 00:05:29:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How well do you feel like I balance my screen time, right. And again, this is going to cause you and have to ask you to be a little bit vulnerable and maybe even during this section here, when you're having this discussion with your teen, I want to encourage you to maybe look up your current screen time reports. And if you're if you're not happy with or you're unsatisfied with what that says, I want to encourage you then to maybe set a goal for something new.

00:05:29:10 - 00:05:49:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're watching this live, if you're having a discussion, go ahead, pause the video now. But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number three, which is this. What is your most visited website or app and why? Right. And here's why. The and why part of this question helps you get a peek into their soul a little bit.

00:05:49:06 - 00:06:19:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. Helps reveal their hobbies or their desires. Right. Like for me, what I would say one of the most like, visited things for me is, like Instagram. And the reason I like Instagram is because I have a heavy basketball algorithm and I'm a huge basketball fan. And so getting on there, I'm hoping that it will share with me, illuminate with me, give me interesting content around basketball and and doing that the and why part of that question right reveals to you that I enjoy watching basketball.

00:06:19:20 - 00:06:36:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the and why part of that question hopefully will help reveal on both sides student and parent what it is that they're into, what it is that they're actually looking for, what it is that their phone is feeding them, that they are finding so interesting. So go ahead, pause the video and take a minute to discuss that.

00:06:36:13 - 00:06:56:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But for the rest of us, we're going to move on here to question number four, which is do you feel as a technology brings our family together or tears us apart? And again, I want to consider allowing this conversation to be a free flowing conversation. Let it have immunity, you know, don't get defensive regardless of what the answer is.

00:06:56:09 - 00:07:18:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't get defensive here. The other person side, right? I often use the phrase perception is reality. And so in this case allow their perception to be the reality. Don't argue it, don't fight it. But just let them say and speak their peace. So go ahead, take a minute. Have this discussion for the rest of us. We're going to move on here to question number five, which is this.

00:07:19:01 - 00:07:53:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Would you prefer more or less phone time personally? Would you prefer to have more or would you prefer to have less phone time again? Speak freely again. No judgment. Okay. But based on their answers, I want you to set a family goal to work on it together. Especially especially if you are saying you want to have less of it, then I want to encourage you to link down below my detox worksheet, which will give you five tips to work together better as a family to detox, you might have times that you're spending on screen, but once they're right now, link down.

00:07:53:25 - 00:08:16:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Below are the three tools is linked to a video. The three tools that I recommend you exploring for better screen usage, and perhaps even more restrictions on phones if that is something that you're looking to go towards. And so in that video, I debate between or a plus circle, I debate between the Bach, family of products, Bach phones and Bach monitoring.

00:08:16:20 - 00:08:40:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I also share with you my recommended resource called Covenant Eyes. And why I prefer to use Covenant Eyes is because it has constant screen monitoring. It is analyzing screenshots on a constant basis of every single thing that is being viewed on your screen. Right? Because the difference is, if it's just you URL based, you can sort of find workarounds to that look.

00:08:40:16 - 00:09:00:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Look at your teenager right now. If you're still in this workshop, they know that they can find workarounds to that. But if they want and you want to have a more holistic and a more robust monitoring system, Covenant Eyes will do that. And best yet, if you have an Android, it will do it on every single thing that is seen and is visible on your screen at any given time.

00:09:01:00 - 00:09:22:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Where an apple, it's only showing you what you're using inside the Covenant Eyes browser that simply just said their technology and their API type settings. And so if your son does have an iPhone as much as, the social capital will go down because you have to get them away from the blue bubbles. And Android is better for their long term purity and for your, perhaps, peace of mind.

00:09:22:15 - 00:09:55:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so again, I want to thank you for watching this video. Listen, if you're a youth pastor, I want to encourage you to hop down the link on the show notes and grab this. This parent tech talks in this parent and teen tech talks worksheet and pass it out at a maybe a parent and tech workshop. Even go back and use this video to use it as a springboard for conversations where in this in this worksheet, it's going to allow both sides to kind of share their perspectives on technology usage, as well as offer a slew of other bonus questions.

00:09:55:11 - 00:10:14:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But linked right here in the fourth and final installment of this playlist is video. I'm titling from screen to scene, and we're going to talk about how to be more present in an always digital world. Thank you for sticking around for this entire video. And don't forget, my friends as always to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 133: Scroll with Purpose: Teaching Teens to Use Phones Wisely https://www.hybridministry.xyz/133 909cd93e-50fa-4ede-8100-3557345e16b5 Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 133 Scroll with Purpose: Teaching Teens to Use Phones Wisely full Nick Clason In this episode of **_Hybrid Ministry_**, we tackle the challenge of helping teens navigate their phones with purpose and wisdom. * Discover three essential rules for using social media wisely * A powerful resource to protect your teens from harmful online content * and an interactive "Social Feed Audit" activity to spark meaningful conversations. Don't miss the downloadable *Social Feed Audit Activity*โ€”a practical tool for fostering healthier digital habits. 10:24 no ๐ŸŽง Become a โ€œHybrid Heroโ€ https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry ๐Ÿ“ฒSocial Feed Audit Activity https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/social-feed-audit-activity-for-parents-789323?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link DESCRIPTION In this episode of Hybrid Ministry, we tackle the challenge of helping teens navigate their phones with purpose and wisdom. * Discover three essential rules for using social media wisely * A powerful resource to protect your teens from harmful online content * and an interactive "Social Feed Audit" activity to spark meaningful conversations. Don't miss the downloadable Social Feed Audit Activityโ€”a practical tool for fostering healthier digital habits. ๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES http://www.hybridministry.xyz/133 //Social Feed Audit Activity https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/social-feed-audit-activity-for-parents-789323?source=storefront //๐Ÿ“ฅ DIGITAL DETOX FAMILY WORKSHEET [Episode 132] https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/digital-detox-family-worksheet-763860?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link //3 MONITORING TOOLS VIDEO: https://youtu.be/DWYvsn2Kglk?si=wayQHd1zQC09I6qg TRY COVENANT EYES: https://covenanteyes.sjv.io/g1zVZA ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe! https://www.linktr.ee/clasonnick -------------- ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU! Some of the below links are affiliate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit //SIDEKICK SETUP GUIDE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/setup โŒšTIMECODES 00:00 How to Clean Up Your Social Feeds 01:27 Rule #1 03:12 Rule #2 06:13 Rule #3 06:59 My Recommended Accountability Tool 08:06 Social Feed Audit Activity -------------- TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:12 - 00:00:25:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give me a like. If you've ever heard this argument about social media. Social media is just a bunch of people dancing. It's useless, right? You've probably heard that before. Parents. Pastors. Teachers. Teenagers. I once heard a pastor say, show me your bank account and it will reveal the desires of your heart. Well, I believe that in 2025 and beyond. 00:00:25:26 - 00:00:55:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Show me your algorithm and it will reveal the desires of your heart. You know the algorithms are so good. They're like, if that's what you see on your social media feed, that's probably what you are wanting to see. That's what you're hovering longer on this with the algorithm knows and is feeding you more of. And so in this video we're going to do is we're going to talk about how you can clean up your feed, how you can audit it, and how you can make it a type of feed that will honor God in the process. 00:00:55:23 - 00:01:14:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We're going to share three rules for social media wisdom. I'm going to give you one resource that's going to help protect you and your team from what you see on your screens, as well as a downloadable worksheet for you to snag at the end. Or hit this QR code here at the bottom so that you can use it. 00:01:14:13 - 00:01:43:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you're a youth pastor. Download it. Share it with your parents. This is one of the best resources I think, that I have ever put together. Welcome my friends to the Hybrid Mr. Show. Hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Klassen. I've been youth ministry for 14 years and I have two boys, eight and six, who are squarely in Gen Alpha, and they are waving their way on up into this world of tech and screens and social. 00:01:43:29 - 00:02:04:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in this video, I want to share with you three my three rules for social media. The first rule is this harmful social media, right? I think a lot of us have this understanding that social media is harmful, right? But I don't believe it's all harmful. I just believe that harmful social media is when you use it mindlessly, right? 00:02:04:29 - 00:02:28:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's equals when you have a mindless use of it. And so what I want to encourage you to do is I want to encourage you to put parameters and rules around your screen and social usage. You know, if you didn't watch the last video, which is going to be linked right here, we went through five different tips to have more of a screen detox type of life in a quote always on world. 00:02:28:10 - 00:02:50:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I don't you don't have to adopt those five rules. I just want to encourage you to have some rules, because when you use it mindlessly, when you use it without any barriers, without any parameters, that's where things get tricky. That's where things get dangerous. And that's where we start to see that addiction set in and people not able to make the right and smart type of choices that we're hoping that they can make in their life. 00:02:50:22 - 00:03:13:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because social and technology has this sort of like, addictive, way of interacting with the neural pathways in your brain. And so that's why there needs to be a set of parameters that you place on yourself, and then maybe even you agree with with some other members of your family. The second rule that I have for you is just simply a question. 00:03:13:23 - 00:03:45:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Is it you or is it a AI? Right? Like I said earlier, show me your algorithm and I'll show you the desires of your heart. Let me give you a positive example of this in my own world. Right? So YouTube, we pay for premium YouTube at our house because my boys like to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube. And once I realized that this was something that was not going to go away, was that they were always going to want and desire and find themselves wanting to explore some of those Minecraft type videos on YouTube. 00:03:45:08 - 00:04:09:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I realized I want to have a little bit more control over the ads or the or taking them away, right? So I pray I pay for premium YouTube. Now here's what's interesting on my account. This very account that you might even be watching this video on when when you log into YouTube on my TV, it's littered with Minecraft videos. 00:04:09:12 - 00:04:34:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like that's almost all that the For You algorithm is sharing and showing on my television YouTube account. Switch over though, when I pull open my cell phone on YouTube because I myself also watch and use YouTube. All almost all it feeds me there is basketball content, all right. Or the types of, podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis. 00:04:34:26 - 00:04:55:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it's even interesting to me is that it will show me videos that I've of, of channels that I've never even subscribed to, but that I've interacted with, that I've watched before, way before. It shows me videos of things that I'm subscribed to. Right? Which is why, like, I would love for you to subscribe if you haven't yet, please do so. 00:04:55:23 - 00:05:22:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you haven't, if you just watch my videos, the algorithm is going to show my videos to you next time you log in, as opposed to just showing it to you just because you are a sort of like mindless, nameless subscriber. And so I share that to say the algorithm, the accounts, these social platforms, they're really powerful and they're also really smart. 00:05:22:02 - 00:05:48:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're not intentional with your use the AI, the algorithm is going to make decisions for you, right. And that YouTube example, that's a positive example. But let's just switch it to a negative example for a minute. If you're a boy, it's going to assume that you want to see girls on your social media. And if you're not careful, that I will continue to feed more and more and more of that. 00:05:48:24 - 00:06:08:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, listen, I know that that sounds hopeless, and especially if you're a parent, you're like, well, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from. Not all hope is lost, and I believe that social can be redeemed for good. You can manipulate your algorithm both positively and negatively, and we're going to get in that in just a minute. 00:06:08:11 - 00:06:38:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because my third rule for social media is you need to have accountability. If you don't have an outlet to discuss, I want to encourage you to invite somebody into your life, especially if you are trending down that negative sort of algorithm pathway. Get yourself out of it. Ask somebody for help, throw for a lifeline, but then have a regular rhythm of conversation and a regular rhythm of accountability. 00:06:38:25 - 00:07:04:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Set some goals and then ask somebody, as Paul David Tripp says, ask somebody to be intentionally intrusive in your life. Now, parents, the resource that I use, I use personally and that I recommend we talked about in a previous video, I'll link it down below. We talked about aura. We talked about Bach, but also the one that I like the most. 00:07:04:12 - 00:07:31:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we that we talked about that. I also recommend is a service called Covenant Eyes. Okay. And what Covenant Eyes does is it installs on your phone. It's let's I'm just going to say some it might you might disagree with it. It's better on Android than it is on Apple. And the reason why is that it will run a constant screen monitoring in the background of your phone at every given moment on an Android. 00:07:31:17 - 00:07:59:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On Apple, it only does it in the in the Covenant Eyes browser. But the nice thing about that, especially on Android, is that you know that if you can't watch every single thing on your kid's phone, you can log in as one of their allies is what they use the the language, the verbiage that they use. You can log in as one of their allies and view their screen activity and literally see snapshot after snapshot of what they're watching, of what they're viewing, of what is on their screen. 00:07:59:11 - 00:08:24:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's why I recommend that. And it's actually linked below in our social feed audit activity worksheet. And in this audit activity worksheet, what it's going to do is it's going to share with you 50 different social platforms to ask about right. Whether you have a great and wide open communication policy with your teenager, or whether it's a little bit more closed off, this will give you the resources. 00:08:24:29 - 00:08:50:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This will give you a list of resources to ask about, right to inquire whether they have one, even if they don't know that they haven't, even if they're not trying to hide it from you, or even if they maybe are trying to hide it from you, and then you can go through and I recommend that you, offer immunity during this audit process, especially if your boy or daughter, is having a lot of things on their algorithm that you wouldn't approve of. 00:08:50:08 - 00:09:15:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But as you go through, you can audit and you can ask this question, does this honor God? And the good news is that most social medias offer the ability for you to, click something that says, I'm not interested in this and ask the algorithm to feed it to you less often. And so if you go through that activity with your son or with your daughter, you can you can help manipulate their algorithm and then pair that with a tool like Covenant Eyes. 00:09:15:14 - 00:09:45:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can add back in some constant screen accountability. And maybe you become an accountability person. Or maybe you ask them to invite somebody else into their life a trusted friend, mentor, or adult that can ask them the hard questions of what they're trying to do and the goals that they're trying to set on social media. But in this new year, in 2025, as screen usage and social media usage is becoming more and more prevalent and more and more prominent, I want this tool to be a way for you. 00:09:45:21 - 00:10:09:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Whether you're a parent, whether you're a youth pastor dishing this out to some of your parents, I want you to be equipped with what it takes to start having this conversation about balancing, using what we use on social media so that you will scroll with purpose. And in the very next video, what I want to do is, I want to have you click here on screen, we are going to open up a conversation between parents and between students. 00:10:09:05 - 00:10:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we're just simply calling the video tech talks equipping parents to talk to their digital natives. I'll see you over there in that video. But until next time. 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In this episode of Hybrid Ministry, we tackle the challenge of helping teens navigate their phones with purpose and wisdom.

  • Discover three essential rules for using social media wisely
  • A powerful resource to protect your teens from harmful online content
  • and an interactive "Social Feed Audit" activity to spark meaningful conversations.

Don't miss the downloadable Social Feed Audit Activityโ€”a practical tool for fostering healthier digital habits.

๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES
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//๐Ÿ“ฅ DIGITAL DETOX FAMILY WORKSHEET [Episode 132]
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00:00 How to Clean Up Your Social Feeds
01:27 Rule #1
03:12 Rule #2
06:13 Rule #3
06:59 My Recommended Accountability Tool
08:06 Social Feed Audit Activity

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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:12 - 00:00:25:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like. If you've ever heard this argument about social media. Social media is just a bunch of people dancing. It's useless, right? You've probably heard that before. Parents. Pastors. Teachers. Teenagers. I once heard a pastor say, show me your bank account and it will reveal the desires of your heart. Well, I believe that in 2025 and beyond.

00:00:25:26 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Show me your algorithm and it will reveal the desires of your heart. You know the algorithms are so good. They're like, if that's what you see on your social media feed, that's probably what you are wanting to see. That's what you're hovering longer on this with the algorithm knows and is feeding you more of. And so in this video we're going to do is we're going to talk about how you can clean up your feed, how you can audit it, and how you can make it a type of feed that will honor God in the process.

00:00:55:23 - 00:01:14:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to share three rules for social media wisdom. I'm going to give you one resource that's going to help protect you and your team from what you see on your screens, as well as a downloadable worksheet for you to snag at the end. Or hit this QR code here at the bottom so that you can use it.

00:01:14:13 - 00:01:43:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're a youth pastor. Download it. Share it with your parents. This is one of the best resources I think, that I have ever put together. Welcome my friends to the Hybrid Mr. Show. Hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Klassen. I've been youth ministry for 14 years and I have two boys, eight and six, who are squarely in Gen Alpha, and they are waving their way on up into this world of tech and screens and social.

00:01:43:29 - 00:02:04:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this video, I want to share with you three my three rules for social media. The first rule is this harmful social media, right? I think a lot of us have this understanding that social media is harmful, right? But I don't believe it's all harmful. I just believe that harmful social media is when you use it mindlessly, right?

00:02:04:29 - 00:02:28:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's equals when you have a mindless use of it. And so what I want to encourage you to do is I want to encourage you to put parameters and rules around your screen and social usage. You know, if you didn't watch the last video, which is going to be linked right here, we went through five different tips to have more of a screen detox type of life in a quote always on world.

00:02:28:10 - 00:02:50:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I don't you don't have to adopt those five rules. I just want to encourage you to have some rules, because when you use it mindlessly, when you use it without any barriers, without any parameters, that's where things get tricky. That's where things get dangerous. And that's where we start to see that addiction set in and people not able to make the right and smart type of choices that we're hoping that they can make in their life.

00:02:50:22 - 00:03:13:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because social and technology has this sort of like, addictive, way of interacting with the neural pathways in your brain. And so that's why there needs to be a set of parameters that you place on yourself, and then maybe even you agree with with some other members of your family. The second rule that I have for you is just simply a question.

00:03:13:23 - 00:03:45:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is it you or is it a AI? Right? Like I said earlier, show me your algorithm and I'll show you the desires of your heart. Let me give you a positive example of this in my own world. Right? So YouTube, we pay for premium YouTube at our house because my boys like to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube. And once I realized that this was something that was not going to go away, was that they were always going to want and desire and find themselves wanting to explore some of those Minecraft type videos on YouTube.

00:03:45:08 - 00:04:09:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I realized I want to have a little bit more control over the ads or the or taking them away, right? So I pray I pay for premium YouTube. Now here's what's interesting on my account. This very account that you might even be watching this video on when when you log into YouTube on my TV, it's littered with Minecraft videos.

00:04:09:12 - 00:04:34:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like that's almost all that the For You algorithm is sharing and showing on my television YouTube account. Switch over though, when I pull open my cell phone on YouTube because I myself also watch and use YouTube. All almost all it feeds me there is basketball content, all right. Or the types of, podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis.

00:04:34:26 - 00:04:55:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's even interesting to me is that it will show me videos that I've of, of channels that I've never even subscribed to, but that I've interacted with, that I've watched before, way before. It shows me videos of things that I'm subscribed to. Right? Which is why, like, I would love for you to subscribe if you haven't yet, please do so.

00:04:55:23 - 00:05:22:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you haven't, if you just watch my videos, the algorithm is going to show my videos to you next time you log in, as opposed to just showing it to you just because you are a sort of like mindless, nameless subscriber. And so I share that to say the algorithm, the accounts, these social platforms, they're really powerful and they're also really smart.

00:05:22:02 - 00:05:48:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're not intentional with your use the AI, the algorithm is going to make decisions for you, right. And that YouTube example, that's a positive example. But let's just switch it to a negative example for a minute. If you're a boy, it's going to assume that you want to see girls on your social media. And if you're not careful, that I will continue to feed more and more and more of that.

00:05:48:24 - 00:06:08:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, listen, I know that that sounds hopeless, and especially if you're a parent, you're like, well, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from. Not all hope is lost, and I believe that social can be redeemed for good. You can manipulate your algorithm both positively and negatively, and we're going to get in that in just a minute.

00:06:08:11 - 00:06:38:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because my third rule for social media is you need to have accountability. If you don't have an outlet to discuss, I want to encourage you to invite somebody into your life, especially if you are trending down that negative sort of algorithm pathway. Get yourself out of it. Ask somebody for help, throw for a lifeline, but then have a regular rhythm of conversation and a regular rhythm of accountability.

00:06:38:25 - 00:07:04:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Set some goals and then ask somebody, as Paul David Tripp says, ask somebody to be intentionally intrusive in your life. Now, parents, the resource that I use, I use personally and that I recommend we talked about in a previous video, I'll link it down below. We talked about aura. We talked about Bach, but also the one that I like the most.

00:07:04:12 - 00:07:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we that we talked about that. I also recommend is a service called Covenant Eyes. Okay. And what Covenant Eyes does is it installs on your phone. It's let's I'm just going to say some it might you might disagree with it. It's better on Android than it is on Apple. And the reason why is that it will run a constant screen monitoring in the background of your phone at every given moment on an Android.

00:07:31:17 - 00:07:59:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On Apple, it only does it in the in the Covenant Eyes browser. But the nice thing about that, especially on Android, is that you know that if you can't watch every single thing on your kid's phone, you can log in as one of their allies is what they use the the language, the verbiage that they use. You can log in as one of their allies and view their screen activity and literally see snapshot after snapshot of what they're watching, of what they're viewing, of what is on their screen.

00:07:59:11 - 00:08:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why I recommend that. And it's actually linked below in our social feed audit activity worksheet. And in this audit activity worksheet, what it's going to do is it's going to share with you 50 different social platforms to ask about right. Whether you have a great and wide open communication policy with your teenager, or whether it's a little bit more closed off, this will give you the resources.

00:08:24:29 - 00:08:50:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This will give you a list of resources to ask about, right to inquire whether they have one, even if they don't know that they haven't, even if they're not trying to hide it from you, or even if they maybe are trying to hide it from you, and then you can go through and I recommend that you, offer immunity during this audit process, especially if your boy or daughter, is having a lot of things on their algorithm that you wouldn't approve of.

00:08:50:08 - 00:09:15:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But as you go through, you can audit and you can ask this question, does this honor God? And the good news is that most social medias offer the ability for you to, click something that says, I'm not interested in this and ask the algorithm to feed it to you less often. And so if you go through that activity with your son or with your daughter, you can you can help manipulate their algorithm and then pair that with a tool like Covenant Eyes.

00:09:15:14 - 00:09:45:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can add back in some constant screen accountability. And maybe you become an accountability person. Or maybe you ask them to invite somebody else into their life a trusted friend, mentor, or adult that can ask them the hard questions of what they're trying to do and the goals that they're trying to set on social media. But in this new year, in 2025, as screen usage and social media usage is becoming more and more prevalent and more and more prominent, I want this tool to be a way for you.

00:09:45:21 - 00:10:09:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Whether you're a parent, whether you're a youth pastor dishing this out to some of your parents, I want you to be equipped with what it takes to start having this conversation about balancing, using what we use on social media so that you will scroll with purpose. And in the very next video, what I want to do is, I want to have you click here on screen, we are going to open up a conversation between parents and between students.

00:10:09:05 - 00:10:21:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we're just simply calling the video tech talks equipping parents to talk to their digital natives. I'll see you over there in that video. But until next time. And as always, my friends stay hybrid.

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DESCRIPTION
In this episode of Hybrid Ministry, we tackle the challenge of helping teens navigate their phones with purpose and wisdom.

  • Discover three essential rules for using social media wisely
  • A powerful resource to protect your teens from harmful online content
  • and an interactive "Social Feed Audit" activity to spark meaningful conversations.

Don't miss the downloadable Social Feed Audit Activityโ€”a practical tool for fostering healthier digital habits.

๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/133

//Social Feed Audit Activity
https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/social-feed-audit-activity-for-parents-789323?source=storefront

//๐Ÿ“ฅ DIGITAL DETOX FAMILY WORKSHEET [Episode 132]
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VIDEO: https://youtu.be/DWYvsn2Kglk?si=wayQHd1zQC09I6qg
TRY COVENANT EYES: https://covenanteyes.sjv.io/g1zVZA

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VIDIQ
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BEST DYM RESOURCES
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OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS
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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 How to Clean Up Your Social Feeds
01:27 Rule #1
03:12 Rule #2
06:13 Rule #3
06:59 My Recommended Accountability Tool
08:06 Social Feed Audit Activity

--------------
TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:12 - 00:00:25:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like. If you've ever heard this argument about social media. Social media is just a bunch of people dancing. It's useless, right? You've probably heard that before. Parents. Pastors. Teachers. Teenagers. I once heard a pastor say, show me your bank account and it will reveal the desires of your heart. Well, I believe that in 2025 and beyond.

00:00:25:26 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Show me your algorithm and it will reveal the desires of your heart. You know the algorithms are so good. They're like, if that's what you see on your social media feed, that's probably what you are wanting to see. That's what you're hovering longer on this with the algorithm knows and is feeding you more of. And so in this video we're going to do is we're going to talk about how you can clean up your feed, how you can audit it, and how you can make it a type of feed that will honor God in the process.

00:00:55:23 - 00:01:14:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We're going to share three rules for social media wisdom. I'm going to give you one resource that's going to help protect you and your team from what you see on your screens, as well as a downloadable worksheet for you to snag at the end. Or hit this QR code here at the bottom so that you can use it.

00:01:14:13 - 00:01:43:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're a youth pastor. Download it. Share it with your parents. This is one of the best resources I think, that I have ever put together. Welcome my friends to the Hybrid Mr. Show. Hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Klassen. I've been youth ministry for 14 years and I have two boys, eight and six, who are squarely in Gen Alpha, and they are waving their way on up into this world of tech and screens and social.

00:01:43:29 - 00:02:04:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so in this video, I want to share with you three my three rules for social media. The first rule is this harmful social media, right? I think a lot of us have this understanding that social media is harmful, right? But I don't believe it's all harmful. I just believe that harmful social media is when you use it mindlessly, right?

00:02:04:29 - 00:02:28:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's equals when you have a mindless use of it. And so what I want to encourage you to do is I want to encourage you to put parameters and rules around your screen and social usage. You know, if you didn't watch the last video, which is going to be linked right here, we went through five different tips to have more of a screen detox type of life in a quote always on world.

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And I don't you don't have to adopt those five rules. I just want to encourage you to have some rules, because when you use it mindlessly, when you use it without any barriers, without any parameters, that's where things get tricky. That's where things get dangerous. And that's where we start to see that addiction set in and people not able to make the right and smart type of choices that we're hoping that they can make in their life.

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Because social and technology has this sort of like, addictive, way of interacting with the neural pathways in your brain. And so that's why there needs to be a set of parameters that you place on yourself, and then maybe even you agree with with some other members of your family. The second rule that I have for you is just simply a question.

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Is it you or is it a AI? Right? Like I said earlier, show me your algorithm and I'll show you the desires of your heart. Let me give you a positive example of this in my own world. Right? So YouTube, we pay for premium YouTube at our house because my boys like to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube. And once I realized that this was something that was not going to go away, was that they were always going to want and desire and find themselves wanting to explore some of those Minecraft type videos on YouTube.

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I realized I want to have a little bit more control over the ads or the or taking them away, right? So I pray I pay for premium YouTube. Now here's what's interesting on my account. This very account that you might even be watching this video on when when you log into YouTube on my TV, it's littered with Minecraft videos.

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Like that's almost all that the For You algorithm is sharing and showing on my television YouTube account. Switch over though, when I pull open my cell phone on YouTube because I myself also watch and use YouTube. All almost all it feeds me there is basketball content, all right. Or the types of, podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis.

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So it's even interesting to me is that it will show me videos that I've of, of channels that I've never even subscribed to, but that I've interacted with, that I've watched before, way before. It shows me videos of things that I'm subscribed to. Right? Which is why, like, I would love for you to subscribe if you haven't yet, please do so.

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But if you haven't, if you just watch my videos, the algorithm is going to show my videos to you next time you log in, as opposed to just showing it to you just because you are a sort of like mindless, nameless subscriber. And so I share that to say the algorithm, the accounts, these social platforms, they're really powerful and they're also really smart.

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And so if you're not intentional with your use the AI, the algorithm is going to make decisions for you, right. And that YouTube example, that's a positive example. But let's just switch it to a negative example for a minute. If you're a boy, it's going to assume that you want to see girls on your social media. And if you're not careful, that I will continue to feed more and more and more of that.

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Now, listen, I know that that sounds hopeless, and especially if you're a parent, you're like, well, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from. Not all hope is lost, and I believe that social can be redeemed for good. You can manipulate your algorithm both positively and negatively, and we're going to get in that in just a minute.

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Because my third rule for social media is you need to have accountability. If you don't have an outlet to discuss, I want to encourage you to invite somebody into your life, especially if you are trending down that negative sort of algorithm pathway. Get yourself out of it. Ask somebody for help, throw for a lifeline, but then have a regular rhythm of conversation and a regular rhythm of accountability.

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Set some goals and then ask somebody, as Paul David Tripp says, ask somebody to be intentionally intrusive in your life. Now, parents, the resource that I use, I use personally and that I recommend we talked about in a previous video, I'll link it down below. We talked about aura. We talked about Bach, but also the one that I like the most.

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And we that we talked about that. I also recommend is a service called Covenant Eyes. Okay. And what Covenant Eyes does is it installs on your phone. It's let's I'm just going to say some it might you might disagree with it. It's better on Android than it is on Apple. And the reason why is that it will run a constant screen monitoring in the background of your phone at every given moment on an Android.

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On Apple, it only does it in the in the Covenant Eyes browser. But the nice thing about that, especially on Android, is that you know that if you can't watch every single thing on your kid's phone, you can log in as one of their allies is what they use the the language, the verbiage that they use. You can log in as one of their allies and view their screen activity and literally see snapshot after snapshot of what they're watching, of what they're viewing, of what is on their screen.

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And so that's why I recommend that. And it's actually linked below in our social feed audit activity worksheet. And in this audit activity worksheet, what it's going to do is it's going to share with you 50 different social platforms to ask about right. Whether you have a great and wide open communication policy with your teenager, or whether it's a little bit more closed off, this will give you the resources.

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This will give you a list of resources to ask about, right to inquire whether they have one, even if they don't know that they haven't, even if they're not trying to hide it from you, or even if they maybe are trying to hide it from you, and then you can go through and I recommend that you, offer immunity during this audit process, especially if your boy or daughter, is having a lot of things on their algorithm that you wouldn't approve of.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But as you go through, you can audit and you can ask this question, does this honor God? And the good news is that most social medias offer the ability for you to, click something that says, I'm not interested in this and ask the algorithm to feed it to you less often. And so if you go through that activity with your son or with your daughter, you can you can help manipulate their algorithm and then pair that with a tool like Covenant Eyes.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can add back in some constant screen accountability. And maybe you become an accountability person. Or maybe you ask them to invite somebody else into their life a trusted friend, mentor, or adult that can ask them the hard questions of what they're trying to do and the goals that they're trying to set on social media. But in this new year, in 2025, as screen usage and social media usage is becoming more and more prevalent and more and more prominent, I want this tool to be a way for you.

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Whether you're a parent, whether you're a youth pastor dishing this out to some of your parents, I want you to be equipped with what it takes to start having this conversation about balancing, using what we use on social media so that you will scroll with purpose. And in the very next video, what I want to do is, I want to have you click here on screen, we are going to open up a conversation between parents and between students.

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And we're just simply calling the video tech talks equipping parents to talk to their digital natives. I'll see you over there in that video. But until next time. And as always, my friends stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 132: Digital Detox: Finding Balance in an Always-On World https://www.hybridministry.xyz/132 64fc5edb-bac7-4804-8312-66be90d1e103 Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 132 Digital Detox: Finding Balance in an Always-On World full Nick Clason Life today feels like itโ€™s always "on," and teenagers are growing up in a world where thereโ€™s no escape from the constant digital noiseโ€”even at home. Inspired by Winston Churchillโ€™s midday naps to reset his mental balance, this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show explores how we can help teensโ€”and ourselvesโ€”find moments of rest in an always-connected world. As a youth pastor with 14 years of experience, Iโ€™ve seen how the challenges of this generation differ from my own. In this video, Iโ€™ll share *5 practical tips for a healthier digital lifestyle*, from screen-free meals to digital sabbaths. Plus, Iโ€™ll introduce the **Digital Detox Family Challenge**โ€”a [free to Patrons] worksheet to help families reclaim their time and focus. Whether youโ€™re a parent, teen, or youth pastor, join me for practical tools to build healthier habits. 13:17 no ๐ŸŽง Become a โ€œHybrid Heroโ€ https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry ๐Ÿ“ฅDigital Detox Family Worksheet https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry/shop/digital-detox-family-worksheet-763860?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=productsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link DESCRIPTION Life today feels like itโ€™s always "on," and teenagers are growing up in a world where thereโ€™s no escape from the constant digital noiseโ€”even at home. Inspired by Winston Churchillโ€™s midday naps to reset his mental balance, this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show explores how we can help teensโ€”and ourselvesโ€”find moments of rest in an always-connected world. As a youth pastor with 14 years of experience, Iโ€™ve seen how the challenges of this generation differ from my own. In this video, Iโ€™ll share 5 practical tips for a healthier digital lifestyle, from screen-free meals to digital sabbaths. Plus, Iโ€™ll introduce the Digital Detox Family Challengeโ€”a [free to Patrons] worksheet to help families reclaim their time and focus. Whether youโ€™re a parent, teen, or youth pastor, join me for practical tools to build healthier habits. ๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES http://www.hybridministry.xyz/132 //Churchill Article https://fullfocus.co/naps/ //Bark & Aura+Disney vs. Covenant Eyes: An Honest Youth Pastor Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYvsn2Kglk&t=160s //Family Phone Lock Box https://walmrt.us/3ZrChfI ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! The best way to pay us back is a review or a YouTube Subscribe! https://www.linktr.ee/clasonnick -------------- ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS I USE THAT CAN HELP YOU! 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Like there's no break, there's no reprieve? 00:00:07:27 - 00:00:10:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Did you know, ironically, 00:00:10:06 - 00:00:21:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Winston Churchill, who was prime minister of Great Britain during World War One, fighting in at that time the world's greatest and biggest war, said this right. He regarded 00:00:21:19 - 00:00:33:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry his midday naps as, quote, essential for maintaining his mental balance, renewing his energy and reviving his 00:00:33:14 - 00:00:36:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry spirits as a youth pastor for 14 years. 00:00:36:26 - 00:00:44:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One thing that I've found that's unique about this generation of teenagers is that the cell phone has ushered in an era 00:00:44:10 - 00:00:48:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry where they never are able to turn it off. 00:00:48:15 - 00:01:05:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The drama follows them home. Conversations with friends follows them home through group chats and Snapchat. And if they're not a part of it, then the tension or the fact that they're missing out might also be causing anxiety because while you as a parent may be taking their phone away from them, they 00:01:05:25 - 00:01:11:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry don't know what someone else might be saying about them or what other drama they are going to be missing out on. 00:01:12:03 - 00:01:25:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry When I was a kid, that wasn't an option. I was. I was able to go home, and home was able to be my safe spot. And my guess is, if you're a parent just like me, is that you're trying to help your, house be a 00:01:25:23 - 00:01:29:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry safe spot. And if you're a youth pastor, my guess is you're trying to help teens 00:01:29:09 - 00:01:30:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry navigate this anxiety. 00:01:30:27 - 00:01:35:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you didn't grow up in this phenomenon of technology and digital, where you're 00:01:35:24 - 00:01:54:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry always on, you might not really truly understand what teenagers are going to. That's why if you're a parent, youth pastor, or teenager, I want to toss out five potential tips to help you drive towards a healthier digital lifestyle, and this is specifically aimed towards teenagers. 00:01:54:07 - 00:01:55:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry At the end of this video, I'm going to share 00:01:55:22 - 00:02:15:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with you my Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. The link is down below in the description. It is free for my Patreon community, so thank you if you are a part of that. If not just a few bucks. And in that resource there are two interactive family elements. So if you're a parent or a youth pastor, feel free to grab it and use it. 00:02:15:12 - 00:02:25:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And youth pastor share it with your parents as a resource to help them towards a healthier digital lifestyle for their teenagers. And as always in the hybrid Ministry show, 00:02:25:11 - 00:02:37:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry there are chapters down below at the bottom so that you can scrub ahead or back to whatever is most relevant to you. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:02:37:25 - 00:02:40:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I 00:02:40:18 - 00:02:55:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson, and as I said in the intro, I'm a 14 year youth ministry veteran, but I'm also a parent of kids six, and eight years old. So they're in, squarely in that generation Alpha sort of time frame. 00:02:55:25 - 00:02:59:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I see it on the horizon. I'm not quite there yet, 00:02:59:01 - 00:03:09:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry but I've also navigated it with teenagers and youth ministry, for 14 years, obviously still relevantly, and currently helping teenagers Wade 00:03:09:11 - 00:03:10:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry through and navigate 00:03:10:04 - 00:03:10:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry through this 00:03:10:25 - 00:03:30:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry digital sort of tension. And so I think that's the biggest thing, right? Is this tension between should we completely abdicate digital or should we teach them how to how to handle it with integrity and with a hygiene that makes sense, and that's going to actually help them as they enter into this world of adulthood and more responsibility. 00:03:30:10 - 00:03:48:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You see, as older generation like myself and even people older than us, a lot of times the mentality is like, your phone is the enemy, just get rid of it, throw it in the lake, throw it in the river and be that as it may, and that might even be the case. Like it might not even it might be something that's dangerous and bad and not helpful to you. 00:03:48:11 - 00:04:07:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. We they're not going anywhere. That's the hard thing is cell phones and technology. It's not going anywhere. The dial is only getting cranked up more and more and more. And so we're constantly living in this tension of what we want. Like, do we want to be Laura Ingalls Wilder and living out on the prairie versus like, being someone fully immersed in tech, 00:04:07:07 - 00:04:09:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry but knowing like, that's probably not good for us. 00:04:09:16 - 00:04:13:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we can also see and know the effects of it. And you got to remember, tech is 00:04:13:06 - 00:04:29:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry still in its infancy in a lot of ways. And so some of these long term effects brain and and anxiety and mental health, like we don't even know what or how much or if any of it affects us. And so here are five tips to help you and your family navigate through detoxing, 00:04:29:28 - 00:04:32:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry digital and finding balance in this quote. 00:04:32:14 - 00:04:34:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Always on world. Tip 00:04:34:18 - 00:04:34:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry one 00:04:34:28 - 00:04:42:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is potentially consider setting app time limits. You know I've done this in the past. I don't currently have them set 00:04:42:28 - 00:04:58:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on on my phone. And honestly, the reason behind that is because I'm I'm lazy, right? And I'm not practicing what I'm preaching. But in the past I have set app limitations for things like social media apps that I might scroll more endlessly on. 00:04:58:02 - 00:05:00:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And here's what you got to understand in my current role 00:05:00:12 - 00:05:20:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and job. Like one of my main and primary responsibilities is social media management, content creation and content posting. And so it's made it tricky for me because I can't just say I'm never going to be on Instagram, I'm never going to be on YouTube, or I'm never going to be on TikTok, because that's a key component of our youth ministry strategy. 00:05:20:07 - 00:05:24:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I'd put like a 15 minute or 30 minute time limit on those apps 00:05:24:29 - 00:05:39:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so that I could get on. So that I could post so that I could engage with comments, with anyone who's maybe interacted with our content. But then when that 30 minute or 15 minute time limit came to an end on any one of those apps, that would be it for the 00:05:39:19 - 00:05:39:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry day. 00:05:39:29 - 00:05:57:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, of course, my phone offers me right, like more opportunities to, like add more time, add more time. And so like, I would just kind of do that mindlessly and until eventually to the point where I just like would turn it off because I was on vacation or something. And then of course, I haven't gone back, you know, to turn those things back on. 00:05:57:22 - 00:06:25:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But consider that potentially for your, your teen or your tween or, whoever in your house might be, trying to navigate this balance between work and life and social and digital and screens and all of these things. And, linked right here is actually my review of the best parenting apps for 2025 and beyond. And so it's, conversation between, the Bach phone or a plus Circle by Disney or Covenant Eyes. 00:06:25:21 - 00:06:50:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All three have very different kind of approaches to parental controls and stuff like that, but all three are useful and helpful and beneficial. I give my honest youth pastor take and review, but, feel free to go against my opinion on that. Do whatever works best for you and for your family, but maybe consider setting time limits as a way to help balance this always on world. 00:06:50:22 - 00:06:58:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Tip number two is what if you turned your phone on to grayscale mode, right? There's a feature. My wife and I 00:06:58:20 - 00:07:13:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry both did it. And we turned our phones onto grayscale mode, and it was honestly disorienting. And what it does is it's meant to sort of help reduce, sort of those brain chemicals that cause you to be more addicted to your screen. 00:07:14:01 - 00:07:16:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when you're on it, it's like, 00:07:16:14 - 00:07:41:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you don't like it. Like I remember just absolutely hating it. And I hated looking at my phone. I hate doing all these things. But like, it was helpful because, time limits are force restrictions. Grayscale mode turns down the desire to just continue to be on my phone and continue to be on there mindlessly scrolling, mindlessly scrolling endlessly like it made me want to actually get off of it. 00:07:41:04 - 00:08:06:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So consider that as an option. Turn on grayscale mode on your phone. Tip number three as a family, what if you created screen free meals? What if once a day you as a family, committed to the discipline of having screen free meals? What if maybe maybe meals don't work? What if you chose, and reclaim some of your time as a family to have a one phone free time per day? 00:08:06:16 - 00:08:10:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Maybe that feels daunting and impossible. Then maybe just start at one phone 00:08:10:22 - 00:08:27:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry free time per week where everybody, including the parents, puts their phones away and you engage in one on 1 or 1 on many human discussion at the dinner table, or a family outing, or a family movie night or something like that, where you are phone free, free from distractions. 00:08:27:28 - 00:08:55:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're you're doing something together and reengaging relationally as a family. And you can even, you know, buy something linked down below, like a phone locker or a phone jail where everyone's phones go in, you know, for a set amount of time, and it doesn't open up until it's over and, you know, emergencies or whatnot. Like if you do it for an hour, even if there is an emergency within that hour, your phone will still tell you at the end of that hour and you'll be able to, you know, handle it as you need to. 00:08:55:14 - 00:08:59:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But it would be a good discipline for you and your family to try, 00:08:59:22 - 00:09:05:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry dialing it up even, a little bit more of a notch from screen free meals. What if you considered a 00:09:05:24 - 00:09:06:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry digital 00:09:06:15 - 00:09:14:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Sabbath? New Sabbath is an Old Testament term and word for taking a break, you know? So, like in the Rhythm of creation, 00:09:14:07 - 00:09:16:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you look at, the biblical account of creation. 00:09:16:19 - 00:09:35:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry God, created the earth in six days. But then on the seventh day, he rested. And you and I, like those of us who go to church like we know that God didn't need rest, right? Like God, God modeled that for Adam and Eve, and it's it's interesting if you think about it. God created man and woman on the sixth day, and then the seventh day he rested. 00:09:35:20 - 00:09:57:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so Adam and Eve's very first day of being created and being on this earth, they also two not only saw God rest, but they were experiencing that that version of Sabbath. And so what if with your phones, what if with technology, what if you created a quote, digital Sabbath of sorts, perhaps, like on a Saturday or Sunday or like a Friday night to a Saturday afternoon? 00:09:57:16 - 00:10:17:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like it doesn't have to be one full day. It could be like after work in school on, like a Friday. And then it goes to like a certain time on Saturday, where again, you as a family, maybe throw your phone in one of those boxes and you commit to not, you know, to not being on devices, not being on screens for a certain period of time. 00:10:17:26 - 00:10:35:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the fifth and final tip that I have for you here, to to engage in a healthier balance of an always on world is what if you just chose to charge your phone, not in your bedroom? I say charge your phone in your kitchen. First of all, you know, you need to know those emfs coming off your phone like they're 00:10:35:17 - 00:10:36:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry bad for you. 00:10:36:02 - 00:10:56:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It literally says it in the terms and conditions on your phone, so don't be right next to it while it's charging. Put it somewhere else, not only for your physical health, but also for your mental health, so that when you're in bed, you're in bed, maybe read, maybe, you know, actually go to sleep, but don't find yourself in there doomscrolling. 00:10:56:22 - 00:11:15:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But consider that as an option or discipline. Parents included kids as well, but keep those things out of rooms. Now just say again 14 year youth ministry veteran. Like, one of the things I've found, especially for teenagers, is gotta get those phones out of their rooms, behind closed doors, and in those privacy private moments. That's where a lot of like, bad decisions might happen. 00:11:15:29 - 00:11:32:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, like at summer camp for us, we collect everyone's phone and we charge it in a central spot in the room. They have access to it if their parents call whatever alarms. But we take them from them because we've found that it lights out when kids have phones. That's when shenanigans often happen. And so we take that away. 00:11:32:19 - 00:11:55:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's just that's just a rule, right? Like we don't confiscate phones for the whole week, but we do collect them and house them, so to speak, and like a cell phone collection location in order to help with behavior, to help with sleep, to help with a lot of different things. And so what if, as the fifth tip, that was something that you and your family committed to charging your phone away from the bedroom. 00:11:55:10 - 00:12:16:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you might be thinking like, well, now what do I do? Great. I'm glad you asked. Like I said at the beginning, I have, link down below the Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. You can go grab that. It's over on my Patreon is $3, but if you want to become a Patreon for $4 a month, you will not only get every one of these resources that I'm giving away over on that site, but you'll also 00:12:16:15 - 00:12:18:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry get a weekly bonus 00:12:18:10 - 00:12:18:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry podcast. 00:12:18:20 - 00:12:19:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you're in youth ministry, 00:12:19:29 - 00:12:29:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm just talking through what I do every week, and I'm giving creative ideas to help you lean into digital, but also handle it with care and integrity and dignity. And so 00:12:29:14 - 00:12:51:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry there's a couple of discussion prompts for families and a couple of action steps. And so I would say if you're in youth ministry, this would be a very well, spent $3 to share out in an email newsletter to parents to just encourage them, you know, to try, digital detox with their family, to work through and think through three or, I'm sorry, five different sort of tips to help them in their families. 00:12:51:26 - 00:12:56:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So, link here on screen is the next video in this series, called 00:12:56:18 - 00:13:11:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry scroll with Purpose teaching teens to use phones wisely in this digital age and in this digital world. I'd love to have you check that out. If you're here on YouTube, give us a like a rating, a subscribe. All those things really, truly help us out to be found in search. 00:13:11:26 - 00:13:17:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But until next time. 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Life today feels like itโ€™s always "on," and teenagers are growing up in a world where thereโ€™s no escape from the constant digital noiseโ€”even at home. Inspired by Winston Churchillโ€™s midday naps to reset his mental balance, this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show explores how we can help teensโ€”and ourselvesโ€”find moments of rest in an always-connected world. As a youth pastor with 14 years of experience, Iโ€™ve seen how the challenges of this generation differ from my own. In this video, Iโ€™ll share 5 practical tips for a healthier digital lifestyle, from screen-free meals to digital sabbaths. Plus, Iโ€™ll introduce the Digital Detox Family Challengeโ€”a [free to Patrons] worksheet to help families reclaim their time and focus. Whether youโ€™re a parent, teen, or youth pastor, join me for practical tools to build healthier habits.

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//Churchill Article
https://fullfocus.co/naps/

//Bark & Aura+Disney vs. Covenant Eyes: An Honest Youth Pastor Review
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00:00 Rest for the Soul in an "Always On" World
02:37 The Technology Tension
04:34 Tip #1
06:50 Tip #2
07:45 Tip #3
08:59 Tip #4
10:17 Tip #5
11:57 Digital Detox Worksheet

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TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Does

00:00:00:10 - 00:00:03:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
it feel like in life that you're just

00:00:03:08 - 00:00:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
always on? Like there's no break, there's no reprieve?

00:00:07:27 - 00:00:10:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Did you know, ironically,

00:00:10:06 - 00:00:21:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Winston Churchill, who was prime minister of Great Britain during World War One, fighting in at that time the world's greatest and biggest war, said this right. He regarded

00:00:21:19 - 00:00:33:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
his midday naps as, quote, essential for maintaining his mental balance, renewing his energy and reviving his

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
spirits as a youth pastor for 14 years.

00:00:36:26 - 00:00:44:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One thing that I've found that's unique about this generation of teenagers is that the cell phone has ushered in an era

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where they never are able to turn it off.

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The drama follows them home. Conversations with friends follows them home through group chats and Snapchat. And if they're not a part of it, then the tension or the fact that they're missing out might also be causing anxiety because while you as a parent may be taking their phone away from them, they

00:01:05:25 - 00:01:11:27
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don't know what someone else might be saying about them or what other drama they are going to be missing out on.

00:01:12:03 - 00:01:25:23
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When I was a kid, that wasn't an option. I was. I was able to go home, and home was able to be my safe spot. And my guess is, if you're a parent just like me, is that you're trying to help your, house be a

00:01:25:23 - 00:01:29:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
safe spot. And if you're a youth pastor, my guess is you're trying to help teens

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
navigate this anxiety.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you didn't grow up in this phenomenon of technology and digital, where you're

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
always on, you might not really truly understand what teenagers are going to. That's why if you're a parent, youth pastor, or teenager, I want to toss out five potential tips to help you drive towards a healthier digital lifestyle, and this is specifically aimed towards teenagers.

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At the end of this video, I'm going to share

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with you my Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. The link is down below in the description. It is free for my Patreon community, so thank you if you are a part of that. If not just a few bucks. And in that resource there are two interactive family elements. So if you're a parent or a youth pastor, feel free to grab it and use it.

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And youth pastor share it with your parents as a resource to help them towards a healthier digital lifestyle for their teenagers. And as always in the hybrid Ministry show,

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there are chapters down below at the bottom so that you can scrub ahead or back to whatever is most relevant to you. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I

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haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson, and as I said in the intro, I'm a 14 year youth ministry veteran, but I'm also a parent of kids six, and eight years old. So they're in, squarely in that generation Alpha sort of time frame.

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And I see it on the horizon. I'm not quite there yet,

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but I've also navigated it with teenagers and youth ministry, for 14 years, obviously still relevantly, and currently helping teenagers Wade

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through and navigate

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through this

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digital sort of tension. And so I think that's the biggest thing, right? Is this tension between should we completely abdicate digital or should we teach them how to how to handle it with integrity and with a hygiene that makes sense, and that's going to actually help them as they enter into this world of adulthood and more responsibility.

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You see, as older generation like myself and even people older than us, a lot of times the mentality is like, your phone is the enemy, just get rid of it, throw it in the lake, throw it in the river and be that as it may, and that might even be the case. Like it might not even it might be something that's dangerous and bad and not helpful to you.

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Right. We they're not going anywhere. That's the hard thing is cell phones and technology. It's not going anywhere. The dial is only getting cranked up more and more and more. And so we're constantly living in this tension of what we want. Like, do we want to be Laura Ingalls Wilder and living out on the prairie versus like, being someone fully immersed in tech,

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but knowing like, that's probably not good for us.

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And we can also see and know the effects of it. And you got to remember, tech is

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still in its infancy in a lot of ways. And so some of these long term effects brain and and anxiety and mental health, like we don't even know what or how much or if any of it affects us. And so here are five tips to help you and your family navigate through detoxing,

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digital and finding balance in this quote.

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Always on world. Tip

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one

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is potentially consider setting app time limits. You know I've done this in the past. I don't currently have them set

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on on my phone. And honestly, the reason behind that is because I'm I'm lazy, right? And I'm not practicing what I'm preaching. But in the past I have set app limitations for things like social media apps that I might scroll more endlessly on.

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And here's what you got to understand in my current role

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and job. Like one of my main and primary responsibilities is social media management, content creation and content posting. And so it's made it tricky for me because I can't just say I'm never going to be on Instagram, I'm never going to be on YouTube, or I'm never going to be on TikTok, because that's a key component of our youth ministry strategy.

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And so I'd put like a 15 minute or 30 minute time limit on those apps

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so that I could get on. So that I could post so that I could engage with comments, with anyone who's maybe interacted with our content. But then when that 30 minute or 15 minute time limit came to an end on any one of those apps, that would be it for the

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day.

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Now, of course, my phone offers me right, like more opportunities to, like add more time, add more time. And so like, I would just kind of do that mindlessly and until eventually to the point where I just like would turn it off because I was on vacation or something. And then of course, I haven't gone back, you know, to turn those things back on.

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But consider that potentially for your, your teen or your tween or, whoever in your house might be, trying to navigate this balance between work and life and social and digital and screens and all of these things. And, linked right here is actually my review of the best parenting apps for 2025 and beyond. And so it's, conversation between, the Bach phone or a plus Circle by Disney or Covenant Eyes.

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All three have very different kind of approaches to parental controls and stuff like that, but all three are useful and helpful and beneficial. I give my honest youth pastor take and review, but, feel free to go against my opinion on that. Do whatever works best for you and for your family, but maybe consider setting time limits as a way to help balance this always on world.

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Tip number two is what if you turned your phone on to grayscale mode, right? There's a feature. My wife and I

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both did it. And we turned our phones onto grayscale mode, and it was honestly disorienting. And what it does is it's meant to sort of help reduce, sort of those brain chemicals that cause you to be more addicted to your screen.

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And so when you're on it, it's like,

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you don't like it. Like I remember just absolutely hating it. And I hated looking at my phone. I hate doing all these things. But like, it was helpful because, time limits are force restrictions. Grayscale mode turns down the desire to just continue to be on my phone and continue to be on there mindlessly scrolling, mindlessly scrolling endlessly like it made me want to actually get off of it.

00:07:41:04 - 00:08:06:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So consider that as an option. Turn on grayscale mode on your phone. Tip number three as a family, what if you created screen free meals? What if once a day you as a family, committed to the discipline of having screen free meals? What if maybe maybe meals don't work? What if you chose, and reclaim some of your time as a family to have a one phone free time per day?

00:08:06:16 - 00:08:10:22
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Maybe that feels daunting and impossible. Then maybe just start at one phone

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free time per week where everybody, including the parents, puts their phones away and you engage in one on 1 or 1 on many human discussion at the dinner table, or a family outing, or a family movie night or something like that, where you are phone free, free from distractions.

00:08:27:28 - 00:08:55:14
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You're you're doing something together and reengaging relationally as a family. And you can even, you know, buy something linked down below, like a phone locker or a phone jail where everyone's phones go in, you know, for a set amount of time, and it doesn't open up until it's over and, you know, emergencies or whatnot. Like if you do it for an hour, even if there is an emergency within that hour, your phone will still tell you at the end of that hour and you'll be able to, you know, handle it as you need to.

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But it would be a good discipline for you and your family to try,

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dialing it up even, a little bit more of a notch from screen free meals. What if you considered a

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digital

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Sabbath? New Sabbath is an Old Testament term and word for taking a break, you know? So, like in the Rhythm of creation,

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you look at, the biblical account of creation.

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God, created the earth in six days. But then on the seventh day, he rested. And you and I, like those of us who go to church like we know that God didn't need rest, right? Like God, God modeled that for Adam and Eve, and it's it's interesting if you think about it. God created man and woman on the sixth day, and then the seventh day he rested.

00:09:35:20 - 00:09:57:16
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And so Adam and Eve's very first day of being created and being on this earth, they also two not only saw God rest, but they were experiencing that that version of Sabbath. And so what if with your phones, what if with technology, what if you created a quote, digital Sabbath of sorts, perhaps, like on a Saturday or Sunday or like a Friday night to a Saturday afternoon?

00:09:57:16 - 00:10:17:23
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Like it doesn't have to be one full day. It could be like after work in school on, like a Friday. And then it goes to like a certain time on Saturday, where again, you as a family, maybe throw your phone in one of those boxes and you commit to not, you know, to not being on devices, not being on screens for a certain period of time.

00:10:17:26 - 00:10:35:17
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And then the fifth and final tip that I have for you here, to to engage in a healthier balance of an always on world is what if you just chose to charge your phone, not in your bedroom? I say charge your phone in your kitchen. First of all, you know, you need to know those emfs coming off your phone like they're

00:10:35:17 - 00:10:36:02
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bad for you.

00:10:36:02 - 00:10:56:22
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It literally says it in the terms and conditions on your phone, so don't be right next to it while it's charging. Put it somewhere else, not only for your physical health, but also for your mental health, so that when you're in bed, you're in bed, maybe read, maybe, you know, actually go to sleep, but don't find yourself in there doomscrolling.

00:10:56:22 - 00:11:15:28
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But consider that as an option or discipline. Parents included kids as well, but keep those things out of rooms. Now just say again 14 year youth ministry veteran. Like, one of the things I've found, especially for teenagers, is gotta get those phones out of their rooms, behind closed doors, and in those privacy private moments. That's where a lot of like, bad decisions might happen.

00:11:15:29 - 00:11:32:13
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You know, like at summer camp for us, we collect everyone's phone and we charge it in a central spot in the room. They have access to it if their parents call whatever alarms. But we take them from them because we've found that it lights out when kids have phones. That's when shenanigans often happen. And so we take that away.

00:11:32:19 - 00:11:55:10
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And that's just that's just a rule, right? Like we don't confiscate phones for the whole week, but we do collect them and house them, so to speak, and like a cell phone collection location in order to help with behavior, to help with sleep, to help with a lot of different things. And so what if, as the fifth tip, that was something that you and your family committed to charging your phone away from the bedroom.

00:11:55:10 - 00:12:16:15
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So you might be thinking like, well, now what do I do? Great. I'm glad you asked. Like I said at the beginning, I have, link down below the Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. You can go grab that. It's over on my Patreon is $3, but if you want to become a Patreon for $4 a month, you will not only get every one of these resources that I'm giving away over on that site, but you'll also

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podcast.

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And if you're in youth ministry,

00:12:19:29 - 00:12:29:14
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I'm just talking through what I do every week, and I'm giving creative ideas to help you lean into digital, but also handle it with care and integrity and dignity. And so

00:12:29:14 - 00:12:51:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
there's a couple of discussion prompts for families and a couple of action steps. And so I would say if you're in youth ministry, this would be a very well, spent $3 to share out in an email newsletter to parents to just encourage them, you know, to try, digital detox with their family, to work through and think through three or, I'm sorry, five different sort of tips to help them in their families.

00:12:51:26 - 00:12:56:18
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So, link here on screen is the next video in this series, called

00:12:56:18 - 00:13:11:20
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scroll with Purpose teaching teens to use phones wisely in this digital age and in this digital world. I'd love to have you check that out. If you're here on YouTube, give us a like a rating, a subscribe. All those things really, truly help us out to be found in search.

00:13:11:26 - 00:13:17:01
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But until next time. And as always, my friends, I just want to encourage you to stay hybrid.

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Life today feels like itโ€™s always "on," and teenagers are growing up in a world where thereโ€™s no escape from the constant digital noiseโ€”even at home. Inspired by Winston Churchillโ€™s midday naps to reset his mental balance, this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show explores how we can help teensโ€”and ourselvesโ€”find moments of rest in an always-connected world. As a youth pastor with 14 years of experience, Iโ€™ve seen how the challenges of this generation differ from my own. In this video, Iโ€™ll share 5 practical tips for a healthier digital lifestyle, from screen-free meals to digital sabbaths. Plus, Iโ€™ll introduce the Digital Detox Family Challengeโ€”a [free to Patrons] worksheet to help families reclaim their time and focus. Whether youโ€™re a parent, teen, or youth pastor, join me for practical tools to build healthier habits.

๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/132

//Churchill Article
https://fullfocus.co/naps/

//Bark & Aura+Disney vs. Covenant Eyes: An Honest Youth Pastor Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYvsn2Kglk&t=160s

//Family Phone Lock Box
https://walmrt.us/3ZrChfI

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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 Rest for the Soul in an "Always On" World
02:37 The Technology Tension
04:34 Tip #1
06:50 Tip #2
07:45 Tip #3
08:59 Tip #4
10:17 Tip #5
11:57 Digital Detox Worksheet

--------------
TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:00:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Does

00:00:00:10 - 00:00:03:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
it feel like in life that you're just

00:00:03:08 - 00:00:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
always on? Like there's no break, there's no reprieve?

00:00:07:27 - 00:00:10:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Did you know, ironically,

00:00:10:06 - 00:00:21:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Winston Churchill, who was prime minister of Great Britain during World War One, fighting in at that time the world's greatest and biggest war, said this right. He regarded

00:00:21:19 - 00:00:33:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
his midday naps as, quote, essential for maintaining his mental balance, renewing his energy and reviving his

00:00:33:14 - 00:00:36:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
spirits as a youth pastor for 14 years.

00:00:36:26 - 00:00:44:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One thing that I've found that's unique about this generation of teenagers is that the cell phone has ushered in an era

00:00:44:10 - 00:00:48:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
where they never are able to turn it off.

00:00:48:15 - 00:01:05:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The drama follows them home. Conversations with friends follows them home through group chats and Snapchat. And if they're not a part of it, then the tension or the fact that they're missing out might also be causing anxiety because while you as a parent may be taking their phone away from them, they

00:01:05:25 - 00:01:11:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
don't know what someone else might be saying about them or what other drama they are going to be missing out on.

00:01:12:03 - 00:01:25:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
When I was a kid, that wasn't an option. I was. I was able to go home, and home was able to be my safe spot. And my guess is, if you're a parent just like me, is that you're trying to help your, house be a

00:01:25:23 - 00:01:29:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
safe spot. And if you're a youth pastor, my guess is you're trying to help teens

00:01:29:09 - 00:01:30:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
navigate this anxiety.

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But if you didn't grow up in this phenomenon of technology and digital, where you're

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always on, you might not really truly understand what teenagers are going to. That's why if you're a parent, youth pastor, or teenager, I want to toss out five potential tips to help you drive towards a healthier digital lifestyle, and this is specifically aimed towards teenagers.

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At the end of this video, I'm going to share

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with you my Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. The link is down below in the description. It is free for my Patreon community, so thank you if you are a part of that. If not just a few bucks. And in that resource there are two interactive family elements. So if you're a parent or a youth pastor, feel free to grab it and use it.

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And youth pastor share it with your parents as a resource to help them towards a healthier digital lifestyle for their teenagers. And as always in the hybrid Ministry show,

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there are chapters down below at the bottom so that you can scrub ahead or back to whatever is most relevant to you. Welcome, my friends, to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Well everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I

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haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayson, and as I said in the intro, I'm a 14 year youth ministry veteran, but I'm also a parent of kids six, and eight years old. So they're in, squarely in that generation Alpha sort of time frame.

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And I see it on the horizon. I'm not quite there yet,

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but I've also navigated it with teenagers and youth ministry, for 14 years, obviously still relevantly, and currently helping teenagers Wade

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through and navigate

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through this

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digital sort of tension. And so I think that's the biggest thing, right? Is this tension between should we completely abdicate digital or should we teach them how to how to handle it with integrity and with a hygiene that makes sense, and that's going to actually help them as they enter into this world of adulthood and more responsibility.

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You see, as older generation like myself and even people older than us, a lot of times the mentality is like, your phone is the enemy, just get rid of it, throw it in the lake, throw it in the river and be that as it may, and that might even be the case. Like it might not even it might be something that's dangerous and bad and not helpful to you.

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Right. We they're not going anywhere. That's the hard thing is cell phones and technology. It's not going anywhere. The dial is only getting cranked up more and more and more. And so we're constantly living in this tension of what we want. Like, do we want to be Laura Ingalls Wilder and living out on the prairie versus like, being someone fully immersed in tech,

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but knowing like, that's probably not good for us.

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And we can also see and know the effects of it. And you got to remember, tech is

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still in its infancy in a lot of ways. And so some of these long term effects brain and and anxiety and mental health, like we don't even know what or how much or if any of it affects us. And so here are five tips to help you and your family navigate through detoxing,

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digital and finding balance in this quote.

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Always on world. Tip

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is potentially consider setting app time limits. You know I've done this in the past. I don't currently have them set

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on on my phone. And honestly, the reason behind that is because I'm I'm lazy, right? And I'm not practicing what I'm preaching. But in the past I have set app limitations for things like social media apps that I might scroll more endlessly on.

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And here's what you got to understand in my current role

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and job. Like one of my main and primary responsibilities is social media management, content creation and content posting. And so it's made it tricky for me because I can't just say I'm never going to be on Instagram, I'm never going to be on YouTube, or I'm never going to be on TikTok, because that's a key component of our youth ministry strategy.

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And so I'd put like a 15 minute or 30 minute time limit on those apps

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so that I could get on. So that I could post so that I could engage with comments, with anyone who's maybe interacted with our content. But then when that 30 minute or 15 minute time limit came to an end on any one of those apps, that would be it for the

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day.

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Now, of course, my phone offers me right, like more opportunities to, like add more time, add more time. And so like, I would just kind of do that mindlessly and until eventually to the point where I just like would turn it off because I was on vacation or something. And then of course, I haven't gone back, you know, to turn those things back on.

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But consider that potentially for your, your teen or your tween or, whoever in your house might be, trying to navigate this balance between work and life and social and digital and screens and all of these things. And, linked right here is actually my review of the best parenting apps for 2025 and beyond. And so it's, conversation between, the Bach phone or a plus Circle by Disney or Covenant Eyes.

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All three have very different kind of approaches to parental controls and stuff like that, but all three are useful and helpful and beneficial. I give my honest youth pastor take and review, but, feel free to go against my opinion on that. Do whatever works best for you and for your family, but maybe consider setting time limits as a way to help balance this always on world.

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Tip number two is what if you turned your phone on to grayscale mode, right? There's a feature. My wife and I

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both did it. And we turned our phones onto grayscale mode, and it was honestly disorienting. And what it does is it's meant to sort of help reduce, sort of those brain chemicals that cause you to be more addicted to your screen.

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And so when you're on it, it's like,

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you don't like it. Like I remember just absolutely hating it. And I hated looking at my phone. I hate doing all these things. But like, it was helpful because, time limits are force restrictions. Grayscale mode turns down the desire to just continue to be on my phone and continue to be on there mindlessly scrolling, mindlessly scrolling endlessly like it made me want to actually get off of it.

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So consider that as an option. Turn on grayscale mode on your phone. Tip number three as a family, what if you created screen free meals? What if once a day you as a family, committed to the discipline of having screen free meals? What if maybe maybe meals don't work? What if you chose, and reclaim some of your time as a family to have a one phone free time per day?

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Maybe that feels daunting and impossible. Then maybe just start at one phone

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free time per week where everybody, including the parents, puts their phones away and you engage in one on 1 or 1 on many human discussion at the dinner table, or a family outing, or a family movie night or something like that, where you are phone free, free from distractions.

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You're you're doing something together and reengaging relationally as a family. And you can even, you know, buy something linked down below, like a phone locker or a phone jail where everyone's phones go in, you know, for a set amount of time, and it doesn't open up until it's over and, you know, emergencies or whatnot. Like if you do it for an hour, even if there is an emergency within that hour, your phone will still tell you at the end of that hour and you'll be able to, you know, handle it as you need to.

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But it would be a good discipline for you and your family to try,

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dialing it up even, a little bit more of a notch from screen free meals. What if you considered a

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digital

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Sabbath? New Sabbath is an Old Testament term and word for taking a break, you know? So, like in the Rhythm of creation,

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you look at, the biblical account of creation.

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God, created the earth in six days. But then on the seventh day, he rested. And you and I, like those of us who go to church like we know that God didn't need rest, right? Like God, God modeled that for Adam and Eve, and it's it's interesting if you think about it. God created man and woman on the sixth day, and then the seventh day he rested.

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And so Adam and Eve's very first day of being created and being on this earth, they also two not only saw God rest, but they were experiencing that that version of Sabbath. And so what if with your phones, what if with technology, what if you created a quote, digital Sabbath of sorts, perhaps, like on a Saturday or Sunday or like a Friday night to a Saturday afternoon?

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Like it doesn't have to be one full day. It could be like after work in school on, like a Friday. And then it goes to like a certain time on Saturday, where again, you as a family, maybe throw your phone in one of those boxes and you commit to not, you know, to not being on devices, not being on screens for a certain period of time.

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And then the fifth and final tip that I have for you here, to to engage in a healthier balance of an always on world is what if you just chose to charge your phone, not in your bedroom? I say charge your phone in your kitchen. First of all, you know, you need to know those emfs coming off your phone like they're

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bad for you.

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It literally says it in the terms and conditions on your phone, so don't be right next to it while it's charging. Put it somewhere else, not only for your physical health, but also for your mental health, so that when you're in bed, you're in bed, maybe read, maybe, you know, actually go to sleep, but don't find yourself in there doomscrolling.

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But consider that as an option or discipline. Parents included kids as well, but keep those things out of rooms. Now just say again 14 year youth ministry veteran. Like, one of the things I've found, especially for teenagers, is gotta get those phones out of their rooms, behind closed doors, and in those privacy private moments. That's where a lot of like, bad decisions might happen.

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You know, like at summer camp for us, we collect everyone's phone and we charge it in a central spot in the room. They have access to it if their parents call whatever alarms. But we take them from them because we've found that it lights out when kids have phones. That's when shenanigans often happen. And so we take that away.

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And that's just that's just a rule, right? Like we don't confiscate phones for the whole week, but we do collect them and house them, so to speak, and like a cell phone collection location in order to help with behavior, to help with sleep, to help with a lot of different things. And so what if, as the fifth tip, that was something that you and your family committed to charging your phone away from the bedroom.

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So you might be thinking like, well, now what do I do? Great. I'm glad you asked. Like I said at the beginning, I have, link down below the Digital Detox Family Challenge worksheet. You can go grab that. It's over on my Patreon is $3, but if you want to become a Patreon for $4 a month, you will not only get every one of these resources that I'm giving away over on that site, but you'll also

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get a weekly bonus

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podcast.

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And if you're in youth ministry,

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I'm just talking through what I do every week, and I'm giving creative ideas to help you lean into digital, but also handle it with care and integrity and dignity. And so

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there's a couple of discussion prompts for families and a couple of action steps. And so I would say if you're in youth ministry, this would be a very well, spent $3 to share out in an email newsletter to parents to just encourage them, you know, to try, digital detox with their family, to work through and think through three or, I'm sorry, five different sort of tips to help them in their families.

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So, link here on screen is the next video in this series, called

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scroll with Purpose teaching teens to use phones wisely in this digital age and in this digital world. I'd love to have you check that out. If you're here on YouTube, give us a like a rating, a subscribe. All those things really, truly help us out to be found in search.

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But until next time. And as always, my friends, I just want to encourage you to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 131: Secrets Revealed for Middle School Phone Usage https://www.hybridministry.xyz/131 41825e85-7af8-4bbf-80c6-61bae7bef0cf Thu, 09 Jan 2025 04:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 131 Secrets Revealed for Middle School Phone Usage full Nick Clason In this conversation, Nick Clason and Ronald Long discuss the challenges and opportunities of youth ministry in the digital age, particularly focusing on the role of technology and cell phones among middle schoolers. They explore the importance of engagement in content creation, the necessity of guidelines for responsible phone use, and the balance between digital and in-person ministry. The discussion emphasizes the need for open conversations between parents and children regarding technology, as well as collaborative resources for youth pastors to navigate these challenges effectively. 26:37 no โœ๏ธCollaborative Worksheet https://share.hsforms.com/1t_3g3O3XTBqI-vq1Orq7ngnumis ๐ŸŽง Ronald's Podcast https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/category/middle-school-ministry/ DESCRIPTION In this conversation, Nick Clason and Ronald Long discuss the challenges and opportunities of youth ministry in the digital age, particularly focusing on the role of technology and cell phones among middle schoolers. They explore the importance of engagement in content creation, the necessity of guidelines for responsible phone use, and the balance between digital and in-person ministry. 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Ronald (00:08) we are excited to be here. Whose show is it really? That's a question. Nick Clason (00:15) That is the question that people want to know the answer to. Ronald (00:19) Did I just take over hybrid youth ministry? I think I did. I did. great. This is mine now. And yours? You get middle school ministry. Yeah, this is it. Tell Andrea. no. Nick Clason (00:23) You did, you did. Yeah. Welcome. Well, actually, yeah, and I'm taking over middle school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have exactly. Bye, Andrea. Bye. Anyway, you know, Ronald, it's interesting and I'm excited to have this conversation because probably the biggest, one of the biggest pushbacks I get when I'm pushing stuff like in my hybrid ministry, just idea and whatnot is what about middle schoolers? especially like in our context, we don't get middle schoolers until like, or we get them at sixth grade, which there's an inflection point. And depending on the conservative nature of your church, there could be a lot of those students that have cell phones. And then a lot of students that don't, you know? And so like my main thing with hybrid ministry is trying to intersect people where they are. And I think the cell phone is just a great spot to try and aim for. Right. But what about those middle schoolers that are young and like don't have cell phones? And so. Ronald (00:57) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Nick Clason (01:21) I'm excited to have this conversation with you because you as a lifelong middle school youth pastor and host of podcasts, like you and a dad of daughters in that age age range, right? Like I want to hear your perspective because I'm it feels to me and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels to me like middle schoolers kind of run the gamut. Some that don't even have access to any technology and then some that are just all in way too much. You're a little scared for their well-being, you know. Ronald (01:29) EW. Yeah. Absolutely, and you're right because their parents also run the gambit too. So for people listening who don't know, I have in my house four teenage daughters. I have 18 year old senior graduating this year, then I have a freshman, a seventh grader, and a fifth grader. So I've got everybody. Nick Clason (01:54) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're right there. Ronald (02:15) And my elementary school kid who's in fifth grade, Ruth is telling me about like her friends who have cell phones and have had cell phones since like third and fourth grade. Like that's just been their reality. They have always had a phone. Think of the iPad kid who just like parents are like, yeah, whatever here, right? Here's just the next step up. Go ahead and have a phone. Don't care. Put whatever on it. And then like, Nick Clason (02:42) So Ronald (02:45) me and my family, this has become our rule, it was our rule with our first, you get your cell phone at the end of fifth grade. And so, and we'll talk a little bit more about this too because I have really appreciated what other parents like told me and helped me figure out. That cell phone only can do a couple things, right? And we stair-step eventually through it. Nick Clason (02:54) Okay. Hmm. So as we like lean into this, first of all, everyone should know, no matter where you're listening, hit the link down below, because Ronald and I put together kind of like a collaborative hybrid ministry for middle schoolers kind of resource. So take it, download it, use it, share it with your parents, whatever you want to do. But especially like here we are post-Christmas, and isn't it so true that most middle schoolers Ronald (03:30) Use it. Nick Clason (03:41) there's a lot of technology that's given under the tree. And so this is just a very timely conversation, right? Like let's talk about technology use and middle schoolers. give us, like, why you start there where you did a little bit, like dive a little deeper into that. Fifth grader, that's your rule. Is that your recommendation? Do you take it, would you recommend parents take that on more of a case by case type basis? What's the wisdom principle in that, or is it? Ronald (03:44) 100%. yeah. Nick Clason (04:08) you know, hard and fast, like, yeah, as soon as they're done with fifth grade, they're mature enough to have a cell phone or like, what's your, how do you make that decision? I guess, or how would you coach parents to make that decision? Ronald (04:17) So what we went through and what was kind of like the deciding factor for us is, I live in San Antonio and so we have, once my kid was finished with elementary school, our oldest, she had friends who were splitting up into like the four winds, right? And we wanted to give her a way to stay connected to them and so we were like, okay, we're going to give you a phone, but. Nick Clason (04:36) Mm. Yeah. Ronald (04:46) Big stipulations. We had it, it's an iPhone, so we locked it down pretty tight to where she couldn't download any apps without requesting permission, so that's a big deal. There's no browser on it. So in fact, my high schooler just got a browser this year for ninth grade. to put that in, yeah, no browser. Nick Clason (04:51) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, so that's like all of middle school. Yeah. Ronald (05:16) Specifically also, no social media. She actually also just got her first social media, which was Pinterest. you, stair steppin' man. That's a stair step. But that, okay, here's what I tell parents, and here's what I have told parents and what I am taking through. Imagine a cell phone like a car, right? You are, even for the visual. Nick Clason (05:25) Okay. Which, does that even count? know, like that's one of those fringe ones. For sure. Mm-hmm. Ronald (05:46) You're giving keys away to your kid. for the audio too. on. There we go. Little foley. Little foley for our audio listeners. You don't just give the Ferrari away to a 16 year old or a 15 year old and say, right, go figure that out. guess you know more about this than I do. Like, no, no. Nick Clason (05:46) There you go. Those are car keys, people. Ronald's jingling them. We'll narrate this. Yeah. Ronald (06:15) you start that kid backing in and out of your driveway in the beater, right? And so we took that principle and applied it to our kids having cell phones. So like, okay, you're going to get like a not great iPhones, not the brand new one. It's going to be like, the one with the one camera. Yeah. The one camera type deal. And we're going to stair step you through this. Well, that's just an Android, Nick. That's what you. Nick Clason (06:30) Mm-hmm. me down. Yeah. Maybe some crack screens like my Android here. The glass is apparently weaker. Ronald (06:45) That's fine. No, and so we've stair-stepped. so my seventh grader who has a phone, also has a phone in middle school, has a phone but doesn't have, again, social media doesn't have a browser. And we also put like a stipulation on where the phone can go. My girls, I live in a two-story house. All the bedrooms are upstairs. No phones upstairs. Like that's a rule for us. And so when ... Nick Clason (07:11) Great rule, by the way. I approve. Yeah. Ronald (07:14) When it's time to go to bed, the charger's downstairs and they have to charge their phone downstairs. No phones at the dinner table. In fact, even it's no phones after dinner. So we say, hey, get it done after dinner, no phones. Those are just like things that we have done as a family to be like, hey, here's the deal. We are going to give you permission that expands with responsibility. And then also cool thing as a parent, my kids don't have a cell phone after supper. Nick Clason (07:18) Yeah, good. Mmm. It's good. It's good. Mm-hmm. Ronald (07:44) So if I'm just scrolling on my cell phone after supper, they're like, hey dad, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah, you're right. I need to be off my phone. I need to pay attention to you. Nick Clason (07:46) They're calling you out. That's so smart. That's just like built in accountability right there, for sure. Yeah. And you know, the thing that I, I try and tell parents as well in our context and other youth ministry avenues and whatever, honestly, just like a lot of times the question is what product or what resource do you use to like monitor like your kids screen usage and all those types of things. And rest assured, there are a million different like resources and things out there that you can use and you can lean into. Ronald (07:57) It's huge. Absolutely. Nick Clason (08:22) But at the end of the day, the goal is for that thing not to become your kid's parent. The goal is for you to be the parent of it. Right. And so I love your rules because those guidelines are things that you've put in place. Like you can lock down an iPhone all you want, but you can still abuse it if it's in the room and they're on it until way after bedtime or you know, the no, no phones after dinner thing. Like there can be indiscriminate use or just like mindless use of it. And so. Ronald (08:50) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (08:51) You're being proactive and in on top of it, you know, and that's, that's what I really like and appreciate because that's the tech. There's always a workaround in the technology. That's what I've found. Like there's no foolproof piece of technology. It's always a work. Ronald (09:02) Heck yeah. No, I figured it out when I was dealing dial-up modem internet and my parents had the protective things when I was in high school. like, I can figure this out, you know? So no amount of blocking software or things like that will get around actual discipleship of your kids. Because you are a person who is imperfect, just like your kids. They're gonna make mistakes. So what do do? Nick Clason (09:10) Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's it. That's it. That's good. That's good. Let's shift gears a little bit then. Let's talk about your, how you've noticed technology, cell phones, whatever, within actual confines of youth ministry. Not just, you you parenting your kids with it, but like, what's it like navigating? Cause in a lot of cases, like we said, you got kids that don't even have it at all versus kids who are like using and fully on like all the social apps. So. Ronald (09:36) Like, how do you figure that out? Big deal. Yeah. Nick Clason (10:03) What was your typical practice as a middle school pastor with technology? Ronald (10:10) Yeah, of it was just being open about that being a potential barrier between you and other people. And the other thing was not, because I was in a real conservative context, there was almost like some judgment to kids who did have a phone, which was really funny. And so I had to like stamp, yeah, I'm glad you get it. So. Nick Clason (10:28) Mm Yeah, same here by the way, so I can relate to that. Ronald (10:39) On the one hand, whenever I had a parent being like, you know what, my kid just say that they don't connect very, they don't have any friends in youth ministry. And I'm looking at their kid, I so remember this one specific instance of girl, phone here, face down, and even her hair like covered the side of her face to where all it was, and she was in a corner on her phone looking down at it and not engaging with the room. Nick Clason (10:59) Yeah. Ronald (11:07) And then like I got a email three weeks later being like, my daughter is just not making any friends. I'm like, yeah, no joke. I've tried. And so trying to have a conversation with students where it's both not being judgmental, but also making sure they're aware of like, hey guys, if you feel lonely, one of the reasons in a list might be you're on your phone too much and you're missing what's going on right in front of you. Nick Clason (11:13) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ronald (11:36) you care more about your online persona or the next funny video than you do your friend who's literally sitting three feet away from you. so trying to navigate that well was always the thing. And so that would just be like application. But on the other hand, you can do that in really great ways to be like, Hey guys, if you've got a phone, text a friend verse right now, someone who's not in this room, text an encouraging verse. Nick Clason (11:52) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ronald (12:03) so that you can be a light in their life, right? It's both and, right? So I don't like telling a kid, hey, cell phones are the devil, you should never have one. And I don't like telling parents, just give your kid a phone and don't worry about it, because it's absolutely both and. Nick Clason (12:08) Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's honestly, that's exactly like what I feel like my entire podcast is predicated on. what this started out of, I don't know, I guess like a moment of frustration and a little bit of like an inflection point. like we'd gone pretty hard in on like digital ministry during COVID. I was working in Chicago and so it was necessitated, like it had to happen. But then we found some really fun and cool wins out of doing ministry in a digital sort of context and some opportunities that actually opened up for us that weren't available to us doing ministry pre-COVID. And so as we were all sort of coming back from, you know, restrictions and lockdown and all those types of things, we were then trying to navigate this like tension between like how much should we swing the pendulum, right? And so my whole, like my whole thing, like the whole name of this like hybrid ministry is like, Ronald (13:08) Yeah. Nick Clason (13:13) It's not just your digital, but it's not just your in-person. It's kind of that both and, and I think in all of life, it's easier for us. We like to draw hard and hard and fast lines and be like, cell phones are bad. So you should not, but I like your, you know, your Ferrari example because you have to work, you have to work up to it. You don't just earn it immediately. And so like my contention is as much as we, especially older generations want to lament cell phones and how difficult they are for ministry and connection and they are like in some cases they definitely are, but like there's also a lot of good, you know, that comes out of them. your friend a verse or group chats. Like group chats are such a simple thing that didn't exist. Was it 10 years ago? 15 years ago? Like even if you have people with Android, like group chats are still a way to stay connected, you know, to one another. but you know, so like that's, that's kind of like my contention is like Ronald (13:54) Mm-hmm. No, you can't connect with people with Androids over group chat. It doesn't happen. Nick Clason (14:11) we have to help students navigate this well and not just settle for the easy answer of just throw your cell phone in a river. It's terrible and it's the enemy. And if we think that, then why are we getting our kids these things for Christmas? It's like, I just need to call them at practice. Okay, but now you've opened Pandora's box and that's not necessarily a bad thing, not condemning any parent for doing that. I'm just saying now we have to help them navigate that well, both at the parent level and also while we're like... Ronald (14:20) Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Nick Clason (14:40) navigating and managing that within like our student ministries. Ronald (14:44) Sure, and it's just as important as showing your kid what you version can do and be like, hey, you know what's really cool about you version? It's a Bible reading plan. Let's you and me do it together, parent and kid. Or, hey, as a ministry, we're gonna do this month long Bible reading plan. That's on your phone. Yeah, it's absolutely being able to use the tools that are available to us, because we could have said the same thing about lamenting the invention of the car, taking away our, aw man, we're not as Nick Clason (14:50) Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Course privileges. Ronald (15:14) connected. So yeah, and since this is the middle school ministry podcast too, it matters to a middle school student what you model to them. Because they take that to heart. so my whole thing was not trying to judge those who had a cell phone. But yeah, absolutely. If they're going to be on YouTube, Nick Clason (15:22) Mm-hmm. Mm. Mm-hmm. Ronald (15:44) watching you know Mr. Beast do whatever Mr. Beast does then I kind of also want them to hear from their youth pastor every now and then and so that's an easy thing to do like you pastor to take your phone spend five minutes making five reels and then or five shorts for YouTube and be like hey look my kids are gonna get some encouragement for me this week that's it's out there Nick Clason (15:51) Why not? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely. And one thing I've noticed and I've seen in like studies and stuff here recently is like, you know, Gen X boomers even have all sort of like settled in on Facebook millennials. Are you millennial, Ronald? Yeah. All right. Me too. Me too. Instagram, right? It's kind of like millennials favorite platform. Gen Z sort of like made tick tock its thing. We're noticing Ronald (16:22) yes, and how dare you. Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (16:34) Jen Alpha's making YouTube kind of their spot. And I, yeah. And I even read that it, for Jen Alpha, it's taking the place of Google as its preferred search engine. And so what an opportunity for us like to be on there, you know, and for middle school kids to see us, to see their youth pastor, to maybe even see themselves or their friends from youth group. You know, if you post shorts, reels, all that type of stuff on there, like Ronald (16:36) Yeah, it is YouTube. Absolutely. Nick Clason (17:01) You're so right. Like it's such a fantastic opportunity. it really, just exactly what my whole goal with hybrid is like showing up where they are. Like if they're on YouTube, how cool is it? Like they can get on there and they can watch MrBeast who's all across the country and also their church. Ronald (17:17) Well, and to even use the platform like it's currently being used then, how cool would it be if your kid typed in how to study the Bible and they got an answer from their youth pastor immediately? Like you already had a five minute video on how to study the Bible that you had prepared for your kids and it was there, right? Because that's how they're using the platform. Nick Clason (17:30) Right? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's not just like, it's not just there for you as a youth pastor to have another channel for announcements, though you can be, but I would, what I encourage people to do is use the platforms for their intended uses. And so if you're going to use it for a thing that you think is what your ministry needs, but it's not in alignment with the intended use of the platform, you're not going to see the same types of results than if you actually use it for what it's being used for, which is answering specific questions. Ronald (17:46) Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Nick Clason (18:09) And frankly, entertainment, right? And maybe like a little bit of inspiration too. So that's good. So what would you say to a middle school youth pastor or any youth pastor out there, like who's got people in their church like you and like me who are a little leery about cell phone, cell phone usage, middle school. Like what's the, how would you coach them, you know, to either lean in and have that conversation or. Ronald (18:26) Mm-hmm. Nick Clason (18:38) with parents or how to like manage maybe some of that potential like turbulent waters of, you know, angry parents who think cell phones are evil and of the devil. Ronald (18:48) You know what's funny is when I first started in ministry, there was a big deal where we said, don't bring any cell phones to camp. And then there was a really turbulent season in between when we arrived to my kid as a parent saying, my kid will bring their phone to camp or they're not going. Nick Clason (18:58) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. yeah. Ronald (19:18) And so navigating that in between, I think there are far fewer parents who are going to say that a cell phone is evil. They might be saying, my kid has to have one because I need to be connected and know what's up with my kid at all times. Nick Clason (19:27) Yeah. Yeah. Ronald (19:35) which is a different type of unhealth, that's fine. We can go from there. To help a youth pastor navigate the cell phones. Cell phones are bad, right? A cell phone is the same, to use the car analogy. It's a tool. can take you someplace great. It can take you someplace awful. And if you want to be the youth pastor who's like, no cell phones in the youth room. They go in this box over here and we use paper Bible still. Like that's fine. Nick Clason (19:45) Yeah. Yeah, you can do that. Yeah, yeah. Ronald (20:04) if you explain that, right? As long as you're saying, why we do this as a ministry, this is the vision, this is what we're trying to accomplish. Do that, but you're going to have parents who, when you go to camp, when you go to retreat, they're gonna push back on you and be like, hey, my kid is going to take their cell phone. I don't care what their rules are. Nick Clason (20:28) Yeah. Well, like when did you get a cell phone? Like how old were you when you got a cell phone? Yeah. Ronald (20:31) I was 16 and I got a cell phone because my parents were afraid that I was going to get lost when I started driving by myself. So I got my dad's secretary's old Nokia phone. Nick Clason (20:45) But so you're 16, right? And now you're the type of parent in that particular age bracket and demographic, you're sending your daughter's kids to camp. like that's all, know, cell phones from the age of 16 for you and on up. Like I was about the same, you know, so here in a couple of years when my kids are old enough to go to camp, I only, that's my like comfort zone, you know? And so like I get their scary stuff on it, but Ronald (20:56) Yeah. Yeah. Nick Clason (21:14) It's also gonna, it's not, you're not never gonna give your kid a cell phone. So how do we, and that's my thing, how do we help lean in and teach them the good things of it? Put good, good rules and guidelines and guardrails all around it so that you're hopefully protecting your kids and having conversations, you know, with it. Ronald (21:25) Yeah. It's exactly that. It's continued conversations with kids. And even as a parent being okay to say, these are our non-cell phone times to where we're going to talk. I know parents who like to say no phones in the car because that 15 minute, 20 minute drive can be like, hey, we can actually have a conversation as we drive around. But just having conversations about your phone usage. Hey, who are you following? Hey. Nick Clason (21:35) That's it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so true. Mm-hmm. Ronald (22:00) I or even telling like I will do this with my girls. I'll send them goofy videos and goofy memes Not because I think they're the funniest thing in the world But I'm trying to connect with them on their level like to my own kids and so like It's funny because they don't have social media what I'm doing is screen recording a funny reel I saw and then sending that to them as a message Nick Clason (22:09) Yeah, yeah. Yeah dude. Yeah, for sure. Bro, that's so committed, but I love it. Like that's, you you're like, we're not doing the social media thing, but I still want you to see this thing that I saw on social media and it's funny. So you'll like it. It's great. Ronald (22:34) Yeah, and I want you to know that I'm thinking of you throughout the day. I want you to laugh. This is a funny thing. And yeah, phones aren't the devil. Yeah, so it's trying to continually have a conversation with your kid. And even where you're saying, hopefully they're coming to you and being like, my friend is being dumb in the group chat. They go, okay, what did they say? Talking through what's good to text, what's not good to text, how... Nick Clason (22:43) That's great, Ronald (23:02) inflection matters and be like, Hey, I know you hate it, but this might be a FaceTime moment because it sounds like you guys are not seeing each other texting back and forth. Maybe you need to like actually talk. Nick Clason (23:12) Yeah. Yeah, man, that's so good. Well, anything else, Ronald, before we hang this sucker up? Ronald (23:19) I think the most important thing a parent can do with their kid and having a phone is have some guidelines and have lots of conversations. I think if you stick into those two places, like you're gonna be in a spot where maybe sometimes it's uncomfortable, maybe it's sometimes you're giving a little bit more, you're giving more unearned responsibility away than you're ready for, but like that's parenting as a whole. You don't want your 18 year old kid. to get a cell phone and all social media all at once and be like, well, now I'm gonna learn everything. It's much, I think it's a much better experience for you and the kid if you walk them through the process together with you in the driver's seat sometimes and them in the driver's seat sometimes. Nick Clason (24:04) That's good. Yeah, actually, if anyone's listening to this, watching this like here live, like in the next several weeks, like that's what I'm doing on my podcast is I'm doing like some parent and kid kind of like tech talks. And so they're like aimed for youth pastors to like curate or have that conversation with like some downloadable worksheets and stuff like that that they can share. because I think that's, that's the key in all of this. Like it's, it's easier to draw a line in the sand and be like, no, this, like this is it. We're not doing that, but like we, Ronald (24:16) Mmm, yeah. Nick Clason (24:34) That's the phone has not allowed us to do that. It's not going away. So instead we got to figure out how do we lean into it into what's uncomfortable and maybe like uncertain waters, like lean into it to just open up that continued kind of conversation thing. So I think that's, that's so good. So, yo, if you're listening here for me on my channel, go follow everything Ronald's doing, middle school ministry podcast. It's dope. It's all about middle schoolers and he's got dope co-hosts. Ronald (24:48) Absolutely. Yeah. I just want to thank everybody for listening to my podcast, the hybrid ministry podcast. Thank you so much. That's really great. No, and if you're, if you're listening to this from middle school ministry podcast, you should definitely go check out what Nick Clayson is doing over in hybrid ministry. Some really good stuff, some really helpful things to carry the conversation forward when it comes to the digital world and youth ministry. Nick Clason (25:05) that you've taken over. Yeah, no, I love it. So good. And like I said, we both collabed on a little resource. It's free in both of our show notes, so go grab that. that's it, man. We'll talk to guys next time. 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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 The Role of Technology in Middle School Ministry
04:50 Guidelines for Responsible Cell Phone Use
09:50 Balancing Digital and In-Person Youth Ministry
14:53 Encouraging Healthy Conversations About Technology
20:01 Collaborative Resources for Youth Pastors

TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00)
What's up everybody? I'm Nick and this is.

Ronald (00:04)
Hey guys, I'm Ronald Long. How you doing?

Nick Clason (00:06)
We're excited to be here, Ronald. This is a weird thing. This is your show, this is my show, this is our show.

Ronald (00:08)
we are excited to be here.

Whose show is it really? That's a question.

Nick Clason (00:15)
That is the question that people want to know the answer to.

Ronald (00:19)
Did I just take over hybrid youth ministry? I think I did. I did. great. This is mine now. And yours? You get middle school ministry. Yeah, this is it. Tell Andrea. no.

Nick Clason (00:23)
You did, you did. Yeah. Welcome. Well, actually, yeah, and I'm taking over middle school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have exactly. Bye, Andrea. Bye. Anyway, you know, Ronald, it's interesting and I'm excited to have this conversation because probably the biggest, one of the biggest pushbacks I get when I'm pushing stuff like in my hybrid ministry, just idea and whatnot is what about middle schoolers?

especially like in our context, we don't get middle schoolers until like, or we get them at sixth grade, which there's an inflection point. And depending on the conservative nature of your church, there could be a lot of those students that have cell phones. And then a lot of students that don't, you know? And so like my main thing with hybrid ministry is trying to intersect people where they are. And I think the cell phone is just a great spot to try and aim for. Right. But what about those middle schoolers that are young and like don't have cell phones? And so.

Ronald (00:57)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Nick Clason (01:21)
I'm excited to have this conversation with you because you as a lifelong middle school youth pastor and host of podcasts, like you and a dad of daughters in that age age range, right? Like I want to hear your perspective because I'm it feels to me and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels to me like middle schoolers kind of run the gamut. Some that don't even have access to any technology and then some that are just all in way too much. You're a little scared for their well-being, you know.

Ronald (01:29)
EW.

Yeah.

Absolutely, and you're right because their parents also run the gambit too. So for people listening who don't know, I have in my house four teenage daughters. I have 18 year old senior graduating this year, then I have a freshman, a seventh grader, and a fifth grader. So I've got everybody.

Nick Clason (01:54)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you're right there.

Ronald (02:15)
And my elementary school kid who's in fifth grade, Ruth is telling me about like her friends who have cell phones and have had cell phones since like third and fourth grade. Like that's just been their reality. They have always had a phone. Think of the iPad kid who just like parents are like, yeah, whatever here, right? Here's just the next step up. Go ahead and have a phone. Don't care. Put whatever on it. And then like,

Nick Clason (02:42)
So

Ronald (02:45)
me and my family, this has become our rule, it was our rule with our first, you get your cell phone at the end of fifth grade. And so, and we'll talk a little bit more about this too because I have really appreciated what other parents like told me and helped me figure out. That cell phone only can do a couple things, right? And we stair-step eventually through it.

Nick Clason (02:54)
Okay.

Hmm. So as we like lean into this, first of all, everyone should know, no matter where you're listening, hit the link down below, because Ronald and I put together kind of like a collaborative hybrid ministry for middle schoolers kind of resource. So take it, download it, use it, share it with your parents, whatever you want to do. But especially like here we are post-Christmas, and isn't it so true that most middle schoolers

Ronald (03:30)
Use it.

Nick Clason (03:41)
there's a lot of technology that's given under the tree. And so this is just a very timely conversation, right? Like let's talk about technology use and middle schoolers. give us, like, why you start there where you did a little bit, like dive a little deeper into that. Fifth grader, that's your rule. Is that your recommendation? Do you take it, would you recommend parents take that on more of a case by case type basis? What's the wisdom principle in that, or is it?

Ronald (03:44)
100%.

yeah.

Nick Clason (04:08)
you know, hard and fast, like, yeah, as soon as they're done with fifth grade, they're mature enough to have a cell phone or like, what's your, how do you make that decision? I guess, or how would you coach parents to make that decision?

Ronald (04:17)
So what we went through and what was kind of like the deciding factor for us is, I live in San Antonio and so we have, once my kid was finished with elementary school, our oldest, she had friends who were splitting up into like the four winds, right? And we wanted to give her a way to stay connected to them and so we were like, okay, we're going to give you a phone, but.

Nick Clason (04:36)
Mm.

Yeah.

Ronald (04:46)
Big stipulations. We had it, it's an iPhone, so we locked it down pretty tight to where she couldn't download any apps without requesting permission, so that's a big deal. There's no browser on it. So in fact, my high schooler just got a browser this year for ninth grade. to put that in, yeah, no browser.

Nick Clason (04:51)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Okay, so that's like all of middle school. Yeah.

Ronald (05:16)
Specifically also, no social media. She actually also just got her first social media, which was Pinterest. you, stair steppin' man. That's a stair step. But that, okay, here's what I tell parents, and here's what I have told parents and what I am taking through. Imagine a cell phone like a car, right? You are, even for the visual.

Nick Clason (05:25)
Okay. Which, does that even count? know, like that's one of those fringe ones.

For sure.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (05:46)
You're giving keys away to your kid. for the audio too. on. There we go. Little foley. Little foley for our audio listeners. You don't just give the Ferrari away to a 16 year old or a 15 year old and say, right, go figure that out. guess you know more about this than I do. Like, no, no.

Nick Clason (05:46)
There you go.

Those are car keys, people. Ronald's jingling them. We'll narrate this.

Yeah.

Ronald (06:15)
you start that kid backing in and out of your driveway in the beater, right? And so we took that principle and applied it to our kids having cell phones. So like, okay, you're going to get like a not great iPhones, not the brand new one. It's going to be like, the one with the one camera. Yeah. The one camera type deal. And we're going to stair step you through this. Well, that's just an Android, Nick. That's what you.

Nick Clason (06:30)
Mm-hmm. me down. Yeah.

Maybe some crack screens like my Android here.

The glass is apparently weaker.

Ronald (06:45)
That's fine. No, and so we've stair-stepped. so my seventh grader who has a phone, also has a phone in middle school, has a phone but doesn't have, again, social media doesn't have a browser. And we also put like a stipulation on where the phone can go. My girls, I live in a two-story house. All the bedrooms are upstairs. No phones upstairs. Like that's a rule for us. And so when ...

Nick Clason (07:11)
Great rule, by the way. I approve. Yeah.

Ronald (07:14)
When it's time to go to bed, the charger's downstairs and they have to charge their phone downstairs. No phones at the dinner table. In fact, even it's no phones after dinner. So we say, hey, get it done after dinner, no phones. Those are just like things that we have done as a family to be like, hey, here's the deal. We are going to give you permission that expands with responsibility. And then also cool thing as a parent, my kids don't have a cell phone after supper.

Nick Clason (07:18)
Yeah, good.

Mmm. It's good. It's good.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (07:44)
So if I'm just scrolling on my cell phone after supper, they're like, hey dad, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah, you're right. I need to be off my phone. I need to pay attention to you.

Nick Clason (07:46)
They're calling you out.

That's so smart. That's just like built in accountability right there, for sure. Yeah. And you know, the thing that I, I try and tell parents as well in our context and other youth ministry avenues and whatever, honestly, just like a lot of times the question is what product or what resource do you use to like monitor like your kids screen usage and all those types of things. And rest assured, there are a million different like resources and things out there that you can use and you can lean into.

Ronald (07:57)
It's huge.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (08:22)
But at the end of the day, the goal is for that thing not to become your kid's parent. The goal is for you to be the parent of it. Right. And so I love your rules because those guidelines are things that you've put in place. Like you can lock down an iPhone all you want, but you can still abuse it if it's in the room and they're on it until way after bedtime or you know, the no, no phones after dinner thing. Like there can be indiscriminate use or just like mindless use of it. And so.

Ronald (08:50)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (08:51)
You're being proactive and in on top of it, you know, and that's, that's what I really like and appreciate because that's the tech. There's always a workaround in the technology. That's what I've found. Like there's no foolproof piece of technology. It's always a work.

Ronald (09:02)
Heck yeah.

No, I figured it out when I was dealing dial-up modem internet and my parents had the protective things when I was in high school. like, I can figure this out, you know? So no amount of blocking software or things like that will get around actual discipleship of your kids. Because you are a person who is imperfect, just like your kids. They're gonna make mistakes. So what do do?

Nick Clason (09:10)
Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

That's it. That's it. That's good. That's good. Let's shift gears a little bit then. Let's talk about your, how you've noticed technology, cell phones, whatever, within actual confines of youth ministry. Not just, you you parenting your kids with it, but like, what's it like navigating? Cause in a lot of cases, like we said, you got kids that don't even have it at all versus kids who are like using and fully on like all the social apps. So.

Ronald (09:36)
Like, how do you figure that out? Big deal.

Yeah.

Nick Clason (10:03)
What was your typical practice as a middle school pastor with technology?

Ronald (10:10)
Yeah, of it was just being open about that being a potential barrier between you and other people. And the other thing was not, because I was in a real conservative context, there was almost like some judgment to kids who did have a phone, which was really funny. And so I had to like stamp, yeah, I'm glad you get it. So.

Nick Clason (10:28)
Mm

Yeah, same here by the way, so I can relate to that.

Ronald (10:39)
On the one hand, whenever I had a parent being like, you know what, my kid just say that they don't connect very, they don't have any friends in youth ministry. And I'm looking at their kid, I so remember this one specific instance of girl, phone here, face down, and even her hair like covered the side of her face to where all it was, and she was in a corner on her phone looking down at it and not engaging with the room.

Nick Clason (10:59)
Yeah.

Ronald (11:07)
And then like I got a email three weeks later being like, my daughter is just not making any friends. I'm like, yeah, no joke. I've tried. And so trying to have a conversation with students where it's both not being judgmental, but also making sure they're aware of like, hey guys, if you feel lonely, one of the reasons in a list might be you're on your phone too much and you're missing what's going on right in front of you.

Nick Clason (11:13)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (11:36)
you care more about your online persona or the next funny video than you do your friend who's literally sitting three feet away from you. so trying to navigate that well was always the thing. And so that would just be like application. But on the other hand, you can do that in really great ways to be like, Hey guys, if you've got a phone, text a friend verse right now, someone who's not in this room, text an encouraging verse.

Nick Clason (11:52)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Ronald (12:03)
so that you can be a light in their life, right? It's both and, right? So I don't like telling a kid, hey, cell phones are the devil, you should never have one. And I don't like telling parents, just give your kid a phone and don't worry about it, because it's absolutely both and.

Nick Clason (12:08)
Yeah. Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's honestly, that's exactly like what I feel like my entire podcast is predicated on. what this started out of, I don't know, I guess like a moment of frustration and a little bit of like an inflection point. like we'd gone pretty hard in on like digital ministry during COVID. I was working in Chicago and so it was necessitated, like it had to happen.

But then we found some really fun and cool wins out of doing ministry in a digital sort of context and some opportunities that actually opened up for us that weren't available to us doing ministry pre-COVID. And so as we were all sort of coming back from, you know, restrictions and lockdown and all those types of things, we were then trying to navigate this like tension between like how much should we swing the pendulum, right? And so my whole, like my whole thing, like the whole name of this like hybrid ministry is like,

Ronald (13:08)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:13)
It's not just your digital, but it's not just your in-person. It's kind of that both and, and I think in all of life, it's easier for us. We like to draw hard and hard and fast lines and be like, cell phones are bad. So you should not, but I like your, you know, your Ferrari example because you have to work, you have to work up to it. You don't just earn it immediately. And so like my contention is as much as we, especially older generations want to lament cell phones and how difficult they are for

ministry and connection and they are like in some cases they definitely are, but like there's also a lot of good, you know, that comes out of them. your friend a verse or group chats. Like group chats are such a simple thing that didn't exist. Was it 10 years ago? 15 years ago? Like even if you have people with Android, like group chats are still a way to stay connected, you know, to one another. but you know, so like that's, that's kind of like my contention is like

Ronald (13:54)
Mm-hmm.

No, you can't connect with people with Androids over group chat. It doesn't happen.

Nick Clason (14:11)
we have to help students navigate this well and not just settle for the easy answer of just throw your cell phone in a river. It's terrible and it's the enemy. And if we think that, then why are we getting our kids these things for Christmas? It's like, I just need to call them at practice. Okay, but now you've opened Pandora's box and that's not necessarily a bad thing, not condemning any parent for doing that. I'm just saying now we have to help them navigate that well, both at the parent level and also while we're like...

Ronald (14:20)
Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (14:40)
navigating and managing that within like our student ministries.

Ronald (14:44)
Sure, and it's just as important as showing your kid what you version can do and be like, hey, you know what's really cool about you version? It's a Bible reading plan. Let's you and me do it together, parent and kid. Or, hey, as a ministry, we're gonna do this month long Bible reading plan. That's on your phone. Yeah, it's absolutely being able to use the tools that are available to us, because we could have said the same thing about lamenting the invention of the car, taking away our, aw man, we're not as

Nick Clason (14:50)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Course privileges.

Ronald (15:14)
connected. So yeah, and since this is the middle school ministry podcast too, it matters to a middle school student what you model to them. Because they take that to heart. so my whole thing was not trying to judge those who had a cell phone. But yeah, absolutely. If they're going to be on YouTube,

Nick Clason (15:22)
Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (15:44)
watching you know Mr. Beast do whatever Mr. Beast does then I kind of also want them to hear from their youth pastor every now and then and so that's an easy thing to do like you pastor to take your phone spend five minutes making five reels and then or five shorts for YouTube and be like hey look my kids are gonna get some encouragement for me this week that's it's out there

Nick Clason (15:51)
Why not? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely. And one thing I've noticed and I've seen in like studies and stuff here recently is like, you know, Gen X boomers even have all sort of like settled in on Facebook millennials. Are you millennial, Ronald? Yeah. All right. Me too. Me too. Instagram, right? It's kind of like millennials favorite platform. Gen Z sort of like made tick tock its thing. We're noticing

Ronald (16:22)
yes, and how dare you.

Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (16:34)
Jen Alpha's making YouTube kind of their spot. And I, yeah. And I even read that it, for Jen Alpha, it's taking the place of Google as its preferred search engine. And so what an opportunity for us like to be on there, you know, and for middle school kids to see us, to see their youth pastor, to maybe even see themselves or their friends from youth group. You know, if you post shorts, reels, all that type of stuff on there, like

Ronald (16:36)
Yeah, it is YouTube.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (17:01)
You're so right. Like it's such a fantastic opportunity. it really, just exactly what my whole goal with hybrid is like showing up where they are. Like if they're on YouTube, how cool is it? Like they can get on there and they can watch MrBeast who's all across the country and also their church.

Ronald (17:17)
Well, and to even use the platform like it's currently being used then, how cool would it be if your kid typed in how to study the Bible and they got an answer from their youth pastor immediately? Like you already had a five minute video on how to study the Bible that you had prepared for your kids and it was there, right? Because that's how they're using the platform.

Nick Clason (17:30)
Right? Yeah. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah, it's not just like, it's not just there for you as a youth pastor to have another channel for announcements, though you can be, but I would, what I encourage people to do is use the platforms for their intended uses. And so if you're going to use it for a thing that you think is what your ministry needs, but it's not in alignment with the intended use of the platform, you're not going to see the same types of results than if you actually use it for what it's being used for, which is answering specific questions.

Ronald (17:46)
Mm-hmm.

Yep. Yep.

Nick Clason (18:09)
And frankly, entertainment, right? And maybe like a little bit of inspiration too. So that's good. So what would you say to a middle school youth pastor or any youth pastor out there, like who's got people in their church like you and like me who are a little leery about cell phone, cell phone usage, middle school. Like what's the, how would you coach them, you know, to either lean in and have that conversation or.

Ronald (18:26)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (18:38)
with parents or how to like manage maybe some of that potential like turbulent waters of, you know, angry parents who think cell phones are evil and of the devil.

Ronald (18:48)
You know what's funny is when I first started in ministry, there was a big deal where we said, don't bring any cell phones to camp. And then there was a really turbulent season in between when we arrived to my kid as a parent saying, my kid will bring their phone to camp or they're not going.

Nick Clason (18:58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Ronald (19:18)
And so navigating that in between, I think there are far fewer parents who are going to say that a cell phone is evil. They might be saying, my kid has to have one because I need to be connected and know what's up with my kid at all times.

Nick Clason (19:27)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Ronald (19:35)
which is a different type of unhealth, that's fine. We can go from there. To help a youth pastor navigate the cell phones. Cell phones are bad, right? A cell phone is the same, to use the car analogy. It's a tool. can take you someplace great. It can take you someplace awful. And if you want to be the youth pastor who's like, no cell phones in the youth room. They go in this box over here and we use paper Bible still. Like that's fine.

Nick Clason (19:45)
Yeah.

Yeah, you can do that. Yeah, yeah.

Ronald (20:04)
if you explain that, right? As long as you're saying, why we do this as a ministry, this is the vision, this is what we're trying to accomplish. Do that, but you're going to have parents who, when you go to camp, when you go to retreat, they're gonna push back on you and be like, hey, my kid is going to take their cell phone. I don't care what their rules are.

Nick Clason (20:28)
Yeah. Well, like when did you get a cell phone? Like how old were you when you got a cell phone? Yeah.

Ronald (20:31)
I was 16 and I got a cell phone because my parents were afraid that I was going to get lost when I started driving by myself. So I got my dad's secretary's old Nokia phone.

Nick Clason (20:45)
But so you're 16, right? And now you're the type of parent in that particular age bracket and demographic, you're sending your daughter's kids to camp. like that's all, know, cell phones from the age of 16 for you and on up. Like I was about the same, you know, so here in a couple of years when my kids are old enough to go to camp, I only, that's my like comfort zone, you know? And so like I get their scary stuff on it, but

Ronald (20:56)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (21:14)
It's also gonna, it's not, you're not never gonna give your kid a cell phone. So how do we, and that's my thing, how do we help lean in and teach them the good things of it? Put good, good rules and guidelines and guardrails all around it so that you're hopefully protecting your kids and having conversations, you know, with it.

Ronald (21:25)
Yeah.

It's exactly that. It's continued conversations with kids. And even as a parent being okay to say, these are our non-cell phone times to where we're going to talk. I know parents who like to say no phones in the car because that 15 minute, 20 minute drive can be like, hey, we can actually have a conversation as we drive around. But just having conversations about your phone usage. Hey, who are you following? Hey.

Nick Clason (21:35)
That's it, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, so true.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (22:00)
I or even telling like I will do this with my girls. I'll send them goofy videos and goofy memes Not because I think they're the funniest thing in the world But I'm trying to connect with them on their level like to my own kids and so like It's funny because they don't have social media what I'm doing is screen recording a funny reel I saw and then sending that to them as a message

Nick Clason (22:09)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah dude. Yeah, for sure.

Bro, that's so committed, but I love it. Like that's, you you're like, we're not doing the social media thing, but I still want you to see this thing that I saw on social media and it's funny. So you'll like it. It's great.

Ronald (22:34)
Yeah, and I want you to know that I'm thinking of you throughout the day. I want you to laugh. This is a funny thing. And yeah, phones aren't the devil. Yeah, so it's trying to continually have a conversation with your kid. And even where you're saying, hopefully they're coming to you and being like, my friend is being dumb in the group chat. They go, okay, what did they say? Talking through what's good to text, what's not good to text, how...

Nick Clason (22:43)
That's great,

Ronald (23:02)
inflection matters and be like, Hey, I know you hate it, but this might be a FaceTime moment because it sounds like you guys are not seeing each other texting back and forth. Maybe you need to like actually talk.

Nick Clason (23:12)
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's so good. Well, anything else, Ronald, before we hang this sucker up?

Ronald (23:19)
I think the most important thing a parent can do with their kid and having a phone is have some guidelines and have lots of conversations. I think if you stick into those two places, like you're gonna be in a spot where maybe sometimes it's uncomfortable, maybe it's sometimes you're giving a little bit more, you're giving more unearned responsibility away than you're ready for, but like that's parenting as a whole. You don't want your 18 year old kid.

to get a cell phone and all social media all at once and be like, well, now I'm gonna learn everything. It's much, I think it's a much better experience for you and the kid if you walk them through the process together with you in the driver's seat sometimes and them in the driver's seat sometimes.

Nick Clason (24:04)
That's good. Yeah, actually, if anyone's listening to this, watching this like here live, like in the next several weeks, like that's what I'm doing on my podcast is I'm doing like some parent and kid kind of like tech talks. And so they're like aimed for youth pastors to like curate or have that conversation with like some downloadable worksheets and stuff like that that they can share. because I think that's, that's the key in all of this. Like it's, it's easier to draw a line in the sand and be like, no, this, like this is it. We're not doing that, but like we,

Ronald (24:16)
Mmm, yeah.

Nick Clason (24:34)
That's the phone has not allowed us to do that. It's not going away. So instead we got to figure out how do we lean into it into what's uncomfortable and maybe like uncertain waters, like lean into it to just open up that continued kind of conversation thing. So I think that's, that's so good. So, yo, if you're listening here for me on my channel, go follow everything Ronald's doing, middle school ministry podcast. It's dope. It's all about middle schoolers and he's got dope co-hosts.

Ronald (24:48)
Absolutely.

Yeah. I just want to thank everybody for listening to my podcast, the hybrid ministry podcast. Thank you so much. That's really great. No, and if you're, if you're listening to this from middle school ministry podcast, you should definitely go check out what Nick Clayson is doing over in hybrid ministry. Some really good stuff, some really helpful things to carry the conversation forward when it comes to the digital world and youth ministry.

Nick Clason (25:05)
that you've taken over.

Yeah, no, I love it. So good. And like I said, we both collabed on a little resource. It's free in both of our show notes, so go grab that. that's it, man. We'll talk to guys next time.

Ronald (25:34)
See you around.

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โŒšTIMECODES
00:00 The Role of Technology in Middle School Ministry
04:50 Guidelines for Responsible Cell Phone Use
09:50 Balancing Digital and In-Person Youth Ministry
14:53 Encouraging Healthy Conversations About Technology
20:01 Collaborative Resources for Youth Pastors

TRANSCRIPT
Nick Clason (00:00)
What's up everybody? I'm Nick and this is.

Ronald (00:04)
Hey guys, I'm Ronald Long. How you doing?

Nick Clason (00:06)
We're excited to be here, Ronald. This is a weird thing. This is your show, this is my show, this is our show.

Ronald (00:08)
we are excited to be here.

Whose show is it really? That's a question.

Nick Clason (00:15)
That is the question that people want to know the answer to.

Ronald (00:19)
Did I just take over hybrid youth ministry? I think I did. I did. great. This is mine now. And yours? You get middle school ministry. Yeah, this is it. Tell Andrea. no.

Nick Clason (00:23)
You did, you did. Yeah. Welcome. Well, actually, yeah, and I'm taking over middle school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have exactly. Bye, Andrea. Bye. Anyway, you know, Ronald, it's interesting and I'm excited to have this conversation because probably the biggest, one of the biggest pushbacks I get when I'm pushing stuff like in my hybrid ministry, just idea and whatnot is what about middle schoolers?

especially like in our context, we don't get middle schoolers until like, or we get them at sixth grade, which there's an inflection point. And depending on the conservative nature of your church, there could be a lot of those students that have cell phones. And then a lot of students that don't, you know? And so like my main thing with hybrid ministry is trying to intersect people where they are. And I think the cell phone is just a great spot to try and aim for. Right. But what about those middle schoolers that are young and like don't have cell phones? And so.

Ronald (00:57)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Nick Clason (01:21)
I'm excited to have this conversation with you because you as a lifelong middle school youth pastor and host of podcasts, like you and a dad of daughters in that age age range, right? Like I want to hear your perspective because I'm it feels to me and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels to me like middle schoolers kind of run the gamut. Some that don't even have access to any technology and then some that are just all in way too much. You're a little scared for their well-being, you know.

Ronald (01:29)
EW.

Yeah.

Absolutely, and you're right because their parents also run the gambit too. So for people listening who don't know, I have in my house four teenage daughters. I have 18 year old senior graduating this year, then I have a freshman, a seventh grader, and a fifth grader. So I've got everybody.

Nick Clason (01:54)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you're right there.

Ronald (02:15)
And my elementary school kid who's in fifth grade, Ruth is telling me about like her friends who have cell phones and have had cell phones since like third and fourth grade. Like that's just been their reality. They have always had a phone. Think of the iPad kid who just like parents are like, yeah, whatever here, right? Here's just the next step up. Go ahead and have a phone. Don't care. Put whatever on it. And then like,

Nick Clason (02:42)
So

Ronald (02:45)
me and my family, this has become our rule, it was our rule with our first, you get your cell phone at the end of fifth grade. And so, and we'll talk a little bit more about this too because I have really appreciated what other parents like told me and helped me figure out. That cell phone only can do a couple things, right? And we stair-step eventually through it.

Nick Clason (02:54)
Okay.

Hmm. So as we like lean into this, first of all, everyone should know, no matter where you're listening, hit the link down below, because Ronald and I put together kind of like a collaborative hybrid ministry for middle schoolers kind of resource. So take it, download it, use it, share it with your parents, whatever you want to do. But especially like here we are post-Christmas, and isn't it so true that most middle schoolers

Ronald (03:30)
Use it.

Nick Clason (03:41)
there's a lot of technology that's given under the tree. And so this is just a very timely conversation, right? Like let's talk about technology use and middle schoolers. give us, like, why you start there where you did a little bit, like dive a little deeper into that. Fifth grader, that's your rule. Is that your recommendation? Do you take it, would you recommend parents take that on more of a case by case type basis? What's the wisdom principle in that, or is it?

Ronald (03:44)
100%.

yeah.

Nick Clason (04:08)
you know, hard and fast, like, yeah, as soon as they're done with fifth grade, they're mature enough to have a cell phone or like, what's your, how do you make that decision? I guess, or how would you coach parents to make that decision?

Ronald (04:17)
So what we went through and what was kind of like the deciding factor for us is, I live in San Antonio and so we have, once my kid was finished with elementary school, our oldest, she had friends who were splitting up into like the four winds, right? And we wanted to give her a way to stay connected to them and so we were like, okay, we're going to give you a phone, but.

Nick Clason (04:36)
Mm.

Yeah.

Ronald (04:46)
Big stipulations. We had it, it's an iPhone, so we locked it down pretty tight to where she couldn't download any apps without requesting permission, so that's a big deal. There's no browser on it. So in fact, my high schooler just got a browser this year for ninth grade. to put that in, yeah, no browser.

Nick Clason (04:51)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Okay, so that's like all of middle school. Yeah.

Ronald (05:16)
Specifically also, no social media. She actually also just got her first social media, which was Pinterest. you, stair steppin' man. That's a stair step. But that, okay, here's what I tell parents, and here's what I have told parents and what I am taking through. Imagine a cell phone like a car, right? You are, even for the visual.

Nick Clason (05:25)
Okay. Which, does that even count? know, like that's one of those fringe ones.

For sure.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (05:46)
You're giving keys away to your kid. for the audio too. on. There we go. Little foley. Little foley for our audio listeners. You don't just give the Ferrari away to a 16 year old or a 15 year old and say, right, go figure that out. guess you know more about this than I do. Like, no, no.

Nick Clason (05:46)
There you go.

Those are car keys, people. Ronald's jingling them. We'll narrate this.

Yeah.

Ronald (06:15)
you start that kid backing in and out of your driveway in the beater, right? And so we took that principle and applied it to our kids having cell phones. So like, okay, you're going to get like a not great iPhones, not the brand new one. It's going to be like, the one with the one camera. Yeah. The one camera type deal. And we're going to stair step you through this. Well, that's just an Android, Nick. That's what you.

Nick Clason (06:30)
Mm-hmm. me down. Yeah.

Maybe some crack screens like my Android here.

The glass is apparently weaker.

Ronald (06:45)
That's fine. No, and so we've stair-stepped. so my seventh grader who has a phone, also has a phone in middle school, has a phone but doesn't have, again, social media doesn't have a browser. And we also put like a stipulation on where the phone can go. My girls, I live in a two-story house. All the bedrooms are upstairs. No phones upstairs. Like that's a rule for us. And so when ...

Nick Clason (07:11)
Great rule, by the way. I approve. Yeah.

Ronald (07:14)
When it's time to go to bed, the charger's downstairs and they have to charge their phone downstairs. No phones at the dinner table. In fact, even it's no phones after dinner. So we say, hey, get it done after dinner, no phones. Those are just like things that we have done as a family to be like, hey, here's the deal. We are going to give you permission that expands with responsibility. And then also cool thing as a parent, my kids don't have a cell phone after supper.

Nick Clason (07:18)
Yeah, good.

Mmm. It's good. It's good.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (07:44)
So if I'm just scrolling on my cell phone after supper, they're like, hey dad, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah, you're right. I need to be off my phone. I need to pay attention to you.

Nick Clason (07:46)
They're calling you out.

That's so smart. That's just like built in accountability right there, for sure. Yeah. And you know, the thing that I, I try and tell parents as well in our context and other youth ministry avenues and whatever, honestly, just like a lot of times the question is what product or what resource do you use to like monitor like your kids screen usage and all those types of things. And rest assured, there are a million different like resources and things out there that you can use and you can lean into.

Ronald (07:57)
It's huge.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (08:22)
But at the end of the day, the goal is for that thing not to become your kid's parent. The goal is for you to be the parent of it. Right. And so I love your rules because those guidelines are things that you've put in place. Like you can lock down an iPhone all you want, but you can still abuse it if it's in the room and they're on it until way after bedtime or you know, the no, no phones after dinner thing. Like there can be indiscriminate use or just like mindless use of it. And so.

Ronald (08:50)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (08:51)
You're being proactive and in on top of it, you know, and that's, that's what I really like and appreciate because that's the tech. There's always a workaround in the technology. That's what I've found. Like there's no foolproof piece of technology. It's always a work.

Ronald (09:02)
Heck yeah.

No, I figured it out when I was dealing dial-up modem internet and my parents had the protective things when I was in high school. like, I can figure this out, you know? So no amount of blocking software or things like that will get around actual discipleship of your kids. Because you are a person who is imperfect, just like your kids. They're gonna make mistakes. So what do do?

Nick Clason (09:10)
Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

That's it. That's it. That's good. That's good. Let's shift gears a little bit then. Let's talk about your, how you've noticed technology, cell phones, whatever, within actual confines of youth ministry. Not just, you you parenting your kids with it, but like, what's it like navigating? Cause in a lot of cases, like we said, you got kids that don't even have it at all versus kids who are like using and fully on like all the social apps. So.

Ronald (09:36)
Like, how do you figure that out? Big deal.

Yeah.

Nick Clason (10:03)
What was your typical practice as a middle school pastor with technology?

Ronald (10:10)
Yeah, of it was just being open about that being a potential barrier between you and other people. And the other thing was not, because I was in a real conservative context, there was almost like some judgment to kids who did have a phone, which was really funny. And so I had to like stamp, yeah, I'm glad you get it. So.

Nick Clason (10:28)
Mm

Yeah, same here by the way, so I can relate to that.

Ronald (10:39)
On the one hand, whenever I had a parent being like, you know what, my kid just say that they don't connect very, they don't have any friends in youth ministry. And I'm looking at their kid, I so remember this one specific instance of girl, phone here, face down, and even her hair like covered the side of her face to where all it was, and she was in a corner on her phone looking down at it and not engaging with the room.

Nick Clason (10:59)
Yeah.

Ronald (11:07)
And then like I got a email three weeks later being like, my daughter is just not making any friends. I'm like, yeah, no joke. I've tried. And so trying to have a conversation with students where it's both not being judgmental, but also making sure they're aware of like, hey guys, if you feel lonely, one of the reasons in a list might be you're on your phone too much and you're missing what's going on right in front of you.

Nick Clason (11:13)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (11:36)
you care more about your online persona or the next funny video than you do your friend who's literally sitting three feet away from you. so trying to navigate that well was always the thing. And so that would just be like application. But on the other hand, you can do that in really great ways to be like, Hey guys, if you've got a phone, text a friend verse right now, someone who's not in this room, text an encouraging verse.

Nick Clason (11:52)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Ronald (12:03)
so that you can be a light in their life, right? It's both and, right? So I don't like telling a kid, hey, cell phones are the devil, you should never have one. And I don't like telling parents, just give your kid a phone and don't worry about it, because it's absolutely both and.

Nick Clason (12:08)
Yeah. Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's honestly, that's exactly like what I feel like my entire podcast is predicated on. what this started out of, I don't know, I guess like a moment of frustration and a little bit of like an inflection point. like we'd gone pretty hard in on like digital ministry during COVID. I was working in Chicago and so it was necessitated, like it had to happen.

But then we found some really fun and cool wins out of doing ministry in a digital sort of context and some opportunities that actually opened up for us that weren't available to us doing ministry pre-COVID. And so as we were all sort of coming back from, you know, restrictions and lockdown and all those types of things, we were then trying to navigate this like tension between like how much should we swing the pendulum, right? And so my whole, like my whole thing, like the whole name of this like hybrid ministry is like,

Ronald (13:08)
Yeah.

Nick Clason (13:13)
It's not just your digital, but it's not just your in-person. It's kind of that both and, and I think in all of life, it's easier for us. We like to draw hard and hard and fast lines and be like, cell phones are bad. So you should not, but I like your, you know, your Ferrari example because you have to work, you have to work up to it. You don't just earn it immediately. And so like my contention is as much as we, especially older generations want to lament cell phones and how difficult they are for

ministry and connection and they are like in some cases they definitely are, but like there's also a lot of good, you know, that comes out of them. your friend a verse or group chats. Like group chats are such a simple thing that didn't exist. Was it 10 years ago? 15 years ago? Like even if you have people with Android, like group chats are still a way to stay connected, you know, to one another. but you know, so like that's, that's kind of like my contention is like

Ronald (13:54)
Mm-hmm.

No, you can't connect with people with Androids over group chat. It doesn't happen.

Nick Clason (14:11)
we have to help students navigate this well and not just settle for the easy answer of just throw your cell phone in a river. It's terrible and it's the enemy. And if we think that, then why are we getting our kids these things for Christmas? It's like, I just need to call them at practice. Okay, but now you've opened Pandora's box and that's not necessarily a bad thing, not condemning any parent for doing that. I'm just saying now we have to help them navigate that well, both at the parent level and also while we're like...

Ronald (14:20)
Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (14:40)
navigating and managing that within like our student ministries.

Ronald (14:44)
Sure, and it's just as important as showing your kid what you version can do and be like, hey, you know what's really cool about you version? It's a Bible reading plan. Let's you and me do it together, parent and kid. Or, hey, as a ministry, we're gonna do this month long Bible reading plan. That's on your phone. Yeah, it's absolutely being able to use the tools that are available to us, because we could have said the same thing about lamenting the invention of the car, taking away our, aw man, we're not as

Nick Clason (14:50)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Course privileges.

Ronald (15:14)
connected. So yeah, and since this is the middle school ministry podcast too, it matters to a middle school student what you model to them. Because they take that to heart. so my whole thing was not trying to judge those who had a cell phone. But yeah, absolutely. If they're going to be on YouTube,

Nick Clason (15:22)
Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (15:44)
watching you know Mr. Beast do whatever Mr. Beast does then I kind of also want them to hear from their youth pastor every now and then and so that's an easy thing to do like you pastor to take your phone spend five minutes making five reels and then or five shorts for YouTube and be like hey look my kids are gonna get some encouragement for me this week that's it's out there

Nick Clason (15:51)
Why not? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely. And one thing I've noticed and I've seen in like studies and stuff here recently is like, you know, Gen X boomers even have all sort of like settled in on Facebook millennials. Are you millennial, Ronald? Yeah. All right. Me too. Me too. Instagram, right? It's kind of like millennials favorite platform. Gen Z sort of like made tick tock its thing. We're noticing

Ronald (16:22)
yes, and how dare you.

Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (16:34)
Jen Alpha's making YouTube kind of their spot. And I, yeah. And I even read that it, for Jen Alpha, it's taking the place of Google as its preferred search engine. And so what an opportunity for us like to be on there, you know, and for middle school kids to see us, to see their youth pastor, to maybe even see themselves or their friends from youth group. You know, if you post shorts, reels, all that type of stuff on there, like

Ronald (16:36)
Yeah, it is YouTube.

Absolutely.

Nick Clason (17:01)
You're so right. Like it's such a fantastic opportunity. it really, just exactly what my whole goal with hybrid is like showing up where they are. Like if they're on YouTube, how cool is it? Like they can get on there and they can watch MrBeast who's all across the country and also their church.

Ronald (17:17)
Well, and to even use the platform like it's currently being used then, how cool would it be if your kid typed in how to study the Bible and they got an answer from their youth pastor immediately? Like you already had a five minute video on how to study the Bible that you had prepared for your kids and it was there, right? Because that's how they're using the platform.

Nick Clason (17:30)
Right? Yeah. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah, it's not just like, it's not just there for you as a youth pastor to have another channel for announcements, though you can be, but I would, what I encourage people to do is use the platforms for their intended uses. And so if you're going to use it for a thing that you think is what your ministry needs, but it's not in alignment with the intended use of the platform, you're not going to see the same types of results than if you actually use it for what it's being used for, which is answering specific questions.

Ronald (17:46)
Mm-hmm.

Yep. Yep.

Nick Clason (18:09)
And frankly, entertainment, right? And maybe like a little bit of inspiration too. So that's good. So what would you say to a middle school youth pastor or any youth pastor out there, like who's got people in their church like you and like me who are a little leery about cell phone, cell phone usage, middle school. Like what's the, how would you coach them, you know, to either lean in and have that conversation or.

Ronald (18:26)
Mm-hmm.

Nick Clason (18:38)
with parents or how to like manage maybe some of that potential like turbulent waters of, you know, angry parents who think cell phones are evil and of the devil.

Ronald (18:48)
You know what's funny is when I first started in ministry, there was a big deal where we said, don't bring any cell phones to camp. And then there was a really turbulent season in between when we arrived to my kid as a parent saying, my kid will bring their phone to camp or they're not going.

Nick Clason (18:58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Ronald (19:18)
And so navigating that in between, I think there are far fewer parents who are going to say that a cell phone is evil. They might be saying, my kid has to have one because I need to be connected and know what's up with my kid at all times.

Nick Clason (19:27)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Ronald (19:35)
which is a different type of unhealth, that's fine. We can go from there. To help a youth pastor navigate the cell phones. Cell phones are bad, right? A cell phone is the same, to use the car analogy. It's a tool. can take you someplace great. It can take you someplace awful. And if you want to be the youth pastor who's like, no cell phones in the youth room. They go in this box over here and we use paper Bible still. Like that's fine.

Nick Clason (19:45)
Yeah.

Yeah, you can do that. Yeah, yeah.

Ronald (20:04)
if you explain that, right? As long as you're saying, why we do this as a ministry, this is the vision, this is what we're trying to accomplish. Do that, but you're going to have parents who, when you go to camp, when you go to retreat, they're gonna push back on you and be like, hey, my kid is going to take their cell phone. I don't care what their rules are.

Nick Clason (20:28)
Yeah. Well, like when did you get a cell phone? Like how old were you when you got a cell phone? Yeah.

Ronald (20:31)
I was 16 and I got a cell phone because my parents were afraid that I was going to get lost when I started driving by myself. So I got my dad's secretary's old Nokia phone.

Nick Clason (20:45)
But so you're 16, right? And now you're the type of parent in that particular age bracket and demographic, you're sending your daughter's kids to camp. like that's all, know, cell phones from the age of 16 for you and on up. Like I was about the same, you know, so here in a couple of years when my kids are old enough to go to camp, I only, that's my like comfort zone, you know? And so like I get their scary stuff on it, but

Ronald (20:56)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Clason (21:14)
It's also gonna, it's not, you're not never gonna give your kid a cell phone. So how do we, and that's my thing, how do we help lean in and teach them the good things of it? Put good, good rules and guidelines and guardrails all around it so that you're hopefully protecting your kids and having conversations, you know, with it.

Ronald (21:25)
Yeah.

It's exactly that. It's continued conversations with kids. And even as a parent being okay to say, these are our non-cell phone times to where we're going to talk. I know parents who like to say no phones in the car because that 15 minute, 20 minute drive can be like, hey, we can actually have a conversation as we drive around. But just having conversations about your phone usage. Hey, who are you following? Hey.

Nick Clason (21:35)
That's it, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, so true.

Mm-hmm.

Ronald (22:00)
I or even telling like I will do this with my girls. I'll send them goofy videos and goofy memes Not because I think they're the funniest thing in the world But I'm trying to connect with them on their level like to my own kids and so like It's funny because they don't have social media what I'm doing is screen recording a funny reel I saw and then sending that to them as a message

Nick Clason (22:09)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah dude. Yeah, for sure.

Bro, that's so committed, but I love it. Like that's, you you're like, we're not doing the social media thing, but I still want you to see this thing that I saw on social media and it's funny. So you'll like it. It's great.

Ronald (22:34)
Yeah, and I want you to know that I'm thinking of you throughout the day. I want you to laugh. This is a funny thing. And yeah, phones aren't the devil. Yeah, so it's trying to continually have a conversation with your kid. And even where you're saying, hopefully they're coming to you and being like, my friend is being dumb in the group chat. They go, okay, what did they say? Talking through what's good to text, what's not good to text, how...

Nick Clason (22:43)
That's great,

Ronald (23:02)
inflection matters and be like, Hey, I know you hate it, but this might be a FaceTime moment because it sounds like you guys are not seeing each other texting back and forth. Maybe you need to like actually talk.

Nick Clason (23:12)
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's so good. Well, anything else, Ronald, before we hang this sucker up?

Ronald (23:19)
I think the most important thing a parent can do with their kid and having a phone is have some guidelines and have lots of conversations. I think if you stick into those two places, like you're gonna be in a spot where maybe sometimes it's uncomfortable, maybe it's sometimes you're giving a little bit more, you're giving more unearned responsibility away than you're ready for, but like that's parenting as a whole. You don't want your 18 year old kid.

to get a cell phone and all social media all at once and be like, well, now I'm gonna learn everything. It's much, I think it's a much better experience for you and the kid if you walk them through the process together with you in the driver's seat sometimes and them in the driver's seat sometimes.

Nick Clason (24:04)
That's good. Yeah, actually, if anyone's listening to this, watching this like here live, like in the next several weeks, like that's what I'm doing on my podcast is I'm doing like some parent and kid kind of like tech talks. And so they're like aimed for youth pastors to like curate or have that conversation with like some downloadable worksheets and stuff like that that they can share. because I think that's, that's the key in all of this. Like it's, it's easier to draw a line in the sand and be like, no, this, like this is it. We're not doing that, but like we,

Ronald (24:16)
Mmm, yeah.

Nick Clason (24:34)
That's the phone has not allowed us to do that. It's not going away. So instead we got to figure out how do we lean into it into what's uncomfortable and maybe like uncertain waters, like lean into it to just open up that continued kind of conversation thing. So I think that's, that's so good. So, yo, if you're listening here for me on my channel, go follow everything Ronald's doing, middle school ministry podcast. It's dope. It's all about middle schoolers and he's got dope co-hosts.

Ronald (24:48)
Absolutely.

Yeah. I just want to thank everybody for listening to my podcast, the hybrid ministry podcast. Thank you so much. That's really great. No, and if you're, if you're listening to this from middle school ministry podcast, you should definitely go check out what Nick Clayson is doing over in hybrid ministry. Some really good stuff, some really helpful things to carry the conversation forward when it comes to the digital world and youth ministry.

Nick Clason (25:05)
that you've taken over.

Yeah, no, I love it. So good. And like I said, we both collabed on a little resource. It's free in both of our show notes, so go grab that. that's it, man. We'll talk to guys next time.

Ronald (25:34)
See you around.

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Are you struggling 00:00:03:25 - 00:00:06:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to figure out digital ministry? 00:00:06:00 - 00:00:07:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, here's the deal. 00:00:07:20 - 00:00:13:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I created this video so that you can stop googling church social media tips. 00:00:13:23 - 00:00:18:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in fact, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me or anybody else. 00:00:18:16 - 00:00:27:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to show you and give you what it takes to be able to create a thriving online and digital hybrid presence. 00:00:27:22 - 00:00:30:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, here's the thing. I've been doing this podcast for 00:00:30:02 - 00:00:47:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry over two years now, and in my over two year journey of this podcast and hybrid ministry, I am helping churches do online well. But I'm also helping churches maintain their in-person presence and find that intersection, which is always the goal as we're trying to create 00:00:47:18 - 00:00:53:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry a church so that it matches and mirrors people where they are. 00:00:53:01 - 00:00:59:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that intersection is what I like to call hybrid right there in the middle. And so we're 00:00:59:02 - 00:01:11:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry going to dive into some of the frequently asked questions here on the Hybrid Ministry show as we round out 2024 and set our sights to 2025. 00:01:11:01 - 00:01:13:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you not haven't had a chance to meet you. 00:01:13:27 - 00:01:24:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry My name is Nicholas, and while I've been doing this podcast for two and a half years, I've been doing ministry for 14 years. And, my journey all along the way has led me towards this hybrid 00:01:24:01 - 00:01:31:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry sort of ministry. But in this episode, we are going to tackle some of the frequently asked questions that I've gotten from people all across the internet. 00:01:31:20 - 00:01:37:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Different groups have been in cohorts. I've run workshops, so I've led asking questions like, what 00:01:37:04 - 00:01:50:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is hybrid ministry? Why is it even important? What is your content schedule? What's your capturing schedule? How do you edit the videos? What is, what would you consult me to do if I was just getting started? And 00:01:50:01 - 00:01:52:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry we are going to walk through all of those things. 00:01:52:25 - 00:02:04:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget there are chapters down below at the bottom of the screen so that you can jump around to the question that means the most to you. Welcome to Hybrid Ministry show. 00:02:04:17 - 00:02:16:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Question number one. We alluded to it in the intro, but what is hybrid ministry? My favorite analogy, and this is actually some of the stuff that we're exploring over on my brand new Patreon 00:02:16:18 - 00:02:16:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry page. 00:02:16:29 - 00:02:34:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And some of these questions actually came from some of our brand new Patreon members. Shout out to Jesse. Johnson. Love having you over here. But, some of these questions, are like, what is hybrid ministry? Okay. So some of the questions are like, why? What's the purpose of this? What even is it? So it's important. 00:02:34:20 - 00:02:55:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's get a baseline okay. Again, chapters at the bottom. If you already know this, jump ahead. But hybrid ministry is intersecting your in-person and your digital, right. We all know in Covid we had digital church only. And we know that we hated it. Struggle with it, didn't know how to engage students. Well, we missed the in-person. And so when, restrictions are lifted, we all came back to in-person. 00:02:55:26 - 00:03:02:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we miss it. We miss community. We miss friendship. We miss praying with one another. We missed sharing meals together, 00:03:02:22 - 00:03:15:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry but we did a lot of good ministry over here too. Digitally. Right. And so, we kind of got these two buckets here. You got online only and you got in-person only. Let's let's examine 00:03:15:09 - 00:03:16:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry what each of those are good for. 00:03:16:14 - 00:03:30:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry My opinion online is a fantastic content delivery system. So emails, information announcements but also content sermons, podcasts, long form teaching courses, things like that. What is in-person good for 00:03:30:29 - 00:03:37:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that? Online struggles with real, authentic community. Like you. You can have a version of community 00:03:37:06 - 00:03:41:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry because of in-person friendships through like a means like texting or even like chats and stuff like that. 00:03:41:27 - 00:04:03:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I mean real in-person community, like, we all kind of hunger for it long for. And you, some people like, are in the metaverse and and that's satisfying that sort of age. They're friends with people from a distance. But but a lot of ways like real community life on life, sharing meals together, carrying one another's burdens, prayer requests, honestly, everything in like a shepherding, sort of like 00:04:03:05 - 00:04:04:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry small group space. 00:04:04:18 - 00:04:28:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if we look at a typical Sunday morning sermon, most of it is what we can accomplish with online. And thus in lies the inherent tension. Because everything we can do on a Sunday morning can be easily replicable. And frankly, it's even a little bit more attractive, especially to people like Gen, Gen Z, millennials, even Gen Alpha to consume content, sermons and church services online. 00:04:29:05 - 00:04:45:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But what younger generations are craving and the church has to figure out how to offer it in a way that, either takes the place of Sunday morning or as an attractive alternative to what's going on Sunday morning. Is that real, deep, authentic life on life, biblical community 00:04:45:19 - 00:04:50:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and that intersection of where you're online, which you should have online. 00:04:50:15 - 00:04:59:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you if you're a mostly in-person church hybrid ministry for you is adding in online so that you can have a more robust experience of your church, if you're an online 00:04:59:10 - 00:05:13:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry only church, which are very few and far between, you should figure out how to add some more in-person type elements so that we can intersect between the two online, online, in-person intersects at that hybrid ministry spot. 00:05:13:14 - 00:05:14:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I liken it to 00:05:14:25 - 00:05:39:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Home Depot. Okay, so I can go buy something on Home Depot website completely online experience, or I can go browse the aisles completely in-person experience. But that hybrid moment happens when I pull up my phone and I look on the app and it tells me exactly where I can find that boat, exactly what aisle and exactly what bay I'm in person, but I'm experiencing it through the app digitally, and thus it creates that sort of hybrid moment. 00:05:39:13 - 00:05:55:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're not, again, already over with us on Patreon, I would love to invite you because that's what we're doing. We're answering how I take my in-person services, and I'm sprinkling in hybrid, and I'm just literally walking you through what I'm doing on a week by week basis. Question number two 00:05:55:12 - 00:05:59:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry why? Like, why all this digital content? 00:05:59:03 - 00:06:05:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Why social media? Why YouTube? Why why why? Well, link down below is my 100% free 00:06:05:23 - 00:06:12:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry hybrid ministry strategy guide. I have been offering this now for over a year and it's gone 00:06:12:29 - 00:06:27:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry through a couple of rebrands, but the majority of what I've created in that has remained the same because social media, around the, pandemic time has actually shifted the way that it's been done. 00:06:27:09 - 00:06:29:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right? We were previously in what was known 00:06:29:06 - 00:06:37:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry as the Social Graph era, and now we're in what's called the Discovery era. Okay, so here's just a couple of things that are really important to know. 00:06:37:23 - 00:06:46:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry 95% of teenagers say that they have been, will be, or plan to be on YouTube. Now, obviously some of those are power users, and others of those are just 00:06:46:28 - 00:06:50:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry dabbling in it and looking up videos and stuff for their science fair projects. 00:06:50:09 - 00:06:54:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the fact of the matter is, 95% of teenagers are on YouTube. 00:06:54:16 - 00:07:08:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Furthermore, according to a recent book by Mccrindle. And so it's called Meeting Gen Alpha. They say that Google number one search engine in the world is now being supplanted by Generation Alpha with, you guessed 00:07:08:04 - 00:07:12:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry it, YouTube. Also, here's the beautiful thing about YouTube. 00:07:12:14 - 00:07:23:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I got to tell you, like, like I said, I've been creating content for this podcast for over two years and I will still sometimes get I also sometimes get comments I'll get referrals, I'll get people clicking links to 00:07:23:22 - 00:07:36:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry videos that I've made even over a year ago. Right. We don't have that luxury. Oftentimes in churches we create something for the moment, and then that thing dies on our hard drive and we continue on. 00:07:36:06 - 00:07:43:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry YouTube is masterful at promoting and allowing content to live on forever. Content creation, 00:07:43:20 - 00:08:00:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry marketing specialists, they call it evergreen content. If you want to know the type of content that teenagers, Gen Alpha, Gen Z, young people in your church are searching, you can use a keyword tool like vid IQ. In fact, I have a link down below if you want to give it a shot and a trial on using it. 00:08:00:24 - 00:08:24:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can do some research. Like what are teenagers asking? And then you go answer those questions. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Like like you should start there always. As you're planning a sermon series, right? Get some keyword research. What are people looking up online? What are the the big questions to life that they're asking. And then have that and then develop a sermon series. 00:08:24:17 - 00:08:33:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And by the way, if you develop your sermon series based off that keyword research is also going to make a fantastic YouTube video and fantastic YouTube 00:08:33:24 - 00:08:34:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry playlist. 00:08:34:04 - 00:08:42:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. Question number three. What is your content schedule and what is your capturing of that content schedule? 00:08:42:16 - 00:08:58:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So according to a website video, 90% of the internet's traffic today and moving on is short form discovery based vertical video, TikTok style, real style YouTube short style videos. 00:08:58:06 - 00:09:10:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In fact, I have a playlist linked right here on the content that I am creating, not only for my students, but with my students. It's my easy and effective social media playlist. It is the four different 00:09:10:25 - 00:09:20:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry social media types that not only do I have students capturing, but also that I have students editing and helping create that final piece form of content. 00:09:20:20 - 00:09:23:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So my schedule is I post two days a 00:09:23:11 - 00:09:45:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry week, I'm sorry, two times a day, five days a week. So ten different pieces of content. Let me walk through it with you. So in my playlist linked back up here that I said just a second ago my easy and effective playlist. We do four different game style videos, so we do drafts, we do seven questions, we do man on the Street and we do transition and invite style videos. 00:09:45:27 - 00:10:07:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Go to that playlist to check out the full, detailed, in-depth thing along with some free templates and downloads. And then an additional piece that we do is a Stay or scroll devotional style video. So that's five different videos, one of each of those that I post every single week. Okay. And I just kind of sprinkle them throughout the pieces of my content calendar that are a little bit like stronger. 00:10:07:15 - 00:10:32:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Again, short form vertical based video is three teaching clips, and those teaching clips come as clips off of our long form teaching content. Now I'm a youth pastor. We don't have live streaming capabilities, nor do we capture our videos live in our auditorium or in our worship space. So we actually sit down direct to camera and pre-filled. More messages made for YouTube with that vid IQ research indicator. 00:10:32:20 - 00:10:50:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we make those videos hopefully answering teenagers questions, creating evergreen content, and also playlists and sermon series that kids are asking for. And then they can go back to in the future when they're struggling with or have big questions about life, faith, God, whatever the case may be. And so that just that piece of content, we drop a different video every single week. 00:10:50:03 - 00:11:10:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It lines up just when we preach a sermon. Right? So if you're preaching a sermon this Wednesday night, you're preaching a sermon the Sunday night. Put that on video posted to YouTube. But off that YouTube video, three short form clips I use opus. I there's a link down below if you want to try out Opus Clip. It's a fantastic AI sermon short generator. 00:11:10:27 - 00:11:30:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I use it every single week in my ministry, so that's five different pieces of, easy and effective content off that playlist through different pieces of social content, using opus to clip them up. And then I got two more other pieces of content. One is our, meme Monday style video. Not video. I'm sorry meme Monday style post. 00:11:30:08 - 00:11:47:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's just about the only, non video post that I do. Not that I'm against non video post, but don't forget I'm a busy youth pastor and so I got this strategy sort of locked in. And so I don't have a lot of time to go back to the drawing board. And I got students and volunteers help them kind of keep it afloat. 00:11:47:01 - 00:12:00:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we'll reiterate and rehydrate when we need to. But for right now, this has been working for us. And then the 10th final piece of content is, anytime we meet, I get my phone out. I create little like 5 to 8 second clips, vertical video. I take it 00:12:00:24 - 00:12:04:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry into something like a TikTok. I click that auto cut button and boom! 00:12:04:22 - 00:12:15:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I then have a recap video for anytime we meet Sunday morning. Wednesday night I typically do Wednesday night. Now, like I said, my capturing is during the week. Me and anyone else on our team is going 00:12:15:27 - 00:12:23:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to be preaching. We sit down, we pre film all of our series. Like if we do like a four part series, we film all four of those in one day. 00:12:23:06 - 00:12:41:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One shot off teleprompter. All the things link down below is my studio guide. It has all the links to all the gear that we use. If you want to use a teleprompter or if you want to use, get a tripod, different lighting, all that type of stuff, check that out. So that's when we do those. And then on Wednesday nights when our youth ministry is going on 00:12:41:27 - 00:12:46:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry before and after, we have a social challenge that's happening every single Wednesday night. 00:12:46:19 - 00:12:53:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Students know about it. They seek it out. They want to know when and where is the social challenge happening. So two of those videos, 00:12:53:06 - 00:12:56:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Jason, seven questions. Those take place inside, behind a locked door. 00:12:56:22 - 00:13:04:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I walked over a closed door of our studio to come up with soundproofing and all those things run by volunteers and very few leaders. 00:13:04:14 - 00:13:13:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then, our other two videos are transition videos and man on the Street style videos. And so that's us being out and around in our building, in our space. So 00:13:13:06 - 00:13:25:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry it's a little bit more visible. And it also helps students sort of be gravitated towards and drawn to what we're doing here on social media. And as far as editing goes, opus II takes care of my editing for my message clips. 00:13:25:07 - 00:13:33:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I do the auto cut one on one on, Wednesday nights. I do that, like right before I start my car and get in to go home. And then the last one I have students 00:13:33:16 - 00:13:44:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry come in early, like early, early on Wednesday night. They're homeschool students, which are two of them. Fantastic. And around 2:00, 3:00 or so, submissions start till about six. 00:13:44:23 - 00:13:49:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so they're in there for 2 or 3 hours, editing videos and, you know, like we give them, you know, 00:13:49:24 - 00:14:00:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry some of them like free retreats or special incentives or we let them stay after and like eat at the leader lunch, you know, eat a leader lunch that we have or whatever. But, mostly they're just doing it because they like it. 00:14:00:14 - 00:14:03:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're fun doing it, and it's a good time. All right. Next question. 00:14:03:28 - 00:14:14:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How do you edit videos? Well, I just told you, like, I got students that are helping me, carry that load. I use some I but like the actual platform that I use is my preference is 00:14:14:24 - 00:14:18:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Adobe Premiere Pro. It is the most expensive of all the options. 00:14:18:29 - 00:14:22:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Final Cut Pro is another option. You can check that out if you're interested, or 00:14:22:16 - 00:14:41:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry DaVinci resolve, both of which are cheaper than Adobe Premiere Pro, primarily because Adobe Premiere Pro has a monthly subscription cost associated with it. However, what I learned, churches have paid for it for me for now. And I mean, I, you know, wish I could do something new, do something cheaper, but I don't have the bandwidth to to learn something cheaper. 00:14:41:13 - 00:14:48:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But there are cheaper options out there. You can of course you something like iMovie or Movie Maker on your windows and 00:14:48:02 - 00:14:59:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry cap cut actually has a fantastic editing platform. You can do quite a bit with it and you're going to look pretty professional. You can do that, obviously off of your film, but you can also do it off of like, just a 00:14:59:19 - 00:15:00:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry web editor. 00:15:00:25 - 00:15:17:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, I believe that they're, like premium or pro feature fee is not too difficult to, figure out and or not to not not too expensive. Not too high barrier to entry. So if that's something you're interested, go ahead and check out cap cut. All right. 00:15:17:01 - 00:15:23:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Last question I have here from those of you, thank you so much for submitting them via our Patreon community members. 00:15:23:05 - 00:15:40:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. Again, if you're interested, check that out down below. Link in the show notes. Question is, if you are consulting me, what order would you start with? Doing something starting from nothing. We have all the in-person, nothing digital. Well, here's what I would do. First of all, 00:15:40:15 - 00:15:43:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry make sure your website is up to date. 00:15:43:06 - 00:16:07:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Second of all, then I would start creating this short form vertical, videos and I would start with three per week. Right. So some sort of recap video, if you can't do a clip of your message, just do a selfie style talking head recap style video of it, right. If you do have like the long form footage of it, drop it into opus clip and try, you know, get a clip spit out. 00:16:07:08 - 00:16:25:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Second video I would do is I would do some sort of educationally based, spirit promoting spiritual practice sort of video. Okay. What I mean by that is like, you can have, a video off your camera, literally any video. One time I filmed a video of a turtle walking across the street in my neighborhood. It can be that simple. 00:16:25:16 - 00:16:41:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can do text on screen. Three things the Bible says about prayer. 1 to 3. Right? That I'll. And you can do that in any editor. You can use it in the, YouTube shorts that are the TikTok editor, the reels editor. You can bring it into something like cap cut and create it, export it and post it all those different places. 00:16:42:02 - 00:17:01:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But start creating those different types of content. And the last one is how to do some sort of fun thing, some sort of social challenge esque thing. Dress seven questions. And if those are too heavy on the edit side, which they are a little bit heavier on the edit side, they don't have to be, but they can be do man on the street, man, get a microphone, buy a cheap one. 00:17:01:14 - 00:17:17:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Again. I got some links down on my studio. Episode link down below. Buy some cheap mics and walk around and interview students in your space. Right? Like if I was doing this next week. All right, let's pretend you're watching this live end of 2024 and you come back in January. I'd walk around with a microphone. 00:17:17:05 - 00:17:18:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You or a student. 00:17:18:12 - 00:17:37:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. Off of any camera? Your camera, their camera doesn't matter. Get those two little USB microphones again, link down below, grab those and then walk around. Be like, hey, what's your New Year's resolution this year? And then ask them or give them a microphone and you can do something even funny with it. Like me and a former resident of mine, Caleb, shout out to Caleb Flywheel, my ETA. 00:17:38:09 - 00:17:45:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We put our little mikes, clipped them on to like, spoons, and then we just held spoons so you can walk around with spoons if you want to, like, have some sort 00:17:45:02 - 00:17:51:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of, like, handle thing to hold. Right. But, you know, like, what's your New Year's resolution? The other person's holding it and they answer and either they have one or they don't. 00:17:52:02 - 00:18:15:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or have you broken your New Year's resolution yet. And you ask them, and if you get like 8 or 10 of those people answering those questions, then you drop those in somewhere, either on your phone, you can edit something like capture or bring them in something even more powerful, like Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve. Whatever your editor of Choices and edit that down, post it, keep them less than 60s and you're off to the races 00:18:15:00 - 00:18:16:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and the eye on the prize. 00:18:16:25 - 00:18:35:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay, when I'm starting with you, the eye on the prize is to get long form videos up to YouTube. Okay, you don't have to do two times a day, five days a week like I do. You do you? I do want you to be regular, and I do want you to start getting your long form pieces of content to YouTube. 00:18:35:03 - 00:18:37:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's where I come in, because I can offer you 00:18:37:17 - 00:18:51:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry coaching where I'll teach you how to do it, or my communications done for you, or I'll actually do it for you. You film it, send it to me, I'll edit it. We can talk about price. We'll get to it. Both of those are linked down below in the description. 00:18:51:11 - 00:18:51:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here on 00:18:51:23 - 00:19:10:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry screen is the definitive social media guide for churches and youth ministries in 2025. I love for you to check that video out. If you're watching here on YouTube, just go ahead and tap that screen. But for the rest of you, I hope you had a merry Christmas. 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Church Social Media Explained
02:05 What is Hybrid Ministry?
05:55 Why Hybrid Ministry?
08:34 What is your content creation and capturing schedule?
14:04 How do you edit your videos?
15:17 If I consulted with you, how would you recommend I get started?

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TRANSCRIPT
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Pastor, youth pastor, church

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communications person. Are you struggling

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to figure out digital ministry?

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Well, here's the deal.

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I created this video so that you can stop googling church social media tips.

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And in fact, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me or anybody else.

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I'm going to show you and give you what it takes to be able to create a thriving online and digital hybrid presence.

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Now, here's the thing. I've been doing this podcast for

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over two years now, and in my over two year journey of this podcast and hybrid ministry, I am helping churches do online well. But I'm also helping churches maintain their in-person presence and find that intersection, which is always the goal as we're trying to create

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a church so that it matches and mirrors people where they are.

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And that intersection is what I like to call hybrid right there in the middle. And so we're

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going to dive into some of the frequently asked questions here on the Hybrid Ministry show as we round out 2024 and set our sights to 2025.

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Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you not haven't had a chance to meet you.

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My name is Nicholas, and while I've been doing this podcast for two and a half years, I've been doing ministry for 14 years. And, my journey all along the way has led me towards this hybrid

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sort of ministry. But in this episode, we are going to tackle some of the frequently asked questions that I've gotten from people all across the internet.

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Different groups have been in cohorts. I've run workshops, so I've led asking questions like, what

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is hybrid ministry? Why is it even important? What is your content schedule? What's your capturing schedule? How do you edit the videos? What is, what would you consult me to do if I was just getting started? And

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we are going to walk through all of those things.

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And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget there are chapters down below at the bottom of the screen so that you can jump around to the question that means the most to you. Welcome to Hybrid Ministry show.

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Question number one. We alluded to it in the intro, but what is hybrid ministry? My favorite analogy, and this is actually some of the stuff that we're exploring over on my brand new Patreon

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page.

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And some of these questions actually came from some of our brand new Patreon members. Shout out to Jesse. Johnson. Love having you over here. But, some of these questions, are like, what is hybrid ministry? Okay. So some of the questions are like, why? What's the purpose of this? What even is it? So it's important.

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Let's get a baseline okay. Again, chapters at the bottom. If you already know this, jump ahead. But hybrid ministry is intersecting your in-person and your digital, right. We all know in Covid we had digital church only. And we know that we hated it. Struggle with it, didn't know how to engage students. Well, we missed the in-person. And so when, restrictions are lifted, we all came back to in-person.

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And we miss it. We miss community. We miss friendship. We miss praying with one another. We missed sharing meals together,

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but we did a lot of good ministry over here too. Digitally. Right. And so, we kind of got these two buckets here. You got online only and you got in-person only. Let's let's examine

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what each of those are good for.

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My opinion online is a fantastic content delivery system. So emails, information announcements but also content sermons, podcasts, long form teaching courses, things like that. What is in-person good for

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that? Online struggles with real, authentic community. Like you. You can have a version of community

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because of in-person friendships through like a means like texting or even like chats and stuff like that.

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But I mean real in-person community, like, we all kind of hunger for it long for. And you, some people like, are in the metaverse and and that's satisfying that sort of age. They're friends with people from a distance. But but a lot of ways like real community life on life, sharing meals together, carrying one another's burdens, prayer requests, honestly, everything in like a shepherding, sort of like

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small group space.

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But if we look at a typical Sunday morning sermon, most of it is what we can accomplish with online. And thus in lies the inherent tension. Because everything we can do on a Sunday morning can be easily replicable. And frankly, it's even a little bit more attractive, especially to people like Gen, Gen Z, millennials, even Gen Alpha to consume content, sermons and church services online.

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But what younger generations are craving and the church has to figure out how to offer it in a way that, either takes the place of Sunday morning or as an attractive alternative to what's going on Sunday morning. Is that real, deep, authentic life on life, biblical community

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and that intersection of where you're online, which you should have online.

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So if you if you're a mostly in-person church hybrid ministry for you is adding in online so that you can have a more robust experience of your church, if you're an online

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only church, which are very few and far between, you should figure out how to add some more in-person type elements so that we can intersect between the two online, online, in-person intersects at that hybrid ministry spot.

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I liken it to

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Home Depot. Okay, so I can go buy something on Home Depot website completely online experience, or I can go browse the aisles completely in-person experience. But that hybrid moment happens when I pull up my phone and I look on the app and it tells me exactly where I can find that boat, exactly what aisle and exactly what bay I'm in person, but I'm experiencing it through the app digitally, and thus it creates that sort of hybrid moment.

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So if you're not, again, already over with us on Patreon, I would love to invite you because that's what we're doing. We're answering how I take my in-person services, and I'm sprinkling in hybrid, and I'm just literally walking you through what I'm doing on a week by week basis. Question number two

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why? Like, why all this digital content?

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Why social media? Why YouTube? Why why why? Well, link down below is my 100% free

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hybrid ministry strategy guide. I have been offering this now for over a year and it's gone

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through a couple of rebrands, but the majority of what I've created in that has remained the same because social media, around the, pandemic time has actually shifted the way that it's been done.

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Right? We were previously in what was known

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as the Social Graph era, and now we're in what's called the Discovery era. Okay, so here's just a couple of things that are really important to know.

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95% of teenagers say that they have been, will be, or plan to be on YouTube. Now, obviously some of those are power users, and others of those are just

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dabbling in it and looking up videos and stuff for their science fair projects.

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But the fact of the matter is, 95% of teenagers are on YouTube.

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Furthermore, according to a recent book by Mccrindle. And so it's called Meeting Gen Alpha. They say that Google number one search engine in the world is now being supplanted by Generation Alpha with, you guessed

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it, YouTube. Also, here's the beautiful thing about YouTube.

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I got to tell you, like, like I said, I've been creating content for this podcast for over two years and I will still sometimes get I also sometimes get comments I'll get referrals, I'll get people clicking links to

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videos that I've made even over a year ago. Right. We don't have that luxury. Oftentimes in churches we create something for the moment, and then that thing dies on our hard drive and we continue on.

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YouTube is masterful at promoting and allowing content to live on forever. Content creation,

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marketing specialists, they call it evergreen content. If you want to know the type of content that teenagers, Gen Alpha, Gen Z, young people in your church are searching, you can use a keyword tool like vid IQ. In fact, I have a link down below if you want to give it a shot and a trial on using it.

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And you can do some research. Like what are teenagers asking? And then you go answer those questions. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Like like you should start there always. As you're planning a sermon series, right? Get some keyword research. What are people looking up online? What are the the big questions to life that they're asking. And then have that and then develop a sermon series.

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And by the way, if you develop your sermon series based off that keyword research is also going to make a fantastic YouTube video and fantastic YouTube

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playlist.

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All right. Question number three. What is your content schedule and what is your capturing of that content schedule?

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So according to a website video, 90% of the internet's traffic today and moving on is short form discovery based vertical video, TikTok style, real style YouTube short style videos.

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In fact, I have a playlist linked right here on the content that I am creating, not only for my students, but with my students. It's my easy and effective social media playlist. It is the four different

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social media types that not only do I have students capturing, but also that I have students editing and helping create that final piece form of content.

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So my schedule is I post two days a

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week, I'm sorry, two times a day, five days a week. So ten different pieces of content. Let me walk through it with you. So in my playlist linked back up here that I said just a second ago my easy and effective playlist. We do four different game style videos, so we do drafts, we do seven questions, we do man on the Street and we do transition and invite style videos.

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Go to that playlist to check out the full, detailed, in-depth thing along with some free templates and downloads. And then an additional piece that we do is a Stay or scroll devotional style video. So that's five different videos, one of each of those that I post every single week. Okay. And I just kind of sprinkle them throughout the pieces of my content calendar that are a little bit like stronger.

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Again, short form vertical based video is three teaching clips, and those teaching clips come as clips off of our long form teaching content. Now I'm a youth pastor. We don't have live streaming capabilities, nor do we capture our videos live in our auditorium or in our worship space. So we actually sit down direct to camera and pre-filled. More messages made for YouTube with that vid IQ research indicator.

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And we make those videos hopefully answering teenagers questions, creating evergreen content, and also playlists and sermon series that kids are asking for. And then they can go back to in the future when they're struggling with or have big questions about life, faith, God, whatever the case may be. And so that just that piece of content, we drop a different video every single week.

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It lines up just when we preach a sermon. Right? So if you're preaching a sermon this Wednesday night, you're preaching a sermon the Sunday night. Put that on video posted to YouTube. But off that YouTube video, three short form clips I use opus. I there's a link down below if you want to try out Opus Clip. It's a fantastic AI sermon short generator.

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I use it every single week in my ministry, so that's five different pieces of, easy and effective content off that playlist through different pieces of social content, using opus to clip them up. And then I got two more other pieces of content. One is our, meme Monday style video. Not video. I'm sorry meme Monday style post.

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It's just about the only, non video post that I do. Not that I'm against non video post, but don't forget I'm a busy youth pastor and so I got this strategy sort of locked in. And so I don't have a lot of time to go back to the drawing board. And I got students and volunteers help them kind of keep it afloat.

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And so we'll reiterate and rehydrate when we need to. But for right now, this has been working for us. And then the 10th final piece of content is, anytime we meet, I get my phone out. I create little like 5 to 8 second clips, vertical video. I take it

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into something like a TikTok. I click that auto cut button and boom!

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I then have a recap video for anytime we meet Sunday morning. Wednesday night I typically do Wednesday night. Now, like I said, my capturing is during the week. Me and anyone else on our team is going

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to be preaching. We sit down, we pre film all of our series. Like if we do like a four part series, we film all four of those in one day.

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One shot off teleprompter. All the things link down below is my studio guide. It has all the links to all the gear that we use. If you want to use a teleprompter or if you want to use, get a tripod, different lighting, all that type of stuff, check that out. So that's when we do those. And then on Wednesday nights when our youth ministry is going on

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before and after, we have a social challenge that's happening every single Wednesday night.

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Students know about it. They seek it out. They want to know when and where is the social challenge happening. So two of those videos,

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Jason, seven questions. Those take place inside, behind a locked door.

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And I walked over a closed door of our studio to come up with soundproofing and all those things run by volunteers and very few leaders.

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And then, our other two videos are transition videos and man on the Street style videos. And so that's us being out and around in our building, in our space. So

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it's a little bit more visible. And it also helps students sort of be gravitated towards and drawn to what we're doing here on social media. And as far as editing goes, opus II takes care of my editing for my message clips.

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I do the auto cut one on one on, Wednesday nights. I do that, like right before I start my car and get in to go home. And then the last one I have students

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come in early, like early, early on Wednesday night. They're homeschool students, which are two of them. Fantastic. And around 2:00, 3:00 or so, submissions start till about six.

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And so they're in there for 2 or 3 hours, editing videos and, you know, like we give them, you know,

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some of them like free retreats or special incentives or we let them stay after and like eat at the leader lunch, you know, eat a leader lunch that we have or whatever. But, mostly they're just doing it because they like it.

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They're fun doing it, and it's a good time. All right. Next question.

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How do you edit videos? Well, I just told you, like, I got students that are helping me, carry that load. I use some I but like the actual platform that I use is my preference is

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Adobe Premiere Pro. It is the most expensive of all the options.

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Final Cut Pro is another option. You can check that out if you're interested, or

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DaVinci resolve, both of which are cheaper than Adobe Premiere Pro, primarily because Adobe Premiere Pro has a monthly subscription cost associated with it. However, what I learned, churches have paid for it for me for now. And I mean, I, you know, wish I could do something new, do something cheaper, but I don't have the bandwidth to to learn something cheaper.

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But there are cheaper options out there. You can of course you something like iMovie or Movie Maker on your windows and

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cap cut actually has a fantastic editing platform. You can do quite a bit with it and you're going to look pretty professional. You can do that, obviously off of your film, but you can also do it off of like, just a

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web editor.

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And, I believe that they're, like premium or pro feature fee is not too difficult to, figure out and or not to not not too expensive. Not too high barrier to entry. So if that's something you're interested, go ahead and check out cap cut. All right.

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Last question I have here from those of you, thank you so much for submitting them via our Patreon community members.

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Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. Again, if you're interested, check that out down below. Link in the show notes. Question is, if you are consulting me, what order would you start with? Doing something starting from nothing. We have all the in-person, nothing digital. Well, here's what I would do. First of all,

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make sure your website is up to date.

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Second of all, then I would start creating this short form vertical, videos and I would start with three per week. Right. So some sort of recap video, if you can't do a clip of your message, just do a selfie style talking head recap style video of it, right. If you do have like the long form footage of it, drop it into opus clip and try, you know, get a clip spit out.

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Second video I would do is I would do some sort of educationally based, spirit promoting spiritual practice sort of video. Okay. What I mean by that is like, you can have, a video off your camera, literally any video. One time I filmed a video of a turtle walking across the street in my neighborhood. It can be that simple.

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You can do text on screen. Three things the Bible says about prayer. 1 to 3. Right? That I'll. And you can do that in any editor. You can use it in the, YouTube shorts that are the TikTok editor, the reels editor. You can bring it into something like cap cut and create it, export it and post it all those different places.

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But start creating those different types of content. And the last one is how to do some sort of fun thing, some sort of social challenge esque thing. Dress seven questions. And if those are too heavy on the edit side, which they are a little bit heavier on the edit side, they don't have to be, but they can be do man on the street, man, get a microphone, buy a cheap one.

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Again. I got some links down on my studio. Episode link down below. Buy some cheap mics and walk around and interview students in your space. Right? Like if I was doing this next week. All right, let's pretend you're watching this live end of 2024 and you come back in January. I'd walk around with a microphone.

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You or a student.

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Okay. Off of any camera? Your camera, their camera doesn't matter. Get those two little USB microphones again, link down below, grab those and then walk around. Be like, hey, what's your New Year's resolution this year? And then ask them or give them a microphone and you can do something even funny with it. Like me and a former resident of mine, Caleb, shout out to Caleb Flywheel, my ETA.

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We put our little mikes, clipped them on to like, spoons, and then we just held spoons so you can walk around with spoons if you want to, like, have some sort

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of, like, handle thing to hold. Right. But, you know, like, what's your New Year's resolution? The other person's holding it and they answer and either they have one or they don't.

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Or have you broken your New Year's resolution yet. And you ask them, and if you get like 8 or 10 of those people answering those questions, then you drop those in somewhere, either on your phone, you can edit something like capture or bring them in something even more powerful, like Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve. Whatever your editor of Choices and edit that down, post it, keep them less than 60s and you're off to the races

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and the eye on the prize.

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Okay, when I'm starting with you, the eye on the prize is to get long form videos up to YouTube. Okay, you don't have to do two times a day, five days a week like I do. You do you? I do want you to be regular, and I do want you to start getting your long form pieces of content to YouTube.

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And that's where I come in, because I can offer you

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coaching where I'll teach you how to do it, or my communications done for you, or I'll actually do it for you. You film it, send it to me, I'll edit it. We can talk about price. We'll get to it. Both of those are linked down below in the description.

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But here on

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screen is the definitive social media guide for churches and youth ministries in 2025. I love for you to check that video out. If you're watching here on YouTube, just go ahead and tap that screen. But for the rest of you, I hope you had a merry Christmas. If you're watching this live, no matter when you're watching it.

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Thank you to all my Patreon supporters. Appreciate you guys. It should be having some merch sent your way. Those of you who signed up before December 2nd, don't forget and as always my friends to stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Church Social Media Explained
02:05 What is Hybrid Ministry?
05:55 Why Hybrid Ministry?
08:34 What is your content creation and capturing schedule?
14:04 How do you edit your videos?
15:17 If I consulted with you, how would you recommend I get started?

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TRANSCRIPT
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Pastor, youth pastor, church

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communications person. Are you struggling

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to figure out digital ministry?

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Well, here's the deal.

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I created this video so that you can stop googling church social media tips.

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And in fact, I created this video so that you don't have to hire me or anybody else.

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I'm going to show you and give you what it takes to be able to create a thriving online and digital hybrid presence.

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Now, here's the thing. I've been doing this podcast for

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over two years now, and in my over two year journey of this podcast and hybrid ministry, I am helping churches do online well. But I'm also helping churches maintain their in-person presence and find that intersection, which is always the goal as we're trying to create

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a church so that it matches and mirrors people where they are.

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And that intersection is what I like to call hybrid right there in the middle. And so we're

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going to dive into some of the frequently asked questions here on the Hybrid Ministry show as we round out 2024 and set our sights to 2025.

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Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you not haven't had a chance to meet you.

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My name is Nicholas, and while I've been doing this podcast for two and a half years, I've been doing ministry for 14 years. And, my journey all along the way has led me towards this hybrid

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sort of ministry. But in this episode, we are going to tackle some of the frequently asked questions that I've gotten from people all across the internet.

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Different groups have been in cohorts. I've run workshops, so I've led asking questions like, what

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is hybrid ministry? Why is it even important? What is your content schedule? What's your capturing schedule? How do you edit the videos? What is, what would you consult me to do if I was just getting started? And

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we are going to walk through all of those things.

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And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget there are chapters down below at the bottom of the screen so that you can jump around to the question that means the most to you. Welcome to Hybrid Ministry show.

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Question number one. We alluded to it in the intro, but what is hybrid ministry? My favorite analogy, and this is actually some of the stuff that we're exploring over on my brand new Patreon

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page.

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And some of these questions actually came from some of our brand new Patreon members. Shout out to Jesse. Johnson. Love having you over here. But, some of these questions, are like, what is hybrid ministry? Okay. So some of the questions are like, why? What's the purpose of this? What even is it? So it's important.

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Let's get a baseline okay. Again, chapters at the bottom. If you already know this, jump ahead. But hybrid ministry is intersecting your in-person and your digital, right. We all know in Covid we had digital church only. And we know that we hated it. Struggle with it, didn't know how to engage students. Well, we missed the in-person. And so when, restrictions are lifted, we all came back to in-person.

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And we miss it. We miss community. We miss friendship. We miss praying with one another. We missed sharing meals together,

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but we did a lot of good ministry over here too. Digitally. Right. And so, we kind of got these two buckets here. You got online only and you got in-person only. Let's let's examine

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what each of those are good for.

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My opinion online is a fantastic content delivery system. So emails, information announcements but also content sermons, podcasts, long form teaching courses, things like that. What is in-person good for

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that? Online struggles with real, authentic community. Like you. You can have a version of community

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because of in-person friendships through like a means like texting or even like chats and stuff like that.

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But I mean real in-person community, like, we all kind of hunger for it long for. And you, some people like, are in the metaverse and and that's satisfying that sort of age. They're friends with people from a distance. But but a lot of ways like real community life on life, sharing meals together, carrying one another's burdens, prayer requests, honestly, everything in like a shepherding, sort of like

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small group space.

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But if we look at a typical Sunday morning sermon, most of it is what we can accomplish with online. And thus in lies the inherent tension. Because everything we can do on a Sunday morning can be easily replicable. And frankly, it's even a little bit more attractive, especially to people like Gen, Gen Z, millennials, even Gen Alpha to consume content, sermons and church services online.

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But what younger generations are craving and the church has to figure out how to offer it in a way that, either takes the place of Sunday morning or as an attractive alternative to what's going on Sunday morning. Is that real, deep, authentic life on life, biblical community

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and that intersection of where you're online, which you should have online.

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So if you if you're a mostly in-person church hybrid ministry for you is adding in online so that you can have a more robust experience of your church, if you're an online

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only church, which are very few and far between, you should figure out how to add some more in-person type elements so that we can intersect between the two online, online, in-person intersects at that hybrid ministry spot.

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I liken it to

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Home Depot. Okay, so I can go buy something on Home Depot website completely online experience, or I can go browse the aisles completely in-person experience. But that hybrid moment happens when I pull up my phone and I look on the app and it tells me exactly where I can find that boat, exactly what aisle and exactly what bay I'm in person, but I'm experiencing it through the app digitally, and thus it creates that sort of hybrid moment.

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So if you're not, again, already over with us on Patreon, I would love to invite you because that's what we're doing. We're answering how I take my in-person services, and I'm sprinkling in hybrid, and I'm just literally walking you through what I'm doing on a week by week basis. Question number two

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why? Like, why all this digital content?

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Why social media? Why YouTube? Why why why? Well, link down below is my 100% free

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hybrid ministry strategy guide. I have been offering this now for over a year and it's gone

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through a couple of rebrands, but the majority of what I've created in that has remained the same because social media, around the, pandemic time has actually shifted the way that it's been done.

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Right? We were previously in what was known

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as the Social Graph era, and now we're in what's called the Discovery era. Okay, so here's just a couple of things that are really important to know.

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95% of teenagers say that they have been, will be, or plan to be on YouTube. Now, obviously some of those are power users, and others of those are just

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dabbling in it and looking up videos and stuff for their science fair projects.

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But the fact of the matter is, 95% of teenagers are on YouTube.

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Furthermore, according to a recent book by Mccrindle. And so it's called Meeting Gen Alpha. They say that Google number one search engine in the world is now being supplanted by Generation Alpha with, you guessed

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it, YouTube. Also, here's the beautiful thing about YouTube.

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I got to tell you, like, like I said, I've been creating content for this podcast for over two years and I will still sometimes get I also sometimes get comments I'll get referrals, I'll get people clicking links to

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videos that I've made even over a year ago. Right. We don't have that luxury. Oftentimes in churches we create something for the moment, and then that thing dies on our hard drive and we continue on.

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YouTube is masterful at promoting and allowing content to live on forever. Content creation,

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marketing specialists, they call it evergreen content. If you want to know the type of content that teenagers, Gen Alpha, Gen Z, young people in your church are searching, you can use a keyword tool like vid IQ. In fact, I have a link down below if you want to give it a shot and a trial on using it.

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And you can do some research. Like what are teenagers asking? And then you go answer those questions. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Like like you should start there always. As you're planning a sermon series, right? Get some keyword research. What are people looking up online? What are the the big questions to life that they're asking. And then have that and then develop a sermon series.

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And by the way, if you develop your sermon series based off that keyword research is also going to make a fantastic YouTube video and fantastic YouTube

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playlist.

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All right. Question number three. What is your content schedule and what is your capturing of that content schedule?

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So according to a website video, 90% of the internet's traffic today and moving on is short form discovery based vertical video, TikTok style, real style YouTube short style videos.

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In fact, I have a playlist linked right here on the content that I am creating, not only for my students, but with my students. It's my easy and effective social media playlist. It is the four different

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social media types that not only do I have students capturing, but also that I have students editing and helping create that final piece form of content.

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So my schedule is I post two days a

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week, I'm sorry, two times a day, five days a week. So ten different pieces of content. Let me walk through it with you. So in my playlist linked back up here that I said just a second ago my easy and effective playlist. We do four different game style videos, so we do drafts, we do seven questions, we do man on the Street and we do transition and invite style videos.

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Go to that playlist to check out the full, detailed, in-depth thing along with some free templates and downloads. And then an additional piece that we do is a Stay or scroll devotional style video. So that's five different videos, one of each of those that I post every single week. Okay. And I just kind of sprinkle them throughout the pieces of my content calendar that are a little bit like stronger.

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Again, short form vertical based video is three teaching clips, and those teaching clips come as clips off of our long form teaching content. Now I'm a youth pastor. We don't have live streaming capabilities, nor do we capture our videos live in our auditorium or in our worship space. So we actually sit down direct to camera and pre-filled. More messages made for YouTube with that vid IQ research indicator.

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And we make those videos hopefully answering teenagers questions, creating evergreen content, and also playlists and sermon series that kids are asking for. And then they can go back to in the future when they're struggling with or have big questions about life, faith, God, whatever the case may be. And so that just that piece of content, we drop a different video every single week.

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It lines up just when we preach a sermon. Right? So if you're preaching a sermon this Wednesday night, you're preaching a sermon the Sunday night. Put that on video posted to YouTube. But off that YouTube video, three short form clips I use opus. I there's a link down below if you want to try out Opus Clip. It's a fantastic AI sermon short generator.

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I use it every single week in my ministry, so that's five different pieces of, easy and effective content off that playlist through different pieces of social content, using opus to clip them up. And then I got two more other pieces of content. One is our, meme Monday style video. Not video. I'm sorry meme Monday style post.

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It's just about the only, non video post that I do. Not that I'm against non video post, but don't forget I'm a busy youth pastor and so I got this strategy sort of locked in. And so I don't have a lot of time to go back to the drawing board. And I got students and volunteers help them kind of keep it afloat.

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And so we'll reiterate and rehydrate when we need to. But for right now, this has been working for us. And then the 10th final piece of content is, anytime we meet, I get my phone out. I create little like 5 to 8 second clips, vertical video. I take it

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into something like a TikTok. I click that auto cut button and boom!

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I then have a recap video for anytime we meet Sunday morning. Wednesday night I typically do Wednesday night. Now, like I said, my capturing is during the week. Me and anyone else on our team is going

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to be preaching. We sit down, we pre film all of our series. Like if we do like a four part series, we film all four of those in one day.

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One shot off teleprompter. All the things link down below is my studio guide. It has all the links to all the gear that we use. If you want to use a teleprompter or if you want to use, get a tripod, different lighting, all that type of stuff, check that out. So that's when we do those. And then on Wednesday nights when our youth ministry is going on

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before and after, we have a social challenge that's happening every single Wednesday night.

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Students know about it. They seek it out. They want to know when and where is the social challenge happening. So two of those videos,

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Jason, seven questions. Those take place inside, behind a locked door.

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And I walked over a closed door of our studio to come up with soundproofing and all those things run by volunteers and very few leaders.

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And then, our other two videos are transition videos and man on the Street style videos. And so that's us being out and around in our building, in our space. So

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it's a little bit more visible. And it also helps students sort of be gravitated towards and drawn to what we're doing here on social media. And as far as editing goes, opus II takes care of my editing for my message clips.

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I do the auto cut one on one on, Wednesday nights. I do that, like right before I start my car and get in to go home. And then the last one I have students

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come in early, like early, early on Wednesday night. They're homeschool students, which are two of them. Fantastic. And around 2:00, 3:00 or so, submissions start till about six.

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And so they're in there for 2 or 3 hours, editing videos and, you know, like we give them, you know,

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some of them like free retreats or special incentives or we let them stay after and like eat at the leader lunch, you know, eat a leader lunch that we have or whatever. But, mostly they're just doing it because they like it.

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They're fun doing it, and it's a good time. All right. Next question.

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How do you edit videos? Well, I just told you, like, I got students that are helping me, carry that load. I use some I but like the actual platform that I use is my preference is

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Adobe Premiere Pro. It is the most expensive of all the options.

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Final Cut Pro is another option. You can check that out if you're interested, or

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DaVinci resolve, both of which are cheaper than Adobe Premiere Pro, primarily because Adobe Premiere Pro has a monthly subscription cost associated with it. However, what I learned, churches have paid for it for me for now. And I mean, I, you know, wish I could do something new, do something cheaper, but I don't have the bandwidth to to learn something cheaper.

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But there are cheaper options out there. You can of course you something like iMovie or Movie Maker on your windows and

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cap cut actually has a fantastic editing platform. You can do quite a bit with it and you're going to look pretty professional. You can do that, obviously off of your film, but you can also do it off of like, just a

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web editor.

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And, I believe that they're, like premium or pro feature fee is not too difficult to, figure out and or not to not not too expensive. Not too high barrier to entry. So if that's something you're interested, go ahead and check out cap cut. All right.

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Last question I have here from those of you, thank you so much for submitting them via our Patreon community members.

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Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. Again, if you're interested, check that out down below. Link in the show notes. Question is, if you are consulting me, what order would you start with? Doing something starting from nothing. We have all the in-person, nothing digital. Well, here's what I would do. First of all,

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make sure your website is up to date.

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Second of all, then I would start creating this short form vertical, videos and I would start with three per week. Right. So some sort of recap video, if you can't do a clip of your message, just do a selfie style talking head recap style video of it, right. If you do have like the long form footage of it, drop it into opus clip and try, you know, get a clip spit out.

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Second video I would do is I would do some sort of educationally based, spirit promoting spiritual practice sort of video. Okay. What I mean by that is like, you can have, a video off your camera, literally any video. One time I filmed a video of a turtle walking across the street in my neighborhood. It can be that simple.

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You can do text on screen. Three things the Bible says about prayer. 1 to 3. Right? That I'll. And you can do that in any editor. You can use it in the, YouTube shorts that are the TikTok editor, the reels editor. You can bring it into something like cap cut and create it, export it and post it all those different places.

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But start creating those different types of content. And the last one is how to do some sort of fun thing, some sort of social challenge esque thing. Dress seven questions. And if those are too heavy on the edit side, which they are a little bit heavier on the edit side, they don't have to be, but they can be do man on the street, man, get a microphone, buy a cheap one.

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Again. I got some links down on my studio. Episode link down below. Buy some cheap mics and walk around and interview students in your space. Right? Like if I was doing this next week. All right, let's pretend you're watching this live end of 2024 and you come back in January. I'd walk around with a microphone.

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You or a student.

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Okay. Off of any camera? Your camera, their camera doesn't matter. Get those two little USB microphones again, link down below, grab those and then walk around. Be like, hey, what's your New Year's resolution this year? And then ask them or give them a microphone and you can do something even funny with it. Like me and a former resident of mine, Caleb, shout out to Caleb Flywheel, my ETA.

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We put our little mikes, clipped them on to like, spoons, and then we just held spoons so you can walk around with spoons if you want to, like, have some sort

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of, like, handle thing to hold. Right. But, you know, like, what's your New Year's resolution? The other person's holding it and they answer and either they have one or they don't.

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Or have you broken your New Year's resolution yet. And you ask them, and if you get like 8 or 10 of those people answering those questions, then you drop those in somewhere, either on your phone, you can edit something like capture or bring them in something even more powerful, like Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, DaVinci resolve. Whatever your editor of Choices and edit that down, post it, keep them less than 60s and you're off to the races

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and the eye on the prize.

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Okay, when I'm starting with you, the eye on the prize is to get long form videos up to YouTube. Okay, you don't have to do two times a day, five days a week like I do. You do you? I do want you to be regular, and I do want you to start getting your long form pieces of content to YouTube.

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And that's where I come in, because I can offer you

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coaching where I'll teach you how to do it, or my communications done for you, or I'll actually do it for you. You film it, send it to me, I'll edit it. We can talk about price. We'll get to it. Both of those are linked down below in the description.

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But here on

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screen is the definitive social media guide for churches and youth ministries in 2025. I love for you to check that video out. If you're watching here on YouTube, just go ahead and tap that screen. But for the rest of you, I hope you had a merry Christmas. If you're watching this live, no matter when you're watching it.

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Thank you to all my Patreon supporters. Appreciate you guys. It should be having some merch sent your way. Those of you who signed up before December 2nd, don't forget and as always my friends to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 127: More than a Random Name Generator https://www.hybridministry.xyz/127 d3cbd103-9219-46ef-bfee-603836a855ef Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 127 More than a Random Name Generator full Nick Clason In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, discover how to create truly interactive sermons and programming using the Random Name Generator from Sidekick made by Download Youth Ministry to engage students like never before! Weโ€™ll explore practical ways to blend creativity with technology, making your youth ministry sermons more dynamic and memorable. 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And this is the fourth and final video, but this feature is the feature that when I saw this 00:00:16:59 - 00:00:23:59 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry feature rolled out at the Orange Conference and I believe it was 2016 when they 00:00:23:59 - 00:00:28:47 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry showed it to me, I instantly said, and then sign me up. 00:00:28:51 - 00:00:50:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What does it take? How much does it cost? Actually, I don't care. It doesn't matter. This is what I want. And this is the feature that sidekick still has rolled out to this day, in my personal opinion. It is my necklaces favorite feature, and it is one that I believe that you can and you should be using in your presentations. 00:00:50:28 - 00:01:07:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Whether you're a youth pastor, whether you're a college minister, whether you're an adult pastor, or whether, frankly, you're a senior pastor, it is the random name picker and random name generator. And in this video and in this episode, I want to share five of my favorite ways 00:01:07:23 - 00:01:11:46 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to creatively use the name picker. I'm going to drill deep down 00:01:11:46 - 00:01:16:51 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry into all of the features of how you can use it and utilize it, and what it has to offer. 00:01:16:57 - 00:01:24:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're watching here on YouTube, you're going to see a live demo and a live tutorial and a screen share of it. And don't forget, as always, there 00:01:24:01 - 00:01:35:31 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry are chapters down below at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the ones that make the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:01:35:36 - 00:01:47:54 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So way. Number one, that I love to use the random name generator because as you know, when you're at church, you don't know which of your youth group kids are going to show up on any given week. And 00:01:47:54 - 00:02:04:52 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so one of my favorite ways to use it is in our retreats or in our camps or within things that, that have a registration component to it, because, you know, every kid you're taking to camp, you should and you should definitely know that number because you better return with that many kids. 00:02:04:53 - 00:02:20:39 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Give me a like if you've ever worried that you lost a kid, a youth camp, and, either way, one of the things I like to do is when we have a big event and listen, what I'm about to explain is one of the things I'm going to start doing on my Patreon show. By the way, if you didn't know, we're launching a Patreon show. 00:02:20:39 - 00:02:45:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you're watching here on screen, you can see the slide. We are going to be offering bonus content, and that bonus content is going to drop once per week. And I'm very simply going to talk through all of the different ways that we are using and utilizing hybrid in our ministry, and I hope that as you sit in and as you listen, it helps you to get the creative juices going a little bit in your own brain and in your own ministry. 00:02:45:03 - 00:03:06:34 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as you pursue hybrid, not because it's cool and not because digital and all that stuff is important, but really we're taking our in-person and our digital and we're putting it together, intersecting in most cases, at students cell phones, which gives us an opportunity to impact and influence them beyond the one hour of programing that we have scheduled per week. 00:03:06:34 - 00:03:26:52 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that is what my Patreon is going to do, this bonus content. But when you have an event, if you have some sort of a check in system, which I know we do, I have our, church community builder, CBM, we have a, report that runs for anyone who's checked in within the last 24 hours. 00:03:26:57 - 00:03:29:54 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so what happens then is, basically 00:03:29:54 - 00:03:53:47 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry once an event has started, I can go into that report, I can download into an Excel sheet, so to speak, or like a dot CSV. I can know all the names of the students who are there. I don't have to guess about the kids who I think might be there, who I thought I saw, but I know for a fact they've checked in and then I can put their names into the random name generator, and then I can use that for raffle giveaways, prizes, and all sorts of things. 00:03:53:47 - 00:04:18:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so say that that spits out into an Excel sheet. You're looking here at an Excel sheet, and you can just highlight an entire cell. Copy. Copy that. Go over here to your name picker. Click edit. Click edit. Pick me. Go to your book editor Payson, and boom, just in case you also wanted their numbers as well. And so now we got all of the names in here. 00:04:18:32 - 00:04:42:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And and then when I go ahead and I get ready to roll this thing, you'll notice. Let me get this full screen here. If you're watching, pretend this is your projector, you're going to drag that window over to your projector. And then you are going to click present and you're good to go. And so now here I am, I want to play and I want to run this pick me game. 00:04:42:00 - 00:05:07:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, I'm going to turn it on to random. And we're going to get this thing rolling and I'm gonna see who's going to win. And it's Nikola to pitch the earbud. Believer himself. And so when you're running it right, you can do things like hide last item. So if I don't want to pitch to win, I can turn this on ahead of time so that it doesn't stop on him again, even though it did. 00:05:07:27 - 00:05:27:33 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But now he's gone and now I'm going to get a new winner. Jacob Jalen Williams himself. Right. Here's the beautiful thing. If you don't trust your tech person, you can do this from your phone. You can do this remotely from an iPad. Or you can do this remotely from even a whole different computer. And you don't even have to be on the same network as that computer. 00:05:27:37 - 00:05:28:42 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're logged into sidekick 00:05:28:42 - 00:05:44:50 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on your in your tech booth, and if you're logged in to sidekick from your phone or whatever device, you can run it from both. We are all in on sidekick in fact. Link down below if you want to see our setup of how we do it. To jump back and forth between pro presenter and sidekick, we haven't made the shift to be 00:05:44:50 - 00:05:47:41 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry all in with worship because that's a whole different department. 00:05:47:46 - 00:06:02:42 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't call the shots. If I did, we would be all in on sidekick, but since we're not, we have a video switcher. And if you want to be able to bounce back and forth between the two so that you can have the elements of purpose that you like, but all the interactive features of sidekick that you like, check that out down below. 00:06:02:42 - 00:06:29:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, idea number two, one that I really like is rather than names. We've actually done this before in this presentation, and I'm going to show you how to set it up. I did like a series or a message on labels. And so I actually, what I did was, I think I have it in here. I brought in, like, a label, like a hello, my name is type of label, and I just got it loaded. 00:06:29:40 - 00:06:56:34 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And very simply, when it was sitting there on screen and I was teaching, I used that teaching moment sort of as an opportunity to, to to cycle through and filter through some of the different types of labels that we face or that we think we face or that we see or that we feel or that we might even struggle with sometimes, as, you know, people, as teenagers, as followers of Jesus. 00:06:56:39 - 00:07:22:56 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you don't have to just let this be like a random name picker thing. Like you can also use and utilize this as an opportunity, within your teaching, within your teaching components. And so as you see here on screen, I have the hello, my name is name Tag right here. And then they are just simply filtering through, different types of labels that you or that students might struggle with. 00:07:22:56 - 00:07:37:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's an opportunity then to go ahead and and use that as a part of your teaching point. Now my third favorite way to go ahead and use the random name generator is, to use a thing called a Volun told 00:07:37:08 - 00:07:50:43 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry generator. And we talked about this a little bit in the, we'll, video in the last video about how you can make a definitive or declarative statement, like the person with the tallest socks, that's only one person. 00:07:50:45 - 00:08:10:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So the person with the tallest socks in your room, they come up in place. So if you don't have a set up or if you don't have check in, but you still want to use this kind of Volun told generator sort of thing, you can put generic statements about students, and then you can use that to get people to come on up as contestants for games and stuff like that. 00:08:10:08 - 00:08:29:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And again, it's just a great way to not have to do the who wants to play? And you're like, how did I pick that kid or not? Like the the random name generator is king and the random name generator decides. And what's cool, even in its customization, right, is that you can create different sound effects, right? So like, there is like a thumbs up sound effect. 00:08:29:16 - 00:08:48:58 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There is a, kind of shrugging like middle of the road sound effect. And then there's like a party horn sound effect. So if you were playing this and you had the sort of like, like maybe a bad prize or something, you weren't so sure about that you didn't want, this is what the thumbs down sound effect sounds like. 00:08:49:02 - 00:09:06:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That. But, yeah, it's a bummer. No, no one wants is smudging. Like, that's how Thunder fans kind of feel right now anyway. But then you go ahead and you're like that. This guy's kind of mid tier. We're not not really sure if we have an, opinion yet of him or not. Really sure if winning this thing in our youth ministry, we really have an opinion of it. 00:09:06:04 - 00:09:27:42 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yet Dugas. Yeah, okay. Whatever. You know, but then, like, you win something great or like it's a grand prize or something that people really actually want. I mean, he's a front runner for MVP. Let's just be honest. He's outpacing Luke does is the Thunder are the number one seed in the West. And they are the juggernaut that everyone should be afraid of. 00:09:27:42 - 00:09:45:45 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's led by this guy. And so you should you should have that sound. Hey give me a like if you're a, Thunder fan and please don't unsubscribe if you, do you happen to be a mavericks fan? Because we are here trying to make this hybrid ministry thing. We're trying to make it helpful to you. In fact, right here on screen. 00:09:45:45 - 00:10:04:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Don't forget Code Hybrid Ministry ten. If you've never used you. I am. Or if you've never signed up for anything with do I am before for 10% off for a year of premium, Premium or Premium Plus? You can check out the pricing link down below. We also offer custom coaching. It's my free strategy guide. Go ahead and scan that QR code, check out our Patreon. 00:10:04:02 - 00:10:25:49 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And hey, while you're here, go ahead and vote on which coffee shop is the best. My fourth idiom that I really like to do is kind of like the kind of like the the name tag one that I showed you a minute ago. So instead of it, I mean, like a teaching point, a lot of times I will create a welcome slide, right? 00:10:25:49 - 00:10:41:58 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And these slides, just like all the other ones, they're, they're highly adaptable. So you can put any slides you want. You can, add an image, you can make a color, you can add a video background from something from YouTube. Even so like we've used this video before in 00:10:41:58 - 00:10:48:42 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry previous videos here, even on this playlist. And so if you wanted it to be a video one, you could embed this YouTube video right here. 00:10:48:47 - 00:11:09:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or you could add one of these videos from a bank of other videos that you have used before using the past. But whatever the case might be, I'll do this where like, we have like, a leader lunch. And so people have volun, or have RSVP ahead of time. And so I will, put all of their names into the generator and I will say, leader, lunch welcome. 00:11:09:10 - 00:11:27:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry With an arrow pointing to where their name is going to be here on People Picker and all the names are just filtering through. And then we may use that as a giveaway sort of feature in the, in the, you know, in the background or whatever, or not. We'll see. But those are sort of all just kind of different ways and different ideas that I like to use the name picker. 00:11:27:14 - 00:11:47:40 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then of course, number five, I'm going to share on my Patreon page. And don't forget, this is the last time that I'm going to do this. To those of you listening to the regular podcast or on YouTube, but I just, I, I'm so, so stoked and I'm so pumped about our Patreon because it is a dollar a week, $4 a month. 00:11:47:44 - 00:12:05:54 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I think it's less than the cost of a cup of coffee. But I want to get coffee with you. I want to sit down. I want to chat. Youth ministry. I want to chat. Creativity. I want to chat. How to make your programing more engaging? Because Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they want a more custom and personalized approach. 00:12:05:54 - 00:12:33:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I believe that sidekick not only in this beta version, but also in the future. Rolling out has the tools that it takes to do that. I'm challenging myself to use sidekick every single time we're in the room with our students, and I want to encourage you to try and lean into your creativity and do the same. And so I know when I hear a brainstorm that's helpful for me to just listen to someone else and then beg and borrow and steal and tweak and adapt and use different ideas. 00:12:33:14 - 00:12:56:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's why I want my Patreon to be is just a place for you guys to get that weekly sort of bonus content, along with, as you see here, on screen, exclusive merch and exclusive sticker for everyone who signs up before the month of December. December 2nd, they'll be yours. I'll mail it to you. You can help me choose some show and segment topics, and also some shout outs special for those over there on my Patreon page. 00:12:56:08 - 00:13:18:37 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But that number five idea that's over there going to be in this week's Patreon will drop on Monday of this week. So once again, my friends so excited that you here. Thank you for diving in deep with sidekick. 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00:00 The Most Personal Element of Sidekick to Date
01:34 #1 Creative Name Generator Idea
04:27 Operating "Pick Me"
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07:28 #3 Creative Name Generator Idea
08:19 Different Sound Effect Options
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
As we've been exploring more engaging sermons through your presentations and specifically your presentation software, we're talking about sidekick in the play, this link right

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here. And this is the fourth and final video, but this feature is the feature that when I saw this

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feature rolled out at the Orange Conference and I believe it was 2016 when they

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showed it to me, I instantly said, and then sign me up.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What does it take? How much does it cost? Actually, I don't care. It doesn't matter. This is what I want. And this is the feature that sidekick still has rolled out to this day, in my personal opinion. It is my necklaces favorite feature, and it is one that I believe that you can and you should be using in your presentations.

00:00:50:28 - 00:01:07:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Whether you're a youth pastor, whether you're a college minister, whether you're an adult pastor, or whether, frankly, you're a senior pastor, it is the random name picker and random name generator. And in this video and in this episode, I want to share five of my favorite ways

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to creatively use the name picker. I'm going to drill deep down

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into all of the features of how you can use it and utilize it, and what it has to offer.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're watching here on YouTube, you're going to see a live demo and a live tutorial and a screen share of it. And don't forget, as always, there

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are chapters down below at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the ones that make the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So way. Number one, that I love to use the random name generator because as you know, when you're at church, you don't know which of your youth group kids are going to show up on any given week. And

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
so one of my favorite ways to use it is in our retreats or in our camps or within things that, that have a registration component to it, because, you know, every kid you're taking to camp, you should and you should definitely know that number because you better return with that many kids.

00:02:04:53 - 00:02:20:39
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like if you've ever worried that you lost a kid, a youth camp, and, either way, one of the things I like to do is when we have a big event and listen, what I'm about to explain is one of the things I'm going to start doing on my Patreon show. By the way, if you didn't know, we're launching a Patreon show.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're watching here on screen, you can see the slide. We are going to be offering bonus content, and that bonus content is going to drop once per week. And I'm very simply going to talk through all of the different ways that we are using and utilizing hybrid in our ministry, and I hope that as you sit in and as you listen, it helps you to get the creative juices going a little bit in your own brain and in your own ministry.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as you pursue hybrid, not because it's cool and not because digital and all that stuff is important, but really we're taking our in-person and our digital and we're putting it together, intersecting in most cases, at students cell phones, which gives us an opportunity to impact and influence them beyond the one hour of programing that we have scheduled per week.

00:03:06:34 - 00:03:26:52
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that is what my Patreon is going to do, this bonus content. But when you have an event, if you have some sort of a check in system, which I know we do, I have our, church community builder, CBM, we have a, report that runs for anyone who's checked in within the last 24 hours.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so what happens then is, basically

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once an event has started, I can go into that report, I can download into an Excel sheet, so to speak, or like a dot CSV. I can know all the names of the students who are there. I don't have to guess about the kids who I think might be there, who I thought I saw, but I know for a fact they've checked in and then I can put their names into the random name generator, and then I can use that for raffle giveaways, prizes, and all sorts of things.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so say that that spits out into an Excel sheet. You're looking here at an Excel sheet, and you can just highlight an entire cell. Copy. Copy that. Go over here to your name picker. Click edit. Click edit. Pick me. Go to your book editor Payson, and boom, just in case you also wanted their numbers as well. And so now we got all of the names in here.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and then when I go ahead and I get ready to roll this thing, you'll notice. Let me get this full screen here. If you're watching, pretend this is your projector, you're going to drag that window over to your projector. And then you are going to click present and you're good to go. And so now here I am, I want to play and I want to run this pick me game.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I'm going to turn it on to random. And we're going to get this thing rolling and I'm gonna see who's going to win. And it's Nikola to pitch the earbud. Believer himself. And so when you're running it right, you can do things like hide last item. So if I don't want to pitch to win, I can turn this on ahead of time so that it doesn't stop on him again, even though it did.

00:05:07:27 - 00:05:27:33
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But now he's gone and now I'm going to get a new winner. Jacob Jalen Williams himself. Right. Here's the beautiful thing. If you don't trust your tech person, you can do this from your phone. You can do this remotely from an iPad. Or you can do this remotely from even a whole different computer. And you don't even have to be on the same network as that computer.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're logged into sidekick

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on your in your tech booth, and if you're logged in to sidekick from your phone or whatever device, you can run it from both. We are all in on sidekick in fact. Link down below if you want to see our setup of how we do it. To jump back and forth between pro presenter and sidekick, we haven't made the shift to be

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
all in with worship because that's a whole different department.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I don't call the shots. If I did, we would be all in on sidekick, but since we're not, we have a video switcher. And if you want to be able to bounce back and forth between the two so that you can have the elements of purpose that you like, but all the interactive features of sidekick that you like, check that out down below.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, idea number two, one that I really like is rather than names. We've actually done this before in this presentation, and I'm going to show you how to set it up. I did like a series or a message on labels. And so I actually, what I did was, I think I have it in here. I brought in, like, a label, like a hello, my name is type of label, and I just got it loaded.

00:06:29:40 - 00:06:56:34
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And very simply, when it was sitting there on screen and I was teaching, I used that teaching moment sort of as an opportunity to, to to cycle through and filter through some of the different types of labels that we face or that we think we face or that we see or that we feel or that we might even struggle with sometimes, as, you know, people, as teenagers, as followers of Jesus.

00:06:56:39 - 00:07:22:56
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you don't have to just let this be like a random name picker thing. Like you can also use and utilize this as an opportunity, within your teaching, within your teaching components. And so as you see here on screen, I have the hello, my name is name Tag right here. And then they are just simply filtering through, different types of labels that you or that students might struggle with.

00:07:22:56 - 00:07:37:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's an opportunity then to go ahead and and use that as a part of your teaching point. Now my third favorite way to go ahead and use the random name generator is, to use a thing called a Volun told

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
generator. And we talked about this a little bit in the, we'll, video in the last video about how you can make a definitive or declarative statement, like the person with the tallest socks, that's only one person.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So the person with the tallest socks in your room, they come up in place. So if you don't have a set up or if you don't have check in, but you still want to use this kind of Volun told generator sort of thing, you can put generic statements about students, and then you can use that to get people to come on up as contestants for games and stuff like that.

00:08:10:08 - 00:08:29:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And again, it's just a great way to not have to do the who wants to play? And you're like, how did I pick that kid or not? Like the the random name generator is king and the random name generator decides. And what's cool, even in its customization, right, is that you can create different sound effects, right? So like, there is like a thumbs up sound effect.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There is a, kind of shrugging like middle of the road sound effect. And then there's like a party horn sound effect. So if you were playing this and you had the sort of like, like maybe a bad prize or something, you weren't so sure about that you didn't want, this is what the thumbs down sound effect sounds like.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That. But, yeah, it's a bummer. No, no one wants is smudging. Like, that's how Thunder fans kind of feel right now anyway. But then you go ahead and you're like that. This guy's kind of mid tier. We're not not really sure if we have an, opinion yet of him or not. Really sure if winning this thing in our youth ministry, we really have an opinion of it.

00:09:06:04 - 00:09:27:42
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yet Dugas. Yeah, okay. Whatever. You know, but then, like, you win something great or like it's a grand prize or something that people really actually want. I mean, he's a front runner for MVP. Let's just be honest. He's outpacing Luke does is the Thunder are the number one seed in the West. And they are the juggernaut that everyone should be afraid of.

00:09:27:42 - 00:09:45:45
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it's led by this guy. And so you should you should have that sound. Hey give me a like if you're a, Thunder fan and please don't unsubscribe if you, do you happen to be a mavericks fan? Because we are here trying to make this hybrid ministry thing. We're trying to make it helpful to you. In fact, right here on screen.

00:09:45:45 - 00:10:04:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't forget Code Hybrid Ministry ten. If you've never used you. I am. Or if you've never signed up for anything with do I am before for 10% off for a year of premium, Premium or Premium Plus? You can check out the pricing link down below. We also offer custom coaching. It's my free strategy guide. Go ahead and scan that QR code, check out our Patreon.

00:10:04:02 - 00:10:25:49
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And hey, while you're here, go ahead and vote on which coffee shop is the best. My fourth idiom that I really like to do is kind of like the kind of like the the name tag one that I showed you a minute ago. So instead of it, I mean, like a teaching point, a lot of times I will create a welcome slide, right?

00:10:25:49 - 00:10:41:58
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And these slides, just like all the other ones, they're, they're highly adaptable. So you can put any slides you want. You can, add an image, you can make a color, you can add a video background from something from YouTube. Even so like we've used this video before in

00:10:41:58 - 00:10:48:42
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
previous videos here, even on this playlist. And so if you wanted it to be a video one, you could embed this YouTube video right here.

00:10:48:47 - 00:11:09:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or you could add one of these videos from a bank of other videos that you have used before using the past. But whatever the case might be, I'll do this where like, we have like, a leader lunch. And so people have volun, or have RSVP ahead of time. And so I will, put all of their names into the generator and I will say, leader, lunch welcome.

00:11:09:10 - 00:11:27:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
With an arrow pointing to where their name is going to be here on People Picker and all the names are just filtering through. And then we may use that as a giveaway sort of feature in the, in the, you know, in the background or whatever, or not. We'll see. But those are sort of all just kind of different ways and different ideas that I like to use the name picker.

00:11:27:14 - 00:11:47:40
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then of course, number five, I'm going to share on my Patreon page. And don't forget, this is the last time that I'm going to do this. To those of you listening to the regular podcast or on YouTube, but I just, I, I'm so, so stoked and I'm so pumped about our Patreon because it is a dollar a week, $4 a month.

00:11:47:44 - 00:12:05:54
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I think it's less than the cost of a cup of coffee. But I want to get coffee with you. I want to sit down. I want to chat. Youth ministry. I want to chat. Creativity. I want to chat. How to make your programing more engaging? Because Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they want a more custom and personalized approach.

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And I believe that sidekick not only in this beta version, but also in the future. Rolling out has the tools that it takes to do that. I'm challenging myself to use sidekick every single time we're in the room with our students, and I want to encourage you to try and lean into your creativity and do the same. And so I know when I hear a brainstorm that's helpful for me to just listen to someone else and then beg and borrow and steal and tweak and adapt and use different ideas.

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And so that's why I want my Patreon to be is just a place for you guys to get that weekly sort of bonus content, along with, as you see here, on screen, exclusive merch and exclusive sticker for everyone who signs up before the month of December. December 2nd, they'll be yours. I'll mail it to you. You can help me choose some show and segment topics, and also some shout outs special for those over there on my Patreon page.

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But that number five idea that's over there going to be in this week's Patreon will drop on Monday of this week. So once again, my friends so excited that you here. Thank you for diving in deep with sidekick. The next episode we are going to be hopping into all things Christmas, Christmas parties, holiday planning, and everything that you need to know to round out the year.

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01:34 #1 Creative Name Generator Idea
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07:28 #3 Creative Name Generator Idea
08:19 Different Sound Effect Options
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
As we've been exploring more engaging sermons through your presentations and specifically your presentation software, we're talking about sidekick in the play, this link right

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here. And this is the fourth and final video, but this feature is the feature that when I saw this

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feature rolled out at the Orange Conference and I believe it was 2016 when they

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showed it to me, I instantly said, and then sign me up.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What does it take? How much does it cost? Actually, I don't care. It doesn't matter. This is what I want. And this is the feature that sidekick still has rolled out to this day, in my personal opinion. It is my necklaces favorite feature, and it is one that I believe that you can and you should be using in your presentations.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Whether you're a youth pastor, whether you're a college minister, whether you're an adult pastor, or whether, frankly, you're a senior pastor, it is the random name picker and random name generator. And in this video and in this episode, I want to share five of my favorite ways

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to creatively use the name picker. I'm going to drill deep down

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into all of the features of how you can use it and utilize it, and what it has to offer.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're watching here on YouTube, you're going to see a live demo and a live tutorial and a screen share of it. And don't forget, as always, there

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
are chapters down below at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the ones that make the most sense to you. Welcome everyone to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So way. Number one, that I love to use the random name generator because as you know, when you're at church, you don't know which of your youth group kids are going to show up on any given week. And

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
so one of my favorite ways to use it is in our retreats or in our camps or within things that, that have a registration component to it, because, you know, every kid you're taking to camp, you should and you should definitely know that number because you better return with that many kids.

00:02:04:53 - 00:02:20:39
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Give me a like if you've ever worried that you lost a kid, a youth camp, and, either way, one of the things I like to do is when we have a big event and listen, what I'm about to explain is one of the things I'm going to start doing on my Patreon show. By the way, if you didn't know, we're launching a Patreon show.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you're watching here on screen, you can see the slide. We are going to be offering bonus content, and that bonus content is going to drop once per week. And I'm very simply going to talk through all of the different ways that we are using and utilizing hybrid in our ministry, and I hope that as you sit in and as you listen, it helps you to get the creative juices going a little bit in your own brain and in your own ministry.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as you pursue hybrid, not because it's cool and not because digital and all that stuff is important, but really we're taking our in-person and our digital and we're putting it together, intersecting in most cases, at students cell phones, which gives us an opportunity to impact and influence them beyond the one hour of programing that we have scheduled per week.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that is what my Patreon is going to do, this bonus content. But when you have an event, if you have some sort of a check in system, which I know we do, I have our, church community builder, CBM, we have a, report that runs for anyone who's checked in within the last 24 hours.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so what happens then is, basically

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once an event has started, I can go into that report, I can download into an Excel sheet, so to speak, or like a dot CSV. I can know all the names of the students who are there. I don't have to guess about the kids who I think might be there, who I thought I saw, but I know for a fact they've checked in and then I can put their names into the random name generator, and then I can use that for raffle giveaways, prizes, and all sorts of things.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so say that that spits out into an Excel sheet. You're looking here at an Excel sheet, and you can just highlight an entire cell. Copy. Copy that. Go over here to your name picker. Click edit. Click edit. Pick me. Go to your book editor Payson, and boom, just in case you also wanted their numbers as well. And so now we got all of the names in here.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and then when I go ahead and I get ready to roll this thing, you'll notice. Let me get this full screen here. If you're watching, pretend this is your projector, you're going to drag that window over to your projector. And then you are going to click present and you're good to go. And so now here I am, I want to play and I want to run this pick me game.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I'm going to turn it on to random. And we're going to get this thing rolling and I'm gonna see who's going to win. And it's Nikola to pitch the earbud. Believer himself. And so when you're running it right, you can do things like hide last item. So if I don't want to pitch to win, I can turn this on ahead of time so that it doesn't stop on him again, even though it did.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But now he's gone and now I'm going to get a new winner. Jacob Jalen Williams himself. Right. Here's the beautiful thing. If you don't trust your tech person, you can do this from your phone. You can do this remotely from an iPad. Or you can do this remotely from even a whole different computer. And you don't even have to be on the same network as that computer.

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You're logged into sidekick

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on your in your tech booth, and if you're logged in to sidekick from your phone or whatever device, you can run it from both. We are all in on sidekick in fact. Link down below if you want to see our setup of how we do it. To jump back and forth between pro presenter and sidekick, we haven't made the shift to be

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all in with worship because that's a whole different department.

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I don't call the shots. If I did, we would be all in on sidekick, but since we're not, we have a video switcher. And if you want to be able to bounce back and forth between the two so that you can have the elements of purpose that you like, but all the interactive features of sidekick that you like, check that out down below.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, idea number two, one that I really like is rather than names. We've actually done this before in this presentation, and I'm going to show you how to set it up. I did like a series or a message on labels. And so I actually, what I did was, I think I have it in here. I brought in, like, a label, like a hello, my name is type of label, and I just got it loaded.

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And very simply, when it was sitting there on screen and I was teaching, I used that teaching moment sort of as an opportunity to, to to cycle through and filter through some of the different types of labels that we face or that we think we face or that we see or that we feel or that we might even struggle with sometimes, as, you know, people, as teenagers, as followers of Jesus.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you don't have to just let this be like a random name picker thing. Like you can also use and utilize this as an opportunity, within your teaching, within your teaching components. And so as you see here on screen, I have the hello, my name is name Tag right here. And then they are just simply filtering through, different types of labels that you or that students might struggle with.

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And that's an opportunity then to go ahead and and use that as a part of your teaching point. Now my third favorite way to go ahead and use the random name generator is, to use a thing called a Volun told

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generator. And we talked about this a little bit in the, we'll, video in the last video about how you can make a definitive or declarative statement, like the person with the tallest socks, that's only one person.

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So the person with the tallest socks in your room, they come up in place. So if you don't have a set up or if you don't have check in, but you still want to use this kind of Volun told generator sort of thing, you can put generic statements about students, and then you can use that to get people to come on up as contestants for games and stuff like that.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And again, it's just a great way to not have to do the who wants to play? And you're like, how did I pick that kid or not? Like the the random name generator is king and the random name generator decides. And what's cool, even in its customization, right, is that you can create different sound effects, right? So like, there is like a thumbs up sound effect.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There is a, kind of shrugging like middle of the road sound effect. And then there's like a party horn sound effect. So if you were playing this and you had the sort of like, like maybe a bad prize or something, you weren't so sure about that you didn't want, this is what the thumbs down sound effect sounds like.

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That. But, yeah, it's a bummer. No, no one wants is smudging. Like, that's how Thunder fans kind of feel right now anyway. But then you go ahead and you're like that. This guy's kind of mid tier. We're not not really sure if we have an, opinion yet of him or not. Really sure if winning this thing in our youth ministry, we really have an opinion of it.

00:09:06:04 - 00:09:27:42
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yet Dugas. Yeah, okay. Whatever. You know, but then, like, you win something great or like it's a grand prize or something that people really actually want. I mean, he's a front runner for MVP. Let's just be honest. He's outpacing Luke does is the Thunder are the number one seed in the West. And they are the juggernaut that everyone should be afraid of.

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And it's led by this guy. And so you should you should have that sound. Hey give me a like if you're a, Thunder fan and please don't unsubscribe if you, do you happen to be a mavericks fan? Because we are here trying to make this hybrid ministry thing. We're trying to make it helpful to you. In fact, right here on screen.

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And hey, while you're here, go ahead and vote on which coffee shop is the best. My fourth idiom that I really like to do is kind of like the kind of like the the name tag one that I showed you a minute ago. So instead of it, I mean, like a teaching point, a lot of times I will create a welcome slide, right?

00:10:25:49 - 00:10:41:58
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And these slides, just like all the other ones, they're, they're highly adaptable. So you can put any slides you want. You can, add an image, you can make a color, you can add a video background from something from YouTube. Even so like we've used this video before in

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previous videos here, even on this playlist. And so if you wanted it to be a video one, you could embed this YouTube video right here.

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Or you could add one of these videos from a bank of other videos that you have used before using the past. But whatever the case might be, I'll do this where like, we have like, a leader lunch. And so people have volun, or have RSVP ahead of time. And so I will, put all of their names into the generator and I will say, leader, lunch welcome.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
With an arrow pointing to where their name is going to be here on People Picker and all the names are just filtering through. And then we may use that as a giveaway sort of feature in the, in the, you know, in the background or whatever, or not. We'll see. But those are sort of all just kind of different ways and different ideas that I like to use the name picker.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then of course, number five, I'm going to share on my Patreon page. And don't forget, this is the last time that I'm going to do this. To those of you listening to the regular podcast or on YouTube, but I just, I, I'm so, so stoked and I'm so pumped about our Patreon because it is a dollar a week, $4 a month.

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I think it's less than the cost of a cup of coffee. But I want to get coffee with you. I want to sit down. I want to chat. Youth ministry. I want to chat. Creativity. I want to chat. How to make your programing more engaging? Because Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they want a more custom and personalized approach.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I believe that sidekick not only in this beta version, but also in the future. Rolling out has the tools that it takes to do that. I'm challenging myself to use sidekick every single time we're in the room with our students, and I want to encourage you to try and lean into your creativity and do the same. And so I know when I hear a brainstorm that's helpful for me to just listen to someone else and then beg and borrow and steal and tweak and adapt and use different ideas.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's why I want my Patreon to be is just a place for you guys to get that weekly sort of bonus content, along with, as you see here, on screen, exclusive merch and exclusive sticker for everyone who signs up before the month of December. December 2nd, they'll be yours. I'll mail it to you. You can help me choose some show and segment topics, and also some shout outs special for those over there on my Patreon page.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But that number five idea that's over there going to be in this week's Patreon will drop on Monday of this week. So once again, my friends so excited that you here. Thank you for diving in deep with sidekick. The next episode we are going to be hopping into all things Christmas, Christmas parties, holiday planning, and everything that you need to know to round out the year.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Amazingly, in your ministry. Finish strong. The Lord is equipped you for what he has you doing. But don't forget and as always my friends, to stay hybrid.

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Ideal for leaders aiming to elevate their hybrid ministry approach in their student ministry, this episode offers key strategies to transform your youth ministry. 16:06 no ๐ŸŽง BONUS WEEKLY PODCAST https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ SIDEKICK SETUP GUIDE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/setup DESCRIPTION In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, discover how to create truly interactive sermons and programming using Sidekick made by Download Youth Ministry to engage students like never before! Weโ€™ll explore practical ways to blend creativity with technology, making your youth ministry sermons more dynamic and memorable. Ideal for leaders aiming to elevate their hybrid ministry approach in their student ministry, this episode offers key strategies to transform your youth ministry. ๐Ÿ““ SHOWNOTES http://www.hybridministry.xyz/125 //SIDEKICK SETUP GUIDE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/setup //COLEADER PRICING CODE: HYBRIDMINISTRY10 https://www.sidekick.tv/pricing //[FREE] STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book //CUSTOM HYBRID COACHING https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching //CHURCH COMMUNICATIONS DONE FOR YOU! https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/comms //ERIK W/A 'K' https://www.youtube.com/@practicalyouthministrytips ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz -------------- ๐ŸŽ‰ FREE STUFF ๐ŸŽ‰ We have all kinds of FREE Things that you can use in your context! 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Some of the below links are affiliate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit //SIDEKICK SETUP GUIDE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/setup ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Random Spinning Wheel 01:39 Co-Leader Discount Code! 03:05 The Power of Creativity 5:00 Wheel Idea #1 08:15 Wheel Idea #2 09:22 Wheel Tech Booth Point of View 11:38 Wheel Idea #3 12:14 Customize your slide background 15:10 Wheel Idea #4 -------------- 00;00;00;00 - 00;00;27;13 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry What if I told you that you could have access to a customizable spinning wheel that is actually woven in and built into the fabric of your presentation software? Not just like from free wheel spinner.com, because, you know, if you're presenting or preaching in church that you want that wheel to come in and you want it to be seamless, you don't want to drag an ugly browser window in across your screen. 00;00;27;16 - 00;00;48;16 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And so what if that presentation ability was available in your PowerPoint, in your profit center, on your church projector screens? Well, what if I told you that it was, you know, download and Youth Ministry has had the customizable spinning wheel available to youth pastors, but it is now available to all 00;00;48;16 - 00;00;53;01 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry people. It is woven into the new beta version of 00;00;53;01 - 00;00;54;03 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry sidekick. 00;00;54;03 - 00;01;10;25 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And in this episode, not only are we going to explore how it's a little bit different than the legacy version of the sidekick, but we're going to look at all of the features. And so if you are watching here on YouTube, first of all, go ahead and give me a like because if you don't know, that incredibly helps us out. 00;01;10;28 - 00;01;30;13 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But second, I would love it if you, are listening to Hop Over and you can watch a live demo as I not only build the wheel, but I show you all the different features and I want to talk through in this episode for of my most favorite ways to use and integrate the wheel into our programing, into 00;01;30;13 - 00;01;32;25 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry my lessons, into my messages. 00;01;33;02 - 00;01;42;09 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And so much more. Hey everyone! Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid 00;01;42;09 - 00;02;10;01 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Ministry show. My name is Nicholas and I am a 14 year Youth ministry veteran. And welcome to our playlist where we explore the best features of sidekick. And as you see here on screen, rotating through on my pre-roll announcements for the Hybrid Ministry show, which you can replicate this by simply clicking the link right here at the top of the video to go back and watch some of the more miscellaneous features available here in this playlist. 00;02;10;03 - 00;02;43;04 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But we are talking about sidekick, and in this particular episode, we're talking about the ways that you can use the wheel. But here's what you might not know is that if you've never jumped into anything dim or Co-Leader, which is our, curriculum software that does unlock access to sidekick, my listeners get an exclusive offer if you use the code hybrid Ministry ten, you'll get 10% off Premium or Premium plus of co-leader curriculum, which, like I said, is how you gain access to sidekick. 00;02;43;11 - 00;03;04;09 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry There is a way to get sidekick ala carte as well. But if you are in youth ministry and you're looking for curriculum, I'm just telling you, Collider is the way to go. You get so much I don't even know how to download. Youth ministry is making money. But again, in addition to that, you get 10% off, if you use my code hybrid ministry ten. 00;03;04;09 - 00;03;25;22 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So, we're going to get out of these looping announcements, and I want to show you what it looks like to have the customizable spinning wheel. Now here is the preview in the window over here. This little window down here, we're going to pretend, like I said, in the first, video in this playlist, this, sidekick is browser based. 00;03;25;24 - 00;03;42;25 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So it's going to create a new window. You're going to drag that ugly window onto your projector screen, but then from there you're going to click full screen. It's going to be seamless. Now, if you are still using both sidekick and also pro presenter, go ahead and check the link down below in the show notes for how we have set up. 00;03;42;25 - 00;03;47;04 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Because we are, we're all in on sidekick. And the reason that 00;03;47;04 - 00;04;10;02 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry I'm all in on sidekick is it forces me to be more creative in my programing, and I find that when I'm more creative, our students are more engaged and better engaged. And, I personally feel like that I'm doing a better job communicating and being a youth pastor and leaning in and showing up where students are, which that's one of the whole goals, is one viewer students are. 00;04;10;02 - 00;04;31;16 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And that's what hybrid really affords us. The opportunity to do is to be where our people are. And so, if you didn't know this, we're actually starting a brand new Patreon page here on the Hybrid Ministry show, where I'm going to just rattle off what we did in youth group this week. And as I do, I'll explain all the ways we're using sidekick along with all the other things that we're doing in our youth ministry. 00;04;31;16 - 00;04;50;06 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And so I want you to go ahead and check that out. If you haven't, you can click right here. The, the QR code that you see here on screen. I'll, I'll make that a little bit bigger for you. You can click that or you can simply head to a patreon.com/hybrid ministry and join for only $4 a month. 00;04;50;13 - 00;05;26;20 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry The bonus podcast I'm gonna release is a weekly podcast. So when you do $4 a month, that essentially nets out to $1 per week, which is crazy town. So I would love to invite you into that. But here's one of my favorite ways to use and utilize the wheel the random wheel. So in our student ministry not too long ago, we, used one of my friend Eric with a case games, and I'm not sure I don't think he got this game on to download youth ministry before the Halloween, but man, I loved the concept. 00;05;26;20 - 00;05;47;12 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry It was like a digital, like, sort of escape room sort of thing. And what Eric did, which was just like, so incredible, was like, it was like you work through rooms in your space and you had different contestants kind of do that, right now getting contestants, man, that is one of the most difficult things in youth ministry, right? 00;05;47;12 - 00;06;07;11 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Because you've been a real like, who wants to who wants to be a volunteer, who wants to be a volunteer? And so what we did was we created a wheel that would, basically volunteer certain people. So we had our, groups broken down by grade. And so we had like sixth grade, we had seventh and eighth grade, we had ninth and 10th grade, and then we had 11th and 12th grade. 00;06;07;11 - 00;06;33;02 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So for total, sixth year, I was the only one that was standalone. And the other, you know, six remaining grades are grouped together seventh and eighth, ninth and 10th, 11th, 12th. You get the idea. But then we said we need the whatever the wheel says person from each of these grades. So again, this is something I would go over on my Patreon page and hopefully it might help you out helping me more creative and thus ultimately more engaging. 00;06;33;06 - 00;06;53;23 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But what we did was we just added a wheel and we said, all right, I need the sixth grader who's the tallest, I need the seventh grader who's the shortest? I need the ninth 10th grader who has the tallest socks I need the 11th 12th grader has the lowest phone battery percentage. And so if you're watching here on screen, what you do is you simply click edit Slide and right at the top all you got to do is click wheel. 00;06;53;25 - 00;07;15;02 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry You want to add the wheel. And so in pops the wheel settings right here. And so this is where you can adjust the individual items in the wheel. So if you don't want cheese because it's not relevant to what you're doing you can say tallest. And if you want highest battery percentage you say highest battery percentage where's a percent. 00;07;15;02 - 00;07;37;26 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So there it is. If you want to add another one, you simply click Add Item. Or better yet, you can do bulk add and you can just type them all in. And so you go, tallest socks, reddest hair, biggest mustache, or whatever your criteria are. There they are. You click add three items and boom, they are off and rolling. 00;07;37;26 - 00;07;56;10 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Now once your wheel is on the screen, you notice it's kind of covering my face here if you don't want that. So you can go up to this little corner and just simply shrink it and put it right where you want it, maybe right underneath that finger where I'm pointing. Maybe you want it huge, right? So you can make it even bigger. 00;07;56;14 - 00;08;24;23 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry You can make it even smaller. And, there's all sorts of different ways that you can kind of mess around with and use the wheel, but that's way number one. We kind of like to use the wheel as a, contestant sort of generator. All right. The other thing that I love about the wheel is, or another way, way number two that we use the wheel is we will use it sometimes as a prize wheel. 00;08;24;23 - 00;08;43;29 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So we have a winner of a game, a standalone winner or a group of winners. And then we let that winner go ahead and, spin the wheel for an opportunity to win. So let's just say that they won pizza. And so here, I've already input my different types of pizza that I want to let them win. 00;08;44;03 - 00;09;07;00 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And so when you go ahead and, get this thing launched, you will see that you can you have a lot of different access, right? You have a lot of different access once you get this thing up and rolling. So we're going to pretend this is our projector screen and your person, oh, your person back in your booth is going to be the one that sees this. 00;09;07;00 - 00;09;30;04 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Or again, don't forget that. Now they have phone integration so you can run it like a remote phone, which is a pretty cool feature. So here we are. We are on our wheel right here. And this is what it looks like for the person in the booth. They'll have this start spin option. And they'll be able to see down here that the next winner is cheese. 00;09;30;11 - 00;09;51;01 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But if I don't want it to be cheese, it can reroll and it can reroll it randomly. Or you can choose a pre-selected option so you can see all of your options here. And you can say, I don't have Hawaiian pizza, I don't have deep dish, I only have sausage. And so we're going to make them think that they have the opportunity to get sausage. 00;09;51;02 - 00;10;13;06 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But really they don't. And so we're not doing random. We're going to do pre-selected. The pre-selected winner here is sausage. And now when we spin the wheel you're seeing it. You're hearing it. The winner is sausage right. Like I said I can now clear that. Now let's say I gave away sausage and so I don't want that anymore. 00;10;13;09 - 00;10;33;01 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry This is where I can turn on this hide. Last item. And so now sausage, which was what I give away. Now I don't have it because I gave it to this group. And I need a new prize to give away to the next group. I can't give away sausage twice. It only had it once. If I click hide last item, it will go away and it won't be an option on the wheel anymore. 00;10;33;01 - 00;10;57;16 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry So now let's just simulate that again. So I did in fact go ahead. Giveaway sausage I'm hiding the last item. Consider the last item hidden. And then we're going to clear that it's gone. And now we're like oh it needs to be pepperoni. So here we go. Give a pepperoni to the winning group. Group number two. Congratulations you one pepperoni. 00;10;57;16 - 00;11;17;12 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Now if you're listening here on screen or you it was able to be picked up through my microphone, you will notice that they have different sound effects. So when you do the little, cheery sound effect, that's the one that pepperoni just made you. Little shrug sound effect. That's just a little kind of simple, like click sound, like, and so you can change that. 00;11;17;12 - 00;11;45;19 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Or if it's a negative consequence, you can also do the lose sound. And so cheese now has the lose sound. And so that sounds something like this. Now that no one wants cheese. All right. This is this is the bottom line. Okay. Here is another idea that I have is, we might, in our space, do something where, we have, like, rows. 00;11;45;23 - 00;12;03;14 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry We have 16 tables. So there's four, 4x4, four tables across, four tables down 16 total. So we might do something when we have a passage of Scripture, you know, that we want people to look up. And so then we might use the wheel and say, all right, row one. You're going to look up this. Row two, you're going to look up that. 00;12;03;16 - 00;12;22;06 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And here's what's cool is you saw my picture here. So you can also make your background custom. So right here let's say I want this slide right here to be where I put my wheel. First I got to give it a background right. So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to make it an image background. 00;12;22;09 - 00;12;48;13 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry I'm going to upload a file. And I'm going to go navigate to these different verses of this slide that I have already made. And so boom, there's my verse slides. And so now I don't want that. I want the wheel now. And so I can say row one, row two, row three and row four. We're going to add those. 00;12;48;16 - 00;13;13;19 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry We're going to remove these. And now I can put this right here. Again don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten gets you 10% off of Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. But now I can put that right here. And I can say all right row one. You're going to go first. And then very simply right. Like as I am presenting this sucker, got to get down to it so I can show it to you. 00;13;13;19 - 00;13;42;15 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry But as I'm presenting it, I'll say, all right, row one. Here you go. Or not? Row one. Luke one goes to row one, in fact. Right. And once again, I should have selected hide winner because I can't actually have row one. That's a bummer, I missed out. What am I supposed to do? Well, your purpose in in person can actually hop back over here to edit and just very simply, either hide them and now they're going to be off my wheel or delete them and they're off my wheel either way. 00;13;42;18 - 00;14;01;14 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Now if I hide them right, I can add them back on very simply. If, I delete them, I do have to go back in here and I have to type it all back out and do all that stuff, which as you see, is not that difficult. But it it does take a little bit more of an additional step. 00;14;01;14 - 00;14;21;22 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry Now here's the other cool thing. You might be thinking like, I don't I don't want like that background. I want like I want a video background. Great. Check this out. I don't want this background anymore. I go back in here to edit slide. I don't want it going to go over here to my slide settings. And instead of it being an image background, I can do a color background. 00;14;21;22 - 00;14;43;08 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry He's my color options right? Those are all the preloaded ones. Or I can say I want a video background. So I'm going to select video and I want it to be a YouTube embedded video, and I want it to be my video. So we're going to copy and paste that link here, paste embed that YouTube video and boom. 00;14;43;10 - 00;15;00;25 Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry And I can put the wheel anywhere that I want. Now keep in mind that when it's a background, you saw it right here. Background videos will loop automatically and they do not play sounds. And so you can pull these directly off of the internet. 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00:00 Random Spinning Wheel
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09:22 Wheel Tech Booth Point of View
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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
What if I told you that you could have access to a customizable spinning wheel that is actually woven in and built into the fabric of your presentation software? Not just like from free wheel spinner.com, because, you know, if you're presenting or preaching in church that you want that wheel to come in and you want it to be seamless, you don't want to drag an ugly browser window in across your screen.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so what if that presentation ability was available in your PowerPoint, in your profit center, on your church projector screens? Well, what if I told you that it was, you know, download and Youth Ministry has had the customizable spinning wheel available to youth pastors, but it is now available to all

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people. It is woven into the new beta version of

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sidekick.

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And in this episode, not only are we going to explore how it's a little bit different than the legacy version of the sidekick, but we're going to look at all of the features. And so if you are watching here on YouTube, first of all, go ahead and give me a like because if you don't know, that incredibly helps us out.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But second, I would love it if you, are listening to Hop Over and you can watch a live demo as I not only build the wheel, but I show you all the different features and I want to talk through in this episode for of my most favorite ways to use and integrate the wheel into our programing, into

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my lessons, into my messages.

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And so much more. Hey everyone! Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid

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Ministry show. My name is Nicholas and I am a 14 year Youth ministry veteran. And welcome to our playlist where we explore the best features of sidekick. And as you see here on screen, rotating through on my pre-roll announcements for the Hybrid Ministry show, which you can replicate this by simply clicking the link right here at the top of the video to go back and watch some of the more miscellaneous features available here in this playlist.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But we are talking about sidekick, and in this particular episode, we're talking about the ways that you can use the wheel. But here's what you might not know is that if you've never jumped into anything dim or Co-Leader, which is our, curriculum software that does unlock access to sidekick, my listeners get an exclusive offer if you use the code hybrid Ministry ten, you'll get 10% off Premium or Premium plus of co-leader curriculum, which, like I said, is how you gain access to sidekick.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
There is a way to get sidekick ala carte as well. But if you are in youth ministry and you're looking for curriculum, I'm just telling you, Collider is the way to go. You get so much I don't even know how to download. Youth ministry is making money. But again, in addition to that, you get 10% off, if you use my code hybrid ministry ten.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So, we're going to get out of these looping announcements, and I want to show you what it looks like to have the customizable spinning wheel. Now here is the preview in the window over here. This little window down here, we're going to pretend, like I said, in the first, video in this playlist, this, sidekick is browser based.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So it's going to create a new window. You're going to drag that ugly window onto your projector screen, but then from there you're going to click full screen. It's going to be seamless. Now, if you are still using both sidekick and also pro presenter, go ahead and check the link down below in the show notes for how we have set up.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Because we are, we're all in on sidekick. And the reason that

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
I'm all in on sidekick is it forces me to be more creative in my programing, and I find that when I'm more creative, our students are more engaged and better engaged. And, I personally feel like that I'm doing a better job communicating and being a youth pastor and leaning in and showing up where students are, which that's one of the whole goals, is one viewer students are.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And that's what hybrid really affords us. The opportunity to do is to be where our people are. And so, if you didn't know this, we're actually starting a brand new Patreon page here on the Hybrid Ministry show, where I'm going to just rattle off what we did in youth group this week. And as I do, I'll explain all the ways we're using sidekick along with all the other things that we're doing in our youth ministry.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so I want you to go ahead and check that out. If you haven't, you can click right here. The, the QR code that you see here on screen. I'll, I'll make that a little bit bigger for you. You can click that or you can simply head to a patreon.com/hybrid ministry and join for only $4 a month.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
The bonus podcast I'm gonna release is a weekly podcast. So when you do $4 a month, that essentially nets out to $1 per week, which is crazy town. So I would love to invite you into that. But here's one of my favorite ways to use and utilize the wheel the random wheel. So in our student ministry not too long ago, we, used one of my friend Eric with a case games, and I'm not sure I don't think he got this game on to download youth ministry before the Halloween, but man, I loved the concept.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
It was like a digital, like, sort of escape room sort of thing. And what Eric did, which was just like, so incredible, was like, it was like you work through rooms in your space and you had different contestants kind of do that, right now getting contestants, man, that is one of the most difficult things in youth ministry, right?

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Because you've been a real like, who wants to who wants to be a volunteer, who wants to be a volunteer? And so what we did was we created a wheel that would, basically volunteer certain people. So we had our, groups broken down by grade. And so we had like sixth grade, we had seventh and eighth grade, we had ninth and 10th grade, and then we had 11th and 12th grade.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So for total, sixth year, I was the only one that was standalone. And the other, you know, six remaining grades are grouped together seventh and eighth, ninth and 10th, 11th, 12th. You get the idea. But then we said we need the whatever the wheel says person from each of these grades. So again, this is something I would go over on my Patreon page and hopefully it might help you out helping me more creative and thus ultimately more engaging.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But what we did was we just added a wheel and we said, all right, I need the sixth grader who's the tallest, I need the seventh grader who's the shortest? I need the ninth 10th grader who has the tallest socks I need the 11th 12th grader has the lowest phone battery percentage. And so if you're watching here on screen, what you do is you simply click edit Slide and right at the top all you got to do is click wheel.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
You want to add the wheel. And so in pops the wheel settings right here. And so this is where you can adjust the individual items in the wheel. So if you don't want cheese because it's not relevant to what you're doing you can say tallest. And if you want highest battery percentage you say highest battery percentage where's a percent.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So there it is. If you want to add another one, you simply click Add Item. Or better yet, you can do bulk add and you can just type them all in. And so you go, tallest socks, reddest hair, biggest mustache, or whatever your criteria are. There they are. You click add three items and boom, they are off and rolling.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now once your wheel is on the screen, you notice it's kind of covering my face here if you don't want that. So you can go up to this little corner and just simply shrink it and put it right where you want it, maybe right underneath that finger where I'm pointing. Maybe you want it huge, right? So you can make it even bigger.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
You can make it even smaller. And, there's all sorts of different ways that you can kind of mess around with and use the wheel, but that's way number one. We kind of like to use the wheel as a, contestant sort of generator. All right. The other thing that I love about the wheel is, or another way, way number two that we use the wheel is we will use it sometimes as a prize wheel.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So we have a winner of a game, a standalone winner or a group of winners. And then we let that winner go ahead and, spin the wheel for an opportunity to win. So let's just say that they won pizza. And so here, I've already input my different types of pizza that I want to let them win.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so when you go ahead and, get this thing launched, you will see that you can you have a lot of different access, right? You have a lot of different access once you get this thing up and rolling. So we're going to pretend this is our projector screen and your person, oh, your person back in your booth is going to be the one that sees this.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Or again, don't forget that. Now they have phone integration so you can run it like a remote phone, which is a pretty cool feature. So here we are. We are on our wheel right here. And this is what it looks like for the person in the booth. They'll have this start spin option. And they'll be able to see down here that the next winner is cheese.

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But if I don't want it to be cheese, it can reroll and it can reroll it randomly. Or you can choose a pre-selected option so you can see all of your options here. And you can say, I don't have Hawaiian pizza, I don't have deep dish, I only have sausage. And so we're going to make them think that they have the opportunity to get sausage.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But really they don't. And so we're not doing random. We're going to do pre-selected. The pre-selected winner here is sausage. And now when we spin the wheel you're seeing it. You're hearing it. The winner is sausage right. Like I said I can now clear that. Now let's say I gave away sausage and so I don't want that anymore.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
This is where I can turn on this hide. Last item. And so now sausage, which was what I give away. Now I don't have it because I gave it to this group. And I need a new prize to give away to the next group. I can't give away sausage twice. It only had it once. If I click hide last item, it will go away and it won't be an option on the wheel anymore.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So now let's just simulate that again. So I did in fact go ahead. Giveaway sausage I'm hiding the last item. Consider the last item hidden. And then we're going to clear that it's gone. And now we're like oh it needs to be pepperoni. So here we go. Give a pepperoni to the winning group. Group number two. Congratulations you one pepperoni.

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Now if you're listening here on screen or you it was able to be picked up through my microphone, you will notice that they have different sound effects. So when you do the little, cheery sound effect, that's the one that pepperoni just made you. Little shrug sound effect. That's just a little kind of simple, like click sound, like, and so you can change that.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Or if it's a negative consequence, you can also do the lose sound. And so cheese now has the lose sound. And so that sounds something like this. Now that no one wants cheese. All right. This is this is the bottom line. Okay. Here is another idea that I have is, we might, in our space, do something where, we have, like, rows.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
We have 16 tables. So there's four, 4x4, four tables across, four tables down 16 total. So we might do something when we have a passage of Scripture, you know, that we want people to look up. And so then we might use the wheel and say, all right, row one. You're going to look up this. Row two, you're going to look up that.

00;12;03;16 - 00;12;22;06
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And here's what's cool is you saw my picture here. So you can also make your background custom. So right here let's say I want this slide right here to be where I put my wheel. First I got to give it a background right. So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to make it an image background.

00;12;22;09 - 00;12;48;13
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to upload a file. And I'm going to go navigate to these different verses of this slide that I have already made. And so boom, there's my verse slides. And so now I don't want that. I want the wheel now. And so I can say row one, row two, row three and row four. We're going to add those.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
We're going to remove these. And now I can put this right here. Again don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten gets you 10% off of Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. But now I can put that right here. And I can say all right row one. You're going to go first. And then very simply right. Like as I am presenting this sucker, got to get down to it so I can show it to you.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But as I'm presenting it, I'll say, all right, row one. Here you go. Or not? Row one. Luke one goes to row one, in fact. Right. And once again, I should have selected hide winner because I can't actually have row one. That's a bummer, I missed out. What am I supposed to do? Well, your purpose in in person can actually hop back over here to edit and just very simply, either hide them and now they're going to be off my wheel or delete them and they're off my wheel either way.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now if I hide them right, I can add them back on very simply. If, I delete them, I do have to go back in here and I have to type it all back out and do all that stuff, which as you see, is not that difficult. But it it does take a little bit more of an additional step.

00;14;01;14 - 00;14;21;22
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now here's the other cool thing. You might be thinking like, I don't I don't want like that background. I want like I want a video background. Great. Check this out. I don't want this background anymore. I go back in here to edit slide. I don't want it going to go over here to my slide settings. And instead of it being an image background, I can do a color background.

00;14;21;22 - 00;14;43;08
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
He's my color options right? Those are all the preloaded ones. Or I can say I want a video background. So I'm going to select video and I want it to be a YouTube embedded video, and I want it to be my video. So we're going to copy and paste that link here, paste embed that YouTube video and boom.

00;14;43;10 - 00;15;00;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And I can put the wheel anywhere that I want. Now keep in mind that when it's a background, you saw it right here. Background videos will loop automatically and they do not play sounds. And so you can pull these directly off of the internet. And this is why I believe every single youth ministry should have a strong digital presence also.

00;15;00;25 - 00;15;21;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Hey, why you're here, why don't you go ahead and grab my hybrid strategy guide with a little bit of a different name from this episode that I dropped a little bit over a year ago. So that was idea number three. You can give out passages for the we'll idea number four, I'm actually going to share with those of you that are on my Patreon page.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
customize and use the wheel in my different teachings and in my different presentations.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Hey, my friends, as always, don't forget if you want to know how to use the name picker that is going to be here in the next episode, if you're watching on YouTube, that'll be right here on screen. Go hop over to Patreon page. But until next time, and as always, my friends stay hybrid.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Random Spinning Wheel
01:39 Co-Leader Discount Code!
03:05 The Power of Creativity
5:00 Wheel Idea #1
08:15 Wheel Idea #2
09:22 Wheel Tech Booth Point of View
11:38 Wheel Idea #3
12:14 Customize your slide background
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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
What if I told you that you could have access to a customizable spinning wheel that is actually woven in and built into the fabric of your presentation software? Not just like from free wheel spinner.com, because, you know, if you're presenting or preaching in church that you want that wheel to come in and you want it to be seamless, you don't want to drag an ugly browser window in across your screen.

00;00;27;16 - 00;00;48;16
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so what if that presentation ability was available in your PowerPoint, in your profit center, on your church projector screens? Well, what if I told you that it was, you know, download and Youth Ministry has had the customizable spinning wheel available to youth pastors, but it is now available to all

00;00;48;16 - 00;00;53;01
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
people. It is woven into the new beta version of

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
sidekick.

00;00;54;03 - 00;01;10;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And in this episode, not only are we going to explore how it's a little bit different than the legacy version of the sidekick, but we're going to look at all of the features. And so if you are watching here on YouTube, first of all, go ahead and give me a like because if you don't know, that incredibly helps us out.

00;01;10;28 - 00;01;30;13
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But second, I would love it if you, are listening to Hop Over and you can watch a live demo as I not only build the wheel, but I show you all the different features and I want to talk through in this episode for of my most favorite ways to use and integrate the wheel into our programing, into

00;01;30;13 - 00;01;32;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
my lessons, into my messages.

00;01;33;02 - 00;01;42;09
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so much more. Hey everyone! Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid

00;01;42;09 - 00;02;10;01
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Ministry show. My name is Nicholas and I am a 14 year Youth ministry veteran. And welcome to our playlist where we explore the best features of sidekick. And as you see here on screen, rotating through on my pre-roll announcements for the Hybrid Ministry show, which you can replicate this by simply clicking the link right here at the top of the video to go back and watch some of the more miscellaneous features available here in this playlist.

00;02;10;03 - 00;02;43;04
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But we are talking about sidekick, and in this particular episode, we're talking about the ways that you can use the wheel. But here's what you might not know is that if you've never jumped into anything dim or Co-Leader, which is our, curriculum software that does unlock access to sidekick, my listeners get an exclusive offer if you use the code hybrid Ministry ten, you'll get 10% off Premium or Premium plus of co-leader curriculum, which, like I said, is how you gain access to sidekick.

00;02;43;11 - 00;03;04;09
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
There is a way to get sidekick ala carte as well. But if you are in youth ministry and you're looking for curriculum, I'm just telling you, Collider is the way to go. You get so much I don't even know how to download. Youth ministry is making money. But again, in addition to that, you get 10% off, if you use my code hybrid ministry ten.

00;03;04;09 - 00;03;25;22
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So, we're going to get out of these looping announcements, and I want to show you what it looks like to have the customizable spinning wheel. Now here is the preview in the window over here. This little window down here, we're going to pretend, like I said, in the first, video in this playlist, this, sidekick is browser based.

00;03;25;24 - 00;03;42;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So it's going to create a new window. You're going to drag that ugly window onto your projector screen, but then from there you're going to click full screen. It's going to be seamless. Now, if you are still using both sidekick and also pro presenter, go ahead and check the link down below in the show notes for how we have set up.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Because we are, we're all in on sidekick. And the reason that

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
I'm all in on sidekick is it forces me to be more creative in my programing, and I find that when I'm more creative, our students are more engaged and better engaged. And, I personally feel like that I'm doing a better job communicating and being a youth pastor and leaning in and showing up where students are, which that's one of the whole goals, is one viewer students are.

00;04;10;02 - 00;04;31;16
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And that's what hybrid really affords us. The opportunity to do is to be where our people are. And so, if you didn't know this, we're actually starting a brand new Patreon page here on the Hybrid Ministry show, where I'm going to just rattle off what we did in youth group this week. And as I do, I'll explain all the ways we're using sidekick along with all the other things that we're doing in our youth ministry.

00;04;31;16 - 00;04;50;06
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so I want you to go ahead and check that out. If you haven't, you can click right here. The, the QR code that you see here on screen. I'll, I'll make that a little bit bigger for you. You can click that or you can simply head to a patreon.com/hybrid ministry and join for only $4 a month.

00;04;50;13 - 00;05;26;20
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
The bonus podcast I'm gonna release is a weekly podcast. So when you do $4 a month, that essentially nets out to $1 per week, which is crazy town. So I would love to invite you into that. But here's one of my favorite ways to use and utilize the wheel the random wheel. So in our student ministry not too long ago, we, used one of my friend Eric with a case games, and I'm not sure I don't think he got this game on to download youth ministry before the Halloween, but man, I loved the concept.

00;05;26;20 - 00;05;47;12
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
It was like a digital, like, sort of escape room sort of thing. And what Eric did, which was just like, so incredible, was like, it was like you work through rooms in your space and you had different contestants kind of do that, right now getting contestants, man, that is one of the most difficult things in youth ministry, right?

00;05;47;12 - 00;06;07;11
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Because you've been a real like, who wants to who wants to be a volunteer, who wants to be a volunteer? And so what we did was we created a wheel that would, basically volunteer certain people. So we had our, groups broken down by grade. And so we had like sixth grade, we had seventh and eighth grade, we had ninth and 10th grade, and then we had 11th and 12th grade.

00;06;07;11 - 00;06;33;02
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So for total, sixth year, I was the only one that was standalone. And the other, you know, six remaining grades are grouped together seventh and eighth, ninth and 10th, 11th, 12th. You get the idea. But then we said we need the whatever the wheel says person from each of these grades. So again, this is something I would go over on my Patreon page and hopefully it might help you out helping me more creative and thus ultimately more engaging.

00;06;33;06 - 00;06;53;23
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But what we did was we just added a wheel and we said, all right, I need the sixth grader who's the tallest, I need the seventh grader who's the shortest? I need the ninth 10th grader who has the tallest socks I need the 11th 12th grader has the lowest phone battery percentage. And so if you're watching here on screen, what you do is you simply click edit Slide and right at the top all you got to do is click wheel.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
You want to add the wheel. And so in pops the wheel settings right here. And so this is where you can adjust the individual items in the wheel. So if you don't want cheese because it's not relevant to what you're doing you can say tallest. And if you want highest battery percentage you say highest battery percentage where's a percent.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So there it is. If you want to add another one, you simply click Add Item. Or better yet, you can do bulk add and you can just type them all in. And so you go, tallest socks, reddest hair, biggest mustache, or whatever your criteria are. There they are. You click add three items and boom, they are off and rolling.

00;07;37;26 - 00;07;56;10
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now once your wheel is on the screen, you notice it's kind of covering my face here if you don't want that. So you can go up to this little corner and just simply shrink it and put it right where you want it, maybe right underneath that finger where I'm pointing. Maybe you want it huge, right? So you can make it even bigger.

00;07;56;14 - 00;08;24;23
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
You can make it even smaller. And, there's all sorts of different ways that you can kind of mess around with and use the wheel, but that's way number one. We kind of like to use the wheel as a, contestant sort of generator. All right. The other thing that I love about the wheel is, or another way, way number two that we use the wheel is we will use it sometimes as a prize wheel.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So we have a winner of a game, a standalone winner or a group of winners. And then we let that winner go ahead and, spin the wheel for an opportunity to win. So let's just say that they won pizza. And so here, I've already input my different types of pizza that I want to let them win.

00;08;44;03 - 00;09;07;00
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And so when you go ahead and, get this thing launched, you will see that you can you have a lot of different access, right? You have a lot of different access once you get this thing up and rolling. So we're going to pretend this is our projector screen and your person, oh, your person back in your booth is going to be the one that sees this.

00;09;07;00 - 00;09;30;04
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Or again, don't forget that. Now they have phone integration so you can run it like a remote phone, which is a pretty cool feature. So here we are. We are on our wheel right here. And this is what it looks like for the person in the booth. They'll have this start spin option. And they'll be able to see down here that the next winner is cheese.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But if I don't want it to be cheese, it can reroll and it can reroll it randomly. Or you can choose a pre-selected option so you can see all of your options here. And you can say, I don't have Hawaiian pizza, I don't have deep dish, I only have sausage. And so we're going to make them think that they have the opportunity to get sausage.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But really they don't. And so we're not doing random. We're going to do pre-selected. The pre-selected winner here is sausage. And now when we spin the wheel you're seeing it. You're hearing it. The winner is sausage right. Like I said I can now clear that. Now let's say I gave away sausage and so I don't want that anymore.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
This is where I can turn on this hide. Last item. And so now sausage, which was what I give away. Now I don't have it because I gave it to this group. And I need a new prize to give away to the next group. I can't give away sausage twice. It only had it once. If I click hide last item, it will go away and it won't be an option on the wheel anymore.

00;10;33;01 - 00;10;57;16
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
So now let's just simulate that again. So I did in fact go ahead. Giveaway sausage I'm hiding the last item. Consider the last item hidden. And then we're going to clear that it's gone. And now we're like oh it needs to be pepperoni. So here we go. Give a pepperoni to the winning group. Group number two. Congratulations you one pepperoni.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now if you're listening here on screen or you it was able to be picked up through my microphone, you will notice that they have different sound effects. So when you do the little, cheery sound effect, that's the one that pepperoni just made you. Little shrug sound effect. That's just a little kind of simple, like click sound, like, and so you can change that.

00;11;17;12 - 00;11;45;19
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Or if it's a negative consequence, you can also do the lose sound. And so cheese now has the lose sound. And so that sounds something like this. Now that no one wants cheese. All right. This is this is the bottom line. Okay. Here is another idea that I have is, we might, in our space, do something where, we have, like, rows.

00;11;45;23 - 00;12;03;14
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
We have 16 tables. So there's four, 4x4, four tables across, four tables down 16 total. So we might do something when we have a passage of Scripture, you know, that we want people to look up. And so then we might use the wheel and say, all right, row one. You're going to look up this. Row two, you're going to look up that.

00;12;03;16 - 00;12;22;06
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And here's what's cool is you saw my picture here. So you can also make your background custom. So right here let's say I want this slide right here to be where I put my wheel. First I got to give it a background right. So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to make it an image background.

00;12;22;09 - 00;12;48;13
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to upload a file. And I'm going to go navigate to these different verses of this slide that I have already made. And so boom, there's my verse slides. And so now I don't want that. I want the wheel now. And so I can say row one, row two, row three and row four. We're going to add those.

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Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
We're going to remove these. And now I can put this right here. Again don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten gets you 10% off of Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. But now I can put that right here. And I can say all right row one. You're going to go first. And then very simply right. Like as I am presenting this sucker, got to get down to it so I can show it to you.

00;13;13;19 - 00;13;42;15
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
But as I'm presenting it, I'll say, all right, row one. Here you go. Or not? Row one. Luke one goes to row one, in fact. Right. And once again, I should have selected hide winner because I can't actually have row one. That's a bummer, I missed out. What am I supposed to do? Well, your purpose in in person can actually hop back over here to edit and just very simply, either hide them and now they're going to be off my wheel or delete them and they're off my wheel either way.

00;13;42;18 - 00;14;01;14
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now if I hide them right, I can add them back on very simply. If, I delete them, I do have to go back in here and I have to type it all back out and do all that stuff, which as you see, is not that difficult. But it it does take a little bit more of an additional step.

00;14;01;14 - 00;14;21;22
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now here's the other cool thing. You might be thinking like, I don't I don't want like that background. I want like I want a video background. Great. Check this out. I don't want this background anymore. I go back in here to edit slide. I don't want it going to go over here to my slide settings. And instead of it being an image background, I can do a color background.

00;14;21;22 - 00;14;43;08
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
He's my color options right? Those are all the preloaded ones. Or I can say I want a video background. So I'm going to select video and I want it to be a YouTube embedded video, and I want it to be my video. So we're going to copy and paste that link here, paste embed that YouTube video and boom.

00;14;43;10 - 00;15;00;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
And I can put the wheel anywhere that I want. Now keep in mind that when it's a background, you saw it right here. Background videos will loop automatically and they do not play sounds. And so you can pull these directly off of the internet. And this is why I believe every single youth ministry should have a strong digital presence also.

00;15;00;25 - 00;15;21;25
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Hey, why you're here, why don't you go ahead and grab my hybrid strategy guide with a little bit of a different name from this episode that I dropped a little bit over a year ago. So that was idea number three. You can give out passages for the we'll idea number four, I'm actually going to share with those of you that are on my Patreon page.

00;15;21;25 - 00;15;44;13
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Now listen, don't forget that it's only about a dollar a week. And anyone who signs up before December 2nd, 2024 will get an exclusive free piece of merch. So you're going to get a piece of merch that's probably worth like $20. That's gonna like, pay for itself in the first five months. And I'm going to share my fourth favorite way that I

00;15;44;13 - 00;15;49;02
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
customize and use the wheel in my different teachings and in my different presentations.

00;15;49;09 - 00;16;06;08
Nick Clason| Hybrid Ministry
Hey, my friends, as always, don't forget if you want to know how to use the name picker that is going to be here in the next episode, if you're watching on YouTube, that'll be right here on screen. Go hop over to Patreon page. But until next time, and as always, my friends stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 124: Truly Interactive Sermons | How I use Sidekick https://www.hybridministry.xyz/124 09add7a8-1440-4524-8ccf-34388a19df60 Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 124 Truly Interactive Sermons | How I use Sidekick full Nick Clason In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, discover how to create truly interactive sermons using Sidekick made by Download Youth Ministry to engage students like never before! Weโ€™ll explore practical ways to blend creativity with technology, making your youth ministry sermons more dynamic and memorable. Ideal for leaders aiming to elevate their hybrid ministry approach in their student ministry, this episode offers key strategies to transform your youth ministry. 18:15 no ๐ŸŽง BONUS WEEKLY PODCAST https://www.patreon.com/hybridministry ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ SIDEKICK SETUP GUIDE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/setup DESCRIPTION In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, discover how to create truly interactive sermons using Sidekick made by Download Youth Ministry to engage students like never before! Weโ€™ll explore practical ways to blend creativity with technology, making your youth ministry sermons more dynamic and memorable. 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We all know the struggle that all of us in ministry face with online church and streaming and the tension between will people come and be a part of our church? Or will they just simply listen to us online? I mean, hey, listen, give me a like if anytime in the last week you have listened to another pastor sermon or any podcast of any sort, religion or otherwise, or if you've listened to a worship song on Spotify, Apple Music or on YouTube. 00:00:29:00 - 00:00:51:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You see, the fact is we live now in a digital world where, content and sermons and music and worship music and all those things are available for our consumption at the touch and at the click of a finger. So how can we utilize technology in your ministry to make your programing in your service a little bit more hybrid? 00:00:51:19 - 00:01:11:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, hybrid I talked about this. It's the intersection of your in-person and your digital right. It's not forsaking one for the other, but it's simply finding a way to intersect them and to meld them together in the two. And we're going to look at my favorite feature in sidekick, which I believe makes you as hybrid as it can get in today's world. 00:01:11:13 - 00:01:31:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you are new to this playlist, we have been simply talking in the playlist linked up right here about different features of sidekick, and in the last video I kind of introduced sidekick and I showed some of the miscellaneous features, but there are three kind of core pillars and core, feature principles about sidekick that are just simply fantastic. 00:01:31:15 - 00:01:51:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the first one is the feature of vote. And you can pull your phone out and you can vote via QR codes. So that is what we're going to talk about today and in this video. But don't forget, if you're over here on YouTube that we do have chapters down at the bottom so that you can skip around, jump around to different sections and elements that pertain the most to you. 00:01:51:13 - 00:02:10:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I was talking to a friend of mine at a conference of several years back, and who's leading a workshop, and it was so well done and it was so creative. And frankly, it was pre-COVID, but it was before, and I was thinking like, man, this is more than just him getting up and talking. This is him actually engaging and interacting with his audience and drawing them in. 00:02:10:25 - 00:02:31:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I asked him, like, how do you do it? And he said, honestly, I challenged myself to try and use at least once per message, a feature from sidekick that I couldn't use with something simple like a PowerPoint or Pro presenter presentation software. And in our student ministry we have gone all in on sidekick. And so I want to share that with you in this playlist. 00:02:31:05 - 00:02:52:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I also want to let you know that launching on December 2nd, I am going to be launching a bonus weekly podcast simply called like what have I Done this week? And talking about all the ways that our youth ministry is trying to go hybrid, utilize digital, utilize YouTube, utilize sidekick. And so that is linked down below. Or you can scan the QR code that you see here on screen. 00:02:52:27 - 00:03:16:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That is going to give you that bonus weekly podcast. But there's also going to be other perks for Patreon members. And the cost, my friends, it's only a dollar per episode per week. And so jump in on that if you find that helpful. If you're looking to, turn the dial up on your creativity, on your hybrid, on your digital, I just want to simply walk you through what we are doing on a week by week basis. 00:03:16:19 - 00:03:39:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as you hear what I'm doing, hopefully that just gives you other creative ideas and listen. I would love if you then would also shoot back what you're doing, because anytime I hear what someone else is doing, it causes my brain and my juices to get going and get creative. But anyone who signs up before December 2nd, which is the official launch of the Patreon show, will get an exclusive free piece of merch. 00:03:39:04 - 00:03:58:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I will mail it to you and so that will be just my token of appreciation. So literally, that piece of merch will pay for itself for like six months worth of you being signed up for the, hybrid, Patreon experience. And so jump on and honestly, take my money. Can't wait to get you guys going on that. 00:03:58:16 - 00:04:18:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in this video, I want to talk about the different areas that you can use the voting in side. So you can include the voting slides in your pre-roll. So for example here on screen you'll see I'm going to click present. And we got a full screen window. And boom we're in our pre-roll slides. And these will rotate if you are not with us. 00:04:18:25 - 00:04:35:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Last video is a rotate every few seconds. We set that up ahead of time. You can go check out how to do that there. Rotating here pretty quickly. You can slow those down, but if you wanted to add here, to that, first of all, you got to get out of your presentation window and you got to end your presentation to make your edit. 00:04:35:09 - 00:04:54:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But then right here, if I just wanted to be like, all right, let's include a voting thing here. All you got to do is just click this voting option. Boom. And it kind of overtakes the design of the screen. And while you're here, you could use this example. Which super power would you choose? Or you could say, which kind of coffee shop is best? 00:04:54:20 - 00:05:23:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can get people debating on the old Dunkin versus Starbucks versus, main, what else is out there? Whatever, whatever it is, like your local home town hipster coffee vibe. And then over here, it's, the checkmarks on the side. These are indicating correct answers. So if you don't want there to be a correct answer, even though Dunkin in this particular, case is probably the correct answer, there is no correct answer. 00:05:23:27 - 00:05:42:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then over here you can, you can offer this like, hey, do you want to show the QR code? So sometimes people can, scan it ahead of time and just have it on their phone, and their phone becomes like a game remote, or you can leave it being shown here on screen. You can indicate and show the live results. 00:05:42:04 - 00:05:59:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can also reorder the, the votes like, the as the votes are coming in, whichever one's highest, we'll, we'll kind of jump to the top. You can either leave that or not. And then down here in the advanced settings, if you do have a correct answer, this this text here will be displayed on screen about whether it was correct or whether it wasn't. 00:05:59:18 - 00:06:18:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so now if we look back over here at our pre-roll slides, if we get this presentation up and going, we're going to make it a little smaller. So you just pretend that this little, window here is like your, it's your it's your your your screen. Right. It's your, projector screen. You drag this over or whatever. 00:06:18:21 - 00:06:38:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So now it's rotating through. Rotating through. Boom. Here's a poll question. You can engage and hybridize and interact with your audience during your pre-roll session there. So that's one of my favorite ways to use it. I have a poll question of every single week during our pre-roll. The the hack to that is you do got to keep the slides. 00:06:38:11 - 00:06:44:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They can't be going this fast. I make mine a 14 second rotation that gives people enough 00:06:44:07 - 00:06:59:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry time to read the question, realize it, go scan it and vote and maybe get it in. Because once this q QR code is off the screen, voting is closed. And so once it goes to the next slide, they can't vote anymore. So they kind of got to wait for it to rotate back around. 00:06:59:15 - 00:07:22:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Sometimes if I noticed people trying to do it though, what I will do is I will pull my phone up and I will just go back using the the phone remote kind of feature. Right. So that's one way that you can utilize and use it in your ministry. The pre-roll, voting option. You can also use it probably most commonly, probably the ways that we think about the most is with your games. 00:07:22:29 - 00:07:38:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so, I told you in the last video of our playlist linked right up here, if I haven't already done that. I have already done that. If you're watching here on YouTube, when you buy a game, you can, bring it in. And so we bought this game, finished the drawing in our youth ministry by my friend Derek. 00:07:38:26 - 00:07:55:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Print it. I'll drop the link to that game down below in the show notes. Go buy it, hook his family up, give him some royalties. He needs Christmas presents. But, this is what it looks like when I import it in. And so in this particular game, what you would do is I'll go ahead and show it to you here on screen. 00:07:55:26 - 00:08:17:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What you would do is you would, put one of these slides up. And a student would then have to finish the the drawing of this bus. Okay. So the way that we utilize this in our ministry was we actually probably use random name generator, which is going to be coming up here in one of these future videos. 00:08:17:11 - 00:08:38:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Put some students up on stage. We got four different students. And so then, we gave them this picture. We gave them a minute countdown timer on the screen, and then they drew they finished the drawing. Now, then we used a camera. We just plugged it in via our stage, portal. We use our video switcher and we switch to the camera view. 00:08:38:09 - 00:08:58:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So that up on the screen, everyone could see the finished drawing. So all four contestants were holding their drawing up. And then we said, scan this QR code. And so students would scan the QR code. Once they scanned it, once it was on their phone for good and they could vote. Whoo hoo! One person, one person, two person to person four. 00:08:58:27 - 00:09:28:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Based on that, that was a winner. You can utilize this for anything that has a subjective winner, right? Like, who do you think won this person? This person. You draw something, you build a sculpture you like, who was the loudest. You can vote it right. And once you get that QR code shown on screen and there's another thing you know, it's showing right here, or you click this little button down here in the sidekick window, show QR code and look, it makes it full and big and so everyone can gain access to it, no matter how big or how far away they are from the screen. 00:09:28:15 - 00:09:53:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Sometimes you kind of got to zoom in with your phone and stuff like that. So we use that to then kind of declare a winner. All right. Another game option. I want to show you this one that is, sitting in here if you already, a member or a subscriber of sidekick, which if you're not, let me remind you that for my podcast listeners only, you can try out co-leader, which will be what gives you access to sidekick is a presentation software. 00:09:53:29 - 00:10:19:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you have never signed up for anything on game before by using the code Hybrid Ministry ten, and you can get an access to Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. I will put the link down below at sidekick.tv/pricing for you to compare the differences, but they'll give you either 260 Collider credits versus 520 Collider credits, along with either 25 or 75 sidekick phone voting connections. 00:10:19:13 - 00:10:36:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So go check that out if that's something that you want to do, that's something that you want to learn. But if you sign up and you are a member, then in your completely free section here, I'm going to end this thing so that I can edit again. Right? So you'll notice controls change a little bit, but it's free thing. 00:10:36:18 - 00:10:56:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There's a game, that Josh Griffin did over at Mariner's called Zombie Apocalypse. So I hit that and, I imported it. And so here's what it is. So this is the instructions given to us by the sidekick team. It says, hey, watch Josh play this game and how he use it. Here's the instructions. Here's his supply list here to do all this thing. 00:10:56:26 - 00:11:16:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But so if we just ran this, this is another way to utilize the voting and play game. Make this small so that we can we can see everything. But. So here we are. We're playing this zombie apocalypse apocalypse game. And, you got the the plot and all these things, and this is like super next level, right? 00:11:16:25 - 00:11:37:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So this question here is which weapon will you choose? You let the students decide if they want a hammer, a lightsaber, a rubber chicken or the impossible shot bow. Okay. And then here it is. Boom. Zombie approach is good news. Live separation and anxiety and will only go to one area at a time. And one big group of survivors should split up to have a better chance of survival. 00:11:37:14 - 00:11:59:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Each one has an either A, the baptismal, the tech booth, the playground, or the welcome booth. And then you let them vote, okay, crowd votes. And then, on one area, it kills the contestants who are there in that area. Then here's some more instructions. And they even incorporated the wheel. And so as you go through this is a a choose your own kind of adventure of a game. 00:11:59:02 - 00:12:17:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's another really fun, really creative way to use and utilize sidekick to your advantage. And then there's one last way that I want to show you. And I'll go ahead I'll get it presented once again. And this is with, another game that's free in the free section, if you sign up again, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten. 00:12:17:05 - 00:12:32:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's called Where's the ball. And so in this particular game, this is the example of what I was kind of saying earlier about you can use your phone as a remote. And so this game is it got a right and wrong answer to it. Right. So like the the other ones were like more subjective. What do you think. 00:12:32:21 - 00:12:52:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What do you think this one is like? Here's a question. Here's the right answer. And so in this one your question that you must decide is is it a or is it be all right. And like I said in this particular case, you got to get that QR code live so that everyone can scan it on their phones, scans, skin scan, and then their phone becomes a remote. 00:12:52:18 - 00:13:12:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so now the question on their phone, A or B, their phone as they're holding it, it says is it A or is it B they vote I in the booth or your booth person clicks right here, this end voting thing. And then when you click reveal correct answer, it shows the slide with the correct answer. And then it also reveals it on everyone's phones at the same time. 00:13:12:19 - 00:13:28:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. It's pretty cool. Here we go to the next one. This is which of these pickleball, balls is the correct answer? They would vote A, B, C, or D, you'd end the voting, you'd reveal the correct answer. And of course, the answer is a the phone would say correct. If they got it wrong, it would say incorrect or whatever. 00:13:28:26 - 00:13:46:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You said the advanced settings to be ahead of time. And I can show you how that works, because this one is a little bit more tricky to actually set up. You don't just simply click right like in this one right here. If I added a new slide and I wanted them to vote on who's the drawing, I simply click voting and then boom, I right I right to answer like who won? 00:13:46:27 - 00:14:02:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I go down here and I do, you know, one, two three, four I unchecked the winner and we're off to the races and where's the ball. Like I said it's a little bit more intricate. So let me show you how it works. So you click edit Slide and this is voting right. So I clicked on that, I clicked Edit voting. 00:14:02:19 - 00:14:24:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if it weren't there I would turn into voting. And right here at the top you got this little toggle switch that says, is this an image based question when it's not now it went away. When I turn it back on, it's this image based question. So like I said, question side answer slide. And so if I remove this you'll see that I can upload the question slide. 00:14:24:05 - 00:14:42:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I can upload the answer slide. Now if you're just getting this free where's the ball. It's already included in sidekick. Go get it. Go play it. It's super fun. But if you're creating it yourself, you'll have to upload this from somewhere just on your computer, right? And you also upload the answer and then you're going to correct or select which answer is truly correct. 00:14:43:03 - 00:14:58:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then down here in the advanced settings you can either say correct or you can say sorry, or you can flame them like you're an idiot. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that if you want to keep your job, but hey, go for it. It's up to you, right? You can also add right? So here's where you would add or subtract answers. 00:14:58:01 - 00:15:13:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if there's three multiple choice or four multiple choice, or if you need to take one away and make it three again, that's where you do that. And then you just simply click which of the answers is correct. This is one of my favorite ways. We did this one time and again. This is the type of stuff you get on the Patreon. 00:15:14:00 - 00:15:28:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like I'll share this idea and maybe you can use it. We did like a pet day. We were celebrating National Kitten Day, and we had people texting via our text groups to this picture of your pet, and then we put pictures of pets on screens. Then we said, who do you think? Whose pet do you think this is? 00:15:28:17 - 00:15:46:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Is it you know Jake's? Is it Brie's? Is it Adam's or is it, Gracie's? And then they would just vote, like, it was a fun way to use our students and to get them and let them be kind of the heroes and the superstars of our day and of our our game. And so that was a fun way. 00:15:46:09 - 00:16:15:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we used this image based question kind of voting option here on sidekick. The last way, of course, that you can use it is very obviously in your messages. And so once again, this is an example of what I'll be going on going on over in our Patreon. But in this particular week, actually tonight I'm preaching on, masks, and I got just a couple of different questions, on that, I'm talking about being judgmental. 00:16:15:22 - 00:16:33:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, in that I'm asking questions like, you know, are you ever judgmental? Yes or no? Scan it and let me know. Another one I'm using, like, hey, so, finish the phrase sticks and stones. What? And then I put a bunch of different ridiculous answers. And of course, the answer's six. And stones may break my bones. 00:16:33:04 - 00:16:48:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But words will never hurt. Give me a like if you knew that. Because, that means you're old, like me, and you're, in your 30s as a youth pastor. Give me a sub. If not, because that means that you're younger and that means that you're actually on YouTube. And so give me subs so that you will see some of these future videos. 00:16:48:02 - 00:17:08:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But the point is, previously before sidekick, I would just say raise your hand if you know what this phrase means. Sticks and stones may break my bones, and that's an engagement. But now, in a way, to go hybrid, taking my in-person and my digital and putting at the intersection of my students phones, I say, hey, scan this QR code and finish this phrase. 00:17:08:09 - 00:17:30:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And again, like my friend Anthony said back at that conference, I challenged myself to try and use sidekick in my message as I create at least one time per week. And so voting is a fantastic way to to utilize that and to use that. Now the another really fun custom way that sidekick, has to offer this was just voting. 00:17:30:13 - 00:17:48:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The last video was just some of its miscellaneous features. The next video, which is going to be linked right here on screen. You can see it if you're watching on YouTube. Go ahead and tap that and go check that out. 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00:00 Phone Voting in Sidekick
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07:13 #1 Game Style
09:39 #2 Game Style
12:10 #3 Game Style
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:28:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Pastor. We all know the struggle that all of us in ministry face with online church and streaming and the tension between will people come and be a part of our church? Or will they just simply listen to us online? I mean, hey, listen, give me a like if anytime in the last week you have listened to another pastor sermon or any podcast of any sort, religion or otherwise, or if you've listened to a worship song on Spotify, Apple Music or on YouTube.

00:00:29:00 - 00:00:51:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You see, the fact is we live now in a digital world where, content and sermons and music and worship music and all those things are available for our consumption at the touch and at the click of a finger. So how can we utilize technology in your ministry to make your programing in your service a little bit more hybrid?

00:00:51:19 - 00:01:11:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, hybrid I talked about this. It's the intersection of your in-person and your digital right. It's not forsaking one for the other, but it's simply finding a way to intersect them and to meld them together in the two. And we're going to look at my favorite feature in sidekick, which I believe makes you as hybrid as it can get in today's world.

00:01:11:13 - 00:01:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you are new to this playlist, we have been simply talking in the playlist linked up right here about different features of sidekick, and in the last video I kind of introduced sidekick and I showed some of the miscellaneous features, but there are three kind of core pillars and core, feature principles about sidekick that are just simply fantastic.

00:01:31:15 - 00:01:51:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the first one is the feature of vote. And you can pull your phone out and you can vote via QR codes. So that is what we're going to talk about today and in this video. But don't forget, if you're over here on YouTube that we do have chapters down at the bottom so that you can skip around, jump around to different sections and elements that pertain the most to you.

00:01:51:13 - 00:02:10:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I was talking to a friend of mine at a conference of several years back, and who's leading a workshop, and it was so well done and it was so creative. And frankly, it was pre-COVID, but it was before, and I was thinking like, man, this is more than just him getting up and talking. This is him actually engaging and interacting with his audience and drawing them in.

00:02:10:25 - 00:02:31:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I asked him, like, how do you do it? And he said, honestly, I challenged myself to try and use at least once per message, a feature from sidekick that I couldn't use with something simple like a PowerPoint or Pro presenter presentation software. And in our student ministry we have gone all in on sidekick. And so I want to share that with you in this playlist.

00:02:31:05 - 00:02:52:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I also want to let you know that launching on December 2nd, I am going to be launching a bonus weekly podcast simply called like what have I Done this week? And talking about all the ways that our youth ministry is trying to go hybrid, utilize digital, utilize YouTube, utilize sidekick. And so that is linked down below. Or you can scan the QR code that you see here on screen.

00:02:52:27 - 00:03:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That is going to give you that bonus weekly podcast. But there's also going to be other perks for Patreon members. And the cost, my friends, it's only a dollar per episode per week. And so jump in on that if you find that helpful. If you're looking to, turn the dial up on your creativity, on your hybrid, on your digital, I just want to simply walk you through what we are doing on a week by week basis.

00:03:16:19 - 00:03:39:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as you hear what I'm doing, hopefully that just gives you other creative ideas and listen. I would love if you then would also shoot back what you're doing, because anytime I hear what someone else is doing, it causes my brain and my juices to get going and get creative. But anyone who signs up before December 2nd, which is the official launch of the Patreon show, will get an exclusive free piece of merch.

00:03:39:04 - 00:03:58:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I will mail it to you and so that will be just my token of appreciation. So literally, that piece of merch will pay for itself for like six months worth of you being signed up for the, hybrid, Patreon experience. And so jump on and honestly, take my money. Can't wait to get you guys going on that.

00:03:58:16 - 00:04:18:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video, I want to talk about the different areas that you can use the voting in side. So you can include the voting slides in your pre-roll. So for example here on screen you'll see I'm going to click present. And we got a full screen window. And boom we're in our pre-roll slides. And these will rotate if you are not with us.

00:04:18:25 - 00:04:35:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Last video is a rotate every few seconds. We set that up ahead of time. You can go check out how to do that there. Rotating here pretty quickly. You can slow those down, but if you wanted to add here, to that, first of all, you got to get out of your presentation window and you got to end your presentation to make your edit.

00:04:35:09 - 00:04:54:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But then right here, if I just wanted to be like, all right, let's include a voting thing here. All you got to do is just click this voting option. Boom. And it kind of overtakes the design of the screen. And while you're here, you could use this example. Which super power would you choose? Or you could say, which kind of coffee shop is best?

00:04:54:20 - 00:05:23:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can get people debating on the old Dunkin versus Starbucks versus, main, what else is out there? Whatever, whatever it is, like your local home town hipster coffee vibe. And then over here, it's, the checkmarks on the side. These are indicating correct answers. So if you don't want there to be a correct answer, even though Dunkin in this particular, case is probably the correct answer, there is no correct answer.

00:05:23:27 - 00:05:42:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then over here you can, you can offer this like, hey, do you want to show the QR code? So sometimes people can, scan it ahead of time and just have it on their phone, and their phone becomes like a game remote, or you can leave it being shown here on screen. You can indicate and show the live results.

00:05:42:04 - 00:05:59:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can also reorder the, the votes like, the as the votes are coming in, whichever one's highest, we'll, we'll kind of jump to the top. You can either leave that or not. And then down here in the advanced settings, if you do have a correct answer, this this text here will be displayed on screen about whether it was correct or whether it wasn't.

00:05:59:18 - 00:06:18:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now if we look back over here at our pre-roll slides, if we get this presentation up and going, we're going to make it a little smaller. So you just pretend that this little, window here is like your, it's your it's your your your screen. Right. It's your, projector screen. You drag this over or whatever.

00:06:18:21 - 00:06:38:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So now it's rotating through. Rotating through. Boom. Here's a poll question. You can engage and hybridize and interact with your audience during your pre-roll session there. So that's one of my favorite ways to use it. I have a poll question of every single week during our pre-roll. The the hack to that is you do got to keep the slides.

00:06:38:11 - 00:06:44:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They can't be going this fast. I make mine a 14 second rotation that gives people enough

00:06:44:07 - 00:06:59:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
time to read the question, realize it, go scan it and vote and maybe get it in. Because once this q QR code is off the screen, voting is closed. And so once it goes to the next slide, they can't vote anymore. So they kind of got to wait for it to rotate back around.

00:06:59:15 - 00:07:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Sometimes if I noticed people trying to do it though, what I will do is I will pull my phone up and I will just go back using the the phone remote kind of feature. Right. So that's one way that you can utilize and use it in your ministry. The pre-roll, voting option. You can also use it probably most commonly, probably the ways that we think about the most is with your games.

00:07:22:29 - 00:07:38:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so, I told you in the last video of our playlist linked right up here, if I haven't already done that. I have already done that. If you're watching here on YouTube, when you buy a game, you can, bring it in. And so we bought this game, finished the drawing in our youth ministry by my friend Derek.

00:07:38:26 - 00:07:55:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Print it. I'll drop the link to that game down below in the show notes. Go buy it, hook his family up, give him some royalties. He needs Christmas presents. But, this is what it looks like when I import it in. And so in this particular game, what you would do is I'll go ahead and show it to you here on screen.

00:07:55:26 - 00:08:17:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What you would do is you would, put one of these slides up. And a student would then have to finish the the drawing of this bus. Okay. So the way that we utilize this in our ministry was we actually probably use random name generator, which is going to be coming up here in one of these future videos.

00:08:17:11 - 00:08:38:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Put some students up on stage. We got four different students. And so then, we gave them this picture. We gave them a minute countdown timer on the screen, and then they drew they finished the drawing. Now, then we used a camera. We just plugged it in via our stage, portal. We use our video switcher and we switch to the camera view.

00:08:38:09 - 00:08:58:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So that up on the screen, everyone could see the finished drawing. So all four contestants were holding their drawing up. And then we said, scan this QR code. And so students would scan the QR code. Once they scanned it, once it was on their phone for good and they could vote. Whoo hoo! One person, one person, two person to person four.

00:08:58:27 - 00:09:28:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Based on that, that was a winner. You can utilize this for anything that has a subjective winner, right? Like, who do you think won this person? This person. You draw something, you build a sculpture you like, who was the loudest. You can vote it right. And once you get that QR code shown on screen and there's another thing you know, it's showing right here, or you click this little button down here in the sidekick window, show QR code and look, it makes it full and big and so everyone can gain access to it, no matter how big or how far away they are from the screen.

00:09:28:15 - 00:09:53:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Sometimes you kind of got to zoom in with your phone and stuff like that. So we use that to then kind of declare a winner. All right. Another game option. I want to show you this one that is, sitting in here if you already, a member or a subscriber of sidekick, which if you're not, let me remind you that for my podcast listeners only, you can try out co-leader, which will be what gives you access to sidekick is a presentation software.

00:09:53:29 - 00:10:19:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you have never signed up for anything on game before by using the code Hybrid Ministry ten, and you can get an access to Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. I will put the link down below at sidekick.tv/pricing for you to compare the differences, but they'll give you either 260 Collider credits versus 520 Collider credits, along with either 25 or 75 sidekick phone voting connections.

00:10:19:13 - 00:10:36:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So go check that out if that's something that you want to do, that's something that you want to learn. But if you sign up and you are a member, then in your completely free section here, I'm going to end this thing so that I can edit again. Right? So you'll notice controls change a little bit, but it's free thing.

00:10:36:18 - 00:10:56:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's a game, that Josh Griffin did over at Mariner's called Zombie Apocalypse. So I hit that and, I imported it. And so here's what it is. So this is the instructions given to us by the sidekick team. It says, hey, watch Josh play this game and how he use it. Here's the instructions. Here's his supply list here to do all this thing.

00:10:56:26 - 00:11:16:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But so if we just ran this, this is another way to utilize the voting and play game. Make this small so that we can we can see everything. But. So here we are. We're playing this zombie apocalypse apocalypse game. And, you got the the plot and all these things, and this is like super next level, right?

00:11:16:25 - 00:11:37:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So this question here is which weapon will you choose? You let the students decide if they want a hammer, a lightsaber, a rubber chicken or the impossible shot bow. Okay. And then here it is. Boom. Zombie approach is good news. Live separation and anxiety and will only go to one area at a time. And one big group of survivors should split up to have a better chance of survival.

00:11:37:14 - 00:11:59:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Each one has an either A, the baptismal, the tech booth, the playground, or the welcome booth. And then you let them vote, okay, crowd votes. And then, on one area, it kills the contestants who are there in that area. Then here's some more instructions. And they even incorporated the wheel. And so as you go through this is a a choose your own kind of adventure of a game.

00:11:59:02 - 00:12:17:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's another really fun, really creative way to use and utilize sidekick to your advantage. And then there's one last way that I want to show you. And I'll go ahead I'll get it presented once again. And this is with, another game that's free in the free section, if you sign up again, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten.

00:12:17:05 - 00:12:32:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's called Where's the ball. And so in this particular game, this is the example of what I was kind of saying earlier about you can use your phone as a remote. And so this game is it got a right and wrong answer to it. Right. So like the the other ones were like more subjective. What do you think.

00:12:32:21 - 00:12:52:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What do you think this one is like? Here's a question. Here's the right answer. And so in this one your question that you must decide is is it a or is it be all right. And like I said in this particular case, you got to get that QR code live so that everyone can scan it on their phones, scans, skin scan, and then their phone becomes a remote.

00:12:52:18 - 00:13:12:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now the question on their phone, A or B, their phone as they're holding it, it says is it A or is it B they vote I in the booth or your booth person clicks right here, this end voting thing. And then when you click reveal correct answer, it shows the slide with the correct answer. And then it also reveals it on everyone's phones at the same time.

00:13:12:19 - 00:13:28:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. It's pretty cool. Here we go to the next one. This is which of these pickleball, balls is the correct answer? They would vote A, B, C, or D, you'd end the voting, you'd reveal the correct answer. And of course, the answer is a the phone would say correct. If they got it wrong, it would say incorrect or whatever.

00:13:28:26 - 00:13:46:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You said the advanced settings to be ahead of time. And I can show you how that works, because this one is a little bit more tricky to actually set up. You don't just simply click right like in this one right here. If I added a new slide and I wanted them to vote on who's the drawing, I simply click voting and then boom, I right I right to answer like who won?

00:13:46:27 - 00:14:02:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I go down here and I do, you know, one, two three, four I unchecked the winner and we're off to the races and where's the ball. Like I said it's a little bit more intricate. So let me show you how it works. So you click edit Slide and this is voting right. So I clicked on that, I clicked Edit voting.

00:14:02:19 - 00:14:24:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if it weren't there I would turn into voting. And right here at the top you got this little toggle switch that says, is this an image based question when it's not now it went away. When I turn it back on, it's this image based question. So like I said, question side answer slide. And so if I remove this you'll see that I can upload the question slide.

00:14:24:05 - 00:14:42:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I can upload the answer slide. Now if you're just getting this free where's the ball. It's already included in sidekick. Go get it. Go play it. It's super fun. But if you're creating it yourself, you'll have to upload this from somewhere just on your computer, right? And you also upload the answer and then you're going to correct or select which answer is truly correct.

00:14:43:03 - 00:14:58:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then down here in the advanced settings you can either say correct or you can say sorry, or you can flame them like you're an idiot. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that if you want to keep your job, but hey, go for it. It's up to you, right? You can also add right? So here's where you would add or subtract answers.

00:14:58:01 - 00:15:13:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if there's three multiple choice or four multiple choice, or if you need to take one away and make it three again, that's where you do that. And then you just simply click which of the answers is correct. This is one of my favorite ways. We did this one time and again. This is the type of stuff you get on the Patreon.

00:15:14:00 - 00:15:28:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like I'll share this idea and maybe you can use it. We did like a pet day. We were celebrating National Kitten Day, and we had people texting via our text groups to this picture of your pet, and then we put pictures of pets on screens. Then we said, who do you think? Whose pet do you think this is?

00:15:28:17 - 00:15:46:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is it you know Jake's? Is it Brie's? Is it Adam's or is it, Gracie's? And then they would just vote, like, it was a fun way to use our students and to get them and let them be kind of the heroes and the superstars of our day and of our our game. And so that was a fun way.

00:15:46:09 - 00:16:15:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we used this image based question kind of voting option here on sidekick. The last way, of course, that you can use it is very obviously in your messages. And so once again, this is an example of what I'll be going on going on over in our Patreon. But in this particular week, actually tonight I'm preaching on, masks, and I got just a couple of different questions, on that, I'm talking about being judgmental.

00:16:15:22 - 00:16:33:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, in that I'm asking questions like, you know, are you ever judgmental? Yes or no? Scan it and let me know. Another one I'm using, like, hey, so, finish the phrase sticks and stones. What? And then I put a bunch of different ridiculous answers. And of course, the answer's six. And stones may break my bones.

00:16:33:04 - 00:16:48:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But words will never hurt. Give me a like if you knew that. Because, that means you're old, like me, and you're, in your 30s as a youth pastor. Give me a sub. If not, because that means that you're younger and that means that you're actually on YouTube. And so give me subs so that you will see some of these future videos.

00:16:48:02 - 00:17:08:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the point is, previously before sidekick, I would just say raise your hand if you know what this phrase means. Sticks and stones may break my bones, and that's an engagement. But now, in a way, to go hybrid, taking my in-person and my digital and putting at the intersection of my students phones, I say, hey, scan this QR code and finish this phrase.

00:17:08:09 - 00:17:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And again, like my friend Anthony said back at that conference, I challenged myself to try and use sidekick in my message as I create at least one time per week. And so voting is a fantastic way to to utilize that and to use that. Now the another really fun custom way that sidekick, has to offer this was just voting.

00:17:30:13 - 00:17:48:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last video was just some of its miscellaneous features. The next video, which is going to be linked right here on screen. You can see it if you're watching on YouTube. Go ahead and tap that and go check that out. Is the random wheel and how you can customize it and generate it with customized, sounds and punishments and all sorts of different things.

00:17:48:09 - 00:18:06:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I want to chat through different creative ways. You can use that, perhaps in pre-roll and games, in messages and announcements, all sorts of different ways. I can't wait for you to see that. I hope that this helps you and your youth. Minutes to become more engaging, more interactive. Don't forget that's all at the Patreon is going to be about.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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12:10 #3 Game Style
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:28:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Pastor. We all know the struggle that all of us in ministry face with online church and streaming and the tension between will people come and be a part of our church? Or will they just simply listen to us online? I mean, hey, listen, give me a like if anytime in the last week you have listened to another pastor sermon or any podcast of any sort, religion or otherwise, or if you've listened to a worship song on Spotify, Apple Music or on YouTube.

00:00:29:00 - 00:00:51:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You see, the fact is we live now in a digital world where, content and sermons and music and worship music and all those things are available for our consumption at the touch and at the click of a finger. So how can we utilize technology in your ministry to make your programing in your service a little bit more hybrid?

00:00:51:19 - 00:01:11:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know, hybrid I talked about this. It's the intersection of your in-person and your digital right. It's not forsaking one for the other, but it's simply finding a way to intersect them and to meld them together in the two. And we're going to look at my favorite feature in sidekick, which I believe makes you as hybrid as it can get in today's world.

00:01:11:13 - 00:01:31:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you are new to this playlist, we have been simply talking in the playlist linked up right here about different features of sidekick, and in the last video I kind of introduced sidekick and I showed some of the miscellaneous features, but there are three kind of core pillars and core, feature principles about sidekick that are just simply fantastic.

00:01:31:15 - 00:01:51:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the first one is the feature of vote. And you can pull your phone out and you can vote via QR codes. So that is what we're going to talk about today and in this video. But don't forget, if you're over here on YouTube that we do have chapters down at the bottom so that you can skip around, jump around to different sections and elements that pertain the most to you.

00:01:51:13 - 00:02:10:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I was talking to a friend of mine at a conference of several years back, and who's leading a workshop, and it was so well done and it was so creative. And frankly, it was pre-COVID, but it was before, and I was thinking like, man, this is more than just him getting up and talking. This is him actually engaging and interacting with his audience and drawing them in.

00:02:10:25 - 00:02:31:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I asked him, like, how do you do it? And he said, honestly, I challenged myself to try and use at least once per message, a feature from sidekick that I couldn't use with something simple like a PowerPoint or Pro presenter presentation software. And in our student ministry we have gone all in on sidekick. And so I want to share that with you in this playlist.

00:02:31:05 - 00:02:52:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I also want to let you know that launching on December 2nd, I am going to be launching a bonus weekly podcast simply called like what have I Done this week? And talking about all the ways that our youth ministry is trying to go hybrid, utilize digital, utilize YouTube, utilize sidekick. And so that is linked down below. Or you can scan the QR code that you see here on screen.

00:02:52:27 - 00:03:16:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That is going to give you that bonus weekly podcast. But there's also going to be other perks for Patreon members. And the cost, my friends, it's only a dollar per episode per week. And so jump in on that if you find that helpful. If you're looking to, turn the dial up on your creativity, on your hybrid, on your digital, I just want to simply walk you through what we are doing on a week by week basis.

00:03:16:19 - 00:03:39:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And as you hear what I'm doing, hopefully that just gives you other creative ideas and listen. I would love if you then would also shoot back what you're doing, because anytime I hear what someone else is doing, it causes my brain and my juices to get going and get creative. But anyone who signs up before December 2nd, which is the official launch of the Patreon show, will get an exclusive free piece of merch.

00:03:39:04 - 00:03:58:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I will mail it to you and so that will be just my token of appreciation. So literally, that piece of merch will pay for itself for like six months worth of you being signed up for the, hybrid, Patreon experience. And so jump on and honestly, take my money. Can't wait to get you guys going on that.

00:03:58:16 - 00:04:18:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video, I want to talk about the different areas that you can use the voting in side. So you can include the voting slides in your pre-roll. So for example here on screen you'll see I'm going to click present. And we got a full screen window. And boom we're in our pre-roll slides. And these will rotate if you are not with us.

00:04:18:25 - 00:04:35:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Last video is a rotate every few seconds. We set that up ahead of time. You can go check out how to do that there. Rotating here pretty quickly. You can slow those down, but if you wanted to add here, to that, first of all, you got to get out of your presentation window and you got to end your presentation to make your edit.

00:04:35:09 - 00:04:54:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But then right here, if I just wanted to be like, all right, let's include a voting thing here. All you got to do is just click this voting option. Boom. And it kind of overtakes the design of the screen. And while you're here, you could use this example. Which super power would you choose? Or you could say, which kind of coffee shop is best?

00:04:54:20 - 00:05:23:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you can get people debating on the old Dunkin versus Starbucks versus, main, what else is out there? Whatever, whatever it is, like your local home town hipster coffee vibe. And then over here, it's, the checkmarks on the side. These are indicating correct answers. So if you don't want there to be a correct answer, even though Dunkin in this particular, case is probably the correct answer, there is no correct answer.

00:05:23:27 - 00:05:42:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then over here you can, you can offer this like, hey, do you want to show the QR code? So sometimes people can, scan it ahead of time and just have it on their phone, and their phone becomes like a game remote, or you can leave it being shown here on screen. You can indicate and show the live results.

00:05:42:04 - 00:05:59:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can also reorder the, the votes like, the as the votes are coming in, whichever one's highest, we'll, we'll kind of jump to the top. You can either leave that or not. And then down here in the advanced settings, if you do have a correct answer, this this text here will be displayed on screen about whether it was correct or whether it wasn't.

00:05:59:18 - 00:06:18:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now if we look back over here at our pre-roll slides, if we get this presentation up and going, we're going to make it a little smaller. So you just pretend that this little, window here is like your, it's your it's your your your screen. Right. It's your, projector screen. You drag this over or whatever.

00:06:18:21 - 00:06:38:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So now it's rotating through. Rotating through. Boom. Here's a poll question. You can engage and hybridize and interact with your audience during your pre-roll session there. So that's one of my favorite ways to use it. I have a poll question of every single week during our pre-roll. The the hack to that is you do got to keep the slides.

00:06:38:11 - 00:06:44:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They can't be going this fast. I make mine a 14 second rotation that gives people enough

00:06:44:07 - 00:06:59:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
time to read the question, realize it, go scan it and vote and maybe get it in. Because once this q QR code is off the screen, voting is closed. And so once it goes to the next slide, they can't vote anymore. So they kind of got to wait for it to rotate back around.

00:06:59:15 - 00:07:22:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Sometimes if I noticed people trying to do it though, what I will do is I will pull my phone up and I will just go back using the the phone remote kind of feature. Right. So that's one way that you can utilize and use it in your ministry. The pre-roll, voting option. You can also use it probably most commonly, probably the ways that we think about the most is with your games.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so, I told you in the last video of our playlist linked right up here, if I haven't already done that. I have already done that. If you're watching here on YouTube, when you buy a game, you can, bring it in. And so we bought this game, finished the drawing in our youth ministry by my friend Derek.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Print it. I'll drop the link to that game down below in the show notes. Go buy it, hook his family up, give him some royalties. He needs Christmas presents. But, this is what it looks like when I import it in. And so in this particular game, what you would do is I'll go ahead and show it to you here on screen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What you would do is you would, put one of these slides up. And a student would then have to finish the the drawing of this bus. Okay. So the way that we utilize this in our ministry was we actually probably use random name generator, which is going to be coming up here in one of these future videos.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Put some students up on stage. We got four different students. And so then, we gave them this picture. We gave them a minute countdown timer on the screen, and then they drew they finished the drawing. Now, then we used a camera. We just plugged it in via our stage, portal. We use our video switcher and we switch to the camera view.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So that up on the screen, everyone could see the finished drawing. So all four contestants were holding their drawing up. And then we said, scan this QR code. And so students would scan the QR code. Once they scanned it, once it was on their phone for good and they could vote. Whoo hoo! One person, one person, two person to person four.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Based on that, that was a winner. You can utilize this for anything that has a subjective winner, right? Like, who do you think won this person? This person. You draw something, you build a sculpture you like, who was the loudest. You can vote it right. And once you get that QR code shown on screen and there's another thing you know, it's showing right here, or you click this little button down here in the sidekick window, show QR code and look, it makes it full and big and so everyone can gain access to it, no matter how big or how far away they are from the screen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Sometimes you kind of got to zoom in with your phone and stuff like that. So we use that to then kind of declare a winner. All right. Another game option. I want to show you this one that is, sitting in here if you already, a member or a subscriber of sidekick, which if you're not, let me remind you that for my podcast listeners only, you can try out co-leader, which will be what gives you access to sidekick is a presentation software.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you have never signed up for anything on game before by using the code Hybrid Ministry ten, and you can get an access to Premium or Premium Plus of Collider. I will put the link down below at sidekick.tv/pricing for you to compare the differences, but they'll give you either 260 Collider credits versus 520 Collider credits, along with either 25 or 75 sidekick phone voting connections.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So go check that out if that's something that you want to do, that's something that you want to learn. But if you sign up and you are a member, then in your completely free section here, I'm going to end this thing so that I can edit again. Right? So you'll notice controls change a little bit, but it's free thing.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's a game, that Josh Griffin did over at Mariner's called Zombie Apocalypse. So I hit that and, I imported it. And so here's what it is. So this is the instructions given to us by the sidekick team. It says, hey, watch Josh play this game and how he use it. Here's the instructions. Here's his supply list here to do all this thing.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But so if we just ran this, this is another way to utilize the voting and play game. Make this small so that we can we can see everything. But. So here we are. We're playing this zombie apocalypse apocalypse game. And, you got the the plot and all these things, and this is like super next level, right?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So this question here is which weapon will you choose? You let the students decide if they want a hammer, a lightsaber, a rubber chicken or the impossible shot bow. Okay. And then here it is. Boom. Zombie approach is good news. Live separation and anxiety and will only go to one area at a time. And one big group of survivors should split up to have a better chance of survival.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Each one has an either A, the baptismal, the tech booth, the playground, or the welcome booth. And then you let them vote, okay, crowd votes. And then, on one area, it kills the contestants who are there in that area. Then here's some more instructions. And they even incorporated the wheel. And so as you go through this is a a choose your own kind of adventure of a game.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's another really fun, really creative way to use and utilize sidekick to your advantage. And then there's one last way that I want to show you. And I'll go ahead I'll get it presented once again. And this is with, another game that's free in the free section, if you sign up again, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's called Where's the ball. And so in this particular game, this is the example of what I was kind of saying earlier about you can use your phone as a remote. And so this game is it got a right and wrong answer to it. Right. So like the the other ones were like more subjective. What do you think.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What do you think this one is like? Here's a question. Here's the right answer. And so in this one your question that you must decide is is it a or is it be all right. And like I said in this particular case, you got to get that QR code live so that everyone can scan it on their phones, scans, skin scan, and then their phone becomes a remote.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now the question on their phone, A or B, their phone as they're holding it, it says is it A or is it B they vote I in the booth or your booth person clicks right here, this end voting thing. And then when you click reveal correct answer, it shows the slide with the correct answer. And then it also reveals it on everyone's phones at the same time.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All right. It's pretty cool. Here we go to the next one. This is which of these pickleball, balls is the correct answer? They would vote A, B, C, or D, you'd end the voting, you'd reveal the correct answer. And of course, the answer is a the phone would say correct. If they got it wrong, it would say incorrect or whatever.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You said the advanced settings to be ahead of time. And I can show you how that works, because this one is a little bit more tricky to actually set up. You don't just simply click right like in this one right here. If I added a new slide and I wanted them to vote on who's the drawing, I simply click voting and then boom, I right I right to answer like who won?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I go down here and I do, you know, one, two three, four I unchecked the winner and we're off to the races and where's the ball. Like I said it's a little bit more intricate. So let me show you how it works. So you click edit Slide and this is voting right. So I clicked on that, I clicked Edit voting.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if it weren't there I would turn into voting. And right here at the top you got this little toggle switch that says, is this an image based question when it's not now it went away. When I turn it back on, it's this image based question. So like I said, question side answer slide. And so if I remove this you'll see that I can upload the question slide.

00:14:24:05 - 00:14:42:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I can upload the answer slide. Now if you're just getting this free where's the ball. It's already included in sidekick. Go get it. Go play it. It's super fun. But if you're creating it yourself, you'll have to upload this from somewhere just on your computer, right? And you also upload the answer and then you're going to correct or select which answer is truly correct.

00:14:43:03 - 00:14:58:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then down here in the advanced settings you can either say correct or you can say sorry, or you can flame them like you're an idiot. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that if you want to keep your job, but hey, go for it. It's up to you, right? You can also add right? So here's where you would add or subtract answers.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if there's three multiple choice or four multiple choice, or if you need to take one away and make it three again, that's where you do that. And then you just simply click which of the answers is correct. This is one of my favorite ways. We did this one time and again. This is the type of stuff you get on the Patreon.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like I'll share this idea and maybe you can use it. We did like a pet day. We were celebrating National Kitten Day, and we had people texting via our text groups to this picture of your pet, and then we put pictures of pets on screens. Then we said, who do you think? Whose pet do you think this is?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is it you know Jake's? Is it Brie's? Is it Adam's or is it, Gracie's? And then they would just vote, like, it was a fun way to use our students and to get them and let them be kind of the heroes and the superstars of our day and of our our game. And so that was a fun way.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And we used this image based question kind of voting option here on sidekick. The last way, of course, that you can use it is very obviously in your messages. And so once again, this is an example of what I'll be going on going on over in our Patreon. But in this particular week, actually tonight I'm preaching on, masks, and I got just a couple of different questions, on that, I'm talking about being judgmental.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, in that I'm asking questions like, you know, are you ever judgmental? Yes or no? Scan it and let me know. Another one I'm using, like, hey, so, finish the phrase sticks and stones. What? And then I put a bunch of different ridiculous answers. And of course, the answer's six. And stones may break my bones.

00:16:33:04 - 00:16:48:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But words will never hurt. Give me a like if you knew that. Because, that means you're old, like me, and you're, in your 30s as a youth pastor. Give me a sub. If not, because that means that you're younger and that means that you're actually on YouTube. And so give me subs so that you will see some of these future videos.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But the point is, previously before sidekick, I would just say raise your hand if you know what this phrase means. Sticks and stones may break my bones, and that's an engagement. But now, in a way, to go hybrid, taking my in-person and my digital and putting at the intersection of my students phones, I say, hey, scan this QR code and finish this phrase.

00:17:08:09 - 00:17:30:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And again, like my friend Anthony said back at that conference, I challenged myself to try and use sidekick in my message as I create at least one time per week. And so voting is a fantastic way to to utilize that and to use that. Now the another really fun custom way that sidekick, has to offer this was just voting.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The last video was just some of its miscellaneous features. The next video, which is going to be linked right here on screen. You can see it if you're watching on YouTube. Go ahead and tap that and go check that out. Is the random wheel and how you can customize it and generate it with customized, sounds and punishments and all sorts of different things.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I want to chat through different creative ways. You can use that, perhaps in pre-roll and games, in messages and announcements, all sorts of different ways. I can't wait for you to see that. I hope that this helps you and your youth. Minutes to become more engaging, more interactive. Don't forget that's all at the Patreon is going to be about.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 123: LIVE Sidekick Demo and Review! Youth Ministry Turned Interactive https://www.hybridministry.xyz/123 8b9a811b-d7a2-4708-951d-ed02b9f41afb Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 123 LIVE Sidekick Demo and Review! Youth Ministry Turned Interactive full Nick Clason In this episode of the Hybrid Ministry Show, weโ€™re diving into a live demo and review of Sidekick โ€“ a powerful tool for youth ministry and interactive programming! See how Sidekick can transform your youth group experience by adding a dynamic, creative edge to your student ministry. 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What if I told you 00;00;04;17 - 00;00;12;28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that there was a better presentation software out there than pro presenter PowerPoint, or whatever else you use? 00;00;12;28 - 00;00;30;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It sounded too good to be true. Well, listen, it is made by youth pastors and is made for youth pastors. Give me a like if you think you already know what I'm talking about, because I am talking about my favorite presentation software and it's called sidekick. 00;00;30;19 - 00;01;01;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And here's why. This is great, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, because it is made for interaction and it is made for customization. But there is so much more. And in this video and in this upcoming playlist, I want to share with you what those features are. This video in particular, I'm going to drop my top eight different miscellaneous features because everyone knows that sidekick has things like the voting and the wheel picker and the name picker. 00;01;01;29 - 00;01;23;20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But in this video, I'm going to share the other things that sidekick has to offer besides those obvious kind of milestone landmark, features built in woven into the presentation software. And if you're here on YouTube, as always, don't forget that there are chapters listed down below at the bottom so that you can jump ahead to what matters most to you. 00;01;23;20 - 00;01;50;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But here's the thing in the context in which I'm currently working, we are all in on sidekick. What we've done is we have two computers now, one for pro presenter and one for sidekick. Because if you know, if you've used sidekick in the new beta version at all, you know that it runs through Google Chrome and in the previous versions, what you could do with running a software like, pro presenters, you'd have pro presenter up and running and then back behind it. 00;01;50;02 - 00;02;19;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You could have the sidekick window and you could just toggle off the display. But now Chrome is actually more powerful than Pro Presenter. Most people I tell that they find that actually incredibly surprising. And so as a result of that, it makes switching between Chrome and Pro Presenter a little bit tricky. And so the way in which we have sort of circumvented or navigated that is we have just built two computers and we have a black magic video switcher where we can go from computer one to computer two. 00;02;19;09 - 00;02;44;24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And essentially we use Pro Presenter for just worship and lyrics, and then we use sidekick for every thing else. You know, I'm actually launching here during the course of this playlist, starting officially on December 2nd, a brand new bonus podcast. I'm going to be releasing it one time per week, going to be over on my Patreon page. And listen, Patreon, takes a little bit of a fee. 00;02;45;01 - 00;03;10;21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so the reason that I'm doing that is to just, invest back into the podcast. But I am only charging $4 per month. I think it is a small, modest fee. Essentially it is going to break down to $1 per week per additional bonus. Podcast. What I want to do with that podcast, I just simply want to share with you the creative ways that we are running our youth ministry programing and how we're making it hybrid. 00;03;10;21 - 00;03;35;24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you want more hybrid information, I would love to share that with you. This podcast and this YouTube video is meant to sort of like give a big broad strokes overview of what Hybrid Ministry is. But on my Patreon page, what I want to do is I just want to share an extra bonus podcast and simply chat through everything that I've done for the week and talk through the ways that we've tried to make it creative and talk through the ways in which we have tried to sort of hybridize our ministry. 00;03;35;24 - 00;04;01;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that podcast is starting December 2nd. And for everyone who signs up during now, if you're watching live through December 2nd, I am going to send and mail you an exclusive free piece of merch. For all who sign up between now and December 2nd. Like I said, and it basically breaks down to $1 a month. So, either scan the QR code that you see here on screen or hit the link down below in the description. 00;04;01;29 - 00;04;25;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But let's dive in to my eight favorite features of sidekick. Let's check it out. So my first favorite feature of sidekick is its co-leader integration. And if you're watching here on screen, you might be surprised to know that you're not looking at sidekick. What you're actually going to look at when we're we're actually going to start is here on co-leader and so on. 00;04;25;02 - 00;04;50;07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Co-Leader. What you can do is, if you are a subscriber, a co-leader is a, curriculum roadmaps and, like, I guess almost, not pro presenter. What am I trying to say? Planning center replacement thing for youth pastors and for youth ministries. So here on co-leader, you can explore sort of all the different, series and topics and even, events that they have. 00;04;50;14 - 00;05;16;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Co-Leader has a roadmap series and so sort of like their proposed curriculum. And so you can explore their you're one of roadmaps and then you can also explore their your two here of roadmaps. And but essentially on co-leader what's so cool about it. And I like co-leader it is actually become it's new is only in year two of development but it's actually become my favorite curriculum resource, because it literally does everything for you. 00;05;16;11 - 00;05;33;27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you see here on our dashboard, these are series that we have redeemed our credits for. So Co-Leader works on sort of a credit system. And so we've redeemed, this credit series, this credit on this series here called masks. And so, for example, if you're in, session one of masks, you click view session here. 00;05;34;05 - 00;05;54;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you look right off to the side here, sidekick, you can open in sidekick. Boom. Click that little button and it will automatically import your entire sessions. So here's our session flow. They got your graphics and all that stuff. But starting here you got your countdown. You're welcome. Your icebreaker, your game, some songs, videos and then the teaching slides. 00;05;54;29 - 00;06;13;22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I want to show you what that looks like over here in sidekick. So if you're here in sidekick you'll see. Let's actually do a, side by side so that you can see them in comparison. Right. So from the top we have, countdown. There's your countdown. You got your, game right there. You got another game. 00;06;13;22 - 00;06;38;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Masked celebrity. And all of this is included in your co-leader subscription. You got your, bumper video for your masks, and then you got your masks. Chameleon is the title of the message. Chameleon teaching slides right there, and you can see how all of that works together. And so by a simple click of the button, your entire youth ministry night is planned. 00;06;38;29 - 00;07;03;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it is absolutely crazy. Now if you're a download Youth Ministry member, the co-leader is slightly different than do you? I am, but if you've never done anything in with download youth ministry before or co-leader, then I want to let my podcast listeners know that exclusively here on this podcast. I'll give you 10% off, of co-leader, so you can use the code Hybrid Ministry ten. 00;07;03;19 - 00;07;26;03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what that includes is not only will that give you access to co-leader, but that also sort of will unlock access to this presentation software called sidekick. And so included is sidekick for a year. It allows you to do the one click presentations for everything that's in co-leader. Both year one and year two of the roadmaps, and you can get an access to co-leader premium or Premium Plus. 00;07;26;03 - 00;07;48;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Okay. And so premium includes 260 co-leader credits. Like I said, it's kind of built off that credit system. And then you get 25 sidekick phone connections. That's for voting. We'll get to that in a minute. Or the premium class which is Premium Plus, which is 520 co-leader credits and 75 sidekick phone connections. So you can explore the differences between those two plans at this link here. 00;07;48;15 - 00;08;05;27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On screen sidekick TV pricing don't forget, if you've never used or never done anything before with sidekick or with co-leader, then if you're signing up for the first time, Hybrid Ministry ten, I'll give you 10% off. Go ahead and check that out. And so I love that 00;08;05;27 - 00;08;10;00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry about sidekick. I love that about, co-leader I love that, but it's integration. 00;08;10;01 - 00;08;10;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So boom. 00;08;10;11 - 00;08;22;28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right here. Here's my full like rundown, my full run sheet for everything going on here in this masks series. Now that's my first favorite thing about sidekick the co-leader integration. 00;08;22;28 - 00;08;37;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So my second favorite feature about sidekick is the YouTube video integration. Now, the thing I like about the YouTube video integration is it takes a while in sidekicks to to upload videos. 00;08;37;19 - 00;09;02;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can drag and drop JPEGs easily, but when you go to upload a video, just it takes a minute and it's a little clunky to do, like a video, next video, next video, because you got to kind of do it one by one. So here's how it look like. So if I wanted to put a video on this slide, I'd click Edit Media videos, go browse, go find the video, upload it, wait for it to upload, and then it's it's in its spot as opposed to just a quick and easy drag and drop. 00;09;02;05 - 00;09;23;29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, if, I wanted to just embed a YouTube video, that's very simple, and I've actually already done that right here on this one, you'll notice here's one of my YouTube videos embedded. So if I go to present this thing, remember it's browser based. So just very simply, 00;09;24;01 - 00;09;46;10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So just very simply, opens up a new window and you started hearing even the, the, what's it called? The countdown right there. But here's this video that I embedded social media right there into sidekick. I have all this functionality over here. I can pause the video, I can mute the video, I can restart the video. 00;09;46;10 - 00;10;10;05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I can do all those sort of things. Let me get this smaller so that we can see both of them together. So this is my presentation window that will just go full screen. Right. But very simply, when I'm, when I'm wanting to include a video, I can embed a video. And this is embedded small, but I can also just, you know, very, very simply, very easily embed that video full screen. 00;10;10;05 - 00;10;44;00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right, as well. Now, the other thing like that we use in our youth ministry as we go hybrid taking our our in-person and our digital, we teach live messages. But then we also prefilled them for multiple reasons, because we use that as a springboard for our Sunday morning small group content. And so every Sunday morning we play a clip off of one of our message clips, even though the message was delivered live, we play the filmed version, in our room, just like a 2 to 3 minute clip to remind everyone what was said. 00;10;44;02 - 00;11;03;11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our our leaders can look at it ahead of time. Our students who missed on Wednesday can also look at it ahead of time on YouTube. It's evergreen content. It's meant to reach students who, might be asking questions about faith, God, whatever the case might be. And so we do that. And if you're interested in exploring more about what that might look like, link down. 00;11;03;11 - 00;11;38;27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Below is a link to some custom coaching. I would love to help kind of level that game up for you, or even get you started from scratch if that's something that you're interested in. But it has been a hugely beneficial piece to us and our student ministry, having the ability to just simply embed our YouTube videos. And so for things like countdowns or for things that are like bigger files, I will actually upload those to YouTube, host them there, put them on just like a private unlisted link, and then embed that video into my sidekick presentation, as opposed to have to upload it every single time. 00;11;39;00 - 00;11;57;26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now here's the other thing I love about sidekick. It's easy to build. So let me show you very quickly. Like, while, you know, while the videos might be a little more tricky to, to pull in or builder upload, they're easy to do. They're just a little bit time consuming. That's why it's easy to just drop a YouTube video in there. 00;11;57;26 - 00;12;09;26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. But if I just want to like, add one of these JPEGs in here, all I gotta do is drag it and drop it and boom, it's uploaded and is ready to go. There it is. Okay, super simple, super easy to 00;12;09;26 - 00;12;17;19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry build. I love things like, these looping announcements. So right here, here's a bunch of different looping announcements. 00;12;17;19 - 00;12;39;04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, don't forget that the, here's the here's the countdown video again. But, you know, as always, like, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten. Don't forget about that. That's going to be used to your advantage. If you want to check out Collider, you want to check out sidekick. Don't forget we got custom social media coaching. Scan the QR code that you see here on screen here. 00;12;39;04 - 00;12;58;09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'll make it bigger so you can go and check out my completely free e-book about how to go hybrid. Or hey, don't forget about our Patreon. We got that going on $4 a month exclusive free merch along with all these other things that you see here. Listed out exclusive sticker help to show and segment topics, super chats and shout outs. 00;12;58;09 - 00;13;22;02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right? But you can turn this right here. You can turn these announcements to be looping announcements. We use those every single week in our ministry. So you'll see right over here. If you're watching here on screen, you see this little, loop icon. That means that this, this set of announcements in this little, pocket of, of slides here is set to, rotate. 00;13;22;05 - 00;13;41;14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This one right here is not. So let me show you how you do it. Click this little gear icon. You click loop slides. You say how long you want the slides to loop for seven seconds or 10s or however long you want it to. And then you simply click close and then boom. When you click present, those will then be on a looper, which is a fantastic resource. 00;13;41;14 - 00;14;03;16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We use that every single week in our student ministry. I also want to let you know just about a couple of other things that are awesome. You have the, free option up here. So if you're co-leader, sidekick, person, these are all free different resources that you can get just like and quickly and simply, you got countdowns and games and videos and all sorts of things. 00;14;03;18 - 00;14;21;28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can embed or import any of these into your presentation. 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All right, and then the other thing, man, the other thing that is so cool about, sidekick is that the you can control it from your phone simply by logging into app that sidekick.tv on your mobile device, and you can control it from anywhere in the room, including teaching. 00;14;55;24 - 00;15;19;28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can control it from any other device, including like our, sound booth, computer, maybe running sidekick. I can go into my office, and I can control sidekick from my office. And so my office actually sits where I can see in through some glass doors into our auditorium. And so if it's on the wrong side or whatever, I can pull open on my, on my laptop home from the app, that sidekick, that TV type in and change it. 00;15;20;04 - 00;15;45;15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I've had other like staff members and volunteers to be like, are you are you controlling that right now? And that part is so stinking cool. 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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;04;17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Youth pastor. Collegiate minister. Senior pastor. What if I told you

00;00;04;17 - 00;00;12;28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
that there was a better presentation software out there than pro presenter PowerPoint, or whatever else you use?

00;00;12;28 - 00;00;30;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It sounded too good to be true. Well, listen, it is made by youth pastors and is made for youth pastors. Give me a like if you think you already know what I'm talking about, because I am talking about my favorite presentation software and it's called sidekick.

00;00;30;19 - 00;01;01;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And here's why. This is great, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, because it is made for interaction and it is made for customization. But there is so much more. And in this video and in this upcoming playlist, I want to share with you what those features are. This video in particular, I'm going to drop my top eight different miscellaneous features because everyone knows that sidekick has things like the voting and the wheel picker and the name picker.

00;01;01;29 - 00;01;23;20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But in this video, I'm going to share the other things that sidekick has to offer besides those obvious kind of milestone landmark, features built in woven into the presentation software. And if you're here on YouTube, as always, don't forget that there are chapters listed down below at the bottom so that you can jump ahead to what matters most to you.

00;01;23;20 - 00;01;50;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But here's the thing in the context in which I'm currently working, we are all in on sidekick. What we've done is we have two computers now, one for pro presenter and one for sidekick. Because if you know, if you've used sidekick in the new beta version at all, you know that it runs through Google Chrome and in the previous versions, what you could do with running a software like, pro presenters, you'd have pro presenter up and running and then back behind it.

00;01;50;02 - 00;02;19;03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You could have the sidekick window and you could just toggle off the display. But now Chrome is actually more powerful than Pro Presenter. Most people I tell that they find that actually incredibly surprising. And so as a result of that, it makes switching between Chrome and Pro Presenter a little bit tricky. And so the way in which we have sort of circumvented or navigated that is we have just built two computers and we have a black magic video switcher where we can go from computer one to computer two.

00;02;19;09 - 00;02;44;24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And essentially we use Pro Presenter for just worship and lyrics, and then we use sidekick for every thing else. You know, I'm actually launching here during the course of this playlist, starting officially on December 2nd, a brand new bonus podcast. I'm going to be releasing it one time per week, going to be over on my Patreon page. And listen, Patreon, takes a little bit of a fee.

00;02;45;01 - 00;03;10;21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so the reason that I'm doing that is to just, invest back into the podcast. But I am only charging $4 per month. I think it is a small, modest fee. Essentially it is going to break down to $1 per week per additional bonus. Podcast. What I want to do with that podcast, I just simply want to share with you the creative ways that we are running our youth ministry programing and how we're making it hybrid.

00;03;10;21 - 00;03;35;24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you want more hybrid information, I would love to share that with you. This podcast and this YouTube video is meant to sort of like give a big broad strokes overview of what Hybrid Ministry is. But on my Patreon page, what I want to do is I just want to share an extra bonus podcast and simply chat through everything that I've done for the week and talk through the ways that we've tried to make it creative and talk through the ways in which we have tried to sort of hybridize our ministry.

00;03;35;24 - 00;04;01;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that podcast is starting December 2nd. And for everyone who signs up during now, if you're watching live through December 2nd, I am going to send and mail you an exclusive free piece of merch. For all who sign up between now and December 2nd. Like I said, and it basically breaks down to $1 a month. So, either scan the QR code that you see here on screen or hit the link down below in the description.

00;04;01;29 - 00;04;25;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But let's dive in to my eight favorite features of sidekick. Let's check it out. So my first favorite feature of sidekick is its co-leader integration. And if you're watching here on screen, you might be surprised to know that you're not looking at sidekick. What you're actually going to look at when we're we're actually going to start is here on co-leader and so on.

00;04;25;02 - 00;04;50;07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Co-Leader. What you can do is, if you are a subscriber, a co-leader is a, curriculum roadmaps and, like, I guess almost, not pro presenter. What am I trying to say? Planning center replacement thing for youth pastors and for youth ministries. So here on co-leader, you can explore sort of all the different, series and topics and even, events that they have.

00;04;50;14 - 00;05;16;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Co-Leader has a roadmap series and so sort of like their proposed curriculum. And so you can explore their you're one of roadmaps and then you can also explore their your two here of roadmaps. And but essentially on co-leader what's so cool about it. And I like co-leader it is actually become it's new is only in year two of development but it's actually become my favorite curriculum resource, because it literally does everything for you.

00;05;16;11 - 00;05;33;27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you see here on our dashboard, these are series that we have redeemed our credits for. So Co-Leader works on sort of a credit system. And so we've redeemed, this credit series, this credit on this series here called masks. And so, for example, if you're in, session one of masks, you click view session here.

00;05;34;05 - 00;05;54;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you look right off to the side here, sidekick, you can open in sidekick. Boom. Click that little button and it will automatically import your entire sessions. So here's our session flow. They got your graphics and all that stuff. But starting here you got your countdown. You're welcome. Your icebreaker, your game, some songs, videos and then the teaching slides.

00;05;54;29 - 00;06;13;22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I want to show you what that looks like over here in sidekick. So if you're here in sidekick you'll see. Let's actually do a, side by side so that you can see them in comparison. Right. So from the top we have, countdown. There's your countdown. You got your, game right there. You got another game.

00;06;13;22 - 00;06;38;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Masked celebrity. And all of this is included in your co-leader subscription. You got your, bumper video for your masks, and then you got your masks. Chameleon is the title of the message. Chameleon teaching slides right there, and you can see how all of that works together. And so by a simple click of the button, your entire youth ministry night is planned.

00;06;38;29 - 00;07;03;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it is absolutely crazy. Now if you're a download Youth Ministry member, the co-leader is slightly different than do you? I am, but if you've never done anything in with download youth ministry before or co-leader, then I want to let my podcast listeners know that exclusively here on this podcast. I'll give you 10% off, of co-leader, so you can use the code Hybrid Ministry ten.

00;07;03;19 - 00;07;26;03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what that includes is not only will that give you access to co-leader, but that also sort of will unlock access to this presentation software called sidekick. And so included is sidekick for a year. It allows you to do the one click presentations for everything that's in co-leader. Both year one and year two of the roadmaps, and you can get an access to co-leader premium or Premium Plus.

00;07;26;03 - 00;07;48;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Okay. And so premium includes 260 co-leader credits. Like I said, it's kind of built off that credit system. And then you get 25 sidekick phone connections. That's for voting. We'll get to that in a minute. Or the premium class which is Premium Plus, which is 520 co-leader credits and 75 sidekick phone connections. So you can explore the differences between those two plans at this link here.

00;07;48;15 - 00;08;05;27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
On screen sidekick TV pricing don't forget, if you've never used or never done anything before with sidekick or with co-leader, then if you're signing up for the first time, Hybrid Ministry ten, I'll give you 10% off. Go ahead and check that out. And so I love that

00;08;05;27 - 00;08;10;00
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about sidekick. I love that about, co-leader I love that, but it's integration.

00;08;10;01 - 00;08;10;11
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So boom.

00;08;10;11 - 00;08;22;28
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Right here. Here's my full like rundown, my full run sheet for everything going on here in this masks series. Now that's my first favorite thing about sidekick the co-leader integration.

00;08;22;28 - 00;08;37;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So my second favorite feature about sidekick is the YouTube video integration. Now, the thing I like about the YouTube video integration is it takes a while in sidekicks to to upload videos.

00;08;37;19 - 00;09;02;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can drag and drop JPEGs easily, but when you go to upload a video, just it takes a minute and it's a little clunky to do, like a video, next video, next video, because you got to kind of do it one by one. So here's how it look like. So if I wanted to put a video on this slide, I'd click Edit Media videos, go browse, go find the video, upload it, wait for it to upload, and then it's it's in its spot as opposed to just a quick and easy drag and drop.

00;09;02;05 - 00;09;23;29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, if, I wanted to just embed a YouTube video, that's very simple, and I've actually already done that right here on this one, you'll notice here's one of my YouTube videos embedded. So if I go to present this thing, remember it's browser based. So just very simply,

00;09;24;01 - 00;09;46;10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So just very simply, opens up a new window and you started hearing even the, the, what's it called? The countdown right there. But here's this video that I embedded social media right there into sidekick. I have all this functionality over here. I can pause the video, I can mute the video, I can restart the video.

00;09;46;10 - 00;10;10;05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I can do all those sort of things. Let me get this smaller so that we can see both of them together. So this is my presentation window that will just go full screen. Right. But very simply, when I'm, when I'm wanting to include a video, I can embed a video. And this is embedded small, but I can also just, you know, very, very simply, very easily embed that video full screen.

00;10;10;05 - 00;10;44;00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right, as well. Now, the other thing like that we use in our youth ministry as we go hybrid taking our our in-person and our digital, we teach live messages. But then we also prefilled them for multiple reasons, because we use that as a springboard for our Sunday morning small group content. And so every Sunday morning we play a clip off of one of our message clips, even though the message was delivered live, we play the filmed version, in our room, just like a 2 to 3 minute clip to remind everyone what was said.

00;10;44;02 - 00;11;03;11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Our our leaders can look at it ahead of time. Our students who missed on Wednesday can also look at it ahead of time on YouTube. It's evergreen content. It's meant to reach students who, might be asking questions about faith, God, whatever the case might be. And so we do that. And if you're interested in exploring more about what that might look like, link down.

00;11;03;11 - 00;11;38;27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Below is a link to some custom coaching. I would love to help kind of level that game up for you, or even get you started from scratch if that's something that you're interested in. But it has been a hugely beneficial piece to us and our student ministry, having the ability to just simply embed our YouTube videos. And so for things like countdowns or for things that are like bigger files, I will actually upload those to YouTube, host them there, put them on just like a private unlisted link, and then embed that video into my sidekick presentation, as opposed to have to upload it every single time.

00;11;39;00 - 00;11;57;26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now here's the other thing I love about sidekick. It's easy to build. So let me show you very quickly. Like, while, you know, while the videos might be a little more tricky to, to pull in or builder upload, they're easy to do. They're just a little bit time consuming. That's why it's easy to just drop a YouTube video in there.

00;11;57;26 - 00;12;09;26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. But if I just want to like, add one of these JPEGs in here, all I gotta do is drag it and drop it and boom, it's uploaded and is ready to go. There it is. Okay, super simple, super easy to

00;12;09;26 - 00;12;17;19
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build. I love things like, these looping announcements. So right here, here's a bunch of different looping announcements.

00;12;17;19 - 00;12;39;04
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You know, don't forget that the, here's the here's the countdown video again. But, you know, as always, like, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten. Don't forget about that. That's going to be used to your advantage. If you want to check out Collider, you want to check out sidekick. Don't forget we got custom social media coaching. Scan the QR code that you see here on screen here.

00;12;39;04 - 00;12;58;09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll make it bigger so you can go and check out my completely free e-book about how to go hybrid. Or hey, don't forget about our Patreon. We got that going on $4 a month exclusive free merch along with all these other things that you see here. Listed out exclusive sticker help to show and segment topics, super chats and shout outs.

00;12;58;09 - 00;13;22;02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right? But you can turn this right here. You can turn these announcements to be looping announcements. We use those every single week in our ministry. So you'll see right over here. If you're watching here on screen, you see this little, loop icon. That means that this, this set of announcements in this little, pocket of, of slides here is set to, rotate.

00;13;22;05 - 00;13;41;14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This one right here is not. So let me show you how you do it. Click this little gear icon. You click loop slides. You say how long you want the slides to loop for seven seconds or 10s or however long you want it to. And then you simply click close and then boom. When you click present, those will then be on a looper, which is a fantastic resource.

00;13;41;14 - 00;14;03;16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We use that every single week in our student ministry. I also want to let you know just about a couple of other things that are awesome. You have the, free option up here. So if you're co-leader, sidekick, person, these are all free different resources that you can get just like and quickly and simply, you got countdowns and games and videos and all sorts of things.

00;14;03;18 - 00;14;21;28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can embed or import any of these into your presentation. The other thing that's really cool is when you buy something on demand, look, I've bought these things before, they will automatically upload them. So as I was saying, kind of the video thing was a little clunky to upload and maybe you don't want to upload every single one of these to a YouTube playlist and then embed those via YouTube.

00;14;22;00 - 00;14;55;19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
No sweat. No problem. Check it out. You can very simply buy something on gram and then boom, it'll be there in just a second and then you can quickly import it. Just like I did down here with this, finish the drawing game back to school. And there it is. Boom. Imported. All right, and then the other thing, man, the other thing that is so cool about, sidekick is that the you can control it from your phone simply by logging into app that sidekick.tv on your mobile device, and you can control it from anywhere in the room, including teaching.

00;14;55;24 - 00;15;19;28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can control it from any other device, including like our, sound booth, computer, maybe running sidekick. I can go into my office, and I can control sidekick from my office. And so my office actually sits where I can see in through some glass doors into our auditorium. And so if it's on the wrong side or whatever, I can pull open on my, on my laptop home from the app, that sidekick, that TV type in and change it.

00;15;20;04 - 00;15;45;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I've had other like staff members and volunteers to be like, are you are you controlling that right now? And that part is so stinking cool. The last thing the eighth and final piece about sidekick that I love is the voting. The voting option is the the single greatest advent. This is what makes this presentation and software so unique and so customizable.

00;15;45;21 - 00;16;13;15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's what we're going to talk about. Additional creative ways to use it in your games, in your countdowns, in your teaching, in all sorts of different ways to deploy and use the voting feature in sidekick. You can't do this on any other presentation software. That video is going to be linked right here on screen. Go check out our Patreon as we'll talk about multiple creative ways to deploy voting and to deploy sidekick, and simply what I am doing to lean in and be more hybrid.

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But check that video out on screen. And don't forget, and as always, my friends, to stay hybrid.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Youth pastor. Collegiate minister. Senior pastor. What if I told you

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that there was a better presentation software out there than pro presenter PowerPoint, or whatever else you use?

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It sounded too good to be true. Well, listen, it is made by youth pastors and is made for youth pastors. Give me a like if you think you already know what I'm talking about, because I am talking about my favorite presentation software and it's called sidekick.

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And here's why. This is great, regardless of if you're in youth ministry or not, because it is made for interaction and it is made for customization. But there is so much more. And in this video and in this upcoming playlist, I want to share with you what those features are. This video in particular, I'm going to drop my top eight different miscellaneous features because everyone knows that sidekick has things like the voting and the wheel picker and the name picker.

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But in this video, I'm going to share the other things that sidekick has to offer besides those obvious kind of milestone landmark, features built in woven into the presentation software. And if you're here on YouTube, as always, don't forget that there are chapters listed down below at the bottom so that you can jump ahead to what matters most to you.

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But here's the thing in the context in which I'm currently working, we are all in on sidekick. What we've done is we have two computers now, one for pro presenter and one for sidekick. Because if you know, if you've used sidekick in the new beta version at all, you know that it runs through Google Chrome and in the previous versions, what you could do with running a software like, pro presenters, you'd have pro presenter up and running and then back behind it.

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You could have the sidekick window and you could just toggle off the display. But now Chrome is actually more powerful than Pro Presenter. Most people I tell that they find that actually incredibly surprising. And so as a result of that, it makes switching between Chrome and Pro Presenter a little bit tricky. And so the way in which we have sort of circumvented or navigated that is we have just built two computers and we have a black magic video switcher where we can go from computer one to computer two.

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And essentially we use Pro Presenter for just worship and lyrics, and then we use sidekick for every thing else. You know, I'm actually launching here during the course of this playlist, starting officially on December 2nd, a brand new bonus podcast. I'm going to be releasing it one time per week, going to be over on my Patreon page. And listen, Patreon, takes a little bit of a fee.

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And so the reason that I'm doing that is to just, invest back into the podcast. But I am only charging $4 per month. I think it is a small, modest fee. Essentially it is going to break down to $1 per week per additional bonus. Podcast. What I want to do with that podcast, I just simply want to share with you the creative ways that we are running our youth ministry programing and how we're making it hybrid.

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And so if you want more hybrid information, I would love to share that with you. This podcast and this YouTube video is meant to sort of like give a big broad strokes overview of what Hybrid Ministry is. But on my Patreon page, what I want to do is I just want to share an extra bonus podcast and simply chat through everything that I've done for the week and talk through the ways that we've tried to make it creative and talk through the ways in which we have tried to sort of hybridize our ministry.

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And so that podcast is starting December 2nd. And for everyone who signs up during now, if you're watching live through December 2nd, I am going to send and mail you an exclusive free piece of merch. For all who sign up between now and December 2nd. Like I said, and it basically breaks down to $1 a month. So, either scan the QR code that you see here on screen or hit the link down below in the description.

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But let's dive in to my eight favorite features of sidekick. Let's check it out. So my first favorite feature of sidekick is its co-leader integration. And if you're watching here on screen, you might be surprised to know that you're not looking at sidekick. What you're actually going to look at when we're we're actually going to start is here on co-leader and so on.

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Co-Leader. What you can do is, if you are a subscriber, a co-leader is a, curriculum roadmaps and, like, I guess almost, not pro presenter. What am I trying to say? Planning center replacement thing for youth pastors and for youth ministries. So here on co-leader, you can explore sort of all the different, series and topics and even, events that they have.

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Co-Leader has a roadmap series and so sort of like their proposed curriculum. And so you can explore their you're one of roadmaps and then you can also explore their your two here of roadmaps. And but essentially on co-leader what's so cool about it. And I like co-leader it is actually become it's new is only in year two of development but it's actually become my favorite curriculum resource, because it literally does everything for you.

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So you see here on our dashboard, these are series that we have redeemed our credits for. So Co-Leader works on sort of a credit system. And so we've redeemed, this credit series, this credit on this series here called masks. And so, for example, if you're in, session one of masks, you click view session here.

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And if you look right off to the side here, sidekick, you can open in sidekick. Boom. Click that little button and it will automatically import your entire sessions. So here's our session flow. They got your graphics and all that stuff. But starting here you got your countdown. You're welcome. Your icebreaker, your game, some songs, videos and then the teaching slides.

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And so I want to show you what that looks like over here in sidekick. So if you're here in sidekick you'll see. Let's actually do a, side by side so that you can see them in comparison. Right. So from the top we have, countdown. There's your countdown. You got your, game right there. You got another game.

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Masked celebrity. And all of this is included in your co-leader subscription. You got your, bumper video for your masks, and then you got your masks. Chameleon is the title of the message. Chameleon teaching slides right there, and you can see how all of that works together. And so by a simple click of the button, your entire youth ministry night is planned.

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And it is absolutely crazy. Now if you're a download Youth Ministry member, the co-leader is slightly different than do you? I am, but if you've never done anything in with download youth ministry before or co-leader, then I want to let my podcast listeners know that exclusively here on this podcast. I'll give you 10% off, of co-leader, so you can use the code Hybrid Ministry ten.

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And what that includes is not only will that give you access to co-leader, but that also sort of will unlock access to this presentation software called sidekick. And so included is sidekick for a year. It allows you to do the one click presentations for everything that's in co-leader. Both year one and year two of the roadmaps, and you can get an access to co-leader premium or Premium Plus.

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Okay. And so premium includes 260 co-leader credits. Like I said, it's kind of built off that credit system. And then you get 25 sidekick phone connections. That's for voting. We'll get to that in a minute. Or the premium class which is Premium Plus, which is 520 co-leader credits and 75 sidekick phone connections. So you can explore the differences between those two plans at this link here.

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On screen sidekick TV pricing don't forget, if you've never used or never done anything before with sidekick or with co-leader, then if you're signing up for the first time, Hybrid Ministry ten, I'll give you 10% off. Go ahead and check that out. And so I love that

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about sidekick. I love that about, co-leader I love that, but it's integration.

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So boom.

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Right here. Here's my full like rundown, my full run sheet for everything going on here in this masks series. Now that's my first favorite thing about sidekick the co-leader integration.

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So my second favorite feature about sidekick is the YouTube video integration. Now, the thing I like about the YouTube video integration is it takes a while in sidekicks to to upload videos.

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You can drag and drop JPEGs easily, but when you go to upload a video, just it takes a minute and it's a little clunky to do, like a video, next video, next video, because you got to kind of do it one by one. So here's how it look like. So if I wanted to put a video on this slide, I'd click Edit Media videos, go browse, go find the video, upload it, wait for it to upload, and then it's it's in its spot as opposed to just a quick and easy drag and drop.

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However, if, I wanted to just embed a YouTube video, that's very simple, and I've actually already done that right here on this one, you'll notice here's one of my YouTube videos embedded. So if I go to present this thing, remember it's browser based. So just very simply,

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So just very simply, opens up a new window and you started hearing even the, the, what's it called? The countdown right there. But here's this video that I embedded social media right there into sidekick. I have all this functionality over here. I can pause the video, I can mute the video, I can restart the video.

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I can do all those sort of things. Let me get this smaller so that we can see both of them together. So this is my presentation window that will just go full screen. Right. But very simply, when I'm, when I'm wanting to include a video, I can embed a video. And this is embedded small, but I can also just, you know, very, very simply, very easily embed that video full screen.

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Right, as well. Now, the other thing like that we use in our youth ministry as we go hybrid taking our our in-person and our digital, we teach live messages. But then we also prefilled them for multiple reasons, because we use that as a springboard for our Sunday morning small group content. And so every Sunday morning we play a clip off of one of our message clips, even though the message was delivered live, we play the filmed version, in our room, just like a 2 to 3 minute clip to remind everyone what was said.

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Our our leaders can look at it ahead of time. Our students who missed on Wednesday can also look at it ahead of time on YouTube. It's evergreen content. It's meant to reach students who, might be asking questions about faith, God, whatever the case might be. And so we do that. And if you're interested in exploring more about what that might look like, link down.

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Below is a link to some custom coaching. I would love to help kind of level that game up for you, or even get you started from scratch if that's something that you're interested in. But it has been a hugely beneficial piece to us and our student ministry, having the ability to just simply embed our YouTube videos. And so for things like countdowns or for things that are like bigger files, I will actually upload those to YouTube, host them there, put them on just like a private unlisted link, and then embed that video into my sidekick presentation, as opposed to have to upload it every single time.

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Now here's the other thing I love about sidekick. It's easy to build. So let me show you very quickly. Like, while, you know, while the videos might be a little more tricky to, to pull in or builder upload, they're easy to do. They're just a little bit time consuming. That's why it's easy to just drop a YouTube video in there.

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Right. But if I just want to like, add one of these JPEGs in here, all I gotta do is drag it and drop it and boom, it's uploaded and is ready to go. There it is. Okay, super simple, super easy to

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build. I love things like, these looping announcements. So right here, here's a bunch of different looping announcements.

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You know, don't forget that the, here's the here's the countdown video again. But, you know, as always, like, don't forget Hybrid Ministry ten. Don't forget about that. That's going to be used to your advantage. If you want to check out Collider, you want to check out sidekick. Don't forget we got custom social media coaching. Scan the QR code that you see here on screen here.

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I'll make it bigger so you can go and check out my completely free e-book about how to go hybrid. Or hey, don't forget about our Patreon. We got that going on $4 a month exclusive free merch along with all these other things that you see here. Listed out exclusive sticker help to show and segment topics, super chats and shout outs.

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Right? But you can turn this right here. You can turn these announcements to be looping announcements. We use those every single week in our ministry. So you'll see right over here. If you're watching here on screen, you see this little, loop icon. That means that this, this set of announcements in this little, pocket of, of slides here is set to, rotate.

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This one right here is not. So let me show you how you do it. Click this little gear icon. You click loop slides. You say how long you want the slides to loop for seven seconds or 10s or however long you want it to. And then you simply click close and then boom. When you click present, those will then be on a looper, which is a fantastic resource.

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We use that every single week in our student ministry. I also want to let you know just about a couple of other things that are awesome. You have the, free option up here. So if you're co-leader, sidekick, person, these are all free different resources that you can get just like and quickly and simply, you got countdowns and games and videos and all sorts of things.

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You can embed or import any of these into your presentation. The other thing that's really cool is when you buy something on demand, look, I've bought these things before, they will automatically upload them. So as I was saying, kind of the video thing was a little clunky to upload and maybe you don't want to upload every single one of these to a YouTube playlist and then embed those via YouTube.

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No sweat. No problem. Check it out. You can very simply buy something on gram and then boom, it'll be there in just a second and then you can quickly import it. Just like I did down here with this, finish the drawing game back to school. And there it is. Boom. Imported. All right, and then the other thing, man, the other thing that is so cool about, sidekick is that the you can control it from your phone simply by logging into app that sidekick.tv on your mobile device, and you can control it from anywhere in the room, including teaching.

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You can control it from any other device, including like our, sound booth, computer, maybe running sidekick. I can go into my office, and I can control sidekick from my office. And so my office actually sits where I can see in through some glass doors into our auditorium. And so if it's on the wrong side or whatever, I can pull open on my, on my laptop home from the app, that sidekick, that TV type in and change it.

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And I've had other like staff members and volunteers to be like, are you are you controlling that right now? And that part is so stinking cool. The last thing the eighth and final piece about sidekick that I love is the voting. The voting option is the the single greatest advent. This is what makes this presentation and software so unique and so customizable.

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And that's what we're going to talk about. Additional creative ways to use it in your games, in your countdowns, in your teaching, in all sorts of different ways to deploy and use the voting feature in sidekick. You can't do this on any other presentation software. That video is going to be linked right here on screen. Go check out our Patreon as we'll talk about multiple creative ways to deploy voting and to deploy sidekick, and simply what I am doing to lean in and be more hybrid.

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But check that video out on screen. And don't forget, and as always, my friends, to stay hybrid.

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That's 00:00:06:08 - 00:00:07:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so exciting. 00:00:08:00 - 00:00:09:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now how do 00:00:09:24 - 00:00:14:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry we make sure that they return well, without seeming 00:00:14:29 - 00:00:20:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry weird or creepy or old and out of touch? 00:00:20:06 - 00:00:35:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So here's the thing. We all want our students to attend our church. We want them also to feel comfortable and then hopefully ultimately find a home at our church or in our group or with our student ministry. 00:00:35:23 - 00:01:01:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so a visitor is great, but a returning guest even better. See in this podcast, in this episode, what I want to do is I'm going to share with you our step by step guest follow up process and the physical and in-person product that we are using to turn our process hybrid. And I want to give you this box artwork. 00:01:01:17 - 00:01:02:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So go ahead and you 00:01:02:17 - 00:01:08:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry can scrub ahead. You can click the link down below in the description or go to I start talking about the box design 00:01:08:21 - 00:01:09:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in 00:01:09:02 - 00:01:17:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this YouTube playlist, and you can go ahead and grab that link from us and go check it out. If you're following along here on YouTube, just a reminder there are chapters 00:01:17:14 - 00:01:17:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry down 00:01:17:27 - 00:01:22:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry along at the bottom so that you can skip straight ahead to the parts of the video that make the most sense to you. 00:01:22:25 - 00:01:28:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But just as a reminder, hybrid is taking your in-person moment and your digital and finding a way to 00:01:28:10 - 00:01:31:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry intersect them together. So my 00:01:31:18 - 00:01:37:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry guess is give me a like, if you are the type of person who, when you have a student, you send them 00:01:37:00 - 00:01:37:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry a 00:01:37:10 - 00:01:40:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry postcard or go ahead and give me a 00:01:40:06 - 00:01:43:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry subscribe, if maybe not just a postcard, but 00:01:43:09 - 00:01:45:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you're also sending a text message, right? 00:01:45:14 - 00:02:05:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So early on I would I would send postcards. That was and I still do send postcards as, the way that I was kind of trained and I even like as a youth group student received postcards and, and I still do believe in the power of the personal touch. And I, I think that mail, does actually play an important role in youth ministry. 00:02:05:05 - 00:02:25:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I think students don't receive mail very often. So I think it's helpful and beneficial for them to get it. Text messages. I do also believe they're important, especially as we talk about hybrid and the intersection of that hybrid being where, it often lands in the hands and in the palms of a student's cell phone. But I don't know about you, but I send a postcard, and it's like 00:02:27:07 - 00:02:28:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry where I send a text. 00:02:28:18 - 00:02:40:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And one time, literally, I got I sent a text from my personal cell phone number, and I got the word stop like, no, no, this was not an automated text like, this is a human being, but okay. 00:02:40:04 - 00:02:47:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Got it. I'll stop. So enter Covid when Covid hit. For those of you watching 00:02:47:19 - 00:02:50:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Linked Up, here is our 100th episode 00:02:50:05 - 00:03:07:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry where I did a recap about where this all sort of hybrid thing started, but we created this full scale and full length digital expression of youth ministry like a full, almost like YouTube variety show, Think like Jimmy Fallon, but youth ministry and YouTube. 00:03:07:26 - 00:03:10:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so our Covid experience was so 00:03:10:22 - 00:03:11:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you. 00:03:44:00 - 00:04:00:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you. 00:04:00:14 - 00:04:31:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So much. I mean, long gone now were the days of the, unanswered texts or the postcards sent into a black hole. Like, now I'm getting students and parents who are actually acknowledging our efforts and acknowledging us, helping roll out the red carpet to help make them feel welcome. It was a great response, but unfortunately, due to like where I lived and how regionally drawn our churches our church was and how far students drove to to come and attend our campus, and the fact that they could do it online. 00:04:31:26 - 00:04:32:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Us they didn't have to 00:04:32:18 - 00:04:52:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry get in the car and come drive a certain distance to our church. It took me a whole day like I remember one Thursday. So our youth night was Wednesday, one Thursday I spent like 9 to 5 in the car just doing these, these door drops. And so, I was just, you know, I was like, I guess that's part of the job, right? 00:04:52:01 - 00:05:13:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I was talking to my boss and I was like, hey, like, I spent my whole Thursday driving around new, so great. And I saw him all the great things. And he's like, you spent your whole day driving. I was like, we can on. Yeah. And he's like, oh, let's, let's, let's change that. And so, what we started doing as opposed to like the physical, me getting in my car, taking it and putting it on their doorstep. 00:05:13:24 - 00:05:33:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We started, taking the same concept, getting it to their hands. But instead of me doing it, we started paying the post office to do it as if there were some sort of service that could take something from point A to point B, and that is woven all throughout the fabric of our country being it's the post office. 00:05:33:14 - 00:05:56:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we started shipping things and it was expensive. Don't get me wrong, we created like a branded box, and now it's like we had to include a little bit more than just a duck in a postcard, so that the box didn't seem boring and empty. But we started shipping it. And so, that that strategy, we kind of laid that over and carried that over, here where I work now. 00:05:56:04 - 00:06:00:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's I started for the first probably like two years of my, my tenure here at this church 00:06:00:29 - 00:06:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with text message, follow up for first time guess. And I can count on one finger, the amount of times I got a response. And that response was in those two years, the word stop. And so I said, hey, listen, maybe I'm just too old for this. 00:06:17:20 - 00:06:37:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like I'm in my mid 30s and maybe students are like, I that's weird to text the guy in the in his 30s, or maybe text messages to students who they don't have the contact info from, especially from a phone number that it's not local. I live in DFW, Dallas-Fort worth, Texas. My phone number is from Dayton, Ohio. Like there is a massive difference in those two area codes. 00:06:37:01 - 00:06:52:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so they see someone down here with an 807 area code seeing a nine, three seven area code. They don't know what to do with it. So they ghosted as they do. And so I suggest and I propose what if we bring back the boxes. And so what I want to do is I want to share with you this right here. 00:06:52:14 - 00:07:10:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is our welcome box. It's branded. It's custom for us. And so if you look on all the sides, it's got a little, it's great to meet you. It's got, you know, yay! You're here. And then the top here, says welcome, along with a return address and a spot for us to put their address. 00:07:10:15 - 00:07:30:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then on the back, it's got our social handles. And what I want to do is I want to go through step by step, item by item, and, boxes here with you. And so, one of the things that we do is every single, every single semester, but three times a year, we do like a four, we do a winter, and then we do a summer calendar. 00:07:30:04 - 00:07:50:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what we do is we make our calendars into magnets. And so you look here, this is a magnet. It's about eight inches long. And so, truth be told, this box right here is about eight inches, and it's eight inches because the magnet is eight inches. I made the decision to make the box the same size as the magnet. 00:07:50:28 - 00:08:11:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so then I made sure that everything from the size of the magnet on down would be able to fit into the box. So, we put the magnet in there. The magnet has all of our events. And you'll also notice here's an opportunity to go hybrid. This right here is just a link to subscribe to the IX or the calendar type things. 00:08:11:14 - 00:08:29:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's a calendar, extension you can get it from, like creating, a Google calendar, a calendar, a Google calendar calendar. And then you can share that out. And so that's what we did. And so students can add this and subscribe to their calendar. We haven't gotten as many of those from students, but I know we've gotten some scans from parents. 00:08:29:13 - 00:08:48:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And also we give specific and particular leader magnet. And so our leaders also can go ahead and scan that. And so that is our magnet. We also have this sticker here, and these frankly, they're just laying around. We got these for free. So these didn't really cost the anything. So so far I want to point out these. 00:08:48:07 - 00:09:08:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We already print like we already pay for these for our students. And these are already laying around. So so far we're $0 into the box. Don't worry. It gets more expensive. This right here is just a little, promo, a nod to our social media. And so down the road, we will send them this postcard that simply says, life can be hard. 00:09:08:15 - 00:09:27:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You don't have to do it alone. This is a QR code to our link tree. And then here's just a little preview of our churches, YouTube handle right there. And, probably our most popular video, which is what is anxiety? What do I do about it if I have it? And we'll just, God have to say about anxiety. 00:09:27:16 - 00:09:44:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we will send this out a couple weeks after we send the box out. This is, this is a separate pieces doesn't go in the box that sent later. This is an additional kind of piece of merch. And again, once again, we have just some stuff kind of laying around that we inherited from the old regime. 00:09:44:19 - 00:10:07:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we try to, like, get rid of it. The little guest box checklist that we have this, and like an extra piece of merch from our merch cabinet. So here's a piece of merch from our merch cabinet. Right here. This one's kind of unique. Okay, we have a lanyard. And the reason that we have a lanyard branded and all the things is that right here, we do, we do pins right? 00:10:07:29 - 00:10:29:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Kind of like, think like Disney pin trading. So we'll create pins. And this right here is our little mascot guy. We call him Pugsley the platypus, because a baby platypus is a puggle. So one of our sixth graders one year recommended that we name them Pugsley. And so thus we did. And so we have this lanyard. And I actually have a lanyard for, like, my, staff nametag lanyard. 00:10:29:22 - 00:10:51:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this is full of pins. So like summer camp, Water wars, the Back to School bash, Space Jam night, like any, any event that we deem pin worthy. So coming up, we'll have our Christmas at the movies event. We'll. We've done costume parties. Any of those, they get designed. We just found a dude on Fiverr. He designed these for us. 00:10:51:01 - 00:11:12:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we send these, after sticker mule and sticker mule creates the pins. And so then we stick this pin. This is the, like, og original. Pugsley pin. It's just a traditional guy. He's just wearing, like, our logo on his t shirt there. And, we put the original pin on the lanyard for the students, and then, right here, this has three for free. 00:11:12:29 - 00:11:32:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this is a, redeemable coupon at our student ministry cafe. They can turn this in and get three things for free. And then, we have these life books and these life books. We've gotten them, from the Gideons, the the Bible translator and the Bible, providers. And so you can actually get these for free. 00:11:32:23 - 00:11:51:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it's just it's like the book of John with like some notes, and it's designed well and graphically. And so you've probably seen these before, and truth be told, I like these. I also like the life and Six words book, that comes from, dare to share. But these we had like three cases of these again from the old regime. 00:11:51:19 - 00:12:07:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we're like, let's go ahead and give these away. When these run out, we may reorder these. We may do a different sort of devotional, but but this is like the one sort of like devotional, sort of like spiritual peace. And then that's now the emptiness of the box and say, look down at the box there and you'll see, it's got this word right here. 00:12:07:26 - 00:12:24:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's got some copy and it simply says, hey there, we're so glad you joined us. Meet Pugsley, our platypus mascot, voted on and named by our students. We love it when students invest in student ministry. So in this box, you will find everything that you need to get started. And then it's a numbered list. You'll see one, two, three, four. 00:12:24:23 - 00:12:42:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Number one. This lanyard is a great spot to hold pins. Number two, we started you with your first one and there's more to come at our Pin events and milestones throughout the year. Number three, this life book is a great place to find out about what Jesus is all about. Number four, some other random stuff because we wanted you to know how glad we are that you joined us. 00:12:42:09 - 00:12:57:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We can't wait to get to know you. And then the very last piece of it, my favorite piece of it, the piece that I think makes it hybrid, is right. When you open the box, you see this QR code here and it just says welcome video, scan me. And so we'll have students who are new the open this up 00:12:57:25 - 00:13:01:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry theoretically on their porch, on their patio, wherever they will scan it. 00:13:01:26 - 00:13:24:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we'll take them to a video right here. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see a preview of it, but linked right here, linked below is what I want to do is I want to offer you, the art for this box if you want to start creating your own. I'll also, give you like, a detailed tutorial, like where I ordered it from, as well as the copy for the welcome video. 00:13:24:02 - 00:13:49:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you can feel free to film that, throw that on a teleprompter, memorize it however you want to film it, and you can start creating better welcome and better guest returns for your youth ministry and for your student ministry. And once again, here's the reason that I like this is because this, gets them connected to us. This at a very minimum, one of the sections on this video right here says, we're so glad that you came. 00:13:49:29 - 00:14:10:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And also welcome to our YouTube channel. And if you've been around this podcast or this YouTube playlist, any link or a YouTube channel, any length of time you know that 95% of teenagers are claiming to be and be active on YouTube. And so therefore, I think we as youth ministries should make that a priority. 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TRANSCRIPT
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So you have a

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brand new student or

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person to your church.

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Hooray!

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Congratulations! That's

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so exciting.

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Now how do

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we make sure that they return well, without seeming

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weird or creepy or old and out of touch?

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So here's the thing. We all want our students to attend our church. We want them also to feel comfortable and then hopefully ultimately find a home at our church or in our group or with our student ministry.

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And so a visitor is great, but a returning guest even better. See in this podcast, in this episode, what I want to do is I'm going to share with you our step by step guest follow up process and the physical and in-person product that we are using to turn our process hybrid. And I want to give you this box artwork.

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So go ahead and you

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can scrub ahead. You can click the link down below in the description or go to I start talking about the box design

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in

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this YouTube playlist, and you can go ahead and grab that link from us and go check it out. If you're following along here on YouTube, just a reminder there are chapters

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down

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along at the bottom so that you can skip straight ahead to the parts of the video that make the most sense to you.

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But just as a reminder, hybrid is taking your in-person moment and your digital and finding a way to

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intersect them together. So my

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guess is give me a like, if you are the type of person who, when you have a student, you send them

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a

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postcard or go ahead and give me a

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subscribe, if maybe not just a postcard, but

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you're also sending a text message, right?

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So early on I would I would send postcards. That was and I still do send postcards as, the way that I was kind of trained and I even like as a youth group student received postcards and, and I still do believe in the power of the personal touch. And I, I think that mail, does actually play an important role in youth ministry.

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And I think students don't receive mail very often. So I think it's helpful and beneficial for them to get it. Text messages. I do also believe they're important, especially as we talk about hybrid and the intersection of that hybrid being where, it often lands in the hands and in the palms of a student's cell phone. But I don't know about you, but I send a postcard, and it's like

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where I send a text.

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And one time, literally, I got I sent a text from my personal cell phone number, and I got the word stop like, no, no, this was not an automated text like, this is a human being, but okay.

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Got it. I'll stop. So enter Covid when Covid hit. For those of you watching

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Linked Up, here is our 100th episode

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where I did a recap about where this all sort of hybrid thing started, but we created this full scale and full length digital expression of youth ministry like a full, almost like YouTube variety show, Think like Jimmy Fallon, but youth ministry and YouTube.

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And so our Covid experience was so

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of our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you.

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our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you.

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So much. I mean, long gone now were the days of the, unanswered texts or the postcards sent into a black hole. Like, now I'm getting students and parents who are actually acknowledging our efforts and acknowledging us, helping roll out the red carpet to help make them feel welcome. It was a great response, but unfortunately, due to like where I lived and how regionally drawn our churches our church was and how far students drove to to come and attend our campus, and the fact that they could do it online.

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Us they didn't have to

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get in the car and come drive a certain distance to our church. It took me a whole day like I remember one Thursday. So our youth night was Wednesday, one Thursday I spent like 9 to 5 in the car just doing these, these door drops. And so, I was just, you know, I was like, I guess that's part of the job, right?

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I was talking to my boss and I was like, hey, like, I spent my whole Thursday driving around new, so great. And I saw him all the great things. And he's like, you spent your whole day driving. I was like, we can on. Yeah. And he's like, oh, let's, let's, let's change that. And so, what we started doing as opposed to like the physical, me getting in my car, taking it and putting it on their doorstep.

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We started, taking the same concept, getting it to their hands. But instead of me doing it, we started paying the post office to do it as if there were some sort of service that could take something from point A to point B, and that is woven all throughout the fabric of our country being it's the post office.

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So we started shipping things and it was expensive. Don't get me wrong, we created like a branded box, and now it's like we had to include a little bit more than just a duck in a postcard, so that the box didn't seem boring and empty. But we started shipping it. And so, that that strategy, we kind of laid that over and carried that over, here where I work now.

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And it's I started for the first probably like two years of my, my tenure here at this church

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with text message, follow up for first time guess. And I can count on one finger, the amount of times I got a response. And that response was in those two years, the word stop. And so I said, hey, listen, maybe I'm just too old for this.

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Like I'm in my mid 30s and maybe students are like, I that's weird to text the guy in the in his 30s, or maybe text messages to students who they don't have the contact info from, especially from a phone number that it's not local. I live in DFW, Dallas-Fort worth, Texas. My phone number is from Dayton, Ohio. Like there is a massive difference in those two area codes.

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And so they see someone down here with an 807 area code seeing a nine, three seven area code. They don't know what to do with it. So they ghosted as they do. And so I suggest and I propose what if we bring back the boxes. And so what I want to do is I want to share with you this right here.

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This is our welcome box. It's branded. It's custom for us. And so if you look on all the sides, it's got a little, it's great to meet you. It's got, you know, yay! You're here. And then the top here, says welcome, along with a return address and a spot for us to put their address.

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And then on the back, it's got our social handles. And what I want to do is I want to go through step by step, item by item, and, boxes here with you. And so, one of the things that we do is every single, every single semester, but three times a year, we do like a four, we do a winter, and then we do a summer calendar.

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And what we do is we make our calendars into magnets. And so you look here, this is a magnet. It's about eight inches long. And so, truth be told, this box right here is about eight inches, and it's eight inches because the magnet is eight inches. I made the decision to make the box the same size as the magnet.

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And so then I made sure that everything from the size of the magnet on down would be able to fit into the box. So, we put the magnet in there. The magnet has all of our events. And you'll also notice here's an opportunity to go hybrid. This right here is just a link to subscribe to the IX or the calendar type things.

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It's a calendar, extension you can get it from, like creating, a Google calendar, a calendar, a Google calendar calendar. And then you can share that out. And so that's what we did. And so students can add this and subscribe to their calendar. We haven't gotten as many of those from students, but I know we've gotten some scans from parents.

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And also we give specific and particular leader magnet. And so our leaders also can go ahead and scan that. And so that is our magnet. We also have this sticker here, and these frankly, they're just laying around. We got these for free. So these didn't really cost the anything. So so far I want to point out these.

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We already print like we already pay for these for our students. And these are already laying around. So so far we're $0 into the box. Don't worry. It gets more expensive. This right here is just a little, promo, a nod to our social media. And so down the road, we will send them this postcard that simply says, life can be hard.

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You don't have to do it alone. This is a QR code to our link tree. And then here's just a little preview of our churches, YouTube handle right there. And, probably our most popular video, which is what is anxiety? What do I do about it if I have it? And we'll just, God have to say about anxiety.

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And so we will send this out a couple weeks after we send the box out. This is, this is a separate pieces doesn't go in the box that sent later. This is an additional kind of piece of merch. And again, once again, we have just some stuff kind of laying around that we inherited from the old regime.

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And so we try to, like, get rid of it. The little guest box checklist that we have this, and like an extra piece of merch from our merch cabinet. So here's a piece of merch from our merch cabinet. Right here. This one's kind of unique. Okay, we have a lanyard. And the reason that we have a lanyard branded and all the things is that right here, we do, we do pins right?

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Kind of like, think like Disney pin trading. So we'll create pins. And this right here is our little mascot guy. We call him Pugsley the platypus, because a baby platypus is a puggle. So one of our sixth graders one year recommended that we name them Pugsley. And so thus we did. And so we have this lanyard. And I actually have a lanyard for, like, my, staff nametag lanyard.

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And this is full of pins. So like summer camp, Water wars, the Back to School bash, Space Jam night, like any, any event that we deem pin worthy. So coming up, we'll have our Christmas at the movies event. We'll. We've done costume parties. Any of those, they get designed. We just found a dude on Fiverr. He designed these for us.

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And then we send these, after sticker mule and sticker mule creates the pins. And so then we stick this pin. This is the, like, og original. Pugsley pin. It's just a traditional guy. He's just wearing, like, our logo on his t shirt there. And, we put the original pin on the lanyard for the students, and then, right here, this has three for free.

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And this is a, redeemable coupon at our student ministry cafe. They can turn this in and get three things for free. And then, we have these life books and these life books. We've gotten them, from the Gideons, the the Bible translator and the Bible, providers. And so you can actually get these for free.

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And it's just it's like the book of John with like some notes, and it's designed well and graphically. And so you've probably seen these before, and truth be told, I like these. I also like the life and Six words book, that comes from, dare to share. But these we had like three cases of these again from the old regime.

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And so we're like, let's go ahead and give these away. When these run out, we may reorder these. We may do a different sort of devotional, but but this is like the one sort of like devotional, sort of like spiritual peace. And then that's now the emptiness of the box and say, look down at the box there and you'll see, it's got this word right here.

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It's got some copy and it simply says, hey there, we're so glad you joined us. Meet Pugsley, our platypus mascot, voted on and named by our students. We love it when students invest in student ministry. So in this box, you will find everything that you need to get started. And then it's a numbered list. You'll see one, two, three, four.

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Number one. This lanyard is a great spot to hold pins. Number two, we started you with your first one and there's more to come at our Pin events and milestones throughout the year. Number three, this life book is a great place to find out about what Jesus is all about. Number four, some other random stuff because we wanted you to know how glad we are that you joined us.

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We can't wait to get to know you. And then the very last piece of it, my favorite piece of it, the piece that I think makes it hybrid, is right. When you open the box, you see this QR code here and it just says welcome video, scan me. And so we'll have students who are new the open this up

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theoretically on their porch, on their patio, wherever they will scan it.

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And then we'll take them to a video right here. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see a preview of it, but linked right here, linked below is what I want to do is I want to offer you, the art for this box if you want to start creating your own. I'll also, give you like, a detailed tutorial, like where I ordered it from, as well as the copy for the welcome video.

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And you can feel free to film that, throw that on a teleprompter, memorize it however you want to film it, and you can start creating better welcome and better guest returns for your youth ministry and for your student ministry. And once again, here's the reason that I like this is because this, gets them connected to us. This at a very minimum, one of the sections on this video right here says, we're so glad that you came.

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And also welcome to our YouTube channel. And if you've been around this podcast or this YouTube playlist, any link or a YouTube channel, any length of time you know that 95% of teenagers are claiming to be and be active on YouTube. And so therefore, I think we as youth ministries should make that a priority. We and our student ministry have made it a priority.

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And so, I, I think that that's a fantastic way to expose, in a sort of like, non-threatening way, expose your students to your channel, then maybe next time to log in to the YouTube account. One of our video shows up because they've already watched one. Or maybe they like that video. Maybe they subscribe to that video.

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Now we're in their subscriptions with all of our teachings and all of those types of things, which, by the way, I can explain and show to you how to start posting your teachings to YouTube so that they live beyond your Sunday or Wednesday services. That video is going to be linked right here on screen, and I can't wait for you to take a look at that, because we're trying to make digital discipleship here at the Hybrid Ministry Podcast easy, possible and accessible.

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So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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TRANSCRIPT
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So you have a

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brand new student or

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person to your church.

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Hooray!

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Congratulations! That's

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so exciting.

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Now how do

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we make sure that they return well, without seeming

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weird or creepy or old and out of touch?

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So here's the thing. We all want our students to attend our church. We want them also to feel comfortable and then hopefully ultimately find a home at our church or in our group or with our student ministry.

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And so a visitor is great, but a returning guest even better. See in this podcast, in this episode, what I want to do is I'm going to share with you our step by step guest follow up process and the physical and in-person product that we are using to turn our process hybrid. And I want to give you this box artwork.

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So go ahead and you

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can scrub ahead. You can click the link down below in the description or go to I start talking about the box design

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in

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this YouTube playlist, and you can go ahead and grab that link from us and go check it out. If you're following along here on YouTube, just a reminder there are chapters

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down

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along at the bottom so that you can skip straight ahead to the parts of the video that make the most sense to you.

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But just as a reminder, hybrid is taking your in-person moment and your digital and finding a way to

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intersect them together. So my

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guess is give me a like, if you are the type of person who, when you have a student, you send them

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a

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postcard or go ahead and give me a

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subscribe, if maybe not just a postcard, but

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you're also sending a text message, right?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So early on I would I would send postcards. That was and I still do send postcards as, the way that I was kind of trained and I even like as a youth group student received postcards and, and I still do believe in the power of the personal touch. And I, I think that mail, does actually play an important role in youth ministry.

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And I think students don't receive mail very often. So I think it's helpful and beneficial for them to get it. Text messages. I do also believe they're important, especially as we talk about hybrid and the intersection of that hybrid being where, it often lands in the hands and in the palms of a student's cell phone. But I don't know about you, but I send a postcard, and it's like

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where I send a text.

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And one time, literally, I got I sent a text from my personal cell phone number, and I got the word stop like, no, no, this was not an automated text like, this is a human being, but okay.

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Got it. I'll stop. So enter Covid when Covid hit. For those of you watching

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Linked Up, here is our 100th episode

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where I did a recap about where this all sort of hybrid thing started, but we created this full scale and full length digital expression of youth ministry like a full, almost like YouTube variety show, Think like Jimmy Fallon, but youth ministry and YouTube.

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And so our Covid experience was so

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of our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you.

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our show. And so therefore we would drop a rubber duck and a postcard, but we would do a physical door drop at their, house and at their, their door. And so, I would then get students, or even parents come talk to me on the weekends and be like, thank you.

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So much. I mean, long gone now were the days of the, unanswered texts or the postcards sent into a black hole. Like, now I'm getting students and parents who are actually acknowledging our efforts and acknowledging us, helping roll out the red carpet to help make them feel welcome. It was a great response, but unfortunately, due to like where I lived and how regionally drawn our churches our church was and how far students drove to to come and attend our campus, and the fact that they could do it online.

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Us they didn't have to

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get in the car and come drive a certain distance to our church. It took me a whole day like I remember one Thursday. So our youth night was Wednesday, one Thursday I spent like 9 to 5 in the car just doing these, these door drops. And so, I was just, you know, I was like, I guess that's part of the job, right?

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I was talking to my boss and I was like, hey, like, I spent my whole Thursday driving around new, so great. And I saw him all the great things. And he's like, you spent your whole day driving. I was like, we can on. Yeah. And he's like, oh, let's, let's, let's change that. And so, what we started doing as opposed to like the physical, me getting in my car, taking it and putting it on their doorstep.

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We started, taking the same concept, getting it to their hands. But instead of me doing it, we started paying the post office to do it as if there were some sort of service that could take something from point A to point B, and that is woven all throughout the fabric of our country being it's the post office.

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So we started shipping things and it was expensive. Don't get me wrong, we created like a branded box, and now it's like we had to include a little bit more than just a duck in a postcard, so that the box didn't seem boring and empty. But we started shipping it. And so, that that strategy, we kind of laid that over and carried that over, here where I work now.

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And it's I started for the first probably like two years of my, my tenure here at this church

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with text message, follow up for first time guess. And I can count on one finger, the amount of times I got a response. And that response was in those two years, the word stop. And so I said, hey, listen, maybe I'm just too old for this.

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Like I'm in my mid 30s and maybe students are like, I that's weird to text the guy in the in his 30s, or maybe text messages to students who they don't have the contact info from, especially from a phone number that it's not local. I live in DFW, Dallas-Fort worth, Texas. My phone number is from Dayton, Ohio. Like there is a massive difference in those two area codes.

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And so they see someone down here with an 807 area code seeing a nine, three seven area code. They don't know what to do with it. So they ghosted as they do. And so I suggest and I propose what if we bring back the boxes. And so what I want to do is I want to share with you this right here.

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This is our welcome box. It's branded. It's custom for us. And so if you look on all the sides, it's got a little, it's great to meet you. It's got, you know, yay! You're here. And then the top here, says welcome, along with a return address and a spot for us to put their address.

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And then on the back, it's got our social handles. And what I want to do is I want to go through step by step, item by item, and, boxes here with you. And so, one of the things that we do is every single, every single semester, but three times a year, we do like a four, we do a winter, and then we do a summer calendar.

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And what we do is we make our calendars into magnets. And so you look here, this is a magnet. It's about eight inches long. And so, truth be told, this box right here is about eight inches, and it's eight inches because the magnet is eight inches. I made the decision to make the box the same size as the magnet.

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And so then I made sure that everything from the size of the magnet on down would be able to fit into the box. So, we put the magnet in there. The magnet has all of our events. And you'll also notice here's an opportunity to go hybrid. This right here is just a link to subscribe to the IX or the calendar type things.

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It's a calendar, extension you can get it from, like creating, a Google calendar, a calendar, a Google calendar calendar. And then you can share that out. And so that's what we did. And so students can add this and subscribe to their calendar. We haven't gotten as many of those from students, but I know we've gotten some scans from parents.

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And also we give specific and particular leader magnet. And so our leaders also can go ahead and scan that. And so that is our magnet. We also have this sticker here, and these frankly, they're just laying around. We got these for free. So these didn't really cost the anything. So so far I want to point out these.

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We already print like we already pay for these for our students. And these are already laying around. So so far we're $0 into the box. Don't worry. It gets more expensive. This right here is just a little, promo, a nod to our social media. And so down the road, we will send them this postcard that simply says, life can be hard.

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You don't have to do it alone. This is a QR code to our link tree. And then here's just a little preview of our churches, YouTube handle right there. And, probably our most popular video, which is what is anxiety? What do I do about it if I have it? And we'll just, God have to say about anxiety.

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And so we will send this out a couple weeks after we send the box out. This is, this is a separate pieces doesn't go in the box that sent later. This is an additional kind of piece of merch. And again, once again, we have just some stuff kind of laying around that we inherited from the old regime.

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And so we try to, like, get rid of it. The little guest box checklist that we have this, and like an extra piece of merch from our merch cabinet. So here's a piece of merch from our merch cabinet. Right here. This one's kind of unique. Okay, we have a lanyard. And the reason that we have a lanyard branded and all the things is that right here, we do, we do pins right?

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Kind of like, think like Disney pin trading. So we'll create pins. And this right here is our little mascot guy. We call him Pugsley the platypus, because a baby platypus is a puggle. So one of our sixth graders one year recommended that we name them Pugsley. And so thus we did. And so we have this lanyard. And I actually have a lanyard for, like, my, staff nametag lanyard.

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And this is full of pins. So like summer camp, Water wars, the Back to School bash, Space Jam night, like any, any event that we deem pin worthy. So coming up, we'll have our Christmas at the movies event. We'll. We've done costume parties. Any of those, they get designed. We just found a dude on Fiverr. He designed these for us.

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And then we send these, after sticker mule and sticker mule creates the pins. And so then we stick this pin. This is the, like, og original. Pugsley pin. It's just a traditional guy. He's just wearing, like, our logo on his t shirt there. And, we put the original pin on the lanyard for the students, and then, right here, this has three for free.

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And this is a, redeemable coupon at our student ministry cafe. They can turn this in and get three things for free. And then, we have these life books and these life books. We've gotten them, from the Gideons, the the Bible translator and the Bible, providers. And so you can actually get these for free.

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And it's just it's like the book of John with like some notes, and it's designed well and graphically. And so you've probably seen these before, and truth be told, I like these. I also like the life and Six words book, that comes from, dare to share. But these we had like three cases of these again from the old regime.

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And so we're like, let's go ahead and give these away. When these run out, we may reorder these. We may do a different sort of devotional, but but this is like the one sort of like devotional, sort of like spiritual peace. And then that's now the emptiness of the box and say, look down at the box there and you'll see, it's got this word right here.

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It's got some copy and it simply says, hey there, we're so glad you joined us. Meet Pugsley, our platypus mascot, voted on and named by our students. We love it when students invest in student ministry. So in this box, you will find everything that you need to get started. And then it's a numbered list. You'll see one, two, three, four.

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Number one. This lanyard is a great spot to hold pins. Number two, we started you with your first one and there's more to come at our Pin events and milestones throughout the year. Number three, this life book is a great place to find out about what Jesus is all about. Number four, some other random stuff because we wanted you to know how glad we are that you joined us.

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We can't wait to get to know you. And then the very last piece of it, my favorite piece of it, the piece that I think makes it hybrid, is right. When you open the box, you see this QR code here and it just says welcome video, scan me. And so we'll have students who are new the open this up

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theoretically on their porch, on their patio, wherever they will scan it.

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And then we'll take them to a video right here. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see a preview of it, but linked right here, linked below is what I want to do is I want to offer you, the art for this box if you want to start creating your own. I'll also, give you like, a detailed tutorial, like where I ordered it from, as well as the copy for the welcome video.

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And you can feel free to film that, throw that on a teleprompter, memorize it however you want to film it, and you can start creating better welcome and better guest returns for your youth ministry and for your student ministry. And once again, here's the reason that I like this is because this, gets them connected to us. This at a very minimum, one of the sections on this video right here says, we're so glad that you came.

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And also welcome to our YouTube channel. And if you've been around this podcast or this YouTube playlist, any link or a YouTube channel, any length of time you know that 95% of teenagers are claiming to be and be active on YouTube. And so therefore, I think we as youth ministries should make that a priority. We and our student ministry have made it a priority.

00:14:10:21 - 00:14:27:22
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And so, I, I think that that's a fantastic way to expose, in a sort of like, non-threatening way, expose your students to your channel, then maybe next time to log in to the YouTube account. One of our video shows up because they've already watched one. Or maybe they like that video. Maybe they subscribe to that video.

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Now we're in their subscriptions with all of our teachings and all of those types of things, which, by the way, I can explain and show to you how to start posting your teachings to YouTube so that they live beyond your Sunday or Wednesday services. That video is going to be linked right here on screen, and I can't wait for you to take a look at that, because we're trying to make digital discipleship here at the Hybrid Ministry Podcast easy, possible and accessible.

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So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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He works over at Download Youth Ministry. He does all the stuff with sidekick and he does, stuff with co-leader and Josh, honestly, I believe is one of, if not the greatest programing specialist for youth ministries in America. 00:00:23:19 - 00:00:43:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm really excited for you to hear it because some of his ideas are absolutely fantastic. But what we're gonna do is we're going to be debating between in-person and digital, and you're going to see me try to lean everything back towards hybrid. And what we're doing is he's bringing a youth ministry programing sheet and he's saying, this is what we're doing. 00:00:43:13 - 00:01:02:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How do we make it digital? How do we, honor the people that might be watching online and more? I try to say, how can we make it hybrid? And so for those of you who are new here, hybrid is taking your in-person, taking your digital and finding a way to meet that intersection. And in most cases, I think that is at the intersection of students cell phones. 00:01:02:01 - 00:01:11:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you're going to see that this debate between digital versus in-person. So welcome to the show, the one and only Josh Boardman. 00:01:11:12 - 00:01:23:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well what's up everybody. I'm here this morning with my good friend Josh Bullman. And we have a little bit of a unique idea. So Josh, tell the people what we're doing okay. 00:01:23:01 - 00:01:30:29 Josh Boldman So as anyone watching slash listening knows, Nick Claussen is all about the hybrid ministry, right? 00:01:30:29 - 00:01:53:19 Josh Boldman Making sure that the people that are at home are still connecting with what's happening in the room. Yeah. I spent most of my ministry, like, developing, and leading services in the room. And then, you know, Covid happened and things got crazy, and we we did a full pendulum swing to where, like, we did everything online. Yeah. 00:01:53:20 - 00:02:02:13 Josh Boldman And then we came back and suddenly it was like, wait, are we still doing online or are we like, what are we doing? You know? And so it was the constant challenge of 00:02:02:13 - 00:02:11:27 Josh Boldman trying to not just, create something in the room and just stream it, right, like, make it more interactive. So yeah. So today 00:02:11:27 - 00:02:12:18 Josh Boldman what 00:02:12:18 - 00:02:19:29 Josh Boldman we're doing is I have got a service that I've created for in the room, and I'm going to walk us through it. 00:02:20:02 - 00:02:26:26 Josh Boldman And Nick is going to in real time because he has not seen it. Now you guys gotta know, I offered. I was like, 00:02:26:26 - 00:02:48:05 Josh Boldman dude, do you want this ahead? And we could just fake it? And he's like, no, no, too much integrity. Way too much. Yeah. And so he's going to try like as we go to, we're going to think through each, each section and try and figure out what is it that we can do to make this something that people who are not in the room, you know, but the students at home. 00:02:48:07 - 00:03:08:03 Josh Boldman And I'm curious, Nick, if this is, you know, maybe something we look at is, is it if they're watching live or even if they're watching later, like, how does that impact, well, your ability to participate. 00:03:08:03 - 00:03:11:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So yeah, and to be clear, like the way that I define hybrid is like it's the it's the two pieces. So your in-person plus your digital and it's like them coming 00:03:11:17 - 00:03:11:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry together. 00:03:11:27 - 00:03:19:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so there may be elements I think a little more what I might try to do is like take, take what is going on in the room and find a way 00:03:19:22 - 00:03:44:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to allow it to exist beyond that moment. Yeah. Or find a way to intersect a student, like in a spot like their phone that will that will last beyond that, the time that you dismiss them to go home so they can take it home, like youth ministry, typically pre-digital, could only exist in the few hours that our church doors were open. 00:03:44:04 - 00:04:13:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so now we have the advantage of being able to access sometimes it's, you know, a curse versus a blessing, but we have the advantage of being able to access and have conversation with and disciple our students at a time that Wednesday night programing or Sunday morning or Sunday night programing isn't happening. And how can we take what we're doing in the room and offer it to students beyond that moment, or even in your place in what you were saying, maybe even as a replacement of it? 00:04:13:22 - 00:04:28:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So, like Josh said, I haven't seen any of this. I am a little nervous right now. Like earlier I was like, I'm fine, but now I'm a little nervous as I like get together. I got to be totally honest. I'm like, there are parts of it. Or I was like, oh, I can totally see how this is going to work. 00:04:28:05 - 00:04:42:24 Josh Boldman And then there are other parts where I'm like, I don't know what he's going to do, how this is going to. Yeah. So bear with me. Stream of consciousness. And it may not be perfect and polished, but that's okay. That's what we're here for. So all right, let's do it. What is the first part of your service? 00:04:42:24 - 00:04:44:09 Josh Boldman The five minute countdown. 00:04:44:13 - 00:04:45:20 Josh Boldman Right. Okay, so we've got 00:04:45:20 - 00:05:19:08 Josh Boldman students are in the room, they're playing nine square, they're playing gaga ball. They've got they're not paying attention to the countdown. Nobody cares what like someone spent a lot of time creating a countdown. Yeah, but ultimately no one cares about until it, like, reaches 10s. But there's there's a lot of interaction happening. And so, like, trying to think through is there is there something where we're trying to connect with students that are not in the room, or is there something we can do in the room to help students know, hey, it's not just you here. 00:05:19:08 - 00:05:43:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There's yeah, there's more than that going on. Yeah. So one of the things about five minute countdowns that I actually hate, and I know that as talking to a guy who works for Download Youth Ministry, and that's where a lot of the money is made and a lot of five minute countdowns are sold. I actually prefer, which, by the way, talking to you right now, let this be an unofficial sidekick feature 00:05:43:09 - 00:05:44:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry request. 00:05:44:18 - 00:05:58:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah. Because right now in sidekick, you can, you can loop your announcements, right? You can loop some, like, graphic slides. And I actually prefer that to be the five minute countdown with 00:05:58:07 - 00:06:11:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry just the five minute countdown overlaid in the corner, so that all of the announcements that you're announcing and trying to let your students know about are happening, is being seen on the screen. 00:06:11:03 - 00:06:22:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because if you think about it, if if the majority of people don't start paying attention to the screen until it's down to less than a minute, they missed all of the stuff that was looping ahead of time. 00:06:22:16 - 00:06:37:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the stuff that's looping ahead of time is the stuff that you want them to know about. And so whether it's hybrid, whether it's digital only or whether it's in person, like whatever you're announcing, I think you should leave that stuff on the screen as long as humanly possible. 00:06:37:20 - 00:06:56:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're able to put a little five minute countdown in the corner or even across the middle, but I try to design my slides in such a way that I think, like, all right, I'm going to do the left corner of this time and keep stuff out of the left corner. And so then we may have like our current series graphic, we may have an upcoming events. 00:06:56:02 - 00:07:13:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like at the time of recording, we got our costume party coming up and Christmas is on the horizon. So those types of things are there. But woven in my announcements, I might try to do, well, I what we do right now is like, I advertise our online baptism 00:07:13:19 - 00:07:22:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry course, which is a YouTube playlist. And there are so many times, like almost all of my slides at this point, have a QR code to you. 00:07:22:24 - 00:07:42:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Do you remember when the QR code was dying? Like, yeah, no one used it. So lame. Like, I remember having this conversation in a church staff meeting where it was like we could put a QR code on it. And I remember some would be like, does anyone use those? And the answer was no. Yeah. And then but now 00:07:42:25 - 00:07:46:18 Josh Boldman how else would we get the menu at restaurants like this? 00:07:46:20 - 00:08:14:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I think I had the same meeting because at during Covid the question was how do we communicate things without handing things to people and passing germs? Yeah. And I suggested a QR code and I quote from our communications team, we will never use a QR code. And I kid you not, not two weeks later, what was on the screen, because it was the only way to do it and it made a comeback. 00:08:14:00 - 00:08:35:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I actually I've always thought QR codes were brilliant. They didn't get adopted early on, but now they're back and they make so much sense. So yeah, we have a subscription to like a QR code builder. I get like 160 different like unique QR codes. And so I abuse that. And so oh yeah, our baptism course, our text list like all of these things. 00:08:35:11 - 00:09:05:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if a student during the five minute countdown, isn't playing nine square and they're kind of sitting already in the service or don't have anyone to talk to or something on the screen, does happen to sort of like catch their attention. They can pull their phone out. They can scan the QR code and they can get to it later, whether that be signing up for our text group, which will allow them access, or us access to them to send them encouraging messages or even just announcement type things, or even like discipleship related things like, hey, I'm ready to take a next step about baptism. 00:09:05:08 - 00:09:12:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let me explore more about that through the baptism playlist. So all right, so there you go. That's what I would do. All right. 00:09:12:18 - 00:09:17:19 Josh Boldman So at zero, usually what we'll do is we'll, we'll jump right into 00:09:17:19 - 00:09:17:29 Josh Boldman the first 00:09:17:29 - 00:09:31:12 Josh Boldman song. Right. And so our, our group, we had a live band. So that was, I mean, I, you know, it's one of those things where every time you talk about having a student band, this could go one of two very different ways. 00:09:31:15 - 00:09:51:29 Josh Boldman And I will say, like, I've been really blessed to be at churches where, we had a really good, like, solid student led band that, I mean, had a, a track record of what I would say is in the neighborhood of 82%, like, okay, this is going to be a four out of five that it's going to go, well, so like so it would, it would hit pretty well. 00:09:51:29 - 00:10:08:10 Josh Boldman And that was kind of in the room that was like the, the oh, oh we're starting like you know, so everybody's like getting getting into their seats getting music hits. Yeah. Yeah. And so I mean obviously in the room you got lyrics on the screen, you got we got, you know, some cameras going and stuff like that. 00:10:08:11 - 00:10:31:02 Josh Boldman So yeah, like for, for worship on the live stream for people after like, are you like, is there anything different that you feel like you can do to set up to help again, the room feel like they're a part of what's happening at home and vice versa. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of different ideas. Let me first say, Josh, you might find this surprising. 00:10:31:13 - 00:10:55:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and the church I'm at now, I've been here two years. This is the first church in. You know, I guess by the time I moved here is, like, 12 years. So my first 12 years of ministry, I did not have a regular live worship band. Oh, yeah. Everywhere I've been prior, like, for one reason or another, the band didn't really, like, Take Root. 00:10:55:17 - 00:11:15:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I didn't try to kill it, but I also didn't have a massive like, that's not my bent. I'm not a worship guy. I can't play any instruments. And so I'm not trying to get that thing up and off the ground. And so for sure, I've had we've had worship at camps and retreats and at like one off worship nights and stuff like that, but not on like a regular, like rhythm. 00:11:15:09 - 00:11:38:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so let me just say to those of you out there in the majority of churches, right, like that, probably don't have a live stream, let's just be honest. And they may you might not even have quality like music means to pull off worship like I feel is. I mean, you know, you can be the judge of this, but I feel as though I did really good youth ministry for 12 years without a band. 00:11:38:19 - 00:12:02:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I and I don't even know, like in a, you know, in a typical youth service, it's what it's a little more like geared towards outsiders. Oftentimes I don't know that getting up there and singing about the blood of Jesus is often the most welcoming thing for an outsider. And so sometimes you may be shooting yourself in the foot, all in an effort to try and copy what you think youth ministries should be doing, which is worship. 00:12:02:24 - 00:12:22:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you can program around worship. It's going to require a lot more creativity, which is essentially the basis of this episode. Like finding ways to be a little bit more creative with your programing and whatnot. So I'll only say that as an encouragement. Don't feel like you have to jam a worship band into like a space if it's not working. 00:12:22:12 - 00:12:47:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Not fitting the context isn't right, whatever the case may be. Yeah, I've always felt like we we were at places where we tried doing the, you know, the lyric videos, you know, that kind of thing. And it would, it would work in like seasons. But there were times we were just like, okay, this feels like we're showing them a video that they are begrudgingly watching for. 00:12:47:07 - 00:13:04:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah, 5.5 minutes. And then they sit down and it's like, okay, well, if it doesn't work, doesn't work. Like don't, don't force that. Yeah, that I think that probably hurts more than it helps if it feels like you're forcing it. Yeah. So take back to answer your specific question about what to do 00:13:04:07 - 00:13:11:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry about worship. Like, I will say when I'm thinking about in-person versus online, online, 00:13:11:25 - 00:13:20:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in my opinion, is a fantastic content delivery system like podcasts, sermons can be podcasts, sermons can be YouTube videos. 00:13:20:27 - 00:13:32:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like that is what the internet is made for, right? What in person is made for that the internet can't always overcome is certain things like community. And one of those things I think it has 00:13:32:02 - 00:13:37:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry a hard time overcoming is live, in-person worship, shoulder to shoulder like 00:13:37:23 - 00:13:47:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry they're watching during Covid, watching worship online, versus watching worship in the room was a completely different experience. 00:13:47:04 - 00:14:06:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I sat in my recliner. I did not stand. I did not sing. I maybe like sung under my breath. But you know, I'm not getting up in my living room and like, worshiping like I would at church. And so that is, you know, one of the, in my opinion, advantages of in-person, I will say a couple ideas. 00:14:06:16 - 00:14:29:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One, during Covid, our church, I thought was fantastically innovative and our worship was not just like a band on a stage. It was like they were shot almost like a music video. And especially during Covid, all the individual musicians, like, they recorded all their parts and then they sent them back and then the editors, like, spliced it all together. 00:14:29:03 - 00:14:46:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Wow. It was so good. And of course, that wasn't sustainable. But when they pulled the plug on that, I was that that wasn't a youth ministry thing. But when they pulled the plug on that, I thought that was a big, big mistake because it was very good. And they went back to like an easier route. And I felt like it. 00:14:46:01 - 00:15:09:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It took away some of what made our online presence pretty, pretty good. Oh, yeah. But for the kids in the room for the hybrid, like, hey, how do we, like, let this, this attitude of worship live beyond, I mean, very simply, like, you can create a greatest hits like Spotify playlist of all the best worship songs that you and your students that they love. 00:15:09:15 - 00:15:28:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I especially like to do this for camps or retreats. I'll create the playlist even ahead of time, and I'll like float it out and I'll sneak it out via like our text lists, our social media so that people can grab Ahold of it. And so even if in the room, if you wanted to have one of those little Spotify, it's not a QR code, but it's similar to it. 00:15:28:01 - 00:15:38:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like you scan Spotify's version of it and you can join the playlist, and, you know, even be cool. I'm come with this idea on the fly. You could create like a collaborative 00:15:38:18 - 00:15:49:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry like playlist, like our church's favorite worship songs, and it's a public playlist. And anyone with a Spotify account can go in and they can add their favorite worship songs. 00:15:49:13 - 00:16:02:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then you just got to keep that kind of front and center, like, hey, throughout the week. Like, hey, don't forget we got this, you know, collaborative worship playlist. If you know you want to worship God throughout this week, take a listen. Nice I like that. Yeah. 00:16:02:14 - 00:16:16:19 Josh Boldman Something something that we did, during Covid was we would ask at the end of the service to, say like, hey, if there are songs that really speak to you like we want to do, you know, we want to lead you in those songs. 00:16:16:19 - 00:16:29:26 Josh Boldman So it was kind of like a, hey, this week, let us know what songs you'd like to do next week, like that kind of a thing. I mean, I, I don't know that that was like super, super well-received, but it was, it was something. Right? It was at least something that that allowed a little bit back and forth. 00:16:29:29 - 00:16:39:13 Josh Boldman Yeah. So we, we, we usually do one song, ready to tap, and then we would go into our hosting time. So where we, we would have two 00:16:39:13 - 00:16:53:18 Josh Boldman volunteers, usually an adult and a student. If not it would be two adults. And you know, the I will be the first to say it was always hit or miss like every time. 00:16:53:25 - 00:17:10:02 Josh Boldman And you know, because you're always like, oh that person's personality, you know. Yeah. It's like because you get because like people who are super nervous on stage. I totally get it. But it would be like you'd sit down with them, be like, they would want to know what is the what is the content of the announcement? Right? 00:17:10:03 - 00:17:21:17 Josh Boldman It's like, okay, well, I can tell you that, like, for sure, we'll make sure you got that. And for them it was like as long as I know the information, I'm good. And it's, you know, there is there is more to this game than that, friend. But yeah, 00:17:21:17 - 00:17:28:03 Josh Boldman one of the ways that we found to kind of help that process was we started doing the wheel of announcements. 00:17:28:04 - 00:17:47:02 Josh Boldman You I love that sidekick. And and and the the best part, right is you can you can game the system. Right? You can tell it which was so we would have like, say if there were four announcements. That's too many. You know, I'd say three max. Yeah. But like so whatever number of announcements there were, we would always have one more. 00:17:47:04 - 00:18:09:18 Josh Boldman And that wheel wedge was always like, everyone gets $100, you know, whatever. And so like, you have to make sure that the person in your booth, oh, man, you have to trust that person or, that could cost you dearly. Yeah. Like, oh, man. But it was great because it really was random. Yeah, but it would. 00:18:09:18 - 00:18:29:15 Josh Boldman But especially when it would get down to the last two wedges and it was like half the wheel is everyone gets $100. And the other was like, you know, church picnic or whatever, and you spin it and it just like slowly goes. It's like, oh, you know, and it was great. Like, but it kept, you know, because the students in the room, they don't care about half the announcements you're giving. 00:18:29:15 - 00:18:43:21 Josh Boldman But it was kind of fun every time it would pass the $100 thing, you know, that they'd want to see it. And so we would just change it to a new thing every week. And sometimes it would be they'd win a prize or there would be like, you know, something embarrassing that the person on stage would have to do. 00:18:43:24 - 00:19:05:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But that's a different way to gamify it so that it's more interesting than I've episode that talked about, like, stop posting announcements to social media like, no one cares and no one is getting on social media to know what's going on in your youth ministry. They'll they you do want them to know like it's just you're using it's the wrong like medium for it. 00:19:05:17 - 00:19:30:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so a lot of times in the same way we do announcement times of this service in our church, like we do need to get these things across. Yeah. But I think that like, you know, this isn't a direct answer to the question, but like, how how do you hybridize your announcements or like, how do you get your announcements across in like a, a different way than just like the host moment or the announcement moment in your planning center service rundown? 00:19:30:00 - 00:19:49:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like you, you use the mediums all all throughout the rest of the like, all throughout the rest of your like repertoire that you have to your advantage so you can post those. I do say you can post announcements to social media. You just have to be creative with it. Like one of my favorites is. I'll follow the link down below. 00:19:49:28 - 00:20:07:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But like those transition style videos. Have you seen the one where the dudes getting speared in the back by like a bull, and then people are diving into like, their rows of chairs? Like, yep. Do those like, get your you can still tell people on social media about what's going on your church. Just make it actually creative. 00:20:07:19 - 00:20:25:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic like no one. All right, you ready? You ready for some? I just thought like this. Like yes. Head right is right. So, so you could during your announcement time, you could record that video with your students, like. Yes. So that would be in the moment. You're like, hey, here's what we're gonna do. 00:20:25:24 - 00:20:43:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We got this thing coming up. We want to let everybody know about it. Here's, you know what it's going to be like, let's let's do this real quick. And yeah, just and you know what else? Like what else could you do? You could, random name generator. Your your contestant, you could, then get them up there and then what does that do. 00:20:43:01 - 00:20:44:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's a nod to your socials. 00:20:44:17 - 00:21:01:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so while you're announcing, you throw a graphic on screen that says we're social, it's guy QR codes, a link tree of all of your social handles. And the people in the room like, hey, go follow this because we're going to post this tomorrow. And that's been like, I'm going to, that's one of the things we've done in our youth ministry. 00:21:01:29 - 00:21:24:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We've created a social team and a social challenge component of every night of our youth ministry. And so students know they can go into our studio. We have a studio like it's bougie. All right, I get it. You can see the tour down below, but like, they know they can go in there and they can get on camera with their friends, and then eventually they're going to be the star on our social media. 00:21:25:02 - 00:21:50:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And it helps create like a little more appetite for it than just the youth pastors being like the the talent on social media. No one wants that, right? Unless we're looking stupid. Are you saying we're not as cool as we think we are? Is that okay? It depends how you think of yourself as true. You know, if you have a, if you're like very self-aware, then you probably know you're not very cool. 00:21:50:03 - 00:21:58:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're in your 30s or 40, to be honest. Okay. So then we transition into a game. 00:21:58:02 - 00:21:59:13 Josh Boldman And this was 00:21:59:13 - 00:22:17:10 Josh Boldman always like, so we had two different things that we we've tried off and on. One is the winner of the game gets to spin a wheel for a prize and it's just numbers on a wheel. And then we had like shoeboxes and it was like, you know, you win box number seven and then you get the box, open it up. 00:22:17:10 - 00:22:34:02 Josh Boldman And it's either a great prize or terrible prize, something like that. I love that, and I'm probably stealing that. Now that you just said that, is it. Honestly it was pretty cool. Like and that's like a YouTube video right there. That's like Ryan's world, you know. Yeah. And it wouldn't let you do is it let you not always have to keep buying awesome prizes? Josh Boldman Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah. Because oh man it was. And what you so like at the very beginning we would tell people like you know, so like we, we change them out every quarter or something like that and it would be like, hey, just so you know, in these 12 boxes, there are, a $10 Apple gift card. There's, you know, you know, just you tell them kind of, hey, here are a couple of the big things are in here. 00:22:55:16 - 00:23:13:12 Josh Boldman Yeah. And then just as you get it, you know, one week, person rolls, number five. Great. They get box five. So then you just take that one off the list, and so you don't even have to, like, buy a new prize every week. You just have to have it all loaded upfront and you just put like, old crap that's laying around your church into those boxes, too. 00:23:13:13 - 00:23:34:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So good, so good. Right? It could be any. I mean, just honestly, anything, it's a mug, anything good. Right? It says you're voted most likely to need coffee. Like. Oh, yeah, that one that is, the other thing that we started doing was we do we did the impossible shot. Yeah. So yeah, the deal is like the traditional 00:23:34:15 - 00:23:41:04 Josh Boldman impossible shot has always been like, if you are here for the first time or you were the person who invited that person for 00:23:41:04 - 00:23:44:12 Josh Boldman the first time, you get to take a shot at this impossibly small target. 00:23:44:19 - 00:24:07:03 Josh Boldman And if it goes through, you win a prize. But we, we started doing is the winner of the game, got to take the shot. And so it even made it, like, more, you know, your chance of winning the game was small. Yeah. And then that makes you even smaller. And we would add every week, we would add to the bucket of what do you win if you get the impossible shot. 00:24:07:03 - 00:24:23:13 Josh Boldman And so like you started out with it's a bunch of candy. Okay. Then it's like one of every candy and then it's like, all right, gift card, you know, and so you just kind of slowly build it, until somebody wins it. It was one of the things we did. But I'm curious, like, so the possible shot rate is, agrees it. 00:24:23:13 - 00:24:42:19 Josh Boldman So we would like. That's what I set up in this one was winner of the game. And the game would be like, where's the ball? We're doing doing 100. Probably by the time this is out, we will have already done it. So. Yeah. So, signed up for next year. But, one of the things that I made was a, a game called Where's the ball? 00:24:42:19 - 00:24:59:09 Josh Boldman Obscure sports edition. Yeah. And so it's like link down below. Go give Josh goodness. Yeah. No, it'll be actually, you know, it'll be free in sidekick. So if you, if you have. Yeah. It'll be one of those like click on the little free button at the top and the little red dot pops up and you're like, oh my goodness me. 00:24:59:12 - 00:25:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But it's like I need to look at that more frequently than I do. Yeah you do, I don't. Yeah, it's there's some good stuff in there. So the sports I've got are curling, I've got ax throwing, I've got, Oh, have you ever heard of cycle ball? No. Basically like soccer. But you play on bicycles. 00:25:17:27 - 00:25:39:14 Josh Boldman Okay. Who's the front wheel of the bike to kick the ball? It's sane. Sounds insane. And I feel as though I would die. Horribly dangerous. The other one is unicycle hockey, which is exactly what it sounds like. And it is magical. But but that is, you know, I mean, so one of the things like that, what we when I first started making the where's the ball games, right. 00:25:39:14 - 00:25:44:24 Josh Boldman That was very much you had to be in the room to make it work. But then with sidekick, we've done where it's voting 00:25:44:24 - 00:25:52:00 Josh Boldman now. And so we worked really hard, especially during Covid and after, to make it wear our, when we were live 00:25:52:00 - 00:25:59:00 Josh Boldman streaming that it was as low lag as possible. So people at home really could also vote in. 00:25:59:06 - 00:26:16:02 Josh Boldman And we got it, you know, down to like, I think you can without too much trouble. You can get the lag down to like three four seconds. Not too bad. Yeah. And so we would do that where you could see on the screen, you know, people voting, that kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah, so we did that, but then so impossible 00:26:16:02 - 00:26:16:13 Josh Boldman shot. 00:26:16:15 - 00:26:16:26 Josh Boldman That 00:26:16:26 - 00:26:18:01 Josh Boldman is a in the room 00:26:18:01 - 00:26:40:16 Josh Boldman phenomenon. Yep. Is there anything we could you can do to make that, something that someone at home feels like they're able to connect with? Or is it really just a show? The highlight. And and they get to celebrate if it happened? Yeah. I mean, like, if it's a true live stream, which again, like I said earlier, not a lot of youth ministries have like full live streaming capabilities. 00:26:40:18 - 00:27:01:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So even what we do, what I recommend to a lot of people is like most people are not interested in tuning in to your full youth service, like, so we pre-record all of our messages for YouTube into like a 12 minute, like teaching type of deal. So like that's what I would recommend. Like that's what people are getting on YouTube in the internet for. 00:27:02:01 - 00:27:12:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Is there a way to reclaim a live stream impossible shot type moment like there might be like a sort of like voting type thing. Like, do you think that they 00:27:12:07 - 00:27:21:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry can get it or not? You're going to need a moderator in your chat to like initiate that poll. So like let's say you won and it's like, congratulations to Josh. 00:27:21:10 - 00:27:40:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Will Josh hit the impossible shot yes or no? And they can vote there in the poll like in the chat or something like that. I think like YouTube or maybe Facebook has some of that like functionality built in. But what I might do like a as an alternative to the impossible shot or depending on your game. 00:27:40:27 - 00:27:50:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Like, one of my favorite styles of games is creating like, you can do like those, like sculpture, building types of games or like, let 00:27:50:14 - 00:28:14:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry students in teams create something together. And then you can, like, take pictures of all of them and they can vote on them either. Oh, I like that on sidekick live in the room or what we've done in the past is we've said, hey, these are going to be on our Instagram Stories, go vote on them, and then we'll announce the winner on Sunday, which is like our next meeting time or what I like that I like. 00:28:14:27 - 00:28:29:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the winning group will get a pizza party next week. Yeah. And so, you know, like, those are different. Those are just different ideas, obviously. So to answer your question, I would try to just create like, a poll type of thing. I think that's. Yeah. That's the best idea. I got the top of my head right now. 00:28:29:29 - 00:28:32:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's, but some other, like, ideas 00:28:32:06 - 00:28:56:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and let me jump in and say, in the land of prizes, another great like, free to you prize is, so we are our set up is, round tables. And so you oftentimes your table is your team in whatever sort of thing you're competing in game trivia, whatever. And so a lot of times we'll, let the winning team go sit in what we call the best seats in the house. 00:28:57:00 - 00:29:14:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so we'll put some, like, couches in, like, nicer seats than, like, the tables there. And then we'll just stuff that area full of, like, snacks and drinks, and they get to sit there during like the teaching time. And oftentimes we have all the snacks and drinks on hand, and it's just couches that we have laying around, but they're nicer than tables. 00:29:14:07 - 00:29:32:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you can give students that opportunity. It's similar to like your your box of prizes type of thing. So it in the box are prizes. One of the things we learned was, I kept forgetting to refill the boxes and so, what we started putting in the boxes as as a prize was pizza party for your small group next week? 00:29:32:25 - 00:29:51:01 Josh Boldman Yeah, yeah. Like, you know. So it's always like a hey, you want it right now, but you're going to get it next year. So it would get kids to come back next week. But also if like say that small group won and they had five kids that night, next week they're going to have 15. Like it's just it's crazy because they know like oh yeah we won the prizes. 00:29:51:01 - 00:30:09:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah. So and then you didn't order enough pizza ever. It's just so, you know you know it's something you'll see in the Facebook group a lot is the do I on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. How many pizzas should I order for a thing? I always order too much because then it's lunch for me for the rest of the week. 00:30:10:06 - 00:30:29:04 Josh Boldman It's like, oh, they're good. That's how it. Yeah. The secret. I think that might be embezzlement. I'm not sure now that. Yeah, whatever. It's okay. We can cut that part out. Yeah. Whatever it, So there we go from there. We might, at that point do another song. But then we're going to go to a bumper video and you answer the lesson. 00:30:29:04 - 00:30:30:28 Josh Boldman Now, the lesson that, 00:30:30:28 - 00:30:33:02 Josh Boldman I'm doing this week is going to be, 00:30:33:02 - 00:30:39:01 Josh Boldman on, Peter walking on water. Okay. And in the the idea is the big idea for it is 00:30:39:01 - 00:30:52:28 Josh Boldman that your first step is meant to be followed by a second step. So it's like, the whole idea is like momentum, things like that. So the way that we would do this and we did this, and I can, I can send you pictures of how we did it. 00:30:53:01 - 00:31:16:29 Josh Boldman We built this basically like this trough, and we covered it in plastic sheets. And then we put a tarp over that, and then we filled it with cornstarch and water, as you put it, at the right consistency. It's a it's a, it's a substance called oobleck or a non-Newtonian fluid. Okay. Which means if you just touch it it's liquid. 00:31:16:29 - 00:31:25:23 Josh Boldman But if you hit it, it's solid, like it's crazy cool seeing it, right? Yeah. And so what that means is if you again, if you get the right 00:31:25:23 - 00:31:38:10 Josh Boldman consistency, if you run on it, you can run completely on top of it. You will not see no way. But any point that you stop, you will sink right in like it's over. 00:31:38:12 - 00:31:58:28 Josh Boldman And so what we would do is, is so yeah, that's the idea. Right? So Peter, Jesus calls him out on the water. He starts walking. It's working. But then as soon as he stops, he looks down. He starts to sink. And so Jesus gives him, you know, a bit of a, a talking to and, and so then, you know, then they he reaches out, pulls Peter back up, they climb back in the boat. 00:31:59:02 - 00:32:21:17 Josh Boldman And so, what we're trying to tell the kids is like, hey, yeah, we want everybody to take a first step. You know? We all know what else we want. You. We want you to like. First step gives you momentum. Just keep taking steps like keep going. Yeah. And so, so the way we would end this service is in this is probably in the room going to be chaos. 00:32:21:19 - 00:32:40:10 Josh Boldman And I'm I'm very comfortable with that especially like because it's so it's going to end with communion. Right. And so that which is not you know I've been in different groups where, where we've done communion every week. I've done groups where we do it like literally hardly ever. And, you know, and so this was one day where we did it every week. 00:32:40:13 - 00:33:05:07 Josh Boldman And but what I would do is I would set that that, that trough up. So that students, in order to go and get the communion elements, get to run across the thing, to go get the cookie. So it's like, hey, that you're, you're chasing after Jesus, you're, you're taking this first step and you're not stopping. So like I said, you know, normally like communion is a fairly like somber time. 00:33:05:07 - 00:33:24:23 Josh Boldman This would not be that because it would be a bit chaotic. But and they'd be taking their shoes off and they, you know, running across, but then, then they get the elements and they would take them right there, and then they then they go back to their seat. And so we would one we'd have to figure out stuff for the students to do when they're back in their seat. 00:33:24:25 - 00:33:59:26 Josh Boldman Yeah. Because that, you know, it's going to take a minute. Yeah. They watching all that. But I mean, it wouldn't be like, you know, super, super engaging. But but the moment of running across, they absolutely loved it. Like, I mean, it was just the coolest thing ever. Yeah. So like but and then we would dismiss the small groups, but it's that that type of experience is, is really like a in the room thing, like because, because so one of the things I've always said about, like trying to be creative in your programing is like, you get to say yes to things that no one else ever says yes to. 00:34:00:02 - 00:34:10:06 Josh Boldman And so like this. Like, in order to do this, we had to buy like 150 pounds of, of corn starch from like a food grade service company. Like it was just like they bring it in on a 00:34:10:06 - 00:34:16:17 Josh Boldman pallet. It oh, it was crazy. Like it is absolutely insane. But no one is going to be able to do that at home. 00:34:16:24 - 00:34:34:16 Josh Boldman I mean, they do it like, and so like one of the things is we would like walk them through, like, how did how to make it at home and at a very smaller scale. Yeah. I think it is one way to do that, but I don't know, like, I feel like in that moment that having an experience like that just like, creates a core memory, right? 00:34:34:16 - 00:34:34:26 Josh Boldman It's like 00:34:34:26 - 00:34:54:15 Josh Boldman the locks in there going to remember the teaching, if ever so slightly, because of the experience. It's just kind of like try and get your thoughts on yeah. What do you do to help someone who's either experiencing it later or experiencing at home? How do they how do they lock in that same that same idea? And any thoughts there? 00:34:54:15 - 00:34:57:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Yeah for sure. So, once again, like I said, 00:34:57:23 - 00:35:15:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry there are certain things that in-person that digital can't do to like replace and frankly, vice versa. But this is a prime example. So here's the here's the shame. Josh. Like, this is why you're the best youth ministry 00:35:15:20 - 00:35:21:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry programmer in America. Because this what what a title, right? 00:35:21:08 - 00:35:46:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The fact is this, like if all your students are coming to in the room is a lecture style sermon, they can get they can 100% get that online. Right. And and it'll be better. Exactly. Let's call it what it is right there online. Somebody do it better if it's just lecture style. Yeah. And so again here's our strategy. 00:35:46:04 - 00:36:04:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If we were doing that I would totally do that in the room. We don't live stream. And so instead of trying to replicate a live stream moment, now if you were in a position where you had to do that, I think, you know, what Josh's point was, is I would I would try to get a camera on the actual like trough thing so that 00:36:04:20 - 00:36:07:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry people can watch that and then maybe encourage people 00:36:07:02 - 00:36:16:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with like, text on screen to go get some element so that they too can take, you know, communion and then give them the opportunity if they want to build it. 00:36:16:08 - 00:36:34:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're not going to probably be able to do that, like right in the moment. Like, do they have enough corn starch? Do they have a bowl? Like, you know what I mean? Probably that. So what we would do in our context now is we would film a talk about Peter walking on water for YouTube, direct to camera, 15 minutes or less. 00:36:34:04 - 00:37:02:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Really, really highly edited. And so if I wanted to use like B-roll or anything like that from like The Chosen as I'm illustrating this Peter point, like that's going to be on screen, it's not just going to be me talking. We're going to use the medium of video that we have to our advantage and do certain things like so this isn't in the same vein, but one time I was talking about how like, God knows the big picture and on screen I said, does anyone know what this is? 00:37:02:04 - 00:37:19:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Comment down below if you know it. And there's like a super zoomed in like grainy, pixelated something or other. And then in the next frame it like zoomed out and you can see this like beautiful painted canvas. And the point I made in that was like God's painting a picture and you can't see the outcome. He's in control. 00:37:19:07 - 00:37:27:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You're. And that's just an example. And you could do that in the room with like, a slide. But that's just an example of something that you can do with a 00:37:27:15 - 00:37:29:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry video. And so I 00:37:29:03 - 00:37:42:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry wouldn't try to recreate that moment because it's probably un replicating. Right. But I would create something that at the end of the day, your bottom line was the first steps, always 00:37:42:09 - 00:37:43:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry followed by a second step. 00:37:43:20 - 00:38:08:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I think you can teach that and deliver that online for anyone who's not there. And that's again, one of the reasons we don't do like a quote live stream is because a we don't have the equipment, but if you miss out on it, you sort of feel like it's over instead. Like, what is YouTube great for? Like, I get on YouTube, I don't know about you, but I get on there when like, I have a clog in my sink and I search how to fix, clog and sink. 00:38:09:00 - 00:38:32:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like in the same way. Water heater based on YouTube and a skylight. See, I, I think I broke the law. I've admitted to doing this now twice. Yeah. Don't worry, that's the power of editing. But I'll probably leave it in. But, a student might get on and be like, ask a question. Like a tough question. Like, is such and such a sin? 00:38:32:29 - 00:38:52:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry How do I grow my faith? How do I start making disciples? How do I whatever? And so that's what I'm trying to do on YouTube, is I'm trying to title and tag my videos in such a way that, like, they're going to be found in search from a teenager or anyone for that matter, but particularly a teenager who's asking big questions about life and about faith. 00:38:52:24 - 00:38:58:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you're doing one thing in the room. But online, they're both hopefully accomplishing 00:38:58:10 - 00:39:17:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the same ultimate goal. And that's where I would say, like the the difference of hybrid hybrid is not just digital, right? It's both. And so a good in room experience is going to like be worth its weight in gold. We don't have to try to like replace it. 00:39:17:05 - 00:39:21:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What I will say a great hybrid experience for teaching. 00:39:21:03 - 00:39:29:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you haven't checked this out, one of my favorite resources, is like the YouVersion live events. And so in built 00:39:29:09 - 00:39:40:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in woven into the YouVersion Bible app, there's a section called live. And so you can make it be, quote live when your service is live. And you can put your outline basically in there. 00:39:40:28 - 00:39:58:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And what's great about it is you can also link Bible reading plan. So always link a Bible reading plan at the end of any message. So like in that one I would link something about taking next steps like a 4 or 5 day Bible reading plan for a student to jump into if they wanted. And we always have a next steps form. 00:39:58:14 - 00:40:00:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We have a digital next steps form that 00:40:00:04 - 00:40:14:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry just lives in perpetuity on our website. And so at the bottom second to bottom of my YouVersion live event, I put a link. So you ready to next step? Let us know. We want to take it with you. And then it's a link and it can go external. It can go external to anything. 00:40:14:04 - 00:40:36:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can also link like camp sign ups or retreat sign ups or denial sign ups like you can you can link to anything. And that's a great way for a student hybrid to like take something and they can save that event and they can get back to it later. They can like take private notes on it. So it's something that they're in the room, but they're taking notes on their device. 00:40:36:01 - 00:40:43:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now later, if they have a question or whatever they want to like continue on in their faith. Like, that's a fantastic we call it, 00:40:43:09 - 00:40:52:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry digital notes, like it's the YouVersion live events platform, but we like have branded it like digital notes. And as I said, it's QR code. So I just 00:40:52:04 - 00:41:01:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry swap the the same QR code and then our tables in our room we have a little like standing placard thing and it says follow along for the digital notes. 00:41:01:04 - 00:41:21:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Students can scan it and it'll pull open that week's YouVersion live event. So it changes every week based on that particular thing. So that would be a hybrid solution to like the content in the room. Your ending piece is fantastic, right? And so I don't think you want to try to like replicate that in someone's house necessarily. 00:41:21:10 - 00:41:36:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I think you could pre film that if kids don't make it or if a kid down the road comes to your youth minister that wasn't there that night or they weren't attending your church, you and they have a question about taking a next step. You can be like, hey, this is my favorite part about putting your stuff on YouTube. 00:41:36:03 - 00:41:48:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can like, hey, we actually have a fantastic teaching on it. I'll send you the link. It's right here. And you don't have to say, oh man, you should have been here last month. We did this really cool thing. Like they can still have access to it. So 00:41:48:27 - 00:41:57:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry some some that, I was thinking of with this particular type of thing is filming, like, a behind the scenes, like as you're making it, like. 00:41:57:05 - 00:42:12:25 Josh Boldman Yes, it could be. It could be really power, even as students have run across it, like just catching them right at the end and be like, hey, can you would you? Yeah. How do you remember this or what? What what was this experience like? And just having like, you know, featuring a couple of them I think could could go a long way for sure. 00:42:12:25 - 00:42:36:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's one of my strategy. Like in my, like social media calendar, like Wednesday night, which is our youth night, I film just I post like a recap video of what we did. And so for that night, that's that might be what I do is just focus on the trough moment. Right. Or if you don't have anything that's as like unique or powerful as that, you can just get a little snippets of the whole night so you can get kids playing nine square. 00:42:36:22 - 00:42:55:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Kids worship in the band, worship being the the pastor teaching. And then you take, you know, 7 to 12 clips. You put them in something like TikTok, it'll auto cut it for you and boom, you got a post that takes you less than a minute. You know, I love it. So dude. So good. Look at us. Look at that. 00:42:55:13 - 00:43:20:09 Josh Boldman We figured it out so good. This is really fun. Is that the end of your service? Yeah, well, I mean, we were dismissed as small groups. And there's something that we did there, that, you know, trying to engage outside of just the small group time was like we would send, discussion questions to parents, you know, like, or we and we had, like, a, like a reminder text sign up that was like, hey, here's what we're talking about tonight. 00:43:20:09 - 00:43:40:19 Josh Boldman Here are three questions for the ride home or for the. Yeah. You know, and so whether a kid was there and on the ride home or if, you know, they missed that night, there's still you know, their parents still got a, you know, a conversation starter of some kind, I think was pretty good. And that's the advantage I've found in pre filming as well. 00:43:40:19 - 00:44:06:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry There's so many advantages. Like at first it was like so history for us like we did just Like you a full live like YouTube show during Covid. Like it was a youth group for YouTube. But eventually as restrictions lifted, that grew tired and people didn't wanna just get on sit behind a computer, a live stream, especially during the summer of 2020, they're like, I'm just going to go out where I can't catch Covid as long as I'm outside. 00:44:06:11 - 00:44:24:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's, you know, that started to engagement with that and the shininess of it. You know, initially it was like this really interesting thing. But by episode 28 it's like, yeah, kind of lost some of its luster. But there is still something really cool. It's like there was a teaching component, but it was all the way at the end of the video. 00:44:24:07 - 00:44:48:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when I came here and readjusted my thought process a little bit, I was like, the teaching is so valuable. Like, I want kids to be able to hear about the truth of Jesus, and I want them to be able to have access to it online. How can we do that? And so if some or some of the other kind of components that we did during Covid, but make it maybe a little more adaptable to 2022 and then those 2023, 24. 00:44:48:18 - 00:45:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that's where we do our teaching longform on YouTube and everything else is shorts. I read something the other day, just like 90% of the internet's traffic now is shorts, TikToks or reels. And so that's what we film in our social challenges. We just film short content games or challenge style videos, and we let our students be the heroes in those stories. 00:45:10:18 - 00:45:33:23 Josh Boldman And they love it. Like when they see one of their things posted, like the text meme, like, that was really good. And I'm like, yeah, it was. Nailed it. You know, my favorite. So I, our son is 16 and, and he has this thing that is a joke that he has started thinking is very funny. That he'll, he'll, like, start talking about something he saw online. 00:45:33:23 - 00:45:52:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And my wife would be like, well, like. And he's like, oh, don't worry, you'll see it on Instagram in three months. That's hilarious. You. And he's right. And, you know, he's 100% right. Because, you know, it's funny, yesterday I got a Facebook reel sent to me, and I had seen that on TikTok and then on Instagram and now. 00:45:52:16 - 00:46:15:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Oh, so that's even like, talk about lag, as you say. I'm just now finding out that Facebook has reels. That's right tastic. No. Yeah I no I knew that but no. But yeah, it's crazy. Well so then yeah small group like and I would encourage a small group leaders have group text and all of that is like ways the end of the day. 00:46:15:26 - 00:46:38:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The reason I'm so passionate about hybrid is not like, oh, it's cool and cutting edge in technology. It's more like this is an opportunity to reach students where they are and beyond your service moments, your service times. And so you can text them on a Thursday after school and ask them how that test went. You can text them on a Monday morning, even in a group and say, hey, I'm I'm praying for a great week for you guys. 00:46:38:29 - 00:47:02:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can send encouraging versus all things we just didn't have the ability to do before the invention of technology. And so I my challenge is just always encouraging churches and youth pastors to just not get stuck in the rut of only in-person. There's so much more that the world has to offer. And, and that the world, frankly, is already leaning into we as a church, churches has to find a way to catch up to it. 00:47:02:28 - 00:47:27:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So so good. Yeah. Sweet. Let's all we got. Anything else? Any final words, Josh? Drink your milk. You know, I feel like we've we've we've we've lost that one. You know, like, that was when, when I was little, they were like, drink your milk. You get strong bones. I don't know if that's true or not, but I don't feel like I've heard anyone tell me that in a long time, so I just want to share that. 00:47:27:27 - 00:47:34:18 Josh Boldman Okay. Everyone else. All right. I will leave you with that wisdom. Until next time, everyone stay hybrid letter. 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00:00 The Great Debate
01:11 The Challenge: In Person vs. Digital
02:58 Clarifying "Hybrid"
04:42 5:00 Countdown
09:12 Opening Worship Song
16:35 Host Moment & Announcements
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. In this episode, I am going to be talking with my friend Josh Goldman. He works over at Download Youth Ministry. He does all the stuff with sidekick and he does, stuff with co-leader and Josh, honestly, I believe is one of, if not the greatest programing specialist for youth ministries in America.

00:00:23:19 - 00:00:43:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm really excited for you to hear it because some of his ideas are absolutely fantastic. But what we're gonna do is we're going to be debating between in-person and digital, and you're going to see me try to lean everything back towards hybrid. And what we're doing is he's bringing a youth ministry programing sheet and he's saying, this is what we're doing.

00:00:43:13 - 00:01:02:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do we make it digital? How do we, honor the people that might be watching online and more? I try to say, how can we make it hybrid? And so for those of you who are new here, hybrid is taking your in-person, taking your digital and finding a way to meet that intersection. And in most cases, I think that is at the intersection of students cell phones.

00:01:02:01 - 00:01:11:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you're going to see that this debate between digital versus in-person. So welcome to the show, the one and only Josh Boardman.

00:01:11:12 - 00:01:23:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well what's up everybody. I'm here this morning with my good friend Josh Bullman. And we have a little bit of a unique idea. So Josh, tell the people what we're doing okay.

00:01:23:01 - 00:01:30:29
Josh Boldman
So as anyone watching slash listening knows, Nick Claussen is all about the hybrid ministry, right?

00:01:30:29 - 00:01:53:19
Josh Boldman
Making sure that the people that are at home are still connecting with what's happening in the room. Yeah. I spent most of my ministry, like, developing, and leading services in the room. And then, you know, Covid happened and things got crazy, and we we did a full pendulum swing to where, like, we did everything online. Yeah.

00:01:53:20 - 00:02:02:13
Josh Boldman
And then we came back and suddenly it was like, wait, are we still doing online or are we like, what are we doing? You know? And so it was the constant challenge of

00:02:02:13 - 00:02:11:27
Josh Boldman
trying to not just, create something in the room and just stream it, right, like, make it more interactive. So yeah. So today

00:02:11:27 - 00:02:12:18
Josh Boldman
what

00:02:12:18 - 00:02:19:29
Josh Boldman
we're doing is I have got a service that I've created for in the room, and I'm going to walk us through it.

00:02:20:02 - 00:02:26:26
Josh Boldman
And Nick is going to in real time because he has not seen it. Now you guys gotta know, I offered. I was like,

00:02:26:26 - 00:02:48:05
Josh Boldman
dude, do you want this ahead? And we could just fake it? And he's like, no, no, too much integrity. Way too much. Yeah. And so he's going to try like as we go to, we're going to think through each, each section and try and figure out what is it that we can do to make this something that people who are not in the room, you know, but the students at home.

00:02:48:07 - 00:03:08:03
Josh Boldman
And I'm curious, Nick, if this is, you know, maybe something we look at is, is it if they're watching live or even if they're watching later, like, how does that impact, well, your ability to participate.

00:03:08:03 - 00:03:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So yeah, and to be clear, like the way that I define hybrid is like it's the it's the two pieces.
So your in-person plus your digital and it's like them coming

00:03:11:17 - 00:03:11:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
together.

00:03:11:27 - 00:03:19:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so there may be elements I think a little more what I might try to do is like take, take what is going on in the room and find a way

00:03:19:22 - 00:03:44:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to allow it to exist beyond that moment. Yeah. Or find a way to intersect a student, like in a spot like their phone that will that will last beyond that, the time that you dismiss them to go home so they can take it home, like youth ministry, typically pre-digital, could only exist in the few hours that our church doors were open.

00:03:44:04 - 00:04:13:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now we have the advantage of being able to access sometimes it's, you know, a curse versus a blessing, but we have the advantage of being able to access and have conversation with and disciple our students at a time that Wednesday night programing or Sunday morning or Sunday night programing isn't happening. And how can we take what we're doing in the room and offer it to students beyond that moment, or even in your place in what you were saying, maybe even as a replacement of it?

00:04:13:22 - 00:04:28:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So, like Josh said, I haven't seen any of this. I am a little nervous right now. Like earlier I was like, I'm fine, but now I'm a little nervous as I like get together. I got to be totally honest. I'm like, there are parts of it. Or I was like, oh, I can totally see how this is going to work.

00:04:28:05 - 00:04:42:24
Josh Boldman
And then there are other parts where I'm like, I don't know what he's going to do, how this is going to. Yeah. So bear with me. Stream of consciousness. And it may not be perfect and polished, but that's okay. That's what we're here for. So all right, let's do it. What is the first part of your service?

00:04:42:24 - 00:04:44:09
Josh Boldman
The five minute countdown.

00:04:44:13 - 00:04:45:20
Josh Boldman
Right. Okay, so we've got

00:04:45:20 - 00:05:19:08
Josh Boldman
students are in the room, they're playing nine square, they're playing gaga ball. They've got they're not paying attention to the countdown. Nobody cares what like someone spent a lot of time creating a countdown. Yeah, but ultimately no one cares about until it, like, reaches 10s. But there's there's a lot of interaction happening. And so, like, trying to think through is there is there something where we're trying to connect with students that are not in the room, or is there something we can do in the room to help students know, hey, it's not just you here.

00:05:19:08 - 00:05:43:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's yeah, there's more than that going on. Yeah. So one of the things about five minute countdowns that I actually hate, and I know that as talking to a guy who works for Download Youth Ministry, and that's where a lot of the money is made and a lot of five minute countdowns are sold. I actually prefer, which, by the way, talking to you right now, let this be an unofficial sidekick feature

00:05:43:09 - 00:05:44:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
request.

00:05:44:18 - 00:05:58:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. Because right now in sidekick, you can, you can loop your announcements, right? You can loop some, like, graphic slides. And I actually prefer that to be the five minute countdown with

00:05:58:07 - 00:06:11:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
just the five minute countdown overlaid in the corner, so that all of the announcements that you're announcing and trying to let your students know about are happening, is being seen on the screen.

00:06:11:03 - 00:06:22:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because if you think about it, if if the majority of people don't start paying attention to the screen until it's down to less than a minute, they missed all of the stuff that was looping ahead of time.

00:06:22:16 - 00:06:37:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the stuff that's looping ahead of time is the stuff that you want them to know about. And so whether it's hybrid, whether it's digital only or whether it's in person, like whatever you're announcing, I think you should leave that stuff on the screen as long as humanly possible.

00:06:37:20 - 00:06:56:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're able to put a little five minute countdown in the corner or even across the middle, but I try to design my slides in such a way that I think, like, all right, I'm going to do the left corner of this time and keep stuff out of the left corner. And so then we may have like our current series graphic, we may have an upcoming events.

00:06:56:02 - 00:07:13:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like at the time of recording, we got our costume party coming up and Christmas is on the horizon. So those types of things are there. But woven in my announcements, I might try to do, well, I what we do right now is like, I advertise our online baptism

00:07:13:19 - 00:07:22:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
course, which is a YouTube playlist. And there are so many times, like almost all of my slides at this point, have a QR code to you.

00:07:22:24 - 00:07:42:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do you remember when the QR code was dying? Like, yeah, no one used it. So lame. Like, I remember having this conversation in a church staff meeting where it was like we could put a QR code on it. And I remember some would be like, does anyone use those? And the answer was no. Yeah. And then but now

00:07:42:25 - 00:07:46:18
Josh Boldman
how else would we get the menu at restaurants like this?

00:07:46:20 - 00:08:14:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I think I had the same meeting because at during Covid the question was how do we communicate things without handing things to people and passing germs? Yeah. And I suggested a QR code and I quote from our communications team, we will never use a QR code. And I kid you not, not two weeks later, what was on the screen, because it was the only way to do it and it made a comeback.

00:08:14:00 - 00:08:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I actually I've always thought QR codes were brilliant. They didn't get adopted early on, but now they're back and they make so much sense. So yeah, we have a subscription to like a QR code builder. I get like 160 different like unique QR codes. And so I abuse that. And so oh yeah, our baptism course, our text list like all of these things.

00:08:35:11 - 00:09:05:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if a student during the five minute countdown, isn't playing nine square and they're kind of sitting already in the service or don't have anyone to talk to or something on the screen, does happen to sort of like catch their attention. They can pull their phone out. They can scan the QR code and they can get to it later, whether that be signing up for our text group, which will allow them access, or us access to them to send them encouraging messages or even just announcement type things, or even like discipleship related things like, hey, I'm ready to take a next step about baptism.

00:09:05:08 - 00:09:12:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me explore more about that through the baptism playlist. So all right, so there you go. That's what I would do. All right.

00:09:12:18 - 00:09:17:19
Josh Boldman
So at zero, usually what we'll do is we'll, we'll jump right into

00:09:17:19 - 00:09:17:29
Josh Boldman
the first

00:09:17:29 - 00:09:31:12
Josh Boldman
song. Right. And so our, our group, we had a live band. So that was, I mean, I, you know, it's one of those things where every time you talk about having a student band, this could go one of two very different ways.

00:09:31:15 - 00:09:51:29
Josh Boldman
And I will say, like, I've been really blessed to be at churches where, we had a really good, like, solid student led band that, I mean, had a, a track record of what I would say is in the neighborhood of 82%, like, okay, this is going to be a four out of five that it's going to go, well, so like so it would, it would hit pretty well.

00:09:51:29 - 00:10:08:10
Josh Boldman
And that was kind of in the room that was like the, the oh, oh we're starting like you know, so everybody's like getting getting into their seats getting music hits. Yeah. Yeah. And so I mean obviously in the room you got lyrics on the screen, you got we got, you know, some cameras going and stuff like that.

00:10:08:11 - 00:10:31:02
Josh Boldman
So yeah, like for, for worship on the live stream for people after like, are you like, is there anything different that you feel like you can do to set up to help again, the room feel like they're a part of what's happening at home and vice versa. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of different ideas. Let me first say, Josh, you might find this surprising.

00:10:31:13 - 00:10:55:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and the church I'm at now, I've been here two years. This is the first church in. You know, I guess by the time I moved here is, like, 12 years. So my first 12 years of ministry, I did not have a regular live worship band. Oh, yeah. Everywhere I've been prior, like, for one reason or another, the band didn't really, like, Take Root.

00:10:55:17 - 00:11:15:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I didn't try to kill it, but I also didn't have a massive like, that's not my bent. I'm not a worship guy. I can't play any instruments. And so I'm not trying to get that thing up and off the ground. And so for sure, I've had we've had worship at camps and retreats and at like one off worship nights and stuff like that, but not on like a regular, like rhythm.

00:11:15:09 - 00:11:38:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so let me just say to those of you out there in the majority of churches, right, like that, probably don't have a live stream, let's just be honest. And they may you might not even have quality like music means to pull off worship like I feel is. I mean, you know, you can be the judge of this, but I feel as though I did really good youth ministry for 12 years without a band.

00:11:38:19 - 00:12:02:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I and I don't even know, like in a, you know, in a typical youth service, it's what it's a little more like geared towards outsiders. Oftentimes I don't know that getting up there and singing about the blood of Jesus is often the most welcoming thing for an outsider. And so sometimes you may be shooting yourself in the foot, all in an effort to try and copy what you think youth ministries should be doing, which is worship.

00:12:02:24 - 00:12:22:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can program around worship. It's going to require a lot more creativity, which is essentially the basis of this episode. Like finding ways to be a little bit more creative with your programing and whatnot. So I'll only say that as an encouragement. Don't feel like you have to jam a worship band into like a space if it's not working.

00:12:22:12 - 00:12:47:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not fitting the context isn't right, whatever the case may be. Yeah, I've always felt like we we were at places where we tried doing the, you know, the lyric videos, you know, that kind of thing. And it would, it would work in like seasons. But there were times we were just like, okay, this feels like we're showing them a video that they are begrudgingly watching for.

00:12:47:07 - 00:13:04:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah, 5.5 minutes. And then they sit down and it's like, okay, well, if it doesn't work, doesn't work. Like don't, don't force that. Yeah, that I think that probably hurts more than it helps if it feels like you're forcing it. Yeah. So take back to answer your specific question about what to do

00:13:04:07 - 00:13:11:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
about worship. Like, I will say when I'm thinking about in-person versus online, online,

00:13:11:25 - 00:13:20:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
in my opinion, is a fantastic content delivery system like podcasts, sermons can be podcasts, sermons can be YouTube videos.

00:13:20:27 - 00:13:32:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like that is what the internet is made for, right? What in person is made for that the internet can't always overcome is certain things like community. And one of those things I think it has

00:13:32:02 - 00:13:37:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
a hard time overcoming is live, in-person worship, shoulder to shoulder like

00:13:37:23 - 00:13:47:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
they're watching during Covid, watching worship online, versus watching worship in the room was a completely different experience.

00:13:47:04 - 00:14:06:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I sat in my recliner. I did not stand. I did not sing. I maybe like sung under my breath. But you know, I'm not getting up in my living room and like, worshiping like I would at church. And so that is, you know, one of the, in my opinion, advantages of in-person, I will say a couple ideas.

00:14:06:16 - 00:14:29:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One, during Covid, our church, I thought was fantastically innovative and our worship was not just like a band on a stage. It was like they were shot almost like a music video. And especially during Covid, all the individual musicians, like, they recorded all their parts and then they sent them back and then the editors, like, spliced it all together.

00:14:29:03 - 00:14:46:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Wow. It was so good. And of course, that wasn't sustainable. But when they pulled the plug on that, I was that that wasn't a youth ministry thing. But when they pulled the plug on that, I thought that was a big, big mistake because it was very good. And they went back to like an easier route. And I felt like it.

00:14:46:01 - 00:15:09:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It took away some of what made our online presence pretty, pretty good. Oh, yeah. But for the kids in the room for the hybrid, like, hey, how do we, like, let this, this attitude of worship live beyond, I mean, very simply, like, you can create a greatest hits like Spotify playlist of all the best worship songs that you and your students that they love.

00:15:09:15 - 00:15:28:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I especially like to do this for camps or retreats. I'll create the playlist even ahead of time, and I'll like float it out and I'll sneak it out via like our text lists, our social media so that people can grab Ahold of it. And so even if in the room, if you wanted to have one of those little Spotify, it's not a QR code, but it's similar to it.

00:15:28:01 - 00:15:38:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you scan Spotify's version of it and you can join the playlist, and, you know, even be cool. I'm come with this idea on the fly. You could create like a collaborative

00:15:38:18 - 00:15:49:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
like playlist, like our church's favorite worship songs, and it's a public playlist. And anyone with a Spotify account can go in and they can add their favorite worship songs.

00:15:49:13 - 00:16:02:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you just got to keep that kind of front and center, like, hey, throughout the week. Like, hey, don't forget we got this, you know, collaborative worship playlist. If you know you want to worship God throughout this week, take a listen. Nice I like that. Yeah.

00:16:02:14 - 00:16:16:19
Josh Boldman
Something something that we did, during Covid was we would ask at the end of the service to, say like, hey, if there are songs that really speak to you like we want to do, you know, we want to lead you in those songs.

00:16:16:19 - 00:16:29:26
Josh Boldman
So it was kind of like a, hey, this week, let us know what songs you'd like to do next week, like that kind of a thing. I mean, I, I don't know that that was like super, super well-received, but it was, it was something. Right? It was at least something that that allowed a little bit back and forth.

00:16:29:29 - 00:16:39:13
Josh Boldman
Yeah. So we, we, we usually do one song, ready to tap, and then we would go into our hosting time. So where we, we would have two

00:16:39:13 - 00:16:53:18
Josh Boldman
volunteers, usually an adult and a student. If not it would be two adults. And you know, the I will be the first to say it was always hit or miss like every time.

00:16:53:25 - 00:17:10:02
Josh Boldman
And you know, because you're always like, oh that person's personality, you know. Yeah. It's like because you get because like people who are super nervous on stage. I totally get it. But it would be like you'd sit down with them, be like, they would want to know what is the what is the content of the announcement? Right?

00:17:10:03 - 00:17:21:17
Josh Boldman
It's like, okay, well, I can tell you that, like, for sure, we'll make sure you got that. And for them it was like as long as I know the information, I'm good. And it's, you know, there is there is more to this game than that, friend. But yeah,

00:17:21:17 - 00:17:28:03
Josh Boldman
one of the ways that we found to kind of help that process was we started doing the wheel of announcements.

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Josh Boldman
You I love that sidekick. And and and the the best part, right is you can you can game the system. Right? You can tell it which was so we would have like, say if there were four announcements. That's too many. You know, I'd say three max. Yeah. But like so whatever number of announcements there were, we would always have one more.

00:17:47:04 - 00:18:09:18
Josh Boldman
And that wheel wedge was always like, everyone gets $100, you know, whatever. And so like, you have to make sure that the person in your booth, oh, man, you have to trust that person or, that could cost you dearly. Yeah. Like, oh, man. But it was great because it really was random. Yeah, but it would.

00:18:09:18 - 00:18:29:15
Josh Boldman
But especially when it would get down to the last two wedges and it was like half the wheel is everyone gets $100. And the other was like, you know, church picnic or whatever, and you spin it and it just like slowly goes. It's like, oh, you know, and it was great. Like, but it kept, you know, because the students in the room, they don't care about half the announcements you're giving.

00:18:29:15 - 00:18:43:21
Josh Boldman
But it was kind of fun every time it would pass the $100 thing, you know, that they'd want to see it. And so we would just change it to a new thing every week. And sometimes it would be they'd win a prize or there would be like, you know, something embarrassing that the person on stage would have to do.

00:18:43:24 - 00:19:05:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But that's a different way to gamify it so that it's more interesting than I've episode that talked about, like, stop posting announcements to social media like, no one cares and no one is getting on social media to know what's going on in your youth ministry. They'll they you do want them to know like it's just you're using it's the wrong like medium for it.

00:19:05:17 - 00:19:30:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so a lot of times in the same way we do announcement times of this service in our church, like we do need to get these things across. Yeah. But I think that like, you know, this isn't a direct answer to the question, but like, how how do you hybridize your announcements or like, how do you get your announcements across in like a, a different way than just like the host moment or the announcement moment in your planning center service rundown?

00:19:30:00 - 00:19:49:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you, you use the mediums all all throughout the rest of the like, all throughout the rest of your like repertoire that you have to your advantage so you can post those. I do say you can post announcements to social media. You just have to be creative with it. Like one of my favorites is. I'll follow the link down below.

00:19:49:28 - 00:20:07:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like those transition style videos. Have you seen the one where the dudes getting speared in the back by like a bull, and then people are diving into like, their rows of chairs? Like, yep. Do those like, get your you can still tell people on social media about what's going on your church. Just make it actually creative.

00:20:07:19 - 00:20:25:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic like no one. All right, you ready? You ready for some? I just thought like this. Like yes. Head right is right. So, so you could during your announcement time, you could record that video with your students, like. Yes. So that would be in the moment. You're like, hey, here's what we're gonna do.

00:20:25:24 - 00:20:43:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got this thing coming up. We want to let everybody know about it. Here's, you know what it's going to be like, let's let's do this real quick. And yeah, just and you know what else? Like what else could you do? You could, random name generator. Your your contestant, you could, then get them up there and then what does that do.

00:20:43:01 - 00:20:44:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a nod to your socials.

00:20:44:17 - 00:21:01:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so while you're announcing, you throw a graphic on screen that says we're social, it's guy QR codes, a link tree of all of your social handles. And the people in the room like, hey, go follow this because we're going to post this tomorrow. And that's been like, I'm going to, that's one of the things we've done in our youth ministry.

00:21:01:29 - 00:21:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've created a social team and a social challenge component of every night of our youth ministry. And so students know they can go into our studio. We have a studio like it's bougie. All right, I get it. You can see the tour down below, but like, they know they can go in there and they can get on camera with their friends, and then eventually they're going to be the star on our social media.

00:21:25:02 - 00:21:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it helps create like a little more appetite for it than just the youth pastors being like the the talent on social media. No one wants that, right? Unless we're looking stupid. Are you saying we're not as cool as we think we are? Is that okay? It depends how you think of yourself as true. You know, if you have a, if you're like very self-aware, then you probably know you're not very cool.

00:21:50:03 - 00:21:58:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're in your 30s or 40, to be honest. Okay. So then we transition into a game.

00:21:58:02 - 00:21:59:13
Josh Boldman
And this was

00:21:59:13 - 00:22:17:10
Josh Boldman
always like, so we had two different things that we we've tried off and on. One is the winner of the game gets to spin a wheel for a prize and it's just numbers on a wheel. And then we had like shoeboxes and it was like, you know, you win box number seven and then you get the box, open it up.

00:22:17:10 - 00:22:34:02
Josh Boldman
And it's either a great prize or terrible prize, something like that. I love that, and I'm probably stealing that. Now that you just said that, is it. Honestly it was pretty cool. Like and that's like a YouTube video right there. That's like Ryan's world, you know. Yeah. And it wouldn't let you do is it let you not always have to keep buying awesome prizes?

Josh Boldman
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. Because oh man it was. And what you so like at the very beginning we would tell people like you know, so like we, we change them out every quarter or something like that and it would be like, hey, just so you know, in these 12 boxes, there are, a $10 Apple gift card. There's, you know, you know, just you tell them kind of, hey, here are a couple of the big things are in here.

00:22:55:16 - 00:23:13:12
Josh Boldman
Yeah. And then just as you get it, you know, one week, person rolls, number five. Great. They get box five. So then you just take that one off the list, and so you don't even have to, like, buy a new prize every week. You just have to have it all loaded upfront and you just put like, old crap that's laying around your church into those boxes, too.

00:23:13:13 - 00:23:34:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So good, so good. Right? It could be any. I mean, just honestly, anything, it's a mug, anything good. Right? It says you're voted most likely to need coffee. Like. Oh, yeah, that one that is, the other thing that we started doing was we do we did the impossible shot. Yeah. So yeah, the deal is like the traditional

00:23:34:15 - 00:23:41:04
Josh Boldman
impossible shot has always been like, if you are here for the first time or you were the person who invited that person for

00:23:41:04 - 00:23:44:12
Josh Boldman
the first time, you get to take a shot at this impossibly small target.

00:23:44:19 - 00:24:07:03
Josh Boldman
And if it goes through, you win a prize. But we, we started doing is the winner of the game, got to take the shot. And so it even made it, like, more, you know, your chance of winning the game was small. Yeah. And then that makes you even smaller. And we would add every week, we would add to the bucket of what do you win if you get the impossible shot.

00:24:07:03 - 00:24:23:13
Josh Boldman
And so like you started out with it's a bunch of candy. Okay. Then it's like one of every candy and then it's like, all right, gift card, you know, and so you just kind of slowly build it, until somebody wins it. It was one of the things we did. But I'm curious, like, so the possible shot rate is, agrees it.

00:24:23:13 - 00:24:42:19
Josh Boldman
So we would like. That's what I set up in this one was winner of the game. And the game would be like, where's the ball? We're doing doing 100. Probably by the time this is out, we will have already done it. So. Yeah. So, signed up for next year. But, one of the things that I made was a, a game called Where's the ball?

00:24:42:19 - 00:24:59:09
Josh Boldman
Obscure sports edition. Yeah. And so it's like link down below. Go give Josh goodness. Yeah. No, it'll be actually, you know, it'll be free in sidekick. So if you, if you have. Yeah. It'll be one of those like click on the little free button at the top and the little red dot pops up and you're like, oh my goodness me.

00:24:59:12 - 00:25:17:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it's like I need to look at that more frequently than I do. Yeah you do, I don't. Yeah, it's there's some good stuff in there. So the sports I've got are curling, I've got ax throwing, I've got, Oh, have you ever heard of cycle ball? No. Basically like soccer. But you play on bicycles.

00:25:17:27 - 00:25:39:14
Josh Boldman
Okay. Who's the front wheel of the bike to kick the ball? It's sane. Sounds insane. And I feel as though I would die. Horribly dangerous. The other one is unicycle hockey, which is exactly what it sounds like. And it is magical. But but that is, you know, I mean, so one of the things like that, what we when I first started making the where's the ball games, right.

00:25:39:14 - 00:25:44:24
Josh Boldman
That was very much you had to be in the room to make it work. But then with sidekick, we've done where it's voting

00:25:44:24 - 00:25:52:00
Josh Boldman
now. And so we worked really hard, especially during Covid and after, to make it wear our, when we were live

00:25:52:00 - 00:25:59:00
Josh Boldman
streaming that it was as low lag as possible. So people at home really could also vote in.

00:25:59:06 - 00:26:16:02
Josh Boldman
And we got it, you know, down to like, I think you can without too much trouble. You can get the lag down to like three four seconds. Not too bad. Yeah. And so we would do that where you could see on the screen, you know, people voting, that kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah, so we did that, but then so impossible

00:26:16:02 - 00:26:16:13
Josh Boldman
shot.

00:26:16:15 - 00:26:16:26
Josh Boldman
That

00:26:16:26 - 00:26:18:01
Josh Boldman
is a in the room

00:26:18:01 - 00:26:40:16
Josh Boldman
phenomenon. Yep. Is there anything we could you can do to make that, something that someone at home feels like they're able to connect with? Or is it really just a show? The highlight. And and they get to celebrate if it happened? Yeah. I mean, like, if it's a true live stream, which again, like I said earlier, not a lot of youth ministries have like full live streaming capabilities.

00:26:40:18 - 00:27:01:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So even what we do, what I recommend to a lot of people is like most people are not interested in tuning in to your full youth service, like, so we pre-record all of our messages for YouTube into like a 12 minute, like teaching type of deal. So like that's what I would recommend. Like that's what people are getting on YouTube in the internet for.

00:27:02:01 - 00:27:12:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is there a way to reclaim a live stream impossible shot type moment like there might be like a sort of like voting type thing. Like, do you think that they

00:27:12:07 - 00:27:21:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
can get it or not? You're going to need a moderator in your chat to like initiate that poll. So like let's say you won and it's like, congratulations to Josh.

00:27:21:10 - 00:27:40:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Will Josh hit the impossible shot yes or no? And they can vote there in the poll like in the chat or something like that. I think like YouTube or maybe Facebook has some of that like functionality built in. But what I might do like a as an alternative to the impossible shot or depending on your game.

00:27:40:27 - 00:27:50:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. Like, one of my favorite styles of games is creating like, you can do like those, like sculpture, building types of games or like, let

00:27:50:14 - 00:28:14:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
students in teams create something together. And then you can, like, take pictures of all of them and they can vote on them either. Oh, I like that on sidekick live in the room or what we've done in the past is we've said, hey, these are going to be on our Instagram Stories, go vote on them, and then we'll announce the winner on Sunday, which is like our next meeting time or what I like that I like.

00:28:14:27 - 00:28:29:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the winning group will get a pizza party next week. Yeah. And so, you know, like, those are different. Those are just different ideas, obviously. So to answer your question, I would try to just create like, a poll type of thing. I think that's. Yeah. That's the best idea. I got the top of my head right now.

00:28:29:29 - 00:28:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's, but some other, like, ideas

00:28:32:06 - 00:28:56:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
and let me jump in and say, in the land of prizes, another great like, free to you prize is, so we are our set up is, round tables. And so you oftentimes your table is your team in whatever sort of thing you're competing in game trivia, whatever. And so a lot of times we'll, let the winning team go sit in what we call the best seats in the house.

00:28:57:00 - 00:29:14:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we'll put some, like, couches in, like, nicer seats than, like, the tables there. And then we'll just stuff that area full of, like, snacks and drinks, and they get to sit there during like the teaching time. And oftentimes we have all the snacks and drinks on hand, and it's just couches that we have laying around, but they're nicer than tables.

00:29:14:07 - 00:29:32:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can give students that opportunity. It's similar to like your your box of prizes type of thing. So it in the box are prizes. One of the things we learned was, I kept forgetting to refill the boxes and so, what we started putting in the boxes as as a prize was pizza party for your small group next week?

00:29:32:25 - 00:29:51:01
Josh Boldman
Yeah, yeah. Like, you know. So it's always like a hey, you want it right now, but you're going to get it next year. So it would get kids to come back next week. But also if like say that small group won and they had five kids that night, next week they're going to have 15. Like it's just it's crazy because they know like oh yeah we won the prizes.

00:29:51:01 - 00:30:09:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. So and then you didn't order enough pizza ever. It's just so, you know you know it's something you'll see in the Facebook group a lot is the do I on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. How many pizzas should I order for a thing? I always order too much because then it's lunch for me for the rest of the week.

00:30:10:06 - 00:30:29:04
Josh Boldman
It's like, oh, they're good. That's how it. Yeah. The secret. I think that might be embezzlement. I'm not sure now that. Yeah, whatever. It's okay. We can cut that part out. Yeah. Whatever it, So there we go from there. We might, at that point do another song. But then we're going to go to a bumper video and you answer the lesson.

00:30:29:04 - 00:30:30:28
Josh Boldman
Now, the lesson that,

00:30:30:28 - 00:30:33:02
Josh Boldman
I'm doing this week is going to be,

00:30:33:02 - 00:30:39:01
Josh Boldman
on, Peter walking on water. Okay. And in the the idea is the big idea for it is

00:30:39:01 - 00:30:52:28
Josh Boldman
that your first step is meant to be followed by a second step. So it's like, the whole idea is like momentum, things like that. So the way that we would do this and we did this, and I can, I can send you pictures of how we did it.

00:30:53:01 - 00:31:16:29
Josh Boldman
We built this basically like this trough, and we covered it in plastic sheets. And then we put a tarp over that, and then we filled it with cornstarch and water, as you put it, at the right consistency. It's a it's a, it's a substance called oobleck or a non-Newtonian fluid. Okay. Which means if you just touch it it's liquid.

00:31:16:29 - 00:31:25:23
Josh Boldman
But if you hit it, it's solid, like it's crazy cool seeing it, right? Yeah. And so what that means is if you again, if you get the right

00:31:25:23 - 00:31:38:10
Josh Boldman
consistency, if you run on it, you can run completely on top of it. You will not see no way. But any point that you stop, you will sink right in like it's over.

00:31:38:12 - 00:31:58:28
Josh Boldman
And so what we would do is, is so yeah, that's the idea. Right? So Peter, Jesus calls him out on the water. He starts walking. It's working. But then as soon as he stops, he looks down. He starts to sink. And so Jesus gives him, you know, a bit of a, a talking to and, and so then, you know, then they he reaches out, pulls Peter back up, they climb back in the boat.

00:31:59:02 - 00:32:21:17
Josh Boldman
And so, what we're trying to tell the kids is like, hey, yeah, we want everybody to take a first step. You know? We all know what else we want. You. We want you to like. First step gives you momentum. Just keep taking steps like keep going. Yeah. And so, so the way we would end this service is in this is probably in the room going to be chaos.

00:32:21:19 - 00:32:40:10
Josh Boldman
And I'm I'm very comfortable with that especially like because it's so it's going to end with communion. Right. And so that which is not you know I've been in different groups where, where we've done communion every week. I've done groups where we do it like literally hardly ever. And, you know, and so this was one day where we did it every week.

00:32:40:13 - 00:33:05:07
Josh Boldman
And but what I would do is I would set that that, that trough up. So that students, in order to go and get the communion elements, get to run across the thing, to go get the cookie. So it's like, hey, that you're, you're chasing after Jesus, you're, you're taking this first step and you're not stopping. So like I said, you know, normally like communion is a fairly like somber time.

00:33:05:07 - 00:33:24:23
Josh Boldman
This would not be that because it would be a bit chaotic. But and they'd be taking their shoes off and they, you know, running across, but then, then they get the elements and they would take them right there, and then they then they go back to their seat. And so we would one we'd have to figure out stuff for the students to do when they're back in their seat.

00:33:24:25 - 00:33:59:26
Josh Boldman
Yeah. Because that, you know, it's going to take a minute. Yeah. They watching all that. But I mean, it wouldn't be like, you know, super, super engaging. But but the moment of running across, they absolutely loved it. Like, I mean, it was just the coolest thing ever. Yeah. So like but and then we would dismiss the small groups, but it's that that type of experience is, is really like a in the room thing, like because, because so one of the things I've always said about, like trying to be creative in your programing is like, you get to say yes to things that no one else ever says yes to.

00:34:00:02 - 00:34:10:06
Josh Boldman
And so like this. Like, in order to do this, we had to buy like 150 pounds of, of corn starch from like a food grade service company. Like it was just like they bring it in on a

00:34:10:06 - 00:34:16:17
Josh Boldman
pallet. It oh, it was crazy. Like it is absolutely insane. But no one is going to be able to do that at home.

00:34:16:24 - 00:34:34:16
Josh Boldman
I mean, they do it like, and so like one of the things is we would like walk them through, like, how did how to make it at home and at a very smaller scale. Yeah. I think it is one way to do that, but I don't know, like, I feel like in that moment that having an experience like that just like, creates a core memory, right?

00:34:34:16 - 00:34:34:26
Josh Boldman
It's like

00:34:34:26 - 00:34:54:15
Josh Boldman
the locks in there going to remember the teaching, if ever so slightly, because of the experience. It's just kind of like try and get your thoughts on yeah. What do you do to help someone who's either experiencing it later or experiencing at home? How do they how do they lock in that same that same idea? And any thoughts there?

00:34:54:15 - 00:34:57:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah for sure. So, once again, like I said,

00:34:57:23 - 00:35:15:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
there are certain things that in-person that digital can't do to like replace and frankly, vice versa. But this is a prime example. So here's the here's the shame. Josh. Like, this is why you're the best youth ministry

00:35:15:20 - 00:35:21:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
programmer in America. Because this what what a title, right?

00:35:21:08 - 00:35:46:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The fact is this, like if all your students are coming to in the room is a lecture style sermon, they can get they can 100% get that online. Right. And and it'll be better. Exactly. Let's call it what it is right there online. Somebody do it better if it's just lecture style. Yeah. And so again here's our strategy.

00:35:46:04 - 00:36:04:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If we were doing that I would totally do that in the room. We don't live stream. And so instead of trying to replicate a live stream moment, now if you were in a position where you had to do that, I think, you know, what Josh's point was, is I would I would try to get a camera on the actual like trough thing so that

00:36:04:20 - 00:36:07:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
people can watch that and then maybe encourage people

00:36:07:02 - 00:36:16:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
with like, text on screen to go get some element so that they too can take, you know, communion and then give them the opportunity if they want to build it.

00:36:16:08 - 00:36:34:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're not going to probably be able to do that, like right in the moment. Like, do they have enough corn starch? Do they have a bowl? Like, you know what I mean? Probably that. So what we would do in our context now is we would film a talk about Peter walking on water for YouTube, direct to camera, 15 minutes or less.

00:36:34:04 - 00:37:02:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Really, really highly edited. And so if I wanted to use like B-roll or anything like that from like The Chosen as I'm illustrating this Peter point, like that's going to be on screen, it's not just going to be me talking. We're going to use the medium of video that we have to our advantage and do certain things like so this isn't in the same vein, but one time I was talking about how like, God knows the big picture and on screen I said, does anyone know what this is?

00:37:02:04 - 00:37:19:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Comment down below if you know it. And there's like a super zoomed in like grainy, pixelated something or other. And then in the next frame it like zoomed out and you can see this like beautiful painted canvas. And the point I made in that was like God's painting a picture and you can't see the outcome. He's in control.

00:37:19:07 - 00:37:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're. And that's just an example. And you could do that in the room with like, a slide. But that's just an example of something that you can do with a

00:37:27:15 - 00:37:29:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video. And so I

00:37:29:03 - 00:37:42:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
wouldn't try to recreate that moment because it's probably un replicating. Right. But I would create something that at the end of the day, your bottom line was the first steps, always

00:37:42:09 - 00:37:43:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
followed by a second step.

00:37:43:20 - 00:38:08:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I think you can teach that and deliver that online for anyone who's not there. And that's again, one of the reasons we don't do like a quote live stream is because a we don't have the equipment, but if you miss out on it, you sort of feel like it's over instead. Like, what is YouTube great for? Like, I get on YouTube, I don't know about you, but I get on there when like, I have a clog in my sink and I search how to fix, clog and sink.

00:38:09:00 - 00:38:32:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like in the same way. Water heater based on YouTube and a skylight. See, I, I think I broke the law. I've admitted to doing this now twice. Yeah. Don't worry, that's the power of editing. But I'll probably leave it in. But, a student might get on and be like, ask a question. Like a tough question. Like, is such and such a sin?

00:38:32:29 - 00:38:52:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do I grow my faith? How do I start making disciples? How do I whatever? And so that's what I'm trying to do on YouTube, is I'm trying to title and tag my videos in such a way that, like, they're going to be found in search from a teenager or anyone for that matter, but particularly a teenager who's asking big questions about life and about faith.

00:38:52:24 - 00:38:58:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you're doing one thing in the room. But online, they're both hopefully accomplishing

00:38:58:10 - 00:39:17:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
the same ultimate goal. And that's where I would say, like the the difference of hybrid hybrid is not just digital, right? It's both. And so a good in room experience is going to like be worth its weight in gold. We don't have to try to like replace it.

00:39:17:05 - 00:39:21:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What I will say a great hybrid experience for teaching.

00:39:21:03 - 00:39:29:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you haven't checked this out, one of my favorite resources, is like the YouVersion live events. And so in built

00:39:29:09 - 00:39:40:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
in woven into the YouVersion Bible app, there's a section called live. And so you can make it be, quote live when your service is live. And you can put your outline basically in there.

00:39:40:28 - 00:39:58:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what's great about it is you can also link Bible reading plan. So always link a Bible reading plan at the end of any message. So like in that one I would link something about taking next steps like a 4 or 5 day Bible reading plan for a student to jump into if they wanted. And we always have a next steps form.

00:39:58:14 - 00:40:00:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We have a digital next steps form that

00:40:00:04 - 00:40:14:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
just lives in perpetuity on our website. And so at the bottom second to bottom of my YouVersion live event, I put a link. So you ready to next step? Let us know. We want to take it with you. And then it's a link and it can go external. It can go external to anything.

00:40:14:04 - 00:40:36:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can also link like camp sign ups or retreat sign ups or denial sign ups like you can you can link to anything. And that's a great way for a student hybrid to like take something and they can save that event and they can get back to it later. They can like take private notes on it. So it's something that they're in the room, but they're taking notes on their device.

00:40:36:01 - 00:40:43:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now later, if they have a question or whatever they want to like continue on in their faith. Like, that's a fantastic we call it,

00:40:43:09 - 00:40:52:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
digital notes, like it's the YouVersion live events platform, but we like have branded it like digital notes. And as I said, it's QR code. So I just

00:40:52:04 - 00:41:01:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
swap the the same QR code and then our tables in our room we have a little like standing placard thing and it says follow along for the digital notes.

00:41:01:04 - 00:41:21:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Students can scan it and it'll pull open that week's YouVersion live event. So it changes every week based on that particular thing. So that would be a hybrid solution to like the content in the room. Your ending piece is fantastic, right? And so I don't think you want to try to like replicate that in someone's house necessarily.

00:41:21:10 - 00:41:36:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I think you could pre film that if kids don't make it or if a kid down the road comes to your youth minister that wasn't there that night or they weren't attending your church, you and they have a question about taking a next step. You can be like, hey, this is my favorite part about putting your stuff on YouTube.

00:41:36:03 - 00:41:48:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can like, hey, we actually have a fantastic teaching on it. I'll send you the link. It's right here. And you don't have to say, oh man, you should have been here last month. We did this really cool thing. Like they can still have access to it. So

00:41:48:27 - 00:41:57:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
some some that, I was thinking of with this particular type of thing is filming, like, a behind the scenes, like as you're making it, like.

00:41:57:05 - 00:42:12:25
Josh Boldman
Yes, it could be. It could be really power, even as students have run across it, like just catching them right at the end and be like, hey, can you would you? Yeah. How do you remember this or what? What what was this experience like? And just having like, you know, featuring a couple of them I think could could go a long way for sure.

00:42:12:25 - 00:42:36:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's one of my strategy. Like in my, like social media calendar, like Wednesday night, which is our youth night, I film just I post like a recap video of what we did. And so for that night, that's that might be what I do is just focus on the trough moment. Right. Or if you don't have anything that's as like unique or powerful as that, you can just get a little snippets of the whole night so you can get kids playing nine square.

00:42:36:22 - 00:42:55:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Kids worship in the band, worship being the the pastor teaching. And then you take, you know, 7 to 12 clips. You put them in something like TikTok, it'll auto cut it for you and boom, you got a post that takes you less than a minute. You know, I love it. So dude. So good. Look at us. Look at that.

00:42:55:13 - 00:43:20:09
Josh Boldman
We figured it out so good. This is really fun. Is that the end of your service? Yeah, well, I mean, we were dismissed as small groups. And there's something that we did there, that, you know, trying to engage outside of just the small group time was like we would send, discussion questions to parents, you know, like, or we and we had, like, a, like a reminder text sign up that was like, hey, here's what we're talking about tonight.

00:43:20:09 - 00:43:40:19
Josh Boldman
Here are three questions for the ride home or for the. Yeah. You know, and so whether a kid was there and on the ride home or if, you know, they missed that night, there's still you know, their parents still got a, you know, a conversation starter of some kind, I think was pretty good. And that's the advantage I've found in pre filming as well.

00:43:40:19 - 00:44:06:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's so many advantages. Like at first it was like so history for us like we did just Like you a full live like YouTube show during Covid. Like it was a youth group for YouTube. But eventually as restrictions lifted, that grew tired and people didn't wanna just get on sit behind a computer, a live stream, especially during the summer of 2020, they're like, I'm just going to go out where I can't catch Covid as long as I'm outside.

00:44:06:11 - 00:44:24:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's, you know, that started to engagement with that and the shininess of it. You know, initially it was like this really interesting thing. But by episode 28 it's like, yeah, kind of lost some of its luster. But there is still something really cool. It's like there was a teaching component, but it was all the way at the end of the video.

00:44:24:07 - 00:44:48:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when I came here and readjusted my thought process a little bit, I was like, the teaching is so valuable. Like, I want kids to be able to hear about the truth of Jesus, and I want them to be able to have access to it online. How can we do that? And so if some or some of the other kind of components that we did during Covid, but make it maybe a little more adaptable to 2022 and then those 2023, 24.

00:44:48:18 - 00:45:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's where we do our teaching longform on YouTube and everything else is shorts. I read something the other day, just like 90% of the internet's traffic now is shorts, TikToks or reels. And so that's what we film in our social challenges. We just film short content games or challenge style videos, and we let our students be the heroes in those stories.

00:45:10:18 - 00:45:33:23
Josh Boldman
And they love it. Like when they see one of their things posted, like the text meme, like, that was really good. And I'm like, yeah, it was. Nailed it. You know, my favorite. So I, our son is 16 and, and he has this thing that is a joke that he has started thinking is very funny. That he'll, he'll, like, start talking about something he saw online.

00:45:33:23 - 00:45:52:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And my wife would be like, well, like. And he's like, oh, don't worry, you'll see it on Instagram in three months. That's hilarious. You. And he's right. And, you know, he's 100% right. Because, you know, it's funny, yesterday I got a Facebook reel sent to me, and I had seen that on TikTok and then on Instagram and now.

00:45:52:16 - 00:46:15:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Oh, so that's even like, talk about lag, as you say. I'm just now finding out that Facebook has reels. That's right tastic. No. Yeah I no I knew that but no. But yeah, it's crazy. Well so then yeah small group like and I would encourage a small group leaders have group text and all of that is like ways the end of the day.

00:46:15:26 - 00:46:38:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The reason I'm so passionate about hybrid is not like, oh, it's cool and cutting edge in technology. It's more like this is an opportunity to reach students where they are and beyond your service moments, your service times. And so you can text them on a Thursday after school and ask them how that test went. You can text them on a Monday morning, even in a group and say, hey, I'm I'm praying for a great week for you guys.

00:46:38:29 - 00:47:02:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can send encouraging versus all things we just didn't have the ability to do before the invention of technology. And so I my challenge is just always encouraging churches and youth pastors to just not get stuck in the rut of only in-person. There's so much more that the world has to offer. And, and that the world, frankly, is already leaning into we as a church, churches has to find a way to catch up to it.

00:47:02:28 - 00:47:27:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So so good. Yeah. Sweet. Let's all we got. Anything else? Any final words, Josh? Drink your milk. You know, I feel like we've we've we've we've lost that one. You know, like, that was when, when I was little, they were like, drink your milk. You get strong bones. I don't know if that's true or not, but I don't feel like I've heard anyone tell me that in a long time, so I just want to share that.

00:47:27:27 - 00:47:34:18
Josh Boldman
Okay. Everyone else. All right. I will leave you with that wisdom. Until next time, everyone stay hybrid letter.

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01:11 The Challenge: In Person vs. Digital
02:58 Clarifying "Hybrid"
04:42 5:00 Countdown
09:12 Opening Worship Song
16:35 Host Moment & Announcements
22:00 Game - Where's the Ball
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. In this episode, I am going to be talking with my friend Josh Goldman. He works over at Download Youth Ministry. He does all the stuff with sidekick and he does, stuff with co-leader and Josh, honestly, I believe is one of, if not the greatest programing specialist for youth ministries in America.

00:00:23:19 - 00:00:43:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm really excited for you to hear it because some of his ideas are absolutely fantastic. But what we're gonna do is we're going to be debating between in-person and digital, and you're going to see me try to lean everything back towards hybrid. And what we're doing is he's bringing a youth ministry programing sheet and he's saying, this is what we're doing.

00:00:43:13 - 00:01:02:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do we make it digital? How do we, honor the people that might be watching online and more? I try to say, how can we make it hybrid? And so for those of you who are new here, hybrid is taking your in-person, taking your digital and finding a way to meet that intersection. And in most cases, I think that is at the intersection of students cell phones.

00:01:02:01 - 00:01:11:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you're going to see that this debate between digital versus in-person. So welcome to the show, the one and only Josh Boardman.

00:01:11:12 - 00:01:23:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Well what's up everybody. I'm here this morning with my good friend Josh Bullman. And we have a little bit of a unique idea. So Josh, tell the people what we're doing okay.

00:01:23:01 - 00:01:30:29
Josh Boldman
So as anyone watching slash listening knows, Nick Claussen is all about the hybrid ministry, right?

00:01:30:29 - 00:01:53:19
Josh Boldman
Making sure that the people that are at home are still connecting with what's happening in the room. Yeah. I spent most of my ministry, like, developing, and leading services in the room. And then, you know, Covid happened and things got crazy, and we we did a full pendulum swing to where, like, we did everything online. Yeah.

00:01:53:20 - 00:02:02:13
Josh Boldman
And then we came back and suddenly it was like, wait, are we still doing online or are we like, what are we doing? You know? And so it was the constant challenge of

00:02:02:13 - 00:02:11:27
Josh Boldman
trying to not just, create something in the room and just stream it, right, like, make it more interactive. So yeah. So today

00:02:11:27 - 00:02:12:18
Josh Boldman
what

00:02:12:18 - 00:02:19:29
Josh Boldman
we're doing is I have got a service that I've created for in the room, and I'm going to walk us through it.

00:02:20:02 - 00:02:26:26
Josh Boldman
And Nick is going to in real time because he has not seen it. Now you guys gotta know, I offered. I was like,

00:02:26:26 - 00:02:48:05
Josh Boldman
dude, do you want this ahead? And we could just fake it? And he's like, no, no, too much integrity. Way too much. Yeah. And so he's going to try like as we go to, we're going to think through each, each section and try and figure out what is it that we can do to make this something that people who are not in the room, you know, but the students at home.

00:02:48:07 - 00:03:08:03
Josh Boldman
And I'm curious, Nick, if this is, you know, maybe something we look at is, is it if they're watching live or even if they're watching later, like, how does that impact, well, your ability to participate.

00:03:08:03 - 00:03:11:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So yeah, and to be clear, like the way that I define hybrid is like it's the it's the two pieces.
So your in-person plus your digital and it's like them coming

00:03:11:17 - 00:03:11:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
together.

00:03:11:27 - 00:03:19:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so there may be elements I think a little more what I might try to do is like take, take what is going on in the room and find a way

00:03:19:22 - 00:03:44:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to allow it to exist beyond that moment. Yeah. Or find a way to intersect a student, like in a spot like their phone that will that will last beyond that, the time that you dismiss them to go home so they can take it home, like youth ministry, typically pre-digital, could only exist in the few hours that our church doors were open.

00:03:44:04 - 00:04:13:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so now we have the advantage of being able to access sometimes it's, you know, a curse versus a blessing, but we have the advantage of being able to access and have conversation with and disciple our students at a time that Wednesday night programing or Sunday morning or Sunday night programing isn't happening. And how can we take what we're doing in the room and offer it to students beyond that moment, or even in your place in what you were saying, maybe even as a replacement of it?

00:04:13:22 - 00:04:28:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So, like Josh said, I haven't seen any of this. I am a little nervous right now. Like earlier I was like, I'm fine, but now I'm a little nervous as I like get together. I got to be totally honest. I'm like, there are parts of it. Or I was like, oh, I can totally see how this is going to work.

00:04:28:05 - 00:04:42:24
Josh Boldman
And then there are other parts where I'm like, I don't know what he's going to do, how this is going to. Yeah. So bear with me. Stream of consciousness. And it may not be perfect and polished, but that's okay. That's what we're here for. So all right, let's do it. What is the first part of your service?

00:04:42:24 - 00:04:44:09
Josh Boldman
The five minute countdown.

00:04:44:13 - 00:04:45:20
Josh Boldman
Right. Okay, so we've got

00:04:45:20 - 00:05:19:08
Josh Boldman
students are in the room, they're playing nine square, they're playing gaga ball. They've got they're not paying attention to the countdown. Nobody cares what like someone spent a lot of time creating a countdown. Yeah, but ultimately no one cares about until it, like, reaches 10s. But there's there's a lot of interaction happening. And so, like, trying to think through is there is there something where we're trying to connect with students that are not in the room, or is there something we can do in the room to help students know, hey, it's not just you here.

00:05:19:08 - 00:05:43:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's yeah, there's more than that going on. Yeah. So one of the things about five minute countdowns that I actually hate, and I know that as talking to a guy who works for Download Youth Ministry, and that's where a lot of the money is made and a lot of five minute countdowns are sold. I actually prefer, which, by the way, talking to you right now, let this be an unofficial sidekick feature

00:05:43:09 - 00:05:44:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
request.

00:05:44:18 - 00:05:58:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. Because right now in sidekick, you can, you can loop your announcements, right? You can loop some, like, graphic slides. And I actually prefer that to be the five minute countdown with

00:05:58:07 - 00:06:11:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
just the five minute countdown overlaid in the corner, so that all of the announcements that you're announcing and trying to let your students know about are happening, is being seen on the screen.

00:06:11:03 - 00:06:22:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because if you think about it, if if the majority of people don't start paying attention to the screen until it's down to less than a minute, they missed all of the stuff that was looping ahead of time.

00:06:22:16 - 00:06:37:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the stuff that's looping ahead of time is the stuff that you want them to know about. And so whether it's hybrid, whether it's digital only or whether it's in person, like whatever you're announcing, I think you should leave that stuff on the screen as long as humanly possible.

00:06:37:20 - 00:06:56:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if you're able to put a little five minute countdown in the corner or even across the middle, but I try to design my slides in such a way that I think, like, all right, I'm going to do the left corner of this time and keep stuff out of the left corner. And so then we may have like our current series graphic, we may have an upcoming events.

00:06:56:02 - 00:07:13:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like at the time of recording, we got our costume party coming up and Christmas is on the horizon. So those types of things are there. But woven in my announcements, I might try to do, well, I what we do right now is like, I advertise our online baptism

00:07:13:19 - 00:07:22:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
course, which is a YouTube playlist. And there are so many times, like almost all of my slides at this point, have a QR code to you.

00:07:22:24 - 00:07:42:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Do you remember when the QR code was dying? Like, yeah, no one used it. So lame. Like, I remember having this conversation in a church staff meeting where it was like we could put a QR code on it. And I remember some would be like, does anyone use those? And the answer was no. Yeah. And then but now

00:07:42:25 - 00:07:46:18
Josh Boldman
how else would we get the menu at restaurants like this?

00:07:46:20 - 00:08:14:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I think I had the same meeting because at during Covid the question was how do we communicate things without handing things to people and passing germs? Yeah. And I suggested a QR code and I quote from our communications team, we will never use a QR code. And I kid you not, not two weeks later, what was on the screen, because it was the only way to do it and it made a comeback.

00:08:14:00 - 00:08:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I actually I've always thought QR codes were brilliant. They didn't get adopted early on, but now they're back and they make so much sense. So yeah, we have a subscription to like a QR code builder. I get like 160 different like unique QR codes. And so I abuse that. And so oh yeah, our baptism course, our text list like all of these things.

00:08:35:11 - 00:09:05:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so if a student during the five minute countdown, isn't playing nine square and they're kind of sitting already in the service or don't have anyone to talk to or something on the screen, does happen to sort of like catch their attention. They can pull their phone out. They can scan the QR code and they can get to it later, whether that be signing up for our text group, which will allow them access, or us access to them to send them encouraging messages or even just announcement type things, or even like discipleship related things like, hey, I'm ready to take a next step about baptism.

00:09:05:08 - 00:09:12:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me explore more about that through the baptism playlist. So all right, so there you go. That's what I would do. All right.

00:09:12:18 - 00:09:17:19
Josh Boldman
So at zero, usually what we'll do is we'll, we'll jump right into

00:09:17:19 - 00:09:17:29
Josh Boldman
the first

00:09:17:29 - 00:09:31:12
Josh Boldman
song. Right. And so our, our group, we had a live band. So that was, I mean, I, you know, it's one of those things where every time you talk about having a student band, this could go one of two very different ways.

00:09:31:15 - 00:09:51:29
Josh Boldman
And I will say, like, I've been really blessed to be at churches where, we had a really good, like, solid student led band that, I mean, had a, a track record of what I would say is in the neighborhood of 82%, like, okay, this is going to be a four out of five that it's going to go, well, so like so it would, it would hit pretty well.

00:09:51:29 - 00:10:08:10
Josh Boldman
And that was kind of in the room that was like the, the oh, oh we're starting like you know, so everybody's like getting getting into their seats getting music hits. Yeah. Yeah. And so I mean obviously in the room you got lyrics on the screen, you got we got, you know, some cameras going and stuff like that.

00:10:08:11 - 00:10:31:02
Josh Boldman
So yeah, like for, for worship on the live stream for people after like, are you like, is there anything different that you feel like you can do to set up to help again, the room feel like they're a part of what's happening at home and vice versa. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of different ideas. Let me first say, Josh, you might find this surprising.

00:10:31:13 - 00:10:55:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and the church I'm at now, I've been here two years. This is the first church in. You know, I guess by the time I moved here is, like, 12 years. So my first 12 years of ministry, I did not have a regular live worship band. Oh, yeah. Everywhere I've been prior, like, for one reason or another, the band didn't really, like, Take Root.

00:10:55:17 - 00:11:15:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I didn't try to kill it, but I also didn't have a massive like, that's not my bent. I'm not a worship guy. I can't play any instruments. And so I'm not trying to get that thing up and off the ground. And so for sure, I've had we've had worship at camps and retreats and at like one off worship nights and stuff like that, but not on like a regular, like rhythm.

00:11:15:09 - 00:11:38:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so let me just say to those of you out there in the majority of churches, right, like that, probably don't have a live stream, let's just be honest. And they may you might not even have quality like music means to pull off worship like I feel is. I mean, you know, you can be the judge of this, but I feel as though I did really good youth ministry for 12 years without a band.

00:11:38:19 - 00:12:02:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I and I don't even know, like in a, you know, in a typical youth service, it's what it's a little more like geared towards outsiders. Oftentimes I don't know that getting up there and singing about the blood of Jesus is often the most welcoming thing for an outsider. And so sometimes you may be shooting yourself in the foot, all in an effort to try and copy what you think youth ministries should be doing, which is worship.

00:12:02:24 - 00:12:22:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can program around worship. It's going to require a lot more creativity, which is essentially the basis of this episode. Like finding ways to be a little bit more creative with your programing and whatnot. So I'll only say that as an encouragement. Don't feel like you have to jam a worship band into like a space if it's not working.

00:12:22:12 - 00:12:47:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Not fitting the context isn't right, whatever the case may be. Yeah, I've always felt like we we were at places where we tried doing the, you know, the lyric videos, you know, that kind of thing. And it would, it would work in like seasons. But there were times we were just like, okay, this feels like we're showing them a video that they are begrudgingly watching for.

00:12:47:07 - 00:13:04:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah, 5.5 minutes. And then they sit down and it's like, okay, well, if it doesn't work, doesn't work. Like don't, don't force that. Yeah, that I think that probably hurts more than it helps if it feels like you're forcing it. Yeah. So take back to answer your specific question about what to do

00:13:04:07 - 00:13:11:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
about worship. Like, I will say when I'm thinking about in-person versus online, online,

00:13:11:25 - 00:13:20:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
in my opinion, is a fantastic content delivery system like podcasts, sermons can be podcasts, sermons can be YouTube videos.

00:13:20:27 - 00:13:32:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like that is what the internet is made for, right? What in person is made for that the internet can't always overcome is certain things like community. And one of those things I think it has

00:13:32:02 - 00:13:37:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
a hard time overcoming is live, in-person worship, shoulder to shoulder like

00:13:37:23 - 00:13:47:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
they're watching during Covid, watching worship online, versus watching worship in the room was a completely different experience.

00:13:47:04 - 00:14:06:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I sat in my recliner. I did not stand. I did not sing. I maybe like sung under my breath. But you know, I'm not getting up in my living room and like, worshiping like I would at church. And so that is, you know, one of the, in my opinion, advantages of in-person, I will say a couple ideas.

00:14:06:16 - 00:14:29:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One, during Covid, our church, I thought was fantastically innovative and our worship was not just like a band on a stage. It was like they were shot almost like a music video. And especially during Covid, all the individual musicians, like, they recorded all their parts and then they sent them back and then the editors, like, spliced it all together.

00:14:29:03 - 00:14:46:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Wow. It was so good. And of course, that wasn't sustainable. But when they pulled the plug on that, I was that that wasn't a youth ministry thing. But when they pulled the plug on that, I thought that was a big, big mistake because it was very good. And they went back to like an easier route. And I felt like it.

00:14:46:01 - 00:15:09:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It took away some of what made our online presence pretty, pretty good. Oh, yeah. But for the kids in the room for the hybrid, like, hey, how do we, like, let this, this attitude of worship live beyond, I mean, very simply, like, you can create a greatest hits like Spotify playlist of all the best worship songs that you and your students that they love.

00:15:09:15 - 00:15:28:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I especially like to do this for camps or retreats. I'll create the playlist even ahead of time, and I'll like float it out and I'll sneak it out via like our text lists, our social media so that people can grab Ahold of it. And so even if in the room, if you wanted to have one of those little Spotify, it's not a QR code, but it's similar to it.

00:15:28:01 - 00:15:38:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you scan Spotify's version of it and you can join the playlist, and, you know, even be cool. I'm come with this idea on the fly. You could create like a collaborative

00:15:38:18 - 00:15:49:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
like playlist, like our church's favorite worship songs, and it's a public playlist. And anyone with a Spotify account can go in and they can add their favorite worship songs.

00:15:49:13 - 00:16:02:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then you just got to keep that kind of front and center, like, hey, throughout the week. Like, hey, don't forget we got this, you know, collaborative worship playlist. If you know you want to worship God throughout this week, take a listen. Nice I like that. Yeah.

00:16:02:14 - 00:16:16:19
Josh Boldman
Something something that we did, during Covid was we would ask at the end of the service to, say like, hey, if there are songs that really speak to you like we want to do, you know, we want to lead you in those songs.

00:16:16:19 - 00:16:29:26
Josh Boldman
So it was kind of like a, hey, this week, let us know what songs you'd like to do next week, like that kind of a thing. I mean, I, I don't know that that was like super, super well-received, but it was, it was something. Right? It was at least something that that allowed a little bit back and forth.

00:16:29:29 - 00:16:39:13
Josh Boldman
Yeah. So we, we, we usually do one song, ready to tap, and then we would go into our hosting time. So where we, we would have two

00:16:39:13 - 00:16:53:18
Josh Boldman
volunteers, usually an adult and a student. If not it would be two adults. And you know, the I will be the first to say it was always hit or miss like every time.

00:16:53:25 - 00:17:10:02
Josh Boldman
And you know, because you're always like, oh that person's personality, you know. Yeah. It's like because you get because like people who are super nervous on stage. I totally get it. But it would be like you'd sit down with them, be like, they would want to know what is the what is the content of the announcement? Right?

00:17:10:03 - 00:17:21:17
Josh Boldman
It's like, okay, well, I can tell you that, like, for sure, we'll make sure you got that. And for them it was like as long as I know the information, I'm good. And it's, you know, there is there is more to this game than that, friend. But yeah,

00:17:21:17 - 00:17:28:03
Josh Boldman
one of the ways that we found to kind of help that process was we started doing the wheel of announcements.

00:17:28:04 - 00:17:47:02
Josh Boldman
You I love that sidekick. And and and the the best part, right is you can you can game the system. Right? You can tell it which was so we would have like, say if there were four announcements. That's too many. You know, I'd say three max. Yeah. But like so whatever number of announcements there were, we would always have one more.

00:17:47:04 - 00:18:09:18
Josh Boldman
And that wheel wedge was always like, everyone gets $100, you know, whatever. And so like, you have to make sure that the person in your booth, oh, man, you have to trust that person or, that could cost you dearly. Yeah. Like, oh, man. But it was great because it really was random. Yeah, but it would.

00:18:09:18 - 00:18:29:15
Josh Boldman
But especially when it would get down to the last two wedges and it was like half the wheel is everyone gets $100. And the other was like, you know, church picnic or whatever, and you spin it and it just like slowly goes. It's like, oh, you know, and it was great. Like, but it kept, you know, because the students in the room, they don't care about half the announcements you're giving.

00:18:29:15 - 00:18:43:21
Josh Boldman
But it was kind of fun every time it would pass the $100 thing, you know, that they'd want to see it. And so we would just change it to a new thing every week. And sometimes it would be they'd win a prize or there would be like, you know, something embarrassing that the person on stage would have to do.

00:18:43:24 - 00:19:05:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But that's a different way to gamify it so that it's more interesting than I've episode that talked about, like, stop posting announcements to social media like, no one cares and no one is getting on social media to know what's going on in your youth ministry. They'll they you do want them to know like it's just you're using it's the wrong like medium for it.

00:19:05:17 - 00:19:30:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so a lot of times in the same way we do announcement times of this service in our church, like we do need to get these things across. Yeah. But I think that like, you know, this isn't a direct answer to the question, but like, how how do you hybridize your announcements or like, how do you get your announcements across in like a, a different way than just like the host moment or the announcement moment in your planning center service rundown?

00:19:30:00 - 00:19:49:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like you, you use the mediums all all throughout the rest of the like, all throughout the rest of your like repertoire that you have to your advantage so you can post those. I do say you can post announcements to social media. You just have to be creative with it. Like one of my favorites is. I'll follow the link down below.

00:19:49:28 - 00:20:07:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But like those transition style videos. Have you seen the one where the dudes getting speared in the back by like a bull, and then people are diving into like, their rows of chairs? Like, yep. Do those like, get your you can still tell people on social media about what's going on your church. Just make it actually creative.

00:20:07:19 - 00:20:25:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic like no one. All right, you ready? You ready for some? I just thought like this. Like yes. Head right is right. So, so you could during your announcement time, you could record that video with your students, like. Yes. So that would be in the moment. You're like, hey, here's what we're gonna do.

00:20:25:24 - 00:20:43:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We got this thing coming up. We want to let everybody know about it. Here's, you know what it's going to be like, let's let's do this real quick. And yeah, just and you know what else? Like what else could you do? You could, random name generator. Your your contestant, you could, then get them up there and then what does that do.

00:20:43:01 - 00:20:44:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's a nod to your socials.

00:20:44:17 - 00:21:01:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so while you're announcing, you throw a graphic on screen that says we're social, it's guy QR codes, a link tree of all of your social handles. And the people in the room like, hey, go follow this because we're going to post this tomorrow. And that's been like, I'm going to, that's one of the things we've done in our youth ministry.

00:21:01:29 - 00:21:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We've created a social team and a social challenge component of every night of our youth ministry. And so students know they can go into our studio. We have a studio like it's bougie. All right, I get it. You can see the tour down below, but like, they know they can go in there and they can get on camera with their friends, and then eventually they're going to be the star on our social media.

00:21:25:02 - 00:21:50:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And it helps create like a little more appetite for it than just the youth pastors being like the the talent on social media. No one wants that, right? Unless we're looking stupid. Are you saying we're not as cool as we think we are? Is that okay? It depends how you think of yourself as true. You know, if you have a, if you're like very self-aware, then you probably know you're not very cool.

00:21:50:03 - 00:21:58:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're in your 30s or 40, to be honest. Okay. So then we transition into a game.

00:21:58:02 - 00:21:59:13
Josh Boldman
And this was

00:21:59:13 - 00:22:17:10
Josh Boldman
always like, so we had two different things that we we've tried off and on. One is the winner of the game gets to spin a wheel for a prize and it's just numbers on a wheel. And then we had like shoeboxes and it was like, you know, you win box number seven and then you get the box, open it up.

00:22:17:10 - 00:22:34:02
Josh Boldman
And it's either a great prize or terrible prize, something like that. I love that, and I'm probably stealing that. Now that you just said that, is it. Honestly it was pretty cool. Like and that's like a YouTube video right there. That's like Ryan's world, you know. Yeah. And it wouldn't let you do is it let you not always have to keep buying awesome prizes?

Josh Boldman
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. Because oh man it was. And what you so like at the very beginning we would tell people like you know, so like we, we change them out every quarter or something like that and it would be like, hey, just so you know, in these 12 boxes, there are, a $10 Apple gift card. There's, you know, you know, just you tell them kind of, hey, here are a couple of the big things are in here.

00:22:55:16 - 00:23:13:12
Josh Boldman
Yeah. And then just as you get it, you know, one week, person rolls, number five. Great. They get box five. So then you just take that one off the list, and so you don't even have to, like, buy a new prize every week. You just have to have it all loaded upfront and you just put like, old crap that's laying around your church into those boxes, too.

00:23:13:13 - 00:23:34:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So good, so good. Right? It could be any. I mean, just honestly, anything, it's a mug, anything good. Right? It says you're voted most likely to need coffee. Like. Oh, yeah, that one that is, the other thing that we started doing was we do we did the impossible shot. Yeah. So yeah, the deal is like the traditional

00:23:34:15 - 00:23:41:04
Josh Boldman
impossible shot has always been like, if you are here for the first time or you were the person who invited that person for

00:23:41:04 - 00:23:44:12
Josh Boldman
the first time, you get to take a shot at this impossibly small target.

00:23:44:19 - 00:24:07:03
Josh Boldman
And if it goes through, you win a prize. But we, we started doing is the winner of the game, got to take the shot. And so it even made it, like, more, you know, your chance of winning the game was small. Yeah. And then that makes you even smaller. And we would add every week, we would add to the bucket of what do you win if you get the impossible shot.

00:24:07:03 - 00:24:23:13
Josh Boldman
And so like you started out with it's a bunch of candy. Okay. Then it's like one of every candy and then it's like, all right, gift card, you know, and so you just kind of slowly build it, until somebody wins it. It was one of the things we did. But I'm curious, like, so the possible shot rate is, agrees it.

00:24:23:13 - 00:24:42:19
Josh Boldman
So we would like. That's what I set up in this one was winner of the game. And the game would be like, where's the ball? We're doing doing 100. Probably by the time this is out, we will have already done it. So. Yeah. So, signed up for next year. But, one of the things that I made was a, a game called Where's the ball?

00:24:42:19 - 00:24:59:09
Josh Boldman
Obscure sports edition. Yeah. And so it's like link down below. Go give Josh goodness. Yeah. No, it'll be actually, you know, it'll be free in sidekick. So if you, if you have. Yeah. It'll be one of those like click on the little free button at the top and the little red dot pops up and you're like, oh my goodness me.

00:24:59:12 - 00:25:17:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But it's like I need to look at that more frequently than I do. Yeah you do, I don't. Yeah, it's there's some good stuff in there. So the sports I've got are curling, I've got ax throwing, I've got, Oh, have you ever heard of cycle ball? No. Basically like soccer. But you play on bicycles.

00:25:17:27 - 00:25:39:14
Josh Boldman
Okay. Who's the front wheel of the bike to kick the ball? It's sane. Sounds insane. And I feel as though I would die. Horribly dangerous. The other one is unicycle hockey, which is exactly what it sounds like. And it is magical. But but that is, you know, I mean, so one of the things like that, what we when I first started making the where's the ball games, right.

00:25:39:14 - 00:25:44:24
Josh Boldman
That was very much you had to be in the room to make it work. But then with sidekick, we've done where it's voting

00:25:44:24 - 00:25:52:00
Josh Boldman
now. And so we worked really hard, especially during Covid and after, to make it wear our, when we were live

00:25:52:00 - 00:25:59:00
Josh Boldman
streaming that it was as low lag as possible. So people at home really could also vote in.

00:25:59:06 - 00:26:16:02
Josh Boldman
And we got it, you know, down to like, I think you can without too much trouble. You can get the lag down to like three four seconds. Not too bad. Yeah. And so we would do that where you could see on the screen, you know, people voting, that kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah, so we did that, but then so impossible

00:26:16:02 - 00:26:16:13
Josh Boldman
shot.

00:26:16:15 - 00:26:16:26
Josh Boldman
That

00:26:16:26 - 00:26:18:01
Josh Boldman
is a in the room

00:26:18:01 - 00:26:40:16
Josh Boldman
phenomenon. Yep. Is there anything we could you can do to make that, something that someone at home feels like they're able to connect with? Or is it really just a show? The highlight. And and they get to celebrate if it happened? Yeah. I mean, like, if it's a true live stream, which again, like I said earlier, not a lot of youth ministries have like full live streaming capabilities.

00:26:40:18 - 00:27:01:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So even what we do, what I recommend to a lot of people is like most people are not interested in tuning in to your full youth service, like, so we pre-record all of our messages for YouTube into like a 12 minute, like teaching type of deal. So like that's what I would recommend. Like that's what people are getting on YouTube in the internet for.

00:27:02:01 - 00:27:12:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Is there a way to reclaim a live stream impossible shot type moment like there might be like a sort of like voting type thing. Like, do you think that they

00:27:12:07 - 00:27:21:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
can get it or not? You're going to need a moderator in your chat to like initiate that poll. So like let's say you won and it's like, congratulations to Josh.

00:27:21:10 - 00:27:40:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Will Josh hit the impossible shot yes or no? And they can vote there in the poll like in the chat or something like that. I think like YouTube or maybe Facebook has some of that like functionality built in. But what I might do like a as an alternative to the impossible shot or depending on your game.

00:27:40:27 - 00:27:50:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. Like, one of my favorite styles of games is creating like, you can do like those, like sculpture, building types of games or like, let

00:27:50:14 - 00:28:14:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
students in teams create something together. And then you can, like, take pictures of all of them and they can vote on them either. Oh, I like that on sidekick live in the room or what we've done in the past is we've said, hey, these are going to be on our Instagram Stories, go vote on them, and then we'll announce the winner on Sunday, which is like our next meeting time or what I like that I like.

00:28:14:27 - 00:28:29:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the winning group will get a pizza party next week. Yeah. And so, you know, like, those are different. Those are just different ideas, obviously. So to answer your question, I would try to just create like, a poll type of thing. I think that's. Yeah. That's the best idea. I got the top of my head right now.

00:28:29:29 - 00:28:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's, but some other, like, ideas

00:28:32:06 - 00:28:56:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
and let me jump in and say, in the land of prizes, another great like, free to you prize is, so we are our set up is, round tables. And so you oftentimes your table is your team in whatever sort of thing you're competing in game trivia, whatever. And so a lot of times we'll, let the winning team go sit in what we call the best seats in the house.

00:28:57:00 - 00:29:14:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so we'll put some, like, couches in, like, nicer seats than, like, the tables there. And then we'll just stuff that area full of, like, snacks and drinks, and they get to sit there during like the teaching time. And oftentimes we have all the snacks and drinks on hand, and it's just couches that we have laying around, but they're nicer than tables.

00:29:14:07 - 00:29:32:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can give students that opportunity. It's similar to like your your box of prizes type of thing. So it in the box are prizes. One of the things we learned was, I kept forgetting to refill the boxes and so, what we started putting in the boxes as as a prize was pizza party for your small group next week?

00:29:32:25 - 00:29:51:01
Josh Boldman
Yeah, yeah. Like, you know. So it's always like a hey, you want it right now, but you're going to get it next year. So it would get kids to come back next week. But also if like say that small group won and they had five kids that night, next week they're going to have 15. Like it's just it's crazy because they know like oh yeah we won the prizes.

00:29:51:01 - 00:30:09:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah. So and then you didn't order enough pizza ever. It's just so, you know you know it's something you'll see in the Facebook group a lot is the do I on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. How many pizzas should I order for a thing? I always order too much because then it's lunch for me for the rest of the week.

00:30:10:06 - 00:30:29:04
Josh Boldman
It's like, oh, they're good. That's how it. Yeah. The secret. I think that might be embezzlement. I'm not sure now that. Yeah, whatever. It's okay. We can cut that part out. Yeah. Whatever it, So there we go from there. We might, at that point do another song. But then we're going to go to a bumper video and you answer the lesson.

00:30:29:04 - 00:30:30:28
Josh Boldman
Now, the lesson that,

00:30:30:28 - 00:30:33:02
Josh Boldman
I'm doing this week is going to be,

00:30:33:02 - 00:30:39:01
Josh Boldman
on, Peter walking on water. Okay. And in the the idea is the big idea for it is

00:30:39:01 - 00:30:52:28
Josh Boldman
that your first step is meant to be followed by a second step. So it's like, the whole idea is like momentum, things like that. So the way that we would do this and we did this, and I can, I can send you pictures of how we did it.

00:30:53:01 - 00:31:16:29
Josh Boldman
We built this basically like this trough, and we covered it in plastic sheets. And then we put a tarp over that, and then we filled it with cornstarch and water, as you put it, at the right consistency. It's a it's a, it's a substance called oobleck or a non-Newtonian fluid. Okay. Which means if you just touch it it's liquid.

00:31:16:29 - 00:31:25:23
Josh Boldman
But if you hit it, it's solid, like it's crazy cool seeing it, right? Yeah. And so what that means is if you again, if you get the right

00:31:25:23 - 00:31:38:10
Josh Boldman
consistency, if you run on it, you can run completely on top of it. You will not see no way. But any point that you stop, you will sink right in like it's over.

00:31:38:12 - 00:31:58:28
Josh Boldman
And so what we would do is, is so yeah, that's the idea. Right? So Peter, Jesus calls him out on the water. He starts walking. It's working. But then as soon as he stops, he looks down. He starts to sink. And so Jesus gives him, you know, a bit of a, a talking to and, and so then, you know, then they he reaches out, pulls Peter back up, they climb back in the boat.

00:31:59:02 - 00:32:21:17
Josh Boldman
And so, what we're trying to tell the kids is like, hey, yeah, we want everybody to take a first step. You know? We all know what else we want. You. We want you to like. First step gives you momentum. Just keep taking steps like keep going. Yeah. And so, so the way we would end this service is in this is probably in the room going to be chaos.

00:32:21:19 - 00:32:40:10
Josh Boldman
And I'm I'm very comfortable with that especially like because it's so it's going to end with communion. Right. And so that which is not you know I've been in different groups where, where we've done communion every week. I've done groups where we do it like literally hardly ever. And, you know, and so this was one day where we did it every week.

00:32:40:13 - 00:33:05:07
Josh Boldman
And but what I would do is I would set that that, that trough up. So that students, in order to go and get the communion elements, get to run across the thing, to go get the cookie. So it's like, hey, that you're, you're chasing after Jesus, you're, you're taking this first step and you're not stopping. So like I said, you know, normally like communion is a fairly like somber time.

00:33:05:07 - 00:33:24:23
Josh Boldman
This would not be that because it would be a bit chaotic. But and they'd be taking their shoes off and they, you know, running across, but then, then they get the elements and they would take them right there, and then they then they go back to their seat. And so we would one we'd have to figure out stuff for the students to do when they're back in their seat.

00:33:24:25 - 00:33:59:26
Josh Boldman
Yeah. Because that, you know, it's going to take a minute. Yeah. They watching all that. But I mean, it wouldn't be like, you know, super, super engaging. But but the moment of running across, they absolutely loved it. Like, I mean, it was just the coolest thing ever. Yeah. So like but and then we would dismiss the small groups, but it's that that type of experience is, is really like a in the room thing, like because, because so one of the things I've always said about, like trying to be creative in your programing is like, you get to say yes to things that no one else ever says yes to.

00:34:00:02 - 00:34:10:06
Josh Boldman
And so like this. Like, in order to do this, we had to buy like 150 pounds of, of corn starch from like a food grade service company. Like it was just like they bring it in on a

00:34:10:06 - 00:34:16:17
Josh Boldman
pallet. It oh, it was crazy. Like it is absolutely insane. But no one is going to be able to do that at home.

00:34:16:24 - 00:34:34:16
Josh Boldman
I mean, they do it like, and so like one of the things is we would like walk them through, like, how did how to make it at home and at a very smaller scale. Yeah. I think it is one way to do that, but I don't know, like, I feel like in that moment that having an experience like that just like, creates a core memory, right?

00:34:34:16 - 00:34:34:26
Josh Boldman
It's like

00:34:34:26 - 00:34:54:15
Josh Boldman
the locks in there going to remember the teaching, if ever so slightly, because of the experience. It's just kind of like try and get your thoughts on yeah. What do you do to help someone who's either experiencing it later or experiencing at home? How do they how do they lock in that same that same idea? And any thoughts there?

00:34:54:15 - 00:34:57:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Yeah for sure. So, once again, like I said,

00:34:57:23 - 00:35:15:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
there are certain things that in-person that digital can't do to like replace and frankly, vice versa. But this is a prime example. So here's the here's the shame. Josh. Like, this is why you're the best youth ministry

00:35:15:20 - 00:35:21:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
programmer in America. Because this what what a title, right?

00:35:21:08 - 00:35:46:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The fact is this, like if all your students are coming to in the room is a lecture style sermon, they can get they can 100% get that online. Right. And and it'll be better. Exactly. Let's call it what it is right there online. Somebody do it better if it's just lecture style. Yeah. And so again here's our strategy.

00:35:46:04 - 00:36:04:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If we were doing that I would totally do that in the room. We don't live stream. And so instead of trying to replicate a live stream moment, now if you were in a position where you had to do that, I think, you know, what Josh's point was, is I would I would try to get a camera on the actual like trough thing so that

00:36:04:20 - 00:36:07:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
people can watch that and then maybe encourage people

00:36:07:02 - 00:36:16:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
with like, text on screen to go get some element so that they too can take, you know, communion and then give them the opportunity if they want to build it.

00:36:16:08 - 00:36:34:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're not going to probably be able to do that, like right in the moment. Like, do they have enough corn starch? Do they have a bowl? Like, you know what I mean? Probably that. So what we would do in our context now is we would film a talk about Peter walking on water for YouTube, direct to camera, 15 minutes or less.

00:36:34:04 - 00:37:02:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Really, really highly edited. And so if I wanted to use like B-roll or anything like that from like The Chosen as I'm illustrating this Peter point, like that's going to be on screen, it's not just going to be me talking. We're going to use the medium of video that we have to our advantage and do certain things like so this isn't in the same vein, but one time I was talking about how like, God knows the big picture and on screen I said, does anyone know what this is?

00:37:02:04 - 00:37:19:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Comment down below if you know it. And there's like a super zoomed in like grainy, pixelated something or other. And then in the next frame it like zoomed out and you can see this like beautiful painted canvas. And the point I made in that was like God's painting a picture and you can't see the outcome. He's in control.

00:37:19:07 - 00:37:27:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You're. And that's just an example. And you could do that in the room with like, a slide. But that's just an example of something that you can do with a

00:37:27:15 - 00:37:29:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video. And so I

00:37:29:03 - 00:37:42:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
wouldn't try to recreate that moment because it's probably un replicating. Right. But I would create something that at the end of the day, your bottom line was the first steps, always

00:37:42:09 - 00:37:43:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
followed by a second step.

00:37:43:20 - 00:38:08:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I think you can teach that and deliver that online for anyone who's not there. And that's again, one of the reasons we don't do like a quote live stream is because a we don't have the equipment, but if you miss out on it, you sort of feel like it's over instead. Like, what is YouTube great for? Like, I get on YouTube, I don't know about you, but I get on there when like, I have a clog in my sink and I search how to fix, clog and sink.

00:38:09:00 - 00:38:32:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Like in the same way. Water heater based on YouTube and a skylight. See, I, I think I broke the law. I've admitted to doing this now twice. Yeah. Don't worry, that's the power of editing. But I'll probably leave it in. But, a student might get on and be like, ask a question. Like a tough question. Like, is such and such a sin?

00:38:32:29 - 00:38:52:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
How do I grow my faith? How do I start making disciples? How do I whatever? And so that's what I'm trying to do on YouTube, is I'm trying to title and tag my videos in such a way that, like, they're going to be found in search from a teenager or anyone for that matter, but particularly a teenager who's asking big questions about life and about faith.

00:38:52:24 - 00:38:58:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you're doing one thing in the room. But online, they're both hopefully accomplishing

00:38:58:10 - 00:39:17:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
the same ultimate goal. And that's where I would say, like the the difference of hybrid hybrid is not just digital, right? It's both. And so a good in room experience is going to like be worth its weight in gold. We don't have to try to like replace it.

00:39:17:05 - 00:39:21:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What I will say a great hybrid experience for teaching.

00:39:21:03 - 00:39:29:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you haven't checked this out, one of my favorite resources, is like the YouVersion live events. And so in built

00:39:29:09 - 00:39:40:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
in woven into the YouVersion Bible app, there's a section called live. And so you can make it be, quote live when your service is live. And you can put your outline basically in there.

00:39:40:28 - 00:39:58:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And what's great about it is you can also link Bible reading plan. So always link a Bible reading plan at the end of any message. So like in that one I would link something about taking next steps like a 4 or 5 day Bible reading plan for a student to jump into if they wanted. And we always have a next steps form.

00:39:58:14 - 00:40:00:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
We have a digital next steps form that

00:40:00:04 - 00:40:14:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
just lives in perpetuity on our website. And so at the bottom second to bottom of my YouVersion live event, I put a link. So you ready to next step? Let us know. We want to take it with you. And then it's a link and it can go external. It can go external to anything.

00:40:14:04 - 00:40:36:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can also link like camp sign ups or retreat sign ups or denial sign ups like you can you can link to anything. And that's a great way for a student hybrid to like take something and they can save that event and they can get back to it later. They can like take private notes on it. So it's something that they're in the room, but they're taking notes on their device.

00:40:36:01 - 00:40:43:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now later, if they have a question or whatever they want to like continue on in their faith. Like, that's a fantastic we call it,

00:40:43:09 - 00:40:52:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
digital notes, like it's the YouVersion live events platform, but we like have branded it like digital notes. And as I said, it's QR code. So I just

00:40:52:04 - 00:41:01:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
swap the the same QR code and then our tables in our room we have a little like standing placard thing and it says follow along for the digital notes.

00:41:01:04 - 00:41:21:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Students can scan it and it'll pull open that week's YouVersion live event. So it changes every week based on that particular thing. So that would be a hybrid solution to like the content in the room. Your ending piece is fantastic, right? And so I don't think you want to try to like replicate that in someone's house necessarily.

00:41:21:10 - 00:41:36:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I think you could pre film that if kids don't make it or if a kid down the road comes to your youth minister that wasn't there that night or they weren't attending your church, you and they have a question about taking a next step. You can be like, hey, this is my favorite part about putting your stuff on YouTube.

00:41:36:03 - 00:41:48:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can like, hey, we actually have a fantastic teaching on it. I'll send you the link. It's right here. And you don't have to say, oh man, you should have been here last month. We did this really cool thing. Like they can still have access to it. So

00:41:48:27 - 00:41:57:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
some some that, I was thinking of with this particular type of thing is filming, like, a behind the scenes, like as you're making it, like.

00:41:57:05 - 00:42:12:25
Josh Boldman
Yes, it could be. It could be really power, even as students have run across it, like just catching them right at the end and be like, hey, can you would you? Yeah. How do you remember this or what? What what was this experience like? And just having like, you know, featuring a couple of them I think could could go a long way for sure.

00:42:12:25 - 00:42:36:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's one of my strategy. Like in my, like social media calendar, like Wednesday night, which is our youth night, I film just I post like a recap video of what we did. And so for that night, that's that might be what I do is just focus on the trough moment. Right. Or if you don't have anything that's as like unique or powerful as that, you can just get a little snippets of the whole night so you can get kids playing nine square.

00:42:36:22 - 00:42:55:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Kids worship in the band, worship being the the pastor teaching. And then you take, you know, 7 to 12 clips. You put them in something like TikTok, it'll auto cut it for you and boom, you got a post that takes you less than a minute. You know, I love it. So dude. So good. Look at us. Look at that.

00:42:55:13 - 00:43:20:09
Josh Boldman
We figured it out so good. This is really fun. Is that the end of your service? Yeah, well, I mean, we were dismissed as small groups. And there's something that we did there, that, you know, trying to engage outside of just the small group time was like we would send, discussion questions to parents, you know, like, or we and we had, like, a, like a reminder text sign up that was like, hey, here's what we're talking about tonight.

00:43:20:09 - 00:43:40:19
Josh Boldman
Here are three questions for the ride home or for the. Yeah. You know, and so whether a kid was there and on the ride home or if, you know, they missed that night, there's still you know, their parents still got a, you know, a conversation starter of some kind, I think was pretty good. And that's the advantage I've found in pre filming as well.

00:43:40:19 - 00:44:06:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
There's so many advantages. Like at first it was like so history for us like we did just Like you a full live like YouTube show during Covid. Like it was a youth group for YouTube. But eventually as restrictions lifted, that grew tired and people didn't wanna just get on sit behind a computer, a live stream, especially during the summer of 2020, they're like, I'm just going to go out where I can't catch Covid as long as I'm outside.

00:44:06:11 - 00:44:24:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's, you know, that started to engagement with that and the shininess of it. You know, initially it was like this really interesting thing. But by episode 28 it's like, yeah, kind of lost some of its luster. But there is still something really cool. It's like there was a teaching component, but it was all the way at the end of the video.

00:44:24:07 - 00:44:48:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when I came here and readjusted my thought process a little bit, I was like, the teaching is so valuable. Like, I want kids to be able to hear about the truth of Jesus, and I want them to be able to have access to it online. How can we do that? And so if some or some of the other kind of components that we did during Covid, but make it maybe a little more adaptable to 2022 and then those 2023, 24.

00:44:48:18 - 00:45:10:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that's where we do our teaching longform on YouTube and everything else is shorts. I read something the other day, just like 90% of the internet's traffic now is shorts, TikToks or reels. And so that's what we film in our social challenges. We just film short content games or challenge style videos, and we let our students be the heroes in those stories.

00:45:10:18 - 00:45:33:23
Josh Boldman
And they love it. Like when they see one of their things posted, like the text meme, like, that was really good. And I'm like, yeah, it was. Nailed it. You know, my favorite. So I, our son is 16 and, and he has this thing that is a joke that he has started thinking is very funny. That he'll, he'll, like, start talking about something he saw online.

00:45:33:23 - 00:45:52:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And my wife would be like, well, like. And he's like, oh, don't worry, you'll see it on Instagram in three months. That's hilarious. You. And he's right. And, you know, he's 100% right. Because, you know, it's funny, yesterday I got a Facebook reel sent to me, and I had seen that on TikTok and then on Instagram and now.

00:45:52:16 - 00:46:15:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Oh, so that's even like, talk about lag, as you say. I'm just now finding out that Facebook has reels. That's right tastic. No. Yeah I no I knew that but no. But yeah, it's crazy. Well so then yeah small group like and I would encourage a small group leaders have group text and all of that is like ways the end of the day.

00:46:15:26 - 00:46:38:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The reason I'm so passionate about hybrid is not like, oh, it's cool and cutting edge in technology. It's more like this is an opportunity to reach students where they are and beyond your service moments, your service times. And so you can text them on a Thursday after school and ask them how that test went. You can text them on a Monday morning, even in a group and say, hey, I'm I'm praying for a great week for you guys.

00:46:38:29 - 00:47:02:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can send encouraging versus all things we just didn't have the ability to do before the invention of technology. And so I my challenge is just always encouraging churches and youth pastors to just not get stuck in the rut of only in-person. There's so much more that the world has to offer. And, and that the world, frankly, is already leaning into we as a church, churches has to find a way to catch up to it.

00:47:02:28 - 00:47:27:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So so good. Yeah. Sweet. Let's all we got. Anything else? Any final words, Josh? Drink your milk. You know, I feel like we've we've we've we've lost that one. You know, like, that was when, when I was little, they were like, drink your milk. You get strong bones. I don't know if that's true or not, but I don't feel like I've heard anyone tell me that in a long time, so I just want to share that.

00:47:27:27 - 00:47:34:18
Josh Boldman
Okay. Everyone else. All right. I will leave you with that wisdom. Until next time, everyone stay hybrid letter.

]]> Episode 119: How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 4 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/119 4d9b0796-e6cc-4d0c-b9a2-a4d756692e53 Thu, 17 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 119 How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 4 full Nick Clason The Fourth and Final Easy & Effective Social Media Idea for Churches and Youth Ministries! 10:43 no ๐Ÿ’ก100 Topics Ideas & Templates๐Ÿ’ก https://share.hsforms.com/1JOHqd4XOTbC5ZgfXB85BCwnumis ๐Ÿ”ฅ Transition & CapCut Template Suggestions๐Ÿ”ฅ https://share.hsforms.com/1UrHggOX1Q3mH_A3F3f8dWwnumis ========= DESCRIPTION My New Favorites (And Easy Way) to create a lot of social media content for your church and youth ministry without losing your life to editing and capturing! 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Part four. This is 00:00:05:21 - 00:00:13:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the fourth and final installment of the playlist that we are currently in. Here on YouTube. Giving you 00:00:13:04 - 00:00:20:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry as a youth pastor the four easiest idea with a bonus tip. 00:00:20:09 - 00:00:31:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, what we've been doing is we've been tracking through all of the different, social media, frameworks that I use in our student ministry that I have set students off to do. 00:00:31:08 - 00:00:44:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's the part that's easy. You know, these these games with these challenges, they may not be easy, but now that I have students owning it and that I have students running it, it is making my life and my job 00:00:44:11 - 00:00:52:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry as a youth pastor incredibly easy. And so the fourth and final idea, the fourth and final piece of this installment is 00:00:52:24 - 00:00:58:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry transition videos paired with cap cut style memes. 00:00:58:09 - 00:01:11:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now link right here. At the top of the video is a, episode I had with one of my friends, Erik with a K, and we talked about events and better event promotion, and I said, this is the only, 00:01:11:07 - 00:01:22:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry way really to do event promotion on social media, because when you think about event promotion, more often than not you are thinking about, posting a graphic and letting people know about your event. 00:01:22:15 - 00:01:35:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But those don't do very well on social for the, you know, and for the for the first and second part, people go on social media to be entertained, to laugh, to whatever. And so these transition style videos where it starts with the 00:01:35:00 - 00:01:41:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry video of something else and the most popular one I can think about is like a, a bull, ramming a guy during the running of the bulls. 00:01:41:19 - 00:02:15:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then all these people cutting right there to jumping into the back of some chairs and jumping into the back of some furniture at your church and inviting people in your, following you on social media, whatever, inviting them to church. And so these style videos are, a great way to, again, just like the other three that we've been talking about, to send your students out to batch record to tell them, hey, when, you know, when I say, go do this, jump here, do this, this back flip, like, whatever, whatever the the video demands of it. 00:02:15:28 - 00:02:32:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And if you start looking for those videos on social media, you'll be able to find those videos on social media. And so, those transition style videos paired with cap cut style videos and so link down below, is a link that will take 00:02:32:04 - 00:02:35:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you to my six favorite of each of those styles, 00:02:35:09 - 00:02:42:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry six of my favorite cap cut meme style videos, and six of my favorite transition based style videos. 00:02:42:09 - 00:03:06:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But I also want to let you know that if you hop, down in the link in the description, you will get all of my topic ideas and all of my other templates that I've been talking about and teasing through the first three videos of this playlist. And so if you take each of those two free downloadable links, and then you go and you start filming content not just for your students, but with your students, that's really like the differentiate. 00:03:06:25 - 00:03:07:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's really 00:03:07:17 - 00:03:32:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry what we're trying to encourage youth pastors and people in there. And people like running church social media to do film content with people, in your church film content, especially with your students, especially with the next generation. You do that for a while. Then you can begin to start to build up enough team, enough volunteer base to start handing some of these things off so that it's being done for you. 00:03:32:03 - 00:03:50:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And all you're doing then is worrying about your posting schedule. Now for the bonus tip. The bonus idea that I have is one of my all time favorite videos, and this one is, you can do it with students, or you can do it with yourself as a youth pastor. And I think that sometimes that makes the most sense. 00:03:50:21 - 00:04:09:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But, it's a framework. And I saw it somewhere, somehow on a social media platform. But you're scrolling through and immediately when you get there, the person's just pointing like this, right? And they're pointing to a text on screen that says stay or scroll. And then underneath it, it says, why? Says stay your scroll, read Scripture with me. 00:04:09:18 - 00:04:41:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then what you do is you read, portion of Scripture for 60s or less. And if you get done reading the scripture, you also, you also then just kind of give them like a little devotional idea, a little devotional thought on like, why you like the verse wise, challenging how it encourages people. And it's a really great way to integrate spiritual practice and spiritual content because like, think about you're physically reading scripture with, the people on your feed, the people that are following you. 00:04:41:13 - 00:05:07:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you think about the idea of hybrid taking your in-person and taking your digital and melding them together with the two, it's taking what you do in-person, which is teaching the Bible and sharing Jesus. And, you know, sharing his word and his truth and his gospel, and you're telling, and you're you're bringing that into the everyday moments in the everyday life components of your students and your followers on social media. 00:05:07:17 - 00:05:09:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's a fantastic, 00:05:09:20 - 00:05:25:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry devotional tool. Now, now that I have given you not only the four that you can do with your students, but that bonus tip of stay or scroll if you look here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I post two times per day. And so if every time you're with your students, you're having them batch record. 00:05:25:26 - 00:05:37:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if they're doing, night where they're, you know, capturing a bunch of โ€œDrafts,โ€ if they get 5 or 6, if you go to, you know, โ€œSeven Questions,โ€ they get 5 or 6 the next week. If they do โ€œMan on the Street,โ€ they do 5 or 6. 00:05:37:02 - 00:05:39:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then if they do these transition style videos, they get 5 or 6. 00:05:39:28 - 00:05:42:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Cap cut memes you give a couple 5 or 6, whatever. 00:05:42:25 - 00:05:56:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you also, can sit down and do a bunch of these, โ€œStay or Scrollโ€ videos, get, you know, as many as you can in one sitting with, four staff members. I was able to get like, 20, a couple weeks back. So you can get them pretty quick. 00:05:56:14 - 00:06:12:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you. So you just start batch recording them. If you think about it, for me, I post five days a week because I work five days a week. I don't post on my days off. It's just like a margin thing. You could. It's not that big of a deal if you do. But, you know, I like to be off and be all the way off from work. 00:06:12:22 - 00:06:32:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, I post, three message clips per week, and then I post one of these other five things that we've talked about one draft, one seven questions, one transition video, one man on the street, and then one stay or scroll. So you add all those together. That's eight I post five days a week, twice a day. 00:06:32:24 - 00:07:00:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That leaves me with two additional spots. One thing that I also do is and it's not video based, but I do a meme Monday. All right. I'm just as I'm scrolling social media, I ask other people in our team also, as they're scrolling social media to screenshot memes and put them in a meme folder. And so I have a meme folder with probably over 200 memes, and I just go in there and I just pick my favorite ones, download them, you know, move them to a new folder that says posted or archived or whatever. 00:07:00:24 - 00:07:19:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I don't, you know, use the same ones and consecutive weeks. And then I add so that fills in that additional spot there. And then the last spot is, when we meet on Wednesday nights, I walk around with my camera and I film little, snippets and little clips, and then I just bring that into cap cut. 00:07:19:11 - 00:07:32:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry No. So no cap. I bring them to TikTok, add all those clips, click a little button, they're called auto cut. And then, TikTok will create for me a little recap style video based on the clips that I have provided. And that's just like a recap video 00:07:32:12 - 00:07:35:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of our Wednesday night programing. So you add all those together. 00:07:35:13 - 00:07:42:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The the four easy social media ideas run by my student ministry team who are both capturing it and now editing it, the 00:07:42:12 - 00:07:43:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry stay or scroll, which 00:07:43:11 - 00:07:47:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry they can also edit that one. It's a really easy one to edit. And then my three 00:07:47:05 - 00:07:48:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry message clips and then 00:07:48:23 - 00:07:52:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Meme Monday and then, the recap video, there's all 00:07:52:06 - 00:07:54:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry ten of my clips and then I interspersed throughout the week. 00:07:54:17 - 00:08:11:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I don't do it like, you know, Meme Monday, obviously I post on Monday, my message clips, I post about same days. I do a Thursday because we had just preached on on Wednesday. I do it on Sunday because that's the connect group topic for that day. And then I do it again on Tuesday as just a reminder like, hey, don't forget this what we had talked about. 00:08:11:20 - 00:08:32:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the following Thursday I post again the new one because we had a new message on any given Wednesday. But all those other ones, those stay or scroll draft, seven questions, man on the Street and transition videos. I move those all throughout my week like I have kind of my my standing pillars like every day. You know, like Sunday is a teaching, Monday is Meme Monday. 00:08:32:21 - 00:08:50:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Tuesday is another teaching clip. Wednesday is the recap, video and then Thursday is another teaching clip. So any of those five, I just sprinkle them throughout any of those other places. And so I try to post like one draft per week. I try to post like one seven questions per week. I try to post like one man on the street per week. 00:08:50:19 - 00:09:07:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if I've already posted one, then you know, on Sunday. Then when I get to Monday, I'm not going to do double duty and post another draft. I'll go get one of the other ones. And the beautiful thing is, I store all of that stuff in Google Drive, and I know I created just like an archive folder. And so when I've posted it, I move it into archive. 00:09:07:08 - 00:09:10:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so any of the ones that are an archive, I've already done, any 00:09:10:03 - 00:09:25:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of the ones that are not in archive, I I know I'm free to post and then I post it and I move it to archive and that's it. I don't use a scheduling tool. I still post to Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube, and I do those all directly from my phone. 00:09:25:16 - 00:09:43:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I'll go on Google Drive on my phone, download the video, and then go post it in all three places. I may copy and paste the caption as I'm going and post it in all three places. And then and then I delete it off my phone, you know, to keep, keep phone storage clean so that is my easy idea for you. 00:09:43:21 - 00:10:05:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry These transition style videos are really fun. They're really like, kind of a, fun thing to do with your students and also fun to edit. They're just goofy and they're funny, and, students love it. So I hope this is helpful to you. I hope this playlist was helpful to you. But as you're moving on and as you're beginning to implement this strategy, I just I wonder if you are thinking like, okay, that's great. 00:10:05:29 - 00:10:30:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now how do I get more people here to my events? Well, I talked about it earlier. Me and my friend Erik sat down and we talked through a two part episode. It's going to be linked right here. His video on his channel about how to program, an outreach event for your student ministry, and then this video right here on my channel, which is how you use social media to promote, that said event in your student ministry. 00:10:30:25 - 00:10:40:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You go check both of those videos. If you haven't yet, give him a subscribe and go follow his channel. But until next time. And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid. 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In this 4 part series playlist I will share with you 4 different types of video content for your church and your social media and how to start creating content with your students, teenagers, youth group and church attenders.

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00:00 Easy Social Media for Churches #4
03:38 Bonus Idea
05:09 My Social Calendar

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media idea with examples. Part four. This is

00:00:05:21 - 00:00:13:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
the fourth and final installment of the playlist that we are currently in. Here on YouTube. Giving you

00:00:13:04 - 00:00:20:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
as a youth pastor the four easiest idea with a bonus tip.

00:00:20:09 - 00:00:31:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, what we've been doing is we've been tracking through all of the different, social media, frameworks that I use in our student ministry that I have set students off to do.

00:00:31:08 - 00:00:44:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's the part that's easy. You know, these these games with these challenges, they may not be easy, but now that I have students owning it and that I have students running it, it is making my life and my job

00:00:44:11 - 00:00:52:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
as a youth pastor incredibly easy. And so the fourth and final idea, the fourth and final piece of this installment is

00:00:52:24 - 00:00:58:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
transition videos paired with cap cut style memes.

00:00:58:09 - 00:01:11:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now link right here. At the top of the video is a, episode I had with one of my friends, Erik with a K, and we talked about events and better event promotion, and I said, this is the only,

00:01:11:07 - 00:01:22:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
way really to do event promotion on social media, because when you think about event promotion, more often than not you are thinking about, posting a graphic and letting people know about your event.

00:01:22:15 - 00:01:35:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But those don't do very well on social for the, you know, and for the for the first and second part, people go on social media to be entertained, to laugh, to whatever. And so these transition style videos where it starts with the

00:01:35:00 - 00:01:41:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video of something else and the most popular one I can think about is like a, a bull, ramming a guy during the running of the bulls.

00:01:41:19 - 00:02:15:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then all these people cutting right there to jumping into the back of some chairs and jumping into the back of some furniture at your church and inviting people in your, following you on social media, whatever, inviting them to church. And so these style videos are, a great way to, again, just like the other three that we've been talking about, to send your students out to batch record to tell them, hey, when, you know, when I say, go do this, jump here, do this, this back flip, like, whatever, whatever the the video demands of it.

00:02:15:28 - 00:02:32:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And if you start looking for those videos on social media, you'll be able to find those videos on social media. And so, those transition style videos paired with cap cut style videos and so link down below, is a link that will take

00:02:32:04 - 00:02:35:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you to my six favorite of each of those styles,

00:02:35:09 - 00:02:42:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
six of my favorite cap cut meme style videos, and six of my favorite transition based style videos.

00:02:42:09 - 00:03:06:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I also want to let you know that if you hop, down in the link in the description, you will get all of my topic ideas and all of my other templates that I've been talking about and teasing through the first three videos of this playlist. And so if you take each of those two free downloadable links, and then you go and you start filming content not just for your students, but with your students, that's really like the differentiate.

00:03:06:25 - 00:03:07:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's really

00:03:07:17 - 00:03:32:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
what we're trying to encourage youth pastors and people in there. And people like running church social media to do film content with people, in your church film content, especially with your students, especially with the next generation. You do that for a while. Then you can begin to start to build up enough team, enough volunteer base to start handing some of these things off so that it's being done for you.

00:03:32:03 - 00:03:50:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And all you're doing then is worrying about your posting schedule. Now for the bonus tip. The bonus idea that I have is one of my all time favorite videos, and this one is, you can do it with students, or you can do it with yourself as a youth pastor. And I think that sometimes that makes the most sense.

00:03:50:21 - 00:04:09:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But, it's a framework. And I saw it somewhere, somehow on a social media platform. But you're scrolling through and immediately when you get there, the person's just pointing like this, right? And they're pointing to a text on screen that says stay or scroll. And then underneath it, it says, why? Says stay your scroll, read Scripture with me.

00:04:09:18 - 00:04:41:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then what you do is you read, portion of Scripture for 60s or less. And if you get done reading the scripture, you also, you also then just kind of give them like a little devotional idea, a little devotional thought on like, why you like the verse wise, challenging how it encourages people. And it's a really great way to integrate spiritual practice and spiritual content because like, think about you're physically reading scripture with, the people on your feed, the people that are following you.

00:04:41:13 - 00:05:07:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you think about the idea of hybrid taking your in-person and taking your digital and melding them together with the two, it's taking what you do in-person, which is teaching the Bible and sharing Jesus. And, you know, sharing his word and his truth and his gospel, and you're telling, and you're you're bringing that into the everyday moments in the everyday life components of your students and your followers on social media.

00:05:07:17 - 00:05:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's a fantastic,

00:05:09:20 - 00:05:25:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
devotional tool. Now, now that I have given you not only the four that you can do with your students, but that bonus tip of stay or scroll if you look here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I post two times per day. And so if every time you're with your students, you're having them batch record.

00:05:25:26 - 00:05:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if they're doing, night where they're, you know, capturing a bunch of โ€œDrafts,โ€ if they get 5 or 6, if you go to, you know, โ€œSeven Questions,โ€ they get 5 or 6 the next week. If they do โ€œMan on the Street,โ€ they do 5 or 6.

00:05:37:02 - 00:05:39:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if they do these transition style videos, they get 5 or 6.

00:05:39:28 - 00:05:42:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Cap cut memes you give a couple 5 or 6, whatever.

00:05:42:25 - 00:05:56:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you also, can sit down and do a bunch of these, โ€œStay or Scrollโ€ videos, get, you know, as many as you can in one sitting with, four staff members. I was able to get like, 20, a couple weeks back. So you can get them pretty quick.

00:05:56:14 - 00:06:12:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you. So you just start batch recording them. If you think about it, for me, I post five days a week because I work five days a week. I don't post on my days off. It's just like a margin thing. You could. It's not that big of a deal if you do. But, you know, I like to be off and be all the way off from work.

00:06:12:22 - 00:06:32:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I post, three message clips per week, and then I post one of these other five things that we've talked about one draft, one seven questions, one transition video, one man on the street, and then one stay or scroll. So you add all those together. That's eight I post five days a week, twice a day.

00:06:32:24 - 00:07:00:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That leaves me with two additional spots. One thing that I also do is and it's not video based, but I do a meme Monday. All right. I'm just as I'm scrolling social media, I ask other people in our team also, as they're scrolling social media to screenshot memes and put them in a meme folder. And so I have a meme folder with probably over 200 memes, and I just go in there and I just pick my favorite ones, download them, you know, move them to a new folder that says posted or archived or whatever.

00:07:00:24 - 00:07:19:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I don't, you know, use the same ones and consecutive weeks. And then I add so that fills in that additional spot there. And then the last spot is, when we meet on Wednesday nights, I walk around with my camera and I film little, snippets and little clips, and then I just bring that into cap cut.

00:07:19:11 - 00:07:32:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
No. So no cap. I bring them to TikTok, add all those clips, click a little button, they're called auto cut. And then, TikTok will create for me a little recap style video based on the clips that I have provided. And that's just like a recap video

00:07:32:12 - 00:07:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
of our Wednesday night programing. So you add all those together.

00:07:35:13 - 00:07:42:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The the four easy social media ideas run by my student ministry team who are both capturing it and now editing it, the

00:07:42:12 - 00:07:43:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
stay or scroll, which

00:07:43:11 - 00:07:47:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
they can also edit that one. It's a really easy one to edit. And then my three

00:07:47:05 - 00:07:48:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
message clips and then

00:07:48:23 - 00:07:52:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Meme Monday and then, the recap video, there's all

00:07:52:06 - 00:07:54:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
ten of my clips and then I interspersed throughout the week.

00:07:54:17 - 00:08:11:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I don't do it like, you know, Meme Monday, obviously I post on Monday, my message clips, I post about same days. I do a Thursday because we had just preached on on Wednesday. I do it on Sunday because that's the connect group topic for that day. And then I do it again on Tuesday as just a reminder like, hey, don't forget this what we had talked about.

00:08:11:20 - 00:08:32:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the following Thursday I post again the new one because we had a new message on any given Wednesday. But all those other ones, those stay or scroll draft, seven questions, man on the Street and transition videos. I move those all throughout my week like I have kind of my my standing pillars like every day. You know, like Sunday is a teaching, Monday is Meme Monday.

00:08:32:21 - 00:08:50:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Tuesday is another teaching clip. Wednesday is the recap, video and then Thursday is another teaching clip. So any of those five, I just sprinkle them throughout any of those other places. And so I try to post like one draft per week. I try to post like one seven questions per week. I try to post like one man on the street per week.

00:08:50:19 - 00:09:07:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if I've already posted one, then you know, on Sunday. Then when I get to Monday, I'm not going to do double duty and post another draft. I'll go get one of the other ones. And the beautiful thing is, I store all of that stuff in Google Drive, and I know I created just like an archive folder. And so when I've posted it, I move it into archive.

00:09:07:08 - 00:09:10:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so any of the ones that are an archive, I've already done, any

00:09:10:03 - 00:09:25:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
of the ones that are not in archive, I I know I'm free to post and then I post it and I move it to archive and that's it. I don't use a scheduling tool. I still post to Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube, and I do those all directly from my phone.

00:09:25:16 - 00:09:43:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I'll go on Google Drive on my phone, download the video, and then go post it in all three places. I may copy and paste the caption as I'm going and post it in all three places. And then and then I delete it off my phone, you know, to keep, keep phone storage clean so that is my easy idea for you.

00:09:43:21 - 00:10:05:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
These transition style videos are really fun. They're really like, kind of a, fun thing to do with your students and also fun to edit. They're just goofy and they're funny, and, students love it. So I hope this is helpful to you. I hope this playlist was helpful to you. But as you're moving on and as you're beginning to implement this strategy, I just I wonder if you are thinking like, okay, that's great.

00:10:05:29 - 00:10:30:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now how do I get more people here to my events? Well, I talked about it earlier. Me and my friend Erik sat down and we talked through a two part episode. It's going to be linked right here. His video on his channel about how to program, an outreach event for your student ministry, and then this video right here on my channel, which is how you use social media to promote, that said event in your student ministry.

00:10:30:25 - 00:10:40:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You go check both of those videos. If you haven't yet, give him a subscribe and go follow his channel. But until next time. And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid.

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00:00 Easy Social Media for Churches #4
03:38 Bonus Idea
05:09 My Social Calendar

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media idea with examples. Part four. This is

00:00:05:21 - 00:00:13:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
the fourth and final installment of the playlist that we are currently in. Here on YouTube. Giving you

00:00:13:04 - 00:00:20:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
as a youth pastor the four easiest idea with a bonus tip.

00:00:20:09 - 00:00:31:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, what we've been doing is we've been tracking through all of the different, social media, frameworks that I use in our student ministry that I have set students off to do.

00:00:31:08 - 00:00:44:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's the part that's easy. You know, these these games with these challenges, they may not be easy, but now that I have students owning it and that I have students running it, it is making my life and my job

00:00:44:11 - 00:00:52:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
as a youth pastor incredibly easy. And so the fourth and final idea, the fourth and final piece of this installment is

00:00:52:24 - 00:00:58:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
transition videos paired with cap cut style memes.

00:00:58:09 - 00:01:11:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now link right here. At the top of the video is a, episode I had with one of my friends, Erik with a K, and we talked about events and better event promotion, and I said, this is the only,

00:01:11:07 - 00:01:22:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
way really to do event promotion on social media, because when you think about event promotion, more often than not you are thinking about, posting a graphic and letting people know about your event.

00:01:22:15 - 00:01:35:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But those don't do very well on social for the, you know, and for the for the first and second part, people go on social media to be entertained, to laugh, to whatever. And so these transition style videos where it starts with the

00:01:35:00 - 00:01:41:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
video of something else and the most popular one I can think about is like a, a bull, ramming a guy during the running of the bulls.

00:01:41:19 - 00:02:15:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then all these people cutting right there to jumping into the back of some chairs and jumping into the back of some furniture at your church and inviting people in your, following you on social media, whatever, inviting them to church. And so these style videos are, a great way to, again, just like the other three that we've been talking about, to send your students out to batch record to tell them, hey, when, you know, when I say, go do this, jump here, do this, this back flip, like, whatever, whatever the the video demands of it.

00:02:15:28 - 00:02:32:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And if you start looking for those videos on social media, you'll be able to find those videos on social media. And so, those transition style videos paired with cap cut style videos and so link down below, is a link that will take

00:02:32:04 - 00:02:35:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you to my six favorite of each of those styles,

00:02:35:09 - 00:02:42:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
six of my favorite cap cut meme style videos, and six of my favorite transition based style videos.

00:02:42:09 - 00:03:06:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But I also want to let you know that if you hop, down in the link in the description, you will get all of my topic ideas and all of my other templates that I've been talking about and teasing through the first three videos of this playlist. And so if you take each of those two free downloadable links, and then you go and you start filming content not just for your students, but with your students, that's really like the differentiate.

00:03:06:25 - 00:03:07:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's really

00:03:07:17 - 00:03:32:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
what we're trying to encourage youth pastors and people in there. And people like running church social media to do film content with people, in your church film content, especially with your students, especially with the next generation. You do that for a while. Then you can begin to start to build up enough team, enough volunteer base to start handing some of these things off so that it's being done for you.

00:03:32:03 - 00:03:50:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And all you're doing then is worrying about your posting schedule. Now for the bonus tip. The bonus idea that I have is one of my all time favorite videos, and this one is, you can do it with students, or you can do it with yourself as a youth pastor. And I think that sometimes that makes the most sense.

00:03:50:21 - 00:04:09:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But, it's a framework. And I saw it somewhere, somehow on a social media platform. But you're scrolling through and immediately when you get there, the person's just pointing like this, right? And they're pointing to a text on screen that says stay or scroll. And then underneath it, it says, why? Says stay your scroll, read Scripture with me.

00:04:09:18 - 00:04:41:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then what you do is you read, portion of Scripture for 60s or less. And if you get done reading the scripture, you also, you also then just kind of give them like a little devotional idea, a little devotional thought on like, why you like the verse wise, challenging how it encourages people. And it's a really great way to integrate spiritual practice and spiritual content because like, think about you're physically reading scripture with, the people on your feed, the people that are following you.

00:04:41:13 - 00:05:07:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you think about the idea of hybrid taking your in-person and taking your digital and melding them together with the two, it's taking what you do in-person, which is teaching the Bible and sharing Jesus. And, you know, sharing his word and his truth and his gospel, and you're telling, and you're you're bringing that into the everyday moments in the everyday life components of your students and your followers on social media.

00:05:07:17 - 00:05:09:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's a fantastic,

00:05:09:20 - 00:05:25:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
devotional tool. Now, now that I have given you not only the four that you can do with your students, but that bonus tip of stay or scroll if you look here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube, I post two times per day. And so if every time you're with your students, you're having them batch record.

00:05:25:26 - 00:05:37:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if they're doing, night where they're, you know, capturing a bunch of โ€œDrafts,โ€ if they get 5 or 6, if you go to, you know, โ€œSeven Questions,โ€ they get 5 or 6 the next week. If they do โ€œMan on the Street,โ€ they do 5 or 6.

00:05:37:02 - 00:05:39:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then if they do these transition style videos, they get 5 or 6.

00:05:39:28 - 00:05:42:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Cap cut memes you give a couple 5 or 6, whatever.

00:05:42:25 - 00:05:56:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you also, can sit down and do a bunch of these, โ€œStay or Scrollโ€ videos, get, you know, as many as you can in one sitting with, four staff members. I was able to get like, 20, a couple weeks back. So you can get them pretty quick.

00:05:56:14 - 00:06:12:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And you. So you just start batch recording them. If you think about it, for me, I post five days a week because I work five days a week. I don't post on my days off. It's just like a margin thing. You could. It's not that big of a deal if you do. But, you know, I like to be off and be all the way off from work.

00:06:12:22 - 00:06:32:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so, I post, three message clips per week, and then I post one of these other five things that we've talked about one draft, one seven questions, one transition video, one man on the street, and then one stay or scroll. So you add all those together. That's eight I post five days a week, twice a day.

00:06:32:24 - 00:07:00:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That leaves me with two additional spots. One thing that I also do is and it's not video based, but I do a meme Monday. All right. I'm just as I'm scrolling social media, I ask other people in our team also, as they're scrolling social media to screenshot memes and put them in a meme folder. And so I have a meme folder with probably over 200 memes, and I just go in there and I just pick my favorite ones, download them, you know, move them to a new folder that says posted or archived or whatever.

00:07:00:24 - 00:07:19:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I don't, you know, use the same ones and consecutive weeks. And then I add so that fills in that additional spot there. And then the last spot is, when we meet on Wednesday nights, I walk around with my camera and I film little, snippets and little clips, and then I just bring that into cap cut.

00:07:19:11 - 00:07:32:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
No. So no cap. I bring them to TikTok, add all those clips, click a little button, they're called auto cut. And then, TikTok will create for me a little recap style video based on the clips that I have provided. And that's just like a recap video

00:07:32:12 - 00:07:35:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
of our Wednesday night programing. So you add all those together.

00:07:35:13 - 00:07:42:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The the four easy social media ideas run by my student ministry team who are both capturing it and now editing it, the

00:07:42:12 - 00:07:43:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
stay or scroll, which

00:07:43:11 - 00:07:47:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
they can also edit that one. It's a really easy one to edit. And then my three

00:07:47:05 - 00:07:48:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
message clips and then

00:07:48:23 - 00:07:52:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Meme Monday and then, the recap video, there's all

00:07:52:06 - 00:07:54:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
ten of my clips and then I interspersed throughout the week.

00:07:54:17 - 00:08:11:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I don't do it like, you know, Meme Monday, obviously I post on Monday, my message clips, I post about same days. I do a Thursday because we had just preached on on Wednesday. I do it on Sunday because that's the connect group topic for that day. And then I do it again on Tuesday as just a reminder like, hey, don't forget this what we had talked about.

00:08:11:20 - 00:08:32:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the following Thursday I post again the new one because we had a new message on any given Wednesday. But all those other ones, those stay or scroll draft, seven questions, man on the Street and transition videos. I move those all throughout my week like I have kind of my my standing pillars like every day. You know, like Sunday is a teaching, Monday is Meme Monday.

00:08:32:21 - 00:08:50:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Tuesday is another teaching clip. Wednesday is the recap, video and then Thursday is another teaching clip. So any of those five, I just sprinkle them throughout any of those other places. And so I try to post like one draft per week. I try to post like one seven questions per week. I try to post like one man on the street per week.

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And if I've already posted one, then you know, on Sunday. Then when I get to Monday, I'm not going to do double duty and post another draft. I'll go get one of the other ones. And the beautiful thing is, I store all of that stuff in Google Drive, and I know I created just like an archive folder. And so when I've posted it, I move it into archive.

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And so any of the ones that are an archive, I've already done, any

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of the ones that are not in archive, I I know I'm free to post and then I post it and I move it to archive and that's it. I don't use a scheduling tool. I still post to Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube, and I do those all directly from my phone.

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So I'll go on Google Drive on my phone, download the video, and then go post it in all three places. I may copy and paste the caption as I'm going and post it in all three places. And then and then I delete it off my phone, you know, to keep, keep phone storage clean so that is my easy idea for you.

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These transition style videos are really fun. They're really like, kind of a, fun thing to do with your students and also fun to edit. They're just goofy and they're funny, and, students love it. So I hope this is helpful to you. I hope this playlist was helpful to you. But as you're moving on and as you're beginning to implement this strategy, I just I wonder if you are thinking like, okay, that's great.

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Now how do I get more people here to my events? Well, I talked about it earlier. Me and my friend Erik sat down and we talked through a two part episode. It's going to be linked right here. His video on his channel about how to program, an outreach event for your student ministry, and then this video right here on my channel, which is how you use social media to promote, that said event in your student ministry.

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You go check both of those videos. If you haven't yet, give him a subscribe and go follow his channel. But until next time. And as always, don't forget my friends to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 118: How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 3 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/118 93f3a519-283f-4a83-95d4-31b9db8e2f0d Thu, 10 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 118 How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 3 full Nick Clason My New Favorites (And Easy Way) to create a lot of social media content for your church and youth ministry without losing your life to editing and capturing! In this 4 part series playlist I will share with you 4 different types of video content for your church and your social media and how to start creating content with your students, teenagers, youth group and church attenders. //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/118 14:02 no ๐Ÿ’ก100 Topics Ideas & Templates๐Ÿ’ก https://share.hsforms.com/1JOHqd4XOTbC5ZgfXB85BCwnumis ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ========= DESCRIPTION My New Favorites (And Easy Way) to create a lot of social media content for your church and youth ministry without losing your life to editing and capturing! 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Part three. In 00:00:06:11 - 00:00:15:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this video, I'm going to share with you one of, if not the easiest way to start creating custom social media content for you and your 00:00:15:06 - 00:00:23:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry church, in your youth ministry, with you, with your leaders, with your students. This is a continuation of the video playlist which is linked right 00:00:23:01 - 00:00:23:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry here. 00:00:23:10 - 00:00:27:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is part three out of four of what I do in my four 00:00:27:20 - 00:00:31:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry part social media strategy. For me and my churches. 00:00:31:08 - 00:00:37:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and this is easily the best 00:00:37:02 - 00:00:55:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry strategy and the one that we have seen the most traction with not only creating good custom social media content for our church and our student ministry, but also with adding people to our social media team so that I have less on my plate as a youth pastor to do, and there's more ministry being passed off and handed off to our students. 00:00:55:27 - 00:01:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'm also going to share with you in this video my three part proven three C formula for adding student volunteers to our social media team. And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget that there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can go ahead and skip around. But my social challenge idea number three is called man on the Street. 00:01:17:21 - 00:01:41:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now you don't have to call it man on the street, but essentially you've seen these style videos. It's interview style videos where you have someone walking around with a microphone and they're interviewing someone and asking them any sort of question and the comedy in it, or the interesting part in it is really just in the person's answers and or in the interaction or in the banter that may or may or may not go on between the two people. 00:01:41:11 - 00:01:46:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One of the wins that we've seen, how we do it in our student ministry, is we create 4 00:01:46:03 - 00:01:58:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to 5 questions for any given night, in any given like season. So for example, a couple months back it was back to school. So we did a bunch of back to school sort of themed questions like, what's the worst cafeteria food you've ever had? 00:01:58:26 - 00:02:06:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What's the worst lunch food you've ever eaten? What's the what's your like number one thing on your back to school shopping list? And we ask 00:02:06:18 - 00:02:11:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry all five questions to like as many people in that night as we can three, four, 00:02:11:22 - 00:02:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry five, six, seven interviews. And then what you do is you just take one of those questions and you spice up all the answers. 00:02:17:27 - 00:02:33:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You may include them all. You may choose to leave some out if they're not as interesting or as good. And then you can also create like, just some interesting things in the edit. The power I believe on this is the power is done in the edit. And I have 00:02:33:07 - 00:02:37:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry found that this video in particular is one that students really enjoy editing. 00:02:37:20 - 00:02:53:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now it is a little bit more complicated because, if you're doing it in something like Adobe Premiere Pro, you may just end up with a lot of different layers. And if you're not a skilled editor or if you don't have experience in editing something like this, you may just get turned around. So this one is tougher to hand off to volunteers. 00:02:53:22 - 00:03:04:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which is why in the last video, my seven questions video, is where I want to encourage students to start that one seems like, easy first kind of starting spot, but this one students can really let their creativity 00:03:04:24 - 00:03:15:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry run wild. And so what we do is we just do like five different questions seasonally based. And so as this video drops mid-October, you might do some Halloween, you might do some Thanksgiving videos. 00:03:15:22 - 00:03:16:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you might 00:03:16:21 - 00:03:39:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry do like what are what is the best Halloween candy? What is the worst Halloween? Cat candy or, like, thing you've ever gotten in your bucket as you've gone trick or treating? What is your, least favorite Thanksgiving food? You get to the Thanksgiving table and you see it on the table and you're like, oh man, I can't believe that that is being served right now. 00:03:39:04 - 00:03:46:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What are you going to be asking for for Christmas? And then what is the worst road trip you've ever taken around Christmas or 00:03:46:24 - 00:03:55:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry something like that? Right. There's five questions you ask all five of those, and then you ask as many people as you can. You can do this with the gear list link 00:03:55:17 - 00:03:57:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry down below in the template. 00:03:57:22 - 00:03:58:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's the one that's 00:03:58:16 - 00:04:13:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry been included in all of these videos. It's got my Photoshop template for the last two videos. It's got gear recommendations, it's got topic recommendations. And you can take those topics and you can use them for seven questions. You can take them and use them for drafts, or you can take them and curate and curtail them to be working for you. 00:04:13:23 - 00:04:35:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this man on the street style video. Now, go ahead and give me a like if this video so far has provided value and go ahead and give me a subscribe if this is something that you might think that you might start implementing in your student ministry. But like I said, the power is in the edit. So the more like gifts, B-roll or sound effects that you can create as people are giving answers, you can zoom 00:04:35:02 - 00:04:37:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in, you can zoom out, you can do like, 00:04:37:12 - 00:04:39:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry like one of my favorite resources. 00:04:39:25 - 00:05:01:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'll link it down below in the description is Giphy g I p h y.com and we can search GIFs there. And I've just sent students there and they will find GIFs, to kind of add on screen as people are giving answers and sometimes so much so that there's like so many GIFs on the screen that we don't even see the people, like answering the questions. 00:05:01:10 - 00:05:17:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But this is, again, this is a great way for students to kind of let their creativity run wild. Now, here's the other thing that man on the street does. So if you're watching our last two videos, we talked about drafts and we talked about seven questions. Those are stationary videos. Those often they take place for us in our studio. 00:05:17:28 - 00:05:38:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you haven't seen our studio tour, go ahead, check out the link down below for that. But those happen in our studio. Those happen in a different section of the building. The good news about men on the street style videos is it forces us to get out of our studio, and it forces us to go be on the streets, go be all throughout the different spaces of our youth ministry. 00:05:38:19 - 00:06:06:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we have an outdoor sports basketball court, so they may be out there. We have an indoor rec room. They may be in there. We have a cafe, they may be in there in the lobby or whatever. And so, they're much more visible. And here's the good news about the visibility once they're visible and once they're doing it, we start to see a, a drastic uptick in people, and their interest level in joining our social media team. 00:06:06:08 - 00:06:27:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're like, hey, can I do this? Can I help, can I join? And so one of the markers, one of the values in, for us and for our student ministry, you know, the apostle Paul says, you shouldn't be a youth pastor. You shouldn't be the only one doing ministry. You should be handing the work of ministry off to equip the saints for works and acts of service. 00:06:27:26 - 00:06:28:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so 00:06:28:06 - 00:06:47:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that's our goal, not only just with the dots, but also with students as well. And so that needs to be our goal. That needs to be what we are aiming to do. And so, as we are growing and building these teams, less and less falls on your plate. You have to create the structure and the scaffolding, and you have to keep that train kind of moving down the tracks. 00:06:47:22 - 00:06:49:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But ultimately you can hand 00:06:49:11 - 00:07:07:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry some of these things off. And this area in particular, a student ministry is something that students actually are interested in doing. No shade, no offense to get services and holding doors open and greeting people, but students love the opportunity. Or at least in general, students love the opportunity to get on camera, be on camera, or run the camera. 00:07:07:29 - 00:07:33:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So with all that being said, here is my proven three C strategy for building a good student volunteer team. The first C is calendar. Actually calendar it out. And what I mean by that, I just use an Excel template and I, you know, have like week one, week two, week three, week four. Now most students get turned around by what any of that means. 00:07:33:14 - 00:07:48:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What is week one was week two, you know. So if you have typically any given like let's say your youth night is Wednesday night, any given month you have four Wednesdays in the month, but occasionally you'll have a fifth. And the fifth is what throws everybody off. Because 00:07:48:05 - 00:07:52:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry if you schedule people once a month, they think they serve every four. 00:07:52:09 - 00:08:12:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if there's a fifth actually is every five, or if they serve every other week, then they may serve every other week. But you throw a fifth in there. And now that messes up when they're landing. And so for clarity, I like to just call it, if you're doing, you know, every other, first and third, second and fourth. 00:08:12:13 - 00:08:26:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. And then you got figure out where your fifths are. So I like to do first, third and fifth. Okay. And I'll just explain to them, hey, if you're a fifth that means you'll do a first, a third, a fifth that'll feel like every other. But then when it rolls back around to the first, you're actually going to do two weeks in a row. 00:08:26:22 - 00:08:42:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Just brace for that. Just understand that, okay. And then like okay, they get it in theory. All right. I've even literally pulled up my Google calendar and I've showed them like this when it says August 7th. That's week one when it says August 14th, that's week two and it says 21st. That's week three, which is 28. That's week four. 00:08:42:03 - 00:09:00:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we we go to September. And I'm like, now you try it in September. Which one are the weeks you're serving if you're on week one and three for example. And like once they get that understanding it makes sense. Also, I can recommend some sort of scheduling feature, you know, for my tech team, I use planning center services for the rest of our team. 00:09:00:14 - 00:09:30:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We use Church Community Builder, which is our church's database. Whatever you use, whatever you have, if you can send some sort of invitation for them to serve, that would be great. But that leads me to my second see in my building a strong volunteer team is contact. How are you going to contact them? See, here's what happens. A lot of times in churches is especially when serving with students, we want students to serve even in our greater teams on our church, like our tech team or worship team or our greeting team. 00:09:30:23 - 00:09:54:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But we treat them once again, those teams like adults, and we should and we should start working them towards that. However, in most cases when you're scheduling adults, you're scheduling them through email. Most students do. They have an email. It's not a regular discipline of them checking it very often, if at all. And so in Planning Center and it also church community builder, both of them have integration for text messages. 00:09:54:05 - 00:10:11:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And most students are receiving text messages at this point. And then if students are not, we have to get to their parents. Right? And we say, okay, well, you have a phone, so I'm going to send this to your parents and you're going to get notified via your parents mobile. Whatever. Now, I handle that on an individual basis with every single student. 00:10:11:25 - 00:10:31:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's much more than just fill out this form, I'll put you on and I'll show you like I have that conversation. Let them know your first and third, and then I'll. I get from them what I need in order to contact them effectively and in my mind to contact every student effectively, I need to text them. And in both cases, both planning center and church community builder. 00:10:31:03 - 00:10:49:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I need to know their cell phone carrier. It's a weird question. Most students know the answer to it. It's like, is it AT&T? Is it Verizon? Is it T-Mobile? Once I put that in, I'm able to schedule them and they're able to get text message notifications for when they're scheduled. And then the last piece of it, the third key is conflicts. 00:10:49:25 - 00:11:07:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What do you do when you can't come to church. Set the expectation now. So I say your schedule first and third I'm going to text you. You're going to get a notification. Either accept it or decline it. Coach them up, train them how you want them to do that, and then say, if you can't make it, I need you to find yourself a sub. 00:11:07:04 - 00:11:28:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's how I prefer to do it. You don't have to do it. That way. If you want them to tell you about conflicts and decline and you go find their sub, that's fine. It just adds work back straight to your play as opposed to them finding a sub on their own and then letting you know, hey, I'm not going to be there and I got so-and-so to fill in for me, then all your bases are covered. 00:11:28:26 - 00:11:42:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when you're building a social media team, you kind of have two prongs to it. You have your capturing or your filming of it, and then you also have your editing of it. And so you can truly have like an infinite number of volunteers 00:11:42:19 - 00:11:47:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry we've found for like, seven questions, just our videos. It's good to have a camera operator. 00:11:47:22 - 00:12:12:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If we're doing separate microphones, it's good to have a microphone operator. We've also found it's good to have like a director, someone who's telling the people on, the talent, so to speak, what they're doing. We've even found it's good to have, TV, off, off camera that the people. So if I'm on camera playing the game, there's a TV right over there, and it's keeping track of the number of questions is even got the scripts like on a slide for them. 00:12:12:08 - 00:12:28:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it's good to have a person running that. And then the last, like I said, we're in a studio. And so there are people in the hallway kind of waiting. It's good to have a host, a person out in the hallway, a person making sure that they're quiet so that when you're filming, you're not getting like the audio bleed over or whatever. 00:12:28:11 - 00:12:46:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can have up to five people on that week. All right. And then if you have five people that week and say five people on the week that you do drafts and you might not need as many when you're doing man on the Street or the other video that we're going to look at in my fourth and final installment of, church social media that is done easy for you. 00:12:46:21 - 00:13:05:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But you can theoretically see how you can get to ten, 12, 15 different people. And then you add editors on top of that. When are they coming into the office? Do they have the gear at home? Can they edit it on something like cap cut on their app, on their phone, and then deliver that content back to you so that you can post it? 00:13:05:18 - 00:13:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or can you even have them just in charge of the posting calendar and the posting schedule, and you can just hand those things off to it. So again, the point is the sky's the limit if you only have 2 or 3 students who are on your team, you just have them work every week, right? Or you do these every other week and that's when they serve. 00:13:21:14 - 00:13:38:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the athletes that you don't have anything for social media. But as you're building your team, you need to work through that three see framework, the calendar. How are you going to communicate it? Where are you going to print it? Where are they going to see it? How are you going to handle first, third, fifth Sundays? How are you going to contact them and how are you going to handle conflicts? 00:13:38:11 - 00:13:58:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now moving on to our fourth and final video in this playlist. In this strategy, we are going to link it right here on screen. So you can go ahead and take a look at that fourth and final easy social media idea for churches and for youth ministries. 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01:41 How to Play
05:59 How to Add more Volunteers
07:10 1C
09:11 2C
10:45 3C
13:39 Easy Social Media Idea #4

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media idea for

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churches and youth ministries. Part three. In

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this video, I'm going to share with you one of, if not the easiest way to start creating custom social media content for you and your

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
church, in your youth ministry, with you, with your leaders, with your students. This is a continuation of the video playlist which is linked right

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
here.

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This is part three out of four of what I do in my four

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part social media strategy. For me and my churches.

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You know, I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and this is easily the best

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strategy and the one that we have seen the most traction with not only creating good custom social media content for our church and our student ministry, but also with adding people to our social media team so that I have less on my plate as a youth pastor to do, and there's more ministry being passed off and handed off to our students.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I'm also going to share with you in this video my three part proven three C formula for adding student volunteers to our social media team. And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget that there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can go ahead and skip around. But my social challenge idea number three is called man on the Street.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now you don't have to call it man on the street, but essentially you've seen these style videos. It's interview style videos where you have someone walking around with a microphone and they're interviewing someone and asking them any sort of question and the comedy in it, or the interesting part in it is really just in the person's answers and or in the interaction or in the banter that may or may or may not go on between the two people.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One of the wins that we've seen, how we do it in our student ministry, is we create 4

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to 5 questions for any given night, in any given like season. So for example, a couple months back it was back to school. So we did a bunch of back to school sort of themed questions like, what's the worst cafeteria food you've ever had?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What's the worst lunch food you've ever eaten? What's the what's your like number one thing on your back to school shopping list? And we ask

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
all five questions to like as many people in that night as we can three, four,

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five, six, seven interviews. And then what you do is you just take one of those questions and you spice up all the answers.

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You may include them all. You may choose to leave some out if they're not as interesting or as good. And then you can also create like, just some interesting things in the edit. The power I believe on this is the power is done in the edit. And I have

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found that this video in particular is one that students really enjoy editing.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now it is a little bit more complicated because, if you're doing it in something like Adobe Premiere Pro, you may just end up with a lot of different layers. And if you're not a skilled editor or if you don't have experience in editing something like this, you may just get turned around. So this one is tougher to hand off to volunteers.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which is why in the last video, my seven questions video, is where I want to encourage students to start that one seems like, easy first kind of starting spot, but this one students can really let their creativity

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run wild. And so what we do is we just do like five different questions seasonally based. And so as this video drops mid-October, you might do some Halloween, you might do some Thanksgiving videos.

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And so you might

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do like what are what is the best Halloween candy? What is the worst Halloween? Cat candy or, like, thing you've ever gotten in your bucket as you've gone trick or treating? What is your, least favorite Thanksgiving food? You get to the Thanksgiving table and you see it on the table and you're like, oh man, I can't believe that that is being served right now.

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What are you going to be asking for for Christmas? And then what is the worst road trip you've ever taken around Christmas or

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something like that? Right. There's five questions you ask all five of those, and then you ask as many people as you can. You can do this with the gear list link

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down below in the template.

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It's the one that's

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been included in all of these videos. It's got my Photoshop template for the last two videos. It's got gear recommendations, it's got topic recommendations. And you can take those topics and you can use them for seven questions. You can take them and use them for drafts, or you can take them and curate and curtail them to be working for you.

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And this man on the street style video. Now, go ahead and give me a like if this video so far has provided value and go ahead and give me a subscribe if this is something that you might think that you might start implementing in your student ministry. But like I said, the power is in the edit. So the more like gifts, B-roll or sound effects that you can create as people are giving answers, you can zoom

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in, you can zoom out, you can do like,

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like one of my favorite resources.

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And I'll link it down below in the description is Giphy g I p h y.com and we can search GIFs there. And I've just sent students there and they will find GIFs, to kind of add on screen as people are giving answers and sometimes so much so that there's like so many GIFs on the screen that we don't even see the people, like answering the questions.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this is, again, this is a great way for students to kind of let their creativity run wild. Now, here's the other thing that man on the street does. So if you're watching our last two videos, we talked about drafts and we talked about seven questions. Those are stationary videos. Those often they take place for us in our studio.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you haven't seen our studio tour, go ahead, check out the link down below for that. But those happen in our studio. Those happen in a different section of the building. The good news about men on the street style videos is it forces us to get out of our studio, and it forces us to go be on the streets, go be all throughout the different spaces of our youth ministry.

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So we have an outdoor sports basketball court, so they may be out there. We have an indoor rec room. They may be in there. We have a cafe, they may be in there in the lobby or whatever. And so, they're much more visible. And here's the good news about the visibility once they're visible and once they're doing it, we start to see a, a drastic uptick in people, and their interest level in joining our social media team.

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They're like, hey, can I do this? Can I help, can I join? And so one of the markers, one of the values in, for us and for our student ministry, you know, the apostle Paul says, you shouldn't be a youth pastor. You shouldn't be the only one doing ministry. You should be handing the work of ministry off to equip the saints for works and acts of service.

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And so

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that's our goal, not only just with the dots, but also with students as well. And so that needs to be our goal. That needs to be what we are aiming to do. And so, as we are growing and building these teams, less and less falls on your plate. You have to create the structure and the scaffolding, and you have to keep that train kind of moving down the tracks.

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But ultimately you can hand

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some of these things off. And this area in particular, a student ministry is something that students actually are interested in doing. No shade, no offense to get services and holding doors open and greeting people, but students love the opportunity. Or at least in general, students love the opportunity to get on camera, be on camera, or run the camera.

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So with all that being said, here is my proven three C strategy for building a good student volunteer team. The first C is calendar. Actually calendar it out. And what I mean by that, I just use an Excel template and I, you know, have like week one, week two, week three, week four. Now most students get turned around by what any of that means.

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What is week one was week two, you know. So if you have typically any given like let's say your youth night is Wednesday night, any given month you have four Wednesdays in the month, but occasionally you'll have a fifth. And the fifth is what throws everybody off. Because

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if you schedule people once a month, they think they serve every four.

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But if there's a fifth actually is every five, or if they serve every other week, then they may serve every other week. But you throw a fifth in there. And now that messes up when they're landing. And so for clarity, I like to just call it, if you're doing, you know, every other, first and third, second and fourth.

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All right. And then you got figure out where your fifths are. So I like to do first, third and fifth. Okay. And I'll just explain to them, hey, if you're a fifth that means you'll do a first, a third, a fifth that'll feel like every other. But then when it rolls back around to the first, you're actually going to do two weeks in a row.

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Just brace for that. Just understand that, okay. And then like okay, they get it in theory. All right. I've even literally pulled up my Google calendar and I've showed them like this when it says August 7th. That's week one when it says August 14th, that's week two and it says 21st. That's week three, which is 28. That's week four.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then we we go to September. And I'm like, now you try it in September. Which one are the weeks you're serving if you're on week one and three for example. And like once they get that understanding it makes sense. Also, I can recommend some sort of scheduling feature, you know, for my tech team, I use planning center services for the rest of our team.

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We use Church Community Builder, which is our church's database. Whatever you use, whatever you have, if you can send some sort of invitation for them to serve, that would be great. But that leads me to my second see in my building a strong volunteer team is contact. How are you going to contact them? See, here's what happens. A lot of times in churches is especially when serving with students, we want students to serve even in our greater teams on our church, like our tech team or worship team or our greeting team.

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But we treat them once again, those teams like adults, and we should and we should start working them towards that. However, in most cases when you're scheduling adults, you're scheduling them through email. Most students do. They have an email. It's not a regular discipline of them checking it very often, if at all. And so in Planning Center and it also church community builder, both of them have integration for text messages.

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And most students are receiving text messages at this point. And then if students are not, we have to get to their parents. Right? And we say, okay, well, you have a phone, so I'm going to send this to your parents and you're going to get notified via your parents mobile. Whatever. Now, I handle that on an individual basis with every single student.

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It's much more than just fill out this form, I'll put you on and I'll show you like I have that conversation. Let them know your first and third, and then I'll. I get from them what I need in order to contact them effectively and in my mind to contact every student effectively, I need to text them. And in both cases, both planning center and church community builder.

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I need to know their cell phone carrier. It's a weird question. Most students know the answer to it. It's like, is it AT&T? Is it Verizon? Is it T-Mobile? Once I put that in, I'm able to schedule them and they're able to get text message notifications for when they're scheduled. And then the last piece of it, the third key is conflicts.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What do you do when you can't come to church. Set the expectation now. So I say your schedule first and third I'm going to text you. You're going to get a notification. Either accept it or decline it. Coach them up, train them how you want them to do that, and then say, if you can't make it, I need you to find yourself a sub.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That's how I prefer to do it. You don't have to do it. That way. If you want them to tell you about conflicts and decline and you go find their sub, that's fine. It just adds work back straight to your play as opposed to them finding a sub on their own and then letting you know, hey, I'm not going to be there and I got so-and-so to fill in for me, then all your bases are covered.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when you're building a social media team, you kind of have two prongs to it. You have your capturing or your filming of it, and then you also have your editing of it. And so you can truly have like an infinite number of volunteers

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we've found for like, seven questions, just our videos. It's good to have a camera operator.

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If we're doing separate microphones, it's good to have a microphone operator. We've also found it's good to have like a director, someone who's telling the people on, the talent, so to speak, what they're doing. We've even found it's good to have, TV, off, off camera that the people. So if I'm on camera playing the game, there's a TV right over there, and it's keeping track of the number of questions is even got the scripts like on a slide for them.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's good to have a person running that. And then the last, like I said, we're in a studio. And so there are people in the hallway kind of waiting. It's good to have a host, a person out in the hallway, a person making sure that they're quiet so that when you're filming, you're not getting like the audio bleed over or whatever.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can have up to five people on that week. All right. And then if you have five people that week and say five people on the week that you do drafts and you might not need as many when you're doing man on the Street or the other video that we're going to look at in my fourth and final installment of, church social media that is done easy for you.

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But you can theoretically see how you can get to ten, 12, 15 different people. And then you add editors on top of that. When are they coming into the office? Do they have the gear at home? Can they edit it on something like cap cut on their app, on their phone, and then deliver that content back to you so that you can post it?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or can you even have them just in charge of the posting calendar and the posting schedule, and you can just hand those things off to it. So again, the point is the sky's the limit if you only have 2 or 3 students who are on your team, you just have them work every week, right? Or you do these every other week and that's when they serve.

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And then the athletes that you don't have anything for social media. But as you're building your team, you need to work through that three see framework, the calendar. How are you going to communicate it? Where are you going to print it? Where are they going to see it? How are you going to handle first, third, fifth Sundays? How are you going to contact them and how are you going to handle conflicts?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now moving on to our fourth and final video in this playlist. In this strategy, we are going to link it right here on screen. So you can go ahead and take a look at that fourth and final easy social media idea for churches and for youth ministries. Don't forget, we had the Hybrid Ministry show are trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

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00:00 Easy Social Media for Churches #3
01:41 How to Play
05:59 How to Add more Volunteers
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13:39 Easy Social Media Idea #4

TRANSCRIPT
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media idea for

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churches and youth ministries. Part three. In

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
this video, I'm going to share with you one of, if not the easiest way to start creating custom social media content for you and your

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
church, in your youth ministry, with you, with your leaders, with your students. This is a continuation of the video playlist which is linked right

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here.

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This is part three out of four of what I do in my four

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part social media strategy. For me and my churches.

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You know, I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and this is easily the best

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strategy and the one that we have seen the most traction with not only creating good custom social media content for our church and our student ministry, but also with adding people to our social media team so that I have less on my plate as a youth pastor to do, and there's more ministry being passed off and handed off to our students.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I'm also going to share with you in this video my three part proven three C formula for adding student volunteers to our social media team. And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget that there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can go ahead and skip around. But my social challenge idea number three is called man on the Street.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now you don't have to call it man on the street, but essentially you've seen these style videos. It's interview style videos where you have someone walking around with a microphone and they're interviewing someone and asking them any sort of question and the comedy in it, or the interesting part in it is really just in the person's answers and or in the interaction or in the banter that may or may or may not go on between the two people.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
One of the wins that we've seen, how we do it in our student ministry, is we create 4

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
to 5 questions for any given night, in any given like season. So for example, a couple months back it was back to school. So we did a bunch of back to school sort of themed questions like, what's the worst cafeteria food you've ever had?

00:01:58:26 - 00:02:06:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What's the worst lunch food you've ever eaten? What's the what's your like number one thing on your back to school shopping list? And we ask

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
all five questions to like as many people in that night as we can three, four,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
five, six, seven interviews. And then what you do is you just take one of those questions and you spice up all the answers.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You may include them all. You may choose to leave some out if they're not as interesting or as good. And then you can also create like, just some interesting things in the edit. The power I believe on this is the power is done in the edit. And I have

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
found that this video in particular is one that students really enjoy editing.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now it is a little bit more complicated because, if you're doing it in something like Adobe Premiere Pro, you may just end up with a lot of different layers. And if you're not a skilled editor or if you don't have experience in editing something like this, you may just get turned around. So this one is tougher to hand off to volunteers.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Which is why in the last video, my seven questions video, is where I want to encourage students to start that one seems like, easy first kind of starting spot, but this one students can really let their creativity

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
run wild. And so what we do is we just do like five different questions seasonally based. And so as this video drops mid-October, you might do some Halloween, you might do some Thanksgiving videos.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you might

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do like what are what is the best Halloween candy? What is the worst Halloween? Cat candy or, like, thing you've ever gotten in your bucket as you've gone trick or treating? What is your, least favorite Thanksgiving food? You get to the Thanksgiving table and you see it on the table and you're like, oh man, I can't believe that that is being served right now.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What are you going to be asking for for Christmas? And then what is the worst road trip you've ever taken around Christmas or

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
something like that? Right. There's five questions you ask all five of those, and then you ask as many people as you can. You can do this with the gear list link

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
down below in the template.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
It's the one that's

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been included in all of these videos. It's got my Photoshop template for the last two videos. It's got gear recommendations, it's got topic recommendations. And you can take those topics and you can use them for seven questions. You can take them and use them for drafts, or you can take them and curate and curtail them to be working for you.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And this man on the street style video. Now, go ahead and give me a like if this video so far has provided value and go ahead and give me a subscribe if this is something that you might think that you might start implementing in your student ministry. But like I said, the power is in the edit. So the more like gifts, B-roll or sound effects that you can create as people are giving answers, you can zoom

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
in, you can zoom out, you can do like,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
like one of my favorite resources.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I'll link it down below in the description is Giphy g I p h y.com and we can search GIFs there. And I've just sent students there and they will find GIFs, to kind of add on screen as people are giving answers and sometimes so much so that there's like so many GIFs on the screen that we don't even see the people, like answering the questions.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this is, again, this is a great way for students to kind of let their creativity run wild. Now, here's the other thing that man on the street does. So if you're watching our last two videos, we talked about drafts and we talked about seven questions. Those are stationary videos. Those often they take place for us in our studio.

00:05:17:28 - 00:05:38:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you haven't seen our studio tour, go ahead, check out the link down below for that. But those happen in our studio. Those happen in a different section of the building. The good news about men on the street style videos is it forces us to get out of our studio, and it forces us to go be on the streets, go be all throughout the different spaces of our youth ministry.

00:05:38:19 - 00:06:06:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So we have an outdoor sports basketball court, so they may be out there. We have an indoor rec room. They may be in there. We have a cafe, they may be in there in the lobby or whatever. And so, they're much more visible. And here's the good news about the visibility once they're visible and once they're doing it, we start to see a, a drastic uptick in people, and their interest level in joining our social media team.

00:06:06:08 - 00:06:27:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're like, hey, can I do this? Can I help, can I join? And so one of the markers, one of the values in, for us and for our student ministry, you know, the apostle Paul says, you shouldn't be a youth pastor. You shouldn't be the only one doing ministry. You should be handing the work of ministry off to equip the saints for works and acts of service.

00:06:27:26 - 00:06:28:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so

00:06:28:06 - 00:06:47:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
that's our goal, not only just with the dots, but also with students as well. And so that needs to be our goal. That needs to be what we are aiming to do. And so, as we are growing and building these teams, less and less falls on your plate. You have to create the structure and the scaffolding, and you have to keep that train kind of moving down the tracks.

00:06:47:22 - 00:06:49:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But ultimately you can hand

00:06:49:11 - 00:07:07:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
some of these things off. And this area in particular, a student ministry is something that students actually are interested in doing. No shade, no offense to get services and holding doors open and greeting people, but students love the opportunity. Or at least in general, students love the opportunity to get on camera, be on camera, or run the camera.

00:07:07:29 - 00:07:33:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So with all that being said, here is my proven three C strategy for building a good student volunteer team. The first C is calendar. Actually calendar it out. And what I mean by that, I just use an Excel template and I, you know, have like week one, week two, week three, week four. Now most students get turned around by what any of that means.

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What is week one was week two, you know. So if you have typically any given like let's say your youth night is Wednesday night, any given month you have four Wednesdays in the month, but occasionally you'll have a fifth. And the fifth is what throws everybody off. Because

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if you schedule people once a month, they think they serve every four.

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But if there's a fifth actually is every five, or if they serve every other week, then they may serve every other week. But you throw a fifth in there. And now that messes up when they're landing. And so for clarity, I like to just call it, if you're doing, you know, every other, first and third, second and fourth.

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All right. And then you got figure out where your fifths are. So I like to do first, third and fifth. Okay. And I'll just explain to them, hey, if you're a fifth that means you'll do a first, a third, a fifth that'll feel like every other. But then when it rolls back around to the first, you're actually going to do two weeks in a row.

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Just brace for that. Just understand that, okay. And then like okay, they get it in theory. All right. I've even literally pulled up my Google calendar and I've showed them like this when it says August 7th. That's week one when it says August 14th, that's week two and it says 21st. That's week three, which is 28. That's week four.

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And then we we go to September. And I'm like, now you try it in September. Which one are the weeks you're serving if you're on week one and three for example. And like once they get that understanding it makes sense. Also, I can recommend some sort of scheduling feature, you know, for my tech team, I use planning center services for the rest of our team.

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We use Church Community Builder, which is our church's database. Whatever you use, whatever you have, if you can send some sort of invitation for them to serve, that would be great. But that leads me to my second see in my building a strong volunteer team is contact. How are you going to contact them? See, here's what happens. A lot of times in churches is especially when serving with students, we want students to serve even in our greater teams on our church, like our tech team or worship team or our greeting team.

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But we treat them once again, those teams like adults, and we should and we should start working them towards that. However, in most cases when you're scheduling adults, you're scheduling them through email. Most students do. They have an email. It's not a regular discipline of them checking it very often, if at all. And so in Planning Center and it also church community builder, both of them have integration for text messages.

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And most students are receiving text messages at this point. And then if students are not, we have to get to their parents. Right? And we say, okay, well, you have a phone, so I'm going to send this to your parents and you're going to get notified via your parents mobile. Whatever. Now, I handle that on an individual basis with every single student.

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It's much more than just fill out this form, I'll put you on and I'll show you like I have that conversation. Let them know your first and third, and then I'll. I get from them what I need in order to contact them effectively and in my mind to contact every student effectively, I need to text them. And in both cases, both planning center and church community builder.

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I need to know their cell phone carrier. It's a weird question. Most students know the answer to it. It's like, is it AT&T? Is it Verizon? Is it T-Mobile? Once I put that in, I'm able to schedule them and they're able to get text message notifications for when they're scheduled. And then the last piece of it, the third key is conflicts.

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What do you do when you can't come to church. Set the expectation now. So I say your schedule first and third I'm going to text you. You're going to get a notification. Either accept it or decline it. Coach them up, train them how you want them to do that, and then say, if you can't make it, I need you to find yourself a sub.

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That's how I prefer to do it. You don't have to do it. That way. If you want them to tell you about conflicts and decline and you go find their sub, that's fine. It just adds work back straight to your play as opposed to them finding a sub on their own and then letting you know, hey, I'm not going to be there and I got so-and-so to fill in for me, then all your bases are covered.

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And so when you're building a social media team, you kind of have two prongs to it. You have your capturing or your filming of it, and then you also have your editing of it. And so you can truly have like an infinite number of volunteers

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we've found for like, seven questions, just our videos. It's good to have a camera operator.

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If we're doing separate microphones, it's good to have a microphone operator. We've also found it's good to have like a director, someone who's telling the people on, the talent, so to speak, what they're doing. We've even found it's good to have, TV, off, off camera that the people. So if I'm on camera playing the game, there's a TV right over there, and it's keeping track of the number of questions is even got the scripts like on a slide for them.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So it's good to have a person running that. And then the last, like I said, we're in a studio. And so there are people in the hallway kind of waiting. It's good to have a host, a person out in the hallway, a person making sure that they're quiet so that when you're filming, you're not getting like the audio bleed over or whatever.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So you can have up to five people on that week. All right. And then if you have five people that week and say five people on the week that you do drafts and you might not need as many when you're doing man on the Street or the other video that we're going to look at in my fourth and final installment of, church social media that is done easy for you.

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But you can theoretically see how you can get to ten, 12, 15 different people. And then you add editors on top of that. When are they coming into the office? Do they have the gear at home? Can they edit it on something like cap cut on their app, on their phone, and then deliver that content back to you so that you can post it?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or can you even have them just in charge of the posting calendar and the posting schedule, and you can just hand those things off to it. So again, the point is the sky's the limit if you only have 2 or 3 students who are on your team, you just have them work every week, right? Or you do these every other week and that's when they serve.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the athletes that you don't have anything for social media. But as you're building your team, you need to work through that three see framework, the calendar. How are you going to communicate it? Where are you going to print it? Where are they going to see it? How are you going to handle first, third, fifth Sundays? How are you going to contact them and how are you going to handle conflicts?

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now moving on to our fourth and final video in this playlist. In this strategy, we are going to link it right here on screen. So you can go ahead and take a look at that fourth and final easy social media idea for churches and for youth ministries. Don't forget, we had the Hybrid Ministry show are trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 117: How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 2 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/117 257bdea1-fe74-4f86-9ff8-3009ef2df3f3 Thu, 03 Oct 2024 05:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 117 How Churches Can Use Social Media (Ideas & Examples) Part 2 full Nick Clason My New Favorites (And Easy Way) to create a lot of social media content for your church and youth ministry without losing your life to editing and capturing! 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Idea number two, 00:00:06:10 - 00:00:14:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry which is a continuation of the video playlist, is linked right here at the top of the screen. I'm going to show you and tell you how I get 00:00:14:02 - 00:00:23:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry more done by doing less. You know, we explored, in the last video, the first part of my four part church social challenge framework. 00:00:23:16 - 00:00:31:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in this video, I am going to tell you exactly how we capture these videos with the results that you see here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube. 00:00:31:29 - 00:00:42:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I'm also going to show you how I set up the Photoshop template for this game type along with the game type included in the last video, and it's going to be here all shown on screen. 00:00:42:18 - 00:01:00:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're listening, you may want to hop over to the YouTube channel for this one. And as always, over here on YouTube, there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the parts that are most relevant to you. But social challenge idea number two, that we do in our church and in our student ministry is a game called 00:01:00:24 - 00:01:02:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry name of the game is seven questions. 00:01:02:20 - 00:01:23:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now here's the deal about seven questions. Seven questions is essentially a guessing game. So you have two contestants and they sit across from each other or next to each other on screen. And one contestant has something in their brain. Think honestly. Think like 20 questions. But we just reduced it down to seven. So contestant number one, they're going to have something in their brain. 00:01:23:18 - 00:01:25:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's just pretend the thing in their brain 00:01:25:07 - 00:01:59:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is, a green snowflake mug, as you see here on screen that I'm drinking my coffee out of this morning. And so they're going to say, I am thinking of a thing. And so then the next person has seven questions to try and guess what thing they are guessing. And so they'll ask them yes or no based questions as they ask them either a checkmark for yes answers will show up on the screen, or a x for wrong answers was a checkmark for yes answers and an X for no answers will show up on the screen because it's just going to be keeping track one, 2345, 00:01:59:22 - 00:02:14:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry six, seven on screen. Of how many questions have been asked by the seventh question, they need to submit their guess. And then at the very end of the video, the person will say, let us know down below in the comments how you did. Now, here's one of the reasons that I love 00:02:15:11 - 00:02:21:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this game. If I'm thinking about hybrid, and if I'm thinking about, melding my in-person along with my digital together. 00:02:21:27 - 00:02:37:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I like this game because the way that we open it up and here's the script for it. Feel free to copy it. It goes like this. The name of the game is seven questions. If you want to play along, go ahead and close your eyes. The answer is going to be right here on screen. Category is thing. Here we go. 00:02:37:29 - 00:02:38:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the 00:02:38:09 - 00:02:42:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry other person will start asking them yes or no questions. And so in theory, if someone's scrolling through 00:02:42:24 - 00:02:49:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry social media and they're encouraged to play along, or at least given the option to play along in their set, and they're being told to close 00:02:49:10 - 00:02:56:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry their eyes. If they close their eyes, the, green mug will pop up on the screen with the eyes closed, and so you won't actually see it. 00:02:56:20 - 00:03:08:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'll add some sort of sound effect to let it know that it's gone, and then they can open their eyes again, and they can try and guess the item along with the other person on the in the game in real life, who is, trying to guess it 00:03:08:17 - 00:03:17:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry now, just like the draft style, videos that we do, these are a fantastic way to get students mingling together to invite them, to be a part 00:03:17:06 - 00:03:18:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of our social media. 00:03:18:15 - 00:03:19:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All kinds of different 00:03:19:09 - 00:03:25:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry setups and gear recommendations are also included in the templated link that was in the last episode. It's also going to be included. Same 00:03:25:07 - 00:03:33:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry link in this episode. And so, viewers can, play along. The people in the room get to play along. People in the studio that we have are 00:03:33:28 - 00:03:40:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry getting a chance to kind of like, run the room and run audio and run video and edit all of these things. 00:03:40:10 - 00:03:43:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But what I want to do is I want to show you how I have 00:03:43:03 - 00:04:01:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry created a template. And so if you are watching, here on YouTube, you'll get an opportunity to see I'm going to be, sharing my screen and what you're going to be seeing, right here in just a couple seconds. Is my, screen with the Photoshop template. 00:04:01:07 - 00:04:03:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so right here, this is 00:04:03:07 - 00:04:21:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the template that I use. And so the very first thing here in Photoshop is I have this layer right here. And it's just like a TikTok template layer. And so I use that for this as well as if you look right here on screen, this is our draft template. I just have that on screen so that I know where the elements for social media are. 00:04:21:28 - 00:04:41:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. I know that TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts, their menu options are right aligned. Right? So the follow button, the like button, the comment and all the stuff on the right side of the screen. So I try to stay on the left side of the screen. And I also know down here at the bottom is where the text or the captions or any of the other comments will kind of pop up along with the menu. 00:04:41:08 - 00:05:11:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I try to kind of stay away from there. I just downloaded this this template off of Google. If you download this template for me, it'll be included right here in this Photoshop file as the, bottommost layer. I just have it title as layer one because I haven't changed it yet. But you, if you're not going to use this template that I have, or if you don't have Photoshop, you can just grab something off of Google to kind of put that in at the base of whatever editor you're using something on, and maybe Canva or something and something even on your phone. 00:05:11:03 - 00:05:29:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or if you are using your phone, you may not be able to import a layer like this, but if you are using your phone, just know to kind of stay away from the the left and the bottom right. Those are sort of like the danger zones, so to speak, of, of of social media, of Instagram Reels, of TikTok and all that type of stuff. 00:05:29:20 - 00:05:50:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So anyway, so this is what my template right here looks like. Like I said, it's for the game seven questions. And so, I'll have student A and student B and let me just give you a little hack. If you're recording these in bulk, which we typically do, I make the student say their name. And then I also make the student spell it because when the student comes back on, I do want their name to be on screen. 00:05:50:10 - 00:06:05:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry First name? Only. And when I do that, I want their name to be on screen and I want it to be spelled correctly. And so if I don't know any of their names, or if I didn't know exactly how to spell it, having them spell it helps me make sure that I get their name exactly right on the template. 00:06:05:19 - 00:06:40:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's just a little hack for running the room. But I cut all that out. I don't include, like, my name is Nick. Nick, I take that part, I might say my name is Nick. Cut. And Nick, and then the next person, my name is Caleb. Caleb cut out the Caleb and then say name game seven questions or I may just cut all the name stuff out together and jump right there to where it says the name of the game is Seven questions, because my name and his name is going to be on the screen together and therefore we don't have to, you know, worry about getting that across the in kind of name tag 00:06:40:19 - 00:07:00:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry thing right here matters. Now you'll notice that they're behind some of these other layers. And that's okay because in Photoshop, what we're going to do when we jump over here into premiere, we get to adjust where they are and what like layer they're at. So in this particular one, you'll notice that the students names are beneath the layers. 00:07:00:09 - 00:07:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But all all I need to do if I want to, raise those up is I need to just grab these layers and I'm going to give myself just a little bit more, visual space on this. I can just elevate those all the way to the top. And so now those are on the top. Everything in Photoshop, everything in Adobe is kind of layers, dependent and layers based. 00:07:21:14 - 00:07:38:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now as I go through, they are on top. I also just so you know, because they are sort of in the way I only keep them for the first little bit, and then once they start asking questions, I actually cut them. And so here's me cutting the names out of the, the thing that I'm editing. And so name name name name name. 00:07:38:27 - 00:08:01:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then they're gone. So anyway, all that to be said, I have just this template, these, 123456, seven numbers. If you're watching here on screen, off to the left side, out of the way of any, text or icons on screen. And then I also have, X's and I have them labeled over here in my panel. 00:08:01:12 - 00:08:22:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. X1, x2, x3 x4 x5 x6 x7. But right beneath them. Watch if I hide this layer just with the eyeball tool. Beneath it is a check mark tool. And so depending on what their answer is, I will then pull over either an X or a check when they ask the question. So here in the game they're asking a question. 00:08:22:14 - 00:08:49:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And all these are right ones. And so when they ask it, we just pull in, check one right here. From, from this, from this Photoshop layer, file over here on the left hand side. And so in order to get that in there, you finish editing your thing. So in this particular instance, in the seven questions, the thing that they're thinking of was a dog. 00:08:49:02 - 00:09:07:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I put a picture of a dog here on screen. And you just swap that out for whatever, the item is in the person's brain. And so then I save this file, save as, and, I would go in here to, where my file is stored on my hard drive. So in this particular case, this is what you would see in your download. 00:09:07:21 - 00:09:27:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Look, something like that. Go over here into Adobe Premiere Pro, and I am going to drag this item into my, project bin over here. When I do, it gives me an import layer option in Adobe Premiere Pro. And if I hit this little drop down menu, I can do merge all layers, and that will just bring the whole thing in as an image all together. 00:09:27:13 - 00:09:49:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Merged layers, individual layers or sequence. You're going to want to hit individual layers, and it's going to break every single thing up into an individual layer. So now when I open it up, you'll see if I just preview these, here's my numbers, here's my checks. All the way down through here is layer one. There's my TikTok layer. I don't need that but just going to be in there. 00:09:49:17 - 00:10:07:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Questions seven. So I'm using that to kind of I'm going to animate those layers in. So right here you'll see they come in right here and we do some animations on those as they like fly in or flicker in paired with like a sound effect. Here's their, their names. And those are going to be in alphabetical order. 00:10:07:08 - 00:10:28:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So n would be for Nick would be in alphabetical order here. In this in this Adobe Premiere Pro thing, it would be wherever N would go in the alphabetical list. And then here's all my X's and again it's alphabetical order. And so X1X2X2X4X5X7 depending on if they get it right or wrong. You can add sound effects down here. 00:10:28:18 - 00:10:46:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can get them from three three places stuff like that. You can also, you want to keep it, like I said, under a minute. So I tend to cut out any of the thinking or if the thinking is funny in any way, I might put a sound effect or zoom in on their face, or put some sort of, like, funny thing on screen to kind of keep the video moving. 00:10:46:04 - 00:11:06:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But that's all you got to do, right? So if you are editing with, Adobe products, this is how simple it is. And you can just take and borrow this template and use it to edit your videos. Now, in the last video we talked about drafts, and this is my draft template, which is a little bit more intensive out of the simple in sheer fact, because there are ten things as opposed to only seven things. 00:11:06:23 - 00:11:25:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Same concept. So we're going to save all these things. The only thing that's different is I use circles here. So zoomed in on screen you'll see those. And this is apparently from a breakfast draft and also leftovers of a Bible hero's draft. But this person picked bacon. And so what you'll notice here is that this got this little arrow. 00:11:25:15 - 00:11:43:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What that is, is that's called a clipping mask. And so what I've done is I just snagged this picture off of Google, or you can do a royalty free site like pexels.com or unsplash.com. Links to those down below in the show notes. But you just simply right click and you can create a clipping mask over this circle that's here. 00:11:43:00 - 00:12:06:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so in all of these cases, the circles are already in existence. And so if you go through and I hide these things, this is a numbers with a circle base, underneath all of them. And so I just copy and paste a picture. And so what I do just to kind of show you how it's done, I might do so for, doing coffee products. 00:12:06:24 - 00:12:27:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I might do a coffee mug. Find a coffee mug here. And choose this one. This one seems cool. Copy. And so if I'm replacing out this template, I don't want bacon anymore. I select that layer. It's not selected over here in the layer selection panel. If I delete it, I release and got rid of the clipping mask. 00:12:27:28 - 00:12:44:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now ellipse one is the one that is highlighted. And so you're going to want to make sure that that happens. Otherwise there's just so many layers that you're going to kind of get lost I'll paste this in here. And now this layer is on top of my ellipse layer as I hit command T to transform and adjust the size. 00:12:44:01 - 00:13:01:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm just going to adjust to size right over top of the circles here. Zoom back in so I can get it where I want it to be. There it is. And and then, I'm going to accept the changes and now it's right here, but it's not in its clipped mask. So I'm going to right click on that. 00:13:01:05 - 00:13:20:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'm going to click Create Clipping Mask. And I can then still adjust what is visible there on screen by hitting command and adjusting the size ever so slightly. And then one thing that you're going to want to do is label this really well. So this is the layer. Layer two is the layer that you're going to bring in on top of it over in premiere. 00:13:20:09 - 00:13:34:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's say I'm the first person. So I just label it in for Nick. And then one and so then that way I know that it's n one and that's my mug option. And as long as it stays in this template, when you bring it over in premiere, it's going to be exactly where you want it to stay. 00:13:35:05 - 00:13:57:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if I wanted to change names, that's the beautiful thing about Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premiere Pro is that, if I, have brought this over here, let's say back to our seven questions. If I brought these in with names, but I got the names wrong. All I got to do is go back here into my student A, student B, all I got to do is just change this. 00:13:57:17 - 00:14:20:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If I wanted to change this name to Caleb and then click File Save As and drop it here, replace. Now back over here and promote Premiere Pro. That name is going to update here in just a second. It may take a minute, but it'll update over to Caleb. And so that's something I think that's pretty cool. 00:14:20:27 - 00:14:41:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know what? This is actually from an old this is from, a different layer. So let me so this student B was updated to Caleb. So let me pull that in. Look now it says Caleb. So or now this will actually work if you're watching, if I change it back to student B and then I click File Save as replacing that sucker. 00:14:42:01 - 00:15:06:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now over here. Watch. There went you might you might not have seen it because it happens so fast. That's the beautiful thing about Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. So as I quit sharing my screen here, I just very simply want to say to all of you that these right here, especially seven questions, are really easy one, to get students who have absolutely no editing skills to get going on editing. 00:15:06:02 - 00:15:26:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're quick. They're they're easy to edit because they're under a minute. Usually. And so I can hand one of these over to them, and I can show them how to drag and drop the layers and make sure that they're in the right spot, add some sound effects. And off we go to the races. Now moving on. We are in our four part, my Church's Social Challenge videos. 00:15:26:17 - 00:15:46:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry These are how I get more things done with students. We're going to move on to the third video type in our strategy. And that video is linked right here on screen. So go ahead and click that video and we'll see you over there. Don't forget that we are making digital discipleship easy possible. And accessible. So as always don't forget to stay hybrid. Easy Social Media Ideas for Churches, Student Ministry, Social Media Strategy, Church Social Media Strategy, Youth Group Social media Ideas, DO more for less work, Youth Ministry Social Media Ideas, Youth Ministry Social Media Examples, Hybrid Ministry, Nick Clason ๐Ÿ’ก100 Topics Ideas & Templates๐Ÿ’ก
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00:00 Easy Social Idea #2
02:14 Easy for Viewers to Play
03:43 How I use the Seven Questions Photoshop Template
10:56 How I use the Drafts Photoshop Template

TRANSCRIPT

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
media ideas for churches and youth ministries. Idea number two,

00:00:06:10 - 00:00:14:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
which is a continuation of the video playlist, is linked right here at the top of the screen. I'm going to show you and tell you how I get

00:00:14:02 - 00:00:23:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
more done by doing less. You know, we explored, in the last video, the first part of my four part church social challenge framework.

00:00:23:16 - 00:00:31:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in this video, I am going to tell you exactly how we capture these videos with the results that you see here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then I'm also going to show you how I set up the Photoshop template for this game type along with the game type included in the last video, and it's going to be here all shown on screen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So if you're listening, you may want to hop over to the YouTube channel for this one. And as always, over here on YouTube, there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the parts that are most relevant to you. But social challenge idea number two, that we do in our church and in our student ministry is a game called

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
name of the game is seven questions.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now here's the deal about seven questions. Seven questions is essentially a guessing game. So you have two contestants and they sit across from each other or next to each other on screen. And one contestant has something in their brain. Think honestly. Think like 20 questions. But we just reduced it down to seven. So contestant number one, they're going to have something in their brain.

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Let's just pretend the thing in their brain

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
is, a green snowflake mug, as you see here on screen that I'm drinking my coffee out of this morning. And so they're going to say, I am thinking of a thing. And so then the next person has seven questions to try and guess what thing they are guessing. And so they'll ask them yes or no based questions as they ask them either a checkmark for yes answers will show up on the screen, or a x for wrong answers was a checkmark for yes answers and an X for no answers will show up on the screen because it's just going to be keeping track one, 2345,

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
six, seven on screen. Of how many questions have been asked by the seventh question, they need to submit their guess. And then at the very end of the video, the person will say, let us know down below in the comments how you did. Now, here's one of the reasons that I love

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
this game. If I'm thinking about hybrid, and if I'm thinking about, melding my in-person along with my digital together.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I like this game because the way that we open it up and here's the script for it. Feel free to copy it. It goes like this. The name of the game is seven questions. If you want to play along, go ahead and close your eyes. The answer is going to be right here on screen. Category is thing. Here we go.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then the

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
other person will start asking them yes or no questions. And so in theory, if someone's scrolling through

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
social media and they're encouraged to play along, or at least given the option to play along in their set, and they're being told to close

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their eyes. If they close their eyes, the, green mug will pop up on the screen with the eyes closed, and so you won't actually see it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'll add some sort of sound effect to let it know that it's gone, and then they can open their eyes again, and they can try and guess the item along with the other person on the in the game in real life, who is, trying to guess it

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now, just like the draft style, videos that we do, these are a fantastic way to get students mingling together to invite them, to be a part

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
of our social media.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
All kinds of different

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setups and gear recommendations are also included in the templated link that was in the last episode. It's also going to be included. Same

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link in this episode. And so, viewers can, play along. The people in the room get to play along. People in the studio that we have are

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getting a chance to kind of like, run the room and run audio and run video and edit all of these things.

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But what I want to do is I want to show you how I have

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created a template. And so if you are watching, here on YouTube, you'll get an opportunity to see I'm going to be, sharing my screen and what you're going to be seeing, right here in just a couple seconds. Is my, screen with the Photoshop template.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so right here, this is

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the template that I use. And so the very first thing here in Photoshop is I have this layer right here. And it's just like a TikTok template layer. And so I use that for this as well as if you look right here on screen, this is our draft template. I just have that on screen so that I know where the elements for social media are.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. I know that TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts, their menu options are right aligned. Right? So the follow button, the like button, the comment and all the stuff on the right side of the screen. So I try to stay on the left side of the screen. And I also know down here at the bottom is where the text or the captions or any of the other comments will kind of pop up along with the menu.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So I try to kind of stay away from there. I just downloaded this this template off of Google. If you download this template for me, it'll be included right here in this Photoshop file as the, bottommost layer. I just have it title as layer one because I haven't changed it yet. But you, if you're not going to use this template that I have, or if you don't have Photoshop, you can just grab something off of Google to kind of put that in at the base of whatever editor you're using something on, and maybe Canva or something and something even on your phone.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Or if you are using your phone, you may not be able to import a layer like this, but if you are using your phone, just know to kind of stay away from the the left and the bottom right. Those are sort of like the danger zones, so to speak, of, of of social media, of Instagram Reels, of TikTok and all that type of stuff.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So anyway, so this is what my template right here looks like. Like I said, it's for the game seven questions. And so, I'll have student A and student B and let me just give you a little hack. If you're recording these in bulk, which we typically do, I make the student say their name. And then I also make the student spell it because when the student comes back on, I do want their name to be on screen.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
First name? Only. And when I do that, I want their name to be on screen and I want it to be spelled correctly. And so if I don't know any of their names, or if I didn't know exactly how to spell it, having them spell it helps me make sure that I get their name exactly right on the template.

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That's just a little hack for running the room. But I cut all that out. I don't include, like, my name is Nick. Nick, I take that part, I might say my name is Nick. Cut. And Nick, and then the next person, my name is Caleb. Caleb cut out the Caleb and then say name game seven questions or I may just cut all the name stuff out together and jump right there to where it says the name of the game is Seven questions, because my name and his name is going to be on the screen together and therefore we don't have to, you know, worry about getting that across the in kind of name tag

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thing right here matters. Now you'll notice that they're behind some of these other layers. And that's okay because in Photoshop, what we're going to do when we jump over here into premiere, we get to adjust where they are and what like layer they're at. So in this particular one, you'll notice that the students names are beneath the layers.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But all all I need to do if I want to, raise those up is I need to just grab these layers and I'm going to give myself just a little bit more, visual space on this. I can just elevate those all the way to the top. And so now those are on the top. Everything in Photoshop, everything in Adobe is kind of layers, dependent and layers based.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now as I go through, they are on top. I also just so you know, because they are sort of in the way I only keep them for the first little bit, and then once they start asking questions, I actually cut them. And so here's me cutting the names out of the, the thing that I'm editing. And so name name name name name.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then they're gone. So anyway, all that to be said, I have just this template, these, 123456, seven numbers. If you're watching here on screen, off to the left side, out of the way of any, text or icons on screen. And then I also have, X's and I have them labeled over here in my panel.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. X1, x2, x3 x4 x5 x6 x7. But right beneath them. Watch if I hide this layer just with the eyeball tool. Beneath it is a check mark tool. And so depending on what their answer is, I will then pull over either an X or a check when they ask the question. So here in the game they're asking a question.

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And all these are right ones. And so when they ask it, we just pull in, check one right here. From, from this, from this Photoshop layer, file over here on the left hand side. And so in order to get that in there, you finish editing your thing. So in this particular instance, in the seven questions, the thing that they're thinking of was a dog.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so I put a picture of a dog here on screen. And you just swap that out for whatever, the item is in the person's brain. And so then I save this file, save as, and, I would go in here to, where my file is stored on my hard drive. So in this particular case, this is what you would see in your download.

00:09:07:21 - 00:09:27:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Look, something like that. Go over here into Adobe Premiere Pro, and I am going to drag this item into my, project bin over here. When I do, it gives me an import layer option in Adobe Premiere Pro. And if I hit this little drop down menu, I can do merge all layers, and that will just bring the whole thing in as an image all together.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Merged layers, individual layers or sequence. You're going to want to hit individual layers, and it's going to break every single thing up into an individual layer. So now when I open it up, you'll see if I just preview these, here's my numbers, here's my checks. All the way down through here is layer one. There's my TikTok layer. I don't need that but just going to be in there.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Questions seven. So I'm using that to kind of I'm going to animate those layers in. So right here you'll see they come in right here and we do some animations on those as they like fly in or flicker in paired with like a sound effect. Here's their, their names. And those are going to be in alphabetical order.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So n would be for Nick would be in alphabetical order here. In this in this Adobe Premiere Pro thing, it would be wherever N would go in the alphabetical list. And then here's all my X's and again it's alphabetical order. And so X1X2X2X4X5X7 depending on if they get it right or wrong. You can add sound effects down here.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can get them from three three places stuff like that. You can also, you want to keep it, like I said, under a minute. So I tend to cut out any of the thinking or if the thinking is funny in any way, I might put a sound effect or zoom in on their face, or put some sort of, like, funny thing on screen to kind of keep the video moving.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But that's all you got to do, right? So if you are editing with, Adobe products, this is how simple it is. And you can just take and borrow this template and use it to edit your videos. Now, in the last video we talked about drafts, and this is my draft template, which is a little bit more intensive out of the simple in sheer fact, because there are ten things as opposed to only seven things.

00:11:06:23 - 00:11:25:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Same concept. So we're going to save all these things. The only thing that's different is I use circles here. So zoomed in on screen you'll see those. And this is apparently from a breakfast draft and also leftovers of a Bible hero's draft. But this person picked bacon. And so what you'll notice here is that this got this little arrow.

00:11:25:15 - 00:11:43:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
What that is, is that's called a clipping mask. And so what I've done is I just snagged this picture off of Google, or you can do a royalty free site like pexels.com or unsplash.com. Links to those down below in the show notes. But you just simply right click and you can create a clipping mask over this circle that's here.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so in all of these cases, the circles are already in existence. And so if you go through and I hide these things, this is a numbers with a circle base, underneath all of them. And so I just copy and paste a picture. And so what I do just to kind of show you how it's done, I might do so for, doing coffee products.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I might do a coffee mug. Find a coffee mug here. And choose this one. This one seems cool. Copy. And so if I'm replacing out this template, I don't want bacon anymore. I select that layer. It's not selected over here in the layer selection panel. If I delete it, I release and got rid of the clipping mask.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And now ellipse one is the one that is highlighted. And so you're going to want to make sure that that happens. Otherwise there's just so many layers that you're going to kind of get lost I'll paste this in here. And now this layer is on top of my ellipse layer as I hit command T to transform and adjust the size.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm just going to adjust to size right over top of the circles here. Zoom back in so I can get it where I want it to be. There it is. And and then, I'm going to accept the changes and now it's right here, but it's not in its clipped mask. So I'm going to right click on that.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I'm going to click Create Clipping Mask. And I can then still adjust what is visible there on screen by hitting command and adjusting the size ever so slightly. And then one thing that you're going to want to do is label this really well. So this is the layer. Layer two is the layer that you're going to bring in on top of it over in premiere.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So let's say I'm the first person. So I just label it in for Nick. And then one and so then that way I know that it's n one and that's my mug option. And as long as it stays in this template, when you bring it over in premiere, it's going to be exactly where you want it to stay.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, if I wanted to change names, that's the beautiful thing about Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premiere Pro is that, if I, have brought this over here, let's say back to our seven questions. If I brought these in with names, but I got the names wrong. All I got to do is go back here into my student A, student B, all I got to do is just change this.

00:13:57:17 - 00:14:20:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If I wanted to change this name to Caleb and then click File Save As and drop it here, replace. Now back over here and promote Premiere Pro. That name is going to update here in just a second. It may take a minute, but it'll update over to Caleb. And so that's something I think that's pretty cool.

00:14:20:27 - 00:14:41:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You know what? This is actually from an old this is from, a different layer. So let me so this student B was updated to Caleb. So let me pull that in. Look now it says Caleb. So or now this will actually work if you're watching, if I change it back to student B and then I click File Save as replacing that sucker.

00:14:42:01 - 00:15:06:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now over here. Watch. There went you might you might not have seen it because it happens so fast. That's the beautiful thing about Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. So as I quit sharing my screen here, I just very simply want to say to all of you that these right here, especially seven questions, are really easy one, to get students who have absolutely no editing skills to get going on editing.

00:15:06:02 - 00:15:26:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
They're quick. They're they're easy to edit because they're under a minute. Usually. And so I can hand one of these over to them, and I can show them how to drag and drop the layers and make sure that they're in the right spot, add some sound effects. And off we go to the races. Now moving on. We are in our four part, my Church's Social Challenge videos.

00:15:26:17 - 00:15:46:28
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These are how I get more things done with students. We're going to move on to the third video type in our strategy. And that video is linked right here on screen. So go ahead and click that video and we'll see you over there. Don't forget that we are making digital discipleship easy possible. And accessible. So as always don't forget to stay hybrid.

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In this 4 part series playlist I will share with you 4 different types of video content for your church and your social media and how to start creating content with your students, teenagers, youth group and church attenders.

//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/117
======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//Social Challenge 4 Part Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B6Qeaa_hPA&list=PLngXlSr64YaKLwZqOkQe7NzOqSVR0-P1s

//Custom Coaching
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Easy Social Idea #2
02:14 Easy for Viewers to Play
03:43 How I use the Seven Questions Photoshop Template
10:56 How I use the Drafts Photoshop Template

TRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social

00:00:01:28 - 00:00:06:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
media ideas for churches and youth ministries. Idea number two,

00:00:06:10 - 00:00:14:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
which is a continuation of the video playlist, is linked right here at the top of the screen. I'm going to show you and tell you how I get

00:00:14:02 - 00:00:23:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
more done by doing less. You know, we explored, in the last video, the first part of my four part church social challenge framework.

00:00:23:16 - 00:00:31:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in this video, I am going to tell you exactly how we capture these videos with the results that you see here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube.

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And then I'm also going to show you how I set up the Photoshop template for this game type along with the game type included in the last video, and it's going to be here all shown on screen.

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So if you're listening, you may want to hop over to the YouTube channel for this one. And as always, over here on YouTube, there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the parts that are most relevant to you. But social challenge idea number two, that we do in our church and in our student ministry is a game called

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name of the game is seven questions.

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Now here's the deal about seven questions. Seven questions is essentially a guessing game. So you have two contestants and they sit across from each other or next to each other on screen. And one contestant has something in their brain. Think honestly. Think like 20 questions. But we just reduced it down to seven. So contestant number one, they're going to have something in their brain.

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Let's just pretend the thing in their brain

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is, a green snowflake mug, as you see here on screen that I'm drinking my coffee out of this morning. And so they're going to say, I am thinking of a thing. And so then the next person has seven questions to try and guess what thing they are guessing. And so they'll ask them yes or no based questions as they ask them either a checkmark for yes answers will show up on the screen, or a x for wrong answers was a checkmark for yes answers and an X for no answers will show up on the screen because it's just going to be keeping track one, 2345,

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six, seven on screen. Of how many questions have been asked by the seventh question, they need to submit their guess. And then at the very end of the video, the person will say, let us know down below in the comments how you did. Now, here's one of the reasons that I love

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this game. If I'm thinking about hybrid, and if I'm thinking about, melding my in-person along with my digital together.

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I like this game because the way that we open it up and here's the script for it. Feel free to copy it. It goes like this. The name of the game is seven questions. If you want to play along, go ahead and close your eyes. The answer is going to be right here on screen. Category is thing. Here we go.

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And then the

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other person will start asking them yes or no questions. And so in theory, if someone's scrolling through

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social media and they're encouraged to play along, or at least given the option to play along in their set, and they're being told to close

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their eyes. If they close their eyes, the, green mug will pop up on the screen with the eyes closed, and so you won't actually see it.

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I'll add some sort of sound effect to let it know that it's gone, and then they can open their eyes again, and they can try and guess the item along with the other person on the in the game in real life, who is, trying to guess it

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now, just like the draft style, videos that we do, these are a fantastic way to get students mingling together to invite them, to be a part

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of our social media.

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All kinds of different

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setups and gear recommendations are also included in the templated link that was in the last episode. It's also going to be included. Same

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link in this episode. And so, viewers can, play along. The people in the room get to play along. People in the studio that we have are

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getting a chance to kind of like, run the room and run audio and run video and edit all of these things.

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But what I want to do is I want to show you how I have

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created a template. And so if you are watching, here on YouTube, you'll get an opportunity to see I'm going to be, sharing my screen and what you're going to be seeing, right here in just a couple seconds. Is my, screen with the Photoshop template.

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And so right here, this is

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the template that I use. And so the very first thing here in Photoshop is I have this layer right here. And it's just like a TikTok template layer. And so I use that for this as well as if you look right here on screen, this is our draft template. I just have that on screen so that I know where the elements for social media are.

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Right. I know that TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts, their menu options are right aligned. Right? So the follow button, the like button, the comment and all the stuff on the right side of the screen. So I try to stay on the left side of the screen. And I also know down here at the bottom is where the text or the captions or any of the other comments will kind of pop up along with the menu.

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So I try to kind of stay away from there. I just downloaded this this template off of Google. If you download this template for me, it'll be included right here in this Photoshop file as the, bottommost layer. I just have it title as layer one because I haven't changed it yet. But you, if you're not going to use this template that I have, or if you don't have Photoshop, you can just grab something off of Google to kind of put that in at the base of whatever editor you're using something on, and maybe Canva or something and something even on your phone.

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Or if you are using your phone, you may not be able to import a layer like this, but if you are using your phone, just know to kind of stay away from the the left and the bottom right. Those are sort of like the danger zones, so to speak, of, of of social media, of Instagram Reels, of TikTok and all that type of stuff.

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So anyway, so this is what my template right here looks like. Like I said, it's for the game seven questions. And so, I'll have student A and student B and let me just give you a little hack. If you're recording these in bulk, which we typically do, I make the student say their name. And then I also make the student spell it because when the student comes back on, I do want their name to be on screen.

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First name? Only. And when I do that, I want their name to be on screen and I want it to be spelled correctly. And so if I don't know any of their names, or if I didn't know exactly how to spell it, having them spell it helps me make sure that I get their name exactly right on the template.

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That's just a little hack for running the room. But I cut all that out. I don't include, like, my name is Nick. Nick, I take that part, I might say my name is Nick. Cut. And Nick, and then the next person, my name is Caleb. Caleb cut out the Caleb and then say name game seven questions or I may just cut all the name stuff out together and jump right there to where it says the name of the game is Seven questions, because my name and his name is going to be on the screen together and therefore we don't have to, you know, worry about getting that across the in kind of name tag

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thing right here matters. Now you'll notice that they're behind some of these other layers. And that's okay because in Photoshop, what we're going to do when we jump over here into premiere, we get to adjust where they are and what like layer they're at. So in this particular one, you'll notice that the students names are beneath the layers.

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But all all I need to do if I want to, raise those up is I need to just grab these layers and I'm going to give myself just a little bit more, visual space on this. I can just elevate those all the way to the top. And so now those are on the top. Everything in Photoshop, everything in Adobe is kind of layers, dependent and layers based.

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And now as I go through, they are on top. I also just so you know, because they are sort of in the way I only keep them for the first little bit, and then once they start asking questions, I actually cut them. And so here's me cutting the names out of the, the thing that I'm editing. And so name name name name name.

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And then they're gone. So anyway, all that to be said, I have just this template, these, 123456, seven numbers. If you're watching here on screen, off to the left side, out of the way of any, text or icons on screen. And then I also have, X's and I have them labeled over here in my panel.

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Right. X1, x2, x3 x4 x5 x6 x7. But right beneath them. Watch if I hide this layer just with the eyeball tool. Beneath it is a check mark tool. And so depending on what their answer is, I will then pull over either an X or a check when they ask the question. So here in the game they're asking a question.

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And all these are right ones. And so when they ask it, we just pull in, check one right here. From, from this, from this Photoshop layer, file over here on the left hand side. And so in order to get that in there, you finish editing your thing. So in this particular instance, in the seven questions, the thing that they're thinking of was a dog.

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And so I put a picture of a dog here on screen. And you just swap that out for whatever, the item is in the person's brain. And so then I save this file, save as, and, I would go in here to, where my file is stored on my hard drive. So in this particular case, this is what you would see in your download.

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Look, something like that. Go over here into Adobe Premiere Pro, and I am going to drag this item into my, project bin over here. When I do, it gives me an import layer option in Adobe Premiere Pro. And if I hit this little drop down menu, I can do merge all layers, and that will just bring the whole thing in as an image all together.

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Merged layers, individual layers or sequence. You're going to want to hit individual layers, and it's going to break every single thing up into an individual layer. So now when I open it up, you'll see if I just preview these, here's my numbers, here's my checks. All the way down through here is layer one. There's my TikTok layer. I don't need that but just going to be in there.

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Questions seven. So I'm using that to kind of I'm going to animate those layers in. So right here you'll see they come in right here and we do some animations on those as they like fly in or flicker in paired with like a sound effect. Here's their, their names. And those are going to be in alphabetical order.

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So n would be for Nick would be in alphabetical order here. In this in this Adobe Premiere Pro thing, it would be wherever N would go in the alphabetical list. And then here's all my X's and again it's alphabetical order. And so X1X2X2X4X5X7 depending on if they get it right or wrong. You can add sound effects down here.

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You can get them from three three places stuff like that. You can also, you want to keep it, like I said, under a minute. So I tend to cut out any of the thinking or if the thinking is funny in any way, I might put a sound effect or zoom in on their face, or put some sort of, like, funny thing on screen to kind of keep the video moving.

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But that's all you got to do, right? So if you are editing with, Adobe products, this is how simple it is. And you can just take and borrow this template and use it to edit your videos. Now, in the last video we talked about drafts, and this is my draft template, which is a little bit more intensive out of the simple in sheer fact, because there are ten things as opposed to only seven things.

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Same concept. So we're going to save all these things. The only thing that's different is I use circles here. So zoomed in on screen you'll see those. And this is apparently from a breakfast draft and also leftovers of a Bible hero's draft. But this person picked bacon. And so what you'll notice here is that this got this little arrow.

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What that is, is that's called a clipping mask. And so what I've done is I just snagged this picture off of Google, or you can do a royalty free site like pexels.com or unsplash.com. Links to those down below in the show notes. But you just simply right click and you can create a clipping mask over this circle that's here.

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Right. And so in all of these cases, the circles are already in existence. And so if you go through and I hide these things, this is a numbers with a circle base, underneath all of them. And so I just copy and paste a picture. And so what I do just to kind of show you how it's done, I might do so for, doing coffee products.

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I might do a coffee mug. Find a coffee mug here. And choose this one. This one seems cool. Copy. And so if I'm replacing out this template, I don't want bacon anymore. I select that layer. It's not selected over here in the layer selection panel. If I delete it, I release and got rid of the clipping mask.

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And now ellipse one is the one that is highlighted. And so you're going to want to make sure that that happens. Otherwise there's just so many layers that you're going to kind of get lost I'll paste this in here. And now this layer is on top of my ellipse layer as I hit command T to transform and adjust the size.

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I'm just going to adjust to size right over top of the circles here. Zoom back in so I can get it where I want it to be. There it is. And and then, I'm going to accept the changes and now it's right here, but it's not in its clipped mask. So I'm going to right click on that.

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And I'm going to click Create Clipping Mask. And I can then still adjust what is visible there on screen by hitting command and adjusting the size ever so slightly. And then one thing that you're going to want to do is label this really well. So this is the layer. Layer two is the layer that you're going to bring in on top of it over in premiere.

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So let's say I'm the first person. So I just label it in for Nick. And then one and so then that way I know that it's n one and that's my mug option. And as long as it stays in this template, when you bring it over in premiere, it's going to be exactly where you want it to stay.

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Now, if I wanted to change names, that's the beautiful thing about Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premiere Pro is that, if I, have brought this over here, let's say back to our seven questions. If I brought these in with names, but I got the names wrong. All I got to do is go back here into my student A, student B, all I got to do is just change this.

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If I wanted to change this name to Caleb and then click File Save As and drop it here, replace. Now back over here and promote Premiere Pro. That name is going to update here in just a second. It may take a minute, but it'll update over to Caleb. And so that's something I think that's pretty cool.

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You know what? This is actually from an old this is from, a different layer. So let me so this student B was updated to Caleb. So let me pull that in. Look now it says Caleb. So or now this will actually work if you're watching, if I change it back to student B and then I click File Save as replacing that sucker.

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Now over here. Watch. There went you might you might not have seen it because it happens so fast. That's the beautiful thing about Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. So as I quit sharing my screen here, I just very simply want to say to all of you that these right here, especially seven questions, are really easy one, to get students who have absolutely no editing skills to get going on editing.

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They're quick. They're they're easy to edit because they're under a minute. Usually. And so I can hand one of these over to them, and I can show them how to drag and drop the layers and make sure that they're in the right spot, add some sound effects. And off we go to the races. Now moving on. We are in our four part, my Church's Social Challenge videos.

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These are how I get more things done with students. We're going to move on to the third video type in our strategy. And that video is linked right here on screen. So go ahead and click that video and we'll see you over there. Don't forget that we are making digital discipleship easy possible. And accessible. So as always don't forget to stay hybrid.

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I am your host, Nick place, and we are looking to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. My strategy for social media in 2024, 00:00:18:14 - 00:00:24:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and it's looking like beyond if you didn't know this. Short form vertical based videos or reels? 00:00:24:13 - 00:00:32:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry TikToks YouTube shorts account for 90% of the internet's traffic, which is just a wildly high 00:00:32:05 - 00:00:51:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry statistic. And so people are getting on the internet to consume these styles of videos. And so we as churches, as communicators, as people who want to have an impact in our world, we need to be on these platforms. And so if you do want to be on social media, I recommend taking that strategic approach, posting those types of videos. 00:00:51:09 - 00:00:59:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I also recommend not just posting only spiritual content. So one of the funnest things to do is post content that is just fun, 00:00:59:24 - 00:01:04:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry interesting, funny, like a game of some sort, and then hook people kind 00:01:04:08 - 00:01:08:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of with that sort of piece of content and then hopefully drive them deeper down your funnel, 00:01:08:27 - 00:01:16:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry which you will eventually get them to more spiritual content and, and hopefully you'll get them to a long form version of your spiritual content, which from there you can hopefully, 00:01:16:28 - 00:01:21:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry just like you would live in the room, just like you would live with the sermon. 00:01:21:12 - 00:01:30:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Prompt them to take some sort of meaningful next step closer to Jesus. My new favorite phenomenon for churches and for youth ministries is to create content 00:01:30:06 - 00:01:32:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with my students, not just content 00:01:32:29 - 00:01:34:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry for my students. 00:01:34:21 - 00:01:52:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Generation Z and subsequently Generation Alpha are looking for the personal touch. They've they've grown up under the rise of customization generation. Alpha is going to be growing up under the rise of personalization with algorithms and AI and things that can make life just very tailored to them. 00:01:52:19 - 00:01:55:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so they don't want to necessarily get on their social media and see a 00:01:55:26 - 00:02:00:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry bunch of stuff that I have done for them. They would rather get on social media and see a bunch of stuff 00:02:00:28 - 00:02:04:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that they have had an opportunity to participate in. 00:02:04:02 - 00:02:09:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so a couple years ago, my resident Caleb, linked right here is my interview with him. 00:02:09:07 - 00:02:24:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in it, we actually talked for a little while about this concept called the social challenge. And so where this came birthed out of is in our student ministry, we have a very, very vibrant YouTube channel. It's probably the social media platform that 00:02:24:02 - 00:02:37:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I pour the most gas on. If you want to see our strategy link down below is my completely free e-book strategy guide, detailing and outline every single thing I do from silly posting videos, long form version, pieces of content. 00:02:37:13 - 00:02:43:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It will help you take an adapter and make that possible in your context. But we were talking through a 00:02:43:20 - 00:02:48:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry YouTube channel, which is mostly just teaching videos, and he wanted to include more students 00:02:48:08 - 00:02:56:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on our longform, teaching videos section of YouTube. You know, YouTube is broken into different like containers. You got you got 00:02:56:02 - 00:02:59:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry posts and you got shorts and you got videos and you got lives. 00:02:59:18 - 00:03:01:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so he's like, I want more students. I 00:03:01:24 - 00:03:18:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry think it'd be good if there were more students on the video portion. And not just us staff, people with teaching videos. And I was like, okay, great. So he invented this thing called the social Challenge. And the social challenge became a huge win for us in our student ministry in multiple arenas. 00:03:18:25 - 00:03:31:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But early on, it would just be him or maybe him, and like another one of our students or him and another one of our interns filming some, some students doing some sort of challenge, just think like any sort of 00:03:31:02 - 00:03:36:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry youth group game. And then they would just capture it on camera. And so that was on a Wednesday night. 00:03:36:14 - 00:03:40:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our team, we don't work on Fridays. And so he would come into the office 00:03:40:27 - 00:03:53:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on Thursday and he would edit all day long to try and get that thing ready to go. And then from there, he would get that thing posted and off he would go, putting our students on, on the YouTube channel. Well, 00:03:53:14 - 00:04:01:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry over time, that just became hefty every single week with a Thursday all day edit like that was the only thing he had like really bandwidth for it to do. 00:04:01:17 - 00:04:08:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On Thursday. And so we let that thing run for about a semester. And then we made an adjustment. And I said, what if we, 00:04:08:00 - 00:04:17:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because in the meantime, we were filming short form, vertical based video content with our staff, and we would film like once a month, and we would get together and we would do some of these ideas. 00:04:17:00 - 00:04:22:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And one of the ones I'm about to share with you here in just a minute, and we would, we were filming for us 00:04:22:20 - 00:04:35:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and I was like, what if we put students behind that camera? And so that's what we did. And so my favorite, we do in our studio. Mr.. Now we've honed it in where we do four different types of social challenges. 00:04:35:06 - 00:04:44:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so most months are made up of four different weeks and so on week one we'll do this week two do that, week three we'll do that. Link four we'll do that. Or we'll just do 00:04:44:17 - 00:04:49:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry whatever is running low. And so I have every single thing, every single piece of content stored 00:04:49:04 - 00:04:56:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in a Google Drive. And I can see as I post daily, I can see which of these pieces of content I'm running 00:04:56:01 - 00:05:01:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry out of, and then thus which ones we need to film more of on the next Wednesday night. 00:05:01:02 - 00:05:04:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Some of the other advantages youth pastors that this has had 00:05:04:18 - 00:05:14:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is this has created a space in our student ministry for students to come and let their voice be heard, and for them to actually get a chance to be on social media themselves. And then 00:05:14:14 - 00:05:18:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry they're actually looking for it later on down the road, like, when are you going to post my video? 00:05:19:02 - 00:05:23:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let me know. And it was funny, last week I actually pulled a kid aside and said, hey, I'm 00:05:23:10 - 00:05:35:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry posting yours tomorrow. And so then he texted me. I didn't send him the link or anything like that, but he texted me. He's like, that was good, you know, typical seventh grade boy. But, he he reached out of his own accord. 00:05:35:08 - 00:05:56:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Once he saw his video had been posted online. And so it's had some major wins for us in the room. It's actually made like our in person, a little bit more, intimate, like it's made our students actually get to interact with and know each other a little bit more. And so that's our current adaptation. We just batch record our students any given Wednesday 00:05:56:13 - 00:06:03:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry night, with these different for social media ideas, I'm going to share with you in this video playlist. 00:06:03:20 - 00:06:22:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The first video idea that we do, it's called drafts. Now, you've probably seen or heard these before in if you've ever been on social media, all kinds of different people have done them. And I'm not, you know, claiming to be the the author of this idea, we have no doubt seen, we're taking 00:06:22:25 - 00:06:28:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this, you know, from other people, we've seen it done elsewhere, and we've adapted it to our culture 00:06:28:07 - 00:06:29:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and to our context. 00:06:29:23 - 00:06:31:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But essentially what it is is you choose, like 00:06:31:27 - 00:06:58:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry any topic, literally any topic in the world that has at least ten or more options. And the reason you need ten or more is because it's it's sort of treated like a, like sports or like a basketball type thing where you draft somebody, to your starting five. And so if you and if you and I were doing this, you might go first in any particular category, let's just say, 00:06:58:12 - 00:07:10:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry let's just say basketball players, you know, for example, by the way, link down below in the description I have shared with you, like over 100 different draft topic ideas 00:07:10:02 - 00:07:10:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry as well as a 00:07:10:25 - 00:07:19:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry gear resource list. So go ahead and click that link and go grab it. You can just have it and then you can take these and kind of copy and paste them and implement them into your church and into 00:07:19:17 - 00:07:27:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry your social media strategy. But if you're going first, maybe you're Michael Jordan guy. So you take Michael Jordan, but then you go to me and it'd be my pick. 00:07:27:15 - 00:07:45:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the only thing I couldn't take is Michael Jordan. I could take any other basketball player I wanted to. I could take LeBron James. I can also take Bronny James. It doesn't matter. I could take whoever I want. So I'll go LeBron. And then back to you. You might think that the third greatest player of all time is like Magic Johnson. 00:07:45:08 - 00:08:02:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's fair. I'll go ahead and give you like thumbs up on that. Come back to me. I'll probably take like Larry Bird or something like that. Back over to you. Let's say you take, maybe you're a big Bulls guy. Maybe you take Scottie Pippen. Great. That's fine. I don't agree with that necessarily. But I appreciate you trying back over to me. 00:08:02:23 - 00:08:18:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I probably go doctor J. Or Wilt Chamberlain maybe. I think, and as I'm doing this, I'm commentating it, right. I'm like, you know, I'm thinking this thing that, and so I'll go ahead. I'll take I'll take, I'll, I'll end up taking wilt. No no no no no no. What am I doing? I'll take Shaq I'll take Shaq back over to you. 00:08:18:17 - 00:08:33:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you're like, all right, fine, I'll take Kobe. Great. That's great. Back over to me now. I'll take wilt okay. And I'm not now like building a team to play with. And you can set those parameters because I can't have Will and Shaq playing on the same team that both centers. Right. Back over to you. Maybe you're going to take like a modern guy. 00:08:33:09 - 00:08:47:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Maybe you're going to go like Kevin Durant or something like that. And I think that would be fair. Back over to me if I wanted to take a modern guy. Though I don't think he's, top ten of all time, but I do think it's great. Shaq good. So Alexander represent Oklahoma City Thunder. That's my favorite basketball team. 00:08:48:00 - 00:09:11:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then what you do then is you'd say, hey, let us know. Comment down below who you think won okay. Now in that particular case, everyone watching would definitely say that I won. But maybe you got some big, Bulls fans, some some people from Chicago watching your content. Maybe they would say that you won, and they would say that you picked all the goats and Kobe Bryant and Scottie Pippen and all the other people, right? 00:09:11:15 - 00:09:11:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, 00:09:11:24 - 00:09:18:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry whatever the case might be, but you just literally go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Another option you can do is you can snake it in 00:09:18:24 - 00:09:27:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so if you don't know, it's like, first person, second person, second person, first person, first person, second person, second person. That's the concept of a snake draft. 00:09:27:23 - 00:09:28:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't 00:09:28:02 - 00:09:44:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't do that as much in like a two person draft because, it's just like 12X2X2X2X2, and then it ends with one. I'd rather just kind of do the bounce back, but either way, your choice, your decision, you figure out which you prefer. And then 00:09:44:11 - 00:09:51:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I need to edit that sucker. And so typically when I do it with anyone on my staff, those drafts end up being like, five minutes, 00:09:51:12 - 00:09:54:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry because there's a fair bit of banter. 00:09:54:07 - 00:10:00:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we're sort of like, gassing people for, like, what they said, or slamming them for how bad we thought the choices were. 00:10:00:26 - 00:10:08:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And either way, we're kind of going back and forth, making fun of each other. And so that you have you have some decisions to make 00:10:08:10 - 00:10:18:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in the editing process, right? You got to get it down for me, I try to get every video under 60s because YouTube shorts is cap is 60s. 00:10:18:06 - 00:10:26:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if I can get it under 60, then that means I can post it on YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram Reels and Facebook Reels all four places. 00:10:26:05 - 00:10:39:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if you don't want to use YouTube shorts though, if you're trying to reach teenagers, can I please implore you to consider using it? 95% of teenagers are on YouTube, and so if you are in youth ministry, you should definitely be using YouTube, and thus you should also 00:10:39:20 - 00:10:41:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry be using YouTube shorts. 00:10:41:10 - 00:10:49:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you don't want to use YouTube, then you can make it longer because those other platforms allow for longer, time segments of videos. And you can 00:10:49:26 - 00:10:58:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry edit it directly on your phone. My edits, it look like this. If you're watching here on YouTube. I'll also share with you my Photoshop template in that, 00:10:58:08 - 00:11:07:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry free downloadable document where I am sharing, you know, all the different hundreds of ideas of draft, topics and content that you can use. 00:11:07:28 - 00:11:29:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But, if you don't have Photoshop, you can literally design this, in anything. You can design it on TikTok, in the TikTok editor. You can design it on an app like Cap Cut for the free version or the paid version. You can use it on Instagram Reels. Editor. Like it's literally the sky is the limit on where you can edit it. 00:11:29:03 - 00:11:30:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I like to edit in 00:11:30:08 - 00:11:43:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Adobe Premiere Pro, so I use Adobe Photoshop, and then I import those files into Adobe Premiere Pro and the good news in all of this is that for a while I started doing it. And then, homeschool kids are 00:11:43:09 - 00:11:50:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the best in our student ministry because they obviously they they don't go to school for as long during the day when they do homeschool. 00:11:51:00 - 00:11:52:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I can have 00:11:52:03 - 00:12:04:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry them come in and they can use, one of our spare computers that has Adobe Premiere Pro loaded on it. And I've been just teaching them how to use Adobe Photoshop, how to use Adobe Premiere Pro. 00:12:04:16 - 00:12:12:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I had a student, I kid you not, who he took all of, one of our other, like, video tape adaptations. 00:12:12:03 - 00:12:13:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We had like, like 12 00:12:13:29 - 00:12:21:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of them, and he edited every single one of them, like in one sitting. He he came in. It was like 00:12:21:04 - 00:12:27:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry his maybe fifth time in, And so he had to, like, learn and get up to speed on that fifth time. I mean, he just 00:12:27:27 - 00:12:31:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry crushed them to the point where he was loving editing. 00:12:31:00 - 00:12:36:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then he said to me, hey, can I come in tomorrow? And I was like, bro, you've done them all. 00:12:36:00 - 00:13:00:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And before I was getting students to come in and edit, I was editing them all myself, every single one. And so I was always behind. I never was caught up and he got me completely caught up. And now the other good news in all of this is that in addition to students editing it and getting them posted, I've also had students begin to take ownership and leadership in the room of where we're filming this thing. 00:13:00:00 - 00:13:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we've actually built a full studio. You can see link down below, our studio tour and all the gear that we use, but sometimes we just use like a camera on the back of a cell phone and like external microphones. Other times we use like full podcast studio type microphones and run that into like a focus right camera. 00:13:17:22 - 00:13:38:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we filmed it off our Sony ZV ten. Again, all of that is linked in that, studio tour episode. If you want to look at any of that purchase, any of that. And then if you do have your phone, you can just edit it directly off your phone. If you do it off of a camera, you got to take out the SD card and then download it and then go edit it in some sort of software on your computer. 00:13:38:06 - 00:14:02:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Again, either one of those strategies is fine. You decide what you want, you can do a really heavy edit, or you can do a really minimal edit like either of those. Either of those strategies works, and you can kind of do whatever works best for you and your, your time frame. Right. But once those students, edit those, I also have students capturing them or I have them running the room. 00:14:02:08 - 00:14:23:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I have them, getting students in place. I have them literally running, like, action and, like, clapping their hands. And, it was actually really helpful because one week when we were filming a bunch of, these draft style videos, the camera audio cut out, but I got all the mic audio, but I was like, how am I going to sync up empty words? 00:14:23:08 - 00:14:49:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry To real audio? And because of the claps, I was able to find the clap on the camera, link up that spike, and then they were able to be to be linked. And so, I at this point in time, like this, this strategy, this four part video strategy, students are running it on Wednesday nights capturing the videos, and then students are editing it and all I'm doing is overseeing it and posting it. 00:14:49:17 - 00:14:51:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so my guess would be, if you're in 00:14:51:05 - 00:15:15:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry youth ministry and you want to create content with your students, that this is what you're looking for because you may not feel equipped, you may not feel like you have, what it takes or even the knowledge behind social media in your students. They do, they do. And if you're willing to build the infrastructure enough to then be able to hand that over to them, I think that's a fantastic model and it takes more work off of your 00:15:15:02 - 00:15:16:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry plate. 00:15:16:04 - 00:15:38:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're interested in exploring, how to do that or even just looking for maybe like some some next steps, I offer a coaching link down below. Reach out about that is really affordable, is really cheap, and I would love to help you get that up and running. Now on to easy social media video idea number two. 00:15:38:21 - 00:15:57:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm glad that you asked because I'm sure you were looking for it. It's actually going to be linked here on screen in the very next video, which I have here on my channel. So go ahead and tap that. Go check that one out. 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My New Favorites (And Easy Way) to create a lot of social media content for your church and youth ministry without losing your life to editing and capturing!
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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media ideas for churches and for youth ministries.

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Hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick place, and we are looking to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. My strategy for social media in 2024,

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and it's looking like beyond if you didn't know this. Short form vertical based videos or reels?

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TikToks YouTube shorts account for 90% of the internet's traffic, which is just a wildly high

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statistic. And so people are getting on the internet to consume these styles of videos. And so we as churches, as communicators, as people who want to have an impact in our world, we need to be on these platforms. And so if you do want to be on social media, I recommend taking that strategic approach, posting those types of videos.

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And I also recommend not just posting only spiritual content. So one of the funnest things to do is post content that is just fun,

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interesting, funny, like a game of some sort, and then hook people kind

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of with that sort of piece of content and then hopefully drive them deeper down your funnel,

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which you will eventually get them to more spiritual content and, and hopefully you'll get them to a long form version of your spiritual content, which from there you can hopefully,

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just like you would live in the room, just like you would live with the sermon.

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Prompt them to take some sort of meaningful next step closer to Jesus. My new favorite phenomenon for churches and for youth ministries is to create content

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with my students, not just content

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for my students.

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Generation Z and subsequently Generation Alpha are looking for the personal touch. They've they've grown up under the rise of customization generation. Alpha is going to be growing up under the rise of personalization with algorithms and AI and things that can make life just very tailored to them.

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And so they don't want to necessarily get on their social media and see a

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bunch of stuff that I have done for them. They would rather get on social media and see a bunch of stuff

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that they have had an opportunity to participate in.

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And so a couple years ago, my resident Caleb, linked right here is my interview with him.

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And in it, we actually talked for a little while about this concept called the social challenge. And so where this came birthed out of is in our student ministry, we have a very, very vibrant YouTube channel. It's probably the social media platform that

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I pour the most gas on. If you want to see our strategy link down below is my completely free e-book strategy guide, detailing and outline every single thing I do from silly posting videos, long form version, pieces of content.

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It will help you take an adapter and make that possible in your context. But we were talking through a

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YouTube channel, which is mostly just teaching videos, and he wanted to include more students

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on our longform, teaching videos section of YouTube. You know, YouTube is broken into different like containers. You got you got

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posts and you got shorts and you got videos and you got lives.

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And so he's like, I want more students. I

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think it'd be good if there were more students on the video portion. And not just us staff, people with teaching videos. And I was like, okay, great. So he invented this thing called the social Challenge. And the social challenge became a huge win for us in our student ministry in multiple arenas.

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But early on, it would just be him or maybe him, and like another one of our students or him and another one of our interns filming some, some students doing some sort of challenge, just think like any sort of

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youth group game. And then they would just capture it on camera. And so that was on a Wednesday night.

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Our team, we don't work on Fridays. And so he would come into the office

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on Thursday and he would edit all day long to try and get that thing ready to go. And then from there, he would get that thing posted and off he would go, putting our students on, on the YouTube channel. Well,

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over time, that just became hefty every single week with a Thursday all day edit like that was the only thing he had like really bandwidth for it to do.

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On Thursday. And so we let that thing run for about a semester. And then we made an adjustment. And I said, what if we,

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Because in the meantime, we were filming short form, vertical based video content with our staff, and we would film like once a month, and we would get together and we would do some of these ideas.

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And one of the ones I'm about to share with you here in just a minute, and we would, we were filming for us

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and I was like, what if we put students behind that camera? And so that's what we did. And so my favorite, we do in our studio. Mr.. Now we've honed it in where we do four different types of social challenges.

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And so most months are made up of four different weeks and so on week one we'll do this week two do that, week three we'll do that. Link four we'll do that. Or we'll just do

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whatever is running low. And so I have every single thing, every single piece of content stored

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in a Google Drive. And I can see as I post daily, I can see which of these pieces of content I'm running

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out of, and then thus which ones we need to film more of on the next Wednesday night.

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Some of the other advantages youth pastors that this has had

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is this has created a space in our student ministry for students to come and let their voice be heard, and for them to actually get a chance to be on social media themselves. And then

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they're actually looking for it later on down the road, like, when are you going to post my video?

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Let me know. And it was funny, last week I actually pulled a kid aside and said, hey, I'm

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posting yours tomorrow. And so then he texted me. I didn't send him the link or anything like that, but he texted me. He's like, that was good, you know, typical seventh grade boy. But, he he reached out of his own accord.

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Right. Once he saw his video had been posted online. And so it's had some major wins for us in the room. It's actually made like our in person, a little bit more, intimate, like it's made our students actually get to interact with and know each other a little bit more. And so that's our current adaptation. We just batch record our students any given Wednesday

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night, with these different for social media ideas, I'm going to share with you in this video playlist.

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The first video idea that we do, it's called drafts. Now, you've probably seen or heard these before in if you've ever been on social media, all kinds of different people have done them. And I'm not, you know, claiming to be the the author of this idea, we have no doubt seen, we're taking

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this, you know, from other people, we've seen it done elsewhere, and we've adapted it to our culture

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and to our context.

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But essentially what it is is you choose, like

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any topic, literally any topic in the world that has at least ten or more options. And the reason you need ten or more is because it's it's sort of treated like a, like sports or like a basketball type thing where you draft somebody, to your starting five. And so if you and if you and I were doing this, you might go first in any particular category, let's just say,

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let's just say basketball players, you know, for example, by the way, link down below in the description I have shared with you, like over 100 different draft topic ideas

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as well as a

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gear resource list. So go ahead and click that link and go grab it. You can just have it and then you can take these and kind of copy and paste them and implement them into your church and into

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your social media strategy. But if you're going first, maybe you're Michael Jordan guy. So you take Michael Jordan, but then you go to me and it'd be my pick.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the only thing I couldn't take is Michael Jordan. I could take any other basketball player I wanted to. I could take LeBron James. I can also take Bronny James. It doesn't matter. I could take whoever I want. So I'll go LeBron. And then back to you. You might think that the third greatest player of all time is like Magic Johnson.

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And that's fair. I'll go ahead and give you like thumbs up on that. Come back to me. I'll probably take like Larry Bird or something like that. Back over to you. Let's say you take, maybe you're a big Bulls guy. Maybe you take Scottie Pippen. Great. That's fine. I don't agree with that necessarily. But I appreciate you trying back over to me.

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I probably go doctor J. Or Wilt Chamberlain maybe. I think, and as I'm doing this, I'm commentating it, right. I'm like, you know, I'm thinking this thing that, and so I'll go ahead. I'll take I'll take, I'll, I'll end up taking wilt. No no no no no no. What am I doing? I'll take Shaq I'll take Shaq back over to you.

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And you're like, all right, fine, I'll take Kobe. Great. That's great. Back over to me now. I'll take wilt okay. And I'm not now like building a team to play with. And you can set those parameters because I can't have Will and Shaq playing on the same team that both centers. Right. Back over to you. Maybe you're going to take like a modern guy.

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Maybe you're going to go like Kevin Durant or something like that. And I think that would be fair. Back over to me if I wanted to take a modern guy. Though I don't think he's, top ten of all time, but I do think it's great. Shaq good. So Alexander represent Oklahoma City Thunder. That's my favorite basketball team.

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And then what you do then is you'd say, hey, let us know. Comment down below who you think won okay. Now in that particular case, everyone watching would definitely say that I won. But maybe you got some big, Bulls fans, some some people from Chicago watching your content. Maybe they would say that you won, and they would say that you picked all the goats and Kobe Bryant and Scottie Pippen and all the other people, right?

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Like,

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whatever the case might be, but you just literally go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Another option you can do is you can snake it in

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so if you don't know, it's like, first person, second person, second person, first person, first person, second person, second person. That's the concept of a snake draft.

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I don't

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I don't do that as much in like a two person draft because, it's just like 12X2X2X2X2, and then it ends with one. I'd rather just kind of do the bounce back, but either way, your choice, your decision, you figure out which you prefer. And then

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I need to edit that sucker. And so typically when I do it with anyone on my staff, those drafts end up being like, five minutes,

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because there's a fair bit of banter.

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And we're sort of like, gassing people for, like, what they said, or slamming them for how bad we thought the choices were.

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And either way, we're kind of going back and forth, making fun of each other. And so that you have you have some decisions to make

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in the editing process, right? You got to get it down for me, I try to get every video under 60s because YouTube shorts is cap is 60s.

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And so if I can get it under 60, then that means I can post it on YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram Reels and Facebook Reels all four places.

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Now, if you don't want to use YouTube shorts though, if you're trying to reach teenagers, can I please implore you to consider using it? 95% of teenagers are on YouTube, and so if you are in youth ministry, you should definitely be using YouTube, and thus you should also

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be using YouTube shorts.

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But if you don't want to use YouTube, then you can make it longer because those other platforms allow for longer, time segments of videos. And you can

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edit it directly on your phone. My edits, it look like this. If you're watching here on YouTube. I'll also share with you my Photoshop template in that,

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free downloadable document where I am sharing, you know, all the different hundreds of ideas of draft, topics and content that you can use.

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But, if you don't have Photoshop, you can literally design this, in anything. You can design it on TikTok, in the TikTok editor. You can design it on an app like Cap Cut for the free version or the paid version. You can use it on Instagram Reels. Editor. Like it's literally the sky is the limit on where you can edit it.

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I like to edit in

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Adobe Premiere Pro, so I use Adobe Photoshop, and then I import those files into Adobe Premiere Pro and the good news in all of this is that for a while I started doing it. And then, homeschool kids are

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the best in our student ministry because they obviously they they don't go to school for as long during the day when they do homeschool.

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And I can have

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them come in and they can use, one of our spare computers that has Adobe Premiere Pro loaded on it. And I've been just teaching them how to use Adobe Photoshop, how to use Adobe Premiere Pro.

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And I had a student, I kid you not, who he took all of, one of our other, like, video tape adaptations.

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We had like, like 12

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of them, and he edited every single one of them, like in one sitting. He he came in. It was like

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his maybe fifth time in, And so he had to, like, learn and get up to speed on that fifth time. I mean, he just

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crushed them to the point where he was loving editing.

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And then he said to me, hey, can I come in tomorrow? And I was like, bro, you've done them all.

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And before I was getting students to come in and edit, I was editing them all myself, every single one. And so I was always behind. I never was caught up and he got me completely caught up. And now the other good news in all of this is that in addition to students editing it and getting them posted, I've also had students begin to take ownership and leadership in the room of where we're filming this thing.

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So we've actually built a full studio. You can see link down below, our studio tour and all the gear that we use, but sometimes we just use like a camera on the back of a cell phone and like external microphones. Other times we use like full podcast studio type microphones and run that into like a focus right camera.

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And we filmed it off our Sony ZV ten. Again, all of that is linked in that, studio tour episode. If you want to look at any of that purchase, any of that. And then if you do have your phone, you can just edit it directly off your phone. If you do it off of a camera, you got to take out the SD card and then download it and then go edit it in some sort of software on your computer.

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Again, either one of those strategies is fine. You decide what you want, you can do a really heavy edit, or you can do a really minimal edit like either of those. Either of those strategies works, and you can kind of do whatever works best for you and your, your time frame. Right. But once those students, edit those, I also have students capturing them or I have them running the room.

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I have them, getting students in place. I have them literally running, like, action and, like, clapping their hands. And, it was actually really helpful because one week when we were filming a bunch of, these draft style videos, the camera audio cut out, but I got all the mic audio, but I was like, how am I going to sync up empty words?

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To real audio? And because of the claps, I was able to find the clap on the camera, link up that spike, and then they were able to be to be linked. And so, I at this point in time, like this, this strategy, this four part video strategy, students are running it on Wednesday nights capturing the videos, and then students are editing it and all I'm doing is overseeing it and posting it.

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And so my guess would be, if you're in

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youth ministry and you want to create content with your students, that this is what you're looking for because you may not feel equipped, you may not feel like you have, what it takes or even the knowledge behind social media in your students. They do, they do. And if you're willing to build the infrastructure enough to then be able to hand that over to them, I think that's a fantastic model and it takes more work off of your

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plate.

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And so if you're interested in exploring, how to do that or even just looking for maybe like some some next steps, I offer a coaching link down below. Reach out about that is really affordable, is really cheap, and I would love to help you get that up and running. Now on to easy social media video idea number two.

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I'm glad that you asked because I'm sure you were looking for it. It's actually going to be linked here on screen in the very next video, which I have here on my channel. So go ahead and tap that. Go check that one out. And without any further ado, we will see you over there because we are making digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Easy social media ideas for churches and for youth ministries.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. I am your host, Nick place, and we are looking to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. My strategy for social media in 2024,

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and it's looking like beyond if you didn't know this. Short form vertical based videos or reels?

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TikToks YouTube shorts account for 90% of the internet's traffic, which is just a wildly high

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statistic. And so people are getting on the internet to consume these styles of videos. And so we as churches, as communicators, as people who want to have an impact in our world, we need to be on these platforms. And so if you do want to be on social media, I recommend taking that strategic approach, posting those types of videos.

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And I also recommend not just posting only spiritual content. So one of the funnest things to do is post content that is just fun,

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interesting, funny, like a game of some sort, and then hook people kind

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of with that sort of piece of content and then hopefully drive them deeper down your funnel,

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which you will eventually get them to more spiritual content and, and hopefully you'll get them to a long form version of your spiritual content, which from there you can hopefully,

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just like you would live in the room, just like you would live with the sermon.

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Prompt them to take some sort of meaningful next step closer to Jesus. My new favorite phenomenon for churches and for youth ministries is to create content

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with my students, not just content

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for my students.

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Generation Z and subsequently Generation Alpha are looking for the personal touch. They've they've grown up under the rise of customization generation. Alpha is going to be growing up under the rise of personalization with algorithms and AI and things that can make life just very tailored to them.

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And so they don't want to necessarily get on their social media and see a

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bunch of stuff that I have done for them. They would rather get on social media and see a bunch of stuff

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that they have had an opportunity to participate in.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so a couple years ago, my resident Caleb, linked right here is my interview with him.

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And in it, we actually talked for a little while about this concept called the social challenge. And so where this came birthed out of is in our student ministry, we have a very, very vibrant YouTube channel. It's probably the social media platform that

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I pour the most gas on. If you want to see our strategy link down below is my completely free e-book strategy guide, detailing and outline every single thing I do from silly posting videos, long form version, pieces of content.

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It will help you take an adapter and make that possible in your context. But we were talking through a

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YouTube channel, which is mostly just teaching videos, and he wanted to include more students

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on our longform, teaching videos section of YouTube. You know, YouTube is broken into different like containers. You got you got

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posts and you got shorts and you got videos and you got lives.

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And so he's like, I want more students. I

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think it'd be good if there were more students on the video portion. And not just us staff, people with teaching videos. And I was like, okay, great. So he invented this thing called the social Challenge. And the social challenge became a huge win for us in our student ministry in multiple arenas.

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But early on, it would just be him or maybe him, and like another one of our students or him and another one of our interns filming some, some students doing some sort of challenge, just think like any sort of

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youth group game. And then they would just capture it on camera. And so that was on a Wednesday night.

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Our team, we don't work on Fridays. And so he would come into the office

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on Thursday and he would edit all day long to try and get that thing ready to go. And then from there, he would get that thing posted and off he would go, putting our students on, on the YouTube channel. Well,

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over time, that just became hefty every single week with a Thursday all day edit like that was the only thing he had like really bandwidth for it to do.

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On Thursday. And so we let that thing run for about a semester. And then we made an adjustment. And I said, what if we,

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Because in the meantime, we were filming short form, vertical based video content with our staff, and we would film like once a month, and we would get together and we would do some of these ideas.

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And one of the ones I'm about to share with you here in just a minute, and we would, we were filming for us

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and I was like, what if we put students behind that camera? And so that's what we did. And so my favorite, we do in our studio. Mr.. Now we've honed it in where we do four different types of social challenges.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so most months are made up of four different weeks and so on week one we'll do this week two do that, week three we'll do that. Link four we'll do that. Or we'll just do

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whatever is running low. And so I have every single thing, every single piece of content stored

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in a Google Drive. And I can see as I post daily, I can see which of these pieces of content I'm running

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out of, and then thus which ones we need to film more of on the next Wednesday night.

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Some of the other advantages youth pastors that this has had

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is this has created a space in our student ministry for students to come and let their voice be heard, and for them to actually get a chance to be on social media themselves. And then

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they're actually looking for it later on down the road, like, when are you going to post my video?

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Let me know. And it was funny, last week I actually pulled a kid aside and said, hey, I'm

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posting yours tomorrow. And so then he texted me. I didn't send him the link or anything like that, but he texted me. He's like, that was good, you know, typical seventh grade boy. But, he he reached out of his own accord.

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Right. Once he saw his video had been posted online. And so it's had some major wins for us in the room. It's actually made like our in person, a little bit more, intimate, like it's made our students actually get to interact with and know each other a little bit more. And so that's our current adaptation. We just batch record our students any given Wednesday

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night, with these different for social media ideas, I'm going to share with you in this video playlist.

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The first video idea that we do, it's called drafts. Now, you've probably seen or heard these before in if you've ever been on social media, all kinds of different people have done them. And I'm not, you know, claiming to be the the author of this idea, we have no doubt seen, we're taking

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this, you know, from other people, we've seen it done elsewhere, and we've adapted it to our culture

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and to our context.

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But essentially what it is is you choose, like

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any topic, literally any topic in the world that has at least ten or more options. And the reason you need ten or more is because it's it's sort of treated like a, like sports or like a basketball type thing where you draft somebody, to your starting five. And so if you and if you and I were doing this, you might go first in any particular category, let's just say,

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let's just say basketball players, you know, for example, by the way, link down below in the description I have shared with you, like over 100 different draft topic ideas

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as well as a

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gear resource list. So go ahead and click that link and go grab it. You can just have it and then you can take these and kind of copy and paste them and implement them into your church and into

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your social media strategy. But if you're going first, maybe you're Michael Jordan guy. So you take Michael Jordan, but then you go to me and it'd be my pick.

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And the only thing I couldn't take is Michael Jordan. I could take any other basketball player I wanted to. I could take LeBron James. I can also take Bronny James. It doesn't matter. I could take whoever I want. So I'll go LeBron. And then back to you. You might think that the third greatest player of all time is like Magic Johnson.

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And that's fair. I'll go ahead and give you like thumbs up on that. Come back to me. I'll probably take like Larry Bird or something like that. Back over to you. Let's say you take, maybe you're a big Bulls guy. Maybe you take Scottie Pippen. Great. That's fine. I don't agree with that necessarily. But I appreciate you trying back over to me.

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I probably go doctor J. Or Wilt Chamberlain maybe. I think, and as I'm doing this, I'm commentating it, right. I'm like, you know, I'm thinking this thing that, and so I'll go ahead. I'll take I'll take, I'll, I'll end up taking wilt. No no no no no no. What am I doing? I'll take Shaq I'll take Shaq back over to you.

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And you're like, all right, fine, I'll take Kobe. Great. That's great. Back over to me now. I'll take wilt okay. And I'm not now like building a team to play with. And you can set those parameters because I can't have Will and Shaq playing on the same team that both centers. Right. Back over to you. Maybe you're going to take like a modern guy.

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Maybe you're going to go like Kevin Durant or something like that. And I think that would be fair. Back over to me if I wanted to take a modern guy. Though I don't think he's, top ten of all time, but I do think it's great. Shaq good. So Alexander represent Oklahoma City Thunder. That's my favorite basketball team.

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And then what you do then is you'd say, hey, let us know. Comment down below who you think won okay. Now in that particular case, everyone watching would definitely say that I won. But maybe you got some big, Bulls fans, some some people from Chicago watching your content. Maybe they would say that you won, and they would say that you picked all the goats and Kobe Bryant and Scottie Pippen and all the other people, right?

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Like,

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whatever the case might be, but you just literally go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Another option you can do is you can snake it in

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so if you don't know, it's like, first person, second person, second person, first person, first person, second person, second person. That's the concept of a snake draft.

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I don't

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I don't do that as much in like a two person draft because, it's just like 12X2X2X2X2, and then it ends with one. I'd rather just kind of do the bounce back, but either way, your choice, your decision, you figure out which you prefer. And then

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I need to edit that sucker. And so typically when I do it with anyone on my staff, those drafts end up being like, five minutes,

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because there's a fair bit of banter.

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And we're sort of like, gassing people for, like, what they said, or slamming them for how bad we thought the choices were.

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And either way, we're kind of going back and forth, making fun of each other. And so that you have you have some decisions to make

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in the editing process, right? You got to get it down for me, I try to get every video under 60s because YouTube shorts is cap is 60s.

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And so if I can get it under 60, then that means I can post it on YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram Reels and Facebook Reels all four places.

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Now, if you don't want to use YouTube shorts though, if you're trying to reach teenagers, can I please implore you to consider using it? 95% of teenagers are on YouTube, and so if you are in youth ministry, you should definitely be using YouTube, and thus you should also

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be using YouTube shorts.

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But if you don't want to use YouTube, then you can make it longer because those other platforms allow for longer, time segments of videos. And you can

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edit it directly on your phone. My edits, it look like this. If you're watching here on YouTube. I'll also share with you my Photoshop template in that,

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free downloadable document where I am sharing, you know, all the different hundreds of ideas of draft, topics and content that you can use.

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But, if you don't have Photoshop, you can literally design this, in anything. You can design it on TikTok, in the TikTok editor. You can design it on an app like Cap Cut for the free version or the paid version. You can use it on Instagram Reels. Editor. Like it's literally the sky is the limit on where you can edit it.

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I like to edit in

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Adobe Premiere Pro, so I use Adobe Photoshop, and then I import those files into Adobe Premiere Pro and the good news in all of this is that for a while I started doing it. And then, homeschool kids are

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the best in our student ministry because they obviously they they don't go to school for as long during the day when they do homeschool.

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And I can have

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them come in and they can use, one of our spare computers that has Adobe Premiere Pro loaded on it. And I've been just teaching them how to use Adobe Photoshop, how to use Adobe Premiere Pro.

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And I had a student, I kid you not, who he took all of, one of our other, like, video tape adaptations.

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We had like, like 12

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of them, and he edited every single one of them, like in one sitting. He he came in. It was like

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his maybe fifth time in, And so he had to, like, learn and get up to speed on that fifth time. I mean, he just

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crushed them to the point where he was loving editing.

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And then he said to me, hey, can I come in tomorrow? And I was like, bro, you've done them all.

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And before I was getting students to come in and edit, I was editing them all myself, every single one. And so I was always behind. I never was caught up and he got me completely caught up. And now the other good news in all of this is that in addition to students editing it and getting them posted, I've also had students begin to take ownership and leadership in the room of where we're filming this thing.

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So we've actually built a full studio. You can see link down below, our studio tour and all the gear that we use, but sometimes we just use like a camera on the back of a cell phone and like external microphones. Other times we use like full podcast studio type microphones and run that into like a focus right camera.

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And we filmed it off our Sony ZV ten. Again, all of that is linked in that, studio tour episode. If you want to look at any of that purchase, any of that. And then if you do have your phone, you can just edit it directly off your phone. If you do it off of a camera, you got to take out the SD card and then download it and then go edit it in some sort of software on your computer.

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Again, either one of those strategies is fine. You decide what you want, you can do a really heavy edit, or you can do a really minimal edit like either of those. Either of those strategies works, and you can kind of do whatever works best for you and your, your time frame. Right. But once those students, edit those, I also have students capturing them or I have them running the room.

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I have them, getting students in place. I have them literally running, like, action and, like, clapping their hands. And, it was actually really helpful because one week when we were filming a bunch of, these draft style videos, the camera audio cut out, but I got all the mic audio, but I was like, how am I going to sync up empty words?

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To real audio? And because of the claps, I was able to find the clap on the camera, link up that spike, and then they were able to be to be linked. And so, I at this point in time, like this, this strategy, this four part video strategy, students are running it on Wednesday nights capturing the videos, and then students are editing it and all I'm doing is overseeing it and posting it.

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And so my guess would be, if you're in

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youth ministry and you want to create content with your students, that this is what you're looking for because you may not feel equipped, you may not feel like you have, what it takes or even the knowledge behind social media in your students. They do, they do. And if you're willing to build the infrastructure enough to then be able to hand that over to them, I think that's a fantastic model and it takes more work off of your

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plate.

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And so if you're interested in exploring, how to do that or even just looking for maybe like some some next steps, I offer a coaching link down below. Reach out about that is really affordable, is really cheap, and I would love to help you get that up and running. Now on to easy social media video idea number two.

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I'm glad that you asked because I'm sure you were looking for it. It's actually going to be linked here on screen in the very next video, which I have here on my channel. So go ahead and tap that. Go check that one out. And without any further ado, we will see you over there because we are making digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible.

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And so as always, don't ever forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 111: Better Event Promotion: Without Promoting on Social https://www.hybridministry.xyz/111 c8782eae-e1ea-49de-b99c-c09bbdf01927 Thu, 22 Aug 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 111 Better Event Promotion: Without Promoting on Social full Nick Clason We all want more people at our events, but how do we get more people at our events without promoting things to Social? In this episode Nick and Erik, fellow youth pastor and youtuber, sit down to discuss better event promotion as a part 2 in this super mashup episode exploring the value of outreach events and how to get the word out. In this episode we'll explore a better more wholistic social media strategy for 2024 and beyond, as well as how to write better emails and create a culture of invite amongst students in your youth ministry. Finally, we'll explore how to build out a social media and hybrid strategy for your 2024 youth ministry school year. Tap in to check it out! 24:09 no ๐Ÿ”ฅ Social Media templates for Churches๐Ÿ”ฅ https://share.hsforms.com/1UrHggOX1Q3mH_A3F3f8dWwnumis ๐Ÿ’ฅErik w/a "k" Channel [Practical Youth Ministry Tips]๐Ÿ’ฅ www.youtube.com/@practicalyouthministrytips ====================================== DESCRIPTION We all want more people at our events, but how do we get more people at our events without promoting things to Social? In this episode Nick and Erik, fellow youth pastor and youtuber, sit down to discuss better event promotion as a part 2 (Check out Part 1: erikyoutubechannel.com) of this super mashup episode exploring the value of outreach events and how to get the word out. In this episode we'll explore a better more wholistic social media strategy for 2024 and beyond, as well as how to write better emails and create a culture of invite amongst students in your youth ministry. Finally, we'll explore how to build out a social media and hybrid strategy for your 2024 youth ministry school year. 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Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And in this episode we're going to talk about better event promotion as well as a holistic digital and social media approach for your church and your youth ministry. And this is actually part two. Part one is linked right here at the top of the screen over on another channel, because we're doing a massive mash up collab. 00;00;24;28 - 00;00;49;07 Nick Clason And I am joined today by my friend Erik with the K Erik. Erik w/a "k" Williams Good morning bro. How you doing? Good to see you Nick. So excited to be on your channel. Love what you're doing bro. So so good. Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right? 00;00;49;08 - 00;01;08;17 Nick Clason Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right? You gave out a bunch of games. You gave out a full run sheet on, like how to do a great outreach style event at your church. And one major piece, right? In all of that, in churches and in youth ministry is promotion. We want people to come to our event. It's natural. It's a human nature, you know what I mean? 00;01;08;20 - 00;01;31;07 Nick Clason And so one of the ways that we're always trying to get people to come to our event is through social media. Yeah. Is that not a normal like strategies and a normal thought process? Erik, for the average American youth pastor. Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally I've totally used social media to promote events like for a long time. Yeah. 00;01;31;13 - 00;02;03;02 Nick Clason And is it effective? Erik w/a "k" Williams I don't see a lot of likes on those posts. Yeah. And, I don't know, I'm not seeing, sharing and whatever. Yeah, I think I think it's just if, like if you look at in the past, a lot of my social media stuff for youth ministry, it tends to be mostly promotional. Okay. And watching your channel, one of the things I've learned is that's not a great idea because then it's just promotion. 00;02;03;02 - 00;02;25;00 Erik w/a "k" Williams And it's not like, hey, because I looked at this, I'm going to get 20% off my next event, right? Right. It's just an announcement. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I am trying to steer youth pastors, church communicators away from, because if we're not careful, we're going to view social media as another announcement channel. And it's really not built for that. 00;02;25;00 - 00;02;46;06 Nick Clason And if you treat it that way, it's not going to be incredibly successful. And so you should still get the word out and you can still use social media. But before you do, I want you to tweak and adjust your strategy on it. And so the first I have three ideas for better event promotion for your event, Erik, that we just talked through. 00;02;46;14 - 00;03;07;00 Nick Clason The first one is don't post announcements announcing announcing it on social media. And what I mean by that in particular, because I'm going to get a little nuanced here, is I still think you can and should announce it, but don't just post your graphic that you cooked up on Canva or on Instagram Stories or wherever you cooked it up. 00;03;07;00 - 00;03;27;22 Nick Clason Like, don't just post that because you will probably see as you see, as you said, two, three, six likes on it and likes aren't the only metric, you know, get the word across. Of course, like people will still see it. But you got to think about, our habits. Why do you, Erik, why do you get on social media? 00;03;27;24 - 00;03;48;25 Erik w/a "k" Williams I want to be entertained, all right? I want to catch up with people, but I want to. I want to be entertained. That's. It's one of the things I love scrolling. Super. Particularly scrolling through videos. Right? Is I want it to be funny. Yeah, yeah. And, if you're watching this live, the month of August, your download youth ministry, I think it's like, God, an up or maybe silver and on up. 00;03;48;27 - 00;04;04;17 Nick Clason I provided the mystery item for the members, and it was a let's go free e-book on how to crush your social media. And so one of the concepts in there, and if you know you're not a member or you missed the download perk, I'll drop a link in there. You can get it for just a few bucks, down below in the description. 00;04;04;17 - 00;04;27;05 Nick Clason But one of the stats I included is that reels or short form vertical video TikTok style videos account for get this 90% of the internet's traffic. And so you're right, we get on social media to to be entertained or even to be inspired, maybe learn some stuff, but we don't get on there to catch up on our announcements, to catch up on what's the latest on our church. 00;04;27;05 - 00;04;52;20 Nick Clason So stop posting static announcement graphics and start posting the types of content that people get on social media for i.e short form vertical based video. If you make it less than 60 seconds, you can post it on any of your social platforms including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and even YouTube shorts. And so if you are going to post about an event, I would recommend two styles of posts. 00;04;52;20 - 00;05;13;29 Erik w/a "k" Williams So there's one. It's like the cap cut meme. Have you seen this before? The different cap cut style memes? absolutely. Lovely. I'm not. I haven't really gotten into using them yet much. Yeah, but I love I love using that like the, the the one where the guy who is The Mandalorian, I forget his name. Yeah. where he's laughing. 00;05;13;29 - 00;05;32;05 Nick Clason Yep. Like really hard with that other guy. Like, I love that meme where you, you can put stuff in the background, right? Because it's kind of green screen concept. so, so good. Yeah. So find a way to, to catch the wave of a trending kind of like cap cut meme. And if you don't know, ask one of your teenagers, they'll help you. 00;05;32;08 - 00;05;53;15 Erik w/a "k" Williams Speaking of speaking of cap cut, like, That's something. Now I use Final Cut to do most of my video editing. Yep. But when I'm doing, stuff with my phone, like, I do, like, screen like words on the screen, all that stuff, I use cap cut all the time. So last year I decided to invest in paying for it's a yearly fee. 00;05;53;18 - 00;06;19;17 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think it's like 75 bucks. Typically. They almost always have some sort of save a certain percentage off. So I paid 50 bucks last year. I just got a reminder that my subscriptions almost out. So they're giving me a 36%, 34, 36% off of the yearly yearly fee. So grab those, grab those discounts when you can. But for me, it's been a totally worth it expense because I use it all the time. 00;06;19;20 - 00;06;39;27 Nick Clason Yeah. And and I don't pay for it. My youth, ministry, doesn't pay for it. So I'm still using the free version, and you can still get a lot out of of cap cut, even if you don't want to go that paid for out. So the other one, the other idea I have, and these are like on the rise right now with in churches and stuff, are the like, transition videos. 00;06;39;29 - 00;07;00;07 Nick Clason and I don't know the other way to, to describe them, but essentially it starts with, a video like, a popular video of some sort. And the one I've seen a lot recently is the guy running away from, like, a bull in the streets. It must be like a running of the bulls thing in Spain or whatever, and he gets speared in the back and so on screen. 00;07;00;07 - 00;07;22;07 Nick Clason You see, this guy just gets speared right in the back and just fly forward, and then it cuts out to your church or another church and some dude or girl getting, I guess, jumping or thrown into like the row of chairs. And then they like, you know, get up all, like, hurt and then turn around, look at the camera and they invite, you know, invite to church. 00;07;22;07 - 00;07;40;23 Nick Clason And so there are, you know, a bunch of different ones of those. And I discovered there's so many more than I even thought, because I got on one of my accounts and I started just kind of creating a library of them, sharing them over to my church account. And the more I shared them, the more the algorithm kept feeding me those. 00;07;40;25 - 00;08;04;07 Nick Clason And so now I've gone around with students and stuff and I'm like, hey, film this, walk into this chair or dive into these. These couches, or, you know, we'll spill one of the other ones. There's like a baby puking on screen and you see all the puke come out and then it like it dive the the milk dumps into the cup and you hear the little splash, and then someone takes a drink of it and it's like there's always free coffee at church. 00;08;04;07 - 00;08;27;02 Erik w/a "k" Williams Something like that. Like, oh, so gross, so gross, but so funny. And, really, really popular right now. And so that's another way to invite someone to your event, but again, in a way that leans into what social media is built for and made for. Yeah, I love the one where somebody is running and jumping does like a cannonball into into, a pool. 00;08;27;08 - 00;08;53;03 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah. And then the next scene is like sugar cube dropping into a cup and it's like, yeah, like much smaller. Yeah. They're just funny. And again, you can still get the word out, but with like a little tweak. Right, a little adjustment. Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic but include faces on social media include entertainment and entertainment style elements on social media. 00;08;53;03 - 00;09;10;27 Nick Clason So that's that's my first kind of point. Do you have anything else to add there before we I just say, Erik w/a "k" Williams you know, you just said it in to include faces like students love to see themselves. Yep. I think that's brilliant. The more you can get students in there instead of just you same face over and over, talking head kind of thing all the time. 00;09;10;29 - 00;09;27;21 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think that's brilliant. I love that dude. Yeah. And in addition to my doing my book, I got one here on my channel as well. It's free. It's down. The show notes. It will lay out this whole, this whole thing. So if you haven't grabbed it yet, go check that out. My site. I just want to support that, by the way, because that's I've downloaded that. 00;09;27;21 - 00;09;54;18 Erik w/a "k" Williams That's been super, super helpful to me. You give so much inside of that e-book, bro. I absolutely love it. Well I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm sure help churches do better and get the word out that. What's up everyone Nicholas in here hopping into the middle of this episode to say that as I was ending it, I got this idea that I just wanted to give you my top six favorite transition videos and my top six favorite cap cut template. 00;09;54;18 - 00;10;14;10 Nick Clason So if you hit up the link down below in the description and YouTube, it will give you a word document. it will just, the form will drop it into a drop box for download that word document, and it will give you six links to the Instagram videos, six links to the cap cut videos, as well as websites that you can use. 00;10;14;10 - 00;10;37;22 Nick Clason Once you post those to either TikTok or to Instagram that you can download directly from that social channel, and then repost it without the tick tock or Instagram Reels watermark. out to Facebook or YouTube or wherever else you want to cross post things. I hope it's helpful to use these in your next event promotion. Without any further ado, back to the rest of them. 00;10;37;23 - 00;10;56;22 Nick Clason So that's the whole goal of it. Yeah. Speaking. Getting better, getting the word out. write better emails. People like, if you're anything like me or any of the churches I've been in, we've done things like, you know, such and such church weekly student ministry update. And then in that, of course, you're like announcing your back to school event. 00;10;56;22 - 00;11;17;29 Nick Clason You're announcing your costume party around Halloween time, you're announcing your Friendsgiving event. But nobody, who doesn't if they don't open the email, they don't read that content, they don't see it. And so it misses them. And so a new idea I had, and this is relevant because it just happened to me this week at our church, in our children's ministry. 00;11;18;02 - 00;11;39;00 Nick Clason They were having an event I didn't know about. And the the subject is, you know, my church's kids ministry update, and I never read them. Guilty. All right, I work there. I'm a dad of kids in the ministry, but I never read them because I figure there's really nothing new in there. But there was something new, but I didn't open it. 00;11;39;02 - 00;11;54;09 Nick Clason And you can look at it two ways. I'm I'm to blame or they're to blame. And most churches would be like, I'm to blame because they look back at open rates and they see that they're really low and they're like, well, you don't know what's going on because you don't open it. All of that is true. Guilty as charged. 00;11;54;12 - 00;12;30;06 Nick Clason However, no, this most open rates, like a good open rate for like a business is like in the 20 to 30%. And so if you're a church, yeah, you're probably higher than that. But if you start putting some of what's going on, even in the subject of the email, even if people don't open it, then if their eyes ever glance through their inbox and they ignore your emails, but they still take a glance or a gander over at the subject, they'll at least be aware of what's going on in your in your youth ministry, and so you can prevent your outreach event to your parents and to any of the students who are subscribed to 00;12;30;06 - 00;12;51;22 Erik w/a "k" Williams your email list with just better subjects and intake in inside of that when they open the email. Because, I mean, I've been guilty of this. I've seen I've been on emails from churches that it feels like I mean, you've got a template which I think is good to have a template. So you have to keep recreating something every single week. 00;12;51;24 - 00;13;15;06 Nick Clason But it sometimes it can feel like I've seen all this information every single week. so I don't even bother opening. Yeah. Anything you could do to to kind of freshen inside of the email. Yeah. I mean, and you don't want to get clickbaity or sensational, right. But the more interesting your subject is, the the the more prone people are to open it. 00;13;15;09 - 00;13;33;08 Nick Clason Keep in mind, too, that people want to people want to just like, social media. They want to interact with people. So if they're getting it from your ministry, like they they may be a bot in parent or student that wants to know what's going on in your ministry, but that's not enticing to them to correspond with the brand of your ministry. 00;13;33;11 - 00;13;52;19 Nick Clason So send it from your name. Send it from your senior pastor's name. Like those types of things, you will see an uptick in engagement in that way. If it feels personal, like they're getting an email from a person as opposed to getting an email from an organization. So. Good. Yeah. the third thing, and I don't want to belabor it because we did we hit it in your episode. 00;13;52;19 - 00;14;15;24 Nick Clason So go check that out. But really, I think the key to getting more people to your event, beyond just promoting it on social media, is really like creating a culture of invite, where students from your church will invite their friends to your church and you got to build that culture and over time it's going to take time. So if you're brand new, like just keep working it, keep working the soil, keep doing the thing. 00;14;15;27 - 00;14;36;05 Nick Clason Create a safe space that your students know they can trust you. If they bring a friend to an event, you're not going to do something weird on them, and you got to do that a few times to prove it, to prove to your students that you're going to do that. But then eventually they'll start to realize that, like, oh, this is going to be a safe place and a safe event for me to bring my friend to. 00;14;36;07 - 00;14;57;26 Nick Clason And they will start bringing students. And you know how it is like a word of mouth invite is so much more valuable than, static graphic that they scroll across on social media. Yeah, I think I think so. I mean, if you're if you run lame events, that word is going to get out to a. Right. So you want it's got to be a good event and that invite culture. 00;14;57;26 - 00;15;24;00 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think is an interesting conversation. And I just want to say a real quick thing about it. Nick. Yeah, is I remember when I came to a church and, we had this annual event that had been happening for a long time, and, the high schoolers were coming because it's really, like, competitive. experience. So there was there was like, students were showing up no matter what. 00;15;24;03 - 00;15;58;19 Erik w/a "k" Williams But the middle schoolers, we hardly had any middle schoolers that were showing up. And so we talked about that, like, why is that? But there wasn't a there wasn't a culture of invitation. So we at that, that meant we had to do groundwork within the youth ministry to go, okay, there's an importance for our students that come regularly to understand they they need to be inviting their friends, because this is an easy, open opportunity for them to be able to share their faith with their friends by letting somebody else kind of set the groundwork for it. 00;15;58;19 - 00;16;14;06 Erik w/a "k" Williams They show up to something fun. Then they have this conversation, then in the car ride home or whatever. Hey, I know we had a lot of fun with some highlights, but but it was so fun. Were telling your parents whatever, but what was something that you heard the the youth pastor talk about this? What did you think about that. 00;16;14;09 - 00;16;39;09 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah. And then having that conversation. So setting them up for success, if you will, rather than just show up and and do it and then don't ever talk about it again. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And that's, that's just going to take time. And if students are not bringing their friends to events, then maybe ask them why they're not and be prepared for the gut check of their honesty. 00;16;39;11 - 00;16;57;16 Nick Clason yeah. But they'll be if they're honest with you. That is just absolutely good information that you have to, like, grab Ahold of, take to the bank, and then try and figure out what you need to do to create more of a culture of invite. So, so good. Well, here's the thing, Erik. Right. So like, we just we promoted this event. 00;16;57;16 - 00;17;20;20 Nick Clason We did a few like fun Instagram Reels. We did a few different like, emails. And we got students inviting students. But my my recommendation is more than just like a blitz. Like a marketing blitz on your social media for your upcoming Back to School bash, your upcoming Halloween party, your upcoming fill in the blank whatever event. Like you should be doing this on a holistic strategy, you know? 00;17;20;20 - 00;17;40;09 Nick Clason And in the book that I referenced earlier, I lay out a very detailed and very like high level strategy, like it's it's a high bar and it's often and it's like a full time job. But recently episode 106, I'll link it down below in the show notes. I scaled it back and that's what I also put in, like my doing my book as well. 00;17;40;09 - 00;18;08;03 Erik w/a "k" Williams And I said, hey, listen, if you're just getting going like focus on three times a week and I think three times a week is much more attainable for youth pastors. And I would guess, and I love you to speak into this. Like, I would guess that most youth pastors can look around and see other social media accounts are doing well and want to do that, but are just thinking, bro, I don't have the time. 00;18;08;06 - 00;18;24;04 Nick Clason And I would imagine that that's the boat that most youth pastors are and would. Would you agree with that or disagree with. Absolutely. I, I think of that for just myself. Like if I'm going, man, five days a week, I mean, there's so much to do. Three days a week feels a little more a little more comfortable. Yeah. 00;18;24;05 - 00;18;44;27 Erik w/a "k" Williams I'm a big fan of like batch recording where you just I'm just going to take an hour on Monday and I'm going to record these three videos. Yeah. And then take the time. I mean, it does take time, right? But like some of those cap cup meme videos, that's not that's not much time at all. You're just kind of putting that information in and taking something that's already been used. 00;18;44;27 - 00;19;06;24 Erik w/a "k" Williams And on the green screen you drop your information and like that's that's more simple. But I love I mean, dude, you're crushing it with how you do it with your youth ministry. I love like the, the, drafting videos and the seven seven questions to try to figure out what is it? I'm thinking of those those kind of things I think are so brilliant. 00;19;06;26 - 00;19;28;21 Erik w/a "k" Williams It takes some time, but if you batch it, record it, do it all in one day, like I know on Instagram you can schedule videos to, to, to, to, yeah to go at specific times and dates and all that stuff. Yeah. So it takes time. But I think it's important and there has to be a, a belief in the value of it, for you to actually do it. 00;19;28;24 - 00;19;52;20 Erik w/a "k" Williams You're not going to see the return on your investment overnight. Yeah. That's a, that's again another time. Just like the invite culture. It's going to take time to build your channel and students getting on it. Yeah. But you get those students involved with it both on screen and owning the the shooting of the videos and editing. Because there's you're going to find students that are that like to do that even if they're decent. 00;19;52;22 - 00;20;17;27 Nick Clason Yeah. You can do some training with them. Yep. Give somebody some responsibility and go, hey, I want you to take on one of these a week or whatever. Yeah, that's on it. That's exactly right. And that's exactly what we've done. So I got it up and going all by myself. Proof of concept, sustainability, all these things. But now I've started recruiting other students, you know, and to your point, we just batch record. 00;20;17;27 - 00;20;37;00 Nick Clason So anytime it's a Wednesday night we'll we have a four week strategy now. So one week we'll do those draft style videos. If you're watching here on YouTube you can see some examples. and we'll film as many of those as we can with as many students as we can. So I like to walk out of the night with anywhere from 4 to 6 of these different style of videos. 00;20;37;03 - 00;20;55;12 Nick Clason Then the next week we'll do our seven question style video and same kind of concept as many students as we can. As many as we have time for will knock them out and, you know, get 4 to 6 in the hopper to edit later. we'll do the next week. I do like a man on the street style of walking out the microphone, interviewing kids or whatever. 00;20;55;12 - 00;21;10;29 Nick Clason And so that's getting out of our room that we film in and more like on the streets. You can kind of see what our youth ministry looks like and everything. And then the last one is we'll just walk around, we'll do this. Those transition style invite videos. So hey, this week we'll do the one where the kids getting rammed by a ball. 00;21;10;29 - 00;21;29;23 Nick Clason Next week we'll do the one with the the baby puking or whatever. And you do a few of those. You get. We got, last night, two nights ago, we got six of them, you know, in the hopper. And so. And I'm not doing that like, I got it set up. I got all the infrastructure built, but now I've handed it off to one of my students. 00;21;29;23 - 00;21;50;17 Erik w/a "k" Williams And so he's doing it while I'm running the youth ministry program out playing basketball on the courts. And he's somewhere else in the building filming these these videos and that. Then the night he hands me the camera, I pop out the SD card and we're off. We're off to the races. And the good news in all of that, right, is that you can train up students and they want to help with. 00;21;50;17 - 00;22;09;18 Nick Clason And when we look at it like the growing Young Study and Fuller Institute and all these things like keychain leadership is the key to sustained faith. So it shouldn't just be you as a youth pastor, like cooking all these things up, like bring about your leaders, bring about your volunteers, and and bring about your students, man. Like they want to help. 00;22;09;18 - 00;22;28;25 Erik w/a "k" Williams So let an A side side bonus on that. You start handing some of the stuff off to students. They some of them are going to get like an excitement for doing that. And it could build into something even more. I had a student who I taught him how to do some PowerPoint stuff this like early on, and then I showed him how to shoot and edit video. 00;22;28;26 - 00;22;53;02 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah, he went into marketing as a business. Yeah. Like all because he learned that stuff in youth group in middle school. Yeah. And the principles transferable beyond just social media, right. Like you might get kids are not interested in that, but they're interested in other things and isn't our job, as the apostle Paul puts it, to train the saints and equip them for works and acts of service. 00;22;53;02 - 00;23;10;21 Nick Clason It's not our job to do all the works and acts of service. And so in the same vein, while social media feels like this maybe foreign kind of concept punch fear in the face just get started. And like I said, link down below. Episode 106. I'll detail an outline how to do all of that and just get those steps taken. 00;23;10;25 - 00;23;32;22 Nick Clason Love it. Anything else? Erik, before we wrap this week up, Erik w/a "k" Williams I just say on the social media world, just just make a decision to do it. Like John, John Acuff is a guy I love to read and listen to. He talks about the hardest part about running is putting your shoes on. Once you put your shoes on, you're committed. 00;23;32;25 - 00;23;53;11 Erik w/a "k" Williams Actually, when he's going to run in the morning, he puts his whole running outfit on the floor the night before. And then when you put your shoes on, that means you're going to actually run. So I'd say pick up your phone and, you know, sketch a few ideas and then go actually do it. Yeah. And then you start getting into a rhythm and it becomes a lot easier once you get into a rhythm of it. 00;23;53;18 - 00;24;12;06 Nick Clason Yeah, that's 100% right. 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We all want more people at our events, but how do we get more people at our events without promoting things to Social?
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00:00 IDEA #1: Stop Promoting Events on Social Media
04:48 Two Types of Social Promotions
10:38 IDEA #2: Write Better Emails
14:00 IDEA #3: Create an Invite Culture
17:10 A Wholistic Hybrid Approach
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;24;21
Nick Clason
Well. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And in this episode we're going to talk about better event promotion as well as a holistic digital and social media approach for your church and your youth ministry. And this is actually part two. Part one is linked right here at the top of the screen over on another channel, because we're doing a massive mash up collab.

00;00;24;28 - 00;00;49;07
Nick Clason
And I am joined today by my friend Erik with the K Erik.

Erik w/a "k" Williams
Good morning bro. How you doing? Good to see you Nick. So excited to be on your channel. Love what you're doing bro. So so good.

Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right?

00;00;49;08 - 00;01;08;17
Nick Clason
Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right?
You gave out a bunch of games. You gave out a full run sheet on, like how to do a great outreach style event at your church. And one major piece, right? In all of that, in churches and in youth ministry is promotion. We want people to come to our event. It's natural. It's a human nature, you know what I mean?

00;01;08;20 - 00;01;31;07
Nick Clason
And so one of the ways that we're always trying to get people to come to our event is through social media. Yeah. Is that not a normal like strategies and a normal thought process? Erik, for the average American youth pastor.

Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally I've totally used social media to promote events like for a long time. Yeah.

00;01;31;13 - 00;02;03;02
Nick Clason
And is it effective?

Erik w/a "k" Williams
I don't see a lot of likes on those posts. Yeah. And, I don't know, I'm not seeing, sharing and whatever. Yeah, I think I think it's just if, like if you look at in the past, a lot of my social media stuff for youth ministry, it tends to be mostly promotional. Okay. And watching your channel, one of the things I've learned is that's not a great idea because then it's just promotion.

00;02;03;02 - 00;02;25;00
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And it's not like, hey, because I looked at this, I'm going to get 20% off my next event, right? Right. It's just an announcement. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I am trying to steer youth pastors, church communicators away from, because if we're not careful, we're going to view social media as another announcement channel. And it's really not built for that.

00;02;25;00 - 00;02;46;06
Nick Clason
And if you treat it that way, it's not going to be incredibly successful. And so you should still get the word out and you can still use social media. But before you do, I want you to tweak and adjust your strategy on it. And so the first I have three ideas for better event promotion for your event, Erik, that we just talked through.

00;02;46;14 - 00;03;07;00
Nick Clason
The first one is don't post announcements announcing announcing it on social media. And what I mean by that in particular, because I'm going to get a little nuanced here, is I still think you can and should announce it, but don't just post your graphic that you cooked up on Canva or on Instagram Stories or wherever you cooked it up.

00;03;07;00 - 00;03;27;22
Nick Clason
Like, don't just post that because you will probably see as you see, as you said, two, three, six likes on it and likes aren't the only metric, you know, get the word across. Of course, like people will still see it. But you got to think about, our habits. Why do you, Erik, why do you get on social media?

00;03;27;24 - 00;03;48;25
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I want to be entertained, all right? I want to catch up with people, but I want to. I want to be entertained. That's. It's one of the things I love scrolling. Super. Particularly scrolling through videos. Right? Is I want it to be funny. Yeah, yeah. And, if you're watching this live, the month of August, your download youth ministry, I think it's like, God, an up or maybe silver and on up.

00;03;48;27 - 00;04;04;17
Nick Clason
I provided the mystery item for the members, and it was a let's go free e-book on how to crush your social media. And so one of the concepts in there, and if you know you're not a member or you missed the download perk, I'll drop a link in there. You can get it for just a few bucks, down below in the description.

00;04;04;17 - 00;04;27;05
Nick Clason
But one of the stats I included is that reels or short form vertical video TikTok style videos account for get this 90% of the internet's traffic. And so you're right, we get on social media to to be entertained or even to be inspired, maybe learn some stuff, but we don't get on there to catch up on our announcements, to catch up on what's the latest on our church.

00;04;27;05 - 00;04;52;20
Nick Clason
So stop posting static announcement graphics and start posting the types of content that people get on social media for i.e short form vertical based video. If you make it less than 60 seconds, you can post it on any of your social platforms including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and even YouTube shorts. And so if you are going to post about an event, I would recommend two styles of posts.

00;04;52;20 - 00;05;13;29
Erik w/a "k" Williams
So there's one. It's like the cap cut meme. Have you seen this before? The different cap cut style memes? absolutely. Lovely. I'm not. I haven't really gotten into using them yet much. Yeah, but I love I love using that like the, the the one where the guy who is The Mandalorian, I forget his name. Yeah. where he's laughing.

00;05;13;29 - 00;05;32;05
Nick Clason
Yep. Like really hard with that other guy. Like, I love that meme where you, you can put stuff in the background, right? Because it's kind of green screen concept. so, so good. Yeah. So find a way to, to catch the wave of a trending kind of like cap cut meme. And if you don't know, ask one of your teenagers, they'll help you.

00;05;32;08 - 00;05;53;15
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Speaking of speaking of cap cut, like, That's something. Now I use Final Cut to do most of my video editing. Yep. But when I'm doing, stuff with my phone, like, I do, like, screen like words on the screen, all that stuff, I use cap cut all the time. So last year I decided to invest in paying for it's a yearly fee.

00;05;53;18 - 00;06;19;17
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think it's like 75 bucks. Typically. They almost always have some sort of save a certain percentage off. So I paid 50 bucks last year. I just got a reminder that my subscriptions almost out. So they're giving me a 36%, 34, 36% off of the yearly yearly fee. So grab those, grab those discounts when you can. But for me, it's been a totally worth it expense because I use it all the time.

00;06;19;20 - 00;06;39;27
Nick Clason
Yeah. And and I don't pay for it. My youth, ministry, doesn't pay for it. So I'm still using the free version, and you can still get a lot out of of cap cut, even if you don't want to go that paid for out. So the other one, the other idea I have, and these are like on the rise right now with in churches and stuff, are the like, transition videos.

00;06;39;29 - 00;07;00;07
Nick Clason
and I don't know the other way to, to describe them, but essentially it starts with, a video like, a popular video of some sort. And the one I've seen a lot recently is the guy running away from, like, a bull in the streets. It must be like a running of the bulls thing in Spain or whatever, and he gets speared in the back and so on screen.

00;07;00;07 - 00;07;22;07
Nick Clason
You see, this guy just gets speared right in the back and just fly forward, and then it cuts out to your church or another church and some dude or girl getting, I guess, jumping or thrown into like the row of chairs. And then they like, you know, get up all, like, hurt and then turn around, look at the camera and they invite, you know, invite to church.

00;07;22;07 - 00;07;40;23
Nick Clason
And so there are, you know, a bunch of different ones of those. And I discovered there's so many more than I even thought, because I got on one of my accounts and I started just kind of creating a library of them, sharing them over to my church account. And the more I shared them, the more the algorithm kept feeding me those.

00;07;40;25 - 00;08;04;07
Nick Clason
And so now I've gone around with students and stuff and I'm like, hey, film this, walk into this chair or dive into these. These couches, or, you know, we'll spill one of the other ones. There's like a baby puking on screen and you see all the puke come out and then it like it dive the the milk dumps into the cup and you hear the little splash, and then someone takes a drink of it and it's like there's always free coffee at church.

00;08;04;07 - 00;08;27;02
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Something like that. Like, oh, so gross, so gross, but so funny. And, really, really popular right now. And so that's another way to invite someone to your event, but again, in a way that leans into what social media is built for and made for. Yeah, I love the one where somebody is running and jumping does like a cannonball into into, a pool.

00;08;27;08 - 00;08;53;03
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah. And then the next scene is like sugar cube dropping into a cup and it's like, yeah, like much smaller. Yeah. They're just funny. And again, you can still get the word out, but with like a little tweak. Right, a little adjustment. Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic but include faces on social media include entertainment and entertainment style elements on social media.

00;08;53;03 - 00;09;10;27
Nick Clason
So that's that's my first kind of point. Do you have anything else to add there before we I just say,

Erik w/a "k" Williams
you know, you just said it in to include faces like students love to see themselves. Yep. I think that's brilliant. The more you can get students in there instead of just you same face over and over, talking head kind of thing all the time.

00;09;10;29 - 00;09;27;21
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think that's brilliant. I love that dude. Yeah. And in addition to my doing my book, I got one here on my channel as well. It's free. It's down. The show notes. It will lay out this whole, this whole thing. So if you haven't grabbed it yet, go check that out. My site. I just want to support that, by the way, because that's I've downloaded that.

00;09;27;21 - 00;09;54;18
Erik w/a "k" Williams
That's been super, super helpful to me. You give so much inside of that e-book, bro. I absolutely love it. Well I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm sure help churches do better and get the word out that. What's up everyone Nicholas in here hopping into the middle of this episode to say that as I was ending it, I got this idea that I just wanted to give you my top six favorite transition videos and my top six favorite cap cut template.

00;09;54;18 - 00;10;14;10
Nick Clason
So if you hit up the link down below in the description and YouTube, it will give you a word document. it will just, the form will drop it into a drop box for download that word document, and it will give you six links to the Instagram videos, six links to the cap cut videos, as well as websites that you can use.

00;10;14;10 - 00;10;37;22
Nick Clason
Once you post those to either TikTok or to Instagram that you can download directly from that social channel, and then repost it without the tick tock or Instagram Reels watermark. out to Facebook or YouTube or wherever else you want to cross post things. I hope it's helpful to use these in your next event promotion. Without any further ado, back to the rest of them.

00;10;37;23 - 00;10;56;22
Nick Clason
So that's the whole goal of it. Yeah. Speaking. Getting better, getting the word out. write better emails. People like, if you're anything like me or any of the churches I've been in, we've done things like, you know, such and such church weekly student ministry update. And then in that, of course, you're like announcing your back to school event.

00;10;56;22 - 00;11;17;29
Nick Clason
You're announcing your costume party around Halloween time, you're announcing your Friendsgiving event. But nobody, who doesn't if they don't open the email, they don't read that content, they don't see it. And so it misses them. And so a new idea I had, and this is relevant because it just happened to me this week at our church, in our children's ministry.

00;11;18;02 - 00;11;39;00
Nick Clason
They were having an event I didn't know about. And the the subject is, you know, my church's kids ministry update, and I never read them. Guilty. All right, I work there. I'm a dad of kids in the ministry, but I never read them because I figure there's really nothing new in there. But there was something new, but I didn't open it.

00;11;39;02 - 00;11;54;09
Nick Clason
And you can look at it two ways. I'm I'm to blame or they're to blame. And most churches would be like, I'm to blame because they look back at open rates and they see that they're really low and they're like, well, you don't know what's going on because you don't open it. All of that is true. Guilty as charged.

00;11;54;12 - 00;12;30;06
Nick Clason
However, no, this most open rates, like a good open rate for like a business is like in the 20 to 30%. And so if you're a church, yeah, you're probably higher than that. But if you start putting some of what's going on, even in the subject of the email, even if people don't open it, then if their eyes ever glance through their inbox and they ignore your emails, but they still take a glance or a gander over at the subject, they'll at least be aware of what's going on in your in your youth ministry, and so you can prevent your outreach event to your parents and to any of the students who are subscribed to

00;12;30;06 - 00;12;51;22
Erik w/a "k" Williams
your email list with just better subjects and intake in inside of that when they open the email. Because, I mean, I've been guilty of this. I've seen I've been on emails from churches that it feels like I mean, you've got a template which I think is good to have a template. So you have to keep recreating something every single week.

00;12;51;24 - 00;13;15;06
Nick Clason
But it sometimes it can feel like I've seen all this information every single week. so I don't even bother opening. Yeah. Anything you could do to to kind of freshen inside of the email. Yeah. I mean, and you don't want to get clickbaity or sensational, right. But the more interesting your subject is, the the the more prone people are to open it.

00;13;15;09 - 00;13;33;08
Nick Clason
Keep in mind, too, that people want to people want to just like, social media. They want to interact with people. So if they're getting it from your ministry, like they they may be a bot in parent or student that wants to know what's going on in your ministry, but that's not enticing to them to correspond with the brand of your ministry.

00;13;33;11 - 00;13;52;19
Nick Clason
So send it from your name. Send it from your senior pastor's name. Like those types of things, you will see an uptick in engagement in that way. If it feels personal, like they're getting an email from a person as opposed to getting an email from an organization. So. Good. Yeah. the third thing, and I don't want to belabor it because we did we hit it in your episode.

00;13;52;19 - 00;14;15;24
Nick Clason
So go check that out. But really, I think the key to getting more people to your event, beyond just promoting it on social media, is really like creating a culture of invite, where students from your church will invite their friends to your church and you got to build that culture and over time it's going to take time. So if you're brand new, like just keep working it, keep working the soil, keep doing the thing.

00;14;15;27 - 00;14;36;05
Nick Clason
Create a safe space that your students know they can trust you. If they bring a friend to an event, you're not going to do something weird on them, and you got to do that a few times to prove it, to prove to your students that you're going to do that. But then eventually they'll start to realize that, like, oh, this is going to be a safe place and a safe event for me to bring my friend to.

00;14;36;07 - 00;14;57;26
Nick Clason
And they will start bringing students. And you know how it is like a word of mouth invite is so much more valuable than, static graphic that they scroll across on social media. Yeah, I think I think so. I mean, if you're if you run lame events, that word is going to get out to a. Right. So you want it's got to be a good event and that invite culture.

00;14;57;26 - 00;15;24;00
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think is an interesting conversation. And I just want to say a real quick thing about it. Nick. Yeah, is I remember when I came to a church and, we had this annual event that had been happening for a long time, and, the high schoolers were coming because it's really, like, competitive. experience. So there was there was like, students were showing up no matter what.

00;15;24;03 - 00;15;58;19
Erik w/a "k" Williams
But the middle schoolers, we hardly had any middle schoolers that were showing up. And so we talked about that, like, why is that? But there wasn't a there wasn't a culture of invitation. So we at that, that meant we had to do groundwork within the youth ministry to go, okay, there's an importance for our students that come regularly to understand they they need to be inviting their friends, because this is an easy, open opportunity for them to be able to share their faith with their friends by letting somebody else kind of set the groundwork for it.

00;15;58;19 - 00;16;14;06
Erik w/a "k" Williams
They show up to something fun. Then they have this conversation, then in the car ride home or whatever. Hey, I know we had a lot of fun with some highlights, but but it was so fun. Were telling your parents whatever, but what was something that you heard the the youth pastor talk about this? What did you think about that.

00;16;14;09 - 00;16;39;09
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah. And then having that conversation. So setting them up for success, if you will, rather than just show up and and do it and then don't ever talk about it again. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And that's, that's just going to take time. And if students are not bringing their friends to events, then maybe ask them why they're not and be prepared for the gut check of their honesty.

00;16;39;11 - 00;16;57;16
Nick Clason
yeah. But they'll be if they're honest with you. That is just absolutely good information that you have to, like, grab Ahold of, take to the bank, and then try and figure out what you need to do to create more of a culture of invite. So, so good. Well, here's the thing, Erik. Right. So like, we just we promoted this event.

00;16;57;16 - 00;17;20;20
Nick Clason
We did a few like fun Instagram Reels. We did a few different like, emails. And we got students inviting students. But my my recommendation is more than just like a blitz. Like a marketing blitz on your social media for your upcoming Back to School bash, your upcoming Halloween party, your upcoming fill in the blank whatever event. Like you should be doing this on a holistic strategy, you know?

00;17;20;20 - 00;17;40;09
Nick Clason
And in the book that I referenced earlier, I lay out a very detailed and very like high level strategy, like it's it's a high bar and it's often and it's like a full time job. But recently episode 106, I'll link it down below in the show notes. I scaled it back and that's what I also put in, like my doing my book as well.

00;17;40;09 - 00;18;08;03
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And I said, hey, listen, if you're just getting going like focus on three times a week and I think three times a week is much more attainable for youth pastors. And I would guess, and I love you to speak into this. Like, I would guess that most youth pastors can look around and see other social media accounts are doing well and want to do that, but are just thinking, bro, I don't have the time.

00;18;08;06 - 00;18;24;04
Nick Clason
And I would imagine that that's the boat that most youth pastors are and would. Would you agree with that or disagree with. Absolutely. I, I think of that for just myself. Like if I'm going, man, five days a week, I mean, there's so much to do. Three days a week feels a little more a little more comfortable. Yeah.

00;18;24;05 - 00;18;44;27
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I'm a big fan of like batch recording where you just I'm just going to take an hour on Monday and I'm going to record these three videos. Yeah. And then take the time. I mean, it does take time, right? But like some of those cap cup meme videos, that's not that's not much time at all. You're just kind of putting that information in and taking something that's already been used.

00;18;44;27 - 00;19;06;24
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And on the green screen you drop your information and like that's that's more simple. But I love I mean, dude, you're crushing it with how you do it with your youth ministry. I love like the, the, drafting videos and the seven seven questions to try to figure out what is it? I'm thinking of those those kind of things I think are so brilliant.

00;19;06;26 - 00;19;28;21
Erik w/a "k" Williams
It takes some time, but if you batch it, record it, do it all in one day, like I know on Instagram you can schedule videos to, to, to, to, yeah to go at specific times and dates and all that stuff. Yeah. So it takes time. But I think it's important and there has to be a, a belief in the value of it, for you to actually do it.

00;19;28;24 - 00;19;52;20
Erik w/a "k" Williams
You're not going to see the return on your investment overnight. Yeah. That's a, that's again another time. Just like the invite culture. It's going to take time to build your channel and students getting on it. Yeah. But you get those students involved with it both on screen and owning the the shooting of the videos and editing. Because there's you're going to find students that are that like to do that even if they're decent.

00;19;52;22 - 00;20;17;27
Nick Clason
Yeah. You can do some training with them. Yep. Give somebody some responsibility and go, hey, I want you to take on one of these a week or whatever. Yeah, that's on it. That's exactly right. And that's exactly what we've done. So I got it up and going all by myself. Proof of concept, sustainability, all these things. But now I've started recruiting other students, you know, and to your point, we just batch record.

00;20;17;27 - 00;20;37;00
Nick Clason
So anytime it's a Wednesday night we'll we have a four week strategy now. So one week we'll do those draft style videos. If you're watching here on YouTube you can see some examples. and we'll film as many of those as we can with as many students as we can. So I like to walk out of the night with anywhere from 4 to 6 of these different style of videos.

00;20;37;03 - 00;20;55;12
Nick Clason
Then the next week we'll do our seven question style video and same kind of concept as many students as we can. As many as we have time for will knock them out and, you know, get 4 to 6 in the hopper to edit later. we'll do the next week. I do like a man on the street style of walking out the microphone, interviewing kids or whatever.

00;20;55;12 - 00;21;10;29
Nick Clason
And so that's getting out of our room that we film in and more like on the streets. You can kind of see what our youth ministry looks like and everything. And then the last one is we'll just walk around, we'll do this. Those transition style invite videos. So hey, this week we'll do the one where the kids getting rammed by a ball.

00;21;10;29 - 00;21;29;23
Nick Clason
Next week we'll do the one with the the baby puking or whatever. And you do a few of those. You get. We got, last night, two nights ago, we got six of them, you know, in the hopper. And so. And I'm not doing that like, I got it set up. I got all the infrastructure built, but now I've handed it off to one of my students.

00;21;29;23 - 00;21;50;17
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And so he's doing it while I'm running the youth ministry program out playing basketball on the courts. And he's somewhere else in the building filming these these videos and that. Then the night he hands me the camera, I pop out the SD card and we're off. We're off to the races. And the good news in all of that, right, is that you can train up students and they want to help with.

00;21;50;17 - 00;22;09;18
Nick Clason
And when we look at it like the growing Young Study and Fuller Institute and all these things like keychain leadership is the key to sustained faith. So it shouldn't just be you as a youth pastor, like cooking all these things up, like bring about your leaders, bring about your volunteers, and and bring about your students, man. Like they want to help.

00;22;09;18 - 00;22;28;25
Erik w/a "k" Williams
So let an A side side bonus on that. You start handing some of the stuff off to students. They some of them are going to get like an excitement for doing that. And it could build into something even more. I had a student who I taught him how to do some PowerPoint stuff this like early on, and then I showed him how to shoot and edit video.

00;22;28;26 - 00;22;53;02
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah, he went into marketing as a business. Yeah. Like all because he learned that stuff in youth group in middle school. Yeah. And the principles transferable beyond just social media, right. Like you might get kids are not interested in that, but they're interested in other things and isn't our job, as the apostle Paul puts it, to train the saints and equip them for works and acts of service.

00;22;53;02 - 00;23;10;21
Nick Clason
It's not our job to do all the works and acts of service. And so in the same vein, while social media feels like this maybe foreign kind of concept punch fear in the face just get started. And like I said, link down below. Episode 106. I'll detail an outline how to do all of that and just get those steps taken.

00;23;10;25 - 00;23;32;22
Nick Clason
Love it. Anything else? Erik, before we wrap this week up,

Erik w/a "k" Williams
I just say on the social media world, just just make a decision to do it. Like John, John Acuff is a guy I love to read and listen to. He talks about the hardest part about running is putting your shoes on. Once you put your shoes on, you're committed.

00;23;32;25 - 00;23;53;11
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Actually, when he's going to run in the morning, he puts his whole running outfit on the floor the night before. And then when you put your shoes on, that means you're going to actually run. So I'd say pick up your phone and, you know, sketch a few ideas and then go actually do it. Yeah. And then you start getting into a rhythm and it becomes a lot easier once you get into a rhythm of it.

00;23;53;18 - 00;24;12;06
Nick Clason
Yeah, that's 100% right. Well hey everyone, so glad that you made it all the way to the end. if you haven't, go check out part one. Erik's got a bunch of freebies there. And youth ministry, you're definitely going to want those. Those are premium level freebies. But until next time, and as always, stay hybrid. See you.

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We all want more people at our events, but how do we get more people at our events without promoting things to Social?
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00:00 IDEA #1: Stop Promoting Events on Social Media
04:48 Two Types of Social Promotions
10:38 IDEA #2: Write Better Emails
14:00 IDEA #3: Create an Invite Culture
17:10 A Wholistic Hybrid Approach
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;24;21
Nick Clason
Well. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And in this episode we're going to talk about better event promotion as well as a holistic digital and social media approach for your church and your youth ministry. And this is actually part two. Part one is linked right here at the top of the screen over on another channel, because we're doing a massive mash up collab.

00;00;24;28 - 00;00;49;07
Nick Clason
And I am joined today by my friend Erik with the K Erik.

Erik w/a "k" Williams
Good morning bro. How you doing? Good to see you Nick. So excited to be on your channel. Love what you're doing bro. So so good.

Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right?

00;00;49;08 - 00;01;08;17
Nick Clason
Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right?
You gave out a bunch of games. You gave out a full run sheet on, like how to do a great outreach style event at your church. And one major piece, right? In all of that, in churches and in youth ministry is promotion. We want people to come to our event. It's natural. It's a human nature, you know what I mean?

00;01;08;20 - 00;01;31;07
Nick Clason
And so one of the ways that we're always trying to get people to come to our event is through social media. Yeah. Is that not a normal like strategies and a normal thought process? Erik, for the average American youth pastor.

Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally I've totally used social media to promote events like for a long time. Yeah.

00;01;31;13 - 00;02;03;02
Nick Clason
And is it effective?

Erik w/a "k" Williams
I don't see a lot of likes on those posts. Yeah. And, I don't know, I'm not seeing, sharing and whatever. Yeah, I think I think it's just if, like if you look at in the past, a lot of my social media stuff for youth ministry, it tends to be mostly promotional. Okay. And watching your channel, one of the things I've learned is that's not a great idea because then it's just promotion.

00;02;03;02 - 00;02;25;00
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And it's not like, hey, because I looked at this, I'm going to get 20% off my next event, right? Right. It's just an announcement. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I am trying to steer youth pastors, church communicators away from, because if we're not careful, we're going to view social media as another announcement channel. And it's really not built for that.

00;02;25;00 - 00;02;46;06
Nick Clason
And if you treat it that way, it's not going to be incredibly successful. And so you should still get the word out and you can still use social media. But before you do, I want you to tweak and adjust your strategy on it. And so the first I have three ideas for better event promotion for your event, Erik, that we just talked through.

00;02;46;14 - 00;03;07;00
Nick Clason
The first one is don't post announcements announcing announcing it on social media. And what I mean by that in particular, because I'm going to get a little nuanced here, is I still think you can and should announce it, but don't just post your graphic that you cooked up on Canva or on Instagram Stories or wherever you cooked it up.

00;03;07;00 - 00;03;27;22
Nick Clason
Like, don't just post that because you will probably see as you see, as you said, two, three, six likes on it and likes aren't the only metric, you know, get the word across. Of course, like people will still see it. But you got to think about, our habits. Why do you, Erik, why do you get on social media?

00;03;27;24 - 00;03;48;25
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I want to be entertained, all right? I want to catch up with people, but I want to. I want to be entertained. That's. It's one of the things I love scrolling. Super. Particularly scrolling through videos. Right? Is I want it to be funny. Yeah, yeah. And, if you're watching this live, the month of August, your download youth ministry, I think it's like, God, an up or maybe silver and on up.

00;03;48;27 - 00;04;04;17
Nick Clason
I provided the mystery item for the members, and it was a let's go free e-book on how to crush your social media. And so one of the concepts in there, and if you know you're not a member or you missed the download perk, I'll drop a link in there. You can get it for just a few bucks, down below in the description.

00;04;04;17 - 00;04;27;05
Nick Clason
But one of the stats I included is that reels or short form vertical video TikTok style videos account for get this 90% of the internet's traffic. And so you're right, we get on social media to to be entertained or even to be inspired, maybe learn some stuff, but we don't get on there to catch up on our announcements, to catch up on what's the latest on our church.

00;04;27;05 - 00;04;52;20
Nick Clason
So stop posting static announcement graphics and start posting the types of content that people get on social media for i.e short form vertical based video. If you make it less than 60 seconds, you can post it on any of your social platforms including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and even YouTube shorts. And so if you are going to post about an event, I would recommend two styles of posts.

00;04;52;20 - 00;05;13;29
Erik w/a "k" Williams
So there's one. It's like the cap cut meme. Have you seen this before? The different cap cut style memes? absolutely. Lovely. I'm not. I haven't really gotten into using them yet much. Yeah, but I love I love using that like the, the the one where the guy who is The Mandalorian, I forget his name. Yeah. where he's laughing.

00;05;13;29 - 00;05;32;05
Nick Clason
Yep. Like really hard with that other guy. Like, I love that meme where you, you can put stuff in the background, right? Because it's kind of green screen concept. so, so good. Yeah. So find a way to, to catch the wave of a trending kind of like cap cut meme. And if you don't know, ask one of your teenagers, they'll help you.

00;05;32;08 - 00;05;53;15
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Speaking of speaking of cap cut, like, That's something. Now I use Final Cut to do most of my video editing. Yep. But when I'm doing, stuff with my phone, like, I do, like, screen like words on the screen, all that stuff, I use cap cut all the time. So last year I decided to invest in paying for it's a yearly fee.

00;05;53;18 - 00;06;19;17
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think it's like 75 bucks. Typically. They almost always have some sort of save a certain percentage off. So I paid 50 bucks last year. I just got a reminder that my subscriptions almost out. So they're giving me a 36%, 34, 36% off of the yearly yearly fee. So grab those, grab those discounts when you can. But for me, it's been a totally worth it expense because I use it all the time.

00;06;19;20 - 00;06;39;27
Nick Clason
Yeah. And and I don't pay for it. My youth, ministry, doesn't pay for it. So I'm still using the free version, and you can still get a lot out of of cap cut, even if you don't want to go that paid for out. So the other one, the other idea I have, and these are like on the rise right now with in churches and stuff, are the like, transition videos.

00;06;39;29 - 00;07;00;07
Nick Clason
and I don't know the other way to, to describe them, but essentially it starts with, a video like, a popular video of some sort. And the one I've seen a lot recently is the guy running away from, like, a bull in the streets. It must be like a running of the bulls thing in Spain or whatever, and he gets speared in the back and so on screen.

00;07;00;07 - 00;07;22;07
Nick Clason
You see, this guy just gets speared right in the back and just fly forward, and then it cuts out to your church or another church and some dude or girl getting, I guess, jumping or thrown into like the row of chairs. And then they like, you know, get up all, like, hurt and then turn around, look at the camera and they invite, you know, invite to church.

00;07;22;07 - 00;07;40;23
Nick Clason
And so there are, you know, a bunch of different ones of those. And I discovered there's so many more than I even thought, because I got on one of my accounts and I started just kind of creating a library of them, sharing them over to my church account. And the more I shared them, the more the algorithm kept feeding me those.

00;07;40;25 - 00;08;04;07
Nick Clason
And so now I've gone around with students and stuff and I'm like, hey, film this, walk into this chair or dive into these. These couches, or, you know, we'll spill one of the other ones. There's like a baby puking on screen and you see all the puke come out and then it like it dive the the milk dumps into the cup and you hear the little splash, and then someone takes a drink of it and it's like there's always free coffee at church.

00;08;04;07 - 00;08;27;02
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Something like that. Like, oh, so gross, so gross, but so funny. And, really, really popular right now. And so that's another way to invite someone to your event, but again, in a way that leans into what social media is built for and made for. Yeah, I love the one where somebody is running and jumping does like a cannonball into into, a pool.

00;08;27;08 - 00;08;53;03
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah. And then the next scene is like sugar cube dropping into a cup and it's like, yeah, like much smaller. Yeah. They're just funny. And again, you can still get the word out, but with like a little tweak. Right, a little adjustment. Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic but include faces on social media include entertainment and entertainment style elements on social media.

00;08;53;03 - 00;09;10;27
Nick Clason
So that's that's my first kind of point. Do you have anything else to add there before we I just say,

Erik w/a "k" Williams
you know, you just said it in to include faces like students love to see themselves. Yep. I think that's brilliant. The more you can get students in there instead of just you same face over and over, talking head kind of thing all the time.

00;09;10;29 - 00;09;27;21
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think that's brilliant. I love that dude. Yeah. And in addition to my doing my book, I got one here on my channel as well. It's free. It's down. The show notes. It will lay out this whole, this whole thing. So if you haven't grabbed it yet, go check that out. My site. I just want to support that, by the way, because that's I've downloaded that.

00;09;27;21 - 00;09;54;18
Erik w/a "k" Williams
That's been super, super helpful to me. You give so much inside of that e-book, bro. I absolutely love it. Well I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm sure help churches do better and get the word out that. What's up everyone Nicholas in here hopping into the middle of this episode to say that as I was ending it, I got this idea that I just wanted to give you my top six favorite transition videos and my top six favorite cap cut template.

00;09;54;18 - 00;10;14;10
Nick Clason
So if you hit up the link down below in the description and YouTube, it will give you a word document. it will just, the form will drop it into a drop box for download that word document, and it will give you six links to the Instagram videos, six links to the cap cut videos, as well as websites that you can use.

00;10;14;10 - 00;10;37;22
Nick Clason
Once you post those to either TikTok or to Instagram that you can download directly from that social channel, and then repost it without the tick tock or Instagram Reels watermark. out to Facebook or YouTube or wherever else you want to cross post things. I hope it's helpful to use these in your next event promotion. Without any further ado, back to the rest of them.

00;10;37;23 - 00;10;56;22
Nick Clason
So that's the whole goal of it. Yeah. Speaking. Getting better, getting the word out. write better emails. People like, if you're anything like me or any of the churches I've been in, we've done things like, you know, such and such church weekly student ministry update. And then in that, of course, you're like announcing your back to school event.

00;10;56;22 - 00;11;17;29
Nick Clason
You're announcing your costume party around Halloween time, you're announcing your Friendsgiving event. But nobody, who doesn't if they don't open the email, they don't read that content, they don't see it. And so it misses them. And so a new idea I had, and this is relevant because it just happened to me this week at our church, in our children's ministry.

00;11;18;02 - 00;11;39;00
Nick Clason
They were having an event I didn't know about. And the the subject is, you know, my church's kids ministry update, and I never read them. Guilty. All right, I work there. I'm a dad of kids in the ministry, but I never read them because I figure there's really nothing new in there. But there was something new, but I didn't open it.

00;11;39;02 - 00;11;54;09
Nick Clason
And you can look at it two ways. I'm I'm to blame or they're to blame. And most churches would be like, I'm to blame because they look back at open rates and they see that they're really low and they're like, well, you don't know what's going on because you don't open it. All of that is true. Guilty as charged.

00;11;54;12 - 00;12;30;06
Nick Clason
However, no, this most open rates, like a good open rate for like a business is like in the 20 to 30%. And so if you're a church, yeah, you're probably higher than that. But if you start putting some of what's going on, even in the subject of the email, even if people don't open it, then if their eyes ever glance through their inbox and they ignore your emails, but they still take a glance or a gander over at the subject, they'll at least be aware of what's going on in your in your youth ministry, and so you can prevent your outreach event to your parents and to any of the students who are subscribed to

00;12;30;06 - 00;12;51;22
Erik w/a "k" Williams
your email list with just better subjects and intake in inside of that when they open the email. Because, I mean, I've been guilty of this. I've seen I've been on emails from churches that it feels like I mean, you've got a template which I think is good to have a template. So you have to keep recreating something every single week.

00;12;51;24 - 00;13;15;06
Nick Clason
But it sometimes it can feel like I've seen all this information every single week. so I don't even bother opening. Yeah. Anything you could do to to kind of freshen inside of the email. Yeah. I mean, and you don't want to get clickbaity or sensational, right. But the more interesting your subject is, the the the more prone people are to open it.

00;13;15;09 - 00;13;33;08
Nick Clason
Keep in mind, too, that people want to people want to just like, social media. They want to interact with people. So if they're getting it from your ministry, like they they may be a bot in parent or student that wants to know what's going on in your ministry, but that's not enticing to them to correspond with the brand of your ministry.

00;13;33;11 - 00;13;52;19
Nick Clason
So send it from your name. Send it from your senior pastor's name. Like those types of things, you will see an uptick in engagement in that way. If it feels personal, like they're getting an email from a person as opposed to getting an email from an organization. So. Good. Yeah. the third thing, and I don't want to belabor it because we did we hit it in your episode.

00;13;52;19 - 00;14;15;24
Nick Clason
So go check that out. But really, I think the key to getting more people to your event, beyond just promoting it on social media, is really like creating a culture of invite, where students from your church will invite their friends to your church and you got to build that culture and over time it's going to take time. So if you're brand new, like just keep working it, keep working the soil, keep doing the thing.

00;14;15;27 - 00;14;36;05
Nick Clason
Create a safe space that your students know they can trust you. If they bring a friend to an event, you're not going to do something weird on them, and you got to do that a few times to prove it, to prove to your students that you're going to do that. But then eventually they'll start to realize that, like, oh, this is going to be a safe place and a safe event for me to bring my friend to.

00;14;36;07 - 00;14;57;26
Nick Clason
And they will start bringing students. And you know how it is like a word of mouth invite is so much more valuable than, static graphic that they scroll across on social media. Yeah, I think I think so. I mean, if you're if you run lame events, that word is going to get out to a. Right. So you want it's got to be a good event and that invite culture.

00;14;57;26 - 00;15;24;00
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I think is an interesting conversation. And I just want to say a real quick thing about it. Nick. Yeah, is I remember when I came to a church and, we had this annual event that had been happening for a long time, and, the high schoolers were coming because it's really, like, competitive. experience. So there was there was like, students were showing up no matter what.

00;15;24;03 - 00;15;58;19
Erik w/a "k" Williams
But the middle schoolers, we hardly had any middle schoolers that were showing up. And so we talked about that, like, why is that? But there wasn't a there wasn't a culture of invitation. So we at that, that meant we had to do groundwork within the youth ministry to go, okay, there's an importance for our students that come regularly to understand they they need to be inviting their friends, because this is an easy, open opportunity for them to be able to share their faith with their friends by letting somebody else kind of set the groundwork for it.

00;15;58;19 - 00;16;14;06
Erik w/a "k" Williams
They show up to something fun. Then they have this conversation, then in the car ride home or whatever. Hey, I know we had a lot of fun with some highlights, but but it was so fun. Were telling your parents whatever, but what was something that you heard the the youth pastor talk about this? What did you think about that.

00;16;14;09 - 00;16;39;09
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah. And then having that conversation. So setting them up for success, if you will, rather than just show up and and do it and then don't ever talk about it again. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And that's, that's just going to take time. And if students are not bringing their friends to events, then maybe ask them why they're not and be prepared for the gut check of their honesty.

00;16;39;11 - 00;16;57;16
Nick Clason
yeah. But they'll be if they're honest with you. That is just absolutely good information that you have to, like, grab Ahold of, take to the bank, and then try and figure out what you need to do to create more of a culture of invite. So, so good. Well, here's the thing, Erik. Right. So like, we just we promoted this event.

00;16;57;16 - 00;17;20;20
Nick Clason
We did a few like fun Instagram Reels. We did a few different like, emails. And we got students inviting students. But my my recommendation is more than just like a blitz. Like a marketing blitz on your social media for your upcoming Back to School bash, your upcoming Halloween party, your upcoming fill in the blank whatever event. Like you should be doing this on a holistic strategy, you know?

00;17;20;20 - 00;17;40;09
Nick Clason
And in the book that I referenced earlier, I lay out a very detailed and very like high level strategy, like it's it's a high bar and it's often and it's like a full time job. But recently episode 106, I'll link it down below in the show notes. I scaled it back and that's what I also put in, like my doing my book as well.

00;17;40;09 - 00;18;08;03
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And I said, hey, listen, if you're just getting going like focus on three times a week and I think three times a week is much more attainable for youth pastors. And I would guess, and I love you to speak into this. Like, I would guess that most youth pastors can look around and see other social media accounts are doing well and want to do that, but are just thinking, bro, I don't have the time.

00;18;08;06 - 00;18;24;04
Nick Clason
And I would imagine that that's the boat that most youth pastors are and would. Would you agree with that or disagree with. Absolutely. I, I think of that for just myself. Like if I'm going, man, five days a week, I mean, there's so much to do. Three days a week feels a little more a little more comfortable. Yeah.

00;18;24;05 - 00;18;44;27
Erik w/a "k" Williams
I'm a big fan of like batch recording where you just I'm just going to take an hour on Monday and I'm going to record these three videos. Yeah. And then take the time. I mean, it does take time, right? But like some of those cap cup meme videos, that's not that's not much time at all. You're just kind of putting that information in and taking something that's already been used.

00;18;44;27 - 00;19;06;24
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And on the green screen you drop your information and like that's that's more simple. But I love I mean, dude, you're crushing it with how you do it with your youth ministry. I love like the, the, drafting videos and the seven seven questions to try to figure out what is it? I'm thinking of those those kind of things I think are so brilliant.

00;19;06;26 - 00;19;28;21
Erik w/a "k" Williams
It takes some time, but if you batch it, record it, do it all in one day, like I know on Instagram you can schedule videos to, to, to, to, yeah to go at specific times and dates and all that stuff. Yeah. So it takes time. But I think it's important and there has to be a, a belief in the value of it, for you to actually do it.

00;19;28;24 - 00;19;52;20
Erik w/a "k" Williams
You're not going to see the return on your investment overnight. Yeah. That's a, that's again another time. Just like the invite culture. It's going to take time to build your channel and students getting on it. Yeah. But you get those students involved with it both on screen and owning the the shooting of the videos and editing. Because there's you're going to find students that are that like to do that even if they're decent.

00;19;52;22 - 00;20;17;27
Nick Clason
Yeah. You can do some training with them. Yep. Give somebody some responsibility and go, hey, I want you to take on one of these a week or whatever. Yeah, that's on it. That's exactly right. And that's exactly what we've done. So I got it up and going all by myself. Proof of concept, sustainability, all these things. But now I've started recruiting other students, you know, and to your point, we just batch record.

00;20;17;27 - 00;20;37;00
Nick Clason
So anytime it's a Wednesday night we'll we have a four week strategy now. So one week we'll do those draft style videos. If you're watching here on YouTube you can see some examples. and we'll film as many of those as we can with as many students as we can. So I like to walk out of the night with anywhere from 4 to 6 of these different style of videos.

00;20;37;03 - 00;20;55;12
Nick Clason
Then the next week we'll do our seven question style video and same kind of concept as many students as we can. As many as we have time for will knock them out and, you know, get 4 to 6 in the hopper to edit later. we'll do the next week. I do like a man on the street style of walking out the microphone, interviewing kids or whatever.

00;20;55;12 - 00;21;10;29
Nick Clason
And so that's getting out of our room that we film in and more like on the streets. You can kind of see what our youth ministry looks like and everything. And then the last one is we'll just walk around, we'll do this. Those transition style invite videos. So hey, this week we'll do the one where the kids getting rammed by a ball.

00;21;10;29 - 00;21;29;23
Nick Clason
Next week we'll do the one with the the baby puking or whatever. And you do a few of those. You get. We got, last night, two nights ago, we got six of them, you know, in the hopper. And so. And I'm not doing that like, I got it set up. I got all the infrastructure built, but now I've handed it off to one of my students.

00;21;29;23 - 00;21;50;17
Erik w/a "k" Williams
And so he's doing it while I'm running the youth ministry program out playing basketball on the courts. And he's somewhere else in the building filming these these videos and that. Then the night he hands me the camera, I pop out the SD card and we're off. We're off to the races. And the good news in all of that, right, is that you can train up students and they want to help with.

00;21;50;17 - 00;22;09;18
Nick Clason
And when we look at it like the growing Young Study and Fuller Institute and all these things like keychain leadership is the key to sustained faith. So it shouldn't just be you as a youth pastor, like cooking all these things up, like bring about your leaders, bring about your volunteers, and and bring about your students, man. Like they want to help.

00;22;09;18 - 00;22;28;25
Erik w/a "k" Williams
So let an A side side bonus on that. You start handing some of the stuff off to students. They some of them are going to get like an excitement for doing that. And it could build into something even more. I had a student who I taught him how to do some PowerPoint stuff this like early on, and then I showed him how to shoot and edit video.

00;22;28;26 - 00;22;53;02
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Yeah, he went into marketing as a business. Yeah. Like all because he learned that stuff in youth group in middle school. Yeah. And the principles transferable beyond just social media, right. Like you might get kids are not interested in that, but they're interested in other things and isn't our job, as the apostle Paul puts it, to train the saints and equip them for works and acts of service.

00;22;53;02 - 00;23;10;21
Nick Clason
It's not our job to do all the works and acts of service. And so in the same vein, while social media feels like this maybe foreign kind of concept punch fear in the face just get started. And like I said, link down below. Episode 106. I'll detail an outline how to do all of that and just get those steps taken.

00;23;10;25 - 00;23;32;22
Nick Clason
Love it. Anything else? Erik, before we wrap this week up,

Erik w/a "k" Williams
I just say on the social media world, just just make a decision to do it. Like John, John Acuff is a guy I love to read and listen to. He talks about the hardest part about running is putting your shoes on. Once you put your shoes on, you're committed.

00;23;32;25 - 00;23;53;11
Erik w/a "k" Williams
Actually, when he's going to run in the morning, he puts his whole running outfit on the floor the night before. And then when you put your shoes on, that means you're going to actually run. So I'd say pick up your phone and, you know, sketch a few ideas and then go actually do it. Yeah. And then you start getting into a rhythm and it becomes a lot easier once you get into a rhythm of it.

00;23;53;18 - 00;24;12;06
Nick Clason
Yeah, that's 100% right. Well hey everyone, so glad that you made it all the way to the end. if you haven't, go check out part one. Erik's got a bunch of freebies there. And youth ministry, you're definitely going to want those. Those are premium level freebies. But until next time, and as always, stay hybrid. See you.

]]> Episode 110: Distractions During Youth Group: The Solution https://www.hybridministry.xyz/110 00ce8b1a-164b-47e1-9c79-d97acd4acc5e Thu, 15 Aug 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 110 Distractions During Youth Group: The Solution full Nick Clason What in the world do we do about cellphone usage during youth group?! It seems like it's getting worse and worse! Well, Josh Boldman, of DYM (downloadyouthministry.com) is here to help reveal his thoughts, as well as a full-proof program to not only take care of the cell phone epidemic, but to unveil the future of youth ministry as we all know it! 38:26 no ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ’ฅ[CUSTOM] Hybrid Coaching๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ====================================== DESCRIPTION What in the world do we do about cellphone usage during youth group?! It seems like it's getting worse and worse! 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Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry show. I, as always my host Nick Klassen. And I'm really excited. Today I got the one and only Josh Boldman who works at Diam now. He also has years of experience in youth ministry. And so we are going to interview Josh today. What's up everybody? I'm here with Josh Boldman. Josh how you doing this morning bro? 00:00:23:04 - 00:00:44:07 Josh Boldman I am good man. How are you doing I'm great. I'm glad to have you on Nick Clason the long awaited Josh Boldman interview. Josh Boldman Most podcasts are still waiting. I just wanted to make it very clear. Nick Clason Oh man, I feel like I'm in an exclusive club. Yeah, or something. Josh Boldman So they just don't know. They don't know it yet, but they're still waiting. 00:00:44:07 - 00:01:10:12 Nick Clason Yeah, they definitely are. But not me. Not us. Josh, like, tell the people, how did. Who are you and how did you get to where you are today? Josh Boldman Oh my gosh. Okay. That is it all started on a cold with. No. okay. So I have, right there. So I'll start with where I'm at. right now I am I am the team lead for co-leader, which is, a part of the download Youth Ministry family. 00:01:10:14 - 00:01:39:17 Josh Boldman I also, run lead in the sidekick arena, which is our presentation software. We'll get to that. but that's only been for about the last year. before that, I spent, somewhere in the neighborhood of. Right at about 20 years in student ministry, as a youth pastor or youth minister or student pastor or student ministries director, or any of the other myriad ways that you can you can describe it. 00:01:39:19 - 00:02:03:18 Josh Boldman but I did that. Gosh, from Florida, to Illinois, to, tiny, tiny little churches to big old churches to, single site to multi-site to we do youth ministry on Sunday morning to we do youth ministry on Wednesday nights like normal people do. all that, you know, so, you know, it's just kind of been all over the place. 00:02:03:24 - 00:02:27:24 Josh Boldman Yeah. but for the last ten, I'll say ten. It's probably like six, but I'll say ten years. I pastor mother, with Dwight. Yeah. It's like, how many kids were there? The 400. I don't know, it was too many to count. but yeah. So I, I've been an author with Tim, putting resources like games and teaching content and countdowns and videos and stuff together for DYM. 00:02:27:27 - 00:02:47:11 Josh Boldman And then about a year ago, they had somebody that was going on maternity leave and they're like, hey, you want to cover for that person? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And then I spent all 90 days of that maternity leave, trying to make it where there was literally no way they could let me go afterward. 00:02:47:11 - 00:03:08:12 Nick Clason And it it worked nice. Josh Boldman Absolutely worked. I was it was dicey for about about 45 days. And then I was like, nah, I think I got I think, I think I got this. So she came back and I was not asked to pack up and leave. so that has worked out for everybody. Yeah. You didn't put her on the job either? 00:03:08:12 - 00:03:31:27 Josh Boldman No, no, it's kind of great. Yeah. So, you know, it's been it's been a ride. this last year, co-leader has transitioned from a, a platform where you can plan ministry to a full blown annual curriculum. we've launched sidekick. sidekick, which is now in beta. we had Sidekick Legacy, which was a standalone app. 00:03:31:27 - 00:03:53:26 Josh Boldman Now it's built in the browser. So you open it in Chrome and you can you can play. You know, play your presentation literally anywhere. we did that all with any I mean, it's like literally anything we could have done, we we decided we were like, hey, you know what? If we just take everything we ever want to do and we just jam it all into one calendar year, and we got this. 00:03:53:27 - 00:04:08:28 Nick Clason Yeah, we got this guy now who's covering for this girl on maternity leave, and now we can. We had him go. So we're we need to get our money's worth out of him. That's there. Like, we have so many staff. We have so we have so many. And now, now we need to have them do things, so. 00:04:08:28 - 00:04:30:10 Nick Clason Oh, man, I gotta say the like this, I don't there's no pitch. Like, no, like kickback. None of this. I love co-leader and I love sidekick. And, we, I made our church and I think I told you this, but we'll tell everyone I was like, I made our church by two computers so that we could run pro presenter. 00:04:30:10 - 00:04:52:19 Nick Clason Because the musicians need the confidence monitor, like the not not what's on the screen mirror, but like what's coming. So like what? So that's valid. Josh Boldman So they don't practice is what you're telling me. Nick Clason Exactly. They're ill prepared. So I had to give them what they needed at the give the musicians you know, throw my bone. But I made them buy another computer and a like a black magic video switcher. 00:04:52:19 - 00:05:11:04 Josh Boldman And we running everything else now. Yeah. Off of sidekick. And so, so, so what I'm hearing you say is because of the worship ministry, you guys have to rely on dark magic. Is that. What is that where he is? Oh, black. Matt. Oh, it's a black. It's a company that's different. Okay. All right. I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised either. 00:05:11:11 - 00:05:37:06 Nick Clason Yeah, yeah, either way. But I love the like I love a lot of things about it. But my favorite part about it is the phone integration. Right. And, we played last week like a game like, multiple choice game. And they could literally play on their phones. And this was the first time I'd, I'd use that particular, like, setting there and sidekick, like the, the question with, with the quiz like type of. 00:05:37:08 - 00:06:02:05 Nick Clason Yeah. Like what the correct answer. Yes. Yes. And I loved that. That was super fun. so talk to me just a little bit about, like, you know, you jump in. Were there rumblings and plans about sidekick being revamped or did you see some of like those opportunities and be like, this is what I see in youth ministry as a youth pastor, 20 plus years and now, yeah, I want to help kind of evolve it to the next stage, like give us that kind of background. 00:06:02:08 - 00:06:26:01 Josh Boldman Yeah. So something that, I it's really funny because I don't know that many youth workers realize, although I feel like we should is that, software development takes billions of dollars and lots and lots of time. and so, so when I started at downloading Ministry, the plan had already been. We are revamping sidekick. I'm. You know, I'm just gonna peel back the curtain, you know? 00:06:26:01 - 00:06:50:24 Josh Boldman You don't know. Yeah. Sorry. I took the original app. All right. Was written in a, in a programing environment that got depreciate. All right, so it is. It was built long, so it was built on something called chromium. and it it it is a like sidekick. Legacy is a work of art. Like it is a it was a game changer for me when I was in ministry. 00:06:50:24 - 00:07:14:13 Josh Boldman The the spinning wheel boxes. Yeah. it was one of a kind. No one was. Oh, my gosh, nobody was doing it right. And then, what happened about two years ago, maybe three years ago now is chromium got depreciated. And we realized what that meant was there was now no way to update the legacy. I don't know at all, like, impossible, like literally impossible. 00:07:14:16 - 00:07:31:17 Josh Boldman And and so it was like, okay, well, we can either rebuild a new one or we can take it in a different direction. And one of the really things that people that people hated was every time you open the legacy app, you have to sign in every single time you had to type in the password. It was a great time. 00:07:31:20 - 00:07:52:23 Josh Boldman I got into trouble. One time I was in front of our, like our whole camp, like it was like a thousand kids, right? And sidekick was running, and then it crashed. And then they had to reopen it, and they're like, from the booth, they yell out, what's the password? No. And in front of 1000 students, I had to say a password into the microphone. 00:07:52:23 - 00:08:14:14 Josh Boldman And here's the best part. You ready for this? It was the same password for everything. Like my my bank account and, all this stuff. So, like, so like, I immediately I started teaching, and then I get off stage and I'm like, I gotta change every password I mean, ever had. It was a nightmare. so we thought, okay, what is the best way to make this as portable as possible? 00:08:14:14 - 00:08:33:01 Josh Boldman So we went with putting it in, in the browser. Yeah. which I'll be honest, I mean, it was basically like it was a trade off, right? It gave us a lot of, functionality as far as portability, as far as far as syncing. Yeah. but it there are trade offs, right? Like Google Chrome. both. 00:08:33:01 - 00:08:52:11 Josh Boldman Google. Safari, Apple. you know, Firefox, they all have different rules about like window management. And so like you'll know like when you open sidekick and you go to present, you have to drag the window over to your other browser. Like that's not ideal right now. We that's why we have a video switcher now that's why. Right. 00:08:52:13 - 00:09:22:11 Josh Boldman Yeah. That's why we that's why we as Christians rely on dark black magic. Black. It's that's what it is. and so, so, you know, so there are some trade offs for sure. For sure. But, but what we started realizing was, the, the pitch that we started telling people that when it, I think it really kind of clicked for people how how different was good is we would tell them, like, we would show them what we could do with, with voting, with spinning wheel, with, with pick me like the main ideas. 00:09:22:14 - 00:09:41:11 Josh Boldman And I said, what's really cool is I can create this presentation. I can, immediately, as soon as I add an element to a slide, I can close the laptop, I can break it over my knee, I can set it on fire and throw it in the ocean. And then I can just go to church, open the computer, and it's it's there like it is there. 00:09:41:12 - 00:10:03:18 Josh Boldman It does not miss a beat. you probably have to like on the computer at church, though, because yours is God's an ocean. Oh yeah. No no no no. Yeah. There's no recovering from it really at the point. Not sidekicks. Not that good yet. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. but. Yeah. So so it's, Yeah, it's it's being able to sync and being able to to go remote. 00:10:03:25 - 00:10:28:19 Josh Boldman That's awesome. But then when we started showing people, hey, all you have to do is the same thing you did to log in on your computer, do that on your phone. And what it does is it turns your phone into a remote for the exact same presentation that's running on your presentation computer. and I mean, just suddenly being able to when you're doing polls on your phone, you can see the results, before they're even shown on the screen. 00:10:28:22 - 00:10:57:09 Josh Boldman you can go to next, go back. You can do slide notes. You can. I mean, it did really any of the functionality that's there except for editing on the computer. You can do that literally on your phone in real time because I don't know if you've ever I'm certainly you've never been in this situation where you have a sixth grader who is so well intentioned is like, I want to run the computer and you're like, yes, that is a that is a thing a sixth grader can do. 00:10:57:09 - 00:11:26:24 Josh Boldman You can hit the spacebar. Yeah. And and then, and then they, and then they don't, they, they just don't hit the spacebar. And so like I would always use it as just like my, my phone was, I wasn't there. So I was running it, but it was my fallback. Like I was like, okay, that kid in the back, there was one time, I swear to you, right, at an unnamed church that I worked at for a while. 00:11:26:27 - 00:11:51:12 Josh Boldman I remember once, so I would always try, so I was a student ministry director there, and so I always I would always try, like, I would. Yeah, I was either teaching or whatever, but I would always try to do anytime I wasn't teaching, I would try to do something else. So like anytime I wasn't teaching, I would be in the booth or the, you know, doing the game or, you know, but so there's one time I'm in the booth and, and the lyrics for the songs are not firing on time. 00:11:51:12 - 00:12:18:01 Josh Boldman And I, so I'm like, leaning over and I'm looking. The kid is watching Star Wars the movie. Like, like an actual movie on his phone. Not a TikTok, not a YouTube. No. The two hour movie, two hour movie with subtitles. And he is holding his phone like screamed. Is it because the subtitles are so small? And I'm like, hey, I know, I know, you're looking at that because words are important. 00:12:18:03 - 00:12:38:25 Josh Boldman However, everyone else in the room is looking up here because words are important. So maybe I don't know, I don't know, that's just jump up and just jump on that. That's a win right there. Yeah. So but being able to you know when you're on stage and things go wrong there are like a couple of options. And and one of them is to make the person in the booth feel really bad. 00:12:38:25 - 00:13:00:09 Nick Clason And that is never the right option. Right. It's never to call attention to the person messed up. But we want to sometimes. Oh oh yes, yes, yes we do. But being able to just say, okay, I've got my phone here. Hey, Mr. Cube, don't worry, I'm just going to jump it like, yeah, was that was the game changer for me. 00:13:00:11 - 00:13:22:15 Josh Boldman and so now we're just on this journey of trying to reach full parity between the legacy version and what is right now, the lovingly called the beta version of sidekick. until it until it has all the same features. yeah. But what we're finding is that is, like I said, the original The legacy is a work of art. 00:13:22:17 - 00:13:47:09 Josh Boldman And, right now, we are working on boxes and that is in the browser proving to be a challenging. Yeah, it is, it's just, you know, it's one of those things like, you wouldn't think like even when we first, the first go around, we did, wheel and pick me. Right. Those were the first two things. And so with the wheel, you know, you think how this is, it's a spinning wheel. 00:13:47:10 - 00:14:04:24 Josh Boldman Like there's no. Yeah, there's nothing complicated here. Oh, but there is, friend, because pixels are square. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that or not, but pixels was great. So when you try and rotate them around and center axis that's a. Yeah. It's just it's one of those things like, you know, you think you got it. 00:14:04:24 - 00:14:21:03 Josh Boldman And then suddenly you're like, oh, that looks really bad. And so then it just it's like you have to go right back to the drawing board and, and so, so yeah. So right now we're working on boxes. It's, it's taking a little longer than we had hoped, but but you're working with square pixels now. So square pixels. 00:14:21:06 - 00:14:35:10 Josh Boldman We know what we're doing. Yeah. Yes. Wouldn't it be funny if like, in the like when, when it was the wheel, we had a problem because it was squares. But then like we're like, alright, now we're going to move the boxes and like just the world, like was like, you know what we figured out round pixels are better. 00:14:35:12 - 00:14:57:21 Josh Boldman And I was like, no, no. Yeah. But but yeah. So we're that. So we got boxes, in the pipeline. we're we, we here and I know anybody that knows sidekick already. Their first question that they have been asking is what about, survey says, which is our family feud builder. Right. And, that one is, it's coming. 00:14:57:21 - 00:15:19:27 Josh Boldman It's like, but it's it is it all takes a yeah, it all takes time. And, so, best way anybody, anybody that, you know, can help me go to sidekick.TV. There's a link there where you can, you can submit ideas and requests and you can even vote on other people's. And and that always helps us know kind of what's next. 00:15:19:29 - 00:15:36:15 Josh Boldman yeah. But yeah, we'll drop. That'll be. We're loving it, dude. I mean, and. Oh, I, I know the sound is starting to sound like a commercial and I apologize, but it's, it's it is. It's like it's just so fun is, when, when one of the most recent things we did was we connected everyone's dim accounts to the download youth ministry. 00:15:36:15 - 00:16:04:05 Josh Boldman If you buy something, there, he just automatically shows up. And that is that was awesome. Sweet. Because, I mean, it used to be, I don't know. I mean, you you make games for GM that are video based, right. And and when you do that those those files are massive. Like, you know, I mean, it's not uncommon for a game to be three, four gigabytes, you know, but it's also 3 or 4GB of, you know, that's 20, 30 videos for the game. 00:16:04:05 - 00:16:21:05 Josh Boldman And so then adding each of those in is kind of a nightmare. And so we figured out a way to do it is we do it on our end once and then it when you buy it, it just you can just it shows up in your library. You click on it and it's just in that is yeah, man, I'm telling you I will. 00:16:21:08 - 00:16:38:28 Josh Boldman I never have to worry about losing a thumb drive ever again. Yeah, because I don't know if you know this or not, but I don't know where my thumb drive it is right now. I lost it in 1997. so. Sounds like there are some important things on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Knows it was, I don't know, something. 00:16:38:28 - 00:17:04:23 Josh Boldman Call it bitcoin. Bitcoin I don't remember. You could have been rich. You wouldn't even have to be here right now. Well I'll tell you what. Of all the things like all the things you're talking about, there's like, there's phone usage on both sides, right? So if you're presenting, you can use your phone as a remote, but if you're, you're, watching your in the audience, there are like integrations where there's like voting and games and all that stuff. 00:17:04:23 - 00:17:25:07 Nick Clason Yeah. And, I think that's my favorite part. Like as a youth pastor now for, over ten years, like I've always been trying to figure out how to get ourselves in youth ministry. Like relevant to our students are, as opposed to, like, when they're at church, make them do something that's so completely foreign to like their current culture. 00:17:25:07 - 00:17:56:28 Nick Clason Right? Like youth culture, like they're all messaging one another through their phones. They're all like consuming news articles and social media through their phones. And then we get to church and like the church I was at, like when I started the previous regime, no shade. but they had, like, phone lockers, like they would take kids cellphones and lock them and like, and what we're do, in my opinion, is like, okay, so we're, we're just trying to modify their behavior, but we haven't actually like change their true authentic like desire to like be here and listen. 00:17:56:28 - 00:18:19:26 Nick Clason We just want them quieter for us. And like that we should just be better. Like, yeah. And so y'all start rolling out all this stuff on sidekick. And I'm like, here's the opportunity for us to use what is native to them in our environment and in a way that doesn't, like, break the bank anymore, because to get some of these features through other third party like platforms, we just don't have the money. 00:18:19:26 - 00:18:45:09 Nick Clason As a youth pastor, you know what I'm saying? In your budget, whatever the case might be. So yeah, so that's my favorite part. And so I would love it if you would talk about not just necessarily like the sidekick integration, but what has been your experience and your unique perspective as a youth pastor with how what we've done in youth culture and how like we've then asked them to come to church culture and how they don't all they're like oil and water sometimes. 00:18:45:09 - 00:19:07:04 Nick Clason Like, how are we? How can we reach students better and to find ourselves where they are, which is online, on phones, all those things. Josh Boldman I mean, okay, so you remember, man, even I mean, when I was growing up and especially early in my ministry, you know, it was always the, the thing was, you were always fighting against like, like travel sports, right? 00:19:07:04 - 00:19:30:07 Josh Boldman Like that was like the, the, the bane of youth ministry existence was like, oh, we still are really, by the way. Oh, to be cool. Yeah. Oh, no doubt. But it was like, I don't know, there was like a point where I think we just we got tired of seeing no results from shame, shaming those kids. Like, it's like you want to play travel ball. 00:19:30:11 - 00:19:47:28 Josh Boldman We'll play travel ball. Yeah. With the devil. You know, it's like that. Doesn't like it doesn't help anybody. When? When all we're doing is. Or like. Like, oh, you have a phone, go lock it up because it's, you know, it's like that, doesn't it? Yeah. What does that do? All that does is like when you're locking up a kid's phone. 00:19:48:05 - 00:20:10:09 Josh Boldman I feel like the way that you can know that it's not working is as soon as the the time, like the lockdown is over, was the very first thing they do. They run to go get it. Yeah. Which means that it was, it was on their mind still. So it's not like you really saved you know them any, any trouble or any like you didn't gain anything by pulling it away, you know, because their attention is still stuck on it. 00:20:10:11 - 00:20:36:16 Josh Boldman so really what I think, I think is we're seeing right now in youth ministry as a whole, in, in what we're trying to do, a sidekick is really we're trying to figure out ways to engage students, literally where they are. And so, I guess, have you, did you ever do camps where the rule was the kids couldn't even bring their phone to camp? 00:20:36:18 - 00:20:59:04 Nick Clason I never did. No, I could have, right. But I never I always I've always run my own camp, so I make the rules. So. Yeah. And I've always been in churches or youth ministries where the goal is to bring kids who don't go to our church to camp. And like, I'm not going to get a kid and their family who's never met me, send their kid like hours away without a lifeline back to them. 00:20:59:04 - 00:21:24:10 Josh Boldman Oh yeah. Kids. Oh, no. So I've never tried to fight that battle, but it was fake because we used to almost use that, like as an advertisement. We were like, come to camp where you get away from your phone and kids are like, I don't want to do that, you know? And so, like, there was a point where I think maybe 20 years ago, you probably could do it, but even now, it's not even just the kid, it's the parents that are like, I'm not sending my kid without their phone. 00:21:24:10 - 00:21:58:02 Josh Boldman What's wrong with you? You know? Yeah. So, like, so what we decided to do with with sidekick is like, okay, what if instead of constantly harping on, he put your phone away or go lock it up or don't even bring it, or, you know, trying to make it seem like the phone itself was the enemy. What if we decided to say like, hey, we understand that that phone, it's an extension of you now like that just, I mean, and that, I mean, you know, I mean, I think you can get really, like, dystopian, you know, like, like Blade Runner type type vibes from, like, the phone is an extension of you, but but it is 00:21:58:03 - 00:22:21:24 Josh Boldman mine is an extension of me like, I mean, I literally if I, I don't know when the last time I walked out of my house without my phone was like, it's not just because I didn't forget it, it's because if it's not in my pocket, it feels like I'm missing something. I feel like I know I'm missing it, and you're gonna need it, you know, like, oh, sure, it's your calendar, it's your wallet, it's your navigation, it's your everything. 00:22:21:24 - 00:22:49:12 Nick Clason Like it. So you can't so much. That's my argument is like this. It's not going anywhere. So we can try our hardest as youth pastors and churches to fight against culture. But it's a losing battle eventually. And it's not like, oh, let's give in to culture because it's evil, right? No, no, no. It's how do we take this thing that is not moral, it's not morally right or morally wrong, but how do we take this thing and just use it as a tool? 00:22:49:12 - 00:23:07:12 Josh Boldman It's it's a tool, 100% tool that we we would have died for 15, 20 years ago, like, oh yeah, I was talking on the last episode like we didn't have group chats 15 years ago. If you want to talk to your student, you talk to them when they came to your building and that was it. But now you can do pastoral care. 00:23:07:12 - 00:23:39:02 Nick Clason You can, and just do a basic thing like texting. When I'm talking about something like software development right now. Yeah. So one of the things, that has been really cool to experiment with, and we've seen a couple people do this really well is is using like polls like, okay, so there's a there are different ways you can use it, but the like, so say as you're teaching, if, if you're saying something that you know is going to fly right over their heads, right? 00:23:39:05 - 00:24:11:11 Josh Boldman Pausing literally at that moment and asking the question, hey, did you catch that? And yes or no, like literally something super simple like, did you catch that? Yes or no? And then adjusting what you say next based on their response or, we've even seen people take their entire services in like a, choose your own adventure type approach where, I mean, it is it seems minor, but it's something like, hey, we've got the worship team has two songs that they prepared, but we're only going to do one. 00:24:11:13 - 00:24:29:15 Josh Boldman Hey, you all, they're here. Yeah. Which one you want to do? You know, or, you know, I've, done a couple teaching times where, like, so, you know, every youth pastor has, like, their, like, bag of tricks, like the, the saw or the stories that they tell that it's like, okay, I can tell this story, like drop of a hat. 00:24:29:15 - 00:25:00:17 Josh Boldman Yeah. you know, and so, like, I, I'll start with, like, right at the beginning of a message will say, hey, guys, I can tell you one of, three stories. You know, when when I got hit by a car, one when I accidentally killed my girlfriend's cat and one when I, when I stubbed my toe, you know, and so, like, you take your pick, you know, and just let them pick, and it doesn't change anything about where that message is going, but letting them have a moment where they can speak into it. 00:25:00:17 - 00:25:27:22 Josh Boldman Like, I guarantee you, when the room picks the story, the room pays attention to the story more. Yeah. or or even at the end, you know, be a great way to, to really, especially if you're trying to reach students that are not familiar with church a lot, you know, like that aren't around a lot is, at the end of the message just saying, like, hey, on a scale of 1 to 5, how much do you agree with what you just heard? 00:25:27:25 - 00:25:46:26 Josh Boldman can you met and live in live results on the screen like, hey, okay, so but can you imagine how much that might change your small group conversations that are going to happen right after the lesson? If if you suddenly see, like, oh, we just talked about this and 80% of the room says, I don't agree, okay, great. 00:25:47:03 - 00:26:10:20 Josh Boldman Then let's go to our small groups and let's see this mess out. You know, or I think that there's, there's stuff like that or or you could even say if you're doing a series, you could, you could say, hey, here are the four weeks of the series. we did the intro this week. Which one you want to hear about next week and let them pick where you're going to go, and then you have a whole week to figure out how to get there. 00:26:10:22 - 00:26:29:11 Josh Boldman yeah. But it but I guarantee you, those students that voted are going to be more likely to be there if they know what you're talking about. And they actually helped get to to choose what that was going to be. Yeah, I think I think there's a lot there. And we're working love to say like we're working like it's like in development, right, right now. 00:26:29:11 - 00:26:49:09 Josh Boldman But it's like I mean, one of the things on the, on the docket is, is, you know, being able to have students from their seat ask questions, be able to give feedback, you know, in real time so that you, as you're standing there on the, you know, platform with your phone that you're able to see the questions as they come in. 00:26:49:11 - 00:27:06:03 Josh Boldman we're trying to figure out things like how to moderate those things because I don't know about you, but if you ask open ended questions and just have the answers up on the screen without, you might get some filtering. Yeah. Inappropriate answer, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, my the students that I've ever worked with are always saints and so they would not do that. 00:27:06:03 - 00:27:30:01 Nick Clason But I would imagine yours. Well you know it's crazy is like here's another like just interesting youth culture is like I was working at a church in Chicago and it was very like it, it prided itself on we reach people who are far from God. And so, you know, that's going to come with a certain like, oh, I student and now I'm in the Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas. 00:27:30:08 - 00:27:55:00 Nick Clason And, it's like it prides itself on being like the church for Christians almost. And like the kids, the students, they're the same, like it's oh, no doubt. Right. That's the crazy thing is what the internet has done is it's leveled that like playing field of like, yeah, certain cultures, their youth culture is very consistent now and despite the demographic. 00:27:55:00 - 00:28:16:08 Nick Clason And so the unique part is not our students. The unique part is helping our parents understand, that the students are still the same, you know, so, you know, something, we've seen is actually really cool that somebody was doing was they were using the live polls in their lobby for parents to answer as they were dropping their kids off. 00:28:16:08 - 00:28:40:12 Josh Boldman That's cool. And, it was yeah, it was very cool. Was like, and it was, you know, some like, minor stuff that it was like, you know, what time is your middle schoolers? Bedtime. Like, you know. Yeah. Seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. You know, just pick one, you know, stuff like that. And it was minor. But again, it's, not just that you get individuals to engage, but the fact that everybody can see the responses as it as it goes. 00:28:40:14 - 00:29:09:00 Josh Boldman There's, I think there's a lot of even still some untapped, untapped potential there. think about how to help people engage. Yeah. I think, we went to a conference a while back, and they're talking about the differences in generational ways of thinking. And like one of the things and I think this is true, despite like being an older, older generation of like all of us, but like Gen Z, Gen Alpha, like they're just looking to be known individually, like they don't want to be part of, like a sea of numbers. 00:29:09:00 - 00:29:32:20 Nick Clason Right. And so when you are in a bigger context and you have 100,000 kids, like it's hard to it's hard for them to, to stand out and stuff like this helps them get to just yeah, speak their, their voice. Right. And they get to play a role. And even if they're voting for something and their choice doesn't get picked like they were heard and that's oh yeah, that's all it needs to be. 00:29:32:20 - 00:29:52:17 Nick Clason It doesn't have to always go their way, you know? And there's probably some opportunity for them to learn some life lessons and stuff in there. But just like realizing like, hey, we're doing all this for you, but what what do you want? Like, that's I don't know. That's the key. So, Josh, as we wind this sucker down, like final thoughts. 00:29:52:17 - 00:30:16:09 Nick Clason Final words. What what what if anything's, like burning on your soul to get out there? Josh Boldman Oh, man. All right, well, here. I'm glad you asked, Nick. no. okay, here's the thing is. Yeah, I think we need to not be afraid of what our students want. And we need to not be afraid of them expressing their opinion. 00:30:16:11 - 00:30:48:22 Josh Boldman And we need to not be afraid of them disagreeing with each other or with us. I think that that is, you know, where where we are heading is a world that values, a diversity of opinion. And the value placed on each of those opinions, is crucial. And so, like, I mean, I think people really can very easily get confused into thinking that that means that every opinion is right or that every opinion carries the same weight. 00:30:48:22 - 00:31:09:12 Josh Boldman And it's a that's not at all what it but it. I think there is a I think we we do ourselves and honestly the gospel and miss service when we, are a disservice. I don't think Miss Service is a word, a disservice when we, when we say, here is the correct answer, we don't even want to hear anything else. 00:31:09:15 - 00:31:42:02 Josh Boldman because our students are coming into our, our, our environments with their own opinions and own presuppositions. And yes, they probably heard them all from the same TikTok channel. Like, that's fine, but they all still want it. They want to be heard. And so I think any time we can even begin to open the door to showing them that we value what they are walking in with, I think just builds, it builds credibility in their eyes. 00:31:42:05 - 00:32:07:01 Josh Boldman I think in all honesty, I don't know, you know, I would argue that most students are they do not often find themselves in environments where their opinion is valued. so, I mean, whether that's school, I mean, and please don't hear me, teachers are awesome, but it is it is tough when especially when you have like a curriculum in a, in a school environment, you're like, hey, I need you to learn this thing. 00:32:07:07 - 00:32:31:22 Josh Boldman Like, and there's not a lot of debate in biology, you know, like, it's just this is where we're at, you know? And so, but I think if we can create environments where it's, we're inviting students into a conversation where their voice matters, whether that's a, a deep theological conversation or whether that is a game that is literally, hey, I need you to pick A, B, or C because it's a trivia question. 00:32:31:22 - 00:32:57:01 Josh Boldman Like it's it like, but but still valuing what they bring to the table. I think that that pays dividends in the long run in a, in a massive, massive way. I mean, whether that's later in the small group or whether that's ten years later or, you know, I'm at a point right now where kids, when I first started that were in sixth grade, now have their own sixth graders, and that is awful. 00:32:57:03 - 00:33:14:19 Josh Boldman but but it's the same thing is those those kids are now in the place where they're deciding, am I going to bring my own kid to a youth group or not? And, you know, and I think that the way we treat our students now will influence how they raise their own families and what that looks like for them in the future. 00:33:14:19 - 00:33:34:17 Josh Boldman So, never underestimate how important it is to for for a student's voice to be valued. Yeah. And what better spot in the world than for that to happen at church? Crazy, right? Who would've thought? Yeah, well, Josh, we're running out of time. But I appreciate you, man. Anywhere, anywhere else people can find, find the Josh Boldman, like. 00:33:34:19 - 00:34:00:20 Nick Clason Oh, yeah, they want to, like, untap some of these other thoughts and deeper musings of the word is, oh, I don't know if deeper is going to be with the find, but, all the social media is, it's at Josh Boldman. I know, I'm so glad it wasn't taken. Yeah. You're lucky. all right, I know. Yeah. but then, again, you know, the download youth ministry store, you know, I mean, this is not to sell stuff, but like, a lot of the stuff I've written really does reflect where I'm at, you know? 00:34:00:20 - 00:34:09:15 Josh Boldman And so, you know, check out any of that stuff there, but. Well, yeah. Love it. Man. Will appreciate you being on. And, everyone else, we'll talk next time. All right, bye friends. cell phones, teenagers and cell phones, cell phones at church, download youth ministry, sidekick, sidekick and cell phones, youth ministry ideas, youth ministry presentation, youth ministry programming, creative youth ministry messages, Generation Alpha value, individual, church games, church ideas, church cell phone involvement, youth pastor, youth group, youth pastor coach, youth ministry coaching, digital ministry, digital integration, hybrid ministry, nick clason, josh boldman ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ

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What in the world do we do about cellphone usage during youth group?!
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Intro - How your experience got you where you are now
04:15 Sidekick's Introduction into the Digital Realm of Youth Ministry
09:00 Sidekick's most user friendly features
13:50 What's next for Sidekick?
17:36 How Sidekick aids in showing up where students are
19:25 The Recipe to Engaging Students where they are
30:42 Final Thoughts on Hybrid Ministry
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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:15 - 00:00:23:04
Nick Clason
What is up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry show. I, as always my host Nick Klassen. And I'm really excited. Today I got the one and only Josh Boldman who works at Diam now. He also has years of experience in youth ministry. And so we are going to interview Josh today. What's up everybody? I'm here with Josh Boldman. Josh how you doing this morning bro?

00:00:23:04 - 00:00:44:07
Josh Boldman
I am good man. How are you doing I'm great. I'm glad to have you on

Nick Clason
the long awaited Josh Boldman interview.

Josh Boldman
Most podcasts are still waiting. I just wanted to make it very clear.

Nick Clason
Oh man, I feel like I'm in an exclusive club. Yeah, or something.

Josh Boldman
So they just don't know. They don't know it yet, but they're still waiting.

00:00:44:07 - 00:01:10:12
Nick Clason
Yeah, they definitely are. But not me. Not us. Josh, like, tell the people, how did. Who are you and how did you get to where you are today?

Josh Boldman
Oh my gosh. Okay. That is it all started on a cold with. No. okay. So I have, right there. So I'll start with where I'm at. right now I am I am the team lead for co-leader, which is, a part of the download Youth Ministry family.

00:01:10:14 - 00:01:39:17
Josh Boldman
I also, run lead in the sidekick arena, which is our presentation software. We'll get to that. but that's only been for about the last year. before that, I spent, somewhere in the neighborhood of. Right at about 20 years in student ministry, as a youth pastor or youth minister or student pastor or student ministries director, or any of the other myriad ways that you can you can describe it.

00:01:39:19 - 00:02:03:18
Josh Boldman
but I did that. Gosh, from Florida, to Illinois, to, tiny, tiny little churches to big old churches to, single site to multi-site to we do youth ministry on Sunday morning to we do youth ministry on Wednesday nights like normal people do. all that, you know, so, you know, it's just kind of been all over the place.

00:02:03:24 - 00:02:27:24
Josh Boldman
Yeah. but for the last ten, I'll say ten. It's probably like six, but I'll say ten years. I pastor mother, with Dwight. Yeah. It's like, how many kids were there? The 400. I don't know, it was too many to count. but yeah. So I, I've been an author with Tim, putting resources like games and teaching content and countdowns and videos and stuff together for DYM.

00:02:27:27 - 00:02:47:11
Josh Boldman
And then about a year ago, they had somebody that was going on maternity leave and they're like, hey, you want to cover for that person? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And then I spent all 90 days of that maternity leave, trying to make it where there was literally no way they could let me go afterward.

00:02:47:11 - 00:03:08:12
Nick Clason
And it it worked nice.

Josh Boldman
Absolutely worked. I was it was dicey for about about 45 days. And then I was like, nah, I think I got I think, I think I got this. So she came back and I was not asked to pack up and leave. so that has worked out for everybody. Yeah. You didn't put her on the job either?

00:03:08:12 - 00:03:31:27
Josh Boldman
No, no, it's kind of great. Yeah. So, you know, it's been it's been a ride. this last year, co-leader has transitioned from a, a platform where you can plan ministry to a full blown annual curriculum. we've launched sidekick. sidekick, which is now in beta. we had Sidekick Legacy, which was a standalone app.

00:03:31:27 - 00:03:53:26
Josh Boldman
Now it's built in the browser. So you open it in Chrome and you can you can play. You know, play your presentation literally anywhere. we did that all with any I mean, it's like literally anything we could have done, we we decided we were like, hey, you know what? If we just take everything we ever want to do and we just jam it all into one calendar year, and we got this.

00:03:53:27 - 00:04:08:28
Nick Clason
Yeah, we got this guy now who's covering for this girl on maternity leave, and now we can. We had him go. So we're we need to get our money's worth out of him. That's there. Like, we have so many staff. We have so we have so many. And now, now we need to have them do things, so.

00:04:08:28 - 00:04:30:10
Nick Clason
Oh, man, I gotta say the like this, I don't there's no pitch. Like, no, like kickback. None of this. I love co-leader and I love sidekick. And, we, I made our church and I think I told you this, but we'll tell everyone I was like, I made our church by two computers so that we could run pro presenter.

00:04:30:10 - 00:04:52:19
Nick Clason
Because the musicians need the confidence monitor, like the not not what's on the screen mirror, but like what's coming. So like what? So that's valid.

Josh Boldman
So they don't practice is what you're telling me.

Nick Clason
Exactly. They're ill prepared. So I had to give them what they needed at the give the musicians you know, throw my bone. But I made them buy another computer and a like a black magic video switcher.

00:04:52:19 - 00:05:11:04
Josh Boldman
And we running everything else now. Yeah. Off of sidekick. And so, so, so what I'm hearing you say is because of the worship ministry, you guys have to rely on dark magic. Is that. What is that where he is? Oh, black. Matt. Oh, it's a black. It's a company that's different. Okay. All right. I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised either.

00:05:11:11 - 00:05:37:06
Nick Clason
Yeah, yeah, either way. But I love the like I love a lot of things about it. But my favorite part about it is the phone integration. Right. And, we played last week like a game like, multiple choice game. And they could literally play on their phones. And this was the first time I'd, I'd use that particular, like, setting there and sidekick, like the, the question with, with the quiz like type of.

00:05:37:08 - 00:06:02:05
Nick Clason
Yeah. Like what the correct answer. Yes. Yes. And I loved that. That was super fun. so talk to me just a little bit about, like, you know, you jump in. Were there rumblings and plans about sidekick being revamped or did you see some of like those opportunities and be like, this is what I see in youth ministry as a youth pastor, 20 plus years and now, yeah, I want to help kind of evolve it to the next stage, like give us that kind of background.

00:06:02:08 - 00:06:26:01
Josh Boldman
Yeah. So something that, I it's really funny because I don't know that many youth workers realize, although I feel like we should is that, software development takes billions of dollars and lots and lots of time. and so, so when I started at downloading Ministry, the plan had already been. We are revamping sidekick. I'm. You know, I'm just gonna peel back the curtain, you know?

00:06:26:01 - 00:06:50:24
Josh Boldman
You don't know. Yeah. Sorry. I took the original app. All right. Was written in a, in a programing environment that got depreciate. All right, so it is. It was built long, so it was built on something called chromium. and it it it is a like sidekick. Legacy is a work of art. Like it is a it was a game changer for me when I was in ministry.

00:06:50:24 - 00:07:14:13
Josh Boldman
The the spinning wheel boxes. Yeah. it was one of a kind. No one was. Oh, my gosh, nobody was doing it right. And then, what happened about two years ago, maybe three years ago now is chromium got depreciated. And we realized what that meant was there was now no way to update the legacy. I don't know at all, like, impossible, like literally impossible.

00:07:14:16 - 00:07:31:17
Josh Boldman
And and so it was like, okay, well, we can either rebuild a new one or we can take it in a different direction. And one of the really things that people that people hated was every time you open the legacy app, you have to sign in every single time you had to type in the password. It was a great time.

00:07:31:20 - 00:07:52:23
Josh Boldman
I got into trouble. One time I was in front of our, like our whole camp, like it was like a thousand kids, right? And sidekick was running, and then it crashed. And then they had to reopen it, and they're like, from the booth, they yell out, what's the password? No. And in front of 1000 students, I had to say a password into the microphone.

00:07:52:23 - 00:08:14:14
Josh Boldman
And here's the best part. You ready for this? It was the same password for everything. Like my my bank account and, all this stuff. So, like, so like, I immediately I started teaching, and then I get off stage and I'm like, I gotta change every password I mean, ever had. It was a nightmare. so we thought, okay, what is the best way to make this as portable as possible?

00:08:14:14 - 00:08:33:01
Josh Boldman
So we went with putting it in, in the browser. Yeah. which I'll be honest, I mean, it was basically like it was a trade off, right? It gave us a lot of, functionality as far as portability, as far as far as syncing. Yeah. but it there are trade offs, right? Like Google Chrome. both.

00:08:33:01 - 00:08:52:11
Josh Boldman
Google. Safari, Apple. you know, Firefox, they all have different rules about like window management. And so like you'll know like when you open sidekick and you go to present, you have to drag the window over to your other browser. Like that's not ideal right now. We that's why we have a video switcher now that's why. Right.

00:08:52:13 - 00:09:22:11
Josh Boldman
Yeah. That's why we that's why we as Christians rely on dark black magic. Black. It's that's what it is. and so, so, you know, so there are some trade offs for sure. For sure. But, but what we started realizing was, the, the pitch that we started telling people that when it, I think it really kind of clicked for people how how different was good is we would tell them, like, we would show them what we could do with, with voting, with spinning wheel, with, with pick me like the main ideas.

00:09:22:14 - 00:09:41:11
Josh Boldman
And I said, what's really cool is I can create this presentation. I can, immediately, as soon as I add an element to a slide, I can close the laptop, I can break it over my knee, I can set it on fire and throw it in the ocean. And then I can just go to church, open the computer, and it's it's there like it is there.

00:09:41:12 - 00:10:03:18
Josh Boldman
It does not miss a beat. you probably have to like on the computer at church, though, because yours is God's an ocean. Oh yeah. No no no no. Yeah. There's no recovering from it really at the point. Not sidekicks. Not that good yet. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. but. Yeah. So so it's, Yeah, it's it's being able to sync and being able to to go remote.

00:10:03:25 - 00:10:28:19
Josh Boldman
That's awesome. But then when we started showing people, hey, all you have to do is the same thing you did to log in on your computer, do that on your phone. And what it does is it turns your phone into a remote for the exact same presentation that's running on your presentation computer. and I mean, just suddenly being able to when you're doing polls on your phone, you can see the results, before they're even shown on the screen.

00:10:28:22 - 00:10:57:09
Josh Boldman
you can go to next, go back. You can do slide notes. You can. I mean, it did really any of the functionality that's there except for editing on the computer. You can do that literally on your phone in real time because I don't know if you've ever I'm certainly you've never been in this situation where you have a sixth grader who is so well intentioned is like, I want to run the computer and you're like, yes, that is a that is a thing a sixth grader can do.

00:10:57:09 - 00:11:26:24
Josh Boldman
You can hit the spacebar. Yeah. And and then, and then they, and then they don't, they, they just don't hit the spacebar. And so like I would always use it as just like my, my phone was, I wasn't there. So I was running it, but it was my fallback. Like I was like, okay, that kid in the back, there was one time, I swear to you, right, at an unnamed church that I worked at for a while.

00:11:26:27 - 00:11:51:12
Josh Boldman
I remember once, so I would always try, so I was a student ministry director there, and so I always I would always try, like, I would. Yeah, I was either teaching or whatever, but I would always try to do anytime I wasn't teaching, I would try to do something else. So like anytime I wasn't teaching, I would be in the booth or the, you know, doing the game or, you know, but so there's one time I'm in the booth and, and the lyrics for the songs are not firing on time.

00:11:51:12 - 00:12:18:01
Josh Boldman
And I, so I'm like, leaning over and I'm looking. The kid is watching Star Wars the movie. Like, like an actual movie on his phone. Not a TikTok, not a YouTube. No. The two hour movie, two hour movie with subtitles. And he is holding his phone like screamed. Is it because the subtitles are so small? And I'm like, hey, I know, I know, you're looking at that because words are important.

00:12:18:03 - 00:12:38:25
Josh Boldman
However, everyone else in the room is looking up here because words are important. So maybe I don't know, I don't know, that's just jump up and just jump on that. That's a win right there. Yeah. So but being able to you know when you're on stage and things go wrong there are like a couple of options. And and one of them is to make the person in the booth feel really bad.

00:12:38:25 - 00:13:00:09
Nick Clason
And that is never the right option. Right. It's never to call attention to the person messed up. But we want to sometimes. Oh oh yes, yes, yes we do. But being able to just say, okay, I've got my phone here. Hey, Mr. Cube, don't worry, I'm just going to jump it like, yeah, was that was the game changer for me.

00:13:00:11 - 00:13:22:15
Josh Boldman
and so now we're just on this journey of trying to reach full parity between the legacy version and what is right now, the lovingly called the beta version of sidekick. until it until it has all the same features. yeah. But what we're finding is that is, like I said, the original The legacy is a work of art.

00:13:22:17 - 00:13:47:09
Josh Boldman
And, right now, we are working on boxes and that is in the browser proving to be a challenging. Yeah, it is, it's just, you know, it's one of those things like, you wouldn't think like even when we first, the first go around, we did, wheel and pick me. Right. Those were the first two things. And so with the wheel, you know, you think how this is, it's a spinning wheel.

00:13:47:10 - 00:14:04:24
Josh Boldman
Like there's no. Yeah, there's nothing complicated here. Oh, but there is, friend, because pixels are square. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that or not, but pixels was great. So when you try and rotate them around and center axis that's a. Yeah. It's just it's one of those things like, you know, you think you got it.

00:14:04:24 - 00:14:21:03
Josh Boldman
And then suddenly you're like, oh, that looks really bad. And so then it just it's like you have to go right back to the drawing board and, and so, so yeah. So right now we're working on boxes. It's, it's taking a little longer than we had hoped, but but you're working with square pixels now. So square pixels.

00:14:21:06 - 00:14:35:10
Josh Boldman
We know what we're doing. Yeah. Yes. Wouldn't it be funny if like, in the like when, when it was the wheel, we had a problem because it was squares. But then like we're like, alright, now we're going to move the boxes and like just the world, like was like, you know what we figured out round pixels are better.

00:14:35:12 - 00:14:57:21
Josh Boldman
And I was like, no, no. Yeah. But but yeah. So we're that. So we got boxes, in the pipeline. we're we, we here and I know anybody that knows sidekick already. Their first question that they have been asking is what about, survey says, which is our family feud builder. Right. And, that one is, it's coming.

00:14:57:21 - 00:15:19:27
Josh Boldman
It's like, but it's it is it all takes a yeah, it all takes time. And, so, best way anybody, anybody that, you know, can help me go to sidekick.TV. There's a link there where you can, you can submit ideas and requests and you can even vote on other people's. And and that always helps us know kind of what's next.

00:15:19:29 - 00:15:36:15
Josh Boldman
yeah. But yeah, we'll drop. That'll be. We're loving it, dude. I mean, and. Oh, I, I know the sound is starting to sound like a commercial and I apologize, but it's, it's it is. It's like it's just so fun is, when, when one of the most recent things we did was we connected everyone's dim accounts to the download youth ministry.

00:15:36:15 - 00:16:04:05
Josh Boldman
If you buy something, there, he just automatically shows up. And that is that was awesome. Sweet. Because, I mean, it used to be, I don't know. I mean, you you make games for GM that are video based, right. And and when you do that those those files are massive. Like, you know, I mean, it's not uncommon for a game to be three, four gigabytes, you know, but it's also 3 or 4GB of, you know, that's 20, 30 videos for the game.

00:16:04:05 - 00:16:21:05
Josh Boldman
And so then adding each of those in is kind of a nightmare. And so we figured out a way to do it is we do it on our end once and then it when you buy it, it just you can just it shows up in your library. You click on it and it's just in that is yeah, man, I'm telling you I will.

00:16:21:08 - 00:16:38:28
Josh Boldman
I never have to worry about losing a thumb drive ever again. Yeah, because I don't know if you know this or not, but I don't know where my thumb drive it is right now. I lost it in 1997. so. Sounds like there are some important things on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Knows it was, I don't know, something.

00:16:38:28 - 00:17:04:23
Josh Boldman
Call it bitcoin. Bitcoin I don't remember. You could have been rich. You wouldn't even have to be here right now. Well I'll tell you what. Of all the things like all the things you're talking about, there's like, there's phone usage on both sides, right? So if you're presenting, you can use your phone as a remote, but if you're, you're, watching your in the audience, there are like integrations where there's like voting and games and all that stuff.

00:17:04:23 - 00:17:25:07
Nick Clason
Yeah. And, I think that's my favorite part. Like as a youth pastor now for, over ten years, like I've always been trying to figure out how to get ourselves in youth ministry. Like relevant to our students are, as opposed to, like, when they're at church, make them do something that's so completely foreign to like their current culture.

00:17:25:07 - 00:17:56:28
Nick Clason
Right? Like youth culture, like they're all messaging one another through their phones. They're all like consuming news articles and social media through their phones. And then we get to church and like the church I was at, like when I started the previous regime, no shade. but they had, like, phone lockers, like they would take kids cellphones and lock them and like, and what we're do, in my opinion, is like, okay, so we're, we're just trying to modify their behavior, but we haven't actually like change their true authentic like desire to like be here and listen.

00:17:56:28 - 00:18:19:26
Nick Clason
We just want them quieter for us. And like that we should just be better. Like, yeah. And so y'all start rolling out all this stuff on sidekick. And I'm like, here's the opportunity for us to use what is native to them in our environment and in a way that doesn't, like, break the bank anymore, because to get some of these features through other third party like platforms, we just don't have the money.

00:18:19:26 - 00:18:45:09
Nick Clason
As a youth pastor, you know what I'm saying? In your budget, whatever the case might be. So yeah, so that's my favorite part. And so I would love it if you would talk about not just necessarily like the sidekick integration, but what has been your experience and your unique perspective as a youth pastor with how what we've done in youth culture and how like we've then asked them to come to church culture and how they don't all they're like oil and water sometimes.

00:18:45:09 - 00:19:07:04
Nick Clason
Like, how are we? How can we reach students better and to find ourselves where they are, which is online, on phones, all those things.

Josh Boldman
I mean, okay, so you remember, man, even I mean, when I was growing up and especially early in my ministry, you know, it was always the, the thing was, you were always fighting against like, like travel sports, right?

00:19:07:04 - 00:19:30:07
Josh Boldman
Like that was like the, the, the bane of youth ministry existence was like, oh, we still are really, by the way. Oh, to be cool. Yeah. Oh, no doubt. But it was like, I don't know, there was like a point where I think we just we got tired of seeing no results from shame, shaming those kids. Like, it's like you want to play travel ball.

00:19:30:11 - 00:19:47:28
Josh Boldman
We'll play travel ball. Yeah. With the devil. You know, it's like that. Doesn't like it doesn't help anybody. When? When all we're doing is. Or like. Like, oh, you have a phone, go lock it up because it's, you know, it's like that, doesn't it? Yeah. What does that do? All that does is like when you're locking up a kid's phone.

00:19:48:05 - 00:20:10:09
Josh Boldman
I feel like the way that you can know that it's not working is as soon as the the time, like the lockdown is over, was the very first thing they do. They run to go get it. Yeah. Which means that it was, it was on their mind still. So it's not like you really saved you know them any, any trouble or any like you didn't gain anything by pulling it away, you know, because their attention is still stuck on it.

00:20:10:11 - 00:20:36:16
Josh Boldman
so really what I think, I think is we're seeing right now in youth ministry as a whole, in, in what we're trying to do, a sidekick is really we're trying to figure out ways to engage students, literally where they are. And so, I guess, have you, did you ever do camps where the rule was the kids couldn't even bring their phone to camp?

00:20:36:18 - 00:20:59:04
Nick Clason
I never did. No, I could have, right. But I never I always I've always run my own camp, so I make the rules. So. Yeah. And I've always been in churches or youth ministries where the goal is to bring kids who don't go to our church to camp. And like, I'm not going to get a kid and their family who's never met me, send their kid like hours away without a lifeline back to them.

00:20:59:04 - 00:21:24:10
Josh Boldman
Oh yeah. Kids. Oh, no. So I've never tried to fight that battle, but it was fake because we used to almost use that, like as an advertisement. We were like, come to camp where you get away from your phone and kids are like, I don't want to do that, you know? And so, like, there was a point where I think maybe 20 years ago, you probably could do it, but even now, it's not even just the kid, it's the parents that are like, I'm not sending my kid without their phone.

00:21:24:10 - 00:21:58:02
Josh Boldman
What's wrong with you? You know? Yeah. So, like, so what we decided to do with with sidekick is like, okay, what if instead of constantly harping on, he put your phone away or go lock it up or don't even bring it, or, you know, trying to make it seem like the phone itself was the enemy. What if we decided to say like, hey, we understand that that phone, it's an extension of you now like that just, I mean, and that, I mean, you know, I mean, I think you can get really, like, dystopian, you know, like, like Blade Runner type type vibes from, like, the phone is an extension of you, but but it is

00:21:58:03 - 00:22:21:24
Josh Boldman
mine is an extension of me like, I mean, I literally if I, I don't know when the last time I walked out of my house without my phone was like, it's not just because I didn't forget it, it's because if it's not in my pocket, it feels like I'm missing something. I feel like I know I'm missing it, and you're gonna need it, you know, like, oh, sure, it's your calendar, it's your wallet, it's your navigation, it's your everything.

00:22:21:24 - 00:22:49:12
Nick Clason
Like it. So you can't so much. That's my argument is like this. It's not going anywhere. So we can try our hardest as youth pastors and churches to fight against culture. But it's a losing battle eventually. And it's not like, oh, let's give in to culture because it's evil, right? No, no, no. It's how do we take this thing that is not moral, it's not morally right or morally wrong, but how do we take this thing and just use it as a tool?

00:22:49:12 - 00:23:07:12
Josh Boldman
It's it's a tool, 100% tool that we we would have died for 15, 20 years ago, like, oh yeah, I was talking on the last episode like we didn't have group chats 15 years ago. If you want to talk to your student, you talk to them when they came to your building and that was it. But now you can do pastoral care.

00:23:07:12 - 00:23:39:02
Nick Clason
You can, and just do a basic thing like texting. When I'm talking about something like software development right now. Yeah. So one of the things, that has been really cool to experiment with, and we've seen a couple people do this really well is is using like polls like, okay, so there's a there are different ways you can use it, but the like, so say as you're teaching, if, if you're saying something that you know is going to fly right over their heads, right?

00:23:39:05 - 00:24:11:11
Josh Boldman
Pausing literally at that moment and asking the question, hey, did you catch that? And yes or no, like literally something super simple like, did you catch that? Yes or no? And then adjusting what you say next based on their response or, we've even seen people take their entire services in like a, choose your own adventure type approach where, I mean, it is it seems minor, but it's something like, hey, we've got the worship team has two songs that they prepared, but we're only going to do one.

00:24:11:13 - 00:24:29:15
Josh Boldman
Hey, you all, they're here. Yeah. Which one you want to do? You know, or, you know, I've, done a couple teaching times where, like, so, you know, every youth pastor has, like, their, like, bag of tricks, like the, the saw or the stories that they tell that it's like, okay, I can tell this story, like drop of a hat.

00:24:29:15 - 00:25:00:17
Josh Boldman
Yeah. you know, and so, like, I, I'll start with, like, right at the beginning of a message will say, hey, guys, I can tell you one of, three stories. You know, when when I got hit by a car, one when I accidentally killed my girlfriend's cat and one when I, when I stubbed my toe, you know, and so, like, you take your pick, you know, and just let them pick, and it doesn't change anything about where that message is going, but letting them have a moment where they can speak into it.

00:25:00:17 - 00:25:27:22
Josh Boldman
Like, I guarantee you, when the room picks the story, the room pays attention to the story more. Yeah. or or even at the end, you know, be a great way to, to really, especially if you're trying to reach students that are not familiar with church a lot, you know, like that aren't around a lot is, at the end of the message just saying, like, hey, on a scale of 1 to 5, how much do you agree with what you just heard?

00:25:27:25 - 00:25:46:26
Josh Boldman
can you met and live in live results on the screen like, hey, okay, so but can you imagine how much that might change your small group conversations that are going to happen right after the lesson? If if you suddenly see, like, oh, we just talked about this and 80% of the room says, I don't agree, okay, great.

00:25:47:03 - 00:26:10:20
Josh Boldman
Then let's go to our small groups and let's see this mess out. You know, or I think that there's, there's stuff like that or or you could even say if you're doing a series, you could, you could say, hey, here are the four weeks of the series. we did the intro this week. Which one you want to hear about next week and let them pick where you're going to go, and then you have a whole week to figure out how to get there.

00:26:10:22 - 00:26:29:11
Josh Boldman
yeah. But it but I guarantee you, those students that voted are going to be more likely to be there if they know what you're talking about. And they actually helped get to to choose what that was going to be. Yeah, I think I think there's a lot there. And we're working love to say like we're working like it's like in development, right, right now.

00:26:29:11 - 00:26:49:09
Josh Boldman
But it's like I mean, one of the things on the, on the docket is, is, you know, being able to have students from their seat ask questions, be able to give feedback, you know, in real time so that you, as you're standing there on the, you know, platform with your phone that you're able to see the questions as they come in.

00:26:49:11 - 00:27:06:03
Josh Boldman
we're trying to figure out things like how to moderate those things because I don't know about you, but if you ask open ended questions and just have the answers up on the screen without, you might get some filtering. Yeah. Inappropriate answer, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, my the students that I've ever worked with are always saints and so they would not do that.

00:27:06:03 - 00:27:30:01
Nick Clason
But I would imagine yours. Well you know it's crazy is like here's another like just interesting youth culture is like I was working at a church in Chicago and it was very like it, it prided itself on we reach people who are far from God. And so, you know, that's going to come with a certain like, oh, I student and now I'm in the Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas.

00:27:30:08 - 00:27:55:00
Nick Clason
And, it's like it prides itself on being like the church for Christians almost. And like the kids, the students, they're the same, like it's oh, no doubt. Right. That's the crazy thing is what the internet has done is it's leveled that like playing field of like, yeah, certain cultures, their youth culture is very consistent now and despite the demographic.

00:27:55:00 - 00:28:16:08
Nick Clason
And so the unique part is not our students. The unique part is helping our parents understand, that the students are still the same, you know, so, you know, something, we've seen is actually really cool that somebody was doing was they were using the live polls in their lobby for parents to answer as they were dropping their kids off.

00:28:16:08 - 00:28:40:12
Josh Boldman
That's cool. And, it was yeah, it was very cool. Was like, and it was, you know, some like, minor stuff that it was like, you know, what time is your middle schoolers? Bedtime. Like, you know. Yeah. Seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. You know, just pick one, you know, stuff like that. And it was minor. But again, it's, not just that you get individuals to engage, but the fact that everybody can see the responses as it as it goes.

00:28:40:14 - 00:29:09:00
Josh Boldman
There's, I think there's a lot of even still some untapped, untapped potential there. think about how to help people engage. Yeah. I think, we went to a conference a while back, and they're talking about the differences in generational ways of thinking. And like one of the things and I think this is true, despite like being an older, older generation of like all of us, but like Gen Z, Gen Alpha, like they're just looking to be known individually, like they don't want to be part of, like a sea of numbers.

00:29:09:00 - 00:29:32:20
Nick Clason
Right. And so when you are in a bigger context and you have 100,000 kids, like it's hard to it's hard for them to, to stand out and stuff like this helps them get to just yeah, speak their, their voice. Right. And they get to play a role. And even if they're voting for something and their choice doesn't get picked like they were heard and that's oh yeah, that's all it needs to be.

00:29:32:20 - 00:29:52:17
Nick Clason
It doesn't have to always go their way, you know? And there's probably some opportunity for them to learn some life lessons and stuff in there. But just like realizing like, hey, we're doing all this for you, but what what do you want? Like, that's I don't know. That's the key. So, Josh, as we wind this sucker down, like final thoughts.

00:29:52:17 - 00:30:16:09
Nick Clason
Final words. What what what if anything's, like burning on your soul to get out there?

Josh Boldman
Oh, man. All right, well, here. I'm glad you asked, Nick. no. okay, here's the thing is. Yeah, I think we need to not be afraid of what our students want. And we need to not be afraid of them expressing their opinion.

00:30:16:11 - 00:30:48:22
Josh Boldman
And we need to not be afraid of them disagreeing with each other or with us. I think that that is, you know, where where we are heading is a world that values, a diversity of opinion. And the value placed on each of those opinions, is crucial. And so, like, I mean, I think people really can very easily get confused into thinking that that means that every opinion is right or that every opinion carries the same weight.

00:30:48:22 - 00:31:09:12
Josh Boldman
And it's a that's not at all what it but it. I think there is a I think we we do ourselves and honestly the gospel and miss service when we, are a disservice. I don't think Miss Service is a word, a disservice when we, when we say, here is the correct answer, we don't even want to hear anything else.

00:31:09:15 - 00:31:42:02
Josh Boldman
because our students are coming into our, our, our environments with their own opinions and own presuppositions. And yes, they probably heard them all from the same TikTok channel. Like, that's fine, but they all still want it. They want to be heard. And so I think any time we can even begin to open the door to showing them that we value what they are walking in with, I think just builds, it builds credibility in their eyes.

00:31:42:05 - 00:32:07:01
Josh Boldman
I think in all honesty, I don't know, you know, I would argue that most students are they do not often find themselves in environments where their opinion is valued. so, I mean, whether that's school, I mean, and please don't hear me, teachers are awesome, but it is it is tough when especially when you have like a curriculum in a, in a school environment, you're like, hey, I need you to learn this thing.

00:32:07:07 - 00:32:31:22
Josh Boldman
Like, and there's not a lot of debate in biology, you know, like, it's just this is where we're at, you know? And so, but I think if we can create environments where it's, we're inviting students into a conversation where their voice matters, whether that's a, a deep theological conversation or whether that is a game that is literally, hey, I need you to pick A, B, or C because it's a trivia question.

00:32:31:22 - 00:32:57:01
Josh Boldman
Like it's it like, but but still valuing what they bring to the table. I think that that pays dividends in the long run in a, in a massive, massive way. I mean, whether that's later in the small group or whether that's ten years later or, you know, I'm at a point right now where kids, when I first started that were in sixth grade, now have their own sixth graders, and that is awful.

00:32:57:03 - 00:33:14:19
Josh Boldman
but but it's the same thing is those those kids are now in the place where they're deciding, am I going to bring my own kid to a youth group or not? And, you know, and I think that the way we treat our students now will influence how they raise their own families and what that looks like for them in the future.

00:33:14:19 - 00:33:34:17
Josh Boldman
So, never underestimate how important it is to for for a student's voice to be valued. Yeah. And what better spot in the world than for that to happen at church? Crazy, right? Who would've thought? Yeah, well, Josh, we're running out of time. But I appreciate you, man. Anywhere, anywhere else people can find, find the Josh Boldman, like.

00:33:34:19 - 00:34:00:20
Nick Clason
Oh, yeah, they want to, like, untap some of these other thoughts and deeper musings of the word is, oh, I don't know if deeper is going to be with the find, but, all the social media is, it's at Josh Boldman. I know, I'm so glad it wasn't taken. Yeah. You're lucky. all right, I know. Yeah. but then, again, you know, the download youth ministry store, you know, I mean, this is not to sell stuff, but like, a lot of the stuff I've written really does reflect where I'm at, you know?

00:34:00:20 - 00:34:09:15
Josh Boldman
And so, you know, check out any of that stuff there, but. Well, yeah. Love it. Man. Will appreciate you being on. And, everyone else, we'll talk next time. All right, bye friends.

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00:00:00:15 - 00:00:23:04
Nick Clason
What is up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry show. I, as always my host Nick Klassen. And I'm really excited. Today I got the one and only Josh Boldman who works at Diam now. He also has years of experience in youth ministry. And so we are going to interview Josh today. What's up everybody? I'm here with Josh Boldman. Josh how you doing this morning bro?

00:00:23:04 - 00:00:44:07
Josh Boldman
I am good man. How are you doing I'm great. I'm glad to have you on

Nick Clason
the long awaited Josh Boldman interview.

Josh Boldman
Most podcasts are still waiting. I just wanted to make it very clear.

Nick Clason
Oh man, I feel like I'm in an exclusive club. Yeah, or something.

Josh Boldman
So they just don't know. They don't know it yet, but they're still waiting.

00:00:44:07 - 00:01:10:12
Nick Clason
Yeah, they definitely are. But not me. Not us. Josh, like, tell the people, how did. Who are you and how did you get to where you are today?

Josh Boldman
Oh my gosh. Okay. That is it all started on a cold with. No. okay. So I have, right there. So I'll start with where I'm at. right now I am I am the team lead for co-leader, which is, a part of the download Youth Ministry family.

00:01:10:14 - 00:01:39:17
Josh Boldman
I also, run lead in the sidekick arena, which is our presentation software. We'll get to that. but that's only been for about the last year. before that, I spent, somewhere in the neighborhood of. Right at about 20 years in student ministry, as a youth pastor or youth minister or student pastor or student ministries director, or any of the other myriad ways that you can you can describe it.

00:01:39:19 - 00:02:03:18
Josh Boldman
but I did that. Gosh, from Florida, to Illinois, to, tiny, tiny little churches to big old churches to, single site to multi-site to we do youth ministry on Sunday morning to we do youth ministry on Wednesday nights like normal people do. all that, you know, so, you know, it's just kind of been all over the place.

00:02:03:24 - 00:02:27:24
Josh Boldman
Yeah. but for the last ten, I'll say ten. It's probably like six, but I'll say ten years. I pastor mother, with Dwight. Yeah. It's like, how many kids were there? The 400. I don't know, it was too many to count. but yeah. So I, I've been an author with Tim, putting resources like games and teaching content and countdowns and videos and stuff together for DYM.

00:02:27:27 - 00:02:47:11
Josh Boldman
And then about a year ago, they had somebody that was going on maternity leave and they're like, hey, you want to cover for that person? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And then I spent all 90 days of that maternity leave, trying to make it where there was literally no way they could let me go afterward.

00:02:47:11 - 00:03:08:12
Nick Clason
And it it worked nice.

Josh Boldman
Absolutely worked. I was it was dicey for about about 45 days. And then I was like, nah, I think I got I think, I think I got this. So she came back and I was not asked to pack up and leave. so that has worked out for everybody. Yeah. You didn't put her on the job either?

00:03:08:12 - 00:03:31:27
Josh Boldman
No, no, it's kind of great. Yeah. So, you know, it's been it's been a ride. this last year, co-leader has transitioned from a, a platform where you can plan ministry to a full blown annual curriculum. we've launched sidekick. sidekick, which is now in beta. we had Sidekick Legacy, which was a standalone app.

00:03:31:27 - 00:03:53:26
Josh Boldman
Now it's built in the browser. So you open it in Chrome and you can you can play. You know, play your presentation literally anywhere. we did that all with any I mean, it's like literally anything we could have done, we we decided we were like, hey, you know what? If we just take everything we ever want to do and we just jam it all into one calendar year, and we got this.

00:03:53:27 - 00:04:08:28
Nick Clason
Yeah, we got this guy now who's covering for this girl on maternity leave, and now we can. We had him go. So we're we need to get our money's worth out of him. That's there. Like, we have so many staff. We have so we have so many. And now, now we need to have them do things, so.

00:04:08:28 - 00:04:30:10
Nick Clason
Oh, man, I gotta say the like this, I don't there's no pitch. Like, no, like kickback. None of this. I love co-leader and I love sidekick. And, we, I made our church and I think I told you this, but we'll tell everyone I was like, I made our church by two computers so that we could run pro presenter.

00:04:30:10 - 00:04:52:19
Nick Clason
Because the musicians need the confidence monitor, like the not not what's on the screen mirror, but like what's coming. So like what? So that's valid.

Josh Boldman
So they don't practice is what you're telling me.

Nick Clason
Exactly. They're ill prepared. So I had to give them what they needed at the give the musicians you know, throw my bone. But I made them buy another computer and a like a black magic video switcher.

00:04:52:19 - 00:05:11:04
Josh Boldman
And we running everything else now. Yeah. Off of sidekick. And so, so, so what I'm hearing you say is because of the worship ministry, you guys have to rely on dark magic. Is that. What is that where he is? Oh, black. Matt. Oh, it's a black. It's a company that's different. Okay. All right. I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised either.

00:05:11:11 - 00:05:37:06
Nick Clason
Yeah, yeah, either way. But I love the like I love a lot of things about it. But my favorite part about it is the phone integration. Right. And, we played last week like a game like, multiple choice game. And they could literally play on their phones. And this was the first time I'd, I'd use that particular, like, setting there and sidekick, like the, the question with, with the quiz like type of.

00:05:37:08 - 00:06:02:05
Nick Clason
Yeah. Like what the correct answer. Yes. Yes. And I loved that. That was super fun. so talk to me just a little bit about, like, you know, you jump in. Were there rumblings and plans about sidekick being revamped or did you see some of like those opportunities and be like, this is what I see in youth ministry as a youth pastor, 20 plus years and now, yeah, I want to help kind of evolve it to the next stage, like give us that kind of background.

00:06:02:08 - 00:06:26:01
Josh Boldman
Yeah. So something that, I it's really funny because I don't know that many youth workers realize, although I feel like we should is that, software development takes billions of dollars and lots and lots of time. and so, so when I started at downloading Ministry, the plan had already been. We are revamping sidekick. I'm. You know, I'm just gonna peel back the curtain, you know?

00:06:26:01 - 00:06:50:24
Josh Boldman
You don't know. Yeah. Sorry. I took the original app. All right. Was written in a, in a programing environment that got depreciate. All right, so it is. It was built long, so it was built on something called chromium. and it it it is a like sidekick. Legacy is a work of art. Like it is a it was a game changer for me when I was in ministry.

00:06:50:24 - 00:07:14:13
Josh Boldman
The the spinning wheel boxes. Yeah. it was one of a kind. No one was. Oh, my gosh, nobody was doing it right. And then, what happened about two years ago, maybe three years ago now is chromium got depreciated. And we realized what that meant was there was now no way to update the legacy. I don't know at all, like, impossible, like literally impossible.

00:07:14:16 - 00:07:31:17
Josh Boldman
And and so it was like, okay, well, we can either rebuild a new one or we can take it in a different direction. And one of the really things that people that people hated was every time you open the legacy app, you have to sign in every single time you had to type in the password. It was a great time.

00:07:31:20 - 00:07:52:23
Josh Boldman
I got into trouble. One time I was in front of our, like our whole camp, like it was like a thousand kids, right? And sidekick was running, and then it crashed. And then they had to reopen it, and they're like, from the booth, they yell out, what's the password? No. And in front of 1000 students, I had to say a password into the microphone.

00:07:52:23 - 00:08:14:14
Josh Boldman
And here's the best part. You ready for this? It was the same password for everything. Like my my bank account and, all this stuff. So, like, so like, I immediately I started teaching, and then I get off stage and I'm like, I gotta change every password I mean, ever had. It was a nightmare. so we thought, okay, what is the best way to make this as portable as possible?

00:08:14:14 - 00:08:33:01
Josh Boldman
So we went with putting it in, in the browser. Yeah. which I'll be honest, I mean, it was basically like it was a trade off, right? It gave us a lot of, functionality as far as portability, as far as far as syncing. Yeah. but it there are trade offs, right? Like Google Chrome. both.

00:08:33:01 - 00:08:52:11
Josh Boldman
Google. Safari, Apple. you know, Firefox, they all have different rules about like window management. And so like you'll know like when you open sidekick and you go to present, you have to drag the window over to your other browser. Like that's not ideal right now. We that's why we have a video switcher now that's why. Right.

00:08:52:13 - 00:09:22:11
Josh Boldman
Yeah. That's why we that's why we as Christians rely on dark black magic. Black. It's that's what it is. and so, so, you know, so there are some trade offs for sure. For sure. But, but what we started realizing was, the, the pitch that we started telling people that when it, I think it really kind of clicked for people how how different was good is we would tell them, like, we would show them what we could do with, with voting, with spinning wheel, with, with pick me like the main ideas.

00:09:22:14 - 00:09:41:11
Josh Boldman
And I said, what's really cool is I can create this presentation. I can, immediately, as soon as I add an element to a slide, I can close the laptop, I can break it over my knee, I can set it on fire and throw it in the ocean. And then I can just go to church, open the computer, and it's it's there like it is there.

00:09:41:12 - 00:10:03:18
Josh Boldman
It does not miss a beat. you probably have to like on the computer at church, though, because yours is God's an ocean. Oh yeah. No no no no. Yeah. There's no recovering from it really at the point. Not sidekicks. Not that good yet. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. but. Yeah. So so it's, Yeah, it's it's being able to sync and being able to to go remote.

00:10:03:25 - 00:10:28:19
Josh Boldman
That's awesome. But then when we started showing people, hey, all you have to do is the same thing you did to log in on your computer, do that on your phone. And what it does is it turns your phone into a remote for the exact same presentation that's running on your presentation computer. and I mean, just suddenly being able to when you're doing polls on your phone, you can see the results, before they're even shown on the screen.

00:10:28:22 - 00:10:57:09
Josh Boldman
you can go to next, go back. You can do slide notes. You can. I mean, it did really any of the functionality that's there except for editing on the computer. You can do that literally on your phone in real time because I don't know if you've ever I'm certainly you've never been in this situation where you have a sixth grader who is so well intentioned is like, I want to run the computer and you're like, yes, that is a that is a thing a sixth grader can do.

00:10:57:09 - 00:11:26:24
Josh Boldman
You can hit the spacebar. Yeah. And and then, and then they, and then they don't, they, they just don't hit the spacebar. And so like I would always use it as just like my, my phone was, I wasn't there. So I was running it, but it was my fallback. Like I was like, okay, that kid in the back, there was one time, I swear to you, right, at an unnamed church that I worked at for a while.

00:11:26:27 - 00:11:51:12
Josh Boldman
I remember once, so I would always try, so I was a student ministry director there, and so I always I would always try, like, I would. Yeah, I was either teaching or whatever, but I would always try to do anytime I wasn't teaching, I would try to do something else. So like anytime I wasn't teaching, I would be in the booth or the, you know, doing the game or, you know, but so there's one time I'm in the booth and, and the lyrics for the songs are not firing on time.

00:11:51:12 - 00:12:18:01
Josh Boldman
And I, so I'm like, leaning over and I'm looking. The kid is watching Star Wars the movie. Like, like an actual movie on his phone. Not a TikTok, not a YouTube. No. The two hour movie, two hour movie with subtitles. And he is holding his phone like screamed. Is it because the subtitles are so small? And I'm like, hey, I know, I know, you're looking at that because words are important.

00:12:18:03 - 00:12:38:25
Josh Boldman
However, everyone else in the room is looking up here because words are important. So maybe I don't know, I don't know, that's just jump up and just jump on that. That's a win right there. Yeah. So but being able to you know when you're on stage and things go wrong there are like a couple of options. And and one of them is to make the person in the booth feel really bad.

00:12:38:25 - 00:13:00:09
Nick Clason
And that is never the right option. Right. It's never to call attention to the person messed up. But we want to sometimes. Oh oh yes, yes, yes we do. But being able to just say, okay, I've got my phone here. Hey, Mr. Cube, don't worry, I'm just going to jump it like, yeah, was that was the game changer for me.

00:13:00:11 - 00:13:22:15
Josh Boldman
and so now we're just on this journey of trying to reach full parity between the legacy version and what is right now, the lovingly called the beta version of sidekick. until it until it has all the same features. yeah. But what we're finding is that is, like I said, the original The legacy is a work of art.

00:13:22:17 - 00:13:47:09
Josh Boldman
And, right now, we are working on boxes and that is in the browser proving to be a challenging. Yeah, it is, it's just, you know, it's one of those things like, you wouldn't think like even when we first, the first go around, we did, wheel and pick me. Right. Those were the first two things. And so with the wheel, you know, you think how this is, it's a spinning wheel.

00:13:47:10 - 00:14:04:24
Josh Boldman
Like there's no. Yeah, there's nothing complicated here. Oh, but there is, friend, because pixels are square. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that or not, but pixels was great. So when you try and rotate them around and center axis that's a. Yeah. It's just it's one of those things like, you know, you think you got it.

00:14:04:24 - 00:14:21:03
Josh Boldman
And then suddenly you're like, oh, that looks really bad. And so then it just it's like you have to go right back to the drawing board and, and so, so yeah. So right now we're working on boxes. It's, it's taking a little longer than we had hoped, but but you're working with square pixels now. So square pixels.

00:14:21:06 - 00:14:35:10
Josh Boldman
We know what we're doing. Yeah. Yes. Wouldn't it be funny if like, in the like when, when it was the wheel, we had a problem because it was squares. But then like we're like, alright, now we're going to move the boxes and like just the world, like was like, you know what we figured out round pixels are better.

00:14:35:12 - 00:14:57:21
Josh Boldman
And I was like, no, no. Yeah. But but yeah. So we're that. So we got boxes, in the pipeline. we're we, we here and I know anybody that knows sidekick already. Their first question that they have been asking is what about, survey says, which is our family feud builder. Right. And, that one is, it's coming.

00:14:57:21 - 00:15:19:27
Josh Boldman
It's like, but it's it is it all takes a yeah, it all takes time. And, so, best way anybody, anybody that, you know, can help me go to sidekick.TV. There's a link there where you can, you can submit ideas and requests and you can even vote on other people's. And and that always helps us know kind of what's next.

00:15:19:29 - 00:15:36:15
Josh Boldman
yeah. But yeah, we'll drop. That'll be. We're loving it, dude. I mean, and. Oh, I, I know the sound is starting to sound like a commercial and I apologize, but it's, it's it is. It's like it's just so fun is, when, when one of the most recent things we did was we connected everyone's dim accounts to the download youth ministry.

00:15:36:15 - 00:16:04:05
Josh Boldman
If you buy something, there, he just automatically shows up. And that is that was awesome. Sweet. Because, I mean, it used to be, I don't know. I mean, you you make games for GM that are video based, right. And and when you do that those those files are massive. Like, you know, I mean, it's not uncommon for a game to be three, four gigabytes, you know, but it's also 3 or 4GB of, you know, that's 20, 30 videos for the game.

00:16:04:05 - 00:16:21:05
Josh Boldman
And so then adding each of those in is kind of a nightmare. And so we figured out a way to do it is we do it on our end once and then it when you buy it, it just you can just it shows up in your library. You click on it and it's just in that is yeah, man, I'm telling you I will.

00:16:21:08 - 00:16:38:28
Josh Boldman
I never have to worry about losing a thumb drive ever again. Yeah, because I don't know if you know this or not, but I don't know where my thumb drive it is right now. I lost it in 1997. so. Sounds like there are some important things on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Knows it was, I don't know, something.

00:16:38:28 - 00:17:04:23
Josh Boldman
Call it bitcoin. Bitcoin I don't remember. You could have been rich. You wouldn't even have to be here right now. Well I'll tell you what. Of all the things like all the things you're talking about, there's like, there's phone usage on both sides, right? So if you're presenting, you can use your phone as a remote, but if you're, you're, watching your in the audience, there are like integrations where there's like voting and games and all that stuff.

00:17:04:23 - 00:17:25:07
Nick Clason
Yeah. And, I think that's my favorite part. Like as a youth pastor now for, over ten years, like I've always been trying to figure out how to get ourselves in youth ministry. Like relevant to our students are, as opposed to, like, when they're at church, make them do something that's so completely foreign to like their current culture.

00:17:25:07 - 00:17:56:28
Nick Clason
Right? Like youth culture, like they're all messaging one another through their phones. They're all like consuming news articles and social media through their phones. And then we get to church and like the church I was at, like when I started the previous regime, no shade. but they had, like, phone lockers, like they would take kids cellphones and lock them and like, and what we're do, in my opinion, is like, okay, so we're, we're just trying to modify their behavior, but we haven't actually like change their true authentic like desire to like be here and listen.

00:17:56:28 - 00:18:19:26
Nick Clason
We just want them quieter for us. And like that we should just be better. Like, yeah. And so y'all start rolling out all this stuff on sidekick. And I'm like, here's the opportunity for us to use what is native to them in our environment and in a way that doesn't, like, break the bank anymore, because to get some of these features through other third party like platforms, we just don't have the money.

00:18:19:26 - 00:18:45:09
Nick Clason
As a youth pastor, you know what I'm saying? In your budget, whatever the case might be. So yeah, so that's my favorite part. And so I would love it if you would talk about not just necessarily like the sidekick integration, but what has been your experience and your unique perspective as a youth pastor with how what we've done in youth culture and how like we've then asked them to come to church culture and how they don't all they're like oil and water sometimes.

00:18:45:09 - 00:19:07:04
Nick Clason
Like, how are we? How can we reach students better and to find ourselves where they are, which is online, on phones, all those things.

Josh Boldman
I mean, okay, so you remember, man, even I mean, when I was growing up and especially early in my ministry, you know, it was always the, the thing was, you were always fighting against like, like travel sports, right?

00:19:07:04 - 00:19:30:07
Josh Boldman
Like that was like the, the, the bane of youth ministry existence was like, oh, we still are really, by the way. Oh, to be cool. Yeah. Oh, no doubt. But it was like, I don't know, there was like a point where I think we just we got tired of seeing no results from shame, shaming those kids. Like, it's like you want to play travel ball.

00:19:30:11 - 00:19:47:28
Josh Boldman
We'll play travel ball. Yeah. With the devil. You know, it's like that. Doesn't like it doesn't help anybody. When? When all we're doing is. Or like. Like, oh, you have a phone, go lock it up because it's, you know, it's like that, doesn't it? Yeah. What does that do? All that does is like when you're locking up a kid's phone.

00:19:48:05 - 00:20:10:09
Josh Boldman
I feel like the way that you can know that it's not working is as soon as the the time, like the lockdown is over, was the very first thing they do. They run to go get it. Yeah. Which means that it was, it was on their mind still. So it's not like you really saved you know them any, any trouble or any like you didn't gain anything by pulling it away, you know, because their attention is still stuck on it.

00:20:10:11 - 00:20:36:16
Josh Boldman
so really what I think, I think is we're seeing right now in youth ministry as a whole, in, in what we're trying to do, a sidekick is really we're trying to figure out ways to engage students, literally where they are. And so, I guess, have you, did you ever do camps where the rule was the kids couldn't even bring their phone to camp?

00:20:36:18 - 00:20:59:04
Nick Clason
I never did. No, I could have, right. But I never I always I've always run my own camp, so I make the rules. So. Yeah. And I've always been in churches or youth ministries where the goal is to bring kids who don't go to our church to camp. And like, I'm not going to get a kid and their family who's never met me, send their kid like hours away without a lifeline back to them.

00:20:59:04 - 00:21:24:10
Josh Boldman
Oh yeah. Kids. Oh, no. So I've never tried to fight that battle, but it was fake because we used to almost use that, like as an advertisement. We were like, come to camp where you get away from your phone and kids are like, I don't want to do that, you know? And so, like, there was a point where I think maybe 20 years ago, you probably could do it, but even now, it's not even just the kid, it's the parents that are like, I'm not sending my kid without their phone.

00:21:24:10 - 00:21:58:02
Josh Boldman
What's wrong with you? You know? Yeah. So, like, so what we decided to do with with sidekick is like, okay, what if instead of constantly harping on, he put your phone away or go lock it up or don't even bring it, or, you know, trying to make it seem like the phone itself was the enemy. What if we decided to say like, hey, we understand that that phone, it's an extension of you now like that just, I mean, and that, I mean, you know, I mean, I think you can get really, like, dystopian, you know, like, like Blade Runner type type vibes from, like, the phone is an extension of you, but but it is

00:21:58:03 - 00:22:21:24
Josh Boldman
mine is an extension of me like, I mean, I literally if I, I don't know when the last time I walked out of my house without my phone was like, it's not just because I didn't forget it, it's because if it's not in my pocket, it feels like I'm missing something. I feel like I know I'm missing it, and you're gonna need it, you know, like, oh, sure, it's your calendar, it's your wallet, it's your navigation, it's your everything.

00:22:21:24 - 00:22:49:12
Nick Clason
Like it. So you can't so much. That's my argument is like this. It's not going anywhere. So we can try our hardest as youth pastors and churches to fight against culture. But it's a losing battle eventually. And it's not like, oh, let's give in to culture because it's evil, right? No, no, no. It's how do we take this thing that is not moral, it's not morally right or morally wrong, but how do we take this thing and just use it as a tool?

00:22:49:12 - 00:23:07:12
Josh Boldman
It's it's a tool, 100% tool that we we would have died for 15, 20 years ago, like, oh yeah, I was talking on the last episode like we didn't have group chats 15 years ago. If you want to talk to your student, you talk to them when they came to your building and that was it. But now you can do pastoral care.

00:23:07:12 - 00:23:39:02
Nick Clason
You can, and just do a basic thing like texting. When I'm talking about something like software development right now. Yeah. So one of the things, that has been really cool to experiment with, and we've seen a couple people do this really well is is using like polls like, okay, so there's a there are different ways you can use it, but the like, so say as you're teaching, if, if you're saying something that you know is going to fly right over their heads, right?

00:23:39:05 - 00:24:11:11
Josh Boldman
Pausing literally at that moment and asking the question, hey, did you catch that? And yes or no, like literally something super simple like, did you catch that? Yes or no? And then adjusting what you say next based on their response or, we've even seen people take their entire services in like a, choose your own adventure type approach where, I mean, it is it seems minor, but it's something like, hey, we've got the worship team has two songs that they prepared, but we're only going to do one.

00:24:11:13 - 00:24:29:15
Josh Boldman
Hey, you all, they're here. Yeah. Which one you want to do? You know, or, you know, I've, done a couple teaching times where, like, so, you know, every youth pastor has, like, their, like, bag of tricks, like the, the saw or the stories that they tell that it's like, okay, I can tell this story, like drop of a hat.

00:24:29:15 - 00:25:00:17
Josh Boldman
Yeah. you know, and so, like, I, I'll start with, like, right at the beginning of a message will say, hey, guys, I can tell you one of, three stories. You know, when when I got hit by a car, one when I accidentally killed my girlfriend's cat and one when I, when I stubbed my toe, you know, and so, like, you take your pick, you know, and just let them pick, and it doesn't change anything about where that message is going, but letting them have a moment where they can speak into it.

00:25:00:17 - 00:25:27:22
Josh Boldman
Like, I guarantee you, when the room picks the story, the room pays attention to the story more. Yeah. or or even at the end, you know, be a great way to, to really, especially if you're trying to reach students that are not familiar with church a lot, you know, like that aren't around a lot is, at the end of the message just saying, like, hey, on a scale of 1 to 5, how much do you agree with what you just heard?

00:25:27:25 - 00:25:46:26
Josh Boldman
can you met and live in live results on the screen like, hey, okay, so but can you imagine how much that might change your small group conversations that are going to happen right after the lesson? If if you suddenly see, like, oh, we just talked about this and 80% of the room says, I don't agree, okay, great.

00:25:47:03 - 00:26:10:20
Josh Boldman
Then let's go to our small groups and let's see this mess out. You know, or I think that there's, there's stuff like that or or you could even say if you're doing a series, you could, you could say, hey, here are the four weeks of the series. we did the intro this week. Which one you want to hear about next week and let them pick where you're going to go, and then you have a whole week to figure out how to get there.

00:26:10:22 - 00:26:29:11
Josh Boldman
yeah. But it but I guarantee you, those students that voted are going to be more likely to be there if they know what you're talking about. And they actually helped get to to choose what that was going to be. Yeah, I think I think there's a lot there. And we're working love to say like we're working like it's like in development, right, right now.

00:26:29:11 - 00:26:49:09
Josh Boldman
But it's like I mean, one of the things on the, on the docket is, is, you know, being able to have students from their seat ask questions, be able to give feedback, you know, in real time so that you, as you're standing there on the, you know, platform with your phone that you're able to see the questions as they come in.

00:26:49:11 - 00:27:06:03
Josh Boldman
we're trying to figure out things like how to moderate those things because I don't know about you, but if you ask open ended questions and just have the answers up on the screen without, you might get some filtering. Yeah. Inappropriate answer, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, my the students that I've ever worked with are always saints and so they would not do that.

00:27:06:03 - 00:27:30:01
Nick Clason
But I would imagine yours. Well you know it's crazy is like here's another like just interesting youth culture is like I was working at a church in Chicago and it was very like it, it prided itself on we reach people who are far from God. And so, you know, that's going to come with a certain like, oh, I student and now I'm in the Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas.

00:27:30:08 - 00:27:55:00
Nick Clason
And, it's like it prides itself on being like the church for Christians almost. And like the kids, the students, they're the same, like it's oh, no doubt. Right. That's the crazy thing is what the internet has done is it's leveled that like playing field of like, yeah, certain cultures, their youth culture is very consistent now and despite the demographic.

00:27:55:00 - 00:28:16:08
Nick Clason
And so the unique part is not our students. The unique part is helping our parents understand, that the students are still the same, you know, so, you know, something, we've seen is actually really cool that somebody was doing was they were using the live polls in their lobby for parents to answer as they were dropping their kids off.

00:28:16:08 - 00:28:40:12
Josh Boldman
That's cool. And, it was yeah, it was very cool. Was like, and it was, you know, some like, minor stuff that it was like, you know, what time is your middle schoolers? Bedtime. Like, you know. Yeah. Seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. You know, just pick one, you know, stuff like that. And it was minor. But again, it's, not just that you get individuals to engage, but the fact that everybody can see the responses as it as it goes.

00:28:40:14 - 00:29:09:00
Josh Boldman
There's, I think there's a lot of even still some untapped, untapped potential there. think about how to help people engage. Yeah. I think, we went to a conference a while back, and they're talking about the differences in generational ways of thinking. And like one of the things and I think this is true, despite like being an older, older generation of like all of us, but like Gen Z, Gen Alpha, like they're just looking to be known individually, like they don't want to be part of, like a sea of numbers.

00:29:09:00 - 00:29:32:20
Nick Clason
Right. And so when you are in a bigger context and you have 100,000 kids, like it's hard to it's hard for them to, to stand out and stuff like this helps them get to just yeah, speak their, their voice. Right. And they get to play a role. And even if they're voting for something and their choice doesn't get picked like they were heard and that's oh yeah, that's all it needs to be.

00:29:32:20 - 00:29:52:17
Nick Clason
It doesn't have to always go their way, you know? And there's probably some opportunity for them to learn some life lessons and stuff in there. But just like realizing like, hey, we're doing all this for you, but what what do you want? Like, that's I don't know. That's the key. So, Josh, as we wind this sucker down, like final thoughts.

00:29:52:17 - 00:30:16:09
Nick Clason
Final words. What what what if anything's, like burning on your soul to get out there?

Josh Boldman
Oh, man. All right, well, here. I'm glad you asked, Nick. no. okay, here's the thing is. Yeah, I think we need to not be afraid of what our students want. And we need to not be afraid of them expressing their opinion.

00:30:16:11 - 00:30:48:22
Josh Boldman
And we need to not be afraid of them disagreeing with each other or with us. I think that that is, you know, where where we are heading is a world that values, a diversity of opinion. And the value placed on each of those opinions, is crucial. And so, like, I mean, I think people really can very easily get confused into thinking that that means that every opinion is right or that every opinion carries the same weight.

00:30:48:22 - 00:31:09:12
Josh Boldman
And it's a that's not at all what it but it. I think there is a I think we we do ourselves and honestly the gospel and miss service when we, are a disservice. I don't think Miss Service is a word, a disservice when we, when we say, here is the correct answer, we don't even want to hear anything else.

00:31:09:15 - 00:31:42:02
Josh Boldman
because our students are coming into our, our, our environments with their own opinions and own presuppositions. And yes, they probably heard them all from the same TikTok channel. Like, that's fine, but they all still want it. They want to be heard. And so I think any time we can even begin to open the door to showing them that we value what they are walking in with, I think just builds, it builds credibility in their eyes.

00:31:42:05 - 00:32:07:01
Josh Boldman
I think in all honesty, I don't know, you know, I would argue that most students are they do not often find themselves in environments where their opinion is valued. so, I mean, whether that's school, I mean, and please don't hear me, teachers are awesome, but it is it is tough when especially when you have like a curriculum in a, in a school environment, you're like, hey, I need you to learn this thing.

00:32:07:07 - 00:32:31:22
Josh Boldman
Like, and there's not a lot of debate in biology, you know, like, it's just this is where we're at, you know? And so, but I think if we can create environments where it's, we're inviting students into a conversation where their voice matters, whether that's a, a deep theological conversation or whether that is a game that is literally, hey, I need you to pick A, B, or C because it's a trivia question.

00:32:31:22 - 00:32:57:01
Josh Boldman
Like it's it like, but but still valuing what they bring to the table. I think that that pays dividends in the long run in a, in a massive, massive way. I mean, whether that's later in the small group or whether that's ten years later or, you know, I'm at a point right now where kids, when I first started that were in sixth grade, now have their own sixth graders, and that is awful.

00:32:57:03 - 00:33:14:19
Josh Boldman
but but it's the same thing is those those kids are now in the place where they're deciding, am I going to bring my own kid to a youth group or not? And, you know, and I think that the way we treat our students now will influence how they raise their own families and what that looks like for them in the future.

00:33:14:19 - 00:33:34:17
Josh Boldman
So, never underestimate how important it is to for for a student's voice to be valued. Yeah. And what better spot in the world than for that to happen at church? Crazy, right? Who would've thought? Yeah, well, Josh, we're running out of time. But I appreciate you, man. Anywhere, anywhere else people can find, find the Josh Boldman, like.

00:33:34:19 - 00:34:00:20
Nick Clason
Oh, yeah, they want to, like, untap some of these other thoughts and deeper musings of the word is, oh, I don't know if deeper is going to be with the find, but, all the social media is, it's at Josh Boldman. I know, I'm so glad it wasn't taken. Yeah. You're lucky. all right, I know. Yeah. but then, again, you know, the download youth ministry store, you know, I mean, this is not to sell stuff, but like, a lot of the stuff I've written really does reflect where I'm at, you know?

00:34:00:20 - 00:34:09:15
Josh Boldman
And so, you know, check out any of that stuff there, but. Well, yeah. Love it. Man. Will appreciate you being on. And, everyone else, we'll talk next time. All right, bye friends.

]]> Episode 109: Don't be scared of Social Media with Nate Clason https://www.hybridministry.xyz/109 98105c23-aec5-4d8e-a9b6-e4c4bdd29ec8 Thu, 08 Aug 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 109 Don't be scared of Social Media with Nate Clason full Nick Clason In this video, youth pastor, Nate Clason shares his journey to posting on social media more regularly. He also shares the one key secret that has brought his group more closely together. And be sure to stick around to the very end, because live on the podcast, Nate and Nick discover one additional benefit to social media that will help youth pastors win with parents, pastors and even elders at your church! 27:40 no ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ’ฅ[CUSTOM] Hybrid Coaching๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ====================================== DESCRIPTION In this video, youth pastor, Nate Clason shares his journey to posting on social media more regularly. He also shares the one key secret that has brought his group more closely together. 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02:29 What was your original relationship with digital? 04:45 What would you say to a "regular" youth pastor? 12:10 What wins have come from social media? 19:27 What in your context has been most effective? 23:20 Additional benefits of Social -------------- โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:02 What is up everybody? 00:00:01:02 - 00:00:03:03 Welcome back to another episode 00:00:03:03 - 00:00:04:20 of the Hybrid Ministry Show 00:00:04:20 - 00:00:07:02 I am your host, Nick Clason 00:00:07:02 - 00:00:08:07 here with you as always 00:00:08:07 - 00:00:09:23 and if youโ€™ve been here the last couple of weeks 00:00:09:23 - 00:00:11:12 you know that weโ€™ve been doing some different interviews 00:00:20:22 - 00:00:24:00 It is with my brother, Nate Clason 00:00:24:00 - 00:00:26:03 Good morning, Nate, how you doing bro? 00:00:26:03 - 00:00:27:02 I'm doing pretty good. 00:00:27:02 - 00:00:28:03 Probably not better than 00:00:28:03 - 00:00:29:03 your wife, though, right? 00:00:29:03 - 00:00:30:05 Don't say that to 00:00:30:05 - 00:00:31:02 in front of anyone. 00:00:31:02 - 00:00:31:18 You know, True. 00:00:31:18 - 00:00:34:17 Well, Iโ€™ve known you longer 00:00:34:17 - 00:00:35:12 That is true. 00:00:35:12 - 00:00:36:11 But not too much longer, so. 00:00:36:11 - 00:00:38:05 Thatโ€™s probably what Iโ€™m thinking 00:00:38:05 - 00:00:38:18 when I say that 00:00:38:18 - 00:00:39:02 Yeah. 00:00:39:02 - 00:00:41:05 Yeah. 00:00:41:05 - 00:00:43:14 Nate, give us all 00:00:43:14 - 00:00:44:15 a little bit of background 00:00:44:15 - 00:00:46:19 whatโ€™s been your church 00:00:46:19 - 00:00:49:16 youth ministry, student ministry 00:00:49:16 - 00:00:51:20 experience and story 00:00:51:20 - 00:00:54:09 kinda get that conversation 00:00:54:09 - 00:00:55:24 out of the way 00:00:55:24 - 00:00:57:07 set a little bit of a baseline 00:00:57:07 - 00:00:58:19 as we dive into this 00:00:58:19 - 00:01:00:04 social media discussion 00:01:00:04 - 00:01:00:14 Yeah. 00:01:00:14 - 00:01:01:21 So I felt called 00:01:01:21 - 00:01:05:00 to, ministry at a Mexico 00:01:05:00 - 00:01:06:02 missions trip. 00:01:06:02 - 00:01:07:19 when I was in high school, 00:01:07:19 - 00:01:09:08 a late high school, 00:01:09:08 - 00:01:11:01 and actually kind of fell off. 00:01:11:01 - 00:01:12:05 my journey a little bit. 00:01:12:05 - 00:01:13:07 my journey a little bit. 00:01:13:07 - 00:01:14:01 Kind of started 00:01:14:01 - 00:01:15:14 serving, working 00:01:15:14 - 00:01:16:13 in, like, 00:01:16:13 - 00:01:18:02 the public work, you know, 00:01:18:02 - 00:01:19:15 the secular work environment 00:01:19:15 - 00:01:20:21 and just kind of saw 00:01:20:21 - 00:01:21:13 I wasn't called 00:01:21:13 - 00:01:22:16 the ministry anymore 00:01:22:16 - 00:01:23:15 and got connected 00:01:23:15 - 00:01:25:13 one day at my custodian 00:01:25:13 - 00:01:26:18 job at a school 00:01:26:18 - 00:01:29:03 with, a pastor's wife 00:01:29:03 - 00:01:30:21 who was subbing at the school. 00:01:30:21 - 00:01:32:06 And I told her, 00:01:32:06 - 00:01:33:16 we were talking about music, 00:01:33:16 - 00:01:34:04 and she found out 00:01:34:04 - 00:01:34:21 that I could play 00:01:34:21 - 00:01:35:17 a little bit of guitar, 00:01:35:17 - 00:01:36:21 and she asked if I could 00:01:36:21 - 00:01:38:06 help with her church worship 00:01:38:06 - 00:01:40:03 and got connected that way. 00:01:40:03 - 00:01:41:06 And through that, 00:01:41:06 - 00:01:41:23 got connected 00:01:41:23 - 00:01:43:22 with a, leader 00:01:43:22 - 00:01:45:10 in that denomination 00:01:45:10 - 00:01:47:10 who eventually got me ordained 00:01:47:10 - 00:01:48:12 and got me connected 00:01:48:12 - 00:01:49:17 with other pastors. 00:01:49:17 - 00:01:50:04 Eventually, 00:01:50:04 - 00:01:51:14 where I became a youth pastor. 00:01:51:14 - 00:01:52:10 And now I'm 00:01:52:10 - 00:01:53:08 serving in a little bit 00:01:53:08 - 00:01:54:02 of a bigger church 00:01:54:02 - 00:01:55:15 in the Taylorville area 00:01:55:15 - 00:01:57:05 as the associate pastor 00:01:57:05 - 00:01:57:15 of student 00:01:57:15 - 00:01:59:11 ministry and worship ministry. 00:01:59:11 - 00:02:00:11 So it started 00:02:00:11 - 00:02:01:08 with worship ministry 00:02:01:08 - 00:02:01:18 and kind of 00:02:01:18 - 00:02:02:23 evolved into youth. 00:02:02:23 - 00:02:03:21 And I never kind of 00:02:03:21 - 00:02:04:18 saw that coming, 00:02:04:18 - 00:02:05:06 but praise 00:02:05:06 - 00:02:06:09 God that he got me to kind of 00:02:06:09 - 00:02:06:23 where I felt 00:02:06:23 - 00:02:08:11 called to years ago, you know? 00:02:08:11 - 00:02:10:01 So that's cool. 00:02:10:01 - 00:02:10:18 Yeah, so 00:02:10:18 - 00:02:11:22 the gateway drug 00:02:11:22 - 00:02:13:11 to your youth ministry 00:02:13:11 - 00:02:14:06 was worship 00:02:14:06 - 00:02:14:15 Yeah 00:02:14:15 - 00:02:16:04 Thatโ€™s where you started 00:02:16:04 - 00:02:16:16 as you can tell 00:02:16:16 - 00:02:17:09 by the man bun. 00:02:17:09 - 00:02:18:13 Right? 00:02:18:13 - 00:02:19:18 Yeah 00:02:19:18 - 00:02:21:24 Or something about that manbun 00:02:21:24 - 00:02:23:14 We wonโ€™t talk about that 00:02:23:14 - 00:02:24:07 But 00:02:26:09 - 00:02:28:07 You started doing youth ministry 00:02:29:10 - 00:02:30:13 When you jumped into 00:02:30:13 - 00:02:31:12 youth ministry 00:02:31:12 - 00:02:32:18 What at that point 00:02:32:18 - 00:02:35:11 was your like understanding 00:02:35:11 - 00:02:36:17 or your relationship 00:02:36:17 - 00:02:38:10 with digital and social media 00:02:38:10 - 00:02:41:06 and all that type of stuff? 00:02:41:06 - 00:02:43:04 I've always kind of 00:02:43:04 - 00:02:45:00 been, like. 00:02:45:00 - 00:02:45:23 I've always been aware 00:02:45:23 - 00:02:46:13 of social media. 00:02:46:13 - 00:02:47:13 Never knew how important 00:02:47:13 - 00:02:48:19 it was to student ministry. 00:02:48:19 - 00:02:49:23 I didn't really, 00:02:49:23 - 00:02:51:24 it was actually post Covid 00:02:51:24 - 00:02:52:22 when I really. 00:02:52:22 - 00:02:53:13 Well, 00:02:53:13 - 00:02:54:08 in the middle of Covid 00:02:54:08 - 00:02:54:20 that I started 00:02:54:20 - 00:02:55:10 getting involved 00:02:55:10 - 00:02:56:05 in student ministry. 00:02:56:05 - 00:02:57:10 And, 00:02:57:10 - 00:02:59:06 I didn't have 00:02:59:06 - 00:03:01:10 too many platforms. 00:03:01:10 - 00:03:02:12 And my first church 00:03:02:12 - 00:03:03:10 was social media, 00:03:03:10 - 00:03:06:02 mostly through Facebook. 00:03:06:02 - 00:03:07:19 I had that's pretty 00:03:07:19 - 00:03:08:21 much it for my first church. 00:03:08:21 - 00:03:10:06 And I mostly connected 00:03:10:06 - 00:03:12:09 with parents on that platform. 00:03:12:09 - 00:03:14:06 and I realized 00:03:14:06 - 00:03:15:03 that probably wasn't 00:03:15:03 - 00:03:16:02 a strength. 00:03:16:02 - 00:03:18:23 so here, though, 00:03:18:23 - 00:03:20:08 I would say that I've, 00:03:20:08 - 00:03:22:08 I've kind of adapted, adopted, 00:03:22:08 - 00:03:25:09 Instagram, Facebook. 00:03:25:09 - 00:03:26:24 I created a TikTok. 00:03:26:24 - 00:03:27:13 And Nick, 00:03:27:13 - 00:03:28:16 I know you're so passionate 00:03:28:16 - 00:03:29:09 about YouTube, 00:03:29:09 - 00:03:30:04 me and Jessica have been 00:03:30:04 - 00:03:30:20 talking recently, 00:03:30:20 - 00:03:31:13 my wife, 00:03:31:13 - 00:03:32:13 about the idea 00:03:32:13 - 00:03:33:19 of getting on YouTube here 00:03:33:19 - 00:03:34:01 soon, 00:03:34:01 - 00:03:34:18 just because I feel like 00:03:34:18 - 00:03:35:24 that'd be a bigger, 00:03:35:24 - 00:03:37:02 overall 00:03:37:02 - 00:03:38:06 reach for our students 00:03:38:06 - 00:03:40:06 to, to have us on YouTube. 00:03:40:06 - 00:03:42:02 But I'm not super connect. 00:03:42:02 - 00:03:42:24 I wasn't super connected 00:03:42:24 - 00:03:44:08 initially to social media. 00:03:44:08 - 00:03:45:18 I would say that. 00:03:45:18 - 00:03:48:12 So what was the 00:03:48:12 - 00:03:49:09 What would you say was 00:03:49:09 - 00:03:49:22 the driving force 00:03:49:22 - 00:03:50:24 or the catalyst 00:03:50:24 - 00:03:52:11 to get you connected 00:03:52:11 - 00:03:53:12 to some of those things? 00:03:53:12 - 00:03:55:08 Like what was your โ€œahaโ€ moment? 00:03:55:08 - 00:03:57:09 If there was one? 00:03:57:09 - 00:03:58:19 well, I think seeing you, 00:03:58:19 - 00:03:59:09 like, super 00:03:59:09 - 00:04:00:02 passionate about it 00:04:00:02 - 00:04:01:08 and watching your podcast 00:04:01:08 - 00:04:02:11 really, honestly like, 00:04:02:11 - 00:04:03:11 and your 00:04:03:11 - 00:04:05:03 different videos and clips 00:04:05:03 - 00:04:05:23 on like TikTok and stuff 00:04:05:23 - 00:04:06:23 on like TikTok and stuff 00:04:06:23 - 00:04:07:20 of how important 00:04:07:20 - 00:04:09:04 social media is 00:04:09:04 - 00:04:10:11 kind of drives me 00:04:10:11 - 00:04:11:17 to make sure I have that. 00:04:11:17 - 00:04:12:21 And like really, 00:04:12:21 - 00:04:13:10 a lot of that 00:04:13:10 - 00:04:14:12 is truly 00:04:14:12 - 00:04:16:18 from like your passion for it. 00:04:16:18 - 00:04:18:05 And I'm seeing other leaders 00:04:18:05 - 00:04:19:04 saying, hey, you know, like, 00:04:19:04 - 00:04:20:02 this is a new era. 00:04:20:02 - 00:04:21:17 It's no longer like 00:04:21:17 - 00:04:22:03 you're not going 00:04:22:03 - 00:04:22:20 to meet in person 00:04:22:20 - 00:04:24:14 as naturally and as, as, 00:04:24:14 - 00:04:25:21 as often as you like. 00:04:25:21 - 00:04:26:15 And there's going to be kids 00:04:26:15 - 00:04:27:14 that don't make it every week. 00:04:27:14 - 00:04:28:07 So it's like 00:04:28:07 - 00:04:28:22 it's good for them 00:04:28:22 - 00:04:29:04 to have 00:04:29:04 - 00:04:30:05 some sort of 00:04:30:05 - 00:04:31:22 avenue of seeing, 00:04:31:22 - 00:04:33:18 some of the stuff 00:04:33:18 - 00:04:34:13 that we're talking about, 00:04:34:13 - 00:04:36:03 even if it's just like a recap 00:04:36:03 - 00:04:36:15 or whatever, 00:04:36:15 - 00:04:37:13 just to kind of give them 00:04:37:13 - 00:04:38:06 a basis of 00:04:38:06 - 00:04:39:21 what we're talking about. So. 00:04:39:21 - 00:04:40:22 Yeah, no doubt 00:04:40:22 - 00:04:42:08 I would agree 00:04:42:08 - 00:04:45:20 But that feels obvious, maybe 00:04:45:20 - 00:04:50:03 So tell people 00:04:50:03 - 00:04:51:14 I think it was helpful 00:04:51:14 - 00:04:52:12 Because youโ€™re a guy 00:04:52:12 - 00:04:54:24 Who is like 00:04:54:24 - 00:04:57:04 What I would deem as 00:04:57:04 - 00:04:59:04 like a lot of other youth pastors in America 00:04:59:04 - 00:05:00:10 Youโ€™re just kinda like 00:05:00:10 - 00:05:02:23 jumping from week to week 00:05:02:23 - 00:05:03:24 program to program 00:05:03:24 - 00:05:05:18 like making sure you got a game 00:05:05:18 - 00:05:06:18 making sure you got a message 00:05:06:18 - 00:05:07:22 making sure you got a small group 00:05:07:22 - 00:05:08:09 making sure you got enough leaders 00:05:08:09 - 00:05:08:24 making sure you got enough leaders 00:05:08:24 - 00:05:09:24 like all the things 00:05:09:24 - 00:05:12:12 all the like whirlwind 00:05:12:12 - 00:05:15:14 elements of just being a youth pastor 00:05:15:14 - 00:05:17:11 and then 00:05:17:11 - 00:05:18:24 you got someone like me 00:05:18:24 - 00:05:20:17 whoโ€™s telling you 00:05:20:17 - 00:05:21:20 โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€ 00:05:21:20 - 00:05:23:08 โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€ 00:05:23:08 - 00:05:25:19 speak to somebody 00:05:25:19 - 00:05:27:22 whoโ€™s in the space that you were 00:05:27:22 - 00:05:29:17 a year, year and a half ago 00:05:29:17 - 00:05:30:23 thatโ€™s like 00:05:30:23 - 00:05:32:20 โ€œYeah that sounds awesomeโ€ 00:05:32:20 - 00:05:33:23 โ€œI would love toโ€ 00:05:33:23 - 00:05:35:24 โ€œThereโ€™s no way I could ever do it!โ€ 00:05:35:24 - 00:05:37:20 โ€œItโ€™s too hardโ€ 00:05:37:20 - 00:05:38:18 โ€œItโ€™s too muchโ€ 00:05:38:18 - 00:05:39:11 Itโ€™s too... 00:05:39:11 - 00:05:40:19 Whatever. Fill in whatever 00:05:40:19 - 00:05:42:16 blank of why itโ€™s 00:05:42:16 - 00:05:43:18 why itโ€™s not 00:05:43:18 - 00:05:46:02 gonna be achievable or possible 00:05:46:02 - 00:05:48:02 talk to somebody whoโ€™s in that 00:05:48:02 - 00:05:49:03 in that sorta space 00:05:49:03 - 00:05:50:15 like you were not too long ago 00:05:50:15 - 00:05:50:21 Yeah. 00:05:50:21 - 00:05:52:16 Well, there is a way to 00:05:52:16 - 00:05:53:11 connect all your 00:05:53:11 - 00:05:54:14 social media platforms 00:05:54:14 - 00:05:56:01 so that when you post on 00:05:56:01 - 00:05:56:23 it, posts on all of them, 00:05:56:23 - 00:05:57:08 I think that's 00:05:57:08 - 00:05:58:08 a big part of it. 00:05:58:08 - 00:05:58:22 And honestly, 00:05:58:22 - 00:05:59:22 I don't even 00:05:59:22 - 00:06:00:23 like for some things. 00:06:00:23 - 00:06:02:01 Like for my pictures, 00:06:02:01 - 00:06:03:13 it goes from Instagram 00:06:03:13 - 00:06:04:00 to Facebook. 00:06:04:00 - 00:06:04:15 They're connected. 00:06:04:15 - 00:06:05:06 But for some reason 00:06:05:06 - 00:06:06:23 whenever I do a reel or video, 00:06:06:23 - 00:06:07:13 they're not. 00:06:07:13 - 00:06:08:06 So I have to go in 00:06:08:06 - 00:06:08:24 and do it myself. 00:06:08:24 - 00:06:09:07 Somehow. 00:06:09:07 - 00:06:09:23 I'll have to 00:06:09:23 - 00:06:10:21 figure all that stuff out. 00:06:10:21 - 00:06:12:02 But, 00:06:12:02 - 00:06:12:22 that's a part of 00:06:12:22 - 00:06:13:06 it is like, 00:06:13:06 - 00:06:14:06 if you haven't connected in 00:06:14:06 - 00:06:15:12 some way to the same email 00:06:15:12 - 00:06:16:16 and to the same connection, 00:06:16:16 - 00:06:17:24 like you can link it 00:06:17:24 - 00:06:19:12 so that when you post on one, 00:06:19:12 - 00:06:20:23 it goes to all of them. 00:06:20:23 - 00:06:21:11 And honestly, 00:06:21:11 - 00:06:22:01 like not 00:06:22:01 - 00:06:23:24 everyone sees each platform 00:06:23:24 - 00:06:24:18 and sometimes they do. 00:06:24:18 - 00:06:25:21 And that's okay. 00:06:25:21 - 00:06:26:10 But I think it's 00:06:26:10 - 00:06:28:06 just so important to know 00:06:28:06 - 00:06:30:08 that kids are on, 00:06:30:08 - 00:06:31:05 students are on 00:06:31:05 - 00:06:32:04 these platforms, 00:06:32:04 - 00:06:32:22 and they're 00:06:32:22 - 00:06:34:11 looking for inspiration, 00:06:34:11 - 00:06:35:20 they're looking for hope, 00:06:35:20 - 00:06:36:13 and it's our way 00:06:36:13 - 00:06:38:08 to kind of minister to people 00:06:38:08 - 00:06:39:05 through the social 00:06:39:05 - 00:06:40:03 media platforms 00:06:40:03 - 00:06:41:05 that God has 00:06:41:05 - 00:06:42:03 really entrusted us 00:06:42:03 - 00:06:43:04 with as youth pastors, 00:06:43:04 - 00:06:44:07 if we're on them, 00:06:44:07 - 00:06:44:24 to do 00:06:44:24 - 00:06:45:22 the right things on their 00:06:45:22 - 00:06:47:16 not just not just, 00:06:47:16 - 00:06:48:14 and it's 00:06:48:14 - 00:06:49:16 good to have fun things 00:06:49:16 - 00:06:50:20 and different activities 00:06:50:20 - 00:06:51:05 and different 00:06:51:05 - 00:06:52:05 like kind of goofy 00:06:52:05 - 00:06:53:19 things for kids to kind of, 00:06:53:19 - 00:06:55:17 you know, be by. 00:06:55:17 - 00:06:57:00 But it's also good to have, 00:06:57:00 - 00:06:57:17 you know, 00:06:57:17 - 00:06:58:19 content 00:06:58:19 - 00:06:59:21 that could inspire 00:06:59:21 - 00:07:01:03 and change lives. 00:07:01:03 - 00:07:02:04 and I, I've seen, 00:07:02:04 - 00:07:03:24 aspects of both, 00:07:03:24 - 00:07:05:00 you know, so it's good. 00:07:05:00 - 00:07:05:16 Yep. 00:07:05:16 - 00:07:07:09 So like thatโ€™s like the big 00:07:07:09 - 00:07:09:15 picture reason. 00:07:09:15 - 00:07:10:15 Students are on it... 00:07:10:15 - 00:07:11:24 We should be on there... 00:07:11:24 - 00:07:14:00 helping redeem those moments 00:07:14:00 - 00:07:15:19 I like to think about 00:07:15:19 - 00:07:17:21 in the Bible 00:07:17:21 - 00:07:19:16 the Apostle Paul was using like 00:07:19:16 - 00:07:20:13 pen and paper 00:07:20:13 - 00:07:22:07 and then like mail carriers 00:07:22:07 - 00:07:23:11 to like get his message across 00:07:23:11 - 00:07:26:09 today I would envision that 00:07:26:09 - 00:07:28:17 He would be using something like digital 00:07:28:17 - 00:07:29:14 Exactly. 00:07:29:14 - 00:07:30:22 Pretty vigorously 00:07:30:22 - 00:07:32:04 to get his message across 00:07:33:05 - 00:07:36:09 So thatโ€™s the big picture, โ€œwhyโ€ 00:07:36:09 - 00:07:36:22 Yeah, Yeah 00:07:36:22 - 00:07:38:08 Students are there, Itโ€™s important 00:07:38:08 - 00:07:40:03 Talk about like 00:07:40:03 - 00:07:42:23 What it took from just like time management 00:07:42:23 - 00:07:44:21 Talk about what it took from like 00:07:44:21 - 00:07:47:24 platform understanding 00:07:47:24 - 00:07:50:07 You, I feel like 00:07:50:07 - 00:07:51:02 correct me if Iโ€™m wrong, but 00:07:51:02 - 00:07:52:07 I feel like you had to 00:07:52:07 - 00:07:54:05 get to know how to use 00:07:54:05 - 00:07:55:11 a lot of these tools 00:07:55:11 - 00:07:57:14 talk to someone who may be 00:07:57:14 - 00:07:58:09 in the space 00:07:58:09 - 00:08:00:03 โ€œI want to- I donโ€™t even know what 00:08:00:03 - 00:08:01:07 to do. Or how to do it.โ€ 00:08:01:07 - 00:08:02:16 Or like whatโ€™s even 00:08:02:16 - 00:08:03:07 possible 00:08:03:07 - 00:08:04:11 Or what ever I should do. 00:08:04:11 - 00:08:06:07 Like get real practical 00:08:06:07 - 00:08:06:18 You know, 00:08:06:18 - 00:08:08:12 I think 00:08:08:12 - 00:08:10:00 it doesn't take as much time 00:08:10:00 - 00:08:10:15 as you think. 00:08:10:15 - 00:08:11:09 I mean, yes, 00:08:11:09 - 00:08:12:05 creating the video. 00:08:12:05 - 00:08:13:05 I mean, you never, 00:08:13:05 - 00:08:14:14 I think, was like 00:08:14:14 - 00:08:15:16 creating a short 00:08:15:16 - 00:08:16:19 or like a reel. 00:08:16:19 - 00:08:18:05 You never want to make a reel 00:08:18:05 - 00:08:19:10 any longer than a minute 00:08:19:10 - 00:08:20:21 or so like that. 00:08:20:21 - 00:08:21:11 So you really 00:08:21:11 - 00:08:22:05 it doesn't take that long 00:08:22:05 - 00:08:22:23 to create that video. 00:08:22:23 - 00:08:23:12 If you could do it in 00:08:23:12 - 00:08:24:13 1 or 2 takes, like it's 00:08:24:13 - 00:08:25:22 not a big deal with that. 00:08:25:22 - 00:08:26:24 And then 00:08:26:24 - 00:08:28:11 that's a big part of, 00:08:28:11 - 00:08:29:10 what students look at. 00:08:29:10 - 00:08:29:24 They don't watch 00:08:29:24 - 00:08:31:00 like long videos. 00:08:31:00 - 00:08:31:16 They're not going to watch 00:08:31:16 - 00:08:32:20 a 20 minute video. 00:08:32:20 - 00:08:33:13 But if you can keep it 00:08:33:13 - 00:08:34:10 a minute, you know, 00:08:34:10 - 00:08:35:10 that's more realistic 00:08:35:10 - 00:08:36:19 for them to kind of, 00:08:36:19 - 00:08:37:19 you know, dive into it 00:08:37:19 - 00:08:39:15 and interact with it. 00:08:39:15 - 00:08:39:23 and I think 00:08:39:23 - 00:08:40:07 a lot of 00:08:40:07 - 00:08:42:00 it is like interaction, 00:08:42:00 - 00:08:43:08 like if you, you know, 00:08:43:08 - 00:08:44:00 what did you learn from 00:08:44:00 - 00:08:44:12 this video? 00:08:44:12 - 00:08:45:14 You know, make comment in the 00:08:45:14 - 00:08:47:03 in the comments, tell us who 00:08:47:03 - 00:08:49:04 who won this in this game or 00:08:49:04 - 00:08:49:22 and I don't think it's 00:08:49:22 - 00:08:51:01 I don't think it's, 00:08:51:01 - 00:08:54:20 it's as much it's not as time 00:08:54:20 - 00:08:55:19 consuming as you think. 00:08:55:19 - 00:08:56:22 It's I mean, 00:08:56:22 - 00:08:58:00 some people are 00:08:58:00 - 00:08:58:21 slower than others 00:08:58:21 - 00:08:59:08 and some people 00:08:59:08 - 00:09:00:04 are faster than others 00:09:00:04 - 00:09:01:00 at getting stuff done. 00:09:01:00 - 00:09:02:03 But once you kind of 00:09:02:03 - 00:09:02:24 get the bearings 00:09:02:24 - 00:09:04:08 and the grip 00:09:04:08 - 00:09:05:04 on, on different 00:09:05:04 - 00:09:06:05 like ways of doing things, 00:09:06:05 - 00:09:06:14 and you're in 00:09:06:14 - 00:09:08:06 kind of your groove on things, 00:09:08:06 - 00:09:09:12 it becomes pretty natural 00:09:09:12 - 00:09:10:09 and second nature 00:09:10:09 - 00:09:12:00 and pretty fast stuff done. 00:09:12:00 - 00:09:13:07 I do a kind of a good amount 00:09:13:07 - 00:09:14:05 of social media stuff, 00:09:14:05 - 00:09:15:10 with even both worship 00:09:15:10 - 00:09:17:01 and youth a little bit. 00:09:17:01 - 00:09:18:06 Not as much with worship, 00:09:18:06 - 00:09:19:10 but some. 00:09:19:10 - 00:09:20:03 And it's like 00:09:20:03 - 00:09:20:21 it's really 00:09:20:21 - 00:09:22:21 it doesn't take that much time 00:09:22:21 - 00:09:25:07 to, to post stuff, I think. 00:09:25:07 - 00:09:26:17 yeah, that's that's 00:09:26:17 - 00:09:28:03 an encouraging thing 00:09:28:03 - 00:09:28:17 to think about. 00:09:28:17 - 00:09:29:12 It's like 00:09:29:12 - 00:09:30:06 it's not going to take 00:09:30:06 - 00:09:30:22 you forever 00:09:30:22 - 00:09:32:01 to get a couple posts 00:09:32:01 - 00:09:33:14 out, a day 00:09:33:14 - 00:09:35:07 or maybe several week. 00:09:35:07 - 00:09:36:01 I think it's good to have 00:09:36:01 - 00:09:37:11 at least one a day or, 00:09:37:11 - 00:09:38:24 you know, multiple a week. 00:09:38:24 - 00:09:39:14 So you can kind of 00:09:39:14 - 00:09:40:16 get keep interacting 00:09:40:16 - 00:09:41:06 with your students. 00:09:41:06 - 00:09:43:02 So I don't know, 00:09:43:02 - 00:09:43:24 is that what kind of answering 00:09:43:24 - 00:09:45:19 your question? Okay. 00:09:45:19 - 00:09:46:08 Yeah, for sure. 00:09:46:08 - 00:09:48:09 I mean thereโ€™s like... 00:09:48:09 - 00:09:50:18 I canโ€™t remember, exactly 00:09:50:18 - 00:09:52:19 Iโ€™m trying to look it up right now 00:09:52:19 - 00:09:54:04 But thereโ€™s a book, the concept 00:09:54:04 - 00:09:55:04 is called like โ€œ1,000 Hoursโ€ 00:09:55:04 - 00:09:57:05 Maybe itโ€™s 100 hours 00:09:57:05 - 00:09:59:06 Iโ€™ll put the link in the 00:09:59:06 - 00:10:00:11 shownotes if youโ€™re interested 00:10:00:11 - 00:10:01:06 Iโ€™ll figure it out 00:10:01:06 - 00:10:03:07 But the concept 00:10:03:07 - 00:10:04:09 is like 00:10:04:09 - 00:10:06:10 No one is gonna be good at anything 00:10:06:10 - 00:10:07:01 until they spend 00:10:07:01 - 00:10:08:01 some time on it. 00:10:08:01 - 00:10:09:22 And so if you feel intimidated 00:10:09:22 - 00:10:10:21 by something 00:10:10:21 - 00:10:11:15 of course youโ€™re gonna 00:10:11:15 - 00:10:12:13 feel intimidated by something 00:10:12:13 - 00:10:13:07 new. Itโ€™s new! 00:10:13:07 - 00:10:15:16 Thatโ€™s what new stuff does 00:10:15:16 - 00:10:16:16 None of us are good 00:10:16:16 - 00:10:18:17 at new stuff right away 00:10:18:17 - 00:10:20:12 And I think itโ€™s really telling 00:10:20:12 - 00:10:23:17 to your point 00:10:23:17 - 00:10:24:15 You were in that boat 00:10:24:15 - 00:10:25:00 And you were like: 00:10:25:00 - 00:10:27:15 โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€ 00:10:27:15 - 00:10:28:21 Just to shed a little bit of light 00:10:28:21 - 00:10:30:02 When I was telling you 00:10:30:02 - 00:10:31:04 you should 00:10:31:04 - 00:10:31:23 dive into some of this stuff 00:10:31:23 - 00:10:32:10 You were like: 00:10:32:10 - 00:10:33:22 โ€œI donโ€™t know man...โ€ 00:10:33:22 - 00:10:35:10 โ€œI donโ€™t really do that type of st-โ€ 00:10:35:10 - 00:10:36:22 โ€œI donโ€™t really do TikTokโ€ 00:10:36:22 - 00:10:38:14 โ€œI donโ€™t really do any videosโ€ 00:10:38:14 - 00:10:40:01 And I was just like: 00:10:40:01 - 00:10:41:18 โ€œHey just try it. Itโ€™s not that hard.โ€ 00:10:41:18 - 00:10:42:11 Yeah. 00:10:42:11 - 00:10:43:05 And so to hear you say now 00:10:43:05 - 00:10:44:15 a year and something later 00:10:44:15 - 00:10:46:04 โ€œItโ€™s not 00:10:46:04 - 00:10:47:05 doesnโ€™t take as much time. 00:10:47:05 - 00:10:48:05 as you might think.โ€ 00:10:48:05 - 00:10:49:09 Yeah. 00:10:49:09 - 00:10:52:14 Thatโ€™s a good word on that 00:10:52:14 - 00:10:53:12 The more time you 00:10:53:12 - 00:10:54:10 spend on something 00:10:54:10 - 00:10:55:19 the better youโ€™re gonna get with it. 00:10:55:19 - 00:10:56:14 Yeah. 00:10:56:14 - 00:10:57:07 And so like 00:10:57:07 - 00:10:58:14 I had one of our 00:10:58:14 - 00:10:59:11 interns yesterday, say 00:10:59:11 - 00:11:00:04 something about 00:11:00:04 - 00:11:01:15 like video editing 00:11:01:15 - 00:11:01:24 She was like 00:11:01:24 - 00:11:04:11 โ€œI wanna help you edit videoโ€ 00:11:04:11 - 00:11:06:23 โ€œI wanna do more video editing.โ€ 00:11:06:23 - 00:11:08:07 cuz she also wants to learn 00:11:08:07 - 00:11:09:15 And I just looked at her 00:11:09:15 - 00:11:10:01 I was like: 00:11:10:01 - 00:11:11:02 โ€œYou just gotta do it.โ€ 00:11:11:02 - 00:11:11:15 Yeah. 00:11:11:15 - 00:11:13:00 Like doing it is the key 00:11:13:00 - 00:11:13:22 Sit down with it 00:11:13:22 - 00:11:14:19 And the more you like 00:11:14:19 - 00:11:16:05 sit down with it, spend time on it. 00:11:16:05 - 00:11:18:08 The more you can get it done 00:11:18:08 - 00:11:18:21 Yeah. 00:11:18:21 - 00:11:20:00 I've learned on my phone 00:11:20:00 - 00:11:20:15 cap cut. 00:11:20:15 - 00:11:21:08 The free version. 00:11:21:08 - 00:11:23:12 Even like it does wonders 00:11:23:12 - 00:11:24:11 for a lot of things. 00:11:24:11 - 00:11:25:15 Like there's 00:11:25:15 - 00:11:26:13 there's a pro version 00:11:26:13 - 00:11:27:06 that probably costs, 00:11:27:06 - 00:11:27:23 but, like, 00:11:27:23 - 00:11:29:05 even the free version 00:11:29:05 - 00:11:31:17 has given me, like, a lot of, 00:11:31:17 - 00:11:32:09 you know, help. 00:11:32:09 - 00:11:33:02 And there's not a lot 00:11:33:02 - 00:11:33:12 there's really 00:11:33:12 - 00:11:34:03 not a lot to it. 00:11:34:03 - 00:11:35:03 There's a lot of little things 00:11:35:03 - 00:11:35:21 you have to kind of figure out 00:11:35:21 - 00:11:36:14 what does what, 00:11:36:14 - 00:11:37:13 but once you do, 00:11:37:13 - 00:11:39:04 it's pretty easy to kind of 00:11:39:04 - 00:11:39:24 get the gist of it 00:11:39:24 - 00:11:40:22 pretty quickly. 00:11:40:22 - 00:11:41:24 So. 00:11:41:24 - 00:11:43:02 And ya know 00:11:43:02 - 00:11:43:18 whatโ€™s even fun 00:11:43:18 - 00:11:44:10 Yesterday, I had a 00:11:44:10 - 00:11:45:06 student 00:11:45:06 - 00:11:46:13 a 6th grader come in 00:11:46:13 - 00:11:48:07 and I taught him how to edit 00:11:48:07 - 00:11:49:19 videos for social media 00:11:49:19 - 00:11:50:12 Awesome, 00:11:50:12 - 00:11:50:24 And he edited two 00:11:50:24 - 00:11:51:11 cool. 00:11:51:11 - 00:11:51:23 In a 3 hour 00:11:51:23 - 00:11:52:13 period of time 00:11:52:13 - 00:11:53:19 Heโ€™d never used 00:11:53:19 - 00:11:54:11 Adobe Premiere Pro 00:11:54:11 - 00:11:55:08 It turned out pretty good? 00:11:55:08 - 00:11:56:03 The videos? 00:11:56:03 - 00:11:58:08 Yeah. Iโ€™ll post the link down below 00:11:58:08 - 00:12:00:00 You can see the studentโ€™s 00:12:00:00 - 00:12:00:11 edit 00:12:00:11 - 00:12:01:08 Awesome 00:12:01:08 - 00:12:02:06 Man, it was crispy 00:12:02:06 - 00:12:03:15 It was a crispy edit 00:12:03:15 - 00:12:04:01 Cool. 00:12:04:01 - 00:12:05:10 Shout out to him 00:12:05:10 - 00:12:07:03 Alright, so letโ€™s... 00:12:07:03 - 00:12:09:05 Shift gears a little bit, Nate 00:12:09:05 - 00:12:10:15 And, umm 00:12:10:15 - 00:12:12:01 Talk about 00:12:12:01 - 00:12:13:01 what 00:12:13:01 - 00:12:14:12 Advantages 00:12:14:12 - 00:12:15:18 or what wins 00:12:15:18 - 00:12:16:10 you have seen 00:12:16:10 - 00:12:17:19 out of social media 00:12:17:19 - 00:12:19:07 in your group? 00:12:19:07 - 00:12:20:13 Right, what has 00:12:20:13 - 00:12:22:03 having a camera around 00:12:22:03 - 00:12:24:02 What has doing different like 00:12:24:02 - 00:12:25:06 Challenges 00:12:25:06 - 00:12:27:03 Your little like 00:12:27:03 - 00:12:28:01 devotional thoughts 00:12:28:01 - 00:12:30:09 Take it any direction you want 00:12:30:09 - 00:12:31:10 But what has 00:12:31:10 - 00:12:32:08 having these 00:12:32:08 - 00:12:33:15 having just a presence 00:12:33:15 - 00:12:34:24 on social media 00:12:34:24 - 00:12:36:11 what has it done in your mind 00:12:36:11 - 00:12:38:13 to your youth group? 00:12:38:13 - 00:12:39:04 you know, I'm 00:12:39:04 - 00:12:40:09 going to say something 00:12:40:09 - 00:12:41:20 that may be a little bit off 00:12:41:20 - 00:12:42:23 the track of this little bit, 00:12:42:23 - 00:12:44:04 but it's related to this. 00:12:44:04 - 00:12:45:03 I think I've noticed 00:12:45:03 - 00:12:46:02 a lot more people 00:12:46:02 - 00:12:47:09 outside of my ministry 00:12:47:09 - 00:12:48:04 are being reached 00:12:48:04 - 00:12:49:13 than just my students. 00:12:49:13 - 00:12:50:00 There's people 00:12:50:00 - 00:12:51:13 that see my videos 00:12:51:13 - 00:12:52:13 that that are like, 00:12:52:13 - 00:12:53:13 not from our ministry, 00:12:53:13 - 00:12:54:11 that are like, inspired 00:12:54:11 - 00:12:55:16 and like asking questions 00:12:55:16 - 00:12:57:05 and like, where is CSM at? 00:12:57:05 - 00:12:58:01 And all this stuff. 00:12:58:01 - 00:12:58:07 And they 00:12:58:07 - 00:12:58:14 may not 00:12:58:14 - 00:12:59:21 even be from around the area, 00:12:59:21 - 00:13:01:06 but they're like curious 00:13:01:06 - 00:13:02:16 and finding things. 00:13:02:16 - 00:13:03:03 And we're starting 00:13:03:03 - 00:13:04:02 to get more students now 00:13:04:02 - 00:13:05:06 and like seeing my videos 00:13:05:06 - 00:13:05:16 and being in 00:13:05:16 - 00:13:06:07 and following things. 00:13:06:07 - 00:13:06:19 And actually, 00:13:06:19 - 00:13:07:10 we copied off 00:13:07:10 - 00:13:08:01 your guy's church 00:13:08:01 - 00:13:08:24 one time you did this thing 00:13:08:24 - 00:13:09:10 where you went up 00:13:09:10 - 00:13:10:19 to students and go, 00:13:10:19 - 00:13:12:08 hey, you know, 00:13:12:08 - 00:13:13:22 do you follow Cross Creek, 00:13:13:22 - 00:13:14:13 your church? 00:13:14:13 - 00:13:15:00 And I go, hey, 00:13:15:00 - 00:13:15:14 do you follow 00:13:15:14 - 00:13:17:00 CSM on on TikTok 00:13:17:00 - 00:13:17:24 or do you follow CSM 00:13:17:24 - 00:13:19:21 on, you know, Instagram? 00:13:19:21 - 00:13:21:09 And they're always scrambling 00:13:21:09 - 00:13:22:20 and they show their phone 00:13:22:20 - 00:13:23:14 and they either know 00:13:23:14 - 00:13:24:01 who they do 00:13:24:01 - 00:13:25:01 or because of that, 00:13:25:01 - 00:13:25:24 they start following. 00:13:25:24 - 00:13:27:01 You know, 00:13:27:01 - 00:13:28:19 I think it's just 00:13:28:19 - 00:13:31:03 so important to be present 00:13:31:03 - 00:13:32:01 there. 00:13:32:01 - 00:13:35:03 and, give them an avenue 00:13:35:03 - 00:13:36:10 where they can 00:13:36:10 - 00:13:37:19 if they missed a week 00:13:37:19 - 00:13:38:24 and I, I don't always do it, 00:13:38:24 - 00:13:40:10 but I try to do a recap video 00:13:40:10 - 00:13:41:14 from the week before 00:13:41:14 - 00:13:42:00 and talk 00:13:42:00 - 00:13:43:24 more about different messages. 00:13:43:24 - 00:13:47:12 And, I think they need that 00:13:47:12 - 00:13:48:00 to kind of 00:13:48:00 - 00:13:48:21 if they're not there, like, 00:13:48:21 - 00:13:49:08 hey, they can 00:13:49:08 - 00:13:50:17 they can see what's going on. 00:13:50:17 - 00:13:52:04 So that's, that's really good. 00:13:52:04 - 00:13:53:09 Yeah. 00:13:53:09 - 00:13:54:15 Well and itโ€™s even like 00:13:54:15 - 00:13:55:16 Ya know 00:13:55:16 - 00:13:56:17 you even said it 00:13:56:17 - 00:13:57:18 there, like 00:13:57:18 - 00:13:59:24 just by doing like something 00:13:59:24 - 00:14:01:05 some little like 00:14:01:05 - 00:14:02:12 challenge thing 00:14:02:12 - 00:14:03:12 like it created like 00:14:03:12 - 00:14:04:01 a fun 00:14:04:01 - 00:14:04:18 Yeah. 00:14:04:18 - 00:14:05:12 moment. 00:14:05:12 - 00:14:06:02 Yeah. 00:14:06:02 - 00:14:06:17 And then if 00:14:06:17 - 00:14:07:22 you do go around 00:14:07:22 - 00:14:08:13 and youโ€™re kinda like 00:14:08:13 - 00:14:10:17 doing man on the street-style videos 00:14:10:17 - 00:14:11:07 and youโ€™re 00:14:11:07 - 00:14:12:18 interviewing people and tryina 00:14:12:18 - 00:14:14:08 catch em not following you, 00:14:14:08 - 00:14:15:07 or prove to 00:14:15:07 - 00:14:17:02 people that they are following you. 00:14:17:02 - 00:14:18:24 Then later, theyโ€™re gonna look 00:14:18:24 - 00:14:20:02 for that online. 00:14:20:02 - 00:14:22:03 Right? And then thatโ€™s gonna create 00:14:22:03 - 00:14:23:09 and organic moment 00:14:23:09 - 00:14:25:10 an organic shareable moment 00:14:25:10 - 00:14:26:09 that they might 00:14:26:09 - 00:14:27:18 show their friends 00:14:27:18 - 00:14:28:19 โ€œHey, check this video out!โ€ 00:14:28:19 - 00:14:30:04 or something like that, right? 00:14:30:04 - 00:14:31:09 like something that they could even 00:14:31:09 - 00:14:33:02 then be proud of 00:14:33:02 - 00:14:34:05 Ya know, and so thereโ€™s 00:14:34:05 - 00:14:36:15 I think, opportunity 00:14:36:15 - 00:14:37:16 Not 00:14:37:16 - 00:14:39:21 just with people who donโ€™t go to your church 00:14:39:21 - 00:14:40:18 But also, 00:14:40:18 - 00:14:42:12 with students that are 00:14:42:12 - 00:14:43:03 Yeah. 00:14:43:03 - 00:14:43:17 in your youth ministry. 00:14:43:17 - 00:14:45:12 that can, ya know 00:14:45:12 - 00:14:46:14 help them feel 00:14:46:14 - 00:14:48:07 like some sort of sense of ownership 00:14:48:07 - 00:14:49:22 and some sort of like, win 00:14:49:22 - 00:14:52:06 in and through your social media 00:14:52:06 - 00:14:53:15 itโ€™s in the 00:14:53:15 - 00:14:54:21 itโ€™s a really low 00:14:54:21 - 00:14:55:19 hanging fruit there, ya know? 00:14:55:19 - 00:14:56:05 Yeah. 00:14:56:05 - 00:14:56:11 And I 00:14:56:11 - 00:14:57:20 feel like a lot of people. 00:14:57:20 - 00:14:58:14 A lot of students, 00:14:58:14 - 00:14:59:18 specifically students 00:14:59:18 - 00:15:02:00 want to see other students. 00:15:02:00 - 00:15:02:09 Sorry. 00:15:02:09 - 00:15:03:13 On videos 00:15:03:13 - 00:15:04:13 and, like, in things 00:15:04:13 - 00:15:05:12 instead of just me. 00:15:05:12 - 00:15:06:10 Just Jessica. 00:15:06:10 - 00:15:07:06 That's the leader. 00:15:07:06 - 00:15:08:07 They want to see students. 00:15:08:07 - 00:15:09:02 And when they see students, 00:15:09:02 - 00:15:10:02 they're more attentive 00:15:10:02 - 00:15:10:17 to watch 00:15:10:17 - 00:15:11:07 and kind of 00:15:11:07 - 00:15:12:10 participate with it 00:15:12:10 - 00:15:13:16 when when they're there 00:15:13:16 - 00:15:14:02 instead of 00:15:14:02 - 00:15:14:21 just adults 00:15:14:21 - 00:15:16:01 kind of sharing recaps 00:15:16:01 - 00:15:16:12 or whatever 00:15:16:12 - 00:15:18:02 that may look like, you know? 00:15:18:02 - 00:15:18:17 So I've learned that 00:15:18:17 - 00:15:19:16 kind of the hard way 00:15:19:16 - 00:15:21:09 a little bit, you know, so. 00:15:21:09 - 00:15:21:24 Yeah, for sure. 00:15:21:24 - 00:15:24:02 And weโ€™re all just trying stuff, right? 00:15:24:02 - 00:15:26:04 Like what I did, when I moved here 00:15:26:04 - 00:15:29:20 I guess just about two years ago, now 00:15:29:20 - 00:15:31:23 when I moved here like 00:15:31:23 - 00:15:33:15 my strategy that I brought in is 00:15:33:15 - 00:15:35:18 not the same strategy that I have today 00:15:35:18 - 00:15:38:04 So, as you get going 00:15:38:04 - 00:15:40:02 and I think thatโ€™s a good encouragement too 00:15:40:02 - 00:15:41:07 back to the question a minute ago 00:15:41:07 - 00:15:42:14 like just get started 00:15:42:14 - 00:15:43:03 Yeah. 00:15:43:03 - 00:15:44:02 and once you get started 00:15:44:02 - 00:15:45:08 youโ€™ll start to like uncover things 00:15:45:08 - 00:15:46:08 that you didnโ€™t know 00:15:46:08 - 00:15:46:23 Right? Like 00:15:46:23 - 00:15:47:23 a great example 00:15:47:23 - 00:15:50:14 in our context is 00:15:50:14 - 00:15:52:00 we had a resident, Caleb 00:15:52:00 - 00:15:52:18 two videos ago 00:15:52:18 - 00:15:53:05 Iโ€™ll link it right here 00:15:53:05 - 00:15:54:02 Caleb 00:15:54:02 - 00:15:55:10 But he 00:15:55:10 - 00:15:56:18 had this idea 00:15:56:18 - 00:15:59:02 about this thing called the Social Challenge 00:15:59:02 - 00:16:00:10 and we would do a film 00:16:00:10 - 00:16:02:08 a filming of it every single Wednesday night 00:16:02:08 - 00:16:04:01 and he wanted that to be like 00:16:04:01 - 00:16:05:21 a long form version of a YouTube video 00:16:05:21 - 00:16:06:21 and so 00:16:06:21 - 00:16:08:17 we did that for a semester 00:16:08:17 - 00:16:10:15 and I mean, that, that 00:16:10:15 - 00:16:12:01 project would eat his lunch 00:16:12:01 - 00:16:13:11 cuz he would do it on a Wednesday night 00:16:13:11 - 00:16:15:00 and then he would work all day 00:16:15:00 - 00:16:16:14 on a Thursday on it 00:16:16:14 - 00:16:17:22 and he didnโ€™t work on Fridays 00:16:17:22 - 00:16:19:15 so like his whole Thursday 00:16:19:15 - 00:16:22:08 was eaten up by getting this social challenge edited 00:16:22:08 - 00:16:23:05 posted 00:16:23:05 - 00:16:25:03 up and live on YouTube 00:16:25:03 - 00:16:27:03 and. But we, so we 00:16:27:03 - 00:16:29:03 killed the long-form version of it 00:16:29:03 - 00:16:30:10 because it was like the 00:16:30:10 - 00:16:32:19 time factor. Like the immediacy of it 00:16:32:19 - 00:16:35:07 But we shifted it to more short style 00:16:35:07 - 00:16:36:07 more challenge style 00:16:36:07 - 00:16:38:03 and what thatโ€™s done 00:16:38:03 - 00:16:39:12 is that has like 00:16:39:12 - 00:16:41:11 you said, that has put so many more 00:16:41:11 - 00:16:42:18 students on our 00:16:42:18 - 00:16:43:12 platform 00:16:43:12 - 00:16:45:08 so weโ€™ve taken the same block of time 00:16:45:08 - 00:16:46:19 that we would have taken to shoot 00:16:46:19 - 00:16:47:24 one big long video 00:16:47:24 - 00:16:49:21 and weโ€™ll just shoot like 5 00:16:49:21 - 00:16:50:06 Okay. 00:16:50:06 - 00:16:50:24 Five shorts. 00:16:50:24 - 00:16:52:15 And then we can just bank them 00:16:52:15 - 00:16:54:00 And so we got em 00:16:54:00 - 00:16:54:20 Like I got in my 00:16:54:20 - 00:16:56:19 folder right now, I got like 00:16:56:19 - 00:16:57:19 5 or 6 00:16:57:19 - 00:16:59:06 of like a certain style of game 00:16:59:06 - 00:17:00:06 we call them drafts 00:17:00:06 - 00:17:01:04 and then I got 5 or 6 00:17:01:04 - 00:17:02:10 of another certain style of game 00:17:02:10 - 00:17:03:15 we call it 7 Questions 00:17:03:15 - 00:17:04:10 Yeah. 00:17:04:10 - 00:17:05:09 And so like I have 00:17:05:09 - 00:17:07:17 Some pretty like set 00:17:07:17 - 00:17:09:06 what I post every day 00:17:09:06 - 00:17:11:00 and when I post certain things 00:17:11:00 - 00:17:11:23 but like 00:17:11:23 - 00:17:13:06 when I donโ€™t have something 00:17:13:06 - 00:17:14:19 or when I need something to kinda 00:17:14:19 - 00:17:15:08 fill the gaps 00:17:15:08 - 00:17:16:03 like I got those 00:17:16:03 - 00:17:16:08 Yeah. 00:17:16:08 - 00:17:16:11 Yeah. 00:17:16:11 - 00:17:17:01 Theyโ€™re just sitting 00:17:17:01 - 00:17:17:22 right there. And so 00:17:17:22 - 00:17:20:06 we stumbled into that 00:17:20:06 - 00:17:21:18 Right? Like what we started with 00:17:21:18 - 00:17:23:03 the idea of the social challenge 00:17:23:03 - 00:17:23:24 what we started with 00:17:23:24 - 00:17:25:12 is not what it is now 00:17:25:12 - 00:17:26:01 Yeah. 00:17:26:01 - 00:17:27:09 And whatโ€™s cool, is like 00:17:27:09 - 00:17:29:08 it, in the room 00:17:29:08 - 00:17:30:13 like in our programming 00:17:30:13 - 00:17:32:02 itโ€™s still called the same thing 00:17:32:02 - 00:17:33:02 from when it started 00:17:33:02 - 00:17:34:15 to what it is today 00:17:34:15 - 00:17:36:14 we still call it the โ€œSocial Challengeโ€ 00:17:36:14 - 00:17:37:20 so students know what it is 00:17:37:20 - 00:17:39:16 and students know thereโ€™s an opportunity 00:17:39:16 - 00:17:40:16 for them to compete 00:17:40:16 - 00:17:41:23 and get on camera 00:17:41:23 - 00:17:43:05 and they love that stuff 00:17:43:05 - 00:17:43:20 That's awesome. 00:17:43:20 - 00:17:45:12 And itโ€™s opt-in-able 00:17:45:12 - 00:17:46:11 though, ya know? 00:17:46:11 - 00:17:47:19 and thatโ€™s the nice part 00:17:47:19 - 00:17:49:00 is like we say, โ€œHeyโ€ 00:17:49:00 - 00:17:50:18 โ€œDuring free time, if anyone wants 00:17:50:18 - 00:17:52:01 to come do the Social Challenge 00:17:52:01 - 00:17:53:09 weโ€™ll be back here in this room.โ€ 00:17:53:09 - 00:17:56:10 And so itโ€™s not forced 00:17:56:10 - 00:17:56:19 Yeah. 00:17:56:19 - 00:17:57:06 Weโ€™re not making anyone 00:17:57:06 - 00:17:58:12 who is shy or whatever 00:17:58:12 - 00:17:59:06 have to get on it 00:17:59:06 - 00:17:59:24 But then you know 00:17:59:24 - 00:18:01:19 thereโ€™s definitely kids who DO want to be on it 00:18:01:19 - 00:18:02:12 Yeah. 00:18:02:12 - 00:18:03:19 And theyโ€™re like banging down the door 00:18:03:19 - 00:18:04:07 to get in there 00:18:04:07 - 00:18:05:00 Do you have, like, 00:18:05:00 - 00:18:06:07 the same, like, 00:18:06:07 - 00:18:07:15 smaller, kind of smaller 00:18:07:15 - 00:18:08:03 group of students 00:18:08:03 - 00:18:08:12 that always 00:18:08:12 - 00:18:09:05 want to be on videos? 00:18:09:05 - 00:18:09:23 Or do you have a pretty good 00:18:09:23 - 00:18:10:17 variety of students? 00:18:10:17 - 00:18:11:13 I want to be on videos 00:18:11:13 - 00:18:12:12 because I feel like it's 00:18:12:12 - 00:18:13:07 kind of slim for me. 00:18:13:07 - 00:18:14:02 of kids that actually 00:18:14:02 - 00:18:16:12 want to be on video. 00:18:16:12 - 00:18:17:19 Yeah, I mean itโ€™s 00:18:17:19 - 00:18:19:05 Yeah, I think itโ€™s 00:18:19:05 - 00:18:20:12 the same kinda group 00:18:20:12 - 00:18:21:02 Yeah. 00:18:21:02 - 00:18:22:13 the same like middle school 00:18:22:13 - 00:18:23:02 boys 00:18:23:02 - 00:18:23:23 Yeah. 00:18:23:23 - 00:18:24:18 like the kid who edited 00:18:24:18 - 00:18:26:02 is the kid whoโ€™s always on โ€˜em, too. 00:18:26:03 - 00:18:26:18 Yeah yeah 00:18:26:18 - 00:18:27:08 yeah yeah. 00:18:27:08 - 00:18:28:07 Like heโ€™s a 00:18:28:07 - 00:18:31:07 heโ€™s very camera hungry 00:18:31:07 - 00:18:32:14 Yeah yeah. 00:18:32:14 - 00:18:33:12 And thatโ€™s ok 00:18:33:12 - 00:18:35:01 everyoneโ€™s gonna go through waves 00:18:35:01 - 00:18:35:22 this kid doesnโ€™t 00:18:35:22 - 00:18:38:20 heโ€™s a 6th grade-7th grade boy 00:18:38:20 - 00:18:41:03 heโ€™s not insecure about anything 00:18:41:03 - 00:18:41:21 That's awesome 00:18:41:21 - 00:18:42:24 But like one day he will be 00:18:42:24 - 00:18:46:01 He probably wonโ€™t be that kid 00:18:46:01 - 00:18:48:10 for his entire youth ministry career 00:18:48:10 - 00:18:49:04 Right? 00:18:49:04 - 00:18:51:07 And so like, you just 00:18:51:07 - 00:18:53:13 thatโ€™s the nice part is you can offer that 00:18:53:13 - 00:18:55:00 and if you got kids 00:18:55:00 - 00:18:56:20 The other fun thing weโ€™ve started to do 00:18:56:20 - 00:18:58:21 Beyond just 00:18:58:21 - 00:19:00:06 being on camera 00:19:00:06 - 00:19:01:17 is like helping run the camera 00:19:01:17 - 00:19:04:06 And so like maybe they donโ€™t wanna be on the camera 00:19:04:06 - 00:19:06:04 but maybe they can be like behind the scenes 00:19:06:04 - 00:19:06:23 or edit 00:19:06:23 - 00:19:07:14 Yeah. 00:19:07:14 - 00:19:08:23 And that- students love 00:19:08:23 - 00:19:10:14 getting a chance to do that 00:19:10:14 - 00:19:12:10 And the more, I guess the older Iโ€™m getting 00:19:12:10 - 00:19:13:23 the more Iโ€™m trying to figure out, like โ€œHow can I 00:19:13:23 - 00:19:16:08 not just do student ministry 00:19:16:08 - 00:19:16:24 for students, 00:19:16:24 - 00:19:17:13 but how can I 00:19:17:13 - 00:19:19:03 let students do student ministry for students?โ€ 00:19:19:03 - 00:19:19:23 That's good. 00:19:19:23 - 00:19:23:14 So thatโ€™s one of the things weโ€™re trying to pursue 00:19:23:14 - 00:19:25:10 But Nate, tell me what 00:19:25:10 - 00:19:27:12 in your context has 00:19:27:12 - 00:19:30:13 been the most fun, or most effective thing? 00:19:30:13 - 00:19:31:08 that youโ€™ve done 00:19:31:08 - 00:19:32:19 just with regard to digital 00:19:32:19 - 00:19:33:11 it doesnโ€™t have to be 00:19:33:11 - 00:19:35:18 social media- anything, it can be anything 00:19:35:18 - 00:19:38:09 any sort of thing in the digital space 00:19:38:09 - 00:19:40:04 Well, I'll be honest. 00:19:40:04 - 00:19:41:16 I've really recently 00:19:41:16 - 00:19:43:10 kind of started a. And this. 00:19:43:10 - 00:19:43:22 I don't even know 00:19:43:22 - 00:19:44:18 if you consider this 00:19:44:18 - 00:19:45:11 what you're looking at, 00:19:45:11 - 00:19:47:17 but I started a Snapchat, 00:19:47:17 - 00:19:50:03 group with our students, 00:19:50:03 - 00:19:51:12 and I go, hey, invite. 00:19:51:12 - 00:19:53:00 And that's a it's 00:19:53:00 - 00:19:53:24 me social media 00:19:53:24 - 00:19:54:20 invite 00:19:54:20 - 00:19:56:00 anyone that is 00:19:56:00 - 00:19:57:19 that is not that 00:19:57:19 - 00:19:59:01 I don't have access to 00:19:59:01 - 00:20:00:16 into this group chat. 00:20:00:16 - 00:20:01:19 And people are just adding 00:20:01:19 - 00:20:02:15 people as we go. 00:20:02:15 - 00:20:03:12 And as soon as I add 00:20:03:12 - 00:20:03:24 someone else 00:20:03:24 - 00:20:04:16 and they have friends 00:20:04:16 - 00:20:06:06 that are from CSM, I'm them. 00:20:06:06 - 00:20:06:22 And it's like 00:20:06:22 - 00:20:08:00 the group is grown, 00:20:08:00 - 00:20:08:17 but the more people 00:20:08:17 - 00:20:09:02 that are in there, 00:20:09:02 - 00:20:10:04 the more it gets blown up. 00:20:10:04 - 00:20:10:22 It's been fun to 00:20:10:22 - 00:20:11:13 just kind of see it 00:20:11:13 - 00:20:12:18 expand slowly 00:20:12:18 - 00:20:13:08 throughout 00:20:13:08 - 00:20:14:15 the last couple weeks. 00:20:14:15 - 00:20:14:21 That's 00:20:14:21 - 00:20:15:04 something that 00:20:15:04 - 00:20:16:01 I'm excited about 00:20:16:01 - 00:20:17:06 because it's like it's 00:20:17:06 - 00:20:18:08 a different way of connecting. 00:20:18:08 - 00:20:19:04 We have GroupMe 00:20:19:04 - 00:20:19:19 and we connect through 00:20:19:19 - 00:20:20:24 GroupMe mainly, 00:20:20:24 - 00:20:22:00 but I think Snapchat 00:20:22:00 - 00:20:22:23 should have a funner, 00:20:22:23 - 00:20:25:07 like fun, fun way to like 00:20:25:07 - 00:20:26:12 send funny pictures 00:20:26:12 - 00:20:27:15 and whatever. 00:20:27:15 - 00:20:28:16 Like you can best group 00:20:28:16 - 00:20:29:10 like this 00:20:29:10 - 00:20:30:23 kid was blown it up 00:20:30:23 - 00:20:32:11 with with like 00:20:32:11 - 00:20:33:24 filters of people's faces 00:20:33:24 - 00:20:35:09 being all distorted and stuff. 00:20:35:09 - 00:20:36:23 And just as he's being goofy 00:20:36:23 - 00:20:37:19 and I don't know 00:20:37:19 - 00:20:38:13 if that answers your question 00:20:38:13 - 00:20:39:08 the way you wanted me to, 00:20:39:08 - 00:20:40:14 but it's just, you know. 00:20:40:14 - 00:20:41:03 Yeah, no, itโ€™s great! 00:20:41:03 - 00:20:42:02 I mean itโ€™s 00:20:42:02 - 00:20:43:01 thatโ€™s the thing, like 00:20:43:01 - 00:20:44:09 every church is different, right? 00:20:44:09 - 00:20:45:17 So Iโ€™m not going into this with any sorta 00:20:45:17 - 00:20:46:19 like agenda 00:20:46:19 - 00:20:47:09 Iโ€™m just tryina get 00:20:47:09 - 00:20:50:04 to know what real youth pastors 00:20:50:04 - 00:20:51:14 and real churches are doing 00:20:51:14 - 00:20:53:12 like to connect with students 00:20:53:12 - 00:20:55:00 and thatโ€™s a great example, because 00:20:55:00 - 00:20:57:10 youth ministry 15 years ago 00:20:57:10 - 00:20:58:06 like you donโ€™t have that 00:20:58:06 - 00:20:58:16 opportunity 00:20:58:16 - 00:20:59:10 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:20:59:10 - 00:21:01:02 Whether 00:21:01:02 - 00:21:02:09 Cuz like our church 00:21:02:09 - 00:21:03:18 doesnโ€™t let us use Snapchat 00:21:03:18 - 00:21:04:10 Oh, really? 00:21:04:10 - 00:21:06:01 Whether itโ€™s Snapchat 00:21:06:01 - 00:21:07:10 or whether itโ€™s GroupMe 00:21:07:10 - 00:21:08:16 or whether itโ€™s a Group Message 00:21:08:16 - 00:21:11:09 or whether itโ€™s an Instagram DM Group 00:21:12:15 - 00:21:13:18 The concept 00:21:13:18 - 00:21:14:22 is a group message 00:21:14:22 - 00:21:15:14 Yeah. 00:21:15:14 - 00:21:17:15 You and I, if we were youth pastors 00:21:17:15 - 00:21:18:14 fifteen years ago 00:21:18:14 - 00:21:20:12 we donโ€™t have that opportunity 00:21:20:12 - 00:21:21:01 Yeah. 00:21:21:01 - 00:21:22:11 That doesnโ€™t exist 00:21:22:11 - 00:21:24:19 And so, thatโ€™s why I say 00:21:24:19 - 00:21:26:19 itโ€™s so important for youth pastors to just 00:21:26:19 - 00:21:27:22 figure something out, because 00:21:27:22 - 00:21:29:19 look at that opportunity 00:21:29:19 - 00:21:31:06 like you have a chance to 00:21:31:06 - 00:21:32:23 message your students 00:21:32:23 - 00:21:34:22 on like a Tuesday morning 00:21:34:22 - 00:21:35:12 Yeah. 00:21:35:12 - 00:21:36:06 like otherwise you would have 00:21:36:06 - 00:21:37:03 had to wait for them to 00:21:37:03 - 00:21:37:17 Yeah. 00:21:37:17 - 00:21:38:17 come to you 00:21:38:17 - 00:21:40:01 to be a captive audience 00:21:40:01 - 00:21:40:12 Yeah. 00:21:40:12 - 00:21:42:03 But now we have the ability to 00:21:42:03 - 00:21:43:14 And thereโ€™s like 00:21:43:14 - 00:21:45:09 thereโ€™s checks and balances within that 00:21:45:09 - 00:21:47:01 and thereโ€™s times where that can get abused 00:21:47:01 - 00:21:48:11 but at the end of the day, like 00:21:48:11 - 00:21:50:00 The opportunity that we have is fantastic 00:21:50:00 - 00:21:50:09 Yeah. 00:21:50:09 - 00:21:51:20 So, itโ€™s 00:21:51:20 - 00:21:53:19 Important I think to lean into that 00:21:53:19 - 00:21:54:21 We should ask our dad 00:21:54:21 - 00:21:55:13 how he did that 00:21:55:13 - 00:21:56:18 when he was a youth pastor. 00:21:56:18 - 00:21:58:05 You know, just to see for him. 00:21:58:05 - 00:21:59:02 Fifteen years ago? 00:21:59:02 - 00:21:59:08 What? 00:21:59:08 - 00:22:00:05 Because he was doing it. What? 00:22:00:05 - 00:22:01:05 It was like not many. 00:22:01:05 - 00:22:02:05 There wasn't cell phones, 00:22:02:05 - 00:22:02:12 you know. 00:22:02:12 - 00:22:03:08 So how do you. 00:22:03:08 - 00:22:04:16 Well yeah, you just didnโ€™t 00:22:04:16 - 00:22:05:16 do a group chat 00:22:05:16 - 00:22:06:03 Yeah. 00:22:06:03 - 00:22:08:00 It was all about the in-person 00:22:08:00 - 00:22:08:12 It was. 00:22:08:12 - 00:22:09:01 Yeah. 00:22:09:01 - 00:22:11:08 And thatโ€™s the struggle 00:22:11:08 - 00:22:13:14 Right? Like the struggle now 00:22:13:14 - 00:22:14:22 sometimes when 00:22:14:22 - 00:22:16:07 you introduce an idea of digital 00:22:16:07 - 00:22:18:13 there may be an older 00:22:18:13 - 00:22:21:03 generation or demographic 00:22:21:03 - 00:22:24:00 that remembers it done a different way 00:22:24:00 - 00:22:26:19 And no shade on that or them 00:22:26:19 - 00:22:28:06 but the fact is we just 00:22:28:06 - 00:22:29:14 live in a different day 00:22:29:14 - 00:22:30:21 And so 00:22:30:21 - 00:22:33:02 and whatever 00:22:33:02 - 00:22:36:12 And so however they were doing things before 00:22:36:12 - 00:22:39:03 teenagers have zero concept of that today 00:22:39:03 - 00:22:39:08 Yeah. 00:22:39:08 - 00:22:39:21 Yeah, yeah. 00:22:39:21 - 00:22:41:09 They are digital natives 00:22:41:09 - 00:22:42:15 and digital dependents 00:22:42:15 - 00:22:44:07 And so to 00:22:44:07 - 00:22:45:12 not have something 00:22:45:12 - 00:22:48:04 Right? And thatโ€™s the thing when I hear arguments 00:22:48:04 - 00:22:49:11 from youth pastors who say: 00:22:49:11 - 00:22:50:20 โ€œWell, I donโ€™t use socialโ€ 00:22:50:20 - 00:22:52:08 โ€œWell do you have a group chat?โ€ 00:22:52:08 - 00:22:53:08 โ€œWell yeah we have a group chat!โ€ 00:22:53:08 - 00:22:54:22 โ€œWell, youโ€™re doing something!โ€ 00:22:54:22 - 00:22:56:10 Youโ€™re not doing nothing 00:22:56:10 - 00:22:57:24 And so thereโ€™s 00:22:57:24 - 00:23:00:08 Thatโ€™s the thing I love, I love that 00:23:00:08 - 00:23:02:17 the sky is legitimately the limit 00:23:02:17 - 00:23:05:06 Wherever your creativity will lead you 00:23:05:06 - 00:23:06:06 in todayโ€™s day-in-age 00:23:06:06 - 00:23:07:19 you can do 00:23:07:19 - 00:23:08:17 you can do anything 00:23:08:17 - 00:23:10:12 Right? And it can be 00:23:10:12 - 00:23:12:19 as robust of a strategy as you want 00:23:12:19 - 00:23:13:24 or it can be as like 00:23:13:24 - 00:23:16:14 paired down and focused on your kids 00:23:16:14 - 00:23:18:21 Both are great, I think 00:23:18:21 - 00:23:19:17 Yeah. 00:23:19:17 - 00:23:21:14 So last thing, Nate 00:23:21:14 - 00:23:23:03 How do you 00:23:23:03 - 00:23:24:15 know somethingโ€™s working? 00:23:24:15 - 00:23:27:08 Like when you post something 00:23:27:08 - 00:23:29:07 Or- how do you know when like 00:23:29:07 - 00:23:31:11 that was good. That was a win? 00:23:31:11 - 00:23:33:13 What are some of the things that 00:23:33:13 - 00:23:34:24 you look for, whether it be 00:23:34:24 - 00:23:37:03 like metrics, like number type things 00:23:37:03 - 00:23:38:05 Or even just like 00:23:38:05 - 00:23:39:17 the word on the street 00:23:39:17 - 00:23:41:06 or the scuttlebutt that you might hear like 00:23:41:06 - 00:23:43:08 in the hallways of church 00:23:43:08 - 00:23:44:12 I think I see 00:23:44:12 - 00:23:45:18 people share things. 00:23:45:18 - 00:23:47:03 Even if it's not a lot of shares. 00:23:47:03 - 00:23:48:10 Like, there's, like, adult, 00:23:48:10 - 00:23:50:08 like adults that are in our 00:23:50:08 - 00:23:50:22 our ministry 00:23:50:22 - 00:23:52:01 that kind of see this stuff, 00:23:52:01 - 00:23:53:07 and they'll share it. 00:23:53:07 - 00:23:53:24 Or student 00:23:53:24 - 00:23:55:14 and multiple students like it. 00:23:55:14 - 00:23:56:14 We have a good amount of like 00:23:56:14 - 00:23:56:21 we have a good 00:23:56:21 - 00:23:57:21 amount of views. 00:23:57:21 - 00:23:58:10 If there's a good 00:23:58:10 - 00:23:59:00 amount of views, 00:23:59:00 - 00:23:59:14 it means that it's 00:23:59:14 - 00:24:00:13 kind of catching on. 00:24:00:13 - 00:24:00:24 Honestly, 00:24:00:24 - 00:24:02:09 I do a lot more reels, 00:24:02:09 - 00:24:03:15 even for like picture 00:24:03:15 - 00:24:05:04 on new picture reels. 00:24:05:04 - 00:24:06:14 And they they're, 00:24:06:14 - 00:24:07:03 they're ones 00:24:07:03 - 00:24:07:17 that kind of 00:24:07:17 - 00:24:08:11 just to kind of show 00:24:08:11 - 00:24:08:17 like what 00:24:08:17 - 00:24:09:02 we've done 00:24:09:02 - 00:24:10:08 in the night of CSM. 00:24:10:08 - 00:24:11:00 I like to do like 00:24:11:00 - 00:24:12:03 recap videos of 00:24:12:03 - 00:24:13:07 like what we did 00:24:13:07 - 00:24:14:06 that last night 00:24:14:06 - 00:24:16:01 at CSM or today or whatever, 00:24:16:01 - 00:24:17:10 just kind of show people 00:24:17:10 - 00:24:19:02 kind of quickly and pictures 00:24:19:02 - 00:24:20:10 of what we've been up to you. 00:24:20:10 - 00:24:21:19 And I think I don't 00:24:21:19 - 00:24:22:21 I think our adults 00:24:22:21 - 00:24:23:21 like parents and, 00:24:23:21 - 00:24:25:01 and the adults in the church 00:24:25:01 - 00:24:26:03 want to see what's going on 00:24:26:03 - 00:24:27:05 with the students. 00:24:27:05 - 00:24:27:23 And when the adults 00:24:27:23 - 00:24:28:17 are encouraged 00:24:28:17 - 00:24:30:00 and and feel 00:24:30:00 - 00:24:31:20 uplifted by students, 00:24:31:20 - 00:24:33:20 inspire inspiring others 00:24:33:20 - 00:24:35:19 to come and and lead 00:24:35:19 - 00:24:36:17 and leading their friends 00:24:36:17 - 00:24:37:20 to Christ and 00:24:37:20 - 00:24:39:17 and getting on stage on Sunday 00:24:39:17 - 00:24:40:01 morning 00:24:40:01 - 00:24:41:12 and leading worship and 00:24:41:12 - 00:24:42:20 and when they get on 00:24:42:20 - 00:24:44:03 stage on Sunday morning 00:24:44:03 - 00:24:45:15 and and share 00:24:45:15 - 00:24:46:14 the announcements 00:24:46:14 - 00:24:47:21 in front of the whole church. 00:24:47:21 - 00:24:48:18 that's just 00:24:48:18 - 00:24:49:00 I think 00:24:49:00 - 00:24:49:19 they're inspired by that 00:24:49:19 - 00:24:50:06 and all that. 00:24:50:06 - 00:24:50:19 You know, I, 00:24:50:19 - 00:24:52:20 I, I capture that stuff and, 00:24:52:20 - 00:24:53:12 and then I go on 00:24:53:12 - 00:24:53:24 and share it 00:24:53:24 - 00:24:54:14 with their friends. 00:24:54:14 - 00:24:55:20 Hey, this is something that 00:24:55:20 - 00:24:56:21 that happened in our church. 00:24:56:21 - 00:24:57:22 Our students are doing things. 00:24:57:22 - 00:24:59:03 So it's all related 00:24:59:03 - 00:24:59:21 in the social media 00:24:59:21 - 00:25:00:16 because you captured 00:25:00:16 - 00:25:02:03 the images and then 00:25:02:03 - 00:25:03:13 and then you, 00:25:03:13 - 00:25:04:01 share it on 00:25:04:01 - 00:25:04:23 like your platforms 00:25:04:23 - 00:25:05:18 to kind of show 00:25:05:18 - 00:25:06:20 the world and people 00:25:06:20 - 00:25:07:20 that God's up 00:25:07:20 - 00:25:08:06 to something 00:25:08:06 - 00:25:08:24 at Calvary Student 00:25:08:24 - 00:25:10:20 Ministries and, and just, 00:25:10:20 - 00:25:12:11 yeah, that's mainly it, 00:25:12:11 - 00:25:13:01 I think, is 00:25:13:01 - 00:25:14:22 just seeing people inspire 00:25:14:22 - 00:25:17:08 by what's going on. You know. 00:25:17:08 - 00:25:18:21 Well and think about it 00:25:18:21 - 00:25:20:24 if you didnโ€™t have some sort of creative outlet 00:25:20:24 - 00:25:21:22 to share stuff like that 00:25:21:22 - 00:25:23:07 like how would people know? 00:25:23:07 - 00:25:24:03 cuz if theyโ€™re not 00:25:24:03 - 00:25:25:02 They would have no idea. 00:25:25:02 - 00:25:26:19 If theyโ€™re not in the room 00:25:26:19 - 00:25:28:13 they donโ€™t know 00:25:28:13 - 00:25:29:08 Exactly. 00:25:29:08 - 00:25:30:02 Thereโ€™s another 00:25:30:02 - 00:25:31:23 You just stepped in another benefit 00:25:31:23 - 00:25:32:24 Right, like? 00:25:32:24 - 00:25:35:22 People, adults, parents 00:25:35:22 - 00:25:38:18 Pastors, elders 00:25:38:18 - 00:25:40:22 who are not coming to youth group 00:25:40:22 - 00:25:42:08 on Wednesday nights or Sunday nights 00:25:42:08 - 00:25:44:09 Especially not frequently 00:25:44:09 - 00:25:45:14 You can help them 00:25:45:14 - 00:25:48:17 Ya know, thatโ€™s a win for you 00:25:48:17 - 00:25:49:23 Maybe as a youth pastor too 00:25:49:23 - 00:25:52:01 Just putting some of that stuff out there 00:25:52:01 - 00:25:53:02 Yeah. 00:25:53:02 - 00:25:54:13 Like Nate said 00:25:54:13 - 00:25:57:17 โ€œItโ€™s not as hard as you think it might be.โ€ 00:25:57:17 - 00:25:59:01 Yeah. 00:25:59:01 - 00:25:59:18 So last word 00:25:59:18 - 00:26:01:13 last final bit of encouragement 00:26:01:13 - 00:26:03:14 What would you say to someone who 00:26:03:14 - 00:26:04:20 is on the fence 00:26:04:20 - 00:26:05:20 Whoโ€™s 00:26:05:20 - 00:26:08:00 maybe like you a year and a half ago, is like 00:26:08:00 - 00:26:09:14 โ€œIโ€™m not sure about all this stuff.โ€ 00:26:09:14 - 00:26:11:05 Whatโ€™s one thing 00:26:11:05 - 00:26:12:19 That you would say like, โ€œHey, do thisโ€ 00:26:12:19 - 00:26:15:18 Just. Just do this one thing 00:26:15:18 - 00:26:18:14 This week? 00:26:18:14 - 00:26:19:23 Yeah, that's a tough question. 00:26:19:23 - 00:26:22:23 I would say like. 00:26:23:02 - 00:26:23:19 Like kind of 00:26:23:19 - 00:26:24:16 like what you said. 00:26:24:16 - 00:26:25:18 Give it a shot 00:26:25:18 - 00:26:26:23 and see if it see 00:26:26:23 - 00:26:27:14 what happens. 00:26:27:14 - 00:26:28:02 I mean, 00:26:28:02 - 00:26:29:00 you're not going to get. 00:26:29:00 - 00:26:30:05 And don't be discouraged 00:26:30:05 - 00:26:30:20 if you don't get 00:26:30:20 - 00:26:31:23 a hundred followers 00:26:31:23 - 00:26:32:22 in the first, 00:26:32:22 - 00:26:34:07 you know, 00:26:34:07 - 00:26:35:09 couple days 00:26:35:09 - 00:26:36:15 or weeks or months even, like, 00:26:36:15 - 00:26:37:07 it takes some time 00:26:37:07 - 00:26:39:07 sometimes and sometimes slowly 00:26:39:07 - 00:26:40:16 growing thing. 00:26:40:16 - 00:26:42:01 But, 00:26:42:01 - 00:26:43:03 I say give it a shot 00:26:43:03 - 00:26:43:19 and just 00:26:43:19 - 00:26:45:08 try it out for a little bit. 00:26:45:08 - 00:26:46:20 And like I said, please 00:26:46:20 - 00:26:48:13 do not be afraid of the time. 00:26:48:13 - 00:26:50:03 Just like engaging it with it. 00:26:50:03 - 00:26:51:17 It's not as bad as you think. 00:26:51:17 - 00:26:52:22 And honestly, like, 00:26:52:22 - 00:26:54:02 I feel like youth 00:26:54:02 - 00:26:56:12 pastors are really called 00:26:56:12 - 00:26:58:00 to this generation 00:26:58:00 - 00:26:58:20 of reaching people 00:26:58:20 - 00:26:59:11 through social media. 00:26:59:11 - 00:27:00:09 That's just where we're at 00:27:00:09 - 00:27:01:06 and in society 00:27:01:06 - 00:27:02:16 where we need to be 00:27:02:16 - 00:27:04:16 on social media in some way. 00:27:04:16 - 00:27:05:10 And I don't even think 00:27:05:10 - 00:27:06:05 that Facebook's really 00:27:06:05 - 00:27:07:11 that platform for students. 00:27:07:11 - 00:27:08:09 It's more for adults 00:27:08:09 - 00:27:09:03 at this at, 00:27:09:03 - 00:27:10:04 you know, Facebook's 00:27:10:04 - 00:27:12:03 more of an adult thing. 00:27:12:03 - 00:27:14:00 And so just find that avenue 00:27:14:00 - 00:27:14:22 that you can, 00:27:14:22 - 00:27:15:24 get started 00:27:15:24 - 00:27:16:17 with and connect them 00:27:16:17 - 00:27:17:16 together, connect your 00:27:17:16 - 00:27:18:08 link, your, 00:27:18:08 - 00:27:18:22 you know, your 00:27:18:22 - 00:27:19:16 platforms together 00:27:19:16 - 00:27:20:11 so it's easier for you 00:27:20:11 - 00:27:21:17 to post multiple things. 00:27:21:17 - 00:27:23:03 You got this. 00:27:23:03 - 00:27:24:04 The church needs you. 00:27:24:04 - 00:27:24:19 You know. 00:27:24:19 - 00:27:25:08 Yeah 00:27:25:08 - 00:27:26:05 Love it 00:27:26:05 - 00:27:27:08 Love it, well hey 00:27:27:08 - 00:27:29:04 thanks for being on this morning 00:27:29:04 - 00:27:30:08 Thanks for getting up early 00:27:30:08 - 00:27:30:12 Yeah. 00:27:30:12 - 00:27:31:03 I mean, I. 00:27:31:03 - 00:27:34:06 And uh- and yeah 00:27:34:06 - 00:27:34:21 Love you, brother. 00:27:34:21 - 00:27:36:07 Hey, we'll stay in touch. 00:27:36:07 - 00:27:37:19 You too! 00:27:37:19 - 00:27:40:12 Hey! 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00:00 Intro
00:51 How did you end up as a youth pastor?
02:29 What was your original relationship with digital?
04:45 What would you say to a "regular" youth pastor?
12:10 What wins have come from social media?
19:27 What in your context has been most effective?
23:20 Additional benefits of Social
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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome back to another episode

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of the Hybrid Ministry Show

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I am your host, Nick Clason

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here with you as always

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and if youโ€™ve been here the last couple of weeks

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you know that weโ€™ve been doing some different interviews

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It is with my brother, Nate Clason

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Good morning, Nate, how you doing bro?

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Probably not better than

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your wife, though, right?

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Don't say that to

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in front of anyone.

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You know, True.

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Well, Iโ€™ve known you longer

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That is true.

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But not too much longer, so.

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Thatโ€™s probably what Iโ€™m thinking

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when I say that

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Nate, give us all

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a little bit of background

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whatโ€™s been your church

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youth ministry, student ministry

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experience and story

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kinda get that conversation

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out of the way

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set a little bit of a baseline

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as we dive into this

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social media discussion

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Yeah.

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So I felt called

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to, ministry at a Mexico

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missions trip.

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when I was in high school,

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a late high school,

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and actually kind of fell off.

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my journey a little bit.

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my journey a little bit.

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Kind of started

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serving, working

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in, like,

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the public work, you know,

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the secular work environment

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and just kind of saw

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I wasn't called

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the ministry anymore

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and got connected

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one day at my custodian

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job at a school

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with, a pastor's wife

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who was subbing at the school.

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And I told her,

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we were talking about music,

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and she found out

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that I could play

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a little bit of guitar,

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and she asked if I could

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help with her church worship

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and got connected that way.

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And through that,

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got connected

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with a, leader

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in that denomination

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who eventually got me ordained

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and got me connected

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with other pastors.

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Eventually,

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where I became a youth pastor.

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And now I'm

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serving in a little bit

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of a bigger church

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in the Taylorville area

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as the associate pastor

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of student

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ministry and worship ministry.

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So it started

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with worship ministry

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and kind of

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evolved into youth.

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And I never kind of

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saw that coming,

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but praise

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God that he got me to kind of

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where I felt

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called to years ago, you know?

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So that's cool.

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Yeah, so

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the gateway drug

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to your youth ministry

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was worship

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Yeah

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Thatโ€™s where you started

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as you can tell

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by the man bun.

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Right?

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Yeah

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Or something about that manbun

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We wonโ€™t talk about that

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But

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You started doing youth ministry

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When you jumped into

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youth ministry

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What at that point

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was your like understanding

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or your relationship

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with digital and social media

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and all that type of stuff?

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I've always kind of

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been, like.

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I've always been aware

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of social media.

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Never knew how important

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it was to student ministry.

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I didn't really,

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it was actually post Covid

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when I really.

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Well,

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in the middle of Covid

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that I started

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getting involved

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in student ministry.

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And,

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I didn't have

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too many platforms.

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And my first church

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was social media,

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mostly through Facebook.

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I had that's pretty

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much it for my first church.

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And I mostly connected

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with parents on that platform.

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and I realized

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that probably wasn't

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a strength.

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so here, though,

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I would say that I've,

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I've kind of adapted, adopted,

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Instagram, Facebook.

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I created a TikTok.

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And Nick,

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I know you're so passionate

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about YouTube,

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me and Jessica have been

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talking recently,

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my wife,

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about the idea

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of getting on YouTube here

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soon,

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just because I feel like

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that'd be a bigger,

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overall

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reach for our students

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to, to have us on YouTube.

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But I'm not super connect.

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I wasn't super connected

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initially to social media.

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I would say that.

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So what was the

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What would you say was

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the driving force

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or the catalyst

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to get you connected

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to some of those things?

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Like what was your โ€œahaโ€ moment?

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If there was one?

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well, I think seeing you,

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like, super

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passionate about it

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and watching your podcast

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really, honestly like,

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and your

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different videos and clips

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on like TikTok and stuff

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on like TikTok and stuff

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of how important

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social media is

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kind of drives me

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to make sure I have that.

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And like really,

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a lot of that

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is truly

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from like your passion for it.

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And I'm seeing other leaders

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saying, hey, you know, like,

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this is a new era.

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It's no longer like

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you're not going

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to meet in person

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as naturally and as, as,

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as often as you like.

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And there's going to be kids

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that don't make it every week.

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So it's like

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it's good for them

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to have

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some sort of

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avenue of seeing,

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some of the stuff

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that we're talking about,

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even if it's just like a recap

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or whatever,

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just to kind of give them

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a basis of

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what we're talking about. So.

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Yeah, no doubt

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I would agree

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But that feels obvious, maybe

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So tell people

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I think it was helpful

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Because youโ€™re a guy

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Who is like

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What I would deem as

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like a lot of other youth pastors in America

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Youโ€™re just kinda like

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jumping from week to week

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program to program

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like making sure you got a game

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making sure you got a message

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making sure you got a small group

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making sure you got enough leaders

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making sure you got enough leaders

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like all the things

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all the like whirlwind

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elements of just being a youth pastor

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and then

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you got someone like me

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whoโ€™s telling you

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โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€

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โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€

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speak to somebody

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whoโ€™s in the space that you were

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a year, year and a half ago

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thatโ€™s like

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โ€œYeah that sounds awesomeโ€

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โ€œI would love toโ€

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โ€œThereโ€™s no way I could ever do it!โ€

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โ€œItโ€™s too hardโ€

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โ€œItโ€™s too muchโ€

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Itโ€™s too...

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Whatever. Fill in whatever

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blank of why itโ€™s

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why itโ€™s not

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gonna be achievable or possible

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talk to somebody whoโ€™s in that

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in that sorta space

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like you were not too long ago

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Yeah.

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Well, there is a way to

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connect all your

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social media platforms

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so that when you post on

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it, posts on all of them,

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I think that's

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a big part of it.

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And honestly,

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I don't even

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like for some things.

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Like for my pictures,

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it goes from Instagram

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to Facebook.

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They're connected.

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But for some reason

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whenever I do a reel or video,

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they're not.

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So I have to go in

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and do it myself.

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Somehow.

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I'll have to

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figure all that stuff out.

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But,

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that's a part of

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it is like,

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if you haven't connected in

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some way to the same email

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and to the same connection,

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like you can link it

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so that when you post on one,

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it goes to all of them.

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And honestly,

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like not

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everyone sees each platform

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and sometimes they do.

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And that's okay.

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But I think it's

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just so important to know

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that kids are on,

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students are on

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these platforms,

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and they're

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looking for inspiration,

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they're looking for hope,

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and it's our way

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to kind of minister to people

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through the social

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media platforms

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that God has

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really entrusted us

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with as youth pastors,

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if we're on them,

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to do

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the right things on their

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not just not just,

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and it's

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good to have fun things

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and different activities

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and different

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like kind of goofy

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things for kids to kind of,

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you know, be by.

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But it's also good to have,

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you know,

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content

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that could inspire

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and change lives.

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and I, I've seen,

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aspects of both,

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you know, so it's good.

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Yep.

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So like thatโ€™s like the big

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picture reason.

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Students are on it...

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We should be on there...

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helping redeem those moments

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I like to think about

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in the Bible

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the Apostle Paul was using like

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pen and paper

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and then like mail carriers

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to like get his message across

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today I would envision that

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He would be using something like digital

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Exactly.

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Pretty vigorously

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to get his message across

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So thatโ€™s the big picture, โ€œwhyโ€

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Yeah, Yeah

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Students are there, Itโ€™s important

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Talk about like

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What it took from just like time management

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Talk about what it took from like

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platform understanding

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You, I feel like

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correct me if Iโ€™m wrong, but

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I feel like you had to

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get to know how to use

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a lot of these tools

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talk to someone who may be

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in the space

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โ€œI want to- I donโ€™t even know what

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to do. Or how to do it.โ€

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Or like whatโ€™s even

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possible

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Or what ever I should do.

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Like get real practical

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You know,

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I think

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it doesn't take as much time

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as you think.

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I mean, yes,

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creating the video.

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I mean, you never,

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I think, was like

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creating a short

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or like a reel.

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You never want to make a reel

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any longer than a minute

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or so like that.

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So you really

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it doesn't take that long

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to create that video.

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If you could do it in

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1 or 2 takes, like it's

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not a big deal with that.

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And then

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that's a big part of,

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what students look at.

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They don't watch

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like long videos.

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They're not going to watch

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a 20 minute video.

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But if you can keep it

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a minute, you know,

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that's more realistic

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for them to kind of,

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you know, dive into it

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and interact with it.

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and I think

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a lot of

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it is like interaction,

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like if you, you know,

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what did you learn from

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this video?

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You know, make comment in the

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in the comments, tell us who

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who won this in this game or

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and I don't think it's

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I don't think it's,

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it's as much it's not as time

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consuming as you think.

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It's I mean,

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some people are

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slower than others

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and some people

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are faster than others

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at getting stuff done.

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But once you kind of

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get the bearings

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and the grip

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on, on different

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like ways of doing things,

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and you're in

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kind of your groove on things,

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it becomes pretty natural

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and second nature

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and pretty fast stuff done.

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I do a kind of a good amount

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of social media stuff,

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with even both worship

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and youth a little bit.

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Not as much with worship,

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but some.

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And it's like

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it's really

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it doesn't take that much time

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to, to post stuff, I think.

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yeah, that's that's

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an encouraging thing

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to think about.

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It's like

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it's not going to take

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you forever

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to get a couple posts

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out, a day

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or maybe several week.

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I think it's good to have

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at least one a day or,

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you know, multiple a week.

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So you can kind of

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get keep interacting

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with your students.

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So I don't know,

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is that what kind of answering

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your question? Okay.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I mean thereโ€™s like...

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I canโ€™t remember, exactly

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Iโ€™m trying to look it up right now

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But thereโ€™s a book, the concept

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is called like โ€œ1,000 Hoursโ€

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Maybe itโ€™s 100 hours

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Iโ€™ll put the link in the

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shownotes if youโ€™re interested

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Iโ€™ll figure it out

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But the concept

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is like

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No one is gonna be good at anything

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until they spend

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some time on it.

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And so if you feel intimidated

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by something

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of course youโ€™re gonna

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feel intimidated by something

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new. Itโ€™s new!

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Thatโ€™s what new stuff does

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None of us are good

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at new stuff right away

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And I think itโ€™s really telling

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to your point

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You were in that boat

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And you were like:

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โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€

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Just to shed a little bit of light

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When I was telling you

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you should

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dive into some of this stuff

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You were like:

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โ€œI donโ€™t know man...โ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do that type of st-โ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do TikTokโ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do any videosโ€

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And I was just like:

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โ€œHey just try it. Itโ€™s not that hard.โ€

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Yeah.

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And so to hear you say now

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a year and something later

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โ€œItโ€™s not

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doesnโ€™t take as much time.

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as you might think.โ€

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Yeah.

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Thatโ€™s a good word on that

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The more time you

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spend on something

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the better youโ€™re gonna get with it.

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Yeah.

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And so like

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I had one of our

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interns yesterday, say

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something about

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like video editing

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She was like

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โ€œI wanna help you edit videoโ€

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โ€œI wanna do more video editing.โ€

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cuz she also wants to learn

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And I just looked at her

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I was like:

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โ€œYou just gotta do it.โ€

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Yeah.

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Like doing it is the key

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Sit down with it

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And the more you like

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sit down with it, spend time on it.

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The more you can get it done

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Yeah.

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I've learned on my phone

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cap cut.

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The free version.

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Even like it does wonders

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for a lot of things.

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Like there's

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there's a pro version

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that probably costs,

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but, like,

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even the free version

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has given me, like, a lot of,

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you know, help.

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And there's not a lot

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there's really

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not a lot to it.

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There's a lot of little things

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you have to kind of figure out

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what does what,

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but once you do,

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it's pretty easy to kind of

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get the gist of it

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pretty quickly.

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So.

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And ya know

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whatโ€™s even fun

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Yesterday, I had a

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student

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a 6th grader come in

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and I taught him how to edit

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videos for social media

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Awesome,

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And he edited two

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cool.

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In a 3 hour

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period of time

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Heโ€™d never used

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Adobe Premiere Pro

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It turned out pretty good?

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The videos?

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Yeah. Iโ€™ll post the link down below

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You can see the studentโ€™s

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edit

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Awesome

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Man, it was crispy

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It was a crispy edit

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Cool.

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Shout out to him

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Alright, so letโ€™s...

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Shift gears a little bit, Nate

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And, umm

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Talk about

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what

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Advantages

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or what wins

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you have seen

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out of social media

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in your group?

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Right, what has

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having a camera around

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What has doing different like

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Challenges

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Your little like

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devotional thoughts

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Take it any direction you want

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But what has

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having these

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having just a presence

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on social media

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what has it done in your mind

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to your youth group?

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you know, I'm

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going to say something

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that may be a little bit off

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the track of this little bit,

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but it's related to this.

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I think I've noticed

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a lot more people

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outside of my ministry

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are being reached

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than just my students.

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There's people

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that see my videos

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that that are like,

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not from our ministry,

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that are like, inspired

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and like asking questions

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and like, where is CSM at?

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And all this stuff.

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And they

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may not

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even be from around the area,

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but they're like curious

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and finding things.

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And we're starting

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to get more students now

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and like seeing my videos

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and being in

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and following things.

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And actually,

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we copied off

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your guy's church

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one time you did this thing

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where you went up

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to students and go,

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hey, you know,

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do you follow Cross Creek,

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your church?

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And I go, hey,

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do you follow

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CSM on on TikTok

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or do you follow CSM

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on, you know, Instagram?

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And they're always scrambling

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and they show their phone

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and they either know

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who they do

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or because of that,

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they start following.

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You know,

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I think it's just

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so important to be present

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there.

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and, give them an avenue

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where they can

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if they missed a week

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and I, I don't always do it,

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but I try to do a recap video

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from the week before

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and talk

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more about different messages.

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And, I think they need that

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to kind of

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if they're not there, like,

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hey, they can

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they can see what's going on.

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So that's, that's really good.

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Yeah.

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Well and itโ€™s even like

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Ya know

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you even said it

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there, like

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just by doing like something

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some little like

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challenge thing

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like it created like

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a fun

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Yeah.

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moment.

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Yeah.

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And then if

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you do go around

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and youโ€™re kinda like

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doing man on the street-style videos

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and youโ€™re

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interviewing people and tryina

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catch em not following you,

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or prove to

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people that they are following you.

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Then later, theyโ€™re gonna look

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for that online.

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Right? And then thatโ€™s gonna create

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and organic moment

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an organic shareable moment

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that they might

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show their friends

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โ€œHey, check this video out!โ€

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or something like that, right?

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like something that they could even

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then be proud of

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Ya know, and so thereโ€™s

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I think, opportunity

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Not

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just with people who donโ€™t go to your church

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But also,

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with students that are

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Yeah.

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in your youth ministry.

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that can, ya know

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help them feel

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like some sort of sense of ownership

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and some sort of like, win

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in and through your social media

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itโ€™s in the

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itโ€™s a really low

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hanging fruit there, ya know?

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Yeah.

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And I

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feel like a lot of people.

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A lot of students,

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specifically students

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want to see other students.

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Sorry.

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On videos

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and, like, in things

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instead of just me.

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Just Jessica.

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That's the leader.

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They want to see students.

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And when they see students,

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they're more attentive

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to watch

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and kind of

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participate with it

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when when they're there

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instead of

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just adults

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kind of sharing recaps

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or whatever

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that may look like, you know?

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So I've learned that

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kind of the hard way

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a little bit, you know, so.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And weโ€™re all just trying stuff, right?

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Like what I did, when I moved here

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I guess just about two years ago, now

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when I moved here like

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my strategy that I brought in is

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not the same strategy that I have today

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So, as you get going

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and I think thatโ€™s a good encouragement too

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back to the question a minute ago

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like just get started

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Yeah.

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and once you get started

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youโ€™ll start to like uncover things

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that you didnโ€™t know

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Right? Like

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a great example

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in our context is

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we had a resident, Caleb

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two videos ago

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Iโ€™ll link it right here

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Caleb

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But he

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had this idea

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about this thing called the Social Challenge

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and we would do a film

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a filming of it every single Wednesday night

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and he wanted that to be like

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a long form version of a YouTube video

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and so

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we did that for a semester

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and I mean, that, that

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project would eat his lunch

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cuz he would do it on a Wednesday night

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and then he would work all day

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on a Thursday on it

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and he didnโ€™t work on Fridays

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so like his whole Thursday

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was eaten up by getting this social challenge edited

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posted

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up and live on YouTube

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and. But we, so we

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killed the long-form version of it

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because it was like the

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time factor. Like the immediacy of it

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But we shifted it to more short style

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more challenge style

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and what thatโ€™s done

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is that has like

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you said, that has put so many more

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students on our

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platform

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so weโ€™ve taken the same block of time

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that we would have taken to shoot

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one big long video

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and weโ€™ll just shoot like 5

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Okay.

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Five shorts.

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And then we can just bank them

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And so we got em

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Like I got in my

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folder right now, I got like

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5 or 6

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of like a certain style of game

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we call them drafts

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and then I got 5 or 6

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of another certain style of game

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we call it 7 Questions

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Yeah.

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And so like I have

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Some pretty like set

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what I post every day

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and when I post certain things

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but like

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when I donโ€™t have something

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or when I need something to kinda

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fill the gaps

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like I got those

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Theyโ€™re just sitting

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right there. And so

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we stumbled into that

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Right? Like what we started with

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the idea of the social challenge

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what we started with

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is not what it is now

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Yeah.

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And whatโ€™s cool, is like

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it, in the room

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like in our programming

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itโ€™s still called the same thing

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from when it started

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to what it is today

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we still call it the โ€œSocial Challengeโ€

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so students know what it is

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and students know thereโ€™s an opportunity

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for them to compete

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and get on camera

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and they love that stuff

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That's awesome.

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And itโ€™s opt-in-able

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though, ya know?

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and thatโ€™s the nice part

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is like we say, โ€œHeyโ€

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โ€œDuring free time, if anyone wants

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to come do the Social Challenge

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weโ€™ll be back here in this room.โ€

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And so itโ€™s not forced

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Yeah.

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Weโ€™re not making anyone

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who is shy or whatever

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have to get on it

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But then you know

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thereโ€™s definitely kids who DO want to be on it

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Yeah.

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And theyโ€™re like banging down the door

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to get in there

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Do you have, like,

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the same, like,

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smaller, kind of smaller

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group of students

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that always

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want to be on videos?

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Or do you have a pretty good

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variety of students?

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I want to be on videos

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because I feel like it's

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kind of slim for me.

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of kids that actually

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want to be on video.

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Yeah, I mean itโ€™s

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Yeah, I think itโ€™s

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the same kinda group

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Yeah.

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the same like middle school

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boys

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Yeah.

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like the kid who edited

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is the kid whoโ€™s always on โ€˜em, too.

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Yeah yeah

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yeah yeah.

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Like heโ€™s a

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heโ€™s very camera hungry

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Yeah yeah.

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And thatโ€™s ok

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everyoneโ€™s gonna go through waves

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this kid doesnโ€™t

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heโ€™s a 6th grade-7th grade boy

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heโ€™s not insecure about anything

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That's awesome

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But like one day he will be

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He probably wonโ€™t be that kid

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for his entire youth ministry career

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Right?

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And so like, you just

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thatโ€™s the nice part is you can offer that

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and if you got kids

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The other fun thing weโ€™ve started to do

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Beyond just

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being on camera

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is like helping run the camera

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And so like maybe they donโ€™t wanna be on the camera

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but maybe they can be like behind the scenes

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or edit

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Yeah.

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And that- students love

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getting a chance to do that

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And the more, I guess the older Iโ€™m getting

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the more Iโ€™m trying to figure out, like โ€œHow can I

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not just do student ministry

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for students,

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but how can I

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let students do student ministry for students?โ€

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That's good.

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So thatโ€™s one of the things weโ€™re trying to pursue

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But Nate, tell me what

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in your context has

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been the most fun, or most effective thing?

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that youโ€™ve done

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just with regard to digital

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it doesnโ€™t have to be

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social media- anything, it can be anything

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any sort of thing in the digital space

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Well, I'll be honest.

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I've really recently

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kind of started a. And this.

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I don't even know

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if you consider this

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what you're looking at,

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but I started a Snapchat,

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group with our students,

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and I go, hey, invite.

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And that's a it's

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me social media

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invite

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anyone that is

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that is not that

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I don't have access to

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into this group chat.

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And people are just adding

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people as we go.

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And as soon as I add

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someone else

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and they have friends

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that are from CSM, I'm them.

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And it's like

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the group is grown,

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but the more people

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that are in there,

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the more it gets blown up.

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It's been fun to

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just kind of see it

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expand slowly

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throughout

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the last couple weeks.

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That's

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something that

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I'm excited about

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because it's like it's

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a different way of connecting.

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We have GroupMe

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and we connect through

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GroupMe mainly,

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but I think Snapchat

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should have a funner,

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like fun, fun way to like

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send funny pictures

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and whatever.

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Like you can best group

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like this

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kid was blown it up

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with with like

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filters of people's faces

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being all distorted and stuff.

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And just as he's being goofy

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and I don't know

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if that answers your question

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the way you wanted me to,

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but it's just, you know.

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Yeah, no, itโ€™s great!

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I mean itโ€™s

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thatโ€™s the thing, like

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every church is different, right?

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So Iโ€™m not going into this with any sorta

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like agenda

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Iโ€™m just tryina get

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to know what real youth pastors

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and real churches are doing

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like to connect with students

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and thatโ€™s a great example, because

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youth ministry 15 years ago

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like you donโ€™t have that

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opportunity

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whether

00:21:01:02 - 00:21:02:09
Cuz like our church

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doesnโ€™t let us use Snapchat

00:21:03:18 - 00:21:04:10
Oh, really?

00:21:04:10 - 00:21:06:01
Whether itโ€™s Snapchat

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or whether itโ€™s GroupMe

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or whether itโ€™s a Group Message

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or whether itโ€™s an Instagram DM Group

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The concept

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is a group message

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Yeah.

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You and I, if we were youth pastors

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fifteen years ago

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we donโ€™t have that opportunity

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Yeah.

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That doesnโ€™t exist

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And so, thatโ€™s why I say

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itโ€™s so important for youth pastors to just

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figure something out, because

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look at that opportunity

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like you have a chance to

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message your students

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on like a Tuesday morning

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Yeah.

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like otherwise you would have

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had to wait for them to

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Yeah.

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come to you

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to be a captive audience

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Yeah.

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But now we have the ability to

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And thereโ€™s like

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thereโ€™s checks and balances within that

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and thereโ€™s times where that can get abused

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but at the end of the day, like

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The opportunity that we have is fantastic

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Yeah.

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So, itโ€™s

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Important I think to lean into that

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We should ask our dad

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how he did that

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when he was a youth pastor.

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You know, just to see for him.

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Fifteen years ago?

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What?

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Because he was doing it. What?

00:22:00:05 - 00:22:01:05
It was like not many.

00:22:01:05 - 00:22:02:05
There wasn't cell phones,

00:22:02:05 - 00:22:02:12
you know.

00:22:02:12 - 00:22:03:08
So how do you.

00:22:03:08 - 00:22:04:16
Well yeah, you just didnโ€™t

00:22:04:16 - 00:22:05:16
do a group chat

00:22:05:16 - 00:22:06:03
Yeah.

00:22:06:03 - 00:22:08:00
It was all about the in-person

00:22:08:00 - 00:22:08:12
It was.

00:22:08:12 - 00:22:09:01
Yeah.

00:22:09:01 - 00:22:11:08
And thatโ€™s the struggle

00:22:11:08 - 00:22:13:14
Right? Like the struggle now

00:22:13:14 - 00:22:14:22
sometimes when

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you introduce an idea of digital

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there may be an older

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generation or demographic

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that remembers it done a different way

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And no shade on that or them

00:22:26:19 - 00:22:28:06
but the fact is we just

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live in a different day

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And so

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and whatever

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And so however they were doing things before

00:22:36:12 - 00:22:39:03
teenagers have zero concept of that today

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They are digital natives

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and digital dependents

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And so to

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not have something

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Right? And thatโ€™s the thing when I hear arguments

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from youth pastors who say:

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โ€œWell, I donโ€™t use socialโ€

00:22:50:20 - 00:22:52:08
โ€œWell do you have a group chat?โ€

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โ€œWell yeah we have a group chat!โ€

00:22:53:08 - 00:22:54:22
โ€œWell, youโ€™re doing something!โ€

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Youโ€™re not doing nothing

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And so thereโ€™s

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Thatโ€™s the thing I love, I love that

00:23:00:08 - 00:23:02:17
the sky is legitimately the limit

00:23:02:17 - 00:23:05:06
Wherever your creativity will lead you

00:23:05:06 - 00:23:06:06
in todayโ€™s day-in-age

00:23:06:06 - 00:23:07:19
you can do

00:23:07:19 - 00:23:08:17
you can do anything

00:23:08:17 - 00:23:10:12
Right? And it can be

00:23:10:12 - 00:23:12:19
as robust of a strategy as you want

00:23:12:19 - 00:23:13:24
or it can be as like

00:23:13:24 - 00:23:16:14
paired down and focused on your kids

00:23:16:14 - 00:23:18:21
Both are great, I think

00:23:18:21 - 00:23:19:17
Yeah.

00:23:19:17 - 00:23:21:14
So last thing, Nate

00:23:21:14 - 00:23:23:03
How do you

00:23:23:03 - 00:23:24:15
know somethingโ€™s working?

00:23:24:15 - 00:23:27:08
Like when you post something

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Or- how do you know when like

00:23:29:07 - 00:23:31:11
that was good. That was a win?

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What are some of the things that

00:23:33:13 - 00:23:34:24
you look for, whether it be

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like metrics, like number type things

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Or even just like

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the word on the street

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or the scuttlebutt that you might hear like

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in the hallways of church

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I think I see

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people share things.

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Even if it's not a lot of shares.

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Like, there's, like, adult,

00:23:48:10 - 00:23:50:08
like adults that are in our

00:23:50:08 - 00:23:50:22
our ministry

00:23:50:22 - 00:23:52:01
that kind of see this stuff,

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and they'll share it.

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Or student

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and multiple students like it.

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We have a good amount of like

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we have a good

00:23:56:21 - 00:23:57:21
amount of views.

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If there's a good

00:23:58:10 - 00:23:59:00
amount of views,

00:23:59:00 - 00:23:59:14
it means that it's

00:23:59:14 - 00:24:00:13
kind of catching on.

00:24:00:13 - 00:24:00:24
Honestly,

00:24:00:24 - 00:24:02:09
I do a lot more reels,

00:24:02:09 - 00:24:03:15
even for like picture

00:24:03:15 - 00:24:05:04
on new picture reels.

00:24:05:04 - 00:24:06:14
And they they're,

00:24:06:14 - 00:24:07:03
they're ones

00:24:07:03 - 00:24:07:17
that kind of

00:24:07:17 - 00:24:08:11
just to kind of show

00:24:08:11 - 00:24:08:17
like what

00:24:08:17 - 00:24:09:02
we've done

00:24:09:02 - 00:24:10:08
in the night of CSM.

00:24:10:08 - 00:24:11:00
I like to do like

00:24:11:00 - 00:24:12:03
recap videos of

00:24:12:03 - 00:24:13:07
like what we did

00:24:13:07 - 00:24:14:06
that last night

00:24:14:06 - 00:24:16:01
at CSM or today or whatever,

00:24:16:01 - 00:24:17:10
just kind of show people

00:24:17:10 - 00:24:19:02
kind of quickly and pictures

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of what we've been up to you.

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And I think I don't

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I think our adults

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like parents and,

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and the adults in the church

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want to see what's going on

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with the students.

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And when the adults

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are encouraged

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and and feel

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uplifted by students,

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inspire inspiring others

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to come and and lead

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and leading their friends

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to Christ and

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and getting on stage on Sunday

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morning

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and leading worship and

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and when they get on

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stage on Sunday morning

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and and share

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the announcements

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in front of the whole church.

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that's just

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I think

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they're inspired by that

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and all that.

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You know, I,

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I, I capture that stuff and,

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and then I go on

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and share it

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with their friends.

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Hey, this is something that

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that happened in our church.

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Our students are doing things.

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So it's all related

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in the social media

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because you captured

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the images and then

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and then you,

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share it on

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like your platforms

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to kind of show

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the world and people

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that God's up

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to something

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at Calvary Student

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Ministries and, and just,

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yeah, that's mainly it,

00:25:12:11 - 00:25:13:01
I think, is

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just seeing people inspire

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by what's going on. You know.

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Well and think about it

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if you didnโ€™t have some sort of creative outlet

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to share stuff like that

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like how would people know?

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cuz if theyโ€™re not

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They would have no idea.

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If theyโ€™re not in the room

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they donโ€™t know

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Exactly.

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Thereโ€™s another

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You just stepped in another benefit

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Right, like?

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People, adults, parents

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Pastors, elders

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who are not coming to youth group

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on Wednesday nights or Sunday nights

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Especially not frequently

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You can help them

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Ya know, thatโ€™s a win for you

00:25:48:17 - 00:25:49:23
Maybe as a youth pastor too

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Just putting some of that stuff out there

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Yeah.

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Like Nate said

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โ€œItโ€™s not as hard as you think it might be.โ€

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Yeah.

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So last word

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last final bit of encouragement

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What would you say to someone who

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is on the fence

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Whoโ€™s

00:26:05:20 - 00:26:08:00
maybe like you a year and a half ago, is like

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โ€œIโ€™m not sure about all this stuff.โ€

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Whatโ€™s one thing

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That you would say like, โ€œHey, do thisโ€

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Just. Just do this one thing

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This week?

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Yeah, that's a tough question.

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I would say like.

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Like kind of

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like what you said.

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Give it a shot

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and see if it see

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what happens.

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I mean,

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you're not going to get.

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And don't be discouraged

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if you don't get

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a hundred followers

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in the first,

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you know,

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couple days

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or weeks or months even, like,

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it takes some time

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sometimes and sometimes slowly

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growing thing.

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But,

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I say give it a shot

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and just

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try it out for a little bit.

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And like I said, please

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do not be afraid of the time.

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Just like engaging it with it.

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It's not as bad as you think.

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And honestly, like,

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I feel like youth

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pastors are really called

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to this generation

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of reaching people

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through social media.

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That's just where we're at

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and in society

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where we need to be

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on social media in some way.

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And I don't even think

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that Facebook's really

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that platform for students.

00:27:07:11 - 00:27:08:09
It's more for adults

00:27:08:09 - 00:27:09:03
at this at,

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you know, Facebook's

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more of an adult thing.

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And so just find that avenue

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that you can,

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get started

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with and connect them

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together, connect your

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link, your,

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you know, your

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platforms together

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so it's easier for you

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to post multiple things.

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You got this.

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The church needs you.

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You know.

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Yeah

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Love it

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Love it, well hey

00:27:27:08 - 00:27:29:04
thanks for being on this morning

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Thanks for getting up early

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Yeah.

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I mean, I.

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And uh- and yeah

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Love you, brother.

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Hey, we'll stay in touch.

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You too!

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00:00 Intro
00:51 How did you end up as a youth pastor?
02:29 What was your original relationship with digital?
04:45 What would you say to a "regular" youth pastor?
12:10 What wins have come from social media?
19:27 What in your context has been most effective?
23:20 Additional benefits of Social
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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome back to another episode

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of the Hybrid Ministry Show

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I am your host, Nick Clason

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here with you as always

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and if youโ€™ve been here the last couple of weeks

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you know that weโ€™ve been doing some different interviews

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It is with my brother, Nate Clason

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Good morning, Nate, how you doing bro?

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Probably not better than

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your wife, though, right?

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Don't say that to

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in front of anyone.

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You know, True.

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Well, Iโ€™ve known you longer

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That is true.

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But not too much longer, so.

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Thatโ€™s probably what Iโ€™m thinking

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when I say that

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Nate, give us all

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a little bit of background

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whatโ€™s been your church

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youth ministry, student ministry

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experience and story

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kinda get that conversation

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out of the way

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set a little bit of a baseline

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as we dive into this

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social media discussion

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Yeah.

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So I felt called

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to, ministry at a Mexico

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missions trip.

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when I was in high school,

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a late high school,

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and actually kind of fell off.

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my journey a little bit.

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my journey a little bit.

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Kind of started

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serving, working

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in, like,

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the public work, you know,

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the secular work environment

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and just kind of saw

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I wasn't called

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the ministry anymore

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and got connected

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one day at my custodian

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job at a school

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with, a pastor's wife

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who was subbing at the school.

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And I told her,

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we were talking about music,

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and she found out

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that I could play

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a little bit of guitar,

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and she asked if I could

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help with her church worship

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and got connected that way.

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And through that,

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got connected

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with a, leader

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in that denomination

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who eventually got me ordained

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and got me connected

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with other pastors.

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Eventually,

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where I became a youth pastor.

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And now I'm

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serving in a little bit

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of a bigger church

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in the Taylorville area

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as the associate pastor

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of student

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ministry and worship ministry.

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So it started

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with worship ministry

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and kind of

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evolved into youth.

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And I never kind of

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saw that coming,

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but praise

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God that he got me to kind of

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where I felt

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called to years ago, you know?

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So that's cool.

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Yeah, so

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the gateway drug

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to your youth ministry

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was worship

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Yeah

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Thatโ€™s where you started

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as you can tell

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by the man bun.

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Right?

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Yeah

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Or something about that manbun

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We wonโ€™t talk about that

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But

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You started doing youth ministry

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When you jumped into

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youth ministry

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What at that point

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was your like understanding

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or your relationship

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with digital and social media

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and all that type of stuff?

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I've always kind of

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been, like.

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I've always been aware

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of social media.

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Never knew how important

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it was to student ministry.

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I didn't really,

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it was actually post Covid

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when I really.

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Well,

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in the middle of Covid

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that I started

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getting involved

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in student ministry.

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And,

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I didn't have

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too many platforms.

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And my first church

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was social media,

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mostly through Facebook.

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I had that's pretty

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much it for my first church.

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And I mostly connected

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with parents on that platform.

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and I realized

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that probably wasn't

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a strength.

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so here, though,

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I would say that I've,

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I've kind of adapted, adopted,

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Instagram, Facebook.

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I created a TikTok.

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And Nick,

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I know you're so passionate

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about YouTube,

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me and Jessica have been

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talking recently,

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my wife,

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about the idea

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of getting on YouTube here

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soon,

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just because I feel like

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that'd be a bigger,

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overall

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reach for our students

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to, to have us on YouTube.

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But I'm not super connect.

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I wasn't super connected

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initially to social media.

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I would say that.

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So what was the

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What would you say was

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the driving force

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or the catalyst

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to get you connected

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to some of those things?

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Like what was your โ€œahaโ€ moment?

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If there was one?

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well, I think seeing you,

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like, super

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passionate about it

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and watching your podcast

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really, honestly like,

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and your

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different videos and clips

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on like TikTok and stuff

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on like TikTok and stuff

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of how important

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social media is

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kind of drives me

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to make sure I have that.

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And like really,

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a lot of that

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is truly

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from like your passion for it.

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And I'm seeing other leaders

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saying, hey, you know, like,

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this is a new era.

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It's no longer like

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you're not going

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to meet in person

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as naturally and as, as,

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as often as you like.

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And there's going to be kids

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that don't make it every week.

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So it's like

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it's good for them

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to have

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some sort of

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avenue of seeing,

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some of the stuff

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that we're talking about,

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even if it's just like a recap

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or whatever,

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just to kind of give them

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a basis of

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what we're talking about. So.

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Yeah, no doubt

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I would agree

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But that feels obvious, maybe

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So tell people

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I think it was helpful

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Because youโ€™re a guy

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Who is like

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What I would deem as

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like a lot of other youth pastors in America

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Youโ€™re just kinda like

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jumping from week to week

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program to program

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like making sure you got a game

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making sure you got a message

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making sure you got a small group

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making sure you got enough leaders

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making sure you got enough leaders

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like all the things

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all the like whirlwind

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elements of just being a youth pastor

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and then

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you got someone like me

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whoโ€™s telling you

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โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€

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โ€œyou need to get on social mediaโ€

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speak to somebody

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whoโ€™s in the space that you were

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a year, year and a half ago

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thatโ€™s like

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โ€œYeah that sounds awesomeโ€

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โ€œI would love toโ€

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โ€œThereโ€™s no way I could ever do it!โ€

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โ€œItโ€™s too hardโ€

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โ€œItโ€™s too muchโ€

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Itโ€™s too...

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Whatever. Fill in whatever

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blank of why itโ€™s

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why itโ€™s not

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gonna be achievable or possible

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talk to somebody whoโ€™s in that

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in that sorta space

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like you were not too long ago

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Yeah.

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Well, there is a way to

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connect all your

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social media platforms

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so that when you post on

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it, posts on all of them,

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I think that's

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a big part of it.

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And honestly,

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I don't even

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like for some things.

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Like for my pictures,

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it goes from Instagram

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to Facebook.

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They're connected.

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But for some reason

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whenever I do a reel or video,

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they're not.

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So I have to go in

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and do it myself.

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Somehow.

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I'll have to

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figure all that stuff out.

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But,

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that's a part of

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it is like,

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if you haven't connected in

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some way to the same email

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and to the same connection,

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like you can link it

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so that when you post on one,

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it goes to all of them.

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And honestly,

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like not

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everyone sees each platform

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and sometimes they do.

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And that's okay.

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But I think it's

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just so important to know

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that kids are on,

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students are on

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these platforms,

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and they're

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looking for inspiration,

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they're looking for hope,

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and it's our way

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to kind of minister to people

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through the social

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media platforms

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that God has

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really entrusted us

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with as youth pastors,

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if we're on them,

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to do

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the right things on their

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not just not just,

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and it's

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good to have fun things

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and different activities

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and different

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like kind of goofy

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things for kids to kind of,

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you know, be by.

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But it's also good to have,

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you know,

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content

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that could inspire

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and change lives.

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and I, I've seen,

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aspects of both,

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you know, so it's good.

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Yep.

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So like thatโ€™s like the big

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picture reason.

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Students are on it...

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We should be on there...

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helping redeem those moments

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I like to think about

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in the Bible

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the Apostle Paul was using like

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pen and paper

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and then like mail carriers

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to like get his message across

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today I would envision that

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He would be using something like digital

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Exactly.

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Pretty vigorously

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to get his message across

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So thatโ€™s the big picture, โ€œwhyโ€

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Yeah, Yeah

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Students are there, Itโ€™s important

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Talk about like

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What it took from just like time management

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Talk about what it took from like

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platform understanding

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You, I feel like

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correct me if Iโ€™m wrong, but

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I feel like you had to

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get to know how to use

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a lot of these tools

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talk to someone who may be

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in the space

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โ€œI want to- I donโ€™t even know what

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to do. Or how to do it.โ€

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Or like whatโ€™s even

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possible

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Or what ever I should do.

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Like get real practical

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You know,

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I think

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it doesn't take as much time

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as you think.

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I mean, yes,

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creating the video.

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I mean, you never,

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I think, was like

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creating a short

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or like a reel.

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You never want to make a reel

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any longer than a minute

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or so like that.

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So you really

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it doesn't take that long

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to create that video.

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If you could do it in

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1 or 2 takes, like it's

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not a big deal with that.

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And then

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that's a big part of,

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what students look at.

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They don't watch

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like long videos.

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They're not going to watch

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a 20 minute video.

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But if you can keep it

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a minute, you know,

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that's more realistic

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for them to kind of,

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you know, dive into it

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and interact with it.

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and I think

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a lot of

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it is like interaction,

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like if you, you know,

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what did you learn from

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this video?

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You know, make comment in the

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in the comments, tell us who

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who won this in this game or

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and I don't think it's

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I don't think it's,

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it's as much it's not as time

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consuming as you think.

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It's I mean,

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some people are

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slower than others

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and some people

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are faster than others

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at getting stuff done.

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But once you kind of

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get the bearings

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and the grip

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on, on different

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like ways of doing things,

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and you're in

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kind of your groove on things,

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it becomes pretty natural

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and second nature

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and pretty fast stuff done.

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I do a kind of a good amount

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of social media stuff,

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with even both worship

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and youth a little bit.

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Not as much with worship,

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but some.

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And it's like

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it's really

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it doesn't take that much time

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to, to post stuff, I think.

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yeah, that's that's

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an encouraging thing

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to think about.

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It's like

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it's not going to take

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you forever

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to get a couple posts

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out, a day

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or maybe several week.

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I think it's good to have

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at least one a day or,

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you know, multiple a week.

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So you can kind of

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get keep interacting

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with your students.

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So I don't know,

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is that what kind of answering

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your question? Okay.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I mean thereโ€™s like...

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I canโ€™t remember, exactly

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Iโ€™m trying to look it up right now

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But thereโ€™s a book, the concept

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is called like โ€œ1,000 Hoursโ€

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Maybe itโ€™s 100 hours

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Iโ€™ll put the link in the

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shownotes if youโ€™re interested

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Iโ€™ll figure it out

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But the concept

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is like

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No one is gonna be good at anything

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until they spend

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some time on it.

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And so if you feel intimidated

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by something

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of course youโ€™re gonna

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feel intimidated by something

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new. Itโ€™s new!

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Thatโ€™s what new stuff does

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None of us are good

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at new stuff right away

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And I think itโ€™s really telling

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to your point

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You were in that boat

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And you were like:

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โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€

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Just to shed a little bit of light

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When I was telling you

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you should

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dive into some of this stuff

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You were like:

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โ€œI donโ€™t know man...โ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do that type of st-โ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do TikTokโ€

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โ€œI donโ€™t really do any videosโ€

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And I was just like:

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โ€œHey just try it. Itโ€™s not that hard.โ€

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Yeah.

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And so to hear you say now

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a year and something later

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โ€œItโ€™s not

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doesnโ€™t take as much time.

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as you might think.โ€

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Yeah.

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Thatโ€™s a good word on that

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The more time you

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spend on something

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the better youโ€™re gonna get with it.

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Yeah.

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And so like

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I had one of our

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interns yesterday, say

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something about

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like video editing

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She was like

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โ€œI wanna help you edit videoโ€

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โ€œI wanna do more video editing.โ€

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cuz she also wants to learn

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And I just looked at her

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I was like:

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โ€œYou just gotta do it.โ€

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Yeah.

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Like doing it is the key

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Sit down with it

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And the more you like

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sit down with it, spend time on it.

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The more you can get it done

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Yeah.

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I've learned on my phone

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cap cut.

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The free version.

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Even like it does wonders

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for a lot of things.

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Like there's

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there's a pro version

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that probably costs,

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but, like,

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even the free version

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has given me, like, a lot of,

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you know, help.

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And there's not a lot

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there's really

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not a lot to it.

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There's a lot of little things

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you have to kind of figure out

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what does what,

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but once you do,

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it's pretty easy to kind of

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get the gist of it

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pretty quickly.

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So.

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And ya know

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whatโ€™s even fun

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Yesterday, I had a

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student

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a 6th grader come in

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and I taught him how to edit

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videos for social media

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Awesome,

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And he edited two

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cool.

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In a 3 hour

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period of time

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Heโ€™d never used

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Adobe Premiere Pro

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It turned out pretty good?

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The videos?

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Yeah. Iโ€™ll post the link down below

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You can see the studentโ€™s

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edit

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Awesome

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Man, it was crispy

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It was a crispy edit

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Cool.

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Shout out to him

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Alright, so letโ€™s...

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Shift gears a little bit, Nate

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And, umm

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Talk about

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what

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Advantages

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or what wins

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you have seen

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out of social media

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in your group?

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Right, what has

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having a camera around

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What has doing different like

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Challenges

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Your little like

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devotional thoughts

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Take it any direction you want

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But what has

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having these

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having just a presence

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on social media

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what has it done in your mind

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to your youth group?

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you know, I'm

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going to say something

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that may be a little bit off

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the track of this little bit,

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but it's related to this.

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I think I've noticed

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a lot more people

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outside of my ministry

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are being reached

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than just my students.

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There's people

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that see my videos

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that that are like,

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not from our ministry,

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that are like, inspired

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and like asking questions

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and like, where is CSM at?

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And all this stuff.

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And they

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may not

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even be from around the area,

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but they're like curious

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and finding things.

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And we're starting

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to get more students now

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and like seeing my videos

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and being in

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and following things.

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And actually,

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we copied off

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your guy's church

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one time you did this thing

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where you went up

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to students and go,

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hey, you know,

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do you follow Cross Creek,

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your church?

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And I go, hey,

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do you follow

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CSM on on TikTok

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or do you follow CSM

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on, you know, Instagram?

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And they're always scrambling

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and they show their phone

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and they either know

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who they do

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or because of that,

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they start following.

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You know,

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I think it's just

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so important to be present

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there.

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and, give them an avenue

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where they can

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if they missed a week

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and I, I don't always do it,

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but I try to do a recap video

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from the week before

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and talk

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more about different messages.

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And, I think they need that

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to kind of

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if they're not there, like,

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hey, they can

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they can see what's going on.

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So that's, that's really good.

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Yeah.

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Well and itโ€™s even like

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Ya know

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you even said it

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there, like

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just by doing like something

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some little like

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challenge thing

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like it created like

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a fun

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Yeah.

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moment.

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Yeah.

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And then if

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you do go around

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and youโ€™re kinda like

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doing man on the street-style videos

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and youโ€™re

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interviewing people and tryina

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catch em not following you,

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or prove to

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people that they are following you.

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Then later, theyโ€™re gonna look

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for that online.

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Right? And then thatโ€™s gonna create

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and organic moment

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an organic shareable moment

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that they might

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show their friends

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โ€œHey, check this video out!โ€

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or something like that, right?

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like something that they could even

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then be proud of

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Ya know, and so thereโ€™s

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I think, opportunity

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Not

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just with people who donโ€™t go to your church

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But also,

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with students that are

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Yeah.

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in your youth ministry.

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that can, ya know

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help them feel

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like some sort of sense of ownership

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and some sort of like, win

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in and through your social media

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itโ€™s in the

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itโ€™s a really low

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hanging fruit there, ya know?

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Yeah.

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And I

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feel like a lot of people.

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A lot of students,

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specifically students

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want to see other students.

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Sorry.

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On videos

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and, like, in things

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instead of just me.

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Just Jessica.

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That's the leader.

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They want to see students.

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And when they see students,

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they're more attentive

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to watch

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and kind of

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participate with it

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when when they're there

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instead of

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just adults

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kind of sharing recaps

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or whatever

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that may look like, you know?

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So I've learned that

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kind of the hard way

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a little bit, you know, so.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And weโ€™re all just trying stuff, right?

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Like what I did, when I moved here

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I guess just about two years ago, now

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when I moved here like

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my strategy that I brought in is

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not the same strategy that I have today

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So, as you get going

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and I think thatโ€™s a good encouragement too

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back to the question a minute ago

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like just get started

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Yeah.

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and once you get started

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youโ€™ll start to like uncover things

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that you didnโ€™t know

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Right? Like

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a great example

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in our context is

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we had a resident, Caleb

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two videos ago

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Iโ€™ll link it right here

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Caleb

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But he

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had this idea

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about this thing called the Social Challenge

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and we would do a film

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a filming of it every single Wednesday night

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and he wanted that to be like

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a long form version of a YouTube video

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and so

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we did that for a semester

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and I mean, that, that

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project would eat his lunch

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cuz he would do it on a Wednesday night

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and then he would work all day

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on a Thursday on it

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and he didnโ€™t work on Fridays

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so like his whole Thursday

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was eaten up by getting this social challenge edited

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posted

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up and live on YouTube

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and. But we, so we

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killed the long-form version of it

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because it was like the

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time factor. Like the immediacy of it

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But we shifted it to more short style

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more challenge style

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and what thatโ€™s done

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is that has like

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you said, that has put so many more

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students on our

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platform

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so weโ€™ve taken the same block of time

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that we would have taken to shoot

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one big long video

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and weโ€™ll just shoot like 5

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Okay.

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Five shorts.

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And then we can just bank them

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And so we got em

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Like I got in my

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folder right now, I got like

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5 or 6

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of like a certain style of game

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we call them drafts

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and then I got 5 or 6

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of another certain style of game

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we call it 7 Questions

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Yeah.

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And so like I have

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Some pretty like set

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what I post every day

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and when I post certain things

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but like

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when I donโ€™t have something

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or when I need something to kinda

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fill the gaps

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like I got those

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Theyโ€™re just sitting

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right there. And so

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we stumbled into that

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Right? Like what we started with

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the idea of the social challenge

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what we started with

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is not what it is now

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Yeah.

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And whatโ€™s cool, is like

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it, in the room

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like in our programming

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itโ€™s still called the same thing

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from when it started

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to what it is today

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we still call it the โ€œSocial Challengeโ€

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so students know what it is

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and students know thereโ€™s an opportunity

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for them to compete

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and get on camera

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and they love that stuff

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That's awesome.

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And itโ€™s opt-in-able

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though, ya know?

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and thatโ€™s the nice part

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is like we say, โ€œHeyโ€

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โ€œDuring free time, if anyone wants

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to come do the Social Challenge

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weโ€™ll be back here in this room.โ€

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And so itโ€™s not forced

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Yeah.

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Weโ€™re not making anyone

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who is shy or whatever

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have to get on it

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But then you know

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thereโ€™s definitely kids who DO want to be on it

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Yeah.

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And theyโ€™re like banging down the door

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to get in there

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Do you have, like,

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the same, like,

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smaller, kind of smaller

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group of students

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that always

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want to be on videos?

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Or do you have a pretty good

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variety of students?

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I want to be on videos

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because I feel like it's

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kind of slim for me.

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of kids that actually

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want to be on video.

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Yeah, I mean itโ€™s

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Yeah, I think itโ€™s

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the same kinda group

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Yeah.

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the same like middle school

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boys

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Yeah.

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like the kid who edited

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is the kid whoโ€™s always on โ€˜em, too.

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Yeah yeah

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yeah yeah.

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Like heโ€™s a

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heโ€™s very camera hungry

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Yeah yeah.

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And thatโ€™s ok

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everyoneโ€™s gonna go through waves

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this kid doesnโ€™t

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heโ€™s a 6th grade-7th grade boy

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heโ€™s not insecure about anything

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That's awesome

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But like one day he will be

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He probably wonโ€™t be that kid

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for his entire youth ministry career

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Right?

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And so like, you just

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thatโ€™s the nice part is you can offer that

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and if you got kids

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The other fun thing weโ€™ve started to do

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Beyond just

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being on camera

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is like helping run the camera

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And so like maybe they donโ€™t wanna be on the camera

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but maybe they can be like behind the scenes

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or edit

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Yeah.

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And that- students love

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getting a chance to do that

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And the more, I guess the older Iโ€™m getting

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the more Iโ€™m trying to figure out, like โ€œHow can I

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not just do student ministry

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for students,

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but how can I

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let students do student ministry for students?โ€

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That's good.

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So thatโ€™s one of the things weโ€™re trying to pursue

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But Nate, tell me what

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in your context has

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been the most fun, or most effective thing?

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that youโ€™ve done

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just with regard to digital

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it doesnโ€™t have to be

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social media- anything, it can be anything

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any sort of thing in the digital space

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Well, I'll be honest.

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I've really recently

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kind of started a. And this.

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I don't even know

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if you consider this

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what you're looking at,

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but I started a Snapchat,

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group with our students,

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and I go, hey, invite.

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And that's a it's

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me social media

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invite

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anyone that is

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that is not that

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I don't have access to

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into this group chat.

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And people are just adding

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people as we go.

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And as soon as I add

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someone else

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and they have friends

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that are from CSM, I'm them.

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And it's like

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the group is grown,

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but the more people

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that are in there,

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the more it gets blown up.

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It's been fun to

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just kind of see it

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expand slowly

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throughout

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the last couple weeks.

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That's

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something that

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I'm excited about

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because it's like it's

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a different way of connecting.

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We have GroupMe

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and we connect through

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GroupMe mainly,

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but I think Snapchat

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should have a funner,

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like fun, fun way to like

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send funny pictures

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and whatever.

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Like you can best group

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like this

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kid was blown it up

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with with like

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filters of people's faces

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being all distorted and stuff.

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And just as he's being goofy

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and I don't know

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if that answers your question

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the way you wanted me to,

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but it's just, you know.

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Yeah, no, itโ€™s great!

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I mean itโ€™s

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thatโ€™s the thing, like

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every church is different, right?

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So Iโ€™m not going into this with any sorta

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like agenda

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Iโ€™m just tryina get

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to know what real youth pastors

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and real churches are doing

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like to connect with students

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and thatโ€™s a great example, because

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youth ministry 15 years ago

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like you donโ€™t have that

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opportunity

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whether

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Cuz like our church

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doesnโ€™t let us use Snapchat

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Oh, really?

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Whether itโ€™s Snapchat

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or whether itโ€™s GroupMe

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or whether itโ€™s a Group Message

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or whether itโ€™s an Instagram DM Group

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The concept

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is a group message

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Yeah.

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You and I, if we were youth pastors

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fifteen years ago

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we donโ€™t have that opportunity

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Yeah.

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That doesnโ€™t exist

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And so, thatโ€™s why I say

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itโ€™s so important for youth pastors to just

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figure something out, because

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look at that opportunity

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like you have a chance to

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message your students

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on like a Tuesday morning

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Yeah.

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like otherwise you would have

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had to wait for them to

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Yeah.

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come to you

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to be a captive audience

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Yeah.

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But now we have the ability to

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And thereโ€™s like

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thereโ€™s checks and balances within that

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and thereโ€™s times where that can get abused

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but at the end of the day, like

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The opportunity that we have is fantastic

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Yeah.

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So, itโ€™s

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Important I think to lean into that

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We should ask our dad

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how he did that

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when he was a youth pastor.

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You know, just to see for him.

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Fifteen years ago?

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What?

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Because he was doing it. What?

00:22:00:05 - 00:22:01:05
It was like not many.

00:22:01:05 - 00:22:02:05
There wasn't cell phones,

00:22:02:05 - 00:22:02:12
you know.

00:22:02:12 - 00:22:03:08
So how do you.

00:22:03:08 - 00:22:04:16
Well yeah, you just didnโ€™t

00:22:04:16 - 00:22:05:16
do a group chat

00:22:05:16 - 00:22:06:03
Yeah.

00:22:06:03 - 00:22:08:00
It was all about the in-person

00:22:08:00 - 00:22:08:12
It was.

00:22:08:12 - 00:22:09:01
Yeah.

00:22:09:01 - 00:22:11:08
And thatโ€™s the struggle

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Right? Like the struggle now

00:22:13:14 - 00:22:14:22
sometimes when

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you introduce an idea of digital

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there may be an older

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generation or demographic

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that remembers it done a different way

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And no shade on that or them

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but the fact is we just

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live in a different day

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And so

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and whatever

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And so however they were doing things before

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teenagers have zero concept of that today

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They are digital natives

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and digital dependents

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And so to

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not have something

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Right? And thatโ€™s the thing when I hear arguments

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from youth pastors who say:

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โ€œWell, I donโ€™t use socialโ€

00:22:50:20 - 00:22:52:08
โ€œWell do you have a group chat?โ€

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โ€œWell yeah we have a group chat!โ€

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โ€œWell, youโ€™re doing something!โ€

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Youโ€™re not doing nothing

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And so thereโ€™s

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Thatโ€™s the thing I love, I love that

00:23:00:08 - 00:23:02:17
the sky is legitimately the limit

00:23:02:17 - 00:23:05:06
Wherever your creativity will lead you

00:23:05:06 - 00:23:06:06
in todayโ€™s day-in-age

00:23:06:06 - 00:23:07:19
you can do

00:23:07:19 - 00:23:08:17
you can do anything

00:23:08:17 - 00:23:10:12
Right? And it can be

00:23:10:12 - 00:23:12:19
as robust of a strategy as you want

00:23:12:19 - 00:23:13:24
or it can be as like

00:23:13:24 - 00:23:16:14
paired down and focused on your kids

00:23:16:14 - 00:23:18:21
Both are great, I think

00:23:18:21 - 00:23:19:17
Yeah.

00:23:19:17 - 00:23:21:14
So last thing, Nate

00:23:21:14 - 00:23:23:03
How do you

00:23:23:03 - 00:23:24:15
know somethingโ€™s working?

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Like when you post something

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Or- how do you know when like

00:23:29:07 - 00:23:31:11
that was good. That was a win?

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What are some of the things that

00:23:33:13 - 00:23:34:24
you look for, whether it be

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like metrics, like number type things

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Or even just like

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the word on the street

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or the scuttlebutt that you might hear like

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in the hallways of church

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I think I see

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people share things.

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Even if it's not a lot of shares.

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Like, there's, like, adult,

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like adults that are in our

00:23:50:08 - 00:23:50:22
our ministry

00:23:50:22 - 00:23:52:01
that kind of see this stuff,

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and they'll share it.

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Or student

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and multiple students like it.

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We have a good amount of like

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we have a good

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amount of views.

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If there's a good

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amount of views,

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it means that it's

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kind of catching on.

00:24:00:13 - 00:24:00:24
Honestly,

00:24:00:24 - 00:24:02:09
I do a lot more reels,

00:24:02:09 - 00:24:03:15
even for like picture

00:24:03:15 - 00:24:05:04
on new picture reels.

00:24:05:04 - 00:24:06:14
And they they're,

00:24:06:14 - 00:24:07:03
they're ones

00:24:07:03 - 00:24:07:17
that kind of

00:24:07:17 - 00:24:08:11
just to kind of show

00:24:08:11 - 00:24:08:17
like what

00:24:08:17 - 00:24:09:02
we've done

00:24:09:02 - 00:24:10:08
in the night of CSM.

00:24:10:08 - 00:24:11:00
I like to do like

00:24:11:00 - 00:24:12:03
recap videos of

00:24:12:03 - 00:24:13:07
like what we did

00:24:13:07 - 00:24:14:06
that last night

00:24:14:06 - 00:24:16:01
at CSM or today or whatever,

00:24:16:01 - 00:24:17:10
just kind of show people

00:24:17:10 - 00:24:19:02
kind of quickly and pictures

00:24:19:02 - 00:24:20:10
of what we've been up to you.

00:24:20:10 - 00:24:21:19
And I think I don't

00:24:21:19 - 00:24:22:21
I think our adults

00:24:22:21 - 00:24:23:21
like parents and,

00:24:23:21 - 00:24:25:01
and the adults in the church

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want to see what's going on

00:24:26:03 - 00:24:27:05
with the students.

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And when the adults

00:24:27:23 - 00:24:28:17
are encouraged

00:24:28:17 - 00:24:30:00
and and feel

00:24:30:00 - 00:24:31:20
uplifted by students,

00:24:31:20 - 00:24:33:20
inspire inspiring others

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to come and and lead

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and leading their friends

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to Christ and

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and getting on stage on Sunday

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morning

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and leading worship and

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and when they get on

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stage on Sunday morning

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and and share

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the announcements

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in front of the whole church.

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that's just

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I think

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they're inspired by that

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and all that.

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You know, I,

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I, I capture that stuff and,

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and then I go on

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and share it

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with their friends.

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Hey, this is something that

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that happened in our church.

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Our students are doing things.

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So it's all related

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in the social media

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because you captured

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the images and then

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and then you,

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share it on

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like your platforms

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to kind of show

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the world and people

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that God's up

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to something

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at Calvary Student

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Ministries and, and just,

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yeah, that's mainly it,

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I think, is

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just seeing people inspire

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by what's going on. You know.

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Well and think about it

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if you didnโ€™t have some sort of creative outlet

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to share stuff like that

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like how would people know?

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cuz if theyโ€™re not

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They would have no idea.

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If theyโ€™re not in the room

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they donโ€™t know

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Exactly.

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Thereโ€™s another

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You just stepped in another benefit

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Right, like?

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People, adults, parents

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Pastors, elders

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who are not coming to youth group

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on Wednesday nights or Sunday nights

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Especially not frequently

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You can help them

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Ya know, thatโ€™s a win for you

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Maybe as a youth pastor too

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Just putting some of that stuff out there

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Yeah.

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Like Nate said

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โ€œItโ€™s not as hard as you think it might be.โ€

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Yeah.

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So last word

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last final bit of encouragement

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What would you say to someone who

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is on the fence

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Whoโ€™s

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maybe like you a year and a half ago, is like

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โ€œIโ€™m not sure about all this stuff.โ€

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Whatโ€™s one thing

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That you would say like, โ€œHey, do thisโ€

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Just. Just do this one thing

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This week?

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Yeah, that's a tough question.

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I would say like.

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Like kind of

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like what you said.

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Give it a shot

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and see if it see

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what happens.

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I mean,

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you're not going to get.

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And don't be discouraged

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if you don't get

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a hundred followers

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in the first,

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you know,

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couple days

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or weeks or months even, like,

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it takes some time

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sometimes and sometimes slowly

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growing thing.

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But,

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I say give it a shot

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and just

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try it out for a little bit.

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And like I said, please

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do not be afraid of the time.

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Just like engaging it with it.

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It's not as bad as you think.

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And honestly, like,

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I feel like youth

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pastors are really called

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to this generation

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of reaching people

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through social media.

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That's just where we're at

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and in society

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where we need to be

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on social media in some way.

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And I don't even think

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that Facebook's really

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that platform for students.

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It's more for adults

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at this at,

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you know, Facebook's

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more of an adult thing.

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And so just find that avenue

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that you can,

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get started

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with and connect them

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together, connect your

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link, your,

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you know, your

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platforms together

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so it's easier for you

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to post multiple things.

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You got this.

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The church needs you.

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You know.

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Yeah

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Love it

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Love it, well hey

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thanks for being on this morning

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Thanks for getting up early

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Yeah.

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I mean, I.

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And uh- and yeah

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Love you, brother.

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Hey, we'll stay in touch.

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You too!

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Hey! Stay Hybrid!

]]> Episode 108: David Carpenter on Social Media for Youth Ministry https://www.hybridministry.xyz/108 eed653e6-4c3c-44bf-9b5a-180dff37f023 Thu, 01 Aug 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 108 David Carpenter on Social Media for Youth Ministry full Nick Clason Church Youth Pastor, David Carpenter, shares how he teaches the Bible to his teenagers and lays out his complete digital process. The amazing thing about David's strategy is that it not only looks great online, but it's incredibly cost effective. David is a digital discipleship genius, listen in! 33:49 no ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ’ฅ[CUSTOM] Hybrid Coaching๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ====================================== DESCRIPTION Church Youth Pastor, David Carpenter, shares how he teaches the Bible to his teenagers and lays out his complete digital process. 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Hey, I got another interview style episode for you today. This time it is with David Carpenter. He's a youth pastor in Kentucky, and I came across David through social media, I think, in like a youth pastor, only or doing type style Facebook group. He was talking and answering a question about social media. And so his answer intrigued me. 00:00:25:04 - 00:00:45:21 David Carpenter I clicked on his profile and I saw that David is very much leaning into a digital and hybrid ministry experience in his church and in his ministry. So I reached out and I scheduled an interview. And so, without any further ado, I have the exclusive David Carpenter interview for you to check out here on the Hybrid Ministry episode. 00:00:45:21 - 00:01:08:00 David Carpenter If you find this helpful in any way, I would love it if you would subscribe, like, and share it with a friend, but without any further ado, check this interview out between myself and David Carpenter. I'm here with David. David, what is up, man? How are you doing this morning? 00:01:08:00 - 00:01:26:11 David Carpenter I'm doing great. I am recovering. We're in the middle of a VBS week right now as we're recording this. So some of I'm sure if some of you all know how that goes and, we're, you know, kind of making it through, but it's it's a good time and it's a good week. So now we're doing it. VBS at night, church or VBS in the morning. Church. Yeah, we're VBS at night. okay. And I'm, I'm crazy youth pastor David. 00:01:26:11 - 00:01:38:16 David Carpenter So I, you know, get stuck up on the stage and then do crazy dances and jump around and, and the like. So that's kind of the kind of the rhythm, at least once a week in the summer, that, that we're in. But yeah, it's a good time. 00:01:38:11 - 00:01:45:16 Nick Clason Yeah. We've all been there. We've all been. Yeah, we've all been there, just, you know, part as part of the gigs. How goes. So, Well, that's awesome. I'm excited that you guys are having a good week. I hope that you're getting, at least some sleep. And I hope that your coffee this morning is strong so that you can recover. Well, it is VBS know, but I, I came across David, I think, in like a DYM or youth pastor's only or something like that Facebook group. and someone had asked some sort of question about social media or something, and, you replied, I have no idea what you said, but I started creeping on you and your profile, and I just saw a lot of different, like, videos and like shorts and reels and stuff like that. and it was more than I was used to for, I guess I would say like the average or like or standard youth ministry, social media that I saw. And so because of that caught my attention. and so I followed you and or became friends with you or something on Facebook. reached out to you and, and chatted a little bit. But I'm excited to have you on here today, because I'd love to know, you know, what is like your as it stands today, in your student ministry at your church. Like what is your current sort of like social media or digital presence? What does it what does it look like? What do you what do you aim in for? And how's all that going? 00:02:51:04 - 00:03:16:19 David Carpenter Yeah. well, I appreciate you asking and obviously honored to to be here. And we connected on, on that, question. And, you know, I started doing social media stuff when I was probably shoot 14 or 15. 00:03:16:21 - 00:03:46:04 David Carpenter my dad was a pastor. And obviously, I'm sure lots of pastors kids out there know you get roped into doing things. And he was kind of an early innovator and had started doing a weekly YouTube show for our church. This was probably back in 2012, 2013, and I wanted to increase the views on it. So I created a Facebook page for it and kind of started to put together a logo for it and, and try to find ways to increase its, viewership and things like that. 00:03:46:04 - 00:04:15:09 David Carpenter And kind of got my feet wet doing, you know, video editing and social media stuff at that point. But, instead of ministry, you know, we are looking at social media as an opportunity to disciple our students, but also as a, an outward opportunity to disciple, you know, literally people across the world, and, you know, practically that looks like a couple different things. 00:04:15:11 - 00:05:00:16 David Carpenter platforms we use, we use, YouTube. We put our regular, weekly ministry teachings on podcast form. we use TikTok and we use Instagram, which is connected to a Facebook account. Our students don't engage there much, but, we, we share some of that stuff because I think it helps to keep parents connected, but, kind of a shift in the mindset going into it for us is, is that opportunity for discipleship that, you know, we are producing teachings and content that, man, it it's kind of already done and we have the opportunity to capture it and record it and then redisplay it, to potentially an audience that 00:05:00:16 - 00:05:21:21 David Carpenter was missing on a Wednesday night or an audience that may, may never be able to come to our church. and so, you know, kind of, for you, probably about a year ago, we, we started thinking about ways for our church and our student ministry to really maximize, digital, you know, opportunities to reach people and, and disciple people. 00:05:21:23 - 00:05:41:03 David Carpenter And over the last year, we've been kind of rolling that out and stepping into that over time. because we want to make sure that we can do it in sustainable and continuous ways. But, yeah, it's it's really just it's it's an opportunity for discipleship and for us to tell the story of our church, for us to tell the story of our state of ministry. 00:05:41:05 - 00:06:06:18 David Carpenter people love stories. And, when, when we have the opportunity to share the stories of what Jesus is doing in the lives of our students or, or just even ways that our students are connecting and and enjoying their teenage years in a healthy Christian community. we feel like that's a win. 00:06:06:18 - 00:06:32:09 Nick Clason So, yeah, no doubt, the most recent episodes, that I had, I had are like, year long resident on here. And it was interesting because he mentioned the value that like, our social media sort of like presents and, and just philosophy and strategy, the value that it brought to like our attendance and our students are actually like in the room. Right. Because a lot of times, a lot of times I think it's like, we view it as like a replacement for the kids that were not at church or, for the kids that aren't even there yet. 00:06:32:09 - 00:06:57:17 Nick Clason But he was like, no, it I thought it enhanced like the experience for the kids are already there, which was like an interesting like I'd seen it too, but I hadn't like, I hadn't come to that sort of like conclusion, like he had. So I because I do think the argument a lot of times that I feel like either we face as youth pastors or even just like me with this podcast, it's just that there's not enough time, and we need to focus on the kids that we have. 00:06:57:19 - 00:07:16:08 Nick Clason And so to hear you say like, this is not this is an opportunity. This is a way for us to lean in with the kids that we have like that I agree with I would agree with that. And so get like get specific here, like help, help us out, help people out. Like what exactly do you do? Like what camera do you use? 00:07:16:08 - 00:07:38:00 Nick Clason What like software are you using to edit. Like what's your because you're a real youth pastor with a real job, with real responsibilities, with real messages to write and programs to create, like, how are you, involving digital media into that? And like, what's your workflow with all that? Because it feels like it would probably be a steep learning curve or just a lot of extra work. And maybe it is, but like, what are you doing? What's helping you out? What's what are some shortcuts? Maybe that might be out there. 00:07:38:00 - 00:07:55:02 David CarpenterYeah. Well, first, I think what you said is completely true, that it's it is an outward facing thing, but also one, I think sometimes where we as preachers assume that people come and listen to us. 00:07:55:03 - 00:08:27:07 David Carpenter I speak to our students on Wednesday nights for about 18 to 22 minutes. Sunday morning there's a, you know, 28 to 32 minutes. And we think they probably remember everything we said, right. Like they they wrote the notes. They've got it in. They've already applied every one of these points. You know, it was all iterated. And I remember my great illustration and one, you know, when, when we're including things that are reflecting on the teachings, I think that reinforces and reminds those who were in the room and also, things like we did a post on our social that did really well a few months ago of, yeah, a picture of a student taking notes, 00:08:27:09 - 00:08:44:03 David Carpenter and the post was all overlaid on the photo of the student was the notes from Wednesday night, some of the notes that we'd given them, and then in the caption was information. What? Why do we encourage students to take notes? Why do we give out handouts and and give an opportunity to teach culture in in those moments? So it definitely is for the kids in the room too. 00:08:44:03 - 00:09:06:21 David Carpenter But yeah, practically speaking, we, from, September, August to May, we regularly gather for student nights. Our church takes the month of June off, and then we come back in July with some different programing on Monday nights. But for those student nights, we capture those, I capture those from our soundboard straight into GarageBand. It's nothing fancy. 00:09:06:21 - 00:09:27:24 David Carpenter I think if you listen to podcasts, you're probably smart enough to go get a it's a I think it was an $8 adapter that is a board out to a usb-C in. And I just record the audio of the speaking. and we do podcast for the reason of one number one demographic for podcast listeners is like 12 to 22. 00:09:28:01 - 00:09:43:13 David Carpenter I heard somewhere. And so our students and student aged people are listening to podcast. And also I use those as a resource for our parents always encourage our our parents to stay connected. If you listen to the podcast as a parent, hey, you can listen to what your student is learning and stay engaged and connected to our students in that way. 00:09:43:17 - 00:10:03:11 David Carpenter So we have audio in that way. And then we as a message is beginning. Our church is not a very big church. We're in a more rural area. We're about an hour, 45 minutes an hour south of Lexington, Kentucky. and so we have a canon in 100, which is not a super nice camera. it's an outdated model. 00:10:03:11 - 00:10:27:06 David Carpenter I think the 200 came out a couple of years ago. So this is a post post, you know, model camera. and we set it on a tripod high enough that it's pretty well over the students head, and we record those and, get a long form video of the message. and that goes on YouTube and that, that again, the primary purpose of that is for our parents to have a way to connect. 00:10:27:08 - 00:10:47:19 David Carpenter I don't have any visions of, of those, you know, going viral or making me famous. it's, you know, those are we're getting 2 to 6, eight views on those videos. but, you know, it's it's so that we have a digital record of it. And then, those get split into my goal is always two short form clips that go on TikTok and Instagram. 00:10:47:19 - 00:11:10:15 David Carpenter And if you can get them short enough YouTube shorts a week. as a way to reiterate, I reiterate, there's a word in there somewhere. I probably reiterate. There you go. That's the one. our teachings on Wednesday night, to connect back with those students and obviously to disciple people who, you know, they may be near to you, but are far from out or need encouragement in their faith. 00:11:10:17 - 00:11:32:20 David Carpenter so that's pretty practical. I use Premiere Pro. I've always used Adobe products. it's but the what we do, I mean, you I feel you could get a YouTube video, of your teachings. You could use a phone and a, digital recorded mic, like a, phone in usb-C mic, especially if you've got a light, you know, new model phone. 00:11:32:22 - 00:11:53:09 David Carpenter if you're not in a large space, this as your space gets larger, it's the lens being able to zoom in on the space that you're in. But it's not fancy technology. the church has invested $10 in an an adapter to record the audio, and now we just, we got better quality from the board straight into to a laptop. 00:11:53:10 - 00:12:16:05 David Carpenter So, I mean, so that's that's kind of the we build out from there because, we can stay consistent with that, especially through the school year. the other things we're doing is, we show up with a camera to everything we do. I use a canon, I'm sitting here looking at it. I think it's a. Let me look, let me tell you, for I like to. 00:12:16:07 - 00:12:36:00 David Carpenter It's a 70 day. I couldn't reference a 7080 or an 80, but with a 70 to 200 lens. I'm not a photographer. about two and a half years ago, I started taking pictures. And I've gotten better over time. You can put that thing in auto, and if you take enough pictures, you can get a couple good ones. 00:12:36:04 - 00:12:52:17 David Carpenter Some. Some will look good, right? Yes. Exactly right. If you can get a couple good ones in focus, and we have leaders now that, you know, of course, like when I'm, when I'm speaking or on stage playing a game or something, I can't get those pictures. I tell them, hey, just this is how you focus it and do your best. 00:12:52:17 - 00:13:11:01 David Carpenter And they always, you know, I've got multiple leaders who can come out with a couple good pictures. Those are great to have for your YouTube thumbnails and Instagram Reels covers. And then also just having a photo library, is helpful for for to stay consistent. That's one of the most important things I feel like with social and success in is consistency. 00:13:11:01 - 00:13:34:23 David Carpenter And I think for people like us who work, you know, a full time job as a student, pastor, youth pastor, that's probably the greatest challenge. So building rhythms into your regular weekly life to prioritize social is important. And I think that's kind of what you are in doing what you're doing, trying to encourage people towards. And something I would definitely Amen. 00:13:34:23 - 00:14:00:06 David Carpenter Yes and amen with what you're doing to say, hey, we are busy, but the five ten hours a week that it takes to, you know, record and and put a message on YouTube, cut it up into some clips, maybe find another way to to post on social once another week, once. Once a week. Twice. Like it's worth it because you are connecting to your kids where they already are. 00:14:00:06 - 00:14:20:17 David Carpenter And it's an incredible mission field. It's an incredible opportunity. And, and I think it it's one of those things where sometimes we think, well, if I had time, I would, but it's like, no, this is something we need to make time for. Digital discipleship, should should be a priority, especially, for people reaching, you know, Gen Z and Gen Alpha. 00:14:20:19 - 00:14:40:05 Nick Clason Yeah. Dude. I mean, I couldn't agree with you more. You said, like, so many things in there that, like, I like I feel like I've been saying, you know, so, like, the first thing of which is, like, you spent $10 to get better audio. And so because one of my arguments that I feel like a lot of youth pastors have is like, we're not the main room, we're not the main auditorium. 00:14:40:05 - 00:14:56:02 Nick Clason So we don't have like the live stream gear. We don't have all that type of stuff. And like, you know, you just made the case, like, you don't have to have all that. Like, you can just put a camera up in the back of the room, like one of the strategies that we recommend, here on this podcast is like just sitting down like pre filming your messages. 00:14:56:02 - 00:15:25:05 Nick Clason But if you don't even have the time to do that, like you can do it, David did. And just put a camera in the back of the room, capture your audio. And that's even one less like step of extra work, you know, and like you were saying, and it's interesting when you talk about like, having a digital library, like, that's a fantastic resource for down the road, because you might be counseling a kid, or kid might come to you with a particular issue and you're like, I've actually like studied that in Scripture. 00:15:25:05 - 00:15:45:09 Nick Clason And like, I have that information and I've packaged it in like a sermon. It just was like two months ago. But like you have the YouTube link, let me send that to you. Because maybe they weren't there, maybe they weren't coming to your church yet, or maybe they whatever the reason, right, that were to your point, they just don't remember it because our teachings aren't as valuable as we hope and think that they they would be. 00:15:45:09 - 00:16:09:17 Nick Clason And there's so there's really is so much like I agree, so much value in creating like a digital, a digital library far beyond what we can possibly think or imagine. I think. And you, if you start now, that begins to build and compound on itself, you know. So if let's say you're hearing this in the middle of this summer and this year, you're like, I'm going to start capturing my messages and posting them on YouTube. 00:16:09:19 - 00:16:27:19 Nick Clason By the end of the school year, you have a full year library worth of content. So like David said, just you gotta find the time like it's it's we it's no longer an option anymore. I don't think I think you can keep doing it and you probably won't get fired, right. You can keep living life in your very like analog youth pastor way. 00:16:27:23 - 00:16:50:05 Nick Clason And with all the irons in the fire like that is a way to keep doing the job. But I think we yeah, as youth pastors, can be more effective if we choose to invest in, engage and lean into what this digital space has to offer. For sure. David. What? if anything, is there anything that you're like, I would love it if we could get to this spot. 00:16:50:07 - 00:17:10:15 Nick Clason Like, these are some of your, like, goals or dreams for your digital stuff, but your youth pastor and you haven't, you know, but legs all the way under it yet or, you know, it's it's a down the road sort of project that you'd like to see. Certainly. you know, obviously you want to continue to work to upgrade the quality of the, the content you're putting out. 00:17:10:17 - 00:17:35:00 David Carpenter I would love to, lean into, more conversation, type content for YouTube and podcasts and even, you know, using those on social. We did a series, in the month of February. we call it All My Friends. And we sat and took three weeks. I interviewed, a couple different people, two of them. One week it was two of our students, two of our graduating seniors. 00:17:35:00 - 00:18:09:22 David Carpenter And those videos are our best videos on YouTube. bar none, you know, and did so well. And and it's, you know, it's telling those stories. Yeah. I think people really like that. So content like that and, and more, student driven content, I think is the place we're going. And for your busy youth pastor, man, lean into, you know, your students, your students, our content creators, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are born into a world where they are all create content. 00:18:09:24 - 00:18:31:24 David Carpenter I mean, go watch a seven year old kid. I go to the gym and my the my gym owner, his daughter, I think she's 7 or 8 and she walks around the gym with a digital camera and makes pictures and videos and, and edits and stories of, you know, her and all her, you know, people at the gym. 00:18:32:01 - 00:18:55:17 David Carpenter They are all doing it. Yeah. Ask them, lean into them. And that's kind of a space that I would want to grow in. Is is including and and using our students, in that ministry, as, as a way to include them in the discipleship process online and also to, to tell their stories. 00:18:55:17 - 00:19:16:17 Nick Clason And that's so good. And, you know, you use Premiere Pro, I use Premiere Pro. So, like, you might hear a couple of guys on this podcast be like, man, it's like, I don't know that I'll have access to it. Like everything now is so accessible. Like I did a whole week's worth of daily recap videos off of my cell phone with cap cut a year ago. And like Canva, you know you can use Canva Pro and do tons of stuff on there. 00:19:16:17 - 00:19:34:24 Nick Clason And because you're nonprofit, if you're church, it's free. You know, Canva, Canva for, nonprofits is completely free, but they'll give you like the pro, the pro version of it. And so like, you don't have to have all of these, like, higher level skills that you used to have to have, like the barrier to entry into this stuff is is so much lower. 00:19:34:24 - 00:19:53:11 Nick Clason And you're so right. Like, our students absolutely eat this stuff up and probably want us to just get out of the way and let them do it anyway. So we should just we figure that out. All we gotta do is put a little infrastructure around it. Form. 00:19:53:11 - 00:20:18:13 David Carpenter Yeah. I mean, what better thing could we do than like, really as student pastors? What what better, greater opportunity we have then to empower students to step into ministry and to see their life as ministry? They're on social. They they're just like, we we want to encourage them to see their high school basketball team as a ministry. So we would we should do encourage them to see their digital life as a ministry. Right. It's it's not that we put it in a compartment but that all of that we all of the things we do, our ministry and opportunities to share Jesus and and what better thing could we do than to teach our students that and to include them in that, that 00:20:18:15 - 00:20:55:23 Nick Clason you're you're so right on that. Well, David, any other sort of like thoughts or words of encouragement that you would have, like, you have opportunity here to like, talk to some other youth pastors, people in church ministry like, you know, what what would you as you look out across the landscape of youth ministry and probably, if you're like me, the lack of digital integration that is existing like what? What would be your like final words or just, you know, final encouragement pieces to to other youth pastors? 00:20:55:23 - 00:21:20:05 David Carpenter Yeah. You know, I was, I'm a great resource for, for anybody listening. of course, you know, these resources here. I looked at your Linktree the other day, and, I mean, gosh, some incredible resources you've got for for student pastors on there, for a digital resource. 00:21:20:05 - 00:21:45:20 David Carpenter And also, I would encourage people to look into pro church tools. Brady here, I listened to his podcast every week. And and he is giving out, I mean, just free stuff. he did a, a poll on his Instagram, a couple months ago and asked, you know, these are church creatives. These are people like you and me who value church using digital, you know, marketing and digital opportunities to reach people. 00:21:45:20 - 00:22:18:05 David Carpenter Jesus. And he asked those churches how many of them their church has a TikTok page. And of those people, 10% said yes. and I you know, you mentioned that group on Facebook of youth pastors only. and I think every time I see someone and it may have been even in that post that we connected on ask about TikTok, I see so many comments of, well, TikTok is just, you know, naked people or dancing people or, or or music that we wouldn't want our students to listen to or whatever. 00:22:18:07 - 00:22:56:23 David Carpenter And, you know, my courage would be, don't be afraid to step into new things. as in terms of digital, you know, digital outreach, as a student pastor, as a student ministry. you know, when I came to, to this church, our, our ministry was very young, lots of middle schoolers, fewer high schoolers. And with that, fewer of our students had social media, like, a lot of our consistent students weren't on Instagram, they weren't on TikTok. 00:22:57:00 - 00:23:25:12 David Carpenter And I think sometimes we could think, well, our students aren't even there. Why would I even invest into that? The one there's students in your community who are there, and two, you know, we're we're not affirming everything on something by putting our presence there. There's bad stuff everywhere. You know, our kids grow up and go to college. 00:23:25:14 - 00:23:42:08 David Carpenter And guess what? I tell our kids all the time, hey, when you go to college, if you want to get into something, you can find it there, right? Your parents can only protect you for so long. And that's true in a lot of digital spaces. If you want to find, sinful things in on the internet, it's not really hard to do. 00:23:42:09 - 00:24:03:22 David Carpenter All right? We're all mature and old enough to know that that's true. So our choice is either to be afraid and hide and say, well, if I'm not there, I'm not encouraging anybody to go there. Or we can say, hey, there's lost people there. There's people that are far from God there. And I mean, shoot, the way that TikTok's algorithm prioritizes locality. 00:24:03:24 - 00:24:27:24 David Carpenter There are people in your community, students in your community who are there. And even if you would not encourage your students to go create an account, there, you can still go reach people there. And we have the greatest message that's ever been told. And we have the greatest means to take that message to the whole world. Why would we be afraid? 00:24:28:01 - 00:24:49:00 David Carpenter And that would be my encouragement. Man is, hey, don't be afraid, try stuff. And guess what? I made a post. shoot. It was on our I was actually on our church page and it did did well on Instagram and did well on YouTube shorts and flopped on TikTok. I mean, like seven views, like horrible, awful. and guess what? 00:24:49:02 - 00:25:27:04 David Carpenter The sun still came up the next day and not everything's going to work. But don't be afraid. Step into digital spaces because there is an incredible opportunity to minister to students and reach students in those spaces. And so I would just encourage you, don't be afraid. Yes, we have discernment from the Holy Spirit. Yes, there is wisdom. And no, we don't have to say yes to everything, but be wise and be willing to step out and trust that God can take your, a message that that someone is listening is is teaching maybe to a room of of 15 students. 00:25:27:06 - 00:25:44:06 David Carpenter And there's something you could say in that, or a guest could say in that, or one of your students could encourage somebody with and millions of people could be encouraged with the love of Jesus. And I mean, what, what kind of incredible opportunity is that? And why would we not lean into that in any way we could? you're so right. 00:25:44:06 - 00:26:12:16 Nick Clason And, you know, TikTok was just the new one, but everyone else has figured out how to compete with them. Now. So Facebook, Instagram have reels and YouTube shorts. And so if you're like, well, my kids aren't on TikTok, well, if they're on Instagram, you can still make the exact same type of content. If they're on YouTube, you can like my I, I crack up because like my hours, I have parents who are like, my kids aren't on TikTok, but they're on YouTube more like they're on than they're watching the same same things, same stuff. 00:26:12:20 - 00:26:32:04 Nick Clason You haven't done anything. They're just on YouTube now. So, yeah. you know, it's it's all that's the thing. Like I work at what I say is one of the most conservative churches, and so we have just as much parents or whatever who might be a little freaked out by some of these things. And, but YouTube seems to be like the safe one. 00:26:32:08 - 00:26:50:05 Nick Clason You know, I'm like, well, on YouTube and, like, oh, yeah, that's fine. Like, because parents watch YouTube and you can watch it on your TV in your house because there's like an app for it on your all your smart TVs and stuff like that. And so like our executive pastor, his daughter, she's not social media but do watch all of our like YouTube stuff on their TV in their house. 00:26:50:05 - 00:27:11:09 Nick Clason Like even the silly stuff that we do. Even like the little shorts in the games and stuff that we do on there. And so it's like you said, it lean into it because if that's where our students are, I think there's a stat from Pew. Like 95% of teenagers say that they will use YouTube. So if that's where they are, like, you're right, why would we not be there to get there? 00:27:11:11 - 00:27:28:09 Nick Clason So get there. Well, man, I appreciate your time. David, where would be like, if people want to see all this stuff, I'll drop some of these things in the show notes. Like, how can they get Ahold of you? How can they, check out what you're doing on your churches and youth ministry, social media? let us know where where they can find you. 00:27:28:11 - 00:27:47:20 David Carpenter Yeah. Our, our church is, everywhere. It's it's Harrodsburg dot church. So our seed ministry is Harrodsburg dot students. That's YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. You should be able to get to there. my Facebook and Instagram, our David Lee Carpenter. There's a lot of David Carpenters out there, so I put my middle name in there. You should be able to find me. and if I can help or encourage anybody along the way, I would love to do that. I'm thankful for you to to let me. Come on. And I hope it helps somebody bless somebody today. 00:27:47:22 - 00:28:44:24 Nick Clason Absolutely. Hey, thanks for being on. Appreciate your time today. And we'll talk next time. 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00:00 Who is David Carpenter?
02:59 What is your current youth ministry social media?
07:16 What exactly do you do?
14:19 Digital Discipleship for Cheap
16:48 The Easiest Content for Youth Pastors to Create
20:34 Don't Be Afraid!

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00:00:01:02 - 00:00:25:04
Nick Clason
What's going on, everybody? Hey, I got another interview style episode for you today. This time it is with David Carpenter. He's a youth pastor in Kentucky, and I came across David through social media, I think, in like a youth pastor, only or doing type style Facebook group. He was talking and answering a question about social media. And so his answer intrigued me.

00:00:25:04 - 00:00:45:21
David Carpenter
I clicked on his profile and I saw that David is very much leaning into a digital and hybrid ministry experience in his church and in his ministry. So I reached out and I scheduled an interview. And so, without any further ado, I have the exclusive David Carpenter interview for you to check out here on the Hybrid Ministry episode.

00:00:45:21 - 00:01:08:00
David Carpenter
If you find this helpful in any way, I would love it if you would subscribe, like, and share it with a friend, but without any further ado, check this interview out between myself and David Carpenter. I'm here with David. David, what is up, man? How are you doing this morning?

00:01:08:00 - 00:01:26:11
David Carpenter
I'm doing great. I am recovering. We're in the middle of a VBS week right now as we're recording this.
So some of I'm sure if some of you all know how that goes and, we're, you know, kind of making it through, but it's it's a good time and it's a good week. So now we're doing it. VBS at night, church or VBS in the morning. Church. Yeah, we're VBS at night. okay. And I'm, I'm crazy youth pastor David.

00:01:26:11 - 00:01:38:16
David Carpenter
So I, you know, get stuck up on the stage and then do crazy dances and jump around and, and the like. So that's kind of the kind of the rhythm, at least once a week in the summer, that, that we're in. But yeah, it's a good time.

00:01:38:11 - 00:01:45:16
Nick Clason
Yeah. We've all been there. We've all been. Yeah, we've all been there, just, you know, part as part of the gigs.
How goes. So, Well, that's awesome. I'm excited that you guys are having a good week. I hope that you're getting, at least some sleep. And I hope that your coffee this morning is strong so that you can recover. Well, it is VBS know, but I, I came across David, I think, in like a DYM or youth pastor's only or something like that Facebook group.
and someone had asked some sort of question about social media or something, and, you replied, I have no idea what you said, but I started creeping on you and your profile, and I just saw a lot of different, like, videos and like shorts and reels and stuff like that. and it was more than I was used to for, I guess I would say like the average or like or standard youth ministry, social media that I saw.
And so because of that caught my attention. and so I followed you and or became friends with you or something on Facebook. reached out to you and, and chatted a little bit. But I'm excited to have you on here today, because I'd love to know, you know, what is like your as it stands today, in your student ministry at your church.
Like what is your current sort of like social media or digital presence? What does it what does it look like? What do you what do you aim in for? And how's all that going?

00:02:51:04 - 00:03:16:19
David Carpenter
Yeah. well, I appreciate you asking and obviously honored to to be here. And we connected on, on that, question. And, you know, I started doing social media stuff when I was probably shoot 14 or 15.

00:03:16:21 - 00:03:46:04
David Carpenter
my dad was a pastor. And obviously, I'm sure lots of pastors kids out there know you get roped into doing things. And he was kind of an early innovator and had started doing a weekly YouTube show for our church. This was probably back in 2012, 2013, and I wanted to increase the views on it. So I created a Facebook page for it and kind of started to put together a logo for it and, and try to find ways to increase its, viewership and things like that.

00:03:46:04 - 00:04:15:09
David Carpenter
And kind of got my feet wet doing, you know, video editing and social media stuff at that point. But, instead of ministry, you know, we are looking at social media as an opportunity to disciple our students, but also as a, an outward opportunity to disciple, you know, literally people across the world, and, you know, practically that looks like a couple different things.

00:04:15:11 - 00:05:00:16
David Carpenter
platforms we use, we use, YouTube. We put our regular, weekly ministry teachings on podcast form. we use TikTok and we use Instagram, which is connected to a Facebook account. Our students don't engage there much, but, we, we share some of that stuff because I think it helps to keep parents connected, but, kind of a shift in the mindset going into it for us is, is that opportunity for discipleship that, you know, we are producing teachings and content that, man, it it's kind of already done and we have the opportunity to capture it and record it and then redisplay it, to potentially an audience that

00:05:00:16 - 00:05:21:21
David Carpenter
was missing on a Wednesday night or an audience that may, may never be able to come to our church. and so, you know, kind of, for you, probably about a year ago, we, we started thinking about ways for our church and our student ministry to really maximize, digital, you know, opportunities to reach people and, and disciple people.

00:05:21:23 - 00:05:41:03
David Carpenter
And over the last year, we've been kind of rolling that out and stepping into that over time. because we want to make sure that we can do it in sustainable and continuous ways. But, yeah, it's it's really just it's it's an opportunity for discipleship and for us to tell the story of our church, for us to tell the story of our state of ministry.

00:05:41:05 - 00:06:06:18
David Carpenter
people love stories. And, when, when we have the opportunity to share the stories of what Jesus is doing in the lives of our students or, or just even ways that our students are connecting and and enjoying their teenage years in a healthy Christian community. we feel like that's a win.

00:06:06:18 - 00:06:32:09
Nick Clason
So, yeah, no doubt, the most recent episodes, that I had, I had are like, year long resident on here.
And it was interesting because he mentioned the value that like, our social media sort of like presents and, and just philosophy and strategy, the value that it brought to like our attendance and our students are actually like in the room. Right. Because a lot of times, a lot of times I think it's like, we view it as like a replacement for the kids that were not at church or, for the kids that aren't even there yet.

00:06:32:09 - 00:06:57:17
Nick Clason
But he was like, no, it I thought it enhanced like the experience for the kids are already there, which was like an interesting like I'd seen it too, but I hadn't like, I hadn't come to that sort of like conclusion, like he had. So I because I do think the argument a lot of times that I feel like either we face as youth pastors or even just like me with this podcast, it's just that there's not enough time, and we need to focus on the kids that we have.

00:06:57:19 - 00:07:16:08
Nick Clason
And so to hear you say like, this is not this is an opportunity. This is a way for us to lean in with the kids that we have like that I agree with I would agree with that. And so get like get specific here, like help, help us out, help people out. Like what exactly do you do? Like what camera do you use?

00:07:16:08 - 00:07:38:00
Nick Clason
What like software are you using to edit. Like what's your because you're a real youth pastor with a real job, with real responsibilities, with real messages to write and programs to create, like, how are you, involving digital media into that? And like, what's your workflow with all that? Because it feels like it would probably be a steep learning curve or just a lot of extra work.
And maybe it is, but like, what are you doing? What's helping you out? What's what are some shortcuts? Maybe that might be out there.

00:07:38:00 - 00:07:55:02
David CarpenterYeah. Well, first, I think what you said is completely true, that it's it is an outward facing thing, but also one, I think sometimes where we as preachers assume that people come and listen to us.

00:07:55:03 - 00:08:27:07
David Carpenter
I speak to our students on Wednesday nights for about 18 to 22 minutes. Sunday morning there's a, you know, 28 to 32 minutes. And we think they probably remember everything we said, right. Like they they wrote the notes. They've got it in. They've already applied every one of these points. You know, it was all iterated. And I remember my great illustration and one, you know, when, when we're including things that are reflecting on the teachings, I think that reinforces and reminds those who were in the room and also, things like we did a post on our social that did really well a few months ago of, yeah, a picture of a student taking notes,

00:08:27:09 - 00:08:44:03
David Carpenter
and the post was all overlaid on the photo of the student was the notes from Wednesday night, some of the notes that we'd given them, and then in the caption was information. What? Why do we encourage students to take notes? Why do we give out handouts and and give an opportunity to teach culture in in those moments? So it definitely is for the kids in the room too.

00:08:44:03 - 00:09:06:21
David Carpenter
But yeah, practically speaking, we, from, September, August to May, we regularly gather for student nights. Our church takes the month of June off, and then we come back in July with some different programing on Monday nights. But for those student nights, we capture those, I capture those from our soundboard straight into GarageBand. It's nothing fancy.

00:09:06:21 - 00:09:27:24
David Carpenter
I think if you listen to podcasts, you're probably smart enough to go get a it's a I think it was an $8 adapter that is a board out to a usb-C in. And I just record the audio of the speaking. and we do podcast for the reason of one number one demographic for podcast listeners is like 12 to 22.

00:09:28:01 - 00:09:43:13
David Carpenter
I heard somewhere. And so our students and student aged people are listening to podcast. And also I use those as a resource for our parents always encourage our our parents to stay connected. If you listen to the podcast as a parent, hey, you can listen to what your student is learning and stay engaged and connected to our students in that way.

00:09:43:17 - 00:10:03:11
David Carpenter
So we have audio in that way. And then we as a message is beginning. Our church is not a very big church. We're in a more rural area. We're about an hour, 45 minutes an hour south of Lexington, Kentucky. and so we have a canon in 100, which is not a super nice camera. it's an outdated model.

00:10:03:11 - 00:10:27:06
David Carpenter
I think the 200 came out a couple of years ago. So this is a post post, you know, model camera. and we set it on a tripod high enough that it's pretty well over the students head, and we record those and, get a long form video of the message. and that goes on YouTube and that, that again, the primary purpose of that is for our parents to have a way to connect.

00:10:27:08 - 00:10:47:19
David Carpenter
I don't have any visions of, of those, you know, going viral or making me famous. it's, you know, those are we're getting 2 to 6, eight views on those videos. but, you know, it's it's so that we have a digital record of it. And then, those get split into my goal is always two short form clips that go on TikTok and Instagram.

00:10:47:19 - 00:11:10:15
David Carpenter
And if you can get them short enough YouTube shorts a week. as a way to reiterate, I reiterate, there's a word in there somewhere. I probably reiterate. There you go. That's the one. our teachings on Wednesday night, to connect back with those students and obviously to disciple people who, you know, they may be near to you, but are far from out or need encouragement in their faith.

00:11:10:17 - 00:11:32:20
David Carpenter
so that's pretty practical. I use Premiere Pro. I've always used Adobe products. it's but the what we do, I mean, you I feel you could get a YouTube video, of your teachings. You could use a phone and a, digital recorded mic, like a, phone in usb-C mic, especially if you've got a light, you know, new model phone.

00:11:32:22 - 00:11:53:09
David Carpenter
if you're not in a large space, this as your space gets larger, it's the lens being able to zoom in on the space that you're in. But it's not fancy technology. the church has invested $10 in an an adapter to record the audio, and now we just, we got better quality from the board straight into to a laptop.

00:11:53:10 - 00:12:16:05
David Carpenter
So, I mean, so that's that's kind of the we build out from there because, we can stay consistent with that, especially through the school year. the other things we're doing is, we show up with a camera to everything we do. I use a canon, I'm sitting here looking at it. I think it's a. Let me look, let me tell you, for I like to.

00:12:16:07 - 00:12:36:00
David Carpenter
It's a 70 day. I couldn't reference a 7080 or an 80, but with a 70 to 200 lens. I'm not a photographer. about two and a half years ago, I started taking pictures. And I've gotten better over time. You can put that thing in auto, and if you take enough pictures, you can get a couple good ones.

00:12:36:04 - 00:12:52:17
David Carpenter
Some. Some will look good, right? Yes. Exactly right. If you can get a couple good ones in focus, and we have leaders now that, you know, of course, like when I'm, when I'm speaking or on stage playing a game or something, I can't get those pictures. I tell them, hey, just this is how you focus it and do your best.

00:12:52:17 - 00:13:11:01
David Carpenter
And they always, you know, I've got multiple leaders who can come out with a couple good pictures. Those are great to have for your YouTube thumbnails and Instagram Reels covers. And then also just having a photo library, is helpful for for to stay consistent. That's one of the most important things I feel like with social and success in is consistency.

00:13:11:01 - 00:13:34:23
David Carpenter
And I think for people like us who work, you know, a full time job as a student, pastor, youth pastor, that's probably the greatest challenge. So building rhythms into your regular weekly life to prioritize social is important. And I think that's kind of what you are in doing what you're doing, trying to encourage people towards. And something I would definitely Amen.

00:13:34:23 - 00:14:00:06
David Carpenter
Yes and amen with what you're doing to say, hey, we are busy, but the five ten hours a week that it takes to, you know, record and and put a message on YouTube, cut it up into some clips, maybe find another way to to post on social once another week, once. Once a week. Twice. Like it's worth it because you are connecting to your kids where they already are.

00:14:00:06 - 00:14:20:17
David Carpenter
And it's an incredible mission field. It's an incredible opportunity. And, and I think it it's one of those things where sometimes we think, well, if I had time, I would, but it's like, no, this is something we need to make time for. Digital discipleship, should should be a priority, especially, for people reaching, you know, Gen Z and Gen Alpha.

00:14:20:19 - 00:14:40:05
Nick Clason
Yeah. Dude. I mean, I couldn't agree with you more. You said, like, so many things in there that, like, I like I feel like I've been saying, you know, so, like, the first thing of which is, like, you spent $10 to get better audio. And so because one of my arguments that I feel like a lot of youth pastors have is like, we're not the main room, we're not the main auditorium.

00:14:40:05 - 00:14:56:02
Nick Clason
So we don't have like the live stream gear. We don't have all that type of stuff. And like, you know, you just made the case, like, you don't have to have all that. Like, you can just put a camera up in the back of the room, like one of the strategies that we recommend, here on this podcast is like just sitting down like pre filming your messages.

00:14:56:02 - 00:15:25:05
Nick Clason
But if you don't even have the time to do that, like you can do it, David did. And just put a camera in the back of the room, capture your audio. And that's even one less like step of extra work, you know, and like you were saying, and it's interesting when you talk about like, having a digital library, like, that's a fantastic resource for down the road, because you might be counseling a kid, or kid might come to you with a particular issue and you're like, I've actually like studied that in Scripture.

00:15:25:05 - 00:15:45:09
Nick Clason
And like, I have that information and I've packaged it in like a sermon. It just was like two months ago. But like you have the YouTube link, let me send that to you. Because maybe they weren't there, maybe they weren't coming to your church yet, or maybe they whatever the reason, right, that were to your point, they just don't remember it because our teachings aren't as valuable as we hope and think that they they would be.

00:15:45:09 - 00:16:09:17
Nick Clason
And there's so there's really is so much like I agree, so much value in creating like a digital, a digital library far beyond what we can possibly think or imagine. I think. And you, if you start now, that begins to build and compound on itself, you know. So if let's say you're hearing this in the middle of this summer and this year, you're like, I'm going to start capturing my messages and posting them on YouTube.

00:16:09:19 - 00:16:27:19
Nick Clason
By the end of the school year, you have a full year library worth of content. So like David said, just you gotta find the time like it's it's we it's no longer an option anymore. I don't think I think you can keep doing it and you probably won't get fired, right. You can keep living life in your very like analog youth pastor way.

00:16:27:23 - 00:16:50:05
Nick Clason
And with all the irons in the fire like that is a way to keep doing the job. But I think we yeah, as youth pastors, can be more effective if we choose to invest in, engage and lean into what this digital space has to offer. For sure. David. What? if anything, is there anything that you're like, I would love it if we could get to this spot.

00:16:50:07 - 00:17:10:15
Nick Clason
Like, these are some of your, like, goals or dreams for your digital stuff, but your youth pastor and you haven't, you know, but legs all the way under it yet or, you know, it's it's a down the road sort of project that you'd like to see. Certainly. you know, obviously you want to continue to work to upgrade the quality of the, the content you're putting out.

00:17:10:17 - 00:17:35:00
David Carpenter
I would love to, lean into, more conversation, type content for YouTube and podcasts and even, you know, using those on social. We did a series, in the month of February. we call it All My Friends. And we sat and took three weeks. I interviewed, a couple different people, two of them. One week it was two of our students, two of our graduating seniors.

00:17:35:00 - 00:18:09:22
David Carpenter
And those videos are our best videos on YouTube. bar none, you know, and did so well. And and it's, you know, it's telling those stories. Yeah. I think people really like that. So content like that and, and more, student driven content, I think is the place we're going. And for your busy youth pastor, man, lean into, you know, your students, your students, our content creators, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are born into a world where they are all create content.

00:18:09:24 - 00:18:31:24
David Carpenter
I mean, go watch a seven year old kid. I go to the gym and my the my gym owner, his daughter, I think she's 7 or 8 and she walks around the gym with a digital camera and makes pictures and videos and, and edits and stories of, you know, her and all her, you know, people at the gym.

00:18:32:01 - 00:18:55:17
David Carpenter
They are all doing it. Yeah. Ask them, lean into them. And that's kind of a space that I would want to grow in. Is is including and and using our students, in that ministry, as, as a way to include them in the discipleship process online and also to, to tell their stories.

00:18:55:17 - 00:19:16:17
Nick Clason
And that's so good. And, you know, you use Premiere Pro, I use Premiere Pro.
So, like, you might hear a couple of guys on this podcast be like, man, it's like, I don't know that I'll have access to it. Like everything now is so accessible. Like I did a whole week's worth of daily recap videos off of my cell phone with cap cut a year ago. And like Canva, you know you can use Canva Pro and do tons of stuff on there.

00:19:16:17 - 00:19:34:24
Nick Clason
And because you're nonprofit, if you're church, it's free. You know, Canva, Canva for, nonprofits is completely free, but they'll give you like the pro, the pro version of it. And so like, you don't have to have all of these, like, higher level skills that you used to have to have, like the barrier to entry into this stuff is is so much lower.

00:19:34:24 - 00:19:53:11
Nick Clason
And you're so right. Like, our students absolutely eat this stuff up and probably want us to just get out of the way and let them do it anyway. So we should just we figure that out. All we gotta do is put a little infrastructure around it. Form.

00:19:53:11 - 00:20:18:13
David Carpenter
Yeah. I mean, what better thing could we do than like, really as student pastors?
What what better, greater opportunity we have then to empower students to step into ministry and to see their life as ministry? They're on social. They they're just like, we we want to encourage them to see their high school basketball team as a ministry. So we would we should do encourage them to see their digital life as a ministry.
Right. It's it's not that we put it in a compartment but that all of that we all of the things we do, our ministry and opportunities to share Jesus and and what better thing could we do than to teach our students that and to include them in that, that

00:20:18:15 - 00:20:55:23
Nick Clason
you're you're so right on that. Well, David, any other sort of like thoughts or words of encouragement that you would have, like, you have opportunity here to like, talk to some other youth pastors, people in church ministry like, you know, what what would you as you look out across the landscape of youth ministry and probably, if you're like me, the lack of digital integration that is existing like what? What would be your like final words or just, you know, final encouragement pieces to to other youth pastors?

00:20:55:23 - 00:21:20:05
David Carpenter
Yeah. You know, I was, I'm a great resource for, for anybody listening. of course, you know, these resources here. I looked at your Linktree the other day, and, I mean, gosh, some incredible resources you've got for for student pastors on there, for a digital resource.

00:21:20:05 - 00:21:45:20
David Carpenter
And also, I would encourage people to look into pro church tools. Brady here, I listened to his podcast every week. And and he is giving out, I mean, just free stuff. he did a, a poll on his Instagram, a couple months ago and asked, you know, these are church creatives. These are people like you and me who value church using digital, you know, marketing and digital opportunities to reach people.

00:21:45:20 - 00:22:18:05
David Carpenter
Jesus. And he asked those churches how many of them their church has a TikTok page. And of those people, 10% said yes. and I you know, you mentioned that group on Facebook of youth pastors only. and I think every time I see someone and it may have been even in that post that we connected on ask about TikTok, I see so many comments of, well, TikTok is just, you know, naked people or dancing people or, or or music that we wouldn't want our students to listen to or whatever.

00:22:18:07 - 00:22:56:23
David Carpenter
And, you know, my courage would be, don't be afraid to step into new things. as in terms of digital, you know, digital outreach, as a student pastor, as a student ministry. you know, when I came to, to this church, our, our ministry was very young, lots of middle schoolers, fewer high schoolers. And with that, fewer of our students had social media, like, a lot of our consistent students weren't on Instagram, they weren't on TikTok.

00:22:57:00 - 00:23:25:12
David Carpenter
And I think sometimes we could think, well, our students aren't even there. Why would I even invest into that? The one there's students in your community who are there, and two, you know, we're we're not affirming everything on something by putting our presence there. There's bad stuff everywhere. You know, our kids grow up and go to college.

00:23:25:14 - 00:23:42:08
David Carpenter
And guess what? I tell our kids all the time, hey, when you go to college, if you want to get into something, you can find it there, right? Your parents can only protect you for so long. And that's true in a lot of digital spaces. If you want to find, sinful things in on the internet, it's not really hard to do.

00:23:42:09 - 00:24:03:22
David Carpenter
All right? We're all mature and old enough to know that that's true. So our choice is either to be afraid and hide and say, well, if I'm not there, I'm not encouraging anybody to go there. Or we can say, hey, there's lost people there. There's people that are far from God there. And I mean, shoot, the way that TikTok's algorithm prioritizes locality.

00:24:03:24 - 00:24:27:24
David Carpenter
There are people in your community, students in your community who are there. And even if you would not encourage your students to go create an account, there, you can still go reach people there. And we have the greatest message that's ever been told. And we have the greatest means to take that message to the whole world. Why would we be afraid?

00:24:28:01 - 00:24:49:00
David Carpenter
And that would be my encouragement. Man is, hey, don't be afraid, try stuff. And guess what? I made a post. shoot. It was on our I was actually on our church page and it did did well on Instagram and did well on YouTube shorts and flopped on TikTok. I mean, like seven views, like horrible, awful. and guess what?

00:24:49:02 - 00:25:27:04
David Carpenter
The sun still came up the next day and not everything's going to work. But don't be afraid. Step into digital spaces because there is an incredible opportunity to minister to students and reach students in those spaces. And so I would just encourage you, don't be afraid. Yes, we have discernment from the Holy Spirit. Yes, there is wisdom. And no, we don't have to say yes to everything, but be wise and be willing to step out and trust that God can take your, a message that that someone is listening is is teaching maybe to a room of of 15 students.

00:25:27:06 - 00:25:44:06
David Carpenter
And there's something you could say in that, or a guest could say in that, or one of your students could encourage somebody with and millions of people could be encouraged with the love of Jesus. And I mean, what, what kind of incredible opportunity is that? And why would we not lean into that in any way we could? you're so right.

00:25:44:06 - 00:26:12:16
Nick Clason
And, you know, TikTok was just the new one, but everyone else has figured out how to compete with them. Now. So Facebook, Instagram have reels and YouTube shorts. And so if you're like, well, my kids aren't on TikTok, well, if they're on Instagram, you can still make the exact same type of content. If they're on YouTube, you can like my I, I crack up because like my hours, I have parents who are like, my kids aren't on TikTok, but they're on YouTube more like they're on than they're watching the same same things, same stuff.

00:26:12:20 - 00:26:32:04
Nick Clason
You haven't done anything. They're just on YouTube now. So, yeah. you know, it's it's all that's the thing. Like I work at what I say is one of the most conservative churches, and so we have just as much parents or whatever who might be a little freaked out by some of these things. And, but YouTube seems to be like the safe one.

00:26:32:08 - 00:26:50:05
Nick Clason
You know, I'm like, well, on YouTube and, like, oh, yeah, that's fine. Like, because parents watch YouTube and you can watch it on your TV in your house because there's like an app for it on your all your smart TVs and stuff like that. And so like our executive pastor, his daughter, she's not social media but do watch all of our like YouTube stuff on their TV in their house.

00:26:50:05 - 00:27:11:09
Nick Clason
Like even the silly stuff that we do. Even like the little shorts in the games and stuff that we do on there. And so it's like you said, it lean into it because if that's where our students are, I think there's a stat from Pew. Like 95% of teenagers say that they will use YouTube. So if that's where they are, like, you're right, why would we not be there to get there?

00:27:11:11 - 00:27:28:09
Nick Clason
So get there. Well, man, I appreciate your time. David, where would be like, if people want to see all this stuff, I'll drop some of these things in the show notes. Like, how can they get Ahold of you? How can they, check out what you're doing on your churches and youth ministry, social media? let us know where where they can find you.

00:27:28:11 - 00:27:47:20
David Carpenter
Yeah. Our, our church is, everywhere. It's it's Harrodsburg dot church. So our seed ministry is Harrodsburg dot students. That's YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. You should be able to get to there. my Facebook and Instagram, our David Lee Carpenter. There's a lot of David Carpenters out there, so I put my middle name in there. You should be able to find me. and if I can help or encourage anybody along the way, I would love to do that. I'm thankful for you to to let me. Come on. And I hope it helps somebody bless somebody today.

00:27:47:22 - 00:28:44:24
Nick Clason
Absolutely. Hey, thanks for being on. Appreciate your time today. And we'll talk next time.

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00:00 Who is David Carpenter?
02:59 What is your current youth ministry social media?
07:16 What exactly do you do?
14:19 Digital Discipleship for Cheap
16:48 The Easiest Content for Youth Pastors to Create
20:34 Don't Be Afraid!

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00:00:01:02 - 00:00:25:04
Nick Clason
What's going on, everybody? Hey, I got another interview style episode for you today. This time it is with David Carpenter. He's a youth pastor in Kentucky, and I came across David through social media, I think, in like a youth pastor, only or doing type style Facebook group. He was talking and answering a question about social media. And so his answer intrigued me.

00:00:25:04 - 00:00:45:21
David Carpenter
I clicked on his profile and I saw that David is very much leaning into a digital and hybrid ministry experience in his church and in his ministry. So I reached out and I scheduled an interview. And so, without any further ado, I have the exclusive David Carpenter interview for you to check out here on the Hybrid Ministry episode.

00:00:45:21 - 00:01:08:00
David Carpenter
If you find this helpful in any way, I would love it if you would subscribe, like, and share it with a friend, but without any further ado, check this interview out between myself and David Carpenter. I'm here with David. David, what is up, man? How are you doing this morning?

00:01:08:00 - 00:01:26:11
David Carpenter
I'm doing great. I am recovering. We're in the middle of a VBS week right now as we're recording this.
So some of I'm sure if some of you all know how that goes and, we're, you know, kind of making it through, but it's it's a good time and it's a good week. So now we're doing it. VBS at night, church or VBS in the morning. Church. Yeah, we're VBS at night. okay. And I'm, I'm crazy youth pastor David.

00:01:26:11 - 00:01:38:16
David Carpenter
So I, you know, get stuck up on the stage and then do crazy dances and jump around and, and the like. So that's kind of the kind of the rhythm, at least once a week in the summer, that, that we're in. But yeah, it's a good time.

00:01:38:11 - 00:01:45:16
Nick Clason
Yeah. We've all been there. We've all been. Yeah, we've all been there, just, you know, part as part of the gigs.
How goes. So, Well, that's awesome. I'm excited that you guys are having a good week. I hope that you're getting, at least some sleep. And I hope that your coffee this morning is strong so that you can recover. Well, it is VBS know, but I, I came across David, I think, in like a DYM or youth pastor's only or something like that Facebook group.
and someone had asked some sort of question about social media or something, and, you replied, I have no idea what you said, but I started creeping on you and your profile, and I just saw a lot of different, like, videos and like shorts and reels and stuff like that. and it was more than I was used to for, I guess I would say like the average or like or standard youth ministry, social media that I saw.
And so because of that caught my attention. and so I followed you and or became friends with you or something on Facebook. reached out to you and, and chatted a little bit. But I'm excited to have you on here today, because I'd love to know, you know, what is like your as it stands today, in your student ministry at your church.
Like what is your current sort of like social media or digital presence? What does it what does it look like? What do you what do you aim in for? And how's all that going?

00:02:51:04 - 00:03:16:19
David Carpenter
Yeah. well, I appreciate you asking and obviously honored to to be here. And we connected on, on that, question. And, you know, I started doing social media stuff when I was probably shoot 14 or 15.

00:03:16:21 - 00:03:46:04
David Carpenter
my dad was a pastor. And obviously, I'm sure lots of pastors kids out there know you get roped into doing things. And he was kind of an early innovator and had started doing a weekly YouTube show for our church. This was probably back in 2012, 2013, and I wanted to increase the views on it. So I created a Facebook page for it and kind of started to put together a logo for it and, and try to find ways to increase its, viewership and things like that.

00:03:46:04 - 00:04:15:09
David Carpenter
And kind of got my feet wet doing, you know, video editing and social media stuff at that point. But, instead of ministry, you know, we are looking at social media as an opportunity to disciple our students, but also as a, an outward opportunity to disciple, you know, literally people across the world, and, you know, practically that looks like a couple different things.

00:04:15:11 - 00:05:00:16
David Carpenter
platforms we use, we use, YouTube. We put our regular, weekly ministry teachings on podcast form. we use TikTok and we use Instagram, which is connected to a Facebook account. Our students don't engage there much, but, we, we share some of that stuff because I think it helps to keep parents connected, but, kind of a shift in the mindset going into it for us is, is that opportunity for discipleship that, you know, we are producing teachings and content that, man, it it's kind of already done and we have the opportunity to capture it and record it and then redisplay it, to potentially an audience that

00:05:00:16 - 00:05:21:21
David Carpenter
was missing on a Wednesday night or an audience that may, may never be able to come to our church. and so, you know, kind of, for you, probably about a year ago, we, we started thinking about ways for our church and our student ministry to really maximize, digital, you know, opportunities to reach people and, and disciple people.

00:05:21:23 - 00:05:41:03
David Carpenter
And over the last year, we've been kind of rolling that out and stepping into that over time. because we want to make sure that we can do it in sustainable and continuous ways. But, yeah, it's it's really just it's it's an opportunity for discipleship and for us to tell the story of our church, for us to tell the story of our state of ministry.

00:05:41:05 - 00:06:06:18
David Carpenter
people love stories. And, when, when we have the opportunity to share the stories of what Jesus is doing in the lives of our students or, or just even ways that our students are connecting and and enjoying their teenage years in a healthy Christian community. we feel like that's a win.

00:06:06:18 - 00:06:32:09
Nick Clason
So, yeah, no doubt, the most recent episodes, that I had, I had are like, year long resident on here.
And it was interesting because he mentioned the value that like, our social media sort of like presents and, and just philosophy and strategy, the value that it brought to like our attendance and our students are actually like in the room. Right. Because a lot of times, a lot of times I think it's like, we view it as like a replacement for the kids that were not at church or, for the kids that aren't even there yet.

00:06:32:09 - 00:06:57:17
Nick Clason
But he was like, no, it I thought it enhanced like the experience for the kids are already there, which was like an interesting like I'd seen it too, but I hadn't like, I hadn't come to that sort of like conclusion, like he had. So I because I do think the argument a lot of times that I feel like either we face as youth pastors or even just like me with this podcast, it's just that there's not enough time, and we need to focus on the kids that we have.

00:06:57:19 - 00:07:16:08
Nick Clason
And so to hear you say like, this is not this is an opportunity. This is a way for us to lean in with the kids that we have like that I agree with I would agree with that. And so get like get specific here, like help, help us out, help people out. Like what exactly do you do? Like what camera do you use?

00:07:16:08 - 00:07:38:00
Nick Clason
What like software are you using to edit. Like what's your because you're a real youth pastor with a real job, with real responsibilities, with real messages to write and programs to create, like, how are you, involving digital media into that? And like, what's your workflow with all that? Because it feels like it would probably be a steep learning curve or just a lot of extra work.
And maybe it is, but like, what are you doing? What's helping you out? What's what are some shortcuts? Maybe that might be out there.

00:07:38:00 - 00:07:55:02
David CarpenterYeah. Well, first, I think what you said is completely true, that it's it is an outward facing thing, but also one, I think sometimes where we as preachers assume that people come and listen to us.

00:07:55:03 - 00:08:27:07
David Carpenter
I speak to our students on Wednesday nights for about 18 to 22 minutes. Sunday morning there's a, you know, 28 to 32 minutes. And we think they probably remember everything we said, right. Like they they wrote the notes. They've got it in. They've already applied every one of these points. You know, it was all iterated. And I remember my great illustration and one, you know, when, when we're including things that are reflecting on the teachings, I think that reinforces and reminds those who were in the room and also, things like we did a post on our social that did really well a few months ago of, yeah, a picture of a student taking notes,

00:08:27:09 - 00:08:44:03
David Carpenter
and the post was all overlaid on the photo of the student was the notes from Wednesday night, some of the notes that we'd given them, and then in the caption was information. What? Why do we encourage students to take notes? Why do we give out handouts and and give an opportunity to teach culture in in those moments? So it definitely is for the kids in the room too.

00:08:44:03 - 00:09:06:21
David Carpenter
But yeah, practically speaking, we, from, September, August to May, we regularly gather for student nights. Our church takes the month of June off, and then we come back in July with some different programing on Monday nights. But for those student nights, we capture those, I capture those from our soundboard straight into GarageBand. It's nothing fancy.

00:09:06:21 - 00:09:27:24
David Carpenter
I think if you listen to podcasts, you're probably smart enough to go get a it's a I think it was an $8 adapter that is a board out to a usb-C in. And I just record the audio of the speaking. and we do podcast for the reason of one number one demographic for podcast listeners is like 12 to 22.

00:09:28:01 - 00:09:43:13
David Carpenter
I heard somewhere. And so our students and student aged people are listening to podcast. And also I use those as a resource for our parents always encourage our our parents to stay connected. If you listen to the podcast as a parent, hey, you can listen to what your student is learning and stay engaged and connected to our students in that way.

00:09:43:17 - 00:10:03:11
David Carpenter
So we have audio in that way. And then we as a message is beginning. Our church is not a very big church. We're in a more rural area. We're about an hour, 45 minutes an hour south of Lexington, Kentucky. and so we have a canon in 100, which is not a super nice camera. it's an outdated model.

00:10:03:11 - 00:10:27:06
David Carpenter
I think the 200 came out a couple of years ago. So this is a post post, you know, model camera. and we set it on a tripod high enough that it's pretty well over the students head, and we record those and, get a long form video of the message. and that goes on YouTube and that, that again, the primary purpose of that is for our parents to have a way to connect.

00:10:27:08 - 00:10:47:19
David Carpenter
I don't have any visions of, of those, you know, going viral or making me famous. it's, you know, those are we're getting 2 to 6, eight views on those videos. but, you know, it's it's so that we have a digital record of it. And then, those get split into my goal is always two short form clips that go on TikTok and Instagram.

00:10:47:19 - 00:11:10:15
David Carpenter
And if you can get them short enough YouTube shorts a week. as a way to reiterate, I reiterate, there's a word in there somewhere. I probably reiterate. There you go. That's the one. our teachings on Wednesday night, to connect back with those students and obviously to disciple people who, you know, they may be near to you, but are far from out or need encouragement in their faith.

00:11:10:17 - 00:11:32:20
David Carpenter
so that's pretty practical. I use Premiere Pro. I've always used Adobe products. it's but the what we do, I mean, you I feel you could get a YouTube video, of your teachings. You could use a phone and a, digital recorded mic, like a, phone in usb-C mic, especially if you've got a light, you know, new model phone.

00:11:32:22 - 00:11:53:09
David Carpenter
if you're not in a large space, this as your space gets larger, it's the lens being able to zoom in on the space that you're in. But it's not fancy technology. the church has invested $10 in an an adapter to record the audio, and now we just, we got better quality from the board straight into to a laptop.

00:11:53:10 - 00:12:16:05
David Carpenter
So, I mean, so that's that's kind of the we build out from there because, we can stay consistent with that, especially through the school year. the other things we're doing is, we show up with a camera to everything we do. I use a canon, I'm sitting here looking at it. I think it's a. Let me look, let me tell you, for I like to.

00:12:16:07 - 00:12:36:00
David Carpenter
It's a 70 day. I couldn't reference a 7080 or an 80, but with a 70 to 200 lens. I'm not a photographer. about two and a half years ago, I started taking pictures. And I've gotten better over time. You can put that thing in auto, and if you take enough pictures, you can get a couple good ones.

00:12:36:04 - 00:12:52:17
David Carpenter
Some. Some will look good, right? Yes. Exactly right. If you can get a couple good ones in focus, and we have leaders now that, you know, of course, like when I'm, when I'm speaking or on stage playing a game or something, I can't get those pictures. I tell them, hey, just this is how you focus it and do your best.

00:12:52:17 - 00:13:11:01
David Carpenter
And they always, you know, I've got multiple leaders who can come out with a couple good pictures. Those are great to have for your YouTube thumbnails and Instagram Reels covers. And then also just having a photo library, is helpful for for to stay consistent. That's one of the most important things I feel like with social and success in is consistency.

00:13:11:01 - 00:13:34:23
David Carpenter
And I think for people like us who work, you know, a full time job as a student, pastor, youth pastor, that's probably the greatest challenge. So building rhythms into your regular weekly life to prioritize social is important. And I think that's kind of what you are in doing what you're doing, trying to encourage people towards. And something I would definitely Amen.

00:13:34:23 - 00:14:00:06
David Carpenter
Yes and amen with what you're doing to say, hey, we are busy, but the five ten hours a week that it takes to, you know, record and and put a message on YouTube, cut it up into some clips, maybe find another way to to post on social once another week, once. Once a week. Twice. Like it's worth it because you are connecting to your kids where they already are.

00:14:00:06 - 00:14:20:17
David Carpenter
And it's an incredible mission field. It's an incredible opportunity. And, and I think it it's one of those things where sometimes we think, well, if I had time, I would, but it's like, no, this is something we need to make time for. Digital discipleship, should should be a priority, especially, for people reaching, you know, Gen Z and Gen Alpha.

00:14:20:19 - 00:14:40:05
Nick Clason
Yeah. Dude. I mean, I couldn't agree with you more. You said, like, so many things in there that, like, I like I feel like I've been saying, you know, so, like, the first thing of which is, like, you spent $10 to get better audio. And so because one of my arguments that I feel like a lot of youth pastors have is like, we're not the main room, we're not the main auditorium.

00:14:40:05 - 00:14:56:02
Nick Clason
So we don't have like the live stream gear. We don't have all that type of stuff. And like, you know, you just made the case, like, you don't have to have all that. Like, you can just put a camera up in the back of the room, like one of the strategies that we recommend, here on this podcast is like just sitting down like pre filming your messages.

00:14:56:02 - 00:15:25:05
Nick Clason
But if you don't even have the time to do that, like you can do it, David did. And just put a camera in the back of the room, capture your audio. And that's even one less like step of extra work, you know, and like you were saying, and it's interesting when you talk about like, having a digital library, like, that's a fantastic resource for down the road, because you might be counseling a kid, or kid might come to you with a particular issue and you're like, I've actually like studied that in Scripture.

00:15:25:05 - 00:15:45:09
Nick Clason
And like, I have that information and I've packaged it in like a sermon. It just was like two months ago. But like you have the YouTube link, let me send that to you. Because maybe they weren't there, maybe they weren't coming to your church yet, or maybe they whatever the reason, right, that were to your point, they just don't remember it because our teachings aren't as valuable as we hope and think that they they would be.

00:15:45:09 - 00:16:09:17
Nick Clason
And there's so there's really is so much like I agree, so much value in creating like a digital, a digital library far beyond what we can possibly think or imagine. I think. And you, if you start now, that begins to build and compound on itself, you know. So if let's say you're hearing this in the middle of this summer and this year, you're like, I'm going to start capturing my messages and posting them on YouTube.

00:16:09:19 - 00:16:27:19
Nick Clason
By the end of the school year, you have a full year library worth of content. So like David said, just you gotta find the time like it's it's we it's no longer an option anymore. I don't think I think you can keep doing it and you probably won't get fired, right. You can keep living life in your very like analog youth pastor way.

00:16:27:23 - 00:16:50:05
Nick Clason
And with all the irons in the fire like that is a way to keep doing the job. But I think we yeah, as youth pastors, can be more effective if we choose to invest in, engage and lean into what this digital space has to offer. For sure. David. What? if anything, is there anything that you're like, I would love it if we could get to this spot.

00:16:50:07 - 00:17:10:15
Nick Clason
Like, these are some of your, like, goals or dreams for your digital stuff, but your youth pastor and you haven't, you know, but legs all the way under it yet or, you know, it's it's a down the road sort of project that you'd like to see. Certainly. you know, obviously you want to continue to work to upgrade the quality of the, the content you're putting out.

00:17:10:17 - 00:17:35:00
David Carpenter
I would love to, lean into, more conversation, type content for YouTube and podcasts and even, you know, using those on social. We did a series, in the month of February. we call it All My Friends. And we sat and took three weeks. I interviewed, a couple different people, two of them. One week it was two of our students, two of our graduating seniors.

00:17:35:00 - 00:18:09:22
David Carpenter
And those videos are our best videos on YouTube. bar none, you know, and did so well. And and it's, you know, it's telling those stories. Yeah. I think people really like that. So content like that and, and more, student driven content, I think is the place we're going. And for your busy youth pastor, man, lean into, you know, your students, your students, our content creators, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are born into a world where they are all create content.

00:18:09:24 - 00:18:31:24
David Carpenter
I mean, go watch a seven year old kid. I go to the gym and my the my gym owner, his daughter, I think she's 7 or 8 and she walks around the gym with a digital camera and makes pictures and videos and, and edits and stories of, you know, her and all her, you know, people at the gym.

00:18:32:01 - 00:18:55:17
David Carpenter
They are all doing it. Yeah. Ask them, lean into them. And that's kind of a space that I would want to grow in. Is is including and and using our students, in that ministry, as, as a way to include them in the discipleship process online and also to, to tell their stories.

00:18:55:17 - 00:19:16:17
Nick Clason
And that's so good. And, you know, you use Premiere Pro, I use Premiere Pro.
So, like, you might hear a couple of guys on this podcast be like, man, it's like, I don't know that I'll have access to it. Like everything now is so accessible. Like I did a whole week's worth of daily recap videos off of my cell phone with cap cut a year ago. And like Canva, you know you can use Canva Pro and do tons of stuff on there.

00:19:16:17 - 00:19:34:24
Nick Clason
And because you're nonprofit, if you're church, it's free. You know, Canva, Canva for, nonprofits is completely free, but they'll give you like the pro, the pro version of it. And so like, you don't have to have all of these, like, higher level skills that you used to have to have, like the barrier to entry into this stuff is is so much lower.

00:19:34:24 - 00:19:53:11
Nick Clason
And you're so right. Like, our students absolutely eat this stuff up and probably want us to just get out of the way and let them do it anyway. So we should just we figure that out. All we gotta do is put a little infrastructure around it. Form.

00:19:53:11 - 00:20:18:13
David Carpenter
Yeah. I mean, what better thing could we do than like, really as student pastors?
What what better, greater opportunity we have then to empower students to step into ministry and to see their life as ministry? They're on social. They they're just like, we we want to encourage them to see their high school basketball team as a ministry. So we would we should do encourage them to see their digital life as a ministry.
Right. It's it's not that we put it in a compartment but that all of that we all of the things we do, our ministry and opportunities to share Jesus and and what better thing could we do than to teach our students that and to include them in that, that

00:20:18:15 - 00:20:55:23
Nick Clason
you're you're so right on that. Well, David, any other sort of like thoughts or words of encouragement that you would have, like, you have opportunity here to like, talk to some other youth pastors, people in church ministry like, you know, what what would you as you look out across the landscape of youth ministry and probably, if you're like me, the lack of digital integration that is existing like what? What would be your like final words or just, you know, final encouragement pieces to to other youth pastors?

00:20:55:23 - 00:21:20:05
David Carpenter
Yeah. You know, I was, I'm a great resource for, for anybody listening. of course, you know, these resources here. I looked at your Linktree the other day, and, I mean, gosh, some incredible resources you've got for for student pastors on there, for a digital resource.

00:21:20:05 - 00:21:45:20
David Carpenter
And also, I would encourage people to look into pro church tools. Brady here, I listened to his podcast every week. And and he is giving out, I mean, just free stuff. he did a, a poll on his Instagram, a couple months ago and asked, you know, these are church creatives. These are people like you and me who value church using digital, you know, marketing and digital opportunities to reach people.

00:21:45:20 - 00:22:18:05
David Carpenter
Jesus. And he asked those churches how many of them their church has a TikTok page. And of those people, 10% said yes. and I you know, you mentioned that group on Facebook of youth pastors only. and I think every time I see someone and it may have been even in that post that we connected on ask about TikTok, I see so many comments of, well, TikTok is just, you know, naked people or dancing people or, or or music that we wouldn't want our students to listen to or whatever.

00:22:18:07 - 00:22:56:23
David Carpenter
And, you know, my courage would be, don't be afraid to step into new things. as in terms of digital, you know, digital outreach, as a student pastor, as a student ministry. you know, when I came to, to this church, our, our ministry was very young, lots of middle schoolers, fewer high schoolers. And with that, fewer of our students had social media, like, a lot of our consistent students weren't on Instagram, they weren't on TikTok.

00:22:57:00 - 00:23:25:12
David Carpenter
And I think sometimes we could think, well, our students aren't even there. Why would I even invest into that? The one there's students in your community who are there, and two, you know, we're we're not affirming everything on something by putting our presence there. There's bad stuff everywhere. You know, our kids grow up and go to college.

00:23:25:14 - 00:23:42:08
David Carpenter
And guess what? I tell our kids all the time, hey, when you go to college, if you want to get into something, you can find it there, right? Your parents can only protect you for so long. And that's true in a lot of digital spaces. If you want to find, sinful things in on the internet, it's not really hard to do.

00:23:42:09 - 00:24:03:22
David Carpenter
All right? We're all mature and old enough to know that that's true. So our choice is either to be afraid and hide and say, well, if I'm not there, I'm not encouraging anybody to go there. Or we can say, hey, there's lost people there. There's people that are far from God there. And I mean, shoot, the way that TikTok's algorithm prioritizes locality.

00:24:03:24 - 00:24:27:24
David Carpenter
There are people in your community, students in your community who are there. And even if you would not encourage your students to go create an account, there, you can still go reach people there. And we have the greatest message that's ever been told. And we have the greatest means to take that message to the whole world. Why would we be afraid?

00:24:28:01 - 00:24:49:00
David Carpenter
And that would be my encouragement. Man is, hey, don't be afraid, try stuff. And guess what? I made a post. shoot. It was on our I was actually on our church page and it did did well on Instagram and did well on YouTube shorts and flopped on TikTok. I mean, like seven views, like horrible, awful. and guess what?

00:24:49:02 - 00:25:27:04
David Carpenter
The sun still came up the next day and not everything's going to work. But don't be afraid. Step into digital spaces because there is an incredible opportunity to minister to students and reach students in those spaces. And so I would just encourage you, don't be afraid. Yes, we have discernment from the Holy Spirit. Yes, there is wisdom. And no, we don't have to say yes to everything, but be wise and be willing to step out and trust that God can take your, a message that that someone is listening is is teaching maybe to a room of of 15 students.

00:25:27:06 - 00:25:44:06
David Carpenter
And there's something you could say in that, or a guest could say in that, or one of your students could encourage somebody with and millions of people could be encouraged with the love of Jesus. And I mean, what, what kind of incredible opportunity is that? And why would we not lean into that in any way we could? you're so right.

00:25:44:06 - 00:26:12:16
Nick Clason
And, you know, TikTok was just the new one, but everyone else has figured out how to compete with them. Now. So Facebook, Instagram have reels and YouTube shorts. And so if you're like, well, my kids aren't on TikTok, well, if they're on Instagram, you can still make the exact same type of content. If they're on YouTube, you can like my I, I crack up because like my hours, I have parents who are like, my kids aren't on TikTok, but they're on YouTube more like they're on than they're watching the same same things, same stuff.

00:26:12:20 - 00:26:32:04
Nick Clason
You haven't done anything. They're just on YouTube now. So, yeah. you know, it's it's all that's the thing. Like I work at what I say is one of the most conservative churches, and so we have just as much parents or whatever who might be a little freaked out by some of these things. And, but YouTube seems to be like the safe one.

00:26:32:08 - 00:26:50:05
Nick Clason
You know, I'm like, well, on YouTube and, like, oh, yeah, that's fine. Like, because parents watch YouTube and you can watch it on your TV in your house because there's like an app for it on your all your smart TVs and stuff like that. And so like our executive pastor, his daughter, she's not social media but do watch all of our like YouTube stuff on their TV in their house.

00:26:50:05 - 00:27:11:09
Nick Clason
Like even the silly stuff that we do. Even like the little shorts in the games and stuff that we do on there. And so it's like you said, it lean into it because if that's where our students are, I think there's a stat from Pew. Like 95% of teenagers say that they will use YouTube. So if that's where they are, like, you're right, why would we not be there to get there?

00:27:11:11 - 00:27:28:09
Nick Clason
So get there. Well, man, I appreciate your time. David, where would be like, if people want to see all this stuff, I'll drop some of these things in the show notes. Like, how can they get Ahold of you? How can they, check out what you're doing on your churches and youth ministry, social media? let us know where where they can find you.

00:27:28:11 - 00:27:47:20
David Carpenter
Yeah. Our, our church is, everywhere. It's it's Harrodsburg dot church. So our seed ministry is Harrodsburg dot students. That's YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. You should be able to get to there. my Facebook and Instagram, our David Lee Carpenter. There's a lot of David Carpenters out there, so I put my middle name in there. You should be able to find me. and if I can help or encourage anybody along the way, I would love to do that. I'm thankful for you to to let me. Come on. And I hope it helps somebody bless somebody today.

00:27:47:22 - 00:28:44:24
Nick Clason
Absolutely. Hey, thanks for being on. Appreciate your time today. And we'll talk next time.

]]> Episode 107: A Gen-Zer's Take on Hybrid Ministry https://www.hybridministry.xyz/107 6fb2ac60-3aa7-46cc-860e-6a63e7ebe83f Thu, 25 Jul 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 107 A Gen-Zer's Take on Hybrid Ministry full Nick Clason In this video, a Gen-Zer shares their perspective on the future of ministry, specifically focusing on the concept of hybrid ministry. Exploring how technology and traditional practices can blend to create a more inclusive and engaging worship experience, this insightful discussion provides a fresh take on how ministries can adapt to meet the needs of the digital age. 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Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. This is a fun, actually interview episode. So for those of you who have been watching following along over the last year or so, I've mentioned my resident, his name is Caleb. now a nickname. Call him flywheel. because he was in his residence, group Learning project, and he needed to read, from good to great. 00;00;23;54 - 00;00;42;15 Nick Clason And he knew to read the flywheel chapter. And so I called him flywheel. and he now calls me Thunder Dog because I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan. but anyway, he's been with us for a year now, and I actually, I wanted to get his take, today, we actually said goodbye to him. we had, like, a breakfast at our house with him, my family. 00;00;42;20 - 00;00;56;20 Nick Clason and so he's heading back home, but I want to get his take on what it was like, to work in a hybrid ministry environment. Like, you know, as a resident, you really get a lot of choices on that. And so, since he didn't get a lot of choices, I want to be like, hey, what do you think? 00;00;56;32 - 00;01;16;03 Nick Clason What are you going to keep? What are you going to get go away from? and so I'm excited to have you kind of sit in on this interview, just conversation informal, him and I and just kind of his experience in this sort of hybrid space. So. Hope you enjoy. if this is helpful to you or anyone else that you might think, give it a like, give it a share. 00;01;16;18 - 00;01;21;23 Nick Clason give it a subscribe. All those things are incredibly helpful to us. So without any further ado, the exclusive 00;01;21;23 - 00;01;24;25 Nick Clason one and only Flywheel Caleb Maeda interview. 00;01;26;03 - 00;01;48;33 Nick Clason Well, I'm here with Flywheel Maeda. Caleb Maeda Hey. so I don't know, like, I don't know. You came into my world, and I told you that hybrid ministry, digital ministry, all that stuff mattered. so. So take us back. 00;01;48;35 - 00;01;53;40 Nick Clason Take me back to when you, like, started with me at, like back in Chicago. Yeah. Well, 00;01;53;40 - 00;01;57;55 Caleb Maeda yeah. So back in Chicago is like my first church job. Like in general. 00;01;58;50 - 00;02;11;09 Caleb Maeda so I wasn't really sure how anything worked. So I think that really started, like, my mind set on, like, hybrid ministry because, like, I didn't have any previous, like, things I was holding on to, like, I had. youth group that I grew up in, but it was pretty different. And also coming out of like the pandemic. yeah. Like it like made sense. And then when I saw it working and like I saw because like the model that you guys used with like the connect groups that like, met in the homes and then watched it and like, interact with it. I thought that was like super cool. And so then also getting to like work on that show and like helped produce a little bit and like run some of this stuff like I like immediately saw the value and also like, like just being a younger person. Like I grew up watching YouTube like like the people that I like, loved growing up or like YouTubers and so like the value of that platform with this generation. I think I also kind of related to and so like from the get go, I was kind of brought in, I was like, yeah, this is legit, I agree. I mean. 00;02;58;06 - 00;03;03;59 Nick Clason Did you ever, did you ever feel like, oh, these guys are trying to be YouTubers and they're old? 00;03;08;22 - 00;03;23;42 Caleb Maeda No, because I think at the time it was honestly like the stuff that I was working on at Parkview is like the search for Chuck the duck that summer. And so, like, it was not stupid enough, but it was it was stupid enough that it was like these guys, like, they're clearly not doing this for clout. Like, I don't know any 30 year old man who's like, you know, it'd be really cool searching for a fake rubber duck for an entire summer, you know? And so I never I never got that kind of vibe just because of the nature of what we were doing. 00;03;35;15 - 00;03;42;54 Nick Clason Yeah. Okay, so then you, after your time with us in Chicago, you go and you work at your home church for a little bit, right? And just interning? Yeah, mostly in the arena of worship. 00;03;50;12 - 00;04;05;10 Caleb Maeda No, I was is youth for the first school year, and then it was worship the second school year. What was their relationship with digital social media hybrid? I mean, so they're they're your typical like evangelical covenant, like multi-site church. So they're like they're with it, but they're not sure 00;04;05;19 - 00;04;24;37 Nick Clason I wonder how many evangelical covenant multi-site churches or like you say, typical. 00;04;24;12 - 00;04;38;10 Caleb Maeda I actually don't know. It's a thing in Minnesota, I guess, from where I grew up. But, so they do have a value of social media, but they're not quite as consistent like they don't have, I don't think. And granted, when I was there, their social media platform was we didn't have students over Christmas break. So like, let's make something fun. And like that was it other than like announcements for events and stuff. Yeah. And now these days it's a little bit more like, you know, the trends where like, you see a guy, like, fall off a stretcher and then it's someone rolling and say, like, you should get to like, you know, those classes. 00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21 Nick Clason I think you need only do some of this. 00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21 Caleb Maeda I saw one the other day. We should do. but so like, they've started doing some more of that stuff in the past year or so. And so I think it's, it's done an uptick, but it's not as fleshed out as, like what we're doing here of like two posts a day, you know, that kind of, yeah. 00;04;54;26 - 00;05;18;11 Caleb Maeda And they don't like a good day. Yeah. And they don't they don't do, like, fun content, like drafts or like things like that. The students other than, like pictures for, like recaps of events and stuff, they're not super on the pages. It's mostly like announcement based stuff. Yeah, yeah. Which like is a is a pretty like standard operating procedure for like churches and social media. 00;05;18;12 - 00;05;24;09 Nick Clason Yeah. have a whole video linked right here about, you should also be posting announcements. 00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40 Caleb Maeda You Should link to Parkview one to like, I only saw one at a time. 00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40 Nick Clason I can only do one. We have it. We did it. We did. 00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36 Caleb Maeda Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. 00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36 Nick Clason I know you didn't. That's why you link to, like, three times in your last teaching video. 00;05;36;40 - 00;05;51;29 Nick Clason Don't worry about this link to it here. This link I thought you could. You get one. You get one card per video. There you go. I didn't know that YouTube. I didn't know that one. I'm getting exposed right now. I thought I'd never mind. It's like we can talk about that later, but, Okay, so then 00;05;51;29 - 00;05;55;43 Nick Clason then you come here and we are. 00;05;55;47 - 00;05;57;55 Nick Clason What we're doing is very different. 00;05;57;55 - 00;06;09;14 Nick Clason the Parkview one, by the way. I'll link it down in the description. You can watch it. It's like the 100th episode. 100th episode. How it all started. It's pretty pog. Yeah, I think it was a good one. It was a good one. but anyway, 00;06;09;14 - 00;06;12;23 Nick Clason you come down here and it's different. 00;06;12;28 - 00;06;26;51 Nick Clason Put it, put aside your people pleasing nature. Like, just give me the raw, unfiltered, like, what do you think? 00;06;26;51 - 00;06;48;29 Caleb Maeda I mean, again, like, I, I agreed with what we were doing because I think of my experience at Parkview. I think for me, once we started doing or like trying to make students on the page more of a priority, that was kind of the shift that I was more on board with just because like, yeah, like the the one I struggled with the most were those like the no, it or not dancing TikToks that we did, I freaking I like I'm not a dancer, so I hated them, but like, I hated them cause I 00;06;48;29 - 00;07;14;43 Nick Clason was not a dancer. Not for like strategy reasons. but once we started getting students on the page, I think that was where I started feeling like, yeah, we're doing something that, like, is cool. so yeah, yeah, that was kind of my first. So, you are heading, like off on your own at some point. At some point we don't know what's next. 00;07;14;48 - 00;07;37;26 Nick Clason Yeah. But like, what are your thoughts on, like. All right, I'm about to be my own youth pastor, and I just did a, summer internship and then a full year long residency, with, church and youth pastors who are fully bought into, like, digital, like. Yeah. First of all, summarize your opinion 00;07;37;26 - 00;07;40;47 Nick Clason like, you just you gave a lot of different like examples of like summarize like, yeah. 00;07;40;51 - 00;07;44;10 Nick Clason Do you think it's like worth it valuable. 00;07;44;10 - 00;07;50;41 Nick Clason And then like how would you yeah. How would you tell people like here's how it's working on 00;07;50;41 - 00;07;57;25 Nick Clason like the inside of it because like, you know, if anyone follows me or listen to my stuff like they hear me reference it, talk about what we do. 00;07;57;25 - 00;08;00;45 Nick Clason But like, you got to see, like, firsthand and like, just be honest. 00;08;00;45 - 00;08;05;52 Nick Clason Like, are you like, I don't know, I don't know if it's working or not. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think the 00;08;05;52 - 00;08;25;31 Caleb Maeda things that have been working the most has been getting students involved on the page, not even in terms of like on the page traction as much as like in person traction, because I think I think like with the social challenge that we did with the Hot Wings thing that we did like, it was a lot of kids saying like, hey, how can I be on screen? 00;08;25;41 - 00;08;38;03 Caleb Maeda You know, this is what it was. It was how can I what can I do? Yeah. And like, well, that shouldn't be your only motivation to like, do these things. I think it lended itself great to increasing like the desire to like, serve 00;08;38;03 - 00;08;56;03 Caleb Maeda or like well and like there, like you said, like what's normal to them. Yeah. Like and the option to like be on social media or be on YouTube is like a little bit, well, because like, I remember growing up and like seeing all my favorite YouTubers and thinking like, man, I wish I could do that, but I don't know how to do this. 00;08;56;03 - 00;09;24;01 Caleb Maeda I don't know how to do this. And so I think it's a really great way for students to even live that little piece of them who, like, they don't know how to set up a studio. They don't know what lights are. Yeah, I don't know what that is. that's Jake. Yeah it is. Jake. Shout out to Jake I love you, but, like they it's it's an experience for them to get to like, live that out a little bit and then also do it in like a safe context where like, it's like, I don't know, it's safe for the family content. 00;09;24;01 - 00;09;39;47 Caleb Maeda Like I think also just like the opportunity, the whole family. Yeah. It is like the opportunity to just like replace one video, I think in a kids feed is like a win in my opinion, because of just like the nature of social media, you know, like we can get into the whole of like comparing our lives and stuff. 00;09;39;49 - 00;09;48;01 Caleb Maeda Yeah. Or like we can watch stupid people draft like, pizza toppings and pick Palios number one. Yeah. You know, was the decision ever I agree, 00;09;48;01 - 00;10;03;43 Nick Clason okay. So off you go. Yeah. What's your what's your well what's your like as of today. Date of recording all that stuff like. Yeah. What do you think your future relationship with like digital and hybrid is going to I obviously yeah. 00;10;03;45 - 00;10;23;16 Nick Clason You you don't know where you're headed like I guess pie in the sky. Like what would be the hope. The hope would be to recreate this just in the north? yeah. Like I said, like, I, I think that what we're doing is working. I think, again, like, I don't think it's as much about the followers on the page. 00;10;23;16 - 00;10;44;22 Nick Clason It's more about what we're seeing in the room, you know, like, even like just seeing some of the kids drafting against each other and like, the relationships that are getting built, like, even within that, like you're getting pairs of, like two students who, like, wouldn't typically talk to each other and now they're being forced to like, draft something and like, communicate and like that can make them walk away with some form of connection. 00;10;44;27 - 00;11;09;27 Caleb Maeda And so I think those are the things that I like about what we're doing. and so I would definitely want to, to create something like that. That's like students on the page driven. Yeah. where it's all about like it's a tool to use that to build community at our, at our group. Yeah. I mean, I think like the way that I've laid out because like, what you're talking about, even two is like, your strategy is like coming at it from like a different even angle. 00;11;09;27 - 00;11;37;57 Nick Clason Yeah. So like my strategy is like, do fun and silly and stupid content to like, just get on people's feeds and get their attention. Yeah. Maybe you guys have a follow, maybe like start showing up more and more in their algorithm. Yeah. Then sprinkle in teaching content things that like are meaningful and spiritual and whatever, but then have that push them then further down the funnel to like our long form video on YouTube, which then always has like a next step. Caleb Maeda00;11;55;49 Nick Clason Yeah. Well and then like also being able to use the YouTube kind of like we did literally like on Sunday where we took the QR code to the baptism series and like that's how we're pushing kids to baptism now as they can go through that class. Like I think having that as also like a resource page on top of the other benefits has been really cool. 00;11;55;54 - 00;12;32;18 Nick Clason Yeah. But it's like, I guess what's interesting is like how you're saying, like, you see the value of digital and how it plays in the room even, you know, and like, yeah, that's a different benefit than I often even talk about. Yeah. On here. Right. Like I'm always just saying like online to like walk down the funnel, but like you're saying like even if that doesn't happen, like our current pool of students that exist, like we see them interacting and engaging with us because like, yeah, I think a lot of times digital is a process for like how to reach outsiders. 00;12;32;23 - 00;12;53;42 Caleb Maeda And you're seeing it as like, yeah, but also it can yeah, increase the experience for insiders. Yeah for sure. And like also like I mean it's also a great like invite way because you can be like, hey, the friend from school that doesn't typically go to church. When I come to church to try to be in a YouTube video, like that's also like a it's like it's multifaceted. 00;12;53;42 - 00;13;13;01 Caleb Maeda You can use it for a lot of different things. Yeah, yeah. What are some of the or have been some of the challenges of being on the or in the hybrid culture, like what has been asked of you? That has been I think it's just like the time it takes to edit videos takes away from other things that you can do. 00;13;13;05 - 00;13;39;12 Caleb Maeda and like, like obviously having a team like once we got, you know, the interns kind of cooking on drafts and stuff that lighten the load. But I felt like the first half of my residency, I would come to who's who's. Yeah. So undrafted. But yeah, but I feel like my first chunk of my residency was I would show up and I would edit and like, that was what I did, which like, good because now I can edit and like it's a skill that I can market in the future for non-church related products hiring. 00;13;39;21 - 00;14;02;51 Caleb Maeda But yeah, shout out, please help me. but so I think that phone number down in the appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. 13 of our viewers I'm poor please. My Venmo is somewhere. Yeah, yeah. But, I think that that was tough for me for a little bit just because also, like, I'm just a relationally driven person. And so like the moments like even in the office that like, Drive Me are like the conversations that I'm having with people. 00;14;02;51 - 00;14;18;38 Caleb Maeda Yeah. And so I think that was a struggle or at least an adjustment period. But also it was interesting because I went to college for music, but since it was a liberal arts school, I took a couple film classes and I like Learn Premiere in those classes already and so on. I came down here and you're like, yeah, we're going to be editing in premiere. 00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48 Caleb Maeda I was like, I know ripple, delete. I can kind of do that. And so teach people. It was a little bit of like a mixed bag of like adjustment, but also familiarity at the same time. and also just kind of like reprioritizing my schedule to see, like where things fit 00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48 Nick Clason does, does editing matter in your opinion? 00;14;42;53 - 00;15;07;12 Caleb Maeda yeah, I think it does. I think. Actually, I don't I'm not sure. I think it does. I think in, in terms of, like grabbing attention, like the fastest way to make your content more appealing without adjusting your content is just in the editing. Yeah, but you can you can make a highlight reel of, like, any NBA player and make them look good. 00;15;07;12 - 00;15;39;08 00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48 Caleb Maeda Same with like a YouTube video. Like if you've done rumors of Patrick Williams of Thunder, I really I was watching like a highlight video. I was like, this guy is as good as. Yeah. And so like, I think I think from like, like the, the online perspective of it and also like engagement in the room. Like I think back to when I was a student, if you showed me this like super yellow grainy video with like the white noise in the background, that's like almost as loud as this being, like, I would disengage almost immediately just because like, oh, this is an old video, I don't care. 00;15;39;12 - 00;15;54;56 Caleb Maeda And so I think that there's that kind of like the production value does serve a purpose, but I think that I think we can get in the weeds a little bit like for our person just because like where the yeah, where the people who are like are doing the editing. So we're like, I hate that I did this and no one would even notice. 00;15;55;09 - 00;16;10;52 Nick Clason Well, what we're talking like yesterday on stage, like the video on the, photo back to. Yeah. Like you and I could see the, like. Yeah. That the edge was a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On screen. But yeah, I don't know. But nobody noticed that before I pointed it out, I don't know, I wasn't paying. Oh not right. 00;16;10;55 - 00;16;27;02 Caleb Maeda Probably not because you didn't spend very much time on that. Yeah at all. But then like I said look you noticed that. Then there's the little thing. And like, that's just part of, I think, being an artist because like, you're never going to be perfect at your craft and like, filmmaking and editing is like an art form. Yeah. 00;16;27;06 - 00;16;43;45 Caleb Maeda Not to get all weird about it, but like, it is. And so, I think also just like not getting caught up in that, I think is important because there is a level of production value that is valuable. But I think, you know, any time we get so caught up in the production value that we're not thinking about the content, I think that's where we're going to fall into things. 00;16;43;45 - 00;17;01;32 Caleb Maeda So at the end of the day, we should be delivering good content to our kids because that's what we're here for. Yeah, I agree, but reach out to either of us if you need anything. Yeah, please. Haha. Well, aim for real. Like how much? And our lives changing. Yeah, that's also true dude. Also like starry I'm going to talk about stars. 00;17;01;36 - 00;17;18;05 Caleb Maeda Shout out to starry. I freaking love this dude and I've never even talked to him. I remember I started when I was doing the Hot Wings video. I started talking to him just like before the videos, just like, hey man, houses are gone. I love you bro. Yeah. And like, like just the ideas you need to build that connection with a dude in India is really cool. 00;17;18;05 - 00;17;31;13 Caleb Maeda Yeah. And like, you would tell me some of the things that he would say back in like, I don't know, it was just really cool to like, build that with a dude I've never actually spoken to. And the only reason that happened was because we got to a point where, like, we need someone to help us edit and we found a dude on Fiverr. 00;17;31;13 - 00;18;02;09 Nick Clason Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't tell Fiverr that we don't. I mean, to them we didn't we met him through the Google. We so so yeah. interesting. there's a lot, a lot more ministry opportunities, I think, from this than I thought there would be going into it because I thought, I thought that like, like on paper, it sounds like the ministry we're doing is we're doing it for online kids to get connected to church, to hopefully eventually come and then for our kids to have, like, content. 00;18;02;09 - 00;18;23;03 Caleb Maeda Right. But then there's like the editor who's like discovering Christianity for the first time and like asking questions and stuff. There's like the community that's being built on, like the key kids who are like trying to do the drafts, like all of that extra stuff is stuff that I didn't personally like, think about. And then when I started seeing it like those ended up being the reasons that like, drove me to keep going rather than just the content. 00;18;23;08 - 00;18;46;56 Nick Clason So what do you what do you think it will look like for you in the future, like because, you know, keeping going, whatever. Like you're quasi being forced to because you're like working and like this is what we're telling you, like, hey, you have to do. But like, yeah, soon you're going to be your own youth pastor working somewhere or for someone or whatever. 00;18;46;56 - 00;19;08;21 Caleb Maeda Like what? What things do you see yourself? Just like taking most of all of it, honestly, like the the short form, I think that was the other thing. When I came in, I wasn't as big on short form videos as I was the long form videos, just because when I grew up watching YouTube, YouTube was long form videos. 00;19;08;25 - 00;19;28;49 Caleb Maeda and so taking that and I just look at our, our Instagram reels, it's like, I know, dude, it's friggin nuts. But, yeah. And so I think I'll take a lot of that stuff, especially because, like, it's pretty easy to get a lot of content, like on a Wednesday night, just like sit down with ten kids and you can get like 5 or 6, you know. 00;19;28;54 - 00;20;02;03 Caleb Maeda And so I think that and I also I think the, the teaching videos stuff, because the there have been a couple churches that I've been looking at, and like their social media is good, but like they just clip their live preachings, which I think is awesome and great and like, that's better than nothing. But I also think that there's something about, the way that we change it for In the Room versus the, the video that I think just makes the video work a little better because we're specifically crafting that part of our message for that medium. 00;20;02;08 - 00;20;31;21 Caleb Maeda and so I think more work, it's more work, but I think that the payoff is great because also then, like, there's not like the room awkwardness, like there's not the like, con response. And then that frees us up for in the room to do things like table talk and all of that stuff. and also like, just like having your message written down in that form for the long form videos, helps you to say things that I think sometimes, like, I will drop in the room like there's if there's a little fun tidbit that, like, just isn't going to fit in the room, but I really liked it. 00;20;31;21 - 00;20;52;40 Caleb Maeda Like, I have to say it in the the long form YouTube video. So I think that there's also that kind of added value. But anything else I can think of, probably like, honestly, I probably won't be on the student ministry page as much as I was at the beginning of this. But like, I'm trying to figure out how what does it look like to start this? 00;20;52;40 - 00;21;16;41 Caleb Maeda Because like I can say on paper, I want all kids to be doing all the drafts all the time. Like if the kids are involved in like, how am I that, you know. Yeah. And so and sometimes it's helpful for them to like see examples. Yeah. And so it's kind of that like that I'm going to try to figure out how to balance that line of like setting the tone but like making sure it's, it's kid first. 00;21;16;46 - 00;21;34;25 Caleb Maeda and then also like I think finding ways to like do like not only the teaching videos, but like the baptism videos, like courses like that. I think I would also want to pull just because like, I think that that's a great resource page for them that we can pull from. For anytime a kid has questions about baptisms, you can throw them to that. 00;21;34;30 - 00;21;53;32 Nick Clason yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, you can also expand that. Like, you could even make the workshops that we've been doing into little video series, like, I don't know if there's like a lot of stuff that you can do with playlists and like with. Yeah, having the idea of it being like a course like. Yeah. And like you and I have talked about this a lot, but I think like content for content delivery. 00;21;53;32 - 00;22;09;26 Caleb Maeda I think YouTube is a better way than live preaching just because like and like again, you've talked about this all the time, but like, I don't know anybody whose primary like learning style is sit down and listen to a lecture for 30 minutes even. You can have the best graphics as you want, like you can have great table talks. 00;22;09;26 - 00;22;27;14 Caleb Maeda Like I'm not going to pull as much from that as I will from like a ten minute YouTube video with like graphics and like, I don't know, there's just something about the way our brains are wired with our shorter attention spans. I think YouTube is a great medium medium for content delivery in a way that like, we're not getting as much in the room. 00;22;27;16 - 00;22;50;28 Nick Clason Yeah, I think these days. Yeah. And I mean the again, sky's the limit. Creativity like your, your creativity or lack of creativity is you're like lid on it. So like if you have like a system like we do now where it's like you fill all your messages and everything, like you know, you can at any time play the video that, yeah, the live teaching doesn't work. 00;22;50;33 - 00;23;12;53 Nick Clason You can play the clips or like, yeah, like we're going to be gone. We were gone for like a conference earlier this year so we could just throw the video up there. Well in like next week we're gone for camp. Yeah on a Sunday. And so your video is broken up into four parts. Yeah. Questions thrown in like so that I can literally hand it off to any volunteer pastor that's back here on staff. 00;23;12;53 - 00;23;34;58 Caleb Maeda And they can do it pretty seamlessly. Like, yeah, like, yeah, the sky. And that's the thing, if you say learning happens better in like a medium like that, like almost makes you wonder and ask yourself like, how do I, how do I create a hybrid moment between the two? Like I live in the room and like a video. 00;23;35;02 - 00;24;08;05 Caleb Maeda Yeah. Where like, intersects and is like used strategically for, like a students most optimal way of learning. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know, I think it's, I think it's something that like we haven't tapped into more from like tradition and anything. And I think that school is starting to go this way a little bit like you've heard of like the flipped classroom where they like get a video and then they watch the video at home, and then they do their homework in the classroom, and then they, like, talk to the teacher and work it out in the classroom. 00;24;08;05 - 00;24;38;27 Caleb Maeda But all of the teaching is done at home through videos. Yeah. And so I think that, like, we're starting to see that shift in like the school realm. And so I think that church should be the next step. just because I think they like I've, we've been saying like, I think it's a much more effective way to deliver content to this generation, because also, like when I think about it, like I can list, you know, a couple topics from like sermons that I've listened to, but like fallout YouTube videos right now that I've been watching, like, I can pull a lot more purely from just like the amount that I can consume in a 00;24;38;27 - 00;25;00;26 Caleb Maeda sitting. Yeah. You know, like I can consume 30 minutes. Yeah, I can consume 30 minutes of YouTube content more effectively than in the room for, you know, all of those reasons. Yeah. Yeah. So all right well that's it man POG signing out. Score Vikings. Thanks for hanging some video. I'll probably be here on the screen. Yeah. Click it watch it. 00;25;00;26 - 00;25;04;35 Nick Clason Do the thing. See you next time. Love you stay hybrid. Yeah. 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00:00 A Gen Zer's Take on Hybrid Ministry
01:30 What was your first impression of Hybrid Ministry?
03:01 Did it ever feel like we were trying too hard?
03:52 What has been your relationship with digital?
06:04 What did you think of all this hybrid?
07:08 After all this: Summarize your opinion
09:50 How Digital enhances in-person
12:56 What are the challenges of a Hybrid Space?
14:38 Does Editing Really Matter?
18:54 The Most Surprising Thing from the last year
20:42 The Final Word
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;23;54
Nick Clason
Hey, what is up, everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. This is a fun, actually interview episode. So for those of you who have been watching following along over the last year or so, I've mentioned my resident, his name is Caleb. now a nickname. Call him flywheel. because he was in his residence, group Learning project, and he needed to read, from good to great.

00;00;23;54 - 00;00;42;15
Nick Clason
And he knew to read the flywheel chapter. And so I called him flywheel. and he now calls me Thunder Dog because I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan. but anyway, he's been with us for a year now, and I actually, I wanted to get his take, today, we actually said goodbye to him. we had, like, a breakfast at our house with him, my family.

00;00;42;20 - 00;00;56;20
Nick Clason
and so he's heading back home, but I want to get his take on what it was like, to work in a hybrid ministry environment. Like, you know, as a resident, you really get a lot of choices on that. And so, since he didn't get a lot of choices, I want to be like, hey, what do you think?

00;00;56;32 - 00;01;16;03
Nick Clason
What are you going to keep? What are you going to get go away from? and so I'm excited to have you kind of sit in on this interview, just conversation informal, him and I and just kind of his experience in this sort of hybrid space. So. Hope you enjoy. if this is helpful to you or anyone else that you might think, give it a like, give it a share.

00;01;16;18 - 00;01;21;23
Nick Clason
give it a subscribe. All those things are incredibly helpful to us. So without any further ado, the exclusive

00;01;21;23 - 00;01;24;25
Nick Clason
one and only Flywheel Caleb Maeda interview.

00;01;26;03 - 00;01;48;33
Nick Clason
Well, I'm here with Flywheel Maeda.

Caleb Maeda
Hey.

so I don't know, like, I don't know. You came into my world, and I told you that hybrid ministry, digital ministry, all that stuff mattered. so. So take us back.

00;01;48;35 - 00;01;53;40
Nick Clason
Take me back to when you, like, started with me at, like back in Chicago. Yeah. Well,

00;01;53;40 - 00;01;57;55
Caleb Maeda
yeah. So back in Chicago is like my first church job. Like in general.

00;01;58;50 - 00;02;11;09
Caleb Maeda
so I wasn't really sure how anything worked. So I think that really started, like, my mind set on, like, hybrid ministry because, like, I didn't have any previous, like, things I was holding on to, like, I had. youth group that I grew up in, but it was pretty different. And also coming out of like the pandemic. yeah. Like it like made sense. And then when I saw it working and like I saw because like the model that you guys used with like the connect groups that like, met in the homes and then watched it and like, interact with it. I thought that was like super cool. And so then also getting to like work on that show and like helped produce a little bit and like run some of this stuff like I like immediately saw the value and also like, like just being a younger person. Like I grew up watching YouTube like like the people that I like, loved growing up or like YouTubers and so like the value of that platform with this generation. I think I also kind of related to and so like from the get go, I was kind of brought in, I was like, yeah, this is legit, I agree. I mean.

00;02;58;06 - 00;03;03;59
Nick Clason
Did you ever, did you ever feel like, oh, these guys are trying to be YouTubers and they're old?

00;03;08;22 - 00;03;23;42
Caleb Maeda
No, because I think at the time it was honestly like the stuff that I was working on at Parkview is like the search for Chuck the duck that summer. And so, like, it was not stupid enough, but it was it was stupid enough that it was like these guys, like, they're clearly not doing this for clout. Like, I don't know any 30 year old man who's like, you know, it'd be really cool searching for a fake rubber duck for an entire summer, you know? And so I never I never got that kind of vibe just because of the nature of what we were doing.

00;03;35;15 - 00;03;42;54
Nick Clason
Yeah. Okay, so then you, after your time with us in Chicago, you go and you work at your home church for a little bit, right? And just interning? Yeah, mostly in the arena of worship.

00;03;50;12 - 00;04;05;10
Caleb Maeda
No, I was is youth for the first school year, and then it was worship the second school year. What was their relationship with digital social media hybrid? I mean, so they're they're your typical like evangelical covenant, like multi-site church. So they're like they're with it, but they're not sure

00;04;05;19 - 00;04;24;37
Nick Clason
I wonder how many evangelical covenant multi-site churches or like you say, typical.

00;04;24;12 - 00;04;38;10
Caleb Maeda
I actually don't know. It's a thing in Minnesota, I guess, from where I grew up. But, so they do have a value of social media, but they're not quite as consistent like they don't have, I don't think. And granted, when I was there, their social media platform was we didn't have students over Christmas break. So like, let's make something fun. And like that was it other than like announcements for events and stuff. Yeah. And now these days it's a little bit more like, you know, the trends where like, you see a guy, like, fall off a stretcher and then it's someone rolling and say, like, you should get to like, you know, those classes.

00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21
Nick Clason
I think you need only do some of this.

00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21
Caleb Maeda
I saw one the other day. We should do. but so like, they've started doing some more of that stuff in the past year or so. And so I think it's, it's done an uptick, but it's not as fleshed out as, like what we're doing here of like two posts a day, you know, that kind of, yeah.

00;04;54;26 - 00;05;18;11
Caleb Maeda
And they don't like a good day. Yeah. And they don't they don't do, like, fun content, like drafts or like things like that. The students other than, like pictures for, like recaps of events and stuff, they're not super on the pages. It's mostly like announcement based stuff. Yeah, yeah. Which like is a is a pretty like standard operating procedure for like churches and social media.

00;05;18;12 - 00;05;24;09
Nick Clason
Yeah. have a whole video linked right here about, you should also be posting announcements.

00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40
Caleb Maeda
You Should link to Parkview one to like, I only saw one at a time.

00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40
Nick Clason
I can only do one. We have it. We did it. We did.

00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36
Caleb Maeda
Really? Yeah. I didn't know that.

00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36
Nick Clason
I know you didn't. That's why you link to, like, three times in your last teaching video.

00;05;36;40 - 00;05;51;29
Nick Clason
Don't worry about this link to it here. This link I thought you could. You get one. You get one card per video. There you go. I didn't know that YouTube. I didn't know that one. I'm getting exposed right now. I thought I'd never mind. It's like we can talk about that later, but, Okay, so then

00;05;51;29 - 00;05;55;43
Nick Clason
then you come here and we are.

00;05;55;47 - 00;05;57;55
Nick Clason
What we're doing is very different.

00;05;57;55 - 00;06;09;14
Nick Clason
the Parkview one, by the way. I'll link it down in the description. You can watch it. It's like the 100th episode. 100th episode. How it all started. It's pretty pog. Yeah, I think it was a good one. It was a good one. but anyway,

00;06;09;14 - 00;06;12;23
Nick Clason
you come down here and it's different.

00;06;12;28 - 00;06;26;51
Nick Clason
Put it, put aside your people pleasing nature. Like, just give me the raw, unfiltered, like, what do you think?

00;06;26;51 - 00;06;48;29
Caleb Maeda
I mean, again, like, I, I agreed with what we were doing because I think of my experience at Parkview. I think for me, once we started doing or like trying to make students on the page more of a priority, that was kind of the shift that I was more on board with just because like, yeah, like the the one I struggled with the most were those like the no, it or not dancing TikToks that we did, I freaking I like I'm not a dancer, so I hated them, but like, I hated them cause I

00;06;48;29 - 00;07;14;43
Nick Clason
was not a dancer. Not for like strategy reasons. but once we started getting students on the page, I think that was where I started feeling like, yeah, we're doing something that, like, is cool. so yeah, yeah, that was kind of my first. So, you are heading, like off on your own at some point. At some point we don't know what's next.

00;07;14;48 - 00;07;37;26
Nick Clason
Yeah. But like, what are your thoughts on, like. All right, I'm about to be my own youth pastor, and I just did a, summer internship and then a full year long residency, with, church and youth pastors who are fully bought into, like, digital, like. Yeah. First of all, summarize your opinion

00;07;37;26 - 00;07;40;47
Nick Clason
like, you just you gave a lot of different like examples of like summarize like, yeah.

00;07;40;51 - 00;07;44;10
Nick Clason
Do you think it's like worth it valuable.

00;07;44;10 - 00;07;50;41
Nick Clason
And then like how would you yeah. How would you tell people like here's how it's working on

00;07;50;41 - 00;07;57;25
Nick Clason
like the inside of it because like, you know, if anyone follows me or listen to my stuff like they hear me reference it, talk about what we do.

00;07;57;25 - 00;08;00;45
Nick Clason
But like, you got to see, like, firsthand and like, just be honest.

00;08;00;45 - 00;08;05;52
Nick Clason
Like, are you like, I don't know, I don't know if it's working or not. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think the

00;08;05;52 - 00;08;25;31
Caleb Maeda
things that have been working the most has been getting students involved on the page, not even in terms of like on the page traction as much as like in person traction, because I think I think like with the social challenge that we did with the Hot Wings thing that we did like, it was a lot of kids saying like, hey, how can I be on screen?

00;08;25;41 - 00;08;38;03
Caleb Maeda
You know, this is what it was. It was how can I what can I do? Yeah. And like, well, that shouldn't be your only motivation to like, do these things. I think it lended itself great to increasing like the desire to like, serve

00;08;38;03 - 00;08;56;03
Caleb Maeda
or like well and like there, like you said, like what's normal to them. Yeah. Like and the option to like be on social media or be on YouTube is like a little bit, well, because like, I remember growing up and like seeing all my favorite YouTubers and thinking like, man, I wish I could do that, but I don't know how to do this.

00;08;56;03 - 00;09;24;01
Caleb Maeda
I don't know how to do this. And so I think it's a really great way for students to even live that little piece of them who, like, they don't know how to set up a studio. They don't know what lights are. Yeah, I don't know what that is. that's Jake. Yeah it is. Jake. Shout out to Jake I love you, but, like they it's it's an experience for them to get to like, live that out a little bit and then also do it in like a safe context where like, it's like, I don't know, it's safe for the family content.

00;09;24;01 - 00;09;39;47
Caleb Maeda
Like I think also just like the opportunity, the whole family. Yeah. It is like the opportunity to just like replace one video, I think in a kids feed is like a win in my opinion, because of just like the nature of social media, you know, like we can get into the whole of like comparing our lives and stuff.

00;09;39;49 - 00;09;48;01
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. Or like we can watch stupid people draft like, pizza toppings and pick Palios number one. Yeah. You know, was the decision ever I agree,

00;09;48;01 - 00;10;03;43
Nick Clason
okay. So off you go. Yeah. What's your what's your well what's your like as of today. Date of recording all that stuff like. Yeah. What do you think your future relationship with like digital and hybrid is going to I obviously yeah.

00;10;03;45 - 00;10;23;16
Nick Clason
You you don't know where you're headed like I guess pie in the sky. Like what would be the hope. The hope would be to recreate this just in the north? yeah. Like I said, like, I, I think that what we're doing is working. I think, again, like, I don't think it's as much about the followers on the page.

00;10;23;16 - 00;10;44;22
Nick Clason
It's more about what we're seeing in the room, you know, like, even like just seeing some of the kids drafting against each other and like, the relationships that are getting built, like, even within that, like you're getting pairs of, like two students who, like, wouldn't typically talk to each other and now they're being forced to like, draft something and like, communicate and like that can make them walk away with some form of connection.

00;10;44;27 - 00;11;09;27
Caleb Maeda
And so I think those are the things that I like about what we're doing. and so I would definitely want to, to create something like that. That's like students on the page driven. Yeah. where it's all about like it's a tool to use that to build community at our, at our group. Yeah. I mean, I think like the way that I've laid out because like, what you're talking about, even two is like, your strategy is like coming at it from like a different even angle.

00;11;09;27 - 00;11;37;57
Nick Clason
Yeah. So like my strategy is like, do fun and silly and stupid content to like, just get on people's feeds and get their attention. Yeah. Maybe you guys have a follow, maybe like start showing up more and more in their algorithm. Yeah. Then sprinkle in teaching content things that like are meaningful and spiritual and whatever, but then have that push them then further down the funnel to like our long form video on YouTube, which then always has like a next step.

Caleb Maeda00;11;55;49
Nick Clason
Yeah. Well and then like also being able to use the YouTube kind of like we did literally like on Sunday where we took the QR code to the baptism series and like that's how we're pushing kids to baptism now as they can go through that class. Like I think having that as also like a resource page on top of the other benefits has been really cool.

00;11;55;54 - 00;12;32;18
Nick Clason
Yeah. But it's like, I guess what's interesting is like how you're saying, like, you see the value of digital and how it plays in the room even, you know, and like, yeah, that's a different benefit than I often even talk about. Yeah. On here. Right. Like I'm always just saying like online to like walk down the funnel, but like you're saying like even if that doesn't happen, like our current pool of students that exist, like we see them interacting and engaging with us because like, yeah, I think a lot of times digital is a process for like how to reach outsiders.

00;12;32;23 - 00;12;53;42
Caleb Maeda
And you're seeing it as like, yeah, but also it can yeah, increase the experience for insiders. Yeah for sure. And like also like I mean it's also a great like invite way because you can be like, hey, the friend from school that doesn't typically go to church. When I come to church to try to be in a YouTube video, like that's also like a it's like it's multifaceted.

00;12;53;42 - 00;13;13;01
Caleb Maeda
You can use it for a lot of different things. Yeah, yeah. What are some of the or have been some of the challenges of being on the or in the hybrid culture, like what has been asked of you? That has been I think it's just like the time it takes to edit videos takes away from other things that you can do.

00;13;13;05 - 00;13;39;12
Caleb Maeda
and like, like obviously having a team like once we got, you know, the interns kind of cooking on drafts and stuff that lighten the load. But I felt like the first half of my residency, I would come to who's who's. Yeah. So undrafted. But yeah, but I feel like my first chunk of my residency was I would show up and I would edit and like, that was what I did, which like, good because now I can edit and like it's a skill that I can market in the future for non-church related products hiring.

00;13;39;21 - 00;14;02;51
Caleb Maeda
But yeah, shout out, please help me. but so I think that phone number down in the appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. 13 of our viewers I'm poor please. My Venmo is somewhere. Yeah, yeah. But, I think that that was tough for me for a little bit just because also, like, I'm just a relationally driven person. And so like the moments like even in the office that like, Drive Me are like the conversations that I'm having with people.

00;14;02;51 - 00;14;18;38
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. And so I think that was a struggle or at least an adjustment period. But also it was interesting because I went to college for music, but since it was a liberal arts school, I took a couple film classes and I like Learn Premiere in those classes already and so on. I came down here and you're like, yeah, we're going to be editing in premiere.

00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Caleb Maeda
I was like, I know ripple, delete. I can kind of do that. And so teach people. It was a little bit of like a mixed bag of like adjustment, but also familiarity at the same time. and also just kind of like reprioritizing my schedule to see, like where things fit

00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Nick Clason
does, does editing matter in your opinion?

00;14;42;53 - 00;15;07;12
Caleb Maeda
yeah, I think it does. I think. Actually, I don't I'm not sure. I think it does. I think in, in terms of, like grabbing attention, like the fastest way to make your content more appealing without adjusting your content is just in the editing. Yeah, but you can you can make a highlight reel of, like, any NBA player and make them look good.

00;15;07;12 - 00;15;39;08
00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Caleb Maeda
Same with like a YouTube video. Like if you've done rumors of Patrick Williams of Thunder, I really I was watching like a highlight video. I was like, this guy is as good as. Yeah. And so like, I think I think from like, like the, the online perspective of it and also like engagement in the room. Like I think back to when I was a student, if you showed me this like super yellow grainy video with like the white noise in the background, that's like almost as loud as this being, like, I would disengage almost immediately just because like, oh, this is an old video, I don't care.

00;15;39;12 - 00;15;54;56
Caleb Maeda
And so I think that there's that kind of like the production value does serve a purpose, but I think that I think we can get in the weeds a little bit like for our person just because like where the yeah, where the people who are like are doing the editing. So we're like, I hate that I did this and no one would even notice.

00;15;55;09 - 00;16;10;52
Nick Clason
Well, what we're talking like yesterday on stage, like the video on the, photo back to. Yeah. Like you and I could see the, like. Yeah. That the edge was a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On screen. But yeah, I don't know. But nobody noticed that before I pointed it out, I don't know, I wasn't paying. Oh not right.

00;16;10;55 - 00;16;27;02
Caleb Maeda
Probably not because you didn't spend very much time on that. Yeah at all. But then like I said look you noticed that. Then there's the little thing. And like, that's just part of, I think, being an artist because like, you're never going to be perfect at your craft and like, filmmaking and editing is like an art form. Yeah.

00;16;27;06 - 00;16;43;45
Caleb Maeda
Not to get all weird about it, but like, it is. And so, I think also just like not getting caught up in that, I think is important because there is a level of production value that is valuable. But I think, you know, any time we get so caught up in the production value that we're not thinking about the content, I think that's where we're going to fall into things.

00;16;43;45 - 00;17;01;32
Caleb Maeda
So at the end of the day, we should be delivering good content to our kids because that's what we're here for. Yeah, I agree, but reach out to either of us if you need anything. Yeah, please. Haha. Well, aim for real. Like how much? And our lives changing. Yeah, that's also true dude. Also like starry I'm going to talk about stars.

00;17;01;36 - 00;17;18;05
Caleb Maeda
Shout out to starry. I freaking love this dude and I've never even talked to him. I remember I started when I was doing the Hot Wings video. I started talking to him just like before the videos, just like, hey man, houses are gone. I love you bro. Yeah. And like, like just the ideas you need to build that connection with a dude in India is really cool.

00;17;18;05 - 00;17;31;13
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. And like, you would tell me some of the things that he would say back in like, I don't know, it was just really cool to like, build that with a dude I've never actually spoken to. And the only reason that happened was because we got to a point where, like, we need someone to help us edit and we found a dude on Fiverr.

00;17;31;13 - 00;18;02;09
Nick Clason
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't tell Fiverr that we don't. I mean, to them we didn't we met him through the Google. We so so yeah. interesting. there's a lot, a lot more ministry opportunities, I think, from this than I thought there would be going into it because I thought, I thought that like, like on paper, it sounds like the ministry we're doing is we're doing it for online kids to get connected to church, to hopefully eventually come and then for our kids to have, like, content.

00;18;02;09 - 00;18;23;03
Caleb Maeda
Right. But then there's like the editor who's like discovering Christianity for the first time and like asking questions and stuff. There's like the community that's being built on, like the key kids who are like trying to do the drafts, like all of that extra stuff is stuff that I didn't personally like, think about. And then when I started seeing it like those ended up being the reasons that like, drove me to keep going rather than just the content.

00;18;23;08 - 00;18;46;56
Nick Clason
So what do you what do you think it will look like for you in the future, like because, you know, keeping going, whatever. Like you're quasi being forced to because you're like working and like this is what we're telling you, like, hey, you have to do. But like, yeah, soon you're going to be your own youth pastor working somewhere or for someone or whatever.

00;18;46;56 - 00;19;08;21
Caleb Maeda
Like what? What things do you see yourself? Just like taking most of all of it, honestly, like the the short form, I think that was the other thing. When I came in, I wasn't as big on short form videos as I was the long form videos, just because when I grew up watching YouTube, YouTube was long form videos.

00;19;08;25 - 00;19;28;49
Caleb Maeda
and so taking that and I just look at our, our Instagram reels, it's like, I know, dude, it's friggin nuts. But, yeah. And so I think I'll take a lot of that stuff, especially because, like, it's pretty easy to get a lot of content, like on a Wednesday night, just like sit down with ten kids and you can get like 5 or 6, you know.

00;19;28;54 - 00;20;02;03
Caleb Maeda
And so I think that and I also I think the, the teaching videos stuff, because the there have been a couple churches that I've been looking at, and like their social media is good, but like they just clip their live preachings, which I think is awesome and great and like, that's better than nothing. But I also think that there's something about, the way that we change it for In the Room versus the, the video that I think just makes the video work a little better because we're specifically crafting that part of our message for that medium.

00;20;02;08 - 00;20;31;21
Caleb Maeda
and so I think more work, it's more work, but I think that the payoff is great because also then, like, there's not like the room awkwardness, like there's not the like, con response. And then that frees us up for in the room to do things like table talk and all of that stuff. and also like, just like having your message written down in that form for the long form videos, helps you to say things that I think sometimes, like, I will drop in the room like there's if there's a little fun tidbit that, like, just isn't going to fit in the room, but I really liked it.

00;20;31;21 - 00;20;52;40
Caleb Maeda
Like, I have to say it in the the long form YouTube video. So I think that there's also that kind of added value. But anything else I can think of, probably like, honestly, I probably won't be on the student ministry page as much as I was at the beginning of this. But like, I'm trying to figure out how what does it look like to start this?

00;20;52;40 - 00;21;16;41
Caleb Maeda
Because like I can say on paper, I want all kids to be doing all the drafts all the time. Like if the kids are involved in like, how am I that, you know. Yeah. And so and sometimes it's helpful for them to like see examples. Yeah. And so it's kind of that like that I'm going to try to figure out how to balance that line of like setting the tone but like making sure it's, it's kid first.

00;21;16;46 - 00;21;34;25
Caleb Maeda
and then also like I think finding ways to like do like not only the teaching videos, but like the baptism videos, like courses like that. I think I would also want to pull just because like, I think that that's a great resource page for them that we can pull from. For anytime a kid has questions about baptisms, you can throw them to that.

00;21;34;30 - 00;21;53;32
Nick Clason
yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, you can also expand that. Like, you could even make the workshops that we've been doing into little video series, like, I don't know if there's like a lot of stuff that you can do with playlists and like with. Yeah, having the idea of it being like a course like. Yeah. And like you and I have talked about this a lot, but I think like content for content delivery.

00;21;53;32 - 00;22;09;26
Caleb Maeda
I think YouTube is a better way than live preaching just because like and like again, you've talked about this all the time, but like, I don't know anybody whose primary like learning style is sit down and listen to a lecture for 30 minutes even. You can have the best graphics as you want, like you can have great table talks.

00;22;09;26 - 00;22;27;14
Caleb Maeda
Like I'm not going to pull as much from that as I will from like a ten minute YouTube video with like graphics and like, I don't know, there's just something about the way our brains are wired with our shorter attention spans. I think YouTube is a great medium medium for content delivery in a way that like, we're not getting as much in the room.

00;22;27;16 - 00;22;50;28
Nick Clason
Yeah, I think these days. Yeah. And I mean the again, sky's the limit. Creativity like your, your creativity or lack of creativity is you're like lid on it. So like if you have like a system like we do now where it's like you fill all your messages and everything, like you know, you can at any time play the video that, yeah, the live teaching doesn't work.

00;22;50;33 - 00;23;12;53
Nick Clason
You can play the clips or like, yeah, like we're going to be gone. We were gone for like a conference earlier this year so we could just throw the video up there. Well in like next week we're gone for camp. Yeah on a Sunday. And so your video is broken up into four parts. Yeah. Questions thrown in like so that I can literally hand it off to any volunteer pastor that's back here on staff.

00;23;12;53 - 00;23;34;58
Caleb Maeda
And they can do it pretty seamlessly. Like, yeah, like, yeah, the sky. And that's the thing, if you say learning happens better in like a medium like that, like almost makes you wonder and ask yourself like, how do I, how do I create a hybrid moment between the two? Like I live in the room and like a video.

00;23;35;02 - 00;24;08;05
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. Where like, intersects and is like used strategically for, like a students most optimal way of learning. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know, I think it's, I think it's something that like we haven't tapped into more from like tradition and anything. And I think that school is starting to go this way a little bit like you've heard of like the flipped classroom where they like get a video and then they watch the video at home, and then they do their homework in the classroom, and then they, like, talk to the teacher and work it out in the classroom.

00;24;08;05 - 00;24;38;27
Caleb Maeda
But all of the teaching is done at home through videos. Yeah. And so I think that, like, we're starting to see that shift in like the school realm. And so I think that church should be the next step. just because I think they like I've, we've been saying like, I think it's a much more effective way to deliver content to this generation, because also, like when I think about it, like I can list, you know, a couple topics from like sermons that I've listened to, but like fallout YouTube videos right now that I've been watching, like, I can pull a lot more purely from just like the amount that I can consume in a

00;24;38;27 - 00;25;00;26
Caleb Maeda
sitting. Yeah. You know, like I can consume 30 minutes. Yeah, I can consume 30 minutes of YouTube content more effectively than in the room for, you know, all of those reasons. Yeah. Yeah. So all right well that's it man POG signing out. Score Vikings. Thanks for hanging some video. I'll probably be here on the screen. Yeah. Click it watch it.

00;25;00;26 - 00;25;04;35
Nick Clason
Do the thing. See you next time. Love you stay hybrid. Yeah. Nice.

00;25;05;36 - 00;25;08;28
Nick Clason
I gotta pee. Okay,

00;25;09;49 - 00;25;13;02
Caleb Maeda
Oh.

00;25;13;24 - 00;25;18;35
Nick Clason
I can't wait to hear that. Nice.

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01:30 What was your first impression of Hybrid Ministry?
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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;23;54
Nick Clason
Hey, what is up, everybody? Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. This is a fun, actually interview episode. So for those of you who have been watching following along over the last year or so, I've mentioned my resident, his name is Caleb. now a nickname. Call him flywheel. because he was in his residence, group Learning project, and he needed to read, from good to great.

00;00;23;54 - 00;00;42;15
Nick Clason
And he knew to read the flywheel chapter. And so I called him flywheel. and he now calls me Thunder Dog because I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan. but anyway, he's been with us for a year now, and I actually, I wanted to get his take, today, we actually said goodbye to him. we had, like, a breakfast at our house with him, my family.

00;00;42;20 - 00;00;56;20
Nick Clason
and so he's heading back home, but I want to get his take on what it was like, to work in a hybrid ministry environment. Like, you know, as a resident, you really get a lot of choices on that. And so, since he didn't get a lot of choices, I want to be like, hey, what do you think?

00;00;56;32 - 00;01;16;03
Nick Clason
What are you going to keep? What are you going to get go away from? and so I'm excited to have you kind of sit in on this interview, just conversation informal, him and I and just kind of his experience in this sort of hybrid space. So. Hope you enjoy. if this is helpful to you or anyone else that you might think, give it a like, give it a share.

00;01;16;18 - 00;01;21;23
Nick Clason
give it a subscribe. All those things are incredibly helpful to us. So without any further ado, the exclusive

00;01;21;23 - 00;01;24;25
Nick Clason
one and only Flywheel Caleb Maeda interview.

00;01;26;03 - 00;01;48;33
Nick Clason
Well, I'm here with Flywheel Maeda.

Caleb Maeda
Hey.

so I don't know, like, I don't know. You came into my world, and I told you that hybrid ministry, digital ministry, all that stuff mattered. so. So take us back.

00;01;48;35 - 00;01;53;40
Nick Clason
Take me back to when you, like, started with me at, like back in Chicago. Yeah. Well,

00;01;53;40 - 00;01;57;55
Caleb Maeda
yeah. So back in Chicago is like my first church job. Like in general.

00;01;58;50 - 00;02;11;09
Caleb Maeda
so I wasn't really sure how anything worked. So I think that really started, like, my mind set on, like, hybrid ministry because, like, I didn't have any previous, like, things I was holding on to, like, I had. youth group that I grew up in, but it was pretty different. And also coming out of like the pandemic. yeah. Like it like made sense. And then when I saw it working and like I saw because like the model that you guys used with like the connect groups that like, met in the homes and then watched it and like, interact with it. I thought that was like super cool. And so then also getting to like work on that show and like helped produce a little bit and like run some of this stuff like I like immediately saw the value and also like, like just being a younger person. Like I grew up watching YouTube like like the people that I like, loved growing up or like YouTubers and so like the value of that platform with this generation. I think I also kind of related to and so like from the get go, I was kind of brought in, I was like, yeah, this is legit, I agree. I mean.

00;02;58;06 - 00;03;03;59
Nick Clason
Did you ever, did you ever feel like, oh, these guys are trying to be YouTubers and they're old?

00;03;08;22 - 00;03;23;42
Caleb Maeda
No, because I think at the time it was honestly like the stuff that I was working on at Parkview is like the search for Chuck the duck that summer. And so, like, it was not stupid enough, but it was it was stupid enough that it was like these guys, like, they're clearly not doing this for clout. Like, I don't know any 30 year old man who's like, you know, it'd be really cool searching for a fake rubber duck for an entire summer, you know? And so I never I never got that kind of vibe just because of the nature of what we were doing.

00;03;35;15 - 00;03;42;54
Nick Clason
Yeah. Okay, so then you, after your time with us in Chicago, you go and you work at your home church for a little bit, right? And just interning? Yeah, mostly in the arena of worship.

00;03;50;12 - 00;04;05;10
Caleb Maeda
No, I was is youth for the first school year, and then it was worship the second school year. What was their relationship with digital social media hybrid? I mean, so they're they're your typical like evangelical covenant, like multi-site church. So they're like they're with it, but they're not sure

00;04;05;19 - 00;04;24;37
Nick Clason
I wonder how many evangelical covenant multi-site churches or like you say, typical.

00;04;24;12 - 00;04;38;10
Caleb Maeda
I actually don't know. It's a thing in Minnesota, I guess, from where I grew up. But, so they do have a value of social media, but they're not quite as consistent like they don't have, I don't think. And granted, when I was there, their social media platform was we didn't have students over Christmas break. So like, let's make something fun. And like that was it other than like announcements for events and stuff. Yeah. And now these days it's a little bit more like, you know, the trends where like, you see a guy, like, fall off a stretcher and then it's someone rolling and say, like, you should get to like, you know, those classes.

00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21
Nick Clason
I think you need only do some of this.

00;04;38;13 - 00;04;54;21
Caleb Maeda
I saw one the other day. We should do. but so like, they've started doing some more of that stuff in the past year or so. And so I think it's, it's done an uptick, but it's not as fleshed out as, like what we're doing here of like two posts a day, you know, that kind of, yeah.

00;04;54;26 - 00;05;18;11
Caleb Maeda
And they don't like a good day. Yeah. And they don't they don't do, like, fun content, like drafts or like things like that. The students other than, like pictures for, like recaps of events and stuff, they're not super on the pages. It's mostly like announcement based stuff. Yeah, yeah. Which like is a is a pretty like standard operating procedure for like churches and social media.

00;05;18;12 - 00;05;24;09
Nick Clason
Yeah. have a whole video linked right here about, you should also be posting announcements.

00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40
Caleb Maeda
You Should link to Parkview one to like, I only saw one at a time.

00;05;24;09 - 00;05;33;40
Nick Clason
I can only do one. We have it. We did it. We did.

00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36
Caleb Maeda
Really? Yeah. I didn't know that.

00;05;33;40 - 00;05;36;36
Nick Clason
I know you didn't. That's why you link to, like, three times in your last teaching video.

00;05;36;40 - 00;05;51;29
Nick Clason
Don't worry about this link to it here. This link I thought you could. You get one. You get one card per video. There you go. I didn't know that YouTube. I didn't know that one. I'm getting exposed right now. I thought I'd never mind. It's like we can talk about that later, but, Okay, so then

00;05;51;29 - 00;05;55;43
Nick Clason
then you come here and we are.

00;05;55;47 - 00;05;57;55
Nick Clason
What we're doing is very different.

00;05;57;55 - 00;06;09;14
Nick Clason
the Parkview one, by the way. I'll link it down in the description. You can watch it. It's like the 100th episode. 100th episode. How it all started. It's pretty pog. Yeah, I think it was a good one. It was a good one. but anyway,

00;06;09;14 - 00;06;12;23
Nick Clason
you come down here and it's different.

00;06;12;28 - 00;06;26;51
Nick Clason
Put it, put aside your people pleasing nature. Like, just give me the raw, unfiltered, like, what do you think?

00;06;26;51 - 00;06;48;29
Caleb Maeda
I mean, again, like, I, I agreed with what we were doing because I think of my experience at Parkview. I think for me, once we started doing or like trying to make students on the page more of a priority, that was kind of the shift that I was more on board with just because like, yeah, like the the one I struggled with the most were those like the no, it or not dancing TikToks that we did, I freaking I like I'm not a dancer, so I hated them, but like, I hated them cause I

00;06;48;29 - 00;07;14;43
Nick Clason
was not a dancer. Not for like strategy reasons. but once we started getting students on the page, I think that was where I started feeling like, yeah, we're doing something that, like, is cool. so yeah, yeah, that was kind of my first. So, you are heading, like off on your own at some point. At some point we don't know what's next.

00;07;14;48 - 00;07;37;26
Nick Clason
Yeah. But like, what are your thoughts on, like. All right, I'm about to be my own youth pastor, and I just did a, summer internship and then a full year long residency, with, church and youth pastors who are fully bought into, like, digital, like. Yeah. First of all, summarize your opinion

00;07;37;26 - 00;07;40;47
Nick Clason
like, you just you gave a lot of different like examples of like summarize like, yeah.

00;07;40;51 - 00;07;44;10
Nick Clason
Do you think it's like worth it valuable.

00;07;44;10 - 00;07;50;41
Nick Clason
And then like how would you yeah. How would you tell people like here's how it's working on

00;07;50;41 - 00;07;57;25
Nick Clason
like the inside of it because like, you know, if anyone follows me or listen to my stuff like they hear me reference it, talk about what we do.

00;07;57;25 - 00;08;00;45
Nick Clason
But like, you got to see, like, firsthand and like, just be honest.

00;08;00;45 - 00;08;05;52
Nick Clason
Like, are you like, I don't know, I don't know if it's working or not. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think the

00;08;05;52 - 00;08;25;31
Caleb Maeda
things that have been working the most has been getting students involved on the page, not even in terms of like on the page traction as much as like in person traction, because I think I think like with the social challenge that we did with the Hot Wings thing that we did like, it was a lot of kids saying like, hey, how can I be on screen?

00;08;25;41 - 00;08;38;03
Caleb Maeda
You know, this is what it was. It was how can I what can I do? Yeah. And like, well, that shouldn't be your only motivation to like, do these things. I think it lended itself great to increasing like the desire to like, serve

00;08;38;03 - 00;08;56;03
Caleb Maeda
or like well and like there, like you said, like what's normal to them. Yeah. Like and the option to like be on social media or be on YouTube is like a little bit, well, because like, I remember growing up and like seeing all my favorite YouTubers and thinking like, man, I wish I could do that, but I don't know how to do this.

00;08;56;03 - 00;09;24;01
Caleb Maeda
I don't know how to do this. And so I think it's a really great way for students to even live that little piece of them who, like, they don't know how to set up a studio. They don't know what lights are. Yeah, I don't know what that is. that's Jake. Yeah it is. Jake. Shout out to Jake I love you, but, like they it's it's an experience for them to get to like, live that out a little bit and then also do it in like a safe context where like, it's like, I don't know, it's safe for the family content.

00;09;24;01 - 00;09;39;47
Caleb Maeda
Like I think also just like the opportunity, the whole family. Yeah. It is like the opportunity to just like replace one video, I think in a kids feed is like a win in my opinion, because of just like the nature of social media, you know, like we can get into the whole of like comparing our lives and stuff.

00;09;39;49 - 00;09;48;01
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. Or like we can watch stupid people draft like, pizza toppings and pick Palios number one. Yeah. You know, was the decision ever I agree,

00;09;48;01 - 00;10;03;43
Nick Clason
okay. So off you go. Yeah. What's your what's your well what's your like as of today. Date of recording all that stuff like. Yeah. What do you think your future relationship with like digital and hybrid is going to I obviously yeah.

00;10;03;45 - 00;10;23;16
Nick Clason
You you don't know where you're headed like I guess pie in the sky. Like what would be the hope. The hope would be to recreate this just in the north? yeah. Like I said, like, I, I think that what we're doing is working. I think, again, like, I don't think it's as much about the followers on the page.

00;10;23;16 - 00;10;44;22
Nick Clason
It's more about what we're seeing in the room, you know, like, even like just seeing some of the kids drafting against each other and like, the relationships that are getting built, like, even within that, like you're getting pairs of, like two students who, like, wouldn't typically talk to each other and now they're being forced to like, draft something and like, communicate and like that can make them walk away with some form of connection.

00;10;44;27 - 00;11;09;27
Caleb Maeda
And so I think those are the things that I like about what we're doing. and so I would definitely want to, to create something like that. That's like students on the page driven. Yeah. where it's all about like it's a tool to use that to build community at our, at our group. Yeah. I mean, I think like the way that I've laid out because like, what you're talking about, even two is like, your strategy is like coming at it from like a different even angle.

00;11;09;27 - 00;11;37;57
Nick Clason
Yeah. So like my strategy is like, do fun and silly and stupid content to like, just get on people's feeds and get their attention. Yeah. Maybe you guys have a follow, maybe like start showing up more and more in their algorithm. Yeah. Then sprinkle in teaching content things that like are meaningful and spiritual and whatever, but then have that push them then further down the funnel to like our long form video on YouTube, which then always has like a next step.

Caleb Maeda00;11;55;49
Nick Clason
Yeah. Well and then like also being able to use the YouTube kind of like we did literally like on Sunday where we took the QR code to the baptism series and like that's how we're pushing kids to baptism now as they can go through that class. Like I think having that as also like a resource page on top of the other benefits has been really cool.

00;11;55;54 - 00;12;32;18
Nick Clason
Yeah. But it's like, I guess what's interesting is like how you're saying, like, you see the value of digital and how it plays in the room even, you know, and like, yeah, that's a different benefit than I often even talk about. Yeah. On here. Right. Like I'm always just saying like online to like walk down the funnel, but like you're saying like even if that doesn't happen, like our current pool of students that exist, like we see them interacting and engaging with us because like, yeah, I think a lot of times digital is a process for like how to reach outsiders.

00;12;32;23 - 00;12;53;42
Caleb Maeda
And you're seeing it as like, yeah, but also it can yeah, increase the experience for insiders. Yeah for sure. And like also like I mean it's also a great like invite way because you can be like, hey, the friend from school that doesn't typically go to church. When I come to church to try to be in a YouTube video, like that's also like a it's like it's multifaceted.

00;12;53;42 - 00;13;13;01
Caleb Maeda
You can use it for a lot of different things. Yeah, yeah. What are some of the or have been some of the challenges of being on the or in the hybrid culture, like what has been asked of you? That has been I think it's just like the time it takes to edit videos takes away from other things that you can do.

00;13;13;05 - 00;13;39;12
Caleb Maeda
and like, like obviously having a team like once we got, you know, the interns kind of cooking on drafts and stuff that lighten the load. But I felt like the first half of my residency, I would come to who's who's. Yeah. So undrafted. But yeah, but I feel like my first chunk of my residency was I would show up and I would edit and like, that was what I did, which like, good because now I can edit and like it's a skill that I can market in the future for non-church related products hiring.

00;13;39;21 - 00;14;02;51
Caleb Maeda
But yeah, shout out, please help me. but so I think that phone number down in the appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. 13 of our viewers I'm poor please. My Venmo is somewhere. Yeah, yeah. But, I think that that was tough for me for a little bit just because also, like, I'm just a relationally driven person. And so like the moments like even in the office that like, Drive Me are like the conversations that I'm having with people.

00;14;02;51 - 00;14;18;38
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. And so I think that was a struggle or at least an adjustment period. But also it was interesting because I went to college for music, but since it was a liberal arts school, I took a couple film classes and I like Learn Premiere in those classes already and so on. I came down here and you're like, yeah, we're going to be editing in premiere.

00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Caleb Maeda
I was like, I know ripple, delete. I can kind of do that. And so teach people. It was a little bit of like a mixed bag of like adjustment, but also familiarity at the same time. and also just kind of like reprioritizing my schedule to see, like where things fit

00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Nick Clason
does, does editing matter in your opinion?

00;14;42;53 - 00;15;07;12
Caleb Maeda
yeah, I think it does. I think. Actually, I don't I'm not sure. I think it does. I think in, in terms of, like grabbing attention, like the fastest way to make your content more appealing without adjusting your content is just in the editing. Yeah, but you can you can make a highlight reel of, like, any NBA player and make them look good.

00;15;07;12 - 00;15;39;08
00;14;18;38 - 00;14;42;48
Caleb Maeda
Same with like a YouTube video. Like if you've done rumors of Patrick Williams of Thunder, I really I was watching like a highlight video. I was like, this guy is as good as. Yeah. And so like, I think I think from like, like the, the online perspective of it and also like engagement in the room. Like I think back to when I was a student, if you showed me this like super yellow grainy video with like the white noise in the background, that's like almost as loud as this being, like, I would disengage almost immediately just because like, oh, this is an old video, I don't care.

00;15;39;12 - 00;15;54;56
Caleb Maeda
And so I think that there's that kind of like the production value does serve a purpose, but I think that I think we can get in the weeds a little bit like for our person just because like where the yeah, where the people who are like are doing the editing. So we're like, I hate that I did this and no one would even notice.

00;15;55;09 - 00;16;10;52
Nick Clason
Well, what we're talking like yesterday on stage, like the video on the, photo back to. Yeah. Like you and I could see the, like. Yeah. That the edge was a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On screen. But yeah, I don't know. But nobody noticed that before I pointed it out, I don't know, I wasn't paying. Oh not right.

00;16;10;55 - 00;16;27;02
Caleb Maeda
Probably not because you didn't spend very much time on that. Yeah at all. But then like I said look you noticed that. Then there's the little thing. And like, that's just part of, I think, being an artist because like, you're never going to be perfect at your craft and like, filmmaking and editing is like an art form. Yeah.

00;16;27;06 - 00;16;43;45
Caleb Maeda
Not to get all weird about it, but like, it is. And so, I think also just like not getting caught up in that, I think is important because there is a level of production value that is valuable. But I think, you know, any time we get so caught up in the production value that we're not thinking about the content, I think that's where we're going to fall into things.

00;16;43;45 - 00;17;01;32
Caleb Maeda
So at the end of the day, we should be delivering good content to our kids because that's what we're here for. Yeah, I agree, but reach out to either of us if you need anything. Yeah, please. Haha. Well, aim for real. Like how much? And our lives changing. Yeah, that's also true dude. Also like starry I'm going to talk about stars.

00;17;01;36 - 00;17;18;05
Caleb Maeda
Shout out to starry. I freaking love this dude and I've never even talked to him. I remember I started when I was doing the Hot Wings video. I started talking to him just like before the videos, just like, hey man, houses are gone. I love you bro. Yeah. And like, like just the ideas you need to build that connection with a dude in India is really cool.

00;17;18;05 - 00;17;31;13
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. And like, you would tell me some of the things that he would say back in like, I don't know, it was just really cool to like, build that with a dude I've never actually spoken to. And the only reason that happened was because we got to a point where, like, we need someone to help us edit and we found a dude on Fiverr.

00;17;31;13 - 00;18;02;09
Nick Clason
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't tell Fiverr that we don't. I mean, to them we didn't we met him through the Google. We so so yeah. interesting. there's a lot, a lot more ministry opportunities, I think, from this than I thought there would be going into it because I thought, I thought that like, like on paper, it sounds like the ministry we're doing is we're doing it for online kids to get connected to church, to hopefully eventually come and then for our kids to have, like, content.

00;18;02;09 - 00;18;23;03
Caleb Maeda
Right. But then there's like the editor who's like discovering Christianity for the first time and like asking questions and stuff. There's like the community that's being built on, like the key kids who are like trying to do the drafts, like all of that extra stuff is stuff that I didn't personally like, think about. And then when I started seeing it like those ended up being the reasons that like, drove me to keep going rather than just the content.

00;18;23;08 - 00;18;46;56
Nick Clason
So what do you what do you think it will look like for you in the future, like because, you know, keeping going, whatever. Like you're quasi being forced to because you're like working and like this is what we're telling you, like, hey, you have to do. But like, yeah, soon you're going to be your own youth pastor working somewhere or for someone or whatever.

00;18;46;56 - 00;19;08;21
Caleb Maeda
Like what? What things do you see yourself? Just like taking most of all of it, honestly, like the the short form, I think that was the other thing. When I came in, I wasn't as big on short form videos as I was the long form videos, just because when I grew up watching YouTube, YouTube was long form videos.

00;19;08;25 - 00;19;28;49
Caleb Maeda
and so taking that and I just look at our, our Instagram reels, it's like, I know, dude, it's friggin nuts. But, yeah. And so I think I'll take a lot of that stuff, especially because, like, it's pretty easy to get a lot of content, like on a Wednesday night, just like sit down with ten kids and you can get like 5 or 6, you know.

00;19;28;54 - 00;20;02;03
Caleb Maeda
And so I think that and I also I think the, the teaching videos stuff, because the there have been a couple churches that I've been looking at, and like their social media is good, but like they just clip their live preachings, which I think is awesome and great and like, that's better than nothing. But I also think that there's something about, the way that we change it for In the Room versus the, the video that I think just makes the video work a little better because we're specifically crafting that part of our message for that medium.

00;20;02;08 - 00;20;31;21
Caleb Maeda
and so I think more work, it's more work, but I think that the payoff is great because also then, like, there's not like the room awkwardness, like there's not the like, con response. And then that frees us up for in the room to do things like table talk and all of that stuff. and also like, just like having your message written down in that form for the long form videos, helps you to say things that I think sometimes, like, I will drop in the room like there's if there's a little fun tidbit that, like, just isn't going to fit in the room, but I really liked it.

00;20;31;21 - 00;20;52;40
Caleb Maeda
Like, I have to say it in the the long form YouTube video. So I think that there's also that kind of added value. But anything else I can think of, probably like, honestly, I probably won't be on the student ministry page as much as I was at the beginning of this. But like, I'm trying to figure out how what does it look like to start this?

00;20;52;40 - 00;21;16;41
Caleb Maeda
Because like I can say on paper, I want all kids to be doing all the drafts all the time. Like if the kids are involved in like, how am I that, you know. Yeah. And so and sometimes it's helpful for them to like see examples. Yeah. And so it's kind of that like that I'm going to try to figure out how to balance that line of like setting the tone but like making sure it's, it's kid first.

00;21;16;46 - 00;21;34;25
Caleb Maeda
and then also like I think finding ways to like do like not only the teaching videos, but like the baptism videos, like courses like that. I think I would also want to pull just because like, I think that that's a great resource page for them that we can pull from. For anytime a kid has questions about baptisms, you can throw them to that.

00;21;34;30 - 00;21;53;32
Nick Clason
yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, you can also expand that. Like, you could even make the workshops that we've been doing into little video series, like, I don't know if there's like a lot of stuff that you can do with playlists and like with. Yeah, having the idea of it being like a course like. Yeah. And like you and I have talked about this a lot, but I think like content for content delivery.

00;21;53;32 - 00;22;09;26
Caleb Maeda
I think YouTube is a better way than live preaching just because like and like again, you've talked about this all the time, but like, I don't know anybody whose primary like learning style is sit down and listen to a lecture for 30 minutes even. You can have the best graphics as you want, like you can have great table talks.

00;22;09;26 - 00;22;27;14
Caleb Maeda
Like I'm not going to pull as much from that as I will from like a ten minute YouTube video with like graphics and like, I don't know, there's just something about the way our brains are wired with our shorter attention spans. I think YouTube is a great medium medium for content delivery in a way that like, we're not getting as much in the room.

00;22;27;16 - 00;22;50;28
Nick Clason
Yeah, I think these days. Yeah. And I mean the again, sky's the limit. Creativity like your, your creativity or lack of creativity is you're like lid on it. So like if you have like a system like we do now where it's like you fill all your messages and everything, like you know, you can at any time play the video that, yeah, the live teaching doesn't work.

00;22;50;33 - 00;23;12;53
Nick Clason
You can play the clips or like, yeah, like we're going to be gone. We were gone for like a conference earlier this year so we could just throw the video up there. Well in like next week we're gone for camp. Yeah on a Sunday. And so your video is broken up into four parts. Yeah. Questions thrown in like so that I can literally hand it off to any volunteer pastor that's back here on staff.

00;23;12;53 - 00;23;34;58
Caleb Maeda
And they can do it pretty seamlessly. Like, yeah, like, yeah, the sky. And that's the thing, if you say learning happens better in like a medium like that, like almost makes you wonder and ask yourself like, how do I, how do I create a hybrid moment between the two? Like I live in the room and like a video.

00;23;35;02 - 00;24;08;05
Caleb Maeda
Yeah. Where like, intersects and is like used strategically for, like a students most optimal way of learning. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know, I think it's, I think it's something that like we haven't tapped into more from like tradition and anything. And I think that school is starting to go this way a little bit like you've heard of like the flipped classroom where they like get a video and then they watch the video at home, and then they do their homework in the classroom, and then they, like, talk to the teacher and work it out in the classroom.

00;24;08;05 - 00;24;38;27
Caleb Maeda
But all of the teaching is done at home through videos. Yeah. And so I think that, like, we're starting to see that shift in like the school realm. And so I think that church should be the next step. just because I think they like I've, we've been saying like, I think it's a much more effective way to deliver content to this generation, because also, like when I think about it, like I can list, you know, a couple topics from like sermons that I've listened to, but like fallout YouTube videos right now that I've been watching, like, I can pull a lot more purely from just like the amount that I can consume in a

00;24;38;27 - 00;25;00;26
Caleb Maeda
sitting. Yeah. You know, like I can consume 30 minutes. Yeah, I can consume 30 minutes of YouTube content more effectively than in the room for, you know, all of those reasons. Yeah. Yeah. So all right well that's it man POG signing out. Score Vikings. Thanks for hanging some video. I'll probably be here on the screen. Yeah. Click it watch it.

00;25;00;26 - 00;25;04;35
Nick Clason
Do the thing. See you next time. Love you stay hybrid. Yeah. Nice.

00;25;05;36 - 00;25;08;28
Nick Clason
I gotta pee. Okay,

00;25;09;49 - 00;25;13;02
Caleb Maeda
Oh.

00;25;13;24 - 00;25;18;35
Nick Clason
I can't wait to hear that. Nice.

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Social media. Marketing and communications. As we've been exploring in this playlist linked right here at the top of the screen, we have looked at how important having the right 00:00:14:00 - 00:00:31:19 Nick Clason tool is. I talked about like different softwares that I'm using every single day. I've talked about different pieces of hardware that I'm using every single day as it pertains to cameras and microphones and lighting and then like putting it all together in the platforms that you use. 00:00:31:19 - 00:00:33:17 Nick Clason But like, if you're watching this and you're like, 00:00:33:17 - 00:00:55:22 Nick Clason what do I do for my church, social media, for my church marketing? Like, what is the first step if I'm just getting started, if I'm just starting from scratch, where do I go? What do I do? How do I do this? Here's how I would recommend getting started if you have nothing going for you. 00:00:55:22 - 00:00:57:01 Nick Clason So first and foremost, 00:00:57:01 - 00:01:11:14 Nick Clason determine the platforms that you want to be on. Okay? Like you got to know where you want to go. If you don't want a TikTok, then don't create a TikTok account. If you don't want YouTube, don't create a YouTube account. 00:01:11:14 - 00:01:16:08 Nick Clason But if you call me and you're like, hey dude, I'm starting from scratch, what do you recommend? 00:01:16:08 - 00:01:41:11 Nick Clason So for scalability and sustainability, what I would aim for, first and foremost, let's check this off. The box. Let's make sure you have a church website. If you're in youth ministry, that conversation might not begin with you. You might have a church communications person or something like that that they're doing the website. But if you're in youth ministry, make sure your youth ministry website is actually up to date. 00:01:41:11 - 00:02:08:18 Nick Clason I can't tell you how many youth pastor websites I go to, and what's on there is like events that have already expired, like events from October and it's like November already or something like that. So get in, make sure and keep your website 100% completely up to date. maybe even send a visitor to it or somebody that doesn't go to your church and ask them, like, does this website look good and makes sense? 00:02:08:18 - 00:02:25:06 Nick Clason And probably the most important question in that is, does this make sense? Because the fact of the matter is like, if you're in youth ministry and someone else is building your website, you don't have a lot of control over like the look and the feel of it. And then last than the last episode of our playlist, I talked about nucleus, right? 00:02:25:07 - 00:02:45:22 Nick Clason I talked about, the nucleus website builder. So if you don't have one and you're in the market for one, check them out. They are affordable, their sales team is fantastic. And it's it's a church website, builder for churches. It's not like a WordPress site or something like that. It's like four churches. So check it out, make sure that your website is up to date. 00:02:45:25 - 00:03:08:12 Nick Clason But then from there, if and when, like people land on your website, they know where to go. They know what to do. It makes sense. It's not confusing. They're not getting turned around. So if your website is good to go, that is like the very, very, very baseline of it. Okay. From there, you need to then determine, like we've talked about, you need you need to determine which platforms you're going to be on. 00:03:08:14 - 00:03:30:04 Nick Clason Now, for me, because of the virality like potential of short form vertical video, I want to be on them off. And because we're going to be creating, at least I'm going to be creating a lot of short form, vertical based video. And all of the major platforms support short form, vertical based video. Then I'm just going to be on all four of them. 00:03:30:04 - 00:03:58:06 Nick Clason But if you like have a theological or like preferential stance against one of the social networks for one reason or another, then make your determinations and choose what you want to do. But I would implore you to consider and not overlook the platform of YouTube 95% of teenagers say that they're on YouTube. That is also a corresponding statistic for adults as well. 00:03:58:06 - 00:04:32:28 Nick Clason Like the majority of people are on YouTube. Now, if you think about what most people's just typical habits are on YouTube, aside from getting on there for entertainment, they're getting on there to ask specific questions. And so if you yourself are also answering specific questions, namely about God and faith and matters of salvation and things that that people might be looking for and and if you don't know the the answers to those things, like you can check out a resource like vid IQ linked down below. 00:04:33:00 - 00:04:56:28 Nick Clason to kind of give you an idea for what people are searching on YouTube and what keywords are ranked really high. But if you don't want to use a platform like that, use your intuition. I mean pastors and church ministry leaders. Like that's actually what we're doing every single day and every single week when we're coming up with different sermon series that we think people need to and want to hear and explore and learn from. 00:04:56:28 - 00:05:14:25 Nick Clason Like the whole idea of what YouTubers are trying to do is they're trying to get into people's heads and figure out, like, what are they? What are they asking? So that I can answer so that they'll click my video and so that they'll watch it? Pastors are doing the same thing, right? We're thinking like, what does my congregation need to hear? 00:05:14:25 - 00:05:19:03 Nick Clason What is my student interested in? What do we look? What are they looking for? 00:05:19:03 - 00:05:36:12 Nick Clason what do they need? Even though maybe they don't like, want it, you know? And so you're doing the same type of thing. And that's why I recommend in our, YouTube for Youth Ministry playlist, I recommend pre filming your messages. So, so so 00:05:36:12 - 00:05:38:12 Nick Clason establish a YouTube account. 00:05:38:14 - 00:06:00:00 Nick Clason And that's going to be like your home base right? Your website, home base, your YouTube is probably your home base for social media. Your longest form, your most like substantial pieces of content are going to live on YouTube. You're going to do long form, videos. And if you have the ability to do teaching videos, we're going to work up to that at one point in time. 00:06:00:00 - 00:06:20:27 Nick Clason But if you don't have the infrastructure or bandwidth or editing, first and foremost, let me just say I'm available to reach out for coaching. link down below is a link if you are interested in you. You are starting to kind of build this from scratch, but you're getting hung up somewhere or stuck on something, or you just you just want to pick an outsider's brain. 00:06:21:04 - 00:06:52:27 Nick Clason Click that link, reach out to me, start a conversation. First session is free, and let's just figure this thing out together. But that being said, you're going to work yourself up to full, long form YouTube based videos like that's where you're going to hope to end up. However, if you're just getting started and you want to like, start kind of like dipping your toe in the digital waters, you need to I would recommend that you have all the platforms that you're going to want to start using. 00:06:52:27 - 00:07:11:23 Nick Clason Now, I don't know what other platforms might kind of burst on the scene here in just a little bit, but as of today, as of right now, what I think is useful and recommended for churches is YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and Facebook. And I would probably rank them in that order. 00:07:11:23 - 00:07:19:20 Nick Clason that being said, like I said, make your determination like what is going to work for you and your ministry in your context. 00:07:19:20 - 00:07:38:15 Nick Clason But if you're going to work yourself up to full time YouTube long form accounts, in the meantime, we can start posting things on your shorts feed on YouTube. Okay, so we're going to work ourselves up to it and then to just get started, at a bare minimum, right. Like I have detailed 00:07:38:15 - 00:07:41:12 Nick Clason an outline here in my 100% completely free e-book. 00:07:41:12 - 00:08:10:12 Nick Clason You see it here on screen. If you are watching on YouTube, all kinds of different ideas and strategies and things to get you started. But to scale all that back because like, that's my full strategy to post per day, all those things long form video once per week, like all that stuff. But to scale that back to a more manageable, more bite sized and more like, helping someone like you who's starting from scratch with no other, like prior experience and no other infrastructure to get stuff like this done. 00:08:10:14 - 00:08:33:01 Nick Clason Here's how I would recommend getting started. First of all, on Monday morning, if you have a service on Sunday with a sermon of some sorts on Monday morning, what I would do is I would post a like selfie style less than one minute, because YouTube shorts is a maximum of one minute long. And so if you make all of your short form vertical based videos less than one minute 00:08:33:01 - 00:08:33:20 Nick Clason they will go. 00:08:33:20 - 00:08:55:08 Nick Clason You will be able to use that singular piece of content across all platforms YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels, TikTok and Facebook. But on Monday I would do some sort of recap post, and all you're doing is a selfie style video and you are rehashing the sermon. If you're the pastor, this is great because you know your main points. 00:08:55:10 - 00:09:22:17 Nick Clason You know your takeaway, you know your best illustration. Like just kind of riff on it for 60s like, you know, let's say, let's say yesterday your topic was, you know, living in let living life and community and how to love other sacrificially like Jesus did from first, or not from first, from John chapter 15. So you might hold your phone up and be like, you know, Jesus taught us the idea about living and giving our lives for other people. 00:09:22:23 - 00:09:43:22 Nick Clason And you just kind of like you can riff on that for 60s. And if you're holding your phone, you can see the little timer, like how long it's taking, right? one thing that I think is good practice is this you're going to be posting this on reels. Okay? Or TikTok or YouTube shorts. And so people may not find it in a quote unquote timely manner. 00:09:43:29 - 00:10:10:28 Nick Clason And so don't say something like yesterday at church, we talked about like drop that language, just dive straight into what the topic is, because if you want someone to find you, they're not finding you based on your like, calendar of events or the fact that you had church yesterday. So just just go straight to the content plus that like it's the first two seconds of a video or a reel that matters most. 00:10:10:28 - 00:10:31:03 Nick Clason Getting people right to like, actually hook, pay attention and not leave. And so don't do this. Hey, this is pastor Bill here from, Calvary Church. And don't forget that yesterday we talked about life and community and not forget about the church picnic potluck. But I want to remind you that we, like, drop all that, right? Living life in communities hard. 00:10:31:06 - 00:10:55:13 Nick Clason How do we do it? Well, Jesus actually gives us a roadmap. You see the difference between those two? Like one dropped the five second intro and the five second fluff, and it helps you, like, then be able to cram more content into your 62nd time limit. And also someone comes across this video three months later. It's okay because the content is still relevant and it's not timestamped in any sort of way. 00:10:55:14 - 00:11:19:07 Nick Clason Now, if you are long form, filming your videos or posting a live stream, somewhere posted to YouTube, because what you can do then on YouTube is you can link a related video, right? And so if you have a short form video about the topic, you can link a long form video and then you get that person over to that section and that part of your channel, right? 00:11:19:07 - 00:11:47:21 Nick Clason If YouTube is the the, the home base of your social media, then everything you're doing, you're going to want to get them over there to that thing. And if you create a little end card or a watermark that you put on your videos, it can also point them from other platforms over to YouTube. It can follow like a link in bio, on TikTok or on Instagram, or on Facebook and, and actually in Facebook, you can post a legitimately live, link that can take them to that platform. 00:11:47:21 - 00:12:26:01 Nick Clason But then on on, let's say Wednesday, what I would do is I, would you like some sort of like devotional type thought? Similar, right. But different and unrelated to the sermon or like, you know, if if we're doing like the life and community and living sacrificially, then on Wednesday, I might just do a quick 62nd blurb video about love and the importance of love and, or or you could do a like a video, with no talking and just some, like some backing track and like some text on it. 00:12:26:01 - 00:12:48:25 Nick Clason Right. And it's kind of like a how to video. And so you could title it like How to Love Someone and then like are three, three steps to loving Someone who's unlovable. Step one step two, step three. You can post something like that. So again it's it's adjacent or semi tied to your content. But again it it has the the purpose of being evergreen to be found later on down the road. 00:12:48:25 - 00:13:07:15 Nick Clason And then Friday do something fun, post a bunch of memes post like something that shows your personality. and this is where I would. Even if you're in a church and you're not in youth ministry, this is where I would grab my book and I would start doing some of the things that I recommend. Blind ranking filters on TikTok. 00:13:07:22 - 00:13:25:17 Nick Clason No, it or not, go to one side of the room of the other with yourself, your volunteers, your staff. you can do like, one of my favorite things is called drafts. And it's like talking about, ranking different, like things in different categories. Seven questions. telepathy. Like, all kinds of different, like, game styles that we've done. 00:13:25:17 - 00:13:43:25 Nick Clason Again, all of those are listed in my e-book and you can just do like drafts Friday and every single Friday you post a draft, or you can sprinkle in a variety of those different pieces of content. But once you start doing these things on some sort of regular rhythm, some sort of regular clip, then you want to start working yourself 00:13:43:25 - 00:13:46:08 Nick Clason up to be able to post once a day. 00:13:46:12 - 00:14:13:01 Nick Clason Right? And my goal, what I do is I post once a day for every day that I work. So if you're in ministry, you probably are off like Friday and Saturday. So I post two months. right now I post two on Sunday, two on 1I2 on Tuesday, two on Wednesday, two on Thursday. but if you know so like if that's your schedule like post on the days that you're on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday or something like that, like figure out a rhythm within your calendar that you work, don't post on days that you don't work. 00:14:13:01 - 00:14:34:25 Nick Clason Now, if you want to do some sort of scheduler, you can you can check out, scheduler that I've used in the past called Metro. Cool. it will get the videos on the thing, unlike the platforms, but just being honest like it, I don't think the algorithms really enjoyed it coming from a third party. So it took down a lot of my reach and a lot of my places, especially YouTube. 00:14:35:03 - 00:15:07:26 Nick Clason And YouTube is, the platform that I'm actually, like, most interested in as a youth pastor in 2024 and beyond. And so I didn't like that my, my reach and my, my views were all down on YouTube and I, I blame that on the third party posting service. But, sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's helpful. if you're only using like, Facebook and Instagram, I do think you can use the meta business suite, to post things, and there is no issue with, throttle down reach because it's not third party, it's from meta directly. 00:15:07:26 - 00:15:27:15 Nick Clason And so that is that is a worthwhile one. But getting on like TikTok in those type of things, that's that's trickier. and so then all throughout the rest of your week, like what else do you post? Well, you can post some, some photos, like photo dump type things, on your Instagram feed, in Facebook groups, Facebook pages. 00:15:27:17 - 00:15:56:18 Nick Clason you can also post some a couple of like static graphics and one announcement, one announcement per week. No more than one announcement per week. and then if you have a Facebook group, try to drum up and build up some good community in there, maybe consider giving some giveaways and stuff like that to like kickstart and spark some conversation and community, so that it actually, can kind of carry on without you having to be the primary initiator of all of that content. 00:15:56:18 - 00:16:02:27 Nick Clason But then you're gonna eventually work yourself up to two posts per day, right? 00:16:02:27 - 00:16:21:15 Nick Clason and right now we're just at three a week, one every other day. And so to go beyond that, then start sprinkling in one on a, on the off days. Right. And so then your one every day and then start sprinkling in two on maybe two of the days out of the, out of the five total or whatever that might look like. 00:16:21:15 - 00:16:57:08 Nick Clason And but then eventually to like, the biggest priority for me would be find a way to get your long form content down to a 15 minute type thing. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages, because a live stream is typically 30 to 35 minutes. But if you can get your long form down to to 15 minutes or so and that can be clipping your live or that can be, filming direct to camera, there's multiple different ways to kind of attack that, but start posting those videos to YouTube, work on your titles, work on your descriptions, work on your tags, and work on your thumbnails. 00:16:57:15 - 00:17:18:15 Nick Clason Add those things to playlists on YouTube. All those things are helpful and you getting seen, found, and indexed in your community. and so that will also be an avenue to not only serve your church. People who weren't there live for the sermon, want to watch it again, whatever the case may be. and also potentially reaching new people. 00:17:18:21 - 00:17:39:00 Nick Clason So that's how I would take all the different tools that we've talked about and how I would package them and make them hybrid. Now, the next episode, I actually do a sit down interview with my resident and he's been working with me now for, the last year at the church now. And he was an intern with me previously in a different context. 00:17:39:00 - 00:17:55:24 Nick Clason And so I ask him his opinion of what it's been like to work in a hybrid ministry environment, what he learned from it, his thoughts, his takeaways, and, what he's going to take with him on into his next endeavor. So that video is going to be linked right here on screen. Tap that. 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01:25 Step #1 Website
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:14:00
Nick Clason
Church and youth ministry. Social media. Marketing and communications. As we've been exploring in this playlist linked right here at the top of the screen, we have looked at how important having the right

00:00:14:00 - 00:00:31:19
Nick Clason
tool is. I talked about like different softwares that I'm using every single day. I've talked about different pieces of hardware that I'm using every single day as it pertains to cameras and microphones and lighting and then like putting it all together in the platforms that you use.

00:00:31:19 - 00:00:33:17
Nick Clason
But like, if you're watching this and you're like,

00:00:33:17 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason
what do I do for my church, social media, for my church marketing? Like, what is the first step if I'm just getting started, if I'm just starting from scratch, where do I go? What do I do? How do I do this? Here's how I would recommend getting started if you have nothing going for you.

00:00:55:22 - 00:00:57:01
Nick Clason
So first and foremost,

00:00:57:01 - 00:01:11:14
Nick Clason
determine the platforms that you want to be on. Okay? Like you got to know where you want to go. If you don't want a TikTok, then don't create a TikTok account. If you don't want YouTube, don't create a YouTube account.

00:01:11:14 - 00:01:16:08
Nick Clason
But if you call me and you're like, hey dude, I'm starting from scratch, what do you recommend?

00:01:16:08 - 00:01:41:11
Nick Clason
So for scalability and sustainability, what I would aim for, first and foremost, let's check this off. The box. Let's make sure you have a church website. If you're in youth ministry, that conversation might not begin with you. You might have a church communications person or something like that that they're doing the website. But if you're in youth ministry, make sure your youth ministry website is actually up to date.

00:01:41:11 - 00:02:08:18
Nick Clason
I can't tell you how many youth pastor websites I go to, and what's on there is like events that have already expired, like events from October and it's like November already or something like that. So get in, make sure and keep your website 100% completely up to date. maybe even send a visitor to it or somebody that doesn't go to your church and ask them, like, does this website look good and makes sense?

00:02:08:18 - 00:02:25:06
Nick Clason
And probably the most important question in that is, does this make sense? Because the fact of the matter is like, if you're in youth ministry and someone else is building your website, you don't have a lot of control over like the look and the feel of it. And then last than the last episode of our playlist, I talked about nucleus, right?

00:02:25:07 - 00:02:45:22
Nick Clason
I talked about, the nucleus website builder. So if you don't have one and you're in the market for one, check them out. They are affordable, their sales team is fantastic. And it's it's a church website, builder for churches. It's not like a WordPress site or something like that. It's like four churches. So check it out, make sure that your website is up to date.

00:02:45:25 - 00:03:08:12
Nick Clason
But then from there, if and when, like people land on your website, they know where to go. They know what to do. It makes sense. It's not confusing. They're not getting turned around. So if your website is good to go, that is like the very, very, very baseline of it. Okay. From there, you need to then determine, like we've talked about, you need you need to determine which platforms you're going to be on.

00:03:08:14 - 00:03:30:04
Nick Clason
Now, for me, because of the virality like potential of short form vertical video, I want to be on them off. And because we're going to be creating, at least I'm going to be creating a lot of short form, vertical based video. And all of the major platforms support short form, vertical based video. Then I'm just going to be on all four of them.

00:03:30:04 - 00:03:58:06
Nick Clason
But if you like have a theological or like preferential stance against one of the social networks for one reason or another, then make your determinations and choose what you want to do. But I would implore you to consider and not overlook the platform of YouTube 95% of teenagers say that they're on YouTube. That is also a corresponding statistic for adults as well.

00:03:58:06 - 00:04:32:28
Nick Clason
Like the majority of people are on YouTube. Now, if you think about what most people's just typical habits are on YouTube, aside from getting on there for entertainment, they're getting on there to ask specific questions. And so if you yourself are also answering specific questions, namely about God and faith and matters of salvation and things that that people might be looking for and and if you don't know the the answers to those things, like you can check out a resource like vid IQ linked down below.

00:04:33:00 - 00:04:56:28
Nick Clason
to kind of give you an idea for what people are searching on YouTube and what keywords are ranked really high. But if you don't want to use a platform like that, use your intuition. I mean pastors and church ministry leaders. Like that's actually what we're doing every single day and every single week when we're coming up with different sermon series that we think people need to and want to hear and explore and learn from.

00:04:56:28 - 00:05:14:25
Nick Clason
Like the whole idea of what YouTubers are trying to do is they're trying to get into people's heads and figure out, like, what are they? What are they asking? So that I can answer so that they'll click my video and so that they'll watch it? Pastors are doing the same thing, right? We're thinking like, what does my congregation need to hear?

00:05:14:25 - 00:05:19:03
Nick Clason
What is my student interested in? What do we look? What are they looking for?

00:05:19:03 - 00:05:36:12
Nick Clason
what do they need? Even though maybe they don't like, want it, you know? And so you're doing the same type of thing. And that's why I recommend in our, YouTube for Youth Ministry playlist, I recommend pre filming your messages. So, so so

00:05:36:12 - 00:05:38:12
Nick Clason
establish a YouTube account.

00:05:38:14 - 00:06:00:00
Nick Clason
And that's going to be like your home base right? Your website, home base, your YouTube is probably your home base for social media. Your longest form, your most like substantial pieces of content are going to live on YouTube. You're going to do long form, videos. And if you have the ability to do teaching videos, we're going to work up to that at one point in time.

00:06:00:00 - 00:06:20:27
Nick Clason
But if you don't have the infrastructure or bandwidth or editing, first and foremost, let me just say I'm available to reach out for coaching. link down below is a link if you are interested in you. You are starting to kind of build this from scratch, but you're getting hung up somewhere or stuck on something, or you just you just want to pick an outsider's brain.

00:06:21:04 - 00:06:52:27
Nick Clason
Click that link, reach out to me, start a conversation. First session is free, and let's just figure this thing out together. But that being said, you're going to work yourself up to full, long form YouTube based videos like that's where you're going to hope to end up. However, if you're just getting started and you want to like, start kind of like dipping your toe in the digital waters, you need to I would recommend that you have all the platforms that you're going to want to start using.

00:06:52:27 - 00:07:11:23
Nick Clason
Now, I don't know what other platforms might kind of burst on the scene here in just a little bit, but as of today, as of right now, what I think is useful and recommended for churches is YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and Facebook. And I would probably rank them in that order.

00:07:11:23 - 00:07:19:20
Nick Clason
that being said, like I said, make your determination like what is going to work for you and your ministry in your context.

00:07:19:20 - 00:07:38:15
Nick Clason
But if you're going to work yourself up to full time YouTube long form accounts, in the meantime, we can start posting things on your shorts feed on YouTube. Okay, so we're going to work ourselves up to it and then to just get started, at a bare minimum, right. Like I have detailed

00:07:38:15 - 00:07:41:12
Nick Clason
an outline here in my 100% completely free e-book.

00:07:41:12 - 00:08:10:12
Nick Clason
You see it here on screen. If you are watching on YouTube, all kinds of different ideas and strategies and things to get you started. But to scale all that back because like, that's my full strategy to post per day, all those things long form video once per week, like all that stuff. But to scale that back to a more manageable, more bite sized and more like, helping someone like you who's starting from scratch with no other, like prior experience and no other infrastructure to get stuff like this done.

00:08:10:14 - 00:08:33:01
Nick Clason
Here's how I would recommend getting started. First of all, on Monday morning, if you have a service on Sunday with a sermon of some sorts on Monday morning, what I would do is I would post a like selfie style less than one minute, because YouTube shorts is a maximum of one minute long. And so if you make all of your short form vertical based videos less than one minute

00:08:33:01 - 00:08:33:20
Nick Clason
they will go.

00:08:33:20 - 00:08:55:08
Nick Clason
You will be able to use that singular piece of content across all platforms YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels, TikTok and Facebook. But on Monday I would do some sort of recap post, and all you're doing is a selfie style video and you are rehashing the sermon. If you're the pastor, this is great because you know your main points.

00:08:55:10 - 00:09:22:17
Nick Clason
You know your takeaway, you know your best illustration. Like just kind of riff on it for 60s like, you know, let's say, let's say yesterday your topic was, you know, living in let living life and community and how to love other sacrificially like Jesus did from first, or not from first, from John chapter 15. So you might hold your phone up and be like, you know, Jesus taught us the idea about living and giving our lives for other people.

00:09:22:23 - 00:09:43:22
Nick Clason
And you just kind of like you can riff on that for 60s. And if you're holding your phone, you can see the little timer, like how long it's taking, right? one thing that I think is good practice is this you're going to be posting this on reels. Okay? Or TikTok or YouTube shorts. And so people may not find it in a quote unquote timely manner.

00:09:43:29 - 00:10:10:28
Nick Clason
And so don't say something like yesterday at church, we talked about like drop that language, just dive straight into what the topic is, because if you want someone to find you, they're not finding you based on your like, calendar of events or the fact that you had church yesterday. So just just go straight to the content plus that like it's the first two seconds of a video or a reel that matters most.

00:10:10:28 - 00:10:31:03
Nick Clason
Getting people right to like, actually hook, pay attention and not leave. And so don't do this. Hey, this is pastor Bill here from, Calvary Church. And don't forget that yesterday we talked about life and community and not forget about the church picnic potluck. But I want to remind you that we, like, drop all that, right? Living life in communities hard.

00:10:31:06 - 00:10:55:13
Nick Clason
How do we do it? Well, Jesus actually gives us a roadmap. You see the difference between those two? Like one dropped the five second intro and the five second fluff, and it helps you, like, then be able to cram more content into your 62nd time limit. And also someone comes across this video three months later. It's okay because the content is still relevant and it's not timestamped in any sort of way.

00:10:55:14 - 00:11:19:07
Nick Clason
Now, if you are long form, filming your videos or posting a live stream, somewhere posted to YouTube, because what you can do then on YouTube is you can link a related video, right? And so if you have a short form video about the topic, you can link a long form video and then you get that person over to that section and that part of your channel, right?

00:11:19:07 - 00:11:47:21
Nick Clason
If YouTube is the the, the home base of your social media, then everything you're doing, you're going to want to get them over there to that thing. And if you create a little end card or a watermark that you put on your videos, it can also point them from other platforms over to YouTube. It can follow like a link in bio, on TikTok or on Instagram, or on Facebook and, and actually in Facebook, you can post a legitimately live, link that can take them to that platform.

00:11:47:21 - 00:12:26:01
Nick Clason
But then on on, let's say Wednesday, what I would do is I, would you like some sort of like devotional type thought? Similar, right. But different and unrelated to the sermon or like, you know, if if we're doing like the life and community and living sacrificially, then on Wednesday, I might just do a quick 62nd blurb video about love and the importance of love and, or or you could do a like a video, with no talking and just some, like some backing track and like some text on it.

00:12:26:01 - 00:12:48:25
Nick Clason
Right. And it's kind of like a how to video. And so you could title it like How to Love Someone and then like are three, three steps to loving Someone who's unlovable. Step one step two, step three. You can post something like that. So again it's it's adjacent or semi tied to your content. But again it it has the the purpose of being evergreen to be found later on down the road.

00:12:48:25 - 00:13:07:15
Nick Clason
And then Friday do something fun, post a bunch of memes post like something that shows your personality. and this is where I would. Even if you're in a church and you're not in youth ministry, this is where I would grab my book and I would start doing some of the things that I recommend. Blind ranking filters on TikTok.

00:13:07:22 - 00:13:25:17
Nick Clason
No, it or not, go to one side of the room of the other with yourself, your volunteers, your staff. you can do like, one of my favorite things is called drafts. And it's like talking about, ranking different, like things in different categories. Seven questions. telepathy. Like, all kinds of different, like, game styles that we've done.

00:13:25:17 - 00:13:43:25
Nick Clason
Again, all of those are listed in my e-book and you can just do like drafts Friday and every single Friday you post a draft, or you can sprinkle in a variety of those different pieces of content. But once you start doing these things on some sort of regular rhythm, some sort of regular clip, then you want to start working yourself

00:13:43:25 - 00:13:46:08
Nick Clason
up to be able to post once a day.

00:13:46:12 - 00:14:13:01
Nick Clason
Right? And my goal, what I do is I post once a day for every day that I work. So if you're in ministry, you probably are off like Friday and Saturday. So I post two months. right now I post two on Sunday, two on 1I2 on Tuesday, two on Wednesday, two on Thursday. but if you know so like if that's your schedule like post on the days that you're on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday or something like that, like figure out a rhythm within your calendar that you work, don't post on days that you don't work.

00:14:13:01 - 00:14:34:25
Nick Clason
Now, if you want to do some sort of scheduler, you can you can check out, scheduler that I've used in the past called Metro. Cool. it will get the videos on the thing, unlike the platforms, but just being honest like it, I don't think the algorithms really enjoyed it coming from a third party. So it took down a lot of my reach and a lot of my places, especially YouTube.

00:14:35:03 - 00:15:07:26
Nick Clason
And YouTube is, the platform that I'm actually, like, most interested in as a youth pastor in 2024 and beyond. And so I didn't like that my, my reach and my, my views were all down on YouTube and I, I blame that on the third party posting service. But, sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's helpful. if you're only using like, Facebook and Instagram, I do think you can use the meta business suite, to post things, and there is no issue with, throttle down reach because it's not third party, it's from meta directly.

00:15:07:26 - 00:15:27:15
Nick Clason
And so that is that is a worthwhile one. But getting on like TikTok in those type of things, that's that's trickier. and so then all throughout the rest of your week, like what else do you post? Well, you can post some, some photos, like photo dump type things, on your Instagram feed, in Facebook groups, Facebook pages.

00:15:27:17 - 00:15:56:18
Nick Clason
you can also post some a couple of like static graphics and one announcement, one announcement per week. No more than one announcement per week. and then if you have a Facebook group, try to drum up and build up some good community in there, maybe consider giving some giveaways and stuff like that to like kickstart and spark some conversation and community, so that it actually, can kind of carry on without you having to be the primary initiator of all of that content.

00:15:56:18 - 00:16:02:27
Nick Clason
But then you're gonna eventually work yourself up to two posts per day, right?

00:16:02:27 - 00:16:21:15
Nick Clason
and right now we're just at three a week, one every other day. And so to go beyond that, then start sprinkling in one on a, on the off days. Right. And so then your one every day and then start sprinkling in two on maybe two of the days out of the, out of the five total or whatever that might look like.

00:16:21:15 - 00:16:57:08
Nick Clason
And but then eventually to like, the biggest priority for me would be find a way to get your long form content down to a 15 minute type thing. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages, because a live stream is typically 30 to 35 minutes. But if you can get your long form down to to 15 minutes or so and that can be clipping your live or that can be, filming direct to camera, there's multiple different ways to kind of attack that, but start posting those videos to YouTube, work on your titles, work on your descriptions, work on your tags, and work on your thumbnails.

00:16:57:15 - 00:17:18:15
Nick Clason
Add those things to playlists on YouTube. All those things are helpful and you getting seen, found, and indexed in your community. and so that will also be an avenue to not only serve your church. People who weren't there live for the sermon, want to watch it again, whatever the case may be. and also potentially reaching new people.

00:17:18:21 - 00:17:39:00
Nick Clason
So that's how I would take all the different tools that we've talked about and how I would package them and make them hybrid. Now, the next episode, I actually do a sit down interview with my resident and he's been working with me now for, the last year at the church now. And he was an intern with me previously in a different context.

00:17:39:00 - 00:17:55:24
Nick Clason
And so I ask him his opinion of what it's been like to work in a hybrid ministry environment, what he learned from it, his thoughts, his takeaways, and, what he's going to take with him on into his next endeavor. So that video is going to be linked right here on screen. Tap that. We'd love to have you go check that out.

00:17:55:24 - 00:18:03:22
Nick Clason
But don't forget, as always, we're making digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. So as always, stay hybrid.

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01:25 Step #1 Website
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:14:00
Nick Clason
Church and youth ministry. Social media. Marketing and communications. As we've been exploring in this playlist linked right here at the top of the screen, we have looked at how important having the right

00:00:14:00 - 00:00:31:19
Nick Clason
tool is. I talked about like different softwares that I'm using every single day. I've talked about different pieces of hardware that I'm using every single day as it pertains to cameras and microphones and lighting and then like putting it all together in the platforms that you use.

00:00:31:19 - 00:00:33:17
Nick Clason
But like, if you're watching this and you're like,

00:00:33:17 - 00:00:55:22
Nick Clason
what do I do for my church, social media, for my church marketing? Like, what is the first step if I'm just getting started, if I'm just starting from scratch, where do I go? What do I do? How do I do this? Here's how I would recommend getting started if you have nothing going for you.

00:00:55:22 - 00:00:57:01
Nick Clason
So first and foremost,

00:00:57:01 - 00:01:11:14
Nick Clason
determine the platforms that you want to be on. Okay? Like you got to know where you want to go. If you don't want a TikTok, then don't create a TikTok account. If you don't want YouTube, don't create a YouTube account.

00:01:11:14 - 00:01:16:08
Nick Clason
But if you call me and you're like, hey dude, I'm starting from scratch, what do you recommend?

00:01:16:08 - 00:01:41:11
Nick Clason
So for scalability and sustainability, what I would aim for, first and foremost, let's check this off. The box. Let's make sure you have a church website. If you're in youth ministry, that conversation might not begin with you. You might have a church communications person or something like that that they're doing the website. But if you're in youth ministry, make sure your youth ministry website is actually up to date.

00:01:41:11 - 00:02:08:18
Nick Clason
I can't tell you how many youth pastor websites I go to, and what's on there is like events that have already expired, like events from October and it's like November already or something like that. So get in, make sure and keep your website 100% completely up to date. maybe even send a visitor to it or somebody that doesn't go to your church and ask them, like, does this website look good and makes sense?

00:02:08:18 - 00:02:25:06
Nick Clason
And probably the most important question in that is, does this make sense? Because the fact of the matter is like, if you're in youth ministry and someone else is building your website, you don't have a lot of control over like the look and the feel of it. And then last than the last episode of our playlist, I talked about nucleus, right?

00:02:25:07 - 00:02:45:22
Nick Clason
I talked about, the nucleus website builder. So if you don't have one and you're in the market for one, check them out. They are affordable, their sales team is fantastic. And it's it's a church website, builder for churches. It's not like a WordPress site or something like that. It's like four churches. So check it out, make sure that your website is up to date.

00:02:45:25 - 00:03:08:12
Nick Clason
But then from there, if and when, like people land on your website, they know where to go. They know what to do. It makes sense. It's not confusing. They're not getting turned around. So if your website is good to go, that is like the very, very, very baseline of it. Okay. From there, you need to then determine, like we've talked about, you need you need to determine which platforms you're going to be on.

00:03:08:14 - 00:03:30:04
Nick Clason
Now, for me, because of the virality like potential of short form vertical video, I want to be on them off. And because we're going to be creating, at least I'm going to be creating a lot of short form, vertical based video. And all of the major platforms support short form, vertical based video. Then I'm just going to be on all four of them.

00:03:30:04 - 00:03:58:06
Nick Clason
But if you like have a theological or like preferential stance against one of the social networks for one reason or another, then make your determinations and choose what you want to do. But I would implore you to consider and not overlook the platform of YouTube 95% of teenagers say that they're on YouTube. That is also a corresponding statistic for adults as well.

00:03:58:06 - 00:04:32:28
Nick Clason
Like the majority of people are on YouTube. Now, if you think about what most people's just typical habits are on YouTube, aside from getting on there for entertainment, they're getting on there to ask specific questions. And so if you yourself are also answering specific questions, namely about God and faith and matters of salvation and things that that people might be looking for and and if you don't know the the answers to those things, like you can check out a resource like vid IQ linked down below.

00:04:33:00 - 00:04:56:28
Nick Clason
to kind of give you an idea for what people are searching on YouTube and what keywords are ranked really high. But if you don't want to use a platform like that, use your intuition. I mean pastors and church ministry leaders. Like that's actually what we're doing every single day and every single week when we're coming up with different sermon series that we think people need to and want to hear and explore and learn from.

00:04:56:28 - 00:05:14:25
Nick Clason
Like the whole idea of what YouTubers are trying to do is they're trying to get into people's heads and figure out, like, what are they? What are they asking? So that I can answer so that they'll click my video and so that they'll watch it? Pastors are doing the same thing, right? We're thinking like, what does my congregation need to hear?

00:05:14:25 - 00:05:19:03
Nick Clason
What is my student interested in? What do we look? What are they looking for?

00:05:19:03 - 00:05:36:12
Nick Clason
what do they need? Even though maybe they don't like, want it, you know? And so you're doing the same type of thing. And that's why I recommend in our, YouTube for Youth Ministry playlist, I recommend pre filming your messages. So, so so

00:05:36:12 - 00:05:38:12
Nick Clason
establish a YouTube account.

00:05:38:14 - 00:06:00:00
Nick Clason
And that's going to be like your home base right? Your website, home base, your YouTube is probably your home base for social media. Your longest form, your most like substantial pieces of content are going to live on YouTube. You're going to do long form, videos. And if you have the ability to do teaching videos, we're going to work up to that at one point in time.

00:06:00:00 - 00:06:20:27
Nick Clason
But if you don't have the infrastructure or bandwidth or editing, first and foremost, let me just say I'm available to reach out for coaching. link down below is a link if you are interested in you. You are starting to kind of build this from scratch, but you're getting hung up somewhere or stuck on something, or you just you just want to pick an outsider's brain.

00:06:21:04 - 00:06:52:27
Nick Clason
Click that link, reach out to me, start a conversation. First session is free, and let's just figure this thing out together. But that being said, you're going to work yourself up to full, long form YouTube based videos like that's where you're going to hope to end up. However, if you're just getting started and you want to like, start kind of like dipping your toe in the digital waters, you need to I would recommend that you have all the platforms that you're going to want to start using.

00:06:52:27 - 00:07:11:23
Nick Clason
Now, I don't know what other platforms might kind of burst on the scene here in just a little bit, but as of today, as of right now, what I think is useful and recommended for churches is YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and Facebook. And I would probably rank them in that order.

00:07:11:23 - 00:07:19:20
Nick Clason
that being said, like I said, make your determination like what is going to work for you and your ministry in your context.

00:07:19:20 - 00:07:38:15
Nick Clason
But if you're going to work yourself up to full time YouTube long form accounts, in the meantime, we can start posting things on your shorts feed on YouTube. Okay, so we're going to work ourselves up to it and then to just get started, at a bare minimum, right. Like I have detailed

00:07:38:15 - 00:07:41:12
Nick Clason
an outline here in my 100% completely free e-book.

00:07:41:12 - 00:08:10:12
Nick Clason
You see it here on screen. If you are watching on YouTube, all kinds of different ideas and strategies and things to get you started. But to scale all that back because like, that's my full strategy to post per day, all those things long form video once per week, like all that stuff. But to scale that back to a more manageable, more bite sized and more like, helping someone like you who's starting from scratch with no other, like prior experience and no other infrastructure to get stuff like this done.

00:08:10:14 - 00:08:33:01
Nick Clason
Here's how I would recommend getting started. First of all, on Monday morning, if you have a service on Sunday with a sermon of some sorts on Monday morning, what I would do is I would post a like selfie style less than one minute, because YouTube shorts is a maximum of one minute long. And so if you make all of your short form vertical based videos less than one minute

00:08:33:01 - 00:08:33:20
Nick Clason
they will go.

00:08:33:20 - 00:08:55:08
Nick Clason
You will be able to use that singular piece of content across all platforms YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels, TikTok and Facebook. But on Monday I would do some sort of recap post, and all you're doing is a selfie style video and you are rehashing the sermon. If you're the pastor, this is great because you know your main points.

00:08:55:10 - 00:09:22:17
Nick Clason
You know your takeaway, you know your best illustration. Like just kind of riff on it for 60s like, you know, let's say, let's say yesterday your topic was, you know, living in let living life and community and how to love other sacrificially like Jesus did from first, or not from first, from John chapter 15. So you might hold your phone up and be like, you know, Jesus taught us the idea about living and giving our lives for other people.

00:09:22:23 - 00:09:43:22
Nick Clason
And you just kind of like you can riff on that for 60s. And if you're holding your phone, you can see the little timer, like how long it's taking, right? one thing that I think is good practice is this you're going to be posting this on reels. Okay? Or TikTok or YouTube shorts. And so people may not find it in a quote unquote timely manner.

00:09:43:29 - 00:10:10:28
Nick Clason
And so don't say something like yesterday at church, we talked about like drop that language, just dive straight into what the topic is, because if you want someone to find you, they're not finding you based on your like, calendar of events or the fact that you had church yesterday. So just just go straight to the content plus that like it's the first two seconds of a video or a reel that matters most.

00:10:10:28 - 00:10:31:03
Nick Clason
Getting people right to like, actually hook, pay attention and not leave. And so don't do this. Hey, this is pastor Bill here from, Calvary Church. And don't forget that yesterday we talked about life and community and not forget about the church picnic potluck. But I want to remind you that we, like, drop all that, right? Living life in communities hard.

00:10:31:06 - 00:10:55:13
Nick Clason
How do we do it? Well, Jesus actually gives us a roadmap. You see the difference between those two? Like one dropped the five second intro and the five second fluff, and it helps you, like, then be able to cram more content into your 62nd time limit. And also someone comes across this video three months later. It's okay because the content is still relevant and it's not timestamped in any sort of way.

00:10:55:14 - 00:11:19:07
Nick Clason
Now, if you are long form, filming your videos or posting a live stream, somewhere posted to YouTube, because what you can do then on YouTube is you can link a related video, right? And so if you have a short form video about the topic, you can link a long form video and then you get that person over to that section and that part of your channel, right?

00:11:19:07 - 00:11:47:21
Nick Clason
If YouTube is the the, the home base of your social media, then everything you're doing, you're going to want to get them over there to that thing. And if you create a little end card or a watermark that you put on your videos, it can also point them from other platforms over to YouTube. It can follow like a link in bio, on TikTok or on Instagram, or on Facebook and, and actually in Facebook, you can post a legitimately live, link that can take them to that platform.

00:11:47:21 - 00:12:26:01
Nick Clason
But then on on, let's say Wednesday, what I would do is I, would you like some sort of like devotional type thought? Similar, right. But different and unrelated to the sermon or like, you know, if if we're doing like the life and community and living sacrificially, then on Wednesday, I might just do a quick 62nd blurb video about love and the importance of love and, or or you could do a like a video, with no talking and just some, like some backing track and like some text on it.

00:12:26:01 - 00:12:48:25
Nick Clason
Right. And it's kind of like a how to video. And so you could title it like How to Love Someone and then like are three, three steps to loving Someone who's unlovable. Step one step two, step three. You can post something like that. So again it's it's adjacent or semi tied to your content. But again it it has the the purpose of being evergreen to be found later on down the road.

00:12:48:25 - 00:13:07:15
Nick Clason
And then Friday do something fun, post a bunch of memes post like something that shows your personality. and this is where I would. Even if you're in a church and you're not in youth ministry, this is where I would grab my book and I would start doing some of the things that I recommend. Blind ranking filters on TikTok.

00:13:07:22 - 00:13:25:17
Nick Clason
No, it or not, go to one side of the room of the other with yourself, your volunteers, your staff. you can do like, one of my favorite things is called drafts. And it's like talking about, ranking different, like things in different categories. Seven questions. telepathy. Like, all kinds of different, like, game styles that we've done.

00:13:25:17 - 00:13:43:25
Nick Clason
Again, all of those are listed in my e-book and you can just do like drafts Friday and every single Friday you post a draft, or you can sprinkle in a variety of those different pieces of content. But once you start doing these things on some sort of regular rhythm, some sort of regular clip, then you want to start working yourself

00:13:43:25 - 00:13:46:08
Nick Clason
up to be able to post once a day.

00:13:46:12 - 00:14:13:01
Nick Clason
Right? And my goal, what I do is I post once a day for every day that I work. So if you're in ministry, you probably are off like Friday and Saturday. So I post two months. right now I post two on Sunday, two on 1I2 on Tuesday, two on Wednesday, two on Thursday. but if you know so like if that's your schedule like post on the days that you're on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday or something like that, like figure out a rhythm within your calendar that you work, don't post on days that you don't work.

00:14:13:01 - 00:14:34:25
Nick Clason
Now, if you want to do some sort of scheduler, you can you can check out, scheduler that I've used in the past called Metro. Cool. it will get the videos on the thing, unlike the platforms, but just being honest like it, I don't think the algorithms really enjoyed it coming from a third party. So it took down a lot of my reach and a lot of my places, especially YouTube.

00:14:35:03 - 00:15:07:26
Nick Clason
And YouTube is, the platform that I'm actually, like, most interested in as a youth pastor in 2024 and beyond. And so I didn't like that my, my reach and my, my views were all down on YouTube and I, I blame that on the third party posting service. But, sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's helpful. if you're only using like, Facebook and Instagram, I do think you can use the meta business suite, to post things, and there is no issue with, throttle down reach because it's not third party, it's from meta directly.

00:15:07:26 - 00:15:27:15
Nick Clason
And so that is that is a worthwhile one. But getting on like TikTok in those type of things, that's that's trickier. and so then all throughout the rest of your week, like what else do you post? Well, you can post some, some photos, like photo dump type things, on your Instagram feed, in Facebook groups, Facebook pages.

00:15:27:17 - 00:15:56:18
Nick Clason
you can also post some a couple of like static graphics and one announcement, one announcement per week. No more than one announcement per week. and then if you have a Facebook group, try to drum up and build up some good community in there, maybe consider giving some giveaways and stuff like that to like kickstart and spark some conversation and community, so that it actually, can kind of carry on without you having to be the primary initiator of all of that content.

00:15:56:18 - 00:16:02:27
Nick Clason
But then you're gonna eventually work yourself up to two posts per day, right?

00:16:02:27 - 00:16:21:15
Nick Clason
and right now we're just at three a week, one every other day. And so to go beyond that, then start sprinkling in one on a, on the off days. Right. And so then your one every day and then start sprinkling in two on maybe two of the days out of the, out of the five total or whatever that might look like.

00:16:21:15 - 00:16:57:08
Nick Clason
And but then eventually to like, the biggest priority for me would be find a way to get your long form content down to a 15 minute type thing. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages, because a live stream is typically 30 to 35 minutes. But if you can get your long form down to to 15 minutes or so and that can be clipping your live or that can be, filming direct to camera, there's multiple different ways to kind of attack that, but start posting those videos to YouTube, work on your titles, work on your descriptions, work on your tags, and work on your thumbnails.

00:16:57:15 - 00:17:18:15
Nick Clason
Add those things to playlists on YouTube. All those things are helpful and you getting seen, found, and indexed in your community. and so that will also be an avenue to not only serve your church. People who weren't there live for the sermon, want to watch it again, whatever the case may be. and also potentially reaching new people.

00:17:18:21 - 00:17:39:00
Nick Clason
So that's how I would take all the different tools that we've talked about and how I would package them and make them hybrid. Now, the next episode, I actually do a sit down interview with my resident and he's been working with me now for, the last year at the church now. And he was an intern with me previously in a different context.

00:17:39:00 - 00:17:55:24
Nick Clason
And so I ask him his opinion of what it's been like to work in a hybrid ministry environment, what he learned from it, his thoughts, his takeaways, and, what he's going to take with him on into his next endeavor. So that video is going to be linked right here on screen. Tap that. We'd love to have you go check that out.

00:17:55:24 - 00:18:03:22
Nick Clason
But don't forget, as always, we're making digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. So as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 102: Is Instagram Dead? https://www.hybridministry.xyz/102 cbad26d8-5b8c-4044-a408-3d525e9a160a Thu, 20 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 102 Is Instagram Dead? full Nick Clason The Usage of Instagram among teenagers is reducing. According to some recent studies the adoptiong and usage rate of Instagram among teenagers is shrinking. Additionally, in my recent anecdotal experience, I've noticed that Instagram in both of my last two church stints, Instagram served college and former youth group graduates really well. And not as well, at least from engagement, of our current youth ministry students. Which leads me to ask: "Is Instagram Dead?" 9:57 no ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ’ฅ[CUSTOM] Hybrid Coaching๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ====================================== DESCRIPTION The Usage of Instagram among teenagers is reducing. According to some recent studies the adoptiong and usage rate of Instagram among teenagers is shrinking. Additionally, in my recent anecdotal experience, I've noticed that Instagram in both of my last two church stints, Instagram served college and former youth group graduates really well. And not as well, at least from engagement, of our current youth ministry students. Which leads me to ask: "Is Instagram Dead?" ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/102 //Tiktok Vs Instagram Vs YouTube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73ceADGZxQ&t=3s //100th Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0L-Dxhs7cI //YouTube for Youth Ministry https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl //Research Sources https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2024/01/31/americans-social-media-use/ https://www.sentiment.io/how-many-teens-use-social-media/#:~:text=TikTok%2C%20Snapchat%2C%20and%20Instagram%20remain,about%20seven%2Din%2Dten ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐Ÿ“จ Full Proof Recruiting Email EMAIL: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/recruiting-email ๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut ๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/ebook ====================================== ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv TRY REV.COM FOR TRANSCRIBING https://rev.pxf.io/R5nDOa -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Instagram's Usage in Youth Ministry 00:50 Hybrid Ministry During COVID 03:25 Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve 07:01 The Most Fun Memories of Unscripted 09:27 What this means going forward for churches in 2024 and beyond -------------- โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:05 Nick Clason Is Instagram on its deathbed 00:00:05:05 - 00:00:13:03 Nick Clason for youth ministry? Instagram actually started October 6th, 2010. 00:00:13:03 - 00:00:35:07 Nick Clason I became a youth pastor in January of 2011, and so I became a youth pastor. Since within, 2 or 3 months of Instagram beginning. and so years ago, when I started in youth ministry, Instagram was a platform that I was implementing and bringing into the fold and framework. 00:00:35:07 - 00:01:02:22 Nick Clason Right? Coming off of kind of the Facebook era into the now Instagram era and that became a platform that I really doubled down and leaned in on Instagram versus TikTok versus YouTube is actually a topic that we've explored. Isn't right here on screen or down in the show notes. If you are listening in a podcast catchup. But slowly, over time, the key social network my students were using was Instagram. 00:01:02:25 - 00:01:21:27 Nick Clason And so I remember in first couple churches I worked in, I launched and started an Instagram program program, Instagram social media account and gained a following. but then as it does and as it always seems to happen, and grew in more and more popularity, which is a good thing for the app and the creators of the app. 00:01:21:29 - 00:01:57:06 Nick Clason slowly, that meant more and more adults began to infiltrate and adopt the app, which then made it less and less interesting to teenagers because it wasn't the new thing on the streets that their parents were not a part of. And so, just like the meteoric rise of TikTok during the pandemic, which was once an app for teenagers, in order for them to to lip sync and to dance has now become an all out news source, complete with ads and sports analysis and anything else that you might possibly want to find on TikTok. 00:01:57:06 - 00:02:29:19 Nick Clason And this Instagram thing. Now it's no longer this undercover app. It's a mainstream app. It was purchased by Facebook and owned now under the meta umbrella. And so it's it doesn't carry the same cachet that it once did. When I first started as a youth pastor, one of the reasons I'm even asking this question is I, as a youth pastor in my last two stints in student ministry, have recently noticed that when I started, one church I started in 2020 and then the other one where I'm currently serving, I started in 2022. 00:02:29:26 - 00:02:31:23 Nick Clason My anecdotal experience has 00:02:31:23 - 00:02:43:17 Nick Clason led me to ask this question because in each of these contexts, Instagram has best served the young adult and former youth group students who have graduated out of our 00:02:43:17 - 00:02:59:26 Nick Clason programs. Again, this is anecdotal and this is just my experience, but I went back several months ago and I did a deep dive analysis, and I realized that about 25% or less of our posts were being engaged with current students in our youth ministry. 00:02:59:29 - 00:03:20:26 Nick Clason So there are still students in our youth ministry using it. And your percentages may be different and may be varied, but I was noticing that it was a lot of leaders and it was a lot of parents. Which led me to this question is Instagram for youth ministry dead? Well, let's explore it. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. 00:03:20:26 - 00:03:54:23 Nick Clason If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayton. I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and in addition to the typically youth ministry duties that I have such as preaching and writing, small group guides and onboarding leaders, and all the youth ministry things. One of the major things that I was tasked with and also had a passion to get started on once I began at this church here was to create a digital or a hybrid experience, as we talked about kind of the origins of that hybrid experience in episode 102 episodes ago. 00:03:54:29 - 00:04:28:00 Nick Clason Go back and check that out or head to Hybrid Ministry. Dot xyzzy slash 100. But we are talking about is Instagram dead? So I'd be curious a little bit of like, do data and research here. Give me a like if you use Instagram exclusively in your social media and then if not, give me a subscribe. If you use any other social media platform, including Instagram, but also beyond Instagram and hit, you hit the bell because we have some really cool things in store on this channel. 00:04:28:00 - 00:05:02:00 Nick Clason And coming up ahead on YouTube and on this podcast. But according to Pew Research, Instagram was in 20 2014, Instagram was up to about 52% of a usage rate among teenagers. Fast forward to 2022, that usage rate went from 52% all the way up to 62% and then down in 2020 4th January of this year, we saw that that usage rate ticked down only slightly from 62% to 59%. 00:05:02:04 - 00:05:18:16 Nick Clason So, tick tock. Snapchat and Instagram, respectively, ages 13 to 17, are being reported to being used, 63% with TikTok, 60% with Snapchat, and 59% again with Instagram. One of the 00:05:18:16 - 00:05:34:08 Nick Clason things that According to sentiment I o linked to this and the Pew Research study down below in the show notes shared, was that, the uptick of usage would you would see to, be increased when the ages got older. 00:05:34:08 - 00:05:47:25 Nick Clason So it studied 13 to 17, but when they shaved off 13, 14 and just made it 15 to 17, they saw these, increase about 7 to 10, in usage. And so what's interesting 00:05:47:25 - 00:06:01:10 Nick Clason is that in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down below in the show notes, if you are listening, is I recommend that we use digital and social media to our advantage. 00:06:01:10 - 00:06:12:03 Nick Clason And one of the good things about it is that regardless of which platform you're on, all four of the main social media platforms right now by forming Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube 00:06:12:03 - 00:06:21:15 Nick Clason offer the same type of content. When I started in 2011 and beyond, posts for different Facebook had like a wide screen base post. Instagram had 00:06:21:15 - 00:06:24:01 Nick Clason a square base post, YouTube was only for videos. 00:06:24:02 - 00:06:43:16 Nick Clason TikTok didn't even exist. But then in 2021, TikTok burst onto the scene it implemented and ushered in this new type of medium, which is short form vertical video we saw quickly after that that reels was adopted in both Instagram and Facebook, and YouTube also brought along shorts. And so now all of those platforms are 00:06:43:16 - 00:06:53:28 Nick Clason using those mediums. And so if you have a camera, which by the way, you do, because it is in your pocket on your cell phone, you can create short form vertical based video. 00:06:54:00 - 00:07:15:02 Nick Clason I recommend that you start with pre filming your messages in a long form widescreen version, and you cut those up for social media. And then I also recommend that you supplement some of your content with some fun and engaging social media content with your students and or leaders. I mean, just look right here on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, some of these most recent performing YouTube shorts are incredible, and they are just with our students. 00:07:15:02 - 00:07:36:21 Nick Clason We filmed them before or after youth group, and we just do silly, fun challenges with them and they get incredible amounts of views. And so the good news is, is that what is being used and what is best available in your context is that you can do your context and you can do what works. If all of your students are on Instagram, then by all means continue to use Instagram. 00:07:36:21 - 00:08:04:13 Nick Clason But if you are starting fresh, I may offer an I may recommend something slightly different based on at least the national study and some of the national trends. But here's the good news is that every single church, every single context, is different. What I do know that's not different is that teenagers are speaking a digital language, whether they have unfettered and unfiltered social media access on their cell phones or whether they are just used to seeing things done via video. 00:08:04:16 - 00:08:23:23 Nick Clason Which is why right now I am offering three slots of free coaching. If you're interested in taking me up on that, hit the link in the e-book or the link down below in the show notes, and I would be happy to begin a discussion with you about what that looks like and how we can get you up, and to begin hybridizing your ministry. 00:08:23:25 - 00:08:46:24 Nick Clason Okay, so let's look ahead. If you're completely brand new and you don't already have some sort of, established Instagram following, and you're looking to start right now, well, then here's what I recommend, which we outlined and explained all in our most recent playlist, YouTube for Youth Ministry, which is linked, down below in the show notes. But I recommend YouTube. 00:08:46:26 - 00:09:16:27 Nick Clason All right. Check out what Pew Research said. This is a survey done by adults and for adults. But it said YouTube, by and large, is the most widely used online platform measured in our survey. It. Roughly 8 in 10 U.S. adults report ever using the video based platform. Look at this chart right here on screen. You'll see that YouTube is at 93% a wide margin above the second most, which is TikTok only, which is only at 63%. 00:09:16:27 - 00:09:47:19 Nick Clason By comparison. And so you might be asking like, what's ahead? Or how do I get started? What do I do? I have all of that detailed and outlined for you in a nine part playlist titled YouTube for Youth Ministry. It's actually it's actually linked to right here on screen. So if you're interested in that and information about YouTube for youth ministry, how to get started, what you're going to need a crash course for YouTube shorts and beyond, tap that video on screen and we will be happy to see you over there. 00:09:47:19 - 00:09:54:23 Nick Clason But until next time, and as always, don't forget to stay hybrid. What to Post for Youth Pastors, Social Media Strategy for Churches, Instagram Tips, Hybrid Ministry, Youth Ministry, Nick Clason, Youth Ministry Podcast, Social media for Churches, Instagram for Youth Ministry, Youtube for Churches, Do Teenagers Use Instagram?, ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ

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The Usage of Instagram among teenagers is reducing.
According to some recent studies the adoptiong and usage rate of Instagram among teenagers is shrinking.

Additionally, in my recent anecdotal experience, I've noticed that Instagram in both of my last two church stints, Instagram served college and former youth group graduates really well.

And not as well, at least from engagement, of our current youth ministry students.

Which leads me to ask: "Is Instagram Dead?"

======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/102

//Tiktok Vs Instagram Vs YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73ceADGZxQ&t=3s

//100th Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0L-Dxhs7cI

//YouTube for Youth Ministry
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl

//Research Sources
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2024/01/31/americans-social-media-use/

https://www.sentiment.io/how-many-teens-use-social-media/#:~:text=TikTok%2C%20Snapchat%2C%20and%20Instagram%20remain,about%20seven%2Din%2Dten

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Instagram's Usage in Youth Ministry
00:50 Hybrid Ministry During COVID
03:25 Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve
07:01 The Most Fun Memories of Unscripted
09:27 What this means going forward for churches in 2024 and beyond

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:05
Nick Clason
Is Instagram on its deathbed

00:00:05:05 - 00:00:13:03
Nick Clason
for youth ministry? Instagram actually started October 6th, 2010.

00:00:13:03 - 00:00:35:07
Nick Clason
I became a youth pastor in January of 2011, and so I became a youth pastor. Since within, 2 or 3 months of Instagram beginning. and so years ago, when I started in youth ministry, Instagram was a platform that I was implementing and bringing into the fold and framework.

00:00:35:07 - 00:01:02:22
Nick Clason
Right? Coming off of kind of the Facebook era into the now Instagram era and that became a platform that I really doubled down and leaned in on Instagram versus TikTok versus YouTube is actually a topic that we've explored. Isn't right here on screen or down in the show notes. If you are listening in a podcast catchup. But slowly, over time, the key social network my students were using was Instagram.

00:01:02:25 - 00:01:21:27
Nick Clason
And so I remember in first couple churches I worked in, I launched and started an Instagram program program, Instagram social media account and gained a following. but then as it does and as it always seems to happen, and grew in more and more popularity, which is a good thing for the app and the creators of the app.

00:01:21:29 - 00:01:57:06
Nick Clason
slowly, that meant more and more adults began to infiltrate and adopt the app, which then made it less and less interesting to teenagers because it wasn't the new thing on the streets that their parents were not a part of. And so, just like the meteoric rise of TikTok during the pandemic, which was once an app for teenagers, in order for them to to lip sync and to dance has now become an all out news source, complete with ads and sports analysis and anything else that you might possibly want to find on TikTok.

00:01:57:06 - 00:02:29:19
Nick Clason
And this Instagram thing. Now it's no longer this undercover app. It's a mainstream app. It was purchased by Facebook and owned now under the meta umbrella. And so it's it doesn't carry the same cachet that it once did. When I first started as a youth pastor, one of the reasons I'm even asking this question is I, as a youth pastor in my last two stints in student ministry, have recently noticed that when I started, one church I started in 2020 and then the other one where I'm currently serving, I started in 2022.

00:02:29:26 - 00:02:31:23
Nick Clason
My anecdotal experience has

00:02:31:23 - 00:02:43:17
Nick Clason
led me to ask this question because in each of these contexts, Instagram has best served the young adult and former youth group students who have graduated out of our

00:02:43:17 - 00:02:59:26
Nick Clason
programs. Again, this is anecdotal and this is just my experience, but I went back several months ago and I did a deep dive analysis, and I realized that about 25% or less of our posts were being engaged with current students in our youth ministry.

00:02:59:29 - 00:03:20:26
Nick Clason
So there are still students in our youth ministry using it. And your percentages may be different and may be varied, but I was noticing that it was a lot of leaders and it was a lot of parents. Which led me to this question is Instagram for youth ministry dead? Well, let's explore it. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:03:20:26 - 00:03:54:23
Nick Clason
If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayton. I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and in addition to the typically youth ministry duties that I have such as preaching and writing, small group guides and onboarding leaders, and all the youth ministry things. One of the major things that I was tasked with and also had a passion to get started on once I began at this church here was to create a digital or a hybrid experience, as we talked about kind of the origins of that hybrid experience in episode 102 episodes ago.

00:03:54:29 - 00:04:28:00
Nick Clason
Go back and check that out or head to Hybrid Ministry. Dot xyzzy slash 100. But we are talking about is Instagram dead? So I'd be curious a little bit of like, do data and research here. Give me a like if you use Instagram exclusively in your social media and then if not, give me a subscribe. If you use any other social media platform, including Instagram, but also beyond Instagram and hit, you hit the bell because we have some really cool things in store on this channel.

00:04:28:00 - 00:05:02:00
Nick Clason
And coming up ahead on YouTube and on this podcast. But according to Pew Research, Instagram was in 20 2014, Instagram was up to about 52% of a usage rate among teenagers. Fast forward to 2022, that usage rate went from 52% all the way up to 62% and then down in 2020 4th January of this year, we saw that that usage rate ticked down only slightly from 62% to 59%.

00:05:02:04 - 00:05:18:16
Nick Clason
So, tick tock. Snapchat and Instagram, respectively, ages 13 to 17, are being reported to being used, 63% with TikTok, 60% with Snapchat, and 59% again with Instagram. One of the

00:05:18:16 - 00:05:34:08
Nick Clason
things that According to sentiment I o linked to this and the Pew Research study down below in the show notes shared, was that, the uptick of usage would you would see to, be increased when the ages got older.

00:05:34:08 - 00:05:47:25
Nick Clason
So it studied 13 to 17, but when they shaved off 13, 14 and just made it 15 to 17, they saw these, increase about 7 to 10, in usage. And so what's interesting

00:05:47:25 - 00:06:01:10
Nick Clason
is that in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down below in the show notes, if you are listening, is I recommend that we use digital and social media to our advantage.

00:06:01:10 - 00:06:12:03
Nick Clason
And one of the good things about it is that regardless of which platform you're on, all four of the main social media platforms right now by forming Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube

00:06:12:03 - 00:06:21:15
Nick Clason
offer the same type of content. When I started in 2011 and beyond, posts for different Facebook had like a wide screen base post. Instagram had

00:06:21:15 - 00:06:24:01
Nick Clason
a square base post, YouTube was only for videos.

00:06:24:02 - 00:06:43:16
Nick Clason
TikTok didn't even exist. But then in 2021, TikTok burst onto the scene it implemented and ushered in this new type of medium, which is short form vertical video we saw quickly after that that reels was adopted in both Instagram and Facebook, and YouTube also brought along shorts. And so now all of those platforms are

00:06:43:16 - 00:06:53:28
Nick Clason
using those mediums. And so if you have a camera, which by the way, you do, because it is in your pocket on your cell phone, you can create short form vertical based video.

00:06:54:00 - 00:07:15:02
Nick Clason
I recommend that you start with pre filming your messages in a long form widescreen version, and you cut those up for social media. And then I also recommend that you supplement some of your content with some fun and engaging social media content with your students and or leaders. I mean, just look right here on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, some of these most recent performing YouTube shorts are incredible, and they are just with our students.

00:07:15:02 - 00:07:36:21
Nick Clason
We filmed them before or after youth group, and we just do silly, fun challenges with them and they get incredible amounts of views. And so the good news is, is that what is being used and what is best available in your context is that you can do your context and you can do what works. If all of your students are on Instagram, then by all means continue to use Instagram.

00:07:36:21 - 00:08:04:13
Nick Clason
But if you are starting fresh, I may offer an I may recommend something slightly different based on at least the national study and some of the national trends. But here's the good news is that every single church, every single context, is different. What I do know that's not different is that teenagers are speaking a digital language, whether they have unfettered and unfiltered social media access on their cell phones or whether they are just used to seeing things done via video.

00:08:04:16 - 00:08:23:23
Nick Clason
Which is why right now I am offering three slots of free coaching. If you're interested in taking me up on that, hit the link in the e-book or the link down below in the show notes, and I would be happy to begin a discussion with you about what that looks like and how we can get you up, and to begin hybridizing your ministry.

00:08:23:25 - 00:08:46:24
Nick Clason
Okay, so let's look ahead. If you're completely brand new and you don't already have some sort of, established Instagram following, and you're looking to start right now, well, then here's what I recommend, which we outlined and explained all in our most recent playlist, YouTube for Youth Ministry, which is linked, down below in the show notes. But I recommend YouTube.

00:08:46:26 - 00:09:16:27
Nick Clason
All right. Check out what Pew Research said. This is a survey done by adults and for adults. But it said YouTube, by and large, is the most widely used online platform measured in our survey. It. Roughly 8 in 10 U.S. adults report ever using the video based platform. Look at this chart right here on screen. You'll see that YouTube is at 93% a wide margin above the second most, which is TikTok only, which is only at 63%.

00:09:16:27 - 00:09:47:19
Nick Clason
By comparison. And so you might be asking like, what's ahead? Or how do I get started? What do I do? I have all of that detailed and outlined for you in a nine part playlist titled YouTube for Youth Ministry. It's actually it's actually linked to right here on screen. So if you're interested in that and information about YouTube for youth ministry, how to get started, what you're going to need a crash course for YouTube shorts and beyond, tap that video on screen and we will be happy to see you over there.

00:09:47:19 - 00:09:54:23
Nick Clason
But until next time, and as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ

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======================================
DESCRIPTION
The Usage of Instagram among teenagers is reducing.
According to some recent studies the adoptiong and usage rate of Instagram among teenagers is shrinking.

Additionally, in my recent anecdotal experience, I've noticed that Instagram in both of my last two church stints, Instagram served college and former youth group graduates really well.

And not as well, at least from engagement, of our current youth ministry students.

Which leads me to ask: "Is Instagram Dead?"

======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/102

//Tiktok Vs Instagram Vs YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73ceADGZxQ&t=3s

//100th Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0L-Dxhs7cI

//YouTube for Youth Ministry
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl

//Research Sources
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2024/01/31/americans-social-media-use/

https://www.sentiment.io/how-many-teens-use-social-media/#:~:text=TikTok%2C%20Snapchat%2C%20and%20Instagram%20remain,about%20seven%2Din%2Dten

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Instagram's Usage in Youth Ministry
00:50 Hybrid Ministry During COVID
03:25 Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve
07:01 The Most Fun Memories of Unscripted
09:27 What this means going forward for churches in 2024 and beyond

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:05:05
Nick Clason
Is Instagram on its deathbed

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Nick Clason
for youth ministry? Instagram actually started October 6th, 2010.

00:00:13:03 - 00:00:35:07
Nick Clason
I became a youth pastor in January of 2011, and so I became a youth pastor. Since within, 2 or 3 months of Instagram beginning. and so years ago, when I started in youth ministry, Instagram was a platform that I was implementing and bringing into the fold and framework.

00:00:35:07 - 00:01:02:22
Nick Clason
Right? Coming off of kind of the Facebook era into the now Instagram era and that became a platform that I really doubled down and leaned in on Instagram versus TikTok versus YouTube is actually a topic that we've explored. Isn't right here on screen or down in the show notes. If you are listening in a podcast catchup. But slowly, over time, the key social network my students were using was Instagram.

00:01:02:25 - 00:01:21:27
Nick Clason
And so I remember in first couple churches I worked in, I launched and started an Instagram program program, Instagram social media account and gained a following. but then as it does and as it always seems to happen, and grew in more and more popularity, which is a good thing for the app and the creators of the app.

00:01:21:29 - 00:01:57:06
Nick Clason
slowly, that meant more and more adults began to infiltrate and adopt the app, which then made it less and less interesting to teenagers because it wasn't the new thing on the streets that their parents were not a part of. And so, just like the meteoric rise of TikTok during the pandemic, which was once an app for teenagers, in order for them to to lip sync and to dance has now become an all out news source, complete with ads and sports analysis and anything else that you might possibly want to find on TikTok.

00:01:57:06 - 00:02:29:19
Nick Clason
And this Instagram thing. Now it's no longer this undercover app. It's a mainstream app. It was purchased by Facebook and owned now under the meta umbrella. And so it's it doesn't carry the same cachet that it once did. When I first started as a youth pastor, one of the reasons I'm even asking this question is I, as a youth pastor in my last two stints in student ministry, have recently noticed that when I started, one church I started in 2020 and then the other one where I'm currently serving, I started in 2022.

00:02:29:26 - 00:02:31:23
Nick Clason
My anecdotal experience has

00:02:31:23 - 00:02:43:17
Nick Clason
led me to ask this question because in each of these contexts, Instagram has best served the young adult and former youth group students who have graduated out of our

00:02:43:17 - 00:02:59:26
Nick Clason
programs. Again, this is anecdotal and this is just my experience, but I went back several months ago and I did a deep dive analysis, and I realized that about 25% or less of our posts were being engaged with current students in our youth ministry.

00:02:59:29 - 00:03:20:26
Nick Clason
So there are still students in our youth ministry using it. And your percentages may be different and may be varied, but I was noticing that it was a lot of leaders and it was a lot of parents. Which led me to this question is Instagram for youth ministry dead? Well, let's explore it. Well hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show.

00:03:20:26 - 00:03:54:23
Nick Clason
If you and I haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clayton. I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and in addition to the typically youth ministry duties that I have such as preaching and writing, small group guides and onboarding leaders, and all the youth ministry things. One of the major things that I was tasked with and also had a passion to get started on once I began at this church here was to create a digital or a hybrid experience, as we talked about kind of the origins of that hybrid experience in episode 102 episodes ago.

00:03:54:29 - 00:04:28:00
Nick Clason
Go back and check that out or head to Hybrid Ministry. Dot xyzzy slash 100. But we are talking about is Instagram dead? So I'd be curious a little bit of like, do data and research here. Give me a like if you use Instagram exclusively in your social media and then if not, give me a subscribe. If you use any other social media platform, including Instagram, but also beyond Instagram and hit, you hit the bell because we have some really cool things in store on this channel.

00:04:28:00 - 00:05:02:00
Nick Clason
And coming up ahead on YouTube and on this podcast. But according to Pew Research, Instagram was in 20 2014, Instagram was up to about 52% of a usage rate among teenagers. Fast forward to 2022, that usage rate went from 52% all the way up to 62% and then down in 2020 4th January of this year, we saw that that usage rate ticked down only slightly from 62% to 59%.

00:05:02:04 - 00:05:18:16
Nick Clason
So, tick tock. Snapchat and Instagram, respectively, ages 13 to 17, are being reported to being used, 63% with TikTok, 60% with Snapchat, and 59% again with Instagram. One of the

00:05:18:16 - 00:05:34:08
Nick Clason
things that According to sentiment I o linked to this and the Pew Research study down below in the show notes shared, was that, the uptick of usage would you would see to, be increased when the ages got older.

00:05:34:08 - 00:05:47:25
Nick Clason
So it studied 13 to 17, but when they shaved off 13, 14 and just made it 15 to 17, they saw these, increase about 7 to 10, in usage. And so what's interesting

00:05:47:25 - 00:06:01:10
Nick Clason
is that in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down below in the show notes, if you are listening, is I recommend that we use digital and social media to our advantage.

00:06:01:10 - 00:06:12:03
Nick Clason
And one of the good things about it is that regardless of which platform you're on, all four of the main social media platforms right now by forming Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube

00:06:12:03 - 00:06:21:15
Nick Clason
offer the same type of content. When I started in 2011 and beyond, posts for different Facebook had like a wide screen base post. Instagram had

00:06:21:15 - 00:06:24:01
Nick Clason
a square base post, YouTube was only for videos.

00:06:24:02 - 00:06:43:16
Nick Clason
TikTok didn't even exist. But then in 2021, TikTok burst onto the scene it implemented and ushered in this new type of medium, which is short form vertical video we saw quickly after that that reels was adopted in both Instagram and Facebook, and YouTube also brought along shorts. And so now all of those platforms are

00:06:43:16 - 00:06:53:28
Nick Clason
using those mediums. And so if you have a camera, which by the way, you do, because it is in your pocket on your cell phone, you can create short form vertical based video.

00:06:54:00 - 00:07:15:02
Nick Clason
I recommend that you start with pre filming your messages in a long form widescreen version, and you cut those up for social media. And then I also recommend that you supplement some of your content with some fun and engaging social media content with your students and or leaders. I mean, just look right here on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, some of these most recent performing YouTube shorts are incredible, and they are just with our students.

00:07:15:02 - 00:07:36:21
Nick Clason
We filmed them before or after youth group, and we just do silly, fun challenges with them and they get incredible amounts of views. And so the good news is, is that what is being used and what is best available in your context is that you can do your context and you can do what works. If all of your students are on Instagram, then by all means continue to use Instagram.

00:07:36:21 - 00:08:04:13
Nick Clason
But if you are starting fresh, I may offer an I may recommend something slightly different based on at least the national study and some of the national trends. But here's the good news is that every single church, every single context, is different. What I do know that's not different is that teenagers are speaking a digital language, whether they have unfettered and unfiltered social media access on their cell phones or whether they are just used to seeing things done via video.

00:08:04:16 - 00:08:23:23
Nick Clason
Which is why right now I am offering three slots of free coaching. If you're interested in taking me up on that, hit the link in the e-book or the link down below in the show notes, and I would be happy to begin a discussion with you about what that looks like and how we can get you up, and to begin hybridizing your ministry.

00:08:23:25 - 00:08:46:24
Nick Clason
Okay, so let's look ahead. If you're completely brand new and you don't already have some sort of, established Instagram following, and you're looking to start right now, well, then here's what I recommend, which we outlined and explained all in our most recent playlist, YouTube for Youth Ministry, which is linked, down below in the show notes. But I recommend YouTube.

00:08:46:26 - 00:09:16:27
Nick Clason
All right. Check out what Pew Research said. This is a survey done by adults and for adults. But it said YouTube, by and large, is the most widely used online platform measured in our survey. It. Roughly 8 in 10 U.S. adults report ever using the video based platform. Look at this chart right here on screen. You'll see that YouTube is at 93% a wide margin above the second most, which is TikTok only, which is only at 63%.

00:09:16:27 - 00:09:47:19
Nick Clason
By comparison. And so you might be asking like, what's ahead? Or how do I get started? What do I do? I have all of that detailed and outlined for you in a nine part playlist titled YouTube for Youth Ministry. It's actually it's actually linked to right here on screen. So if you're interested in that and information about YouTube for youth ministry, how to get started, what you're going to need a crash course for YouTube shorts and beyond, tap that video on screen and we will be happy to see you over there.

00:09:47:19 - 00:09:54:23
Nick Clason
But until next time, and as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 097: ๐Ÿ“ˆ Exponential YouTube Growth Hacks: YouTube Shorts Crash Course https://www.hybridministry.xyz/097 a1f1f325-e721-4ef3-914f-4259e4ebe37a Thu, 16 May 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 097 ๐Ÿ“ˆ Exponential YouTube Growth Hacks: YouTube Shorts Crash Course full Nick Clason YouTube has more to offer than just posting videos! It has some social media components in it! We explore the best 3 non video elements As well as all the things you need to know about YouTube Shorts. How to Post What to Post How Often to Post 14:42 no ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Custom Social Coaching for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ====================================== DESCRIPTION YouTube has more to offer than just posting videos! It has some social media components in it! We explore the best 3 non video elements As well as all the things you need to know about YouTube Shorts. 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Now, you might be wondering how or how did I go about doing that, especially for free, because it seems like everything today is all about paid promotion and paid ads. 00:00:26:09 - 00:00:52:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in a lot of ways it is. But the way that we did it completely organically in our church and our student ministry was through the avenue of YouTube. Shorts. Shorts are an absolutely fantastic tool to growing your YouTube channel and your followers. And in this video today we are in a playlist. This is a continuing continuation of the playlist YouTube for Youth Ministry. 00:00:52:13 - 00:01:23:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so along with shorts, it also YouTube has the offering of a thing called the community tab and some other fun features. So we're going to explore two of my favorite features in the community tab. And a third feature that I really like, the podcast feed. I'll talk to you all about that. And then we are going to dive in a full crash course on how to shoot, film and upload YouTube shorts, how to post, what to post, how often you should post, and finally, make sure you stick around all the way to the very end of the video. 00:01:23:04 - 00:01:48:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because my all time favorite feature, especially for youth ministries, I'm going to share with you all the way at the end. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clason and I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and I started a YouTube channel for my church in January of 2023. 00:01:48:22 - 00:02:15:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And today when this thing posts, today at the day of filming, we have 573 subscribers. You might be wondering, like, how did that happen? And in a lot of ways, it was due to YouTube shorts and some of the other features embedded in YouTube. Now, one of the knocks on YouTube is that it doesn't act and operate like some of the other social networks, but the fact of the matter is, like Instagram is almost completely overwhelmed by millennials 00:02:15:17 - 00:02:37:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Those who have settled in as Instagram as their platform of choice. And so generation Z over on TikTok and now Generation Alpha coming up behind and 95% of your students on YouTube, there may be some features that things like Facebook and Instagram and TikTok have to offer that we didn't think YouTube does, but now they do. And so three of those features that I really like. 00:02:37:23 - 00:03:06:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The first one is the community tab. And one of the ways in which I utilize the community tab is through posting things similar, like you might see on Instagram called Carousel posts, which, by the way, if you grab my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down in the show notes, wherever you're listening to this, you'll notice that my weekly schedule is encapsulated by almost 100% vertical short form videos, and I really only make 1 or 2 graphic style posts. 00:03:06:05 - 00:03:24:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let me say that in the new wave and in 2024 and beyond, I would like to increase my offerings of graphic post education based posts. Honestly, the Goat right now is Brady Shear over at Pro Tools. His Instagram is phenom and also you need to go check out what he's doing there. I'd love to start posting more things like that in our student ministry. 00:03:25:02 - 00:03:52:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the good news is that YouTube offers that functionality and it's called the community tab. Right? Like TikTok might let you post just some photos on their thing, and they're starting to do that as well. But YouTube has added the community tab, and the community tab can get a little bit tricky. I have manually, started pointing our students towards it, because it's, it is a little bit of like the least known feature on YouTube, but you can offer things like carousel posts. 00:03:52:03 - 00:04:12:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can also offer things like polls. And we use that in some of our voting, which linked right here at the top of the screen is one of my all time favorite events, called the World's Greatest Donut. And it's a voting event. So students are voting for this donut versus that donut. And so if you want a full breakdown on how to use that and all the assets that go with it, check that video out, link down below. 00:04:12:04 - 00:04:30:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that video is all the things that you're going to need in order to grab the world's greatest donut. It's also linked down below in the show notes as well, but you can post polls on YouTube, you can post polls on the community tab, and I just point students towards it. And as long as they have the app and are subscribed to us, they can, rifle on over to the community tab. 00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if they start engaging with the community tab from our channel on a regular basis, then it'll begin to show in their YouTube home screen, on their feed, on their algorithm. And so the ones the accounts that I interact with on the community tab, I see more and more often. And so you might think like, oh, we can't use YouTube only because it doesn't have some of the features like votes and polls and posts and links like Facebook and Instagram do. 00:04:58:11 - 00:05:32:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's just false. Like YouTube does offer a lot of these same functionalities. And so I love those things to lean into, to create more of a community than just me blasting videos out on YouTube or, or viewing YouTube as my video holding container. It is now a much more robust social media platform. The third idea YouTube has recently introduced is podcasts, and it looks when you're posting it, it'll show up in the playlist dropdown option as this another like thing, another playlist option. 00:05:32:06 - 00:05:54:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you select the podcast option. And then it dumps every single video that's checked in your, video containers, all of your videos, any ones that are checked as a podcast, it'll drop it into what looks like a playlist. And so it's called a podcast and it is a little bit new. And so there is there are still some kinks, I believe, being worked out by YouTube. 00:05:54:16 - 00:06:13:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But a couple of different ideas is if you want to have like a podcast with some students, like that could be an option. You could post some videos to YouTube. And so people who follow you or subscribe to you or have interacted with your videos, they will see them, but they can no to go and navigate directly to the podcast feature on your YouTube channel and go ahead and check that out. 00:06:13:14 - 00:06:33:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Also, an idea that we have, I'm toying around with doing this and I'm thinking about offering it is putting our leader a leader, podcast over there on YouTube as well. So it will be included on our full YouTube channel, but particularly in the podcast, feed, which, like I said, looks and acts and seems a lot like a playlist. 00:06:33:05 - 00:06:48:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But we're going to start doing some stories and some wins and celebrate some of our leaders, as well as offer some training. We're looking to do like a weekly one under 20 minutes and just kind of like an on the go training for our leaders. And I think the YouTube podcast feed is a phenomenal place to do it. 00:06:48:12 - 00:07:12:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now we are going to offer probably an audio only version as well using like RSS, and they can get it through their Apple iTunes, or Apple podcast feed catcher as well. But YouTube does allow us to have like a place to put those things as well. Not so YouTube shorts, right? When I started posting early on the days of our YouTube channel, my YouTube shorts got tons and tons of traction. 00:07:12:21 - 00:07:32:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I think that the algorithm, because we were new, because we were trying it out, I think the algorithm was rewarding us a little bit. But if you open your you up your YouTube app and right here you just select this plus button, you'll notice it does give you a few options. So that's where you might, you know, put a post, might put a poll or some other like options to your community people. 00:07:32:02 - 00:07:46:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But this option right here, if you click shorts, will give you the option now to film or upload a short. And so of course if you want to film it, it's got this camera functionality. You just hit the camera button and get going, do a selfie style video or turn it around and film whatever's out in front of you. 00:07:46:29 - 00:08:04:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you are following my playlist here and you have prerecorded your messages and you've used Open Stop Pro, which is linked down below in the show notes, and you want to, upload a video that you've already downloaded from your phone or from like a Google Drive or Dropbox link. This would be where you would select it. 00:08:04:18 - 00:08:32:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then from this point forward, it's now included. Now you'll notice that YouTube shorts only allows 60 second clips, and so YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram and Facebook Reels, similar pieces of content. Those other three, not YouTube allow longer than a minute. So any video uploaded on to YouTube that is vertically based, either on desktop or on mobile will be automatically converted into shorts, and then we'll be put in the shorts feed kind of container on YouTube. 00:08:32:06 - 00:08:54:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you can create longer than a minute ones that will also upload to Instagram or, you know, TikTok. But because of YouTube's length limit at 60s, every single video that I produce personally, I keep under 60 seconds. That way I can post across all 3 or 4 platforms all at the same time, all at the same video, all the same type of content. 00:08:54:14 - 00:09:13:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so it's uploaded. If it goes beyond 60s, it's going to clip it or shave it. And so you're going to just want to make sure that you keep whatever you are posting at that 60 second limit. And then here off to the side, this is where you might add like text or, you know, add some other features. And then right up here at the top, this is where you might add some music as well. 00:09:13:10 - 00:09:34:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so it's similar. If you've ever used Instagram Reels or TikTok it's similar interface. They're all a little bit different. But once you've kind of done all the editing here, you'll go to the next screen. And this is where you post it. And YouTube only offers like 100 to 160 characters here on the title. and you could go back in after you upload it onto desktop. 00:09:34:23 - 00:09:52:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I have not found a way to do it on mobile yet. I guess unless you go into the YouTube studio app, which is a whole separate app to add things like tags and longer descriptions, but essentially you're just adding the title. Now what this looks like on the home screen is you get three to 4 to 5 words of visibility, depending on the number of characters. 00:09:52:22 - 00:10:20:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in my opinion, that actually tends to be what draws me to click a YouTube short. And so you might consider putting an emoji. Here you go to like emojipedia emoji. emojipedia.org or whatever to copy and paste in emoji. or just use one from your phone. Obviously if you're posting on mobile, and from there then you'll be able right to, to type maybe eye catching or hook inducing kind of title. 00:10:20:18 - 00:10:36:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, the question you might be asking is like, what do I post? Right? Well, if you've been following this playlist again, I recommend using Opus.Pro to get your long form teaching videos, which you have done by sitting down direct camera in front of a cell phone. You've upload that to opus. It's giving you however many clips. 00:10:36:10 - 00:10:54:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I personally use three opus clips per week that are sermon based, and then the rest. I'm doing fun stuff, right? I might do some educational or spiritual based content that's not message related. I might do some spiritual practice videos, but I'm also going to do a lot of fun stuff. And I view my social media and again linked down below in my e-book. 00:10:54:01 - 00:11:08:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Grab that if you want my full strategy on what you should be posting on your social media. But I give you ideas and I give instructions on how to do it, what to post, ideas and things to use, how to include your students, how to include your volunteers, how to include your other staff, how to just include yourself. 00:11:08:10 - 00:11:36:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But creating content that is based I and and optimized for social media because social media is much more than just an announcement platform, social media is a chance for us to produce entertaining and fun and relevant content that people actually get on social media to consume. And so post some sermon clips and post some fun clips so you have a good variety of both, and that you're giving a good picture of what you and your church is all about. 00:11:36:18 - 00:12:02:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But then, I recommend what I do right now is I post two times per day, five days per week. I take weekends off, and whatever rhythm works best for you. And I was in a heavy, heavy growth mode. I did three times a day. I've backed it down to two times a day. but also, if you can only post one time a day or one time every other day, so that you're like 3 to 4 times a week, whatever you do, just show up regularly. 00:12:02:26 - 00:12:29:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if you are sitting down and taking the time to pre film your messages, you have that content to then help supplement what you post on social media. So if you do a long form video and you're just getting started and you want to do a sermon clip, do one sermon clip and then do two other types of clips, one fun, one with your students and then one other selfie style video where you're just giving, a continuation or devotional thought from the message of that week. 00:12:29:06 - 00:12:50:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And boom, there's three posts, one every other day, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and you're good to go. Another thing that we as youth pastors have in our back pocket at any given time is recap videos like ten, 3 to 5 second clips that you put into like a cap cut template or something like that. And you can create a Wednesday night or Sunday night or whatever night your youth night is. 00:12:50:04 - 00:13:08:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Recap very, very easily, without a lot of work, without a lot of editing. And those things perform really well on social media because not only are students looking for themselves, but parents also are looking to see if they're students having a good time at youth group. But once you're ready to post over here, back on the post screen for the YouTube shorts. 00:13:08:11 - 00:13:42:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is my favorite feature and it's unique to YouTube because we are posting our messages, our long form messages to YouTube. And so when you post short, you can link it to a featured video. And so when I post a sermon clip, I link it to my long form sermon video. So if someone stumbles across our video on the YouTube shorts feed and they're just scrolling through and they're stopped because of the hook or the text on screen or whatever the case might be, and it it in a it captures their imagination and it makes them start thinking and they start wondering, and they want to explore more. 00:13:42:25 - 00:14:04:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Boom. Right here at the bottom of the video is a full featured video, and it will take them over to that. And that's one fantastic way to grow on social media. And it especially works well for those of us in youth ministry who are pre filming our messages, and are then also growing and posting via the community tab and on YouTube shorts. 00:14:04:27 - 00:14:21:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Listen, I know it's been a lot of work. I know we've been like adjusting our time management. But in the next video I want to take you to is I want to show you our full church studio. We took one room in our church and we completely revamped it for a studio. I'm going to give you the tour. 00:14:21:12 - 00:14:36:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to go through all the gear. I'm going to talk through all the equipment. I'm also going to share with you some of the different concepts and how we utilize and use it. All of that is going to be here in the very next video, which is linked right here directly on screen. I hope to see you over in that video. 00:14:36:27 - 00:14:41:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And don't forget and as always, to stay hybrid. YouTube Shorts, YouTube Community Tab, YouTube Podcast, How to Post a YouTube Short, How to Film a YouTube Short, The Power of YouTube Shorts, YouTube Growth, Hybrid Ministry, YouTube for Youth Ministry, Nick Clason ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Custom Social Coaching for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ

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00:00 Exponential YouTube Growth
01:32 3 Amazing YouTube Features
07:03 How to Use YouTube Shorts

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00:00:00:01 - 00:00:26:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I grew a YouTube channel for $0 of paid promotion in just a little over a year to almost 600 subscribers today, as the day of recording, it has 573 subscribers, and probably by the time that this video actually drops, it will probably be close to 600. Now, you might be wondering how or how did I go about doing that, especially for free, because it seems like everything today is all about paid promotion and paid ads.

00:00:26:09 - 00:00:52:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in a lot of ways it is. But the way that we did it completely organically in our church and our student ministry was through the avenue of YouTube. Shorts. Shorts are an absolutely fantastic tool to growing your YouTube channel and your followers. And in this video today we are in a playlist. This is a continuing continuation of the playlist YouTube for Youth Ministry.

00:00:52:13 - 00:01:23:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so along with shorts, it also YouTube has the offering of a thing called the community tab and some other fun features. So we're going to explore two of my favorite features in the community tab. And a third feature that I really like, the podcast feed. I'll talk to you all about that. And then we are going to dive in a full crash course on how to shoot, film and upload YouTube shorts, how to post, what to post, how often you should post, and finally, make sure you stick around all the way to the very end of the video.

00:01:23:04 - 00:01:48:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because my all time favorite feature, especially for youth ministries, I'm going to share with you all the way at the end. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clason and I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and I started a YouTube channel for my church in January of 2023.

00:01:48:22 - 00:02:15:17
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And today when this thing posts, today at the day of filming, we have 573 subscribers. You might be wondering, like, how did that happen? And in a lot of ways, it was due to YouTube shorts and some of the other features embedded in YouTube. Now, one of the knocks on YouTube is that it doesn't act and operate like some of the other social networks, but the fact of the matter is, like Instagram is almost completely overwhelmed by millennials

00:02:15:17 - 00:02:37:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Those who have settled in as Instagram as their platform of choice. And so generation Z over on TikTok and now Generation Alpha coming up behind and 95% of your students on YouTube, there may be some features that things like Facebook and Instagram and TikTok have to offer that we didn't think YouTube does, but now they do. And so three of those features that I really like.

00:02:37:23 - 00:03:06:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first one is the community tab. And one of the ways in which I utilize the community tab is through posting things similar, like you might see on Instagram called Carousel posts, which, by the way, if you grab my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down in the show notes, wherever you're listening to this, you'll notice that my weekly schedule is encapsulated by almost 100% vertical short form videos, and I really only make 1 or 2 graphic style posts.

00:03:06:05 - 00:03:24:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me say that in the new wave and in 2024 and beyond, I would like to increase my offerings of graphic post education based posts. Honestly, the Goat right now is Brady Shear over at Pro Tools. His Instagram is phenom and also you need to go check out what he's doing there. I'd love to start posting more things like that in our student ministry.

00:03:25:02 - 00:03:52:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the good news is that YouTube offers that functionality and it's called the community tab. Right? Like TikTok might let you post just some photos on their thing, and they're starting to do that as well. But YouTube has added the community tab, and the community tab can get a little bit tricky. I have manually, started pointing our students towards it, because it's, it is a little bit of like the least known feature on YouTube, but you can offer things like carousel posts.

00:03:52:03 - 00:04:12:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can also offer things like polls. And we use that in some of our voting, which linked right here at the top of the screen is one of my all time favorite events, called the World's Greatest Donut. And it's a voting event. So students are voting for this donut versus that donut. And so if you want a full breakdown on how to use that and all the assets that go with it, check that video out, link down below.

00:04:12:04 - 00:04:30:29
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that video is all the things that you're going to need in order to grab the world's greatest donut. It's also linked down below in the show notes as well, but you can post polls on YouTube, you can post polls on the community tab, and I just point students towards it. And as long as they have the app and are subscribed to us, they can, rifle on over to the community tab.

00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if they start engaging with the community tab from our channel on a regular basis, then it'll begin to show in their YouTube home screen, on their feed, on their algorithm. And so the ones the accounts that I interact with on the community tab, I see more and more often. And so you might think like, oh, we can't use YouTube only because it doesn't have some of the features like votes and polls and posts and links like Facebook and Instagram do.

00:04:58:11 - 00:05:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's just false. Like YouTube does offer a lot of these same functionalities. And so I love those things to lean into, to create more of a community than just me blasting videos out on YouTube or, or viewing YouTube as my video holding container. It is now a much more robust social media platform. The third idea YouTube has recently introduced is podcasts, and it looks when you're posting it, it'll show up in the playlist dropdown option as this another like thing, another playlist option.

00:05:32:06 - 00:05:54:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you select the podcast option. And then it dumps every single video that's checked in your, video containers, all of your videos, any ones that are checked as a podcast, it'll drop it into what looks like a playlist. And so it's called a podcast and it is a little bit new. And so there is there are still some kinks, I believe, being worked out by YouTube.

00:05:54:16 - 00:06:13:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But a couple of different ideas is if you want to have like a podcast with some students, like that could be an option. You could post some videos to YouTube. And so people who follow you or subscribe to you or have interacted with your videos, they will see them, but they can no to go and navigate directly to the podcast feature on your YouTube channel and go ahead and check that out.

00:06:13:14 - 00:06:33:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Also, an idea that we have, I'm toying around with doing this and I'm thinking about offering it is putting our leader a leader, podcast over there on YouTube as well. So it will be included on our full YouTube channel, but particularly in the podcast, feed, which, like I said, looks and acts and seems a lot like a playlist.

00:06:33:05 - 00:06:48:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But we're going to start doing some stories and some wins and celebrate some of our leaders, as well as offer some training. We're looking to do like a weekly one under 20 minutes and just kind of like an on the go training for our leaders. And I think the YouTube podcast feed is a phenomenal place to do it.

00:06:48:12 - 00:07:12:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now we are going to offer probably an audio only version as well using like RSS, and they can get it through their Apple iTunes, or Apple podcast feed catcher as well. But YouTube does allow us to have like a place to put those things as well. Not so YouTube shorts, right? When I started posting early on the days of our YouTube channel, my YouTube shorts got tons and tons of traction.

00:07:12:21 - 00:07:32:00
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think that the algorithm, because we were new, because we were trying it out, I think the algorithm was rewarding us a little bit. But if you open your you up your YouTube app and right here you just select this plus button, you'll notice it does give you a few options. So that's where you might, you know, put a post, might put a poll or some other like options to your community people.

00:07:32:02 - 00:07:46:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this option right here, if you click shorts, will give you the option now to film or upload a short. And so of course if you want to film it, it's got this camera functionality. You just hit the camera button and get going, do a selfie style video or turn it around and film whatever's out in front of you.

00:07:46:29 - 00:08:04:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you are following my playlist here and you have prerecorded your messages and you've used Open Stop Pro, which is linked down below in the show notes, and you want to, upload a video that you've already downloaded from your phone or from like a Google Drive or Dropbox link. This would be where you would select it.

00:08:04:18 - 00:08:32:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then from this point forward, it's now included. Now you'll notice that YouTube shorts only allows 60 second clips, and so YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram and Facebook Reels, similar pieces of content. Those other three, not YouTube allow longer than a minute. So any video uploaded on to YouTube that is vertically based, either on desktop or on mobile will be automatically converted into shorts, and then we'll be put in the shorts feed kind of container on YouTube.

00:08:32:06 - 00:08:54:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can create longer than a minute ones that will also upload to Instagram or, you know, TikTok. But because of YouTube's length limit at 60s, every single video that I produce personally, I keep under 60 seconds. That way I can post across all 3 or 4 platforms all at the same time, all at the same video, all the same type of content.

00:08:54:14 - 00:09:13:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so it's uploaded. If it goes beyond 60s, it's going to clip it or shave it. And so you're going to just want to make sure that you keep whatever you are posting at that 60 second limit. And then here off to the side, this is where you might add like text or, you know, add some other features. And then right up here at the top, this is where you might add some music as well.

00:09:13:10 - 00:09:34:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so it's similar. If you've ever used Instagram Reels or TikTok it's similar interface. They're all a little bit different. But once you've kind of done all the editing here, you'll go to the next screen. And this is where you post it. And YouTube only offers like 100 to 160 characters here on the title. and you could go back in after you upload it onto desktop.

00:09:34:23 - 00:09:52:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I have not found a way to do it on mobile yet. I guess unless you go into the YouTube studio app, which is a whole separate app to add things like tags and longer descriptions, but essentially you're just adding the title. Now what this looks like on the home screen is you get three to 4 to 5 words of visibility, depending on the number of characters.

00:09:52:22 - 00:10:20:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in my opinion, that actually tends to be what draws me to click a YouTube short. And so you might consider putting an emoji. Here you go to like emojipedia emoji. emojipedia.org or whatever to copy and paste in emoji. or just use one from your phone. Obviously if you're posting on mobile, and from there then you'll be able right to, to type maybe eye catching or hook inducing kind of title.

00:10:20:18 - 00:10:36:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, the question you might be asking is like, what do I post? Right? Well, if you've been following this playlist again, I recommend using Opus.Pro to get your long form teaching videos, which you have done by sitting down direct camera in front of a cell phone. You've upload that to opus. It's giving you however many clips.

00:10:36:10 - 00:10:54:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I personally use three opus clips per week that are sermon based, and then the rest. I'm doing fun stuff, right? I might do some educational or spiritual based content that's not message related. I might do some spiritual practice videos, but I'm also going to do a lot of fun stuff. And I view my social media and again linked down below in my e-book.

00:10:54:01 - 00:11:08:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Grab that if you want my full strategy on what you should be posting on your social media. But I give you ideas and I give instructions on how to do it, what to post, ideas and things to use, how to include your students, how to include your volunteers, how to include your other staff, how to just include yourself.

00:11:08:10 - 00:11:36:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But creating content that is based I and and optimized for social media because social media is much more than just an announcement platform, social media is a chance for us to produce entertaining and fun and relevant content that people actually get on social media to consume. And so post some sermon clips and post some fun clips so you have a good variety of both, and that you're giving a good picture of what you and your church is all about.

00:11:36:18 - 00:12:02:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But then, I recommend what I do right now is I post two times per day, five days per week. I take weekends off, and whatever rhythm works best for you. And I was in a heavy, heavy growth mode. I did three times a day. I've backed it down to two times a day. but also, if you can only post one time a day or one time every other day, so that you're like 3 to 4 times a week, whatever you do, just show up regularly.

00:12:02:26 - 00:12:29:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you are sitting down and taking the time to pre film your messages, you have that content to then help supplement what you post on social media. So if you do a long form video and you're just getting started and you want to do a sermon clip, do one sermon clip and then do two other types of clips, one fun, one with your students and then one other selfie style video where you're just giving, a continuation or devotional thought from the message of that week.

00:12:29:06 - 00:12:50:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And boom, there's three posts, one every other day, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and you're good to go. Another thing that we as youth pastors have in our back pocket at any given time is recap videos like ten, 3 to 5 second clips that you put into like a cap cut template or something like that. And you can create a Wednesday night or Sunday night or whatever night your youth night is.

00:12:50:04 - 00:13:08:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Recap very, very easily, without a lot of work, without a lot of editing. And those things perform really well on social media because not only are students looking for themselves, but parents also are looking to see if they're students having a good time at youth group. But once you're ready to post over here, back on the post screen for the YouTube shorts.

00:13:08:11 - 00:13:42:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is my favorite feature and it's unique to YouTube because we are posting our messages, our long form messages to YouTube. And so when you post short, you can link it to a featured video. And so when I post a sermon clip, I link it to my long form sermon video. So if someone stumbles across our video on the YouTube shorts feed and they're just scrolling through and they're stopped because of the hook or the text on screen or whatever the case might be, and it it in a it captures their imagination and it makes them start thinking and they start wondering, and they want to explore more.

00:13:42:25 - 00:14:04:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Boom. Right here at the bottom of the video is a full featured video, and it will take them over to that. And that's one fantastic way to grow on social media. And it especially works well for those of us in youth ministry who are pre filming our messages, and are then also growing and posting via the community tab and on YouTube shorts.

00:14:04:27 - 00:14:21:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Listen, I know it's been a lot of work. I know we've been like adjusting our time management. But in the next video I want to take you to is I want to show you our full church studio. We took one room in our church and we completely revamped it for a studio. I'm going to give you the tour.

00:14:21:12 - 00:14:36:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to go through all the gear. I'm going to talk through all the equipment. I'm also going to share with you some of the different concepts and how we utilize and use it. All of that is going to be here in the very next video, which is linked right here directly on screen. I hope to see you over in that video.

00:14:36:27 - 00:14:41:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
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YouTube has more to offer than just posting videos!
It has some social media components in it!

We explore the best 3 non video elements
As well as all the things you need to know about YouTube Shorts.
How to Post
What to Post
How Often to Post

FULL PLAYLIST
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl
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//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/I_6AF8qOPVg

//OPUS.PRO
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//WORLDS GREATEST DONUT EPISODE
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//BRADY SHEARER
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Exponential YouTube Growth
01:32 3 Amazing YouTube Features
07:03 How to Use YouTube Shorts

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:01 - 00:00:26:09
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I grew a YouTube channel for $0 of paid promotion in just a little over a year to almost 600 subscribers today, as the day of recording, it has 573 subscribers, and probably by the time that this video actually drops, it will probably be close to 600. Now, you might be wondering how or how did I go about doing that, especially for free, because it seems like everything today is all about paid promotion and paid ads.

00:00:26:09 - 00:00:52:13
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in a lot of ways it is. But the way that we did it completely organically in our church and our student ministry was through the avenue of YouTube. Shorts. Shorts are an absolutely fantastic tool to growing your YouTube channel and your followers. And in this video today we are in a playlist. This is a continuing continuation of the playlist YouTube for Youth Ministry.

00:00:52:13 - 00:01:23:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so along with shorts, it also YouTube has the offering of a thing called the community tab and some other fun features. So we're going to explore two of my favorite features in the community tab. And a third feature that I really like, the podcast feed. I'll talk to you all about that. And then we are going to dive in a full crash course on how to shoot, film and upload YouTube shorts, how to post, what to post, how often you should post, and finally, make sure you stick around all the way to the very end of the video.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because my all time favorite feature, especially for youth ministries, I'm going to share with you all the way at the end. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. Well, hey everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. If you and I haven't had chance to meet yet, my name is Nick Clason and I am a youth pastor currently serving in the DFW Dallas Fort Worth area, and I started a YouTube channel for my church in January of 2023.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And today when this thing posts, today at the day of filming, we have 573 subscribers. You might be wondering, like, how did that happen? And in a lot of ways, it was due to YouTube shorts and some of the other features embedded in YouTube. Now, one of the knocks on YouTube is that it doesn't act and operate like some of the other social networks, but the fact of the matter is, like Instagram is almost completely overwhelmed by millennials

00:02:15:17 - 00:02:37:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Those who have settled in as Instagram as their platform of choice. And so generation Z over on TikTok and now Generation Alpha coming up behind and 95% of your students on YouTube, there may be some features that things like Facebook and Instagram and TikTok have to offer that we didn't think YouTube does, but now they do. And so three of those features that I really like.

00:02:37:23 - 00:03:06:02
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The first one is the community tab. And one of the ways in which I utilize the community tab is through posting things similar, like you might see on Instagram called Carousel posts, which, by the way, if you grab my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen or down in the show notes, wherever you're listening to this, you'll notice that my weekly schedule is encapsulated by almost 100% vertical short form videos, and I really only make 1 or 2 graphic style posts.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Let me say that in the new wave and in 2024 and beyond, I would like to increase my offerings of graphic post education based posts. Honestly, the Goat right now is Brady Shear over at Pro Tools. His Instagram is phenom and also you need to go check out what he's doing there. I'd love to start posting more things like that in our student ministry.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And the good news is that YouTube offers that functionality and it's called the community tab. Right? Like TikTok might let you post just some photos on their thing, and they're starting to do that as well. But YouTube has added the community tab, and the community tab can get a little bit tricky. I have manually, started pointing our students towards it, because it's, it is a little bit of like the least known feature on YouTube, but you can offer things like carousel posts.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You can also offer things like polls. And we use that in some of our voting, which linked right here at the top of the screen is one of my all time favorite events, called the World's Greatest Donut. And it's a voting event. So students are voting for this donut versus that donut. And so if you want a full breakdown on how to use that and all the assets that go with it, check that video out, link down below.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that video is all the things that you're going to need in order to grab the world's greatest donut. It's also linked down below in the show notes as well, but you can post polls on YouTube, you can post polls on the community tab, and I just point students towards it. And as long as they have the app and are subscribed to us, they can, rifle on over to the community tab.

00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if they start engaging with the community tab from our channel on a regular basis, then it'll begin to show in their YouTube home screen, on their feed, on their algorithm. And so the ones the accounts that I interact with on the community tab, I see more and more often. And so you might think like, oh, we can't use YouTube only because it doesn't have some of the features like votes and polls and posts and links like Facebook and Instagram do.

00:04:58:11 - 00:05:32:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And that's just false. Like YouTube does offer a lot of these same functionalities. And so I love those things to lean into, to create more of a community than just me blasting videos out on YouTube or, or viewing YouTube as my video holding container. It is now a much more robust social media platform. The third idea YouTube has recently introduced is podcasts, and it looks when you're posting it, it'll show up in the playlist dropdown option as this another like thing, another playlist option.

00:05:32:06 - 00:05:54:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you select the podcast option. And then it dumps every single video that's checked in your, video containers, all of your videos, any ones that are checked as a podcast, it'll drop it into what looks like a playlist. And so it's called a podcast and it is a little bit new. And so there is there are still some kinks, I believe, being worked out by YouTube.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But a couple of different ideas is if you want to have like a podcast with some students, like that could be an option. You could post some videos to YouTube. And so people who follow you or subscribe to you or have interacted with your videos, they will see them, but they can no to go and navigate directly to the podcast feature on your YouTube channel and go ahead and check that out.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Also, an idea that we have, I'm toying around with doing this and I'm thinking about offering it is putting our leader a leader, podcast over there on YouTube as well. So it will be included on our full YouTube channel, but particularly in the podcast, feed, which, like I said, looks and acts and seems a lot like a playlist.

00:06:33:05 - 00:06:48:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But we're going to start doing some stories and some wins and celebrate some of our leaders, as well as offer some training. We're looking to do like a weekly one under 20 minutes and just kind of like an on the go training for our leaders. And I think the YouTube podcast feed is a phenomenal place to do it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now we are going to offer probably an audio only version as well using like RSS, and they can get it through their Apple iTunes, or Apple podcast feed catcher as well. But YouTube does allow us to have like a place to put those things as well. Not so YouTube shorts, right? When I started posting early on the days of our YouTube channel, my YouTube shorts got tons and tons of traction.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And I think that the algorithm, because we were new, because we were trying it out, I think the algorithm was rewarding us a little bit. But if you open your you up your YouTube app and right here you just select this plus button, you'll notice it does give you a few options. So that's where you might, you know, put a post, might put a poll or some other like options to your community people.

00:07:32:02 - 00:07:46:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But this option right here, if you click shorts, will give you the option now to film or upload a short. And so of course if you want to film it, it's got this camera functionality. You just hit the camera button and get going, do a selfie style video or turn it around and film whatever's out in front of you.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if you are following my playlist here and you have prerecorded your messages and you've used Open Stop Pro, which is linked down below in the show notes, and you want to, upload a video that you've already downloaded from your phone or from like a Google Drive or Dropbox link. This would be where you would select it.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And then from this point forward, it's now included. Now you'll notice that YouTube shorts only allows 60 second clips, and so YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram and Facebook Reels, similar pieces of content. Those other three, not YouTube allow longer than a minute. So any video uploaded on to YouTube that is vertically based, either on desktop or on mobile will be automatically converted into shorts, and then we'll be put in the shorts feed kind of container on YouTube.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so you can create longer than a minute ones that will also upload to Instagram or, you know, TikTok. But because of YouTube's length limit at 60s, every single video that I produce personally, I keep under 60 seconds. That way I can post across all 3 or 4 platforms all at the same time, all at the same video, all the same type of content.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so it's uploaded. If it goes beyond 60s, it's going to clip it or shave it. And so you're going to just want to make sure that you keep whatever you are posting at that 60 second limit. And then here off to the side, this is where you might add like text or, you know, add some other features. And then right up here at the top, this is where you might add some music as well.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so it's similar. If you've ever used Instagram Reels or TikTok it's similar interface. They're all a little bit different. But once you've kind of done all the editing here, you'll go to the next screen. And this is where you post it. And YouTube only offers like 100 to 160 characters here on the title. and you could go back in after you upload it onto desktop.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I have not found a way to do it on mobile yet. I guess unless you go into the YouTube studio app, which is a whole separate app to add things like tags and longer descriptions, but essentially you're just adding the title. Now what this looks like on the home screen is you get three to 4 to 5 words of visibility, depending on the number of characters.

00:09:52:22 - 00:10:20:15
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And in my opinion, that actually tends to be what draws me to click a YouTube short. And so you might consider putting an emoji. Here you go to like emojipedia emoji. emojipedia.org or whatever to copy and paste in emoji. or just use one from your phone. Obviously if you're posting on mobile, and from there then you'll be able right to, to type maybe eye catching or hook inducing kind of title.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Now, the question you might be asking is like, what do I post? Right? Well, if you've been following this playlist again, I recommend using Opus.Pro to get your long form teaching videos, which you have done by sitting down direct camera in front of a cell phone. You've upload that to opus. It's giving you however many clips.

00:10:36:10 - 00:10:54:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I personally use three opus clips per week that are sermon based, and then the rest. I'm doing fun stuff, right? I might do some educational or spiritual based content that's not message related. I might do some spiritual practice videos, but I'm also going to do a lot of fun stuff. And I view my social media and again linked down below in my e-book.

00:10:54:01 - 00:11:08:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Grab that if you want my full strategy on what you should be posting on your social media. But I give you ideas and I give instructions on how to do it, what to post, ideas and things to use, how to include your students, how to include your volunteers, how to include your other staff, how to just include yourself.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But creating content that is based I and and optimized for social media because social media is much more than just an announcement platform, social media is a chance for us to produce entertaining and fun and relevant content that people actually get on social media to consume. And so post some sermon clips and post some fun clips so you have a good variety of both, and that you're giving a good picture of what you and your church is all about.

00:11:36:18 - 00:12:02:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But then, I recommend what I do right now is I post two times per day, five days per week. I take weekends off, and whatever rhythm works best for you. And I was in a heavy, heavy growth mode. I did three times a day. I've backed it down to two times a day. but also, if you can only post one time a day or one time every other day, so that you're like 3 to 4 times a week, whatever you do, just show up regularly.

00:12:02:26 - 00:12:29:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And if you are sitting down and taking the time to pre film your messages, you have that content to then help supplement what you post on social media. So if you do a long form video and you're just getting started and you want to do a sermon clip, do one sermon clip and then do two other types of clips, one fun, one with your students and then one other selfie style video where you're just giving, a continuation or devotional thought from the message of that week.

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Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And boom, there's three posts, one every other day, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and you're good to go. Another thing that we as youth pastors have in our back pocket at any given time is recap videos like ten, 3 to 5 second clips that you put into like a cap cut template or something like that. And you can create a Wednesday night or Sunday night or whatever night your youth night is.

00:12:50:04 - 00:13:08:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Recap very, very easily, without a lot of work, without a lot of editing. And those things perform really well on social media because not only are students looking for themselves, but parents also are looking to see if they're students having a good time at youth group. But once you're ready to post over here, back on the post screen for the YouTube shorts.

00:13:08:11 - 00:13:42:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
This is my favorite feature and it's unique to YouTube because we are posting our messages, our long form messages to YouTube. And so when you post short, you can link it to a featured video. And so when I post a sermon clip, I link it to my long form sermon video. So if someone stumbles across our video on the YouTube shorts feed and they're just scrolling through and they're stopped because of the hook or the text on screen or whatever the case might be, and it it in a it captures their imagination and it makes them start thinking and they start wondering, and they want to explore more.

00:13:42:25 - 00:14:04:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Boom. Right here at the bottom of the video is a full featured video, and it will take them over to that. And that's one fantastic way to grow on social media. And it especially works well for those of us in youth ministry who are pre filming our messages, and are then also growing and posting via the community tab and on YouTube shorts.

00:14:04:27 - 00:14:21:07
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Listen, I know it's been a lot of work. I know we've been like adjusting our time management. But in the next video I want to take you to is I want to show you our full church studio. We took one room in our church and we completely revamped it for a studio. I'm going to give you the tour.

00:14:21:12 - 00:14:36:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm going to go through all the gear. I'm going to talk through all the equipment. I'm also going to share with you some of the different concepts and how we utilize and use it. All of that is going to be here in the very next video, which is linked right here directly on screen. I hope to see you over in that video.

00:14:36:27 - 00:14:41:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And don't forget and as always, to stay hybrid.

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And then thirdly, and finally to teach. Teaching is one of the primary functions that all of us accomplish as members of the local church, as churches and pastors and leaders. Teaching Disciples of Christ is one of the primary ways in which we raise them up to become more and more in the image of Christ. 00:00:27:05 - 00:00:52:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So teaching takes all kinds of different forms, but one of the main forms is through a sermon. And so if you've ever sat through a sermon, then go ahead and like this video because we're going to talk about rethinking teaching a little bit in this video. If you've ever delivered a sermon of your own, then give us a subscribe because we're going to help you craft that in a way that can live in exist on YouTube in a hybrid manner. 00:00:52:01 - 00:01:16:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, well, regardless of whether you're in either of those camps, turn the bell on. Because in this playlist, we want to help you navigate teaching in YouTube and in a playlist like right here at the very top of this video. We are in a series in the video playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. Whether you're in youth ministry or in church ministry, this playlist is all aimed at helping you and your church become relevant. 00:01:16:23 - 00:01:43:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And postings on YouTube that can live beyond just a one time meeting. And so one question that I've been grappling with in this entire playlist is does teaching is it required and mandated to be in person? Obviously, all of us like when things are in person and it feels more comfortable. But in today's video, we'll unpack that question and we'll explore these three things. 00:01:43:16 - 00:02:08:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Number one, in person versus online based teaching. Number two, the best teaching component that I believe is already embedded in included in the YouTube algorithm and is a huge and strategic advantage for most churches. And finally, how do you reduce your nightly commitments of being out of the house and in church? Meeting, and how do you how you reduce that by half? 00:02:08:17 - 00:02:41:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show, Well, hey everyone and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And we are on the downhill slope of YouTube for youth ministry. We're on episode 96 here, which means we're only four away from the 100th episode. And I have a really special and very different interview style, hundredth episode coming up. It is going to be awesome, but we are in this playlist, here now talking about YouTube for youth ministry and one of the kind of key grapplings is does teaching have to be in-person versus online? 00:02:41:08 - 00:03:04:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And little spoiler. The second point of this video is talking about the best component included in YouTube, and that is playlists. And that's what we're going to be looking into today, is creating playlists for YouTube and youth ministry, and how you can go about, like adding your teachings to YouTube. But the first question, I think, probably demands a little bit more of a philosophical response. 00:03:04:22 - 00:03:49:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right? Does teaching is it required to be together in person? And so, let's just be honest. Let's talk about a couple of things. First of all, online and the internet is phenomenal, right? For a couple of different things. And in-person is phenomenal for a couple of different things. And they are uniquely different. And so one of the reasons why we we can't just only like live stream our videos to the internet and leave it at that without coming back behind it and optimizing it for the internet is because that's created for an in-person moment and, like a YouTube video or a podcast. 00:03:49:06 - 00:04:20:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Those are created for like online types of learnings or conversations. And so I think that online is actually a fantastic content delivery source. And I think in some cases, raise your hand. Give me a like comment below. If you've ever been in a PTA meeting or if you've ever sat through like a government presentation that is like PowerPoint heavy, or if you've ever been to like something from your kid's school that you're like, man, I could have done this better, right? 00:04:20:26 - 00:04:41:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because it's boring. And they're just they're like kind of droning on like the Charlie Brown teacher. But the internet is actually strategically, uniquely positioned to be really good for content delivery. We have things like podcasts, we have things like online courses, we have things like YouTube videos just like this. In fact, what I would love to do is offer. 00:04:41:23 - 00:05:05:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right now I'm offering three slots and I have one of them already filled, but three slots of 100% free, online hybrid and or YouTube coaching. And so if you're looking to go from ground zero to actually doing something on the internet, I'm offering four sessions of coaching 100% completely free to you. All I ask is that you actually use my service and that you give me a killer review. 00:05:05:26 - 00:05:25:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you believe that my services demand that. But I want to help you get up and off the ground because there are a lot of opportunities on the internet now. But that being said, you and I are like, well, bro, listen, we did this. We lived during Covid. We know how much it stunk to be forced to be only online. 00:05:25:21 - 00:05:52:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And and we all missed in-person. And that is 100% true because in-person ministry and in-person moments are best for things like community and things like relationships. Just like you can teach a message while you're in-person, you can deliver content while you're in-person. Online offers a unique opportunity for that. And in the same way, you can experience community online things like discord channels. 00:05:52:18 - 00:06:12:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm a big Oklahoma City Thunder fan. I actually means a lot of community through things like Twitter. during Thunder games, or people who play online video games. So community is also possible online, but we all know it's best nearly eye to eye, shoulder to shoulder. That's what things like small groups and discipleship often happen best in in-person settings. 00:06:12:23 - 00:06:35:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, you know, there are also moments where, an in-person group, we meet together, but we have a group chat that stays pretty active throughout the week. And that's one of the ways that we stay connected to one another. That's the power of hybrid. And so in most cases, most churches I've ever been to or seen are using in utilizing in-person trainings in their teachings. 00:06:35:14 - 00:07:09:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That element of the Great Commission as, must see-TV. โ€œHey parents, we have a screen time workshop and it is on Saturday at 11 a.m. hope to see you there.โ€ As if that content can't be captured and recorded and disseminated otherwise. And afterwards. Because what's our goal? Do we want parents to be equipped and learn the information that we're presenting, or do we want their butts in the seats to cover our attendance numbers? 00:07:09:24 - 00:07:40:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so while it's necessary, I'm not proposing giving away and and doing away with in-person teachings. Right, I do I do want you to understand that it doesn't always have to be an in-person experience. And YouTube gives us a really amazing opportunity to do that. And I'll actually help you get started in this for free. Link down below is my 100% completely free hybrid strategy guide going from zero to actually starting to do something. 00:07:40:11 - 00:08:04:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And one of those elements is recording videos and posting them to YouTube. I have a gear list in that e-book for under $100 to get you going, with cell phones and tripods and microphones to get up and running and start recording some videos and posting them to YouTube. Next, we're going to look at what YouTube already has, which is this component called playlists. 00:08:04:23 - 00:08:26:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So anything that you might be tempted to turn into a class or a meeting or a workshop or a meetup or an after church, like pizza with the pastor sort of thing, any one of those that isn't like relationally charged, I believe. And even if they are relationally charged, we can pivot and reposition the way that we're doing it so that it can be included in a YouTube playlist. 00:08:26:20 - 00:08:52:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry However, playlists are basically like free courses on YouTube's platform. So like, here's just a few examples and ideas of things that you could use in a playlist setting, but it's not limited to these things. You. The sky is truly the limit, and anything that you feel like you could use or might need down the road in the future, like you can take these and use them. 00:08:52:03 - 00:09:11:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So like we this is one we have done. We created a like baptism class. Like what is the theology behind it? Why do we do it? what are the biblical implications for it? And so we just filmed a little videos explaining those things. You can also do one on like the Lord's Supper or you know why we take it, the symbolism behind it. 00:09:12:00 - 00:09:37:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You could do like an Old Testament survey, a New Testament style survey. You could do a playlist on like spiritual gifts and volunteering in the church. And so first like figuring out what your spiritual gifts are, and then second, like how to discover where the opportunities are. You could do one on lust, and purity and battling like addiction. And that way you could do ones for parents on like screens and technology. 00:09:37:08 - 00:10:07:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry you could also do one on like the problem of evil. Why do bad things happen? People are always asking that question. It's a really relevant topic. Leader trainings, parent workshops. Like, you know, in the video link down below, we talked about the importance of asking and answering specific questions for students. And so while a good strategy is answering specific questions for teenagers in the land of this playlist conversation, you're doing that with your sermon series as well. 00:10:08:04 - 00:10:26:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But what's like a question? You know that, like you have to answer on a pretty frequent basis that you could capture and post to YouTube? And I get it. You're like, well, I've done the the work, the content. I've sat in front of a camera and delivered it. But now, like, I want to make sure it looks like good for YouTube. 00:10:26:12 - 00:10:49:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And hey, I also, in addition to free coaching, I'm also offering a limited time offer for some free video editing. And so if you want 4 or 5 professionally done videos that you can include into a playlist type format, I would love to help you do that same stipulation as the coaching. Just use it and just leave me a review and you can get more information for that down below. 00:10:49:27 - 00:11:13:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry In the show notes. And all of this leaning into hybrid, leaning into digital. Right. Let's be honest, it's going to help you default into being able to spend more time at home because whenever we're like, โ€œoh man, we need to host this parent meeting.โ€ And we already got Wednesday nights, we already got Sunday night. So I need to figure out another night of the week that parents are available to host an informational meeting. 00:11:13:13 - 00:11:37:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so that has to be like a Monday night or a Tuesday night or a Thursday night or whatever the case may be. Right? We we default into hosting those things in in-person meetings. And so start asking yourself this question is, โ€œCan this content be covered in a digital format?โ€ Can this content go on a YouTube playlist?โ€ It's great for sermon series. 00:11:37:10 - 00:11:57:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry By the way, if you start, pre filming your messages like any message is a playlist. Any course can be a playlist. And now I get it. You're like, well, โ€œI really want to be like in-person and like working this out with the students,โ€ then yes, by all means, you should be doing those types of things in person. 00:11:57:11 - 00:12:17:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if it's strictly an information style, transfer of things like that can very easily be recorded and sent out and you get to do the recording and the sending out in the editing and all the components that go along with it in your office hours, and you get to do that and then be home at night with your family. 00:12:17:17 - 00:12:46:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when should a meeting be in person? When do we we make the decision that this one, this one needs to be in person? Well, often we default to having it in person for things like accountability. I want to I want to be sure that they're watching this, that they're consuming this information. But if you've ever seen, like the learning, the learning triangle pyramid, like only 5% of people retain information from auditory lecture style based teachings. 00:12:46:05 - 00:13:14:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so often the thing we're saying when we say, I want to ensure that they get this content is we want to force them to be there because we don't actually trust them to consume the information on their own time. And in some cases, that might be valid, right? But rarely is the content delivery in the style actually more captivating than setting them up with some good content and some good editing in a YouTube or a podcast style environment. 00:13:15:00 - 00:13:38:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So here's a fact regardless, like as you as you're measuring these things out like why in-person, when in person should it be in person? YouTube has a ton to offer, one of which is what we just talked about here playlists. We're actually going to explore a couple other really cool features in the YouTube platform called, the shorts feature and the community tab. 00:13:38:12 - 00:13:57:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That video is going to be linked right here on the screen. So if you're ready to jump into episode 97, hit that on screen. Catch us over there on the next one. Don't forget. And as always, we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible. So stay hybrid. YouTube Playlists, How to Post a Video to a YouTube Playlist, How to use YouTube Playlists, YouTube for Youth Ministry, Hybrid Ministry, Nick Clason, Reaching Teenagers Online, Teaching for Students ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Custom Social Coaching for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ

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And when we lean into them, you can start to get time back for your family during the evenings.

Anything that you might be tempted to turn into a meeting can become a playlist.
We'll show you everything you need from philosophy behind online teaching as well as how to get started posted playlists on YouTube.

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Teaching and the Local Church
02:12 In-Person vs. Online Teaching
08:05 YouTube Playlists for Churches
10:53 How to Get more Time at Home

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:27:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The Great Commission of Jesus tells us to make disciples, to then baptize people. And then thirdly, and finally to teach. Teaching is one of the primary functions that all of us accomplish as members of the local church, as churches and pastors and leaders. Teaching Disciples of Christ is one of the primary ways in which we raise them up to become more and more in the image of Christ.

00:00:27:05 - 00:00:52:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So teaching takes all kinds of different forms, but one of the main forms is through a sermon. And so if you've ever sat through a sermon, then go ahead and like this video because we're going to talk about rethinking teaching a little bit in this video. If you've ever delivered a sermon of your own, then give us a subscribe because we're going to help you craft that in a way that can live in exist on YouTube in a hybrid manner.

00:00:52:01 - 00:01:16:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, well, regardless of whether you're in either of those camps, turn the bell on. Because in this playlist, we want to help you navigate teaching in YouTube and in a playlist like right here at the very top of this video. We are in a series in the video playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. Whether you're in youth ministry or in church ministry, this playlist is all aimed at helping you and your church become relevant.

00:01:16:23 - 00:01:43:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And postings on YouTube that can live beyond just a one time meeting. And so one question that I've been grappling with in this entire playlist is does teaching is it required and mandated to be in person? Obviously, all of us like when things are in person and it feels more comfortable. But in today's video, we'll unpack that question and we'll explore these three things.

00:01:43:16 - 00:02:08:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Number one, in person versus online based teaching. Number two, the best teaching component that I believe is already embedded in included in the YouTube algorithm and is a huge and strategic advantage for most churches. And finally, how do you reduce your nightly commitments of being out of the house and in church? Meeting, and how do you how you reduce that by half?

00:02:08:17 - 00:02:41:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show, Well, hey everyone and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And we are on the downhill slope of YouTube for youth ministry. We're on episode 96 here, which means we're only four away from the 100th episode. And I have a really special and very different interview style, hundredth episode coming up. It is going to be awesome, but we are in this playlist, here now talking about YouTube for youth ministry and one of the kind of key grapplings is does teaching have to be in-person versus online?

00:02:41:08 - 00:03:04:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And little spoiler. The second point of this video is talking about the best component included in YouTube, and that is playlists. And that's what we're going to be looking into today, is creating playlists for YouTube and youth ministry, and how you can go about, like adding your teachings to YouTube. But the first question, I think, probably demands a little bit more of a philosophical response.

00:03:04:22 - 00:03:49:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right? Does teaching is it required to be together in person? And so, let's just be honest. Let's talk about a couple of things. First of all, online and the internet is phenomenal, right? For a couple of different things. And in-person is phenomenal for a couple of different things. And they are uniquely different. And so one of the reasons why we we can't just only like live stream our videos to the internet and leave it at that without coming back behind it and optimizing it for the internet is because that's created for an in-person moment and, like a YouTube video or a podcast.

00:03:49:06 - 00:04:20:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Those are created for like online types of learnings or conversations. And so I think that online is actually a fantastic content delivery source. And I think in some cases, raise your hand. Give me a like comment below. If you've ever been in a PTA meeting or if you've ever sat through like a government presentation that is like PowerPoint heavy, or if you've ever been to like something from your kid's school that you're like, man, I could have done this better, right?

00:04:20:26 - 00:04:41:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because it's boring. And they're just they're like kind of droning on like the Charlie Brown teacher. But the internet is actually strategically, uniquely positioned to be really good for content delivery. We have things like podcasts, we have things like online courses, we have things like YouTube videos just like this. In fact, what I would love to do is offer.

00:04:41:23 - 00:05:05:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right now I'm offering three slots and I have one of them already filled, but three slots of 100% free, online hybrid and or YouTube coaching. And so if you're looking to go from ground zero to actually doing something on the internet, I'm offering four sessions of coaching 100% completely free to you. All I ask is that you actually use my service and that you give me a killer review.

00:05:05:26 - 00:05:25:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you believe that my services demand that. But I want to help you get up and off the ground because there are a lot of opportunities on the internet now. But that being said, you and I are like, well, bro, listen, we did this. We lived during Covid. We know how much it stunk to be forced to be only online.

00:05:25:21 - 00:05:52:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and we all missed in-person. And that is 100% true because in-person ministry and in-person moments are best for things like community and things like relationships. Just like you can teach a message while you're in-person, you can deliver content while you're in-person. Online offers a unique opportunity for that. And in the same way, you can experience community online things like discord channels.

00:05:52:18 - 00:06:12:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm a big Oklahoma City Thunder fan. I actually means a lot of community through things like Twitter. during Thunder games, or people who play online video games. So community is also possible online, but we all know it's best nearly eye to eye, shoulder to shoulder. That's what things like small groups and discipleship often happen best in in-person settings.

00:06:12:23 - 00:06:35:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, you know, there are also moments where, an in-person group, we meet together, but we have a group chat that stays pretty active throughout the week. And that's one of the ways that we stay connected to one another. That's the power of hybrid. And so in most cases, most churches I've ever been to or seen are using in utilizing in-person trainings in their teachings.

00:06:35:14 - 00:07:09:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That element of the Great Commission as, must see-TV. โ€œHey parents, we have a screen time workshop and it is on Saturday at 11 a.m. hope to see you there.โ€ As if that content can't be captured and recorded and disseminated otherwise. And afterwards. Because what's our goal? Do we want parents to be equipped and learn the information that we're presenting, or do we want their butts in the seats to cover our attendance numbers?

00:07:09:24 - 00:07:40:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so while it's necessary, I'm not proposing giving away and and doing away with in-person teachings. Right, I do I do want you to understand that it doesn't always have to be an in-person experience. And YouTube gives us a really amazing opportunity to do that. And I'll actually help you get started in this for free. Link down below is my 100% completely free hybrid strategy guide going from zero to actually starting to do something.

00:07:40:11 - 00:08:04:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And one of those elements is recording videos and posting them to YouTube. I have a gear list in that e-book for under $100 to get you going, with cell phones and tripods and microphones to get up and running and start recording some videos and posting them to YouTube. Next, we're going to look at what YouTube already has, which is this component called playlists.

00:08:04:23 - 00:08:26:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So anything that you might be tempted to turn into a class or a meeting or a workshop or a meetup or an after church, like pizza with the pastor sort of thing, any one of those that isn't like relationally charged, I believe. And even if they are relationally charged, we can pivot and reposition the way that we're doing it so that it can be included in a YouTube playlist.

00:08:26:20 - 00:08:52:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, playlists are basically like free courses on YouTube's platform. So like, here's just a few examples and ideas of things that you could use in a playlist setting, but it's not limited to these things. You. The sky is truly the limit, and anything that you feel like you could use or might need down the road in the future, like you can take these and use them.

00:08:52:03 - 00:09:11:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like we this is one we have done. We created a like baptism class. Like what is the theology behind it? Why do we do it? what are the biblical implications for it? And so we just filmed a little videos explaining those things. You can also do one on like the Lord's Supper or you know why we take it, the symbolism behind it.

00:09:12:00 - 00:09:37:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You could do like an Old Testament survey, a New Testament style survey. You could do a playlist on like spiritual gifts and volunteering in the church. And so first like figuring out what your spiritual gifts are, and then second, like how to discover where the opportunities are. You could do one on lust, and purity and battling like addiction. And that way you could do ones for parents on like screens and technology.

00:09:37:08 - 00:10:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you could also do one on like the problem of evil. Why do bad things happen? People are always asking that question. It's a really relevant topic. Leader trainings, parent workshops. Like, you know, in the video link down below, we talked about the importance of asking and answering specific questions for students. And so while a good strategy is answering specific questions for teenagers in the land of this playlist conversation, you're doing that with your sermon series as well.

00:10:08:04 - 00:10:26:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But what's like a question? You know that, like you have to answer on a pretty frequent basis that you could capture and post to YouTube? And I get it. You're like, well, I've done the the work, the content. I've sat in front of a camera and delivered it. But now, like, I want to make sure it looks like good for YouTube.

00:10:26:12 - 00:10:49:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And hey, I also, in addition to free coaching, I'm also offering a limited time offer for some free video editing. And so if you want 4 or 5 professionally done videos that you can include into a playlist type format, I would love to help you do that same stipulation as the coaching. Just use it and just leave me a review and you can get more information for that down below.

00:10:49:27 - 00:11:13:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In the show notes. And all of this leaning into hybrid, leaning into digital. Right. Let's be honest, it's going to help you default into being able to spend more time at home because whenever we're like, โ€œoh man, we need to host this parent meeting.โ€ And we already got Wednesday nights, we already got Sunday night. So I need to figure out another night of the week that parents are available to host an informational meeting.

00:11:13:13 - 00:11:37:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that has to be like a Monday night or a Tuesday night or a Thursday night or whatever the case may be. Right? We we default into hosting those things in in-person meetings. And so start asking yourself this question is, โ€œCan this content be covered in a digital format?โ€ Can this content go on a YouTube playlist?โ€ It's great for sermon series.

00:11:37:10 - 00:11:57:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
By the way, if you start, pre filming your messages like any message is a playlist. Any course can be a playlist. And now I get it. You're like, well, โ€œI really want to be like in-person and like working this out with the students,โ€ then yes, by all means, you should be doing those types of things in person.

00:11:57:11 - 00:12:17:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if it's strictly an information style, transfer of things like that can very easily be recorded and sent out and you get to do the recording and the sending out in the editing and all the components that go along with it in your office hours, and you get to do that and then be home at night with your family.

00:12:17:17 - 00:12:46:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when should a meeting be in person? When do we we make the decision that this one, this one needs to be in person? Well, often we default to having it in person for things like accountability. I want to I want to be sure that they're watching this, that they're consuming this information. But if you've ever seen, like the learning, the learning triangle pyramid, like only 5% of people retain information from auditory lecture style based teachings.

00:12:46:05 - 00:13:14:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so often the thing we're saying when we say, I want to ensure that they get this content is we want to force them to be there because we don't actually trust them to consume the information on their own time. And in some cases, that might be valid, right? But rarely is the content delivery in the style actually more captivating than setting them up with some good content and some good editing in a YouTube or a podcast style environment.

00:13:15:00 - 00:13:38:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So here's a fact regardless, like as you as you're measuring these things out like why in-person, when in person should it be in person? YouTube has a ton to offer, one of which is what we just talked about here playlists. We're actually going to explore a couple other really cool features in the YouTube platform called, the shorts feature and the community tab.

00:13:38:12 - 00:13:57:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That video is going to be linked right here on the screen. So if you're ready to jump into episode 97, hit that on screen. Catch us over there on the next one. Don't forget. And as always, we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible. So stay hybrid.

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YouTube Playists are a fantastic way to offer courses and learnings for your church.
And when we lean into them, you can start to get time back for your family during the evenings.

Anything that you might be tempted to turn into a meeting can become a playlist.
We'll show you everything you need from philosophy behind online teaching as well as how to get started posted playlists on YouTube.

FULL PLAYLIST
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Teaching and the Local Church
02:12 In-Person vs. Online Teaching
08:05 YouTube Playlists for Churches
10:53 How to Get more Time at Home

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:27:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
The Great Commission of Jesus tells us to make disciples, to then baptize people. And then thirdly, and finally to teach. Teaching is one of the primary functions that all of us accomplish as members of the local church, as churches and pastors and leaders. Teaching Disciples of Christ is one of the primary ways in which we raise them up to become more and more in the image of Christ.

00:00:27:05 - 00:00:52:01
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So teaching takes all kinds of different forms, but one of the main forms is through a sermon. And so if you've ever sat through a sermon, then go ahead and like this video because we're going to talk about rethinking teaching a little bit in this video. If you've ever delivered a sermon of your own, then give us a subscribe because we're going to help you craft that in a way that can live in exist on YouTube in a hybrid manner.

00:00:52:01 - 00:01:16:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And, well, regardless of whether you're in either of those camps, turn the bell on. Because in this playlist, we want to help you navigate teaching in YouTube and in a playlist like right here at the very top of this video. We are in a series in the video playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. Whether you're in youth ministry or in church ministry, this playlist is all aimed at helping you and your church become relevant.

00:01:16:23 - 00:01:43:16
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And postings on YouTube that can live beyond just a one time meeting. And so one question that I've been grappling with in this entire playlist is does teaching is it required and mandated to be in person? Obviously, all of us like when things are in person and it feels more comfortable. But in today's video, we'll unpack that question and we'll explore these three things.

00:01:43:16 - 00:02:08:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Number one, in person versus online based teaching. Number two, the best teaching component that I believe is already embedded in included in the YouTube algorithm and is a huge and strategic advantage for most churches. And finally, how do you reduce your nightly commitments of being out of the house and in church? Meeting, and how do you how you reduce that by half?

00:02:08:17 - 00:02:41:08
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show, Well, hey everyone and welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And we are on the downhill slope of YouTube for youth ministry. We're on episode 96 here, which means we're only four away from the 100th episode. And I have a really special and very different interview style, hundredth episode coming up. It is going to be awesome, but we are in this playlist, here now talking about YouTube for youth ministry and one of the kind of key grapplings is does teaching have to be in-person versus online?

00:02:41:08 - 00:03:04:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And little spoiler. The second point of this video is talking about the best component included in YouTube, and that is playlists. And that's what we're going to be looking into today, is creating playlists for YouTube and youth ministry, and how you can go about, like adding your teachings to YouTube. But the first question, I think, probably demands a little bit more of a philosophical response.

00:03:04:22 - 00:03:49:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right? Does teaching is it required to be together in person? And so, let's just be honest. Let's talk about a couple of things. First of all, online and the internet is phenomenal, right? For a couple of different things. And in-person is phenomenal for a couple of different things. And they are uniquely different. And so one of the reasons why we we can't just only like live stream our videos to the internet and leave it at that without coming back behind it and optimizing it for the internet is because that's created for an in-person moment and, like a YouTube video or a podcast.

00:03:49:06 - 00:04:20:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Those are created for like online types of learnings or conversations. And so I think that online is actually a fantastic content delivery source. And I think in some cases, raise your hand. Give me a like comment below. If you've ever been in a PTA meeting or if you've ever sat through like a government presentation that is like PowerPoint heavy, or if you've ever been to like something from your kid's school that you're like, man, I could have done this better, right?

00:04:20:26 - 00:04:41:22
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Because it's boring. And they're just they're like kind of droning on like the Charlie Brown teacher. But the internet is actually strategically, uniquely positioned to be really good for content delivery. We have things like podcasts, we have things like online courses, we have things like YouTube videos just like this. In fact, what I would love to do is offer.

00:04:41:23 - 00:05:05:26
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right now I'm offering three slots and I have one of them already filled, but three slots of 100% free, online hybrid and or YouTube coaching. And so if you're looking to go from ground zero to actually doing something on the internet, I'm offering four sessions of coaching 100% completely free to you. All I ask is that you actually use my service and that you give me a killer review.

00:05:05:26 - 00:05:25:21
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
If you believe that my services demand that. But I want to help you get up and off the ground because there are a lot of opportunities on the internet now. But that being said, you and I are like, well, bro, listen, we did this. We lived during Covid. We know how much it stunk to be forced to be only online.

00:05:25:21 - 00:05:52:18
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And and we all missed in-person. And that is 100% true because in-person ministry and in-person moments are best for things like community and things like relationships. Just like you can teach a message while you're in-person, you can deliver content while you're in-person. Online offers a unique opportunity for that. And in the same way, you can experience community online things like discord channels.

00:05:52:18 - 00:06:12:23
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
I'm a big Oklahoma City Thunder fan. I actually means a lot of community through things like Twitter. during Thunder games, or people who play online video games. So community is also possible online, but we all know it's best nearly eye to eye, shoulder to shoulder. That's what things like small groups and discipleship often happen best in in-person settings.

00:06:12:23 - 00:06:35:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, you know, there are also moments where, an in-person group, we meet together, but we have a group chat that stays pretty active throughout the week. And that's one of the ways that we stay connected to one another. That's the power of hybrid. And so in most cases, most churches I've ever been to or seen are using in utilizing in-person trainings in their teachings.

00:06:35:14 - 00:07:09:24
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That element of the Great Commission as, must see-TV. โ€œHey parents, we have a screen time workshop and it is on Saturday at 11 a.m. hope to see you there.โ€ As if that content can't be captured and recorded and disseminated otherwise. And afterwards. Because what's our goal? Do we want parents to be equipped and learn the information that we're presenting, or do we want their butts in the seats to cover our attendance numbers?

00:07:09:24 - 00:07:40:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
Right. And so while it's necessary, I'm not proposing giving away and and doing away with in-person teachings. Right, I do I do want you to understand that it doesn't always have to be an in-person experience. And YouTube gives us a really amazing opportunity to do that. And I'll actually help you get started in this for free. Link down below is my 100% completely free hybrid strategy guide going from zero to actually starting to do something.

00:07:40:11 - 00:08:04:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And one of those elements is recording videos and posting them to YouTube. I have a gear list in that e-book for under $100 to get you going, with cell phones and tripods and microphones to get up and running and start recording some videos and posting them to YouTube. Next, we're going to look at what YouTube already has, which is this component called playlists.

00:08:04:23 - 00:08:26:20
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So anything that you might be tempted to turn into a class or a meeting or a workshop or a meetup or an after church, like pizza with the pastor sort of thing, any one of those that isn't like relationally charged, I believe. And even if they are relationally charged, we can pivot and reposition the way that we're doing it so that it can be included in a YouTube playlist.

00:08:26:20 - 00:08:52:03
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
However, playlists are basically like free courses on YouTube's platform. So like, here's just a few examples and ideas of things that you could use in a playlist setting, but it's not limited to these things. You. The sky is truly the limit, and anything that you feel like you could use or might need down the road in the future, like you can take these and use them.

00:08:52:03 - 00:09:11:28
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So like we this is one we have done. We created a like baptism class. Like what is the theology behind it? Why do we do it? what are the biblical implications for it? And so we just filmed a little videos explaining those things. You can also do one on like the Lord's Supper or you know why we take it, the symbolism behind it.

00:09:12:00 - 00:09:37:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
You could do like an Old Testament survey, a New Testament style survey. You could do a playlist on like spiritual gifts and volunteering in the church. And so first like figuring out what your spiritual gifts are, and then second, like how to discover where the opportunities are. You could do one on lust, and purity and battling like addiction. And that way you could do ones for parents on like screens and technology.

00:09:37:08 - 00:10:07:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
you could also do one on like the problem of evil. Why do bad things happen? People are always asking that question. It's a really relevant topic. Leader trainings, parent workshops. Like, you know, in the video link down below, we talked about the importance of asking and answering specific questions for students. And so while a good strategy is answering specific questions for teenagers in the land of this playlist conversation, you're doing that with your sermon series as well.

00:10:08:04 - 00:10:26:12
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But what's like a question? You know that, like you have to answer on a pretty frequent basis that you could capture and post to YouTube? And I get it. You're like, well, I've done the the work, the content. I've sat in front of a camera and delivered it. But now, like, I want to make sure it looks like good for YouTube.

00:10:26:12 - 00:10:49:27
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And hey, I also, in addition to free coaching, I'm also offering a limited time offer for some free video editing. And so if you want 4 or 5 professionally done videos that you can include into a playlist type format, I would love to help you do that same stipulation as the coaching. Just use it and just leave me a review and you can get more information for that down below.

00:10:49:27 - 00:11:13:11
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
In the show notes. And all of this leaning into hybrid, leaning into digital. Right. Let's be honest, it's going to help you default into being able to spend more time at home because whenever we're like, โ€œoh man, we need to host this parent meeting.โ€ And we already got Wednesday nights, we already got Sunday night. So I need to figure out another night of the week that parents are available to host an informational meeting.

00:11:13:13 - 00:11:37:10
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so that has to be like a Monday night or a Tuesday night or a Thursday night or whatever the case may be. Right? We we default into hosting those things in in-person meetings. And so start asking yourself this question is, โ€œCan this content be covered in a digital format?โ€ Can this content go on a YouTube playlist?โ€ It's great for sermon series.

00:11:37:10 - 00:11:57:04
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
By the way, if you start, pre filming your messages like any message is a playlist. Any course can be a playlist. And now I get it. You're like, well, โ€œI really want to be like in-person and like working this out with the students,โ€ then yes, by all means, you should be doing those types of things in person.

00:11:57:11 - 00:12:17:14
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
But if it's strictly an information style, transfer of things like that can very easily be recorded and sent out and you get to do the recording and the sending out in the editing and all the components that go along with it in your office hours, and you get to do that and then be home at night with your family.

00:12:17:17 - 00:12:46:05
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so when should a meeting be in person? When do we we make the decision that this one, this one needs to be in person? Well, often we default to having it in person for things like accountability. I want to I want to be sure that they're watching this, that they're consuming this information. But if you've ever seen, like the learning, the learning triangle pyramid, like only 5% of people retain information from auditory lecture style based teachings.

00:12:46:05 - 00:13:14:25
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
And so often the thing we're saying when we say, I want to ensure that they get this content is we want to force them to be there because we don't actually trust them to consume the information on their own time. And in some cases, that might be valid, right? But rarely is the content delivery in the style actually more captivating than setting them up with some good content and some good editing in a YouTube or a podcast style environment.

00:13:15:00 - 00:13:38:06
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
So here's a fact regardless, like as you as you're measuring these things out like why in-person, when in person should it be in person? YouTube has a ton to offer, one of which is what we just talked about here playlists. We're actually going to explore a couple other really cool features in the YouTube platform called, the shorts feature and the community tab.

00:13:38:12 - 00:13:57:19
Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry
That video is going to be linked right here on the screen. So if you're ready to jump into episode 97, hit that on screen. Catch us over there on the next one. Don't forget. And as always, we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible. So stay hybrid.

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In this episode we'll walk you through how to create Epic Titles SEO Infused Tags Meaningful Descriptions Links that get clicks Helpful Chapters Eye-Popping Thumbnails YouTube Cards & End Screens This step-by-step guide is your way to get started growing on YouTube, today! 18:42 no ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Video Editing for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/editing ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ====================================== DESCRIPTION Whether you think it or not, if you're a youth pastor, you're in the content creation business! In this episode we'll walk you through how to create โ€ขEpic Titles โ€ขSEO Infused Tags โ€ขMeaningful Descriptions โ€ขLinks that get clicks โ€ขHelpful Chapters โ€ขEye-Popping Thumbnails โ€ขYouTube Cards & End Screens This step-by-step guide is your way to get started growing on YouTube, today! 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What do all four of these people have in common? Well, all four of them, including you, by the way, are a content creator. And if you're a youth pastor, you are in the content creation business and maybe not yet creating online content, but you have the skill set necessary because we right now are in a playlist linked right here at the top of the screen where we are talking about YouTube for youth ministry. 00:00:38:18 - 00:01:07:10 Nick Clason And if you've done the things that we've talked about in this playlist so far, while you start pre-recording your messages and you start scoping them out ahead of time, and you start with the idea of posting them to YouTube, which, by the way, right now I'm offering a very limited time free editing offer. So if you pre film your messages and you want to send them to me, once you get to the whole kind of editing part, which tends to be what trips people up on YouTube, I would be happy to do that. 00:01:07:10 - 00:01:28:24 Nick Clason Click the link down below in the show notes and reach out and let me know and inquire if those spaces are still available. But you know, content is one thing, right? Like creating the content, shooting the content, even posting the content, right? But when you post it, there are actually some pretty incredibly important things that you need to make sure that you are doing. 00:01:29:00 - 00:02:00:16 Nick Clason And we are going to talk through all of those things today in this video where we are talking about your titling, your tags, your description, the links that you include in your description, how to make chapters, thumbnails, cards and end screens. I know it seems overwhelming, but let's hang out and let's dive into that today. So if you head on over to YouTube, once you've created an account and you click create and you click upload video, you will get a screen just like this and you will click select file. 00:02:00:16 - 00:02:20:11 Nick Clason And then you will begin uploading it. And once it begins to upload on YouTube it will look like this. So this is from episode 93 on video editing. And so I've already input all the details. But if you are watching, on YouTube right now, you'll see this. If you're on a podcast catcher, head to the link in the show notes and scrub ahead to this section. 00:02:20:11 - 00:02:41:23 Nick Clason But you will see right up here at the top your title. Now, this is what most people do in churches. This is certainly what we did in church, especially when we started in the middle of the pandemic. We had a show, it was called unscripted and we would, have them classify by seasons, which I thought was pretty cool and pretty innovative. 00:02:41:23 - 00:03:16:01 Nick Clason So we would say like unscripted season two episode four, which was great for us as far as indexing and titling and categorizing. However, think about this. If we had a lesson on unscripted that week and unscripted was every single thing in the, show. So that included like the game and the worship and all the thing. But like, if we had a message on suffering, let's say, like it would just say season two, episode four, there was no titling there that, you know, indicated, what the actual topic was of the message. 00:03:16:01 - 00:03:38:00 Nick Clason So your title, just like your thumbnail, both are really important as far as communicating to your audience what your video is going to be talking about. And so if you're in church, a lot of times we do this in churches where in the middle of like a series and we're like, David series, sermon three. Right. Which like, that's great. 00:03:38:00 - 00:04:00:27 Nick Clason And you can actually on YouTube really easily include your series into a thing called a playlist. And so they can all be included. David, you know, can be included into a playlist, but talk about what you're talking about, you know. So if you're talking about David and Bathsheba, maybe your title is like coming back from Giant Mistakes or leaning in to God's grace. 00:04:00:27 - 00:04:25:14 Nick Clason Right. And I'm going to talk to you in just a minute about ways that you can figure out the best words and the ways to title these things. But very simply, if you make this small shift from just creating it for your church people, where you're explaining, like David, you know, message three and instead shifting it to like what the actual topic is like, that is going to be one major and massive shift. 00:04:25:14 - 00:04:50:10 Nick Clason And in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen with a little bit of a rebrand, new new title, we are now switching the name if you've already downloaded it. Still the same content. I just changed the title to The Complete Hybrid Strategy Guide. and we actually talked to you, in this e-book in detail for you how to start pre filming your messages and how to get going on YouTube. 00:04:50:10 - 00:05:08:10 Nick Clason So maybe you've been watching this playlist, but if you download this e-book it will be kind of your step by step guide to starting to create content on YouTube. Once you get past your titling, there's another really important part. And it's all the way down here at the bottom. it's passed you a little description box. It's pass it thumbnail thing. 00:05:08:12 - 00:05:28:26 Nick Clason It's pass your playlist selector and it's in this area here called tags. Okay. Now you'll see right here on mine I have these little like, ranking things and that's from a service called vid IQ which link down below is a vid IQ link if you're interested in grabbing that for a free trial or for a period of time. 00:05:28:28 - 00:05:48:25 Nick Clason But this will help rank what some of your tags are. So if you are talking about David and Bathsheba, you might write in David and you might write in Overcoming Sin, and you might write in God's restorative grace. And just these tags, these are ways in which people, that search for things on YouTube. Because, remember, YouTube is owned by Google. 00:05:48:25 - 00:06:12:24 Nick Clason And so people are going to YouTube and they are searching things like they went on Google, for example, how do I come back from a massive mistake that I've made and maybe your video on David will actually help communicate that. Or maybe someone's looking for some research on David and they're saying, hey, I want to know, like, when were David and Bathsheba like, you know, what year did David and Bathsheba take place or something like that? 00:06:12:24 - 00:06:32:05 Nick Clason I don't know, but just begin to think like the people that are searching on YouTube. And so you may answer certain things like, you know, how to overcome sin, but you may also answer David and Bathsheba, you know, whatever year it was or something like that. And so you can put some of those things in. And this little plug in here is from vid IQ. 00:06:32:05 - 00:06:54:24 Nick Clason And so I have that plugged in right here at the top, watch some of my stats and gives me kind of some, some analytic type stuff. And so it also can give me you know, some, some suggestions for tags and stuff like that. And so if you are interested in that, something like that, you can get that for a pretty nominal, pretty minimal fee and also a trial to go ahead and get the ball rolling on that. 00:06:54:24 - 00:07:14:24 Nick Clason You should definitely check that out. But tags are pretty important. And you'll see that it has, 500 potential characters. So whatever you do, try your hardest to, get your tags filled all the way out to as close to 500 tags as possible. after that, I want to talk here for just a minute about the, description section. 00:07:14:24 - 00:07:33:13 Nick Clason So the description section, this is where I include a lot of, like, relevant links. And so if you're watching on YouTube and you're watching my video right here, this is my, you know, hey, I'm offering free editing right now, so click that link. And since that's one of my main kind of call to actions out of this message, out of this video, like, I want you to click that. 00:07:33:13 - 00:07:50:29 Nick Clason I'm putting it right up at the top. I also have my strategy guide right here. and you can also grab that as well. then right here, this is like just a description. So just think like think like a little mini, you know, paragraph two paragraphs, three paragraphs, kind of blog post. So same kind of idea as the tags. 00:07:50:29 - 00:08:19:13 Nick Clason But this one is you're typing it out. You're typing it out, for the audience that may find it because YouTube and the algorithm, they're always crawling every single piece of text and every single piece of content from the video. So all the captions that you have, all the words that you say, all the things you write, all the tags you have, all the title that you have, all those things go into account as people are searching and looking for different videos on YouTube. 00:08:19:13 - 00:08:37:26 Nick Clason And so, just fill this thing out and I'll show you an example. if you are watching on YouTube, you can see me navigating over to it live time right now. But our student ministry YouTube account, and you'll see that we have every single one. We have, a next step. So this just takes us to we use, Church Community builder. 00:08:37:26 - 00:08:58:27 Nick Clason So this is our digital Next step card that's included in every single description. And we have a thing called digital notes, which students can use to follow along, both live in the room and also here on YouTube. And so, this is free a free service from the YouVersion Bible app. It's just a way to continually make things more hybrid in your space. 00:08:58:29 - 00:09:18:28 Nick Clason and so look, you look we're talking about David this week as well on this episode. and so this is just an example of a couple of links that you can include. And I like to try to include every single, next step, every single link into here, into the digital notes. And so, you know, right here it says Ready to surrender Control. 00:09:18:28 - 00:09:40:27 Nick Clason Let us know by taking a next step. This is the exact same link as the one I just showed you, right. It takes it out to that next steps form as well. And so we're all this is like our final last step. And so in my sort of like ultimate strategy guide I'm posting fun shorts that people will find as I'm posting spiritual shorts so that people will be inspired, that then push to our long form content. 00:09:40:29 - 00:09:55:26 Nick Clason So then they go watch a long form version of our video, and then that drives them to a next step, and then they take the next step here. And that's how we capture and gather their information. That's how it is in a pie in the sky type of world. It doesn't always work that way. You know that as a youth pastor as well. 00:09:55:28 - 00:10:14:06 Nick Clason But this is how I can reconcile and say like, this is why we post fun content. This is why we post short inspirational shorts, because we're driving to this long form version of our video, which is then driving toward a next step which allows us to capture information from students, gather their their info and follow up with them, and ultimately disciple them. 00:10:14:06 - 00:10:36:04 Nick Clason Right. And so that's that description. Place is also where you can include, the links like, you know, digital notes. If you want to do that, feel free to borrow that, steal that. You use that in your own space, or in next steps form or whatever the case may be, if you are not, you know, like if you're, not a youth pastor and you're also just looking to post videos on YouTube, that would be where you might post things like affiliate links and whatever. 00:10:36:04 - 00:10:55:02 Nick Clason And so you'll see that for me as well. Like right here, these are my show notes. And so these are different things like you know this it takes you to the show notes on my podcast page. This is you know we talked about Cap Cut, DaVinci resolve, Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, some other links about growing as an editor, tutorials, limited time offer. 00:10:55:04 - 00:11:17:11 Nick Clason Here's all my socials. Here's some other freebies. Here's some affiliate links, like so. All that stuff is kind of chock full in there. But then this is another really important thing. This is really, key thing to do. I think when you're posting videos to YouTube is create chapter and time codes, and all you got to do is just add them right here in the description. 00:11:17:11 - 00:11:39:21 Nick Clason If you're watching live on YouTube, you can see that. And I just go back through the video and I watch it manually, and I type out when I started talking about each of these things. And if you are watching on YouTube, you'll see down below. I'm also now starting to highlight that on screen with some text right? So that whenever anyone's watching, they can scrub ahead and see what I'm actually talking about in each section of the video. 00:11:39:21 - 00:12:00:15 Nick Clason Because I don't know about you, but there are some times where I don't want all the fluff at the beginning, I just want the direct answer. So YouTube helps index better when you include chapters, and just by putting them in there, YouTube will auto break that up and it will, create chapters and create divisions within your video for the people in your in your space that are watching it. 00:12:00:17 - 00:12:27:20 Nick Clason beyond chapters. the other thing that is really important, probably just as important I would say, is the title is your thumbnail. And so your thumbnail is very simply your, your, your like first impression, right, of what's going on. And so, a lot of experts say you want anywhere from, 2 to 6 words on the thumbnail, as little as possible. 00:12:27:21 - 00:12:51:07 Nick Clason Because think about if someone's scrolling through on their phone. They're just getting a small image of it. So you want it to be enough to incite curiosity that will cause someone to click on it and then get started on your video. And so rather than David, invest Sheba week three of the David series, your church name in your, you know, date that you preach it or whatever. 00:12:51:10 - 00:13:14:20 Nick Clason Like just simply post like, you know, returning to God. Something like that. Right. And you can put, like a screenshot of yourself or a screenshot of whoever's speaking and do some graphic editing. With that, you can use things like Adobe Photoshop. You can use things like Canva, links to those all down in the description of this podcast episode. 00:13:14:22 - 00:13:20:01 Nick Clason but you can use some of those things so that you can create a good first impression. 00:13:20:01 - 00:13:35:08 Nick Clason One other, couple other kind of like next level sections. And you'll see here, here's my vidiq optimize score. there are a couple of things here that I have not, you know, like, they don't they don't think my titles very easy to understand. 00:13:35:10 - 00:13:53:06 Nick Clason but one of the things that can help increase your score is adding things like cards. And so you get one card per playlist. And if you're watching this video, I did it right, the very top. Right. So we're in a playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. In this video I did it as well. I did it at 45 seconds. 00:13:53:13 - 00:14:09:28 Nick Clason And so I'm just highlighting like, hey, you're in the middle of a playlist. If you want to go back to the beginning, catch up, or you may reference another video from another time. Maybe somebody, doesn't want this video that you're talking about, but you can help point them out to another type of thing that they may be interested in. 00:14:10:01 - 00:14:33:04 Nick Clason It'll show up on screen, similar to something like this. Someone can click on it while they're on YouTube and take them to another video on YouTube. Sean Cannell has, a Ten Commandments for YouTube. And one of the things is keep people on YouTube's platform as long as possible. At least that's YouTube's cool, right? And so, all these things help help you rank better. 00:14:33:04 - 00:14:54:19 Nick Clason So that's an example of a card. You get one of those per video. And when you're pre filming you can write that in. And if you're using a teleprompter like we had talked about in a previous episode, linked to a teleprompter down below in the show notes. Grab that. But you can write that in so that you make sure that you include the card in your video, but you can, you know, kind of point to it. 00:14:54:21 - 00:15:12:28 Nick Clason and here's like a little hack, like if you are filming direct camera, if you point with your left finger, it'll pop up right here on top of your screen. A lot of times I'll add a sound effect and maybe like the thumbnail of the playlist or the video I'm talking about, and pop it right in right where my finger comes in, and also have it come across right above it as well. 00:15:13:00 - 00:15:33:11 Nick Clason That's just a little editing thing. And again, if you're interested in editing, reach out to me down below in the show notes. but finally the last piece. And, you know, also, by the way, hey, listen, here's the thing. Maybe you don't have a budget for editing and you're like, I want to do this. and I'm going to learn editing, but, like, I just I need someone to help me walk through this. 00:15:33:11 - 00:15:53:19 Nick Clason Like, I'm also offering some coaching right now at a smaller rate. for sessions of coaching, just a few. Just a few bucks. If that's something that you're interested in, I can help you go from wherever you are and start making progress on your hybrid strategy today. And then the final piece that you want to include is your end screens. 00:15:53:19 - 00:16:17:29 Nick Clason And it's the same concept as the card where you want to keep people on the YouTube platform. As long as possible. You'll notice on, this video here, I included, four different end screens. I have, and this is, this is a little hack. I often, dovetail onto the next video on my on my playlist, but this is the most recent video I've uploaded. 00:16:18:03 - 00:16:36:27 Nick Clason And so right now I don't actually have the next video on my playlist. all the way edited and all the way uploaded to YouTube. And so right here, this is just a placeholder once I upload, video 94, this is video 93. Once I upload video 94, I'll go back into here and I'll replace this video right here, which is called video, which is best for viewer. 00:16:36:27 - 00:17:03:04 Nick Clason That's YouTube's algorithm doing its thing. And I'll add video 94. Now you might be thinking, Nick, aren't if I post it and I say next videos on screen and it's not uploaded yet, won't that be a problem? And yes, for that like one week or so it won't be there. Okay. But from that moment on, once you upload or the the second video on the playlist goes live, it will live there on for the rest of eternity and time. 00:17:03:04 - 00:17:29:12 Nick Clason And so one of the things we got to start getting, getting used to as youth pastors and people using the internet is that YouTube will live on in perpetuity forever, as long as you keep it up there and so. Well, the people that watch your video now, for your church, maybe in the series with David and Bathsheba, when you move on to the next section of the The Playlist and you're talking about David at the end of his life, and that's video number four. 00:17:29:15 - 00:17:51:09 Nick Clason If people discover this a year down the road, two years down the road, ten years down the road, they will have access to that next video. And you can serve the people on YouTube forever. And that's one of the beautiful things about you and I as youth pastors, becoming content creators is that we can, effectively reach more people than just the people in our direct physical care. 00:17:51:09 - 00:18:10:14 Nick Clason And that's one of the reasons I think going hybrid as at least one of the other benefits and I don't even think it should be the main or primary benefit of what we're doing, but it is at least something that we can use and utilize to our advantage. I also oftentimes include the playlist on here and the subscribe thing as well. 00:18:10:14 - 00:18:26:14 Nick Clason And so you can add those to the end of your video as well. You can create a little Endor screen like I do, which has like little placeholders. And you just pop the video right in there. You can use something like a motion or a.com to find a thing like that. Speaking event screens. You will see right here on screen. 00:18:26:14 - 00:18:45:19 Nick Clason If you're watching on YouTube our next video, which is the importance of playlists and courses. And so we're going to talk in depth about those. How do you utilize them and the advantage that you and I as youth pastors have, and how playlists are the perfect solution for us in our churches, in our youth ministries. So go ahead and check that video out. 00:18:45:19 - 00:18:49:08 Nick Clason And don't forget, and as always, to stay hybrid. 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Whether you think it or not, if you're a youth pastor, you're in the content creation business!

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Youth Pastors are Content Creators
01:48 Creating Captivating Titles on YouTube
04:57 Adding Relevant Tags
07:07 Creating Descriptions that Matter
11:00 Create Chapter and Timecodes
11:55 Eye-Popping Thumbnails
13:14 What are YouTube Cards?
15:44 End Screens on YouTube

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:38:18
Nick Clason
Mr. Beast, Dave Ramsey, Sean Cannell and you? What do all four of these people have in common? Well, all four of them, including you, by the way, are a content creator. And if you're a youth pastor, you are in the content creation business and maybe not yet creating online content, but you have the skill set necessary because we right now are in a playlist linked right here at the top of the screen where we are talking about YouTube for youth ministry.

00:00:38:18 - 00:01:07:10
Nick Clason
And if you've done the things that we've talked about in this playlist so far, while you start pre-recording your messages and you start scoping them out ahead of time, and you start with the idea of posting them to YouTube, which, by the way, right now I'm offering a very limited time free editing offer. So if you pre film your messages and you want to send them to me, once you get to the whole kind of editing part, which tends to be what trips people up on YouTube, I would be happy to do that.

00:01:07:10 - 00:01:28:24
Nick Clason
Click the link down below in the show notes and reach out and let me know and inquire if those spaces are still available. But you know, content is one thing, right? Like creating the content, shooting the content, even posting the content, right? But when you post it, there are actually some pretty incredibly important things that you need to make sure that you are doing.

00:01:29:00 - 00:02:00:16
Nick Clason
And we are going to talk through all of those things today in this video where we are talking about your titling, your tags, your description, the links that you include in your description, how to make chapters, thumbnails, cards and end screens. I know it seems overwhelming, but let's hang out and let's dive into that today. So if you head on over to YouTube, once you've created an account and you click create and you click upload video, you will get a screen just like this and you will click select file.

00:02:00:16 - 00:02:20:11
Nick Clason
And then you will begin uploading it. And once it begins to upload on YouTube it will look like this. So this is from episode 93 on video editing. And so I've already input all the details. But if you are watching, on YouTube right now, you'll see this. If you're on a podcast catcher, head to the link in the show notes and scrub ahead to this section.

00:02:20:11 - 00:02:41:23
Nick Clason
But you will see right up here at the top your title. Now, this is what most people do in churches. This is certainly what we did in church, especially when we started in the middle of the pandemic. We had a show, it was called unscripted and we would, have them classify by seasons, which I thought was pretty cool and pretty innovative.

00:02:41:23 - 00:03:16:01
Nick Clason
So we would say like unscripted season two episode four, which was great for us as far as indexing and titling and categorizing. However, think about this. If we had a lesson on unscripted that week and unscripted was every single thing in the, show. So that included like the game and the worship and all the thing. But like, if we had a message on suffering, let's say, like it would just say season two, episode four, there was no titling there that, you know, indicated, what the actual topic was of the message.

00:03:16:01 - 00:03:38:00
Nick Clason
So your title, just like your thumbnail, both are really important as far as communicating to your audience what your video is going to be talking about. And so if you're in church, a lot of times we do this in churches where in the middle of like a series and we're like, David series, sermon three. Right. Which like, that's great.

00:03:38:00 - 00:04:00:27
Nick Clason
And you can actually on YouTube really easily include your series into a thing called a playlist. And so they can all be included. David, you know, can be included into a playlist, but talk about what you're talking about, you know. So if you're talking about David and Bathsheba, maybe your title is like coming back from Giant Mistakes or leaning in to God's grace.

00:04:00:27 - 00:04:25:14
Nick Clason
Right. And I'm going to talk to you in just a minute about ways that you can figure out the best words and the ways to title these things. But very simply, if you make this small shift from just creating it for your church people, where you're explaining, like David, you know, message three and instead shifting it to like what the actual topic is like, that is going to be one major and massive shift.

00:04:25:14 - 00:04:50:10
Nick Clason
And in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen with a little bit of a rebrand, new new title, we are now switching the name if you've already downloaded it. Still the same content. I just changed the title to The Complete Hybrid Strategy Guide. and we actually talked to you, in this e-book in detail for you how to start pre filming your messages and how to get going on YouTube.

00:04:50:10 - 00:05:08:10
Nick Clason
So maybe you've been watching this playlist, but if you download this e-book it will be kind of your step by step guide to starting to create content on YouTube. Once you get past your titling, there's another really important part. And it's all the way down here at the bottom. it's passed you a little description box. It's pass it thumbnail thing.

00:05:08:12 - 00:05:28:26
Nick Clason
It's pass your playlist selector and it's in this area here called tags. Okay. Now you'll see right here on mine I have these little like, ranking things and that's from a service called vid IQ which link down below is a vid IQ link if you're interested in grabbing that for a free trial or for a period of time.

00:05:28:28 - 00:05:48:25
Nick Clason
But this will help rank what some of your tags are. So if you are talking about David and Bathsheba, you might write in David and you might write in Overcoming Sin, and you might write in God's restorative grace. And just these tags, these are ways in which people, that search for things on YouTube. Because, remember, YouTube is owned by Google.

00:05:48:25 - 00:06:12:24
Nick Clason
And so people are going to YouTube and they are searching things like they went on Google, for example, how do I come back from a massive mistake that I've made and maybe your video on David will actually help communicate that. Or maybe someone's looking for some research on David and they're saying, hey, I want to know, like, when were David and Bathsheba like, you know, what year did David and Bathsheba take place or something like that?

00:06:12:24 - 00:06:32:05
Nick Clason
I don't know, but just begin to think like the people that are searching on YouTube. And so you may answer certain things like, you know, how to overcome sin, but you may also answer David and Bathsheba, you know, whatever year it was or something like that. And so you can put some of those things in. And this little plug in here is from vid IQ.

00:06:32:05 - 00:06:54:24
Nick Clason
And so I have that plugged in right here at the top, watch some of my stats and gives me kind of some, some analytic type stuff. And so it also can give me you know, some, some suggestions for tags and stuff like that. And so if you are interested in that, something like that, you can get that for a pretty nominal, pretty minimal fee and also a trial to go ahead and get the ball rolling on that.

00:06:54:24 - 00:07:14:24
Nick Clason
You should definitely check that out. But tags are pretty important. And you'll see that it has, 500 potential characters. So whatever you do, try your hardest to, get your tags filled all the way out to as close to 500 tags as possible. after that, I want to talk here for just a minute about the, description section.

00:07:14:24 - 00:07:33:13
Nick Clason
So the description section, this is where I include a lot of, like, relevant links. And so if you're watching on YouTube and you're watching my video right here, this is my, you know, hey, I'm offering free editing right now, so click that link. And since that's one of my main kind of call to actions out of this message, out of this video, like, I want you to click that.

00:07:33:13 - 00:07:50:29
Nick Clason
I'm putting it right up at the top. I also have my strategy guide right here. and you can also grab that as well. then right here, this is like just a description. So just think like think like a little mini, you know, paragraph two paragraphs, three paragraphs, kind of blog post. So same kind of idea as the tags.

00:07:50:29 - 00:08:19:13
Nick Clason
But this one is you're typing it out. You're typing it out, for the audience that may find it because YouTube and the algorithm, they're always crawling every single piece of text and every single piece of content from the video. So all the captions that you have, all the words that you say, all the things you write, all the tags you have, all the title that you have, all those things go into account as people are searching and looking for different videos on YouTube.

00:08:19:13 - 00:08:37:26
Nick Clason
And so, just fill this thing out and I'll show you an example. if you are watching on YouTube, you can see me navigating over to it live time right now. But our student ministry YouTube account, and you'll see that we have every single one. We have, a next step. So this just takes us to we use, Church Community builder.

00:08:37:26 - 00:08:58:27
Nick Clason
So this is our digital Next step card that's included in every single description. And we have a thing called digital notes, which students can use to follow along, both live in the room and also here on YouTube. And so, this is free a free service from the YouVersion Bible app. It's just a way to continually make things more hybrid in your space.

00:08:58:29 - 00:09:18:28
Nick Clason
and so look, you look we're talking about David this week as well on this episode. and so this is just an example of a couple of links that you can include. And I like to try to include every single, next step, every single link into here, into the digital notes. And so, you know, right here it says Ready to surrender Control.

00:09:18:28 - 00:09:40:27
Nick Clason
Let us know by taking a next step. This is the exact same link as the one I just showed you, right. It takes it out to that next steps form as well. And so we're all this is like our final last step. And so in my sort of like ultimate strategy guide I'm posting fun shorts that people will find as I'm posting spiritual shorts so that people will be inspired, that then push to our long form content.

00:09:40:29 - 00:09:55:26
Nick Clason
So then they go watch a long form version of our video, and then that drives them to a next step, and then they take the next step here. And that's how we capture and gather their information. That's how it is in a pie in the sky type of world. It doesn't always work that way. You know that as a youth pastor as well.

00:09:55:28 - 00:10:14:06
Nick Clason
But this is how I can reconcile and say like, this is why we post fun content. This is why we post short inspirational shorts, because we're driving to this long form version of our video, which is then driving toward a next step which allows us to capture information from students, gather their their info and follow up with them, and ultimately disciple them.

00:10:14:06 - 00:10:36:04
Nick Clason
Right. And so that's that description. Place is also where you can include, the links like, you know, digital notes. If you want to do that, feel free to borrow that, steal that. You use that in your own space, or in next steps form or whatever the case may be, if you are not, you know, like if you're, not a youth pastor and you're also just looking to post videos on YouTube, that would be where you might post things like affiliate links and whatever.

00:10:36:04 - 00:10:55:02
Nick Clason
And so you'll see that for me as well. Like right here, these are my show notes. And so these are different things like you know this it takes you to the show notes on my podcast page. This is you know we talked about Cap Cut, DaVinci resolve, Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, some other links about growing as an editor, tutorials, limited time offer.

00:10:55:04 - 00:11:17:11
Nick Clason
Here's all my socials. Here's some other freebies. Here's some affiliate links, like so. All that stuff is kind of chock full in there. But then this is another really important thing. This is really, key thing to do. I think when you're posting videos to YouTube is create chapter and time codes, and all you got to do is just add them right here in the description.

00:11:17:11 - 00:11:39:21
Nick Clason
If you're watching live on YouTube, you can see that. And I just go back through the video and I watch it manually, and I type out when I started talking about each of these things. And if you are watching on YouTube, you'll see down below. I'm also now starting to highlight that on screen with some text right? So that whenever anyone's watching, they can scrub ahead and see what I'm actually talking about in each section of the video.

00:11:39:21 - 00:12:00:15
Nick Clason
Because I don't know about you, but there are some times where I don't want all the fluff at the beginning, I just want the direct answer. So YouTube helps index better when you include chapters, and just by putting them in there, YouTube will auto break that up and it will, create chapters and create divisions within your video for the people in your in your space that are watching it.

00:12:00:17 - 00:12:27:20
Nick Clason
beyond chapters. the other thing that is really important, probably just as important I would say, is the title is your thumbnail. And so your thumbnail is very simply your, your, your like first impression, right, of what's going on. And so, a lot of experts say you want anywhere from, 2 to 6 words on the thumbnail, as little as possible.

00:12:27:21 - 00:12:51:07
Nick Clason
Because think about if someone's scrolling through on their phone. They're just getting a small image of it. So you want it to be enough to incite curiosity that will cause someone to click on it and then get started on your video. And so rather than David, invest Sheba week three of the David series, your church name in your, you know, date that you preach it or whatever.

00:12:51:10 - 00:13:14:20
Nick Clason
Like just simply post like, you know, returning to God. Something like that. Right. And you can put, like a screenshot of yourself or a screenshot of whoever's speaking and do some graphic editing. With that, you can use things like Adobe Photoshop. You can use things like Canva, links to those all down in the description of this podcast episode.

00:13:14:22 - 00:13:20:01
Nick Clason
but you can use some of those things so that you can create a good first impression.

00:13:20:01 - 00:13:35:08
Nick Clason
One other, couple other kind of like next level sections. And you'll see here, here's my vidiq optimize score. there are a couple of things here that I have not, you know, like, they don't they don't think my titles very easy to understand.

00:13:35:10 - 00:13:53:06
Nick Clason
but one of the things that can help increase your score is adding things like cards. And so you get one card per playlist. And if you're watching this video, I did it right, the very top. Right. So we're in a playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. In this video I did it as well. I did it at 45 seconds.

00:13:53:13 - 00:14:09:28
Nick Clason
And so I'm just highlighting like, hey, you're in the middle of a playlist. If you want to go back to the beginning, catch up, or you may reference another video from another time. Maybe somebody, doesn't want this video that you're talking about, but you can help point them out to another type of thing that they may be interested in.

00:14:10:01 - 00:14:33:04
Nick Clason
It'll show up on screen, similar to something like this. Someone can click on it while they're on YouTube and take them to another video on YouTube. Sean Cannell has, a Ten Commandments for YouTube. And one of the things is keep people on YouTube's platform as long as possible. At least that's YouTube's cool, right? And so, all these things help help you rank better.

00:14:33:04 - 00:14:54:19
Nick Clason
So that's an example of a card. You get one of those per video. And when you're pre filming you can write that in. And if you're using a teleprompter like we had talked about in a previous episode, linked to a teleprompter down below in the show notes. Grab that. But you can write that in so that you make sure that you include the card in your video, but you can, you know, kind of point to it.

00:14:54:21 - 00:15:12:28
Nick Clason
and here's like a little hack, like if you are filming direct camera, if you point with your left finger, it'll pop up right here on top of your screen. A lot of times I'll add a sound effect and maybe like the thumbnail of the playlist or the video I'm talking about, and pop it right in right where my finger comes in, and also have it come across right above it as well.

00:15:13:00 - 00:15:33:11
Nick Clason
That's just a little editing thing. And again, if you're interested in editing, reach out to me down below in the show notes. but finally the last piece. And, you know, also, by the way, hey, listen, here's the thing. Maybe you don't have a budget for editing and you're like, I want to do this. and I'm going to learn editing, but, like, I just I need someone to help me walk through this.

00:15:33:11 - 00:15:53:19
Nick Clason
Like, I'm also offering some coaching right now at a smaller rate. for sessions of coaching, just a few. Just a few bucks. If that's something that you're interested in, I can help you go from wherever you are and start making progress on your hybrid strategy today. And then the final piece that you want to include is your end screens.

00:15:53:19 - 00:16:17:29
Nick Clason
And it's the same concept as the card where you want to keep people on the YouTube platform. As long as possible. You'll notice on, this video here, I included, four different end screens. I have, and this is, this is a little hack. I often, dovetail onto the next video on my on my playlist, but this is the most recent video I've uploaded.

00:16:18:03 - 00:16:36:27
Nick Clason
And so right now I don't actually have the next video on my playlist. all the way edited and all the way uploaded to YouTube. And so right here, this is just a placeholder once I upload, video 94, this is video 93. Once I upload video 94, I'll go back into here and I'll replace this video right here, which is called video, which is best for viewer.

00:16:36:27 - 00:17:03:04
Nick Clason
That's YouTube's algorithm doing its thing. And I'll add video 94. Now you might be thinking, Nick, aren't if I post it and I say next videos on screen and it's not uploaded yet, won't that be a problem? And yes, for that like one week or so it won't be there. Okay. But from that moment on, once you upload or the the second video on the playlist goes live, it will live there on for the rest of eternity and time.

00:17:03:04 - 00:17:29:12
Nick Clason
And so one of the things we got to start getting, getting used to as youth pastors and people using the internet is that YouTube will live on in perpetuity forever, as long as you keep it up there and so. Well, the people that watch your video now, for your church, maybe in the series with David and Bathsheba, when you move on to the next section of the The Playlist and you're talking about David at the end of his life, and that's video number four.

00:17:29:15 - 00:17:51:09
Nick Clason
If people discover this a year down the road, two years down the road, ten years down the road, they will have access to that next video. And you can serve the people on YouTube forever. And that's one of the beautiful things about you and I as youth pastors, becoming content creators is that we can, effectively reach more people than just the people in our direct physical care.

00:17:51:09 - 00:18:10:14
Nick Clason
And that's one of the reasons I think going hybrid as at least one of the other benefits and I don't even think it should be the main or primary benefit of what we're doing, but it is at least something that we can use and utilize to our advantage. I also oftentimes include the playlist on here and the subscribe thing as well.

00:18:10:14 - 00:18:26:14
Nick Clason
And so you can add those to the end of your video as well. You can create a little Endor screen like I do, which has like little placeholders. And you just pop the video right in there. You can use something like a motion or a.com to find a thing like that. Speaking event screens. You will see right here on screen.

00:18:26:14 - 00:18:45:19
Nick Clason
If you're watching on YouTube our next video, which is the importance of playlists and courses. And so we're going to talk in depth about those. How do you utilize them and the advantage that you and I as youth pastors have, and how playlists are the perfect solution for us in our churches, in our youth ministries. So go ahead and check that video out.

00:18:45:19 - 00:18:49:08
Nick Clason
And don't forget, and as always, to stay hybrid.

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00:00 Youth Pastors are Content Creators
01:48 Creating Captivating Titles on YouTube
04:57 Adding Relevant Tags
07:07 Creating Descriptions that Matter
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11:55 Eye-Popping Thumbnails
13:14 What are YouTube Cards?
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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:38:18
Nick Clason
Mr. Beast, Dave Ramsey, Sean Cannell and you? What do all four of these people have in common? Well, all four of them, including you, by the way, are a content creator. And if you're a youth pastor, you are in the content creation business and maybe not yet creating online content, but you have the skill set necessary because we right now are in a playlist linked right here at the top of the screen where we are talking about YouTube for youth ministry.

00:00:38:18 - 00:01:07:10
Nick Clason
And if you've done the things that we've talked about in this playlist so far, while you start pre-recording your messages and you start scoping them out ahead of time, and you start with the idea of posting them to YouTube, which, by the way, right now I'm offering a very limited time free editing offer. So if you pre film your messages and you want to send them to me, once you get to the whole kind of editing part, which tends to be what trips people up on YouTube, I would be happy to do that.

00:01:07:10 - 00:01:28:24
Nick Clason
Click the link down below in the show notes and reach out and let me know and inquire if those spaces are still available. But you know, content is one thing, right? Like creating the content, shooting the content, even posting the content, right? But when you post it, there are actually some pretty incredibly important things that you need to make sure that you are doing.

00:01:29:00 - 00:02:00:16
Nick Clason
And we are going to talk through all of those things today in this video where we are talking about your titling, your tags, your description, the links that you include in your description, how to make chapters, thumbnails, cards and end screens. I know it seems overwhelming, but let's hang out and let's dive into that today. So if you head on over to YouTube, once you've created an account and you click create and you click upload video, you will get a screen just like this and you will click select file.

00:02:00:16 - 00:02:20:11
Nick Clason
And then you will begin uploading it. And once it begins to upload on YouTube it will look like this. So this is from episode 93 on video editing. And so I've already input all the details. But if you are watching, on YouTube right now, you'll see this. If you're on a podcast catcher, head to the link in the show notes and scrub ahead to this section.

00:02:20:11 - 00:02:41:23
Nick Clason
But you will see right up here at the top your title. Now, this is what most people do in churches. This is certainly what we did in church, especially when we started in the middle of the pandemic. We had a show, it was called unscripted and we would, have them classify by seasons, which I thought was pretty cool and pretty innovative.

00:02:41:23 - 00:03:16:01
Nick Clason
So we would say like unscripted season two episode four, which was great for us as far as indexing and titling and categorizing. However, think about this. If we had a lesson on unscripted that week and unscripted was every single thing in the, show. So that included like the game and the worship and all the thing. But like, if we had a message on suffering, let's say, like it would just say season two, episode four, there was no titling there that, you know, indicated, what the actual topic was of the message.

00:03:16:01 - 00:03:38:00
Nick Clason
So your title, just like your thumbnail, both are really important as far as communicating to your audience what your video is going to be talking about. And so if you're in church, a lot of times we do this in churches where in the middle of like a series and we're like, David series, sermon three. Right. Which like, that's great.

00:03:38:00 - 00:04:00:27
Nick Clason
And you can actually on YouTube really easily include your series into a thing called a playlist. And so they can all be included. David, you know, can be included into a playlist, but talk about what you're talking about, you know. So if you're talking about David and Bathsheba, maybe your title is like coming back from Giant Mistakes or leaning in to God's grace.

00:04:00:27 - 00:04:25:14
Nick Clason
Right. And I'm going to talk to you in just a minute about ways that you can figure out the best words and the ways to title these things. But very simply, if you make this small shift from just creating it for your church people, where you're explaining, like David, you know, message three and instead shifting it to like what the actual topic is like, that is going to be one major and massive shift.

00:04:25:14 - 00:04:50:10
Nick Clason
And in my completely free e-book, which is linked right here on screen with a little bit of a rebrand, new new title, we are now switching the name if you've already downloaded it. Still the same content. I just changed the title to The Complete Hybrid Strategy Guide. and we actually talked to you, in this e-book in detail for you how to start pre filming your messages and how to get going on YouTube.

00:04:50:10 - 00:05:08:10
Nick Clason
So maybe you've been watching this playlist, but if you download this e-book it will be kind of your step by step guide to starting to create content on YouTube. Once you get past your titling, there's another really important part. And it's all the way down here at the bottom. it's passed you a little description box. It's pass it thumbnail thing.

00:05:08:12 - 00:05:28:26
Nick Clason
It's pass your playlist selector and it's in this area here called tags. Okay. Now you'll see right here on mine I have these little like, ranking things and that's from a service called vid IQ which link down below is a vid IQ link if you're interested in grabbing that for a free trial or for a period of time.

00:05:28:28 - 00:05:48:25
Nick Clason
But this will help rank what some of your tags are. So if you are talking about David and Bathsheba, you might write in David and you might write in Overcoming Sin, and you might write in God's restorative grace. And just these tags, these are ways in which people, that search for things on YouTube. Because, remember, YouTube is owned by Google.

00:05:48:25 - 00:06:12:24
Nick Clason
And so people are going to YouTube and they are searching things like they went on Google, for example, how do I come back from a massive mistake that I've made and maybe your video on David will actually help communicate that. Or maybe someone's looking for some research on David and they're saying, hey, I want to know, like, when were David and Bathsheba like, you know, what year did David and Bathsheba take place or something like that?

00:06:12:24 - 00:06:32:05
Nick Clason
I don't know, but just begin to think like the people that are searching on YouTube. And so you may answer certain things like, you know, how to overcome sin, but you may also answer David and Bathsheba, you know, whatever year it was or something like that. And so you can put some of those things in. And this little plug in here is from vid IQ.

00:06:32:05 - 00:06:54:24
Nick Clason
And so I have that plugged in right here at the top, watch some of my stats and gives me kind of some, some analytic type stuff. And so it also can give me you know, some, some suggestions for tags and stuff like that. And so if you are interested in that, something like that, you can get that for a pretty nominal, pretty minimal fee and also a trial to go ahead and get the ball rolling on that.

00:06:54:24 - 00:07:14:24
Nick Clason
You should definitely check that out. But tags are pretty important. And you'll see that it has, 500 potential characters. So whatever you do, try your hardest to, get your tags filled all the way out to as close to 500 tags as possible. after that, I want to talk here for just a minute about the, description section.

00:07:14:24 - 00:07:33:13
Nick Clason
So the description section, this is where I include a lot of, like, relevant links. And so if you're watching on YouTube and you're watching my video right here, this is my, you know, hey, I'm offering free editing right now, so click that link. And since that's one of my main kind of call to actions out of this message, out of this video, like, I want you to click that.

00:07:33:13 - 00:07:50:29
Nick Clason
I'm putting it right up at the top. I also have my strategy guide right here. and you can also grab that as well. then right here, this is like just a description. So just think like think like a little mini, you know, paragraph two paragraphs, three paragraphs, kind of blog post. So same kind of idea as the tags.

00:07:50:29 - 00:08:19:13
Nick Clason
But this one is you're typing it out. You're typing it out, for the audience that may find it because YouTube and the algorithm, they're always crawling every single piece of text and every single piece of content from the video. So all the captions that you have, all the words that you say, all the things you write, all the tags you have, all the title that you have, all those things go into account as people are searching and looking for different videos on YouTube.

00:08:19:13 - 00:08:37:26
Nick Clason
And so, just fill this thing out and I'll show you an example. if you are watching on YouTube, you can see me navigating over to it live time right now. But our student ministry YouTube account, and you'll see that we have every single one. We have, a next step. So this just takes us to we use, Church Community builder.

00:08:37:26 - 00:08:58:27
Nick Clason
So this is our digital Next step card that's included in every single description. And we have a thing called digital notes, which students can use to follow along, both live in the room and also here on YouTube. And so, this is free a free service from the YouVersion Bible app. It's just a way to continually make things more hybrid in your space.

00:08:58:29 - 00:09:18:28
Nick Clason
and so look, you look we're talking about David this week as well on this episode. and so this is just an example of a couple of links that you can include. And I like to try to include every single, next step, every single link into here, into the digital notes. And so, you know, right here it says Ready to surrender Control.

00:09:18:28 - 00:09:40:27
Nick Clason
Let us know by taking a next step. This is the exact same link as the one I just showed you, right. It takes it out to that next steps form as well. And so we're all this is like our final last step. And so in my sort of like ultimate strategy guide I'm posting fun shorts that people will find as I'm posting spiritual shorts so that people will be inspired, that then push to our long form content.

00:09:40:29 - 00:09:55:26
Nick Clason
So then they go watch a long form version of our video, and then that drives them to a next step, and then they take the next step here. And that's how we capture and gather their information. That's how it is in a pie in the sky type of world. It doesn't always work that way. You know that as a youth pastor as well.

00:09:55:28 - 00:10:14:06
Nick Clason
But this is how I can reconcile and say like, this is why we post fun content. This is why we post short inspirational shorts, because we're driving to this long form version of our video, which is then driving toward a next step which allows us to capture information from students, gather their their info and follow up with them, and ultimately disciple them.

00:10:14:06 - 00:10:36:04
Nick Clason
Right. And so that's that description. Place is also where you can include, the links like, you know, digital notes. If you want to do that, feel free to borrow that, steal that. You use that in your own space, or in next steps form or whatever the case may be, if you are not, you know, like if you're, not a youth pastor and you're also just looking to post videos on YouTube, that would be where you might post things like affiliate links and whatever.

00:10:36:04 - 00:10:55:02
Nick Clason
And so you'll see that for me as well. Like right here, these are my show notes. And so these are different things like you know this it takes you to the show notes on my podcast page. This is you know we talked about Cap Cut, DaVinci resolve, Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, some other links about growing as an editor, tutorials, limited time offer.

00:10:55:04 - 00:11:17:11
Nick Clason
Here's all my socials. Here's some other freebies. Here's some affiliate links, like so. All that stuff is kind of chock full in there. But then this is another really important thing. This is really, key thing to do. I think when you're posting videos to YouTube is create chapter and time codes, and all you got to do is just add them right here in the description.

00:11:17:11 - 00:11:39:21
Nick Clason
If you're watching live on YouTube, you can see that. And I just go back through the video and I watch it manually, and I type out when I started talking about each of these things. And if you are watching on YouTube, you'll see down below. I'm also now starting to highlight that on screen with some text right? So that whenever anyone's watching, they can scrub ahead and see what I'm actually talking about in each section of the video.

00:11:39:21 - 00:12:00:15
Nick Clason
Because I don't know about you, but there are some times where I don't want all the fluff at the beginning, I just want the direct answer. So YouTube helps index better when you include chapters, and just by putting them in there, YouTube will auto break that up and it will, create chapters and create divisions within your video for the people in your in your space that are watching it.

00:12:00:17 - 00:12:27:20
Nick Clason
beyond chapters. the other thing that is really important, probably just as important I would say, is the title is your thumbnail. And so your thumbnail is very simply your, your, your like first impression, right, of what's going on. And so, a lot of experts say you want anywhere from, 2 to 6 words on the thumbnail, as little as possible.

00:12:27:21 - 00:12:51:07
Nick Clason
Because think about if someone's scrolling through on their phone. They're just getting a small image of it. So you want it to be enough to incite curiosity that will cause someone to click on it and then get started on your video. And so rather than David, invest Sheba week three of the David series, your church name in your, you know, date that you preach it or whatever.

00:12:51:10 - 00:13:14:20
Nick Clason
Like just simply post like, you know, returning to God. Something like that. Right. And you can put, like a screenshot of yourself or a screenshot of whoever's speaking and do some graphic editing. With that, you can use things like Adobe Photoshop. You can use things like Canva, links to those all down in the description of this podcast episode.

00:13:14:22 - 00:13:20:01
Nick Clason
but you can use some of those things so that you can create a good first impression.

00:13:20:01 - 00:13:35:08
Nick Clason
One other, couple other kind of like next level sections. And you'll see here, here's my vidiq optimize score. there are a couple of things here that I have not, you know, like, they don't they don't think my titles very easy to understand.

00:13:35:10 - 00:13:53:06
Nick Clason
but one of the things that can help increase your score is adding things like cards. And so you get one card per playlist. And if you're watching this video, I did it right, the very top. Right. So we're in a playlist called YouTube for Youth Ministry. In this video I did it as well. I did it at 45 seconds.

00:13:53:13 - 00:14:09:28
Nick Clason
And so I'm just highlighting like, hey, you're in the middle of a playlist. If you want to go back to the beginning, catch up, or you may reference another video from another time. Maybe somebody, doesn't want this video that you're talking about, but you can help point them out to another type of thing that they may be interested in.

00:14:10:01 - 00:14:33:04
Nick Clason
It'll show up on screen, similar to something like this. Someone can click on it while they're on YouTube and take them to another video on YouTube. Sean Cannell has, a Ten Commandments for YouTube. And one of the things is keep people on YouTube's platform as long as possible. At least that's YouTube's cool, right? And so, all these things help help you rank better.

00:14:33:04 - 00:14:54:19
Nick Clason
So that's an example of a card. You get one of those per video. And when you're pre filming you can write that in. And if you're using a teleprompter like we had talked about in a previous episode, linked to a teleprompter down below in the show notes. Grab that. But you can write that in so that you make sure that you include the card in your video, but you can, you know, kind of point to it.

00:14:54:21 - 00:15:12:28
Nick Clason
and here's like a little hack, like if you are filming direct camera, if you point with your left finger, it'll pop up right here on top of your screen. A lot of times I'll add a sound effect and maybe like the thumbnail of the playlist or the video I'm talking about, and pop it right in right where my finger comes in, and also have it come across right above it as well.

00:15:13:00 - 00:15:33:11
Nick Clason
That's just a little editing thing. And again, if you're interested in editing, reach out to me down below in the show notes. but finally the last piece. And, you know, also, by the way, hey, listen, here's the thing. Maybe you don't have a budget for editing and you're like, I want to do this. and I'm going to learn editing, but, like, I just I need someone to help me walk through this.

00:15:33:11 - 00:15:53:19
Nick Clason
Like, I'm also offering some coaching right now at a smaller rate. for sessions of coaching, just a few. Just a few bucks. If that's something that you're interested in, I can help you go from wherever you are and start making progress on your hybrid strategy today. And then the final piece that you want to include is your end screens.

00:15:53:19 - 00:16:17:29
Nick Clason
And it's the same concept as the card where you want to keep people on the YouTube platform. As long as possible. You'll notice on, this video here, I included, four different end screens. I have, and this is, this is a little hack. I often, dovetail onto the next video on my on my playlist, but this is the most recent video I've uploaded.

00:16:18:03 - 00:16:36:27
Nick Clason
And so right now I don't actually have the next video on my playlist. all the way edited and all the way uploaded to YouTube. And so right here, this is just a placeholder once I upload, video 94, this is video 93. Once I upload video 94, I'll go back into here and I'll replace this video right here, which is called video, which is best for viewer.

00:16:36:27 - 00:17:03:04
Nick Clason
That's YouTube's algorithm doing its thing. And I'll add video 94. Now you might be thinking, Nick, aren't if I post it and I say next videos on screen and it's not uploaded yet, won't that be a problem? And yes, for that like one week or so it won't be there. Okay. But from that moment on, once you upload or the the second video on the playlist goes live, it will live there on for the rest of eternity and time.

00:17:03:04 - 00:17:29:12
Nick Clason
And so one of the things we got to start getting, getting used to as youth pastors and people using the internet is that YouTube will live on in perpetuity forever, as long as you keep it up there and so. Well, the people that watch your video now, for your church, maybe in the series with David and Bathsheba, when you move on to the next section of the The Playlist and you're talking about David at the end of his life, and that's video number four.

00:17:29:15 - 00:17:51:09
Nick Clason
If people discover this a year down the road, two years down the road, ten years down the road, they will have access to that next video. And you can serve the people on YouTube forever. And that's one of the beautiful things about you and I as youth pastors, becoming content creators is that we can, effectively reach more people than just the people in our direct physical care.

00:17:51:09 - 00:18:10:14
Nick Clason
And that's one of the reasons I think going hybrid as at least one of the other benefits and I don't even think it should be the main or primary benefit of what we're doing, but it is at least something that we can use and utilize to our advantage. I also oftentimes include the playlist on here and the subscribe thing as well.

00:18:10:14 - 00:18:26:14
Nick Clason
And so you can add those to the end of your video as well. You can create a little Endor screen like I do, which has like little placeholders. And you just pop the video right in there. You can use something like a motion or a.com to find a thing like that. Speaking event screens. You will see right here on screen.

00:18:26:14 - 00:18:45:19
Nick Clason
If you're watching on YouTube our next video, which is the importance of playlists and courses. And so we're going to talk in depth about those. How do you utilize them and the advantage that you and I as youth pastors have, and how playlists are the perfect solution for us in our churches, in our youth ministries. So go ahead and check that video out.

00:18:45:19 - 00:18:49:08
Nick Clason
And don't forget, and as always, to stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 093: ๐Ÿ“น LiveStream vs. Pre-Filming: Editing for Youth Ministries https://www.hybridministry.xyz/093 d84d031c-2950-4dc6-968f-ab10532247b0 Thu, 18 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 093 ๐Ÿ“น LiveStream vs. Pre-Filming: Editing for Youth Ministries full Nick Clason Should Churches Quit Live-Streaming their videos to YouTube? If YouTube is as relevant and powerful of a platform, it seems as though we should be making it a top priority How can youth pastors grow as video editors and make the maximum impact on their students and teenagers? Follow along as we unpack how to grow on YouTube for Youth Ministries 13:42 no ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Video Editing for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/editing ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ====================================== DESCRIPTION Should Churches Quit Live-Streaming their videos to YouTube? 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What if I told you that you could show up in a place where 95% of them have been will go or plan to go? You would probably do whatever it took to find your way there and help point those kids 00:00:30:04 - 00:00:55:19 Nick Clason to Jesus, what if I also told you that that place was YouTube? Well, it's true. According to Pew Research, 95% of teens are on or have been on YouTube. Here's the good news. We are currently in the middle of a playlist linked right here at the top of the video about YouTube for Youth Ministries, Everything you need to know from the philosophy to the tactile, getting it done and getting it posted. 00:00:55:19 - 00:01:26:04 Nick Clason And today we're talking about the dreaded editing, editing of videos like Subscribe and Turn On the Bell, because I want to help you show up where 95% of your teenagers are. And I'm doing it on YouTube 100% completely for free in this video. I want to explore the debate of livestream versus pre shooting and pre filming. Your messages how you as a youth pastor can grow as a video editor and designer. 00:01:26:06 - 00:01:53:15 Nick Clason We're also going to talk about how you can get professional YouTube videos edited for completely free by somebody else. Sound too good to be true? Stick around to find out. So should we livestream our services and post them online or should we pre film our messages? Well, for me, as a youth pastor, that was a debate that I had when I started at the church that I'm working at right now. 00:01:53:17 - 00:02:16:22 Nick Clason Started here in September of 2022. And I wanted because we were a in-person church, I wanted to livestream our messages. I wanted to livestream our messages mostly so that I could take the livestream long form video, clip it up into shorts and post it on social media throughout the week. I didn't want to do double work, and pre filming feels a little bit like double work. 00:02:16:22 - 00:02:46:20 Nick Clason And so eventually I landed on pre filming our messages. Not from a strategy standpoint, but honestly from a needs standpoint. We weren't going to retrofit or make the the room have the accommodations to livestream. We weren't going to put the budget resources behind livestreaming our services. And frankly, I didn't even want to livestream as much as I just wanted to live capture the message via video more than just a cell phone on a tripod in the back of the room, on the sound booth. 00:02:46:21 - 00:03:09:20 Nick Clason And so we started pre filming our messages out of necessity. But one of the things that I noticed and have discovered and come to now, so that was out of necessity, but now out of preference, I would say I will probably forever and always pre film my messages because think about it when you're on YouTube, this is often what us as churches are going up against this on screen. 00:03:09:20 - 00:03:47:29 Nick Clason If you're not watching, if you're just listening, you can head to the link in the show notes, watch the YouTube video. Mr. Beast and his thumbnail and his 15 minute YouTube video is a type of content that most people are going on to YouTube to watch in an entertaining sort of manner, entertaining sort of fashion. Meanwhile, churches are an hour and 37 minute service with all of the pre-roll announcements and all of their worship services and songs and pastor and announcement and everything is dropped on YouTube without any sort of custom work on a thumbnail or titling or description. 00:03:48:00 - 00:04:20:08 Nick Clason So all the the, the livestream with the way that we're approaching livestream on the back end, setting it up uploading, and we're going to get into all of that in this playlist as well. So make sure that you are subscribed, but all of that type of stuff matters as well, because as I mentioned in our most recent video, when a student is hurting, you want to be able for them to you want to be able to send them content and videos and resources and things that can help them make sense of the pain that they're experiencing. 00:04:20:11 - 00:04:39:09 Nick Clason But you also want people to find it. So maybe a student you don't know or student doesn't feel comfortable, whatever the case might be coming to you and asking you that they need help, but you want them to stumble on your YouTube channel and you want them to be able to make sense of the pain and the suffering that they're that they're facing. 00:04:39:09 - 00:05:05:16 Nick Clason And they're not going to be able to find that. If you have, like your youth group. March 13th, 2024 service. Like they don't know that the topic was on, you know, the problem of evil and how to attach yourself to Jesus when you're going through hard times. So actually, let me do this. This is if you're watching and you're going to probably want to watch this part or at least go back and check it out. 00:05:05:19 - 00:05:20:01 Nick Clason If you're watching this, right here is a video that I have shot and have done no editing to, now, you can do that and you could post that to YouTube. And so let me just show you what the first like 10 seconds of this video look like. 00:05:20:01 - 00:05:30:13 Nick Clason this video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or whether they're bad. Think about it. 00:05:30:13 - 00:05:36:26 Nick Clason All right. And then let me show you what an edited version of this video looks like. 00:05:36:27 - 00:05:42:03 Nick Clason Same video, same content, but now there's editing on top of it. Let's check it out. 00:05:42:03 - 00:05:49:21 Nick Clason video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or 00:05:49:21 - 00:05:51:13 Nick Clason whether they're bad. Think about it. If you've 00:05:51:13 - 00:06:08:19 Nick Clason You see. And when we simply just drop our our non edited, unfiltered teaching on YouTube, the content can still be delivered and it can still get to the end user. Correct. Is it optimized and is it optimal? 00:06:08:19 - 00:06:17:19 Nick Clason Right. Like like you wouldn't show up to an expensive White House gala dressed as if you're going to a football game? 00:06:17:26 - 00:06:42:14 Nick Clason Right. And a lot of times that's what we as churches are doing on YouTube. And and YouTube is a great platform to capture and even post videos. But a lot of times we don't play the part where we don't go into it with the expectation or ability of of attaching ourselves to the appropriate, culturally appropriate kind of moment out there. 00:06:42:14 - 00:07:05:02 Nick Clason And that's what's going on when we're just simply livestreaming and just dropping the live stream without any sort of other work or editing or titling or tags or a thumbnail or anything on to YouTube. And so you wouldn't go to a gala dressed like you're going to a football game. So don't just drop your on edited unfiltered services on YouTube, right? 00:07:05:03 - 00:07:24:15 Nick Clason Because once you pre film your message once you capture your teaching somehow, someway on phone on a on a more expensive camera linked down below Sony ZVE-10 the camera that I recommend if you do want to go to the next level or if you want to start using your phone on YouTube, all of that is laid out 100% completely free e-book. 00:07:24:22 - 00:07:58:05 Nick Clason But once you start posting those things, right, once you start crafting and capturing your messages, you can then off of that dovetail into more of a robust and holistic social media strategy for youth ministries and for churches, one that has your voice and your face and your messaging woven all throughout your social media and your leaders and your students on camera. 00:07:58:07 - 00:08:23:28 Nick Clason So what platforms can you use to edit? I mean, very simply, if you are looking for a budget or more value engineered experience, there are two platforms that I recommend that are Free CapCut is a web based editor, and if as long as TikTok doesn't get banned, hopefully CapCut will be safe. CapCut and TikTok 00:08:23:29 - 00:08:45:20 Nick Clason are partners or CapCut was even created by TikTok.. And so it's definitely optimized for short form vertical based video which by the way, side note is good for your short form, vertical based video, but you can also drop in a full length teaching and you can do and have edits and animations and lower thirds and text on screen. 00:08:45:23 - 00:09:02:21 Nick Clason And so it's web based and so you don't have to download anything like new to your device or your computer or your program. So that might work. Well, if you have a really basic computer and don't have a lot of hard drive space, memory or RAM available to you, the next kind of layer up, I guess I would say, is Da Vinci Resolve. 00:09:02:21 - 00:09:29:15 Nick Clason They do have a free version of it as well as, of course, as most things do, a paid sort of tier. Beyond that, full disclosure, I have never edited a full length video in cap cut, nor have I ever even opened Da Vinci Resolve because what I use and I'm not trying to sound boujee or anything like that, but I do use Adobe Premiere Pro out of the Adobe Creative Cloud and Adobe Suite. 00:09:29:18 - 00:09:55:09 Nick Clason It is probably one of the more expensive options, but the good news is that our church has a creative cloud license and so I'm able to be added in to that. And so you may check and see if as a youth pastor, your church is willing to to dig deep and spring for a more powerful program. And and all I'll say is this is while CapCut is a great free editing tool and DaVinci Resolve, I've heard amazing things. 00:09:55:11 - 00:10:16:24 Nick Clason You often get what you pay for or are willing to pay for. And so I can do just about anything. I have a vision for in Adobe Premiere Pro. And sometimes when you're using value or free software, you're really only going to get what you know, what you pay for an honorable mention. Of course, I also don't want to leave out Final Cut Pro. 00:10:16:26 - 00:10:40:21 Nick Clason It's a favorite of many people. Again, I've never used it, but these are just different options, suggestions and things that you can check out. Now. The the thing right. The question at hand is if you're a youth pastor and you have no design, no editing skills, how do you grow as an editor? Is that even necessary? Well, let's talk about it. 00:10:40:24 - 00:11:06:12 Nick Clason So how did you learn to ride a bike? Hopefully you learned how to ride a bike dropdown in the comments below when you learned how to ride a bike. But probably my guess is that you just did it a bunch. You practiced and in a lot of the same ways. Linked down below is my time management strategy. If you want to grow as an editor, create time time block for yourself. 00:11:06:12 - 00:11:32:00 Nick Clason Tell yourself when you're going to learn this and then go learn it. I also have a link to below three different Adobe Photoshop in Adobe Premiere Pro. So if there is a platform that you do decide to go with editing videos, how to edit long form video, long form teaching videos, short form teaching videos and create graphics for them using Adobe Photoshop, all of that is available for you, but you simply just got to put in the work. 00:11:32:03 - 00:11:51:11 Nick Clason Like we live in a microwave culture where we want a quick fix, quick answer, immediate results. Right now that looks great and is professional, but the God honest truth in all of this is like if we want to get better at something, we have to start investing in it. And so 00:11:51:11 - 00:11:55:22 Nick Clason if editing your videos is important, then you should put the time in. 00:11:55:22 - 00:12:31:17 Nick Clason Now, here's another little thing, and I have a limited time offer, very, very limited time offer. I have currently opened up three free spaces for you or anyone as a youth pastor to get a series edited by me completely for free. That info is going to be linked on the screen or down below, but I will do your video for free as I am trying to grow in my ability for editing as well as my offerings for youth pastors. 00:12:31:17 - 00:13:01:28 Nick Clason And so if it's something that you're interested in, reach out to see if it's still available. If not, I do have a budget version of it as well. If those three free spaces are not available, but reach out to me because you might not be an editor and you may not have the time to learn it, but I would be more than willing and more than happy to help you take your editing to the next level and not not in like a coaching type of thing. 00:13:01:28 - 00:13:39:17 Nick Clason Like, I'll just I'll do it for you. Like, I will take your videos, I will edit them, I will make them look professional, and then I will post them on YouTube for you, or at least show you how to post them. Because once you have edited long form videos, that is going to help you lay out, dish out and flesh out a full social media strategy where everything on your social media is focused on the message that you're teaching live in youth group that week, which is actually what we're going to talk about in the next video in this YouTube playlist linked right here on screen. 00:13:39:19 - 00:13:51:30 Nick Clason I hope you watch that. I hope you check it out. 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Should Churches Quit Live-Streaming their videos to YouTube?
If YouTube is as relevant and powerful of a platform, it seems as though we should be making it a top priority
How can youth pastors grow as video editors and make the maximum impact on their students and teenagers?
Follow along as we unpack how to grow on YouTube for Youth Ministries
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 How to Show Up Digitally for your Students
01:40 Livestream or Pre-Film: The Power of Editing
07:43 Video Editing Platforms
10:28 Growing as a Video Editor

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:30:01
Nick Clason
Youth pastors My guess is that you would like to be there for hurting and struggling teenagers and be able to ultimately point them to Jesus. What if I told you that you could show up in a place where 95% of them have been will go or plan to go? You would probably do whatever it took to find your way there and help point those kids

00:00:30:04 - 00:00:55:19
Nick Clason
to Jesus, what if I also told you that that place was YouTube? Well, it's true. According to Pew Research, 95% of teens are on or have been on YouTube. Here's the good news. We are currently in the middle of a playlist linked right here at the top of the video about YouTube for Youth Ministries, Everything you need to know from the philosophy to the tactile, getting it done and getting it posted.

00:00:55:19 - 00:01:26:04
Nick Clason
And today we're talking about the dreaded editing, editing of videos like Subscribe and Turn On the Bell, because I want to help you show up where 95% of your teenagers are. And I'm doing it on YouTube 100% completely for free in this video. I want to explore the debate of livestream versus pre shooting and pre filming. Your messages how you as a youth pastor can grow as a video editor and designer.

00:01:26:06 - 00:01:53:15
Nick Clason
We're also going to talk about how you can get professional YouTube videos edited for completely free by somebody else. Sound too good to be true? Stick around to find out. So should we livestream our services and post them online or should we pre film our messages? Well, for me, as a youth pastor, that was a debate that I had when I started at the church that I'm working at right now.

00:01:53:17 - 00:02:16:22
Nick Clason
Started here in September of 2022. And I wanted because we were a in-person church, I wanted to livestream our messages. I wanted to livestream our messages mostly so that I could take the livestream long form video, clip it up into shorts and post it on social media throughout the week. I didn't want to do double work, and pre filming feels a little bit like double work.

00:02:16:22 - 00:02:46:20
Nick Clason
And so eventually I landed on pre filming our messages. Not from a strategy standpoint, but honestly from a needs standpoint. We weren't going to retrofit or make the the room have the accommodations to livestream. We weren't going to put the budget resources behind livestreaming our services. And frankly, I didn't even want to livestream as much as I just wanted to live capture the message via video more than just a cell phone on a tripod in the back of the room, on the sound booth.

00:02:46:21 - 00:03:09:20
Nick Clason
And so we started pre filming our messages out of necessity. But one of the things that I noticed and have discovered and come to now, so that was out of necessity, but now out of preference, I would say I will probably forever and always pre film my messages because think about it when you're on YouTube, this is often what us as churches are going up against this on screen.

00:03:09:20 - 00:03:47:29
Nick Clason
If you're not watching, if you're just listening, you can head to the link in the show notes, watch the YouTube video. Mr. Beast and his thumbnail and his 15 minute YouTube video is a type of content that most people are going on to YouTube to watch in an entertaining sort of manner, entertaining sort of fashion. Meanwhile, churches are an hour and 37 minute service with all of the pre-roll announcements and all of their worship services and songs and pastor and announcement and everything is dropped on YouTube without any sort of custom work on a thumbnail or titling or description.

00:03:48:00 - 00:04:20:08
Nick Clason
So all the the, the livestream with the way that we're approaching livestream on the back end, setting it up uploading, and we're going to get into all of that in this playlist as well. So make sure that you are subscribed, but all of that type of stuff matters as well, because as I mentioned in our most recent video, when a student is hurting, you want to be able for them to you want to be able to send them content and videos and resources and things that can help them make sense of the pain that they're experiencing.

00:04:20:11 - 00:04:39:09
Nick Clason
But you also want people to find it. So maybe a student you don't know or student doesn't feel comfortable, whatever the case might be coming to you and asking you that they need help, but you want them to stumble on your YouTube channel and you want them to be able to make sense of the pain and the suffering that they're that they're facing.

00:04:39:09 - 00:05:05:16
Nick Clason
And they're not going to be able to find that. If you have, like your youth group. March 13th, 2024 service. Like they don't know that the topic was on, you know, the problem of evil and how to attach yourself to Jesus when you're going through hard times. So actually, let me do this. This is if you're watching and you're going to probably want to watch this part or at least go back and check it out.

00:05:05:19 - 00:05:20:01
Nick Clason
If you're watching this, right here is a video that I have shot and have done no editing to, now, you can do that and you could post that to YouTube. And so let me just show you what the first like 10 seconds of this video look like.

00:05:20:01 - 00:05:30:13
Nick Clason
this video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or whether they're bad. Think about it.

00:05:30:13 - 00:05:36:26
Nick Clason
All right. And then let me show you what an edited version of this video looks like.

00:05:36:27 - 00:05:42:03
Nick Clason
Same video, same content, but now there's editing on top of it. Let's check it out.

00:05:42:03 - 00:05:49:21
Nick Clason
video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or

00:05:49:21 - 00:05:51:13
Nick Clason
whether they're bad. Think about it. If you've

00:05:51:13 - 00:06:08:19
Nick Clason
You see. And when we simply just drop our our non edited, unfiltered teaching on YouTube, the content can still be delivered and it can still get to the end user. Correct. Is it optimized and is it optimal?

00:06:08:19 - 00:06:17:19
Nick Clason
Right. Like like you wouldn't show up to an expensive White House gala dressed as if you're going to a football game?

00:06:17:26 - 00:06:42:14
Nick Clason
Right. And a lot of times that's what we as churches are doing on YouTube. And and YouTube is a great platform to capture and even post videos. But a lot of times we don't play the part where we don't go into it with the expectation or ability of of attaching ourselves to the appropriate, culturally appropriate kind of moment out there.

00:06:42:14 - 00:07:05:02
Nick Clason
And that's what's going on when we're just simply livestreaming and just dropping the live stream without any sort of other work or editing or titling or tags or a thumbnail or anything on to YouTube. And so you wouldn't go to a gala dressed like you're going to a football game. So don't just drop your on edited unfiltered services on YouTube, right?

00:07:05:03 - 00:07:24:15
Nick Clason
Because once you pre film your message once you capture your teaching somehow, someway on phone on a on a more expensive camera linked down below Sony ZVE-10 the camera that I recommend if you do want to go to the next level or if you want to start using your phone on YouTube, all of that is laid out 100% completely free e-book.

00:07:24:22 - 00:07:58:05
Nick Clason
But once you start posting those things, right, once you start crafting and capturing your messages, you can then off of that dovetail into more of a robust and holistic social media strategy for youth ministries and for churches, one that has your voice and your face and your messaging woven all throughout your social media and your leaders and your students on camera.

00:07:58:07 - 00:08:23:28
Nick Clason
So what platforms can you use to edit? I mean, very simply, if you are looking for a budget or more value engineered experience, there are two platforms that I recommend that are Free CapCut is a web based editor, and if as long as TikTok doesn't get banned, hopefully CapCut will be safe. CapCut and TikTok

00:08:23:29 - 00:08:45:20
Nick Clason
are partners or CapCut was even created by TikTok.. And so it's definitely optimized for short form vertical based video which by the way, side note is good for your short form, vertical based video, but you can also drop in a full length teaching and you can do and have edits and animations and lower thirds and text on screen.

00:08:45:23 - 00:09:02:21
Nick Clason
And so it's web based and so you don't have to download anything like new to your device or your computer or your program. So that might work. Well, if you have a really basic computer and don't have a lot of hard drive space, memory or RAM available to you, the next kind of layer up, I guess I would say, is Da Vinci Resolve.

00:09:02:21 - 00:09:29:15
Nick Clason
They do have a free version of it as well as, of course, as most things do, a paid sort of tier. Beyond that, full disclosure, I have never edited a full length video in cap cut, nor have I ever even opened Da Vinci Resolve because what I use and I'm not trying to sound boujee or anything like that, but I do use Adobe Premiere Pro out of the Adobe Creative Cloud and Adobe Suite.

00:09:29:18 - 00:09:55:09
Nick Clason
It is probably one of the more expensive options, but the good news is that our church has a creative cloud license and so I'm able to be added in to that. And so you may check and see if as a youth pastor, your church is willing to to dig deep and spring for a more powerful program. And and all I'll say is this is while CapCut is a great free editing tool and DaVinci Resolve, I've heard amazing things.

00:09:55:11 - 00:10:16:24
Nick Clason
You often get what you pay for or are willing to pay for. And so I can do just about anything. I have a vision for in Adobe Premiere Pro. And sometimes when you're using value or free software, you're really only going to get what you know, what you pay for an honorable mention. Of course, I also don't want to leave out Final Cut Pro.

00:10:16:26 - 00:10:40:21
Nick Clason
It's a favorite of many people. Again, I've never used it, but these are just different options, suggestions and things that you can check out. Now. The the thing right. The question at hand is if you're a youth pastor and you have no design, no editing skills, how do you grow as an editor? Is that even necessary? Well, let's talk about it.

00:10:40:24 - 00:11:06:12
Nick Clason
So how did you learn to ride a bike? Hopefully you learned how to ride a bike dropdown in the comments below when you learned how to ride a bike. But probably my guess is that you just did it a bunch. You practiced and in a lot of the same ways. Linked down below is my time management strategy. If you want to grow as an editor, create time time block for yourself.

00:11:06:12 - 00:11:32:00
Nick Clason
Tell yourself when you're going to learn this and then go learn it. I also have a link to below three different Adobe Photoshop in Adobe Premiere Pro. So if there is a platform that you do decide to go with editing videos, how to edit long form video, long form teaching videos, short form teaching videos and create graphics for them using Adobe Photoshop, all of that is available for you, but you simply just got to put in the work.

00:11:32:03 - 00:11:51:11
Nick Clason
Like we live in a microwave culture where we want a quick fix, quick answer, immediate results. Right now that looks great and is professional, but the God honest truth in all of this is like if we want to get better at something, we have to start investing in it. And so

00:11:51:11 - 00:11:55:22
Nick Clason
if editing your videos is important, then you should put the time in.

00:11:55:22 - 00:12:31:17
Nick Clason
Now, here's another little thing, and I have a limited time offer, very, very limited time offer. I have currently opened up three free spaces for you or anyone as a youth pastor to get a series edited by me completely for free. That info is going to be linked on the screen or down below, but I will do your video for free as I am trying to grow in my ability for editing as well as my offerings for youth pastors.

00:12:31:17 - 00:13:01:28
Nick Clason
And so if it's something that you're interested in, reach out to see if it's still available. If not, I do have a budget version of it as well. If those three free spaces are not available, but reach out to me because you might not be an editor and you may not have the time to learn it, but I would be more than willing and more than happy to help you take your editing to the next level and not not in like a coaching type of thing.

00:13:01:28 - 00:13:39:17
Nick Clason
Like, I'll just I'll do it for you. Like, I will take your videos, I will edit them, I will make them look professional, and then I will post them on YouTube for you, or at least show you how to post them. Because once you have edited long form videos, that is going to help you lay out, dish out and flesh out a full social media strategy where everything on your social media is focused on the message that you're teaching live in youth group that week, which is actually what we're going to talk about in the next video in this YouTube playlist linked right here on screen.

00:13:39:19 - 00:13:51:30
Nick Clason
I hope you watch that. I hope you check it out. And I hope that you continue to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. As always, stay hybrid.

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Should Churches Quit Live-Streaming their videos to YouTube?
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 How to Show Up Digitally for your Students
01:40 Livestream or Pre-Film: The Power of Editing
07:43 Video Editing Platforms
10:28 Growing as a Video Editor

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:30:01
Nick Clason
Youth pastors My guess is that you would like to be there for hurting and struggling teenagers and be able to ultimately point them to Jesus. What if I told you that you could show up in a place where 95% of them have been will go or plan to go? You would probably do whatever it took to find your way there and help point those kids

00:00:30:04 - 00:00:55:19
Nick Clason
to Jesus, what if I also told you that that place was YouTube? Well, it's true. According to Pew Research, 95% of teens are on or have been on YouTube. Here's the good news. We are currently in the middle of a playlist linked right here at the top of the video about YouTube for Youth Ministries, Everything you need to know from the philosophy to the tactile, getting it done and getting it posted.

00:00:55:19 - 00:01:26:04
Nick Clason
And today we're talking about the dreaded editing, editing of videos like Subscribe and Turn On the Bell, because I want to help you show up where 95% of your teenagers are. And I'm doing it on YouTube 100% completely for free in this video. I want to explore the debate of livestream versus pre shooting and pre filming. Your messages how you as a youth pastor can grow as a video editor and designer.

00:01:26:06 - 00:01:53:15
Nick Clason
We're also going to talk about how you can get professional YouTube videos edited for completely free by somebody else. Sound too good to be true? Stick around to find out. So should we livestream our services and post them online or should we pre film our messages? Well, for me, as a youth pastor, that was a debate that I had when I started at the church that I'm working at right now.

00:01:53:17 - 00:02:16:22
Nick Clason
Started here in September of 2022. And I wanted because we were a in-person church, I wanted to livestream our messages. I wanted to livestream our messages mostly so that I could take the livestream long form video, clip it up into shorts and post it on social media throughout the week. I didn't want to do double work, and pre filming feels a little bit like double work.

00:02:16:22 - 00:02:46:20
Nick Clason
And so eventually I landed on pre filming our messages. Not from a strategy standpoint, but honestly from a needs standpoint. We weren't going to retrofit or make the the room have the accommodations to livestream. We weren't going to put the budget resources behind livestreaming our services. And frankly, I didn't even want to livestream as much as I just wanted to live capture the message via video more than just a cell phone on a tripod in the back of the room, on the sound booth.

00:02:46:21 - 00:03:09:20
Nick Clason
And so we started pre filming our messages out of necessity. But one of the things that I noticed and have discovered and come to now, so that was out of necessity, but now out of preference, I would say I will probably forever and always pre film my messages because think about it when you're on YouTube, this is often what us as churches are going up against this on screen.

00:03:09:20 - 00:03:47:29
Nick Clason
If you're not watching, if you're just listening, you can head to the link in the show notes, watch the YouTube video. Mr. Beast and his thumbnail and his 15 minute YouTube video is a type of content that most people are going on to YouTube to watch in an entertaining sort of manner, entertaining sort of fashion. Meanwhile, churches are an hour and 37 minute service with all of the pre-roll announcements and all of their worship services and songs and pastor and announcement and everything is dropped on YouTube without any sort of custom work on a thumbnail or titling or description.

00:03:48:00 - 00:04:20:08
Nick Clason
So all the the, the livestream with the way that we're approaching livestream on the back end, setting it up uploading, and we're going to get into all of that in this playlist as well. So make sure that you are subscribed, but all of that type of stuff matters as well, because as I mentioned in our most recent video, when a student is hurting, you want to be able for them to you want to be able to send them content and videos and resources and things that can help them make sense of the pain that they're experiencing.

00:04:20:11 - 00:04:39:09
Nick Clason
But you also want people to find it. So maybe a student you don't know or student doesn't feel comfortable, whatever the case might be coming to you and asking you that they need help, but you want them to stumble on your YouTube channel and you want them to be able to make sense of the pain and the suffering that they're that they're facing.

00:04:39:09 - 00:05:05:16
Nick Clason
And they're not going to be able to find that. If you have, like your youth group. March 13th, 2024 service. Like they don't know that the topic was on, you know, the problem of evil and how to attach yourself to Jesus when you're going through hard times. So actually, let me do this. This is if you're watching and you're going to probably want to watch this part or at least go back and check it out.

00:05:05:19 - 00:05:20:01
Nick Clason
If you're watching this, right here is a video that I have shot and have done no editing to, now, you can do that and you could post that to YouTube. And so let me just show you what the first like 10 seconds of this video look like.

00:05:20:01 - 00:05:30:13
Nick Clason
this video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or whether they're bad. Think about it.

00:05:30:13 - 00:05:36:26
Nick Clason
All right. And then let me show you what an edited version of this video looks like.

00:05:36:27 - 00:05:42:03
Nick Clason
Same video, same content, but now there's editing on top of it. Let's check it out.

00:05:42:03 - 00:05:49:21
Nick Clason
video, we're going to explore the value of the final word. Final words are meaningful, right? Whether they're good or

00:05:49:21 - 00:05:51:13
Nick Clason
whether they're bad. Think about it. If you've

00:05:51:13 - 00:06:08:19
Nick Clason
You see. And when we simply just drop our our non edited, unfiltered teaching on YouTube, the content can still be delivered and it can still get to the end user. Correct. Is it optimized and is it optimal?

00:06:08:19 - 00:06:17:19
Nick Clason
Right. Like like you wouldn't show up to an expensive White House gala dressed as if you're going to a football game?

00:06:17:26 - 00:06:42:14
Nick Clason
Right. And a lot of times that's what we as churches are doing on YouTube. And and YouTube is a great platform to capture and even post videos. But a lot of times we don't play the part where we don't go into it with the expectation or ability of of attaching ourselves to the appropriate, culturally appropriate kind of moment out there.

00:06:42:14 - 00:07:05:02
Nick Clason
And that's what's going on when we're just simply livestreaming and just dropping the live stream without any sort of other work or editing or titling or tags or a thumbnail or anything on to YouTube. And so you wouldn't go to a gala dressed like you're going to a football game. So don't just drop your on edited unfiltered services on YouTube, right?

00:07:05:03 - 00:07:24:15
Nick Clason
Because once you pre film your message once you capture your teaching somehow, someway on phone on a on a more expensive camera linked down below Sony ZVE-10 the camera that I recommend if you do want to go to the next level or if you want to start using your phone on YouTube, all of that is laid out 100% completely free e-book.

00:07:24:22 - 00:07:58:05
Nick Clason
But once you start posting those things, right, once you start crafting and capturing your messages, you can then off of that dovetail into more of a robust and holistic social media strategy for youth ministries and for churches, one that has your voice and your face and your messaging woven all throughout your social media and your leaders and your students on camera.

00:07:58:07 - 00:08:23:28
Nick Clason
So what platforms can you use to edit? I mean, very simply, if you are looking for a budget or more value engineered experience, there are two platforms that I recommend that are Free CapCut is a web based editor, and if as long as TikTok doesn't get banned, hopefully CapCut will be safe. CapCut and TikTok

00:08:23:29 - 00:08:45:20
Nick Clason
are partners or CapCut was even created by TikTok.. And so it's definitely optimized for short form vertical based video which by the way, side note is good for your short form, vertical based video, but you can also drop in a full length teaching and you can do and have edits and animations and lower thirds and text on screen.

00:08:45:23 - 00:09:02:21
Nick Clason
And so it's web based and so you don't have to download anything like new to your device or your computer or your program. So that might work. Well, if you have a really basic computer and don't have a lot of hard drive space, memory or RAM available to you, the next kind of layer up, I guess I would say, is Da Vinci Resolve.

00:09:02:21 - 00:09:29:15
Nick Clason
They do have a free version of it as well as, of course, as most things do, a paid sort of tier. Beyond that, full disclosure, I have never edited a full length video in cap cut, nor have I ever even opened Da Vinci Resolve because what I use and I'm not trying to sound boujee or anything like that, but I do use Adobe Premiere Pro out of the Adobe Creative Cloud and Adobe Suite.

00:09:29:18 - 00:09:55:09
Nick Clason
It is probably one of the more expensive options, but the good news is that our church has a creative cloud license and so I'm able to be added in to that. And so you may check and see if as a youth pastor, your church is willing to to dig deep and spring for a more powerful program. And and all I'll say is this is while CapCut is a great free editing tool and DaVinci Resolve, I've heard amazing things.

00:09:55:11 - 00:10:16:24
Nick Clason
You often get what you pay for or are willing to pay for. And so I can do just about anything. I have a vision for in Adobe Premiere Pro. And sometimes when you're using value or free software, you're really only going to get what you know, what you pay for an honorable mention. Of course, I also don't want to leave out Final Cut Pro.

00:10:16:26 - 00:10:40:21
Nick Clason
It's a favorite of many people. Again, I've never used it, but these are just different options, suggestions and things that you can check out. Now. The the thing right. The question at hand is if you're a youth pastor and you have no design, no editing skills, how do you grow as an editor? Is that even necessary? Well, let's talk about it.

00:10:40:24 - 00:11:06:12
Nick Clason
So how did you learn to ride a bike? Hopefully you learned how to ride a bike dropdown in the comments below when you learned how to ride a bike. But probably my guess is that you just did it a bunch. You practiced and in a lot of the same ways. Linked down below is my time management strategy. If you want to grow as an editor, create time time block for yourself.

00:11:06:12 - 00:11:32:00
Nick Clason
Tell yourself when you're going to learn this and then go learn it. I also have a link to below three different Adobe Photoshop in Adobe Premiere Pro. So if there is a platform that you do decide to go with editing videos, how to edit long form video, long form teaching videos, short form teaching videos and create graphics for them using Adobe Photoshop, all of that is available for you, but you simply just got to put in the work.

00:11:32:03 - 00:11:51:11
Nick Clason
Like we live in a microwave culture where we want a quick fix, quick answer, immediate results. Right now that looks great and is professional, but the God honest truth in all of this is like if we want to get better at something, we have to start investing in it. And so

00:11:51:11 - 00:11:55:22
Nick Clason
if editing your videos is important, then you should put the time in.

00:11:55:22 - 00:12:31:17
Nick Clason
Now, here's another little thing, and I have a limited time offer, very, very limited time offer. I have currently opened up three free spaces for you or anyone as a youth pastor to get a series edited by me completely for free. That info is going to be linked on the screen or down below, but I will do your video for free as I am trying to grow in my ability for editing as well as my offerings for youth pastors.

00:12:31:17 - 00:13:01:28
Nick Clason
And so if it's something that you're interested in, reach out to see if it's still available. If not, I do have a budget version of it as well. If those three free spaces are not available, but reach out to me because you might not be an editor and you may not have the time to learn it, but I would be more than willing and more than happy to help you take your editing to the next level and not not in like a coaching type of thing.

00:13:01:28 - 00:13:39:17
Nick Clason
Like, I'll just I'll do it for you. Like, I will take your videos, I will edit them, I will make them look professional, and then I will post them on YouTube for you, or at least show you how to post them. Because once you have edited long form videos, that is going to help you lay out, dish out and flesh out a full social media strategy where everything on your social media is focused on the message that you're teaching live in youth group that week, which is actually what we're going to talk about in the next video in this YouTube playlist linked right here on screen.

00:13:39:19 - 00:13:51:30
Nick Clason
I hope you watch that. I hope you check it out. And I hope that you continue to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. As always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 091: ๐Ÿ“น YouTube for Youth Ministries https://www.hybridministry.xyz/091 4f3dbf7b-f444-4415-bcd7-b57cea2d0edb Thu, 04 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 091 ๐Ÿ“น YouTube for Youth Ministries full Nick Clason ๐Ÿ“น YouTube is an incredible platform for reaching teenagers with the message and hope of the gospel. ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ It's Clear that YouTube is (or should be) the most used platform for Youth Ministries ๐ŸŽคAs a Youth Pastor, you already have natural YouTube skills ๐Ÿ’ฅWe'll also unpack some of the other features that YouTube has to offer, beyond long-form video 16:45 no ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Video Editing for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/editing ๐Ÿ”ฅ [FREE] Hybrid Ministry Strategy Guide๐Ÿ”ฅ https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐Ÿ“น YouTube is an incredible platform for reaching teenagers with the message and hope of the gospel. ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ It's Clear that YouTube is (or should be) the most used platform for Youth Ministries ๐ŸŽคAs a Youth Pastor, you already have natural YouTube skills ๐Ÿ’ฅWe'll also unpack some of the other features that YouTube has to offer, beyond long-form video ๐Ÿ“น Follow along as we unpack YouTube for Youth Groups on our FREE Playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/091 //YOUTUBE VIDEO https://youtu.be/ucvXfaVRJ6E //YOUTH MINISTRY LEADER COHORT https://www.derryprenkert.com/ymlcohort/ //DYM FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/493666560814931 THE REASONS TO USE YOUTUBE //INSTAGRAM VS TIKTOK VS YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73ceADGZxQ&t=1063 YOUTH PASTORS ARE YOUTUBERS //STATISTICS FROM 4 PLATFORMS ADDED UP https://youtu.be/slB0Rmf_X0c?t=489 EXCLUSIVE FREE OFFER! //INQUIRE TO SEE IF THERE'S SPACE https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/editing ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐Ÿ“จ Full Proof Recruiting Email EMAIL: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/recruiting-email ๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut ๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/ebook ๐Ÿ“น "Adobe Premiere Pro Presets for Animating Layers" https://share.hsforms.com/1VL1oWwWwQ82PLwsPFkPITgnumis ====================================== ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products //BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv TRY REV.COM FOR TRANSCRIBING https://rev.pxf.io/R5nDOa -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 You Want to Reach More Students, Right? 01:15 The Statistics that Prove YouTube is a Perfect Strategy to Reaching Teenagers 04:22 The Reasons to Use YouTube 07:14 Youth Pastors are YouTubers 09:30 Exclusive Free Offer! 10:05 Answer Student's Questions 11:20 Other Features of YouTube that I Love! 14:35 It's time to make content on YouTube that's made for YouTube TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:02 - 00:00:28:05 Nick Clason Youth pastor. Let me guess. You want to reach more students and Youth Pastor, let me also guess that you care about pastoring and developing the students that God has already entrusted to you. Let me guess. You pour a lot of time, energy and effort into your teaching messages because you care about the students that God has given you and you want them to grasp the truth that's found in God's Word. 00:00:28:07 - 00:00:56:14 Nick Clason Listen, I agree with you, and I think that you work too hard to craft and pour over and study and pray and agonize over your messages only for them to die on your hard drive the moment that they're delivered. And so I think that we and all youth ministries should be leaning into the digital presence. That's why I've built this podcast, Hybrid Ministry. 00:00:56:14 - 00:01:24:26 Nick Clason So in this episode, we are going to talk about why youth ministries need to be on YouTube, why you should be on YouTube, and how you can get started and yeah, maybe even not add more work to your plate. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I'm absolutely pumped and fired up to talk to you about this because in my over a year journey on this podcast, I have grown to love YouTube. 00:01:25:02 - 00:01:54:22 Nick Clason When I started with social media and when I started trying to reach students on the Internet, YouTube was a distant kind of far strategy that was on my radar. Like it was like, I'll post some videos over there, but in my time since that, which was probably five, six, seven years ago, I have come to love YouTube and I am more and more convinced that YouTube in addition to all other digital and social mediums that we can effectively reach students with. 00:01:54:24 - 00:02:16:21 Nick Clason But YouTube is one of the best resources out there, and Gen Z, right? Gen Z, I'm not Gen Z, but the students are. We as youth pastors trying to reach they use their mobile device more than any other device combined. I've actually posted a clip that said that exact stat on my Tik tok, all my socials link down below in the description. 00:02:16:21 - 00:02:34:17 Nick Clason If you're interested in that, if you are watching via a podcast catcher I am and have some graphs and charts on screen via YouTube. The YouTube link is down below in the description as well, but they use their mobile device. Any other device combined. And one of the comments that I got was like, Well, no duh, what do you want us to do? 00:02:34:17 - 00:02:53:16 Nick Clason Use a portable DVD player? And I thought it was a hilarious comment because while they were sort of coming at me, it's an it's a fair question, like, yeah, what do we want Gen Z to do? Like use the archaic technology that we as millennials and Gen Xers and and older had to and were forced to use before the invention of the cell phone. 00:02:53:19 - 00:03:21:07 Nick Clason The cell phone is amazing. Additionally, 45% of teenagers claim to be online get this almost constantly and finally people say that they are two times double as likely to share video based content rather than text based posts. I am in a youth ministry leader cohort is based on Zoom. It's a national thing all across country. More information if you're interested in that down below in the show notes. 00:03:21:07 - 00:03:38:25 Nick Clason But I recently got tapped and asked in my cohort if I would be willing to workshop this idea of social media, and I was thrilled and honored with the opportunity. And so part of what I'm going to share with you today is actually from that presentation, but I'm going to expound upon it a little bit more because I think about like this. 00:03:38:25 - 00:04:09:21 Nick Clason If an alien were to come down and were to see these statistics that Gen Z uses their mobile device more than any phone, and 45% of teenagers, 45, almost half claimed to be online constantly and video based content is two times more likely to be shared. Then an alien would come down and be like, Dang, if you people are trying to actively reach young people with the most important message, the message that you have has been laid on your heart and that God has placed on you and said, Go preach the Gospel to all nations. 00:04:09:22 - 00:04:34:09 Nick Clason And by all means that part of our nations mean that must mean that youth ministries are crushing social media. Well, in the famous words of Lee Corso, Not so fast, my friend. And here's why I actually posted back in July 2019 the download Youth Ministry Facebook Community group linked to that. If you're not in that already on Facebook, it's a great community of ideas and questions and answers. 00:04:34:09 - 00:04:56:24 Nick Clason It's a really great place. But I my question was this and I think I have like 100 to 200 responses. So not a massive sample size, but also not small either. And I said, Hey, how would you rate your web and social presence right now? And many people said, okay, 49% said okay and 48% said really, really bad. 00:04:56:26 - 00:05:16:23 Nick Clason And only 3% said it was good, which I don't get how that math adds up, but feel free to double check me on that. Hey, if you are in the okay category, get going. Give me like like we're glad you're here. If you're in the bad category, then you probably only subscribe because this next playlist that we're in, I mean, honestly, it's for you. 00:05:16:23 - 00:05:47:25 Nick Clason And even if you're in the great category, turn the bell on because I want to help. Level up your YouTube game in this playlist that we are finding ourselves in. Talking about the importance and value of YouTube and why YouTube, right? Pew Research actually have some statistics. Again, if you're listening, you may want to scrub over to the YouTube section of this video where 20 in 2022, 95% of teenagers say that they have used the following apps or sites, the app that 95% of them said they use was YouTube. 00:05:47:28 - 00:06:12:11 Nick Clason The next highest was Tik Tok at 67%, a massive drop, Instagram at 62 and Snapchat 59 and Facebook at 32, which is down from 71% in this comparative study from 2014. And so actually we debated the topic Instagram versus Tik Tok versus YouTube right here. The video that you'll see if you're on YouTube right now, you can click on that and go watch that video. 00:06:12:11 - 00:06:50:19 Nick Clason As we explored the pros and cons of each of those categories. And then actually left a final verdict about which of those platforms you should be using. Hint Side note Spoiler alert it was YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world behind Google. Some may classify it as third, but even if you do buy into that third largest search engine in the world, think it's behind Google, Google images and then YouTube, which so Google and Google images kind of are one and the same, which is I think why people debate between second and third, nonetheless, is the only platform backed by the power of Google and the Google search engine. 00:06:50:24 - 00:07:12:27 Nick Clason So think about it. Why do you use YouTube? You jump on there to ask questions, how to change your oil and how to rewire a ceiling fan into your house and and how to, you know, get fastpass is that Disney, which unfortunately they don't have them anymore. But if you or anyone has connections down in Orlando and you want to give me a ticket, my family or come in in September, so send that on my way. 00:07:12:27 - 00:07:47:00 Nick Clason But nonetheless, we get on YouTube to get answers to questions. Guess what? What do we do As youth pastors? We answer students questions. YouTube and youth ministry are a match made in absolute heaven. Think about it. You're actually already doing this. Your series that you have planned for next month. You are planning it in response to answering a student's question, or you are planning it because you think that your students need this particular message or this particular topic or this particular book study. 00:07:47:00 - 00:08:15:27 Nick Clason Right. And the good news is all four social networks Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, all of them have a short form, vertical based video component right now that is taking the social media landscape by fire. So what that means for you and what that means for me is we can create one type of content, short form, vertical based video, which by the way, remember video posts two times more likely to be shared, and then we can post them across all of the platforms. 00:08:15:29 - 00:08:45:19 Nick Clason We no longer have to create content that's specifically curated for each platform. We can create one piece, one type of content to get that message out and spread it across all four of the social networks. I've done this before. A link down below some of my statistics to the particular section in the video where I did it, but I pulled like just four pieces of social media content across all four platforms and I added it up and you know, none of them were like amazingly high in their view rate. 00:08:45:19 - 00:09:21:04 Nick Clason But when you strung all four of them together, we reached over 500 students on a really badly performing post. And so my question to you and all youth pastors, like I said back at the beginning, is do you want to reach more students? Social media may in fact be the door in which you can reach more students, not because you're looking for vanity metrics, not because you want to become a famous influencer, but because you believe as a youth pastor that you have been given the burden to help carry out the Great Commission from Jesus Christ himself, to reach the world with the message of the Gospel and the message of hope. 00:09:21:07 - 00:09:49:28 Nick Clason And you can look directly into a camera and share that message with your students. And you, like I said, you're already answering their questions. What if you just started capturing those answers via video? I'm actually opening up a limited amount of spots, three in particular. In fact, they may already be filled up from some of my cohort friends where I am going to offer done for you editing you film your teaching message, you send me the footage, I will send it back to you edited. 00:09:50:05 - 00:10:09:24 Nick Clason I'll give you three short form, vertical based videos that you can post on whatever platforms you have, and I'll create a YouTube thumbnail for you to go ahead and get that thing started if you're interested. More information link down below in the show notes, in the description or in the podcast catcher wherever you are. But I love what Sean Cannell actually says. 00:10:09:24 - 00:10:30:01 Nick Clason He says what you should do on YouTube is answer specific questions. He calls it his ASQ strategy. And like I said, you're doing that when you're creating your teaching series. So like for example, in our student ministry, we just got done answering the specific question, How do you use the Bible? How do you use the Bible? Right? 00:10:30:03 - 00:10:43:26 Nick Clason Answer that question for your students and then when you have a student who comes to you two or three months later that says, Hey, can you help me get started on how to use my Bible? You don't have to be like, dog, we just did a series on that. Three months ago. I wish you would have been here. 00:10:43:28 - 00:11:06:02 Nick Clason You can give them the link to that content, right? And even your most strict homeschool best parents, which by the way, that's me. I have an eight year old, the five year old. We're probably going to homeschool our kids next year. They love YouTube and they watch YouTube, but they only are allowed to watch it. When we my wife and I are in the room with them on the big screen in our main living room. 00:11:06:04 - 00:11:27:10 Nick Clason And so you can you can deliver your content via YouTube to even the strictest parents and you can, you know, wave all the way up to the kids with absolutely no parental supervision on the Internet because all students, 95%, are on YouTube. Now, they may not be hungry for your content, and that's why you have to help kind of build and grow that audience. 00:11:27:10 - 00:11:53:11 Nick Clason And that's why I love that YouTube offers the shorts section. They have the kind of TikTok, discovery based algorithm stuff. We've gained a lot of subscribers just organically, both on this personal channel here and also on my student ministry channel, far more on my student ministry channel, by the way, because we're shooting and producing content with our students and we're also shooting and producing content with our student staff, that's fun, engaging and entertaining. 00:11:53:11 - 00:12:17:21 Nick Clason And then hopefully they follow us there and then maybe they get a little sneak peek of one of our short teaching reels or videos or whatever, and then that will link to a longer form, more elaborated, fleshed out answer to something that we're answering their specific question. I also love on YouTube. They have now the community tab with like polls and you can ask questions and you can post pictures and all kinds of stuff. 00:12:17:21 - 00:12:45:23 Nick Clason It mirrors a more traditional sort of social media experience that wasn't there before for YouTube. I also love, love, Love their playlist feature. It is both a great place to dump any and all of your series You can any like three, four, five, six, seven week series can be a three, four, five, six, seven video playlist. And additionally, we're going to get deeper into this in this particular how to use YouTube playlist on this channel. 00:12:45:23 - 00:13:04:03 Nick Clason It's very meta if you think about it. My playlist helping you create playlists on YouTube for your student ministry. But nonetheless, like you can also offer free courses to things that are necessary and need to be answered by your students. For example, we did one on baptism, but whenever you get up and preach on baptism, think about it. 00:13:04:03 - 00:13:27:24 Nick Clason A wide and vast majority of those students have already been baptized. And so in a lot of ways, what's a good message and a good reminder? It's also not always like pressing more relevant to every single student in your room. However, if you have a playlist, you can send that information to students and links and descriptions, subscribes, likes, all those types of things where you can help them move on into that next step. 00:13:27:24 - 00:13:53:19 Nick Clason You can meld the in-person and the digital and use it to work together, just like we all do in our own lives. We're using technology to to weave into an intersect, into the main and real parts of our lives. And also it's got the live kind of portion of the of YouTube that you can put a camera in the room and and livestream and you may be thinking, Dude, I can't livestream. 00:13:53:19 - 00:14:18:18 Nick Clason I don't have that capability in my youth room. Truth be told, neither do I. And that's actually why I propose that we as youth pastor should film videos very much like I'm doing right now on a camera and so on. This right here on screen is my e-book. It's 100% completely free, and in there is a link to my buyer's guide on getting YouTube gear set up for under $100. 00:14:18:25 - 00:14:52:18 Nick Clason You buy things like a tripod, a microphone and some lighting. You can do all that for under $100 and then use the cell phone that you already own that's in your pocket. And if you don't have a smartphone, find somebody in your life who does. You probably know someone would be my guess and then start filming pre filming your messages and we can get you started for under $100 and like I said, a limited run right now where I'm offering three people into my kind of beta trial course of I will edit your videos for you on social media, but live streaming is probably what most of us do. 00:14:52:18 - 00:15:19:14 Nick Clason It's probably how most of us post our church's content onto the internet, but that's not made for YouTube, that's made for church, which is why I actually, you know, I recommend pre filming the messages because you don't have live streaming capabilities, but I also recommend pre filling messages because it's what's made and optimized for YouTube. Would you rather watch a video that's made for YouTube or would you rather watch a video that's made for another experience? 00:15:19:14 - 00:15:44:15 Nick Clason Or are you sort of just in the back of the room and you're not the focal point? And the speaker, the presenter, they're not focused on you. They're focused on what's in front of them and they should be right. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages. It's not going to be that much more work. All you have to do is find time to sit down for 20 to 30 minutes per week, deliver your message, direct to camera, and potentially send it on to me to edit. 00:15:44:15 - 00:16:14:23 Nick Clason If not, you can do some basic editing. We're going to get into that in this playlist, but that's why I recommend pre filming because the most dynamic content, if you go to the YouTube home screen on your YouTube account, probably the content that is being delivered to you and fed to you through the algorithm is content that is made for the medium of YouTube and you can create content like that by pre filming your messages that you're already doing the study and work to produce and make. 00:16:14:23 - 00:16:45:18 Nick Clason And with a few small tweaks, we can get you up and running and launch a YouTube channel where you can reach students with the hope and the message of the gospel with a content that is made for the medium in which you're posting and we're going to get into all of that linked right here on the screen. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single other video here in this playlist we here at the hybrid ministry show want to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible for you. 00:16:45:21 - 00:16:48:04 Nick Clason So as always, stay hybrid. YouTube for Youth Groups, YouTube for Youth ministries, How to Film Messages for YouTube, Youth Pastors and YouTube, YouTube is made for Teenagers, YouTube and Student Pastors, Hybrid Ministry, Nick Clason, Youth Pastor Podcast, YouTube Coach, YouTube Thumbnails, PreFilm Messages on YouTube ๐Ÿ’ฅ [LIMITED TIME OFFER] Video Editing for Youth Pastors๐Ÿ’ฅ

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DESCRIPTION
๐Ÿ“น YouTube is an incredible platform for reaching teenagers with the message and hope of the gospel.

๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ It's Clear that YouTube is (or should be) the most used platform for Youth Ministries

๐ŸŽคAs a Youth Pastor, you already have natural YouTube skills

๐Ÿ’ฅWe'll also unpack some of the other features that YouTube has to offer, beyond long-form video

๐Ÿ“น Follow along as we unpack YouTube for Youth Groups on our FREE Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLHMhNNfqmmmAsKRJ1VCBJl
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๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/091

//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/ucvXfaVRJ6E

//YOUTH MINISTRY LEADER COHORT
https://www.derryprenkert.com/ymlcohort/

//DYM FACEBOOK GROUP
https://www.facebook.com/groups/493666560814931

THE REASONS TO USE YOUTUBE
//INSTAGRAM VS TIKTOK VS YOUTUBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73ceADGZxQ&t=1063

YOUTH PASTORS ARE YOUTUBERS
//STATISTICS FROM 4 PLATFORMS ADDED UP
https://youtu.be/slB0Rmf_X0c?t=489

EXCLUSIVE FREE OFFER!
//INQUIRE TO SEE IF THERE'S SPACE
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/editing

๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry
Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz

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๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“
๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy"
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๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources"
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๐Ÿ“จ Full Proof Recruiting Email
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๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide"
GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut

๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?"
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//YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 You Want to Reach More Students, Right?
01:15 The Statistics that Prove YouTube is a Perfect Strategy to Reaching Teenagers
04:22 The Reasons to Use YouTube
07:14 Youth Pastors are YouTubers
09:30 Exclusive Free Offer!
10:05 Answer Student's Questions
11:20 Other Features of YouTube that I Love!
14:35 It's time to make content on YouTube that's made for YouTube

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:02 - 00:00:28:05
Nick Clason
Youth pastor. Let me guess. You want to reach more students and Youth Pastor, let me also guess that you care about pastoring and developing the students that God has already entrusted to you. Let me guess. You pour a lot of time, energy and effort into your teaching messages because you care about the students that God has given you and you want them to grasp the truth that's found in God's Word.

00:00:28:07 - 00:00:56:14
Nick Clason
Listen, I agree with you, and I think that you work too hard to craft and pour over and study and pray and agonize over your messages only for them to die on your hard drive the moment that they're delivered. And so I think that we and all youth ministries should be leaning into the digital presence. That's why I've built this podcast, Hybrid Ministry.

00:00:56:14 - 00:01:24:26
Nick Clason
So in this episode, we are going to talk about why youth ministries need to be on YouTube, why you should be on YouTube, and how you can get started and yeah, maybe even not add more work to your plate. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I'm absolutely pumped and fired up to talk to you about this because in my over a year journey on this podcast, I have grown to love YouTube.

00:01:25:02 - 00:01:54:22
Nick Clason
When I started with social media and when I started trying to reach students on the Internet, YouTube was a distant kind of far strategy that was on my radar. Like it was like, I'll post some videos over there, but in my time since that, which was probably five, six, seven years ago, I have come to love YouTube and I am more and more convinced that YouTube in addition to all other digital and social mediums that we can effectively reach students with.

00:01:54:24 - 00:02:16:21
Nick Clason
But YouTube is one of the best resources out there, and Gen Z, right? Gen Z, I'm not Gen Z, but the students are. We as youth pastors trying to reach they use their mobile device more than any other device combined. I've actually posted a clip that said that exact stat on my Tik tok, all my socials link down below in the description.

00:02:16:21 - 00:02:34:17
Nick Clason
If you're interested in that, if you are watching via a podcast catcher I am and have some graphs and charts on screen via YouTube. The YouTube link is down below in the description as well, but they use their mobile device. Any other device combined. And one of the comments that I got was like, Well, no duh, what do you want us to do?

00:02:34:17 - 00:02:53:16
Nick Clason
Use a portable DVD player? And I thought it was a hilarious comment because while they were sort of coming at me, it's an it's a fair question, like, yeah, what do we want Gen Z to do? Like use the archaic technology that we as millennials and Gen Xers and and older had to and were forced to use before the invention of the cell phone.

00:02:53:19 - 00:03:21:07
Nick Clason
The cell phone is amazing. Additionally, 45% of teenagers claim to be online get this almost constantly and finally people say that they are two times double as likely to share video based content rather than text based posts. I am in a youth ministry leader cohort is based on Zoom. It's a national thing all across country. More information if you're interested in that down below in the show notes.

00:03:21:07 - 00:03:38:25
Nick Clason
But I recently got tapped and asked in my cohort if I would be willing to workshop this idea of social media, and I was thrilled and honored with the opportunity. And so part of what I'm going to share with you today is actually from that presentation, but I'm going to expound upon it a little bit more because I think about like this.

00:03:38:25 - 00:04:09:21
Nick Clason
If an alien were to come down and were to see these statistics that Gen Z uses their mobile device more than any phone, and 45% of teenagers, 45, almost half claimed to be online constantly and video based content is two times more likely to be shared. Then an alien would come down and be like, Dang, if you people are trying to actively reach young people with the most important message, the message that you have has been laid on your heart and that God has placed on you and said, Go preach the Gospel to all nations.

00:04:09:22 - 00:04:34:09
Nick Clason
And by all means that part of our nations mean that must mean that youth ministries are crushing social media. Well, in the famous words of Lee Corso, Not so fast, my friend. And here's why I actually posted back in July 2019 the download Youth Ministry Facebook Community group linked to that. If you're not in that already on Facebook, it's a great community of ideas and questions and answers.

00:04:34:09 - 00:04:56:24
Nick Clason
It's a really great place. But I my question was this and I think I have like 100 to 200 responses. So not a massive sample size, but also not small either. And I said, Hey, how would you rate your web and social presence right now? And many people said, okay, 49% said okay and 48% said really, really bad.

00:04:56:26 - 00:05:16:23
Nick Clason
And only 3% said it was good, which I don't get how that math adds up, but feel free to double check me on that. Hey, if you are in the okay category, get going. Give me like like we're glad you're here. If you're in the bad category, then you probably only subscribe because this next playlist that we're in, I mean, honestly, it's for you.

00:05:16:23 - 00:05:47:25
Nick Clason
And even if you're in the great category, turn the bell on because I want to help. Level up your YouTube game in this playlist that we are finding ourselves in. Talking about the importance and value of YouTube and why YouTube, right? Pew Research actually have some statistics. Again, if you're listening, you may want to scrub over to the YouTube section of this video where 20 in 2022, 95% of teenagers say that they have used the following apps or sites, the app that 95% of them said they use was YouTube.

00:05:47:28 - 00:06:12:11
Nick Clason
The next highest was Tik Tok at 67%, a massive drop, Instagram at 62 and Snapchat 59 and Facebook at 32, which is down from 71% in this comparative study from 2014. And so actually we debated the topic Instagram versus Tik Tok versus YouTube right here. The video that you'll see if you're on YouTube right now, you can click on that and go watch that video.

00:06:12:11 - 00:06:50:19
Nick Clason
As we explored the pros and cons of each of those categories. And then actually left a final verdict about which of those platforms you should be using. Hint Side note Spoiler alert it was YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world behind Google. Some may classify it as third, but even if you do buy into that third largest search engine in the world, think it's behind Google, Google images and then YouTube, which so Google and Google images kind of are one and the same, which is I think why people debate between second and third, nonetheless, is the only platform backed by the power of Google and the Google search engine.

00:06:50:24 - 00:07:12:27
Nick Clason
So think about it. Why do you use YouTube? You jump on there to ask questions, how to change your oil and how to rewire a ceiling fan into your house and and how to, you know, get fastpass is that Disney, which unfortunately they don't have them anymore. But if you or anyone has connections down in Orlando and you want to give me a ticket, my family or come in in September, so send that on my way.

00:07:12:27 - 00:07:47:00
Nick Clason
But nonetheless, we get on YouTube to get answers to questions. Guess what? What do we do As youth pastors? We answer students questions. YouTube and youth ministry are a match made in absolute heaven. Think about it. You're actually already doing this. Your series that you have planned for next month. You are planning it in response to answering a student's question, or you are planning it because you think that your students need this particular message or this particular topic or this particular book study.

00:07:47:00 - 00:08:15:27
Nick Clason
Right. And the good news is all four social networks Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, all of them have a short form, vertical based video component right now that is taking the social media landscape by fire. So what that means for you and what that means for me is we can create one type of content, short form, vertical based video, which by the way, remember video posts two times more likely to be shared, and then we can post them across all of the platforms.

00:08:15:29 - 00:08:45:19
Nick Clason
We no longer have to create content that's specifically curated for each platform. We can create one piece, one type of content to get that message out and spread it across all four of the social networks. I've done this before. A link down below some of my statistics to the particular section in the video where I did it, but I pulled like just four pieces of social media content across all four platforms and I added it up and you know, none of them were like amazingly high in their view rate.

00:08:45:19 - 00:09:21:04
Nick Clason
But when you strung all four of them together, we reached over 500 students on a really badly performing post. And so my question to you and all youth pastors, like I said back at the beginning, is do you want to reach more students? Social media may in fact be the door in which you can reach more students, not because you're looking for vanity metrics, not because you want to become a famous influencer, but because you believe as a youth pastor that you have been given the burden to help carry out the Great Commission from Jesus Christ himself, to reach the world with the message of the Gospel and the message of hope.

00:09:21:07 - 00:09:49:28
Nick Clason
And you can look directly into a camera and share that message with your students. And you, like I said, you're already answering their questions. What if you just started capturing those answers via video? I'm actually opening up a limited amount of spots, three in particular. In fact, they may already be filled up from some of my cohort friends where I am going to offer done for you editing you film your teaching message, you send me the footage, I will send it back to you edited.

00:09:50:05 - 00:10:09:24
Nick Clason
I'll give you three short form, vertical based videos that you can post on whatever platforms you have, and I'll create a YouTube thumbnail for you to go ahead and get that thing started if you're interested. More information link down below in the show notes, in the description or in the podcast catcher wherever you are. But I love what Sean Cannell actually says.

00:10:09:24 - 00:10:30:01
Nick Clason
He says what you should do on YouTube is answer specific questions. He calls it his ASQ strategy. And like I said, you're doing that when you're creating your teaching series. So like for example, in our student ministry, we just got done answering the specific question, How do you use the Bible? How do you use the Bible? Right?

00:10:30:03 - 00:10:43:26
Nick Clason
Answer that question for your students and then when you have a student who comes to you two or three months later that says, Hey, can you help me get started on how to use my Bible? You don't have to be like, dog, we just did a series on that. Three months ago. I wish you would have been here.

00:10:43:28 - 00:11:06:02
Nick Clason
You can give them the link to that content, right? And even your most strict homeschool best parents, which by the way, that's me. I have an eight year old, the five year old. We're probably going to homeschool our kids next year. They love YouTube and they watch YouTube, but they only are allowed to watch it. When we my wife and I are in the room with them on the big screen in our main living room.

00:11:06:04 - 00:11:27:10
Nick Clason
And so you can you can deliver your content via YouTube to even the strictest parents and you can, you know, wave all the way up to the kids with absolutely no parental supervision on the Internet because all students, 95%, are on YouTube. Now, they may not be hungry for your content, and that's why you have to help kind of build and grow that audience.

00:11:27:10 - 00:11:53:11
Nick Clason
And that's why I love that YouTube offers the shorts section. They have the kind of TikTok, discovery based algorithm stuff. We've gained a lot of subscribers just organically, both on this personal channel here and also on my student ministry channel, far more on my student ministry channel, by the way, because we're shooting and producing content with our students and we're also shooting and producing content with our student staff, that's fun, engaging and entertaining.

00:11:53:11 - 00:12:17:21
Nick Clason
And then hopefully they follow us there and then maybe they get a little sneak peek of one of our short teaching reels or videos or whatever, and then that will link to a longer form, more elaborated, fleshed out answer to something that we're answering their specific question. I also love on YouTube. They have now the community tab with like polls and you can ask questions and you can post pictures and all kinds of stuff.

00:12:17:21 - 00:12:45:23
Nick Clason
It mirrors a more traditional sort of social media experience that wasn't there before for YouTube. I also love, love, Love their playlist feature. It is both a great place to dump any and all of your series You can any like three, four, five, six, seven week series can be a three, four, five, six, seven video playlist. And additionally, we're going to get deeper into this in this particular how to use YouTube playlist on this channel.

00:12:45:23 - 00:13:04:03
Nick Clason
It's very meta if you think about it. My playlist helping you create playlists on YouTube for your student ministry. But nonetheless, like you can also offer free courses to things that are necessary and need to be answered by your students. For example, we did one on baptism, but whenever you get up and preach on baptism, think about it.

00:13:04:03 - 00:13:27:24
Nick Clason
A wide and vast majority of those students have already been baptized. And so in a lot of ways, what's a good message and a good reminder? It's also not always like pressing more relevant to every single student in your room. However, if you have a playlist, you can send that information to students and links and descriptions, subscribes, likes, all those types of things where you can help them move on into that next step.

00:13:27:24 - 00:13:53:19
Nick Clason
You can meld the in-person and the digital and use it to work together, just like we all do in our own lives. We're using technology to to weave into an intersect, into the main and real parts of our lives. And also it's got the live kind of portion of the of YouTube that you can put a camera in the room and and livestream and you may be thinking, Dude, I can't livestream.

00:13:53:19 - 00:14:18:18
Nick Clason
I don't have that capability in my youth room. Truth be told, neither do I. And that's actually why I propose that we as youth pastor should film videos very much like I'm doing right now on a camera and so on. This right here on screen is my e-book. It's 100% completely free, and in there is a link to my buyer's guide on getting YouTube gear set up for under $100.

00:14:18:25 - 00:14:52:18
Nick Clason
You buy things like a tripod, a microphone and some lighting. You can do all that for under $100 and then use the cell phone that you already own that's in your pocket. And if you don't have a smartphone, find somebody in your life who does. You probably know someone would be my guess and then start filming pre filming your messages and we can get you started for under $100 and like I said, a limited run right now where I'm offering three people into my kind of beta trial course of I will edit your videos for you on social media, but live streaming is probably what most of us do.

00:14:52:18 - 00:15:19:14
Nick Clason
It's probably how most of us post our church's content onto the internet, but that's not made for YouTube, that's made for church, which is why I actually, you know, I recommend pre filming the messages because you don't have live streaming capabilities, but I also recommend pre filling messages because it's what's made and optimized for YouTube. Would you rather watch a video that's made for YouTube or would you rather watch a video that's made for another experience?

00:15:19:14 - 00:15:44:15
Nick Clason
Or are you sort of just in the back of the room and you're not the focal point? And the speaker, the presenter, they're not focused on you. They're focused on what's in front of them and they should be right. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages. It's not going to be that much more work. All you have to do is find time to sit down for 20 to 30 minutes per week, deliver your message, direct to camera, and potentially send it on to me to edit.

00:15:44:15 - 00:16:14:23
Nick Clason
If not, you can do some basic editing. We're going to get into that in this playlist, but that's why I recommend pre filming because the most dynamic content, if you go to the YouTube home screen on your YouTube account, probably the content that is being delivered to you and fed to you through the algorithm is content that is made for the medium of YouTube and you can create content like that by pre filming your messages that you're already doing the study and work to produce and make.

00:16:14:23 - 00:16:45:18
Nick Clason
And with a few small tweaks, we can get you up and running and launch a YouTube channel where you can reach students with the hope and the message of the gospel with a content that is made for the medium in which you're posting and we're going to get into all of that linked right here on the screen. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single other video here in this playlist we here at the hybrid ministry show want to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible for you.

00:16:45:21 - 00:16:48:04
Nick Clason
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 You Want to Reach More Students, Right?
01:15 The Statistics that Prove YouTube is a Perfect Strategy to Reaching Teenagers
04:22 The Reasons to Use YouTube
07:14 Youth Pastors are YouTubers
09:30 Exclusive Free Offer!
10:05 Answer Student's Questions
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TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:02 - 00:00:28:05
Nick Clason
Youth pastor. Let me guess. You want to reach more students and Youth Pastor, let me also guess that you care about pastoring and developing the students that God has already entrusted to you. Let me guess. You pour a lot of time, energy and effort into your teaching messages because you care about the students that God has given you and you want them to grasp the truth that's found in God's Word.

00:00:28:07 - 00:00:56:14
Nick Clason
Listen, I agree with you, and I think that you work too hard to craft and pour over and study and pray and agonize over your messages only for them to die on your hard drive the moment that they're delivered. And so I think that we and all youth ministries should be leaning into the digital presence. That's why I've built this podcast, Hybrid Ministry.

00:00:56:14 - 00:01:24:26
Nick Clason
So in this episode, we are going to talk about why youth ministries need to be on YouTube, why you should be on YouTube, and how you can get started and yeah, maybe even not add more work to your plate. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I'm absolutely pumped and fired up to talk to you about this because in my over a year journey on this podcast, I have grown to love YouTube.

00:01:25:02 - 00:01:54:22
Nick Clason
When I started with social media and when I started trying to reach students on the Internet, YouTube was a distant kind of far strategy that was on my radar. Like it was like, I'll post some videos over there, but in my time since that, which was probably five, six, seven years ago, I have come to love YouTube and I am more and more convinced that YouTube in addition to all other digital and social mediums that we can effectively reach students with.

00:01:54:24 - 00:02:16:21
Nick Clason
But YouTube is one of the best resources out there, and Gen Z, right? Gen Z, I'm not Gen Z, but the students are. We as youth pastors trying to reach they use their mobile device more than any other device combined. I've actually posted a clip that said that exact stat on my Tik tok, all my socials link down below in the description.

00:02:16:21 - 00:02:34:17
Nick Clason
If you're interested in that, if you are watching via a podcast catcher I am and have some graphs and charts on screen via YouTube. The YouTube link is down below in the description as well, but they use their mobile device. Any other device combined. And one of the comments that I got was like, Well, no duh, what do you want us to do?

00:02:34:17 - 00:02:53:16
Nick Clason
Use a portable DVD player? And I thought it was a hilarious comment because while they were sort of coming at me, it's an it's a fair question, like, yeah, what do we want Gen Z to do? Like use the archaic technology that we as millennials and Gen Xers and and older had to and were forced to use before the invention of the cell phone.

00:02:53:19 - 00:03:21:07
Nick Clason
The cell phone is amazing. Additionally, 45% of teenagers claim to be online get this almost constantly and finally people say that they are two times double as likely to share video based content rather than text based posts. I am in a youth ministry leader cohort is based on Zoom. It's a national thing all across country. More information if you're interested in that down below in the show notes.

00:03:21:07 - 00:03:38:25
Nick Clason
But I recently got tapped and asked in my cohort if I would be willing to workshop this idea of social media, and I was thrilled and honored with the opportunity. And so part of what I'm going to share with you today is actually from that presentation, but I'm going to expound upon it a little bit more because I think about like this.

00:03:38:25 - 00:04:09:21
Nick Clason
If an alien were to come down and were to see these statistics that Gen Z uses their mobile device more than any phone, and 45% of teenagers, 45, almost half claimed to be online constantly and video based content is two times more likely to be shared. Then an alien would come down and be like, Dang, if you people are trying to actively reach young people with the most important message, the message that you have has been laid on your heart and that God has placed on you and said, Go preach the Gospel to all nations.

00:04:09:22 - 00:04:34:09
Nick Clason
And by all means that part of our nations mean that must mean that youth ministries are crushing social media. Well, in the famous words of Lee Corso, Not so fast, my friend. And here's why I actually posted back in July 2019 the download Youth Ministry Facebook Community group linked to that. If you're not in that already on Facebook, it's a great community of ideas and questions and answers.

00:04:34:09 - 00:04:56:24
Nick Clason
It's a really great place. But I my question was this and I think I have like 100 to 200 responses. So not a massive sample size, but also not small either. And I said, Hey, how would you rate your web and social presence right now? And many people said, okay, 49% said okay and 48% said really, really bad.

00:04:56:26 - 00:05:16:23
Nick Clason
And only 3% said it was good, which I don't get how that math adds up, but feel free to double check me on that. Hey, if you are in the okay category, get going. Give me like like we're glad you're here. If you're in the bad category, then you probably only subscribe because this next playlist that we're in, I mean, honestly, it's for you.

00:05:16:23 - 00:05:47:25
Nick Clason
And even if you're in the great category, turn the bell on because I want to help. Level up your YouTube game in this playlist that we are finding ourselves in. Talking about the importance and value of YouTube and why YouTube, right? Pew Research actually have some statistics. Again, if you're listening, you may want to scrub over to the YouTube section of this video where 20 in 2022, 95% of teenagers say that they have used the following apps or sites, the app that 95% of them said they use was YouTube.

00:05:47:28 - 00:06:12:11
Nick Clason
The next highest was Tik Tok at 67%, a massive drop, Instagram at 62 and Snapchat 59 and Facebook at 32, which is down from 71% in this comparative study from 2014. And so actually we debated the topic Instagram versus Tik Tok versus YouTube right here. The video that you'll see if you're on YouTube right now, you can click on that and go watch that video.

00:06:12:11 - 00:06:50:19
Nick Clason
As we explored the pros and cons of each of those categories. And then actually left a final verdict about which of those platforms you should be using. Hint Side note Spoiler alert it was YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world behind Google. Some may classify it as third, but even if you do buy into that third largest search engine in the world, think it's behind Google, Google images and then YouTube, which so Google and Google images kind of are one and the same, which is I think why people debate between second and third, nonetheless, is the only platform backed by the power of Google and the Google search engine.

00:06:50:24 - 00:07:12:27
Nick Clason
So think about it. Why do you use YouTube? You jump on there to ask questions, how to change your oil and how to rewire a ceiling fan into your house and and how to, you know, get fastpass is that Disney, which unfortunately they don't have them anymore. But if you or anyone has connections down in Orlando and you want to give me a ticket, my family or come in in September, so send that on my way.

00:07:12:27 - 00:07:47:00
Nick Clason
But nonetheless, we get on YouTube to get answers to questions. Guess what? What do we do As youth pastors? We answer students questions. YouTube and youth ministry are a match made in absolute heaven. Think about it. You're actually already doing this. Your series that you have planned for next month. You are planning it in response to answering a student's question, or you are planning it because you think that your students need this particular message or this particular topic or this particular book study.

00:07:47:00 - 00:08:15:27
Nick Clason
Right. And the good news is all four social networks Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, all of them have a short form, vertical based video component right now that is taking the social media landscape by fire. So what that means for you and what that means for me is we can create one type of content, short form, vertical based video, which by the way, remember video posts two times more likely to be shared, and then we can post them across all of the platforms.

00:08:15:29 - 00:08:45:19
Nick Clason
We no longer have to create content that's specifically curated for each platform. We can create one piece, one type of content to get that message out and spread it across all four of the social networks. I've done this before. A link down below some of my statistics to the particular section in the video where I did it, but I pulled like just four pieces of social media content across all four platforms and I added it up and you know, none of them were like amazingly high in their view rate.

00:08:45:19 - 00:09:21:04
Nick Clason
But when you strung all four of them together, we reached over 500 students on a really badly performing post. And so my question to you and all youth pastors, like I said back at the beginning, is do you want to reach more students? Social media may in fact be the door in which you can reach more students, not because you're looking for vanity metrics, not because you want to become a famous influencer, but because you believe as a youth pastor that you have been given the burden to help carry out the Great Commission from Jesus Christ himself, to reach the world with the message of the Gospel and the message of hope.

00:09:21:07 - 00:09:49:28
Nick Clason
And you can look directly into a camera and share that message with your students. And you, like I said, you're already answering their questions. What if you just started capturing those answers via video? I'm actually opening up a limited amount of spots, three in particular. In fact, they may already be filled up from some of my cohort friends where I am going to offer done for you editing you film your teaching message, you send me the footage, I will send it back to you edited.

00:09:50:05 - 00:10:09:24
Nick Clason
I'll give you three short form, vertical based videos that you can post on whatever platforms you have, and I'll create a YouTube thumbnail for you to go ahead and get that thing started if you're interested. More information link down below in the show notes, in the description or in the podcast catcher wherever you are. But I love what Sean Cannell actually says.

00:10:09:24 - 00:10:30:01
Nick Clason
He says what you should do on YouTube is answer specific questions. He calls it his ASQ strategy. And like I said, you're doing that when you're creating your teaching series. So like for example, in our student ministry, we just got done answering the specific question, How do you use the Bible? How do you use the Bible? Right?

00:10:30:03 - 00:10:43:26
Nick Clason
Answer that question for your students and then when you have a student who comes to you two or three months later that says, Hey, can you help me get started on how to use my Bible? You don't have to be like, dog, we just did a series on that. Three months ago. I wish you would have been here.

00:10:43:28 - 00:11:06:02
Nick Clason
You can give them the link to that content, right? And even your most strict homeschool best parents, which by the way, that's me. I have an eight year old, the five year old. We're probably going to homeschool our kids next year. They love YouTube and they watch YouTube, but they only are allowed to watch it. When we my wife and I are in the room with them on the big screen in our main living room.

00:11:06:04 - 00:11:27:10
Nick Clason
And so you can you can deliver your content via YouTube to even the strictest parents and you can, you know, wave all the way up to the kids with absolutely no parental supervision on the Internet because all students, 95%, are on YouTube. Now, they may not be hungry for your content, and that's why you have to help kind of build and grow that audience.

00:11:27:10 - 00:11:53:11
Nick Clason
And that's why I love that YouTube offers the shorts section. They have the kind of TikTok, discovery based algorithm stuff. We've gained a lot of subscribers just organically, both on this personal channel here and also on my student ministry channel, far more on my student ministry channel, by the way, because we're shooting and producing content with our students and we're also shooting and producing content with our student staff, that's fun, engaging and entertaining.

00:11:53:11 - 00:12:17:21
Nick Clason
And then hopefully they follow us there and then maybe they get a little sneak peek of one of our short teaching reels or videos or whatever, and then that will link to a longer form, more elaborated, fleshed out answer to something that we're answering their specific question. I also love on YouTube. They have now the community tab with like polls and you can ask questions and you can post pictures and all kinds of stuff.

00:12:17:21 - 00:12:45:23
Nick Clason
It mirrors a more traditional sort of social media experience that wasn't there before for YouTube. I also love, love, Love their playlist feature. It is both a great place to dump any and all of your series You can any like three, four, five, six, seven week series can be a three, four, five, six, seven video playlist. And additionally, we're going to get deeper into this in this particular how to use YouTube playlist on this channel.

00:12:45:23 - 00:13:04:03
Nick Clason
It's very meta if you think about it. My playlist helping you create playlists on YouTube for your student ministry. But nonetheless, like you can also offer free courses to things that are necessary and need to be answered by your students. For example, we did one on baptism, but whenever you get up and preach on baptism, think about it.

00:13:04:03 - 00:13:27:24
Nick Clason
A wide and vast majority of those students have already been baptized. And so in a lot of ways, what's a good message and a good reminder? It's also not always like pressing more relevant to every single student in your room. However, if you have a playlist, you can send that information to students and links and descriptions, subscribes, likes, all those types of things where you can help them move on into that next step.

00:13:27:24 - 00:13:53:19
Nick Clason
You can meld the in-person and the digital and use it to work together, just like we all do in our own lives. We're using technology to to weave into an intersect, into the main and real parts of our lives. And also it's got the live kind of portion of the of YouTube that you can put a camera in the room and and livestream and you may be thinking, Dude, I can't livestream.

00:13:53:19 - 00:14:18:18
Nick Clason
I don't have that capability in my youth room. Truth be told, neither do I. And that's actually why I propose that we as youth pastor should film videos very much like I'm doing right now on a camera and so on. This right here on screen is my e-book. It's 100% completely free, and in there is a link to my buyer's guide on getting YouTube gear set up for under $100.

00:14:18:25 - 00:14:52:18
Nick Clason
You buy things like a tripod, a microphone and some lighting. You can do all that for under $100 and then use the cell phone that you already own that's in your pocket. And if you don't have a smartphone, find somebody in your life who does. You probably know someone would be my guess and then start filming pre filming your messages and we can get you started for under $100 and like I said, a limited run right now where I'm offering three people into my kind of beta trial course of I will edit your videos for you on social media, but live streaming is probably what most of us do.

00:14:52:18 - 00:15:19:14
Nick Clason
It's probably how most of us post our church's content onto the internet, but that's not made for YouTube, that's made for church, which is why I actually, you know, I recommend pre filming the messages because you don't have live streaming capabilities, but I also recommend pre filling messages because it's what's made and optimized for YouTube. Would you rather watch a video that's made for YouTube or would you rather watch a video that's made for another experience?

00:15:19:14 - 00:15:44:15
Nick Clason
Or are you sort of just in the back of the room and you're not the focal point? And the speaker, the presenter, they're not focused on you. They're focused on what's in front of them and they should be right. That's why I recommend pre filming your messages. It's not going to be that much more work. All you have to do is find time to sit down for 20 to 30 minutes per week, deliver your message, direct to camera, and potentially send it on to me to edit.

00:15:44:15 - 00:16:14:23
Nick Clason
If not, you can do some basic editing. We're going to get into that in this playlist, but that's why I recommend pre filming because the most dynamic content, if you go to the YouTube home screen on your YouTube account, probably the content that is being delivered to you and fed to you through the algorithm is content that is made for the medium of YouTube and you can create content like that by pre filming your messages that you're already doing the study and work to produce and make.

00:16:14:23 - 00:16:45:18
Nick Clason
And with a few small tweaks, we can get you up and running and launch a YouTube channel where you can reach students with the hope and the message of the gospel with a content that is made for the medium in which you're posting and we're going to get into all of that linked right here on the screen. Make sure that you subscribe so that you don't miss a single other video here in this playlist we here at the hybrid ministry show want to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible for you.

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Nick Clason
So as always, stay hybrid.

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And what are some creative hacks to getting around it, if youโ€™re not ready or able yet? ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/090 //YOUTUBE VIDEO ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book โšก OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐Ÿ“จ Full Proof Recruiting Email EMAIL: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/recruiting-email ๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut ๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/ebook ๐Ÿ“น "Adobe Premiere Pro Presets for Animating Layers" https://share.hsforms.com/1VL1oWwWwQ82PLwsPFkPITgnumis ====================================== ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products //BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv TRY REV.COM FOR TRANSCRIBING https://rev.pxf.io/R5nDOa -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups 01:08 3 Factors to Consider Before Splitting Middle and High School 03:54 The Pros to Making the Split 05:23 The Cons of Making the Split 06:59 Four Creative Hacks to Reimagining the Split TRANSCRIPT 00;00;00;00 - 00;00;01;28 Nick Clason Youth pastors. 00;00;01;28 - 00;00;28;59 Nick Clason Have you ever had a high school student say to you, โ€œI don't want to come to youth group with that middle schooler!โ€ Give us a like if you know, a high school student who has done that and maybe subscribe if you've actually never heard that. And then the rest of us who have liked the video because we've had high school students do that will either know that you're lying or we're going to be super jealous because you and me all know that in the back of our heads, right? 00;00;29;00 - 00;00;56;35 Nick Clason Like we may or may not have the bandwidth or the time to split up the middle school and the high school students. And so, in today's video. We're going to explore the best, most premium and optimal time and way to split up your middle school and your high school students. Weโ€™ll talk about the three factors to consider. We will ask two clarifying questions in each of the sections. 00;00;56;40 - 00;01;20;09 Nick Clason The top two pros, the top two cons, and finally, some creative hacks to get around making the big switch. If you know you're not ready for or don't have the time for it, factor number one is your size. Like you have to consider how big is your group? What is your average group's critical mass. Thatโ€™s question number one? 00;01;20;12 - 00;01;49;42 Nick Clason Then number two in the sized question is what momentum will be lost by splitting up your students? The other factor you have to consider is your bandwidth. For example, like do you have the bandwidth to split middle school and high school? When I was working at church early on in my ministry, I determined that we had a big enough critical mass and that we could withstand this switch. 00;01;49;47 - 00;02;06;55 Nick Clason But then we had to switch and I had to add to my calendar and my schedule another night to meet. And I ended up deciding to make that decision. In that season of life. It was the right move and it was the right call. So we did middle school on Wednesday night and we did high school on Sunday night. 00;02;06;56 - 00;02;30;02 Nick Clason Prior to that, we did both of them together on Wednesday night. So Sunday night was a new addition. And looking back, I don't know actually, cause I only ended up running it for a year prior to then me moving on to a different church. I don't know if it was the right decision. You have to measure and know what your bandwidth is and if you have the bandwidth to split. 00;02;30;02 - 00;02;53;35 Nick Clason And I would recommend right here the top of this video is a video where we talked about time management and go through that. And that little exercise might actually help give you some clarification on do you truly have the bandwidth. Also, the second question under bandwidth is do you potentially have a volunteer to help you own that other piece, the other split piece as you navigate? 00;02;53;35 - 00;03;19;25 Nick Clason And then the third factor, of course, is space. Does your space in your church, does it accommodate it? And the second question is what constraints is this going to put on your space? So, for example, I worked at a church that didn't have a lot of space, even though it was a big church, big a big multi-site church in in Chicago area. 00;03;19;29 - 00;03;45;36 Nick Clason But other ministries had other nights of the week that they had things going on, like our groups ministry met and our junior home ministry met and are like grief share. I can't remember all the different ones, but there's always a different ministry on a different night of the week. And so our decision to either have junior high and high school together or split up was going to either demand two nights a week for our space or just one. 00;03;45;36 - 00;04;10;57 Nick Clason And then that that dictated how and when the other ministries in your space met. So a couple of pros for splitting up middle school and high school. Again, if if your size, if your bandwidth and if your space will all kind of accommodate it and if all those factors that you asked this question swirl around are working together, pro number one, of course, is like developmentally 00;04;11;51 - 00;04;28;39 Nick Clason splitting middle school and high school seems to be appropriate. I mean, you just think about it. I think of that sixth grade boy in your group and then think of that 12th grade girl, like developmentally speaking. They're just in two different spots and this is no shade thrown on that sixth grade boy or that 12th grade girl. 00;04;28;44 - 00;05;13;44 Nick Clason But, you know, they each need different things, their need. They need to be challenged in a different way. And so splitting them up will help you as a youth pastor, be able to navigate that well, to be able to really, truly give and provide for each of those people individually what they need and what they're looking for. Pro Number two is that probably the high school students preference, it may not be the middle school students preference on the top, but underneath that it may actually be the best thing for a middle school student to give them their own space, to just simply be a middle schooler and not have high schoolers looking over frustratedly 00;05;13;45 - 00;05;37;36 Nick Clason or condemningly or even just being annoyed. And the high school students may want their own space to kind of lean into and be uniquely high school students. But the cons, of course, are it is more taxing on you as the individual or on you in your time or on you and your space. And so you may be in a context that has multiple staff and so that may be the solution. 00;05;37;36 - 00;06;03;36 Nick Clason One of you runs one night and run one of you runs another night. But if you are your own person and if you do not have the staff to accommodate something like this, then it is going to be more taxing and another con I honestly would say is that it's not necessarily it doesn't necessarily give students a realistic view and or picture of the rest of life in the rest of the world. 00;06;03;36 - 00;06;27;24 Nick Clason Like right now, I am a 34 year old youth pastor at a church and there is not one other 34 year old on my staff. As far as I know, I could be wrong and I might not be thinking about a certain person, but the fact of the matter is like I interact with Boomers and Xers and us another Millennials that is now my exact age and also some people that are Gen Z and so on. 00;06;27;24 - 00;06;57;17 Nick Clason Our staff, we have an age range all the way from 20 up to like 60, 65 ish, right? Like we have a big span of age. And so sometimes like segmenting down our ministries, while they may be developmentally good or they may also be like preferences of certain ages at the high school students and middle school students, it may not be what is best for them, and it may not give them the most realistic picture of what their future life is going to be. 00;06;57;22 - 00;07;27;11 Nick Clason Which leads me to my third idea three creative hacks to kind of get around this. If you don't have the bandwidth and if you're not quite yet ready to split middle school and high school, the first one is stagger your programing. So maybe you have your students meet all within the same time block Which I would probably recommend for like parentโ€™s sake, If they have a middle school student and a high school student, they don't have to drop off and pick up at different time. 00;07;27;11 - 00;07;54;21 Nick Clason So if it's like 6 to 8, they drop off both students. But then inside the building, middle schoolers are in this element of your service and high schoolers are in this element of the service, and then they switch and then high school switch to this element while middle schoolers then switch to that element. That is a way for you to lean into a good volunteer, to be able to run the additional space so that you can be teaching or running the game or wherever you need to be in those moments. 00;07;54;26 - 00;08;17;15 Nick Clason But it will also give middle school and high school students their own unique difference set up and their own unique, different space. Another creative hack answer that I have is consider the idea of going hybrid and you're like, Wait a minute, that doesn't do anything for the space. And in some ways you're 100% right, but leaves right here in mind 100% completely free e-book. 00;08;17;15 - 00;08;41;53 Nick Clason I will lead you through how to develop out a hybrid strategy and the bedrock. The baseline for my hybrid strategy is begin pre filming your talks ahead of time, pre film talks, and then post them to YouTube. And then from there, as you maybe clip up a few of those using a service link down below like Opus.Pro to give you AI generated shorts, reels and TikToks 00;08;42;07 - 00;09;03;08 Nick Clason You can sprinkle those in throughout your week. And then the last piece of it is you can then add in and then use an element of fun into your social media and you can use your students to do that. And so perhaps an element of your creative staggered programing is creating a space for your students. Come together and get on video and make content with you. 00;09;03;08 - 00;09;29;31 Nick Clason And you might be thinking like, Wait a minute, do they want to do that? And the answer to those yes, Generation Z and Generation Alpha, they live in a a publisher type of generation with a publisher type of mindset. And most of us have been raised in an industrial age where we create content and or we create an environment that we then sit down and we produce it and or deliver it to people. 00;09;29;31 - 00;09;52;08 Nick Clason And then we assume that they want to just sit and consume it. And the tables are turned in that day and age. And so the advantage is, while digital is the language of teenagers, you can include them in your strategy. Another hack I have for you is that you can make your small groups like more age and more gender graded. 00;09;52;08 - 00;10;14;09 Nick Clason And so if you don't have the bandwidth yet to split apart your big middle school and high school group, when you break them down into small groups, whether that be on a different night of the week or even the same night that they're all together. When you do that, you then give them that space. And so maybe you teach to a large room and you do have to sort of hit the middle somewhere between that sixth grade and that 12th grader. 00;10;14;14 - 00;10;52;16 Nick Clason But when they break down into their small groups, they're more age appropriate and they're more age and grade and gender graded. And then finally, an idea could be simply to just lean in to the age discrepancy. You know, there's an age discrepancy. You know, it may not be ideal and or it may not be everyone's preference, but if you lean into it and if you let the middle schoolers have the high schoolers have a little bit more fun, and then if you lean into the high schoolers and allow them to see that they have an opportunity to step up and be leaders to these middle school students, it can be a win win for you 00;10;52;16 - 00;11;15;30 Nick Clason and for your youth ministry, which is why I have linked right here on the screen youth group Growth. How do we reach Generation Alpha and Generation Z in this new world that we find our selves in? So go ahead. Take a look at that video. And don't forget that we trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. 00;11;15;42 - 00;11;19;04 Nick Clason So as always, stay hybrid. When to split high school and middle school students, When to split high school and middle school ministries, Junior High Youth Ministry, High School Youth Ministry, Hybrid Ministry, Nick Clason, Youth Pastor Podcast, Rethinking Youth Ministry, How to Grow your Youth Ministry, Student Ministry Podcast, Church Youth Group, Youth Group, Student Ministry โšก [FREE] Hybrid Reach More Students Strategy Guideโšก

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๐Ÿฟ๏ธ Middle School and High School Students
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups
01:08 3 Factors to Consider Before Splitting Middle and High School
03:54 The Pros to Making the Split
05:23 The Cons of Making the Split
06:59 Four Creative Hacks to Reimagining the Split

TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;01;28
Nick Clason
Youth pastors.

00;00;01;28 - 00;00;28;59
Nick Clason
Have you ever had a high school student say to you, โ€œI don't want to come to youth group with that middle schooler!โ€ Give us a like if you know, a high school student who has done that and maybe subscribe if you've actually never heard that. And then the rest of us who have liked the video because we've had high school students do that will either know that you're lying or we're going to be super jealous because you and me all know that in the back of our heads, right?

00;00;29;00 - 00;00;56;35
Nick Clason
Like we may or may not have the bandwidth or the time to split up the middle school and the high school students. And so, in today's video. We're going to explore the best, most premium and optimal time and way to split up your middle school and your high school students. Weโ€™ll talk about the three factors to consider. We will ask two clarifying questions in each of the sections.

00;00;56;40 - 00;01;20;09
Nick Clason
The top two pros, the top two cons, and finally, some creative hacks to get around making the big switch. If you know you're not ready for or don't have the time for it, factor number one is your size. Like you have to consider how big is your group? What is your average group's critical mass. Thatโ€™s question number one?

00;01;20;12 - 00;01;49;42
Nick Clason
Then number two in the sized question is what momentum will be lost by splitting up your students? The other factor you have to consider is your bandwidth. For example, like do you have the bandwidth to split middle school and high school? When I was working at church early on in my ministry, I determined that we had a big enough critical mass and that we could withstand this switch.

00;01;49;47 - 00;02;06;55
Nick Clason
But then we had to switch and I had to add to my calendar and my schedule another night to meet. And I ended up deciding to make that decision. In that season of life. It was the right move and it was the right call. So we did middle school on Wednesday night and we did high school on Sunday night.

00;02;06;56 - 00;02;30;02
Nick Clason
Prior to that, we did both of them together on Wednesday night. So Sunday night was a new addition. And looking back, I don't know actually, cause I only ended up running it for a year prior to then me moving on to a different church. I don't know if it was the right decision. You have to measure and know what your bandwidth is and if you have the bandwidth to split.

00;02;30;02 - 00;02;53;35
Nick Clason
And I would recommend right here the top of this video is a video where we talked about time management and go through that. And that little exercise might actually help give you some clarification on do you truly have the bandwidth. Also, the second question under bandwidth is do you potentially have a volunteer to help you own that other piece, the other split piece as you navigate?

00;02;53;35 - 00;03;19;25
Nick Clason
And then the third factor, of course, is space. Does your space in your church, does it accommodate it? And the second question is what constraints is this going to put on your space? So, for example, I worked at a church that didn't have a lot of space, even though it was a big church, big a big multi-site church in in Chicago area.

00;03;19;29 - 00;03;45;36
Nick Clason
But other ministries had other nights of the week that they had things going on, like our groups ministry met and our junior home ministry met and are like grief share. I can't remember all the different ones, but there's always a different ministry on a different night of the week. And so our decision to either have junior high and high school together or split up was going to either demand two nights a week for our space or just one.

00;03;45;36 - 00;04;10;57
Nick Clason
And then that that dictated how and when the other ministries in your space met. So a couple of pros for splitting up middle school and high school. Again, if if your size, if your bandwidth and if your space will all kind of accommodate it and if all those factors that you asked this question swirl around are working together, pro number one, of course, is like developmentally

00;04;11;51 - 00;04;28;39
Nick Clason
splitting middle school and high school seems to be appropriate. I mean, you just think about it. I think of that sixth grade boy in your group and then think of that 12th grade girl, like developmentally speaking. They're just in two different spots and this is no shade thrown on that sixth grade boy or that 12th grade girl.

00;04;28;44 - 00;05;13;44
Nick Clason
But, you know, they each need different things, their need. They need to be challenged in a different way. And so splitting them up will help you as a youth pastor, be able to navigate that well, to be able to really, truly give and provide for each of those people individually what they need and what they're looking for. Pro Number two is that probably the high school students preference, it may not be the middle school students preference on the top, but underneath that it may actually be the best thing for a middle school student to give them their own space, to just simply be a middle schooler and not have high schoolers looking over frustratedly

00;05;13;45 - 00;05;37;36
Nick Clason
or condemningly or even just being annoyed. And the high school students may want their own space to kind of lean into and be uniquely high school students. But the cons, of course, are it is more taxing on you as the individual or on you in your time or on you and your space. And so you may be in a context that has multiple staff and so that may be the solution.

00;05;37;36 - 00;06;03;36
Nick Clason
One of you runs one night and run one of you runs another night. But if you are your own person and if you do not have the staff to accommodate something like this, then it is going to be more taxing and another con I honestly would say is that it's not necessarily it doesn't necessarily give students a realistic view and or picture of the rest of life in the rest of the world.

00;06;03;36 - 00;06;27;24
Nick Clason
Like right now, I am a 34 year old youth pastor at a church and there is not one other 34 year old on my staff. As far as I know, I could be wrong and I might not be thinking about a certain person, but the fact of the matter is like I interact with Boomers and Xers and us another Millennials that is now my exact age and also some people that are Gen Z and so on.

00;06;27;24 - 00;06;57;17
Nick Clason
Our staff, we have an age range all the way from 20 up to like 60, 65 ish, right? Like we have a big span of age. And so sometimes like segmenting down our ministries, while they may be developmentally good or they may also be like preferences of certain ages at the high school students and middle school students, it may not be what is best for them, and it may not give them the most realistic picture of what their future life is going to be.

00;06;57;22 - 00;07;27;11
Nick Clason
Which leads me to my third idea three creative hacks to kind of get around this. If you don't have the bandwidth and if you're not quite yet ready to split middle school and high school, the first one is stagger your programing. So maybe you have your students meet all within the same time block Which I would probably recommend for like parentโ€™s sake, If they have a middle school student and a high school student, they don't have to drop off and pick up at different time.

00;07;27;11 - 00;07;54;21
Nick Clason
So if it's like 6 to 8, they drop off both students. But then inside the building, middle schoolers are in this element of your service and high schoolers are in this element of the service, and then they switch and then high school switch to this element while middle schoolers then switch to that element. That is a way for you to lean into a good volunteer, to be able to run the additional space so that you can be teaching or running the game or wherever you need to be in those moments.

00;07;54;26 - 00;08;17;15
Nick Clason
But it will also give middle school and high school students their own unique difference set up and their own unique, different space. Another creative hack answer that I have is consider the idea of going hybrid and you're like, Wait a minute, that doesn't do anything for the space. And in some ways you're 100% right, but leaves right here in mind 100% completely free e-book.

00;08;17;15 - 00;08;41;53
Nick Clason
I will lead you through how to develop out a hybrid strategy and the bedrock. The baseline for my hybrid strategy is begin pre filming your talks ahead of time, pre film talks, and then post them to YouTube. And then from there, as you maybe clip up a few of those using a service link down below like Opus.Pro to give you AI generated shorts, reels and TikToks

00;08;42;07 - 00;09;03;08
Nick Clason
You can sprinkle those in throughout your week. And then the last piece of it is you can then add in and then use an element of fun into your social media and you can use your students to do that. And so perhaps an element of your creative staggered programing is creating a space for your students. Come together and get on video and make content with you.

00;09;03;08 - 00;09;29;31
Nick Clason
And you might be thinking like, Wait a minute, do they want to do that? And the answer to those yes, Generation Z and Generation Alpha, they live in a a publisher type of generation with a publisher type of mindset. And most of us have been raised in an industrial age where we create content and or we create an environment that we then sit down and we produce it and or deliver it to people.

00;09;29;31 - 00;09;52;08
Nick Clason
And then we assume that they want to just sit and consume it. And the tables are turned in that day and age. And so the advantage is, while digital is the language of teenagers, you can include them in your strategy. Another hack I have for you is that you can make your small groups like more age and more gender graded.

00;09;52;08 - 00;10;14;09
Nick Clason
And so if you don't have the bandwidth yet to split apart your big middle school and high school group, when you break them down into small groups, whether that be on a different night of the week or even the same night that they're all together. When you do that, you then give them that space. And so maybe you teach to a large room and you do have to sort of hit the middle somewhere between that sixth grade and that 12th grader.

00;10;14;14 - 00;10;52;16
Nick Clason
But when they break down into their small groups, they're more age appropriate and they're more age and grade and gender graded. And then finally, an idea could be simply to just lean in to the age discrepancy. You know, there's an age discrepancy. You know, it may not be ideal and or it may not be everyone's preference, but if you lean into it and if you let the middle schoolers have the high schoolers have a little bit more fun, and then if you lean into the high schoolers and allow them to see that they have an opportunity to step up and be leaders to these middle school students, it can be a win win for you

00;10;52;16 - 00;11;15;30
Nick Clason
and for your youth ministry, which is why I have linked right here on the screen youth group Growth. How do we reach Generation Alpha and Generation Z in this new world that we find our selves in? So go ahead. Take a look at that video. And don't forget that we trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

00;11;15;42 - 00;11;19;04
Nick Clason
So as always, stay hybrid.

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00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups
01:08 3 Factors to Consider Before Splitting Middle and High School
03:54 The Pros to Making the Split
05:23 The Cons of Making the Split
06:59 Four Creative Hacks to Reimagining the Split

TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;01;28
Nick Clason
Youth pastors.

00;00;01;28 - 00;00;28;59
Nick Clason
Have you ever had a high school student say to you, โ€œI don't want to come to youth group with that middle schooler!โ€ Give us a like if you know, a high school student who has done that and maybe subscribe if you've actually never heard that. And then the rest of us who have liked the video because we've had high school students do that will either know that you're lying or we're going to be super jealous because you and me all know that in the back of our heads, right?

00;00;29;00 - 00;00;56;35
Nick Clason
Like we may or may not have the bandwidth or the time to split up the middle school and the high school students. And so, in today's video. We're going to explore the best, most premium and optimal time and way to split up your middle school and your high school students. Weโ€™ll talk about the three factors to consider. We will ask two clarifying questions in each of the sections.

00;00;56;40 - 00;01;20;09
Nick Clason
The top two pros, the top two cons, and finally, some creative hacks to get around making the big switch. If you know you're not ready for or don't have the time for it, factor number one is your size. Like you have to consider how big is your group? What is your average group's critical mass. Thatโ€™s question number one?

00;01;20;12 - 00;01;49;42
Nick Clason
Then number two in the sized question is what momentum will be lost by splitting up your students? The other factor you have to consider is your bandwidth. For example, like do you have the bandwidth to split middle school and high school? When I was working at church early on in my ministry, I determined that we had a big enough critical mass and that we could withstand this switch.

00;01;49;47 - 00;02;06;55
Nick Clason
But then we had to switch and I had to add to my calendar and my schedule another night to meet. And I ended up deciding to make that decision. In that season of life. It was the right move and it was the right call. So we did middle school on Wednesday night and we did high school on Sunday night.

00;02;06;56 - 00;02;30;02
Nick Clason
Prior to that, we did both of them together on Wednesday night. So Sunday night was a new addition. And looking back, I don't know actually, cause I only ended up running it for a year prior to then me moving on to a different church. I don't know if it was the right decision. You have to measure and know what your bandwidth is and if you have the bandwidth to split.

00;02;30;02 - 00;02;53;35
Nick Clason
And I would recommend right here the top of this video is a video where we talked about time management and go through that. And that little exercise might actually help give you some clarification on do you truly have the bandwidth. Also, the second question under bandwidth is do you potentially have a volunteer to help you own that other piece, the other split piece as you navigate?

00;02;53;35 - 00;03;19;25
Nick Clason
And then the third factor, of course, is space. Does your space in your church, does it accommodate it? And the second question is what constraints is this going to put on your space? So, for example, I worked at a church that didn't have a lot of space, even though it was a big church, big a big multi-site church in in Chicago area.

00;03;19;29 - 00;03;45;36
Nick Clason
But other ministries had other nights of the week that they had things going on, like our groups ministry met and our junior home ministry met and are like grief share. I can't remember all the different ones, but there's always a different ministry on a different night of the week. And so our decision to either have junior high and high school together or split up was going to either demand two nights a week for our space or just one.

00;03;45;36 - 00;04;10;57
Nick Clason
And then that that dictated how and when the other ministries in your space met. So a couple of pros for splitting up middle school and high school. Again, if if your size, if your bandwidth and if your space will all kind of accommodate it and if all those factors that you asked this question swirl around are working together, pro number one, of course, is like developmentally

00;04;11;51 - 00;04;28;39
Nick Clason
splitting middle school and high school seems to be appropriate. I mean, you just think about it. I think of that sixth grade boy in your group and then think of that 12th grade girl, like developmentally speaking. They're just in two different spots and this is no shade thrown on that sixth grade boy or that 12th grade girl.

00;04;28;44 - 00;05;13;44
Nick Clason
But, you know, they each need different things, their need. They need to be challenged in a different way. And so splitting them up will help you as a youth pastor, be able to navigate that well, to be able to really, truly give and provide for each of those people individually what they need and what they're looking for. Pro Number two is that probably the high school students preference, it may not be the middle school students preference on the top, but underneath that it may actually be the best thing for a middle school student to give them their own space, to just simply be a middle schooler and not have high schoolers looking over frustratedly

00;05;13;45 - 00;05;37;36
Nick Clason
or condemningly or even just being annoyed. And the high school students may want their own space to kind of lean into and be uniquely high school students. But the cons, of course, are it is more taxing on you as the individual or on you in your time or on you and your space. And so you may be in a context that has multiple staff and so that may be the solution.

00;05;37;36 - 00;06;03;36
Nick Clason
One of you runs one night and run one of you runs another night. But if you are your own person and if you do not have the staff to accommodate something like this, then it is going to be more taxing and another con I honestly would say is that it's not necessarily it doesn't necessarily give students a realistic view and or picture of the rest of life in the rest of the world.

00;06;03;36 - 00;06;27;24
Nick Clason
Like right now, I am a 34 year old youth pastor at a church and there is not one other 34 year old on my staff. As far as I know, I could be wrong and I might not be thinking about a certain person, but the fact of the matter is like I interact with Boomers and Xers and us another Millennials that is now my exact age and also some people that are Gen Z and so on.

00;06;27;24 - 00;06;57;17
Nick Clason
Our staff, we have an age range all the way from 20 up to like 60, 65 ish, right? Like we have a big span of age. And so sometimes like segmenting down our ministries, while they may be developmentally good or they may also be like preferences of certain ages at the high school students and middle school students, it may not be what is best for them, and it may not give them the most realistic picture of what their future life is going to be.

00;06;57;22 - 00;07;27;11
Nick Clason
Which leads me to my third idea three creative hacks to kind of get around this. If you don't have the bandwidth and if you're not quite yet ready to split middle school and high school, the first one is stagger your programing. So maybe you have your students meet all within the same time block Which I would probably recommend for like parentโ€™s sake, If they have a middle school student and a high school student, they don't have to drop off and pick up at different time.

00;07;27;11 - 00;07;54;21
Nick Clason
So if it's like 6 to 8, they drop off both students. But then inside the building, middle schoolers are in this element of your service and high schoolers are in this element of the service, and then they switch and then high school switch to this element while middle schoolers then switch to that element. That is a way for you to lean into a good volunteer, to be able to run the additional space so that you can be teaching or running the game or wherever you need to be in those moments.

00;07;54;26 - 00;08;17;15
Nick Clason
But it will also give middle school and high school students their own unique difference set up and their own unique, different space. Another creative hack answer that I have is consider the idea of going hybrid and you're like, Wait a minute, that doesn't do anything for the space. And in some ways you're 100% right, but leaves right here in mind 100% completely free e-book.

00;08;17;15 - 00;08;41;53
Nick Clason
I will lead you through how to develop out a hybrid strategy and the bedrock. The baseline for my hybrid strategy is begin pre filming your talks ahead of time, pre film talks, and then post them to YouTube. And then from there, as you maybe clip up a few of those using a service link down below like Opus.Pro to give you AI generated shorts, reels and TikToks

00;08;42;07 - 00;09;03;08
Nick Clason
You can sprinkle those in throughout your week. And then the last piece of it is you can then add in and then use an element of fun into your social media and you can use your students to do that. And so perhaps an element of your creative staggered programing is creating a space for your students. Come together and get on video and make content with you.

00;09;03;08 - 00;09;29;31
Nick Clason
And you might be thinking like, Wait a minute, do they want to do that? And the answer to those yes, Generation Z and Generation Alpha, they live in a a publisher type of generation with a publisher type of mindset. And most of us have been raised in an industrial age where we create content and or we create an environment that we then sit down and we produce it and or deliver it to people.

00;09;29;31 - 00;09;52;08
Nick Clason
And then we assume that they want to just sit and consume it. And the tables are turned in that day and age. And so the advantage is, while digital is the language of teenagers, you can include them in your strategy. Another hack I have for you is that you can make your small groups like more age and more gender graded.

00;09;52;08 - 00;10;14;09
Nick Clason
And so if you don't have the bandwidth yet to split apart your big middle school and high school group, when you break them down into small groups, whether that be on a different night of the week or even the same night that they're all together. When you do that, you then give them that space. And so maybe you teach to a large room and you do have to sort of hit the middle somewhere between that sixth grade and that 12th grader.

00;10;14;14 - 00;10;52;16
Nick Clason
But when they break down into their small groups, they're more age appropriate and they're more age and grade and gender graded. And then finally, an idea could be simply to just lean in to the age discrepancy. You know, there's an age discrepancy. You know, it may not be ideal and or it may not be everyone's preference, but if you lean into it and if you let the middle schoolers have the high schoolers have a little bit more fun, and then if you lean into the high schoolers and allow them to see that they have an opportunity to step up and be leaders to these middle school students, it can be a win win for you

00;10;52;16 - 00;11;15;30
Nick Clason
and for your youth ministry, which is why I have linked right here on the screen youth group Growth. How do we reach Generation Alpha and Generation Z in this new world that we find our selves in? So go ahead. Take a look at that video. And don't forget that we trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

00;11;15;42 - 00;11;19;04
Nick Clason
So as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 089: โš ๏ธ Sharing your Youth Room with other Church Ministries https://www.hybridministry.xyz/089 7f873feb-0e04-415c-8f03-b8a0e19f4453 Thu, 21 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Nick Clason 089 โš ๏ธ Sharing your Youth Room with other Church Ministries full Nick Clason ๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Have you ever walked into your youth room after another church ministry had an event in there? Was it clean? Probably not. ๐Ÿซง Was it put back how you preferred it to be? Probably, also, not. โš ๏ธ But you donโ€™t have the authority to tell people not to use it. How do you share a space well? 12:18 no โšก [FREE] Hybrid Reach More Students Strategy Guideโšก https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Have you ever walked into your youth room after another church ministry had an event in there? Was it clean? Probably not. ๐Ÿซง Was it put back how you preferred it to be? Probably, also, not. โš ๏ธ But you donโ€™t have the authority to tell people not to use it. How do you share a space well? ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/089 //YOUTUBE VIDEO SHARING SPACE USE PORTABLE THINGS //20 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT https://walmrt.us/3I2TZy7 //15 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT https://walmrt.us/3T7h5tS //CASTLE SQUARES https://castlesports.com/products/9-square-castlesquares //RETRACTABLE WALLS https://walmrt.us/3wkTYD9 LETTING OTHERS BORROW YOUR SPACE //CLEANUP MANUAL https://docs.google.com/document/d/0B3QjZyq-R_p5ZHZFTDhGV2IxZU0/edit?resourcekey=0-7FDtkR7NDnODgipiMQ7SLw CONSIDER GOING HYBRID! https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐Ÿ“จ Full Proof Recruiting Email EMAIL: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/recruiting-email ๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut ๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/ebook ๐Ÿ“น "Adobe Premiere Pro Presets for Animating Layers" https://share.hsforms.com/1VL1oWwWwQ82PLwsPFkPITgnumis ====================================== ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products //BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv TRY REV.COM FOR TRANSCRIBING https://rev.pxf.io/R5nDOa -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups 01:26 Three Hacks to Using Shared Church Space 07:08 3 Hacks to Letting Others Borrow Your Space 10:30 1 Idea that doesn't need space! TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:25:13 Nick Clason Youth Pastor, have you ever walked back into your youth room after a church ministry or just an outside group? Use your space? Was it clean? Probably not. If this has ever happened to you, if you're watching on YouTube, give us a like and well, was your room put back to the way that you preferred it to be? Probably also, no. 00:00:25:15 - 00:00:45:30 Nick Clason So if you've ever had to pick up after a messy group, then give me a subscribe. And if you don't have the authority to tell people how to use you youth group or not, and if you've ever been put in this position, well then turn the bell on, because we're right now in a playlist called Youth Pastor Problems. 00:00:46:00 - 00:01:09:08 Nick Clason So how do you share your space well? We're going to give you three hacks for how you as a youth pastor can share a space that is a shared space in your church. It's not your youth room. It is the church's room, and the youth just use it. We're also then going to give three hacks for when you do have a youth room that you actually have to share your space with or allow guest groups to come on in. 00:01:09:08 - 00:01:39:13 Nick Clason What are some three hacks to make sure that you don't come into a wild mess disaster the next time? And then I'm going to give you one final idea and one final hack that actually negates the need for space altogether. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 years in full time, part time and vocational ministry all together. 00:01:39:13 - 00:01:58:03 Nick Clason And early on, one of the churches I worked in, we were given a place to meet is our very own. It was disconnected from the building. It was actually attached to the maintenance garage, and so we called it the shed. What teenager doesn't want to be meeting in a place called the Shed? But eventually we outgrew that space. 00:01:58:03 - 00:02:20:10 Nick Clason And so when I started we had just a handful of kids. And then towards the middle of my tenure there, we were running a good 30, 40, 50 something kids, and they just couldn't cram into this small shed anymore. And so we actually had to start using the church's main auditorium, the main sanctuary area, and we had to set up in there every single Wednesday night and tear it down. 00:02:20:12 - 00:02:37:15 Nick Clason But the sanctuary was too big for us. And so we sort of had to pivot and adapt and we had to make this thing work for us in a way right there. Like it wasn't optimized to work for, it was optimized for a Sunday morning main church service. And now we, the youth, are coming in and were using it. 00:02:37:15 - 00:02:55:17 Nick Clason So I have three hacks for what to do. If you are borrowing or sharing a space within the church that's also being used. But other places in the church hack number one is set up as early as you can. In fact, linked right here at the very top of my video is my full proof 100% completely free time management technique. 00:02:55:23 - 00:03:10:17 Nick Clason Go ahead and take a look at that if that's something you're interested or navigating. But if you manage your time in such a way that like let's say you meet on Wednesday night, Wednesday morning, this is what I would do, I would come on in and I would set the room up first thing 9 a.m. I work for a little bit. 00:03:10:17 - 00:03:33:06 Nick Clason And then honestly, I would go home and I would take a break a gap in the middle of the day from like lunchtime until about 330 or 4:00 in the afternoon before I would come back and start to get the final touches ready for youth. But if I had set the room up early and if I did it first thing in the morning, then I was never running out of time to really get the room all the way set up. 00:03:33:06 - 00:03:57:00 Nick Clason If it was taking me longer than expected or if I was adding another element into it, like I would know that because I was working on it first thing in the morning. The second idea that I have for you is use portable things linked down below in description are some links to a few different things, like a portable Gaga pit that you can inflate and deflate. 00:03:57:00 - 00:04:17:26 Nick Clason And so if you're using a space that you can't keep it set up all week long, this is perfect for you. And if even if you are using a space that you can that you do set up and tear down, this is also a really great place number, really great thing. Number two is a portable nine square and it's not like super duper portable, but it's called Castle Squares. 00:04:17:28 - 00:04:41:20 Nick Clason And so instead of having the downspouts in every single spot, you just have the four kind of the base four that go up and then across you just have some straps. You can get it set up in under 10 minutes and torn down and even less time links to both of those things down below in description, or if you're in a podcast, catch your head to the show notes HybridMinistry.xyz/089 00:04:41:28 - 00:05:01:17 Nick Clason Another thing that I did in my church where I was borrowing the sanctuary was we had those portable retractable accordion walls. I did put a few portable wall descriptions down below. They're not exactly the same thing, but they could work in your space, just check them out. And then we bought a lot of banners and so we would use a vinyl banners. 00:05:01:17 - 00:05:25:24 Nick Clason I'm pretty sure we just used them off of like Vistaprint or something like that. But we would hang those with just like thumbtacks into those portable walls. And they had like our high school logo and our middle school logo and our student ministry logo and just some like other phrases and things that we would use. And so we would line the sanctuary because it had three seating sections, so we'd line the two aisles with those walls. 00:05:25:24 - 00:05:42:30 Nick Clason So we would we would block off the seating in the wing, so it would forced everyone into the middle. And then those walls we put some of like our logos and our graphics and stuff like that to sort of liven the space up and just make it feel a little bit more youth ministry specific hack number three. 00:05:42:30 - 00:06:10:24 Nick Clason So one was set up early. Two is use portable things. Three is be respectful full, right? Like I have this picture right here if you're watching on YouTube, a bunch of Nerf guns in a French press coffee maker. And the reason for that along with the rubber duck is that all of these things sort of encapsulate a church that I used to work at and I worked at this church and the Duck was our mascot, and a friend gave me this coffee pot. 00:06:10:24 - 00:06:32:26 Nick Clason But the reason for the Nerf guns was because every single Thursday morning when I would come back into my office after youth night had happened the night before, on Wednesday night was a handful of Nerf darts laying on my desk because one of the junior high boys groups would meet in the lobby and they would do their discussion for about seven and a half minutes. 00:06:32:29 - 00:06:57:04 Nick Clason And then as soon as the discussion was over, they would play Nerf and the facilities people would always find like anywhere from 3 to 8 Nerf darts. And so any given week I'd walk into my office and boom, on my desk. Right were just a handful of Nerf guns, be respectful, not gun darts. Be respectful, clean up as best as you can. 00:06:57:04 - 00:07:22:03 Nick Clason In my defense, I was trying to clean up, but I just wasn't seeing them and make sure that the space that you were using looks as good or better. I know it's cliche then the way that you got it when you got there. So what do you do if you are letting others borrow your space? Let's say you have your very own dedicated youth room space, but you're letting other groups, other ministries come in and borrow it. 00:07:22:04 - 00:07:50:19 Nick Clason Well, one space that once we outgrew even the sanctuary, we actually bought a small Baptist church on the other side of the road. So we had to different buildings and the church across the road. The difference in their like main auditorium, main meeting space, was that they had chairs so we could take the chairs down and get that whole space completely wide open where in our main building the the pews were bolted down to the floor. 00:07:50:27 - 00:08:11:19 Nick Clason So all that meant was that our area was incredibly desirable, so people wanted to use it. And so what I actually did was I created just like a manual. You'll see it right here linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're listening to the podcast, hit the link on the YouTube description there in the description of the podcast and go check this part out. 00:08:11:19 - 00:08:34:25 Nick Clason But it was basically a how to step by step with photos to replace and put back the room the way that it needed to be. So that it was ready for us when we got back together. You see, what I have noticed in most of my time in ministry is that people that don't set the room back up, they're not doing it because they're frustrated or they're mad at you. 00:08:34:25 - 00:08:51:24 Nick Clason They're just they're just putting it back how they think. Because people guest groups often come into your space and they immediately start making it ready for their thing or their event or their birthday party. And then when it's time to clean up, they're like, shoot, where was this basket? and Oh shoot. How did it look over there in that corner? 00:08:51:24 - 00:09:09:11 Nick Clason Because they don't remember, because they're so focused on their thing, and rightfully so. Like, I'm not I'm not angry at them for doing that. Right. But what the manual does is it tells them exactly, this is how I want it set up. This is how it was when you came in or this is how it should have been set up. 00:09:09:14 - 00:09:34:25 Nick Clason And so when there's a group, they have the exact right replica for how to put it back together. The problem is, if you've changed any of your minds since you've made that manual, it's going back the way the manual is, right, even if you've adjusted some stuff. And so if you do make changes, if you do like, you know, move the ping pong table or the foosball table, make sure you update that also in the manual that you hand off to guest groups. 00:09:34:26 - 00:09:57:28 Nick Clason Number two is have a clear cut cleaning policies and or potential rental fees. One of the tricky things about sharing space, especially in church, is that you are going to need to have custodial support for said event for said space when you give it away, especially for groups coming in on a Saturday and the custodian had already planned and had it cleaned. 00:09:57:30 - 00:10:20:21 Nick Clason And so you're going to need to figure out like who is paying for it. The custodian is the guest you're going to pay for and what is that going rate going to be? And the third and final hack for letting others use your space is be respectful and be understanding back. Right. Just like I said, they're not thinking about your space and that, but they're also probably not doing it intentionally. 00:10:20:24 - 00:10:43:05 Nick Clason If they are being disrespectful, then that may be time to have a conversation. But in most cases they're just doing their best. And so also try to have a understanding of grace and respectfulness for them. What is an idea that you might never need to use space ever again? Well, that idea, of course, is go hybrid and listen, I'm not saying to completely abandon your in-person meetings. 00:10:43:05 - 00:11:10:25 Nick Clason In fact, that would go completely against the hybrid strategy, because hybrid is melding together of your digital presence in your in-person presence and making it one in the same, but linked right here on the screen and down in the description or wherever you're getting this or hybridministry.xyz/089 is my 100% completely free strategy Guide it is my e-book on how I build out a full fledged digital strategy. 00:11:10:30 - 00:11:47:08 Nick Clason It's mostly focusing on a done for use social media strategy, but it's anchored by the long form teaching video, which takes place and is posted weekly every time we teach pre filmed messages on YouTube direct to camera, I tell you and explain how to do all of it in this e-book. And so I would love to encourage you to grab it, take a look and try at least implementing some pieces of it, because what it will do is it will allow your youth ministry to to not be tied and not be tethered to a physical location. 00:11:47:08 - 00:12:13:00 Nick Clason And it won't be tied or tethered to events and attendance. Only you will be able to start reaching students with the hope and with the message of the Gospel far beyond just your in-person events and far beyond just your in-person physical locations and gatherings. In fact, my entire strategy in this episode links right here on the screen for how to go hybrid, how to implement it, what to do is right here. 00:12:13:00 - 00:12:20:29 Nick Clason I would love to encourage you to take a look at that. Give us a subscribe. And don't forget and as always, stay hybrid. 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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Have you ever walked into your youth room after another church ministry had an event in there?
Was it clean?

Probably not.

๐Ÿซง Was it put back how you preferred it to be?
Probably, also, not.

โš ๏ธ But you donโ€™t have the authority to tell people not to use it.
How do you share a space well?
======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/089

//YOUTUBE VIDEO

SHARING SPACE
USE PORTABLE THINGS

//20 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT
https://walmrt.us/3I2TZy7

//15 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT
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//CASTLE SQUARES
https://castlesports.com/products/9-square-castlesquares

//RETRACTABLE WALLS
https://walmrt.us/3wkTYD9

LETTING OTHERS BORROW YOUR SPACE
//CLEANUP MANUAL
https://docs.google.com/document/d/0B3QjZyq-R_p5ZHZFTDhGV2IxZU0/edit?resourcekey=0-7FDtkR7NDnODgipiMQ7SLw

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups
01:26 Three Hacks to Using Shared Church Space
07:08 3 Hacks to Letting Others Borrow Your Space
10:30 1 Idea that doesn't need space!

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:25:13
Nick Clason
Youth Pastor, have you ever walked back into your youth room after a church ministry or just an outside group? Use your space? Was it clean? Probably not. If this has ever happened to you, if you're watching on YouTube, give us a like and well, was your room put back to the way that you preferred it to be? Probably also, no.

00:00:25:15 - 00:00:45:30
Nick Clason
So if you've ever had to pick up after a messy group, then give me a subscribe. And if you don't have the authority to tell people how to use you youth group or not, and if you've ever been put in this position, well then turn the bell on, because we're right now in a playlist called Youth Pastor Problems.

00:00:46:00 - 00:01:09:08
Nick Clason
So how do you share your space well? We're going to give you three hacks for how you as a youth pastor can share a space that is a shared space in your church. It's not your youth room. It is the church's room, and the youth just use it. We're also then going to give three hacks for when you do have a youth room that you actually have to share your space with or allow guest groups to come on in.

00:01:09:08 - 00:01:39:13
Nick Clason
What are some three hacks to make sure that you don't come into a wild mess disaster the next time? And then I'm going to give you one final idea and one final hack that actually negates the need for space altogether. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 years in full time, part time and vocational ministry all together.

00:01:39:13 - 00:01:58:03
Nick Clason
And early on, one of the churches I worked in, we were given a place to meet is our very own. It was disconnected from the building. It was actually attached to the maintenance garage, and so we called it the shed. What teenager doesn't want to be meeting in a place called the Shed? But eventually we outgrew that space.

00:01:58:03 - 00:02:20:10
Nick Clason
And so when I started we had just a handful of kids. And then towards the middle of my tenure there, we were running a good 30, 40, 50 something kids, and they just couldn't cram into this small shed anymore. And so we actually had to start using the church's main auditorium, the main sanctuary area, and we had to set up in there every single Wednesday night and tear it down.

00:02:20:12 - 00:02:37:15
Nick Clason
But the sanctuary was too big for us. And so we sort of had to pivot and adapt and we had to make this thing work for us in a way right there. Like it wasn't optimized to work for, it was optimized for a Sunday morning main church service. And now we, the youth, are coming in and were using it.

00:02:37:15 - 00:02:55:17
Nick Clason
So I have three hacks for what to do. If you are borrowing or sharing a space within the church that's also being used. But other places in the church hack number one is set up as early as you can. In fact, linked right here at the very top of my video is my full proof 100% completely free time management technique.

00:02:55:23 - 00:03:10:17
Nick Clason
Go ahead and take a look at that if that's something you're interested or navigating. But if you manage your time in such a way that like let's say you meet on Wednesday night, Wednesday morning, this is what I would do, I would come on in and I would set the room up first thing 9 a.m. I work for a little bit.

00:03:10:17 - 00:03:33:06
Nick Clason
And then honestly, I would go home and I would take a break a gap in the middle of the day from like lunchtime until about 330 or 4:00 in the afternoon before I would come back and start to get the final touches ready for youth. But if I had set the room up early and if I did it first thing in the morning, then I was never running out of time to really get the room all the way set up.

00:03:33:06 - 00:03:57:00
Nick Clason
If it was taking me longer than expected or if I was adding another element into it, like I would know that because I was working on it first thing in the morning. The second idea that I have for you is use portable things linked down below in description are some links to a few different things, like a portable Gaga pit that you can inflate and deflate.

00:03:57:00 - 00:04:17:26
Nick Clason
And so if you're using a space that you can't keep it set up all week long, this is perfect for you. And if even if you are using a space that you can that you do set up and tear down, this is also a really great place number, really great thing. Number two is a portable nine square and it's not like super duper portable, but it's called Castle Squares.

00:04:17:28 - 00:04:41:20
Nick Clason
And so instead of having the downspouts in every single spot, you just have the four kind of the base four that go up and then across you just have some straps. You can get it set up in under 10 minutes and torn down and even less time links to both of those things down below in description, or if you're in a podcast, catch your head to the show notes HybridMinistry.xyz/089

00:04:41:28 - 00:05:01:17
Nick Clason
Another thing that I did in my church where I was borrowing the sanctuary was we had those portable retractable accordion walls. I did put a few portable wall descriptions down below. They're not exactly the same thing, but they could work in your space, just check them out. And then we bought a lot of banners and so we would use a vinyl banners.

00:05:01:17 - 00:05:25:24
Nick Clason
I'm pretty sure we just used them off of like Vistaprint or something like that. But we would hang those with just like thumbtacks into those portable walls. And they had like our high school logo and our middle school logo and our student ministry logo and just some like other phrases and things that we would use. And so we would line the sanctuary because it had three seating sections, so we'd line the two aisles with those walls.

00:05:25:24 - 00:05:42:30
Nick Clason
So we would we would block off the seating in the wing, so it would forced everyone into the middle. And then those walls we put some of like our logos and our graphics and stuff like that to sort of liven the space up and just make it feel a little bit more youth ministry specific hack number three.

00:05:42:30 - 00:06:10:24
Nick Clason
So one was set up early. Two is use portable things. Three is be respectful full, right? Like I have this picture right here if you're watching on YouTube, a bunch of Nerf guns in a French press coffee maker. And the reason for that along with the rubber duck is that all of these things sort of encapsulate a church that I used to work at and I worked at this church and the Duck was our mascot, and a friend gave me this coffee pot.

00:06:10:24 - 00:06:32:26
Nick Clason
But the reason for the Nerf guns was because every single Thursday morning when I would come back into my office after youth night had happened the night before, on Wednesday night was a handful of Nerf darts laying on my desk because one of the junior high boys groups would meet in the lobby and they would do their discussion for about seven and a half minutes.

00:06:32:29 - 00:06:57:04
Nick Clason
And then as soon as the discussion was over, they would play Nerf and the facilities people would always find like anywhere from 3 to 8 Nerf darts. And so any given week I'd walk into my office and boom, on my desk. Right were just a handful of Nerf guns, be respectful, not gun darts. Be respectful, clean up as best as you can.

00:06:57:04 - 00:07:22:03
Nick Clason
In my defense, I was trying to clean up, but I just wasn't seeing them and make sure that the space that you were using looks as good or better. I know it's cliche then the way that you got it when you got there. So what do you do if you are letting others borrow your space? Let's say you have your very own dedicated youth room space, but you're letting other groups, other ministries come in and borrow it.

00:07:22:04 - 00:07:50:19
Nick Clason
Well, one space that once we outgrew even the sanctuary, we actually bought a small Baptist church on the other side of the road. So we had to different buildings and the church across the road. The difference in their like main auditorium, main meeting space, was that they had chairs so we could take the chairs down and get that whole space completely wide open where in our main building the the pews were bolted down to the floor.

00:07:50:27 - 00:08:11:19
Nick Clason
So all that meant was that our area was incredibly desirable, so people wanted to use it. And so what I actually did was I created just like a manual. You'll see it right here linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're listening to the podcast, hit the link on the YouTube description there in the description of the podcast and go check this part out.

00:08:11:19 - 00:08:34:25
Nick Clason
But it was basically a how to step by step with photos to replace and put back the room the way that it needed to be. So that it was ready for us when we got back together. You see, what I have noticed in most of my time in ministry is that people that don't set the room back up, they're not doing it because they're frustrated or they're mad at you.

00:08:34:25 - 00:08:51:24
Nick Clason
They're just they're just putting it back how they think. Because people guest groups often come into your space and they immediately start making it ready for their thing or their event or their birthday party. And then when it's time to clean up, they're like, shoot, where was this basket? and Oh shoot. How did it look over there in that corner?

00:08:51:24 - 00:09:09:11
Nick Clason
Because they don't remember, because they're so focused on their thing, and rightfully so. Like, I'm not I'm not angry at them for doing that. Right. But what the manual does is it tells them exactly, this is how I want it set up. This is how it was when you came in or this is how it should have been set up.

00:09:09:14 - 00:09:34:25
Nick Clason
And so when there's a group, they have the exact right replica for how to put it back together. The problem is, if you've changed any of your minds since you've made that manual, it's going back the way the manual is, right, even if you've adjusted some stuff. And so if you do make changes, if you do like, you know, move the ping pong table or the foosball table, make sure you update that also in the manual that you hand off to guest groups.

00:09:34:26 - 00:09:57:28
Nick Clason
Number two is have a clear cut cleaning policies and or potential rental fees. One of the tricky things about sharing space, especially in church, is that you are going to need to have custodial support for said event for said space when you give it away, especially for groups coming in on a Saturday and the custodian had already planned and had it cleaned.

00:09:57:30 - 00:10:20:21
Nick Clason
And so you're going to need to figure out like who is paying for it. The custodian is the guest you're going to pay for and what is that going rate going to be? And the third and final hack for letting others use your space is be respectful and be understanding back. Right. Just like I said, they're not thinking about your space and that, but they're also probably not doing it intentionally.

00:10:20:24 - 00:10:43:05
Nick Clason
If they are being disrespectful, then that may be time to have a conversation. But in most cases they're just doing their best. And so also try to have a understanding of grace and respectfulness for them. What is an idea that you might never need to use space ever again? Well, that idea, of course, is go hybrid and listen, I'm not saying to completely abandon your in-person meetings.

00:10:43:05 - 00:11:10:25
Nick Clason
In fact, that would go completely against the hybrid strategy, because hybrid is melding together of your digital presence in your in-person presence and making it one in the same, but linked right here on the screen and down in the description or wherever you're getting this or hybridministry.xyz/089 is my 100% completely free strategy Guide it is my e-book on how I build out a full fledged digital strategy.

00:11:10:30 - 00:11:47:08
Nick Clason
It's mostly focusing on a done for use social media strategy, but it's anchored by the long form teaching video, which takes place and is posted weekly every time we teach pre filmed messages on YouTube direct to camera, I tell you and explain how to do all of it in this e-book. And so I would love to encourage you to grab it, take a look and try at least implementing some pieces of it, because what it will do is it will allow your youth ministry to to not be tied and not be tethered to a physical location.

00:11:47:08 - 00:12:13:00
Nick Clason
And it won't be tied or tethered to events and attendance. Only you will be able to start reaching students with the hope and with the message of the Gospel far beyond just your in-person events and far beyond just your in-person physical locations and gatherings. In fact, my entire strategy in this episode links right here on the screen for how to go hybrid, how to implement it, what to do is right here.

00:12:13:00 - 00:12:20:29
Nick Clason
I would love to encourage you to take a look at that. Give us a subscribe. And don't forget and as always, stay hybrid.

]]> โšก [FREE] Hybrid Reach More Students Strategy Guideโšก

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======================================
DESCRIPTION
๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Have you ever walked into your youth room after another church ministry had an event in there?
Was it clean?

Probably not.

๐Ÿซง Was it put back how you preferred it to be?
Probably, also, not.

โš ๏ธ But you donโ€™t have the authority to tell people not to use it.
How do you share a space well?
======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/089

//YOUTUBE VIDEO

SHARING SPACE
USE PORTABLE THINGS

//20 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT
https://walmrt.us/3I2TZy7

//15 FOOT INFLATABLE GAGA BALL PIT
https://walmrt.us/3T7h5tS

//CASTLE SQUARES
https://castlesports.com/products/9-square-castlesquares

//RETRACTABLE WALLS
https://walmrt.us/3wkTYD9

LETTING OTHERS BORROW YOUR SPACE
//CLEANUP MANUAL
https://docs.google.com/document/d/0B3QjZyq-R_p5ZHZFTDhGV2IxZU0/edit?resourcekey=0-7FDtkR7NDnODgipiMQ7SLw

CONSIDER GOING HYBRID!

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๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
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Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz

======================================

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======================================
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Sharing Youth Rooms with Outside Groups
01:26 Three Hacks to Using Shared Church Space
07:08 3 Hacks to Letting Others Borrow Your Space
10:30 1 Idea that doesn't need space!

TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:25:13
Nick Clason
Youth Pastor, have you ever walked back into your youth room after a church ministry or just an outside group? Use your space? Was it clean? Probably not. If this has ever happened to you, if you're watching on YouTube, give us a like and well, was your room put back to the way that you preferred it to be? Probably also, no.

00:00:25:15 - 00:00:45:30
Nick Clason
So if you've ever had to pick up after a messy group, then give me a subscribe. And if you don't have the authority to tell people how to use you youth group or not, and if you've ever been put in this position, well then turn the bell on, because we're right now in a playlist called Youth Pastor Problems.

00:00:46:00 - 00:01:09:08
Nick Clason
So how do you share your space well? We're going to give you three hacks for how you as a youth pastor can share a space that is a shared space in your church. It's not your youth room. It is the church's room, and the youth just use it. We're also then going to give three hacks for when you do have a youth room that you actually have to share your space with or allow guest groups to come on in.

00:01:09:08 - 00:01:39:13
Nick Clason
What are some three hacks to make sure that you don't come into a wild mess disaster the next time? And then I'm going to give you one final idea and one final hack that actually negates the need for space altogether. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 years in full time, part time and vocational ministry all together.

00:01:39:13 - 00:01:58:03
Nick Clason
And early on, one of the churches I worked in, we were given a place to meet is our very own. It was disconnected from the building. It was actually attached to the maintenance garage, and so we called it the shed. What teenager doesn't want to be meeting in a place called the Shed? But eventually we outgrew that space.

00:01:58:03 - 00:02:20:10
Nick Clason
And so when I started we had just a handful of kids. And then towards the middle of my tenure there, we were running a good 30, 40, 50 something kids, and they just couldn't cram into this small shed anymore. And so we actually had to start using the church's main auditorium, the main sanctuary area, and we had to set up in there every single Wednesday night and tear it down.

00:02:20:12 - 00:02:37:15
Nick Clason
But the sanctuary was too big for us. And so we sort of had to pivot and adapt and we had to make this thing work for us in a way right there. Like it wasn't optimized to work for, it was optimized for a Sunday morning main church service. And now we, the youth, are coming in and were using it.

00:02:37:15 - 00:02:55:17
Nick Clason
So I have three hacks for what to do. If you are borrowing or sharing a space within the church that's also being used. But other places in the church hack number one is set up as early as you can. In fact, linked right here at the very top of my video is my full proof 100% completely free time management technique.

00:02:55:23 - 00:03:10:17
Nick Clason
Go ahead and take a look at that if that's something you're interested or navigating. But if you manage your time in such a way that like let's say you meet on Wednesday night, Wednesday morning, this is what I would do, I would come on in and I would set the room up first thing 9 a.m. I work for a little bit.

00:03:10:17 - 00:03:33:06
Nick Clason
And then honestly, I would go home and I would take a break a gap in the middle of the day from like lunchtime until about 330 or 4:00 in the afternoon before I would come back and start to get the final touches ready for youth. But if I had set the room up early and if I did it first thing in the morning, then I was never running out of time to really get the room all the way set up.

00:03:33:06 - 00:03:57:00
Nick Clason
If it was taking me longer than expected or if I was adding another element into it, like I would know that because I was working on it first thing in the morning. The second idea that I have for you is use portable things linked down below in description are some links to a few different things, like a portable Gaga pit that you can inflate and deflate.

00:03:57:00 - 00:04:17:26
Nick Clason
And so if you're using a space that you can't keep it set up all week long, this is perfect for you. And if even if you are using a space that you can that you do set up and tear down, this is also a really great place number, really great thing. Number two is a portable nine square and it's not like super duper portable, but it's called Castle Squares.

00:04:17:28 - 00:04:41:20
Nick Clason
And so instead of having the downspouts in every single spot, you just have the four kind of the base four that go up and then across you just have some straps. You can get it set up in under 10 minutes and torn down and even less time links to both of those things down below in description, or if you're in a podcast, catch your head to the show notes HybridMinistry.xyz/089

00:04:41:28 - 00:05:01:17
Nick Clason
Another thing that I did in my church where I was borrowing the sanctuary was we had those portable retractable accordion walls. I did put a few portable wall descriptions down below. They're not exactly the same thing, but they could work in your space, just check them out. And then we bought a lot of banners and so we would use a vinyl banners.

00:05:01:17 - 00:05:25:24
Nick Clason
I'm pretty sure we just used them off of like Vistaprint or something like that. But we would hang those with just like thumbtacks into those portable walls. And they had like our high school logo and our middle school logo and our student ministry logo and just some like other phrases and things that we would use. And so we would line the sanctuary because it had three seating sections, so we'd line the two aisles with those walls.

00:05:25:24 - 00:05:42:30
Nick Clason
So we would we would block off the seating in the wing, so it would forced everyone into the middle. And then those walls we put some of like our logos and our graphics and stuff like that to sort of liven the space up and just make it feel a little bit more youth ministry specific hack number three.

00:05:42:30 - 00:06:10:24
Nick Clason
So one was set up early. Two is use portable things. Three is be respectful full, right? Like I have this picture right here if you're watching on YouTube, a bunch of Nerf guns in a French press coffee maker. And the reason for that along with the rubber duck is that all of these things sort of encapsulate a church that I used to work at and I worked at this church and the Duck was our mascot, and a friend gave me this coffee pot.

00:06:10:24 - 00:06:32:26
Nick Clason
But the reason for the Nerf guns was because every single Thursday morning when I would come back into my office after youth night had happened the night before, on Wednesday night was a handful of Nerf darts laying on my desk because one of the junior high boys groups would meet in the lobby and they would do their discussion for about seven and a half minutes.

00:06:32:29 - 00:06:57:04
Nick Clason
And then as soon as the discussion was over, they would play Nerf and the facilities people would always find like anywhere from 3 to 8 Nerf darts. And so any given week I'd walk into my office and boom, on my desk. Right were just a handful of Nerf guns, be respectful, not gun darts. Be respectful, clean up as best as you can.

00:06:57:04 - 00:07:22:03
Nick Clason
In my defense, I was trying to clean up, but I just wasn't seeing them and make sure that the space that you were using looks as good or better. I know it's cliche then the way that you got it when you got there. So what do you do if you are letting others borrow your space? Let's say you have your very own dedicated youth room space, but you're letting other groups, other ministries come in and borrow it.

00:07:22:04 - 00:07:50:19
Nick Clason
Well, one space that once we outgrew even the sanctuary, we actually bought a small Baptist church on the other side of the road. So we had to different buildings and the church across the road. The difference in their like main auditorium, main meeting space, was that they had chairs so we could take the chairs down and get that whole space completely wide open where in our main building the the pews were bolted down to the floor.

00:07:50:27 - 00:08:11:19
Nick Clason
So all that meant was that our area was incredibly desirable, so people wanted to use it. And so what I actually did was I created just like a manual. You'll see it right here linked on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're listening to the podcast, hit the link on the YouTube description there in the description of the podcast and go check this part out.

00:08:11:19 - 00:08:34:25
Nick Clason
But it was basically a how to step by step with photos to replace and put back the room the way that it needed to be. So that it was ready for us when we got back together. You see, what I have noticed in most of my time in ministry is that people that don't set the room back up, they're not doing it because they're frustrated or they're mad at you.

00:08:34:25 - 00:08:51:24
Nick Clason
They're just they're just putting it back how they think. Because people guest groups often come into your space and they immediately start making it ready for their thing or their event or their birthday party. And then when it's time to clean up, they're like, shoot, where was this basket? and Oh shoot. How did it look over there in that corner?

00:08:51:24 - 00:09:09:11
Nick Clason
Because they don't remember, because they're so focused on their thing, and rightfully so. Like, I'm not I'm not angry at them for doing that. Right. But what the manual does is it tells them exactly, this is how I want it set up. This is how it was when you came in or this is how it should have been set up.

00:09:09:14 - 00:09:34:25
Nick Clason
And so when there's a group, they have the exact right replica for how to put it back together. The problem is, if you've changed any of your minds since you've made that manual, it's going back the way the manual is, right, even if you've adjusted some stuff. And so if you do make changes, if you do like, you know, move the ping pong table or the foosball table, make sure you update that also in the manual that you hand off to guest groups.

00:09:34:26 - 00:09:57:28
Nick Clason
Number two is have a clear cut cleaning policies and or potential rental fees. One of the tricky things about sharing space, especially in church, is that you are going to need to have custodial support for said event for said space when you give it away, especially for groups coming in on a Saturday and the custodian had already planned and had it cleaned.

00:09:57:30 - 00:10:20:21
Nick Clason
And so you're going to need to figure out like who is paying for it. The custodian is the guest you're going to pay for and what is that going rate going to be? And the third and final hack for letting others use your space is be respectful and be understanding back. Right. Just like I said, they're not thinking about your space and that, but they're also probably not doing it intentionally.

00:10:20:24 - 00:10:43:05
Nick Clason
If they are being disrespectful, then that may be time to have a conversation. But in most cases they're just doing their best. And so also try to have a understanding of grace and respectfulness for them. What is an idea that you might never need to use space ever again? Well, that idea, of course, is go hybrid and listen, I'm not saying to completely abandon your in-person meetings.

00:10:43:05 - 00:11:10:25
Nick Clason
In fact, that would go completely against the hybrid strategy, because hybrid is melding together of your digital presence in your in-person presence and making it one in the same, but linked right here on the screen and down in the description or wherever you're getting this or hybridministry.xyz/089 is my 100% completely free strategy Guide it is my e-book on how I build out a full fledged digital strategy.

00:11:10:30 - 00:11:47:08
Nick Clason
It's mostly focusing on a done for use social media strategy, but it's anchored by the long form teaching video, which takes place and is posted weekly every time we teach pre filmed messages on YouTube direct to camera, I tell you and explain how to do all of it in this e-book. And so I would love to encourage you to grab it, take a look and try at least implementing some pieces of it, because what it will do is it will allow your youth ministry to to not be tied and not be tethered to a physical location.

00:11:47:08 - 00:12:13:00
Nick Clason
And it won't be tied or tethered to events and attendance. Only you will be able to start reaching students with the hope and with the message of the Gospel far beyond just your in-person events and far beyond just your in-person physical locations and gatherings. In fact, my entire strategy in this episode links right here on the screen for how to go hybrid, how to implement it, what to do is right here.

00:12:13:00 - 00:12:20:29
Nick Clason
I would love to encourage you to take a look at that. Give us a subscribe. And don't forget and as always, stay hybrid.

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However, I later realized how genius it really was. What was it? I want you to stick around to the end, because this is actually one of my favorite youth group programing hacks. In addition to that, we're going to be talking about selecting the optimal youth. 00;00;20;40 - 00;00;44;48 Nick Clason Time for you, your church and your youth group is at Wednesday night. Is it Sunday Night? Is it Sunday morning? Subscribe. If it's Wednesday night for you. Like if it's Sunday night and hey, hit the bell. If you have to be at your church on Sunday morning, I think that pretty much covers all of us. I also want to rank my top five five youth group curriculum providers and resources links down below in the show notes. 00;00;44;50 - 00;01;10;49 Nick Clason And finally, I'm going to share with you my three favorite creative and potentially hybrid creative programing hacks. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show and the best time to meet. Like I remember when I started as a youth pastor, I was working at a church and I was inheriting a youth ministry that was run by volunteers. And so high school was on Tuesday night, middle school was on Wednesday night. 00;01;10;49 - 00;01;31;23 Nick Clason And I met with my pastor early on, like my very first week on the job. And he told me, he said, Hey, listen, you can do whatever you want, which is an absolute dream for a youth pastor. But as a young youth pastor, the decision was actually agonizing. Do I meet Wednesday night? Do I keep meeting Tuesday night, which is when the high school are meeting? 00;01;31;23 - 00;01;53;35 Nick Clason Do I switch to like a Sunday night vibe? And so Wednesday night, Sunday night, Sunday morning, like and I did have a Sunday morning component and so like you have to, you know, kind of navigate and know like what is going on within your church. But I had an advantage at that church because the youth ministry pretty much ran the place during midweek. 00;01;53;49 - 00;02;21;05 Nick Clason There was no midweek kids, kids ministry programing. Kids ministry did AWANA on Sunday night at like 4:15 or something. And it was kind of an odd time, which I did end up way down the road years later, jump into Sunday night. But early on I made a decision to just stick with Wednesday. So let's chat through the pros and cons of Wednesday night, Sunday night and Sunday morning, and then maybe another day of the week in there for you. 00;02;21;10 - 00;02;42;41 Nick Clason But the pro of of Wednesday night to me is probably your most traditional youth night. It's been a lot of churches, a lot of youth groups have done for years. And like down here where I live in DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth area a lot of churches do. Wednesday night and I came from Chicago. Not many churches did did Wednesday night. 00;02;42;41 - 00;03;03;20 Nick Clason And that's just kind of a cultural thing, right? But the pro to me is it's like a midweek kind of jolt of energy, a mid-week connection point from if you're typically meeting on Sunday morning, you get back together in the middle of the week. That's helpful. The con of it, however, and we talked about it here in the last video, is youth sports and extracurricular activities. 00;03;03;20 - 00;03;31;44 Nick Clason People are just getting busy. And so it makes attendance and it makes the accessibility, I believe, of a Wednesday night trickier, Sunday Night, however, the pro, I would say is probably one of the most unscheduled night for teens. Like more and more extracurricular activities, more and more sports are invading Sunday night, but it is probably the most free night that your teens have when you're looking at it from a vantage point of the majority of the availability. 00;03;31;49 - 00;03;50;55 Nick Clason The kind of it, however, is not only for you, but for you and your teens and your leaders. It makes for a long day. You were at church Sunday morning and you've got a little gap in the middle and then you have to come back. And that returning to church like that's that is always a hard hurdle to jump Iโ€™ve found. 00;03;50;59 - 00;04;09;17 Nick Clason If you have a kid who's not regularly planning on being at church, you say, hey, come back tonight, do like I got homework and all the things and families kind of have Sunday dinners. And so Sunday nights do tend to kind of make for a long day and then in a lot of our cases, we all have to be at church on Sunday morning. 00;04;09;22 - 00;04;35;00 Nick Clason Some of us do our youth service on Sunday morning. Some of us have more of like a Sunday school kind of curriculum, them that we have to adhere to or carry out. The pro of Sunday morning is it's probably the easiest to gather crowd. You're going to have your most captive audience. In fact, in a video that I talked about, the decline of church attendance, most teens are attending church because they're coming with their parents. 00;04;35;00 - 00;04;52;19 Nick Clason And so if their parents are coming to church, they're coming to church. And so Sunday morning is a great time for that to happen. The con of it is, while it may be the most captive audience, you may have the most amount of people the teenagers tend to be and feel and the environment just feels a little more tame. 00;04;52;19 - 00;05;18;29 Nick Clason It's not a youth ministry. It's more like we are a ministry of the overall church here on a Sunday morning. But when you're making these decisions, okay, because in my case, I was talking about when I started that job, I really could decide whatever I wanted. But in a lot of cases, you don't have that that luxury. And the reason might be because you're coming into a more established church, you're coming into a more established youth group. 00;05;18;29 - 00;05;43;15 Nick Clason And so the other like three questions to ask in this setting are, number one, what is expected of you? For example, are you even allowed to not have Sunday morning as an option? Like what is the expectation of your church and do you have the freedom to pull certain programs, pull certain time slots that you meet? So you need to make sure you know that before you make a decision and get yourself potentially in trouble. 00;05;43;20 - 00;06;13;35 Nick Clason Question number two is what's the rest of your church doing? For example, I went to a church and and my pastor told me that this is different. I had the the freedom to make this decision. I did not have to meet on Wednesday night and I made that decision. However, once programing started in the fall, I realized that I had made a pretty big mistake because the entire church, adults, kids, preschool, everyone came back to church on Wednesday night and the only group not there, the only group not meeting ended up being middle schoolers. 00;06;13;35 - 00;06;34;06 Nick Clason And so I had parents of middle schoolers really, really upset because they felt like their kid was not being cared for and that their kid didn't matter. In the life cycle of the church. So what is the rest of your church doing? You need to weigh that out. And if the whole church coming together for midweek, then you probably should have something there for the youth as well. 00;06;34;06 - 00;06;55;37 Nick Clason And the third question is where do you have natural momentum? Like I said, the church, I made a decision between Wednesday night and Tuesday night and all that. I ended up landing on Wednesday night, but then years later I switched over to Sunday night and I split apart middle school and I split apart high school. And when I did that, I pulled away a little bit of momentum as well. 00;06;55;38 - 00;07;20;44 Nick Clason Middle school was fine because it stayed on the night that it was on Wednesday night. But high school struggled because we tried to move on the Sunday night to become more adaptable to their schedules. However, at that church I was in, my students had become used to a certain rhythm and so moving, making that decision that made them have to adjust their schedule and adjust the way that they attached and that they connected to our church. 00;07;20;48 - 00;07;46;22 Nick Clason And here's thing none of that matters, right? In your youth ministry. If you don't have students who feel connected and don't feel like they have a piece of ownership in helping growing your youth ministry into a vibrant community, which we talked about in a previous video, how to actually teach well, course you need those two components before your teaching is really going to matter. 00;07;46;22 - 00;08;08;55 Nick Clason So let's talk about the five best curriculum resource sites, which we talked about. Students want to feel a sense of ownership and they want to feel a sense of belonging. And those two things need to exist in your youth ministry before your teaching is really going to start to matter. Wherever teaching and youth ministry, they're not going anywhere. 00;08;08;55 - 00;08;33;15 Nick Clason It's part of what we do in youth ministry. And the fact is, you work too hard to let your messages die on your hard drive after you've delivered it to a full or maybe even potentially full or half full or less full or not as full as you'd like. Room of teenagers. And so that's why I recommend linked right here down below in description, my completely free hybrid strategy. 00;08;33;15 - 00;08;53;22 Nick Clason If you're a youth pastor, you need to start posting your entire full length messages to YouTube. And I hear you're thinking like, I don't have livestreaming capabilities. I don't have livestreaming equipment. Hey, listen, most youth ministries don't. I certainly don't. But what we do is we actually do a YouTube video, sit down direct to camera. Honestly, very similar to what you're probably watching here. 00;08;53;27 - 00;09;14;23 Nick Clason You can watch it on a phone, a tablet, TV, a computer, whatever it is, but you post a full length video to YouTube, you get it down to 10 to 15 minutes in length, post it. You can do some basic after editing if you like. If not, just post it on up there. But then what that does is it also helps give you an anchor for your social media curriculum. 00;09;14;33 - 00;09;33;43 Nick Clason And so the message doesn't have to just die on a Wednesday night, on a Sunday night, on a Thursday night, whatever night of the week is your youth night, but it can live on in perpetuity. And as you teach certain series, you know how it is when it's like a students like I have a question about a particular topic and you just wrapped up a series, but they weren't there. 00;09;33;48 - 00;09;51;04 Nick Clason Now guess what? You can share them that link and be like, Hey, I actually just talked about I'd love for you to take a watch and then let's get back together and let's, let's chat about it. But that, that bedrock of that YouTube video that can that sort of establishes the framework for all your social media throughout the week. 00;09;51;04 - 00;10;12;20 Nick Clason You can post fun content and you can also post teaching clips now because you have a fully filmed wide screen based video that you can then clip up. You can use a service like Opus AI or Opus.Pro link down below. Description Check that out if thatโ€™s something you want AI will clip up your messages for you and do all the editing. 00;10;12;20 - 00;10;35;33 Nick Clason And it looks masterful. It looks it looks great. But let's talk about my five favorite curriculum resources. You may be creating your own curriculum as a youth pastor, but you don't have to. And if you don't have time for you don't want to do it, this these five resources will all save you tons of time. But they may not save you tons of money because they each have a different price tag attached to them. 00;10;35;38 - 00;10;58;37 Nick Clason So my number one favorite resource curriculum provider right now is coleader.co. That is from Download Youth Ministry and they have three sort of different tiers of billing. You can get a free version where they'll just give you access to it and you'll get 40 free credits to begin and to explore. The good thing about coleader is it plans your whole program. 00;10;58;37 - 00;11;29;41 Nick Clason It doesn't just give you a teaching script. Then they're premium version. It's about $249 a year billed annually, which breaks down to about $10 a week, again, including all of your programing and messages and songs and small group questions that gives you about 26 or so weeks of programing. So maybe this would be good if if you're doing like school year Wednesday night from like September through May, but you're not meeting in the summer and you have a lot of like gaps and Christmas parties and Thanksgivings off and stuff like that. 00;11;29;46 - 00;11;49;45 Nick Clason And maybe you do actually teach some of your own content and you sort of supplement in there, but you need something to pull from when you're in a pinch. And then premium plus is about $399 a year. Billed annually breaks down to about $8 or so per week. And premium plus also gives you access to the new sidekick Beta, which is amazing. 00;11;49;56 - 00;12;10;39 Nick Clason My number two on the list is the YM 360 sermon library is just a website which has kind of like an ala carte vibe. Where you go, you can grab different lessons three and four week series that have been taught by and taught by different youth. Pastors usually break it down to about $35 per series. So check that out. 00;12;10;39 - 00;12;38;33 Nick Clason Link down below in the description. My third favorite one is the Grow curriculum. And it is. It looks great this week. It is modern. Have full disclosure. I've never used it. Mostly price tag reasons. And in most churches that Iโ€™ve been at, we've had some other provider already. But I love the what they guys what the guys over at stuff you can use do what they stand for and so you can check that out link down below in the description. 00;12;38;33 - 00;13;08;22 Nick Clason My fourth is XP3, orange. It is probably the Cadillac of all youth ministry curriculums is also probably the most expensive on their website. Their annual license for it is anywhere from $449 a year all the way up to 2700 per year. And that's going to be based on your average youth group size. And then number five, my fifth resource is honestly just DYM library, similar to the YM360 model. 00;13;08;33 - 00;13;27;23 Nick Clason You can just go get a DYM membership. They've started at $12 a month, gold at $26.99 a month, and then gold plus at $40 a month. Gold plus gives you sidekick phone connections so you can scan the code on screen. Do live poll voting. One of my favorite hybrid ways to do youth ministry these days. But you can just hop on there. 00;13;27;28 - 00;13;49;10 Nick Clason They also gives you store credit when you have the membership. So whether you have a membership or not, you can ahead of time and you can find series there typically for anywhere from $5 to $12 per series for anywhere from like 3 to 4 week teaching series. So now here we are. What is my favorite youth group programing hack? 00;13;49;15 - 00;14;05;24 Nick Clason Well, number one link the times that you meet by purpose, right? In a lot of cases, you may not be making a decision for youth ministry. You have like one singular time to me. Is it Wednesday? Is it Sunday? Right. Like you may already have to meet Sunday morning and then you're having to figure out when else to meet. 00;14;05;28 - 00;14;24;59 Nick Clason And so instead of having to channel like supply curriculum for each and every one of those things, what we do in our current setting, I'll just tell you is Sunday morning is connect groups. And that's for the entire church adults, kids, students, everyone. And when I got here, we were like supplying curriculum for connect groups. And then on Wednesday nights we taught out of a different curriculum. 00;14;25;13 - 00;14;50;10 Nick Clason And so on Wednesday nights now we teach a message and then on Sunday morning they discuss the message. We have more students on Sunday morning and a lot of our students on Sunday morning don't attend back over here on Wednesday night. So because we pre film our curriculum, we will play a little clip, a teaser, also a reminder for those students who did actually come on Wednesday night to help the Sunday morning people be able to have the discussion. 00;14;50;15 - 00;15;11;12 Nick Clason All of our leaders are able to then watch the videos in full to be able to teach the lesson. If they didn't make it on Wednesday night and you're able to have that discussion. But also, if you did come Wednesday Night, it doesn't feel like a retread or a repeat. I can't remember who said this, but I remember someone someone saying at a a conference is something like think about all the times you meet. 00;15;11;12 - 00;15;37;35 Nick Clason If you have especially in student ministry of like main church service, you have youth Sunday morning and then you have youth Wednesday Night. And if every-- if a student comes every single week, 52 different times per year, then that is 52 times that they are taught a sermon and challenged to make an adjustment in their life and change. That is another 52 times when they come to the Youth night that they are taught a sermon and challenged 52 different times to change. 00;15;37;40 - 00;16;06;52 Nick Clason And then the third time they come to the youth other thing and they are challenged 52 different times per year and preach a sermon with some content and challenged to change their life. I don't do math on the fly very well, but that's like well over 150 times that they're supposed to do something different with their life. And just think that when you tie these to Wednesday night, Sunday morning, whatever your thing is, when you tie them together with purpose, if you have to have both meeting slots, that helps you, right? 00;16;06;52 - 00;16;33;58 Nick Clason Streamline your teaching. But that's also helpful to the students. It's not a laziness thing, right? In my opinion. It's not like you're just trying to get out of doing more. It's stewarding your budget, but it's also helping like most like disciple your students. Because then when your teaching is in alignment, everything can be in alignment. Your social media for that week, whatever you taught on Wednesday, that's the topic on your your social media, that's a topic on all of your digital hybrid resources. 00;16;34;03 - 00;16;55;42 Nick Clason Right? Number two, my favorite hack is interactive teaching. Let me just share with you right here on screen tonight. I am teaching live in the room at my church and we are in a series called How to use the Bible. And in that we have been giving them like, you know, reasons for why the Bible is reliable, reasons for why we can know that we can trust the Bible. 00;16;55;47 - 00;17;19;41 Nick Clason But then we're also like helping share them, like actual hands on tactical, like guides on how to use the Bible. But tonight I'm talking about filtering God's Word or filtering culture through the lens of God's Word in everything that we do. So what I am doing tonight is I'm starting out with a Pawn Stars video clip talking about someone who brought in a fake Babe Ruth baseball card. 00;17;19;46 - 00;17;36;13 Nick Clason And then from there, I'm telling them the hook straight away. I'm like, Are you a Biblical Christian or are you a Cultural Christian? And then we have tables in our space. And so I'm letting them talk about the difference between a Biblical Christian and a Cultural Christian. And how can you tell me give them a few minutes to chat that out. 00;17;36;18 - 00;17;59;10 Nick Clason Then I'm going to have a poll on the screen with Sidekick. We're asking them this question that says, Do we agree or disagree? Do we? Do we view everything in our life through a filter? Right? And then I'm going to give them three filters I view my life through Dad filter, Colts Fan filter, coffee filter, Shout out to coffee. 00;17;59;10 - 00;18;23;51 Nick Clason My brand new Valentine's gift, the Moca-master coffee maker first cup out of it this morning. Delicious. Ten out of ten would recommend. Then from there I am going to show them a picture of like a one of my kids watches for Christmas that they got. And talk about how scientists say that the same process that happens when you learn a new language is also what's happening when we're spending time on our screens. 00;18;23;56 - 00;18;55;17 Nick Clason And then I'm going to give them the definition of a cultural Christian versus a biblical Christian. And then I'm going to build a poll asking them what their favorite drink is like caramel macchiato, coffee, chocolate, milk, and they're going to have a chance to vote on that. All the while, all of my notes are in a thing that we call digital notes, and we use the YouVersion Live events plan that is a completely free tool that you can use, but your church can set up live events and so kids can have their phones and they can be following along with the scriptures and taking notes. 00;18;55;17 - 00;19;19;03 Nick Clason But then we're going to take them to Daniel. Chapter one. I got one more poll in there from Sidekick. I got another turn n talk. I got a map of where they go from Babylon to to from from Jerusalem to Babylon. Let's see, then I got some reasons why you oppose the food in Daniel Chapter one. I say what scholars think the age of this Daniel was, which is 11 to 17. 00;19;19;03 - 00;19;37;09 Nick Clason And so my question is, how does a teenage boy end up in a foreign land? His parents are likely killed and he's opposing the king. How do you think he did that? How does he have enough wisdom to know what to do and what to oppose? And then I'm going to bring a coffee pot on stage and talk about how what we put in the pod there is what we filter. 00;19;37;09 - 00;19;57;18 Nick Clason What spits out right, is a true form of of Christianity or it's not. But the Bible has to be the filter through which we do that. But the only way that matters if we truly have a desire to follow Jesus. Now, I don't like my whole reason for sharing All that is simply just for you to see all the different like I have sent them off to, to take questions. 00;19;57;18 - 00;20;26;54 Nick Clason And then we have digital notes for them to follow along with. And we have polls on the screen and then we have a break in between. My first part of my teaching and my last part of my teaching, which is my third hack, and that's the one the leader said. I thought that was the most stupid idea because what I would do at summer camp last year is I teach for a little bit, share a little story in opening illustration, and then I would open it to a question and then I'd send them off in their small groups right there in that space in audio auditorium style seating at camp and say, Find your small 00;20;26;54 - 00;20;44;26 Nick Clason group and your small group leader and answer these two questions and it would break for 10 minutes. And he said, I thought we were going to lose them. Like I thought like, man, that's dumb. Like, we are going to lose. These kids are going to go crazy. But what it actually did was it helped us have longer sessions and deeper teaching because we gave a break. 00;20;44;37 - 00;21;05;56 Nick Clason I wasn't just sitting and teaching for 20 straight minutes, 30 straight minutes, 40 heaven forbid, straight minutes, because I gave them a break and I let them contribute to the conversation, which is what Gen Z is looking to do. Right? And so that one of the challenges to good creative teaching, because like I said, we use tables in our space most Wednesday Nights. 00;21;06;00 - 00;21;30;02 Nick Clason It's one of the challenges to that right is navigating shared space, shared space in youth ministries, which is actually the next video it's going to be linked to right here on the screen. Itโ€™s a huge challenge and a problem facing youth pastors. How do you navigate it? What are best practices linked right here? 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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Programming Your Youth Service
00:54 The Pros and Cons of different Youth Group Meeting Days and Times
05:04 Three Questions to Ask when deciding when to meet for Youth Group
07:51 The Top 5 Youth Ministry Curriculum Resource Sites
13:44 3 Creative Youth Group Programming Hacks

TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;20;40
Nick Clason
Last summer I had a leader say I thought that was a stupid idea. However, I later realized how genius it really was. What was it? I want you to stick around to the end, because this is actually one of my favorite youth group programing hacks. In addition to that, we're going to be talking about selecting the optimal youth.

00;00;20;40 - 00;00;44;48
Nick Clason
Time for you, your church and your youth group is at Wednesday night. Is it Sunday Night? Is it Sunday morning? Subscribe. If it's Wednesday night for you. Like if it's Sunday night and hey, hit the bell. If you have to be at your church on Sunday morning, I think that pretty much covers all of us. I also want to rank my top five five youth group curriculum providers and resources links down below in the show notes.

00;00;44;50 - 00;01;10;49
Nick Clason
And finally, I'm going to share with you my three favorite creative and potentially hybrid creative programing hacks. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show and the best time to meet. Like I remember when I started as a youth pastor, I was working at a church and I was inheriting a youth ministry that was run by volunteers. And so high school was on Tuesday night, middle school was on Wednesday night.

00;01;10;49 - 00;01;31;23
Nick Clason
And I met with my pastor early on, like my very first week on the job. And he told me, he said, Hey, listen, you can do whatever you want, which is an absolute dream for a youth pastor. But as a young youth pastor, the decision was actually agonizing. Do I meet Wednesday night? Do I keep meeting Tuesday night, which is when the high school are meeting?

00;01;31;23 - 00;01;53;35
Nick Clason
Do I switch to like a Sunday night vibe? And so Wednesday night, Sunday night, Sunday morning, like and I did have a Sunday morning component and so like you have to, you know, kind of navigate and know like what is going on within your church. But I had an advantage at that church because the youth ministry pretty much ran the place during midweek.

00;01;53;49 - 00;02;21;05
Nick Clason
There was no midweek kids, kids ministry programing. Kids ministry did AWANA on Sunday night at like 4:15 or something. And it was kind of an odd time, which I did end up way down the road years later, jump into Sunday night. But early on I made a decision to just stick with Wednesday. So let's chat through the pros and cons of Wednesday night, Sunday night and Sunday morning, and then maybe another day of the week in there for you.

00;02;21;10 - 00;02;42;41
Nick Clason
But the pro of of Wednesday night to me is probably your most traditional youth night. It's been a lot of churches, a lot of youth groups have done for years. And like down here where I live in DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth area a lot of churches do. Wednesday night and I came from Chicago. Not many churches did did Wednesday night.

00;02;42;41 - 00;03;03;20
Nick Clason
And that's just kind of a cultural thing, right? But the pro to me is it's like a midweek kind of jolt of energy, a mid-week connection point from if you're typically meeting on Sunday morning, you get back together in the middle of the week. That's helpful. The con of it, however, and we talked about it here in the last video, is youth sports and extracurricular activities.

00;03;03;20 - 00;03;31;44
Nick Clason
People are just getting busy. And so it makes attendance and it makes the accessibility, I believe, of a Wednesday night trickier, Sunday Night, however, the pro, I would say is probably one of the most unscheduled night for teens. Like more and more extracurricular activities, more and more sports are invading Sunday night, but it is probably the most free night that your teens have when you're looking at it from a vantage point of the majority of the availability.

00;03;31;49 - 00;03;50;55
Nick Clason
The kind of it, however, is not only for you, but for you and your teens and your leaders. It makes for a long day. You were at church Sunday morning and you've got a little gap in the middle and then you have to come back. And that returning to church like that's that is always a hard hurdle to jump Iโ€™ve found.

00;03;50;59 - 00;04;09;17
Nick Clason
If you have a kid who's not regularly planning on being at church, you say, hey, come back tonight, do like I got homework and all the things and families kind of have Sunday dinners. And so Sunday nights do tend to kind of make for a long day and then in a lot of our cases, we all have to be at church on Sunday morning.

00;04;09;22 - 00;04;35;00
Nick Clason
Some of us do our youth service on Sunday morning. Some of us have more of like a Sunday school kind of curriculum, them that we have to adhere to or carry out. The pro of Sunday morning is it's probably the easiest to gather crowd. You're going to have your most captive audience. In fact, in a video that I talked about, the decline of church attendance, most teens are attending church because they're coming with their parents.

00;04;35;00 - 00;04;52;19
Nick Clason
And so if their parents are coming to church, they're coming to church. And so Sunday morning is a great time for that to happen. The con of it is, while it may be the most captive audience, you may have the most amount of people the teenagers tend to be and feel and the environment just feels a little more tame.

00;04;52;19 - 00;05;18;29
Nick Clason
It's not a youth ministry. It's more like we are a ministry of the overall church here on a Sunday morning. But when you're making these decisions, okay, because in my case, I was talking about when I started that job, I really could decide whatever I wanted. But in a lot of cases, you don't have that that luxury. And the reason might be because you're coming into a more established church, you're coming into a more established youth group.

00;05;18;29 - 00;05;43;15
Nick Clason
And so the other like three questions to ask in this setting are, number one, what is expected of you? For example, are you even allowed to not have Sunday morning as an option? Like what is the expectation of your church and do you have the freedom to pull certain programs, pull certain time slots that you meet? So you need to make sure you know that before you make a decision and get yourself potentially in trouble.

00;05;43;20 - 00;06;13;35
Nick Clason
Question number two is what's the rest of your church doing? For example, I went to a church and and my pastor told me that this is different. I had the the freedom to make this decision. I did not have to meet on Wednesday night and I made that decision. However, once programing started in the fall, I realized that I had made a pretty big mistake because the entire church, adults, kids, preschool, everyone came back to church on Wednesday night and the only group not there, the only group not meeting ended up being middle schoolers.

00;06;13;35 - 00;06;34;06
Nick Clason
And so I had parents of middle schoolers really, really upset because they felt like their kid was not being cared for and that their kid didn't matter. In the life cycle of the church. So what is the rest of your church doing? You need to weigh that out. And if the whole church coming together for midweek, then you probably should have something there for the youth as well.

00;06;34;06 - 00;06;55;37
Nick Clason
And the third question is where do you have natural momentum? Like I said, the church, I made a decision between Wednesday night and Tuesday night and all that. I ended up landing on Wednesday night, but then years later I switched over to Sunday night and I split apart middle school and I split apart high school. And when I did that, I pulled away a little bit of momentum as well.

00;06;55;38 - 00;07;20;44
Nick Clason
Middle school was fine because it stayed on the night that it was on Wednesday night. But high school struggled because we tried to move on the Sunday night to become more adaptable to their schedules. However, at that church I was in, my students had become used to a certain rhythm and so moving, making that decision that made them have to adjust their schedule and adjust the way that they attached and that they connected to our church.

00;07;20;48 - 00;07;46;22
Nick Clason
And here's thing none of that matters, right? In your youth ministry. If you don't have students who feel connected and don't feel like they have a piece of ownership in helping growing your youth ministry into a vibrant community, which we talked about in a previous video, how to actually teach well, course you need those two components before your teaching is really going to matter.

00;07;46;22 - 00;08;08;55
Nick Clason
So let's talk about the five best curriculum resource sites, which we talked about. Students want to feel a sense of ownership and they want to feel a sense of belonging. And those two things need to exist in your youth ministry before your teaching is really going to start to matter. Wherever teaching and youth ministry, they're not going anywhere.

00;08;08;55 - 00;08;33;15
Nick Clason
It's part of what we do in youth ministry. And the fact is, you work too hard to let your messages die on your hard drive after you've delivered it to a full or maybe even potentially full or half full or less full or not as full as you'd like. Room of teenagers. And so that's why I recommend linked right here down below in description, my completely free hybrid strategy.

00;08;33;15 - 00;08;53;22
Nick Clason
If you're a youth pastor, you need to start posting your entire full length messages to YouTube. And I hear you're thinking like, I don't have livestreaming capabilities. I don't have livestreaming equipment. Hey, listen, most youth ministries don't. I certainly don't. But what we do is we actually do a YouTube video, sit down direct to camera. Honestly, very similar to what you're probably watching here.

00;08;53;27 - 00;09;14;23
Nick Clason
You can watch it on a phone, a tablet, TV, a computer, whatever it is, but you post a full length video to YouTube, you get it down to 10 to 15 minutes in length, post it. You can do some basic after editing if you like. If not, just post it on up there. But then what that does is it also helps give you an anchor for your social media curriculum.

00;09;14;33 - 00;09;33;43
Nick Clason
And so the message doesn't have to just die on a Wednesday night, on a Sunday night, on a Thursday night, whatever night of the week is your youth night, but it can live on in perpetuity. And as you teach certain series, you know how it is when it's like a students like I have a question about a particular topic and you just wrapped up a series, but they weren't there.

00;09;33;48 - 00;09;51;04
Nick Clason
Now guess what? You can share them that link and be like, Hey, I actually just talked about I'd love for you to take a watch and then let's get back together and let's, let's chat about it. But that, that bedrock of that YouTube video that can that sort of establishes the framework for all your social media throughout the week.

00;09;51;04 - 00;10;12;20
Nick Clason
You can post fun content and you can also post teaching clips now because you have a fully filmed wide screen based video that you can then clip up. You can use a service like Opus AI or Opus.Pro link down below. Description Check that out if thatโ€™s something you want AI will clip up your messages for you and do all the editing.

00;10;12;20 - 00;10;35;33
Nick Clason
And it looks masterful. It looks it looks great. But let's talk about my five favorite curriculum resources. You may be creating your own curriculum as a youth pastor, but you don't have to. And if you don't have time for you don't want to do it, this these five resources will all save you tons of time. But they may not save you tons of money because they each have a different price tag attached to them.

00;10;35;38 - 00;10;58;37
Nick Clason
So my number one favorite resource curriculum provider right now is coleader.co. That is from Download Youth Ministry and they have three sort of different tiers of billing. You can get a free version where they'll just give you access to it and you'll get 40 free credits to begin and to explore. The good thing about coleader is it plans your whole program.

00;10;58;37 - 00;11;29;41
Nick Clason
It doesn't just give you a teaching script. Then they're premium version. It's about $249 a year billed annually, which breaks down to about $10 a week, again, including all of your programing and messages and songs and small group questions that gives you about 26 or so weeks of programing. So maybe this would be good if if you're doing like school year Wednesday night from like September through May, but you're not meeting in the summer and you have a lot of like gaps and Christmas parties and Thanksgivings off and stuff like that.

00;11;29;46 - 00;11;49;45
Nick Clason
And maybe you do actually teach some of your own content and you sort of supplement in there, but you need something to pull from when you're in a pinch. And then premium plus is about $399 a year. Billed annually breaks down to about $8 or so per week. And premium plus also gives you access to the new sidekick Beta, which is amazing.

00;11;49;56 - 00;12;10;39
Nick Clason
My number two on the list is the YM 360 sermon library is just a website which has kind of like an ala carte vibe. Where you go, you can grab different lessons three and four week series that have been taught by and taught by different youth. Pastors usually break it down to about $35 per series. So check that out.

00;12;10;39 - 00;12;38;33
Nick Clason
Link down below in the description. My third favorite one is the Grow curriculum. And it is. It looks great this week. It is modern. Have full disclosure. I've never used it. Mostly price tag reasons. And in most churches that Iโ€™ve been at, we've had some other provider already. But I love the what they guys what the guys over at stuff you can use do what they stand for and so you can check that out link down below in the description.

00;12;38;33 - 00;13;08;22
Nick Clason
My fourth is XP3, orange. It is probably the Cadillac of all youth ministry curriculums is also probably the most expensive on their website. Their annual license for it is anywhere from $449 a year all the way up to 2700 per year. And that's going to be based on your average youth group size. And then number five, my fifth resource is honestly just DYM library, similar to the YM360 model.

00;13;08;33 - 00;13;27;23
Nick Clason
You can just go get a DYM membership. They've started at $12 a month, gold at $26.99 a month, and then gold plus at $40 a month. Gold plus gives you sidekick phone connections so you can scan the code on screen. Do live poll voting. One of my favorite hybrid ways to do youth ministry these days. But you can just hop on there.

00;13;27;28 - 00;13;49;10
Nick Clason
They also gives you store credit when you have the membership. So whether you have a membership or not, you can ahead of time and you can find series there typically for anywhere from $5 to $12 per series for anywhere from like 3 to 4 week teaching series. So now here we are. What is my favorite youth group programing hack?

00;13;49;15 - 00;14;05;24
Nick Clason
Well, number one link the times that you meet by purpose, right? In a lot of cases, you may not be making a decision for youth ministry. You have like one singular time to me. Is it Wednesday? Is it Sunday? Right. Like you may already have to meet Sunday morning and then you're having to figure out when else to meet.

00;14;05;28 - 00;14;24;59
Nick Clason
And so instead of having to channel like supply curriculum for each and every one of those things, what we do in our current setting, I'll just tell you is Sunday morning is connect groups. And that's for the entire church adults, kids, students, everyone. And when I got here, we were like supplying curriculum for connect groups. And then on Wednesday nights we taught out of a different curriculum.

00;14;25;13 - 00;14;50;10
Nick Clason
And so on Wednesday nights now we teach a message and then on Sunday morning they discuss the message. We have more students on Sunday morning and a lot of our students on Sunday morning don't attend back over here on Wednesday night. So because we pre film our curriculum, we will play a little clip, a teaser, also a reminder for those students who did actually come on Wednesday night to help the Sunday morning people be able to have the discussion.

00;14;50;15 - 00;15;11;12
Nick Clason
All of our leaders are able to then watch the videos in full to be able to teach the lesson. If they didn't make it on Wednesday night and you're able to have that discussion. But also, if you did come Wednesday Night, it doesn't feel like a retread or a repeat. I can't remember who said this, but I remember someone someone saying at a a conference is something like think about all the times you meet.

00;15;11;12 - 00;15;37;35
Nick Clason
If you have especially in student ministry of like main church service, you have youth Sunday morning and then you have youth Wednesday Night. And if every-- if a student comes every single week, 52 different times per year, then that is 52 times that they are taught a sermon and challenged to make an adjustment in their life and change. That is another 52 times when they come to the Youth night that they are taught a sermon and challenged 52 different times to change.

00;15;37;40 - 00;16;06;52
Nick Clason
And then the third time they come to the youth other thing and they are challenged 52 different times per year and preach a sermon with some content and challenged to change their life. I don't do math on the fly very well, but that's like well over 150 times that they're supposed to do something different with their life. And just think that when you tie these to Wednesday night, Sunday morning, whatever your thing is, when you tie them together with purpose, if you have to have both meeting slots, that helps you, right?

00;16;06;52 - 00;16;33;58
Nick Clason
Streamline your teaching. But that's also helpful to the students. It's not a laziness thing, right? In my opinion. It's not like you're just trying to get out of doing more. It's stewarding your budget, but it's also helping like most like disciple your students. Because then when your teaching is in alignment, everything can be in alignment. Your social media for that week, whatever you taught on Wednesday, that's the topic on your your social media, that's a topic on all of your digital hybrid resources.

00;16;34;03 - 00;16;55;42
Nick Clason
Right? Number two, my favorite hack is interactive teaching. Let me just share with you right here on screen tonight. I am teaching live in the room at my church and we are in a series called How to use the Bible. And in that we have been giving them like, you know, reasons for why the Bible is reliable, reasons for why we can know that we can trust the Bible.

00;16;55;47 - 00;17;19;41
Nick Clason
But then we're also like helping share them, like actual hands on tactical, like guides on how to use the Bible. But tonight I'm talking about filtering God's Word or filtering culture through the lens of God's Word in everything that we do. So what I am doing tonight is I'm starting out with a Pawn Stars video clip talking about someone who brought in a fake Babe Ruth baseball card.

00;17;19;46 - 00;17;36;13
Nick Clason
And then from there, I'm telling them the hook straight away. I'm like, Are you a Biblical Christian or are you a Cultural Christian? And then we have tables in our space. And so I'm letting them talk about the difference between a Biblical Christian and a Cultural Christian. And how can you tell me give them a few minutes to chat that out.

00;17;36;18 - 00;17;59;10
Nick Clason
Then I'm going to have a poll on the screen with Sidekick. We're asking them this question that says, Do we agree or disagree? Do we? Do we view everything in our life through a filter? Right? And then I'm going to give them three filters I view my life through Dad filter, Colts Fan filter, coffee filter, Shout out to coffee.

00;17;59;10 - 00;18;23;51
Nick Clason
My brand new Valentine's gift, the Moca-master coffee maker first cup out of it this morning. Delicious. Ten out of ten would recommend. Then from there I am going to show them a picture of like a one of my kids watches for Christmas that they got. And talk about how scientists say that the same process that happens when you learn a new language is also what's happening when we're spending time on our screens.

00;18;23;56 - 00;18;55;17
Nick Clason
And then I'm going to give them the definition of a cultural Christian versus a biblical Christian. And then I'm going to build a poll asking them what their favorite drink is like caramel macchiato, coffee, chocolate, milk, and they're going to have a chance to vote on that. All the while, all of my notes are in a thing that we call digital notes, and we use the YouVersion Live events plan that is a completely free tool that you can use, but your church can set up live events and so kids can have their phones and they can be following along with the scriptures and taking notes.

00;18;55;17 - 00;19;19;03
Nick Clason
But then we're going to take them to Daniel. Chapter one. I got one more poll in there from Sidekick. I got another turn n talk. I got a map of where they go from Babylon to to from from Jerusalem to Babylon. Let's see, then I got some reasons why you oppose the food in Daniel Chapter one. I say what scholars think the age of this Daniel was, which is 11 to 17.

00;19;19;03 - 00;19;37;09
Nick Clason
And so my question is, how does a teenage boy end up in a foreign land? His parents are likely killed and he's opposing the king. How do you think he did that? How does he have enough wisdom to know what to do and what to oppose? And then I'm going to bring a coffee pot on stage and talk about how what we put in the pod there is what we filter.

00;19;37;09 - 00;19;57;18
Nick Clason
What spits out right, is a true form of of Christianity or it's not. But the Bible has to be the filter through which we do that. But the only way that matters if we truly have a desire to follow Jesus. Now, I don't like my whole reason for sharing All that is simply just for you to see all the different like I have sent them off to, to take questions.

00;19;57;18 - 00;20;26;54
Nick Clason
And then we have digital notes for them to follow along with. And we have polls on the screen and then we have a break in between. My first part of my teaching and my last part of my teaching, which is my third hack, and that's the one the leader said. I thought that was the most stupid idea because what I would do at summer camp last year is I teach for a little bit, share a little story in opening illustration, and then I would open it to a question and then I'd send them off in their small groups right there in that space in audio auditorium style seating at camp and say, Find your small

00;20;26;54 - 00;20;44;26
Nick Clason
group and your small group leader and answer these two questions and it would break for 10 minutes. And he said, I thought we were going to lose them. Like I thought like, man, that's dumb. Like, we are going to lose. These kids are going to go crazy. But what it actually did was it helped us have longer sessions and deeper teaching because we gave a break.

00;20;44;37 - 00;21;05;56
Nick Clason
I wasn't just sitting and teaching for 20 straight minutes, 30 straight minutes, 40 heaven forbid, straight minutes, because I gave them a break and I let them contribute to the conversation, which is what Gen Z is looking to do. Right? And so that one of the challenges to good creative teaching, because like I said, we use tables in our space most Wednesday Nights.

00;21;06;00 - 00;21;30;02
Nick Clason
It's one of the challenges to that right is navigating shared space, shared space in youth ministries, which is actually the next video it's going to be linked to right here on the screen. Itโ€™s a huge challenge and a problem facing youth pastors. How do you navigate it? What are best practices linked right here? Take a look at that, because we're here to try and make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

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Nick Clason
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00 Programming Your Youth Service
00:54 The Pros and Cons of different Youth Group Meeting Days and Times
05:04 Three Questions to Ask when deciding when to meet for Youth Group
07:51 The Top 5 Youth Ministry Curriculum Resource Sites
13:44 3 Creative Youth Group Programming Hacks

TRANSCRIPT
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;20;40
Nick Clason
Last summer I had a leader say I thought that was a stupid idea. However, I later realized how genius it really was. What was it? I want you to stick around to the end, because this is actually one of my favorite youth group programing hacks. In addition to that, we're going to be talking about selecting the optimal youth.

00;00;20;40 - 00;00;44;48
Nick Clason
Time for you, your church and your youth group is at Wednesday night. Is it Sunday Night? Is it Sunday morning? Subscribe. If it's Wednesday night for you. Like if it's Sunday night and hey, hit the bell. If you have to be at your church on Sunday morning, I think that pretty much covers all of us. I also want to rank my top five five youth group curriculum providers and resources links down below in the show notes.

00;00;44;50 - 00;01;10;49
Nick Clason
And finally, I'm going to share with you my three favorite creative and potentially hybrid creative programing hacks. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show and the best time to meet. Like I remember when I started as a youth pastor, I was working at a church and I was inheriting a youth ministry that was run by volunteers. And so high school was on Tuesday night, middle school was on Wednesday night.

00;01;10;49 - 00;01;31;23
Nick Clason
And I met with my pastor early on, like my very first week on the job. And he told me, he said, Hey, listen, you can do whatever you want, which is an absolute dream for a youth pastor. But as a young youth pastor, the decision was actually agonizing. Do I meet Wednesday night? Do I keep meeting Tuesday night, which is when the high school are meeting?

00;01;31;23 - 00;01;53;35
Nick Clason
Do I switch to like a Sunday night vibe? And so Wednesday night, Sunday night, Sunday morning, like and I did have a Sunday morning component and so like you have to, you know, kind of navigate and know like what is going on within your church. But I had an advantage at that church because the youth ministry pretty much ran the place during midweek.

00;01;53;49 - 00;02;21;05
Nick Clason
There was no midweek kids, kids ministry programing. Kids ministry did AWANA on Sunday night at like 4:15 or something. And it was kind of an odd time, which I did end up way down the road years later, jump into Sunday night. But early on I made a decision to just stick with Wednesday. So let's chat through the pros and cons of Wednesday night, Sunday night and Sunday morning, and then maybe another day of the week in there for you.

00;02;21;10 - 00;02;42;41
Nick Clason
But the pro of of Wednesday night to me is probably your most traditional youth night. It's been a lot of churches, a lot of youth groups have done for years. And like down here where I live in DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth area a lot of churches do. Wednesday night and I came from Chicago. Not many churches did did Wednesday night.

00;02;42;41 - 00;03;03;20
Nick Clason
And that's just kind of a cultural thing, right? But the pro to me is it's like a midweek kind of jolt of energy, a mid-week connection point from if you're typically meeting on Sunday morning, you get back together in the middle of the week. That's helpful. The con of it, however, and we talked about it here in the last video, is youth sports and extracurricular activities.

00;03;03;20 - 00;03;31;44
Nick Clason
People are just getting busy. And so it makes attendance and it makes the accessibility, I believe, of a Wednesday night trickier, Sunday Night, however, the pro, I would say is probably one of the most unscheduled night for teens. Like more and more extracurricular activities, more and more sports are invading Sunday night, but it is probably the most free night that your teens have when you're looking at it from a vantage point of the majority of the availability.

00;03;31;49 - 00;03;50;55
Nick Clason
The kind of it, however, is not only for you, but for you and your teens and your leaders. It makes for a long day. You were at church Sunday morning and you've got a little gap in the middle and then you have to come back. And that returning to church like that's that is always a hard hurdle to jump Iโ€™ve found.

00;03;50;59 - 00;04;09;17
Nick Clason
If you have a kid who's not regularly planning on being at church, you say, hey, come back tonight, do like I got homework and all the things and families kind of have Sunday dinners. And so Sunday nights do tend to kind of make for a long day and then in a lot of our cases, we all have to be at church on Sunday morning.

00;04;09;22 - 00;04;35;00
Nick Clason
Some of us do our youth service on Sunday morning. Some of us have more of like a Sunday school kind of curriculum, them that we have to adhere to or carry out. The pro of Sunday morning is it's probably the easiest to gather crowd. You're going to have your most captive audience. In fact, in a video that I talked about, the decline of church attendance, most teens are attending church because they're coming with their parents.

00;04;35;00 - 00;04;52;19
Nick Clason
And so if their parents are coming to church, they're coming to church. And so Sunday morning is a great time for that to happen. The con of it is, while it may be the most captive audience, you may have the most amount of people the teenagers tend to be and feel and the environment just feels a little more tame.

00;04;52;19 - 00;05;18;29
Nick Clason
It's not a youth ministry. It's more like we are a ministry of the overall church here on a Sunday morning. But when you're making these decisions, okay, because in my case, I was talking about when I started that job, I really could decide whatever I wanted. But in a lot of cases, you don't have that that luxury. And the reason might be because you're coming into a more established church, you're coming into a more established youth group.

00;05;18;29 - 00;05;43;15
Nick Clason
And so the other like three questions to ask in this setting are, number one, what is expected of you? For example, are you even allowed to not have Sunday morning as an option? Like what is the expectation of your church and do you have the freedom to pull certain programs, pull certain time slots that you meet? So you need to make sure you know that before you make a decision and get yourself potentially in trouble.

00;05;43;20 - 00;06;13;35
Nick Clason
Question number two is what's the rest of your church doing? For example, I went to a church and and my pastor told me that this is different. I had the the freedom to make this decision. I did not have to meet on Wednesday night and I made that decision. However, once programing started in the fall, I realized that I had made a pretty big mistake because the entire church, adults, kids, preschool, everyone came back to church on Wednesday night and the only group not there, the only group not meeting ended up being middle schoolers.

00;06;13;35 - 00;06;34;06
Nick Clason
And so I had parents of middle schoolers really, really upset because they felt like their kid was not being cared for and that their kid didn't matter. In the life cycle of the church. So what is the rest of your church doing? You need to weigh that out. And if the whole church coming together for midweek, then you probably should have something there for the youth as well.

00;06;34;06 - 00;06;55;37
Nick Clason
And the third question is where do you have natural momentum? Like I said, the church, I made a decision between Wednesday night and Tuesday night and all that. I ended up landing on Wednesday night, but then years later I switched over to Sunday night and I split apart middle school and I split apart high school. And when I did that, I pulled away a little bit of momentum as well.

00;06;55;38 - 00;07;20;44
Nick Clason
Middle school was fine because it stayed on the night that it was on Wednesday night. But high school struggled because we tried to move on the Sunday night to become more adaptable to their schedules. However, at that church I was in, my students had become used to a certain rhythm and so moving, making that decision that made them have to adjust their schedule and adjust the way that they attached and that they connected to our church.

00;07;20;48 - 00;07;46;22
Nick Clason
And here's thing none of that matters, right? In your youth ministry. If you don't have students who feel connected and don't feel like they have a piece of ownership in helping growing your youth ministry into a vibrant community, which we talked about in a previous video, how to actually teach well, course you need those two components before your teaching is really going to matter.

00;07;46;22 - 00;08;08;55
Nick Clason
So let's talk about the five best curriculum resource sites, which we talked about. Students want to feel a sense of ownership and they want to feel a sense of belonging. And those two things need to exist in your youth ministry before your teaching is really going to start to matter. Wherever teaching and youth ministry, they're not going anywhere.

00;08;08;55 - 00;08;33;15
Nick Clason
It's part of what we do in youth ministry. And the fact is, you work too hard to let your messages die on your hard drive after you've delivered it to a full or maybe even potentially full or half full or less full or not as full as you'd like. Room of teenagers. And so that's why I recommend linked right here down below in description, my completely free hybrid strategy.

00;08;33;15 - 00;08;53;22
Nick Clason
If you're a youth pastor, you need to start posting your entire full length messages to YouTube. And I hear you're thinking like, I don't have livestreaming capabilities. I don't have livestreaming equipment. Hey, listen, most youth ministries don't. I certainly don't. But what we do is we actually do a YouTube video, sit down direct to camera. Honestly, very similar to what you're probably watching here.

00;08;53;27 - 00;09;14;23
Nick Clason
You can watch it on a phone, a tablet, TV, a computer, whatever it is, but you post a full length video to YouTube, you get it down to 10 to 15 minutes in length, post it. You can do some basic after editing if you like. If not, just post it on up there. But then what that does is it also helps give you an anchor for your social media curriculum.

00;09;14;33 - 00;09;33;43
Nick Clason
And so the message doesn't have to just die on a Wednesday night, on a Sunday night, on a Thursday night, whatever night of the week is your youth night, but it can live on in perpetuity. And as you teach certain series, you know how it is when it's like a students like I have a question about a particular topic and you just wrapped up a series, but they weren't there.

00;09;33;48 - 00;09;51;04
Nick Clason
Now guess what? You can share them that link and be like, Hey, I actually just talked about I'd love for you to take a watch and then let's get back together and let's, let's chat about it. But that, that bedrock of that YouTube video that can that sort of establishes the framework for all your social media throughout the week.

00;09;51;04 - 00;10;12;20
Nick Clason
You can post fun content and you can also post teaching clips now because you have a fully filmed wide screen based video that you can then clip up. You can use a service like Opus AI or Opus.Pro link down below. Description Check that out if thatโ€™s something you want AI will clip up your messages for you and do all the editing.

00;10;12;20 - 00;10;35;33
Nick Clason
And it looks masterful. It looks it looks great. But let's talk about my five favorite curriculum resources. You may be creating your own curriculum as a youth pastor, but you don't have to. And if you don't have time for you don't want to do it, this these five resources will all save you tons of time. But they may not save you tons of money because they each have a different price tag attached to them.

00;10;35;38 - 00;10;58;37
Nick Clason
So my number one favorite resource curriculum provider right now is coleader.co. That is from Download Youth Ministry and they have three sort of different tiers of billing. You can get a free version where they'll just give you access to it and you'll get 40 free credits to begin and to explore. The good thing about coleader is it plans your whole program.

00;10;58;37 - 00;11;29;41
Nick Clason
It doesn't just give you a teaching script. Then they're premium version. It's about $249 a year billed annually, which breaks down to about $10 a week, again, including all of your programing and messages and songs and small group questions that gives you about 26 or so weeks of programing. So maybe this would be good if if you're doing like school year Wednesday night from like September through May, but you're not meeting in the summer and you have a lot of like gaps and Christmas parties and Thanksgivings off and stuff like that.

00;11;29;46 - 00;11;49;45
Nick Clason
And maybe you do actually teach some of your own content and you sort of supplement in there, but you need something to pull from when you're in a pinch. And then premium plus is about $399 a year. Billed annually breaks down to about $8 or so per week. And premium plus also gives you access to the new sidekick Beta, which is amazing.

00;11;49;56 - 00;12;10;39
Nick Clason
My number two on the list is the YM 360 sermon library is just a website which has kind of like an ala carte vibe. Where you go, you can grab different lessons three and four week series that have been taught by and taught by different youth. Pastors usually break it down to about $35 per series. So check that out.

00;12;10;39 - 00;12;38;33
Nick Clason
Link down below in the description. My third favorite one is the Grow curriculum. And it is. It looks great this week. It is modern. Have full disclosure. I've never used it. Mostly price tag reasons. And in most churches that Iโ€™ve been at, we've had some other provider already. But I love the what they guys what the guys over at stuff you can use do what they stand for and so you can check that out link down below in the description.

00;12;38;33 - 00;13;08;22
Nick Clason
My fourth is XP3, orange. It is probably the Cadillac of all youth ministry curriculums is also probably the most expensive on their website. Their annual license for it is anywhere from $449 a year all the way up to 2700 per year. And that's going to be based on your average youth group size. And then number five, my fifth resource is honestly just DYM library, similar to the YM360 model.

00;13;08;33 - 00;13;27;23
Nick Clason
You can just go get a DYM membership. They've started at $12 a month, gold at $26.99 a month, and then gold plus at $40 a month. Gold plus gives you sidekick phone connections so you can scan the code on screen. Do live poll voting. One of my favorite hybrid ways to do youth ministry these days. But you can just hop on there.

00;13;27;28 - 00;13;49;10
Nick Clason
They also gives you store credit when you have the membership. So whether you have a membership or not, you can ahead of time and you can find series there typically for anywhere from $5 to $12 per series for anywhere from like 3 to 4 week teaching series. So now here we are. What is my favorite youth group programing hack?

00;13;49;15 - 00;14;05;24
Nick Clason
Well, number one link the times that you meet by purpose, right? In a lot of cases, you may not be making a decision for youth ministry. You have like one singular time to me. Is it Wednesday? Is it Sunday? Right. Like you may already have to meet Sunday morning and then you're having to figure out when else to meet.

00;14;05;28 - 00;14;24;59
Nick Clason
And so instead of having to channel like supply curriculum for each and every one of those things, what we do in our current setting, I'll just tell you is Sunday morning is connect groups. And that's for the entire church adults, kids, students, everyone. And when I got here, we were like supplying curriculum for connect groups. And then on Wednesday nights we taught out of a different curriculum.

00;14;25;13 - 00;14;50;10
Nick Clason
And so on Wednesday nights now we teach a message and then on Sunday morning they discuss the message. We have more students on Sunday morning and a lot of our students on Sunday morning don't attend back over here on Wednesday night. So because we pre film our curriculum, we will play a little clip, a teaser, also a reminder for those students who did actually come on Wednesday night to help the Sunday morning people be able to have the discussion.

00;14;50;15 - 00;15;11;12
Nick Clason
All of our leaders are able to then watch the videos in full to be able to teach the lesson. If they didn't make it on Wednesday night and you're able to have that discussion. But also, if you did come Wednesday Night, it doesn't feel like a retread or a repeat. I can't remember who said this, but I remember someone someone saying at a a conference is something like think about all the times you meet.

00;15;11;12 - 00;15;37;35
Nick Clason
If you have especially in student ministry of like main church service, you have youth Sunday morning and then you have youth Wednesday Night. And if every-- if a student comes every single week, 52 different times per year, then that is 52 times that they are taught a sermon and challenged to make an adjustment in their life and change. That is another 52 times when they come to the Youth night that they are taught a sermon and challenged 52 different times to change.

00;15;37;40 - 00;16;06;52
Nick Clason
And then the third time they come to the youth other thing and they are challenged 52 different times per year and preach a sermon with some content and challenged to change their life. I don't do math on the fly very well, but that's like well over 150 times that they're supposed to do something different with their life. And just think that when you tie these to Wednesday night, Sunday morning, whatever your thing is, when you tie them together with purpose, if you have to have both meeting slots, that helps you, right?

00;16;06;52 - 00;16;33;58
Nick Clason
Streamline your teaching. But that's also helpful to the students. It's not a laziness thing, right? In my opinion. It's not like you're just trying to get out of doing more. It's stewarding your budget, but it's also helping like most like disciple your students. Because then when your teaching is in alignment, everything can be in alignment. Your social media for that week, whatever you taught on Wednesday, that's the topic on your your social media, that's a topic on all of your digital hybrid resources.

00;16;34;03 - 00;16;55;42
Nick Clason
Right? Number two, my favorite hack is interactive teaching. Let me just share with you right here on screen tonight. I am teaching live in the room at my church and we are in a series called How to use the Bible. And in that we have been giving them like, you know, reasons for why the Bible is reliable, reasons for why we can know that we can trust the Bible.

00;16;55;47 - 00;17;19;41
Nick Clason
But then we're also like helping share them, like actual hands on tactical, like guides on how to use the Bible. But tonight I'm talking about filtering God's Word or filtering culture through the lens of God's Word in everything that we do. So what I am doing tonight is I'm starting out with a Pawn Stars video clip talking about someone who brought in a fake Babe Ruth baseball card.

00;17;19;46 - 00;17;36;13
Nick Clason
And then from there, I'm telling them the hook straight away. I'm like, Are you a Biblical Christian or are you a Cultural Christian? And then we have tables in our space. And so I'm letting them talk about the difference between a Biblical Christian and a Cultural Christian. And how can you tell me give them a few minutes to chat that out.

00;17;36;18 - 00;17;59;10
Nick Clason
Then I'm going to have a poll on the screen with Sidekick. We're asking them this question that says, Do we agree or disagree? Do we? Do we view everything in our life through a filter? Right? And then I'm going to give them three filters I view my life through Dad filter, Colts Fan filter, coffee filter, Shout out to coffee.

00;17;59;10 - 00;18;23;51
Nick Clason
My brand new Valentine's gift, the Moca-master coffee maker first cup out of it this morning. Delicious. Ten out of ten would recommend. Then from there I am going to show them a picture of like a one of my kids watches for Christmas that they got. And talk about how scientists say that the same process that happens when you learn a new language is also what's happening when we're spending time on our screens.

00;18;23;56 - 00;18;55;17
Nick Clason
And then I'm going to give them the definition of a cultural Christian versus a biblical Christian. And then I'm going to build a poll asking them what their favorite drink is like caramel macchiato, coffee, chocolate, milk, and they're going to have a chance to vote on that. All the while, all of my notes are in a thing that we call digital notes, and we use the YouVersion Live events plan that is a completely free tool that you can use, but your church can set up live events and so kids can have their phones and they can be following along with the scriptures and taking notes.

00;18;55;17 - 00;19;19;03
Nick Clason
But then we're going to take them to Daniel. Chapter one. I got one more poll in there from Sidekick. I got another turn n talk. I got a map of where they go from Babylon to to from from Jerusalem to Babylon. Let's see, then I got some reasons why you oppose the food in Daniel Chapter one. I say what scholars think the age of this Daniel was, which is 11 to 17.

00;19;19;03 - 00;19;37;09
Nick Clason
And so my question is, how does a teenage boy end up in a foreign land? His parents are likely killed and he's opposing the king. How do you think he did that? How does he have enough wisdom to know what to do and what to oppose? And then I'm going to bring a coffee pot on stage and talk about how what we put in the pod there is what we filter.

00;19;37;09 - 00;19;57;18
Nick Clason
What spits out right, is a true form of of Christianity or it's not. But the Bible has to be the filter through which we do that. But the only way that matters if we truly have a desire to follow Jesus. Now, I don't like my whole reason for sharing All that is simply just for you to see all the different like I have sent them off to, to take questions.

00;19;57;18 - 00;20;26;54
Nick Clason
And then we have digital notes for them to follow along with. And we have polls on the screen and then we have a break in between. My first part of my teaching and my last part of my teaching, which is my third hack, and that's the one the leader said. I thought that was the most stupid idea because what I would do at summer camp last year is I teach for a little bit, share a little story in opening illustration, and then I would open it to a question and then I'd send them off in their small groups right there in that space in audio auditorium style seating at camp and say, Find your small

00;20;26;54 - 00;20;44;26
Nick Clason
group and your small group leader and answer these two questions and it would break for 10 minutes. And he said, I thought we were going to lose them. Like I thought like, man, that's dumb. Like, we are going to lose. These kids are going to go crazy. But what it actually did was it helped us have longer sessions and deeper teaching because we gave a break.

00;20;44;37 - 00;21;05;56
Nick Clason
I wasn't just sitting and teaching for 20 straight minutes, 30 straight minutes, 40 heaven forbid, straight minutes, because I gave them a break and I let them contribute to the conversation, which is what Gen Z is looking to do. Right? And so that one of the challenges to good creative teaching, because like I said, we use tables in our space most Wednesday Nights.

00;21;06;00 - 00;21;30;02
Nick Clason
It's one of the challenges to that right is navigating shared space, shared space in youth ministries, which is actually the next video it's going to be linked to right here on the screen. Itโ€™s a huge challenge and a problem facing youth pastors. How do you navigate it? What are best practices linked right here? Take a look at that, because we're here to try and make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible.

00;21;30;02 - 00;21;32;26
Nick Clason
So as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 086: ๐Ÿ˜จ Reaction: Carey Nieuwhofโ€™s 2024 Church Trends https://www.hybridministry.xyz/086 27b49fd0-4fcb-4804-b821-dfa57af76b23 Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 086 ๐Ÿ˜จ Reaction: Carey Nieuwhofโ€™s 2024 Church Trends full Nick Clason ๐Ÿ”ฅ Carey Niuwhof has recently been dropping some hot takes on the future of the church. ๐Ÿ‘“ In this episode, Nick reacts from a Hybrid Ministry and Youth Ministry perspective! ๐ŸŽฑ Number 8 is crazy! 14:32 no โšก [FREE] Hybrid Strategy Guideโšก https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg Carey's 2024 Church Trends Article https://careynieuwhof.com/future-church-trends/ ====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐Ÿ”ฅ Carey Niuwhof has recently been dropping some hot takes on the future of the church. ๐Ÿ‘“ In this episode, Nick reacts from a Hybrid Ministry and Youth Ministry perspective! ๐ŸŽฑ Number 8 is crazy! Carey's 2024 Church Trends Article https://careynieuwhof.com/future-church-trends/ ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/086 //YOUTUBE VIDEO https://youtu.be/KptS3NoiC6c //2024 CHURCH TRENDS ARTICLE https://careynieuwhof.com/future-church-trends/ //FREE EBOOK STRATEGY GUIDE https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book STOP IGNORING SOCIAL MEDIA //https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slB0Rmf_X0c&t=390s YOUTUBE GEAR FOR UNDER $100 //https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit HYBRID STRATEGY EXPLAINED //https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDxepdu4iiM STOP DOING THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA //https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slB0Rmf_X0c&t=390s BETTER CHURCH ANNOUNCEMENTS //https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhYluEKZ_I&list=PLngXlSr64YaKYLaGvuPA5pBYfJflXm0-A&index=43 ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐ŸŽ… "The Ultimate (and FREE!) Christmas Party Gude" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/christmas-party-run-sheet PRACTICAL YM TIPS: https://www.youtube.com/@practicalyouthministrytips ๐Ÿฉ "FREE World's Greatest Donut Event Guide" GUIDE: https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/worlds-greatest-donut ๐Ÿ˜จ "Have I already Ruined my TikTok Account?" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/ebook ๐Ÿ“น "Adobe Premiere Pro Presets for Animating Layers" https://share.hsforms.com/1VL1oWwWwQ82PLwsPFkPITgnumis ====================================== ๐Ÿ› ๏ธTOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products //BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv TRY REV.COM FOR TRANSCRIBING https://rev.pxf.io/R5nDOa -------------- ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES 00:00 Carey Nieuwhof's 2024 Church Trends Article 00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal 04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open 06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift? 08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry! 09:14 The Weekend Sermon is less important 10:49 Content Curation Matters! 12:00 Volunteerism isn't going to get better 13:30 Pastoral Burnout is on the decline! -------------- โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25 Nick Clason The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here. 00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20 Nick Clason I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittinโ€™ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear. 00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20 Nick Clason This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe. 00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13 Nick Clason If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it! 00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26 Nick Clason And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space. 00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25 Nick Clason Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhofโ€™s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing. 00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10 Nick Clason And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen. 00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15 Nick Clason Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for. 00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16 Nick Clason And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach. 00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02 Nick Clason Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity. 00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00 Nick Clason I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God. 00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13 Nick Clason They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving. 00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17 Nick Clason Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open. 00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09 Nick Clason They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%. 00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18 Nick Clason I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, โ€œA spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now. 00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03 Nick Clason The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend. 00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09 Nick Clason Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand. 00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13 Nick Clason Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together. 00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21 Nick Clason And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience. 00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28 Nick Clason And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God. 00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17 Nick Clason Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100. 00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03 Nick Clason And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services. 00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21 Nick Clason And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it. 00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27 Nick Clason You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right. 00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19 Nick Clason Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon. 00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10 Nick Clason You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore. 00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09 Nick Clason You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online. 00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19 Nick Clason This all from Nieuwhofโ€™s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet. 00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02 Nick Clason It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people? 00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28 Nick Clason I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right? 00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26 Nick Clason That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected. 00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19 Nick Clason Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out. 00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11 Nick Clason And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem. 00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14 Nick Clason How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission. 00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26 Nick Clason And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout. 00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10 Nick Clason But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen. 00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19 Nick Clason If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid. 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๐Ÿ”ฅ Carey Niuwhof has recently been dropping some hot takes on the future of the church.
๐Ÿ‘“ In this episode, Nick reacts from a Hybrid Ministry and Youth Ministry perspective!
๐ŸŽฑ Number 8 is crazy!

Carey's 2024 Church Trends Article
https://careynieuwhof.com/future-church-trends/
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๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
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http://www.hybridministry.xyz/086

//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/KptS3NoiC6c

//2024 CHURCH TRENDS ARTICLE
https://careynieuwhof.com/future-church-trends/

//FREE EBOOK STRATEGY GUIDE
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STOP IGNORING SOCIAL MEDIA
//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slB0Rmf_X0c&t=390s

YOUTUBE GEAR FOR UNDER $100
//https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit

HYBRID STRATEGY EXPLAINED
//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDxepdu4iiM

STOP DOING THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA
//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slB0Rmf_X0c&t=390s

BETTER CHURCH ANNOUNCEMENTS

//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhYluEKZ_I&list=PLngXlSr64YaKYLaGvuPA5pBYfJflXm0-A&index=43

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00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal
04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open
06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift?
08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry!
09:14 The Weekend Sermon is less important
10:49 Content Curation Matters!
12:00 Volunteerism isn't going to get better
13:30 Pastoral Burnout is on the decline!

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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25
Nick Clason
The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here.

00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20
Nick Clason
I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittinโ€™ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear.

00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20
Nick Clason
This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe.

00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13
Nick Clason
If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it!

00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26
Nick Clason
And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space.

00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25
Nick Clason
Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhofโ€™s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing.

00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10
Nick Clason
And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen.

00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15
Nick Clason
Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for.

00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16
Nick Clason
And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach.

00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02
Nick Clason
Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity.

00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00
Nick Clason
I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God.

00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13
Nick Clason
They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving.

00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17
Nick Clason
Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open.

00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09
Nick Clason
They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%.

00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18
Nick Clason
I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, โ€œA spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now.

00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03
Nick Clason
The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend.

00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09
Nick Clason
Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand.

00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13
Nick Clason
Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together.

00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21
Nick Clason
And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience.

00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28
Nick Clason
And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God.

00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17
Nick Clason
Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100.

00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03
Nick Clason
And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services.

00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21
Nick Clason
And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it.

00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27
Nick Clason
You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right.

00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19
Nick Clason
Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon.

00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10
Nick Clason
You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore.

00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09
Nick Clason
You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online.

00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19
Nick Clason
This all from Nieuwhofโ€™s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet.

00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02
Nick Clason
It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people?

00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28
Nick Clason
I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right?

00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26
Nick Clason
That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected.

00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19
Nick Clason
Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out.

00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11
Nick Clason
And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem.

00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14
Nick Clason
How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission.

00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26
Nick Clason
And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout.

00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10
Nick Clason
But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen.

00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19
Nick Clason
If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

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00:41 The Boomer Decline is a BIG Deal
04:48 Gen Z is Spiritually Open
06:27 Lean Further into Hybrid, Like Taylor Swift?
08:03 Don't Give up with Online Church Ministry!
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โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:23:25
Nick Clason
The future of the church, the Capital C church. Not just my church, not just your church. It's going to look very different in 2024. And frankly, beyond because of Generation Z and now Generation Alpha, both waving up Z into the adult ministry conversation Alpha into the youth ministry conversation. It makes me wonder if the future is already here.

00:00:23:27 - 00:00:45:20
Nick Clason
I think it might be Carey Nieuwhof has been spittinโ€™ an absolute fire recently talking about church trends. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to take his article Church Trends from 2024 things You Need to Know. Link down below on description and talk about it. And so let's jump in. Waste no time. Trend number one is that the Boomer church will decline and eventually disappear.

00:00:45:21 - 00:01:11:20
Nick Clason
This is just basic human psychology. You know, you get it right. But he said this. He said, Since 2020, the boomers have become the least likely demographic to return to church. That's out of post-COVID, 22% of them saying and saying that they've stopped attending church, get this entirely. Meanwhile, only 16% of millennials have stopped attending. So that's the smallest of the demographics and I love if you would, give me a subscribe.

00:01:11:21 - 00:01:29:13
Nick Clason
If you're a millennial, like if you're a Gen Xer and hey, hit the bill no matter what age demographic you are, because we are going to be dropping all kinds of new stuff. I got a new playlist already in the hopper. We just wrapped up the 2024 Youth Ministry on-demand Masterclass and now I got one coming at you next week excited for it!

00:01:29:13 - 00:01:56:26
Nick Clason
And if you're on YouTube, you get it early, you get it on Wednesday instead of Thursday in the regular podcast feed. But Nieuwhof goes on to say that 54% of millennials actually attended primarily in-person. 65% of boomers say that they only attend in-person. And so that is a that's going to be key coming down the pike here in a minute as we look at this trend's article about the difference between the hybrid space in the in-person space.

00:01:56:27 - 00:02:17:25
Nick Clason
Right. Unlike boomers, millennials, they they don't just track with church while they're in the building. Millennials and Xers, honestly, are quite comfortable with the idea of hybrid church. This is Nieuwhofโ€™s blog. And guess what? He has no idea that this podcast exists. But the fact of the matter is he sees it just like I feel like I have been seeing.

00:02:17:25 - 00:02:37:10
Nick Clason
And I'm not trying to be like I'm as smart as Carey Nieuwhof by no means at all. But the dude is is calling it right? He says. So boomers for the most part, they've not embraced hybrid church. If you watching on YouTube if not, go ahead to hybridministry.xyz/086 for the show notes. But this graph is going to be on screen.

00:02:37:10 - 00:03:04:15
Nick Clason
Just click the YouTube link. If you do go to your podcast catcher and scrub forward to this part in the episode, but says since the COVID 19 pandemic, which of the following most accurately describes your church attendance either online or in-person? This is the percentage of Christians who are attending church pre COVID 19. And so you'll see that like the highest gap right there have stopped attending is actually boomers, which is what most of our churches were built for.

00:03:04:18 - 00:03:34:16
Nick Clason
And a large, large majority of of millennials you'll see and Xers have been attending the same church that they attended pre COVID. And so there are three kind of main areas of impact with this point. The first one is attendance. Right? And one idea that I have in light of that is stop ignoring social media. Our attendance is going to take on a different kind of approach.

00:03:34:18 - 00:04:00:02
Nick Clason
Millennials and Xers and Gen Z are going to attend church less and less frequently. It doesn't mean they're less committed to your church. It just means they're less committed to being there on a week to week basis. We live in a different world. And so if you as a youth pastor in particular are ignoring social media or only using social media as an avenue or an outlet to post announcements, you're missing out on an incredible opportunity.

00:04:00:07 - 00:04:30:00
Nick Clason
I think about it in my own space. I have teenagers who have weekend soccer tournaments and baseball tournaments and things that keep them out on the weekend. It doesn't mean that they're not committed or that they're less committed to our church. It just simply means that they have other obligations. And I know I've worked at churches and on church staff that say they're not as committed, but if we go hybrid and if we find a way to meet them where they are, which is really what this is all about, they can still consume the things of God.

00:04:30:00 - 00:04:50:13
Nick Clason
They can still follow him, they can still be connected and attached to our church. You look at this graph here on the screen, Weekly Church attendance by generation millennials are actually the highest out of the pandemic, post-COVID. So attendance is area number one that this is going to impact. It's also going to impact volunteering and thirdly, it's going to impact giving.

00:04:50:18 - 00:05:17:17
Nick Clason
Carey Nieuwhof goes on to say that open pastors will actually be more well-positioned to reach an open generation. Speaking of and talking about Generation Z, Gen Z, statistically speaking, is actually the most spiritually open generation that we've ever actually seen in our history. Right. And if you check out the YouTube, the YouTube feed here, you'll see that the spiritual journey of Gen Z, you'll see that they're open.

00:05:17:23 - 00:05:42:09
Nick Clason
They're much more open to things of God and faith. They believe that there's supernatural or spiritual side to life, 61% compared to 51% of all adults. They've gone through a prolonged they've gone through a prolonged period of time where they've significantly doubted their faith. 65% to 49%, 56% say my experiences have led me to deconstruct or take apart my faith of my youth 56% versus 47%.

00:05:42:09 - 00:06:04:18
Nick Clason
I'm disillusioned by my experience in the Christian church 48 to 43%. But I love this line that he has in the blog he says, โ€œA spiritually open generation is a reachable generation. So what are you doing to reach this generation? This this generation is laying the groundwork for Gen Alpha, which is right behind them, youth pastors, Gen Alpha, they're in your youth ministry right now.

00:06:04:18 - 00:06:27:03
Nick Clason
The oldest ones of them are are some of the youngest kids in your youth ministry. So like I said, youth pastors go hybrid. Check out my e-book link down description. I'll give you a step by step guide to not only posting on social media, but then also posting your YouTube messages and using that as your bedrock so that everything builds on top of that, which is actually why this next trend.

00:06:27:04 - 00:06:48:09
Nick Clason
Right. I obviously believe this next trend is completely spot on because it says this the line between digital and in-person will blur even more. And he says, take a note from Taylor Swift yet check this out. Is it Taylor Swift is actually a prime example of this. In particular, she's modeling how to have a strong digital presence and drive an intense in-person demand.

00:06:48:12 - 00:07:16:13
Nick Clason
Her midnight album released in October of 2022. You can see this graph on the screen. It's absolutely crazy. You will not believe what you're seeing It says. And not only broke streaming records on Spotify, but it simultaneously locked up every position on the Billboard Top ten, and they sold 500,000 physical vinyl albums in a single week, often times there's an argument against a hybrid strategy in favor of the in-person experience, like they can't go together.

00:07:16:13 - 00:07:46:21
Nick Clason
And and that's the thing that is actually the hybrid. I'm like, no, that's that's not just digital. That's both that's online and that's in-person and that's putting them together. And pastors look at the graph. Her in-person ticket sales skyrocketed and went through the roof. So if you can capture the magic of a digital and strong online presence, you can actually bring that into fruition in your in-person experience.

00:07:46:27 - 00:08:08:28
Nick Clason
And on the converse of that or the inverse of one of those two, the flip side of that, let's go with that. The flip side of that is that once people are attached, you're connected to your church. You can continue to show up in their life throughout the rest of the week, giving them discipleship resources, Bible study tools and things that will help them grow in their faith and nurture their walk with God.

00:08:09:00 - 00:08:35:17
Nick Clason
Number four Nieuwhof says that churches that embrace online ministry will start seeing results. You may be out there and being like I've been trying to do. I'm not seeing the results. I'm getting frustrated, I'm getting tired. But like I said, we can help, right? I get it. The resources aren't there and and they're likely there for the rest of the church that they're not there, especially for youth ministries, which is why I down in the description below, I have YouTube gear for under $100.

00:08:35:23 - 00:08:58:03
Nick Clason
And this video right here will detail an outline, all of it and how you can use it and make it happen. But Kerry said that according to Lifeway Research, before the pandemic, only 27% of churches offered any live streaming. That's essentially one out of four. However, since that live streaming of services and now post pandemic, 92% of churches now live stream their services.

00:08:58:03 - 00:09:18:21
Nick Clason
And so as the world has reopened, the surprising things and number of those churches that were up at the 92%, they've actually throttled back their online services, hoping to to drive in-person attendance as if they're competing with one another. And so not only is that a bad strategy and you have said he says it's also incredibly shortsighted. Stick with it.

00:09:18:22 - 00:09:44:27
Nick Clason
You're going to see the results. Number five, he says the purpose of the weekend sermon will shift from being an attraction to an anchor. Listen, stop doing this on social media, which is linked down in the description part of the 2024 Youth Ministry OnDemand Masterclass playlist. I just wrapped up last week in the last video. But but stop doing these things right.

00:09:44:29 - 00:10:06:19
Nick Clason
Stop saying on social media. Join us for our new series on Sunday at nine and 11. Don't miss last Sunday's message available online on demand. I can't wait to share your brand new message with you. That's what Nieuwhof is saying that's not attraction A lot of times we as pastors and listen, I get it, Pastor, like you've spent time on this sermon.

00:10:06:20 - 00:10:25:10
Nick Clason
You care about these people and you care and you want them to hear what you have to say. But that's a very on onto me or I'm sorry, that's a very cable TV strategy. That's a very like, hey, you can only hear this thing at nine and 11. And the fact is that we don't live in a cable TV society anymore.

00:10:25:10 - 00:10:54:09
Nick Clason
You probably even watch cable TV anymore. The only appointment television that I even have anymore is like live sports. Otherwise everything else is streaming. And so I think it's much better start thinking about the real reasons why people come to church, because there are still reasons why people come to church and come to in-person church. Things like community, things like kids and student ministry, things like connection and an experience that doesn't always translate to online.

00:10:54:09 - 00:11:24:19
Nick Clason
This all from Nieuwhofโ€™s blog Number six. He says content curation will now start to matter as much as content creation. He said the push to online and the changing place of sermons in today's world can leave pastors feeling an unsustainable pressure to produce a nonstop flow of spiritual content. And so, as more and more passages are discovering every year, it's almost impossible to produce top tier messages week to week to compete with some of the best that is out and available on the Internet.

00:11:24:22 - 00:11:42:02
Nick Clason
It's not any pressure, right? This was not a pressure from any previous generations. The things that pastors dealt with honestly can feel like an unsustainable pressure. And so one of the things he says is, he says, flip it from content creation to consider curating like how can you gather some of the best sources and then help point and show your people?

00:11:42:02 - 00:11:59:28
Nick Clason
I mean, even I'm thinking about this weekend, we're doing a a workshop for some of our teenagers on how to study the Bible. And if they get on Google, they can find all kinds of different resources. But how do they know if they're reputable or not? Right? So we give them a list. Here are five resources that we know that we trust and that we say, Hey, you can use, right?

00:12:00:05 - 00:12:25:26
Nick Clason
That's a great example of a way that you can curate the entire World Wide Web and then package it and bring it to your people. Number seven, not to depress anyone Nieuwhof says the volunteer crisis will move from acute to chronic. He had three reasons for it. Number one, first, the return to church meant different people returned to church and much slower than I think we all expected.

00:12:25:29 - 00:12:45:19
Nick Clason
Number two, more significantly, as trend number one outlined at the beginning of the article, boomers are aging out and are the least likely group to return to church. This makes the volunteer backbone of most churches, a nonprofit organizations less robust than it used to be. And that's only going to get more challenging, especially as boomers continue to age and ultimately age out.

00:12:45:22 - 00:13:08:11
Nick Clason
And third, and finally, the next generation, primarily millennials and Generation Z, they attend church less and left less often, like I said earlier, making it less frequent thing, meaning they have more options on the weekends so it gets harder for them to commit. So we need to be thinking about as pastors, not only like understanding and realizing there is a volunteer crisis and there is a volunteer problem.

00:13:08:13 - 00:13:31:14
Nick Clason
How can you shift? We actually talked about it in a video linked down blown description, but we've actually talked about how can you shift your volunteer pitch from we need you to we want to come alongside and support you. We want you to to flourish here. We want to watch you experience incredible depth and purpose and live a life on mission.

00:13:31:14 - 00:13:54:26
Nick Clason
And we believe as a church, we can help facilitate that for you. It's really not that big of a shift. Number eight Pastoral. Pastoral burnout will stabilize as pastors embrace their new church. Listen, if you're a pastor here on this podcast, this is good news because you've seen that over the last several years, pastors have had a high risk for burnout.

00:13:54:26 - 00:14:22:10
Nick Clason
But there's hope. You're doing a great job. And as this graph highlights, it's starting to stabilize. It's starting to normalize. The newness of all the things from 2020 and beyond is starting to kind of chill out. And there's hope. You're you can do it right there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know, one of the keys that I have personally found in stabilizing my burnout and making me feel more enticed about continuing on in my job is increasing my time management load, which is actually linked right here on the screen.

00:14:22:10 - 00:14:41:19
Nick Clason
If you want to check that video, go ahead and do that. But we're so glad that you checked out this this podcast and this episode. Thank you, Carrie, for this amazing article. It is spot on because I believe that we need to make digital discipleship not only easy but possible and inaccessible. And so, as always, don't forget stay hybrid.

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How frequently should we be offering trainings for our youth ministry volunteers? What are some key topics that our youth ministry and our youth ministry volunteers need to be exploring? And then finally, what are some platforms that you can utilize that you can send them to so that they can sharpen their skills as volunteers? 00;00;23;29 - 00;00;45;52 Nick Clason And finally, make sure that you hang around all the way to the end of the video, because I have an idea that I think will not only help your volunteers level up, but also is going to not add another meeting to your plate. Well, everyone, welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 something years. 00;00;45;53 - 00;01;05;46 Nick Clason And because of that, you've got to think about a youth ministry, has a lot of things that feel a little bit unnatural. Like let's just say, for example, I was a volunteer in your youth ministry and let's say I walked in for the very first time and you told me, Hey, listen, just go like, go hang out and love on teenagers. 00;01;05;51 - 00;01;35;02 Nick Clason Like, I would probably as a 13 year youth ministry veteran, I would probably be okay and figure out how to do that. Now, if a brand new dad or mom or college student walks in and you give them those exact same instructions, they're probably not going to know what to do. For one of the reasons simply being because they are told all throughout society and culture not to do that. 00;01;35;02 - 00;01;57;06 Nick Clason And so in a lot of ways, youth ministry is kind of creepy, right? And so we have to help A, give them the comfort and safety to do some of those things, but be help teach them in love with them on how they can do that safely and appropriately, and that it is good youth ministry for them to to go hang out with teenagers and not just be a chaperon. 00;01;57;09 - 00;02;19;47 Nick Clason But I say that to say because you need to help sharpen their skills. You have to help level them up. Some of the things that you and I do as youth pastors, youth leaders, we already do these things naturally, but we need to level up. We need to train our volunteers. And if if one of the roles that we're trying to use have them hang out with students, well then, hey, was. 00;02;19;47 - 00;02;50;11 Nick Clason And we should probably give them opportunities to do that. That's why I actually I created this completely free e-book. If you look through it, it's 40 ideas, a month's worth of posting content, but it's not just a bunch of still and static graphics. What it actually is, is it's teaching you in training you not only how to prerecord your messages to post them on YouTube so that you are showing up in a digital and a hybrid space on a platform where students are spending 95% or 94% of students are spending some of their time. 00;02;50;23 - 00;03;11;28 Nick Clason But also then it will let you, your students and your leaders do things and work together on camera. Different challenges, different different games and things like that. And so that's going to be a great opportunity for your students and your leaders to start to rub shoulders. And you can kill two birds with one stone by crushing it for social media. 00;03;11;33 - 00;03;51;07 Nick Clason How frequently should we as youth pastors and youth ministry leaders, how frequently should we be hosting trainings? Well, let's talk about that in the next video. Suffering. We should be hosting trainings. There are several schools of thought and there are a couple of different ways to think about it. First of all, every single time you meet, you may be having some sort of huddle and I would recommend some sort of thing around that, some sort of, you know, strategy of around meeting, getting everyone on the same page, giving everyone the service order service brunch sheet so that they have what they need so that they're they're not in a lurch for that night. 00;03;51;12 - 00;04;17;01 Nick Clason However, that can give a little bit cumbersome and especially if it's like on a Wednesday night, you may be running into volunteers and they're getting off of work schedule. And so one thing that I have done in the past is instead of doing a weekly huddle, I've done more of like a monthly gathering, monthly huddle. And then that monthly gathering would not only operate as a weekly huddle to get everyone on the same page and talk to them about what we're teaching and sharing in our small group. 00;04;17;01 - 00;04;47;30 Nick Clason But then it would also give me a moment to do some teambuilding as well as some training. And so that was sort of be a strategy to do that. But let me just say that one time, one year I was doing a monthly huddle, I shifted from a weekly huddle to a monthly huddle. And in my monthly huddle, one thing that felt like all I can explain is the feeling was myself in many of my volunteers every single time, when it was time for another huddle, they'd be like again, rather just felt like it was all the time. 00;04;47;30 - 00;05;05;09 Nick Clason Felt was constantly something that we were turn around and doing like, we got another one of those again. yeah, that's right. It's been a month, right? And so there may be a rhythm and you just got to figure this out. What works for you? Because a monthly huddle is often probably something you have to do in an off peak time. 00;05;05;09 - 00;05;26;42 Nick Clason So it's Sunday after church or it's Wednesday late after one of your Wednesday nights or something like that. But it's not going to be tied to and woven in to your already existing youth ministry schedule. And so you just you got to figure out when can you get all of your volunteers to commit to another moment on their calendar in their week. 00;05;26;56 - 00;06;06;27 Nick Clason And then another idea within that is how frequently are you going to be communicating? So while you do have meetings, there are going to be infrequent or not infrequent, but but different types of communication. So things like group text messages and or emails, how frequently, how often are you going to be also sending those things? I personally I recommend weekly, so a weekly sort of communication email and then another like another form of gathering, whether that be a an annual meeting, which I haven't said yet, but that's an idea, an annual meeting, a one time meeting, whether it's twice a year, you get together for a big sort of thing, whether it's a monthly sort 00;06;06;27 - 00;06;24;42 Nick Clason of leader gathering or some sort of weekly huddle. Now every single one of those scenarios, your training is going to have to look a little bit different. If you do annually, you probably can do a big seminar type style thing. You can probably do that if you meet twice a year. If you do monthly, you might need to make it a little more bite sized. 00;06;24;42 - 00;06;52;11 Nick Clason Not so long, not so so many hours of a commitment. And if you meet weekly, you got to be more in like the tips and tactics zone and all those to be said. You can also share some tips and tactics to level up youth ministry training in your weekly communications via text via email. Now, you might be thinking like, okay, I see the need for this and I realize I need to figure out where I'm going to stick it on my calendar. 00;06;52;15 - 00;07;18;57 Nick Clason But what in the world should I be talking about? Great. Let's let's talk through that in the next section. All right. Some good topics. And these are just suggestions and examples. And and if something pops up in some particular area or arena in your student ministry, then address it by all means. Right. But if you are like I know I want to me and only to help level my leaders off, but I don't even know where to start then. 00;07;19;10 - 00;07;41;38 Nick Clason Then there's give me a list right here on the screen. If you are listening, you can head to the show notes, HybridMinistry.xyz/085 Also, if you do end up over on YouTube, be sure to give us a subscribe and a like because these topics we don't want only you to have them. We want all the youth pastors in America to know them, to have them, and to be able to turn to them in a time of need. 00;07;41;38 - 00;08;05;31 Nick Clason But some topics that I have done or have seen or I just think can be useful. I have ten right here. Screenshot them. This could if you do a monthly gathering, this could essentially fill out your monthly training calendar for for the year. Right. One per month. So the first one is how do you distinguish between a leader versus being a friend of the students. 00;08;05;36 - 00;08;22;37 Nick Clason You can also then chat through in another month managing a distracted group. We've all been there. We've all led a group that's distracted, especially the sixth grade boys group. How do you get them on task and what is a win for them? How do you take kids seriously? A lot of times we want to come in. We want to tell them what to do. 00;08;22;37 - 00;08;44;54 Nick Clason But how do we take their needs, their concerns, their thoughts, their ideas, their their the things that they say? How do we take them seriously so that we can add and bring value to who they are as people? How do you pray with your small group? What are some practical ideas beyond just praying to close? But how can you be praying as a small group and be a praying small group together? 00;08;44;58 - 00;09;02;52 Nick Clason Maybe do a little training on Gen Z and Gen Alpha? I actually have a video links right here at the top of the screen about Gen Alpha, exploring who they are and what we need to know. So maybe you could go watch that and that could be the springboard for some of your content. What are some cultural trends right these days that are going on? 00;09;03;01 - 00;09;23;21 Nick Clason You should be thinking like, what? What's what's culturally relevant right now and how can we take those trends and how can we chat through? Some of them especially have a a team of adults. They're not living in teen culture anymore, so help expose them to some of those things that maybe even you need to do a little bit of study, a little bit of research on, but help expose them to some of those things. 00;09;23;26 - 00;09;56;11 Nick Clason What about the power of listening? You know that it's not good for a small group leader to be in there and to just be yammer on the whole time. So help help challenge them, help challenge your small group leaders to listen first and talk second. What about the power of showing up helping, as we talked about in the last video in this youth ministry Master Class 2024 playlist as we talked about scaling up the care for leaders, shepherding you can you can spread out some of those responsibilities if if a small group leader shows up to a kid's soccer game, not only does that get you off the hook and I'm not saying that you 00;09;56;11 - 00;10;17;17 Nick Clason should be trying to get off the hook of these things, but if you have 100 kids to get to soccer games for, that's going to be tricky for you to get to a hundred different soccer games. But your youth ministry volunteers can also show up to the kids in their small group, getting teens to serve, helping, helping equip small group leaders to to be recruiters and helping teenagers step into their God given callings and abilities. 00;10;17;17 - 00;10;40;49 Nick Clason And finally, how do you partner with parents? Give smokable leaders tangible tips and tricks and tools to be able to reach out to parents? Very simply, something like do they have all the email lists? And if they don't, do they have access to get all the email lists? Have you allowed them to be a member of your church management software to at least be able to get in and access the group information? 00;10;41;00 - 00;11;00;13 Nick Clason So those are just some topic ideas. It's not holistic, it's not exhaustive, but they're just ten ideas to help you begin to think about training. I remember thinking, Do I do that? Do I do you know one of those topics in a monthly gathering? Do I cram some of them together in an annual gathering? Do I weave some of them in and out of my communication? 00;11;00;18 - 00;11;38;48 Nick Clason The answer to that is it's up to you. You guys figure out what's going to work best for you, but I do have in the next section several platforms that you can explore and look at and maybe even try to train and level up some of your youth ministry volunteers. So hey, let's go check that out. So from a once a year from an annual sort of perspective, there is no better option honestly than the NDOVYMT, which is an abbreviation for the National Day of Volunteer Youth Ministry training put on hosted by my friends over a download Youth Ministry, Josh Griffin, Doug Fields and their team. 00;11;38;52 - 00;12;09;11 Nick Clason There is a link down in the description or head over to the show notes for our train. My volunteers Scott, which will give you info and insight into how to sign up for one of these things. The fact is the pricing is very, very cheap for training your entire team. It's only $250. If you want to be a host church or have other churches come to your church as a host, church is $400, but you get to bring as many people, as many volunteers to that training as possible. 00;12;09;11 - 00;12;30;15 Nick Clason Plus, it's all video based. And so you get that video for the entire year. Even if you don't play the full video, you can kind of clip it up and use it throughout the year. Another platform idea platform idea number two is honestly this YouTube channel, right? Like I am focusing on helping Mel between the digital and the physical and bringing those things together. 00;12;30;15 - 00;12;50;45 Nick Clason But I also have a lot of like just generalize youth ministry content so you could check out my youth ministry channel idea number three, you can help. You can check out the Practical Youth Ministry Tips podcast. My friend Eric with the K Williams, he is dropping gold all day long over on his channel as well. So both of our channels are completely free. 00;12;50;45 - 00;13;08;53 Nick Clason Both of us are trying to to just get the message in the word out there. And so we want people to at these, be aware of it. But right now we're doing it for primarily for free, right? We're not charging you 400 hours like National Day Training is another couple of ideas is the do I am leader training library. 00;13;08;53 - 00;13;29;07 Nick Clason So if you're a member of do you. I am I can't remember the tiers who gets access to this but but I know if you're at the highest couple of tiers you get access to a do I am leader training library. So there are videos that you can log into a portal and you can watch video trainings from people like Doug Fields, Josh Griffin and some of their friends over there. 00;13;29;07 - 00;14;09;37 Nick Clason And they have several of the topics, even several topics that I was was suggesting earlier are available on that podcast site. Another thing that I have submitted content for and I have used is the My Youth Min portal by YM360. I think it's aimed a little bit more at the primary and Central youth worker, but it's a great platform to check out if it's something that you is behind a paywall, but it's got like some topflight people talking about things, people in the trenches, and it's like 19 pieces of new content drop onto that platform every single month. 00;14;09;48 - 00;14;27;55 Nick Clason And so that's one of the keys about it, is that it is it is dynamic and it is moving. It's not just going to be like a leader training library of static videos that haven't been updated in several years. And so the MYM podcast link down below the description or the show notes, all for all these are links down the description. 00;14;27;55 - 00;15;00;47 Nick Clason And finally, the idea that I think because things are changing and I don't want another meeting on my calendar and, and you probably don't want another meeting on your calendar, an idea for training either to supplement or to replace some of your in-person meetings is what about creating a podcast on the go right? Like you can you can offer training to your leaders as they're going as they're heading to work, as they're running groceries, as they're picking up kids from school and soccer practice. 00;15;00;52 - 00;15;34;46 Nick Clason If you create a podcast feed, whether it be a public or a private feed and you just do 5 to 10 minute trainings, you can pick up a pretty easy and cheap microphone. Very similar to this. I'll drop some links down below in the show notes for you to check out. If you want to do video based, you can use your cell phone and you can get up and going and listen If you if you start pre filming your messages like I recommend in my full year strategy anyway, you should have a camera, whether it be a real camera or you just using your phone and you're using my under $100 starter kit to get 00;15;34;46 - 00;16;00;06 Nick Clason going. You can use that as a way to get some of that training up and going and then you can just start posting it to places. And so if you do audio, you do a podcast feed, if you do video, you do YouTube. But like I said, what I'm trying to think of as I'm trying to ride some of the future waves in some of the future trends, because that's actually what I'm going to be talking about in the very next video, which is going to be linked right here on the screen. 00;16;00;11 - 00;16;21;42 Nick Clason Carey Nieuwhof in his 2024 trends. It is an amazing article. He's been doing an amazing job. 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๐Ÿค” How do we train our youth and student ministry volunteers?
๐Ÿ“… How frequently should we be training our volunteers?
๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿซ What are some topics?
๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ And what are some platforms you can utilize?

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2) Managing a Distracted Group
3) Taking Kids Seriously
4) Praying with your small group
5) Gen Z & Gen Alpha

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6) Cultural Trends
7) The power of listening
8) Showing up
9) Getting Teens to Serve
10) Partnering with Parents

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00:00-00:39 Youth Ministry Volunteer Training
00:39-03:22 Why do we need to train volunteers?
03:22-06:59 How often should we train our volunteers?
06:59-11:19 Topics to Train Volunteers in
11:19-16:26 Youth Ministry Training Platforms

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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;23;29
Nick Clason
How do we train our youth ministry volunteers? How frequently should we be offering trainings for our youth ministry volunteers? What are some key topics that our youth ministry and our youth ministry volunteers need to be exploring? And then finally, what are some platforms that you can utilize that you can send them to so that they can sharpen their skills as volunteers?

00;00;23;29 - 00;00;45;52
Nick Clason
And finally, make sure that you hang around all the way to the end of the video, because I have an idea that I think will not only help your volunteers level up, but also is going to not add another meeting to your plate. Well, everyone, welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 something years.

00;00;45;53 - 00;01;05;46
Nick Clason
And because of that, you've got to think about a youth ministry, has a lot of things that feel a little bit unnatural. Like let's just say, for example, I was a volunteer in your youth ministry and let's say I walked in for the very first time and you told me, Hey, listen, just go like, go hang out and love on teenagers.

00;01;05;51 - 00;01;35;02
Nick Clason
Like, I would probably as a 13 year youth ministry veteran, I would probably be okay and figure out how to do that. Now, if a brand new dad or mom or college student walks in and you give them those exact same instructions, they're probably not going to know what to do. For one of the reasons simply being because they are told all throughout society and culture not to do that.

00;01;35;02 - 00;01;57;06
Nick Clason
And so in a lot of ways, youth ministry is kind of creepy, right? And so we have to help A, give them the comfort and safety to do some of those things, but be help teach them in love with them on how they can do that safely and appropriately, and that it is good youth ministry for them to to go hang out with teenagers and not just be a chaperon.

00;01;57;09 - 00;02;19;47
Nick Clason
But I say that to say because you need to help sharpen their skills. You have to help level them up. Some of the things that you and I do as youth pastors, youth leaders, we already do these things naturally, but we need to level up. We need to train our volunteers. And if if one of the roles that we're trying to use have them hang out with students, well then, hey, was.

00;02;19;47 - 00;02;50;11
Nick Clason
And we should probably give them opportunities to do that. That's why I actually I created this completely free e-book. If you look through it, it's 40 ideas, a month's worth of posting content, but it's not just a bunch of still and static graphics. What it actually is, is it's teaching you in training you not only how to prerecord your messages to post them on YouTube so that you are showing up in a digital and a hybrid space on a platform where students are spending 95% or 94% of students are spending some of their time.

00;02;50;23 - 00;03;11;28
Nick Clason
But also then it will let you, your students and your leaders do things and work together on camera. Different challenges, different different games and things like that. And so that's going to be a great opportunity for your students and your leaders to start to rub shoulders. And you can kill two birds with one stone by crushing it for social media.

00;03;11;33 - 00;03;51;07
Nick Clason
How frequently should we as youth pastors and youth ministry leaders, how frequently should we be hosting trainings? Well, let's talk about that in the next video. Suffering. We should be hosting trainings. There are several schools of thought and there are a couple of different ways to think about it. First of all, every single time you meet, you may be having some sort of huddle and I would recommend some sort of thing around that, some sort of, you know, strategy of around meeting, getting everyone on the same page, giving everyone the service order service brunch sheet so that they have what they need so that they're they're not in a lurch for that night.

00;03;51;12 - 00;04;17;01
Nick Clason
However, that can give a little bit cumbersome and especially if it's like on a Wednesday night, you may be running into volunteers and they're getting off of work schedule. And so one thing that I have done in the past is instead of doing a weekly huddle, I've done more of like a monthly gathering, monthly huddle. And then that monthly gathering would not only operate as a weekly huddle to get everyone on the same page and talk to them about what we're teaching and sharing in our small group.

00;04;17;01 - 00;04;47;30
Nick Clason
But then it would also give me a moment to do some teambuilding as well as some training. And so that was sort of be a strategy to do that. But let me just say that one time, one year I was doing a monthly huddle, I shifted from a weekly huddle to a monthly huddle. And in my monthly huddle, one thing that felt like all I can explain is the feeling was myself in many of my volunteers every single time, when it was time for another huddle, they'd be like again, rather just felt like it was all the time.

00;04;47;30 - 00;05;05;09
Nick Clason
Felt was constantly something that we were turn around and doing like, we got another one of those again. yeah, that's right. It's been a month, right? And so there may be a rhythm and you just got to figure this out. What works for you? Because a monthly huddle is often probably something you have to do in an off peak time.

00;05;05;09 - 00;05;26;42
Nick Clason
So it's Sunday after church or it's Wednesday late after one of your Wednesday nights or something like that. But it's not going to be tied to and woven in to your already existing youth ministry schedule. And so you just you got to figure out when can you get all of your volunteers to commit to another moment on their calendar in their week.

00;05;26;56 - 00;06;06;27
Nick Clason
And then another idea within that is how frequently are you going to be communicating? So while you do have meetings, there are going to be infrequent or not infrequent, but but different types of communication. So things like group text messages and or emails, how frequently, how often are you going to be also sending those things? I personally I recommend weekly, so a weekly sort of communication email and then another like another form of gathering, whether that be a an annual meeting, which I haven't said yet, but that's an idea, an annual meeting, a one time meeting, whether it's twice a year, you get together for a big sort of thing, whether it's a monthly sort

00;06;06;27 - 00;06;24;42
Nick Clason
of leader gathering or some sort of weekly huddle. Now every single one of those scenarios, your training is going to have to look a little bit different. If you do annually, you probably can do a big seminar type style thing. You can probably do that if you meet twice a year. If you do monthly, you might need to make it a little more bite sized.

00;06;24;42 - 00;06;52;11
Nick Clason
Not so long, not so so many hours of a commitment. And if you meet weekly, you got to be more in like the tips and tactics zone and all those to be said. You can also share some tips and tactics to level up youth ministry training in your weekly communications via text via email. Now, you might be thinking like, okay, I see the need for this and I realize I need to figure out where I'm going to stick it on my calendar.

00;06;52;15 - 00;07;18;57
Nick Clason
But what in the world should I be talking about? Great. Let's let's talk through that in the next section. All right. Some good topics. And these are just suggestions and examples. And and if something pops up in some particular area or arena in your student ministry, then address it by all means. Right. But if you are like I know I want to me and only to help level my leaders off, but I don't even know where to start then.

00;07;19;10 - 00;07;41;38
Nick Clason
Then there's give me a list right here on the screen. If you are listening, you can head to the show notes, HybridMinistry.xyz/085 Also, if you do end up over on YouTube, be sure to give us a subscribe and a like because these topics we don't want only you to have them. We want all the youth pastors in America to know them, to have them, and to be able to turn to them in a time of need.

00;07;41;38 - 00;08;05;31
Nick Clason
But some topics that I have done or have seen or I just think can be useful. I have ten right here. Screenshot them. This could if you do a monthly gathering, this could essentially fill out your monthly training calendar for for the year. Right. One per month. So the first one is how do you distinguish between a leader versus being a friend of the students.

00;08;05;36 - 00;08;22;37
Nick Clason
You can also then chat through in another month managing a distracted group. We've all been there. We've all led a group that's distracted, especially the sixth grade boys group. How do you get them on task and what is a win for them? How do you take kids seriously? A lot of times we want to come in. We want to tell them what to do.

00;08;22;37 - 00;08;44;54
Nick Clason
But how do we take their needs, their concerns, their thoughts, their ideas, their their the things that they say? How do we take them seriously so that we can add and bring value to who they are as people? How do you pray with your small group? What are some practical ideas beyond just praying to close? But how can you be praying as a small group and be a praying small group together?

00;08;44;58 - 00;09;02;52
Nick Clason
Maybe do a little training on Gen Z and Gen Alpha? I actually have a video links right here at the top of the screen about Gen Alpha, exploring who they are and what we need to know. So maybe you could go watch that and that could be the springboard for some of your content. What are some cultural trends right these days that are going on?

00;09;03;01 - 00;09;23;21
Nick Clason
You should be thinking like, what? What's what's culturally relevant right now and how can we take those trends and how can we chat through? Some of them especially have a a team of adults. They're not living in teen culture anymore, so help expose them to some of those things that maybe even you need to do a little bit of study, a little bit of research on, but help expose them to some of those things.

00;09;23;26 - 00;09;56;11
Nick Clason
What about the power of listening? You know that it's not good for a small group leader to be in there and to just be yammer on the whole time. So help help challenge them, help challenge your small group leaders to listen first and talk second. What about the power of showing up helping, as we talked about in the last video in this youth ministry Master Class 2024 playlist as we talked about scaling up the care for leaders, shepherding you can you can spread out some of those responsibilities if if a small group leader shows up to a kid's soccer game, not only does that get you off the hook and I'm not saying that you

00;09;56;11 - 00;10;17;17
Nick Clason
should be trying to get off the hook of these things, but if you have 100 kids to get to soccer games for, that's going to be tricky for you to get to a hundred different soccer games. But your youth ministry volunteers can also show up to the kids in their small group, getting teens to serve, helping, helping equip small group leaders to to be recruiters and helping teenagers step into their God given callings and abilities.

00;10;17;17 - 00;10;40;49
Nick Clason
And finally, how do you partner with parents? Give smokable leaders tangible tips and tricks and tools to be able to reach out to parents? Very simply, something like do they have all the email lists? And if they don't, do they have access to get all the email lists? Have you allowed them to be a member of your church management software to at least be able to get in and access the group information?

00;10;41;00 - 00;11;00;13
Nick Clason
So those are just some topic ideas. It's not holistic, it's not exhaustive, but they're just ten ideas to help you begin to think about training. I remember thinking, Do I do that? Do I do you know one of those topics in a monthly gathering? Do I cram some of them together in an annual gathering? Do I weave some of them in and out of my communication?

00;11;00;18 - 00;11;38;48
Nick Clason
The answer to that is it's up to you. You guys figure out what's going to work best for you, but I do have in the next section several platforms that you can explore and look at and maybe even try to train and level up some of your youth ministry volunteers. So hey, let's go check that out. So from a once a year from an annual sort of perspective, there is no better option honestly than the NDOVYMT, which is an abbreviation for the National Day of Volunteer Youth Ministry training put on hosted by my friends over a download Youth Ministry, Josh Griffin, Doug Fields and their team.

00;11;38;52 - 00;12;09;11
Nick Clason
There is a link down in the description or head over to the show notes for our train. My volunteers Scott, which will give you info and insight into how to sign up for one of these things. The fact is the pricing is very, very cheap for training your entire team. It's only $250. If you want to be a host church or have other churches come to your church as a host, church is $400, but you get to bring as many people, as many volunteers to that training as possible.

00;12;09;11 - 00;12;30;15
Nick Clason
Plus, it's all video based. And so you get that video for the entire year. Even if you don't play the full video, you can kind of clip it up and use it throughout the year. Another platform idea platform idea number two is honestly this YouTube channel, right? Like I am focusing on helping Mel between the digital and the physical and bringing those things together.

00;12;30;15 - 00;12;50;45
Nick Clason
But I also have a lot of like just generalize youth ministry content so you could check out my youth ministry channel idea number three, you can help. You can check out the Practical Youth Ministry Tips podcast. My friend Eric with the K Williams, he is dropping gold all day long over on his channel as well. So both of our channels are completely free.

00;12;50;45 - 00;13;08;53
Nick Clason
Both of us are trying to to just get the message in the word out there. And so we want people to at these, be aware of it. But right now we're doing it for primarily for free, right? We're not charging you 400 hours like National Day Training is another couple of ideas is the do I am leader training library.

00;13;08;53 - 00;13;29;07
Nick Clason
So if you're a member of do you. I am I can't remember the tiers who gets access to this but but I know if you're at the highest couple of tiers you get access to a do I am leader training library. So there are videos that you can log into a portal and you can watch video trainings from people like Doug Fields, Josh Griffin and some of their friends over there.

00;13;29;07 - 00;14;09;37
Nick Clason
And they have several of the topics, even several topics that I was was suggesting earlier are available on that podcast site. Another thing that I have submitted content for and I have used is the My Youth Min portal by YM360. I think it's aimed a little bit more at the primary and Central youth worker, but it's a great platform to check out if it's something that you is behind a paywall, but it's got like some topflight people talking about things, people in the trenches, and it's like 19 pieces of new content drop onto that platform every single month.

00;14;09;48 - 00;14;27;55
Nick Clason
And so that's one of the keys about it, is that it is it is dynamic and it is moving. It's not just going to be like a leader training library of static videos that haven't been updated in several years. And so the MYM podcast link down below the description or the show notes, all for all these are links down the description.

00;14;27;55 - 00;15;00;47
Nick Clason
And finally, the idea that I think because things are changing and I don't want another meeting on my calendar and, and you probably don't want another meeting on your calendar, an idea for training either to supplement or to replace some of your in-person meetings is what about creating a podcast on the go right? Like you can you can offer training to your leaders as they're going as they're heading to work, as they're running groceries, as they're picking up kids from school and soccer practice.

00;15;00;52 - 00;15;34;46
Nick Clason
If you create a podcast feed, whether it be a public or a private feed and you just do 5 to 10 minute trainings, you can pick up a pretty easy and cheap microphone. Very similar to this. I'll drop some links down below in the show notes for you to check out. If you want to do video based, you can use your cell phone and you can get up and going and listen If you if you start pre filming your messages like I recommend in my full year strategy anyway, you should have a camera, whether it be a real camera or you just using your phone and you're using my under $100 starter kit to get

00;15;34;46 - 00;16;00;06
Nick Clason
going. You can use that as a way to get some of that training up and going and then you can just start posting it to places. And so if you do audio, you do a podcast feed, if you do video, you do YouTube. But like I said, what I'm trying to think of as I'm trying to ride some of the future waves in some of the future trends, because that's actually what I'm going to be talking about in the very next video, which is going to be linked right here on the screen.

00;16;00;11 - 00;16;21;42
Nick Clason
Carey Nieuwhof in his 2024 trends. It is an amazing article. He's been doing an amazing job. And I know we're several months in now to 2024, but I wanted to do a React video and so check that video out link right here on the screen because we in this podcast are trying to make digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible.

00;16;21;42 - 00;16;25;31
Nick Clason
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๐Ÿค” How do we train our youth and student ministry volunteers?
๐Ÿ“… How frequently should we be training our volunteers?
๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿซ What are some topics?
๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ And what are some platforms you can utilize?

And be sure to stick around to the end because I have an idea that will help you train your volunteers but not add another meeting to your plate
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TRAINING IDEAS
1) Leader vs Friend
2) Managing a Distracted Group
3) Taking Kids Seriously
4) Praying with your small group
5) Gen Z & Gen Alpha

> ### --https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tVACJFlwpw&t=460s

6) Cultural Trends
7) The power of listening
8) Showing up
9) Getting Teens to Serve
10) Partnering with Parents

PLATFORMS
NATIONAL DAY OF VOLUNTEER YOUTH MINISTRY TRAINING
//https://dymtraining.com/ndovymt/

HYBRID MINISTRY YOUTUBE
//https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick

//PRACTICAL YOUTH MINISTRY TIPS
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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00-00:39 Youth Ministry Volunteer Training
00:39-03:22 Why do we need to train volunteers?
03:22-06:59 How often should we train our volunteers?
06:59-11:19 Topics to Train Volunteers in
11:19-16:26 Youth Ministry Training Platforms

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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;23;29
Nick Clason
How do we train our youth ministry volunteers? How frequently should we be offering trainings for our youth ministry volunteers? What are some key topics that our youth ministry and our youth ministry volunteers need to be exploring? And then finally, what are some platforms that you can utilize that you can send them to so that they can sharpen their skills as volunteers?

00;00;23;29 - 00;00;45;52
Nick Clason
And finally, make sure that you hang around all the way to the end of the video, because I have an idea that I think will not only help your volunteers level up, but also is going to not add another meeting to your plate. Well, everyone, welcome to the hybrid ministry show. My name is Nick Clason and I've been a youth pastor for 13 something years.

00;00;45;53 - 00;01;05;46
Nick Clason
And because of that, you've got to think about a youth ministry, has a lot of things that feel a little bit unnatural. Like let's just say, for example, I was a volunteer in your youth ministry and let's say I walked in for the very first time and you told me, Hey, listen, just go like, go hang out and love on teenagers.

00;01;05;51 - 00;01;35;02
Nick Clason
Like, I would probably as a 13 year youth ministry veteran, I would probably be okay and figure out how to do that. Now, if a brand new dad or mom or college student walks in and you give them those exact same instructions, they're probably not going to know what to do. For one of the reasons simply being because they are told all throughout society and culture not to do that.

00;01;35;02 - 00;01;57;06
Nick Clason
And so in a lot of ways, youth ministry is kind of creepy, right? And so we have to help A, give them the comfort and safety to do some of those things, but be help teach them in love with them on how they can do that safely and appropriately, and that it is good youth ministry for them to to go hang out with teenagers and not just be a chaperon.

00;01;57;09 - 00;02;19;47
Nick Clason
But I say that to say because you need to help sharpen their skills. You have to help level them up. Some of the things that you and I do as youth pastors, youth leaders, we already do these things naturally, but we need to level up. We need to train our volunteers. And if if one of the roles that we're trying to use have them hang out with students, well then, hey, was.

00;02;19;47 - 00;02;50;11
Nick Clason
And we should probably give them opportunities to do that. That's why I actually I created this completely free e-book. If you look through it, it's 40 ideas, a month's worth of posting content, but it's not just a bunch of still and static graphics. What it actually is, is it's teaching you in training you not only how to prerecord your messages to post them on YouTube so that you are showing up in a digital and a hybrid space on a platform where students are spending 95% or 94% of students are spending some of their time.

00;02;50;23 - 00;03;11;28
Nick Clason
But also then it will let you, your students and your leaders do things and work together on camera. Different challenges, different different games and things like that. And so that's going to be a great opportunity for your students and your leaders to start to rub shoulders. And you can kill two birds with one stone by crushing it for social media.

00;03;11;33 - 00;03;51;07
Nick Clason
How frequently should we as youth pastors and youth ministry leaders, how frequently should we be hosting trainings? Well, let's talk about that in the next video. Suffering. We should be hosting trainings. There are several schools of thought and there are a couple of different ways to think about it. First of all, every single time you meet, you may be having some sort of huddle and I would recommend some sort of thing around that, some sort of, you know, strategy of around meeting, getting everyone on the same page, giving everyone the service order service brunch sheet so that they have what they need so that they're they're not in a lurch for that night.

00;03;51;12 - 00;04;17;01
Nick Clason
However, that can give a little bit cumbersome and especially if it's like on a Wednesday night, you may be running into volunteers and they're getting off of work schedule. And so one thing that I have done in the past is instead of doing a weekly huddle, I've done more of like a monthly gathering, monthly huddle. And then that monthly gathering would not only operate as a weekly huddle to get everyone on the same page and talk to them about what we're teaching and sharing in our small group.

00;04;17;01 - 00;04;47;30
Nick Clason
But then it would also give me a moment to do some teambuilding as well as some training. And so that was sort of be a strategy to do that. But let me just say that one time, one year I was doing a monthly huddle, I shifted from a weekly huddle to a monthly huddle. And in my monthly huddle, one thing that felt like all I can explain is the feeling was myself in many of my volunteers every single time, when it was time for another huddle, they'd be like again, rather just felt like it was all the time.

00;04;47;30 - 00;05;05;09
Nick Clason
Felt was constantly something that we were turn around and doing like, we got another one of those again. yeah, that's right. It's been a month, right? And so there may be a rhythm and you just got to figure this out. What works for you? Because a monthly huddle is often probably something you have to do in an off peak time.

00;05;05;09 - 00;05;26;42
Nick Clason
So it's Sunday after church or it's Wednesday late after one of your Wednesday nights or something like that. But it's not going to be tied to and woven in to your already existing youth ministry schedule. And so you just you got to figure out when can you get all of your volunteers to commit to another moment on their calendar in their week.

00;05;26;56 - 00;06;06;27
Nick Clason
And then another idea within that is how frequently are you going to be communicating? So while you do have meetings, there are going to be infrequent or not infrequent, but but different types of communication. So things like group text messages and or emails, how frequently, how often are you going to be also sending those things? I personally I recommend weekly, so a weekly sort of communication email and then another like another form of gathering, whether that be a an annual meeting, which I haven't said yet, but that's an idea, an annual meeting, a one time meeting, whether it's twice a year, you get together for a big sort of thing, whether it's a monthly sort

00;06;06;27 - 00;06;24;42
Nick Clason
of leader gathering or some sort of weekly huddle. Now every single one of those scenarios, your training is going to have to look a little bit different. If you do annually, you probably can do a big seminar type style thing. You can probably do that if you meet twice a year. If you do monthly, you might need to make it a little more bite sized.

00;06;24;42 - 00;06;52;11
Nick Clason
Not so long, not so so many hours of a commitment. And if you meet weekly, you got to be more in like the tips and tactics zone and all those to be said. You can also share some tips and tactics to level up youth ministry training in your weekly communications via text via email. Now, you might be thinking like, okay, I see the need for this and I realize I need to figure out where I'm going to stick it on my calendar.

00;06;52;15 - 00;07;18;57
Nick Clason
But what in the world should I be talking about? Great. Let's let's talk through that in the next section. All right. Some good topics. And these are just suggestions and examples. And and if something pops up in some particular area or arena in your student ministry, then address it by all means. Right. But if you are like I know I want to me and only to help level my leaders off, but I don't even know where to start then.

00;07;19;10 - 00;07;41;38
Nick Clason
Then there's give me a list right here on the screen. If you are listening, you can head to the show notes, HybridMinistry.xyz/085 Also, if you do end up over on YouTube, be sure to give us a subscribe and a like because these topics we don't want only you to have them. We want all the youth pastors in America to know them, to have them, and to be able to turn to them in a time of need.

00;07;41;38 - 00;08;05;31
Nick Clason
But some topics that I have done or have seen or I just think can be useful. I have ten right here. Screenshot them. This could if you do a monthly gathering, this could essentially fill out your monthly training calendar for for the year. Right. One per month. So the first one is how do you distinguish between a leader versus being a friend of the students.

00;08;05;36 - 00;08;22;37
Nick Clason
You can also then chat through in another month managing a distracted group. We've all been there. We've all led a group that's distracted, especially the sixth grade boys group. How do you get them on task and what is a win for them? How do you take kids seriously? A lot of times we want to come in. We want to tell them what to do.

00;08;22;37 - 00;08;44;54
Nick Clason
But how do we take their needs, their concerns, their thoughts, their ideas, their their the things that they say? How do we take them seriously so that we can add and bring value to who they are as people? How do you pray with your small group? What are some practical ideas beyond just praying to close? But how can you be praying as a small group and be a praying small group together?

00;08;44;58 - 00;09;02;52
Nick Clason
Maybe do a little training on Gen Z and Gen Alpha? I actually have a video links right here at the top of the screen about Gen Alpha, exploring who they are and what we need to know. So maybe you could go watch that and that could be the springboard for some of your content. What are some cultural trends right these days that are going on?

00;09;03;01 - 00;09;23;21
Nick Clason
You should be thinking like, what? What's what's culturally relevant right now and how can we take those trends and how can we chat through? Some of them especially have a a team of adults. They're not living in teen culture anymore, so help expose them to some of those things that maybe even you need to do a little bit of study, a little bit of research on, but help expose them to some of those things.

00;09;23;26 - 00;09;56;11
Nick Clason
What about the power of listening? You know that it's not good for a small group leader to be in there and to just be yammer on the whole time. So help help challenge them, help challenge your small group leaders to listen first and talk second. What about the power of showing up helping, as we talked about in the last video in this youth ministry Master Class 2024 playlist as we talked about scaling up the care for leaders, shepherding you can you can spread out some of those responsibilities if if a small group leader shows up to a kid's soccer game, not only does that get you off the hook and I'm not saying that you

00;09;56;11 - 00;10;17;17
Nick Clason
should be trying to get off the hook of these things, but if you have 100 kids to get to soccer games for, that's going to be tricky for you to get to a hundred different soccer games. But your youth ministry volunteers can also show up to the kids in their small group, getting teens to serve, helping, helping equip small group leaders to to be recruiters and helping teenagers step into their God given callings and abilities.

00;10;17;17 - 00;10;40;49
Nick Clason
And finally, how do you partner with parents? Give smokable leaders tangible tips and tricks and tools to be able to reach out to parents? Very simply, something like do they have all the email lists? And if they don't, do they have access to get all the email lists? Have you allowed them to be a member of your church management software to at least be able to get in and access the group information?

00;10;41;00 - 00;11;00;13
Nick Clason
So those are just some topic ideas. It's not holistic, it's not exhaustive, but they're just ten ideas to help you begin to think about training. I remember thinking, Do I do that? Do I do you know one of those topics in a monthly gathering? Do I cram some of them together in an annual gathering? Do I weave some of them in and out of my communication?

00;11;00;18 - 00;11;38;48
Nick Clason
The answer to that is it's up to you. You guys figure out what's going to work best for you, but I do have in the next section several platforms that you can explore and look at and maybe even try to train and level up some of your youth ministry volunteers. So hey, let's go check that out. So from a once a year from an annual sort of perspective, there is no better option honestly than the NDOVYMT, which is an abbreviation for the National Day of Volunteer Youth Ministry training put on hosted by my friends over a download Youth Ministry, Josh Griffin, Doug Fields and their team.

00;11;38;52 - 00;12;09;11
Nick Clason
There is a link down in the description or head over to the show notes for our train. My volunteers Scott, which will give you info and insight into how to sign up for one of these things. The fact is the pricing is very, very cheap for training your entire team. It's only $250. If you want to be a host church or have other churches come to your church as a host, church is $400, but you get to bring as many people, as many volunteers to that training as possible.

00;12;09;11 - 00;12;30;15
Nick Clason
Plus, it's all video based. And so you get that video for the entire year. Even if you don't play the full video, you can kind of clip it up and use it throughout the year. Another platform idea platform idea number two is honestly this YouTube channel, right? Like I am focusing on helping Mel between the digital and the physical and bringing those things together.

00;12;30;15 - 00;12;50;45
Nick Clason
But I also have a lot of like just generalize youth ministry content so you could check out my youth ministry channel idea number three, you can help. You can check out the Practical Youth Ministry Tips podcast. My friend Eric with the K Williams, he is dropping gold all day long over on his channel as well. So both of our channels are completely free.

00;12;50;45 - 00;13;08;53
Nick Clason
Both of us are trying to to just get the message in the word out there. And so we want people to at these, be aware of it. But right now we're doing it for primarily for free, right? We're not charging you 400 hours like National Day Training is another couple of ideas is the do I am leader training library.

00;13;08;53 - 00;13;29;07
Nick Clason
So if you're a member of do you. I am I can't remember the tiers who gets access to this but but I know if you're at the highest couple of tiers you get access to a do I am leader training library. So there are videos that you can log into a portal and you can watch video trainings from people like Doug Fields, Josh Griffin and some of their friends over there.

00;13;29;07 - 00;14;09;37
Nick Clason
And they have several of the topics, even several topics that I was was suggesting earlier are available on that podcast site. Another thing that I have submitted content for and I have used is the My Youth Min portal by YM360. I think it's aimed a little bit more at the primary and Central youth worker, but it's a great platform to check out if it's something that you is behind a paywall, but it's got like some topflight people talking about things, people in the trenches, and it's like 19 pieces of new content drop onto that platform every single month.

00;14;09;48 - 00;14;27;55
Nick Clason
And so that's one of the keys about it, is that it is it is dynamic and it is moving. It's not just going to be like a leader training library of static videos that haven't been updated in several years. And so the MYM podcast link down below the description or the show notes, all for all these are links down the description.

00;14;27;55 - 00;15;00;47
Nick Clason
And finally, the idea that I think because things are changing and I don't want another meeting on my calendar and, and you probably don't want another meeting on your calendar, an idea for training either to supplement or to replace some of your in-person meetings is what about creating a podcast on the go right? Like you can you can offer training to your leaders as they're going as they're heading to work, as they're running groceries, as they're picking up kids from school and soccer practice.

00;15;00;52 - 00;15;34;46
Nick Clason
If you create a podcast feed, whether it be a public or a private feed and you just do 5 to 10 minute trainings, you can pick up a pretty easy and cheap microphone. Very similar to this. I'll drop some links down below in the show notes for you to check out. If you want to do video based, you can use your cell phone and you can get up and going and listen If you if you start pre filming your messages like I recommend in my full year strategy anyway, you should have a camera, whether it be a real camera or you just using your phone and you're using my under $100 starter kit to get

00;15;34;46 - 00;16;00;06
Nick Clason
going. You can use that as a way to get some of that training up and going and then you can just start posting it to places. And so if you do audio, you do a podcast feed, if you do video, you do YouTube. But like I said, what I'm trying to think of as I'm trying to ride some of the future waves in some of the future trends, because that's actually what I'm going to be talking about in the very next video, which is going to be linked right here on the screen.

00;16;00;11 - 00;16;21;42
Nick Clason
Carey Nieuwhof in his 2024 trends. It is an amazing article. He's been doing an amazing job. And I know we're several months in now to 2024, but I wanted to do a React video and so check that video out link right here on the screen because we in this podcast are trying to make digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible.

00;16;21;42 - 00;16;25;31
Nick Clason
And so, as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 084: ๐Ÿค Recruiting (and Retaining) The Best Volunteers https://www.hybridministry.xyz/084 d83dd5dc-aa32-43b5-ae2b-2fee0673dd01 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 04:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 084 ๐Ÿค Recruiting (and Retaining) The Best Volunteers full Nick Clason ๐Ÿ›Ÿ The life-line of all good student ministry is adult volunteer leaders. ๐Ÿคท So much so, Are we even needed? Eventually, hopefully not! ๐Ÿ‡ทLetโ€™s dive into the 3 โ€œRโ€™sโ€ of volunteers 17:27 no โšก [FREE] Digital Integration Strategyโšก https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg [FREE] DYM Games https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/9-best-dym-products ====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐Ÿ›Ÿ The life-line of all good student ministry is adult volunteer leaders. ๐Ÿคท So much so, Are we even needed? 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Leaders, Right. Like so much So you might even ask the question, am I even needed? I mean, eventually, Hopefully. No, because you've raised these leaders up in such a way that they're competent and can do the job without you. 00:00:24:24 - 00:00:46:01 Nick Clason We've talked deeply in the last episode about the philosophy and the reasons behind having good volunteer youth leaders. It's our last video to enjoy the top of the screen. But in this video, we're going to round out and I'm going to give you the three R's of volunteers recruitment. And I have a full proof email, so stick around to see that the roles that you can enlist them into. 00:00:46:01 - 00:01:06:26 Nick Clason And finally, stick around all the way to the very end of the video because the third and final R is retention. And if you lay out a good foundation and if you actually stick to the plan with retention, you won't ever have to be recruiting again. Sound too good to be true? Let's check it out. So the first R in volunteerism is recruitment. 00:01:06:27 - 00:01:29:26 Nick Clason Always be recruiting. Now you might be thinking to yourself, Well, where in the world do I even find them coming below the best places to find volunteers in your church? I mean, just think about the places that you frequent. Maybe it's your or your wife's or your families or your children's Sunday school classes. So perhaps you have a kid. 00:01:29:26 - 00:02:00:11 Nick Clason They have a Sunday school class, another kids parents in that Sunday school class, maybe a small group that you're in or that you lead. As you get to do life with people, you'll notice more about them and you'll be looking for certain qualities or attributes. I mean, one of the best things that you need to do is you need to realize that anyone can do youth ministry, but you're probably not going to find people who come to you and say, I am so super passionate about youth ministry and they look the part and they're cool and they have piercings and they have tattoos. 00:02:00:11 - 00:02:29:07 Nick Clason Like you'll get one or two of those. But like you also have to be willing to recruit the moms. You have to be willing to recruit the over 55 year old, almost retired men. You have to be willing to recruit like the homeschool dad, like the people that don't exactly look the part. But if they love Jesus and if they can tolerate teenagers, then they're in a good spot to be a youth volunteer and just ask. 00:02:29:08 - 00:02:50:06 Nick Clason I remember I was coaching one of my kids flag football teams and while I was coaching the team, it was still a church. I was coaching the team, one of the moms on the team. She we had two coaches in there on the field and she kept making her way over to the sidelines and she's like, I just love helping out and being around the kids. 00:02:50:07 - 00:03:07:23 Nick Clason Is it okay if I do this? Like she wasn't officially a coach? None of that stuff. And so we were like, Yeah, that's great because the kids are just while an hour over there on the sidelines. We needed all the help that we could get. And so her being on the sidelines immediately, like trigger my brain, I was like, I'm going to ask her. 00:03:07:24 - 00:03:28:25 Nick Clason And so one day I had a leader drop off like a leader call me and say, Hey, I can't do it anymore. I was dropping my son off at preschool, and this mom also is dropping her kids off at the same preschool through the church, which I had never seen her do that before. And immediately in my brain, I felt the Holy Spirit say, Ask her. 00:03:28:27 - 00:03:51:07 Nick Clason And I had to do the digging because I had to like I didn't know her name right. So I knew the kids names from the fly football team. So I found the kids in our church, you know, database. And then I found her as the mom, and then I just shot her an email. And I'm gonna share with you that imagery just so you might be thinking, okay, I think think through all the different pools that you have and I get it. 00:03:51:07 - 00:04:11:19 Nick Clason You might be like, I don't I don't have any like at that point, start asking like, ask other other people that, you know, who do you know, who can I ask Who's in your small group? Who's who's someone who's just friendly? Right. And one of the things I like to do is I'm like, they may not have the soft youth ministry skills yet, but if they have a teachable spirit, we can level them up in youth ministry. 00:04:11:19 - 00:04:31:06 Nick Clason And we're going to talk about in the third and final hour on retention. But how do you ask a volunteer leader? Right. So I have this this email that I've drafted. I am going to share it with you. If you're watching on YouTube, it's going to be linked right here on the screen if you're watching on YouTube, but you're dropping these now on Wednesday morning so you can listen to them on your way into the office. 00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:08 Nick Clason You can listen to them while you're setting up for youth ministry. If you're listening via the podcast feed, we're going to continue to drop them on Thursday morning. So you get a little bit of a bonus day if you're watching, subscribing and consuming these via YouTube. So for free, check us out there at YouTube.com slash clay cynic or just search hybrid ministry in the YouTube search bar but the leader recruitment email goes like this dear fill in their name. 00:04:58:10 - 00:05:18:05 Nick Clason I think that you could be uniquely positioned to be a great volunteer in our student ministry. Now before you laugh, archive this email and just think that I'm full of hot air. Take a minute to think about this. Did you know that two thirds of adult Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18? 00:05:18:08 - 00:05:39:25 Nick Clason This statistic alone is the reason why I do what I do and investing in the next generation. However, while you may not feel equipped, qualified or ready, I'd like to point out that God uses people like that. The underequipped, the under-qualified, and the not ready to further His kingdom every day. All throughout the pages of Scripture, Moses was a murderer. 00:05:39:28 - 00:06:09:16 Nick Clason Jonah ran the other way. Peter was uneducated and Paul was a self-righteous bigot. Now, here's what I consider a qualification for student ministry. Love Jesus. And like teenagers, Borrow that from my friend Doug Fields. If you can check these two boxes off, then I think you have what it takes to join our team. I love to sit over a cup of coffee and discuss this idea with you a little bit more in depth, and maybe we could grab a quick phone call to chat about it. 00:06:09:19 - 00:06:35:09 Nick Clason Give me a call or shoot me text if you'd like to do that. Signed your name. That email alone has drummed up a lot of interest in recruiting new volunteers. And when I was working at a large multisite megachurch in Chicago, I needed to do a lot of kind of cold call style emails, so I'd get names of people I'd never heard of, never met, and I would send them that email to at least sparked conversation and in a lot of cases I would get responses, but not always. 00:06:35:09 - 00:06:54:02 Nick Clason And so if I didn't get a response out of reach back out via text or call just a couple of weeks later and say, Hey, I sent you an email, I'm just curious if you've given that email any more thought. So I love the line in that email. Two thirds of Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18. 00:06:54:03 - 00:07:13:03 Nick Clason If you knew that you owe me a subscribe, and if you did it then then hit me like, right. Because what we're doing, like I says, we're dropping this this video one day before the podcast drops. All right. So that statistic alone is why I do what I do. The final thing after how to ask him is how do you onboard them right. 00:07:13:06 - 00:07:33:10 Nick Clason So once this preliminary conversation has taken place, it's conversation number one. You're going to have to kind of streams of volunteer in intake, right? You may be thinking I need to recruit. And if that's the case, then by all means do it. But in some other cases you may get names to like a volunteer interest form or someone telling you, Hey, you should talk to John. 00:07:33:11 - 00:07:57:26 Nick Clason Okay. So in that case, if someone else is giving you a name or if they're filling out a form on your website, you need to have a preliminary conversation with them. You need to sit down and find a way to to to kind of vet them just a little bit, not thoroughly and not like FBI style, but just a little bit of like get to know them, get to know their story and discover their reason for why they want to do youth ministry. 00:07:57:27 - 00:08:19:05 Nick Clason Because while you may be excited about just a random name coming into you from the website, you also have to make sure that you're not enlisting somebody who might be an abuser or a pedophile or some weirdo because as we said earlier, people are just not naturally drawn to being a youth leader volunteer. So someone does say that they are just out of the clear blue sky. 00:08:19:07 - 00:08:43:06 Nick Clason Just do a tiny little bit of homework. So once that first conversation, that first screening conversation is done, then you need to enter them into whatever your church's safety screening process is. After they've gone through their safety screening process, whether that be a background check, taking some sexual abuse awareness classes or somewhere in between the two of those, you need to find a time to enlist them for a first serve. 00:08:43:07 - 00:09:05:14 Nick Clason Now, the way that we sort of do it is like we have our background check and that lets them get in the room for a first serve because sometimes some of that additional sexual abuse awareness training is a lot. And so we get them in the room shadowed with someone who's already cleared and screened, but they can get a feel for youth ministry also to kind of just like strike while the iron is hot. 00:09:05:14 - 00:09:21:07 Nick Clason You don't want that lead to go cold, so you don't want someone who says they're interested and then you not give them an opportunity to come serve. So give them a first serve. Once that first serve is over, have a clearing clarifying conversation with them. I typically like to do it the same day or the same night of their first serve. 00:09:21:13 - 00:09:44:22 Nick Clason Hey, would you think what do you think in killing begin to kind of pursue this in this direction unless they give you some sort of like big red flag of like, I don't know, man, that's really was Wow. That really wasn't for me. I would try to find a way to start enlisting them that night, make sure that they are finishing up any of their remaining screenings before you make them an official part of your team. 00:09:44:24 - 00:10:07:28 Nick Clason But then once they have done all those things, once they've done that first serve and they've had that clarifying conversation, get them into an on board situation and do it as quickly as you can see. I think a lot of times we say we want volunteers, but then we're too busy to actually engage with them in meaningfully bring them along so that they feel loved, valued, cared for and that their time is not being wasted. 00:10:08:01 - 00:10:31:17 Nick Clason So let's move on. Now that we've talked about recruiting, what are the roles that you're recruiting them into? All right. So rule number one is this small group leader. We talked about it at length in the last video, but the lead small book written by the folks down at Orange is, I believe, one of the best pictures of what it means to simply be a small group leader. 00:10:31:17 - 00:10:48:28 Nick Clason It is clear. It is concise. Any one of us could have written it, but we didn't. And so they get the credit for it because they did the work. But it is a great manual for what a small group leader is pouring into and investing into the lives of just a few students that God has entrusted into their care. 00:10:49:00 - 00:11:11:13 Nick Clason I think a lot of times when we think small group leader or when we think youth ministry leader, we think they need to be leading a small group. And when you think through the wide swath of different volunteers that you might need, you might not need every single person that says they're interested to become a volunteer small group leader. 00:11:11:13 - 00:11:41:17 Nick Clason If you think homeschool mom, if you think 55 and older guy, like there might be some other roles in your youth ministry. In fact, we in our studio miss you. We like to use these other roles as a little bit of a feeling out time for both of us, so we get to enlist them into another role that's not directly in the spiritual care and direction of a student, but one that we get to see them, see their faithfulness if they're actually coming to the job. 00:11:41:20 - 00:11:57:12 Nick Clason And then we also get to know them, because if they're not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, and if you're also not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, you can have a conversation with them. I remember there is a a leader at church I worked at and she was enlisted as one of our safety people. 00:11:57:12 - 00:12:25:02 Nick Clason She was a police officer and she was a safety person and she was in the back of the room as she was kind of doing her thing. This wasn't on any of our sort of radars with it, but she was doing her thing. She actually came up. She's like, Hey, could I do that? Like instead of safety? And you see how like just being a part of the hospitality team in some way, shape or form being part of it, it initiated her thought process to kind of like say that might be something that I am also interested. 00:12:25:02 - 00:12:45:08 Nick Clason So some of the roles that we use hospitality, so that's getting things set up, that's greeters at check in, that's saying hey to students, first time students, help them fill out gas cards, all that type of stuff. There's safety. Like I mentioned, and you may have a plan for that from like a hiring in an officer type of thing. 00:12:45:08 - 00:13:03:22 Nick Clason Or if not, if you're too small of a church, then you need to hire a couple, maybe volunteers, to sort of oversee it, keep eyes on dark spaces in the church, you know, keep an eye on bathrooms. Just make sure that there are an additional set of eyes on everything, because you know that as programing it's going. You got a lot on your mind, a lot on your plate. 00:13:03:24 - 00:13:20:24 Nick Clason And so some of the last things on your mind is checking to make sure that back in that back closet there aren't two kids making out in this is safety person to do that that will help you know give you an additional like set of eyes so that you can see and know what's going on without seeing and knowing every single thing that's going on. 00:13:20:26 - 00:13:45:14 Nick Clason You may have a cafe I don't love like cafes from like the selling standpoint, having to source food, but I do love having a cafe because it gives it gives leaders an actual meaningful task to do that. We can place them in in sort of like a first step kind of role before we move them. If I if I don't know this person at all before we move them into a small group leader type role. 00:13:45:17 - 00:14:14:17 Nick Clason And then, you know, depending on your set in your format, I was in a church that did decentralized host homes. And so we had groups meeting all throughout the city and all sorts of different houses. Your host home volunteers are a great pool of people and a great place. You can send some people so they may not be ready yet to be small group leader every single week, but they may be willing to create a warm, welcoming, inviting kind of atmosphere in a host home situation. 00:14:14:19 - 00:14:42:07 Nick Clason The third and final or in our list is retention. So retention is how do you keep these volunteers now that you have them? So the first thing that you need to be doing is you need to be checking in with your volunteers frequently. Now, I hear you might be thinking, I don't have very much time. Listen, as a part of this 2024 on Main Masterclass, the very first video was how to manage your time and how to get more stuff done. 00:14:42:12 - 00:15:11:24 Nick Clason I would recommend that you take a look at that because when you implement some of those processes, you will find that you have more time than you think you do. And once you realize that you can start budgeting for and scheduling conversations, relationships, lunches, coffee appointments with some of your leaders, and it's important to do that because you just have an opportunity to sit down, have a conversation with leaders, get to know them, and let them know that like you're there and they have a place that they can turn to. 00:15:11:25 - 00:15:41:08 Nick Clason Now, if you have 50, 7500 volunteers, then that's too much for you and that's where you need to probably implement some sort of coaching structure, some sort of additional layer where there's another person kind of put in that place to help be that for you. Again, similar to the safety team, somebody who can just be an additional hand, additional shepherd, additional person to help you care for the leaders in your student ministry. 00:15:41:10 - 00:16:04:00 Nick Clason What about relationships? Like how are you building your relationship, your rapport with these leaders, Hang out with them in a casual environment. It doesn't always have to be a formalized like meeting sit down with an agenda and three points to get through. Just who are you hanging out with your leaders? If you're hanging out with your leaders, I told you my last video about a guy named Steve that I enlisted. 00:16:04:02 - 00:16:24:03 Nick Clason I enlisted him to be a seventh grade boy, Smoggy Peter, which in that church, seventh grade was the earliest the youngest age that we had for our students. He still to this day, they are now seniors. He still to this day is a small group leader for them. But I haven't been in that space since like eighth grade of those kids year. 00:16:24:03 - 00:16:44:06 Nick Clason So. So he stayed all through high school all throughout COVID. Mind you all after my relationship with him left. But because I built a rapport with him, he stuck for that. And then he got hooked and he stuck and he stayed. Finally, think about appreciation. Do you leaders know that you care about them? Do you give them moments? 00:16:44:08 - 00:17:01:29 Nick Clason Do you give them tokens of appreciation? Does it have to be a big budget buster? But I remember I talked to a youth leader one time who she said all she was doing was just a pristine, like just the mess out of her volunteers. And she asked one of her volunteers one time like, Do you feel appreciated or why? 00:17:01:29 - 00:17:24:27 Nick Clason Why do people like serving in students? 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00:00 The Life Line for all Youth Pastors
01:02 Finding the Best Volunteers
04:48 Full Proof Recruiting Email
10:06 Not Everybody is a Small Group Leader
14:01 Never Recruit Again with Good Retention

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:24:22
Nick Clason
If you've been in youth ministry for any length of time, then you know that the lifeline for any good youth ministry is a Dole volunteer. Leaders, Right. Like so much So you might even ask the question, am I even needed? I mean, eventually, Hopefully. No, because you've raised these leaders up in such a way that they're competent and can do the job without you.

00:00:24:24 - 00:00:46:01
Nick Clason
We've talked deeply in the last episode about the philosophy and the reasons behind having good volunteer youth leaders. It's our last video to enjoy the top of the screen. But in this video, we're going to round out and I'm going to give you the three R's of volunteers recruitment. And I have a full proof email, so stick around to see that the roles that you can enlist them into.

00:00:46:01 - 00:01:06:26
Nick Clason
And finally, stick around all the way to the very end of the video because the third and final R is retention. And if you lay out a good foundation and if you actually stick to the plan with retention, you won't ever have to be recruiting again. Sound too good to be true? Let's check it out. So the first R in volunteerism is recruitment.

00:01:06:27 - 00:01:29:26
Nick Clason
Always be recruiting. Now you might be thinking to yourself, Well, where in the world do I even find them coming below the best places to find volunteers in your church? I mean, just think about the places that you frequent. Maybe it's your or your wife's or your families or your children's Sunday school classes. So perhaps you have a kid.

00:01:29:26 - 00:02:00:11
Nick Clason
They have a Sunday school class, another kids parents in that Sunday school class, maybe a small group that you're in or that you lead. As you get to do life with people, you'll notice more about them and you'll be looking for certain qualities or attributes. I mean, one of the best things that you need to do is you need to realize that anyone can do youth ministry, but you're probably not going to find people who come to you and say, I am so super passionate about youth ministry and they look the part and they're cool and they have piercings and they have tattoos.

00:02:00:11 - 00:02:29:07
Nick Clason
Like you'll get one or two of those. But like you also have to be willing to recruit the moms. You have to be willing to recruit the over 55 year old, almost retired men. You have to be willing to recruit like the homeschool dad, like the people that don't exactly look the part. But if they love Jesus and if they can tolerate teenagers, then they're in a good spot to be a youth volunteer and just ask.

00:02:29:08 - 00:02:50:06
Nick Clason
I remember I was coaching one of my kids flag football teams and while I was coaching the team, it was still a church. I was coaching the team, one of the moms on the team. She we had two coaches in there on the field and she kept making her way over to the sidelines and she's like, I just love helping out and being around the kids.

00:02:50:07 - 00:03:07:23
Nick Clason
Is it okay if I do this? Like she wasn't officially a coach? None of that stuff. And so we were like, Yeah, that's great because the kids are just while an hour over there on the sidelines. We needed all the help that we could get. And so her being on the sidelines immediately, like trigger my brain, I was like, I'm going to ask her.

00:03:07:24 - 00:03:28:25
Nick Clason
And so one day I had a leader drop off like a leader call me and say, Hey, I can't do it anymore. I was dropping my son off at preschool, and this mom also is dropping her kids off at the same preschool through the church, which I had never seen her do that before. And immediately in my brain, I felt the Holy Spirit say, Ask her.

00:03:28:27 - 00:03:51:07
Nick Clason
And I had to do the digging because I had to like I didn't know her name right. So I knew the kids names from the fly football team. So I found the kids in our church, you know, database. And then I found her as the mom, and then I just shot her an email. And I'm gonna share with you that imagery just so you might be thinking, okay, I think think through all the different pools that you have and I get it.

00:03:51:07 - 00:04:11:19
Nick Clason
You might be like, I don't I don't have any like at that point, start asking like, ask other other people that, you know, who do you know, who can I ask Who's in your small group? Who's who's someone who's just friendly? Right. And one of the things I like to do is I'm like, they may not have the soft youth ministry skills yet, but if they have a teachable spirit, we can level them up in youth ministry.

00:04:11:19 - 00:04:31:06
Nick Clason
And we're going to talk about in the third and final hour on retention. But how do you ask a volunteer leader? Right. So I have this this email that I've drafted. I am going to share it with you. If you're watching on YouTube, it's going to be linked right here on the screen if you're watching on YouTube, but you're dropping these now on Wednesday morning so you can listen to them on your way into the office.

00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:08
Nick Clason
You can listen to them while you're setting up for youth ministry. If you're listening via the podcast feed, we're going to continue to drop them on Thursday morning. So you get a little bit of a bonus day if you're watching, subscribing and consuming these via YouTube. So for free, check us out there at YouTube.com slash clay cynic or just search hybrid ministry in the YouTube search bar but the leader recruitment email goes like this dear fill in their name.

00:04:58:10 - 00:05:18:05
Nick Clason
I think that you could be uniquely positioned to be a great volunteer in our student ministry. Now before you laugh, archive this email and just think that I'm full of hot air. Take a minute to think about this. Did you know that two thirds of adult Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18?

00:05:18:08 - 00:05:39:25
Nick Clason
This statistic alone is the reason why I do what I do and investing in the next generation. However, while you may not feel equipped, qualified or ready, I'd like to point out that God uses people like that. The underequipped, the under-qualified, and the not ready to further His kingdom every day. All throughout the pages of Scripture, Moses was a murderer.

00:05:39:28 - 00:06:09:16
Nick Clason
Jonah ran the other way. Peter was uneducated and Paul was a self-righteous bigot. Now, here's what I consider a qualification for student ministry. Love Jesus. And like teenagers, Borrow that from my friend Doug Fields. If you can check these two boxes off, then I think you have what it takes to join our team. I love to sit over a cup of coffee and discuss this idea with you a little bit more in depth, and maybe we could grab a quick phone call to chat about it.

00:06:09:19 - 00:06:35:09
Nick Clason
Give me a call or shoot me text if you'd like to do that. Signed your name. That email alone has drummed up a lot of interest in recruiting new volunteers. And when I was working at a large multisite megachurch in Chicago, I needed to do a lot of kind of cold call style emails, so I'd get names of people I'd never heard of, never met, and I would send them that email to at least sparked conversation and in a lot of cases I would get responses, but not always.

00:06:35:09 - 00:06:54:02
Nick Clason
And so if I didn't get a response out of reach back out via text or call just a couple of weeks later and say, Hey, I sent you an email, I'm just curious if you've given that email any more thought. So I love the line in that email. Two thirds of Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18.

00:06:54:03 - 00:07:13:03
Nick Clason
If you knew that you owe me a subscribe, and if you did it then then hit me like, right. Because what we're doing, like I says, we're dropping this this video one day before the podcast drops. All right. So that statistic alone is why I do what I do. The final thing after how to ask him is how do you onboard them right.

00:07:13:06 - 00:07:33:10
Nick Clason
So once this preliminary conversation has taken place, it's conversation number one. You're going to have to kind of streams of volunteer in intake, right? You may be thinking I need to recruit. And if that's the case, then by all means do it. But in some other cases you may get names to like a volunteer interest form or someone telling you, Hey, you should talk to John.

00:07:33:11 - 00:07:57:26
Nick Clason
Okay. So in that case, if someone else is giving you a name or if they're filling out a form on your website, you need to have a preliminary conversation with them. You need to sit down and find a way to to to kind of vet them just a little bit, not thoroughly and not like FBI style, but just a little bit of like get to know them, get to know their story and discover their reason for why they want to do youth ministry.

00:07:57:27 - 00:08:19:05
Nick Clason
Because while you may be excited about just a random name coming into you from the website, you also have to make sure that you're not enlisting somebody who might be an abuser or a pedophile or some weirdo because as we said earlier, people are just not naturally drawn to being a youth leader volunteer. So someone does say that they are just out of the clear blue sky.

00:08:19:07 - 00:08:43:06
Nick Clason
Just do a tiny little bit of homework. So once that first conversation, that first screening conversation is done, then you need to enter them into whatever your church's safety screening process is. After they've gone through their safety screening process, whether that be a background check, taking some sexual abuse awareness classes or somewhere in between the two of those, you need to find a time to enlist them for a first serve.

00:08:43:07 - 00:09:05:14
Nick Clason
Now, the way that we sort of do it is like we have our background check and that lets them get in the room for a first serve because sometimes some of that additional sexual abuse awareness training is a lot. And so we get them in the room shadowed with someone who's already cleared and screened, but they can get a feel for youth ministry also to kind of just like strike while the iron is hot.

00:09:05:14 - 00:09:21:07
Nick Clason
You don't want that lead to go cold, so you don't want someone who says they're interested and then you not give them an opportunity to come serve. So give them a first serve. Once that first serve is over, have a clearing clarifying conversation with them. I typically like to do it the same day or the same night of their first serve.

00:09:21:13 - 00:09:44:22
Nick Clason
Hey, would you think what do you think in killing begin to kind of pursue this in this direction unless they give you some sort of like big red flag of like, I don't know, man, that's really was Wow. That really wasn't for me. I would try to find a way to start enlisting them that night, make sure that they are finishing up any of their remaining screenings before you make them an official part of your team.

00:09:44:24 - 00:10:07:28
Nick Clason
But then once they have done all those things, once they've done that first serve and they've had that clarifying conversation, get them into an on board situation and do it as quickly as you can see. I think a lot of times we say we want volunteers, but then we're too busy to actually engage with them in meaningfully bring them along so that they feel loved, valued, cared for and that their time is not being wasted.

00:10:08:01 - 00:10:31:17
Nick Clason
So let's move on. Now that we've talked about recruiting, what are the roles that you're recruiting them into? All right. So rule number one is this small group leader. We talked about it at length in the last video, but the lead small book written by the folks down at Orange is, I believe, one of the best pictures of what it means to simply be a small group leader.

00:10:31:17 - 00:10:48:28
Nick Clason
It is clear. It is concise. Any one of us could have written it, but we didn't. And so they get the credit for it because they did the work. But it is a great manual for what a small group leader is pouring into and investing into the lives of just a few students that God has entrusted into their care.

00:10:49:00 - 00:11:11:13
Nick Clason
I think a lot of times when we think small group leader or when we think youth ministry leader, we think they need to be leading a small group. And when you think through the wide swath of different volunteers that you might need, you might not need every single person that says they're interested to become a volunteer small group leader.

00:11:11:13 - 00:11:41:17
Nick Clason
If you think homeschool mom, if you think 55 and older guy, like there might be some other roles in your youth ministry. In fact, we in our studio miss you. We like to use these other roles as a little bit of a feeling out time for both of us, so we get to enlist them into another role that's not directly in the spiritual care and direction of a student, but one that we get to see them, see their faithfulness if they're actually coming to the job.

00:11:41:20 - 00:11:57:12
Nick Clason
And then we also get to know them, because if they're not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, and if you're also not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, you can have a conversation with them. I remember there is a a leader at church I worked at and she was enlisted as one of our safety people.

00:11:57:12 - 00:12:25:02
Nick Clason
She was a police officer and she was a safety person and she was in the back of the room as she was kind of doing her thing. This wasn't on any of our sort of radars with it, but she was doing her thing. She actually came up. She's like, Hey, could I do that? Like instead of safety? And you see how like just being a part of the hospitality team in some way, shape or form being part of it, it initiated her thought process to kind of like say that might be something that I am also interested.

00:12:25:02 - 00:12:45:08
Nick Clason
So some of the roles that we use hospitality, so that's getting things set up, that's greeters at check in, that's saying hey to students, first time students, help them fill out gas cards, all that type of stuff. There's safety. Like I mentioned, and you may have a plan for that from like a hiring in an officer type of thing.

00:12:45:08 - 00:13:03:22
Nick Clason
Or if not, if you're too small of a church, then you need to hire a couple, maybe volunteers, to sort of oversee it, keep eyes on dark spaces in the church, you know, keep an eye on bathrooms. Just make sure that there are an additional set of eyes on everything, because you know that as programing it's going. You got a lot on your mind, a lot on your plate.

00:13:03:24 - 00:13:20:24
Nick Clason
And so some of the last things on your mind is checking to make sure that back in that back closet there aren't two kids making out in this is safety person to do that that will help you know give you an additional like set of eyes so that you can see and know what's going on without seeing and knowing every single thing that's going on.

00:13:20:26 - 00:13:45:14
Nick Clason
You may have a cafe I don't love like cafes from like the selling standpoint, having to source food, but I do love having a cafe because it gives it gives leaders an actual meaningful task to do that. We can place them in in sort of like a first step kind of role before we move them. If I if I don't know this person at all before we move them into a small group leader type role.

00:13:45:17 - 00:14:14:17
Nick Clason
And then, you know, depending on your set in your format, I was in a church that did decentralized host homes. And so we had groups meeting all throughout the city and all sorts of different houses. Your host home volunteers are a great pool of people and a great place. You can send some people so they may not be ready yet to be small group leader every single week, but they may be willing to create a warm, welcoming, inviting kind of atmosphere in a host home situation.

00:14:14:19 - 00:14:42:07
Nick Clason
The third and final or in our list is retention. So retention is how do you keep these volunteers now that you have them? So the first thing that you need to be doing is you need to be checking in with your volunteers frequently. Now, I hear you might be thinking, I don't have very much time. Listen, as a part of this 2024 on Main Masterclass, the very first video was how to manage your time and how to get more stuff done.

00:14:42:12 - 00:15:11:24
Nick Clason
I would recommend that you take a look at that because when you implement some of those processes, you will find that you have more time than you think you do. And once you realize that you can start budgeting for and scheduling conversations, relationships, lunches, coffee appointments with some of your leaders, and it's important to do that because you just have an opportunity to sit down, have a conversation with leaders, get to know them, and let them know that like you're there and they have a place that they can turn to.

00:15:11:25 - 00:15:41:08
Nick Clason
Now, if you have 50, 7500 volunteers, then that's too much for you and that's where you need to probably implement some sort of coaching structure, some sort of additional layer where there's another person kind of put in that place to help be that for you. Again, similar to the safety team, somebody who can just be an additional hand, additional shepherd, additional person to help you care for the leaders in your student ministry.

00:15:41:10 - 00:16:04:00
Nick Clason
What about relationships? Like how are you building your relationship, your rapport with these leaders, Hang out with them in a casual environment. It doesn't always have to be a formalized like meeting sit down with an agenda and three points to get through. Just who are you hanging out with your leaders? If you're hanging out with your leaders, I told you my last video about a guy named Steve that I enlisted.

00:16:04:02 - 00:16:24:03
Nick Clason
I enlisted him to be a seventh grade boy, Smoggy Peter, which in that church, seventh grade was the earliest the youngest age that we had for our students. He still to this day, they are now seniors. He still to this day is a small group leader for them. But I haven't been in that space since like eighth grade of those kids year.

00:16:24:03 - 00:16:44:06
Nick Clason
So. So he stayed all through high school all throughout COVID. Mind you all after my relationship with him left. But because I built a rapport with him, he stuck for that. And then he got hooked and he stuck and he stayed. Finally, think about appreciation. Do you leaders know that you care about them? Do you give them moments?

00:16:44:08 - 00:17:01:29
Nick Clason
Do you give them tokens of appreciation? Does it have to be a big budget buster? But I remember I talked to a youth leader one time who she said all she was doing was just a pristine, like just the mess out of her volunteers. And she asked one of her volunteers one time like, Do you feel appreciated or why?

00:17:01:29 - 00:17:24:27
Nick Clason
Why do people like serving in students? And one of their volunteers said, You'd be crazy not to because he was basically saying, You appreciate us so often and so much like anyone who does this job just feels like a million bucks. Okay. The fourth thing under tension is develop them well, which is actually the final video link in the 2024 youth ministry.

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OnDemand Masterclass is linked right here on the screen. So go ahead and check that out because you want to develop them so that you retain them. We're working to make digital discipleship in youth ministry, in in church ministry, easy possible and accessible. So as always, stay hybrid.

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00:00 The Life Line for all Youth Pastors
01:02 Finding the Best Volunteers
04:48 Full Proof Recruiting Email
10:06 Not Everybody is a Small Group Leader
14:01 Never Recruit Again with Good Retention

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:24:22
Nick Clason
If you've been in youth ministry for any length of time, then you know that the lifeline for any good youth ministry is a Dole volunteer. Leaders, Right. Like so much So you might even ask the question, am I even needed? I mean, eventually, Hopefully. No, because you've raised these leaders up in such a way that they're competent and can do the job without you.

00:00:24:24 - 00:00:46:01
Nick Clason
We've talked deeply in the last episode about the philosophy and the reasons behind having good volunteer youth leaders. It's our last video to enjoy the top of the screen. But in this video, we're going to round out and I'm going to give you the three R's of volunteers recruitment. And I have a full proof email, so stick around to see that the roles that you can enlist them into.

00:00:46:01 - 00:01:06:26
Nick Clason
And finally, stick around all the way to the very end of the video because the third and final R is retention. And if you lay out a good foundation and if you actually stick to the plan with retention, you won't ever have to be recruiting again. Sound too good to be true? Let's check it out. So the first R in volunteerism is recruitment.

00:01:06:27 - 00:01:29:26
Nick Clason
Always be recruiting. Now you might be thinking to yourself, Well, where in the world do I even find them coming below the best places to find volunteers in your church? I mean, just think about the places that you frequent. Maybe it's your or your wife's or your families or your children's Sunday school classes. So perhaps you have a kid.

00:01:29:26 - 00:02:00:11
Nick Clason
They have a Sunday school class, another kids parents in that Sunday school class, maybe a small group that you're in or that you lead. As you get to do life with people, you'll notice more about them and you'll be looking for certain qualities or attributes. I mean, one of the best things that you need to do is you need to realize that anyone can do youth ministry, but you're probably not going to find people who come to you and say, I am so super passionate about youth ministry and they look the part and they're cool and they have piercings and they have tattoos.

00:02:00:11 - 00:02:29:07
Nick Clason
Like you'll get one or two of those. But like you also have to be willing to recruit the moms. You have to be willing to recruit the over 55 year old, almost retired men. You have to be willing to recruit like the homeschool dad, like the people that don't exactly look the part. But if they love Jesus and if they can tolerate teenagers, then they're in a good spot to be a youth volunteer and just ask.

00:02:29:08 - 00:02:50:06
Nick Clason
I remember I was coaching one of my kids flag football teams and while I was coaching the team, it was still a church. I was coaching the team, one of the moms on the team. She we had two coaches in there on the field and she kept making her way over to the sidelines and she's like, I just love helping out and being around the kids.

00:02:50:07 - 00:03:07:23
Nick Clason
Is it okay if I do this? Like she wasn't officially a coach? None of that stuff. And so we were like, Yeah, that's great because the kids are just while an hour over there on the sidelines. We needed all the help that we could get. And so her being on the sidelines immediately, like trigger my brain, I was like, I'm going to ask her.

00:03:07:24 - 00:03:28:25
Nick Clason
And so one day I had a leader drop off like a leader call me and say, Hey, I can't do it anymore. I was dropping my son off at preschool, and this mom also is dropping her kids off at the same preschool through the church, which I had never seen her do that before. And immediately in my brain, I felt the Holy Spirit say, Ask her.

00:03:28:27 - 00:03:51:07
Nick Clason
And I had to do the digging because I had to like I didn't know her name right. So I knew the kids names from the fly football team. So I found the kids in our church, you know, database. And then I found her as the mom, and then I just shot her an email. And I'm gonna share with you that imagery just so you might be thinking, okay, I think think through all the different pools that you have and I get it.

00:03:51:07 - 00:04:11:19
Nick Clason
You might be like, I don't I don't have any like at that point, start asking like, ask other other people that, you know, who do you know, who can I ask Who's in your small group? Who's who's someone who's just friendly? Right. And one of the things I like to do is I'm like, they may not have the soft youth ministry skills yet, but if they have a teachable spirit, we can level them up in youth ministry.

00:04:11:19 - 00:04:31:06
Nick Clason
And we're going to talk about in the third and final hour on retention. But how do you ask a volunteer leader? Right. So I have this this email that I've drafted. I am going to share it with you. If you're watching on YouTube, it's going to be linked right here on the screen if you're watching on YouTube, but you're dropping these now on Wednesday morning so you can listen to them on your way into the office.

00:04:31:06 - 00:04:58:08
Nick Clason
You can listen to them while you're setting up for youth ministry. If you're listening via the podcast feed, we're going to continue to drop them on Thursday morning. So you get a little bit of a bonus day if you're watching, subscribing and consuming these via YouTube. So for free, check us out there at YouTube.com slash clay cynic or just search hybrid ministry in the YouTube search bar but the leader recruitment email goes like this dear fill in their name.

00:04:58:10 - 00:05:18:05
Nick Clason
I think that you could be uniquely positioned to be a great volunteer in our student ministry. Now before you laugh, archive this email and just think that I'm full of hot air. Take a minute to think about this. Did you know that two thirds of adult Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18?

00:05:18:08 - 00:05:39:25
Nick Clason
This statistic alone is the reason why I do what I do and investing in the next generation. However, while you may not feel equipped, qualified or ready, I'd like to point out that God uses people like that. The underequipped, the under-qualified, and the not ready to further His kingdom every day. All throughout the pages of Scripture, Moses was a murderer.

00:05:39:28 - 00:06:09:16
Nick Clason
Jonah ran the other way. Peter was uneducated and Paul was a self-righteous bigot. Now, here's what I consider a qualification for student ministry. Love Jesus. And like teenagers, Borrow that from my friend Doug Fields. If you can check these two boxes off, then I think you have what it takes to join our team. I love to sit over a cup of coffee and discuss this idea with you a little bit more in depth, and maybe we could grab a quick phone call to chat about it.

00:06:09:19 - 00:06:35:09
Nick Clason
Give me a call or shoot me text if you'd like to do that. Signed your name. That email alone has drummed up a lot of interest in recruiting new volunteers. And when I was working at a large multisite megachurch in Chicago, I needed to do a lot of kind of cold call style emails, so I'd get names of people I'd never heard of, never met, and I would send them that email to at least sparked conversation and in a lot of cases I would get responses, but not always.

00:06:35:09 - 00:06:54:02
Nick Clason
And so if I didn't get a response out of reach back out via text or call just a couple of weeks later and say, Hey, I sent you an email, I'm just curious if you've given that email any more thought. So I love the line in that email. Two thirds of Christians have made a decision to follow Jesus before the age of 18.

00:06:54:03 - 00:07:13:03
Nick Clason
If you knew that you owe me a subscribe, and if you did it then then hit me like, right. Because what we're doing, like I says, we're dropping this this video one day before the podcast drops. All right. So that statistic alone is why I do what I do. The final thing after how to ask him is how do you onboard them right.

00:07:13:06 - 00:07:33:10
Nick Clason
So once this preliminary conversation has taken place, it's conversation number one. You're going to have to kind of streams of volunteer in intake, right? You may be thinking I need to recruit. And if that's the case, then by all means do it. But in some other cases you may get names to like a volunteer interest form or someone telling you, Hey, you should talk to John.

00:07:33:11 - 00:07:57:26
Nick Clason
Okay. So in that case, if someone else is giving you a name or if they're filling out a form on your website, you need to have a preliminary conversation with them. You need to sit down and find a way to to to kind of vet them just a little bit, not thoroughly and not like FBI style, but just a little bit of like get to know them, get to know their story and discover their reason for why they want to do youth ministry.

00:07:57:27 - 00:08:19:05
Nick Clason
Because while you may be excited about just a random name coming into you from the website, you also have to make sure that you're not enlisting somebody who might be an abuser or a pedophile or some weirdo because as we said earlier, people are just not naturally drawn to being a youth leader volunteer. So someone does say that they are just out of the clear blue sky.

00:08:19:07 - 00:08:43:06
Nick Clason
Just do a tiny little bit of homework. So once that first conversation, that first screening conversation is done, then you need to enter them into whatever your church's safety screening process is. After they've gone through their safety screening process, whether that be a background check, taking some sexual abuse awareness classes or somewhere in between the two of those, you need to find a time to enlist them for a first serve.

00:08:43:07 - 00:09:05:14
Nick Clason
Now, the way that we sort of do it is like we have our background check and that lets them get in the room for a first serve because sometimes some of that additional sexual abuse awareness training is a lot. And so we get them in the room shadowed with someone who's already cleared and screened, but they can get a feel for youth ministry also to kind of just like strike while the iron is hot.

00:09:05:14 - 00:09:21:07
Nick Clason
You don't want that lead to go cold, so you don't want someone who says they're interested and then you not give them an opportunity to come serve. So give them a first serve. Once that first serve is over, have a clearing clarifying conversation with them. I typically like to do it the same day or the same night of their first serve.

00:09:21:13 - 00:09:44:22
Nick Clason
Hey, would you think what do you think in killing begin to kind of pursue this in this direction unless they give you some sort of like big red flag of like, I don't know, man, that's really was Wow. That really wasn't for me. I would try to find a way to start enlisting them that night, make sure that they are finishing up any of their remaining screenings before you make them an official part of your team.

00:09:44:24 - 00:10:07:28
Nick Clason
But then once they have done all those things, once they've done that first serve and they've had that clarifying conversation, get them into an on board situation and do it as quickly as you can see. I think a lot of times we say we want volunteers, but then we're too busy to actually engage with them in meaningfully bring them along so that they feel loved, valued, cared for and that their time is not being wasted.

00:10:08:01 - 00:10:31:17
Nick Clason
So let's move on. Now that we've talked about recruiting, what are the roles that you're recruiting them into? All right. So rule number one is this small group leader. We talked about it at length in the last video, but the lead small book written by the folks down at Orange is, I believe, one of the best pictures of what it means to simply be a small group leader.

00:10:31:17 - 00:10:48:28
Nick Clason
It is clear. It is concise. Any one of us could have written it, but we didn't. And so they get the credit for it because they did the work. But it is a great manual for what a small group leader is pouring into and investing into the lives of just a few students that God has entrusted into their care.

00:10:49:00 - 00:11:11:13
Nick Clason
I think a lot of times when we think small group leader or when we think youth ministry leader, we think they need to be leading a small group. And when you think through the wide swath of different volunteers that you might need, you might not need every single person that says they're interested to become a volunteer small group leader.

00:11:11:13 - 00:11:41:17
Nick Clason
If you think homeschool mom, if you think 55 and older guy, like there might be some other roles in your youth ministry. In fact, we in our studio miss you. We like to use these other roles as a little bit of a feeling out time for both of us, so we get to enlist them into another role that's not directly in the spiritual care and direction of a student, but one that we get to see them, see their faithfulness if they're actually coming to the job.

00:11:41:20 - 00:11:57:12
Nick Clason
And then we also get to know them, because if they're not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, and if you're also not in some sort of volunteer small group moment, you can have a conversation with them. I remember there is a a leader at church I worked at and she was enlisted as one of our safety people.

00:11:57:12 - 00:12:25:02
Nick Clason
She was a police officer and she was a safety person and she was in the back of the room as she was kind of doing her thing. This wasn't on any of our sort of radars with it, but she was doing her thing. She actually came up. She's like, Hey, could I do that? Like instead of safety? And you see how like just being a part of the hospitality team in some way, shape or form being part of it, it initiated her thought process to kind of like say that might be something that I am also interested.

00:12:25:02 - 00:12:45:08
Nick Clason
So some of the roles that we use hospitality, so that's getting things set up, that's greeters at check in, that's saying hey to students, first time students, help them fill out gas cards, all that type of stuff. There's safety. Like I mentioned, and you may have a plan for that from like a hiring in an officer type of thing.

00:12:45:08 - 00:13:03:22
Nick Clason
Or if not, if you're too small of a church, then you need to hire a couple, maybe volunteers, to sort of oversee it, keep eyes on dark spaces in the church, you know, keep an eye on bathrooms. Just make sure that there are an additional set of eyes on everything, because you know that as programing it's going. You got a lot on your mind, a lot on your plate.

00:13:03:24 - 00:13:20:24
Nick Clason
And so some of the last things on your mind is checking to make sure that back in that back closet there aren't two kids making out in this is safety person to do that that will help you know give you an additional like set of eyes so that you can see and know what's going on without seeing and knowing every single thing that's going on.

00:13:20:26 - 00:13:45:14
Nick Clason
You may have a cafe I don't love like cafes from like the selling standpoint, having to source food, but I do love having a cafe because it gives it gives leaders an actual meaningful task to do that. We can place them in in sort of like a first step kind of role before we move them. If I if I don't know this person at all before we move them into a small group leader type role.

00:13:45:17 - 00:14:14:17
Nick Clason
And then, you know, depending on your set in your format, I was in a church that did decentralized host homes. And so we had groups meeting all throughout the city and all sorts of different houses. Your host home volunteers are a great pool of people and a great place. You can send some people so they may not be ready yet to be small group leader every single week, but they may be willing to create a warm, welcoming, inviting kind of atmosphere in a host home situation.

00:14:14:19 - 00:14:42:07
Nick Clason
The third and final or in our list is retention. So retention is how do you keep these volunteers now that you have them? So the first thing that you need to be doing is you need to be checking in with your volunteers frequently. Now, I hear you might be thinking, I don't have very much time. Listen, as a part of this 2024 on Main Masterclass, the very first video was how to manage your time and how to get more stuff done.

00:14:42:12 - 00:15:11:24
Nick Clason
I would recommend that you take a look at that because when you implement some of those processes, you will find that you have more time than you think you do. And once you realize that you can start budgeting for and scheduling conversations, relationships, lunches, coffee appointments with some of your leaders, and it's important to do that because you just have an opportunity to sit down, have a conversation with leaders, get to know them, and let them know that like you're there and they have a place that they can turn to.

00:15:11:25 - 00:15:41:08
Nick Clason
Now, if you have 50, 7500 volunteers, then that's too much for you and that's where you need to probably implement some sort of coaching structure, some sort of additional layer where there's another person kind of put in that place to help be that for you. Again, similar to the safety team, somebody who can just be an additional hand, additional shepherd, additional person to help you care for the leaders in your student ministry.

00:15:41:10 - 00:16:04:00
Nick Clason
What about relationships? Like how are you building your relationship, your rapport with these leaders, Hang out with them in a casual environment. It doesn't always have to be a formalized like meeting sit down with an agenda and three points to get through. Just who are you hanging out with your leaders? If you're hanging out with your leaders, I told you my last video about a guy named Steve that I enlisted.

00:16:04:02 - 00:16:24:03
Nick Clason
I enlisted him to be a seventh grade boy, Smoggy Peter, which in that church, seventh grade was the earliest the youngest age that we had for our students. He still to this day, they are now seniors. He still to this day is a small group leader for them. But I haven't been in that space since like eighth grade of those kids year.

00:16:24:03 - 00:16:44:06
Nick Clason
So. So he stayed all through high school all throughout COVID. Mind you all after my relationship with him left. But because I built a rapport with him, he stuck for that. And then he got hooked and he stuck and he stayed. Finally, think about appreciation. Do you leaders know that you care about them? Do you give them moments?

00:16:44:08 - 00:17:01:29
Nick Clason
Do you give them tokens of appreciation? Does it have to be a big budget buster? But I remember I talked to a youth leader one time who she said all she was doing was just a pristine, like just the mess out of her volunteers. And she asked one of her volunteers one time like, Do you feel appreciated or why?

00:17:01:29 - 00:17:24:27
Nick Clason
Why do people like serving in students? And one of their volunteers said, You'd be crazy not to because he was basically saying, You appreciate us so often and so much like anyone who does this job just feels like a million bucks. Okay. The fourth thing under tension is develop them well, which is actually the final video link in the 2024 youth ministry.

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Nick Clason
OnDemand Masterclass is linked right here on the screen. So go ahead and check that out because you want to develop them so that you retain them. We're working to make digital discipleship in youth ministry, in in church ministry, easy possible and accessible. So as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 083: โค๏ธ Youth Ministry Volunteers Unleashed https://www.hybridministry.xyz/083 05b62785-f0aa-4d27-888a-b8125ca2ffe7 Thu, 08 Feb 2024 04:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 083 โค๏ธ Youth Ministry Volunteers Unleashed full Nick Clason ๐Ÿคซ The Secret Sauce in Youth Ministry, might surprise you, is Volunteers ๐ŸฉนYou only have a certain capacity as one individual person. Volunteers not only help level up your care in your youth ministry. But also, they can be the best source of friendship and camaraderie โซHow do we level up our volunteers to unleash them? ๐Ÿ”—http://www.hybridministry.xyz/083 11:06 no โšก FULL HYBRID MINISTRY STRATEGYโšก https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg [FREE] My Best Youth Ministry Games https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/9-best-dym-products ====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐Ÿคซ The Secret Sauce in Youth Ministry, might surprise you, is Volunteers ๐Ÿฉน You only have a certain capacity as one individual person. Volunteers not only help level up your care in your youth ministry. But also, they can be the best source of friendship and camaraderie โซ How do we level up our volunteers to unleash them? ๐Ÿ”— https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg ====================================== ๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/083 //YOUTUBE VIDEO https://youtu.be/7ytA0V0MdeA 1) PASTORAL CARE //LEAD SMALL https://www.amazon.com/Lead-Small-Ideas-Every-Leader/dp/0985411627 //MY FULL STRATEGY https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book 2) CAMARADERIE //DARE2SHARE https://www.dare2share.org 3) INTERSECTED FAITH STORIES //GROWING YOUNG https://www.amazon.com/Growing-Young-Essential-Strategies-Discover/dp/0801019257/ref=sr11?crid=338IYV0RBLJFS&keywords=growing+young&qid=1705628888&s=books&sprefix=growing+young%2Cstripbooks%2C153&sr=1-1 ๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== ๐Ÿ†“ FREEBIES ๐Ÿ†“ ๐Ÿ“… "The Full Hybrid Ministry Strategy" https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ "My 9 Favorite DYM Resources" https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym ๐ŸŽ… "The Ultimate (and FREE!) 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I was running a high school and a middle school ministry separate, but I was the only guy. And so the way I actually did it, which I don't necessarily recommend this as a strategy anymore, and I can tell you why in future videos. But I had youth ministry, I had middle school ministry in high school ministry, staggered. 00;00;19;09 - 00;00;41;44 Nick Clason So one started at six or six. One started at seven or seven. Thought I was really, really cute for coming up with that idea. But no other people have come up with that idea before. Anyway, in my middle school ministry. I had a middle school ministry of girls, like only girls had about eight or six middle school girls on a regular basis and we had no boys. 00;00;41;44 - 00;01;04;00 Nick Clason In fact, it was a pretty big issue, big enough that there were families leaving the church over it. That being said, I had literally only been there for about four months. And so one family left the church days after I accepted the job and my senior pastor was like, Bro, that's the whole reason why we're hiring this guy to like, help get more people here, get more, you know, boys here for your your son. 00;01;04;01 - 00;01;25;57 Nick Clason And so anyway, I had missed school ministry and I was playing Leader Roulette. And I'll tell you what, leader Roula, it is I only had middle I only had girl leaders enlisted to serve in my middle school ministry. No boy leaders because I had no boy students. And so in my brain I was like, I'll get to that problem when it happens. 00;01;25;57 - 00;01;48;58 Nick Clason And so there I was in the lobby welcoming middle school students. And I should also say that I had like 90 minutes of programing. So say, you know, 30 minutes or so of games, 30 minutes of teaching, and then 30 minutes of smart, that last 30 minutes was the overlapping part. So I sent middle schoolers off to their small group for the 30 minutes and the high schoolers sort of right at that time. 00;01;48;58 - 00;02;13;16 Nick Clason So I was I was unavailable to ever step in as some sort of small group. So anyway, middle school ministry is starting somewhere around 606 or so. I can't say for certain the exact moment. And in walks a boy in my face. I'm like, dang, we got trouble. Now the good news was I did have some high school boys. 00;02;13;21 - 00;02;35;31 Nick Clason And so then thus I did have high school boy volunteers. And so one of my high school boy volunteers, his name was Aaron Coons. Shout out to Aaron Koontz, Beavercreek, Ohio, AC for short. I call them up was like, dude. And no, you don't need to be here till seven, but can you pop in a few minutes early and can you help run and cover this middle school boy? 00;02;35;31 - 00;03;03;29 Nick Clason Small group that I was now going to figure out how to staff it. Right now I had a boy. Now I needed boy, small group leaders. And so in this video today, what we are going to talk about is the why of volunteers in youth ministry. And in fact, I actually was going to make this one video. I was going to talk about the why of youth ministry volunteers, the recruiting of youth ministry volunteers and the training of youth minister volunteers. 00;03;03;29 - 00;03;22;55 Nick Clason And as I sort of scripting it out, I realized this is a long video. So as a part of the 2024 Masterclass, I know I said in the last year, this is going to be the last one, but it's not. We are going to extend this one and break it apart into three different videos. So very a video series inside another video series. 00;03;23;00 - 00;03;42;02 Nick Clason That's why you should subscribe. Because in this video we're talking about the why of youth ministry volunteers and in future videos, we're going to be talking about how to recruit. And then we're also going to be talking about training. All of this is a part of the free on demand training for youth ministry. Master Class. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show. 00;03;42;07 - 00;04;00;21 Nick Clason So, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid ministry show. I am Nic Clason Just like I was saying, I've been in youth ministry. The story I shared in the intro was about, I think 13, 12, 13 years ago. Now, at this point, no boys, no boy, small group leaders. And so from that point, I have learned quite a few things about youth ministry. 00;04;00;21 - 00;04;26;15 Nick Clason I've learned quite a few things about youth ministry volunteers. And one of the key things for youth ministry in youth ministry volunteers is the need for volunteers to help scale up in pastoral care. In fact, we have a video that's linked right here at the top of this screen where we talked about ways to use hybrid ministry to enhance the pastoral care in the shepherding in your youth ministry and in your student ministry. 00;04;26;15 - 00;04;46;30 Nick Clason And so I'm not going to get too deep into that and tools and tips and tricks on how to equip your volunteers to reach out to your students and to care for your students. But you should check that out. There's some that you're interested in. However, one of the key things not to sound too corporate, not to sound to business, is that you need youth ministry leaders to help scale up the care. 00;04;46;30 - 00;05;11;34 Nick Clason I mean, the reality of the fact is that you, as an individual, a singular one person, youth ministry, one man band, you only have so much capacity and maybe you're a super relational person. And so your capacity may be higher than someone who's not quite as relational as you. But at the end of the day, you realize that like once you scale past 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, I don't know, definitely 80. 00;05;11;34 - 00;05;32;22 Nick Clason You're not going to be able to know every single student's name, every single student story, every single student's things going on. Their families are not going to be able to attend every single student's games and every single student's extracurricular types of things. And so that is why youth ministry is so important, is because your your volunteers help spread out that care. 00;05;32;22 - 00;05;55;21 Nick Clason I mean, that's really that's the crux, the thesis is the basis for the entire book written by Orange Lead Small, one of my all time favorite resources. If you haven't checked it out, link down below in the show notes. But it is a youth ministry volunteer's job description and I actually used it in a lot of cases to help onboard some of my leaders and say, Read this and if this lights a fire within you, then let's keep talking. 00;05;55;21 - 00;06;18;03 Nick Clason And that'll be kind of the preliminary starting foundation for a lot of my discussions. So it helps expand our reach. Speaking of expanding regional, I think all of us realize and see the need for social media. Well, what I've done for use, I've actually led a completely free digital strategy. I call it my hybrid ministry done for you one month posting strategy. 00;06;18;03 - 00;06;42;05 Nick Clason It's linked right here down below. Very first link in the top of this video, I want you to check out my completely free e-book and not only can you become the face of your youth ministry, social media, not only can you get students as a main primary face of your youth, missed your social media, but you can now also, as a part of this video, enlist your volunteers to be a part of your youth ministry and especially what they're doing on social media. 00;06;42;14 - 00;07;09;23 Nick Clason But reason number two, beyond scaling up pastoral care so that you can kind of spread out the need and the desire and knowing of students, there's just a camaraderie that comes with people locking arms and going together. I remember my students, we would take them to a thing called Dare to Share. You've maybe heard of it before, and at one point in the Dear Teacher conference, what they're doing it actually said, now there's a dude, Ayrshire Live, and so you kind of host it as like a livestream event. 00;07;09;23 - 00;07;23;52 Nick Clason But back in the day they would go city to city and so we would kind of chase whatever city they're in. Sometimes they're in Dayton, Ohio, sometimes they're in Columbus, Ohio. I think maybe one time there in Cincinnati, Ohio. But nonetheless, we would kind of go to the conference. They'd have the worship and the speakers and all the things. 00;07;23;52 - 00;07;42;04 Nick Clason But at one point they'd send youth ministries all throughout the city of wherever the hosting of the event was happening. And they would say, go door to door, collect cans, pass out lightbulbs, whatever the case may be, but share the gospel with people and my students. I remember they'd always be so nervous and freaked out. I mean, come on, wouldn't you? 00;07;42;09 - 00;08;09;23 Nick Clason And but but one of the things that was so helpful but it was would help kind of break down the barrier and the entry level of starting a gospel conversation. But I remember the atmosphere and the attitude once we arrived back in the conference room, everyone in that place, they were hype. They were so pumped up because they had gone out and they actually I remember one time in one of the things they equated it to, like being on a military mission. 00;08;09;27 - 00;08;30;02 Nick Clason You have this unbreakable bond because you've been on a mission together. And I think in a lot of ways that's what a youth ministry volunteer team can be. You as you pastor, you have a mission to help reach students and share the gospel and help point them to Jesus. But then you also have leaders who are who are adopting that same mindset and strategy, and maybe they're not there yet. 00;08;30;06 - 00;08;51;03 Nick Clason You're helping kind of bring them along or level them up into that. And once you can have that unbreakable bond, you realize that even after a bad night of youth ministry, you guys are still there together, that you're still around some other people who are a like minded on the same page and beyond just that, beyond just like the camaraderie, you have the opportunity to make real friends with these people. 00;08;51;18 - 00;09;13;00 Nick Clason I remember I worked at a church in Cincinnati, Ohio, and one of my volunteers became one of my best friends, and we met every single Tuesday morning. We met to recite Bible verses together to kind of keep each other accountable. And still to this day, even now, at that point, something like five, six, seven years ago, we'll call each other every once in a while and we'll just kind of keep up with each other's lives. 00;09;13;13 - 00;09;31;42 Nick Clason The third reason why you need volunteers in your youth ministry is simply because of the fact that students need more than you to speak into their life and into their faith story. In fact, it takes five people in the book Growing Young by Care, Power, Power. She talked about the importance and that's going to be Campbell on the show notes or wherever your podcast catch. 00;09;31;42 - 00;09;59;34 Nick Clason You can you can check it out in the link in the description or a hybridministry.xyz/083 beyond just three of transcripts. But Kara Powell said that we need five people. Students need five people in their lives. If they have five people speaking into their lives of their faith beyond just mom and dad. But but smart leaders and youth pastors and maybe even like adults that they serve in the nursery with the they rub shoulders with and they see on a regular ongoing basis. 00;09;59;34 - 00;10;21;00 Nick Clason You need leaders in your life because you are not going to be the only primary person speaking into students lives. And if you are, that's going to leave them with a less lustful, less less robust faith. They need other voices speaking into it so you can be a voice in their smug habit. It can be a voice and maybe their small group co-leader can be a voice. 00;10;21;00 - 00;10;39;39 Nick Clason And maybe some are on the serving team that's overseeing the greeters, which they're they're a member of serving on the youth ministry team or whatever the case might be. But fill it in. So there's five people. Five people seems to be the kind of key marker and not wasn't I get it? You might be sitting there thinking, I don't have five people I know it can be difficult. 00;10;39;39 - 00;11;01;32 Nick Clason And that's why we're talking on the next video about how to recruit the best youth ministry volunteers, where to get them, where to find them, how to do it that is linked right here on the video. So don't forget, in this podcast we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, accessible in this particular video through the ministry of our small group leaders. 00;11;01;32 - 00;11;05;42 Nick Clason So don't forget and as always, stay hybrid. 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๐Ÿคซ The Secret Sauce in Youth Ministry, might surprise you, is Volunteers

๐Ÿฉน You only have a certain capacity as one individual person.
Volunteers not only help level up your care in your youth ministry.
But also, they can be the best source of friendship and camaraderie

โซ How do we level up our volunteers to unleash them?

๐Ÿ”— https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg
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๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/083

//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/7ytA0V0MdeA

1) PASTORAL CARE
//LEAD SMALL
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//MY FULL STRATEGY
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2) CAMARADERIE
//DARE2SHARE
https://www.dare2share.org

3) INTERSECTED FAITH STORIES
//GROWING YOUNG

https://www.amazon.com/Growing-Young-Essential-Strategies-Discover/dp/0801019257/ref=sr_1_1?crid=338IYV0RBLJFS&keywords=growing+young&qid=1705628888&s=books&sprefix=growing+young%2Cstripbooks%2C153&sr=1-1

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๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธTIMECODES
00:00-03:41 We would all be sunk without our Youth Ministry Volunteers
03:41-06:42 Caring for youth beyond your capacity
06:42-09:13 How to find friends as a youth pastor
09:13-11:05 Students need more than you

โœ๏ธTRANSCRIPT
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00;00;00;05 - 00;00;19;09
Nick Clason
So early on in in Youth Minister, you've probably been there. I was running a high school and a middle school ministry separate, but I was the only guy. And so the way I actually did it, which I don't necessarily recommend this as a strategy anymore, and I can tell you why in future videos. But I had youth ministry, I had middle school ministry in high school ministry, staggered.

00;00;19;09 - 00;00;41;44
Nick Clason
So one started at six or six. One started at seven or seven. Thought I was really, really cute for coming up with that idea. But no other people have come up with that idea before. Anyway, in my middle school ministry. I had a middle school ministry of girls, like only girls had about eight or six middle school girls on a regular basis and we had no boys.

00;00;41;44 - 00;01;04;00
Nick Clason
In fact, it was a pretty big issue, big enough that there were families leaving the church over it. That being said, I had literally only been there for about four months. And so one family left the church days after I accepted the job and my senior pastor was like, Bro, that's the whole reason why we're hiring this guy to like, help get more people here, get more, you know, boys here for your your son.

00;01;04;01 - 00;01;25;57
Nick Clason
And so anyway, I had missed school ministry and I was playing Leader Roulette. And I'll tell you what, leader Roula, it is I only had middle I only had girl leaders enlisted to serve in my middle school ministry. No boy leaders because I had no boy students. And so in my brain I was like, I'll get to that problem when it happens.

00;01;25;57 - 00;01;48;58
Nick Clason
And so there I was in the lobby welcoming middle school students. And I should also say that I had like 90 minutes of programing. So say, you know, 30 minutes or so of games, 30 minutes of teaching, and then 30 minutes of smart, that last 30 minutes was the overlapping part. So I sent middle schoolers off to their small group for the 30 minutes and the high schoolers sort of right at that time.

00;01;48;58 - 00;02;13;16
Nick Clason
So I was I was unavailable to ever step in as some sort of small group. So anyway, middle school ministry is starting somewhere around 606 or so. I can't say for certain the exact moment. And in walks a boy in my face. I'm like, dang, we got trouble. Now the good news was I did have some high school boys.

00;02;13;21 - 00;02;35;31
Nick Clason
And so then thus I did have high school boy volunteers. And so one of my high school boy volunteers, his name was Aaron Coons. Shout out to Aaron Koontz, Beavercreek, Ohio, AC for short. I call them up was like, dude. And no, you don't need to be here till seven, but can you pop in a few minutes early and can you help run and cover this middle school boy?

00;02;35;31 - 00;03;03;29
Nick Clason
Small group that I was now going to figure out how to staff it. Right now I had a boy. Now I needed boy, small group leaders. And so in this video today, what we are going to talk about is the why of volunteers in youth ministry. And in fact, I actually was going to make this one video. I was going to talk about the why of youth ministry volunteers, the recruiting of youth ministry volunteers and the training of youth minister volunteers.

00;03;03;29 - 00;03;22;55
Nick Clason
And as I sort of scripting it out, I realized this is a long video. So as a part of the 2024 Masterclass, I know I said in the last year, this is going to be the last one, but it's not. We are going to extend this one and break it apart into three different videos. So very a video series inside another video series.

00;03;23;00 - 00;03;42;02
Nick Clason
That's why you should subscribe. Because in this video we're talking about the why of youth ministry volunteers and in future videos, we're going to be talking about how to recruit. And then we're also going to be talking about training. All of this is a part of the free on demand training for youth ministry. Master Class. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show.

00;03;42;07 - 00;04;00;21
Nick Clason
So, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid ministry show. I am Nic Clason Just like I was saying, I've been in youth ministry. The story I shared in the intro was about, I think 13, 12, 13 years ago. Now, at this point, no boys, no boy, small group leaders. And so from that point, I have learned quite a few things about youth ministry.

00;04;00;21 - 00;04;26;15
Nick Clason
I've learned quite a few things about youth ministry volunteers. And one of the key things for youth ministry in youth ministry volunteers is the need for volunteers to help scale up in pastoral care. In fact, we have a video that's linked right here at the top of this screen where we talked about ways to use hybrid ministry to enhance the pastoral care in the shepherding in your youth ministry and in your student ministry.

00;04;26;15 - 00;04;46;30
Nick Clason
And so I'm not going to get too deep into that and tools and tips and tricks on how to equip your volunteers to reach out to your students and to care for your students. But you should check that out. There's some that you're interested in. However, one of the key things not to sound too corporate, not to sound to business, is that you need youth ministry leaders to help scale up the care.

00;04;46;30 - 00;05;11;34
Nick Clason
I mean, the reality of the fact is that you, as an individual, a singular one person, youth ministry, one man band, you only have so much capacity and maybe you're a super relational person. And so your capacity may be higher than someone who's not quite as relational as you. But at the end of the day, you realize that like once you scale past 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, I don't know, definitely 80.

00;05;11;34 - 00;05;32;22
Nick Clason
You're not going to be able to know every single student's name, every single student story, every single student's things going on. Their families are not going to be able to attend every single student's games and every single student's extracurricular types of things. And so that is why youth ministry is so important, is because your your volunteers help spread out that care.

00;05;32;22 - 00;05;55;21
Nick Clason
I mean, that's really that's the crux, the thesis is the basis for the entire book written by Orange Lead Small, one of my all time favorite resources. If you haven't checked it out, link down below in the show notes. But it is a youth ministry volunteer's job description and I actually used it in a lot of cases to help onboard some of my leaders and say, Read this and if this lights a fire within you, then let's keep talking.

00;05;55;21 - 00;06;18;03
Nick Clason
And that'll be kind of the preliminary starting foundation for a lot of my discussions. So it helps expand our reach. Speaking of expanding regional, I think all of us realize and see the need for social media. Well, what I've done for use, I've actually led a completely free digital strategy. I call it my hybrid ministry done for you one month posting strategy.

00;06;18;03 - 00;06;42;05
Nick Clason
It's linked right here down below. Very first link in the top of this video, I want you to check out my completely free e-book and not only can you become the face of your youth ministry, social media, not only can you get students as a main primary face of your youth, missed your social media, but you can now also, as a part of this video, enlist your volunteers to be a part of your youth ministry and especially what they're doing on social media.

00;06;42;14 - 00;07;09;23
Nick Clason
But reason number two, beyond scaling up pastoral care so that you can kind of spread out the need and the desire and knowing of students, there's just a camaraderie that comes with people locking arms and going together. I remember my students, we would take them to a thing called Dare to Share. You've maybe heard of it before, and at one point in the Dear Teacher conference, what they're doing it actually said, now there's a dude, Ayrshire Live, and so you kind of host it as like a livestream event.

00;07;09;23 - 00;07;23;52
Nick Clason
But back in the day they would go city to city and so we would kind of chase whatever city they're in. Sometimes they're in Dayton, Ohio, sometimes they're in Columbus, Ohio. I think maybe one time there in Cincinnati, Ohio. But nonetheless, we would kind of go to the conference. They'd have the worship and the speakers and all the things.

00;07;23;52 - 00;07;42;04
Nick Clason
But at one point they'd send youth ministries all throughout the city of wherever the hosting of the event was happening. And they would say, go door to door, collect cans, pass out lightbulbs, whatever the case may be, but share the gospel with people and my students. I remember they'd always be so nervous and freaked out. I mean, come on, wouldn't you?

00;07;42;09 - 00;08;09;23
Nick Clason
And but but one of the things that was so helpful but it was would help kind of break down the barrier and the entry level of starting a gospel conversation. But I remember the atmosphere and the attitude once we arrived back in the conference room, everyone in that place, they were hype. They were so pumped up because they had gone out and they actually I remember one time in one of the things they equated it to, like being on a military mission.

00;08;09;27 - 00;08;30;02
Nick Clason
You have this unbreakable bond because you've been on a mission together. And I think in a lot of ways that's what a youth ministry volunteer team can be. You as you pastor, you have a mission to help reach students and share the gospel and help point them to Jesus. But then you also have leaders who are who are adopting that same mindset and strategy, and maybe they're not there yet.

00;08;30;06 - 00;08;51;03
Nick Clason
You're helping kind of bring them along or level them up into that. And once you can have that unbreakable bond, you realize that even after a bad night of youth ministry, you guys are still there together, that you're still around some other people who are a like minded on the same page and beyond just that, beyond just like the camaraderie, you have the opportunity to make real friends with these people.

00;08;51;18 - 00;09;13;00
Nick Clason
I remember I worked at a church in Cincinnati, Ohio, and one of my volunteers became one of my best friends, and we met every single Tuesday morning. We met to recite Bible verses together to kind of keep each other accountable. And still to this day, even now, at that point, something like five, six, seven years ago, we'll call each other every once in a while and we'll just kind of keep up with each other's lives.

00;09;13;13 - 00;09;31;42
Nick Clason
The third reason why you need volunteers in your youth ministry is simply because of the fact that students need more than you to speak into their life and into their faith story. In fact, it takes five people in the book Growing Young by Care, Power, Power. She talked about the importance and that's going to be Campbell on the show notes or wherever your podcast catch.

00;09;31;42 - 00;09;59;34
Nick Clason
You can you can check it out in the link in the description or a hybridministry.xyz/083 beyond just three of transcripts. But Kara Powell said that we need five people. Students need five people in their lives. If they have five people speaking into their lives of their faith beyond just mom and dad. But but smart leaders and youth pastors and maybe even like adults that they serve in the nursery with the they rub shoulders with and they see on a regular ongoing basis.

00;09;59;34 - 00;10;21;00
Nick Clason
You need leaders in your life because you are not going to be the only primary person speaking into students lives. And if you are, that's going to leave them with a less lustful, less less robust faith. They need other voices speaking into it so you can be a voice in their smug habit. It can be a voice and maybe their small group co-leader can be a voice.

00;10;21;00 - 00;10;39;39
Nick Clason
And maybe some are on the serving team that's overseeing the greeters, which they're they're a member of serving on the youth ministry team or whatever the case might be. But fill it in. So there's five people. Five people seems to be the kind of key marker and not wasn't I get it? You might be sitting there thinking, I don't have five people I know it can be difficult.

00;10;39;39 - 00;11;01;32
Nick Clason
And that's why we're talking on the next video about how to recruit the best youth ministry volunteers, where to get them, where to find them, how to do it that is linked right here on the video. So don't forget, in this podcast we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, accessible in this particular video through the ministry of our small group leaders.

00;11;01;32 - 00;11;05;42
Nick Clason
So don't forget and as always, stay hybrid.

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00:00-03:41 We would all be sunk without our Youth Ministry Volunteers
03:41-06:42 Caring for youth beyond your capacity
06:42-09:13 How to find friends as a youth pastor
09:13-11:05 Students need more than you

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00;00;00;05 - 00;00;19;09
Nick Clason
So early on in in Youth Minister, you've probably been there. I was running a high school and a middle school ministry separate, but I was the only guy. And so the way I actually did it, which I don't necessarily recommend this as a strategy anymore, and I can tell you why in future videos. But I had youth ministry, I had middle school ministry in high school ministry, staggered.

00;00;19;09 - 00;00;41;44
Nick Clason
So one started at six or six. One started at seven or seven. Thought I was really, really cute for coming up with that idea. But no other people have come up with that idea before. Anyway, in my middle school ministry. I had a middle school ministry of girls, like only girls had about eight or six middle school girls on a regular basis and we had no boys.

00;00;41;44 - 00;01;04;00
Nick Clason
In fact, it was a pretty big issue, big enough that there were families leaving the church over it. That being said, I had literally only been there for about four months. And so one family left the church days after I accepted the job and my senior pastor was like, Bro, that's the whole reason why we're hiring this guy to like, help get more people here, get more, you know, boys here for your your son.

00;01;04;01 - 00;01;25;57
Nick Clason
And so anyway, I had missed school ministry and I was playing Leader Roulette. And I'll tell you what, leader Roula, it is I only had middle I only had girl leaders enlisted to serve in my middle school ministry. No boy leaders because I had no boy students. And so in my brain I was like, I'll get to that problem when it happens.

00;01;25;57 - 00;01;48;58
Nick Clason
And so there I was in the lobby welcoming middle school students. And I should also say that I had like 90 minutes of programing. So say, you know, 30 minutes or so of games, 30 minutes of teaching, and then 30 minutes of smart, that last 30 minutes was the overlapping part. So I sent middle schoolers off to their small group for the 30 minutes and the high schoolers sort of right at that time.

00;01;48;58 - 00;02;13;16
Nick Clason
So I was I was unavailable to ever step in as some sort of small group. So anyway, middle school ministry is starting somewhere around 606 or so. I can't say for certain the exact moment. And in walks a boy in my face. I'm like, dang, we got trouble. Now the good news was I did have some high school boys.

00;02;13;21 - 00;02;35;31
Nick Clason
And so then thus I did have high school boy volunteers. And so one of my high school boy volunteers, his name was Aaron Coons. Shout out to Aaron Koontz, Beavercreek, Ohio, AC for short. I call them up was like, dude. And no, you don't need to be here till seven, but can you pop in a few minutes early and can you help run and cover this middle school boy?

00;02;35;31 - 00;03;03;29
Nick Clason
Small group that I was now going to figure out how to staff it. Right now I had a boy. Now I needed boy, small group leaders. And so in this video today, what we are going to talk about is the why of volunteers in youth ministry. And in fact, I actually was going to make this one video. I was going to talk about the why of youth ministry volunteers, the recruiting of youth ministry volunteers and the training of youth minister volunteers.

00;03;03;29 - 00;03;22;55
Nick Clason
And as I sort of scripting it out, I realized this is a long video. So as a part of the 2024 Masterclass, I know I said in the last year, this is going to be the last one, but it's not. We are going to extend this one and break it apart into three different videos. So very a video series inside another video series.

00;03;23;00 - 00;03;42;02
Nick Clason
That's why you should subscribe. Because in this video we're talking about the why of youth ministry volunteers and in future videos, we're going to be talking about how to recruit. And then we're also going to be talking about training. All of this is a part of the free on demand training for youth ministry. Master Class. Welcome to the Hybrid Ministry show.

00;03;42;07 - 00;04;00;21
Nick Clason
So, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid ministry show. I am Nic Clason Just like I was saying, I've been in youth ministry. The story I shared in the intro was about, I think 13, 12, 13 years ago. Now, at this point, no boys, no boy, small group leaders. And so from that point, I have learned quite a few things about youth ministry.

00;04;00;21 - 00;04;26;15
Nick Clason
I've learned quite a few things about youth ministry volunteers. And one of the key things for youth ministry in youth ministry volunteers is the need for volunteers to help scale up in pastoral care. In fact, we have a video that's linked right here at the top of this screen where we talked about ways to use hybrid ministry to enhance the pastoral care in the shepherding in your youth ministry and in your student ministry.

00;04;26;15 - 00;04;46;30
Nick Clason
And so I'm not going to get too deep into that and tools and tips and tricks on how to equip your volunteers to reach out to your students and to care for your students. But you should check that out. There's some that you're interested in. However, one of the key things not to sound too corporate, not to sound to business, is that you need youth ministry leaders to help scale up the care.

00;04;46;30 - 00;05;11;34
Nick Clason
I mean, the reality of the fact is that you, as an individual, a singular one person, youth ministry, one man band, you only have so much capacity and maybe you're a super relational person. And so your capacity may be higher than someone who's not quite as relational as you. But at the end of the day, you realize that like once you scale past 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, I don't know, definitely 80.

00;05;11;34 - 00;05;32;22
Nick Clason
You're not going to be able to know every single student's name, every single student story, every single student's things going on. Their families are not going to be able to attend every single student's games and every single student's extracurricular types of things. And so that is why youth ministry is so important, is because your your volunteers help spread out that care.

00;05;32;22 - 00;05;55;21
Nick Clason
I mean, that's really that's the crux, the thesis is the basis for the entire book written by Orange Lead Small, one of my all time favorite resources. If you haven't checked it out, link down below in the show notes. But it is a youth ministry volunteer's job description and I actually used it in a lot of cases to help onboard some of my leaders and say, Read this and if this lights a fire within you, then let's keep talking.

00;05;55;21 - 00;06;18;03
Nick Clason
And that'll be kind of the preliminary starting foundation for a lot of my discussions. So it helps expand our reach. Speaking of expanding regional, I think all of us realize and see the need for social media. Well, what I've done for use, I've actually led a completely free digital strategy. I call it my hybrid ministry done for you one month posting strategy.

00;06;18;03 - 00;06;42;05
Nick Clason
It's linked right here down below. Very first link in the top of this video, I want you to check out my completely free e-book and not only can you become the face of your youth ministry, social media, not only can you get students as a main primary face of your youth, missed your social media, but you can now also, as a part of this video, enlist your volunteers to be a part of your youth ministry and especially what they're doing on social media.

00;06;42;14 - 00;07;09;23
Nick Clason
But reason number two, beyond scaling up pastoral care so that you can kind of spread out the need and the desire and knowing of students, there's just a camaraderie that comes with people locking arms and going together. I remember my students, we would take them to a thing called Dare to Share. You've maybe heard of it before, and at one point in the Dear Teacher conference, what they're doing it actually said, now there's a dude, Ayrshire Live, and so you kind of host it as like a livestream event.

00;07;09;23 - 00;07;23;52
Nick Clason
But back in the day they would go city to city and so we would kind of chase whatever city they're in. Sometimes they're in Dayton, Ohio, sometimes they're in Columbus, Ohio. I think maybe one time there in Cincinnati, Ohio. But nonetheless, we would kind of go to the conference. They'd have the worship and the speakers and all the things.

00;07;23;52 - 00;07;42;04
Nick Clason
But at one point they'd send youth ministries all throughout the city of wherever the hosting of the event was happening. And they would say, go door to door, collect cans, pass out lightbulbs, whatever the case may be, but share the gospel with people and my students. I remember they'd always be so nervous and freaked out. I mean, come on, wouldn't you?

00;07;42;09 - 00;08;09;23
Nick Clason
And but but one of the things that was so helpful but it was would help kind of break down the barrier and the entry level of starting a gospel conversation. But I remember the atmosphere and the attitude once we arrived back in the conference room, everyone in that place, they were hype. They were so pumped up because they had gone out and they actually I remember one time in one of the things they equated it to, like being on a military mission.

00;08;09;27 - 00;08;30;02
Nick Clason
You have this unbreakable bond because you've been on a mission together. And I think in a lot of ways that's what a youth ministry volunteer team can be. You as you pastor, you have a mission to help reach students and share the gospel and help point them to Jesus. But then you also have leaders who are who are adopting that same mindset and strategy, and maybe they're not there yet.

00;08;30;06 - 00;08;51;03
Nick Clason
You're helping kind of bring them along or level them up into that. And once you can have that unbreakable bond, you realize that even after a bad night of youth ministry, you guys are still there together, that you're still around some other people who are a like minded on the same page and beyond just that, beyond just like the camaraderie, you have the opportunity to make real friends with these people.

00;08;51;18 - 00;09;13;00
Nick Clason
I remember I worked at a church in Cincinnati, Ohio, and one of my volunteers became one of my best friends, and we met every single Tuesday morning. We met to recite Bible verses together to kind of keep each other accountable. And still to this day, even now, at that point, something like five, six, seven years ago, we'll call each other every once in a while and we'll just kind of keep up with each other's lives.

00;09;13;13 - 00;09;31;42
Nick Clason
The third reason why you need volunteers in your youth ministry is simply because of the fact that students need more than you to speak into their life and into their faith story. In fact, it takes five people in the book Growing Young by Care, Power, Power. She talked about the importance and that's going to be Campbell on the show notes or wherever your podcast catch.

00;09;31;42 - 00;09;59;34
Nick Clason
You can you can check it out in the link in the description or a hybridministry.xyz/083 beyond just three of transcripts. But Kara Powell said that we need five people. Students need five people in their lives. If they have five people speaking into their lives of their faith beyond just mom and dad. But but smart leaders and youth pastors and maybe even like adults that they serve in the nursery with the they rub shoulders with and they see on a regular ongoing basis.

00;09;59;34 - 00;10;21;00
Nick Clason
You need leaders in your life because you are not going to be the only primary person speaking into students lives. And if you are, that's going to leave them with a less lustful, less less robust faith. They need other voices speaking into it so you can be a voice in their smug habit. It can be a voice and maybe their small group co-leader can be a voice.

00;10;21;00 - 00;10;39;39
Nick Clason
And maybe some are on the serving team that's overseeing the greeters, which they're they're a member of serving on the youth ministry team or whatever the case might be. But fill it in. So there's five people. Five people seems to be the kind of key marker and not wasn't I get it? You might be sitting there thinking, I don't have five people I know it can be difficult.

00;10;39;39 - 00;11;01;32
Nick Clason
And that's why we're talking on the next video about how to recruit the best youth ministry volunteers, where to get them, where to find them, how to do it that is linked right here on the video. So don't forget, in this podcast we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, accessible in this particular video through the ministry of our small group leaders.

00;11;01;32 - 00;11;05;42
Nick Clason
So don't forget and as always, stay hybrid.

]]> Episode 082: ๐Ÿ’ก 5 No Prep Youth Group Game Ideas https://www.hybridministry.xyz/082 c50e5fcd-c3d7-4ef8-af77-18fb1dbaef44 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 07:00:00 -0600 Nick Clason 082 ๐Ÿ’ก 5 No Prep Youth Group Game Ideas full Nick Clason ๐ŸŽฎ Games & Youth Ministry Weโ€™ve been doing them since the invention of Youth Ministry. ๐Ÿ“จ But what do you do when youโ€™re in a hurry or a pinch? ๐Ÿ’ช Donโ€™t worry, we got you! //9 FREE GAMES https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/9-best-dym-products 9:29 no โšก 9 FREE DYM GAMES โšก https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-amazing-dym-142425755?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg ** 2024 Social Media Strategyhttps://www.patreon.com/posts/complete-guide-142500019?utmmedium=clipboardcopy&utmsource=copyLink&utmcampaign=postsharecreator&utmcontent=join_link **====================================== DESCRIPTION ๐ŸŽฎ Games & Youth Ministry Weโ€™ve been doing them since the invention of Youth Ministry. ๐Ÿ“จ But what do you do when youโ€™re in a hurry or a pinch? ๐Ÿ’ช Donโ€™t worry, we got you! 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They go together like Bert and Ernie, Batman and Robin, the Lone Ranger and Tonto. Do you even get that reference? Because I barely dude from an old worship song. But what happens when you are running low on time and you don't have time to pull a game together and you have barely any prep ready? 00;00;21;20 - 00;00;48;31 Nick Clason Well, here are my five best go to ideas in a low prep, no prep situation. Let's check it out. Idea number one is one of my all time favorite games. I like to call it Bring me In. It's simply, Hey, you're standing on stage and you say, bring me a penny, Bring me a shoelace, bring me your leader's left sock, bring me a gum wrapper, bring me a couch cushion, bring me a hat, bring me a cell phone charger. 00;00;48;43 - 00;01;13;14 Nick Clason Bring me a Stanley, bring me a sweatshirt, Bring me your cell phone case. But your cell phone can't be in if you if you head over to a hybridministry.xyz/082, which is this episode, you are out. I actually have nine of my favorite doing games that I've ever submitted and put on Doom's website on there completely for free. 00;01;13;18 - 00;01;26;37 Nick Clason Bring me is one of them. But you don't even need a screen for this. You can just screenshot all the ones I just said, put them down on a list and then just get up there and say when you don't know what to do, when you don't have time, when you don't have prep, bring me is a great game. 00;01;26;37 - 00;01;49;41 Nick Clason It incites a lot of chaos and panic. Students are running up and back and forth to the stage to try and win, be the first one up there, especially if you make it something difficult. Like I like to do a shoelace, but it can't be in the shoe anymore. So I have to like on threat it, stuff like that that makes it take a little bit more time, but then still creates a lot of moments of just excitement and running and all those absurd things. 00;01;49;41 - 00;02;14;41 Nick Clason Super fun. Idea number two is get a dude gym membership. Now if you have not checked out, download Youth Ministries. DuHaime For sure. I mean, they have absolutely changed the game when it comes to youth ministry and youth ministry games. In fact, at the top of this video, I have a detailed an outline of the entire history of why we even do games in youth ministry. 00;02;14;41 - 00;02;37;12 Nick Clason So check that out for something you're interested in. But for the rest of us you need to check out dkim. And there member pricing is so cheap they just upped it. And so they have one now called platinum, but they have a starter for just 1199 a month. Gold for 24, 74 month gold plus for 30 a month and then platinum for 74, 92 a month and platinum we just upgraded to platinum. 00;02;37;12 - 00;02;58;14 Nick Clason It has everything. It's like 800 a month. You get your curriculum, you get access to sidekick and phone voting. You get like store credit per month, you get all the member downloads. So I remember my brother, he just upgraded to the download Youth Ministry membership and I remember telling him I was like every single month you get new stuff. 00;02;58;14 - 00;03;24;44 Nick Clason And then I was like, And then the credit reloads every single month. And he literally said to me on the phone, Dude, this is a game changer. And so if you have not checked out sidekick, which has live polling, one of my favorite hybrid like advancements in youth ministry that we have today, they have the spinning wheel they have name picker but the phone voting, the live voting, they used to be a service you had to pay for poor everywhere. 00;03;24;44 - 00;03;44;57 Nick Clason Now it just rolled into the do I am memberships. If you're not a DUI I member, it may sound pricey to you with a little bit of sticker shock, but once you get any start using some of their products, you realize just how cheap it really is. And when you're in a pinch, DuHaime is a must. It is a go to you can jump online, you can grab a game that looks done. 00;03;45;02 - 00;04;10;29 Nick Clason Pro-level or pro ready, you drop it into your pro presenter, you drop into sidekick and boom, you are off to the races and no one's none the wiser that you just pulled that together in 5 minutes. Having a DUI membership is an absolute game changer and one of my actually favorite hacks for DUI games is taking one of those games and turning it into a social media moment. 00;04;10;29 - 00;04;35;50 Nick Clason And so I have a lot of games in my nine best DuHaime blog posts, which if you scroll all the way to the bottom, have a link on there though. Actually just give it to you completely for free so you don't have to pay for them, any of them. You can check it out. You can test those are all Nick Leeson games, but I would take some of those games and yes, I have vertical based videos, vertical based graphics for some, so you can just post the graphic on your social media feed and that that's one way to do it. 00;04;35;50 - 00;04;51;39 Nick Clason But a next level way that I like to use it is to hand the graphic to a student on a phone and then have them walk around, kind of like Mr. Beast style. All throughout my building on a Wednesday night or on a Sunday morning and ask other students or ask other leaders to try and play the game, to try and guess the thing. 00;04;51;39 - 00;05;09;21 Nick Clason So we do that a lot with one of my games I've created called Emoji Phraseology. And so they'll take the the social media graphic and they'll walk around and they'll be like, Hey, what is this emoji phrase? Was this camp emoji phrase? What is this New Year's emoji phrase? What is this Christmas emoji face? Was this back to school emoji phrase? 00;05;09;26 - 00;05;27;56 Nick Clason And then we get to watch other people kind of deal with it. One of the recent adaptations we did, I would usually do that for like one question at a time. So one student gets one question and we just film them and see how they respond. One of the most recent adaptations I did was I brought five students into my office and then I asked all of them all ten questions. 00;05;27;56 - 00;05;45;10 Nick Clason And then I went back through each of the ten questions and I spliced up the best moments from those. And so every question had five students, and we would cut to them thinking and and wrestling with it and giving answers, whether they're right or wrong. And then, you know, when they gave the right answer a little ding would pop up on screen. 00;05;45;10 - 00;06;03;22 Nick Clason So all kinds of different ways to adapt that. You know what? I actually have all that type of stuff detailed for you in my completely free e-book, which wants to help you crush social media. It's actually got a month's worth of social media resources, but it's not what you think. It's not just a bunch of graphics that you can scheduled to your feed. 00;06;03;27 - 00;06;31;14 Nick Clason It actually helps you take and adapt a real true next Gen. Gen Z Gen Alpha friendly Hybrid Ministry, Digital Ministry Integration of strategy to your ministry where you film your messages ahead of time. That's the bedrock of all that you do. And then you post short form, vertical based videos on your feed throughout the month and you and your your youth ministry, your volunteers and your students, they are the faces of the youth ministry. 00;06;31;19 - 00;06;53;23 Nick Clason You're not just a social media with a bunch of graphics. You are a social media with humans, entertainment based, fun based and also spiritual content. My e-book outlines details all of that 100% completely for you. Moving on to idea number three, when you are in a pinch for games, it is one of my favorite elimination style games. It's called clumps. 00;06;53;34 - 00;07;08;08 Nick Clason You don't need a screen for it. You can use a screen for it. Do you? AIM has a version of it. You can check it out. Link in the show notes where ever you are listening on a podcast catch or if you're watching here news you read down below, but you can essentially just say, Hey, in groups of four. 00;07;08;08 - 00;07;38;47 Nick Clason And then if you get groups of four and then anyone who's not in a group of four, whether they are the slowest or they just are less standing, they are eliminated and you start to whittle your group down to you have a last group or last team standing. It's super fun game. Check it out. It's a it's a go to in a pinch idea number four for going to in a pinch is steal the bacon If you've never played it before you get two lines of people on each side and you number everybody one through however many you have, make sure it's a even number on each side and then you put something in the 00;07;38;47 - 00;07;54;07 Nick Clason middle. And this is the no prep part. You can literally put a hat in the middle, you can put a sweatshirt in the middle, you can put a couch cushion from your youth room in the middle, and then you call out numbers. And so when you say number one, each person's number one runs in. They have to grab it and then have to bring it back to their side. 00;07;54;12 - 00;08;12;43 Nick Clason That's it. You can get creative. You can start calling multiple numbers. You can call number one and number seven. And then they both come running and trying to grab the pillow and then run back. It is a no prep low prep game. It is fun, it is active. It gets people moving, it gives people sweaty. So if you've never played steal the bacon before, go ahead and try. 00;08;12;43 - 00;08;33;58 Nick Clason If you do, please tag us. Let us know on social media so that we can repost you. That would be super fun to know. And then idea number five if you are running low on time and Prep is perhaps enlist a volunteer. Enlisting a volunteer is a great way to get the stress of games off of your plate and then you can put them in charge of choosing the game. 00;08;33;58 - 00;08;52;10 Nick Clason You can put them in charge of hosting the game and you can even help put them in charge of creating a student hosting team. I remember when I was in middle school there was a volunteer. Your name was Bruce Craig, and Bruce Craig, wasn't you? He wasn't your quintessential volunteer leader that you think of, right? He wasn't like young hip tows like he was a dad. 00;08;52;10 - 00;09;14;55 Nick Clason I think he had a high school kid, but he ran games for our middle school ministry every single week in the gym, on the microphone, and he was making it happen. And here's the thing. Adult volunteers are truly the lifeblood of everything that we do in student ministry, which is why I saved adults for the very end of this 2024 Youth Ministry on Demand playlist. 00;09;14;55 - 00;09;28;35 Nick Clason It's the seventh and final video link right here on the screen. Click it and we will take you to that and we will talk to you next time. Don't forget, we are making digital discipleship easy inaccessible. So as always, stay. 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๐ŸŽฎ Games & Youth Ministry

Weโ€™ve been doing them since the invention of Youth Ministry.

๐Ÿ“จ But what do you do when youโ€™re in a hurry or a pinch?

๐Ÿ’ช Donโ€™t worry, we got you!

This is part 5 of the 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg
======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/082

//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/QyUfb0kQlL4

#1 BRING ME
//BRING ME
https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/bring-me-10-game-bundle/games-bringmebundle.html

#2 DYM Membership
(DownloadYouthMinistry.com)
//DYM Membership
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//TRY SIDEKICK
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//MY BEST DYM GAMES
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//9 FREE GAMES
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//HYBRID MINISTRY E-BOOK
https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book

#3 CLUMPS
//CLUMPS
https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/clumps/games-1717.html

#4 STEAL THE BACON

#5 ENLIST A VOLUNTEER
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00:00-00:28 Why Youth Group Sermons Don't Do We Want them to do!v
00:28-01:50 #1 Bring Me
01:50-06:25 #2 DYM Membership
06:25-07:23 #3 Clumps
07:23-08:18 #4 Steal the Bacon
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00;00;00;05 - 00;00;21;15
Nick Clason
Games and youth ministry. They go together like Bert and Ernie, Batman and Robin, the Lone Ranger and Tonto. Do you even get that reference? Because I barely dude from an old worship song. But what happens when you are running low on time and you don't have time to pull a game together and you have barely any prep ready?

00;00;21;20 - 00;00;48;31
Nick Clason
Well, here are my five best go to ideas in a low prep, no prep situation. Let's check it out. Idea number one is one of my all time favorite games. I like to call it Bring me In. It's simply, Hey, you're standing on stage and you say, bring me a penny, Bring me a shoelace, bring me your leader's left sock, bring me a gum wrapper, bring me a couch cushion, bring me a hat, bring me a cell phone charger.

00;00;48;43 - 00;01;13;14
Nick Clason
Bring me a Stanley, bring me a sweatshirt, Bring me your cell phone case. But your cell phone can't be in if you if you head over to a hybridministry.xyz/082, which is this episode, you are out. I actually have nine of my favorite doing games that I've ever submitted and put on Doom's website on there completely for free.

00;01;13;18 - 00;01;26;37
Nick Clason
Bring me is one of them. But you don't even need a screen for this. You can just screenshot all the ones I just said, put them down on a list and then just get up there and say when you don't know what to do, when you don't have time, when you don't have prep, bring me is a great game.

00;01;26;37 - 00;01;49;41
Nick Clason
It incites a lot of chaos and panic. Students are running up and back and forth to the stage to try and win, be the first one up there, especially if you make it something difficult. Like I like to do a shoelace, but it can't be in the shoe anymore. So I have to like on threat it, stuff like that that makes it take a little bit more time, but then still creates a lot of moments of just excitement and running and all those absurd things.

00;01;49;41 - 00;02;14;41
Nick Clason
Super fun. Idea number two is get a dude gym membership. Now if you have not checked out, download Youth Ministries. DuHaime For sure. I mean, they have absolutely changed the game when it comes to youth ministry and youth ministry games. In fact, at the top of this video, I have a detailed an outline of the entire history of why we even do games in youth ministry.

00;02;14;41 - 00;02;37;12
Nick Clason
So check that out for something you're interested in. But for the rest of us you need to check out dkim. And there member pricing is so cheap they just upped it. And so they have one now called platinum, but they have a starter for just 1199 a month. Gold for 24, 74 month gold plus for 30 a month and then platinum for 74, 92 a month and platinum we just upgraded to platinum.

00;02;37;12 - 00;02;58;14
Nick Clason
It has everything. It's like 800 a month. You get your curriculum, you get access to sidekick and phone voting. You get like store credit per month, you get all the member downloads. So I remember my brother, he just upgraded to the download Youth Ministry membership and I remember telling him I was like every single month you get new stuff.

00;02;58;14 - 00;03;24;44
Nick Clason
And then I was like, And then the credit reloads every single month. And he literally said to me on the phone, Dude, this is a game changer. And so if you have not checked out sidekick, which has live polling, one of my favorite hybrid like advancements in youth ministry that we have today, they have the spinning wheel they have name picker but the phone voting, the live voting, they used to be a service you had to pay for poor everywhere.

00;03;24;44 - 00;03;44;57
Nick Clason
Now it just rolled into the do I am memberships. If you're not a DUI I member, it may sound pricey to you with a little bit of sticker shock, but once you get any start using some of their products, you realize just how cheap it really is. And when you're in a pinch, DuHaime is a must. It is a go to you can jump online, you can grab a game that looks done.

00;03;45;02 - 00;04;10;29
Nick Clason
Pro-level or pro ready, you drop it into your pro presenter, you drop into sidekick and boom, you are off to the races and no one's none the wiser that you just pulled that together in 5 minutes. Having a DUI membership is an absolute game changer and one of my actually favorite hacks for DUI games is taking one of those games and turning it into a social media moment.

00;04;10;29 - 00;04;35;50
Nick Clason
And so I have a lot of games in my nine best DuHaime blog posts, which if you scroll all the way to the bottom, have a link on there though. Actually just give it to you completely for free so you don't have to pay for them, any of them. You can check it out. You can test those are all Nick Leeson games, but I would take some of those games and yes, I have vertical based videos, vertical based graphics for some, so you can just post the graphic on your social media feed and that that's one way to do it.

00;04;35;50 - 00;04;51;39
Nick Clason
But a next level way that I like to use it is to hand the graphic to a student on a phone and then have them walk around, kind of like Mr. Beast style. All throughout my building on a Wednesday night or on a Sunday morning and ask other students or ask other leaders to try and play the game, to try and guess the thing.

00;04;51;39 - 00;05;09;21
Nick Clason
So we do that a lot with one of my games I've created called Emoji Phraseology. And so they'll take the the social media graphic and they'll walk around and they'll be like, Hey, what is this emoji phrase? Was this camp emoji phrase? What is this New Year's emoji phrase? What is this Christmas emoji face? Was this back to school emoji phrase?

00;05;09;26 - 00;05;27;56
Nick Clason
And then we get to watch other people kind of deal with it. One of the recent adaptations we did, I would usually do that for like one question at a time. So one student gets one question and we just film them and see how they respond. One of the most recent adaptations I did was I brought five students into my office and then I asked all of them all ten questions.

00;05;27;56 - 00;05;45;10
Nick Clason
And then I went back through each of the ten questions and I spliced up the best moments from those. And so every question had five students, and we would cut to them thinking and and wrestling with it and giving answers, whether they're right or wrong. And then, you know, when they gave the right answer a little ding would pop up on screen.

00;05;45;10 - 00;06;03;22
Nick Clason
So all kinds of different ways to adapt that. You know what? I actually have all that type of stuff detailed for you in my completely free e-book, which wants to help you crush social media. It's actually got a month's worth of social media resources, but it's not what you think. It's not just a bunch of graphics that you can scheduled to your feed.

00;06;03;27 - 00;06;31;14
Nick Clason
It actually helps you take and adapt a real true next Gen. Gen Z Gen Alpha friendly Hybrid Ministry, Digital Ministry Integration of strategy to your ministry where you film your messages ahead of time. That's the bedrock of all that you do. And then you post short form, vertical based videos on your feed throughout the month and you and your your youth ministry, your volunteers and your students, they are the faces of the youth ministry.

00;06;31;19 - 00;06;53;23
Nick Clason
You're not just a social media with a bunch of graphics. You are a social media with humans, entertainment based, fun based and also spiritual content. My e-book outlines details all of that 100% completely for you. Moving on to idea number three, when you are in a pinch for games, it is one of my favorite elimination style games. It's called clumps.

00;06;53;34 - 00;07;08;08
Nick Clason
You don't need a screen for it. You can use a screen for it. Do you? AIM has a version of it. You can check it out. Link in the show notes where ever you are listening on a podcast catch or if you're watching here news you read down below, but you can essentially just say, Hey, in groups of four.

00;07;08;08 - 00;07;38;47
Nick Clason
And then if you get groups of four and then anyone who's not in a group of four, whether they are the slowest or they just are less standing, they are eliminated and you start to whittle your group down to you have a last group or last team standing. It's super fun game. Check it out. It's a it's a go to in a pinch idea number four for going to in a pinch is steal the bacon If you've never played it before you get two lines of people on each side and you number everybody one through however many you have, make sure it's a even number on each side and then you put something in the

00;07;38;47 - 00;07;54;07
Nick Clason
middle. And this is the no prep part. You can literally put a hat in the middle, you can put a sweatshirt in the middle, you can put a couch cushion from your youth room in the middle, and then you call out numbers. And so when you say number one, each person's number one runs in. They have to grab it and then have to bring it back to their side.

00;07;54;12 - 00;08;12;43
Nick Clason
That's it. You can get creative. You can start calling multiple numbers. You can call number one and number seven. And then they both come running and trying to grab the pillow and then run back. It is a no prep low prep game. It is fun, it is active. It gets people moving, it gives people sweaty. So if you've never played steal the bacon before, go ahead and try.

00;08;12;43 - 00;08;33;58
Nick Clason
If you do, please tag us. Let us know on social media so that we can repost you. That would be super fun to know. And then idea number five if you are running low on time and Prep is perhaps enlist a volunteer. Enlisting a volunteer is a great way to get the stress of games off of your plate and then you can put them in charge of choosing the game.

00;08;33;58 - 00;08;52;10
Nick Clason
You can put them in charge of hosting the game and you can even help put them in charge of creating a student hosting team. I remember when I was in middle school there was a volunteer. Your name was Bruce Craig, and Bruce Craig, wasn't you? He wasn't your quintessential volunteer leader that you think of, right? He wasn't like young hip tows like he was a dad.

00;08;52;10 - 00;09;14;55
Nick Clason
I think he had a high school kid, but he ran games for our middle school ministry every single week in the gym, on the microphone, and he was making it happen. And here's the thing. Adult volunteers are truly the lifeblood of everything that we do in student ministry, which is why I saved adults for the very end of this 2024 Youth Ministry on Demand playlist.

00;09;14;55 - 00;09;28;35
Nick Clason
It's the seventh and final video link right here on the screen. Click it and we will take you to that and we will talk to you next time. Don't forget, we are making digital discipleship easy inaccessible. So as always, stay.

]]> โšก 9 FREE DYM GAMES โšก

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๐ŸŽฎ Games & Youth Ministry

Weโ€™ve been doing them since the invention of Youth Ministry.

๐Ÿ“จ But what do you do when youโ€™re in a hurry or a pinch?

๐Ÿ’ช Donโ€™t worry, we got you!

This is part 5 of the 2024 Youth Ministry [on-demand] Masterclass
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg
======================================
๐Ÿ““SHOWNOTES
//SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS
http://www.hybridministry.xyz/082

//YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/QyUfb0kQlL4

#1 BRING ME
//BRING ME
https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/bring-me-10-game-bundle/games-bringmebundle.html

#2 DYM Membership
(DownloadYouthMinistry.com)
//DYM Membership
https://www.dymmembership.com/pricing

//TRY SIDEKICK
https://app.sidekick.tv/auth/create?code=NickClason

//MY BEST DYM GAMES
https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym

//9 FREE GAMES
https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/9-best-dym-products

//HYBRID MINISTRY E-BOOK
https://hybrid-ministry-40060036.hubspotpagebuilder.com/free-hybrid-ministry-e-book

#3 CLUMPS
//CLUMPS
https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/clumps/games-1717.html

#4 STEAL THE BACON

#5 ENLIST A VOLUNTEER
//VOLUNTEERS ARE THE NEXT VIDEO IN THE PLAYLIST
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngXlSr64YaLIJceFHg7w8vxlx5ARqXeg

๐Ÿ‘‰ STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK
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00:00-00:28 Why Youth Group Sermons Don't Do We Want them to do!v
00:28-01:50 #1 Bring Me
01:50-06:25 #2 DYM Membership
06:25-07:23 #3 Clumps
07:23-08:18 #4 Steal the Bacon
08:18-09:29 #5 Enlist a Volunteer

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00;00;00;05 - 00;00;21;15
Nick Clason
Games and youth ministry. They go together like Bert and Ernie, Batman and Robin, the Lone Ranger and Tonto. Do you even get that reference? Because I barely dude from an old worship song. But what happens when you are running low on time and you don't have time to pull a game together and you have barely any prep ready?

00;00;21;20 - 00;00;48;31
Nick Clason
Well, here are my five best go to ideas in a low prep, no prep situation. Let's check it out. Idea number one is one of my all time favorite games. I like to call it Bring me In. It's simply, Hey, you're standing on stage and you say, bring me a penny, Bring me a shoelace, bring me your leader's left sock, bring me a gum wrapper, bring me a couch cushion, bring me a hat, bring me a cell phone charger.

00;00;48;43 - 00;01;13;14
Nick Clason
Bring me a Stanley, bring me a sweatshirt, Bring me your cell phone case. But your cell phone can't be in if you if you head over to a hybridministry.xyz/082, which is this episode, you are out. I actually have nine of my favorite doing games that I've ever submitted and put on Doom's website on there completely for free.

00;01;13;18 - 00;01;26;37
Nick Clason
Bring me is one of them. But you don't even need a screen for this. You can just screenshot all the ones I just said, put them down on a list and then just get up there and say when you don't know what to do, when you don't have time, when you don't have prep, bring me is a great game.

00;01;26;37 - 00;01;49;41
Nick Clason
It incites a lot of chaos and panic. Students are running up and back and forth to the stage to try and win, be the first one up there, especially if you make it something difficult. Like I like to do a shoelace, but it can't be in the shoe anymore. So I have to like on threat it, stuff like that that makes it take a little bit more time, but then still creates a lot of moments of just excitement and running and all those absurd things.

00;01;49;41 - 00;02;14;41
Nick Clason
Super fun. Idea number two is get a dude gym membership. Now if you have not checked out, download Youth Ministries. DuHaime For sure. I mean, they have absolutely changed the game when it comes to youth ministry and youth ministry games. In fact, at the top of this video, I have a detailed an outline of the entire history of why we even do games in youth ministry.

00;02;14;41 - 00;02;37;12
Nick Clason
So check that out for something you're interested in. But for the rest of us you need to check out dkim. And there member pricing is so cheap they just upped it. And so they have one now called platinum, but they have a starter for just 1199 a month. Gold for 24, 74 month gold plus for 30 a month and then platinum for 74, 92 a month and platinum we just upgraded to platinum.

00;02;37;12 - 00;02;58;14
Nick Clason
It has everything. It's like 800 a month. You get your curriculum, you get access to sidekick and phone voting. You get like store credit per month, you get all the member downloads. So I remember my brother, he just upgraded to the download Youth Ministry membership and I remember telling him I was like every single month you get new stuff.

00;02;58;14 - 00;03;24;44
Nick Clason
And then I was like, And then the credit reloads every single month. And he literally said to me on the phone, Dude, this is a game changer. And so if you have not checked out sidekick, which has live polling, one of my favorite hybrid like advancements in youth ministry that we have today, they have the spinning wheel they have name picker but the phone voting, the live voting, they used to be a service you had to pay for poor everywhere.

00;03;24;44 - 00;03;44;57
Nick Clason
Now it just rolled into the do I am memberships. If you're not a DUI I member, it may sound pricey to you with a little bit of sticker shock, but once you get any start using some of their products, you realize just how cheap it really is. And when you're in a pinch, DuHaime is a must. It is a go to you can jump online, you can grab a game that looks done.

00;03;45;02 - 00;04;10;29
Nick Clason
Pro-level or pro ready, you drop it into your pro presenter, you drop into sidekick and boom, you are off to the races and no one's none the wiser that you just pulled that together in 5 minutes. Having a DUI membership is an absolute game changer and one of my actually favorite hacks for DUI games is taking one of those games and turning it into a social media moment.

00;04;10;29 - 00;04;35;50
Nick Clason
And so I have a lot of games in my nine best DuHaime blog posts, which if you scroll all the way to the bottom, have a link on there though. Actually just give it to you completely for free so you don't have to pay for them, any of them. You can check it out. You can test those are all Nick Leeson games, but I would take some of those games and yes, I have vertical based videos, vertical based graphics for some, so you can just post the graphic on your social media feed and that that's one way to do it.

00;04;35;50 - 00;04;51;39
Nick Clason
But a next level way that I like to use it is to hand the graphic to a student on a phone and then have them walk around, kind of like Mr. Beast style. All throughout my building on a Wednesday night or on a Sunday morning and ask other students or ask other leaders to try and play the game, to try and guess the thing.

00;04;51;39 - 00;05;09;21
Nick Clason
So we do that a lot with one of my games I've created called Emoji Phraseology. And so they'll take the the social media graphic and they'll walk around and they'll be like, Hey, what is this emoji phrase? Was this camp emoji phrase? What is this New Year's emoji phrase? What is this Christmas emoji face? Was this back to school emoji phrase?

00;05;09;26 - 00;05;27;56
Nick Clason
And then we get to watch other people kind of deal with it. One of the recent adaptations we did, I would usually do that for like one question at a time. So one student gets one question and we just film them and see how they respond. One of the most recent adaptations I did was I brought five students into my office and then I asked all of them all ten questions.

00;05;27;56 - 00;05;45;10
Nick Clason
And then I went back through each of the ten questions and I spliced up the best moments from those. And so every question had five students, and we would cut to them thinking and and wrestling with it and giving answers, whether they're right or wrong. And then, you know, when they gave the right answer a little ding would pop up on screen.

00;05;45;10 - 00;06;03;22
Nick Clason
So all kinds of different ways to adapt that. You know what? I actually have all that type of stuff detailed for you in my completely free e-book, which wants to help you crush social media. It's actually got a month's worth of social media resources, but it's not what you think. It's not just a bunch of graphics that you can scheduled to your feed.

00;06;03;27 - 00;06;31;14
Nick Clason
It actually helps you take and adapt a real true next Gen. Gen Z Gen Alpha friendly Hybrid Ministry, Digital Ministry Integration of strategy to your ministry where you film your messages ahead of time. That's the bedrock of all that you do. And then you post short form, vertical based videos on your feed throughout the month and you and your your youth ministry, your volunteers and your students, they are the faces of the youth ministry.

00;06;31;19 - 00;06;53;23
Nick Clason
You're not just a social media with a bunch of graphics. You are a social media with humans, entertainment based, fun based and also spiritual content. My e-book outlines details all of that 100% completely for you. Moving on to idea number three, when you are in a pinch for games, it is one of my favorite elimination style games. It's called clumps.

00;06;53;34 - 00;07;08;08
Nick Clason
You don't need a screen for it. You can use a screen for it. Do you? AIM has a version of it. You can check it out. Link in the show notes where ever you are listening on a podcast catch or if you're watching here news you read down below, but you can essentially just say, Hey, in groups of four.

00;07;08;08 - 00;07;38;47
Nick Clason
And then if you get groups of four and then anyone who's not in a group of four, whether they are the slowest or they just are less standing, they are eliminated and you start to whittle your group down to you have a last group or last team standing. It's super fun game. Check it out. It's a it's a go to in a pinch idea number four for going to in a pinch is steal the bacon If you've never played it before you get two lines of people on each side and you number everybody one through however many you have, make sure it's a even number on each side and then you put something in the

00;07;38;47 - 00;07;54;07
Nick Clason
middle. And this is the no prep part. You can literally put a hat in the middle, you can put a sweatshirt in the middle, you can put a couch cushion from your youth room in the middle, and then you call out numbers. And so when you say number one, each person's number one runs in. They have to grab it and then have to bring it back to their side.

00;07;54;12 - 00;08;12;43
Nick Clason
That's it. You can get creative. You can start calling multiple numbers. You can call number one and number seven. And then they both come running and trying to grab the pillow and then run back. It is a no prep low prep game. It is fun, it is active. It gets people moving, it gives people sweaty. So if you've never played steal the bacon before, go ahead and try.

00;08;12;43 - 00;08;33;58
Nick Clason
If you do, please tag us. Let us know on social media so that we can repost you. That would be super fun to know. And then idea number five if you are running low on time and Prep is perhaps enlist a volunteer. Enlisting a volunteer is a great way to get the stress of games off of your plate and then you can put them in charge of choosing the game.

00;08;33;58 - 00;08;52;10
Nick Clason
You can put them in charge of hosting the game and you can even help put them in charge of creating a student hosting team. I remember when I was in middle school there was a volunteer. Your name was Bruce Craig, and Bruce Craig, wasn't you? He wasn't your quintessential volunteer leader that you think of, right? He wasn't like young hip tows like he was a dad.

00;08;52;10 - 00;09;14;55
Nick Clason
I think he had a high school kid, but he ran games for our middle school ministry every single week in the gym, on the microphone, and he was making it happen. And here's the thing. Adult volunteers are truly the lifeblood of everything that we do in student ministry, which is why I saved adults for the very end of this 2024 Youth Ministry on Demand playlist.

00;09;14;55 - 00;09;28;35
Nick Clason
It's the seventh and final video link right here on the screen. Click it and we will take you to that and we will talk to you next time. Don't forget, we are making digital discipleship easy inaccessible. So as always, stay.

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